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Today, I am Pro-Erika; A Day on Team Erika - Ep 151

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Today, I am Pro-Erika; A Day on Team Erika - Ep 151

The investigation into Charlie Kirk’s death reveals a deeply suspicious lack of transparency regarding the body’s handling. Despite claims of a formal autopsy and funeral, no actual body has been shown, and no photographs, medical records, or official disposition records have been made publicly accessible. The case is further complicated by Utah’s legal framework, which requires strict documentation of body transport, storage, and autopsy procedures—including timing, temperature control, and chain-of-custody logs—all of which are missing or unverified. The timeline appears implausibly fast: the body reportedly arrived at the medical examiner’s office late on September 10th, yet the autopsy was allegedly completed within hours, with no evidence of cooling or proper preservation. This raises concerns that the body may have been disposed of prematurely, possibly to avoid scrutiny. A major point of contention is the absence of an official autopsy report, with only a summary of "gunshot wound" and "homicide" being presented. The report failed to include critical details such as the time of arrival, body temperature, presence of bullet fragments, or room occupants—key elements in a capital homicide case. The case also highlights broader issues of transparency, as evidence such as the autopsy video was never fully disclosed to the public, fueling speculation and conspiracy theories. Advocates, including Erica Kirk, argue that all evidence must be openly available to prevent public distrust and ensure a fair trial. The narrative is further undermined by inconsistencies in witness accounts, such as Brian Harpole’s dramatic claims of heroic actions during transport and the autopsy, which contradict medical professional reports and appear to be self-promotional. Ultimately, the central mystery remains: where is Charlie Kirk’s body now? With no verifiable records, no public burial, and no accessible autopsy, the case appears to lack foundational evidence, suggesting either a cover-up or a systemic failure in accountability. This raises urgent questions about whether the investigation was properly conducted or manipulated to protect an outcome.

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Um, uh, Andrew Blake, um, Erica, you guys picked a terrible week to go on vacation. Uh, I don't have braids. I feel like if I had braids at this point, I would be in a much better position to program because apparently braids are where it's at. Battle button be darned, uh, battle braids, ladies and gentlemen, is where it is. Welcome in, welcome in, welcome in, uh, apparently this week's going to get rowdy. Uh, apparently this week's going to get unbelievably, uh, rowdy, uh, hold on. Let me check here, okay, make sure I did accidentally call 911 or anything. Um, get it off of, get off of, okay, guys, uh, we got a lot to cover. Now it's going to be a cap and gown day and going to be a cap and gown day. When you, when you some days you show up, you know, we have a good time and we have one today, don your cap, don your gown, uh, we're going to school, we're going to school. It's going to be a lot of education and happening here tonight. And I have to tell you when they're right, they're right. And sometimes Erica Kirk is right. And I'm going to take her side today on a, uh, a particular issue. I'm going to be on team Erica today. So don't say, you know, you got you, everything you do is against this woman. No, no, not tonight. Not July 27th, 2026. No, we're, we're team America. No, I'm sorry. Team Erica. Yeah. Team Erica. We are team Erica tonight. Uh, before we get started, I have to clarify something last night. I got a ton of messages. Holy mackerel. I got a ton of messages, uh, on last night's show. And I had a lot of people giving me tips on which car they think that Tyler Robinson jumped in. That's, and I responded to a few of them. I was like, did I say jumped in a car? They're like, yeah, go back and watch it. So I went back and watched it. And then all the things started to make it sense. Um, I was giving options. I was just giving every option I could think of. Like I went to the kitchen cabinet and I started pulling options out of the cabinet. Uh, uh, I, I'm not saying for sure he jumped in a car. I'm not saying for sure he ran the library. I'm not saying for sure he, uh, ordered up a cheeseburger on the roof. I'm not saying for sure that while he was standing at the top of the parking garage, he made a call or, or communicated with somebody, uh, uh, you know, I was just thinking of any option I could possibly think of that something might have happened in the clips that they took out. That's it. That's it. So I don't love he jumped in the car. I don't necessarily think he did, but if he did, then let's figure out what car it is. All I was trying to do is say, why are they cutting all the video footage in half? Why are they shutting everything down? They have five days to present a preliminary case. If you're going to give me a two minute long video of him standing at the top of the staircase, don't cut him minute of it out. Give me the whole two minutes. Let me see what the two minutes happens. That's it. Well, that's all ladies and gentlemen, just want to clarify that because I don't want people to say, uh, good, keep in mind the trials years, probably two years from now, year, year and a half, two years from now. Um, but there will be people who make a note, Baron Coleman said on July 26th that he jumped in the car. He did not jump in the car. Baron is wrong. He's a liar. He's an idiot. He, a con man. Hey, no, uh, I didn't say that. I was saying was he might have. We have no idea. So that's all I'm going to say about last night, uh, but I am going to go into a little bit of more of the autopsy tonight. I'm very keen on the disposition of Charlie Kirk's body because, um, as we, as we proceed to this case, there seems to be one glaring problem. Everything, uh, there's a lot of glaring problems. But one major problem is a murder requires a body. If I, if you're going to tell me someone died, I have to be able to look and see a dead person. And so far, we've not heard from anybody who saw a dead body. We just heard from people who heard from people who saw a doctor's report that might have indicated there was a dead body, but we've not seen an actual dead body. We've not seen the report of a dead body. We've not seen pictures of that body. And I don't want to look at the pictures. I'm not gruesome. I have no interest in looking at the picture. Honestly, that's, that's the true fact. I have no interest in looking at the pictures. Um, I mean, if they came out, I would have to look just to, to, to do the job here. But, uh, I have no interest in it. Absolutely no interest. But I would like to look at the report. I'd like to look at things like what time to start. Where would it take place? Who's in the room? What time did it end? Where did the body go after that? Um, and we'll talk tonight about why those records should be available. What happened to the biologic samples? Are they available still? The defense seemed to indicate they might not have them. Should they? Is it a legal requirement in Utah that they do have them? Uh, so we'll talk about all that and more because this case is very weird from front to back. There's no doubt about it. It's very weird from front to back. Um, and one of the giant weirdnesses, when I do my opening, that's close about a mistake. I'll find it. Um, oh, there it is. I hit it for myself, ladies and gentlemen. I've been known to do that. It's happened before. Uh, one of the weird things about this case is, uh, we had an autopsy that now we're trying to sort of get a handle on that might have been done in almost minutes, almost minutes. And I'll be honest, here's what it looks like to me. It looks like if there was not an autopsy done, they just kind of cooked up some sort of report, uh, if there was an autopsy done, then it might have been done haphazardly. It might not have followed all the rules and it might not have been as thorough as it otherwise should have been in a major murder case. So I want to go through that, but I do want to do an opening because this is not the first time that we've had a question in a case about where is the body? This has been a thing. I don't want to take you all the way. Oh, oh, people get mad when I don't do this. This is your opening statement. I want to take you all the way back to the summer of 1975. There was a young mother in Edinburgh, Scotland. And she experienced a loss that would define nearly five decades of her life. Her name was Lydia and Reed. She was only 26 years old. She gave birth by C section on June 26th of 1975 to a premature son. She named him Gary Robert Patton. And within days, young Gary was very fragile. He was a premature baby. And he was transferred to Royal Hospital for sick children. And they had to do surgery to remove a catheter. After the operation on July 2nd, he reportedly suffered a brain damage incident. He was placed on life support. Reed agreed to withdraw the intensive care. And then later that night, the police arrived to inform her that young Gary had died. He was just seven days old, seven days old, little tiny, tiny Gary. Almost immediately, she had doubts when the funeral staff from Scott mid cooperative showed her the body. Miss Reed looked at it and said, that's not my son's body. My son was tiny and dark here. This child is large and blonde. And of course, the staff does what sometimes medical staff does to people and they poo poo them, treat them like idiots, and dismiss her as having depression, postnatal depression. So she goes to the funeral. And at the funeral, a little baby coffin for a little baby premature baby said the coffin felt unnaturally light in her arms. Of course, how much does a little baby weigh so they kind of dismiss that? But she noticed a few other things that were weird rather than putting the casket in the back of the car. They just kind of put it into the front seat of the car and they put a coat over it. And then the guy driving was flashing his ashing a cigarette and the cigarette ashes were blowing down on the coat that was over the coffin. On the name plate of the casket, it spelled the word Gary with two Rs instead of one. He misspelled the kid's name on his own coffin. And they buried the coffin at a place called Soughton Cemetery. And this is where it gets heartbreaking because for more than 40 years, Ms. Reed visited that grave every week, every week. She laid down flowers, even though she was never fully convinced internally that her baby was in the grave. And her suspicions began to intensify in the late 1990s. There was an alder hay organ retention scandal that erupted in England. And investigations revealed that in a lot of British hospitals, including those in Scotland and her area, they had routinely retained organs and tissues from young children who had passed away. And they were using it for research and teaching. And they were doing it without the parental consent. There was a report that was issued, it was called the McLaren report. She later estimated that Scottish hospitals held around 6,000 such specimens that had been collected between 1970 and 2000. Well, Ms. Reed became a leading figure in the campaign group called Justice for the Innocence. Among other things, she demanded her son's medical records. And she learned that the organs had indeed been removed before he was buried. And this was unusual because they had assured her earlier that this was not the case, that they had not taken anything out of her son. Her entire son, organs and all, was in the casket. A lot of families eventually recovered retained material, but the hospital maintained that it had nothing that belonged to Gary. So Ms. Reed continued to press for answers. At one point, she even chained herself to a rail in protest. She went on a hunger strike. She fought for reforms that tightened the regulation on the handling of pediatric remains. And in 2017, 42 years after Gary passed away, and after several years of legal efforts, Ms. Reed secured a court order that allowed them to exume the remains. She hired a distinguished forensic anthropologist from the University of Dundee to supervise the work. They exume the remains and they recover a number of artifacts from the grave. This includes a disintegrated coffin. There was a wooden shawl. There was a small hat that was placed on, allegedly placed on Gary before he was put in the grave. A small cross and a nametag. And she remembered all of those objects being present when she last saw who she presumed was a child. So those objects confirmed it was the right grave. However, the coffin itself had nobody. There were no skeletal remains. The expert confirmed there were no traces of decomposition and no hair inside the hat. And according to the expert, there should have at least been hair if nothing else. So the conclusion was pretty unambiguous. And here is the exact quote from the expert. Quote. Ultimately, there is only one possible logical explanation. And that is that the body was not put in that coffin. In quote. Obviously, that devastated misread. Even if it validated her instinct, it was still devastating news. She was quoted saying, I wanted to be wrong. I wanted to be called a stupid old woman. Instead, she was forced to confront the cold reality that an empty coffin had been buried while her son's body was somewhere else. The discovery triggered further official scrutiny. The police got involved. The crown office got involved. There was a procurator fiscal service investigation, whatever that is. And she launched a legal action seeking the return of any samples that remained. In a post-mortem situation, a lot of times they'll take samples and they'll keep them somewhere. We'll talk about that tonight. And also, she wanted compensation from the funeral directors who very obviously knew that there was nobody in the casket. In 2022, she was frustrated by delays. She was at that point 73 years old. Keep in mind, she'd been 26 when Gary died. She was now 73 years old. She was disabled. She camped outside the crown office in Edinburgh. demanded a public inquiry and, of course, the release of whatever remained of her child. A multi-agency review was conducted and that they concluded Gary had been buried in 1975. And found no evidence of criminality or unlawful organ retention. Obviously, Ms. Reed disputed those findings because they dug up the grave and there was no Gary. So in 2023, March of 2023, just a few years ago, while she was lying terminally ill with bowel cancer in the hospital, authorities finally located and released the available remains. And all that remained of young Gary were a few tissue blocks and slides. When I say slides, I mean the medical slides that go under a microscope. That's all that was left from the original examination. Officials delivered them to her in a plastic supermarket bag, like a Kroger bag. The agency was later forced to apologize for being so reckless and careless with Ms. Reed's feelings. She obviously expressed horror and then the materials were properly prepared by an undertaker. And on a beautiful Saturday morning in late March 2023, Ms. Reed checked herself out of a hospital for a full 24 hours and finally conducted a respectful funeral for what remained of Gary. She did it at the Soughton Cemetery that she had gone to for nearly 48 years after his death. The hurt has been horrendous, she said. Now I can bury him before I die. I feel great relief. She died shortly thereafter. June 2023. She was just 74 years old. And even after the burial of the few tissue samples she had, questions about what happened to Gary's body very obviously remain. It's a reminder that some losses leave voids and no investigation can fill those voids. And that is your opening statement. It's a little dark, it's a little morbid, but it is awfully, wait, what's my name trending on X? What have I done now? Oh, sorry. I didn't mean to get just pulled it up while I was talking it and looked at what's going on here. It's morbid and it's dark, but we have real questions that remain about what became of Charlie Kirk. He died in a rather fantastic event. It was a rather wild moment. And everybody sort of looked around and assumed proper protocol would be followed. The question is, was it? Because if it was, why do we not know to this day what happened to his body? Was he buried? Was he cremated? Did he have a funeral? We won't, we can't know because the participants at the alleged funeral as Candace disclosed a long time ago, but again yesterday, I believe or she believes we're forced to sign an NDA to go to their own family's funeral. Like, can you imagine being the cousin and having to sign an NDA with penalties attached to it? Very bizarre. Very, very bizarre. So let's take a walk through this, shall we? Because there are some legal requirements in Utah. What happens to a body? And I'll just outline them broadly before we start pulling up statues and looking at them because this is again going to be a dense day. If you die in Utah, we talked about this yesterday. If you die in Utah and it's a suspected gunshot wound, in most instances, there will be an autopsy. But as we learned yesterday, too much to my surprise over the weekend, I discovered an autopsy is not required. An autopsy can be waived by the medical examiner if nobody else asks for one. So if the county attorney or the attorney general asks for an autopsy, the medical examiner has to perform one. But if neither one of them asks for an autopsy and the medical examiner shows up and says, we don't really need to do an autopsy here. They don't have to do one. No autopsy is required. So what happens if the medical examiner takes custody? Because we're told the medical examiner took custody the body. We saw a parade of people that included the medical examiner. And that parade of people supposedly went to the medical examiner's office in Taylor'sville. What's funny about that is there were news cameras all over the place and nobody seemed to remember him coming. But there is actually a statute of what happens when the death appears. This is a purple part right here where the death appears to have occurred under circumstances listed in 26b8-205. And I will submit to you that that is a gunshot wound. Subsection one of that is a gunshot wound. The person or person's finding or having custody the body or jurisdiction over the investigation of the death. So that's the medical examiner or the county attorney or the police. She'll take reasonable precautions to preserve the body and fluids so that minimum minimum deterioration takes place. That's subsection C, right? So the medical examiner has a responsibility here. Until the conclusion of the autopsy there has to be some sort of preservation of the entire body. But once the autopsy passes, is there any additional requirement? And if there is no additional requirement, does that help inform us maybe why an autopsy was rushed? I'll give you a follow-up here. Here are situations where autopsy are authorized and the reason why this two right here is a verb. The medical examiner shall perform an autopsy to aid in the discovery and prosecution of the crime. So you want to make sure you protect the state's interest. Also to protect an innocent person accused of a crime. In other words, if we have a criminal defendant before we have a completed autopsy, the medical examiner is no longer just trying to figure out who died and how. But they actually have a statutory duty to the accused. The medical examiner has a statutory duty to the accused, meaning Tyler Robinson in this case. When did we get Tyler Robinson? When did he show up? Well, he didn't show up allegedly until the night of September 11th. He didn't show up to the night of September 11th. Well, where was Charlie's body the night of September 11th when Tyler Robinson showed up? It was in Arizona. It was in Arizona. That's fast, ladies and gentlemen. When Charlie was not declared dead until the early afternoon, at some point, 1.32 to 33 o'clock sometime like that in the afternoon on September 10th, you wouldn't think the body would already be in another state 30 hours later. 33 hour man, 33 hours later, you wouldn't think the body would be in another state. And this becomes an important factor when you think about the speed with which this entire thing was done, because one of the things that can happen, one of the things that can happen with the with an autopsy with a body, is the criminal of the accused can request an extension. I'll show you this right here. This is a thing. This is a thing, release of the body for funeral preparations. Where a body is held for investigation or autopsy under this chapter, the body shall, if requested by the person given authority, so that would be the wife, be released for funeral preparations no longer than 24 hours after the arrival at the office of the medical examiner at a regional medical facility. Well, ladies and gentlemen, we know when that took place, we think that happened around 830 or 9 o'clock p.m. on September 10th. That's when it arrived at the medical facility. And at that point, the clock starts running. They have 24 hours to get the body ready and released. They have 24 hours to complete the autopsy after it arrives at the medical facility. We saw the body supposedly. We saw the body leave Tempanooga's hospital at 7.57 p.m. It's about a 30, 45 minute drive. Let's call it 45 minutes to get the body inside the medical facility. That's when the clock starts running. If the medical examiner still has custody of that body within that whole 24 hours and a criminal defendant comes along and says, you got the wrong guy. I don't believe that happened. They can file a request in the district court of Utah to hold the body, not release the body. In other words, they can go to a judge and say judge. This is very unusual circumstances. We think they've got it all wrong here. You need to hold the body and allow a more thorough investigation to take place, allow potentially defense people second autopsy, second opinion. That extension may only be ordered by a court. That's that section B right there. So you might get some sort of an idea of why everything was sped up so fast. Now you're starting to look and say, hey, oh, oh, oh, it didn't make sense to me. Why there was such a hurry to dispose of Charlie Kirk's body. Recall last night, we talked about all of the autopsy pictures were taken on September 10th. That means the autopsy we believe could have been done by midnight that night and released. They didn't get to the they didn't get there until like eight. Let's call it eight thirty. Let's say they drove really fast on the way there and they wheeled the body in. Yanken and banking. Is that what Brian Harpo called it? Let's say they were yanken and banking on the way there. And they just like catapult to the body of the building. You're talking eight thirty three earliest. It was gone three and a half hours later. Like gone from the building. The autopsy was done. Are you kidding me? That's super fast. That's really, really fast. That's like twenty and a half hours before the statutorily expected 24 hours passes. But if you don't know when somebody might be arrested for the crime. And you don't know if that person is going to request an extension. And you really don't want a second set of eyes looking in on what's going on. And you don't want a court getting involved and you don't want extensions being granted. And you don't want a court to say we need to hold this body for two weeks in the morgue. And keep him on ice because we're going to have to get a second team in here. They're going to have to look at it. If you if you don't want any of that to happen, there's only one way to prevent it. Get that body the heck out of Dodge. And what better way to do that than to have the vice president of the United States show up and say he's coming with me. What what state medical examiner is going to look the vice president in the eye and say no sir. We've still got time on our hands. We don't we don't have to release this body for another five hours. Enjoy the tarmac sir. You don't feel safe you can get back up in the air. But we don't have to release this body for four more hours. Probably not going to happen. But if let's say Dan flood and Brian Harpole show up and they're like, hey, we're taking the body. No, no, no, we're not you can't take the body. We've got time here. We're taking our time. We're letting the clock run. We got to see what's going on. So what does it take to get a body out of state in Utah because this seems extraordinarily fast. A lot of people have commented on that that this seems extraordinarily fast. Well, we have a rule on that. We have a rule on that. There's a Utah requirement. It's called a disposition permit. A disposition permit believe it or not. This is it. This is the office of administrative rules authorization for final disposition of deceased persons. This is the rule for the removal transportation and preservation of bodies. If you're going to remove the body. You have to obtain permission from the next to kin that's Erica. You have to determine whether the medical examiner has been notified that that was taken care of. This is to remove it from the hospital. And then you have to know where it's going. Now you got to transport it. If you're going to ship a body and that's what happened here. That body has to be embalmed by licensed and bomber. And then it's got to be placed in a particular shipping container. Now we got to preserve it. You can't hold it and transit more than 24 hours after death after death. It has to be maintained at a temperature. No more than 40 degrees Fahrenheit. I don't know how they did that on. Air Force to maybe put it down on the cargo hold and just let it freeze with the rest of the luggage. I don't know. And then there are penalties associated with this here. But you have to get this permit. You have to get this disposition permit. It's a it's a. Let me see if I can. There it is a burial transit permit. And this has to be filed with the state. The burial transit permit has to be filed by the state. In other words. State offices aren't open in the middle of the night. The middle of the night in order to transfer the body from one place to the other. You've got to create a record. So we have to know where it went. There is some record out there that will tell us where Charlie Kirk's alleged body went. These are the burial transit permits right here. Another code section. It's all just going to be a little cap and gownie at least at the beginning. It's going to be a little bumping for those of you don't like words. And some of you don't. Some of you don't. Rec was a registration prerequisite to internment burial transit permits. We know there was a certificate of death. For deaths and fetal deaths, which occur in this state. No burial transit permit is required for let's see. It's not going to be. In the state because we were going to need one because this is this position occurs in the state. Well, that didn't happen. Disposition occurred in allegedly Arizona. And the bear the burial transit permit shall be issued by the local registrar of the district. So this is a this is something you have to get approved by a government official. This is something that cannot happen in the middle of the night. A burial that's bodies coming in right here. And so you have this. You've got this requirement again. There's a paper trail that's coming up. A lot of people loaded me to this. I got a lot of tips on this. People said I just don't see how it's possible. I had a I had a grandma dying Utah. We wanted to take her back to Colorado to bury or back to Nevada to bury. And what I've learned is a lot of people have ties to Utah. But they live in the surrounding states. And so they want to be they die in Utah. They want to be buried in Utah, one of the other. And so you have to get these permits going back and forth. Most people tell me these permits take weeks to get. Like your body stays on ice for two weeks, four weeks. And because these permits take forever. Not when you're Charlie Kirk. When you're Charlie Kirk. There's actually requirement in Arizona for incoming people. We have that statute. If you are so bored and would like to read it as well. I'll go ahead and flash it up here. Just so you know we're not making it up because we get accused of that sometimes. And it's not true. This is the disposition of disposition transit permits. This is for human remains coming in from out of state. You have to they have to be involved and they have to have this permit. They have to have a permit funeral establishment response person must submit the information required. And get this again, another state records. And now we'll have a state record in Utah. We'll have a state record in Arizona. And the reason this is important is. You can't just go cremating somebody or burying somebody without telling it without filing with the state where you're doing it. So if Charlie Kirk has been buried were told he was buried. I think they hinted he was buried. Maybe we weren't told he was buried. We were hinted he was buried. We're told there was a funeral at a cemetery. Most people when they go to funeral as a cemetery as soon the body goes in the ground. But there are a lot of people questioning that. So. If he went in the ground, there's a record somewhere someone in Arizona has access to that record. That you can't just. You can't just put somebody in the ground. Now let's say they decide we're going to fake a burial and we're going to cremate them instead. We're going to fake the burial. We're going to have all the families show up. They're going to sign India's. We're going to put the casket out there. We're going to tell everybody we're going to bury them. Then they're going to leave and then we're going to go cremate them. You still have it? have to have a record. You still have to have a record. Meaning there's some bureaucrat in Arizona that has access to that database. In that bureaucrat, not just one, there are probably hundreds of bureaucrats in Arizona that have access to that database, could search by his name and it would pop up and it would say whether he's been cremated, where it was done, who presided over it, or whether he was buried, where he's buried, and who presided over it. If the final disposition took place in Arizona, that would be on the record somewhere. Someone in Arizona working with the state is able to confirm that. Probably not on the record because I don't think they're allowed to do that. But you know how people are. Curiosity gets the best of people and they look at the disposition permits and say, was he buried or not? I hear all this conversation about he wasn't buried. Let me just look it up real fast. And they would be able to tell you real quickly. Was he buried? Was he cremated or do we have a record of neither, nor do we have a record of him being transferred out of the state, which means he's just hanging out somewhere. He's just on ice somewhere, literally on ice somewhere. But the point of this is the more administrative headache that the state requires with all these disposition permits, with all these registrars, with all these documents that have to be filed, the more time collapses, the more time things take. If you've ever gone to the state for any kind of thing, you show up at the Vital Records Department and you want a copy of your own birth certificate. It takes time. It takes time. You mail in a thing and three weeks later, maybe you get a copy of your birth certificate. Maybe three weeks later, you get a copy of a letter that says you need more information before you get a copy of your birth certificate. I've been through that. So you have those types of records. Now, what else is required? What other records would be available? And the reason I raise all this is if we're going to have a criminal trial, we should be able to see some of these records. You're going to have to produce some kind of a dead body. You're going to have to produce some sort of evidence of the fact that this all took place. So this is an example, a list of some of the things that the medical examiner's required to keep. This is back in Utah now. So this medical examiner Guajardo and Amaro, they are required to, their office is required to keep all these records. There's some records custodian somewhere that has access to these in theory. Medical examiner shall maintain complete original records of the medical examiner record. They shall be property indexed, giving the name, Charlie Kirk, or Charles Kirk, or otherwise identifying every individual whose death is investigated, the place where the body was found, UVU or Tempunogus Hospital, the date of death September 10th, I can go ahead and fill this paper in for you. I mean, if I, if, you know, someone's taking notes, you can create one of these. The cause and manner of death, that's going to say gunshot wound. Manor, that's the cause. Manor would be homicide. Indicate the occupation of the decedent. I don't know wildly successful podcasters slash non-profit CEOs slash authors slash. What else did he do? I don't even know what all he did. Include all other revelive and information concerning the death and a full report of the detailed findings of the autopsy and a report of the investigation. So all that stuff should be preserved somewhere. That's going to come into play here just a second because this is where we go on team Erica when it comes to this record. Believe it or not, Erica and I are on the same side on this. So that last thing is that all other relevant information. There's something called a secure facility body intake log. This is a timestamp log. And this timestamp log documents the exact second that the transport van arrived to the medical examiner's office. It'll identify the driver of the transport agency. It'll identify the physical integrity of the body bags forensic seals. In other words, they don't just wrap them up in a sheet and toss them out into the minivan. They do it in a dignified manner. They put them in a bag. They seal the bag off. They sign the seal. So if they don't have it, let's just say they don't have this. This is something that's not available to them. They're going to cut. They're going to have trouble when they go to the trial. They're going to have real trouble because there's a rule of evidence in Utah 901. And the requirement of authenticating or identifying an item of evidence, they have to produce sufficient evidence to support a finding that the item is what they claim it is. In other words, they're going to have to bring somebody in from the office of medical examiner to say, yes, that record was kept in the ordinary course of business. And it is precisely the way it is in a record book. This is just a copy of it. You know, we're not going to give you the original, but this is a real copy. They can't admit these things without someone standing in the stand saying that stuff. There will be an internal chain of custody tracking sheet. It's an internal log. It's step by step. It tracks the body as it was moved within the medical examiner's facility. This is cold storage. This is over to the x-ray the x-ray part. Maybe they bring the x-ray to the body over to the autopsy table back to cold storage. Every step of the way, there's a signature. There's an entry. There's a probably electronic these days, but there's some sort of a record to the second of when that happened and where it went. And this is going to be very important because again, this seems to be very, very fast. One of the requirements of an autopsy is that the body be cool. You're not going to cut into a brand new hot body. He hadn't been dead that long. Eric had testified. He was still warm when she showed up. That was at four o'clock. So she shows up at four o'clock. He's still warm according to Eric. Well, if he's warm at four o'clock and he doesn't go to the medical examiner's office to eight o'clock, when did they cool the body down or nine o'clock, eight thirty, whatever. When did they cool the body down to a sufficient temperature because the rule in Utah is the body has to be below 40 before they dig in below 40. So you've got to get the body and you've got to put it in cold storage. You've got to put it in what they call, I don't know, the mord or whatever they have. But you slide the body into basically a giant cooler. You see these on like CSI Miami. I don't know. Again, I don't watch TV. I have no idea if there's a cooler, more modern show, but that's the last cop show I remember. But you see they pull the body out of the mord. They're literally in cold storage. 35 to 39 degrees usually. And you have to bring that body down to temperature. Why? Because an autopsy takes time. An autopsy takes two, three, sometimes four hours or more. If you're working on a body for three or four hours, and it's not down to temperature, when you start, it's going to deteriorate very, very quickly. Bodies begin decomposing almost immediately. As soon as your body stops, the heart stops beating, the oxygen starts, course stops coursing through your veins, the bacteria begins to grow. You begin immediately to to suffer the effects, gases build up. I mean, it's it's grew some stuff, but it's nature taking its course. This is normal. In fact, a lot of the bacteria in your lungs, I was reading about this back when I used to do HIV litigation. A lot of the bacteria in your lungs, scientists, certain scientists believe is there to speed up the decomposition process, because the lungs are right there in the middle of your body, kind of like from your head to your from bout of stern or whatever. The lungs sit right there in the middle, and if they're just coursing with bacteria, the second you die, they start immediately amplifying, consuming, and they start that decomposition process. Well, you're going to want to cool the body down and keep the body cool. If the body doesn't show up to the morgue until 830, or to the medical examiner's office, like 30, when do they cool it down? To get it out there by midnight. To get the thing done by midnight. That seems very, very compressed. A very, very compressed timeline. There's a body release form custody transfer log. This is legally required. It's a receipt document. When the body is released from the office of the medical examiner into usually a mortuary service will pick it up and take it back to the mortuary to do the embalming or whatever. There's a log. There's a log at that point. And this is a little gruesome, but when they're released, they're not like funeral ready. You can't just roll them out to the funeral five minutes later. The mortuary service actually does quite a bit. They sort of piece the body back together. They sort of sew it back. I mean, there's a lot that goes into this. But they, that takes time as well. That takes time as well. So we know the body left the office of medical examiner before 445 AM. It could have been as early as midnight because that's when all the pictures were done being taken. It didn't leave on Air Force 1 or Air Force 2 rather until 315 PM roughly is when it arrived to get to Air Force 2. And so if there's no custody transfer log, the state now has a gap. They have a gap. And it's at least a 12-hour gap. It could be as much as a 16-hour gap where the primary physical evidence in a capital homicide, meaning the crime scene, the body itself, is sort of floating around out there. And there's private parties. There's third parties that are in possession of this body. [BLANK_AUDIO] secured it's unmonitored. And keep in mind all of this is before we've ever heard the name Tyler Robinson. All of this is before Tyler Robinson gets a lawyer who can say, "Hey, wait a minute. You can't slow down. Slow down. We have a right to preserve everything. We have a right to make sure everything was done properly. It was almost as if there was a race. Let's get this thing out of here before we have a criminal defendant because once we get a criminal defendant, everything may stop dead in its tracks. And we can't have that." And so you'll have transport logs, transit logs. There'll be dispatch logs. There'll be GPS tracking data. We're in the year 2026. We'll have GPS tracking data. There'll be an escort vehicle that follows a private transport van. All of this is available. All of this is supposed to be documented. So if they don't have it, if they can't produce evidence of that 40 mile or so transport from Tampa, Nogas to the medical examiner before or from the medical examiner back to the mortuary service, then they can't prove where the body went. And I think they're going to have trouble proving where it went because there were people standing outside the medical examiner's office. And they don't recall seeing a body. Now, it's a team, Erica. This is the part that's fun. I'm going to go to a filing of hers. This is a filing, Erica made. Now again, Utah allows this weird situation where the actual wife or whoever it is, here let me close it. The victim representative they have in Utah can actually file stuff. And this is an example of what she filed. A supplemental notice concerning access to evidence presented in open court. In other words, Erica has an opinion on what we the people should be able to see. And I happen to agree with her in this case. She's the widow and duly recognized victim representative, buying through the undersigned council. Notice supplements, the notice yada yada. As before, Miss Kirk asserts her right upon request to be present and heard on the matter affecting her interest. And so does so on behalf of the victim's family. The victim's family position is simple. Good. At a minimum. At a minimum. Every exhibit entered into evidence during the preliminary hearing must be visible to every person lawfully present in the courtroom. To receive evidence in a manner shielded from those seated in the courtroom has happened today is not transparency. And in the absence of transparency speculation and conspiracy theories will continue to proliferate in the public domain relative to the tragic assassination of Mr. Kirk. Breeding doubt and trust into the judicial system. We don't want doubt and trust in the judicial system. This is not what anyone should want. We agree with you, Miss Kirk. Doctor Kirk. We agree with you. We think every single exhibit entered into evidence must be visible. We could not agree more. It certainly would have prevented what happened on the final day, where everybody walks out and says, oh my gosh, they've been showing you this blurry big foot footage, but you should have been there on the final day. It was HD 4K. We saw it all. Okay, great. Can we have it? Erica thinks we should have it. I would like to see it. I'd like to double check Agent Poso. Is it really that good? There were other people in the courtroom, like Rainian Billy who said maybe it wasn't. I'd like to be my own determiner of fact. Absolutely every single piece of evidence needs to be made public. Absolutely every piece of evidence needs to be made public. So what is the relief? Miss Kirk is asking for. Let's find out. For the foregoing reasons, Erica Kirk, on behalf of the victim's family, respectfully request that the court at a minimum order all exhibits admitted into evidence during the last three days that were not published to the courtroom. Be so published during the proceeding schedule for July 9 so that all persons lawfully present in the courtroom may view them. Well, you know what one of those pieces of evidence was? Do you know what one of those pieces of evidence was? It was the medical examination. It was the autopsy report. All we got to the autopsy report was an officer stating that he heard from somebody that the manner of death was homicide and that the cause of death was a gunshot wound to the neck. We weren't able to see it, but we know it was exhibit 11. We know it was offered by the state and we now know what's in it that autopsy report is going to have a number of things in there, including the manner and cause of death that they told us the conclusion, but it's also going to have a whole lot of other stuff like the time the body arrived where? What time did the body arrive in Taylor'sville at the medical examiner's office? We don't know. We're guessing around 838-45. What time did the autopsy start? Where did the body move about in the facility in the meantime? Did they take it to the morgue to cool it down? How long did that take? How long was it there? How long was it on ice? After it moved from being on ice, where did you go then? Did you go exactly right to the autopsy table? What time did that take place? When did the autopsy begin? The actual opening of the body, the examination about, when did that take place? How did you determine the body was the proper temperature? Who was in the room? That's going to be in the autopsy report. We know only one name. It's an officer, excuse me, Sergeant Barrett of the state Bureau of Investigation. As we discussed last night, we can't find one. We can find one Sergeant Barrett in all of Utah and that Sergeant Barrett is a highway patrolman. She does traffic stops. She does corrects. Who was in the room? Other than a single cop, you would think there would be an autopsy assistant, maybe? That's typical. Who was that? What was that person's name? You would think there would be maybe an x-ray attack of some sort. You want to do an x-ray. I think it's pretty standard to an x-ray anyway on an autopsy, I think. But if you don't do an x-ray, how do you know if there are bullet fragments in the neck, for example? You should be able to know the answer to that question. Did you do one? That should be in the autopsy report. Erica Kirk has said that she has seen the autopsy report. She claims she saw it. So it's not like when her lawyer goes and files and says we want everybody to see all the evidence that was submitted into evidence that she doesn't know what's in that autopsy report and she would go, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa." I know we said all. I know we said every. But I forgot about the autopsy report. That's not how it works. There wasn't a lot of evidence. I think there were only like 16 or 17 pieces of evidence that they entered. A lot of those were videos. If you know what the evidence is and you've seen the evidence and you direct your lawyer, I'm assuming you directed your lawyer, you direct your lawyer to go intervene in the midst of a preliminary hearing, which is I think highly unusual. And that lawyer says we want it all out there in the public that I think we should be able to see that because all of that information we discussed should be available. It should all be somewhere. We should have access to it. And I agree with the lawyer. The absence of the evidence is causing wild speculation about what's happening. This was my point yesterday with the videos. I don't know whether he jumped in a car when he jumped off the roof. I doubt it. But he might have. I don't know if he made a phone call or some car pulled up and talked to him when he was standing in the parking garage for stairs. I don't know whether he pulled out a second phone and that's what they don't want us to see. I don't know whether he was doing hand signals to someone in the parking lot. I don't know. I can't know. But I do know when you clip the footage, you show him walk up and then we see it jump ahead like a minute. And then it picks back up and it shows him walking down. And you guys don't mention that it jumped ahead and you don't tell us why it jumps ahead. In the absence of evidence, conspiracy theories run wild. Because my mind, the way my mind works is, I look at all this and this is what we did. We pulled up all the footage and we looked through all the different footage that they showed that day. And you started to notice these things were missing. There were a lot of jumping around, there were a lot of things missing and they tried to do these sizzle cuts. They tried to do these edits where they have arrows and circles and the judge said, no, no, we're not doing edits and circles, we're not doing sizzle cuts. But then he allowed him to put in segmented evidence. He allowed him to put in evidence that had been clipped from the middle. They did it on the roof, they did it on the parking garage. I want to say there was one more they did. And I can't remember the other one. Maybe him walking through the stairwells, I think maybe walking through the stairwells one time, the time jumped a little bit. But it's my contention, Tyler Robinson didn't do this. I don't think it makes sense that Tyler Robinson did this alone. And if Tyler Robinson didn't do this alone, then it's my contention, he was probably working with somebody or that that wasn't Tyler Robinson at all. Or that maybe Tyler Robinson was one of the people that was working with whoever we keep seeing on camera. I don't know. Maybe Tyler Robinson was a dairy queen and joined some chicken tendies and a blizzard. I really have no idea, but if you're going to jump the footage around while cars are driving through the parking lot, I'm free to speculate that one of them stopped and talked to him. I'm free to speculate that he called out, picked up a phone and called somebody and you can read his lips maybe or whatever. I'm free to speculate that he sat there and texted somebody, seems like he was on his phone all the time. If he gets up on the roof and you tell me he put the gun together and you don't show me, you don't show him putting the gun together with a screwdriver. I'm free to speculate. He didn't put the gun together with a screwdriver because why else wouldn't you have shown me him putting the gun together with a screwdriver. This is a key part of your narrative. You want me to believe he was limping into campus because he was had a giant gun down his pants. That 30 out of six is a big gun. I mean, it's just tall as like a 12 year old. It's like almost four feet tall, maybe not 12 year old, maybe a 10 year old. That's a big, big gun, more than three and a half feet tall. If you're going to tell me that he limped on the campus because he had a gun down his pants and I just got to trust you, bro, that the video footage you cut out shows him pulling a gun out of his pants, I'm free to speculate he didn't pull a gun out of his pants. You should see my notes. I should show them. You should see my notes from when I was watching the preliminary hearing. Every time they did this, I wrote like 10 things that he could have done in the time that they jumped. Like I think at one point, I said he could have had to go to order to cheeseburger to the roof and had door dash delivered up there. I don't know. I doubt it, but he could have. That would be interesting delivery instructions. I'm at Utah Valley University campus. I'm actually in the Losi Center, but not in the Losi Center as much as on the Losi Center. Enter from the south stairs, walk up to the top. You'll see me. I'm in all black. I've got fatigues on. I've got a helmet on. May or may not have a 43 inch long firearm in my hands. Yeah. Go ahead and drop that off. You'd like my cheeseburger. Bring a double-fudge Sunday with it if you could. I don't know. Why can't I speculate about that? Did he do some assaults up there? Did he barrel? What did he do? Where did he go? Because you keep stopping everything. Same thing with the autopsy report. I'm free to speculate at this point that an autopsy didn't happen. Why? I haven't seen one. I'm free to speculate that they did a crappy job on the autopsy. They did the bare minimum. Here's what I think happened. I'm free to speculate on this. Am I right? I don't know. But I agree with Erica Kirk's lawyer in this situation because I don't know conspiracy theories are going to run wild. I think at 10 p.m. August hospital, they decided they weren't going to do an autopsy. I think that police officer who radioed over the signal, I don't have my little little box. Oh yeah. Well, there's no autopsy going to happen. They're just going to sign the death certificate. The wife's on her way. I think that happened. I think somebody showed up and said, look, we're not doing an autopsy. We're just going to get the body out of here. We're going to call in the medical examiner. They're going to wave the autopsy. We're going to prepare the body. Get all the paperwork in order. We're going to ship the body to Arizona. The reason I think that is because Brian Harpoel made such a big deal on the shine. Ryan show about needing an autopsy. Brian Harpoel seems to try to make himself the hero in every story. Brian Harpoel was willing to risk his own life to try to save Charlie's. Brian Harpoel the way he tells the story, he's actually hanging out of the car. They're doing 60, 80, 100 miles an hour. They're yanking and banking. Apparently now we know from the 911 call that Candace talked about today allegedly. We know that they are yelling at traffic to get out of the way. So apparently there was traffic while they're yanking and banking and doing 60, 80, 100 miles an hour. But Brian Harpoel loves to be the hero. He loves to put himself in the center of the story. He loves to make himself heroic. Don't sue me, Brian. I'm allowed to speculate because we don't have the information. But because he wants to make himself the center of the story, he likes to weigh in on things. He likes to weigh in on what's going on. So he tells the story of him hanging out of the door and Rick Cutler because he's got the tattoo. He's hanging on to him. Then he's stuffing 36 feet of gauze inside of Charlie and he's he's doing this and that. Then they get to the hospital finally, they get out of the hospital, they get him, they throw him up on the stretcher Brian Harpoel man jumps up there. He's cutting shirts, he's ordering people around. I need two CCs of this. I need that stat. You got to say stat in the medical and if you're in a, if you're in a medical emergency and you don't say stat, were you in a medical emergency at all? Did it really happen? So he's saying stat, he's get there here, here they, he's ordering the medical professionals around. He wheels Charlie. I think this is his story, let's go back and let's do it. But I think he wheels Charlie into one of the rooms and then he decides Charlie might need a defibrillator so he cuts Charlie shirt off. That's a prime example of somebody putting themselves in the story because nearly every medical professional that has reached out to this program and others has said that did not happen. I've seen videos on X, I've seen videos on YouTube, nurses, emergency room nurses, emergency room physicians, everyone's like, if someone tried that in my emergency room, I would have them arrested. There's usually police there. Get that man, put him in prison, put him under the prison. So if Brian Harpel has this, I've got to be the center of attention thing going on. Then there's something going on relative to the autopsy because to hear Brian Harpel tell the story, he walks in and the doctor looks him in the eye, I have no idea why the doctor would look the security guy in the eye and say, what do you need? But Brian's telling the story. I think I'm telling the story correctly. Again, don't sue me, Brian, I'm trying to be right. I could pull it up and show it, but that's boring. It's more fun when I tell the story. But if you don't believe me, go check the story, it'll tell the truth. But I think this is what happens and he goes and he, he tells the doctor, we need an autopsy. That's what we need. That's the one thing we need. Apparently, they also needed scrubs, but that was a difference to Frank likes to tell that story. Apparently, they also needed scrubs, I don't know what happened to their clothes, but they needed scrubs. That's what he needed. I need an autopsy. And again, I've never been a security professional. I've never had a friend die on me like that and tragically in person and I've never been in the hospital, confronted with a doctor asking me in the wake of an assassination attempt, what do I need? But according to Brian, the first thing that came to his mind was an autopsy. And the reason is because he didn't want any of these dead-gum conspiracy theory. This is a little bit of main character syndrome, in my opinion. Brian has now put himself in the story, but didn't, it may not have happened. That whole story may not have happened. And it leads me to believe that something weird happened with the autopsy. So I take Brian Harpole's story about, oh, we need an autopsy. We don't have a JFK experience. And then I take the radio call from the cops saying they're waving the autopsy. They're not going to do an autopsy. They're just going to sign the death certificate here and release the body. And I put the two things together and I say, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. I do believe before 330, before air could got there, that was the decision that was made. That the decision was made, there was not going to be an autopsy. And remember in Utah, that's a lawful decision. We looked at that law yesterday. There's two classes of people who can demand an autopsy, a medical examiner or the law enforcement, either the county attorney or the attorney general. Only those two classes of people can demand an autopsy. Someone from the office of medical examiner, someone from the county attorney or attorney general's office. That's it. the mind. Mom wants one? I don't know if they can require one or not. If the wife wants one, the statute doesn't say they have to have one. They probably would defer to the wife in that situation, but it doesn't say that they have to. I think along the line, somebody said, this is a really bad idea. You're gonna want an autopsy here. People are not going to accept this case without an autopsy. It's a very high-profile political assassination. Keep in mind by 3 p.m., my time, ABC news had broken into the regularly scheduled programming to cover the Charlie Kirk assassination without commercial interruption. I'm not sure they thought that was gonna happen. That was a big issue. I remember flipping around on TV thinking, all the networks have broken in on this. I mean, Charlie was a big deal, I get it. I mean, he was a well-known guy. But it's not like it was Trump or Vance. It's not like it was Obama or some former president or even a Secretary of State. It's not like it was Marco Rubio. It was a podcaster. It was a podcaster. No, if something happens to Sean Reiner, they're gonna break in on ABC news. I doubt it. His Sean Reiner's podcast is higher ranked than Charlie's was. If something happened, Joe Rogan? I mean, Joe Rogan has the biggest podcast in the world. If something happens to Joe Rogan, are they gonna break in on ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox News, MSNBC, CNN? Are they gonna break in to round the clock coverage without commercial interruption? On the death of Joe Rogan, the tragic death of Joe Rogan? Probably not. And I doubt the people affiliated with Charlie Kirk thought there was gonna be around the clock joined in progress coverage. From major news organizations. Because that started about the same time that the call went out that there wasn't gonna be an autopsy. And then two months later, Brian Harpole gets on a podcast and he has now created himself as the main character saying, I'm the reason there was an autopsy. I demanded an autopsy and I wanted it done fast. That's why we got an autopsy, ladies and gentlemen. Brian Harpole. Now, that's how I took the story. That's the effect on the listener, Brian. That's how it came across to me listening to Sean Ryan show. And so I think at that point, they said, how crap? We have a real problem on our hands. We were trying to get this thing out of here quick. We wanted this body back in Arizona before anyone figured out he'd even been shot. And now we've got to do an autopsy. How fast can we do it? So the medical examiner shows up. I think around 10 to five, we have a news camera coverage that shows the medical examiner show up. I think it was on 4.49 or 4.50 Utah time. Surround four and a half hours after Charlie's picking out. Medical examiner shows up, medical examiner probably walks in and they're like, we're gonna have to do an autopsy. But here's the catch. The vice president's coming in tomorrow. That body has to be on that plane. And if you know anything about secret service, vice presidents don't hang out at airports. That's not the way it works. It's a very vulnerable place for a vice president to be. A very vulnerable place for any of any secret service protect you to be. You don't want to be in the airport any longer, you have to be. You don't want to hang out on the tarmac. All of the defenses on Air Force one and Air Force two work in the air. They don't work on the ground. All of them. All the missile deflections and all that. An airplane on the ground is a sitting duck. And we remember in the wake of 9/11, for example, there were people who got into the secured area of airports with firearms with weapons. There were people who employees who got out on the tarmac with weapons. The airports are very large places, very difficult to contain, very difficult to lock down and secure really. So you don't want a secret service detainee hanging out on the airport. And so the decision comes down. We're going to have to this has become a major news story. We're not going to be able to sneak the body out of you tall before anybody finds out about it. It's kind of like Osama bin Laden, you know, they told us he was dead after they had dumped the body in the Indian Ocean. Hold on, I don't know if you can see. I don't know if you can see the eye roll, but it was there. I promise, but they told us they dumped the body after they told us they killed him after they dumped the body. I think that was the way they wanted to break the news on Charlie Kurt. They wanted before anybody really started doing any coverage, Charlie Kirk to be back in Arizona safely, back on home territory, back at Hanson, Mortuary or wherever they plan to take him back. But unfortunately for them, they had to do a an autopsy. Now imagine you're the medical examiner. You're doing an autopsy that nobody wants. You're doing an autopsy that nobody wanted in the first place. You're told this has to be done quickly. You're told that the vice president of the United States is on his way and he's expecting to leave quickly with a body. He's not going to hang around on the tarmac for eight hours waiting on you to finish. There's really nowhere else for him to go and you tall. They haven't done advance. When the vice president travels, they do advance work. They hadn't done advance work that day. He just showed up the same day he left. I mean, like, unless they knew Charlie was going to die before September 10th, they had no idea to go ahead and sweep for bombs and put snipers on roofs and all the things you do in the vice president travels. He just they just flew them into an airport. Again, not a very secure place to be if you're the vice president of the United States. And so there's a lot of pressure on you, the medical examiner. Not only to finish the autopsy, but you can't transport a body fresh off an autopsy. It's hot again. It's been back at room temperature for several hours. It hasn't been in bombed. And there's a law that you have to inform the body before you transport it out of the state. You have to have this disposition certificate we talked about. That's the reason I went through all this. All these records should exist and they should start existing from the moment he showed up at the hospital. The moment he showed up at the hospital, the moment they declared him dead, he's no longer a human being. Unfortunately, you become property. You become the property. You become in the custody of the state of Utah. Wherever you die, you're the custody of that state. And there's somebody charged with taking over each step of the way. There's a chain of custody that takes place. Mr. Charlie Kirk bang on at 1223. He goes down. They take him to the hospital. At some point, they declare him dead. Mikey McCoy, allegedly, the general himself, the admiral Mikey McCoy, the bravest man in the history of mankind gets on the phone with the vice president of the United States. Get to Utah. We're going to have you transport him out of here, stat. Again, you're in medical setting. You got to say stat. Get him over here. Get over here, stat. Okay. No advance work. We got to fly in the vice president. So you wheel the body into the Emmy's office and you know that their time is ticking. Not only do you have to do an autopsy, you've got to get the body transported from the medical examiner's back to a mortuary service company that can that can dispose of the body. Somebody has to pick up the body. They have to drive the body back to a mortuary service place. They have to do bomb the body. They have to prepare the body. They have to put it in a transportation casket because it's leaving the state. All of this is why I think they were going to waive the autopsy because all of this slows the process down considerably and keep in mind we don't yet have a criminal defendant. We don't have anybody in line that can object to the disposition of the body. We don't have anybody yet that can object to getting the body out of the state. And so the clock is running. The vice president's coming. We don't have a criminal defendant. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. How thorough do you think that autopsy was? I mean, I can see a situation where the Emmy shows up and it's like, look, it's late. It's the middle of the night. They're making us do this. We didn't initially want to do this. We didn't think it was necessary. The doctor didn't think it was necessary. Everybody kind of roundly agrees what happened. He got shot in the neck with a 30 out six from the Losis and a Roof, but they're making us do this, guys. So let's let's roll. We're not going to do the best autopsy we've ever done. It's going to be quick. It's going to be dirty. It's going to be done. We're going to check all the boxes. And then they go through the process. I think that's what happened. I think if we saw the autopsy report, we would see that's what happened. Because we would know what time the body got there. We would know whether they cooled the body down. We would know what time the autopsy started. We would know what time all the photographs were taken. We would know what time the autopsy finished. We would know what time they called the mortuary service to come pick them up. And they would know what time they actually picked them up and they would know what time they inform the body. All these times would be documented. They would all be contained in a report form that we could look at. And that's why I sighed with Erica Kirk. Erica Kirk filed a piece of paper saying I want everyone to see that information. That was exhibit. 11. The judge accepted it as evident. Erica Kirk's lawyer said all evidence that's been accepted, I want the public to see. In other words, I'm not morbid. I'm not a vile creature or whatever Blake likes to call people that ask about how Charlie's body was disposed of. If you're going to call me that, you've got to call Erica that because I'm on her side on this. I'm on team Erica. I want to see what happened to the body. I have strong reason in the absence of evidence to launch into wild conspiracy theories about what may or may not have happened. The absence of evidence allows the mind to just go crazy. I could come up with all kinds of wild scenario. I could come up with a scenario where they didn't do an autopsy at all. They just sort of cut a Y in his chest and move some organs around and said, all right, let's go. One of the things we talked about tonight, I'm not going to pull it back up, but the tissue samples, those are supposed to be saved somewhere. They were supposed to take tissue samples as part of the autopsy. I think I looked it up. I think and they take vile tissue, I'm doing this off my memories, don't, don't, don't quote me on this, vile tissue, blood urine, maybe stool, um, heart tissue and maybe brain tissue. I'm not sure, but they take like six or eight pieces of tissue. And they take a good amount and that stuff is preserved. It's somewhere. It's available. It can be inspected and the law in Utah is it has to remain preserved until the disposition of the criminal case, meaning if you go to a death penalty with Tyler Robinson, that tissue has to be preserved until the day the needle is in his arm. You can't just go getting rid of it. You can't just remove, you remove that stuff. You can't dump it. And if you don't have it, that's real evidence that something was done very wrong at the autopsy. The other thing you could do is take a DNA sample of it. I want to do, you know, find the defense. I'm doing a DNA test on that heart tissue, doing a DNA test on all of it. I want to know that that's his body. It's hard to get DNA from, it's hard to get a heart tissue out of a living person. That would prove death, I would think. I tell a funny story real quick. I had an infection on my arm when I was, I don't know how old I was. It was 2009, June of 2009, I had a really bad infection on my elbow, something called MRSA. It's awful. It got down into bone kind of, like it's all just all over the arm. It was going up my arm up this way and down this way. It was terrible. I was in the hospital for a long time. And when I was in the hospital, they initially just were putting IV lines in my arms, but they were putting this horrific combination of drugs in my body. And it was blowing the veins out. It was so toxic. It was just like destroy the vein. They would put it in my arm and then they'd just blow the vein out. So they stopped doing that and they put it in a pick line. That's just a line that dumps into your heart, right? And I kept telling the guy that I thought it was too low because every time I leaned forward, it was like, give me a jolt and he was like, that's impossible. And I was like, you need to back it up because it's hitting my heart. And he was like, no, it's in your head. It's not a thing. Can't hit your heart. I was like, I don't know, man. And it did it while you're sitting there, just my whole body jerk. And I was like, I'm telling you, dude, it's hitting my heart. It was like, fine. I'll back it up a half an inch of that. I'll make you feel better. I was like, please, please, please. And he didn't. It felt better after that. Never happened again. And I forgot about it. Pickline was in two or three weeks. I had this little portable carrier and it was giving me IVs the whole time. I had to change out of bag or something every few days where it could shoot more IV in me. More antibiotics. And I forgot all about it. And then it's time to take the pick line out. So I go to the appointment to pull the pick line out and the lady pulls it out. It's a weird feeling, by the way, just, you know, like pulling this giant line out of your arm. And when she gets to the end, there's this goo on the very end of it. And she picks it up and she kind of does this with it. And it's like raw hamburger meat. And she was playing with it. And she had this really weird look on her face. And I was like, what is that? She's like, I don't know. I've never seen anything like that before. I was like, what? You've never seen that? She's like, no, I've never seen that before. And I was like, what do you mean you've never seen that? She's like, it looks like muscle. And then it clicked. And I was like, that's my heart. She said, what are you talking about? I said, when they first put the pick line in it kept like jolting me every time I lean forward, every time I sneeze, every time I laugh. And it jerked me. And she was like, I think that's your heart muscle. So I don't know if I got a little bit of a hole in my heart or whatever if something ever happens to me, someone checked that. Make sure they do a good autopsy. Make sure you get it and check out that area where the pick line would be landing in my heart. See if it didn't eat damage in there. Statue of limitations has already run on that claim, but I'd like to know, I'd like to know. I don't even know how to, oh, tissue samples. So these tissue samples should be preserved somewhere. Someone should have a copy of these tissues in. But I'm telling you right now, that is my current position. My current position on all this missing evidence goes to the most conspiratorial angle. The most conspiratorial. If you're going to clip footage out of him standing at the top of the parking garage, my mind goes to he's talking to someone. On the phone and a car, some maybe someone walks up to him, that's where my mind is going to go. Bam, bam, bam. What are you going to feel really stupid if you come out of trial and you're just standing there for a minute? Okay, then they should have explained it. They should have explained it. They should have said that he didn't do anything, so we just clipped it down for the second time. I guess stupid to save a minute and a five day hearing, but you should have at least explained it. Don't try to pull a fast one on me when cars are disappearing and shadows are jumping all over the screen. Because it's obvious. The time stamp jumps. It's obvious. You cut a minute out. And if you're not going to explain it and you're not going to show it to me, my mind is going to go crazy. Don't tell me he pulls a gun out of his pants and assembles it with a screwdriver. If you're not going to show me, show me him, show him doing it. I need to see him doing those things because other than that, my mind goes to a place where that didn't happen. Because if it happened, you to show me, it's intrinsic to your story. It's an inherent part of your story. I apologize for the gross descriptions of my heart. I apologize, ladies and gentlemen. It won't happen again. I won't conclude this way. I don't know what Candace is sitting on, but I wouldn't want to be Blake, Andrew, Erica, Tyler Boyer, or anyone else right now at Turning Point, USA. I wouldn't want to be Jeff Gray at the Utah County Prosecutor's Office, what they call the County Attorney's Office. I wouldn't want to be Cash Patel. I wouldn't want to be the director of the State Bureau of Investigation, Bo Mason or whatever title is public safety. I wouldn't want to be any of those people right now. I wouldn't want to be Sheriff Cowboy Hat there in Utah County, the movie star. I wouldn't want to be him either. Because if Candace tells you it's going to be a big week, I'd buckle your safety harness. I'd tune in. I anticipate the attacks will amplify this week. It always happens that way. I do find a lot of irony in what she's doing. It seems pretty obvious Blake is gone. He's on vacation or somewhere right now. He's not going to be back on the radio until Wednesday. It seems pretty obvious Eric is gone, she's nowhere to be found. She did her speech in Seattle and is vanished off the face of the earth. It seems pretty obvious, Andrews is headed somewhere also. It seems like he's headed somewhere. And I love the irony in it because every time Candace goes on vacation, the attacks amplify. You remember when she went to Russia? They went crazy. That's when they launched the attack on George Farmer. They launched the attacks on Candace and she's this and she's that. And she goes to Spain and it goes on overload while she's in Spain for a week or two. That just nuts. It's just crazy. Your humble host doesn't face that problem because I don't take vacation. I don't have to worry about it. We don't do vacations in the column. No, we do. We do. Just not often. Not often. Maybe we shouldn't. But the attacks tend to amplify. And when you have this amplification and attacks, every time she's on vacation, it's only right that she should wait until they're all gone to launch her attacks. And I think that's exactly what she's done. I have this strong suspicion that that it's going to be a really ugly week for these guys. It's going to be a really ugly week for the Fed slot narrative. And it's going to be a really ugly week for TPSA. Really, really bad. Two people who have committed to the mountain of evidence, and I'll give my final warning. I think this may be my final warning I'm going to be able to give you guys. You should run, don't walk, and try to get a deal. That's my take. That's my take. You should try to get a deal. She had braids on the day, gentlemen, braids. She wasn't wearing a bun. She didn't have on a hat. She had braids. The braids, she's prepared to bring the heat, I'm afraid. And if you guys are committed to this fed slop narrative, if you're committed to this mountain of evidence, you're going to get caught with your pants down, particularly if you're on vacation and you can't respond, it's going to be bad. I think you're in for a really, really, really bad week. It's my final warning. If you have a lawyer, it's only six, 30 years on a time right now, follow him, it's a good time. It's a good time to put him on notice and maybe make an appointment for the morning. You're not going to be on the radio anyway. All right, guys, excuse me, I started to cough, I hit the cough button. I appreciate you joining the program. If you have not had the occasion to hit like I warned you would be a little capy and gownie tonight. We have to cover the whole case and sometimes the case involves going through the requirements of the disposition of the body before you discuss what happened to the body and we had to do it. We had to do it as part of the case for the case. Everybody says, would you represent Tyler, are you going to watch the hearing all the way through? The air and talk about the hearing with us and do an eight hour live stream. And I always say no, because court court is boring. Court is usually pretty boring. Sometimes investigating crimes are a little boring as well, but we have to do it. We have to do it. I just set up the rest of the week. I have a meeting Friday. I can't miss. So I will not be on the air at all Friday. I'll do a member show tomorrow tomorrow. I will not be on the air in the evening in all likelihood. Might just had to jump on after her show, depending on what she drops tomorrow. But I will do a member show in the afternoon and then we'll see how the evening goes. But I will definitely do a member show tomorrow in the afternoon. And then Wednesday and Thursday, I'll do my regular live show. And of course, I have my meeting Friday morning and that's going to last so long I will not be able to prepare for anything Friday, not a member show or a regular show. So I'll be out Friday completely. Then I'll be back Sunday. That'll be back Sunday. So that's kind of a setup for the week. Again, like, subscribe, notifications, all that good stuff. You know what to do. You know what your intelligence, but I will say that that YouTube is really changing their algorithm. And if you don't interact with the video, if you don't comment, if you don't like, if you don't subscribe while you're watching, they think you hate it. Don't do me that way. Figure out how to let the like button you TV people. You'll be better off for it. All right. Let me roll through some of your comments. And we'll get here. We need Tyler Robinson did not kill himself merch. Now that's too dark for your humble host. Someone else will have to do that. That's way too dark for me. If one were to stop twirling in a certain and a curtain while playing wedding music and wearing a dress on their way to have a lovely dinner with Blake, when would she still be a six? God. Can I call her a six? Oh, God. Oh, did I say that for real? Yeah, she would. She'd still be a six. Wondering if no autopsy would have been possible to retrieve the bullet fragments. No, no, they told us they got them at the autopsy. When Candace said I have explosive, I thought she was going to say diarrhea. No, no. I don't think so. She hadn't been eating Minnesota lettuce. My heart stopped because I was thinking about parasite and food. Always medical. All pregnant women stay away from this tummy sniper, get fluids, the RFT hydrate. Is that really a thing? I don't know anyone around here who has it. It must be localized. I was going to ask you because you said Minnesota. I was going to say, well, what I was going to text you off here and say, what's going on with the lettuce? I heard it's up in the upper Midwest. That's why I said Minnesota. I'll be looking into that. It's like the typical upper Midwest state, right? Scary. We do not want our audience afflicted at a job today. A customer had a on a Duncan aviation polo. I casually said I've never heard of them. He said, quickly, I do work there and I can strange. Maybe he's just a weirdo. Let me say this. I don't think everyone at Duncan aviation is a criminal. I don't think everyone at TPSA is a criminal. I don't think everyone in the federal government is a criminal. Are there criminals at Duncan aviation, TPSA, or the federal government, sure? Are all of them bad people? No. Of course not. Agencies, I hate the most. Probably stocked with some pretty decent people just trying to do their job. Make a living. Prayers for my family as we've been trying to grow, but have been facing fertility challenges in the last few months. The right family. Christ is king indeed. For those of you listening and not watching, it's the WRIG HD. Not the right, like, you know, the right, the right hand, but no, no, the right family, the right family. I'll have the right job. Not that. Not that. The right family. WRIG HD. Well, I certainly will pray for the right family. Pray for my son Eli's 13 with Type 1 diabetes currently in the hospital because of DKA. I don't know what DKA is, but I wouldn't want it. So I certainly will pray for Eli. I've got to say number one from Cave City, Arkansas. I didn't know there was a cave. I knew there was a cave city Kentucky. I've driven through it. I've been to it. I've vacationed there. Get that off of him. Yes. What was it? I can only think of a few things. I can think of perhaps a pulse oximeter, but why would you scream, get that off of him? That doesn't make sense. I can think of a shirt, but that was told the shirt was cut off at the hospital. I can think of a road microphone, go wireless microphone, but why would you need to get that off of him? Maybe something fell on top of him in the chaos, you know, like a coke or a bottle of water or something? You wouldn't want that on him, maybe. I don't know. I really don't know. Since we're pro Erica today, I brought everyone sparkling pantsuits and fireworks sparklers for the occasion. Keep going, Max. I forgot. I should have. That's so good. You're so much more creative than I am. I should have worn a sparkling gold blazer for the decade. That would look great, man, if you heard of Fommy Malak, I have not. He was allegedly the Clintons, Emmy and Arkansas. He's interesting. Thank you to you and the team for all you do Christ is King indeed. Never heard of him never heard of Brian Harphold dropped his phone in the SUV two hours five. Sean right, you know, I believe you. I believe you. I'm not going to go back and look at it. Thank you. King Baron. I don't support this episode. Oh, shy. I hope you watch the whole thing. Maybe by the end of me since it was a petroleum soaked burn gauze. They meant to get that off of him search McKesson five by nine burn gauze. He has a six like the unopened one under the mat, charged crumbles in the ball in SUV. I know y'all email averse wasn't sure. If you wanted input, why would you have a petroleum, it's that a thing petroleum soap, burn gauze? Is that a pot petroleum, oh petroleum soap burn gauze such as Vaseline petroleum gauze zero foreign gauze is a sterile, not adherent primary wound dressing impregnated with petroleum jelly designed to keep minor burns moist and prevent the bandage from sticking to healing tissue. McKesson five by nine burn gauze, he has like I have to look at that. Is that really what it is? Because that's an interesting choice of gauze for a gun shot one. Thanks, Baron, for all you do. Well, thank you. Jay notes 1973 for all you do. And we know who the person was and then bombed Charlie, I mean, we could guess, we could guess by based on where he was that it's someone who worked there. I don't know if we didn't, I don't think we'd name the facility. I did say it was in draper, Utah. Maybe we did name the facility. Did we name the facility? Yeah. We did, we did, like a whole episode on it. Half Anderson funeral home, that's where you're all it is. So yeah, he, I would assume is someone there. I don't know. I don't have the, the paperwork, but if that's the funeral home, they took it there. Be someone there. Charlie said, no, Erica, TPS, they said, yes, it's clear to what a brand just ordered the true nature and character of our federal government by Abel Parker, up. Sure. Thanks for being you. Thanks for telling me about your book history. You had me with the title. Good one. It's true. I'm team Erica today. I'm on her side on this issue. Release the autopsy report. She said so herself. She wanted it out there. She's waived it. She's waived the privacy. Today's my baby's 29th birthday. Can you please wish him a happy birthday? Get it. Your number one humble county fan. Thank you. Crisis King indeed. Get it. Happy birthday. Best guest C.K. Buried on Glenn Brecht's private ranch. Is that something we can find to FOIA for a license to do so? So we use FOIA rather liberally in this context. FOIA is for federal records. So it probably isn't a federal record for burial on Glinnbeck's ranch. But you know, I don't know, maybe they probably have to do some sort of local to Idaho, I'm assuming you're talking about the Idaho ranch. You have to do some kind of whatever Idaho's version of the public records or questions. Hi Bee, just wanted to tell you I'm proud of you. And thank you a great role model. Appreciate your dedication to pursuit of truth. I think we're closer than we've ever been to truth. I think we're going to find some things out. That'll be very interesting. Baron, do I need to give you holy water to drink in this episode today? No, but we have some here at the house. I could have. I wanted to. Yeah, I don't know if it is sterile. This gives me hope for our future and truth to prevail. Keep going. Max Sir Baron, much love in Christ's King yours truly from Wyoming. Wyoming, Minnesota must be a city. I was thinking the state of Wyoming. If the government is desperate enough to resort to this sloppy Russian assassination, we should all be very worried about the current situation overseas. Yeah, I think that only ends one way. I don't like where it's headed. I'm team Erickad. Don't you put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby? Hey, just today, just today, one, what did I title it? A day on team Erickad. Not a week, not a month, not a life. A day, a day on team. So excited for the revelations this week from you and the principal loving the hoodie color. It looks like a khaki green to me. I'll allow khaki green. Happy, hey, be Christmas in July. My, all my casual clothes have trumpled them. I turned them inside out now. My hubby surprised me with a new wardrobe this afternoon. All RBP gear. Love it all. Thank you, Nurse Casey. Christ's King of D. Nurse Casey is the merch goat. She's the goat of merch. So thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. And you're going to look great in it. I don't know, I don't know, roll that beautiful bean footage, but I hope all I hope you as well. I do too. I just thought about that yesterday when I said roll that beautiful bean footage. Check in with us. Just to let us know you all right. They're sending me an email or something. Baron, is it just me or you surprise the Tyler Robinson's defense hasn't taken on, is hasn't been taken on as a pro bono case by a lawyer. I don't trust his defense team. No, and I'm going to stop answering any questions about the defense team. I've probably fielded 100. My position is not going to change. He has the lawyers he's going to have. They're appointed by the state. They're paid by the state. I think he feels like he gives him his best chance of success. If, if Tyler Robinson decides to make a change, then that'll be up to him. He's an adult. If he goes with a private lawyer, he's going to have to pay for it. If he goes with a pro bono lawyer and all likelihood, he's going to have to pay for all the experts and those are going to be expensive as well. Hair looking sharp might be. Thank you for what you're doing. Oh, is it really? Thanks, brother or sister. Um, Baron, I quit morning. My husband and called father Ripperger to be here. Maximum. Love you. Love you more, Rosie. Um, I saw, I saw an interesting video today on Tucker Carlson. And I was a former friend of his. Doesn't sound like a current friend. I just saw like a two minute clip, but it was a guy basically saying he needs to call an exercise and I thought, well, that's awfully, you know, it's awfully forward. Um, Thursday opening was beautiful and needed. Thank you. Thank you. I held my dad's hand last month as he took his last breath. Your show gets me through my long nights at work. I haven't missed show since Google trends blessings blessings indeed. Thank you. Regarding time opening statement, just taking the time to express how grateful we are. You made the decision to share your humor, thoughts, experiences, wisdom, crash outs and ingenuity with us full time. Yes, sets you apart and why we love and appreciate you. Uh, GBY. Go be yourself. That's what I'm going to say. And thank you, my B. Thank you. Just say Julie. I appreciate that. That's very kind. Very kind of you say that. That means a lot to me. Dispatched catalogs are worm systems. White wants to read many, right? Once read many. Uh, logs cannot be deleted or the whole system is considered corrupt and nothing is admissible. Um, kind of like the blockchain, I guess. Like you can't change one block, bear, bear, bear on finally made a life, bring for safety and blessings for you, your family and daisies. Uh, thank you for your time being a vital part of my evenings and making long drives bearable since November. Keep going max Christ is King indeed will do our best. And thank you for the kind words. One of two. Oh, we got a multi-parterly. Yesterday show 25 years in pathology here. Autopsy can be performed. Same day, but results final report take days, sometimes weeks, depending on what kind of autopsy is needed. Um, and I think this autopsy report was completed within a week, maybe a weekish and give a couple days on either side of that. But that would be consistent with that. Yeah. Asking for prayers for my son and his wife. They have spoken of the rest of our family for over a year now. The opening statement on time last week resonated so deeply with me. Love you be. Um, wow. I haven't spoken of the rest of our family for over a year. I've heard that so much on this show and it just breaks my heart. I just can't imagine. Can't imagine. Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. Team Erica never thought I'd hear those words from our humble host. I hope it's a worthy cause because I'm always team Candace. Those two are definitely not on the same team, even though they should be. Um, I bet they're on the same team on this issue. I bet Candace also wants to see the autopsy report. I haven't asked her, but I could. Two of two tissue samples taken need hours of fixation and minimum overnight to process a machine. Didn't cut tissue put on slides for pathologists to look at absolutely no way. All that was done on 910 25. I guess Nikki my follow up since you seem to be next. Could that all in the answer very well, maybe yes, but could all that part be done after the body's released or do you have to hold the body in order to make sure. Um, you've got this that the samples work out. And I don't know the answer to that. Uh, but that's really good intel. Thank you. I haven't been in the chat in a while. This is for some goat water. Keep you hydrated. It's on sale at Whole Foods with your prime membership. Keep pushing for the truth. Julie, thanks for looking out for me. I'll be sure to hydrate. I got a bottle right here. I haven't even cracked open tonight. I got it out. Where did you go? Why would you have no interest in seeing autopsy photos? They could recall a lot about what really happened under his closing. Yeah. Okay. I'll look at the photos of his body. I don't really want to see his insides though. Kind of. I'm kind of squeamish on that stuff. I'll look at the I'll look at the wound. The x-rays because that's you know the x-rays x-rays and in the in the chest about that. I'll look at that. Second Thessalonians 3-3 but hey, and good point, Max. Good point. Second Thessalonians 3-3, but the Lord is faithful and he will strengthen you and protect you from the evil one. The irony of the number 33. Love you, my big old Max and Christ is King. I mean, I'm one fan and that city in Wisconsin. Monco waga. Monco waga. Wisconsin. We hear the thing about it. There was no 33 in the original text. The chapters and verses were added much, much later. One thing you'll never hear from that 9/11 call is Frank Turk and Rick color praying out loud. Well, I was told Frank was in the back praying. Now, maybe he was praying to himself. Maybe he was muttering under his breath and it wasn't picked up. If that 9/11 call exists and was removed from the system and and people filed grammar requests asking for it and were told it didn't exist, I think that I think that's a crime. I think as a crime to lie in those in those responses, I could be wrong. I need to go back and look at you tall long. Could the potas have sent his own medical examiner for Charlie? Could he have yes, did he know like private hire and paid to cover everything up? I asked because of how fast it happened. Well, I mean could have showed a widow, but no, he did not because we know it was a guy named Guajardo and he was the assistant or deputy medical examiner. Just subscribed to membership and wanted to send a super chat as a thank you for your hard work and thrown us throughout this been watching for a while and finally able to support go Max and stay safe. Thank you, Claire, man. Thank you. I really appreciate that. You'll be hopefully present on the member show tomorrow. We'll have a good time. They're a little more laid back. If you've not ever been a member, go watch some of you'll see there's a different type of show. I remember the interview Erica gave early on. She said she saw the autopsie report. If a report was even done, I have no doubt a report exists. I have no doubt that there is a piece of paper that says autopsie report. What I'm doubting is the veracity of that report and the supplemental documentation that would support that report and the thoroughness of the auto. I have no doubt there's a piece of paper. In my opinion, the Nolan W from Mississippi is off as well. What a don't allowed watched 18 year old boy drink boat ocean swim. That's who's responsible for tragedy. The adults parents please please take care. If you have a safe, please take accountability with justice. What is justice? I have no idea what you're talking about. I know that. Jess, I appreciate your comment, but I don't know. I have not followed that case. I don't even know what it is. Your opening statement on time moved me to tears. Lost at a 19, mum to pancreatic cancer, lost an anticipation of loss, gave me a profound awareness of time. Your words captured it and exquisite truth. Thank you, love you, Vee. Yeah, I talked to our editor over on the clips channel, and he is gonna make a clip out of that. But it's probably a week from now before you'll see it. Baron first ever, super chat. You were made for this work. Made, created, formed. Thank you. Thank you for your bravery. Please say hi to Brooklyn, Sienna, and Jackson. Biggest fans in Kitty Letter, Arizona. Go max, Christ is king indeed. Hey, after visiting Arizona, it did look a lot like a Kitty Letter. I'm not gonna change my opinion on that, but it was beautiful. The beautiful Kitty Letter box. In fact, at one point we got detour. We were somewhere in Phoenix and trying to get somewhere else. And it detour us through this area. It kind of went by like a little zoo area, if you know where that is. And it was gorgeous. It was like up a hill, two lane road winding. There were these giant, what looked like boulders, but I guess they were mountains, but they looked like big rocks. It was wild. Capping gown on. I did graduate summa cum laude after going back to school after 25 years while working full time. Love my high Q outfit peeps. I'm one from Gray's Lake Illinois. Thank you, B, Christ is king indeed. Congrats on that high graduation there. summa cum laude. Does anyone know what I can do to stop the buffering during this show since bearing changes, settings on podcast buffers very, his podcast buffers very frequently. Show's the only one thanks in advance, Christ is king. I've not heard that. Does anyone else having buffering issues? I was unaware. I was unaware as fast they pay the scene. I bet CK got cremated. I certainly believe they tried to cremate. I certainly believe they tried. I'm not saying they tried. Don't misquote me. I believe they tried. I've reasonably tried. I'll watch your opening statement on time again, even more impactful the second time. Wise words from your humble host. Regarding my last comment, sister passed two years ago, age 41. For other than he was 18, please pray for my parents. Man, I gosh. Life is so hard. Life is so hard. Congratulations on reaching the 350. The road to 500 will be fast. Do we hit 350? Oh, please. Let me go to my dashboard. Oh, we did 350, 409. Wow. If you've not subscribed, now's the time. You don't want to be the last one. I don't know why, but you don't. You don't. How about that? That makes me happy. Thank you guys. Thank you for subscribing. It means a lot to me. And don't forget to subscribe to the clips channel. I'll pull it up. It's right here. It's right here. It's a, it's a fun channel. The editor over there does such a good job. You go to Baron Coleman clips at Baron Coleman clips. See, I've subscribed to my own channel. But yeah, you, this is great. It's, it's fun. So you'll know you're on the clips channel because there's a little yellow, whatever there. A yellow circle, a yellow clip, six clips up there. But yeah, it's a lot of fun stuff. See, I've even watched some of these clips. I don't like watching myself, but I do watch them occasionally. Make sure the editor's doing a good job over there. Don't forget to subscribe. Like and subscribe those as well. Hey, that's a fun channel. If you just want a little dose of Baron, you don't want too much Baron in your life, just a little piece here and there. Hi, B Julian Dory episode with Joseph Scott Morgan, backed up that a 30 out six could have wound and scoffed at another theory. He praised you taught in the office thoughts. I did eventually watch that whole episode. It took me several tries to get through it because I was busy. You know, I, I think he's an honest guy. I don't think he's a fed slapper. I don't think he's a dishonest individual. I will betray that I have actually spoken to him on the phone in the last couple of weeks. We talked for about an hour, about an hour. Very good conversation. I think he's a legitimately decent human being who tries to get the right answer. And we disagree on that. The reasonable minds can disagree. I think he has a, I don't see a bias, that's not fair. He's not here to defend himself. He has a reason for trusting medical examiners and the medical examination process considering his background and what he does for living and what he's done for living. But we had a very good and fruitful conversation and maybe we'll talk again. We left it open to chatting again. I'm doing a little research. He's doing a little research and we'll come back together. But it was great. You know why? There was no hostility. There was no hostility at all in the conversation. It was, I was eager to learn. I asked him probably 70 questions in an hour, maybe 50, I don't know. He asked me a lot of questions. Both of us were very eager to learn. There was no pompous attitude, no name calling, no anything like that. And I think when you approach a difference of opinion with that attitude, you can learn a lot. You can learn a lot. For me, the value of what he can testify to or what he can testify to, what he can say on a podcast, the great value to me that he can add is about the process. What is the norm? Who should be in the room? 'Cause one day we will see this report, I think, or at least a redacted version of it. And if we get upfront from him, what it should look like, how long things should have taken, what particular procedures should have been performed, in a case like this, because he is an expert. If we get from him those sorts of details, and then we see the report, and it doesn't look like that, then something was awry. If we get the report back, and it looks exactly like that, well, it lends merit to the fact that it was done properly. And that will add a lot of weight to my conclusion in the end. I sit here right now, firmly convinced it was not shot with a 30 out of six, and that a 30 out of six was never on the roof. He obviously differs. And I'm okay with that, okay. I don't do this show to try to convince people to see things my way. I do it to learn, and to articulate to the best I can how I see the world. But Christ is king indeed. I agree with you there. Any evidence of L.T. being gay, trans or a furry? None that I've seen. And also curious about the text history for TR and L.T. prior to 910, to confirm a really stupid text better. Yeah, I mean, we don't have it though. I too am curious, but we don't have a grandfather, B. I will grandma. Keep up the great work, continue prayers for your family and Daisy. Thank you for your commitment to truth. Thank you for your steadfast commitment to sharing the good news of Jesus Christ. Thank you, I appreciate that. Good news indeed. A lot broken from this read, what a tragedy for that poor woman. That they brought the remains of her baby to her like that after the lies and obviously criminal behavior, the crown of terrific. Thank you for sharing this. I thought it was, I came across that a while ago, and I wouldn't sure the day to talk about it. As you know, I keep a long list of things I'd like to maybe pursue an opening on. And that was one of them. And I kind of had this bullet pointed out and my sources linked for a day like this when we were gonna talk about where is he? Was he buried? Was he cremated? Do we know? And today was the day, it was the day. So thank you. It has a horrible story, a horrific story. I don't know what I want done with me. I can't go into the ground because I'm terrified of bugs. I heard they just give you any ashes of cremated. I actually talked to a guy at a crematorium one time, quite by accident, was not intending to talk to him. It did not know what he did for a living when we started talking, but I had to ask the question. Do you remember that tri-state crematorium scandal? It was, I think up in Chattanooga or Georgia somewhere, but it was kind of where Alabama, Georgia and Tennessee come together. It was years and years and years ago. But when they raided the place, it was a war zone. I mean, it was just a horrific environment. Bodies everywhere. They said people were getting, 'cause they didn't want to pay to run the crematorium. So they were just throwing bodies out in the back of your heart, really. And they were given people like concrete dust instead of ashes. So I came across this guy and this is what he does. He cremates people. And I asked him about the process, it's gruesome, but I asked him about the process. And, 'cause I have a lot of metal in my leg. And I asked him, like, if I got cremated, what would happen to that metal? He's like, oh, we got a whole bucket for that stuff. And we just sweep it out and toss it into the junk bucket every now and then go get money for it. But no, it's a really fascinating process. But he let me in on a little secret. And I did not know this. What you get back is not ash. It's bone. It's ground up bone. Everything that can. be consumed is consumed. This is what he told me. You know, I didn't double check it. I didn't do any Google searching. But apparently what you get back as ash is like round up bone. He said, that's all the remains. Everything else is gone. Isn't that wild? That's just what he said. I don't know. Maybe he can't be believed. But hey, as for the bug thing, you're not going to know. I got bad news. You know, no one's going to tell you about it. I sense a you can't have America without Erica campaign slogan in the works. Holy Toledo, that would be a good slogan. You can't spell America without Erica. I mean, you can because she's a cave, but you know, I believe Charlie was sacrificed to ball and his body was eating diabolical. I thought that was a joke going around on next to people really believe that. I thought that was a joke. You know, all in Benjamin's a professional comedian. Like he does stand up shows. He's the one that came up with that. Maybe he was serious. Sup, Serby, Serby. I've been promoted. I've been knighted. You heard it here first. Thank you for today's class informative. Have you noticed that Candace ain't even acknowledging bun, bum, be in you two are moving with extra confidence nowadays. Sup. I'm confident right now. I'm confident. I messed up my first super chat. L.O.L. Franklin, Indiana here. Home of fuzzy van diver. One of the greatest high school basketball players of all time back in the 20s or 30s. The wonder five. I have three doodles. Noted. One comes into the bedroom later than the other three. He comes in and I say welcome in, welcome in. Welcome in. Love the show. God bless. Welcome in. Welcome in. Welcome in. That's, um, I don't welcome anyone in except on this show. No, think I'd rather. My favorite things to hear one when talking about the seats we're sitting in. You will only needs the edge of it today. Ladies, gentlemen, it's going to be a cap and gown day. Well, today was a little capy in a little county. No doubt about it. No doubt about it. This may have been asked but could TR's parents have signed an India? An India with whom? Who would have asked them to sign an India? I mean, your, your question is could. Yeah, they could have, but I don't know under what circumstances they would have. Hiya, my humble host. I appreciate truly appreciate you in the work. You and the gang do on this program. It's become part of my daily routine. Also, I love the way you say because that's all Christ is king indeed. Love to all. Um, I was not aware. I said it weirdly, but when I said it just then, it did sound a little weird. I did. Someone did say I pointed, I said, was a little weird. I, I, I was aware of that. Uh, on an episode, AK said when we paid some witches to put a hex on Charlie. If said witches were under an India, it is Freudian emission, but just potentially released them from that. Do you think Andrew paid for the witches? I'd have to see that citation. My being Daisy, you're so very smart. Oh, thank you. I found out today our baby has a congenital heart defect, likely requiring surgery after birth. All prayers greatly appreciated. Thanks for all you do be and for this great community prayers. Indeed, war, D for M in three, AGL three. Um, pray that goes well, and I pray that missed. I hope I actually, I hate to say this, but I pray it's a misdiagnosis. Actually, I don't hate to say that. But I hate that a misdiagnosis would put you through all that. But man, I hate it. Your students are ready adorned in our caps and gowns. The opening statement was fascinating. Baren, you're simply the best indeed. Christ is keen. Thank you. Thanks to these moon goddess had surgery to fix her pacemaker today. I'm asking for prayers for quick recovery and no further hiccups. Thank you, B and jury. Miss Jackson. You are fully. Um, well, thank you. Thank you. I, um, tell her we wish her well, honestly. And she's not going to hear this. But if there's any PT after that pacemaker fix, expect her to be on it. Opening broke my heart. I lost my full-term grandson while my daughter was in labor. We couldn't even have an autopsy because we didn't want his body cut into that poor woman. Oh, gosh. That'd be a tough decision. I hate that you had to be faced with it. Uh, blah, blah, blah. Baren, if TR goes to trial, would he be advised not to take the stand? If I knew my innocence, I would, but I'm told by legal pros, that's usually not advised, but why? He's innocent. In my humble opinion, Christ is being indeed. I don't know. I mean, I've had cases of mine where the criminal defendants took the stand and I've had cases where they didn't. Um, one of them was an unmitigated disaster when he decided to take the stand. He was cocky and arrogant. I thought he was smarter than everybody in the room. And he was not. Um, he was advised strenuously not to take the stand and he did. Um, and it's ultimately his call and it was terrible. It was an absolute disaster. I don't know if he would want even, even if he didn't take the stand, but they did not help his case at all. Certainly didn't help us sentencing at all. Um, I mean, it really, there's so many factors. You can't, you can't sit from the outside and say whether somebody should or shouldn't take the stand. I see legal experts do that on TV all the time. It's just you can't possibly know. You don't know what your clients told you or what that client has told his lawyers. He may or may not have done. You don't know what impeachment testimony would potentially come out. Um, you don't know the details of the case as well as they do. So no outsider can make that determination. Um, you know, if you don't think they've proven their case, there's really no advantage in taking the stand. If you, if you think you're in trouble, there may not be a disadvantage in taking the stand. Uh, I feel like Charlie Kirk's parents were threatened for them not to speak out. Plus Charlie Kirk's dad at the funeral with two black eyes. I don't judge him on the two black eyes. I think he was probably a deep grief, deep grief. Um, I will say this is parents look a lot older one year later. That doesn't surprise me. Miraculous autopsy and paver time record. Yeah, it's hard to know which was faster. The decision to pave over the crime scene or the autopsy itself. Bear a daisy. I work in organ tissue procurement. I know a lot about Emmy autopsies, etc. If you want some more info from someone who deals with this daily, let me know. I'll send you an email. Thank you. Poison kiss. Does that handle hurt your dating life? I'm just curious. I'm just curious. Have you seen what the doctors saw about JFK eerily similar to about taking JFK out of Dallas back to DC? Yeah, he was going on a hurry. There's a lot of consistencies in the JFK case. I love rowdy bring it edge. We'll bring it. It's called a burial permit. Oh, well, in, in Arizona, Utah, they call it a disposition permit in the statutes. I wonder if Charlie was an organ owner of, I don't know. Can you believe what Charlie's dad has said about the murder of his son? You know, Charlie's daddy worked for Trump. Charlie's daddy's a cow. Howard, even if he's real, not real. I don't know what he said about the murder of his son, and I don't hold that opinion. I don't know why you do. Baron, is there a record for Thomas Brooks disposition before cremation since Emmy claimed to be unaware? I don't know who Thomas Brooks is. London Hospital kept my daughter's organs without my knowledge. 32 years ago, Lawrence organs were returned to me a few years later. Some slides and samples will never be found through the samples being one of two. If I can find two or two real fast, shared anonymously. Lauren was cremated 32 years ago, but her organs were buried as I wasn't permitted to cremate organs during your opening night broke my heart. Oh, my gosh. I bet it did. You can still have a burial in the cemetery with ashes. Doesn't have to be a body in the casket. Go back. Christ, this king indeed. That is true. That is true. Bea, I think you may have nailed why they need the TR narrative to work. If it is listed as a gunshot wound, there's no need for more investigating in Utah. The Emmy called it. Case closed, no autopsy needed. Yeah, it sounded. I am starting to think they were pressured into an autopsy and they did not want to be in that position. I really think that radio call kind of gives it away. Oh, I already read that. Check LDS records. Massive amount of records for burst and deaths all over the US. I'm assuming you're talking about for Charlie. Press or VP could override need for legal docs. No, no, but they might be able to speed up the process. You know, if you, whether you like the president or not, if you hear the president in the United States is waiting on you to do something, you're probably going to move a little quicker. I would think so. Is it possible he was buried in his home state? Of course. Of course. They would have to have a record of that. They would have had to transport the body again. But yeah, Ben Shapiro is now like the greatest man alive. Alex Clark at C-A-L-S. I was there in DC because I run a T-P-O-S-A chapter. They are complete idiots knowing C-K didn't like them. Anyways, go max. Love you, Ben. Alex Cole. Clark said that? Is he like a mafia Don or something? Why is what is up with him? He's a weird little podcaster. I'm sure he doesn't think too highly of me either, but that's okay. Mr. Beacon, grads on 350. Thanks for all you do. You know, without you guys, I'm just talking to a light all by myself. Oh, by my stuff. Is that Eric Carmen who's saying that? Oh, please. Eric Carmen still got it. (laughs) My daughter Emily passed away on 12, 30, 17th, the age of 23. I live in Indiana. Took over two weeks to get her body home with all the red tape and autopsy was performed. It was an accidental OD. It was a nightmare. Christ just King, indeed, give it a whirl, hold on a second. I forgot to plug in the fan on the camera. That's wild. That's wild. Yeah, that tells you that being out of the state within under 24 hours of the medical examiner taking custody of the body is unusual. Highly unusual. Highly unusual. B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-barren. What if the medical examiner rules the death as an accidental electrocution? Does the examiner have to follow the same rules? Law. I don't know the answer to that. We don't have to because the medical examiner ruled the manner of death was homicide and the cause of death was gunshot wound. Is anyone reached out to T.R.'s construction workers to ask them the last time he worked, what topics he often talked about, et cetera? I have not, and I've not read where anybody else has. First super ever. Absolutely love this high IQ outfit. Love in the North Carolina mountains. Go max, Samarit, Christ just King, indeed. Thank you. Thanks for joining the super team. I can't make sense of it if Tyler is unknowing. How does not one family member friend, et cetera, not speak out for him? Yeah, honestly, the silence of the family either means they are extremely confident in their defense, or they just don't want to get involved because they think it's better if they don't. The correct clinical terminology is from the rooter to the tutor. I don't think that's the correct clinical terminology. I love you, Big Christ. I think it's about a stern, but I could be wrong. The rooter to the tutor, of course, you filed that because you knew it would never come out. I'm not buying it. They didn't go as they planned, the only decent PR she said. I don't think that was good PR. You know the preliminary hearing was a disaster because of the PR strategy that week and the week after. If that preliminary hearing had sealed the deal, it would have been completely different outcome. The attacks would have stopped. They would have taken the high road. They would have ladies and gentlemen. You saw the evidence. It indeed was a mountain. We promised a mountain. They delivered a mountain. We will not be speaking anymore on this topic. It's overwhelming. And then they would have shut up and gone away. I'm at the point where I'm actually gonna need them to prove to me in court of law that Charlie is dead first. I still want the truth if he's alive. We still want, we will still want the truth if he's alive. Too many involved. I think he's dead. I apologize this already answered, but if the rifle was down to your pants, wouldn't his sweat DNA be on the barrel? You'd think his DNA would be all over it. You remember, I think it was the rifle where they said, his DNA was the most degraded of everyone's. You would think if he was sweating all over it all the way up there, and it was rubbing all over his, I don't know it was in the front of the bag, but if it was in the rifle holder in the back, you know what I'm talking about? The tutor, to quote, I'm not being ugly, I'm quoting our previous commenter. But if it was in the tutor, down his leg, you'd think there'd be so much DNA. You couldn't get, I mean, it'd be all over it. Along with the E. coli and everything else. I caught alive, grateful for you and all you do. Oh, thank you, Samantha. Welcome to the live team. Welcome to the team. Thank you for speaking truth and opening so many eyes to the FEDSLOP corruption. May God bless you and your family for the sacrifices you make to share truth. Go Max Christ's King indeed. Thank you. Appreciate that. Can someone show that's in the judges' circle? Please figure out a way to have him listen to principal Owens in the Great, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, bear on. My brain hurts from all this stupidity that's happening around this case. That's up to the judge, what are you watching? Didn't the police say on radio, Erica chose not to have an autopsy? They didn't say she chose not to have an autopsy. I understand why that confusion exists because the radio call existed in the context of her flying in. And she was going to arrive at 330th signature. They were going to pick up a car at Duncan, pick her up and drive her over. So that was the radio call. But in the midst of all that chaos, they talked about not being an autopsy. They were just going to sign the death certificate. I really believe they underestimated the amount of news coverage. And all of a sudden they're like, "Oh, we don't do an autopsy. He's going to get really weird real fast." So is it true, Ariel Goldsmith was the M.E. for Thomas Crook's and Charlie Crook per Ken Silva on Tucker Carlson show, isn't that interesting? I don't know if that's what they said. But that is not true, isn't it true? The medical examiner for Charlie Crook was a guy named Guajardo. I'm pretty sure the reason no one's showing autopsy stuff is because six months before his death, Pritchard and Peck made it illegal to disseminate any autopsy information that wasn't previously public. I think that only applied to the photos. I don't think that was any information, but I'll have to go back and look at that bill. Yo, yo, Baron R43684 states the body must be under 40 degrees or in bomb. So he didn't need to be at 40 degrees now, was he in bomb? No info. He was not involved until afterwards. We know that for a fact. And so it would have to be below 40 degrees. Good catch, though, good catch, good catch. I like the way your mind works. Believe, read those in courtroom, not open to all. Yeah, but the public was in the courtroom. And so if you're going to show it to the courtroom, you're not going to show it to all of us. I'll get Braini and Billy back in there and show it to them. They were there, they'll tell us what it says. Sergeant David Barrett or officer Brian Barrett. I don't believe so. I think Sergeant David Barrett is on the highway patrol. Let me look here. Yeah, he's on the highway patrol. I think that would be odd because they said he was with they claimed from the stand. Again, are these people not accurate in their testimony is the autopsy report on accurate, but they claimed it was a sergeant Barrett with the with the state Bureau of investigation. Let's see, Brian Barrett. Now, that's a new name. I've not heard you. See, is it officer use it? Yeah, Brian Barrett also is you tall highway patrol. Oh, and Brian Barrett just got a job with the South Salt Lake police department. So I don't think it's them. I don't think it's them. I think we're still on the hunt for the sergeant Barrett from the state Bureau of investigation that was cited at the case. Could Sergeant Barrett be the same as the mystery cop in the low sea with baggly continuing Max for Charlie and the truth, right? Just King indeed. If you guys have not seen nissy socials video from yesterday, after we're done here, go watch it. Because that will answer your question. I think she has identified the cop and it's not a guy named Barrett. But man, she delayed baggly and here's the thing. They're going to have. Sorry, hang on. All right, there we go. I should have turned the fan on earlier. Cameras had a little trouble. They're going to have trouble winning this case without officer baggly. He is crucial to the case. They're going to have trouble winning it without baggly. And nissy social made the good, a good case that baggly can be impeached with his prior testimony. He looked bad after her video. I'll be honest with you. Bag less. He's bag less, not baggly. Please do a deep dive on Loretta Fuddy. I did a whole opening on Loretta Fuddy. Go back and go search my name in Loretta Fuddy. You might find her parent death was also filmed. I guess it's how they like to do it. Things go back and watch that opening. Go back and watch that open. You know what's funny about that? I think it's still in it, hopefully. I have a group chat of a bunch of guys that I've known forever. And yeah, the group chats named name is uh, let's see here. Edit name. Let's see here. Yeah. Loretta Fuddy and the Frogman. That's the name of the group chat. So yeah, we've talked about Loretta Fuddy on this show and I've known about Loretta Fuddy a long time. That group chat's been around for like 10 years. I don't know that it's ever been deleted. It's a long group chat. Um, but yeah, yeah, yeah. So we've done that. We've done that show. Lost my two-day old son's Zachary in 1987 at 32 weeks. Never saw his body after he passed because it was recommended not to. This hit home for me because I always wondered if we really buried him. I would look at my son. I'm not signaling you to anything wrong. Okay, following medical advice not to look at the body, I get that, I understand that, but um, I'm just a naturally curious person that would uh, I, man, I hope it didn't cause you any distress. Uh, tried sending first super earlier, I didn't see it. If Charlie held against his will, like is Charlie held against his will like Hughes, his logic, he thought he was on a staged exfiltration to protect his life, unaware it was a trap. Um, I doubt it, but maybe, maybe. I'd love to see TRS text for all of 19, not just those allegedly between him and LT from that day, same, same friend, same. Maybe they want to get Charlie back to Arizona quickly in time for shove it. Yeah, maybe, maybe they had a couple days, they had a couple days, they had to, what Friday sundown. We love you. And if those hoodie strings were a little more even our OCD would love you too. Are they not even today? There we go. Is that better? Even enough? There you go. Cool. You take your plaintiff as he comes. Uh, uh, I would love being on a jury with you, sir. What a ride. Bryce is king indeed. Oh, thank you. Thank you. I thank you would enjoy it. I used to have an 82 question litany I did on the, on these medical cases. And, um, I don't think those jurors liked me too much. Actually the other day, uh, somebody said something on Twitter and it reminded me of a deposition I'd done in Indiana long time ago, like 2014 or 15. I can't remember when it was. And I went back and read it. It's 300 something pages long, but I was up, it was late. Mrs Coleman was asleep. I didn't have anything to do. And so I sat there and read the whole deposition. It took like two hours. Um, and it did not make me mistrial work. I'll tell you that, but I got to that part where I went through my litany and I was like, flipping pages. Actually, I was on the phone scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll. I got to the end of it. In my opinion, if you're trying to pull off an assassination by yourself, you're going to be paying attention to everything around you. You won't be constantly distracting yourself with your phone unless you need to be. Um, yeah, I mean, you know, maybe you'd be a better assassin. And it said that you told me just resigned, but I can't found verification of this. Do you know anything? I don't. I only know what she said. I too looked, but I only know what she said. You rock, Ben. Thank you for the work you do. Two things. Now, let me say this real quick. She rarely says something so confidently without being right. I trust her on it. Is there a low raised ledge on the roof of the loci? I think you're right. They did not do it on autopsy. You think Charlie was screaming at it? That's three things. That's three things. I'll allow it. Is there a low raised ledge? So this is interesting. Blake Bednar's actually did good work on this. Um, on his page, he had a video on his X feed. I don't know if it's still up or not. I'm only looking for it the other day. I can find it. But he had a drone or drone footage. I don't know if it's his drone or someone else's. But it came right down like a foot or two off the loci center roof and it kind of hung there for a second. And that was a lip. It was like a four inch lip. Now, you would only know about that lip, in my opinion, if you'd been on the roof. And so it's possible whoever got up there did not know if they had unless they'd been there before did not know such a lip existed and thought it was flat all the way off and then had to get up there and accommodate for it. But I didn't see any accommodation for that when when we saw the profile footage from the footage Candace had, she's had it forever. It was on X, but she showed it and she got in touch with the guy who took the photograph. I took the video. And to shoot over that lip, you would either have to lift the firearm over the lip, maybe like four or five inches off the deck or you'd have to hang the the barrel off the off the edge of the loci center. And in that footage, I saw no barrel hanging over the end. So if he if he's not up high enough to shoot over it and he's not hanging over it, how could that person have shot from that position? I think that's a live issue at trial. I really do. I think that video could come into play a trial. What happens if TR's exonerated? I'm seeing dug up and paved over SUV clean and sold body possibly cremated evidence limited. I don't know. I mean, they they never went looking for anybody else with Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman. They never went looking for anyone else with Kayleigh Anthony and they probably wouldn't go looking for anyone else with Charlie Kirk because that's the way criminal investigations go. I think this is our chance to investigate. Can TR hang from one hand off a roof as in video? I've climbed a few peaks and this is not easy. Hello from Texas. Xenia is my saint's name. I bless you. Oh, oh. Accused you've been from Ohio. I don't know that I could hang off that roof in that position swinging. And you know, supposedly he had a gun in one hand and everything else. You know, I mean, that's a lot of swinging going on. I don't know. Your biggest fan in Arlington, Virginia, Laura and the Mortician did a great episode, Charlie Kirk, Autopsy rumors explained. Thank you. Where's your wedding ring? I don't typically wear one. I do have one and when I travel, sometimes I'll wear it if I'm not going to be working out. Like today, the workout I did was 100 kettlebell swings for time at the beginning of the workout in every minute on the minute you had to do double unders. I can't do 100 kettlebell swings with a wedding ring. I'll tear my finger off. So, you know, I don't like taking it on and off all the time and I work out about every day. So I don't, I don't wear one. I also don't leave the house. So, you know, it's not like a statement to the public. Hang around here all day. Like if I ever leave the house, I go to the gas station. Sometimes the grocery store go to mess. It's about the only places I go. Sometimes Mrs. Coleman and I go out to eat. I don't really go anywhere else. I'm not paying the town red. If I haven't decided to, I'll put on a wedding ring just for you, just for you. Oh, I skipped one. Was he even Autopsy given the video of Erica kissing him in a casket? He's involved in that video, right? Meaning the Autopsy was done before. That would be the steps. Yeah, the Autopsy would have been done and then he would have been transported to a in a mortuary facility. Now, mortuary facility would have been bombed him, would have, oh, I'd got out of order, would have put the body back together, then would have been bombed him, then would have put the makeup on and put a suit on and and and then would have been presented. The Utah jury should certainly have reasonable data as the 30 out six. Maybe it'll be that simple. Always a great show. Thanks. Be wrong. Anyone who has fired a 30 out six will have doubt. They'll have doubt because if you've ever fired, well, that's a cannon. Particularly if you shot something else, like if you shot a 308 and a 300 blackout and a 30 out six, you like, you could blind taste test those three and you know which is which you, I mean, you'll know. Particularly if you're not wearing hearing protection. A.B. grade opening statement kind of puts to bed the idea that a large number of people can't keep a secret. I've never believed that the number of people involved has anything to do with secrets. I feel like our collective boat is about to hit the sound stage while like the Truman show. Christ is king truth will prevail. That's a good analogy. I hadn't considered that's a really good analogy. I kept thinking about this. T.R. asked for a specific lawyer at the police station and that lawyer retired a couple months later, and he chance he could have been paid off not six case. He was old. He had Oscar Liggins disease. That's what we call old in our house. Oh, L.D. Oscar Liggins disease. You don't want it. You don't want Oscar Liggins disease. Not for the week. Not for the week. Brian said he dropped his phone in the car and left it on while Supercannus would protect attorney client privilege with superior security team, right? He's prepped with prepped story with who had access. No, no, no, you're misunderstanding privilege there. That conversation wouldn't be privilege. You know, a conversation between Brian and his attorney would be privileged. Not a conversation between a security team. That's that's not privilege. What happened with the FBI calling doctor out of room? I don't know. I don't know. I just had a mosquito bite me 10 times. How do I know that it's one or more than one? Charlie was a top shelf shaker and mover. He actually made great things happen. Who else does that except maybe Trump? Charlie had it. Charlie certainly had it. Candace played a good clip tonight of Erica speaking at her most recent stop in Seattle. And it was a stark contrast between what Charlie Kirk used to do on stage, which would wow people, even people who didn't particularly care for Charlie acknowledged the extreme talent. And what we saw in that video was not extreme talent. At least don't follow the rules. They don't fear accountability. They never expected all of us. I agree. We agree. We have topic that I had a stuffed yeast roll from quences like a stuffed animal, but a yeast roll. I love that thing. A big fat yeast roll from quences was among the top dishes in the 1980s. Hard to beat that. You mentioned Erica being somewhere two weekends ago and STP to address it. First for you did never heard about that sense where she was. Yeah, I was waiting on a second confirmation to be honest with you. I had one confirmation. And I think it's right. But I know someone who could confirm it. And I'm waiting to hear back from that person. It would be interesting. No, if they found those bullet fragments before or after Tyler turned himself in. Great class today was worth putting my cap and gown on. They would have found the bullet fragments before Tyler turned himself in. And I lash going crazy over there. They would have found the bullet fragments before. And thank you. Thank you for the kind words. I think they underestimated how loved Charlie was. I do as well because they didn't. Not the same way. They certainly didn't love him the same way. Brian Harpole did the autopsy just like he directed the medical staff. I doubt it. I doubt it. There's a contradiction here. Okay. Let's discuss. If the murder was meant to be low key, a news coverage was a surprise. Why have JD fly in on Air Force one? Was Air Force two? And I think you could still do that and have the photo op in all that. I don't think they anticipated every major news organization breaking their coverage and covering it wall to wall without commercial interruptions. I just don't think they plan. I don't think they thought that was going to happen. Why is Charlie's nickname and Erica's court filing? Court docs are usually very formal and tend to use your official government name, not a nickname. If you had a court filing with Bill Clinton and you were like referring to Bill Clinton, you're called William Jefferson Clinton. He's belly, slick, Willie. I love you, my B. You are truly one of the good guys. Thank you. Do the haters and paid influencers on social media acts get more visibility and money if we comment on their posts. Yes, they do. If so, we should all ignore them. Yes, you should. Thank you for all your hard working long days. Thank you. Am I dreaming? Or did Candice say she saw the autopsy report soon after Charlie's passing? I have not heard that. But you'd have to check with her. I don't believe so. I don't think I've heard that was Charlie an organ owner could be possible. The autopsy had several people doing it. I don't think you can do an autopsy like that on an organ owner because you have so many hours that pass after the body's dead and you cool it and you heat it and you cool it and you heat it. I don't know. I'm not an expert in that. But I just, it's just what it seems to me. Maybe a partial exam because they saw how you died. That's kind of what I'm thinking. Like a half, give the old college try. Someone take someone Gary's brain tissue from paralyzed tactical. Oh, I don't know. What was on JD's agenda for the 11th before he was rerouted to Utah and Arizona. Anything. That's a good question. I don't know. I was switched to birth and my mom called out the nurse saying this isn't my child. After they told her she was wrong. She persisted. The head was too small and we're forced to find me. Wonder where I was though. Well, that's a wild story. I wonder how often that happens. You know, we don't let our kids leave the room. They don't go to the nursery for anything. And if they have to take them to the nursery, I go with them. We don't we don't do this nursery business. Everything's done in the room. Baby stays in the room, sleeps in the room when mom goes home, baby goes home. Baby, then baby doesn't leave the room. So no switch a root skis for our kids. No switch a root skis for our kids. That I'm no where you were. That's wild. It takes three to four weeks for toxicology and autopsy is alone. How did Amy have final report on 915? Most Utah cases have final reports done under 90 days. Oh, is that a jack fact? I did not know that. That's good intel. Good intel. Pick line got put into foreign and other firefighter I work with. It is hard also enough having a stroke because of it. I can confirm hitting the heart with a pick thing can't happen. Pick line can happen. I'm glad I didn't have a stroke. I don't think I did. Oh, I don't. I don't think there's anything wrong with the questions you posted last night. Keep going. Max Baron. Thank you for all you explained to us and the truth you always bring. Price is big indeed. I didn't I wouldn't try to be controversial with them. I was just trying to point out that you guys have created the conspiracy theory. It's your fault. If you don't want there to be conspiracy theories put a rest to it. You can. If someone says hey, were you somewhere else? No, I was here. Here's the evidence. I'm sorry. Is there anything else I can provide you? Here's my calendar. I wasn't there. If you don't want us thinking he was talking to people while I was standing at the top of the stairwell, show me the other minute footage that was erased. You want me to think he pulled a gun out of his pants? Show me and pull a gun out of his pants. Do you think if you want me to believe he screwed together a 30 out six on the roof? Show him screw in the gun together on the 30 out six on the roof. I'm not the cause of the conspiracy theories. What I'm pointing out is it's a personally perfectly rational response when things are being hidden from you to think the worst. What if you're a kid came home at 3 a.m. 16 years old. You say be home by 10 30. You go to the movies. Movie gets out of 10. Come home at 10 30. You can stop a Taco Bell on the way home but come straight home. And your son comes in at 3 a.m. You don't know where he's been. And he walks in and he's like, where were you? He's like, I don't tell you. I'm not telling you where I was. Where you vile creature. Well, do you think he was up like an all night adoration on his knees praying for the souls of the faithfully departed? No, probably not in that situation. Maybe, but probably not. And your mind's going to go to out party and drinking, corousing, you know, chasing women like your mind goes there. And that's a natural thing in the absence of evidence. So if you don't like the conspiracy theories, then answer some questions. These are normal questions. People who are buried, they tell you, yes, he was buried. Yes, he was cremated. It's not a big deal. Who cares? But if you refuse to answer the question, then it seems like something's being hidden because they're normal questions. Where were you when you found out the news? You should have a solid answer to that. Here's where I was. We heard you were somewhere else. That's not true. But if we say, well, we heard you were somewhere else and you say, and then the guy that you called and say, well, she here, they go, I can neither confirm nor deny she was here. Well, he can't confirm or deny you were there. Can you? I don't have to answer your questions. It's 3 a.m. son. Where you been? You better start answering questions. You're going to reveal where airco is. Yeah, eventually crisis king and deco max. Thank you. And the more the reason I believe the new Charlie was going to die is Vance. The new Charlie was going to die as Vance. Now, the snowball chance in hell, he would just show it three or four hours later without advance preparation. Oh, oh, oh, let me read the reason they knew Charlie was going to die as Vance. It's a little unusual to me. If we're being honest, that you would fly a vice president into an airport that had not been cleared. And it was announced he was coming. That's unusual to me. But bear on your opening last week, my daddy died with pancreatic cancer, blood clot sepsis, but for eight sibs, too. My daddy lived his faith, but I was not ready. Reef is torture. Crisis king indeed love you be. I love you too. Sorry to hear about that. Perhaps they had paperwork ready to go. Crisis king indeed. Yeah, I hope not. Was Lance twigs the first one to the DA's office for the deal. How would we know? It's a good question. Most days, they average about 10, which without complications takes about an hour each. That's right article on Utah Medical Examiner 11, 2025. An hour long autopsy, I don't believe that I just I refuse to do that, especially on a homicide victim. Hey, B, did they go to surgery entrance rather than the ER entrance? Also, I'm going back to your earlier shows and wow, wow. yeah, imagine that. I wish everybody would. Go back and watch the earlier shows too. You know, days were off. Go watch another show. Go watch an earlier show. I don't know which entrance they went to. There was that one video we played it or part of it because you start cussing so much it turned it off. But that guy claimed to be an eyewitness and claimed they went to the surgery entrance and not the emergency room entrance, but I don't know. I wasn't there. And they stole the camera footage. So we can't know. With all new respect, no one's ever going to pay for this tragedy. Just how it goes. They've submitted their case. Everyone else need not worry. But what if what if new evidence comes out that directly contradicts what they told us? Like that's that's where I think they may get hammed up. Um, or hemmed up jammed up. I think I combine the words there. That's where I think they might get jammed up. If if if they told us x, y, and z happened in that order. And then for whatever reason, new evidence comes out and it's z, y, x, man, that's critical distinction. And they knew it. So you'd have to ask why do they lie about it? Well, the only reason they would lie is if they cover something up, right? Uh, moon goddess. Hello, I'm a daughter. Ask me to update you on how she's doing. She's heavily sedated. She wanted to say, thank you. She's fine. She loves y'all. Thank you. Oh gosh, moon goddess's daughter. Thank you. That's very kind of you. Thanks for the update. Tell her to do a PT when she gets better. Are they all on vacation? Or are they seeing how this thing is going down? Perhaps decided to go on the lamb. Just kidding. I think, uh, no, I don't think they're on the run. I think they, um, I think they had plans. They had plans. I think Eric was on vacation. I think uh, Andrew has plans. I clipped the low sea center footage. Mid-assassination. Our suspect set a romantic picnic for his lover with an impressive charcuterie board, including 33 varieties of cheese. We value the privacy of our patsy. I mean suspect. Yes. How do we know, Rosalie that that didn't happen? How do we know he was the only one on the roof? You're just, we're just taking it at face value. What if there were two people up there? What if they come out with the whole footage and it becomes obvious? There's a second person on the roof. Imagine that. Imagine that. And they're waving at each other and they're, you know what I mean? Imagine that. That there's two people. I, but Baron, why are you suggesting there's two? I'm not suggesting there is. Baron Coleman said there were two people in the room. No, he didn't. No, he didn't. What he said was, imagine if that happened. How devastating that would be to their case. The case would be over because they would have known it and they would have lied about it. That was the point I was making last night. We don't know what happened. And what if, what if, what if he gets up there and he's on the phone and he's doing this and he's telling someone to move over? Am I suggesting I know that to be the case? No, not at all. But what if that happened? What if that's what was clipped out? How would it have changed your opinion? If you knew they knew that happened and they didn't tell you about it, how would it change your opinion of the Fed slot narrative? If your officer Tater-Tot or your agent Poso or your Benny boy, are you still going to come out and say mountain evidence, mountains? No, you look foolish. You look foolish. And that's my point. If when they whole video comes out of trial, if there's anything at all that's different from what we've been told for a year, year and a half, two years, you'll have a feeling that you're not going to see video to trial. And I hope the defense team forces the whole video to come out. But what if the video comes out and it's not what we've been told? Well, the jury won't know we've been lied to the whole time. Because they're going to pick 12 people who haven't heard about it. And so they're not going to have the shock value that the whole public has. But you and I will be stunned. Stunned. If they release video from the parking garage and he's standing up there in a car rolls up and rolls down the window and hands him something. And that's when he like sits there and then they pick it back up and that's the video footage we see. And he sits there and he puts his phone back in his pocket and walks off. What if that happened? How would it change your opinion of the case? And as long as there's all this clip footage, I don't see how any fed slot person can run out there and say, I'm confident Tyler Robinson did it. And I'm confident he was working alone and I'm confident. He was, you had a 30 out six on the Losis Center. If you can't know that because the videos all chopped up, that was my point. That was my point. Not that he jumped in a car and went to the library, but that he could have jumped in a car and went to the library. And we don't know because they stopped the video. That's my point. That's my point. Dan, we request records regarding when JDN Secret Service plan to go to Utah. They had to know something before the CK hit keep going. Actually, yeah, I think you probably could. That's probably a really good, well, maybe. I don't know if they'll tell you the movements of the president or vice president. But it's worth a shot. My mom got mercy in her brain after surgery from NAMURIZ and made her lose her mind. She pulled out her pick line four or five times. It was awful. Your heart is big enough. Conspiracy of small piece. Oh, thank you. Thank you. I hate to hear that about your mom. No, she made a complete recovery. I was shopping for new dishes online the other night. And when I read bone China, all I could think of is the way you say, "Bonjina!" You were shopping for bone China. I made me laugh. Candace got them UFC fighting braids. Oh, man. Soon as her podcast came on and I saw those braids. Like it was doing the countdown thing. It was like, you know, when it like floats her name around. And all of a sudden it popped up. She's like, "All right, you guys." And I was like, "Braids, they're cooked. These guys are toast. They don't know it yet, but it's good about to get really ugly. I feel bad for these people. I started having a heart. Diarrhea COVID-26 was bad in Northwest Ohio and Southeast Michigan. See, I told you, upper Midwest. I told you, wait a minute, Northwest Ohio. That's Toledo. How can you tell? I kid. I kid people. I have family in Toledo. Baron you cray. Ha ha. Disregard of the jury's already told you, but that was not just a clot on the end of your pick line. Pretty typical. Sorry, the nurse freaked you out. Definitely not a piece of your heart. Oh, raise the Lord. Glory. Hallelujah. I'll take your word for it, Rosie, because I don't want to know the other. I'll just assume that's true. But the other guy told me, and now what was causing the jolt, though? Well, that was clearly the heart. I've been regularly checking your friends. Go fund me. And it's up to almost 315. Wow. Oh, I did not. I haven't checked it in day. Maybe two weeks, week or two. So incredibly proud of this high q outfit and so excited for your birthday member show. Love you, might be, oh, is your birthday tomorrow? Happy birthday, Dev. 1 7 R 3 X. If that is your birthday, forgive me that I was skeptical about today's show based on the title, but you did not disappoint people at the excellent work, bear in team. You had you had doubts. You doubted your home was. Get that off him equals Frank Turek doing CPR. I doubt it. I doubt it. Maybe a carving knife. I kid. I kid. I kid. I kid. That's a joke going back to the old Benjamin joke. I think it was a joke. I just knew you were going to show up and read braids tonight. Alas. And this is bringing it this week. Sounds like it. Sounds like it. No, I don't have braids. I can't. I can't. I guess I could. I mean, you could braid that. Maybe I'll go in for some corn roads. You know, it's the best I can do. I can't have the little like biking braids. What's that girl's name that had the braids pippy long stocking? Those are braids, right? Best empirical evidence, the LGBT community has religiously boycotted Chick-fil-A since 2012. There's no way I'll lead LGBT extremists willing to murder for his beliefs. What do you get Chick-fil-A on his way to assassinate his nemesis? Not take your word for it. I always like at the beginning of the broadcast. I have yet to ever want to take my like back. Oh, 100%. Yeah, you saying you always hit the like button. Please, by all means, if you have not yet hit the like button, that's a good opportunity. That's a good opportunity. God bless you. Oh, my be my bee. Thank you. Thank you. God bless you, too. I'm sorry. I didn't know that. Oh, guess I'm some speckles there or something. How come when I Google Hasbury no longer use me the meaning but references Hamas also try Aqua Panna water and glass bottles thank me later. Let me try this Hasbury. I have Googled and I did not get anything about Hamas. I don't know. I don't know why your Google's that way. Mine is not mine is not. Did we ever figure out why or how Blake was qualified to work for the war college when he is a writer? not enough schemes to be spoken about this. I hadn't put my thought into it. Not a fair portion of my time has taken up thinking of Blake Sniff. Brigadier General Blaine Holt and maybe CEO Rob O'Neill speaking out is a game-changer. In my opinion, thank you for all you do. Charlie was special. Yeah, I don't know why that's making the rounds now. That was like 90 days ago. They did that show, but it is making the rounds again, for sure. Please pray for me, my cousin's 17-year-old son. I recently found out he was in a youth shelter after her passing at a lot of trauma. And I'm picking him up, taking him to the boys' ranch tomorrow. I will do that. Oh gosh, I cannot imagine. You know, kind of the there but for the grace of God, go I kind of thing, right? We really take advantage and we really take for granted, I guess, is a better way to say it. The circumstances into which we were born. You know, there are people who were born were told and live their entire life and die in a prison camp in North Korea. And they don't sit around and watch podcasts. They don't get up in the morning, go to work. They don't find the love of their life and try to start a family. They don't they don't ever know the feeling of sitting in a new to you car. You know, when you get that car for the first time, they could have 185,000 miles on it, but it's new to you and it feels great. Looks good, drives good, drives well. And it's it's it's it's hard because we we have these little trite Bible verses that God works everything out for those who love him and whatever Romans 8. And for a lot of people, they're just born into horrific circumstances. I mean, just utter destitute provoked poverty in a village in Bangladesh. They're born into a refugee camp in Sudan and that's their life. That's all they know. I mean, kids are pretty adaptable. You know, very young kids who are poor don't know the poor until they're told and they realize it. But by the time you 17, you know it. By the time you 17, you look around and realize you're having a pretty bad go of it and I feel bad for that kid. I'll pray for you. It was a custodian records for a 9/11 dispatch center for years. The physical record of any call cannot be removed. Warm. It would take a custodian intentionally saying it doesn't exist. I think that's I think that's what she's saying is extraordinary measures may have been taken to to hide that call. Google trends search for microphone explosive. I believe that. I don't know what this means. Merch for R.B.P. I don't know what that means. Oh, I don't know what that means. No, I do know what that means. I do say that a lot, but I don't want to lie to you if I don't know what that means. I'm not going to sit here and make it up. Baron. He must got it. God. He most static. God's in your Gmail. Picks of burned looking material. I believe you. I'll check it out. I have no reason to doubt you. Petroleum soaked gauze for electrical shock. Comes in foil packet, floor of SUV. I'll have to go back and look at those pictures. I believe all of you. I'm not doubting any of you, but I have to go back and look at it. Get that off of him. Patch on his right chest before rival to ER. Yeah, I'm starting to wonder if he has some sort of power supply under his like tape to his body. You know what I mean? And I don't know what it would have been powering, but maybe Charlie is at Alcourt Life Extension Foundation in Scottsdale, Arizona, Crayonac Preservation. Yeah, I think in those situations, I've looked into that. I think in the situation of the Crayonac Preservation, everything has to move really fast. It ideally works best when your death is sort of planned and you know you're about to die and you sort of go and you've got the team on hand and as soon as they call you, they start, they jump into action and they take care of everything because the cells start the death process immediately. Immediately. So you've got to immediately cool the body. You've got to immediately do this. We know that didn't happen to Charlie. So I'm skeptical of that. Or we're told that didn't happen. What percentage of attorneys general like Pambondi? Do you think are corrupt and working with secret clubs? Do you think a bullet went through Trump's ear? Trump using fake news? Expose Smith Month. At first questions tough. I'm sure there have been honest attorneys general that just are there for the right reasons, but I keep in mind with the appointment process. This goes for Supreme Court justices district court, circuit court judges at the federal bench. All what hundreds probably of federal appointments that have to be confirmed by the Senate. You got to be confirmed by the Senate. So you already have to be accepted by the club or you can't have the job. It's one of the major problems with the Supreme Court. They're never going to take Article 1, Section 8 and apply it back to its original foundational structure that I think it was supposed to be in the commerce clause because doing so will basically destroy the ability of the federal government to do anything. It would so neuter the federal government of the Supreme Court would ever reverse that interpretation that broad commerce clause power. And then do away with completely the dormant commerce clause power. So I think you're asking for a judge to somehow get confirmed that believes that the commerce clause should be just completely shredded back to what it originally was intended to be. And you got to get that through a Senate who all of its power comes from a very expansive view of the commerce clause. So that's that's that problem that exists with federal judges also exists with federal appointments like the attorney general. So if you had someone who is on the record and known to want to greatly limit the power of the federal investigative branch, they're not going to get in. They're not going to get in. And so that's that's kind of my my issue there. Oh, you had a second question. Do I think a bullet hit Trump's here? I do, but I don't think it went through the cartilage. I think it just nicked the skin. But I don't know. I don't know for sure. I'm not 100% sure on that. I'm glad you're good. Oh, thank you. Me too. Nurse drop ball in proper placement of central line. Can lead to cardiac. Tampinade. Isn't that a sandwich? Tampinade. Isn't that a like an olive relish? Tampinade. Tampinade. Tampinade. What's that stuff called? It's an olive relish. Tampinade, where condition where fluid builds in pericardial space compresses heart and impaired function. Well, hope that didn't happen. How can I get checked for that one easy cardiologist? That was darn near 20 years ago. It's obvious they didn't follow the law. Workers were in awe of the notoriety of CK and JD and the goons came in and ordered what else was happening. They lie so much too hard to keep thoughts focused. I think the involvement of JD Vance complicated and honest investigation. And that's not to say JD Vance did that on purpose. Whether he did or not is unknown, but me saying that is not me suggesting that. Me saying that is just recognizing reality. And once the vice president says, I'm going to pick him up and I'm on my way. Everything gets rushed. Everything gets hurried. Everything's done abnormally. Edge pathology is my favorite class of stories like yours are why most hilarious were the radiological images of foreign objects and men. Never having MRI while storing a backdoor guest just said, "Oh, a badge." Up, down, stupiders, ex-post pray for Candace info inside info. If you're asking my opinion on stupiders, he's fine. I don't dislike stupiders. You know, I hate that in this world. You have to say, I don't agree with everything you said. I like Tucker Carlson. I don't agree with everything you said. I like Joe Rogan. Everybody has to say that. But I like him fine. I don't know what the ex-post is. You're saying he made an ex-post? He's probably just saying Candace is about to bring the thunder. But I don't know. Edge, you tell us about these meetings. So then tell us about those meetings. Well, if it's about work, fill us in. I can't disclose all of them, but this one I can, but it's got to happen first. So I'll tell you about it next week, maybe, maybe two weeks. Sometimes when you meet with somebody. If you're meeting with somebody who, somebody above that person could prevent that meeting. And so if I tell you about the meeting, then the person above can stop the meeting from happening. So I can't tell you ahead of time what's gonna happen. I don't want that to happen. I want to talk to that. I want to have this meeting. And sometimes after the meeting, I can't tell you about it because the person above them would know they talked to me. I can't do that either. Let's just say this. Like say Mikey McCoy was coming into town, right? He's not, he's not. But let's say that's what's happened. If I come out and tell you now, Hey, I'm meeting with Mikey McCoy Friday. Do you think that meeting's gonna happen? No. No. If I tell you after the fact, Ah, I guess it was in my house yesterday. Mikey McCoy. We had a nice sit down. Here's what we talked about. Do you think that's gonna end well for him? No. So sometimes I can't tell you. This one Friday I can't tell you about, but it's gotta happen first so that the kabosh doesn't come down. That makes sense. Let's see, not buried in sacred ground, no cemetery. No ambulance, no autopsy. Why would anyone be suspicious? All right, there might have been an autopsy. Might have been rushed, but there might have been one. Uh, Google says it takes, and doing the thing again. All right, Google says it takes two to four hours to embalm a man. Autops your trauma, can extend the process four to five hours due to extra reconstruction and stitching. I believe that clip of a K in your email with the subject's sundress supremacy super chat. Dougie, Dougie. I'll check that out after the show. See my pre-show super chat. It was second in line. I'll have to read it afterwards. Anything sent, I'll say this. Anything sent before the show start is bound to get kicked by the system. And so I know people like to get in early and leave super chats. I do read them. I read everything after the show that I missed. I don't try to miss any during the show if I can avoid it. Sometimes I do by mistake. And if at the end I have to start skipping around for time then sometimes I miss those. I go back and read them all. And I do notice, usually there's one or two at the beginning that made it in before I started reading. But I can't go back now because it's something in the back end of Google and I can't do it while we're on here. I mean, I can, but it's a huge pain in the butt. But I won't go back and read it. It'll do a good chance there. Do you could have repeated it? Edge, and who said it? If Frank Turk said it being uninformed about the goal he may have seen something he shouldn't have. Oh, I see what you're saying. Who said it may be more important than what was said. Get that off there, maybe that equals Frank Turk as he starts yanking and banking. Oh, maybe. I believe the body in the casket was not CK. Well, I show that much, but not his face. Services for a 42 year old man were at the funeral home on 9/12. Maybe his family would recognize the suit or tie. Well, they wouldn't recognize the suit or tie 'cause I know where the suit or tie came from. But I'm gonna have to suspect where it came from. That's interesting. I wonder if he had damaged hands 'cause that casket, that picture she showed the hands were damaged. PSA, RBP can be driving hazard. Was so attuned to your opening statement didn't notice the speed limit. When cops stopped me, I pulled a baron. Not typical baron. We all think I'll put my hands 10 and 2 and said, "Gelty, it worked." Now for no ticket, just for the morning. I'm telling you guys, there's something to it. Now you can't all go doing it 'cause all the cops will pick up on it. But if a few of you do it here and there, it'll work out for you. It worked out for me. That's awesome. Thank you for that follow up, Candy Land. Brian Harpel dropped his phone when on top of Charlie, SUV didn't retrieve it, he phoned 9/11, 911. We don't know whose phone it was. I don't know whose phone it was. God bless you. Not go be yourself. Well, either one works for me. We love watching you until just end laughter, all wrapped in one show. Oh, thank you. I'm very kind of you. Very kind. Thomas Crook's AutoCreck was cremated quickly. That is the rumor. That is the rumor. My B, I feel like you would like Lauren the Mortician. She answers all more of it in strange questions about death. Also comment on CK in the beginning. Also, GBY, God bless you. Christ is King and D, thank you, thank you. My hospital all deaths are bag and tag with RTLS chip, real-time locate system, a special tag that tracks location of bodies in real time, like an air tag. Server records each detected location and timestamp. Defense should request. I hope they do. The media should request. I don't know what would be inappropriate about location data. I've always identified medical gauze tape of some brand. That's my call too. I don't see a battery. Okay, I believe you for super chat. Oh, let's hear it. LMO, Lemmo. Been here since the very beginning. So grateful we have each other. When the world tells us we are crazy. Happy to have each other. I'm happy to have you too, Lemmo. If that is your real name, thank you for that. Sweet bee, 45 days sober for hubby. Oh, man, that makes me so happy. I'm sure why I'm bothered by Megan Kelly, like disregard for wanting truth for CK, your high IQ. Can you give her your reason why? Megan Kelly use all keywords as evil media. Price is thingity. I answered it on redacted, I think. We can't remember what interview. I remember somebody asking me this. I can think of two reasons why she would be kind of a fed sloper on this. Number one is she doesn't pay much attention. She covers a lot of news. Like she doesn't just do Charlie Kirk. She doesn't just do true crimes. She doesn't just do policy. She covers a lot. So it could be that that she just doesn't cover a lot, doesn't pay close attention. And when it comes to the facts, she just sort of hears the headlines and sort of believes what the headlines say. So that's option A. Option B. It's a little more of a dishonest option. And I'm not attributing this to her. I'm just giving it as an option. Megan's been through a lot. Megan's been threatened. She's been called names. She's been pushed to the side. They make fun of her. She's out here trying to make a living like everyone else. And I would hate for this to be true, but it's possible. I'm not suggesting it's true, but it's possible that some people might tailor their coverage of this case in order to stay in the good graces of the people that kind of make the conservative world go round. Obviously your humble host has chosen not to participate in that. Candace, obviously, is not as well. Ian Carroll, obviously, is not as well. And many, many others. I don't want to sit here and name people. I'll forgive people, but there've been a lot of people who have chosen a path of just, hey, I'm going to tell you how I see it. And we'll see what happens. And if you kick me out of the conservative cause. So what? That's kind of my thought on one of those two. That city was content. All right, I'll try it. Makwanago, Makwanago, Makwanago. All right, I'll allow it. Sir, King, sir, autopsies are fascinating as long as they're fresh. Oh, I'm not going to answer that. Best empirical evidence. The LGBT community is religious, wait, I read that. I already did that one. I get it. I mean, I understand what you're saying. My B, yes, shy, my shy. I retract my first super chat. I finally caught up. I'm always going to support you. Much love and many blessings to you and your family. Much love and many blessings to you, dear shy. Much love and many blessings to you. Today's opening was just sadness personified. How are we supposed to be humane? How are how we as a supposed humane society can do this to others is abominable. How can we justify it? It is the savagery that Western enemies are accused of. Yeah, you know what's funny? This is not a joke. I was listening to a preacher, a preacher. And he was talking about the war overseas in Iran. And in one breath, he said, we have to go defeat Iran or Jesus won't come back. And I've heard that before. I've heard people say that. He says, if we don't go defeat Iran, and we don't make Israel safe, Jesus isn't going to come back. I've heard that before. No, I think he's bad theology, but I'll grant it. I'll allow you. What else are you going to tell me? And like nine minutes later. Or not, I didn't watch it for nine minutes. Like three minutes later, he said, you know those people in Iran, they're a death cult. They believe by fighting this war against the Jews, their e-moms are going to come back. Then we can't have that. That's not rational. Bruh, hit rewind. Go back like three and a half minutes. You're making the same argument. (laughs) I couldn't believe he said it. He said it was a straight face too. With music in the background. A hot darn, man. Both of you in Kansas were on fire tonight. Love you for all. You are my bee. May I say you are irreplaceable. You're such a blessing and a gift to this investigation. Thank you, thank you. I appreciate it. It's very kind. Thank you. My husband and I look forward to sitting together watching nightly. I was wondering if you could enable closed captioning on your videos, hearing loss makes it hard to keep up without them. Thanks. That's a YouTube thing. I enable it. I have it. But. But the YouTube closed captioning only sends out the closed captioning after the video processes. And that takes several hours. So if you come back tomorrow and watch it, they'll be closed captioning. Not always the most accurate, but it exists. The alternative would be to me to pay someone to close caption at live. And if you price that out, you'll realize it's not affordable. It's a extremely expensive, like four figures per show, and I just can't do that. You know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's costly. It's costly. And it's paying the butt and they get, you know, it has its own problems. So I, I'm kind of in a, I'm trying to rock in a hard place on that. I will say this. I wear hearing aids. I don't have them in the room with me. They're in my bedroom, but, um, and I, I get it. Like I, I have trouble watching movies and television. I understand it. That's just the reality where we are. If any of the maroon boys come forward, uh, not that I've heard of, not that I've heard of, uh, EK doesn't believe in coincidences, but why so many? I don't know. Tina Maples, you tell me none of the laws and rules apply. It was all controlled from the deep state game over. Oh, we got jewel things going on. Uh, I am wondering if Erica had Charlie buried as a Jew would definitely explain the rushed timelines as they have to be buried within 24 hours. Uh, not, I don't think so because he was very much not buried by September 19th or 20th, whatever date they had the service at the funeral home there. Um, I'm pretty sure that they represented that a body was present. Now, whether or not they, that's true, I don't know. This is a good question. In law, is a mortician, what questions do you need answered? Uh, I can't think of any of these answers. I'll talk to you of Jane Doe's a great scary movie better than the fairies. Oh, the fairies was good. I don't recommend anyone who likes scary movies. I don't like scary movies. Also did bear and mention the burn pick on CK's body post on the next. I'm late to chat. Do you mean tonight? No, I didn't mention it tonight. I'm dead to the show. I don't know why back. Uh, Charlie's alive. I'm completely convinced. I am not. I'm not convinced. Twenty years plus or minus since 1940, there's been a never forget where you were a moment. Pearl Harbor, JFK, Lenin 9/11, Charlie. What does each seem like a conspiracy? Christ is King. God bless you and Daisy. God bless you. Hey, uh, here's why because they are. I believe every one of those is a conspiracy. All of them, even Lenin, look into that one. That's even weirder than some of the others. That's why it seems that way. My wife got really angry not too long ago and she was like, look, everything's fake. Everything we've ever been told is a lie. I'm like, yes, you're coming around. Come on. Water's warm. Swim around. Feeling really sad for Charlie and ever felt it to this extreme loving wife friend would never dismiss finding out everything. Not human. I'm concerned by the lack of curiosity from his team that they involve someone scheduled for cremation. Uh, I don't know. I don't know. I think the reason they did this publicly was to give everyone at T. P. S. A. in alibi. Maybe I work in organ donation, giving how CK died, not a donor. You need to be brain dead or patient would to be removed from life support given the timeline is no way he has a tissue donor either, or he was a tissue donor either. That was my gut. But thanks for confirming that or clarifying. There are vacation, hmm. I would say in my opinion, allegedly it's more likely they're going to meet with the end to get more money at the White House, allegedly, allegedly also keep it, also keep it up. Oh, I always keep it up. I can sometimes I don't. But no, we're always researching, always moving, always shaking, always trying, always going. Some hospitals have autopsy rooms, maybe the medical examiner went there to do it there. And the motorcade was just a distraction, so it looked like he already left and people didn't wait around for him. That's interesting. I hadn't even considered such a possibility. Is that legal in Utah? Is that how they do it in Utah? I don't know. That's a good one. Biggest fan from Fort Wayne, Indiana, home of the Maddance, first time super chatter. Former legal nurse consultant, nurse paralegal, now FNP a lot going on there at autopsy body fluids are obtained such as vitreous humor and others analysis takes at least a couple. All right. I believe you, I believe you. God bless you for using your given talent, Stanford truth became a member tonight. I've been in this high IQ jury box the whole time. Well, welcome in, welcome in, welcome in, America, USA is now an active domain. No, surely not. You're telling a tale. If you remember nesters at the autopsy was with hell because of personal health conditions documented. I don't recall that. I have to go back and look at that did live 360 call 911 for Charlie set off by the Mike exploding or the fall was his phone in his pocket. The fall could have called 911, right? I didn't think about that. Some sort of concussive incident would have could have let me look at that. What can cause what we, what do we think in an iPhone guy, right? Not a Samsung guy. What could cause an iPhone to call 911 automatic? Crash detection emergency SOS trigger or accidental physical jolts jolts. You may have just figured something out. What if it was Charlie's phone calling 911 and it was the jolt that triggered it. Do we know if he had his phone? We need to look at those pictures closely of him walking up and getting mic'd up and all that. Did he have his phone in his pocket? So for superchanges want to say I work with attorneys every day and you're stellar Baron. Thank you and your family for your dedication. Thank you. Crystal Russell. I don't know about stellar, but I try my best and try my best. Look at how you toss handling reckless Ben case. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. There was a retired firefighter in Kansas comments who said the car heart shirt could be a flame retardant type. They use the firehouse makes sense with burnt fabric. Try one out. But they make a flame retardant or fire retardant t-shirt that would be a pretty wild selection of t-shirt to put freedom on for that occasion. I literally bought the domain America USA and made a spoof website. Oh, while this episode was on you are something. That's wild. That's what good work. Stu was on X at eight Eastern he asked for the entire country to be in deeper ever can us because he has found out things last 24 hours regarding doge that Charlie requested had to know where came in. Oh, oh. Was she in danger? Is that what he's suggesting? No autopsy. How did they retrieve bullet fragments? Well, they might have done autopsy. I'm just I'm suggesting, let me just be clear here. I'm suggesting they probably did a half-hearted attempted an autopsy and it was it was based on the fact that they originally intended not to do an autopsy and then kind of felt compelled to do an autopsy at a certain point. That's kind of my current line of thinking. I think that original original initial police radio call that there wasn't going to be an autopsy was accurate. And then as the news kind of got away from them, I think they thought, okay, we probably need to do an autopsy here. That's that's where I look at it. Guys, I want to appreciate you joining me again. If you're going to be here tomorrow, it will be a member show. I don't know what time yet. We usually try to do them earlier. So I would anticipate it would be one wish, one wish to us somewhere in there. But I don't know for sure whether we come back at night and do a full member a full regular show. I think determined is going to be determined by how the day progresses. What kind of news breaks? It sounds like it's going to be a newsy week on the Candace podcast. And it may be that we need to come out and do a show just sort of a reaction show to whatever she comes up with. So we'll see how tomorrow goes. But right now I know we will do a member show because I know I cannot be on the air Friday. All right. I could, but it would be late and it would be, I'm not going to do a show Friday, I'm not going to do that. So we'll do a member show tomorrow. And then Wednesday and Thursday we'll be back for our regular shows. Hope everyone has a wonderful night. Listen. Listen. Jesus loves you. I know and you might get numb to that you guys might be one of those people who say We hear it every night. We know what you're gonna say But it's you still need to hear it. You hear it from your kids, too, but you need to hear it You say it to your kids, but they need to hear And you need to hear it. Jesus loves you guys have a wonderful night. I will see you tomorrow

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The case surrounding Charlie Kirk's death raises serious questions about the body's disposition, as no physical body has been publicly seen or verified, despite claims of a funeral and burial.
  2. Legal requirements in Utah mandate that a body must be preserved, cooled, and documented during autopsy and transport, including timestamps, custody logs, and medical records—records that are currently missing or unshared.
  3. The rapid handling of the body—within hours of death—contradicts standard procedures, especially given the warm body temperature reported when first seen, and raises concerns about potential suppression of evidence or rushed disposal.

Summary:

The investigation into Charlie Kirk’s death reveals a deeply suspicious lack of transparency regarding the body’s handling. Despite claims of a formal autopsy and funeral, no actual body has been shown, and no photographs, medical records, or official disposition records have been made publicly accessible. The case is further complicated by Utah’s legal framework, which requires strict documentation of body transport, storage, and autopsy procedures—including timing, temperature control, and chain-of-custody logs—all of which are missing or unverified.

The timeline appears implausibly fast: the body reportedly arrived at the medical examiner’s office late on September 10th, yet the autopsy was allegedly completed within hours, with no evidence of cooling or proper preservation. This raises concerns that the body may have been disposed of prematurely, possibly to avoid scrutiny. A major point of contention is the absence of an official autopsy report, with only a summary of "gunshot wound" and "homicide" being presented.

The report failed to include critical details such as the time of arrival, body temperature, presence of bullet fragments, or room occupants—key elements in a capital homicide case. The case also highlights broader issues of transparency, as evidence such as the autopsy video was never fully disclosed to the public, fueling speculation and conspiracy theories. Advocates, including Erica Kirk, argue that all evidence must be openly available to prevent public distrust and ensure a fair trial.

The narrative is further undermined by inconsistencies in witness accounts, such as Brian Harpole’s dramatic claims of heroic actions during transport and the autopsy, which contradict medical professional reports and appear to be self-promotional. Ultimately, the central mystery remains: where is Charlie Kirk’s body now? With no verifiable records, no public burial, and no accessible autopsy, the case appears to lack foundational evidence, suggesting either a cover-up or a systemic failure in accountability.

This raises urgent questions about whether the investigation was properly conducted or manipulated to protect an outcome.

FAQs

There is controversy because no official autopsy report has been made public, and key details like the time of arrival, body temperature, and evidence of a gunshot wound are missing. The absence of a full, transparent report raises questions about whether the autopsy was conducted properly or at all.

In Utah, a disposition permit is required to transport or bury a body. The medical examiner must preserve the body until investigation is complete. If a criminal investigation is ongoing, the body must be held for at least 24 hours after arrival to allow for autopsy and investigation.

The body arrived at the medical examiner's office in Taylor'sville around 8:30 PM on September 10th. The autopsy was reportedly completed by midnight, suggesting a very rapid timeline that raises concerns about procedural compliance.

There is no public record of the body's transport, custody transfer, or cold storage. Critical logs like timestamped transport records, body intake logs, and custody transfer documents are missing, making it difficult to verify the body's whereabouts or handling.

All records including autopsy reports, body intake logs, custody transfer logs, cold storage logs, and x-ray or imaging reports should be available. These documents are essential to verify the timeline, conditions, and proper handling of the body.

Without a complete autopsy report, key details like the time of death, bullet fragments, or body temperature at autopsy are unknown. This lack of evidence allows speculation that the autopsy was rushed, incomplete, or never performed.

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