1208: TM Europe win the '26 Solheim Cup

[MUSIC] >> It's gonna be the right club, right? >> Be the right club today. [MUSIC] >> That is, better than most. How about it? That is better than most, better than most. [MUSIC] >> Expect anything, definitely. [MUSIC] >> With the novel and Thomas and Hayden, welcome in to No Laying Up podcast. Solly here, in the dumps, and I got the blues going on. There was an official blue tsunami today, T.C. >> It was a very Hosella afternoon. >> There's a little more in there. >> Hosella, it was a blue tidal wave. It was blue from the start and it continued all the way through. For what, there was that format stretch in the middle there. So we'll get into it. >> We're gonna break it all down. Cody is here running the ones and twos. Hello to Cody. >> Hello, happy to be here. And I am actually happy. We predicted this, Solly. Come on, we can't be down in the dumps. >> 15, 13 called it as you heard last night here. >> I think unanimous. >> Yeah, 15, 13, that was not the prediction I had going into the week. But I think we just kind of saw it last night. It did not feel like, it wasn't a dead cat bounce at the end of yesterday. It just didn't feel like it was gonna be sustainable all through singles. We are gonna go through Sunday at the Soulheim Cup. We're gonna look back on the week that was right hand out of some grades. Some interesting press conference quotes afterwards. We're gonna visit some of that. We'll do some second guessing like we do every time on these Sunday recaps after team events and tying an official bow on the 2026 Soulheim Cup. We did not get to watch much of Shane Lowry's 11 shot win. It's coming across my desk at the Irish Open. But we will chat briefly about that. P, solo second. >> P solo second, that's got TC very excited. I know the live bankruptcy filing was out this week, not been a big focus for us. But we are gonna go through some items that Sean Zock wrote about earlier this week as well. So that's our run a show for tonight. Tonight's show is brought to you by Titleist, the number one ball and golf and the number one ball at the Soulheim Cup among the majority of competitors who teed up. A titleist in the Netherlands this week were ProV1 players, Lynn Grant and Allison Lee, the only two players to go a perfect 4-0. You hear tour players say it all the time. It's so important to be playing the right golf ball model for your game. Titleist has several ways to get yourself dialed in from the online golf ball selector tool. Virtual one-on-one consultations with certified titleist golf ball fitters all the way to in-person golf ball fittings. I'd like a soft golf ball. I like a ball that doesn't spend too much and I like a ball that flies lower. 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The guardians have broken contain back here behind us, back here by the clubhouse as well. And yeah, do you want to have your gloating moment? Do you want to have your celebratory moment here? >> I mean, I don't think there's that much to gloat about. They just outplayed him today. I think hats off, literal hats, I took the dumb tool pad off. Hats off to Captain Nordquist, I thought she was class all week. And hat off to Angela Stanford as well. I thought she was, she ran a clean program this week and had some challenges, some obstacles to deal with. And it was like, I really enjoyed this week because it was truly about the golf. There wasn't a bunch of other extraneous bullshit going on. It was like, no, this is high level golf, the women competed well and like the setup was awesome, the course was awesome, fans were awesome, there was no controversy, it was just a good clean week of golf. That's like what we've been asking for for the last five years out of this event. >> I mean, I would ask for a little bit of controversy to spice up tonight. >> Yeah, we had the angel stuff early in the week. We got a little bit of the green speed stuff, I guess. >> A little bit, we tried to drum up something. I don't look at it in the press conference, I turn it into the detective. That was the most press conference questions I've ever asked. But I can kind of tell, there was some things that Angela wanted to get off her chest a little bit, I tried to help her a lot of the way we'll get into some of that as well. I thought Carlota Segonda had maybe the most interesting press conference quote. She was asked by Brenley, I was getting ready to ask this, Brenley Romain asked what happened yesterday evening, what was one moment that was the most motivation for you coming out today? And then what is the feeling to be able to get revenge like you did? She smiled and said, I was really happy to see that I was playing against Cup Show. She's a fighter, I'm a fighter, and I told her, look, great playing. Even yesterday, what she did on 17 and 18, but today, I knew she had no chance. I was like, I want to kill you, which is just, I love that was, the highlight of the day to me was that quote from Carlota Segonda. >> Carlota, she's got that edge, man, you know, she doesn't say a whole lot, she doesn't move quickly, but she moves with decisive action. So yeah, we will break down, we're going to match by match here and do a tiny bit of second guessing. But as I think we'll kind of get to, it just never felt like the US had the horses. It felt like they were pretty fortunate to be 8-8 as of last night. Just didn't love how the draw shook out. I will do some second. We did some first guessing, I think we could say last night of sending Megan Kang out first, sending Angel Yen out third, Megan Kang drew Charlie Hall first, Angel Yen drew Lynn Grant. I think there's a case to be made from a strategy perspective of if you get even a half point out of one of those two matches, that's a win. You're predicting maybe, again, if I'm putting myself in Angel Stanford shoes, you're predicting that Europe is going to go strong in both of those spots, and trying to find a place where I hate to say this way, but Angel Yen can kind of be a sacrificial lamb, she was completely uncompetitive this week. That's not the worst draw. I mean, she got drummed by Lynn Grant who did not even play well today. And then Megan Kang in that opening match, it was a gamble. It was a gamble, and she was a captain's pick. That's a different, different spot than Angel Yen, Angel was kind of saddled with Angel Yen this week. It was a captain's pick for Megan Kang, her putter was extremely questionable coming in. A lot of player with people close to that team that's all they were talking about was how she was not hitting the whole one four foot puts, and it was very bad. It was extremely bad. She had a straight eight foot putt, I believe on the seventh hole today that missed by two cups. And I said to you guys, if I had a single putt that missed by that much, I would switch to the broomstick. If I hit one putt like that, and for that to be a captain's pick and to send out first, it was a big gamble, and it did not work, Charlie Hall beat her three and two, and that was the first point of the board for team Europe. And Megan Bogey, the first hole got down early, didn't lead at all today. I think her only birdie was the eighth hole if I remember right. And everybody was birding the everybody as a dribble par four, and it could not have been a much easier hole, so she literally made, made zero putts all day, and took it to 16, lost three and two. Like Charlie didn't play lights out, but she did what she had to do. She got up early and then she just played smart golf. She birdied both the, both the par five's on the back, and that was that. So you will go through these matches in order of how they finished. Angel Yinn was in Lynn Grant, Grant won this one four and three. This was only going to go one way. I think we laughed at what the odds were on this match last night. I just could not have pictured the world. I think Angel shot five over. Sally told me he was going to throw all of his crypto holdings in this match. And we did not, I know it's hot in these streets. There were no bets placed outside of any jurisdictions that were not allowed to do so. So ignore all of that, everything he's saying that did not happen. But yeah, this was, I mean, Grant, Lynn Grant made a mess of the 10th hole. Angel had to make a par putt from off the green on a par five to tie that hole, or to win that hole, even after Lynn Grant made one of our few only mistakes she made all day. Just to go two up, but Grant wanted easily four and three. Every time Angel got any momentum going, I mean, stepped up after winning 10, stepped up and hit a tree. There's not any trees out in that golf course. Hit a tree up. Five, three left of the green. It was, it was tough and she had a tough time on 11 this week. That was the one where she, she wiped it into the water that I didn't see that there was water on that hole. Yeah. My first glance. So if you weren't following this leading up to the Soulheim Cup, Angel had a back injury, missed a significant portion of the year, came back rather quickly, also had, I believe, an illness that contributed her losing somewhere in the realm of 35 pounds. And she made one start prior to the Soulheim Cup. So I think 81, 76 and put Stanford in a, in a difficult situation of figuring out if she needed to, you know, was Angel going to be on the team before she made the captain's picks. Once she made the captain's picks, Lily of Vue ended up coming over who was somehow in, I believe, worse form than Angel. Angel was in. She was here as the alternate. And ultimately, I look, I think we, you know, we talked about this for like the final month leading up to this, that this was a potential problem. And that problem played out. They're able to get a half point. Thanks. So you let me know in the four ball match. But there just was nowhere to hide Angel today. And, you know, if whoever is playing in that match flips that one in Lynn Grant was quite beatable, the way the match shook out, the US would have retained the cup. So it's got a burn even more than to know that I mean, I guess my question is like, why, you know, I know Angel would say, Hey, I, I, I earned the right to play. And I'd like to. But if you're not informed and you're not fit to play, it doesn't seem like it's just, I just wonder why she wanted to play so badly. It felt a little bit dare I say selfish. I, I, I really like Angel. I, and I think she could have been played at a role for this team without having to hit the shots. I think she could have come over had a ton of fun be the team mascot. I mean, she literally dressed up as evil con evil on Saturday and dance around on the tea. I think she could have done that. And they could have found somebody in better competitive form to take that spot. So I don't want to put, you know, we'll have plenty of blame to kind of pass around on the US side. And we're always going to look for a scapegoat. I don't want to put all on Angel who like was in a great mood all week, tried her damn hardest was like very seriously into it. And I'm, I'm feeling for it in this moment. And I know, you know, something, you know, you can make a case for it. You get in a competitive situation. You know, your body is just going to react to it. Your health is going to bounce back. Your back feels better. All of that. And that just didn't, didn't play out, but it was not hard to see this coming. And these were two very evenly matched teams coming in even like everybody kind of knew, hey, the margins are thin here. Yeah. So unfortunate there match two. So the match in between this one, Allison Lee went out second. She drew Esther Hinslet from the European side. Esther had Allison on the speed bag earlier. Got it all the way up to four up at one point, but she kind of fell apart a little bit on the back nine. And Allison got hot as we've seen in the Americans do on this back nine. He then stepped up one the 16th hole to get it back to all square. Then steps up birdie 17. And this was already look the way the board was shaking out behind her. It was already looking like I do not see a path to victory without Allison come back and winning this match. And she did it. It it was a state of execution for the US ultimately, but or no. Her first soulheim cup as a mom, we talked about this last time. She was eight, nine weeks pregnant during the 2024 soulheim couple was able to say anything publicly about that had to sit out morning sessions because of morning sickness. It was back first. I correcting the record as it has been pointed out. She's the first American mom to play in the soulheim cup since 2010. Apologies to all the British and European mothers out there. Yes, that was a yeah, my hand up mistake for me on that one. To step up and go for no. She had mentioned she had a two and five record in the soulheim cup prior to this. It was I just did not. I'm not sure she saw career renaissance like this coming back. She mentioned she joked I think on Friday or Saturday with Tom Abbott that she was a co-worker of Tom Abbott's as of like earlier this year. She did come to the booth earlier this year in West Coast now and is is dominating the soulheim cup. It was just awesome to see Alison birdie six of her last 10. I mean, you know, four down after 11, three. It's crazy. What a like what a crazy come back. It's impressive. Cody, look like you almost had something there. No, you guys covered it. Yeah. In the fourth match. So that made a 10, nine Europe, the fourth match was Nelly quarter versus Mimi Rhodes. Nelly played fantastic. She shot about minus seven. She was three up through nine. Kind of this one was never in doubt. She ended up winning this one four and two. It made it 10 to 10. But again, there was a lot of stuff going on down the board that made it clear that this was not tied at this point. A lot of us made out of Nelly not playing in the afternoon yesterday. Not feeling well. I think that decision was ultimately ended up working great for Angel Stanford. They went three and one in the afternoon yesterday. Got a lot of points out of it. And Nelly came back in the four spot and won her match decisively today. Hard to hard to argue. That would not be where things went wrong for the US. Mimi played well. Like she didn't play poorly. Nelly just won. I was I was take I was a little bit surprised with captain Stanford's press conference. She was asked about the way that the draw shook out. And she put a lot of emphasis on getting the players that played a lot rest, rest heading into Sunday. You know, like just sending them out later in the draw. And I was a little bit surprised to hear that. I'm like, it's like a 11 10 45 minute difference. Maybe it felt a little bit maybe overemphasizing an hour wake up difference between, you know, 11 10 versus 12 10 maybe or 12 12 10 versus one o'clock. And aren't they all do they all not all arrived together also? Yeah. The first Friday and Saturday they arrived a single team bus all at the same time. Today there was two waves. So the early I think the first one E five whatever shook out to be 30 minutes came in an earlier bus plus those who wanted to do physio warm up things like that here. And then there was a later bus to can I use this moment to just shout out like Cody McBride has answers to almost every question on the LPJ tour his depth and knowledge of everything going on in the LPJ tour. You know, well, something will come up and he's like, Oh, yeah, this so-and-so is dating so-and-so. No, that didn't work like he just has he's got all the strikes too. Okay. Oh, you know, you know, all the balls and strikes within like the level of detail of which the inner workings all kinds of off the record stuff like you got that that man has got you all right. So I just want to shout out your massive efforts this week as well. And then this is where it starts getting weird after that one like it's two it's two two basically it's 10-10 there and then all hell kind of breaks loose. Yeah. And this was this was it just never looked good in this section of the Borti. It's it's the they know they split the first third of the board match five is Allison Corpus and Nana Kurtz Madsen, but it ends up being Andrea Lea and Nastasia Nado who settled their match next. That was the fifth point Nado won that one three and two that brought Europe up to an 11 10 lead. She won the eighth and tenth holes to get to that two up leads. She was just extremely solid all throughout. Andrea did not have the best soul hum cup and then Nado ends up making a great birdie from the back bunker to close it out have a pretty great moment on the most the loud one of the louder holes you can close out of match the 16th and put a key a key point on the board. We'll do some grades and everything later but Nastasia Nado goes three and one in her first soul hum cup. It was great to see stuff ending on 15 and 16 on either side because that's where all the juice was on the golf course in 17-2. You're looking at match five last night and I have to again I would not have seen a path to victory that would have included Allison Corpus losing to Nana Kurtz Madsen with how Kurtz Madsen looked on Friday going go into and sitting all day Saturday. Allison is kind of who you're one of one of your horses you're riding a lot and it was not her best golf today. Nana Kurtz Madsen made a great birdie on 12 to go to up drain to bomb on 14 to go three up. Got a little close there near the end and and Madsen ended up winning that one two and one but that was the 6.6 match that was 12-10 Europe at this point it's like all right you kind of got a little you should I've the tweets I was writing out were like six things in a row have to happen in this way in the US can't lose grounded in any of them and it just that's never a fun tweet to be sending like 3 p.m. when there's a lot of matches still in the golf course. This was one where I thought when when Allison like you know Allison got down early she was two down early she lost the first hole got it back to one she was she was one down like she she birdied seven birdied birdied eight birdied nine birdied 10 like she was like all right like this is this is this thing's close and then Nana just played well she played really good golf she birdied 12 and then birdie 14 and like that was I mean she was three up by that point and thing just got away from her before it could really like it was just I think like Allison didn't lose that match I think Nana wanted props to her for she was probably the biggest biggest question mark coming into Sunday for the European side yep yeah I think we we spent a fair amount of lead up time and time this week kind of questioning a little bit of of the depth of team Europe and that was a massive question mark heading into today and that ends up being like the decide like if Angel would have set up day and the Antikurts Madsen does not then the U.S. is celebrating tonight and Europe is not and you needed needed someone who had a tough start to the soul I'm cupped to to bounce back and perform and I mean they they got point and we'll get to this as well but they got wins out of I mean two players sat all day yesterday for Europe Julia Lopez Ramirez sat all day as well do I have it for Julia or or or that's right I would make sure I had that fact right I forgot that I could also pronounce it wrong she wins her match against Yelimi no which was match seven Yelimi was absolutely incredible in both her four ball matches but just did not have her stuff I believe she was around plus two Ramirez only shot about even it was not the best match out there but all you got to do is beat your opponent Julia's got some some some putting issues I think that have been well documented and Mr. Short put on four to take a lead it was kind of a pillow fight but she ends up winning that [BLANK_AUDIO] three and two gets a great moment there on 16 as well. And all of a sudden, it's 13, 10, you're up and it's really, really, really not looking good. And you've got these two rookies in a row. Like you got the question mark in Kurtz Madison. And then you've got Nastasia, Julia and Ladi all in a row. The three rookies right in a row against Boll and Mimi. Yeah. But, oh, yeah. And then, but right against like the meat of the order in Alison, Andrea, Yolini, Austin Kim. And it was, you're not counting getting no points out of that group. Like, that hurts. Well, that's the thing is that, I mean, we could sit here and dice it up. And I know both captains, both teams are going to do it. But the fact that they decided to send out their four rookies back to, back to, back to, back. And like, have the faith to put them in the heart of this order. They didn't try to hide any of them. I think it speaks an awful lot to the faith that, that Anne had in her team. And she mentioned in the post round, it's like, you know, I think over time, us being here for three days now, we got to know this golf course. We got to know how firm, these greens are usually pretty firm. You have to hit the ball high here. And she used her captain's picks to find people. Stand for the ball out in her pressure. So high. Like that fit this golf course. It wasn't really about form or history, playing team events or anything else like that. That's what it was. And I think that came through when she needed it most. Yep. Just for the record. They, she had rookies in four of five. So when, Amy, then, then Cricks Madsen's not a rookie, then the doe, Ramirez and Wode were the, were in order there. But yeah, it was, it was, it was loud there on, on 16 for Hulia. And it was the, the, the, the fiesta broke out just like it does. When you grab a high noon, tequila, celtzer pack or a vodka, celtzer pack or a vodka iced tea pack. 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But Wode bounced back birdied 16 to get back to that two up and guarantee at least a half. She goes on to, to have the 17th hole, which is the point that that guaranteed the clinch because at this point, Carlitos Segonda was dormi in her match or how do you say it had kept showed dormi or was dormi, whatever she was dormi, the leader is dormi. They had the half point guaranteed there. That meant Lottie Wode's point was the clincher for Europe. No birdies on the front nine for Austin Kim in the route to getting four down, but did the gave it late charge had the hand to the ear. That was right there on 14. She rolled in. I mean, really good, good approach and then great putt just buried it right in the center and then yeah, gave, gave the big, you know, hand of the ear and Megan Kang was standing right behind that green as we're a few of the other US players. And yeah, that was like, Oh, okay, okay, okay. And then because we just seen some miraculous stuff happen Saturday and that having a little fresher in your head was like, this could happen. This momentum could happen. The US has done well on the back nine. It didn't last very long, but there was that moment that it looked like things. We did get that moment. We will always have that moment. Uh, so that had decided the Soulheim Cup, uh, what was still out there, match nine, Lauren Cogline against the on a McGuire. Can I just go ahead and real quick? Yeah. That decided the Soulheim Cup, right? But that only got team here. Lottie's point got team Europe to 14 points. Yeah. They needed 14 and a half points. Right. But Carlotta was dormi. So it was guaranteed to have. Correct. But I, I, I, my thing is that all the team was out there with Lottie, like fully knowing that's where it's at. But like Carlotta was battling just beating it, beating it, beating it, beating it down. And like by the time we got done, she had all the fans and everything that's great at like amputee theater that we're in right now, but like hardly any of her teammates. It was a draw with a lot of range. Yeah. You know how she could have gotten there her. You could have had the moment to win. She could have come in a little faster. Yeah. Yeah. There we go. She had to put on 15. She had to put on 15 to win to clinch it as well. And then also, seems like Europe cares about this stuff way more than anyone else does who gets the clinching point. But you're going to throw some shade at the end. Yeah. Yeah. I get a little bit. I mean, this cares. They want. There's a team effort. I thought it was all about the team. All the sudden, yeah, one time Europe is not about the team when it's about claiming they've got the clinching point. LC. Again, we're going to go through everyone's record, but LC continued to just absolutely stun. She beats the owner McGuire, two and one, which doesn't capture how like not close that match was. She played great. Leona was, you know, very, she had the, she was getting up and down. Like, she did not hit it well. I think she was 50 yards behind Lauren on the first hole. And it kind of kept up the whole day, but you have a credit for sticking in it. Like she, that should have been probably a five and four match if, if she doesn't make some putts. Yeah. As as mentioned, the highly anticipated match between Jennifer Cup Show and Carlota Saganza. I mean, Saganza just, Saganza just came out absolutely firing. Cup Show did not look good early on. I think Saganza birdied what? She birdied two. She birdied three. She birdied four, five and five. She birdied four holes in a row to go four up through five. And then it was nine. Birdied seven. And if you, if you, I'm going to, I'm going to read the quotes again, because they were absolute highlight, you know, she said I was really happy to see that I was playing in the Cup Show. She's a fighter. I'm a fighter. And I told her, look great playing. I mean, even yesterday, which she did on the, it was amazing on 17 and 18, but today I knew she had no chance. I was like, I want to kill you. Like, that seems like one of those quotes is going to be in the big block letters in the team room, like the next goal. For both teams. Do you have anything you'd like to say to Carlota? I respect your game. I've always respected your game. I respect everything you bring to this event. I respect your career. I hate the way you go about it. I think it is borderline on sportsmen like to play as slow as you do. But I have a ton of respect for you. And it's even more when you're going to come in and say something like that. Like, I think if I was to give a critique of how the competitive side of this event shakes out, it's a little friendly, like a little too friendly, like a little bit of, I don't want to say it this way, but I don't know how other way to phrase it. Like, I like to see, like, feel more disappointment from the US side. I like to feel more consequence. And it feels like Carlota is like one of the few people out of the 24 that plays in it that treats it like essentially life or death in terms of their golf career. And I respect the shit out of that. And like, it's the only one that says things in the press conference that are not like what you were supposed to say. I'm going to kill you. That was what you have no chance I'm going to kill you. I have a lot of respect for that. Is there something that this fair? Yeah. No, that's totally fair. Is there something that the Spaniards teach with regard to putting your your hand or like your grip up against your glove? Because like Sergio used to do that. Like the just that whole, you know, re-gripping. Yeah, I don't know like that. Carlota might be the new Sevy. She's got the spirit of Sevy pushing the rules a little bit. The great woman, Carlota. I think that gamesmanship. Well, I think that's all part of it, right? I think the slow-play thing is, you know, it would be one thing if it was just like specific to the soulheim cup, but that's just how Carlota plays golf. So you're like, oh, okay, it's not really that gamesmanship. It's not even malicious. That's how she is. And, you know, to her defense, she's talked about like, I know I need to get faster. Does that mean that she's actually getting faster? No. No. Like, but she knows like she'll do it when people start finding her, stroking her. And that's something that the LPJ tour is trying to take on. But for this event, I think it's something with the Spaniards and we joke about it all the time. Like she grew up watching Sevy. She knows exactly what it is. She's like, she grew up watching, you know, Sergio and Jose Maria and like all these guys go out there and just like, this is their moment. And it means so much. And now you see who they are like being trained and brought into that same thing. And it's it's incredible to watch. Can you imagine if Sergio said, I want to kill him. No, I couldn't imagine what the press would do. Probably, I mean, when she said that today, like she got a round of applause from the media center. Yeah, I think it's one of those things. Saw it. Everybody here plays on, they're all playing on the same tour. They all travel together. They're all friends. Like, the rivalry is kind of stoked one time every two years. Even the international crown, you can't. You'll never have moments like this. And I wish there was more. But I think in order to do that, you'd have to figure out, you know, make a stronger ladies European tour with individual events. and have an opportunity for more people that aren't, you know, L.E.T. players that aren't also L.P.G.A. players getting onto these teams, qualifying onto these teams. But I don't know. Well, it's like that whatever I'm describing, Carlotta's got it, in terms of like the fire for it. And like I lutsched like I love beating the Americans. How old is Carlotta now? And I think I think Mel has it too. Oh, Mel, yeah. Mel Reed who's assisted captain, but like kind of embodies that. Yes, I experienced as well. Carlotta's 36. She got another so high minute or anything. I think she's got at least one more under. I think so. Suzanne had it. I mean, yeah. Yeah. Suzanne invented it. Yeah, but still have it. And maybe a little too much on that side. But yeah, I hated that draw for Cup Show. I think she probably hated it too. As soon as she saw that, like, oh, shit, I didn't bomb most after that. And I, I was waiting for Carlotta to give to hit back with with a Vamos or she played it very even keel today. She did not get over and assassin truly. And I'll say this is that I the way that yesterday ended was a dream scenario for the United States team. I don't think you you can have your moment. You can celebrate your moment. Don't maybe we probably didn't need the social media aspect of celebrating that moment yesterday, because that was Baltimore board material for them today. And that was the first thing that, you know, the European team talked about. We were like, yeah, and guess what? We won the cup. And now we get our two cases of beer. We weren't celebrating on Saturday night because that's what we were all excited. No, the job wasn't done yet. Now we can go do it with our shit. Mel did say to like the team bus. That's a sacred space for us. We don't have any social media. Which also like, yeah, so like the caddies and stuff we're drinking yesterday afternoon, either totally above board. If you ask me, like, that's part of the fun of the environment. They brought the cases. I don't think like the players there wasn't anything celebrating last night. They won the cup. I think I don't think that matters. I think it's the perception. I agree. I agree. But I think I don't, you know, there was some some things floating out there. Like they should have celebrated last night. I think they were celebrating the momentum. Sure. I think that's totally fine. I don't think it's like the beers on the bus was a bad idea. I think it did like porch, you know, you know, portraying that and putting that out socially, which might go, you know, it might be an LPGA thing. Yeah, it's probably didn't help, but I don't think it was overall deciding factor. But so that made it 15-11. Segonda's point. It was all over by then. Lindy Duncan. Her match against Maya Stark. Lindy won that one. Three and one. Props. Lindy. Props. Lindy. And like, look, you can brush that off as that match didn't matter. And that's Wikipedia match. Like no, she had the red on the board for the majority of the day when they needed it. That was a match I was particularly worried about from the US side. She won that one. Three and one. She was very impressive throughout. I mean, she got she was four up through 10. Like at a time the US just needed to be like, all right, there's one match. I do not have to worry about. She shot around minus five today. And I think, you know, it was a it was a questionable captain's pick. She goes two and one. I think puts those puts those questions to rest. And, you know, we'll look, yeah, we'll give him some grades here as well. Final match. Rose Zhang against Celine Boudier. I'm so excited. We're standing on 16, barely. So just we saw almost none of this match on TV. Yeah. It's all tied. They tied every single hole in the front. And until Celine Birdie or Eagle 10 rose tied it back with the birdie on 11. And they stayed relatively neutral. I don't have it right in front of me. They were exactly. Yeah, they were tied through 15. And then yeah. So we're, so we're going to our standard on on 16, fairway. Carlota just just won her match. Celebrations going on. And Celine looks over at Mel. It was Mel, right? Cody. No, it was a headwall headwall. He looks over at headwall and she's like, do I have to keep playing? Like, I just, like, no, she goes over. I have to finish. Yeah. She's like, I don't want to finish. Like, this is, I don't want to hit more shots. We already won. Why do I finish? And like, yeah, you have to finish. You got to play through the whistle. You got to, by the way, uh, meanwhile Rose is like tenacious and trying to really go on my Wikipedia. Yeah, she's like an eagle that all. Yeah. It's like, okay, eagle. The next one par in that birdie 18 to, to, you know, or, yeah, burnish finish, uh, two up. It was, it was nuts. I don't know what Celine is. I know we're going to get to grades. That's where you start at. I think grades wise. Um, it just is not good. And this is the second or third cup that we've seen for Celine, where it's just a bad performance all around. Last two European Soulheim cups. She's 0 and 7. She was 0 and 3 in Spain. Uh, she did go two and two, in Virginia in 2024. But yeah, 2023 in Spain. She was 0 and 3 and then she was 0 and 4 this week. She's not exactly like a bundle of energy. It's easy to pair with others. So we don't know it. Yeah. I want to give somebody the benefit of the doubt, right? Like, oh, we don't know what they're like in the team room. We don't know how it is, you know, with the other players. But I'll say this when she's playing with a partner and when she's playing alone, it looks like she's having a miserable time. Zero fun. Zero, which is hard when you're not scoring any points. At least be an energy person. But where's Leona? Like, doesn't look like she's having fun, but she looks like she wants to kill somebody. Yeah. That's delightful. So that's it. 15 to 13 Europe. They win the Soulheim Cup back. They win yet another spin since 2015 since the US has won a single session, which is, which is very, very, very tough. So you mentioned just some interesting kind of quotes from the pressors afterwards on the US side. They went first, mentioned Stanford just saying she wanted to get some of her top players some rest. Did give us the line that you just insert. I think it comes with a US captaincy. When you start a presser, you just have to say Europe made more pups. They played great. I think the stats would probably support that. She made an implication in one of her quotes that, you know, let me see if I can get this exactly right. About the greens being different than what they were expecting or saying something. She didn't want to say it. She didn't want to go right up to it. So I don't think we played bad. I think we just didn't make enough pups. If you listen to everything I've said, Europe always put better. I don't know why. I still don't know why. I mean, I have a good idea, but I'm not going to say it right now. Apparently, I didn't get to know the superintendent as well as I should have. I think they played really well and you have to compliment them and we gave it our best shot. I was not going to let that one go. I said, reading between the lines, what you just said, we're green speeds different than what your team was expecting coming into this week. And she said, yes, for sure. Even when we showed up in July here, they were faster. And I don't think it had anything to do with the rain either. Now, saying that it's my responsibility to get the team ready. This is the one thing I'm kicking myself is that I just didn't keep pushing. You know, we've got to figure out how to hit our pups a little harder, which is really difficult to change the way you put it. So I'm a little frustrated with myself that I didn't drive that point home. But I mean, that's, there's nothing we could do about that. And the team knew that. I mean, nobody complained about it at all. It's me saying this right now that I wish I would have maybe hammered it home more like they're going to be slow. They're going to be slow. They're going to be slow, but we don't play on greens this slow usually. So yeah, it's funny because like right before that, she was talking about how important it was to hit the ball high and how Lynxie was out here and how firm it was out here. And then yeah, the slowness. I could understand that more if it was super soft. But they weren't soft. They were just a little slower. And it's, you know, I know it was a, it's mids, you know, then, and then Captain Norris was asked the same question. By your flooding young journalist as well. So let me see if I can get the exact quote here as well. You know, I asked, I said, you know, Captain Samper was in here earlier and mentioned that she thought the green speeds were slower than what they were expecting coming into the event. I asked if that was a strategy element. If they had a say in those green speeds, she asked, who said that? I said, well, Angela did. So okay, we're in Europe and in September, I know we know how the weather can be. I know how hard, how hard Neil and the core staff. I've never seen a golf club in Europe in the in the world have such a large staff as he has even having feminine members of it. We worked really hard. I always said going into this week, we would try to showcase women's golf. I'm not sure I believe a lot in setting it up a way to fit Europe because these girls play the same golf courses weekend and week out competing. So going in, we came here in July, as we know, it was a very hot and dry summer. So the course played a little different then. And then we almost, we were just trying to make sure that the greens didn't get too firm at that time because there were some holes in the wind that it was hard to hold. So if anything, it was just trying to manage the firmness. But then obviously, it's been raining a lot in the past couple of weeks. Then this week, we saw a lot of rain. So if anything, they were probably just playing a little bit softer than what we had thought coming here. That's obviously the way that we can't control that. It's such an amazing course, such an amazing venue. I was really cool to see the way we started, started on the normal third halt. She goes into the routing blah, blah, blah from there. So I think there was a way of Angela saying this that would have sound whining. And I did not think she was. Oh, she took ownership. She took ownership of like the greens were what they were. She could have landed on them. Not, not, not think provided cards during the scouting trip, which she talked about on our spot. She made a joke about that. I totally hear exactly what Angela was saying. I think Anna gave a pretty fair answer there as well. Yeah, the greens were a little bit slower, but the Europe had the team of Europe had nothing to do with that. But it was a theme talking to the caddies, talking to the players. They just struggled with the pace of the greens. I don't have a lot of sympathy for that of spits. several days into the competition did not have figured that out and to have had practice rounds to have even here for a week figured out there was a lot of parts that they had to make that they did not get to the whole. And there was no, there's no excuse for that. Like you had the, yeah, it is different, but like that's what everybody was playing on. It's also no. I don't think I was applying foul play, but just to be clear, like there was no gamesmanship with any of that. It's also fine fescue to pretty different surface than what they play a weekend week out on the LPGA tour. Yeah. So, you know, she, other comments, she kind of, you know, kind of made the point to Angel, you know, kind of didn't throw Angel under the bus, friendly bromine, asked her about, you know, what, you know, what the situation coming at the angel and mentioned that she had gotten the half point, didn't mention that it was all you leave me. No, that was possible for that half point, but also had interesting mention that they didn't, that she felt hurt them. They didn't have strokes gained data access during the week. They had an in Spain. They had the resources to be able to track how players were playing on a shot by shot basis in Spain and didn't have it this week. And that was something that she wished her stats team would have had access to. So, yeah, she was very complimentary of Justin Ray and his efforts and everything. And I think the fact that it was eight eight going into, correct, going into the final day says says it all. It's like at some points on the players, right? Yeah. I did dig on that one, too. She said we were missing some pieces, like that and in the week of Spain. I was hoping she'd give us some, give us some strategy things, but she said, I told him, she told Justin Ray this because I know he's working with Jim in the Ryder Cup. I told him exactly what he needed to do for Jim. He thinks it matters, thinks those things matter. Justin was a huge help. He got us the point. She kind of smiled when I was like any, any particular, I asked any particular reason you didn't have that resource. And she said, yeah, we just didn't. So that's why I couldn't be honest with you. Now, like throwing his former employer under the bus. I did not throw my former employer under the bus, but can I say something? This is a second time we've said in a lot of a couple shows about what think we're lucky that the team got to eight eight yesterday. The American team is according to rankings, stroke days, stroke gains data, everything. They are a much stronger team than the European team. They outrank this European team across the board at every level. There's strokes gain data is better than the European team at every level. There's no reason why this is the result that we have. There's no reason why we should be happy that we got to a tie after each day. Something is wrong here. We are missing something dogs. I don't have the data right in front of me, but I remember when I went through it earlier, I remember going through it on the US side and just being like, I think we talked about this on the preview. I was like, I don't know if the second best player is here, guys. Like I don't know how much is that being weighed by Nelly being far and away the best player. But we said Lawrence. Yeah, we said Lawrence because you get down, like you got down to like the bottom of the roster. And they have like 95th ranked stroke team player on the team. We have no midfield anymore. Yeah, it's it gets weak pretty quickly. The odds going into this week were dead even on us versus Europe. So and I get that that would say on paper like the US team is slightly better and Europe has a home field advantage that's offsetting it from a from a bookmaking perspective. But it felt evenly matched. It just felt like just in fact, the US had enough people step up again. They're like, you know what I mean? Like lucky to get to eight, eight based on how they played is how is how I felt. It didn't feel like from the beginning of the week to that point. I guess I don't know. Again, that's kind of why I predicted Europe to win today is just like it just felt like that was the best they could have been through through two days. And it just felt like Europe was going to outlast. It felt like a it's like a transition year for the US side, right? Like no, the first one without Lexi. You've got likely asterisk Tally, Yarimero, you know, likely a few other young ladies coming up. I think the European side, you're going to have Jenny Bay, who should have been here. Yeah, you're going to have a couple more Spaniards probably on the team next time between Carolina Shakara. And you know, so I like I think there's going to be a lot of new blood in the next in the at Valhalla and then especially, you know, in 28 or was that 30 when we're wherever we are back here in Europe. But like it's going to look radically different versus I think it's been mostly the same the same core for the last eight, 10 years. And that's where, you know, Megan Kang Pick was like it's based solely on her Solheim record, definitely not on her play coming in. And part of the deal was just like there was not that player beaten down the door that was like very clearly way better than her that should take the spot. I think they were kind of scraping the bottom of the barrel with some of the some of the picks and Lindy stepped up and you're hoping Megan steps up and wins that match today and you look like a genius. And it just it just did not happen that way. But I I this is I did not feel going into this one that the US was like a decidedly more talented team. I think I think the US also probably has to be kicking itself. I think you'd want four captains picks, not three. Europe had had four. And I think that's, you know, it was the last we always say that. Oh, yeah, you want more you want more. I mean, I think you should have six. If you have six, let's see who who ended up points right if you have. Angel was angel was second in points. Yes. Holy crap. Yeah. That's a problem. And you're probably still picking Allison, but just having more flexibility. Yeah. Allison was last to qualify. We'll do like a look back on this and what they can change for the process. Cause I agree. Like looking at angel. They're the way that the point system currently works for team USA is kind of finicky. You get a ton of points way early on too. It's like the weighting needs to change for a little bit more more recency. But this is the first time in the reason why bring it up. And this is going to open it to a bigger conversation that we can have later. But like, this is not the match. I love the sewing cup. I love this. This is not what is this is not what we have anymore. This is not this competition is not very reflective of the best players in the women's game anymore. We have to we must tours, sponsors, people who care about this must find a way to have a match with the rest of the world. Not the international crown. I know 12 on 12. It is not going to be a PJ tour co sanctioned president's cup thing. That's not going to happen. It's not in the cards. We have to figure this out because we're going to end up with, yes, this this was competitive, right? This is a competitive cup. But like, when you're not playing against the like the best players in the world anymore, what is the excitement? You know, it loses a little bit of the of the lost. I think it's you just need the other thing too. Like I think it's you could make the same argument with the European team and some of these. I'm not even saying this. There's like team USA versus international. Yeah. I'm saying like, let's rest of the world versus. Let's make this, let's make this count for something. And if you want to make it like a more of a revenue generator, well, the ladies European tour won the Soulheim Cup. So they get the opportunity to compete against the international team and they get half of that proceeds. And if you remember this, this was brought up several years ago. No, it was called on the hot mic being like, well, I don't, I don't really want to go get my ass kicked by that. That's great for her. But I mean, I, I, I mean, I think it, there's an easy through line of the Ryder Cup comparison. Obviously, what this event was, was modeled after US first Europe. It just makes it easier to pick up. I kind of, I, to me, I don't, it doesn't matter to me that it's not the best players in the world. I think there is a competition with a lot of equity in the bank thing. People have memories of and I like watching these two teams go at it. And, well, why can't I have, why can't I bring up that idea and being like, yeah, we can have both. Totally. Can't we dream and have both and not have it be a negative to the Soulheim Cup? Not with the case that I'm going to make later on, which is by the Soulheim Cup every year. We can't, I mean, that's, that's the stinky part about it is that like, we're always told, well, you can't have that because you already have this thing over here. I'm like, well, why can't we have both? It seems that like, we have new events popping up all over the, all over the place. Sure, we can figure out something. I mean, again, they have the international crown there. It's just not serving its purpose. Now, yeah, I guess I just don't know what the hook is, even if it's like all of the west versus all of the east, I think the east is still like, well, then, then why do you put Australia, West versus East, they're technically East, right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think just generally speaking, the, the LEDs in an interesting position over the next couple of years as well, like the, the PIF funds a lot, like bankrolls a lot of their, their finances, who knows what's happening with that, moving forward with both the international series and the Saudi, the Saudi ladies, all that stuff. I know there were rumors or, you know, or like legitimate conversations being had three, four years ago with, with regard to LPGA and ladies, European tour merging that didn't get across the finish line for a variety of reasons. But yeah, like, yeah, like I think, I think we could see globally the, the ladies game evolve and, and change a lot over the next half decade. Yeah, I think it's just it's it's hard to lead like this event, we've been to a lot of women's golf events. Like there's no environment like this. Like it's just, it's so cream of the crop. And that's where, again, my case was gonna be, women's golf careers are shorter in general than men's golf careers. And there's not the event you're describing in the off years. Like the reason A, the rider cups, I'm a big play the rider cup every year guy. A big reason for that is it's too big of an event. Like there's just too much around it. Like the planning and organizations is difficulty. And this, this event is big, but it does not feel too big to do every year. And I think it would be, it's a great opportunity to keep the storylines, keep the throughlines, keep the rivalry, keep the momentum. Keep the memories fresh. Like I just like the, they went. And I feel strongly about this on the women's side 'cause they did it back to back in 23 and 24. And I just remember all like everything just that much sharper. Like I just, it felt fresh and it felt like I could not wait, you know, to get to that event. And then it just, it, you know, the momentum dies back down and then coming back up like I, it felt like I had to get caught back up to get back into Soulheim Cup mode this year. - We don't even know where the next one's gonna be on this side of the pond. And that's, that's kind of crazy, right? And four years and four years feels so far away. Whereas if you had it announced for 2028 and that and they were here today and could figure out best practices and say, hey, we love this. We didn't like this. This was like, you know, just keep that momentum going. Like you said, the other one I would do and I'd make the same case honestly as the Ryder Cup. But I think that the Soulheim Cup can do more to differentiate itself from like the Ryder Cup format. And I would say, especially for European ones, an opportunity to grow the product, grow the interest in this half of, I don't know, half of the audience of this event is in the US, I would say. I would do what the president's Cup does. You take day one, the Friday and you separate it into two days. You play four sams on Thursday or four ball on Friday and you play it in the afternoon here. So people, like a lot of the great four sams matches, all the four sams matches happen in the middle of the night in the US and it's almost unwatchable for US people. Regular two days, extra ticket gate revenue for the tournament day. There's so many practice round days. And I know it shrinks the gala and all the opening ceremonies and all that. I'm fine with that for an extra tournament day. Yeah, it's really gonna play it every two years and it's only three days. I just think that's too much jammed into a tight period of time. There's strategy that comes with how you rest your players, how you start them. But I think the LPGA and Lays European Tour could be a leader in changing that part of it. I think that has been successful in the president's Cup front. And I know as something that wants to see this event and women's golf grow in the US, more opportunities to view it. Actually on television would be a pretty important one. I will give them credit this year for this was the most cohesive set of broadcast windows. Like it was on golf channel the whole way and they went whole way wire to wire and they kicked Irish open over to CNBC. So praise progress on that front. Yes, there's still ways to go, I understand. I saw we were filming early in the week, but I saw Jess Corda asking where the opening ceremonies and announcing of the first matches, I think that was all streaming. So there are ways that you can still elevate it with the bumper coverage, but overall you're getting the golf when the golf is on. Which I think is a great thing. I will say we watch zero coverage. So there's not going to be a hamster damn section. I haven't heard really anything. I don't know if you guys have. We heard a lot from our friends in the UK who got a heavy dose of Morgan Pressle and mainly the US broadcast team. And they're like, oh, okay, we get it. Like this is why you guys have been fighting over on your side. So because similar thing like when the Australians get our feet or whatever they're like, oh, okay, we get the commercial little bit of stuff now, right? So it's funny, when we get everybody else's feet, we're like, oh my goodness, this is amazing. Like I love it. It sounds so different, it's cool. I did watch a lot on TV today just in the media center and there were some interruptions, but I got to watch a non. I didn't get up like going to Bathroom like three hours. Like I got back to just take a rest from the rain and I was like, guys, I'm staying in here. Like this is awesome just to watch all the moving around from there. But if I'll say to both of you guys this week, you just been absolutely stunting in your greens. 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I had never really gotten deep into their sweater games because I live in Florida and I don't wear that many sweaters. One of the sweaters I was wearing this week, let me look it up here. It was, I was blown away. I'm like, this might turn me into a sweater guy. So I think you got, yeah, you pull off sweaters pretty well. What's it called? It was the Barrett, the Barrett crewneck sweater. It's got like these little ribings and stuff. You had that shit on if I may say that. You're sending this ad read into something that only NBC could pull off. Just playing through, playing through. Sully jumped on these because, of course, we got the new bird action going on. Drew, I don't know if you can see that or not, but I know that'll get you excited. That looks great. That's what we do a 90-minute show and we have three adverts in the whole thing. Yeah, so feel free to compare that into our friends at NBC. You guys ready to do some grades? Yes, we don't have to link it. No inflation, either. We've had, there's a word, the word for delicious in duches. It's lecker and then they're super lecker. In Sully called way too many things as we super lecker. Got a great list of super lecker. Super lecker inflation. There's been super lecker strobe waffles, cast angles. What else was super lecker? The La Perla, the pizza place. You guys got to check that out. You're ever in Amsterdam, the Opel Tarts, that's locker room at Vinkle 43. Those waggy sliders. Yeah, I'm gonna come after our video comes out for me. I'll give you guys, I get a lot of emails about the Amsterdam tips. I'll give you a full guide. Our guy Chad Coleman is there today. I think he sent me a text that said, how the fuck did you ever leave this place with the day I sent him on there? So we'll get that together. Yes, I saw a call a lot of things super lecker. There was some inflation, but I was very excited to be back in other ones. Celine Boudier, oh, four and oh, what is her grade feeling? Yeah, she failed the class. I think that's an F, an F across the board. It's pretty, pretty simple one. Carlota Segonda, one, one and one. That record does not match the feelings around the golf course. Carlota is one of two heartbeats of the European team and Carlota gets an A. I don't care about the draw. I don't care about the loss. She is this event. You took so much energy out of Cup Show, like Cup Show, there was no way she could have won that any match today after what Carlota, she won yesterday, but at what cost? You cannot replace a Carlota Segonda, just like you cannot replace a Gary Burtier. Exactly right. So you're giving her? I'm giving her an A minus. I will go A minus as well. Some of the golf away from the big moments was like less than perfect. So to prevent the grade inflation, I'm not going to go full A on there, but did what she had to do. Yeah, I agree that one, one and one is selling her a little bit short. There's a little bit of fair amount of that as we go through these. But Lynn Grant goes four and oh, her and Allison Lee both did there. The ninth and tenth players to go four, oh and oh, or at least four, oh, and oh, and the Soulheim Cup. It's a coarse courtesy of Randy Robles, the Elias Sports Bureau. Randy gets an A this week too. Randy gets an A as always, Lynn Grant gets A plus. A plus, she went O and four two years ago. So to come back and go four and O and battle it out, singles notwithstanding, battle out against some of their best players and do it in the form and fashion that she did it. Maya and her set up best, like they just had fun. And it was shown through, they were true. They were the two leaders of this team this week from an emotional and energy standpoint. I think Carlota was like the steady heartbeat and they were the adrenaline and the joy. I will go A for Lynn. What else would she need? She need to go five and O for an A plus. Longer player in the team play and Lynn was not great today. Just drew a great, great draw with Angel. And I think a lot, if I put her match or golf today up against a lot of players on the US side, she very well could have lost. That's all preventing you from an A plus. That is nitpicking from that. It was not A plus golf. It was A golf. It's a very, it's a very, a self-friendly grade, Cody. - Yeah, it's an A for me. I loved it, loved every minute of it. I love Lynn in this environment. Her and Maya have such a great thing going together. She's the competitor. The number one thing they hate is losing. I love seeing it. But man, it feels like every time we have a Soul Heim cup and we're talking about it. talking about Lynn Grant. It feels like we're, you know, in the States, we have these national conventions for politicians. And I get real fired up about this speech and hope and change and everything. Like Lynn, you got to come through a little bit on me, man. Like you got to do something in your normal week to week LPGA tour career because we want this Lynn all the time. This is what we thought we were signing up for. You got to do something. It's crazy. She's 61st in the world. She's made less than half of her cuts this year on the LPGA tour. Only two top tens. It's, it's truly maddening. But an example of like just the team stuff that makes it super fun, right? Of a truly gelled and multiple different formats and just clearly had a ton of fun and stepped up when they needed to. So as their hints, let went to end one. She won both of her matches in team and then lost singles match after being four up at one point today. What's your great for Esther? Esther is a tricky one. What do you think, Cody? She's going to be. I think she's getting a B for me as well. Yeah, Sally. Sally was not in some of the pace of play stuff. I saw some of that. It was one bad incident. It was not habitual, bad, intentions like Carlotta. No, I don't think that's it. Esther's awesome. Yeah. Esther is like really, really good. The issue is Esther makes like buckets of birdies and all of a sudden she like makes a turn and get to the 10th hole. And she's like, oh my goodness, I forgot how to putt. She runs out of gas. She just watched this like, oh my man, this car crash is coming. And it happens to her in individual stroke play events. It definitely happened to her today. The reason why, you know, I thought about giving her like a B minus, but I'm refusing to give minus or plus is everything's just going to be straight across the board today. She's getting a solid B. Like, how do you get to be four up and lose one down? You know, and I understand major props to Allison Lee for playing fucking awesome, but you got it. You got to find something. I think the fact that you've given her a B that speaks to her, her, her body of work this week overall. She got some nice draws overall. And it was heavily up early because Allison was, was especially struggling. It wasn't like she played incredible. So I'll go B as well, because it's very, very nice. So I'm cupped it or did her job went two and one. Charlie hole. I want you to lead this off because one, three and one. I am going to give Charlie a B minus for this week. Okay. She record looks worse than it is. And we're going to get to lotty. And I'm going to, I'm going to fight very hard on that one. She played five matches. When five matches got done in lead match. She was not the stronger player between her and Laughtie and a lot of the team golf. And I didn't get to see Saturday morning for sure, which I know didn't go well, but earn Laughtie drew mathematically like the worst possible spots they could have drawn. Their four balls were excellent. I think they shot eight and nine under in those and lost both of those matches. And I know the record looks ugly. Got it done out of lead match today. Going all five and happening to play playing good golf and happening to get the top players on the US side is not her fault. She did a lot of what she could do. So that the B minus might even be light. But that is, it will look back at one, three and one and think she had a bad soul. Heimcup. When we checked the Wikipedia in two years. And I want, I want on the record that I do not think she had a bad soul. Heimcup at all. I thought her partner was even stronger. I co-signed everything you said. I do wish they would have broke in her and Laughtie up just because I do want to see Laughtie. Yes. I want to see Laughtie how she matches well with someone else. Very difficult. Charlie, they're going to continue to have difficulties pairing Charlie with someone. I think that they're grooming, grooming Laughtie to be that person. And I agree with you guys. It made so many birdies and it's hard because you don't really know who you're going to go up against. But, you know, I think there's other intangible things that Charlie, you want her to bring to this competition that she never is going to. She's not going to be the leader of this team. She's going to be there. She's going to be present. But, like, she's not going to be the raw, raw motivational one. You know, you're expecting her to come here and do her job and get her points. That's like a class participation part that, you know, it's great if you do that, but you're not getting points in your grade for that. For that, I'll give her a C. She's the second highest ranked player in this field. I kind of expect more. But again, you can't control the draw all the time. Yeah. Nanakurts Madsen, we can move a little faster through some of these Nanakurts Madsen one and two, but got it done in her singles match today after resting all day Saturday. C plus, I'll go C. C big massive point, upsetting Alison Corpus. It was bad early, but was with Celine as well. So, I think that one works. Julio Lopez Ramirez, one, oh, and one, she passed the class. She did what she was asked of one or singles match again. It wasn't necessarily pretty match. I will say, I'll give her a B. Yeah. I'll go right along with you. B. I'm not even grading her. She passes. She goes along the next whole time. She gets paid. Okay. Leona McGuire, two and two. Leona so tough to grade because she's like, she's greater than the sum of her parts. She's, she's a, she's a really useful tool in the toolbox for the European team. She certainly has limitations as far. Like, I think the weather certainly both helped her with regard to, she's definitely a mudder, but also herder with regard to like, it was softer out there. You're not getting the rollout because she kind of relies upon the ground game a lot. I would give Leona a B. She's, she's just, she's rock solid and does what she needs to do. I think she's, she's such a great player. She's such a good tool in the whole box for those, for some matches. I'm giving her a C. I just didn't really fear her this week. I kind of got to go with my gut when I saw her against LC. I'm like, I think LC's winning that one. Yeah. She paired up with Esther and, and to beat Andrew Lee and Lyndy Duncan, who weren't very good in Friday, four sums. She beat Jennifer Cupchow and Rose Zhang in Saturday morning four sums. Those were the two wins she had in four ball. She lost pretty badly with Nostasia yesterday afternoon against Rose Zhang and Austin Kim, just two and two got, got, did what she needed to do, but it was not like the, I fear you Leona version of the other spare. That's fair. That's fair. No, but I'm pretty confident in saying that I'm with you. Saw you see that this is going to be heard last. So I'm cup is a player. They could with the talent that we see coming up. It is more and more evident that she is the, the best player in the world from where she has to play golf from. Yeah. And that is it's such a disadvantage compared to her peers now. And it'll be a big ass disadvantage at Valhalla for sure. Yeah. It's, you know, there's a little much to ever come. There's glimmers of like, oh shit. That's Leona. No one else is going to pull that off. And then all of a sudden, you're like, it's when you expect it to be like, every other moment, you're like, oh, like that's, you can't like she's hitting like six. I would say Leona, Leona's like a, she's like a bottom of rotation picture right now that you know what you're going to get out of her when you, when you toss her out there every five days and you're going to get like the bullpen's not going to get worn down. You're going to get right or six call it out. You want to talk about a role player? I say this is the last time cup is a player because there will be come a time when Leona, not very far away probably when Leona will be a captain and will be the most motivating and inspirational captain in a very, very long time. Like, I can see it now and it's crazy is that I walked with Lisa a lot, her twin sister this week and like seeing them and how they kind of banner back and forth and get things going and they, they chirp their sisters like, I, you know, I think of my twins when I look at them because there's little things that they do to get under their skin and like, oh man, I see like her sister being like, no, like, come on, man, like, what are you doing? Go out there and do this. Like, go. And bringing that to a team room where they can control it like, man, I can't wait, I can't wait for that. One other thing just going back to some of the captaincy stuff. Another thing that came up a lot in the press conference tonight from the European side was transparency. They said that word for, I think three or four of them must have mentioned that word and I thought it was really interesting of like, it hints at something, you know, maybe from, from last go around or from Spain with with Patterson, where I like, I think they would all tell you like that. I don't think she was the most transparent captain. So it seemed like that was a big priority for this team was, hey, let's, let's feel like we have more buy in and feel like you have more trust than us as players. That's Tassia Nado, three and one as a rookie. A, I think that gets an A. She gets an A. Yeah, blue. She's got way better than I thought she was going to play. Yeah. Yeah. It's really phenomenal. It's like one of the better captains picks recent memory. She did, you know, did get some on the favorable draw side, I think, but you can't, you can't nitpick. I mean, Andrew Lee and Austin Kimmer, like that, they're, they're very good players. Andrew had a tough time. Yeah, I will get there. But you can't you can't overly critique three and one as rookie wins or singles match today Even just playing four times as a right now. Yeah, that's a lot. I think She drew it. Yeah, she played basically the same group of issue of people from for the majority of the week But got got the job done and got done The only of the match they lost was to Rose and Austin Kim on Saturday afternoon But excellent debut. So high for her. Did you give a great Cody? Sorry if I Erden Nostascha. Yes, I did. I agreed Mimi Rhodes two and two B+ I'll go B for she teed it up four times I think those those you're great in fighting because her boyfriend's a listener She's not a listener She doesn't listen to podcasts, but no, I think Obviously she lost to Nelly today, but that's a big that's a big ask going out there I think she she actually played Nelly pretty pretty tough overall Well, I just again four time going out four times and just having that Doing doing such a competent job the first day that they send you back out the second day Twice is that's that's huge. That's where this energy levels and all that actually joining the B+ then that very strong case that You know, she had a very important impact on the Solankov and a very very very tough draw on singles We're Nelly with seven under Maya Stark three and one loses a singles match to Lindy Duncan But had a great run with with Lynn Grant. I will start it. I will give Maya Stark an a minus the same boat a Monis she was a plus through the first three days Losing this one that today bumper down a little bit, but Was was the better player that between her and Lynn Grant? I think and that's brown. We're brown where I have to grade them Cody agreed a You know, I ride from Maya at every turn though. I understand that What the one thing we mentioned it today She needs what Nelly went out and did Maya needs to go out and do like you got to go take these people down in singles and I think Maya would probably say like She wanted it really bad, but like by the end of the round. She's like, I'm fucking tired, man Is this week over yet? Yeah Lottie wode one three and one I'll give Lottie a I mean, she's a rookie where we're kind of I would give her a B Again, she she played she played a role in playing with Charlie She teed it up for or sorry five times, which is remarkable She won her singles match she the clinching point and Just generally speaking it seems like she's like this is the worst soul. I'm cup I think we'll see from Lottie ever and she acquitted herself well I'm gonna give her a B+. I thought she was excellent. I know the foursome's matches didn't go great I just one three and one record is the one that ran a little I ran my little analysis like you know I'm going to her performance was the one that stuck out the most in terms of what she contributed specifically to four ball That what she went up against in four ball just truly being about as unlucky as you can get I had no problem with them Going as much going out as much as they did You can't do much about who you get paired up against you got it went out got it done in singles She's a player to be feared. She's an excellent excellent excellent player. I thought she had a great played great golf I know the foursome's did not go great that is what she's getting ding for but I will I will ride for this one As a another symbol to Charlie of like their her record did her play did not get reflected in her record And I'm glad glad she got that point on the board and the clenching moment because she had a good soul. I'm cup She gets to be I agree with everything that you guys said she isn't a very tough position thankful to have this rookie soulheim cup behind her because at no point dime Is she treated or have the expectations of a rookie people expect her to be no such a seasoned vet and everywhere She turns up thinking that she has already been there and done that just based off for record in the very short professional career So far that no but I mean rose You know famously made that spain team after being a professional golfer for like two and a half three months She was rose was afforded the the availability to be to truly be a rookie and make rookie mistakes Laughty does not have that and I think she she did everything that was asked her think you'll like this comp I'm gonna work with me here because it's not apples to apples. Yeah, but like Rose is or I'm sorry. Laughty like in this one is like the shortstop that Like is gonna give you a ton of war like the the stat line isn't gonna get in the war But you got to find somebody to hold down that position like it's gonna go five matches and took some really tough matchups And like it's gonna wear it on the chin and like look the batting hitting stats don't look great But like you can look at some of the rookie stats like you can look at Nostasia and you can look at Some of these rookies we talked about like they got to go play first base They don't have to worry about defense and yeah, they're gonna mash a little bit and I feel like you're just sub tweeting Randy right now But like you got to find something to play that role to go those five and to face those matchups and hold hold their own as well They didn't the points didn't work out great, but like that could have gone very differently. Yeah, I think and that's that's kind of the comp I'd make yeah, it's like the receiver that's got to go up against the guess they're getting shadowed by the best corner in the Lees. Yes, everybody else is getting open because you know because they're bracketing him. That's that's wonderful. So Let's be quicker on the US side. What about you want to do a they're captain now or wait for the captain's are coming after at the end Okay, so yeah, Alison Corpus one and three Give her a c-minus I think c-minus is good I think one decent session as reflected in the record need Needed Needed that singles match today like that was one that the US just could not afford to lose in any way and it did not did not work out for him She was pressing. I mean, I'll give her that she was it's just When you don't have like control over your golf ball. Yeah, and or your putter this you press and you get in trouble And she got caught with her hand in the cookie jar and it's a seat Lauren coglin three one and one Big fat stinking a I would give her an a I think like she's quickly becoming One of if not the best rider cup player of her generation. So I'm sorry. So long cup player of her generation And I cannot wait till the day that she's a captain. I think she'll be awesome at that too. Like she's just she looks she She does everything subjectively and objectively in these in these In these events to just like it's what the event is all about she embodies the spirit of it I think I Could not have ever predicted this level of success for her in this event as of several years ago and I couldn't Have how nervous I used to get watching her like try to make eight footers to like make cuts in majors like several years ago Versus the confidence and and the levity that she plays with in this event in particular when everything gets amplified a ton She looks like she's having the most fun of anyone she's smiling She's talking to us in between holes like and she's just feeding people's brains in and just is doing it with such a It's not an arrogance. It's just as confidence that it's just awesome to watch so proud of you Lauren A a big stinking a you know if you'd gone undefeated it would have been a plus Did have the one and she played great in the match they lost and nothing she could do about the four ball aspect of that But a for Lauren cog one. Yes, congratulations Lindy Duncan two and one B plus for me One of the singles mess that they desperately needed um You know wasn't wasn't great in the early early go of it But two and one is a captain's pick controversy captain's pick. I'd say she she did the job I'll give you that yeah, I'll give her a B. I'll give her a B. Tony. Yeah, B. Oh, I didn't say I'll see Also in it, but yeah, Lindy I think very good showing um More than likely first and only yeah, Solheim Cup. You did did very well got on the resume too. Yeah, let's let's do it Megan Kang one and two I'm giving her a D. I'm giving her a D plus Try she gave it all she tried. Yeah, she tried She guys I get like what do we hand out participation awards she had some good moments and four ball in the afternoon On Friday that led to a victory So she doesn't fail she did not fail completely, but she didn't do anything beyond that She was a captain's pick for a reason to show up and do a specific job The issue is when your game no longer fits that person who accomplish those things in the past There's something Wrong that doesn't mean anything negative about her she should she should be a part of every single team. I just don't know Until she gets to start playing better golf. She's not a player She can come come be an assistant captain come be uh Support whatever it's just it just didn't happen The putter is just bad. You're giving her an F. Yeah, she gets enough. Okay, the putter is extremely bad man We were warned and it's worse than the movie are warned Austin Kim one and three Yeah, it's the yeah I don't have a lot. I didn't watch her play a lot of golf in person, but Was not somebody that could could be relied on for the US team brought some energy. I was really stoked about Austin Kim After watching her on Friday, and it just didn't at times it felt like the moment was Not too big for her. She was just a little unprepared And that just takes experience and She's a hell of a player. I hope she's she'll be back on more teams and she'll learn from this and and be up the swing. Yeah. Oh, Nelly Corda 2, 1 and 1 B minus give her a B. She was her. She was she was sick evidently. She I think you're right. B is fair. I mean I'm great. It's unfair to grade her against like top Nelly. Um, just her overall performance is probably around to be. Yeah, this next one's gonna be tough. Yeah, for sure. She gets to be, um, again, you expect an awful lot from her, uh, but we know like when you're very good at individual golf that doesn't add all equate to any sort of team diamond. And I think they do a really good job of providing everything that she needs in order to perform her best. And sometimes it just works out and sometimes it doesn't. But that's what it is. I think she did. She did what she needed to do. Jennifer Cup Show 1 and 3. God, I don't know how to do this one. I don't either. She gets to see. I was going to say C minus for me. Yeah. I mean you can't you can never take away what happened yesterday afternoon, but that that's it. I'm going to give you a passing. We're not, uh, you know, you're not getting a D and like we're around on probation. Came to office hours. You did some work again. Like it's she's stunk for the most. That's kind of what it is. She's a mountain tent. Yeah, it, um, that's what made the conclusion of Saturday so surprising was just she didn't play well at all. And it kind of came out of nowhere, but it's just hard when the US team has two, two women that were putting hands to ears and doing taunts. They went two and six combined. I just was overall did not help them easy one here. She failed the class. I give her a give her a D because she failed the class. Like you don't pass with a D. Allison Lee 40 and O A plus a stinking plus. Congratulations to Allison. A treat to watch was just extremely extremely reliable. Back up against the wall today, four down, you know, has her kid here with her and just a lot, lot going on. As this the 10th player ever to go 40 and Ellen saw handcuffed a stinking plus she passed with or she she graduated with honors. Yes. I agree with everything. You mentioned thing from Tom talking about her working on the broadcast team in Vegas, this year. I talked to her at the end of last year and was kind of like, what are you doing? She's like, I honestly, I don't know. I'm worried about my game. This isn't really going good. I'm worried about, you know, keeping a card. Am I going to have to go back? You know, there was a time where she completely lost LPGA tour status, who was playing full time on the OET tour. You know, and then got a win there. And then that springboarded her into a little bit higher events and then finally came back around. She was seriously worried about it and that the trial in Vegas was legitimately to be like, I'm retiring from playing. I want to be a full time mom. Let's try this broadcasting and she was really good at it. But I think what it also reminded her of is like, you know, I might really get a golf still and I really have a fun time doing it. Let's figure out how I can manage this whole thing and just seeing her out here with her like she's a very active mom. Yeah, she's not just dropping, you know, him off and leaving or whatever like he's in the thick of it. It's awesome to see. Yeah. And I mean, gosh, the broomstick has been awesome for her and her swing just looks absolutely excellent. Look, she knows exactly where the ball is going. And I hope it lasts because it looked as sustainable and good as it possibly could. Andrea Lee, one in three, D. I love Andrea, extremely nice person. I think it was a D. I think it was she was costly. She's so much better than her results. They've been the last year and a half. It's frustrating. Yeah, agree. Yep. You'll let me know one one and one give her a. This is so hard like a B. She got like 110 out of 100 on the first two tests. Yeah, but she was like the most important match out today. It really that one really, really stung today. Oh, B plus for me because it was it was absolutely epic for the first two days and MVP of the entire like US team. I know she only played two matches, but like nobody played better golf than she did for the first two days. And like the reason why Laughty and Charlie's records looked the way they did was because of delimi's performance. So it's hard to knock her that hard on today. I'm just very surprised what we saw today, based on how the first two days went. So I'm B plus and might be a little friendly because that single's loss is definitely the sting. Cody. Yep. Angel Yen 0 1 and 1. Angel didn't get a grade. She got she got expelled. Yeah, angels. It's a force like getting an F. I was going to say just incomplete. She did not. She didn't complete the course. Exactly. She failed. Pat, you know, turn in all of her paperwork, everything like that. Hey, I think it, I don't know, I have a problem with incomplete because like part of what I'm grading here is detrimental is that you had an opportunity to give up your spot and give your team a better chance. And that that goes into the equation. That is that's why expelled her so it's an under permanent record. You're asking something of somebody that no, no one would ever do that. No one would ever, ever do that to be an automatic qualifier for something and to be outside of to be cleared through doctors through physical therapy through everything that says yes, you can go. You're asking somebody to say no and turn down something that that that she dreams of doing because of that that's such a massive sacrifice. I think it's unreasonable to hold that and say that's what she should do. Now she got to do better than this. Yeah, kind of what I'm saying though, like it wasn't like what is, yeah, what is doing better. She's held me and cleared, why is there an alternate here? Like that, that's the part to like, all right, this is bad enough that we have. If the, if the play is that bad, she's not going to go like if we are bringing an alternate here, there are massive question marks that you're putting a captain in a really difficult spot of how to use you like I don't think it is unreasonable. Significant period of time off have no quality starts leading up into it and not entertain the idea that yes, I qualified based on a different golfer qualified for this than the one that's right in front of me right now. This is our fourth soul home cup. It's not like she's some rookie that this is a fleeting. This is our fourth soul home cup and she's 20 and she's only 27. And it is. It's you right. I wonder if the decision, obviously it's a somebody told her you have to play a tournament before soul. That's why she played FM can't just come back for only soul. Or set it out and come back. I can't even I don't even know what the next event is in two weeks, but probably Arkansas or some. It's a very whatever the plan was and I'm sure we'll never hear what that those conversations were actually with her of what the agreement was. But I don't saw you you know these teams a lot better than I do have you ever heard of the names in the envelope being exposed and warming up and like taking part in reps like you're in training camp. I just happened. I don't remember where I think this happened on the men's your men's side and there is there's more to there's off record stuff as well as to what went down here that like we're not privy to share that also is going into this. This great of like not good. It's not good. It was not good and I think angel I handled it all with class. I think it just would have been a lot cleaner if they were able to to bring someone else. So I maybe. Maybe it would be a little bit different if they were to got brought any of the two who I really think were closest points or captains picks. They brought Lily who like wouldn't likely would not have played better. No. And that's like that's what part of the problem is for sure in this you know that. When you're looking at the cards that you're dealt in trying to figure out what it is. Okay, you want to take angel or are you trying to win this thing or are you trying to give a participation trophy or sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's got to do some better. I need to do some better sourcing of what I've heard about that situation before I report that I know it's not fun to be the guy. Nobody likes to got to know something doesn't say anything, but you have to be responsible in these situations and I don't feel good enough to like report on how that's all you let it rip man. Come on. We'll come back to that. Let me put a pin in that do a little bit more digging to get some sources to verify what I heard there, but what I heard there doesn't look good on angel side that goes into to the grade and the decision to play in this. So final grade, final up Rose Zhang two and two. I'm like, former two and B minus and C plus B minus right here didn't draw the hardest matchups didn't wasn't an alpha did win her singles match after sleep basically quit on it and sleep was. Rose was someone I wanted to see up front today like that's one that I'm like I want to see her in the first six. Yeah, it just doesn't seem she's not giving off the vibe that she. like in killer mode at the moment. You know. Yeah. So I'm going to start this by saying first, I'm sorry to to team Zang for saying this. But I think the the excuses of where Rose was at in life have to have to stop some time. Yeah. Correct. Rose has done with college. Rose has had multiple months now of backplaying full-time professional golf. We were got very excited when Rose finally qualified for this team that she's supposed to be like a captain of, you know, one of our leading point getters. When she finally got enough points to do it, she kind of laid some eggs on events leading up to this and then she comes here and it's like, you know, it's one of those things. I understand that Rose is the like silent assassin. She doesn't like to show a ton of emotions. But she's going to have to start doing that, doing something more, showing up, being more prepared, more fiery, getting people into it because she is a, she's the motivator. Which is why I struggle a little bit with like pairing her up with Cob Cho. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Maybe we're unfairly blaming her. They're not they're not like bringing out the best you can see there. Yeah. Yeah. I think it maybe you start, it's probably too kind to just say, all right, well, let's start 2027 with a fresh slate for Rose. Now college is completing the rearview. You're going to be healthy, hopefully with kind of something that things have been lingering. I'm like, we'll go from there. But yeah, we've come down a little bit from 12 major prediction. The injuries are like a real thing. You know, she didn't play Canada because specifically for that. Yeah. And she knew that she had like, she was going to be a captain's picture. She's told that ahead of time she didn't have to. Um, the Guardians are having a heck of a lot of fun in front of us. It's still leaving the grounds here. But Captain grades and a Nordquist give her an A get her on the get her on the team for ball. Yeah. I got nothing to nitpick. I don't think she was like an amazing inspiring captain from one of gathered. I give her a, give her a B plus. Like she won a home soul heim cut by two points. Like kind of held surf. I'd say, um, did did the job? Well done. I didn't blow me away. It wasn't like that's the blueprint for captaincy necessarily. We're working off like 0.1% of the information. But that's kind of from where I'm sitting where what I see from her. Yeah. That's that's all fair. Cody. Yeah, great for Anna. Hey, I think she did a great job. She's not the raw raw type. But I'll say this is that I think she is one who has a best understanding of her strengths and her weaknesses. She found vice captains that she has all the trust in the world and can fill in those gaps that she knows that she does not. Mel Reed being the motivator. The let's go out and mess them up. Caroline headwall who is like the drive and the termination of look at me and is also like, you know, a sweetheart to everyone. And then and Van Dam, who like took her home event and was like trying to get them to understand the gravity and how big of a deal this is and they all know they come from a bunch of different countries and they dream of like this opportunity of being able to host it and they lived through that with her. I think she did an an awesome job and I hope after she thinks about it that she does it again because I think it would be really cool to see her captain in the States because yes, she's European, but she's lived in the States for a long time. Very successful college player and based out Arizona, I think it would be cool to give her another shot. Amen. Angela Stanford. I was actually impressed with Angela this week. I was too. I came in thinking, all right, this is going to be between the captain's picks and just not getting a lot on the front end and I think she was dealt a tough hand and handled it with grace and did everything she possibly could to get this team over the line. Yeah, I give her a B. I thought it was that's fair. I don't have a lot of critiquing of actual moves she made. I would say get a stats guy as your right hand man to help with a bunch of stuff. She had one of the best that you could ever imagine with Justin Ray. Managed difficult situations. Like you said, I think this is the part where we tear apart captains usually and I really don't have a ton to say. It does feel like it was a captain of a different generation versus Anna is very much a bridge between this generation and the next. So I'll say, well, I'm going to say a B as well. She speaks so well. She had a plan. She stuck to her plan. She had stats. Jay Ray there. It sounds like I think a little bit of that Elise is comes down to a funding thing because you know, Justin's going to provide everything that he possibly can. But you got to have the bodies and the manpower in able to do that. I was more impressed because her as a player, she was a bulldog and was like very kind of stuck in her ways. And this is the way it's going to be and didn't let a lot of people tell her, you know, anything different. And as a captain, she appeared very open and welcoming to suggestions from everything. And and this this Solhub Cup could have very easily gone the other way. And I'm going to say the exact same thing that I said about Anna is that I would love to see her come back again. There is a difference in age, but I think there's easy ways to bridge that. And it appeared that from the players like there's little things, but I think they all bought into it, you know, and where we're going is that we're going to have we have a lot of US captain candidates coming up. And they're all of that, you know, older generation now of of high 30s to into their 40s. And that's led really by Morgan and then Paula. Yeah, probably Paula. And I would say, I haven't heard anything, but yeah, but it'll it'll be very interesting because I think, you know, for Morgan's full time job, I know she she was excused from it to be a vice captain, but I think this would take a lot more time of her traveling and playing or not playing, but talking and spending a lot more time with the players and not just up in the broadcast booth. I don't know if if that's where she wants to be right now. So I don't know, but Paula super impressed. She was awesome this week. Great hat too. Big text. I just, you know, we've done several shows here this week. We had a Friday show, did a Saturday show and we've we've spoken a lot. I just want to revisit and re hash for a lot of people. Listen to the Sunday show that Bernardo's was an awesome venue, awesome venue. The crowds were incredible. The energy was incredible. Even with the we showed up this morning, it was raining. We're kind of like, Ah, this is going to be tough. I would this could have been a great moment for the LPGA ladies, your piano and soul, I'm cup a great close Sunday. Everybody was here today. The crowds were amazing, even on this Sunday in the rain. It was so rainy. It was tough. It was very tough. And it was just a dream venue. I hope this place gets another soul home cup, honestly, on sooner rather than later, because I haven't been to many of these. But I meant to ask a question to some of the players to solve where this ranks. I know they're kind of political answers on that. But this is up there. And then I spoke about it in the pressur as well of just how cool it was to bring an event here and how great the golf federations doing here. And they nailed it, set up everything. I've listened to you guys on the podcast the last couple of times talk about this not being the greatest experience going in person. Every single thing that they got wrong in Spain and at RTJ, both the LET and the LPGA was, this was a pretty much a flaw this week. It was incredible. And then Bosch has been great, where we stayed. We're getting, it's almost 10 o'clock now. I don't know what we're going to do for dinner, but we've been able to find dinner post 10 p.m. each last two nights. We're going to be in trouble. I think tonight this was going a little while. I think the course was presented beautifully. Niall Richardson, the superintendent and his staff. Awesome work. It's Fescue Kyle Phillips, like shout to him. This place is tailor-made for a match play competition. Again, we've talked about it every night. They talked about it in Post-Round Pressers. The decision to change the routing to fit a match play tournament and the natural amphitheaters that Kyle Phillips figured out how to route out here are so damn cool. If you're looking for what major championship venues and try to create that feeling that we never get at women's events because everything is too big of a scale. And then you put brand scans out and they're usually too small. And honestly, they don't get filled. It was full out here. It was two to three deep at points and it felt major. It was awesome to actually see it. And there were just points of energy, like that 12, 14, 15 here on 16. The first tee die on the first first tee. It was great. I'll say this dice tour has more energy than anyone else that I've met in golf. I don't know how many jobs she has, but bouncing up and down, getting everybody fired up, using the DJ everybody on the first tee every single morning doing, you know, players announcements and then closing ceremony. It's, it's a lot and I don't know how she keeps her voice as fresh as she does, but she crushed it. How was the bomb me sandwich that was good, explored a couple more food trucks, food trucks, of course, all this stuff. It's because, you know, I think they learned again their lesson in Spain, IMG. They've just, they've crushed it at every single level. Michelle and Izzy are media contacts. They've done everything that we possibly could do to include being able to do shows here. On site, which like most people, we know we're probably like the last people on site right now and they're waiting for us. It's just really cool and it feels great to be rewarded because we just want to showcase these awesome events and the awesome players. I think the, I'll also give a shout out to the club for hosting the Junior Soulheim Cup. I was talking to a couple people about that this week and like this is the first time they've had it on site at the event. And I think that's a big thing and I would encourage that to happen in Valhalla and where they have, like that's a, you've got Astros Talley here and probably the next five Soulheim cups. This is such a good experience for them. And I think like, of course, doesn't get that much play this week. Like it's, it's match play. There's only, you know, Matt Max 12 12 groups out there. And it's the first pro golf event I've been to in a while where I'm like, damn, I want to come play this course. Yeah. The header, the, the, the tight surrounds all of it. It's just, it's, it's really, really tastefully done. Yeah. So I do, uh, I never do this. This is usually back, back of the scenes, you know, uh, we have 13 minutes to finish this show. I'm trying else. We are going to lose internet. Yes. Okay. We are going to go quickly. Listen, we did not get to watch the Irish Open Shane Lowry one by 11 shots. Props to him. Peafender. Second, uh, looking a lot of freaking people out there at Dune bag. You give a great review. I mean, I haven't seen Dune bag a second time through recently. Yeah. Didn't get to watch any of it. Only clip I saw, uh, was Shane, uh, hooking one and saying that somebody deserved to be hit. He was getting very roasted for that one. Uh, deservedly. It sound like I don't know what the context was of that one. But uh, strike 18 on my guy Shane flying around 63 65 63 on the weekend. That's strong. Great to wait. Second time, he's winning his national open. Charlie, keep your politics out of my sports. For sure. For sure. Yeah. Pea and Waco finished second. Rasmus near guard Peters and fourth. It's kind of a big, big week for the Danes. Uh, overall, uh, Jake was called Olison was was seventh. Uh, Johnny Rombo. The any concerns there. Johnny Rombo finished, uh, T 23 with Joel. Don't call me Elvis Gerbach. Uh, David Law, David Mickaloozy. Things of that nature. It's all going great for my guy. For my guy Rombo. He finished one behind, uh, former former clique burned Beastburger. All right. We're ready to move on from that one. I teased that we were going to talk about live bankruptcy. Uh, let me let give us a give us a little time to dive into that one. That could be a future one. I think we're going to have plenty of time to catch up on a lot of live stuff. I will shout out, um, uh, Sean's not kind of a piece of just nine takeaways from it. Um, some, some, some fun little details that, that came with that. Phil's, Phil's got an equity stake in live was one of the things learned. Um, and yeah, just some, some, some nice details and small nuggets in there. Quick one for everyone before we go. Uh, everyone in Chicago, keep Wednesday, September 23rd open myself. TC and DJ are going to be doing a free live event with high noon ahead of the president's cup. Uh, we're going to be hanging out. We're going to talk some golf. We'll do a little Q and A. I'll give some stuff away. Uh, as we warm up for the weekend, uh, Emma Diner. We're going to be announcing the venue in our newsletter this week and on social media. Stay tuned, uh, on those channels for, for all of the details there. So look forward to that one greatly. So when we've got a great, great pod coming out this week with, uh, Mike cocking, Mike, Chad with Mike cocking. We talked about the renovation, uh, restoration renovation transformation. I guess of Madonna head of the president's cup, uh, as well, we'll have a ton of president's cup content, uh, as well that week, but you can look forward to that episode on Tuesday. Yeah. Uh, and then yeah, lastly, I want to just make a cul-pa on my end of sorts. Uh, I got this one wrong. I was, went back and listened to it. I was, uh, I put forth some inaccurate information about Bally Bunyan and, and the way I delivered it was, it wasn't meant to be malicious, but I think, uh, it came off as such and and totally owned that. I talked to both John Bamberry, the, the superintendent of Bally Bunyan and John Aggleston, the, uh, the GM, both of whom are extremely well regarded in the industry. And, uh, I think, you know, just coming from a place of, hey, I appreciate them being so gracious with me and, uh, hoping to a pod with them in the future, too. So, uh, more to come there, but, but yeah, just, uh, yeah, didn't expect to kind of ruffle feathers with that and, and yeah, totally, totally on me. So, um, again, I appreciate everybody at Bally Bunyan for, the time this week. Well said, T.C. Do you know that very much is the T.C. Way right there? Uh, do you know who I appreciate this week? Well, I go on on this week. I appreciate Sully, man. I've been hearing about Sully spent three years in Amsterdam. Guys, you know, I lived in Europe for three years. You set up the perfect trip. You're the perfect host, the perfect tour guide, uh, even though it's been years past, everything that you ever said and how excited and joyous you got about it. Do to live up to every single mark. And I know it's hard when you're making recommendations and like, you're like, man, am I like, am I excited? Was it really that cool? No, dude, it's like really cool. It's a really cool spot. And thanks for showing us a little slice, even though it's changed a little bit, but where your old stomping grounds were. And I can't wait to put the video together because it's going to bang. I have an easy part. I got to experience it just made suggestions. T.C. did a lot more of the planning, but thank you. Thank you for for saying that. But it's a special and we're not in Amsterdam, but Amsterdam is obviously a very special place to me, but I was just so stoked to come back to the Netherlands and just, you know, it's not the biggest golf country, but it's not been coming golf country. I think they they love they have a lot of great golf offerings, which you will see in the videos when we get there as well. And this was just, I don't know, man, this was a very, very peak week for me. I don't want to say I have to think on it, maybe like my favorite week of the year, but it's pretty darn close with the golf we got to play getting to go around Amsterdam and getting to witness this event. And yeah, it's time to go home tomorrow, unfortunately, but I had a lot of lot of fun coming back here and covering the event. I would call it the most underrated golf destination I've I've been to ever just that combinations of all of culture and things to do in a amazing city and also drive between 25 and 50 minutes to like a bunch of world class golf course that is not especially prevalent prevalent in a good proximity in continental Europe. Like UK Ireland, you know, all that is is a different category in terms of proximity and volume, but like the Netherlands has an incredible offer. Portugal is probably the nearest comp. And that's a different style. It's more resority, very cold and kind of classic design. And it's resority, but it's beautiful. But like this is this is a great place and and yeah, gosh, I can't wait for people to see. We played three rounds. I like I come back and play another like you can come back and play four or five rounds and play totally different courses. We come back and play I know and I know and can't remember Nordwikes being redone right now. Play this place. I mean, and you know, and still and still have justice good of a trip. But Dupont will stick with me for a really, really long time. That's a pretty magical golf course. And you played awful, if I might say so that that means that's a high cup. And it was rainy. And it was and man, I was like I did not want that round the end. Okay. Okay. Okay. Thank you. I saw a high cup. Guys, another soul high cup down. These things are awesome. Go like if you get a chance to go to one. I don't want to miss one of these in the next decade. Like it's just it's like it's among my favorite events of the year. Yeah. So I'm through Valhalla. I'll say this a lot of the LBJ tour folks here saw this. We saw the visit Louisville people here. They were making solid bourbons and and provided pizza and things like that. Trying to try and trying to try to win, thank you for early. But come to Valhalla make it. I guarantee you it's it will be one of the most fun team events of Pure Golf that you'll see. So we will be there in all likelihood. And and yeah, we'll be back. Yeah, not live next weekend, but live at the following week for Presidents Cup. We get to do this all all over again. So thank you so much for everyone for tuning in. Those people that are here live on NFL Sunday greatly appreciate that. Those that watch our Friday and Saturday shows. As well, thank you to our friends at title list, high noon and Holderness and born. Time to give them some airplanes. Go home. T.C.'s got a little traveling to do with his wife who made the trip over, which is awesome. And we have we're getting our internet cut here very soon, but time to find some dinner somehow and then Bosch at 11 p.m. And let's hope we get lucky. Thanks for tuning in. See you back here next week. Cheers. Crack on.