"To Be Memed" (w/ Mindy Kaling)

This is an "I Heart" podcast, guaranteed human. On the new podcast, Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus, or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I choose option B. I'm Julie Pignero, and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word Solita, trading the pity for possibility. Listen to Solita, on the "I Heart" radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Munga Shategeler, and I'm back with a new season of my podcast Skyline Drive. This time I talk to scientists, biopunks, curmudgians, blues owners, super seniors, and go as top cryotherapy lab to try to understand this obsession with living forever, and what it means for all of us. And I get into a bit of trouble along the way. I'd say probably start bone smashing. That doesn't work. Make you look more defined. They say it works. I don't know. Listen to Skyline Drive, how to live forever on the "I Heart" radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. If your bookshelf and your four-year page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. Pro Society is a weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for anyone who thinks pride and prejudice and love island deserve the same level of discourse. Each week, we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and pop culture. With your favorite writers, book talk creators, and plenty of overthought opinions. Yeah, Munga Shategeler, so Munga Shategeler, listen to Pro Society on the "I Heart" radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Look, man. Oh, I see. Am I online? Oh, look over there. How is that culture? Yes. Yes. Wow. That's culture, it's that. Ding dong dong! Loss culture, it's calling. There's a couple items of business to get to before we bring in our iconic guest. One, Fraser is here watching. Hey, Fraser, Ole under, Ole under. He's here. This is his first episode of Loss culture's a spectator because his favorite human being is in the room. It's huge. It happens to be the guest, actually. Yeah, actually happens. And what do you mean? There's no people in the room. I'm S-O-L with my own man. I don't stand a chance against our guest, but that's fine. That's fine. I do occur, too. Other orders of business, you can watch or stream the Loss culture, racist culture words tonight. Tonight, as of this episode, airing. Our other thing is airing, and oh, wow, I'm really, gosh, I have been more suspicious. Let's go down with your body. Why do you touch or touch like that? I'm touching my chest like this. I always get worried. The veil is really thin right now. I feel really genuinely star-struck and nervous around our guests recently. Today is really no exception. Can I say, we feel Fraser and I have been preparing for the episode. And I said, so he says, "The Mindy Project is my favorite show. I play it on repeat all the time." He says, "He's watched the entire series at least five or six times." It's at least, it has the patina of like a cheer now where it's like, "Oh, yeah, that's your comfort watch." Do you watch the episode where Casey Wilson fucks like Baron Holtz? Really good stuff, I just love when good people get together and pretend to fuck on television. And that's a real culture number eight. I just love when good people get together and pretend to fuck on television. And so that was a wonderful and joyous time, sort of reconnecting with that show. And guess what? There's a brand new one out, not suitable for work. You can stream most of it right now and the last two episodes are going to come out next week because today is June 17th, the day of the culture awards. Lots to stream out there. Running point. Oh, by the way, these are all stuff that our guest has created. It's a god damn bonafide mogul to say nothing of never have I ever, sex lives of college girls. Our guest is famously Kelly Kapoor from the office. And just let's have a moment for that, let's have a moment for that and let's have a moment to welcome. Hey, that was the best two-and-a-half minutes of my life. And it was two-and-a-half minutes. I think we didn't even really get out of that. It was I'm so touched. Why? And mostly because freezers here. Yeah. Okay. I was pretty sure you would know who he was. Yes. And we were talking about him because my whole writers are in both of my writers. Rims were so excited and jealous that I was coming here today. And we were, we were looking. Okay. I can I talk about the photos of you guys? You can talk about it. Or is it not? That's not a spoiler. People know that we were on a carpet together. Okay. The Marshalls blue carpet. Is it okay? Because it doesn't come out to later. Okay. Yeah. And the photos are out. The photos are out. Yeah. The photos are out. The photos are out. So we were talking about the photos of you guys on the carpet and what a handsome couple you are. Thank you. It's younger, jenzy females as I'm sure are obsessed with him and his physique. Yeah. Yeah. Especially. And then love talking about the show. And then so I'm, I'm really honored that you love because the Minty Project is like kind of a deep cut. You think? I think so. It's your name in it. I know, but I think that it's sort of, you know, is never like a big hit when it came out or anything, but the people who liked it, liked it and they sometimes turn up. So thank you. Thank you. But is there that kind of what you want? Of course, everyone wants everything to be huge, but ultimately what you want is for people that get it to really get it and it's like truly important to them. Well, I have a theory that you have to be somebody's favorite. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, even if that's a small group, you have to be somebody's favorite and there's I think a lot of celebrities out there who are like kind of famous, but if you had to ask anyone like, is this person someone's actual favorite? This is a wow. It's there not. But like, I would say that like the one thing I'll say is I do think for some people that show is somebody's favorite. And so now I have really riding the seven seas, streaming the Mindy Project. I'm telling all the people and all the ports he goes to have you heard the show Mindy Project I can't do it. An insane Indian woman and I bear hopes try to have sex in New York City. I try to try to try to connect. I also want to tell you and you hold a special place in our heart because of the first culture, cultural awards. We obviously did our opening number and then every single time we watched it, it goes from us and we threw over to you and you were our first presenter of the night. And we just, we were watching it together for the first time before it had come out and we were just like watching it to be the cut, you know, and you came on the screen and it just validated the whole thing and just made us feel so happy that you would roll the dice on something that was hard to explain, like it's in a word show but it's a comedy special etcetera, but you were so down. Okay. I have a couple of reactions. One is, thank you for saying that, but I was so pissed being backstage that I had to follow your dance number. No. It was, in Europe, that was such a beautiful thing you said and I'm sorry to answer it with anger. But I was like, I have to come out after that. I'm going to brought the house down, this dance number. And then I had to come out and be like, wow, in my dress. And so I'm very, I'm very pleased. I mean, it was great. Don't know why I wasn't invited this year. Oh, I saw. Who did I see in the carpet? No, before you. Michelle and G. Flip. Yes. I mean, and they looked amazing. They really did. There's a really cool romance. There's a really cool and great love. Yeah. That's real culture. Number 12. And Rachel Ziegler, you know. So I saw a lot of, I was about to sit contemporaries, but I know that Rachel Ziegler would feel absolutely honored to hear you say that. She's my great granddaughter in culture, but I did see, you know, when you get invited to be on the first one and then you're looking for that invite. Oh, okay. The second one. Then why don't we just go ahead and call it an eternal invite to the show? Okay. Thank you. Now we're away or just just just the, it's in the mail. Okay. Going forward. Here's my, my wish. Go ahead. This is going to be a huge hit tonight, right? The show's going to be amazing. We hope. Who knows? I want next year for it to be such a hit that next year, everyone's like asking their public says, leading up, like, I got to get in there. I got to get in there. I really want to do it. And it's very tight. Like, remember the vanity fair party? Oh, yeah. You're like, am I going to get invited? This year, sometimes they make it really small. I want it to be very tight and I want to be one of the very small exclusive few who gets to present. Okay. Got it. Noted. Would you like? I don't even going to let him speak anymore because before it was a damn mixed message invitation. Would you like to win? I want to win. I want to win. I want to win, but I don't want it to be rigged. So could it be, I have to break something to you. The whole thing. The whole thing. Okay. I didn't want it to. I mean, Hollywood. I mean, all this. This. Okay. Of course I'd like to win, but in a way where it was like that stacked against me. And it's like, I can't believe it. Like it's like parasite winning. Yeah. I want you to have like a. You will be the carousel. And an extremely old person where you don't know if they're going to be able to come back again. So it's got to be them. Yeah. And then they're like immediately going and I can go up and be like, this wasn't this should not be me. And this podcast will just erase from memory. Yeah. never happened. - So listen, just, I mean, you know how I feel. - Okay, now we do. - You got some friggin' A-listers in here. You got some friggin' A-listers in here with their hot takes. - Look, we're talking to them. - Did you see Nicole Kimmon have, what I would call like a little bit of a happy fit over my shirt with Looney Tunes on it? - It went viral. - Great, seems like you saw it. - Yeah, it went viral, but she has another, I mean, I think you could agree, and I think the appearance confirmed. - Nicole has a other world-lead-ness, and if you're lucky, it feels like if you're, it'll couple of these moments will appear. - She remembers everything. - She remembers everything, and you know what someone said? This is a woman, oh, when we asked her about like, would you want to direct, she was like, no, I just love acting so much, and then someone else, a friend pointed out like, this woman has never had a side hustle. And isn't that amazing? - Yeah. - Like, we can't say the same for us. - No. - This is the side hustle, I'm sorry to say. - Yeah, when you're a side hustle is Chanel Ambassador. That's like a view of life. - You're right, you're so right. - Right, like it's, it's, that was a great episode. - Thank you so much. - I mean, the thing is, it was odd to feel at the end. Like, I could go out for drinks with Nicole again. (gasps) Sometimes, sometimes people come in and I'm like, that's my friend now. We never speak again, but. - I find that so hard to believe because I feel, and you guys are so busy, I only met you a handful of times. - That's right, one time at the Olympics. - One time in Milan, I walked right through in that parking lot. - Yeah, we were upset actually in that parking lot. - We were dealing with a situation where one of the people in our group left her credentials at the hotel. - Oh, no. - Or take it, and we were like, do we wait for her, but we're gonna miss the opening ceremony. - Oh, and that-- - You forgot your credentials. - That, you know, that was the kind of thing where they told my group like 30 times. - Yeah. - And they checked the credentials and the bus, and then they, who was it? - We can't. - It was a universal talent, right? - It was not universal talent. - Oh, it wasn't. - It was. - Kaya Gerber? - No. (laughing) - Can I guess elaborate? - It was Kaya Gerber. - I just thought that she'll be able to shoulder this. If we start a rumor about Kaya Gerber, she's gonna be fine. - Leaving her credentials is like, not the worst things for Kaya Gerber to do, but like, come on. - No, the person who left her-- Oh, it's what, I'm gendered, it's she, her, but-- - It's actually been gendered. - But I think for her also, she has a Kaya Gerber as quality about her. - Well, what ended up happening was this girl ended who was like a hot, incredibly attractive girl, was like, "Oh, I forgot my credentials, fuck." And maybe it won't be a big deal. Guess what? Reader, it wasn't. - It wasn't. (laughing) - She breathes through, was in the seat way before us. - Like, yeah, I figured it out. It's like, yes, you did. - Of course she did. - Confirming every bad feeling that we think of, like, you don't need credentials if you're so hot, particularly in Italy. - In Italy where-- - I'm sorry. - In Milan, like, you're like, "Oh, right, racist country." (laughing) - I didn't have my credentials, they would have been like, you must have go back to a hotel. - To whatever. - To sit down lonely. Oh, no, you cannot see opening ceremony. - To sit down lonely all night. - To room service. - Sit down lonely. Might be frontrunner for a hotel. - Sit down lonely. - Sit down lonely. - Sit down lonely. - But how's your Olympics? 'Cause we barely saw-- We did not see you out there. - Yes, we're working. - Yeah. - Technically. - You were working and bringing a lot of joy. And I think explaining what was going on. - In the best way we could, which, by the way, by the end, we actually knew the rules to ice dancing. And we're self-describing for fans. - Absolutely. - He was really into the curl. - I loved the curling. - Yeah. - You did a lot of different events. - The speed's getting I sat out of hockey, of Women's Hockey. He did sit out of Women's Hockey. - 'Cause you don't. (laughing) - No, says Bowen. - This is a man's sport. - And a man's sport. And yeah, it's my anti-lesbian sort of sentiment coming out. But I really did not. - No, I am sad that I missed it. - Yeah. - What did you go to? - I went, so this happens very rarely, but it's kind of glam and nice. We're Warner Brothers who are my boss. Generously just said, "Do you want to come with some people to go?" And so it was me and a couple other Warner Brothers celebrities. And they're like, "Can you just want to watch ice skating?" And then we shopped, and then I left. It was so nice. - But I would say the opening ceremony, I don't know if you felt this way. It was like very, I guess I don't know that much about performances of art and other country. It was so, it was like the biggest times a thousand. - Yes. - It was so much about paint. (laughing) - I mean, I was like, one of the big themes was paint, materially paint. - It was, it was not straightforward in the way that I think an American opening ceremony would be like, where it was like, "This means this and this means this." It was really like swirling colors and symbolistic stuff. - Do you remember the fleet of men helping Mariah to and fro? - Oh my God, I don't remember that until this moment. That was amazing. It was just like, you saw, just like, it had to be like four or five people like bringing her out to the center. She sang her song and then they all came out and I'm like, all, it was like a team effort again. - It was really good. - It was gorgeous. The venue, like I never been in something that many people. - Me neither. - Me neither. - And I love Milan. - See, my gay guy self was like, I bet Taylor did Eris here. And we found out she did. - Did she really? - Yeah, she sure did. - Wow. - That was a Taylor Swift Sci Stadium right there. You've not been to the big thing about European stadiums like that is there will be people on the ground or in the aisles offering free water. And you just don't get that here. - No, that did happen several times. That was really nice. - They were all so kind. - Yes. - And we felt sad because we left before Charlize. - I think I might have left before Charlize. - It was three or four hours long. - No, not that long. - It was approximately 16 hours. - It was 16 hours long of entertainment. - We left, oh, well we left after the flags. But I was like, by the time the guys came out and it looked like Caprese salad on the floor. You know what I mean? It was red, red, white and green. It was like, oh, you know, like, great, Italy. But then. - It's so great. - It is, gosh, it's kind of all fuzzy. - Yeah. - It's the ice skating, though. - It did see ice skating. - Yeah, you had to see ice skating. - I mean, that was amazing. - We saw the team win gold. - Oh my god. - That was really cool. - That is huge. I didn't see, I don't think I saw the Americans won anything. I just saw. - You know what's so funny? This is another connection we have. 'Cause you know who I was texting the whole time was Chris Liker. - I was literally gonna say it made me really respect Chris. - Yes, so see. This is a mutual friend that we all have. Chris was worked with Mindy and is a friend of ours and he was a professional figure skater. - With his little sister. - Yeah, pairs. - Pairs and he then is also a comedy writer. - Yes. - So he's had a really fun, he is like just a chill life. - Chill life. - He should be nominated for the Michael Jordan Award for I also do this. - Yes. - I know word of the cultural awards. - And it made me, 'cause I know he had done it, but that made me really understand how hard it was. - Yeah. - And also the pairs thing is tough because it's, one of them sometimes messes up and you can't be really mad at them. - Right. - Or if you are, you have to really suppress that. So there's a lot of acting involved. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Did you watch the documentary on Netflix? - No, I did. - Of the ice dance pairs. Oh, it's phenomenal. Three parts, quick. I mean, when you know how it ends based on how the metals shook out, it's a little disappointing. - Okay, I gotta watch it. - Yeah, 'cause there's like, 'cause the French pair. - And the French pair who are the villains, like clearly the villains, like when. - The documentary paints a villain. - Yes, the French pair is a villain. And there's like, I could go ahead and call him an evil gay guy. - With a huge ass. - The biggest ass. - And they won gold and I'm telling you, you can tell, it's like when they hit the ice, it's like a blades of glory character. It's like when Amy Poehler and Will are not coming and you're like, oh, well, those are the villains. - Oh my God. - That was so how they appeared on ice. And then they did routine to Madonna's vogue and it was just so incredible that you're like, yeah, that mean guy. I hope wins. - How did you know he was mean? - Well, so the story is he, sort of this, it's in the face. - It was his face. - Okay, I thought it was in the documentary, he said so it is. - It is in the documentary, essentially. So the new pair, the incredible thing is they'd only been skating together as a pair for like nine months. - Well, most pairs are, you know, developed over the course of many years. - Yes. - But it's because the woman was Canadian, was this Kibbe Kwa woman who, her partner has been disqualified from the league because of an SA allegation. - Oh wow. - And she kind of stood by him, but he could no longer compete and she was without a partner. He was without a partner because his partner was like, he is a very toxic person and this dynamic is, was really bad for me. - This is so juicy. - Yeah. - And then they got together. - They got together. - They, out of necessity, they got together under a year when all the way, like just qualified for the Olympics and then one gold. - Wow. - Like decidedly. - Okay, wow, okay. - And by the way, this is like, I'm butchering the details for sure. - It's amidst like the America's sweetheart narrative that Madison Chalkan Evan Bates very much had. [BLANK_AUDIO] They're all rooting for them and then they just got stomped out by the mean French people. Madison Choc has star power. Oh, absolutely. And Evan Bates. Oh, that's a good couple. I don't remember him as well, but Madison Choc, she's got that smile, right? She is always beaming, finding her light. It is so, it's a smile for God. It's a smile for God. Yeah. A Christian God. It's a smile for a Christian God. She could, it's a smile for a Christian God. It's actually legal to number 30. Madison Choc has a smile for a Christian God. It's really true. She could, she should sell, she could sell me anything. Yeah. Like if she was like had a, some kind of a part of brand. Where's Neutrogena on her? I know. I would, I would buy it. But the gag is that she was designing other people's outfits. Yeah. Then I did hear this. Yes. Right? So she, she was watching her competitors dance in her own outfits. Yes. Yes. Now ice skating is a real interesting. Absolutely. We left as like big fans. Yeah. It was fabulous. And we were being critical. We were like, they were watching them hit the ice and we were like, no, I'm not clean. And we were watching with Adam Rapun. Oh my gosh. He seems fun. Oh, the best. That's nice. A great time. A great time. I like when people live up to, because he does seem cool. Nice guy with a huge ass. He's out there. Yes. And you could see them all up close and personal. Yes. The asses? Yeah. Yeah. Kind of the best part. I try to, I try to be polite. I don't look. You don't look. Please. I say you look, but you, politeness is not saying, but you don't even look. I don't even look. I get, I get, I get eye shy. You know, I, I just don't want, you know, that's it. I don't want everyone's thought whether they're ice skating or not. I think I do too. Yeah. It's just glance. You just look. You just got it. I look more now, actually, after heated rivalry. Well, those were really good. Those are really good. Were you a big fan of the series? I really liked it. I really liked the positions that they did so that you could really see the butts. Yes. Like, there was, like, they would often be that one great actor. I'm forgetting his name. Is it a Connor story? Yeah, Connor story. Yeah. The one who was Russian. Yes. He's so funny on SNL with all the access. He's so talented. Yeah. But his greatest talent is the way that he could contort his body so that the cinematographer could catch his butt. Yeah. Yeah. Being always juicy. Because even with people with juicy butts, it doesn't always look juicy. No, you need, you need the help of cinematography on set. I find it. Like, his legs would be split in the right ways all the time. It's, it's really, you had to find the light. Yeah. And speaking of the light, I was going to say, like, what a beautiful convocation of the departments where it's like, oh, the gaffer is really slight. Like, that ass is lit. Departments on 10 for those asses. Absolutely. And you know, I think that Hudson felt the heat because he was like, OK, I got to raise my game because his ass can find the light. This, they're like first seen where they like really have sex. There's a moment where Hudson, like, starts crawling towards him and the way he turns like his leg. He's sort of like cheating you a little side, but and it worked on me and we, we mean cheating as in like tilting to camera, he was, he was favoring the camera, and it worked on I think all of the world. Yeah. Absolutely. And Conor story's incredible character, Ilya Rosanov. Yeah. And I should have led with that they're great actors. He did. And I liked the story and the romance. Well, they didn't lead with that. The first two episodes were not about that. Hey, I don't care about the sex in the show. I just like the romance. No, it's true. I just, you know, I don't know them in person and I, I'm worried, I'm always worried. They're going to be like, you didn't even know my name. You call me accent guy unless Colch, you said I was that accent guy with the juicy butt. They need some humbling. They don't know. Not humbling. I would find it refreshing that you would be like, oh my gosh, you're that wonderful actor. They would love that because I think now they, they, now my algorithm is a lot of people like zooming in on like sweatpants photos of them and like, they're getting the giant treatment. Yeah, they've reached that. They've gotten to that level and I'm like, that's great. Happy for them. Unless it's like, unless it's like not necessarily wanted, but who's to say? Who's to say? Who's to say? They're pretty publicly like, every time they pose for a camera, it's sort of giving like, want me. Want me. Want me. Someone who's never been objectified. I understand there are people who don't like it, but it's very hard to relate to. I'm jealous. I'm like, I would never, I just would only, I would only ever love for people to be pushing in on my chest, like to be taking a photo and pushing in to see if you can see my nipples. Simhot 100. I always saw her nipples. Yeah. I'm in a shadow of your perception. I liked it. You went, you, you left and came back in, Fraser sat down and he said, most beautiful woman I've ever seen. Are you kidding me? I'm like unreal. What? He loves you. Who, who am I hotter than? Who? I know. No. I, that's so, that is really nice. I bet you like amazing names. Thank you guys. It's a lot of work. Thank you. I appreciate it. For all of us. Truly. I appreciate it. I mean, thank you. And Fraser's, he's over there in heaven. I'm flushing. Well, get, get, get, get ready because it's about to get better because we're actually about to ask you and be killing the question, the central question of West College. And now, a vital break from our sponsor, Vital Proteins, you know the blue tub. You've probably seen everywhere. That's Vital Proteins College and peptides. Now why use them? Because they're the experts, the number one college and brand in the US. I'm talking about ingredients backed by science and shown to be effective. 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I'm Eli Rallo and every week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet and the conversations everyone can't stop having. - I'm gonna have to look up this story. I'm obsessed, I'm obsessed. - From bestselling authors and your favorite book talk creators to the latest pop culture moments, nothing is off the table. - It's like if you can hide some real messages inside compelling characters and that is a Trojan horse. - Whether you're looking for literary deep dives, smart pop culture conversations or a community of readers who love to think a little too much, you're in the right place. Listen to Pro's Society on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. See you between the pages. - Mindy Kaling, what is the culture that made you say culture is for me? - Okay, I think the culture that made me say that culture is for me is award shows. And I'm not, I guess I'm not. - We know you're not, no we know. - This is not synergistic. It's not a cynical synergistic answer because of what's happening. - Thank you for knowing how much it helps us tonight. To mention them. - I feel, and I don't know if you guys felt this way that I grew up in suburban Boston. And I think award shows for me as someone who felt like I had no access to Hollywood or anything. Was it an amazing mix of competitiveness, couture and Hollywood and Chobas. And to me those were all the things that I, I mean, as like a competitive Asian nerd, like I love that element of it too. Like they can't just get up and win an award. They have to fight each other. - Yes. - And also, I don't know if you guys felt this way, but I was so nerdy about award shows that I was like, I'll remember so distinctly when Al Pacino was up for his Oscar for a son of a woman, I was probably like 12 or 16. - Was that 90? - Yes, I was like 10 or 11 years old. But I remember so well being like the lore of it, being like, you know, like I was the kid that was walking around being like, you know that he's been nominated for Godfather, Godfather too, Serpico and Dog Day afternoon and he's never won. So this could be the time he won. And I was like, I didn't hadn't seen any of those movies, but I like knew the importance of like, this is a story of the man who's been snubbed several times and he is owed this. And I'd just go around at school telling people this information because I thought it was important. So I think award shows, and we'd all get together and watch them, you know, I think that was really, and like, I don't know if you guys felt this way, like the vibe of the Golden Globes was so different than the Oscars and you could wear cocktail for the Golden Globes when you would endure where that to the Oscars. And if you did, it was because you were like, be your or Sharon Stone and trying to like make a statement. So to me, award shows are like was a huge part of like when I decided culture was culture. - I had this feeling about you because this reminds me of when I met you because do you remember when I met you at Sundance? You were there with late night. - Oh my God, okay. - So I was covering the festival for Vulture. We used to do that together but Boen had just booked us and now so I went up to Sundance by myself and you came in for late night and I was asking everyone who's gonna win the best actress Oscar this year and I was saying is it gonna be Glenn Close or Lady Gaga? Glenn Close for the wife and Lady Gaga for a star's born and you said it's gonna be Olivia Coleman for the favorite and you were right and you were the only one who said publicly who they thought would win. Naomi Watts almost left the room. - Wait, wait a second. I said that. - You said Olivia Coleman. - By the way, you're Nicole Kidnan with your memory. That was my first time meeting you. - That was incredible. - Second of all, I can't believe I said that. - You did. - 'Cause sometimes on red carpets, don't you just feel like you're like, I don't know, I'm just prattling on. Like let me just have takes just to say stuff. I never say anything I'm behind those things. I'm like, I'm just, I just talked for two minutes and I don't know what I said. - To the point where I feel like sometimes, I'm like, I don't wanna test out this new thought. I don't even feel it. - Maybe I think this. I'm gonna see how it sounds in public and then do it and you should be thinking the opposite. You should be like, I need to have a tried and true opinion here. Hey, I'm really impressed. - You nailed it. - Maybe I affected. Maybe that's what why it happened. - I mean, definitely it was an help item that year. - But you were compelled to say that as an informed take, you were someone who follows awards. - I mean, it's so luxury to be someone who has informed takes about award shows, but I am that person. - We were literally just saying today, one of our answers to this question is the 1997 film, 'cause that was the one Titanic. - It's huge here. - It was my first Oscars and it was like, who's this Billy Crystal guy? He's so funny. - So funny. - What are all these video packages with him in the movies? Like, oh my God, look at it, it just, and it felt like this big snub when Helen Hunt won or something to kids, 'cause I was reading for Kate. - Well, that was where goodwill hunting was against Titanic, right? - It was goodwill hunting as good as it gets Titanic. I believe that year was also LA Confidential. - Oh my God. - Yeah, Kim Basinger won her Oscar that year. - Oh my God. - Yeah, like award shows I've been saying this, 'cause we would start a jacket today for the culture awards. I was like, oh, it's like the beam refracted into all these different things that I love now, which is like music, dance, live comedy, or live television comedy. It was just, it has everything. It has this structure of a variety show, but it has the arc of something where it all builds up to this thing where by the end of the night, people are either completely disappointed or so triumphant. - Well, I think that's so correct. And especially now, Bowen, we're like, I mean, the wicked press tour, right? You have these long legs. There's these arcs, as you said, like there's these arcs of stories where you're just like watching like Cynthia and Ariana and like this is what it was like then and this is the scaper rally thing they wore and this is where she held her finger and now she seems like maybe she's sped up or someone tried to grab her. And like, you know what I mean? And everyone has different different arcs leading up to it. Like the tides turn so much as well. - Yeah. - So a work shows are, I feel like they're only becoming more and more, this is what I can imagine, real football, fans feel, but the Super Bowl, right? - Yes, when we were there for wicked 'cause I went as Bowen State, it felt, I felt physical pain when Demi lost her. - 'Cause it was such the-- - The room, the room really, you've experienced this, like in those rooms, what it shifts and you're like, "Oh, whoa, this is strange." - 'Cause also you're very aware that someone has just won an Oscar, who obviously it's incredible performance, but to know that there was that much happening in that moment was so wild. - Yes, this is why I felt this about Al Pacino. He's got a win, he's been overlooked. - Luckily. - But you know what else about Demi Moore? Is that she had given that speech. Hey, I'm a loser, I'm a loser. I remember the speech she gave. - We know, we know. - At the Globes, which was incredible, one of the great acceptance speeches of time. - Amazing, I thought it was shown up for her. - Yep. - And then. - And then. - And then, I was gonna say, you know what, reading your first book inspired me? - Whoa. - Because I was like, I didn't mean whoa. - Whoa, like just a nice-- - What, I related to you. - A nice pivot. - He's a pro. - No, that's not Bowen Yang. - That's what a culture number said. - No, no, no. - Bowen Yang, he's a pro. - That was not a segue. That was a hard lurch of a pivot. - I don't know, I loved it and shouldn't have said, whoa, 'cause I slowed this down. You're momentum to talk about my book. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is all part of it. - Yeah, please. - I was expecting an answer to the question. Like in terms of maybe like the Simpsons or SNL, where I related to you so much when you were saying that you would look, you would watch the credits of these shows and be like, who are the writers? - Oh my God, yes. - 'Cause this was something that like Matt and I would do growing up where we were like, and it didn't occur to us until later, until we were like, earnestly, like aspiring two comedy jobs where we were like, oh yeah, I guess that does like, that does sort of like set things apart for us. Where we're like, we've, we've loved this for a long time. - One day I'm gonna meet Brian Tucker. - I literally, I sleepovers. Like your friends are moving on. They're playing "Mash" in another room, sleepover, and I'm like, who's Dennis McNickelis? - Yeah, oh my God. - I can't leave you one day on the day. - I don't know if I've never met Dennis McNickelis. - Oh my God, I love him. - I met Paula Pell at SNL50 and I was like, I'm going up. But it was hard, I was like, - Yeah, she really lives up to it, right? Because she's also a performer and she's so funny. - Just the best. - Yeah, and she was like, one of the only female names you would see on this. - Totally, definitely, totally. - And don't. - But I was just gonna say like that, like, I love, I feel like you're, this is, we're kinfo 'cause it's like, you award shows, but also this thing that imprinted on you very early on, which is like, comedy credits. - Yes. - You know what I mean? - Can I mong, is that I mong? - Can I mong? - I remember seeing his name 'cause it was very, is one of the first credits that you'd see when the show was ending. And I was like, that guy, what is his role? He was the sort of control room producer, like stage managers, made sure everyone came to blocking on time, but like, ran such a tight ship. - Yeah, wow. - Like people, - I don't know, people, I love that man, Kenny, see I need to, I've always been very curious about your guest writing stunt. - Oh yeah. - What was like, like talk about that? - It was so, it was so intimidating. - Yeah. - That it was, people were, it was really intimidating. I learned so much. Some people were extremely friendly and it was intense. Like I got a glimpse of something that I thought like, you guys know now that LA writing scene on a sitcom is so different than writing on a variety show. I didn't think that. I thought it would just be like being on the writers, being, I thought it would just be like being in the writers room for the office, but more glamorous, later hours. And it was, it's a completely different vibe, but it was, like I remember distinctly like, Amy and Tina were so kind. Will Forte was so game and so kind, the lonely island guys were really nice. But it was also unmistakably. And I think you would say this like super competitive. - Yes. - And like there was like kind of like a little bit more of a whisper culture than I thought a little bit. Or like it just like, but I, it wasn't like anyone was unfriendly to me. I just noticed, it was kind of anthropologically interesting to come and see it. - The way the doors would close. - Doors close and I mean I, I could not and did not take anything at all personally because I was just there for two weeks and people were really nice about the office. And that was before the office was even I think considered to be like a cool show. I think this was in a hiatus between season two and three, but it wasn't, it hadn't like fully become like a hit I think. - But at that point, like you were, like Kelly was like, like a like a main, like a, not- - I don't think that's an always. - When did that, 'cause Kelly was a different type of character the first season. - Yes. - Right, Kelly was like a, is English her first language? Like when you saw her, like is she like from another country? Like the way she dressed? Okay, but I have like, but she was just like a, like a kind of like, like she's, she's like a woman from another country Michael. Like don't be, like I, it wasn't- - Don't get in her face. - She wasn't like pop culture, Kelly. - Yeah, really, really. - She was, but second season she was more, but I think at that time, if I may say, I think people respected the office, but I don't think SNL was quite, okay, so I feel like people who like Kelly are like a certain kind of woman in gay men. And I don't think SNL was that gay then. - No, no, certainly wasn't. - So I think- - James and Paula Pell were holding it down. - Yeah, so I think, but I think everyone, like, respected, 'cause we had a lot of crossover, I think Mike sure had a lot of friends, obviously still at SNL, and he was, I worked with him there. So that was a nice name to drop when I would meet people. - Totally, yeah. - But, yeah, I mean, I was in awe of it, obviously, and, but yeah, like, you know. - But gosh, I mean, it's so interesting that like the office was able to sort of like, this is the wrong word for it, but like bell weathered like the queer-coded humor before a show like SNL could, you know what I mean? Or, and that's not fair to say, but it's like, I can recite here, here we go, here's a deep cut. You think the mini project is a deep cut? You check this out. You don't return my text, you see my phone, don't get no text once you got ADD added up, don't equal you and me. Like Shakespeare said, to be or not to be, sometimes you're Romeo with me. - I. - I sometimes you're Romeo with me. - Wait, I am dying. - 'Cause that wasn't even an office episode, that was a bonus online video, wasn't it? - That was like one webisode, it's more. - That was a webisode. - It was a webisode. - We're trying to figure out a webisode. Now, I'm, I gotta say, I'm really happy that you think of that finally, because the next slide is, you look gay and you're skinny. - You're skinny, tight. - I don't be gay, killed in a drive-by. - It's not okay to say now. - You can't say. - You're a bad comedy. - I know, comedy laughing. That's all that matter. - I think it's okay to say, you look gay and skinny. - You look gay and skinny. - You're talking to someone. - Do you see this around the time when Kitty Perry was like, you're so gay and you don't even let it go. - It was good. - It's modeling the culture. - You don't even let it go. - Yeah. - Yeah. - 2008, 2009. - I feel so happy that somewhere it NYU-- - Oh, it is. - Not even NYU. Somewhere it's your, when you're a freshman in high school, that you were like noticing dramaturgically different things that were going into subtle sexuality. - We would watch, like, I just remember we would, there was the Beach Games episode of the office, is my favorite episode of TV, maybe ever. - Wow. - Oh my god, my high school friends and I would watch it. Again and again and again. And I would just love a good old fashioned, like, Kelly, one line, like, yeah, I have a question. How dare you? - I know. - Also, well, I'm pregnant. Cut to her confessional. - You know, it's been nice. This has happened with you guys a lot. I love being memed. And those are really, it's really, it makes me feel young. - Oh, to be memed. - To be memed. And like, those lines, like, being able to see them, because, I don't know, I'm-- - That's forever. - It's forever. But memes are forever. - I'm not saying that. - That's forever. And the front runner for title of app here is now to be memed. - To be memed. - To be memed. - No, I'm saying the office is forever. That's what I'm saying. - You must be, like, further in the cap. That is forever. - It does feel nice when, 'cause you never know, like, I've had some shows that work. Some of the people really don't like. But it's nice to be able to look back at that one and be like, okay, I wrote, 'cause, you know, when you write a bunch of episodes like that and then you do a lot of shows that are like the sex lives of college girls in the Mindy Project, which is, like, totally so different. - Right. - And a lot of men hate them. (laughs) It's nice that they're, like, - Well, they love running points. - They're, like, how did she work on them? You can see them. I mean, how did she work in the office? Like, because we like the office when we hate the shows. So, it's nice to be able to have-- - God forbid, she contained a multitude. - So, it's nice that thank you for saying that. I, like, what I like about you guys is you watch a lot of stuff. I do too. - What do you do? - What's been your media diet? - I'm not a snob at all. And so, I watch everything from Fraser's show. - Do you watch Polo Deck? - Polo Deck, which I got into because of other young writers on my show. - Yeah, yeah. - And I'm not really a big reality show person. - Mm-hmm. - And then yet. Also, like, and, but I'll learn about them from, like, I feel like I'll see, like, Page and Hannah. - Oh, I would love to hear you go deep on Summer House. I want you to work the Summer House podcast. - Thank you. I gotta, I don't know if I know quite enough. - But, again, yet, I would, this is a classic. This is a huge, straight to series for me, is you starting from episode one of Summer House. - Okay, so-- - I see billions of dollars. - I, like, I love that you can do this. I do anything to not have to write television. (laughing) It's so hard. - I don't have a phrase. That's not so good. - No. (laughing) - No, I just just, I want-- - When did you have this feeling? Because, you know, you know, when it dawned on me that, like, writing fucking socks, was when Phoebe Waller-Bridge hosted us in hell, and we were talking between, you know, blocking, stop downs or whatever, and I was just like, whatever. I didn't even bring enough, she just goes, writing is the worst fucking thing in the world. - It's absolutely-- - I hate to do it. And yet, I have to, and it's amazing, and I do love it, but it is the word. Ultimately, she loves it. - Yeah. - What she was telling me was, it is, by nature, so fucking hard. - It's so hard. - 'Cause it's hard to have fun preparing to do it, and sitting down to do it, and then doing it, and so that is, but what is your actual writing process? Do you actually get down and type out? Like, are you on the go? Like, I'm curious about that. - So for, so for different things, like, so for the writer's rooms, that's just like sitting in a room. But I think the hard thing is, coming up with things that are legitimately funny, over and over again, and like, the joke writing. Like, on the Mindy Project, we had Tracy Wickfield, Matt Warbert, and Lang Fisher. We had a lot of, like, I can Dave, we had a lot of really great joke writers, but like, that thing of like, it's just so hard to come up with, not many jokes, it just takes a lot of effort, and that's the thing with like, the comedy shows. Like, so when I watch, heated rivalry or off-campus, I'm naming a lot of sexy shows. But like, when I, when I see those ones, I'm like, I, I don't think it's easy. I think there's like other challenges to doing sexy hour longs. But like, I long to have it not be that, the thing that's keeping you from going home, or having a lot of this joke writing. Like, there is tension. - There is tension, and then get in your car, and go home. - Get in my car and go home. So I, I don't need that. - There's a tension between them. - But I mean, you guys, like, first of all, hosting funny awards shows, doing SNL. Like, with, you got, I mean, you must face this, with your guys as writers. It's just, but it's, it is the most fun. - Yeah. - But it is exhausting. Now, writing for, when I write my essays, that's challenging, all I'm doing is complaining. Like, these are great jobs. I want to just acknowledge. - Yeah, but, I think that the hard thing is, when you know that they're fun jobs, and yet you still, like, your brain is like, it's decided it's work. - It's. - And so then you have to, I guess, reframe the mentality to be like, I am lucky to be with you. - I am lucky. - But, it's still, it's very challenging to, people don't understand it's like math, you know? - Yeah. - And so I think when I'm, when I'm writing my essays, then it's the thing where I'm alone at my house. And I feel like we've all read the celebrity essays, where you can just tell the person is just doing it because someone paid them a lot of money. And it's just sort of boring. And so I think, like, then you see a really good version of it, like, Aussie pants. And that thing is really, really good. with jokes like Tina clearly spent so long making sure that that was so, so funny and I think like so I that's those are it's just hard but it's it's obviously worth it. But speaking of your first but again, speaking of your essay books, you did also predict another thing in addition to the Olivia Coleman win, that Beyonce would release a country album. Did I say that? You said that and your first fucking book, Mindy. Wait, you know what's funny? I know that I said there was going to be like a cool 8 movie and then that was a runner that was a runner in the studio. Oh, wow. See, wait, what's going on with you? Am I Nostradamus? Yes! A hot Indian Master of Domest. Yes! That's the show. That's the title of that. Did you produce it? Yes. It's just a woman. No, I think we're coming up with a lot of it stuff. A lot of it. Across media. You know, that would be like a good CBS show. I'm a single mom in my 40s trying to date if they're dating and then like I'm in the middle of a date with Scott Speedman. Yeah. And I'm like, wait, wait, I see something coming. Mindy, you're going to sell a show right now if you're not careful and you hate writing. I hate writing. I hate writing. But I would like working on hot Indian Master of Domest. I know. Like, like, like, vocalist, like, the moguls, like, it's like Amy Poer has page in hand and now it's like, I know. You just adopt us, like, in that way. Adopt us, please. Well, you guys came up with this. I would be your page in Hannah's. Like, you guys, okay. Yes, okay, yes. We're your Amy, you're our page in Hannah's. Absolutely. You're the producers. All right, great. We can do that. You're a video village. Coming in. I love it. I love us. Oh, we get chiseled with our names. Yes. Oh, I love that. Oh, I love that. So much work for us. Yeah. This is a bizarre question. But I know my answer. I went to school for writing. Actually, I went to NYU Titian. I went just went back into the commencement speech for the dramatic writing. Are you kidding me? Yeah, it was a really moving, emotional. But first of all, huge, that is talk about writing, being hard. Writing a commencement speech is at the very top because that shit's got to be very funny, like, very grabby. And it was for writers, too. And to be, yes, and it has to be, like, emotional. And you have to have some kind of original message that no one has ever said that they just can't be, like, be true to yourself or take risks or some shit. No, I really wanted to tell the truth. And I was like, listen, I think that when you are a writer right now and you're facing this industry, it would be really hard to get demoralized. And also all of the parents are there who have just spent, and let me say this clearly, $100,000 on their kid's education. Oh, my God. All right. And they're thinking, you know, what the hell? What's going to happen to my kid? In fact, a lot of them, parents came up and they were like, it's really nice to see someone that was successful in the program come back. Like, thank you for doing this. And I was just like, listen, you didn't waste your money because they have a community. And that is so important and so rare. Just to have a bunch of people around that you know that are also doing, I mean, that was us. That gave us everything. Like, we're still in touch with people from back then. I still see people, you know, thriving in the business, like, in many different ways. And what I said to them was, don't be afraid of taking different forms. Like, you might not, it might not be the best idea for you to move to LA right now and like hit the mail room or something. You might, it might be you taking, you know, again, this is my ought's popping out, but an improv class or, you know, or trying something new. Or yes, starting a podcast or just, you have to support each other in those forms. But I was looking out at them and I was like, here they are, like with their spec scripts and hand and everything. And it got me thinking about what made me decide. I wanted to be a writer. And I wonder when that moment was for you. Like not only just when you decided to become a writer, but when you knew that was a thing. Well, I was, I first want to react to the speech, which was that must have been so reassuring for the parents and for the kids there who could not only, not only hear that from you, but to be like, know about your relationship with Bowen and how you guys met and how this could be them. And like, that must have been so reassuring for like, the parents I'm running who put into some massive investment. I can't wait to Google this now. I basically made the speech about our friend, Soudie, because we met at the program, Soudie Green. And she went on too. It was amazing, yeah. Then she went on to become a supervising writer and SNL, wrote on the cultural awards with us. We've worked on shows. Like, I love that for you together that she wrote for and I was on, but I was telling them, I was like, you know, these people that you're surrounded by that you think are special really are. So make it about that. You know, she just had a baby and it's just, she's still our close, close friend from all the way back there. So just trying to let them know, like, these are real connections in this moment. And it's important because there are not a lot of resources out there, right? But you have each other. And I think that that's-- - Well, and that's so important when you feel like you don't have access. Like, I remember so much being 21 and there's other people you see out there and their parents have this connection and they have this in that and you're like, I don't have access, but you're like, okay. It must have been reassuring for those people to be like, well, we have access to our other friends that we believe in. - Yeah. - And together we can build a foundation and create something. - Yeah. - That's so nice. And to answer it, what was your question? - When we realized-- - 'Cause I remember I didn't really realize that I could do that as a career. 'Cause I was watching Lost One Day. - What? - And I was watching, it was the sixth episode of the first season of Lost House of the Rising Sun. It was Sun's Flashback episode where you found out she has been learning how to speak English so she can leave Jin. And I am sobbing at the end of it because there's this flashback where she's walking towards this black car that's gonna drive her away and she turns around and Jin holds up like her favorite flower and orchid and she goes back to him and then it cuts them on the beach and you realize that decision has cost her, you know? - Oh my, I'm getting chills. - And I was sobbing and the score was going and I was like, oh my God. And then it cuts to the credits and it's written by someone. And I was like-- - No, I want to do that. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I was like, I want to do that. I have to, I want to write this. Oh, and then it clicked for me. I was like, and it was so exciting. I was like, I know what I want to do. And I wonder when you had that moment or if that moment appeared ever. I guess it's another form of the culture question. - It is, yeah. - What specific to you? - So I think we talked earlier about how we just will look at credits. And to me, I was not like a snop. Like I would watch like whatever my parents would let me watch. So like I remember at that time, it was really just like what was on. Like I looked like the ex files. I liked this. You guys, I don't know if you got no Dr. Katz. Like that was a comedy central show. Jonathan Katz, the stand up. - Oh cool. - And he played a therapist and all these different stand. It was like one of those early comedy central animated show, Squiggle Vision. - Oh cool. - So that was, but I would just look at, and then, I mean, I don't even know if you guys were watching TV, but comedy central would have like, premium blend, and they would do, like you would turn, if you were sick at home, you would turn on the TV and like they would have these random things where just they would do like three minute clips of lots of different standups. - Yeah. - Maybe like Judy Gold, and Judy Gold, who's not suitable for work and is an icon. - Oh, an icon. - And Emo Phillips and those kinds of things. So to me, it was a mix of just that like 1989 to 1993 network television and like a little bit of comedy central, just like watching like kids in the hall. - Yeah, oh huge. - Huge, huge, and what they were doing was so boundary pushing in ahead of its time. So I think that, I don't know if that totally answers through question, but like I was watching everything. - Yeah. - Like wings on NBC, you know, like just, you know, anything. - What was the thing that compelled you to write like that in math, like like, well, like how did that process, like, 'cause we're minding, 'cause it was all in the book, right? - Yeah, so I- - The books. - So I moved out to New York with my best friend, Jocelyn, and our other best friend Brenda had graduated a year before I said Dartmouth. And so that was, we moved out in August of 2001, and we're just fluddling in with 911. - Oh wow, geez. - And so that period of time there was not a lot of like, just everything kind of stopped. Like there wasn't a lot of like hiring, even getting jobs as like waiters and waiters. It was just hard, 'cause everything kind of came to that. - Where were you living in New York? - In Windsor Terrace. So we lived in a railroad apartment in Windsor Terrace, the three of us. And so there was just a lot of time when we, we were just looking for any kind of job. And that's when I applied to be a page at NBC, and I thought it was like a sure thing, and didn't even get like an interview for that. - Same. - Which was, at the time, 'cause I was at Dartmouth, which was, I loved Dartmouth, but it wasn't at that time known for like its arts. Like I ruled that fucking school. Like there's only one interested in doing like sketch comedy and little comedy plays, and I had like a powerful click of like, bitchy people in the comedy department and the drama department. And then I came out and it was that kind of classic rude awakening where like no one cared at all. And so I didn't get that job. And I was literally like, this, I'm like, shoe in for this job. - What do you mean? You don't want me to be a page? - Yeah. - And so then I just was babysitting. And I, so I was babysitting in the evenings, and my best friend Brenda was substitute teaching in Brooklyn during the days. But we would have this like one hour of free time before I left to babysit that she came home. And we started tinkering around. We kind of like, neither of us were like UCB people, but we would kind of like be improvising the characters of Matt Damon and Ben Affleck. 'Cause we just thought, they were so, they loomed so large in culture. - They sure do. - That we would just be doing impressions of them. And then I think it just, It occurred to us like, what if we did like more of a long form thing where we, it was more about a story about their actual relationship and what are the kind of, like this is we didn't know. Completely. This is the quintessential parasocial, like just, of course, just, and then it then became like not about the actual actors anymore, but the nature of friendship in creativity and competition and when one person is perceived being ahead and at that time, I think we kind of knew that Mad Damon was like a little bit more of like the serious actor type and Ben Affleck was handsome, but like maybe not considered in the same category, like he was also very famous. And so we invented this dynamic of what it was like when they were 21, no one knew who they were before they wrote the script for good old hunting. And I think it, we knew Brendan and I, like we obviously had our own friendship and a lot of like our own feelings about that process, which is as you guys know, like it's complex and it can be like so wonderful that you are going through this with your best friend, but there is the ugly side of it. And there's, you know, when one person's there's just a head and then the other person's dolls out and then that person, you know, so that's what the play was about. I got to play Ben Affleck, which was one of the most fun roles of my life and I, I hope I can come back and play this part. Yeah. You got to restate it. Yeah, I think. I would, I feel like lit. I just, all I want is for someone to be like, for this charity, would you redo it or some things? Because I, I really, yeah, for like 10 years, it was just Ben Affleck and Kelly Kapoor. Those were the only two roles I had played. And they were so different, but that was, that's why we did it. We also did it because it's like, we would, I wasn't in a union. We couldn't like audition in any real way for things. So the French festival, which is, was incredible, was like the only way that we could do anything. Did you do it in Edinburgh? No. The New York French festival. Oh, the New York French festival. Yeah. Let's see, like, for you, like that initial writing process was riffing, which is ultimately what it is. What it is. Yeah. You know? Yeah. And that's sort of what a writer's room, I, we didn't know this at the time. That's what a writer's room was ended up being like. Yeah. That's why it was so fun. When we would do the Mindy project and Ike Baron Holtz was in the writer's room and then also on set because it felt like Matt and Ben really prepared me for that experience of like, hey, let's like riff and character. Um, yeah. So fun. God, I love that man. You are, has he been on this? No. He's not, but I was, we were actually just watching it and I was telling Fraser, we met once on History of the World and he is such a nice guy. He's so nice. And he's so funny and he's so good on the studio and I've only heard you ever say that he's so lovely. We've been around a handful of times, like, it's, he's the most popular person in Hollywood. It's like a Seth Meyers vibe where everyone kind of says positive things. Everyone says positive things and he's like, it's like him, Seth, I agree. Yeah. He's so nice. Octavia Spencer. Of course. Oh, I haven't had the pleasure. I'm not, I'm not either, but she's excited for Matt too. She is. I mean, Matt is, he cackles at Missy pile getting run over by that car. Yes. It's such a good movie and that's a great moment in it. She's so good. Because it's Octavia going, she runs her ever and goes fucking content. Turns on the radio September by Earth, when in fire. It's so, so, so, kill someone so quickly. I said that person had a full life and then playing Earth, when in fire, I mean, that's cinema. Yeah. You know, that's a great, great movie. I love when any horror movie or movie like that, that, like, kills characters as if they've had no life before the movie they've had on stage. Like, now, how are you? Oh. It's just, it's, it's, it's my favorite thing when they pretend they've, they've got no friends family. Anyone that would care them. Just disposable, just disposable. Kate Mara, in the subway, in house of cards, head first. That was a huge moment in that scream. I screamed. In my bed. Yeah. That was crazy. It was good. Introducing M&M's Caramel, you already love, now popped into a totally new texture. I'd say M&M's are one of those truly iconic snacks. They've just launched a brand new freeze-dried innovation that brings a whole new vibe to the M&M lineup. I mean, come on. What's not to love about M&M's by itself? And if it's freeze-dried, I feel like I'm in space. M&M's continues to be that girl. The crunch is unexpected in the best way. Way crisper than you think. Like you bite into one and there's this little pop that you don't see coming from something that still tastes like classic M&M's Caramel. 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Everyone has a good time, and no one gets mad at their publicists for letting them do our show. A lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, not that great. Actually, can you help me shape this? How about we flip it on his head? How about we flip this around? Okay. What is the surprise one, man? Actually, you think as the straight man is actually the one who's acting weird. Adam Scott, this entire time you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show. I would never let go of that. I would never set expectations for something like that. If the universe allows for something like that to happen, I am open to it. I'm always going to accept, you know, Danny McBride, fine. Yeah, it's all this fragile masculinity, exuding. I could smell it walking on the hallway, to be honest with you, as if it's smell. I was like, exactly. Nope, it's fragile masculinity. Ben Stiller, no. I think there's a lot of times out of context, people don't get it, or even know what a circle is. Like, you're like, oh, it's just so stupid. Everyone's so dumb. I mean fake. Right, fake and also not interested or just like, oh, I've got my life, I don't care about your life. And a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. Oh, and by the way, Will Ferrell told us personally he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode, but he's just so busy. Listen to Hollywood Hanbok on the iHeartRadio app Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Fraser's favorite person is you, mine, just tell Kate Hudson. Just tell Kate Hudson, she has a home in my heart. - She would, she would die for, I mean, to be on the show for you. - Oh, the Lord is, the show is Matt's Kate Hudson impression, which is, I love Kate Hudson. - Has she never done this? - No, we, we, we, she's a cultural award nominee, you know, this year. Best way to be whilst flirting. - Oh yeah. - And just be Kate Hudson. - She's a real flirt. (laughing) - She's kinda, like, this is my impression of her. - What? What's the big deal? Who cares? - It's, it's. - That's the essence of her. Like, like, smoking weed in high school. - We're not gonna get caught. - What? - My mom's golden. - My mom's golden. - My mom's golden. - We do, we're gonna get caught. - Fuck off. - She, yeah. - Sort of like a glass and a half of wine in energy. - Yes, this is, you've nailed it. She's really like that. - I love it. I feel her through the screen. Whenever she's in a film, I see my cell phone screen. I'm not kidding. - I am, I'm very surprised, but I also, like, I love this. - Why is it worse? - Why is it worse? - Um, I guess, I guess maybe it's a, maybe I'm not that you see yourself in her when she's on screen. - I just-- - I guess I wouldn't have thought of that. - There's something about, like, her whole vibe, where I'm just like, I just get so, I'm so happy every time I see her perform. - She's the opposite of uptight. - Right. - When I'm around her, there's nothing. And like, you know, this is a woman who like, and this is why I really love Kate. She came up and like, the odds in Hollywood. - Yes. - Right? - On some stuff. - It was not like a cool time to be like, a leading lady, you know, in that time. And she's seen some, I'm sure some ugly shit. By the way, she's never told me this, but like, on the set, like, she just has an old school vibe where she's like, it's a thing where like, when we're on set, she doesn't like someone, she just does the thing where she's like, man, it's fine. Like, she's not asking me to talk to HR. She's just going home to talk to her husband, Danny, just being like, talking shit about them. It's like real school, right? - Yeah, yeah. - She just doesn't, it's like, at a-- - I bet her shit talk is A plus. - Her shit talk is really good. - Oh, it's so good. I bet you both just go around. - And she has a lot of stories. - She has stories from like, like, before 9/11. - Yeah. Like, just famous people she met on it. - Let me tell you what I saw at the chateau in 1998. - Yeah. - Yeah, it was gross. - Yes, early Brad Pitt store. It's just like, she's a lot of-- - It's stuff. - To be hot in the 90s in Hollywood. - This is so tough. - I know, it was nice. It was nice. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - What's coming back to me is you saying on Letterman that you want to sit courtside at a basketball game because you want a player to fall on you. (laughing) - Save it! - You absolutely said that. He's got the bibliography on you apparently. - You got the vocal stems down on the weekend. - Oh my god, that's dope. - Would you send sat courtside? - Yeah. - Of course. - I've had, I've never had someone fall on me. - Because I thought it would be hot. - Even with a cool Lakers jersey. - Yeah. - 'Cause I love sports. - I think you do. - I think you do. - 'Cause I'm like kind of sporty. - No, I do genuinely like basketball. And I love the Lakers. I love Jeannie Bass. She was one of the producers on Running Point. But no one has ever fallen on me before. - What? - You know, it's nice about it. 'Cause when they fall on you, they have to be like, "Oh, sorry, Madame." And they have to pick you up and make sure that you're okay. That'd be sexy if that happens. - That's what you, no, no. Like you-- - Sorry, Madame. Sorry, Madame. (laughing) - You're gonna call you a damn, who's that? - I mean, no, this is, I'm gonna try to recreate those cans. 'Cause they take a lot of like the worldwide pan stuff down. I don't know why. It's just not on YouTube anymore. - They do take it down a lot. - You go, yeah, I just wanna go, to say, "Quartz, I better be a basketball game." And then letterman goes, "That's great." And then, a beat, and you go, "I just want one of them to fall on me." Huge laugh from the audience. (laughing) - What was he, like, what was his reaction? - Yeah. - Is this what Tina was saying? Like, is he, what, you remember this? Like, he would not do the late night show host thing of like, coming to say hi to you before you were on stage. You wanted it to be like, the first interaction you have to be out on stage at the Ed Sullivan Theater, which is terrifying. - Yeah. Like, I can't, like, I need the host to come and say hi to me first. - I feel like what, what was so nice about, like, this perfect, ascent of Mindy Caling was that, I keep referring to you in the third person in the story. - I love it. It makes me feel really famous. - I love it. - I really like it. - I love it. - Plugged in so neatly and beautifully, it just clicked, like, you clicking into like your, sort of like, your renown and your, whatever, notoriety, just like, it just made so much sense that you became who you are. Does this make sense? - It's, it's, I really, it's, I really appreciate it because that time when I was on the Mindy project, I think times were a little bit different. And, you know, obviously going back, there were things that I would do differently, but I'm, I'm happy that it had some impact. You know, the show was never a hit. We were always waiting with Bated Breath to see if we were going to get picked up. - It felt like that every year? - Every year, then we got canceled. Then it went to Hulu, which at the time, it was just like that show about the ghost. Like, it was like, there was a show about, (laughing) - Hulu was the show about a ghost. - It was gonna us. - There was a show about a ghost. And then I remember, and BJ, well, he would, he would corroborate this, I remember. I was like, "PJ, I think we're going to go to Hulu." And he's like, "I don't, what even is that?" (laughing) He just let it, he's like, maybe it's classier to just like, let it die. Like, it's going on to this other thing. And that would have been the classier thing, but I was like, I gotta just keep doing this. Like, I don't know what my life is if I have to say, I didn't want them to win, but I'm canceling it. So we did it, and like, you know, and we went and all of the writers stayed and, you know, and it was, that was such a huge risk. But it never felt like it was the success during it. It was always like a slog, and there was always like, endless, I mean, I don't know, Bowen, if you feel this way, but like, there was always endless scrutiny about like representation and some of it, some of it looking back in it. I was like, oh, that was good. I should have done that differently. And then some of it was like, why are you picking on me again? Like, if it wasn't my appearance, then it was like, the way that the show was casted. And I'm complaining about it all now, and some of it was really valid, but it was just a different time. So it's so grat, I've sound so needy, but it's so nice to hear that. You guys, it made an impact on you guys. Also, of course. Here was like, I mean, we had some funny guest stars. Like, yeah, always. When we was on the show, Jordan Peel, Stephen Colbert. Like, I mean, if it had been on now, for sure you guys would have gotten called to play at my friend. That's very kind. You know, you'd think we'd get these calls. I think, like, we would get a call, and Morgan would be like, I think he's married. And like, no, no, no, Matt's not married. He doesn't have another family. And then, like, then we'd meet your other family. Exactly. Yeah, you went through trials and tribulations. We just watched you break up with Brian Greenberg. Oh, Brian Greenberg, what a sweet man. What a sweet heart. The husband of Jamie Chung. Yes, of course, real world Jamie Chung. Real world Jamie Chung. How I first knew Jamie Chung. They're so beautiful. Yes, they really are. Great looking couple. And they know how to vacation. Do they vacation well? I feel like when I'm on their Instagram, I've seen them on vacation a lot. Which is not to say they don't work. Oh, no, of course. What's your dream vacation? And remember, Fraser's here. You can make it work. I mean, some kind of, like, I'm on something and I'm on Geary Yara something in a place, a beach-like place. He's, he's, he's, he's, he's making mental notes. Turks and Kicos, which one is that? I'm in Geary. I'm in Yara. I'm on, what's, where, what? He just looked at you, like, no. It's amazing. It's a Turkish and Kicos. How could you say Geary? I know. How could you possibly say? I'm on Yara is Turks and Kicos. I know that for a fact because they went there between writing for Schmagerdune and then getting moved to cast for SNL and I was like, I need a week to myself. What is it? You're right. Here it. Yara, Yara. I'm on Yara. You're, you went there for a week. Do you come from money? Big time money? No, my dad was a farmer on a canola farm in Inner Mongolia. Did he, like, own the farm? No. Oh, and how do, I'm sorry. Are you? How do you explain the theater in your home, going up? The theater, it was not growing up. Hold on. It was later. I'm asking you so you can see. This is like a story about him when she's like, we were. Of course, of course. We were, but simple people. I understand how. And then you're, David, back in being like, be honest. Be honest. Be honest. Be honest. Be honest. Okay. She says we had two Rolls Royces. This is like you being like, my dad was a farmer. He was. He was. Yeah. We were. Pretty squarely middle class. Yeah. And then as soon as I went to college, on scholarship with financial aid and all the bells and whistles, my parents decide to move into a house where they were like, we're empty nesters. Now we're going to do all these like crazy, like pop up now, and they built a home theater that we would then go to. And so in the time that Matt knew me, which was post college or college forward, he was like, well, Bowen's rich, because he grew up in it with a home theater. I just knew he was living off campus with his sister and they had a home theater. And we were at NYU where everyone was rich. The first friend I made, she goes, come over to my apartment. I go, great, what's the address? Astor place. Seven. Astor. Oh my god. I'm in the hotel. I get in the hotel. I get in the elevator. Who comes in? Daniel. Radcliffe. Oh my god. Hi. That's NYU, right? You can never tell. That's just crazy. That's just crazy. So it was confusing though, because you had a home theater, but you were. And I would cop to being wealthy. If I was, I was just irresponsible with my money, and I was like, I was going crazy finishing my first season. in an SNL shooting one season of this Comedy Central show that, you know, I thought was like the biggest deal. Yeah. I had one week off in my entire summer. Was that the Junk laser show? No, no, no. It was, um, it was, I wrote "Fish MacGroom" and then we shot "Norfer" from "Queen Season One." Oh, "Queen Season One." That's right. Yeah, and I had one week off before SNL would start again, and I was suddenly uncastured. It was all this crazy, whatever, like, commotion around it. Yeah. Um, and then I was like, I'm in a book myself, the craziest billionaire vacation possible. It's not quiet at that level. Yes. I'm going to ever send, okay. Please do it. I like to be a rich, truthful, but just making sure that everyone is good, but that's good. Yeah. So that's, that's a nice thing that you did. And I went and I snuck a little bit of acid and I was like, I, I went on the beach and I like parked it on the beach and I was like, I'm not ready for this job. I'm not ready to be on camera. I took a little halftab of acid and then I'm watching Stefan on my phone and I hallucinate myself on screen. Oh my God. And I was like, I can do it. I'm ready. This is such a good drug story. It's a great drug story. The thing about, that, the thing about LSD is it can work. It can work. It can, it got us to a big conflict. It got us to a big conflict one time and now I don't, now I, now I, now I use sheepishly and like, I don't think, I think I'm good on the side of that. I love that story that you were scared and that drugs helped you get the confidence. Drugs and Stefan helped me. Drugs and Stefan helped you. Yes. That's it. Interchangeable. Were you on this trip alone? Yes. Who does that? I do that. I love it. So I have three kids under the age of eight. So I'd like to go someplace that has like a, it's kid friendly. Yes. But I can like, leave them somewhere and then go do spa stuff by myself. You know what's funny? Like I, we, I end up randomly going to, I'm not sure if it's not random. I'm sure I get inspired when I see White Lotus and then I'm like, I want to, I want to go to there. Yeah. But, um, but, uh, two years in a row now I've done, I ended up going to Sicily after them and now Thailand after them. You know what? I respect that. I am not, I've spent so much creativity in my life that I am going to be very basic about vacations. I see people go to Osaka and get a Birken bag. I am going there. Absolutely. And you can too. When there's something trendy, like there, did you know there's a seventh Hawaiian island? You got to go there. And you put, I'm going to go there. I'm just, I think it's okay. We spend a lot of times trying to come up with new ways to be original and you can just go on the, on the, whatever this season is. I'm going to go to can. God, but we're going to have. After this season of, yes, I feel like I load us to my own. Oh my God. It's just my own. It's just my own. It's just my own. It's just my own. I am. Honestly, it's great. It was wonderful. It was wonderful. It was wonderful. We just got really, we just had to like hobnob with like, we read Can Lion. Oh, that's the one with, it's like the marketing. It's like at the marketing and half people. It's like a couple, it's like a month after. It's like a few weeks after, it's just like, all right, you got to stay up till two and go to the Spotify Beach party. It's giving Spotify Beach party with everyone that has the money. It was for work. It was for four years. It was last year. And we see sent us for culture words. Last year to like explain to people like what the, what the fuck were we doing? Oh my God. We went with Kyle Cook and Manipetula and we're now who have now imploded on summer house. Okay. Yes. And Heather Gaye. We had a grand time from Salt Lake City, but it was like every inch of that town is covered in an activation. Yeah. It was nuts. In a way that is fun. No, I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say that. You know what? I'd like to be invited back. I think that, that one is, you can still, there's like, yacht culture is still a big part of it, right? Yes. Yes. I didn't know anything about yacht culture. So I started dating Fraser and then I really realized it really is a whole thing. Like there's people I, our friend Abe knows the name of like every yacht in the world and like who owns it and how big they are. It's like a real thing. Cool. That's the part. I mean, that's where I, like, I feel like I'm famous, but not yacht famous where you're going on like the geth in God or the baseless yacht or like, you know, like Seth, your friends with Seth Myers. Seth is yacht famous. You said this. I think he's always on like a Barry Diller yacht. I feel like he's always there. Andy Cohen told me he went on the geth in the yacht. Yeah, and I bet Seth was there in the galaxy or just there. We should all confront him. We just can, you know, I heard David Jeff in, I think Seth was at the, I think BJ posted the pen gala and Seth was there in the, in the right up of it. They said that Seth was looking, especially handsome. Always. Always. Yeah, but they, they, there might have been something. Why am I saying this about Seth? Why did he get a little? Well, I just really, people are always accusing me of this stuff. I want to accuse someone of this. Exactly. Let's try to accuse him, guys. Hey Seth Meyers, we've noticed all the work. We just, you're looking good. Would you get a fractal? And then? You got a little othera. Tell us. Kymella. Kymella. Well. Little less of that. Yeah, no one can just enjoy a compliment. It has to be. There has to be something behind it. A little accusation. A little accusation. Put them on their heels. Yeah. Speaking of being on your heels, audience is about to be on their heels. It's time to transition to the segment. We are super famous for. I don't think so, honey. I'm Mungus, you together, and I'm back with a new season of the podcast Skyline Drive. And then we can test what draw is the best for your brain, as opposed to his brain. I would expect Indians to age faster, but I did not expect it to be almost a 4-5 year acceleration. That doesn't work. They say it works. I don't know. Listen to Skyline Drive, how to live forever on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. I choose option B. I'm Julie Piñero, and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes, without asking anyone else first. Every time I tried to be alone, I kept meeting people, and they were like, "You smiled at us, not a lot of people smile around here." It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is, and not the lies you're sold about it. So whether you're a solo travel veteran, or you're too nervous to book your first trip, I hope you listen to Solita on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. They're stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to the survivor files with Elizabeth Smart on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If your bookshelf and your for-you-page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. I'm going to have to look up this story, I'm obsessed, I'm obsessed. I'm bestselling authors and your favorite booktop creators to the latest pop culture moments. Nothing is off the table. It's like if you can hide some real messages inside compelling characters, and that is the Trojan horse, whether you're looking for literary deep dives, smart pop culture conversations, or a community of readers who love to think a little too much, you're in the right place. Listen to Pro's Society on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So this is a one minute screen where we just kind of go off on something in culture. I've chosen food culture today, this came up earlier, and I realized, wow, I've never liked this, and I'm gonna explore how much I don't. I'm so excited. Okay, so we have Rodgers. I don't think somebody's time starts. No, I don't think so. I need Bharata. Oh. It's like, that's not a salad, it's a gooey mess, and this is not how I like myself. - She's to be the Arugula is not my favorite piece of salad. - Thank you. - It's not my favorite salad category. And then the balsamic drizzle, no thank you. - Just together, I am not into it. Also tomatoes, you know that I was that kid that hated tomato so much. I told waiters, I was allergic. - Who did it matter? - And I was like, I'll have the pasta with the red sauce again. - No, I didn't want to see tomatoes. I don't like an heirloom tomato. No, the barada moment, it's ooey, it's gooey. It's not for me. I really feel as though here's a list of other salads that you got to get in the stand. - 15 seconds. - Okay. - Little jam. - Yes. - Let me give it a big, I'll put a little jam. - I also want to just say I am having a Caesar revolution. - By the way, talkin' about Julius. I am talkin' about salad. I had a wonderful, oh that was one minute. - Keep going. - I don't think so any barada. - And that was one minute. - Tell us about your Caesar salad that you had. - Today was good. - It was a good Caesar salad. - I had a p-con grill and we were on the NBC universal lot. - Hey, low-key greats. - Fabulous. - Commentary. - We rate commentary. - Blown away. - So good. - We really were blown away. - White tablecloth. - For the good stuff, great stuff. - So good celebspotting. I didn't know they had a good Caesar there. - They have a great Caesar there and the chicken was thick. - Thick chicken. - It was thick, it was thick grilled chicken. The Caesar was great. - I also see the salad is cold and the chicken is hot. - The salad is cold, the chicken is hot. - Exactly how it should be. - We did not have medium well. - It was really, really, really good. And what else? The fries were good, I felt. - The fries were, yeah, the fries were great. You know the fries are good if it's on the menu as pumphrey. - Pumphrey. - Yes. - Yeah, yeah. - And you know, the thing about that, commentary is like, you'll be like, holy shit. You'll see someone. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - You're like, it's not Jack Black. - Yeah. - Like he's talking about. - Yeah. - Is that a minion? - Yeah. - Oh god, no. - That would have been amazing. - So rock and hit a minion at Universal. - Yeah. - That's a little culture number 15. And you throw rock and hit a minion at Universal. - And I bet they would be so hilarious getting hit by a rock too. They're so funny the minion thing. Watch the culture awards tonight on NBC. Prove open. Okay, so that's mine. I don't know. - I've got one. - You got it. - It's so excited. This is, I feel, I can I just, I love this. I feel so happy to be here and say. - We love that this is, this is the perfect vibe. - I love it. - I don't know. - We love it anytime loud. - I knew we would have so much fun with you too. - This is really nice. Okay, I can't wait for this. - Okay, Bowen, are you ready? - Yeah. - This is Bowen Yang's, I don't think so, honey. His time starts now. - I don't think so, honey. That little greasy spot on the space bar, which is usually on the right. - Oh my god. - What the fuck are we doing? Why aren't we, why is there no international law against using the same plastic on all the space bars in every single keyboard in the world? - That's the international law. - I'm going right. I'm going, do I have extra glands on this thing? Why is that the spot? Why does it, why does it go on the right spot? I guess I'm being told that seconds. - You're kind of smoothing it out. You're taking out the texture because of the contact you make with it over time. Well why haven't we figured out a different material? Can we make a glass keyboard? I would love to. - I think something that we can just easily wipe down and call it a day. - I don't understand this kind of, I don't understand this kind of plastic. I don't really have anything else to add, but it's just, I can sound it by the notion that we must all think that we're, it's this one imperfection on the keyboard sometimes that you just, you can't wipe off. I mean, I hate it. Isn't it incredible? We're in space in all different kinds of ways. They, they're talking about landing on Mars and we can't get the thing out of the space bar. - It, it is gross. - It's disgusting. - It's disgusting. It's too. - And you know it came from you. - It's from you. - It's biological. - Yeah. - I don't want to be reminded of it all. It's like a great item and why can't we? It be, I'm not going to clean my keyboard. It should be done for me. - It should be done for me. - Well, we also were saying our friend Aaron Jackson came in and did, I don't think so, honey. The kitchen is always dirty. It's never clean. It's like that with the keyboard too. This is another epidemic. - Epidemic. - This is really crazy. What happens with the keyboard? - And you don't want to admit it, but it's human dust. - It's human dust oils. - It's human dust oils in biological matter. - Yeah. - Thank you. I just had to, I really had to say that. - I check that keyboard, Doug. - Yeah. - That's a little greasy. - What is it giving? - Congratulations. - No, you can't say it, I'll say it. - Here's what I have to do now is I have to go on a website and buy a keyboard cover. - No, you don't. - Yes, I have a plastic keyboard cover and then I have to buy a double-sided sticker so that I can use the cover to the keyboard. - You shouldn't have to do that. - No. - I work hard. - Have Michelle. - I'll do it. (laughing) Okay, wait, no, I really do get really excited though when I take an antibacterial wipe and just go over the whole computer. I feel like my entire apartment is clean. I've never once cleaned my computer. - Oh no. - I don't know why I just said that. It's so disgusting, but it's true. - Maybe tonight. - Maybe tonight, probably not. Like I said, maybe tonight knowing I would never clean it. - Yeah, maybe tonight. - I'll just throw it out and just get another one. - Yeah, the computer. - Yeah, it is. - It is. - Probably time. - It's always kind of time. - Yeah. - You know what, getting that new final draft update. - Okay, can we say final draft is the worst? - What's worst? - I think Jack's for picks. - I think final draft. - Because-- - I used to use KELTEX instead. - Oh. - Because when the update comes, you need the past word and you haven't had it for a second. - Oh, it's horrible. - No, it's awful. The cloud thing doesn't really work. If you want to open it up on your phone, like forget it. We used to use writer duet because it was a Google Doc. - No, fast. - Turn it into our place. - Because you get to go, because it was like a Google Doc thing where you just wrote it the same time. You could see what the other person was typing from their computer. - That's nice. - We wrote our two person drag play night soap. - It was on writer duet and Ben. - It was our man, Ben. - Sounds fabulous. Great name for software writer duet. - Writer duet, writer duet. - So it's made for two people writing together. - Or however many. - Whoa. - Yeah. - Just get me a writer quartet. Whatever the three is. Trio. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Quartet were-- - I was ready to go quintet, sex-tet, all of them. - There you go. - But I lost Trio until now. It was there. - Trio's kind of a wild trick. - Trio's in my mind got the file. - Yeah. - Really good. It's time for our guests to have her secretaries of her mind get the file. - So write it through the cabinets. Okay. This, are you ready? - Yes. - This is Mindy Kailings. Our time starts now. - Okay. People who not gonna door like this. (knocking) (laughing) - No. No. No. You are a corn ball. - Oh my God. - Normal do not knock at me like that. - That's crazy, that is crazy. - Okay. When you knock on the door like that, it just reveals how different our world views are. You think that knocking on the door should be an expression of self? - 30 seconds. - No, that it should just be a functionality. There should not be. Also, what did you think that my reaction was gonna be on the other side of the door? That's gonna be like, oh, that's like a funny person. On the other side of the door, I like that person. They're a real jokester. No, there's only one acceptable way to knock. And that's this. If you're the FBI, you knock seven times and you kick the door down, but you don't do that. When was that first funny? In like the 1920s for like a month, when you could do that and people were like, that's cool. If you knock like this. I cannot, if you knock like that, you're dent in me. - And that's one way. - Wow. - Wow. - And when you reached over, I was like, please do. - You, it's so bad. - It's so bad. - It's so bad. - And then shame spiral for months. - It is what, like you wonder, like when someone does that, like I'm at the doctor, and I just am like, I'm sitting, if you're at the OBGYN, you're sitting in your gown and then you hear somebody knock. - Oh no. - And you're like, I'm not in the mood for this. - No. - Not a fun nurse coming in with the knock. - But you've seen this out in the wild. - You really have? - Oh my God. - I'm not that I don't believe you. - I mean, it's, and I love first A.D.'s. It's a real first or second A.D. - It is so on set. - It's a, it's a version of Malady. - It's a version of Malady. - Malady. - Oh my God. Remember we used to say an old Malady gay? Like a gay that wears a bow. - So this. - I'm gonna tell you who we're talking about after you. You'll be like, yeah. - But like, you know, in this, this is like, it's like the person who does this, accents and we're not talking connor story accents. - No, no, no, no. - Right, when you're like, I love this. It's like a little, a Malady. Like, it's more like, especially when we're in comedy. It's like, there's a time and place for this and this is not. - Of course, someone online pointed out that the only, this kind of knock only happens on film and television. In film and television. Knock, knock, knock. Someone's saying the words knock, knock, knock while they're knocking on the door. That death is so foolish. - Death penalty if that, I. - Parable. - I've never encountered that in real life. - Knock, knock. - Like, I like it when you did that. - Honestly, I kind of like to do it now. - I think. - Wait, did I break the mold? - I believe you, but now I'm like, should you do it? - Knock, knock, knock. - No. - Hey. - You know what I really wanna be? - Yeah. this sitcom neighbor. - I mean, no, no, no, no. - I really feel I missed my opportunity to be on a 90s sitcom where I come in, where I come in like at the end of Act One and bring just the story off-killed or chaos. - I think the problem is you bring this story in. - You bring this story in. - The problem is, is you guys are too hot now to be the character inside. - Stop it, it's huge to hear. - It's not credible, like for you being like, you don't want them to be like. - Incredibly goofy neighbors, knock, knock, knock. - No, the voice, the face, the voice, the face. It's like, I got it, you're giving character actor, but the rest is not giving character actor, guys. - I'm a character actor down, that's fine. I've accepted it. - No, the wave a model is character actor. - That's me, a wave a model. Wait, wait, there's one thing, there's one thing, I lost it. - There's one thing. - There's one thing. - Damn, what is there another style of greeting that you're like, no. - Yeah. - Well, there's not nothing to me. - It comes to me. - It comes to me. - It comes to me. - It comes to me. - It makes my pelvic floor want to run away. Damn. - Hello, Malice. - Yeah. - It's very, and I say this, I say this with love for myself. - Yes. - It's Disney gay. - Oh. - And I'm okay with it. - Yeah. - Can you guys tell me about Disney gay? Because I have, I have a great friend, Justin Noble, who you guys might know. - Yes, wait, yeah. - He's excited about it. - Yeah, I think he's a self-described Disney gay, but he is a person I respect. And he's smart and with integrity, but he loves Disney. He was like writing in the lobby of the Grand Californian. And so I, if that's okay to say, I hope that's okay for me to say, but that's not what it is. - That's not what it is. - I identify as like a semi-ironic Disney gay. - Okay. I mean, you have a, I think Matt and I would, and I would say Justin has a dimension of Disney gay. - Yeah. - There are Disney gays who are a, - Here's my collection of stencils of goofy. And it's like, okay. (laughing) - All right. - And then it's like, it's like for real. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And well, by the way, Fraser says he can't believe I'm dating someone with this interest. - This is-- - Oh, that's fine. I understand. - No, I understand. I don't even know what it is. - Wait, who'd never bid to any Disney? - No, you haven't. - They have. - It's an adult with a head piece, with ears, and a backpack is not something I'll accept. (laughing) - Whoa. - It smells something I'll accept. - Did he set it like that? I was like, I should be ashamed of yourself. Don't make him do that. - I know. - But he's gonna have fun against his every instinct. - That is not the requirement though. - Okay. - No one's forcing you to wear it to wear it. I understand what you're saying. That's what I associate with the Disney adults. - Yeah, but we're not-- - Yeah, you have a-- - That's not it. - You know what though, we can't say we don't wear the clothes because in Tokyo, Disney see you all re-wearing. It was really fun, full head hats. - Because it was January and it was cold. - It was cold. - It was practical. - You guys are Disney guys. - We like to go to the park. - Okay. - We'll leave it at that. - We got a wonderful time in Disneyland Paris. - Paris. - Oh, that's chic. - They let you drink wine there. - As they don't let you drink it in the other park. - Yeah, we think they kind of don't, right? - They're changing their ways about that. - Yes, the California adventure. Hey, I was about to be so boring. Who cares? I'm not gonna tell you like what I know about the rules about the alcohol. It does me like nobody cares. - California adventure you can, but yeah, I don't-- - I know. - Here, let me take it. - Why am I-- - They don't know I'm pathetic already. - It's sweet. - No, I don't want to-- - I don't want to-- - Yeah. - No, trust me, you're better off with the Aman. - Yes. Yeah, we hope that for you. - We'll go to the Aman Yara instead, altogether. - I feel like this episode has been like a wonderful vacation. - It has felt that way. I love it. I'm sad to leave. - I mean, listen, this has been so great. And I really did. I was like, again, we're on the day of the Cultural Awards. And I was thinking about like just how amazing we felt that the camera just panned and there you were. And you've always been one of our favorites. And this has been so much fun, and we just love you. - I feel honored. Thank you so much. It was really special. I hope I can come back again. - Oh, please. You've been put in the regular rotation. And by the way, not suitable for streaming now. - Lulu, which is now, which now has the same parent company as Fox, which is what Mindy Project was on before. And isn't that interesting? It is interesting, you really, you know this stuff, Boen. - But isn't that funny how it moved to Lulu? - Well, he loves vertical integration. - I see you. - He's really passionate about it. He's really, you should've seen him at the upfront. - He was lit up. - He was like, where can I learn? - I love consolidation. - No, it is true. That's a good point, 'cause I was there. Another show is there. There's still an iteration of Handmaid's Tale on. - Oh yeah. - But it's what I was there. - God. - Handmaid's Tale is gonna be like fast and furious. It's never gonna end. It's gonna get like, like many, many sequels. It's gonna be a roller coaster. - Oh my God. - It's gonna be really good. - I'm sure Michelle Rodriguez is in it. She's in everything. And every episode with the song. - Yeah, can't wait. - You don't pretend to send my phone. Don't get it, text. What you got? Hey, Titi, add it up. Don't equal you in me. If you want more of that, stream subtle sexuality in the episode of The Office. - Bye. - Bye. (clapping) - "Los Cultures" is the production by Will Ferrell's "Big Money Players" in my heart radio podcasts. - "Created and Hosted" by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. "Executive Produced" by Anna Hosniay and "Produced" by Becker Ramos. - "Edited" by Hot Dog Sandwich. And our music is by Henrik Versky. - On the new podcast, Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering the ride on his motorcycle. I choose option B. I'm Julie Pignero and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. Listen to Solita on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. - I'm Munga Shategeler and I'm back with a new season of my podcast Skyline Drive. This time I talk to scientists, biopunks, cormugians, blues owners, super seniors, and go as top cryotherapy lab to try to understand this obsession with living forever and what it means for all of us. - I'd say probably start bone smashing. - That doesn't work. - Make you look more defined. They say it works, I don't know. - Listen to Skyline Drive, how to live forever on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you're bookshelf and you're for you page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. Each week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet and pop culture. - Yeah, Munga Shategeler, so Munga Shategeler. - Listen to Pro Society on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 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