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Tkachuk Reunion in Florida, Oilers Signings. Plus: Babcock, Hellebuyck, Robertson, Raddysh and more!

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Tkachuk Reunion in Florida, Oilers Signings. Plus: Babcock, Hellebuyck, Robertson, Raddysh and more!

The podcast hosts open with a lighthearted discussion of Father's Day, sharing stories of quiet celebrations, barbecue ribs (with a detailed recipe), and reflections on lost fathers. The conversation shifts to major NHL news, starting with Brady Tkachuk's blockbuster trade from the Ottawa Senators to the Florida Panthers for four draft picks. This move reunites him with his brother Matthew and underscores a growing trend of American stars, like Quinn Hughes and Connor Hellebuyck, requesting trades from Canadian teams to play in the U.S. The hosts analyze Ottawa's leverage loss and the pressure on teams like Winnipeg to maximize returns for players like Hellebuyck, with Buffalo emerging as a potential trade partner. The Edmonton Oilers are also in focus, with Connor Murphy's contract extension (five years, $4.1 million annually) and Mike Babcock's expected hiring. The hosts debate Babcock's tactical strengths versus his controversial past, emphasizing his ability to address Edmonton's playoff shortcomings. The episode concludes by examining the league's haves and have-nots, questioning whether Canadian teams can retain top American talent or must prioritize drafting the best player available despite potential future trade demands.

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[MUSIC] You can always tell when a streak's going to come to an end. You win a couple of games you probably shouldn't. There are teams out there that could use that quality of playoff goal-tending. [MUSIC] All right, ready to do this? Yeah, let's go. [MUSIC] Powered by Red Medium Partnership with TSN, it is season seven of the Rain drags hockey podcast presented by our title sponsor Tim Hortons. Welcome in the newest edition of the popular Frozen Quencher lineup. Popping Frozen Quenchers. He's truly unique during his explore with pop and candy that are blended throughout and he's on top for good measure creating a sensory experience in this refreshingly ice-free and creamy drink. Hello Ray, how are you? How is your father's day? Are you just lavishly spoiled on Sunday? You got food? Okay, how was it? It seems like father's day is more of an event when the kids are younger. Yeah, so I had an amazing day. The highlight I played golf at 330 in the afternoon was Landon, Riley and Reese. Nice. Matt unfortunately couldn't be here. He was out of town. So we just we had a great day, but I had to remind them it was father's day. So the day before I reminded Kami and the boys and then I booked the golf and bought dinner. So yeah, they they had a great father's day too. It was really good. How was yours? You know, it was super quiet. I mean, obviously both kids are are not here. And so I don't think I was annoyed. It's always a bit of a game with me. I don't know how you are, you know, when when you wish Kami a happy mother's day or happy birthday happy anniversary. Any of that. But I feel like it's always best case scenario to as soon as you get up when you're both up. Okay, happy anniversary, happy birthday, happy mother's day. Here's the gift of flowers, all of that. So I'm like, I'm Mason was the first to wish me a happy father's day and around 12 30 PM Eastern. So around noon, right? And then came came in about mid afternoon. And I'm like, you know what? 10 years ago that would have annoyed me. I would have went wait a minute. You get up in the morning. The first thing you have to do on Father's days wish your dad happy father's day. But right, the kinder gentler version of me. I just I know I appreciate that. Yeah, we had a chat and that was that. So it was quiet. Watch us open. Barbeque had some ribs. It was pretty quiet. Yeah, the the the early call now doesn't. You know, it doesn't it doesn't matter. They're adults. They got things to do. They're busy. Exactly. Yeah, for forgot, forgot it's Father's Day or Paulie Tex, the man said, hey, you guys get on this. Because I accused her of it. And she denies that was the case. But it had that it had that feel to it. Yes. Now, now I will say the one or one guy, Riley, he's he's the one that is off to college first year last year. Yeah, he does things now to just just, you know, put it like a stick into spokes just on purpose. And so like he walks by about six or seven times yesterday. He doesn't say a word. But I can tell he's just doing it on purpose. And then finally, he's like, I love this. Happy. He goes happy Father's Day buddy. And I'm like buddy. And he's like, oh, you don't raise a happy father. So he just he calls me a razor. And so these dots. So anyways, it was great. I hope everybody had a good father's day. And the other thing about Father's Day, I will say it always I always take a few minutes to remember my dad because I was incredibly lucky. My dad was everything to me. And it's crazy. He's been gone longer than he was alive in my life. Yeah, I always take a few minutes to remember. And I hope people get to do that too. But man, he was, yeah, he was a great man. And so we had a good day. And got through it with no major mishaps, which is always good. I even didn't have the barbecue. You like the barbecue. I'm a little iffy. I don't mind. Okay. I actually did some. Yeah, I did some yard work. I looked after the ribs all that. But that's all part of for me. A Father's Day routine. Hang on. Look after the rich. What the hell do you look after ribs? You throw them on the barbecue. That's it. Well, yes, but it's a three to one process rates of three to one process three hours at 225, right? Uncovered. Just a dry rub uncovered. Then two hours with barbecue sauce and you cover them at 225. And then the final hour is at 275 uncovered. And then you get that nice bark on the ribs from the sauce. I'd forget halfway through the two hour part. And then yeah, it wouldn't happen. Three to one. All right, man, we are we. It's Monday as we record this episode. And we are building for a week of chaos. And that's fine. I'm here for it. We're going to get through some of it here in our headlines brought to you by the Canadian brew house. A real fans. You know the move because you do it all the time. Best case you arrive early happy hour at the Canadian brew house runs Monday to Saturday to PM to 6 PM. Skip the coach. Hit the Canadian brew house. It's your home for every puck drop every goal every cheer every touchdown every pot. And then you get on the list. It's where you need to be their house is your field and your arena. Okay, Brady could chuck in a father's day blockbuster. That's what it was traded to the Florida Panthers for three first round draft picks Ray and a second round draft pick so a four pick package for Brady could chuck. Captain obviously made it clear to Sands management that he would not be extending in auto one two years from now. So he reportedly supplied a list. You know four teams, but come on at the end of the day, it was about Brady could chuck landing in Florida with the Panthers with his brother Matthew. So describe your level of shock when you saw on social media, obviously that this had transpired. Well, when the final when the final note comes that the trades been done, it's always a little bit stunning to read the you know the players connected. But earlier in the day, the the Samus Kampich trade happened where he went to Seattle for a first. Yeah, and yeah, this does not make sense because Florida is not collecting first rounders. The only thing you're doing was collecting them to move them. And so yeah, I didn't I don't think I quite put together the. That it would be could shock like I didn't. But you know them collecting first rounders was. Yeah, like the flag was up so you know if you I guess you know Ottawa takes you know takes a boot in the shins here. Because you know they they lose well the only player in the deal at this point and you don't know what's going to come now that they've got all these first round picks. But at a certain point that we've seen and now and we'll talk about like the certain players carry the hammer. And that's just the way it is and you have to do the best around it that you can and you know you can critique the return. You know it sure it could always be better but at a certain point like you don't have any leverage you've got not. He's he's going to go and all of a sudden though like how about Florida they miss the playoffs in them after two cops they they end up with the ninth pick. They make a trade and get another pick and now they reload and when you read those lines on paper now that paper doesn't always translate. It doesn't always translate to to ice but yeah that looks like a hell of a team now they need a goal and they got to figure that out but but that looks like a hell of a team. Yeah and you're right I mean there was some criticism there will be some criticism the fact that Ottawa did not get an NHL player back. However I do know that as soon as the deal was announced. The day of us as phones started ringing right now would be teams calling all right we need to move up in the draft where we want another top 10 pick. So what do you need for number nine. What do you need for nine and 25 like stale's is going to manufacture those picks into at least a top six forward now now drags if I'm correct. They do have the 32nd pick, but they cannot move that correct correct can't can't trade 32. That's right. So so now they're they're they have the nine that they just got from Florida. They got their own 25. Yeah, and so it feels like like there's certain teams that if they're collecting first round picks like Chicago's been doing and San Jose had been doing collecting draft picks. Those feel futuristic and agreed. Yeah. Auto wall with first round picks does not feel futuristic. It feels in the now. And so now you look around. And so there's another step to this, of course, is that you know, one player is just left because he didn't want to stay in Canada. And that's Brady Kitchock. Yeah. And so the players that they're trying to acquire. They might have to look at those players a little bit differently. Who who who's interested in being an auto off for more than a short period of time. Although how long was Brady and Ottawa seven, eight years, right? A years. Yeah. Yeah. So you know, that's it's not like he was here for two years and said, I don't want to do it. But that's that's just another another piece of data that that Ottawa's got to deal with. A, by the way, we're going to continue. I want your your thoughts on this trend that we've we've seen established here. And I don't know, it's fair to say dates back to Quinn Hughes getting created by Vancouver's a Minnesota. But there's definitely, you know, a pre and opposed to lunch. Development that involves these American players. Hold that thought for just a moment because Ryan Rishogg is actually broke some news live on the point. Yeah. And on it. What's he got? Yeah, Connor Murphy. Standing with the oilers five years and 4.1 million per says Ryan Rishogg. So Stan moment getting some business done. Right. We'll talk about Babcock coming up later in this edition of headlines here on the pod. But Jason Deckinson gets extended now Connor Murphy. So at least two pieces that they had last year that they acquired last year. Good pieces too are coming back at a I call that affordable deals on both fronts. Man, I wish I was 30 years old. I would have I would have been so affordable. If you want a million box like good good for Connor is Connor is a I know Connor. I don't know Jason Dickinson. Yeah, Connor is an 11 out of 10 as as a kid. He really is. And he he plays a style that fits what Edmonton was trying to round out their defense with. Now we'll see what they do with nurse. But now you. It's certain at a certain point you only got one pop on the ice. And you need guys that can be effective goofy is this would sound be effective without the pop. Yeah. And so I'll give you an example off the Stanley Cup team that just one and that's Jalen Chadfield. He makes a good first pass. He's, you know, he skates well. He doesn't need the pop to be effective. He can play with a really good player. And he played with Jalen or he played with Slaven and that became part of their shutdown pair. And I'm not saying they're the same player, but Murphy can play without the pocket Dickinson does not need the pop to be effective. So these are I like these I like these signings for a team that is in a I'm going to say it's a tight window because there's there's certainly uncertainty about what the future might hold for them. They're I think they went off the rails about six different ways last year. And they're going to they're going to try and bump it back. You know, back on track. And I think these are two good pieces for them. Yeah. Okay. And I think we can speak in a sense of finality that Mike Babcock's arrival in Edmonton is imminent. Right. I mean, he's been cleared by the National Hockey League. The PA just wanted, you know, the due diligence and Babcock to face the allegations through league investigation. That's happened. So what will intrigue you most about Mike Babcock joining the Edmonton Oilers. Okay. So I think the noise around the investigation and his conduct in Columbus, you know, however, yeah, people view that. I mean, I'm, yeah, I mean, there's no way you can be supportive of what. I don't know what was what he was trying to do, which I think part of it was just not having the awareness of what what exactly he was asking for. I think there was a lack of an awareness to it. And there's a there's a bucket load of stories about Babs not being a very good guy to to some of his players. The bucket load of stories about him being one of the best tacticians in the game. However, he got fired in Toronto, not because he treated people poorly got fired in Toronto because he lost the team lost its way. That was the last time he coached in the NHL. So I'm more interested in that that I am in the investigation stuff. Yeah. Yeah, me too. Because because that that investigation stuff, I don't have firsthand knowledge to it. I know it was, you know, wanting to see guys pictures out of their phones and whatever the hell else went on. I do know and I know from, you know, landed stole me a couple stories about what he was in Detroit and some of his travails there. And there's enough stuff around it that that's one side of it. The other is his he had very good players in Toronto, but they couldn't find the next step in Edmonton. They've already got the first step. They make the playoffs. They're looking for the next step. So two years ago, they lost in six games, three years ago, they lost in seven games. That that's the level they're talking about. Can he do that? Can he shape that team in that way? And that to me, honestly, Drake's that's the only the only thing that I'm interested in because there are some very obvious holes on that team. And you know, can he help coach around those holes? We'll stick with the Western Canadian theme here for a little bit, but I do want to go back then to have the conversation about the Americans trying to flood their way south from Canadian teams. I think that the birdie could chuck trade definitely impacts Winnipeg and what they're doing with with Connor Hellibut. He's a Hall of Fame gold tender. I don't think that there's any question about that. Maybe there is. I don't know. But you know, you're dealing with a bigger pool because Hellibut has provided more teams that sheveled a off can deal with. But are you ever getting enough back? You know, and if if you're Winnipeg or you look at the return that the spends just got for Brady again that doesn't have an actual NHL player coming back nice draft picks, good draft picks, but the work is just starting there. I you know, you look at Winnipeg's lineup, right? I mean, we know they need that number two center. You know, they like to add another defenseman. What are they going to do in goal of Hellibut goes out the door like you don't you feel you have to get some of those pieces back as part of this. And that might be why it's not going to be that easy for Winnipeg to move on Connor Hellibut, but I think they will, but it's not going to be easy. So I do think the return of a goalie has to be part of it. The return of when I say has to be has to be part of the goal of the trade because you can go there and start asking teams for whatever you want. And I'm sure that Ottawa didn't say, hey, let's let's make this trade and I don't want any NHL players back. I'm pretty sure that's not what what stale started with. And eventually you get to a point. This is the only deal you can make is that the best deal I can make. Then you have to wash your hands of it and say, I'm either going to step off the curb or I'm not. And I think Winnipeg will get to that point. Now there's some to me, there's some pretty obvious places. And the one I will say because I think it, you know, to me, it stands out as Buffalo. Okay. That's that's a team that was, you know, finally breaks their stretch. They have you can see the you can see the growth that that team took and what it might take to be in the next step. And one of the places is in goal in their series loss to Bof a to Montreal. Yeah, they were out. They were out goal tended for sure. There's no question. And so you've got Luke and then and Lion and Ellis. And if I'm Buffalo, I would like to improve that. And I said before I don't like throwing names out. But to me, there's a cut. There's there's a couple players that might fit that center position and might fit the goal tending position that they could make a deal that wouldn't strip Buffalo. of too many assets that they couldn't make that type of deal. So to me, if I'm thinking around the lead, that's the one that steps out to me. Right. Now I'm trying to think of the centers. Thank you. Thank you. Well, I did hear Josh Norris's name, not related to younger Winnipeg. Yeah, younger. Interesting. All right. Well, definitely something we'll keep an eye on for sure. But now it brings us here. I'll get back to the US guys. Yeah, yeah. Every US player, every US born player doesn't have the clout to tell their NHL team. Yeah, I'm not staying here. Trade myself. They don't because a lot of them will say, well, good, we'll go sit at home and when I get around to it, I'll figure it out. Yeah. We're talk. So we talk about Quinn Hughes. We talk about Brady Kitchock. We're talking about Connor Hellabach. The danger becomes the stars are the ones that are saying, I'm going down south. Right. And I, and then you end up with, with the haves and the have nots, which I think is, is the danger of, of the way this cap and the way the league is, is built is that there's going to be teams that are going to spend to what is it this year? 103, 104, yeah. Yeah. And then 113 next year. There's going to be, they're roughly, there's going to be teams that'll spend to that. And there's going to be some other teams that are going, yeah, you know what? My cap's 95 million. Yeah. Or, and that's just the way it's going to be. If you were an owner, and well, I want to talk about Dallas and what's going on with Jason Robertson because you want to talk about a big fish. Yeah. I mean, they don't get much bigger than Jason Robertson. So if you're a Canadian owner, how concerning is this for you? Like again, if it's probably unfair to call it a trend, we're talking about a few players, but they're significant players, right? Right. You know, is it concerning enough where you go into the draft and you go, okay, we need a foundational piece. Best player available. That's what every team says. I'm taking the best player available. Happens to be an American. Are you looking at the next best player? Are you going, no, it's the best player available. So I'm going to draft that player and we'll worry about whether or not he becomes a trade asset down the road. Let's just take the best player. No, I'm not, I'm not walking past that player. You've got, if you draft him, unless it's, unless it's a situation like Brett Lindross or Brett Lindross, I played with Brett with Eric, where he said, I'm not coming. I'm not, I'm not coming to call back in a, and they drafted the draft that are anyway, right? Like if unless it's a, unless it's a situation like that, this player in, in most cases has no mobility until 26, 27 years old. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm, I'm looking at it in that, in that sense. If he's the best player, man, I, you can't, you can't push past the best players. Here's the other. Yeah. See, you get to a place and your three says, Oh, I want to leave. Well, you, you have his rights. You have, you have the asset. You have the trade, you know, the trade leverage. That's, yeah, me, you know, maybe you become more proactive with players. Yeah. To, to see as their career unfolds. But for the most part, like, well, if I were a Canadian team, I'd ask Chase Reed, what are your thoughts on coming to Canada? Yeah. I would do it for sure. The kid is awesome. He's a terrific young prospect. Yeah. But if, and, and his, his interviews and his interviews, I meant interviews with teams, but interviews publicly have said, yeah, I don't, I don't have a problem. I would, I just, I just want to go where I'm drafted. I want to, so I think that's a little different. Now Jason Robertson, I, he's fascinating to me. I think I've said this before. I find him to be one of the more unique players in the league. Yeah. Because there, there are not many players that can score out of nothing like him. He's got, he's bigger than you think. He's stronger than you think. There are times he looks like the puck just never leaves his stick. And then there are other times where you're like, no, I don't really see much of him. Boom. Goal and insist. If I'm a good team, and I have room, I'm monitoring what Dallas is able to do there in a big way. Yeah. Well, I'll bring you up to speed on that. And we have to be careful. I mean, we're talking about the here and now and things can change very quickly with a phone call, right? But this has been a difficult negotiation to say the least between Annie Scott who represents Jason Robertson and Jim Nill and Tom Galardi and the Dallas stars. And as of right now, the sense I'm getting is it's more likely than not they trade Jason Robertson. Not saying they will, but it's more likely than not. Now there are other options that could be considered. Go to arbitration, deal with that, and then potentially trade him next season. But it's just the dollars in the term that some of these top guys command that if you're a candidate, Dallas is always that can be crippling. Okay, so let's say they go to arbitration, walk me through this. They go to arbitration. They get a one or two year award. Yeah, one which they won. So if you were to trade Robertson now going into free agency, right? Your return would be pretty sparse. Yeah, correct. Yeah. If you, if you sign him in arbitration and you trade him with the rest of the contract, which is the rest of next year, would you not get a better return? I would think so. Yeah. No, of course, you've got to be in trade, right? Yeah, you've won it all of that. But I was just thinking on the arbitration part. If you can, if you can get through the wickets and make the cap fit, which is the whole other thing, would that not be something you would look at? Like the options are not as straightforward. I think is no, or get a, like, you know, you get a third round draft pick. Like who cares? Right? Like that's that's what I'm making you a hole for because that's what Gensel God, I think, when he got traded, it was a third round pick. And so I, I don't know, I, it seems like it would be really tough. You've got Rantan in there already. And he's making, he's making a big buck and you'd have Robertson there at, you know, like Wyatt Johnson's new deals kicking in. They've always looked for another defenseman. Like, man, it, it's hard. They're already just think of how difficult this is. I just had this thought. So it's easy to improve your team. When you get into the stratosphere of where Dallas is to improve the, the amount you have to improve, which is not very much, and what it costs are not equal. Like it costs heavy and there's very few players that can help you over the line. Yeah. Right. When you're a lousy team, there's all kinds of players that can help you be better. But when you're a really good team, it, it becomes really difficult to find that guy. I mean, there's so much going on right now negotiating wise, right? You know, we're talking about pending free agents. Go back to Buffalo. You know, I know that the Sabers have reengaged with Alex Tuck. You know, maybe there's a fit there to keep him away from July 1st in free agency. And maybe that goes hand in hand with the interest that we know they're getting in Bobe Irons, right? You move on PC save a bit of money. And now you're, you know, you're, you're lucky at holding on to Alex Tuck. And I think that's happening in varying forms around the league, not just in some of those hot spots that we've talked about here. Well, if the reported asking price of Tuck is, is legit. You can see where Buffalo's like, I'm, they just watched the playoffs. He did like 10 plus you're saying, or yeah, yeah, you know, like is Alex Tuck and I'm not, I'm not naive to the world has changed. Yeah, but he had a career year. He got into the playoffs and had a great first round. He was awesome against Boston and nothing against Montreal, like zero. Yeah. And so what pause does that give you if you're the general manager and the owner. You're like, it's great. He's from Western New York. It's great he was the Sabers fan growing up. All that's awesome. Yeah. But are you willing to commit that $10 million figure and then talks agent is going to try and judge? Is there anybody that thinks this is a good idea because he only needs one team, right? That's all they need. It's just one team to go, you know what? We can plunk him on our second line and that changes the look of our team. And they're very easily could be a team to do that. Like he's a good player. He is a good player. But Buffalo's got to make the, you know, make everything fit for what they're trying to do going forward as well. And you're right, Byron and the return of Byron if they do move on that, that plays a factor. Yeah. All right, we'll wrap up headlines with, we didn't skip over the maple. If there's just been so much news that has transpired since they, they completed the signing trade with Tampa Bay and acquired Darren radish. Your thoughts on that, you know, there's talked that Tampa Bay's final offer was in the six year round there at less than seven million per and we know Toronto sent a fifth round draft, just to jump the queue to get to radish who is scheduled to be an unrestricted free agent and paid dearly at eight years eight and a half million per. It's, it's affordable if you're getting the radish that we saw this past here, right? And I guess that's what you do as any club would do. You gamble on the player that you think you're going to see for the foreseeable future. You know, hopefully in Toronto's case he's a 30 year old guy who's played 249 games. Hopefully, that's at least for the next four or five, six years. So he went six goals, six goals, 22 goals. Yeah. He had one of the premier passers in the last decade, laying on the apples out there to just walk into. And I'm telling you, if you have not seen him shoot, it is a weapon. It is lots of players just say, oh, that guy's got a bomb. His is different. It comes off his stick and it feels like every shot is like last year. It felt like every shot was going into that. Yeah. Like that, that's what it felt like. So I'm thinking of him as he's going to get out on the point. He's going to run the power play. They haven't never really had a power play quarterback in Toronto. Like a guy to stand up there and just bomb it. They haven't had somebody. So you've got knee lander or Matthews over on that side. If it's Matthews playing, if you replace Kuteroff with Matthews, how does that work? Is Austin Matthews a passer? Yeah. A little sudden. So I think one of his biggest weapons, Darren Radish, his biggest weapons is his ability to a shoot it. I mean, you can see that, but to get himself into a spot to shoot it. Yeah. But the delivery is not going to be there in the same way. And I think that's a, that becomes a real question for me. Yeah. The eight years, I don't know, I know how I felt at age 37 and it wasn't the way I felt at age 30. Yeah. Well, you know, I mean, that's, that's what they chose to do. But I guess I'm most concerned with the six goals, six goals, 22 goals and the lack of Kuteroff. Yeah. To me, those are, those are factors that you have to have to think about now. And so I read something today, Drake, you tell me if this on the likely, non-likely is Matthew, Matthew Nies' name has been all around. Yeah. Possible movement. Correct. And they would want, you know, a high first round, pick certainly in return. Explain to me if that is correct. You trade and sign a defenseman that's 30 years old and now you're trading a power forward that are very hard to find for an 18 year old. Those two things don't match to me. And so when I read that, I'm like, that, that, those two, those two moves each of itself, like whether I agree or not, I can see what the thought is. But together, how do those two, how do those two marry? They don't. No, I, I hear you. I think, and I've said this repeatedly, John Chica is on a fishing expedition. You know, he, he's not actively shopping Matthew Nies because he knows that type of player is a player that, as soon as you trade him, you're looking for the next Matthew Nies. He's kind of unique. Sort of commodity. But if you could get the second pick overall from San Jose, do you listen on something like that? If you can get a legit number two center, if you can get another top young defenseman in a, in a package for knives, I think you'll listen to that. But I don't, I honestly, Ray, I don't think Chica is keenly interested or motivated to trade him. I don't. I don't know. I, I guess you can ask for anything you want. Right. You know, it makes me pause. You're like the number two pick. I'm like, well, you know, what if you, what if you ended up with McKenna and Stanburg or McKenna and Reed and, right? Like then you're like, if you look into the future, right? Real, it doesn't. And so how does that connect to their in radish? Right. It doesn't. You're, you're bang on, but doesn't it connect to us to Matthews? Because like I think it's safe and saying, Matthews has committed to the Maple Leafs for this season. No, no, no. Yes. Matthews, yes, radish, a couple of 18 year olds. It doesn't matter. So that's, that's my only like all of it. I hear all of these potential thoughts and I'm like, yeah, it makes sense. But the over, I guess you, I guess this is what we do a little bit, but you got to wait and see what the, what this dust off to be. Agreed. Yeah. Because there's, there is, if you look at the very best teams and now we have to include Carolina and because they're just, they've just won the cup and I'm telling you that is, that is an incredible team. Really good. They, they stayed on the same path. Took them eight years and, but they stayed on the same path. They weren't wildly veering all over the place. Florida, once they got, you know, it took them some time, but once they got ownership sorted and they, and they, they were able to bring in Billy Zito and they became a team with it. This is our vision. They never veered off the path and they went and did it again. They didn't go get a five foot nine forward. They went and got another big horse. Yeah. And so they're on their path, Tampa stayed on their path. So the, the only way in my mind to success, it's not copying the other guys. It's building your path, your vision and staying on that path as much as you can. And, and that to me is the, that is the secret sauce for this whole thing. Excellent stuff, those are your headlines. Thank you to the Canadian Maroo House. It feels like Tim Hortons has always been a part of my routine. Certainly as a dad, you know, as a coach or taking my kids to the early morning hockey's had to go through the drive through and get my cup of coffee and get the 10 bits for the kids. Can I get a medium coffee with milk please? Then even driving into studio now at TSN. If I don't go through the drive through, get my medium coffee with milk, I feel like my routine has been interrupted. Thank you. Thank you. You too. The only way to start a day. It's going to be a fun week. Could be a bit hair raising as we've established through headlines, right? I mean, it is the season, you know, it's not just about teams preparing for the draft. There's just so much going on, just so much, so many big names that are potentially in place. So are you intrigued by it or you're looking forward to it or you're just like, "Damn, I'm going to sit back. I'm going to play some golf this week. I'm just going to see that the chips fall where they may. I don't really have anything invested in this. Does it matter to me? Like how close are you, monitor?" I will follow along. I've got a very busy week. >> Yeah. Okay. So I'm playing Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday. I had to take Thursday off. >> No. >> Today, making a continued swoop around golf clubs in the lower mainline, as James Duffy. >> Yes. >> And so today we heard this. >> By the way, it was, he was terrible in our opening round. Terrible. Like, what does terrible mean? Like 85? >> No. >> And that, and so he, he was not happy. He's looking forward to a second round today. We're playing with Dan Murphy today. >> Okay. >> So, so this is Monday. And then I think after the Wednesday, Canada game, when, as after James, then he's got his times. Okay, I can do it before my two o'clock hit in the practice for Canada or after. He's working hard. So we've got a busy week of golf ahead of us. >> Yeah. >> So I will be following, because this, sorry, I'll be following, because I think it's like, I don't need to dial in until the games. But this is like monopoly right now. And it's super interesting. >> Can you do me a favor with James when you see him this afternoon? >> Sure. >> Just send him a simple message from Dregs. >> You are dead to me. >> Oh, really? >> I will most certainly. >> I shared something in confidence with him that matters. I think it was like Wednesday or Thursday. And he's like, okay, he was, I'll give you a call. I want to talk to you about this on the weekend. Crickets. >> Which weekend? >> Yeah. >> He'll say which weekend. I didn't specify. But I'm telling you, Dregs, he's busy. He's busy, because he's, by the way, he's got his rental car. We always joke about this for those of you that don't know James Dregs. He's got every golf gadget on the planet. >> Yeah. So we walk out to his car after and he throws his clubs in the back. And there's this golf gadget thing that's supposed to increase your swing speed. And I go, what is this? And so he looks at it. And then he gets into the thing while it measures your swing speed. It's got an app. It's supposed to increase your speed by this and that was like, you're crazy, man. >> Yeah. I cracked up as soon as I saw it. It's increasing his score. That's what it's increasing. >> It is. It really is. Oh, and by the way, do you have any buddies that use that goofy aim and point thing to line up their pots? >> No. >> Yeah, Duffy. Move it along. >> No. >> You don't make any pots anyway. Move it along. >> Can you please video some of this stuff? >> I will actually, actually, you know what, that's a great idea. I will video that today. >> It's awesome. >> All right, man. We'll hit up straight. >> That's great. >> That's great. >> Thanks for listening to everybody. I hope you guys all have a great day, great week. We'll talk later on. Have a good one, Drates. >> Yeah, thanks, right. It is going to be a week. We know that. And thank you to our sponsors who continue to support us here on the Rain Drake's podcast. Our title sponsor, Tim Horton's Thank You. Thank you to the Canadian Brewhouse as well. Until next time, enjoy this week of Chaos and stay safe with everybody.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The hosts discuss Father's Day experiences, including quiet celebrations and family traditions like barbecue ribs.
  2. Brady Tkachuk was traded from Ottawa to the Florida Panthers for three first-round picks and a second-round pick, reuniting him with his brother Matthew.
  3. The trade highlights a trend of American NHL players requesting trades from Canadian teams to play in the U.S.
  4. Connor Murphy signed a five-year, $4.1 million per year extension with the Edmonton Oilers, alongside Jason Dickinson's extension.
  5. Mike Babcock's imminent hiring by the Oilers is discussed, focusing on his tactical skills and past controversies.
  6. Connor Hellebuyck's potential trade from Winnipeg is analyzed, with Buffalo mentioned as a possible destination.
  7. The hosts debate the impact of star players leaving Canadian teams, noting the challenge of retaining top American talent.

Summary:

The podcast hosts open with a lighthearted discussion of Father's Day, sharing stories of quiet celebrations, barbecue ribs (with a detailed recipe), and reflections on lost fathers. The conversation shifts to major NHL news, starting with Brady Tkachuk's blockbuster trade from the Ottawa Senators to the Florida Panthers for four draft picks. S.

The hosts analyze Ottawa's leverage loss and the pressure on teams like Winnipeg to maximize returns for players like Hellebuyck, with Buffalo emerging as a potential trade partner. 1 million annually) and Mike Babcock's expected hiring. The hosts debate Babcock's tactical strengths versus his controversial past, emphasizing his ability to address Edmonton's playoff shortcomings.

The episode concludes by examining the league's haves and have-nots, questioning whether Canadian teams can retain top American talent or must prioritize drafting the best player available despite potential future trade demands.

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The podcast discusses NHL news, including the Brady Tkachuk trade to the Florida Panthers, Connor Murphy's extension with the Oilers, and Mike Babcock's potential hiring in Edmonton.

Brady Tkachuk was traded because he made it clear he would not extend his contract with Ottawa, reportedly supplying a list of preferred teams. He landed in Florida to play with his brother Matthew.

Ottawa received three first-round draft picks and a second-round pick from Florida, but no NHL player was included in the deal.

Ottawa now has the 9th and 25th picks, which they can use to trade for a top-six forward, as teams are already calling to move up in the draft.

Star American players like Brady Tkachuk and Quinn Hughes have requested trades to US teams, raising concerns about Canadian teams retaining top talent and creating a divide between high- and low-spending teams.

Mike Babcock has been cleared by the NHL after an investigation into his conduct in Columbus, and his hiring by Edmonton is imminent. The focus is on his tactical abilities rather than past controversies.

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