Tina Fey

Hey, everyone. This is Amy Polar. This is the first episode of my podcast. Thank you for being here. I'd like to be five or six years late to any trend. It only gets better from here, but or it only goes down from here. I don't know. We'll see. I just want to make it clear. I am not an expert. I'm not a therapist. I'm not here to change your life. I don't care if you get any better. I don't have advice for you. I just I just want us to have fun and lighten up a little and I don't know. I want us to feel like there's some there's a way to have laughs amid all of the craziness that is life. So if you're listening to this while you're working out or holding laundry or maybe you're sitting in your car avoiding your kids, maybe you're listening to this. I don't know in your you know in-laws basement next to the Bowflex machine and it's Christmas and you're questioning. The choices you've made in life. Whatever it is, this is a show here to to have fun and make you laugh and I'm not here to judge. Okay, so my guest today is Tina Fey. Tina is my wife really in life. She is my comedy partner in many ways and she has, you know, I talk about it in the podcast a little bit but she has been along this journey with me. We've really experienced a lot of things together at the same time in life. Sometimes I feel like Tina and I are kind of a group with two members and we've had a lot of parallel things happen at the same time. Kids and TV shows and career and we're lucky enough to still like each other and want to tour together. So we're going to talk and hang out and like any good hang you want to make sure that anyone's invited. So without further ado, here are some of my fave people, Seth Meyers, Fred Armason, Rachel Dratch, and Zarna Garg, a great stand-up and friend who's been joining Tina and I on the road and see if they have any questions for Tina. Anything they think I should ask her and honestly I just want to check in and see if they think this is a good idea. This episode is presented by the Toyota Grand Highlander. Life's journey brings constant change filled with exciting surprises, new chapters and grand challenges and the Toyota Grand Highlander is more than a vehicle. It's your partner in embracing all life throws at you. Blanked and the kids have grown up, the third row can fit three adults. From daily routines to life changing adventures, the Toyota Grand Highlander is up for every grand challenge. Learn more at toyota.com/grandhighlander. Toyota, let's go places. Wait, Dratch is Zoom is in this joke. Dratch is in a haunted New England attic. It's very Dratch to join and then carry her laptop into every room in her own home. I'm going to plant again now. Dratch is putting her headphones on it away. It's a 30% chance she strangles herself. I know this is a very typical Dratch entry. Dratch's headphones look like, you know when you were trying to untangle Christmas lights? Yeah, I didn't even know this kind of cord could tangle like that. I'm holding up everything. No, no, this is what anyone is. This is just the sound of untangling headphones is great for like the first podcast and stuff. All right, ready to rock. Maybe I should reintroduce everybody since we're all on my care. Zarna Garg, Seth Meyers, Fred Armason, Rachel Dratch. Welcome to Good Hang. Thank you for being. It's great to be here. It's been a great hang so far. I mean, it's happened before the New Jersey Joe's been great. I mean, it feels like it's been real smooth. That's on me. That's on me. Can you just microphone okay? Does this sound all right? Check, check. Um, we just go down the line and have everyone clap. We really need you guys to clap. Oh, I didn't hear Zarna. Okay, okay. We really need to get this clap right guys. Okay, Seth, it's not picking up. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] Hey, mate, this is the episode. This is 100% Zarna. I don't know. This is, I think it's very unfair that Dratch is using this time to record an episode of background noises with Rachel Dratch. [laughter] Dratch, who is at the door? That's the question. I heard food. I heard food. [laughter] I haven't heard an old tiny doorbell like that. Wait, wait, wait, one more thing. One more thing. [laughter] Batteries are out of my hands. [laughter] I have to do my phone. [laughter] I'm gonna put my phone on it, but I don't need to make a phone, right? Dratch, we're probably getting out of this. [laughter] This is the most embarrassing place these days. [laughter] Also, Dratch, if you ordered from a second restaurant, you should tell us. I didn't do a bang bang. [laughter] [laughter] Okay. Alrighty, it's been a good hang. [laughter] I'm ready. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] Oh my god. So, my first guest is Tina. Tina Fey. And you all know Tina really well. So, I guess my question to you is, what would you want to hear her talk about on this podcast or any podcast? She doesn't do a lot of them. Her dad was really good at caricatures. So, are there any other artistic talents that she got from her dad? Because Tina's good at caricatures too, like drawing. But how do you put that into like a question for her? I guess it's more like, did she get that from her dad or like how much of, like, I remember him being really funny in his own way too. Yeah. So, um. She is an intimidating presence, you know? Like, you know, people are nervous around her. I was nervous around her when I first met her. And then she gets asked like, she's intimidating in the way that a man would be. Mm-hmm. But, I wonder if she ever gets asked like the girl questions. Like, what dress are you gonna wear? Is that your sweet youngspot at all? Or do people just go to her like, oh no, this is not a Tina big question. Do you want me to ask her the dress question? You asked her the dress question set. I'll ask her. And can you do it? Can you whisper it in like a phone call late at night? Can you say, what dress are you gonna wear? Hey, Zarna, Zarna wants to know. Um, I know you guys, your time is limited so I won't keep you much longer. But, um, just before we go, you are all doing tons of podcasts, hosting them, in them. Like, what advice do you have for me as I launch? I just know from knowing you that like, whenever you ask people questions in real life, you really are interested. And you're just on like the cliff of like giving a hint as to what your opinion is. Just not too much, but just enough so it like, it's really, it just draws you in. So, there's no advice. I'm just like, every time you ask me a question, like, oh, I think Amy's really asking me a question. Is it, is it, that sounds kind of leading the witness a little bit? No, no, no, no, no, it's more like, um, this is going to be a fun conversation. So, for example, this is not a real thing, but you'd be like, so you really like landing in London? Like, that's like a good airport to land in. And I'm like, oh, something's, this is about to be a conversation about what you do. I don't like that. I think you're very good at not letting, sometimes you help turn people away from the negative narrative that they might want to lay out to you. So, you're really good friend and that you listen. And I think you can tell when people just need to like, unburden themselves or something. But I feel like more than maybe anyone else I know you're very good at saying, can I invite you to look at this a different way? And then maybe you can use some feedback. I'm not even feedback. It's more like, I just, you know, it's not like this is how you should, but like, you're telling me something and I see how you're seeing it. But like, can I just ask you to maybe see it this way where you will be as hard on yourself and you will be as sad about it? I don't know. I feel like you've always been very good that way. Thanks. But you know, you don't, you have like a regular voice that you, you're not using right now. Do you want to do your real voice? Oh, yeah, I'll do my real voice. Hey guys. Oh, it's so, it was so hard to do my other voice. It hurts. Anyway, it's so great that you guys are doing this today. I love you and I have to go. I'm sorry. Yeah, go, go. I love you. Thank you for doing this. I have to go to that. Everyone's got to go. It means the world that you guys did this. Thank you for letting me like start. This is like the ground floor. Thanks for being there for me with this and so many other things. I can't wait to see you all in person very soon. I really love you guys. Thanks so much for doing it. Thank you. This episode is brought to you by Uber Eats. 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You have done many things for me over the years, including getting most of the jobs that I help me get most of the jobs that I have and the career that I have. But this means the most. This means the most. Okay, great. But I am kind of nervous. Why? Well, I mean, I guess it's funny to talk to your friends that you've known for so long and then interview them, I guess. But we should probably, I guess we should probably picture this as like, I'm going to picture that there's a room full of. Like, I'm going to picture like there's an audience. Okay. Because it's not just Jenna. Yeah, because it's the only way I can get off. No, I'm just kidding. I have to step on your neck and talk to you. You know what else I, sometimes when I hear things like this back, I go, oh my, why was my voice so nasal annoying? So should we just take a little minute to just, just let's warm up our voices. Do you remember the character that, um, Kenan did on SNL where he was a guy saying just fix it? Remember, he was like a, he was like a New Yorker that just kept going fix it. No, I don't remember that. I remember him saying, let me hold that baby. Do you remember that character? Did that air? I don't know. It was really funny. It was almost like a premise for a short story where he was just like a sweet old man in a train station. And then somebody was a young host was there with her baby. And he was, she was like, chat with him and he just goes, let me hold that baby. And it was her dilemma was like, I don't actually know this man. Like, should I let him hold my baby? And go, if he runs away, what if he smashes it like a basketball into the ground? Let me hold that baby. Okay. I don't know what that was. Like that's that's one of the that's a tiny micro version of when we try to explain the 90s to younger people of like how so many things you like. Oh, that lady would literally be fired and tried in front of a jury for asking you that in the workplace. I had a bite and smile type thing where it was a McDonald's audition. I don't have any homework, but I'm still a very good, good carriage horse because I did my work. Yes. And then after like a 36 hours it creeps back in and I'm like, "Okay, I'm going to get notes back or I'm just going to get to the next thing." I will say though, I did go back to work this fall on a set for the first time in a long time. And it was actually, and I worked hard to build it to be a really healthy set and really like humane hours and it was nice to be among other humans and making something. I also was extremely purposeful about bringing together people who I believed were good people who would not make any trouble for me. Yes. And it really made a difference. I feel like that's the success. Success? That's a luxury. It's getting to be, to realize, I only, if I can, want to work with people who I know will not think that chaos is how to be creative. And you know, I think as so many TikTok stories we won't go into which ones, but people are like hearing about movie sets and being like, "That's crazy. What's happening there?" Like that's not that crazy. Like that's pretty, movies especially are about just people going crazy and acting out and then one or two people trying to harvest a series of photographs of those people that can be assembled into a film. But it's mostly poorly behaved crazy people being indulged by various parties. And we have seen and worked at places and this is no big scoop. The SNL is one of them where people come in with their system of how they like to work. And they're like people when they're nervous or insecure are often not at their best. And the way they act is wild because they're nervous or insecure. Yeah, insecurity makes people behave wildly. I even have learned to realize that, and we talk about relationship to work, that I have now learned that I get very, very grouchy and nervous when something has to be written. Because it is like having a stomach flu and you're like, "It's the sick you feel before you either eject it one way or the other." And it's just really got to come out one end. Grouchy until it comes out. And I can at least see that pattern, but doesn't prevent it from happening. But I'm like, "Okay, here's what's happening." I feel that way about when I'm in a situation where I don't feel like there's a strong leader, like I'm being directed by someone who doesn't quite know what they're doing, or there's no one telling us what to do. Like there's no one in control. I have that grouchyness where I feel like I'm either going to have to take over here or I'm going to have to just like, you know, check out. And I've been in a couple projects where like week one, I'm like, "Oh no, like we don't have a captain, like this ship is going down." And you can see months ahead. Yeah. How do you? Yeah. I don't know. How do you just kind of, I guess you just watch funny videos in your trailer? Yeah, I think the one way is, yeah, you shut down. And the other way is you try to clumsily take over and make people uncomfortable. Yeah. Those are the only two options. They really are. But like, hold on. I'm going to take a lip balm break. Do it out. Because I need my lips or dry. This is brought to you by Lipbomb. The concept of lip balm. The lip balm foundation. I mean, it's promoting all lip balms everywhere. I mean, I guess this is friendship is letting your friend use this. I know about this because I have a middle schooler. I love Linesh. I'm a. I mean, the question is like, how well do you have to know someone with this stuff? I mean, I'm not their finger. I'm not trying to do that. Okay, you don't want to. I don't want to. Well, I'll think about that. That all day. I'm afraid it will wipe off what little colors look like. But you're not a germaphobe. I'm not a germaphobe. And I think it's a real unattractive quality in someone else when they're like a germaphobe. Especially in a man. In a man, it is such a discolored. Deal breaker. Like a man who's worried about like, I don't shake hands. It's like, you're a man. Go shake hands and then go wash your hands. You freak. Yeah, you're the one with poop on your hands. You're the one with poop on your hands. Like, who said anything about poop on their hands until you did? I don't know. But there's, well, you know a couple of you, a little germaphobe. We have to watch out. That's the thing we have to watch out for in our 50s. Is the thing that was like our cute eccentricity becomes our genuine mental illness. The thing that's like, you know how they don't like to drive. Yeah. Well, I was, I got my license had expired. And during the pandemic, you were like, you always be before the pandemic. You were like, you got to get your license back. To me, you were like, you can't be one of those older ladies that doesn't drive. I'm like, you're right, you're right, you're right. I do know. I love to drive. I do. You do, you're good at driving. I love to drive. And the name of your car is named Karen because she's a white Subaru. And I said this before, which is I feel like Amy came this close to being a Karen. Yes. Like, yeah, because as you've said, like a lot of the actual worst carons were in fact. To name Damien real life. The woman that called the guy that was bird watching was named Amy at the same time. Amy Coney Barrett was up and running. Yeah. Or getting up and running. There's a lot going on with the amies. We were, we've missed it by an inch. Yeah. It's a real. Yeah. But I feel anything you feel like you see me doing that you should like, I should be careful about. Warn you about. That's a good question. I think it is what women do for each other. As I say, like, hey, you know, like, you know, the pills that you take for your Proflying, you shouldn't take them when you're not flying flying. Well, my chair made a farce on that wasn't me. No, I feel like I know what I what you should tell me about, which is the, especially coming out of the pandemic. Yeah. My mumbling talking. Yeah. Your mom exercised. Your mom. I, when I'm thinking really fast, like it really is, even I'm like, wow, what's going on there? Like I have to work too fully for my words. What do you think is going on there? I think I stayed home a lot in the pandemic and muttered to myself. And I hope that's it. And not that's not a precursor to some kind of mental decline. It was like her muttering started when she was 53. And then she became one of the crumb brothers from the movie crumb. Everyone paused the podcast. Go watch crumb real quick. I'm trying to think if the I don't well, I know that I like I play this game with my friends is to be fun game to play together, which is like, what is the version of you? That's like your biggest fear you will turn into. I know my exactly what is it. How do I say this without saying it? I want to write it down and show it to you. By the way, I have my computer here, you know, because that's what people do with podcasts is they have their computer playing candy crush. Yeah. And no, but one window open with the whole podcast where I say really like the wrong information about everything. And then I pretend to look it up and I verify it in front of you. Oh, also, I wish I was just smoking weed the whole time. What if I just start lit up a joint? Okay. Okay. How do I articulate that? There's a certain type of strident older showbiz. Yes. That's like, listen to me, honey. I don't give a fuck. And I'm like, oh, God. But that's so not you. You're a murderer. I'm a murderer. But there's also something about the look of it that's as often as I say, like, I'm going to cut my hair and my friend G is been doing my hair for 30 years. He's like, no, no, you may not. Well, you have the best hair in the business. Thank you. People should know this. Let's get all hair cam. This is all Tina's hair. This is all my hair. Thank you. And much like skinny people who are mad about ozempic in the early 2000s when all these bitches started wearing tracks. I was like, what? You could just have what I have. This is all I have. It is it is a most incredible real hair. Thank you so much. We just did this. I just did this show called the Four Seasons that's coming out in May. And there's a scene. It's based on this old movie with Alan Alda and Carol Burnett. And there's a scene in the old movie where Carol Burnett is very angrily brushing her short hair, which is so it's like the most 1981 thing ever. Like, first of all, we know like you don't vigorously brush short hair. It's going to look terrible. But she's in the scene. She's fighting and she's brushing her hair. And I put the that's just a little bit of that in the in the show. I just put myself in the eye. And I kept saying Coleman Domingo was directing that episode. And I kept saying like, Coleman, I'll tell you what, a lot of these movie stars, they can act better than me, but they can't brush their hair on camera. Because they're all wearing fucking wigs. And they're all wearing. And so I'm like, my body is like insisted on the edit that couple shots of me brushing my hair stayed in. And then I went to the mix and I was like, oh, did you turn down the sound of my hair brushing? Turn it back up. And that's that's what producing is. That's all that's producing is it's insanity and narcissism. And it's like turn up my hair. Turn up the sound of the brush going through my hair. And we go, we don't need it and you go, we do need it. We do need it. But you have incredible hair. I feel like you should have a hair campaign. And also I always push you to have a glass of wine. Why do you not have a glass? I don't have a glasses line because I have to say, do you hate money? I do kind of hate money. As we know, I'm terrible with, I'm terrible with money only in that I'm like, You are not terrible. No, I'm not terrible. I don't waste money, but I don't get excited about money. If I, if I'm safe and I have enough money to live, I have a problem with rich people having a side hustle. Yeah, you mean like a podcast or something? No, that's as you're doing work. I'm saying if you sold like, where would my line be for you? Where would I draw the line? Yeah, I know what you mean. Like if I had a, if I had a rosé, if you, yeah, you know, if you already have like $200 million and you're like, Also, I need you to, but Tina, that is, this is where you have to learn from Gen Z. I'm sorry, and we have to. They don't care. They don't judge it. They don't judge it. Well, get, you should stop because this is the thing that you have to have a million, you have to have glasses. Well, I have my line of children's medications. And I told you that's so treacherous. No, it's by the way, one time a million years ago, I remember seeing, and I won't name this actress, but if I'm going to figure it out, I remember seeing an 80s actress promoting her line of homeopathic children's medications. I was like, why on this earth would I trust an actress? Yeah. For pediatric medications. To give to my child. Yeah. You're saying you worry about turning into a woman as we get older, as you get older, that is like a strident, opinionated. Here's how it works, babe. Right. Kind of person. Yeah. And just fighting everybody. Yeah. And just because I just think I just think as an exercise, it's fun to think about our personalities. Like what the thing that like got us here that are here sitting in front like you and I are lucky enough to have a lot of years behind us. Hopefully more years in front of us in working, getting to try all this different stuff. We're at a point in our lives where we get to, we're like in this juicy middle where we have either parents who have passed away or aging parents. We have kids who are like coming into their own. We're right in the middle of life. Let's be honest. We're more two thirds in middle, but we like to say we're middle. Although I'm going to live 200. And God forbid. What you don't want to live 200? No. Unless there's some amazing. There will be. Okay. Like new lungs, there'll be a whole thing. Money only can fix your 80s and 90s so much. That is the thing we've traveled on. We've hung around a lot of wealthy older people and the thing that they cannot get over is that they're going to die. Yeah. Like that's the thing they can't believe. But who's your guy? Who do I call? Yeah. And it's like no one. You call God. Yeah. You call them on the phone and say. Yeah. That's all right. And he says welcome to hell. And God says welcome to hell. Okay. But do you want to talk about four seasons for a second by the way? Because it is coming out. And Coleman Domingo is a prince on this earth. An angel on this earth. God. So talented. So beautiful. We're just inside and out. Like a beautiful human being. Yes. So we're doing this show. The four seasons on Netflix. I'm very excited about it. It is based on this 1981 movie that was written. And it was written by Alan Alda. Another angel on this earth. Can I tell people that I said hello to Alan Alda at your house recently? Alan Alda gave to my house. That was pretty cool. Alan Alda was a real lovely wife. Momentous occurrence. I mean, Alan Alda was huge in our lives. He was mere remains huge. Yeah. And he's such a big deal. You can't even imagine what a giant. Do you remember the super Emmy? No. One year. One year they gave out a super Emmy. So it was like, you was called a super Emmy? It was called a super Emmy. And he's the only person that ever got it. Because it was like, they won like best show, best directing, best script, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And the super Emmy goes to Alan Alda. And everyone was like, okay, that's enough of the super Emmy. They only did it once. I think they only did it once. And it was a bigger than a regular. You have to have, you should call. You have him on the podcast. He has a great podcast. He's a, I have listened to his podcast. It's one of the few that have penetrated my fortress. That's what she said. I would love to talk about it because it was a truly joyous experience top to bottom. Like one of the things I'm most proud about of this whole thing was that so many people, actors and crew came up to me and were like, this is the most pleasant job we've ever had. And it was, like I said, it was built as intentionally as possible to be all good souls. And it's Coleman, a beautiful Italian actor named Marco Calvani, Steve Carell, Will Forte, Carrie Kinney Silver, and Erica Henningson. And it's basically that little ensemble. This ensemble is pretty much, that's it. Very few day players, very few, like no real, very few guest stars. And so it was a really cozy environment. And it's a very, very gentle program that I am kind of just can't wait to see if people are interested in a gentle, a good hang. It hopefully is the TV equivalent of a good hang because it's just, you know, there's some story, but there's no zombies. There's no mysteries. Great. That's exactly truly what we're trying to do here because I can't, my nervous system cannot do two things. My nervous system cannot take it compared to the rest of the world. Yes. And also, I feel like there's this weird sometimes, I mean, you are the exact example of not doing this, I think. You like everything you make is hard jokes and hard comedy and always really, really funny. But a lot of times women specifically are asked to like be like nurturing caretakers and spaces. Like the teachers and when we were thinking about this podcast, it was like, I, all the guys get to just like goof around and have fun. And it'd be like straight comedy, escapism and our stuff has to be, I don't know, about Manipause, which also is important. Yeah. This is, I mean, for the people who want 100 jokes per minute, this is a departure. These characters are funny, but it's all completely human scale. Ooh, I love that. And he shall see. And I feel like it is just a little science experiment where people might be like, no. But TV doesn't really, like there's no TV anymore, right? It's all just like articles about TV. Right. It's just its selfishness. It's AI-generated listicles. It's TikTok about TV shows that aren't on. So what is the thing that you do? Where do you go to escape? What is like the video that you watch, the person that you watch? What is making you laugh? I have a couple things that I like to watch. One of the things I like to watch is, and again, I'm going to keep referencing TikTok. I am not a public account. You don't find me, don't look for me, don't look for me. If anyone's pretending to be you, they're fake. It's fake, yeah. But I like to watch videos of people either doing, or learning, or trying to teach, Beyonce's homecoming dance break. So either someone who can do it, or I love it when it's a person who you don't expect them to be able to do it, and then they do it. Like they're holding like a laundry basket. Yeah, so they're just like, yeah, they're a mom in their laundry room, and then they do it. I have tried to watch tutorials to try to do, I'm not a great dancer. And I know that if I was given from now to the end of my life, I could not learn the first 16 counts of that dance. Yeah. But I love watching people do it. And then the other day, I was watching a whole bunch of people doing it, and it took me one guy, like a really beautiful, ripped guy in like shorts, and no shirt doing it. And I was like, oh, this is a new layer of this. And then the algorithm was like, oh, you watch that. So you just want to see videos that are just like #RugbyBuild. And it was just like, oh yeah, guys with a rugby build. And I was like, I think I do want to watch it. Yeah. Paul Meskall started that. Like he's the ultimate famous rugby build. And then if you see in rugby where they have to pick each other up with their underwear. No, so in rugby, there's a move where the men to get the other one taller, you know, like to basically, it's almost like if you're hoisting somebody, yeah, they grab basically their shorts and underwear. And then they, that's how they get it up. And then I'm not saying that my algorithm has necessarily taken up on this, but I have seen them enough to now I do get them where men, where men grab each other by the waist. It's very feminine. It's actually like, it almost looks like, yes, it looks like a lift. But they grab each other and lift each other up. And then their penis, their cheeks are right in the line of their face, but it's totally fine. I mean, it's fine either way. Of course it is. I just mean that everyone's happy. There's no, everyone's doing exactly what they want to do. Yeah. And it's in sleaze or in slow motion. Yes. Yeah, I wasn't mad about that change in my algorithm. And okay, so another thing that I really do, the only other television program that truly brings me joy is my weekend local news in the morning. Wow. I love. And by the way, they know this and they're probably like, stop talking about us. It's getting weird. Who are your favorite characters? I love NBC4, Pat Battle, Gus Rosendale. It is, I find to be the most truly informative, nice program on the whole week. Here's what you get. I mean, you get your news. You get your national news briefly. You get your local news. Mostly local, right? Okay. Then you get produce Pete. I love produce Pete. Nice old Italian man comes out, tells you what's in season, what to make with it. Incredible. Then it used to be more frequently before the pandemic. Before the pandemic, he used to be in person. Bill's books. Nice. Gentlemen named Bill. Come, tells you what he read. What he liked about it. What he recommends that you read. Before the pandemic, they also then used to sometimes be like, here are some animals that are up for adoption. I feel like that's gone away. But that's it. And then the weather and the traffic and Pat battle and Gus, I believe they're friends. They have a wonderful rapport. You don't know what they're deal is. I mean, I don't think they're more than friends if that's what you're implying. I would never. But I feel like they like being co-workers. What a great, have I and Pat battle. Pat battle. Have I? Listen, one time it was like a hurricane or something. Was it Pat battle went out in the street. And her home town deal. She went out in where she lives in New Jersey and she was helping people push their cars. That's cool. That note, that is what America should be. Okay. It's Pat, it's Gus, it's Protos Pete, it's Bill's books. We help our neighbors. That's the America I want to live in. If you've got battle in the last name, you got to push. Right, listen, have I invited Pat battle to events? 100%. Like too many times. Does she show up? Yes, we have a good time. Great. So you've met Pat battle. I've met Pat battle. And what was that like? Did sparks fly? I mean, she was, I thought it was pretty funny that I keep bothering her. I'm obsessed with her. Pat battle's in an episode of 30 Rock. Oh, really? As herself? Yeah, we did want episode where Liz Lemmon gets invited to like a women in New Jersey. And then of course, like the gag is that they can't, they have a big screen and they can't figure out to get it to work. And then all women are all like, turn it on and off again. But it's like, it was like Pat battle, gale king, a couple other news ladies. And Andrea Martin played like the lady who was running it. And she, her character has a breakdown in the middle of the thing. And she's talking about how her husband left her. And she's like, I just remember she had some lime where she was like, I put it, my Andrea Martin impression, get ready. I put a sweater on a body pillow and I took it for a canoe ride. Like everyone, all the women lose their minds at the women in media luncheon. Tina, that makes total sense to me that that is your like fun. That makes me feel nice. And I'm also drinking coffee and we Jeff, morning. Yeah. Everything hasn't gone to shit yet. And then we can, we can plans are all possible. But the news, but that's a new, but the news is, listen, it's local. It is, it's local, but even the locals, everything's on fire. Yeah, but then it's also like, there's a food festival on city island. On produce pizza, like check out these artichokes. It's like Betty's going to make the squash pie called Mutsa Goots. Speaking of Betty, people should know that that's what I call you. That's right. That's my nickname for you. You called me that in front of Colin Joes the other day and he seemed very delighted. He and Kimbley we didn't know that. Well, we're right now not thinking about us. No, he doesn't know what we call each other. Joe's to talk about talk about an arc. Joest when we met Joe's, did you say a narc or an arc? N arc. Okay. Talk about a narc. What a narc. I was smoking weed and Joe's called the police and I was like, fuck a narc. No, um, talk about having an arc. Baby Joest as we used to call him. We met him. We went up to Harvard, the Harvard lampoon. Oh, see, that's where we met him. That's I think where I met him. Do you know what I have a terrible memory? I remember I hated every minute. You get the Harvard lamp and I needed to. What a bunch of dorks. Maybe we should just tell the story. So the Harvard lampoon invites you up and they kind of roast you. They invite you to come up and then you go there and then a bunch of like nivoli little worms. By the way, try to roast you. And they're not good. No, they're not good at it. But you and I of many times, over the years, many times I had this moment where we returned to each other and loved or hated something at the same time. And this was definitely an example where we both were like, we're not, we don't like this. And they make you go through this kind of initiation. And I mean, I wasn't in a sorority in college. No, me neither. And I don't get it. But they made you go through a whole thing and then they brought us into a big giant room and they kind of roasted us. Yeah. And we had, I think we had a lot of fun in how much we did not engage and didn't like it. But baby, Joe's was there. He was a baby. Okay. I don't remember him. We didn't get a Joe's roast, but no, he was, he was always a, but he went on to. I don't remember any of the actual people that roasted us. I remember the face of one guy. And does he, has he gone on to work in comedy? I don't believe he has. Yeah. Since then, you know why? Because you and I both have like blue collar. Yeah. I guess, rage. What would you call it? Like we're at worst chip on our shoulder at best. Yeah, like you're not better than me. Yeah. I remember having two more Harvard experiences and both involved what I felt like, like, sniveling guys roasting me because one was the hasty pudding where you really do kind of, you know, you know, you know what you're getting into and they kind of come out and roast you. Yeah. Why isn't everyone just like, no, nerds, thanks. No, thanks. Why does anyone go? I don't know. But I really did my homework on that one and I had really good jokes that I was proud of. Oh, that's good. And I really crushed them. And then I was asked to give like one of those speeches at Harvard and one of the kids. I mean, I've gotten this more than once and I hope this isn't awkward for you for me to say it in front of you. But definitely like people like to say like, you're, you know, you're the poor man's teen effect. Yeah. And so, but this kid said it before, right before I went up, so I gave him the finger, which everyone was shocked about. And I don't know who is the right. I mean, I did it, I guess. Yeah. But I go, fuck you. And again, I was like, you're on a day, yes, Amy. Like, this is a, this is, but then fuck Harvard. Yeah. Fuck Harvard. Yeah. I mean, those fucking assholes. But, um, but, um, just, but thank you for inviting me. It was a real honor. Don't lose my number forever. Go fuck yourselves. Yeah, definitely is the kind of thing where like people go to award shows and they get mad that they're getting the award. It's like, if you really, if you really don't like it, don't go. Don't go. I did go and was happy to give a speech. Um, okay. Lastly, yeah, just to kind of get started on this podcast, I had on Zoom. I had Dratch, Seth and Fred and Zarna. Uh-huh. And they all got on the Zoom and I said, I'm interviewing Tina. What should I ask her? Oh my gosh. And it was great because everyone was very excited. And of course, I just want you to know the most hilarious thing was Dratch could not get her laptop to turn on or her headphones to work. And then while we were recording the doorbell rang and her dog's dog started barking because she had ordered food. So there wasn't much content that we can use. So were there questions from them? But the one question, there were a couple questions, which is what makes you laugh. We went into that. What makes me laugh? We didn't really get into that. Yeah. We watched for comfort. The thing that made me laugh the hardest, most recently, was this clip of Bobby Moynihan from, they did these really great SNL documentaries. And it was a documentary about auditioning for SNL. And it was people you were in at, you were great in it. And they talked to people about the process of auditioning. And then they show them their audition back. And people get emotional. People, you know, they've never seen it. Or they, oh my gosh, this is from 50 years ago or whatever. And they showed, they made Bobby watch his audition back. And he's doing a character that's in his audition that's just beyond inappropriate. And he's watching it and he's watching it and he goes, oh no. And then it goes, oh, Bobby. And the way he says, oh, Bobby, the way he calls himself by name is so gentle and so it made me laugh so hard. And I think it should be the TikTok sound that people play. Like when you have to, you have to see a piece of comedy that you're like, okay, we did, we realized that that's not okay. You just show the content and just hear about, hear the voice of Bobby on, oh Bobby. And that's how you apologize for problematic content in the past. You just put the, oh Bobby sound over it and it means I see it. I'm sorry. Let's all move forward. I know better now. I know better now. I do better now. I'm an ally who makes mistakes. Oh Bobby. Oh Bobby. Oh Bobby. That really made me laugh. I couldn't stop watching it. You can make that, get that audio. You should trademark that audio and make merch. And then the other thing that Zarna had, Zarna was like, you never get asked, Tina never gets asked early questions. Which is so funny. I mean, do you feel like you don't get asked early questions? I know like, like, like what's my skin care routine? Yeah. Nothing. I mean, I do nothing, nothing, nothing, and then expensive lasers. Fred wanted to know. Fred's like, oh, also by the way, you know Fred does a great Tina impression. No. You've never seen it. No, I've never seen it. What do you mean? I feel like he's done it to you. He does the thing where he's like a mum, he mumbles. But when he comes up, the thing about Fred Armason, his impressions are never, like they never make you feel bad. Yes. At least in my experience, like they just feel like they're kind. Which is hard to do. But he comes up with like a script. You've seen this. I may be. I don't know. The physical. It's more physicality than anything else where he comes up with a script and goes, hey buddy. I just want to like, and you're giving a thought with the script, holding the script to your body. And you can't hear what you're saying. Just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, I'm like what percentage Tina Belcher am I? Well, member Shai Ronnie and just my ex-character on that. Maybe he has a little Shai Ronnie. Anyway, Fred wanted to know last question. Maybe we can talk about this before you go. So, is your dad, like a really good artist, really good at caricatures. Do you have any of that artistic ability? I wish I had more. I think both my daughters have it. I do in the summer, I go to Fire Island in the summer and I like to paint portraits in my free time. And they are terrible. And they're like, they're getting slightly better, but not at a rate that would impress them. Like they're terrible. But I look, because it's the only thing I want to paint is to try, I want to try to capture people's faces, people that I love. And I should take some classes because of course the problem is I don't draw the head right and then they come out. Like sometimes I kind of like how wonky they come out. But, you know, I love the four people in my immediate family. I am the least talented at art. My daughters are very talented. Jeff is very talented. Yeah, can draw in paint. But can I just quickly, my favorite, the story of when my dad who loved coming up to visit SNL. It was like Fred's, one of his first few shows and my dad was coming up and visiting and he was like standing in eight H while we were getting ready to rehearse update at that like five o'clock time. And Fred was in a costume for some other sketch. And he was in a tuxedo and my dad had not met him yet and he just came up to my dad and was in a tuxedo and just came up to my dad in character just going, this is Rainbow Room. I look for Rainbow Room. See, I can't tell the story because I can't, I shouldn't be doing this accent. But Fred, I guess can do it. We'll get a robot to do that. I get a robot to do it. But it was so funny. And your dad was like, why? Oh, he loved it. Oh, he loved it. And he used to paint little portraits, little characters of Fred as like Ferricito, as Prince and he would mail them to me and I would give them to Fred. And I think Fred still has one, which is I think what made him think of that question. No way. He was Fred's biggest fan. Oh, Don Fe has great taste. Like he was a great artist. He was a smart artist. Cool guy. Really cool guy. And coming back around, if Fred has Don Fe originals, I have in my children's bedrooms, I have paintings done by Barbara Joost, Colin Joost. That's awesome. That's cool. That's awesome. So it's very cool. If you are listening to this, when it comes out, Tina and I are going to be on the road. Yes, look for us at a theatrical venue near you. We have a bunch of dates and all over the US and it's been so fun and we're going to have our buddies out there with us. Is it Tina, Amy, Tina, Amy, dot com, Tina and Amy, dot com? You would think I would know. We would know. I think so. I think it is Tina and Amy, dot com. I think so. But go check it out. Check out our dates. Come see us and hopefully we'll continue to work together for another 30 years. I hope so. Me too. Love you. I love you too. Thank you. So you know, that's our first episode of Good Hang. Thank you, Tina, for coming. I did actually learn. I did learn that she learned things that I didn't know after 30 years that she obviously is in an emotional affair with her local news casters. And that's a problem. And I should let her husband know. We are at a point in the show, the end of the show, where we're going to do something called the polar plunge, which is really simply. I'm going to talk about stuff that makes me laugh and like where we're finding joy and lightness these days. And so to add to that before we go, I just want to say that. Check out my favorite sketch on SNL, the one that I returned to over and over again during COVID, during tough times in my life. When I was feeling especially down the first Debbie Downer, the Lindsey Lohan episode when they're at Disneyland, that sketch to me is the perfect example of how. A good laugh can completely change your day, your week, your life. And why it is so funny to me is that the great Rachel Dratch, whose comedic stylings and physical comedy we experienced at the beginning of this episode, when she couldn't get her headphones on. When Rachel is trying to stick the landing and get those jokes out. And we know that it's going to be followed by the sound effect. And the audience has this moment where we're all in it together. That moment is still thrilling to watch. So do yourself a favor because yes, Rachel cracks up and you know when people crack up, it can be funny or sometimes it can be annoying or whatever. And you know I grew up with Carol Burnett and like loved watching the play that they all had and how they were all trying to kind of get each other to laugh. But what's so funny about Debbie Downer in that scene and why I truly watch it for a serotonin boost is because Rachel knows what's coming and she tries her best to keep a straight face. And that she's like bursting like a silent film star. And anyway, that's what's making me laugh today. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weissberman and me Amy Poler. The show is produced by the Ringer and PaperKite. For the Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spalane, Kaya McMullen, and Alayez and Iris. For PaperKite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell and Jenna Weissberman. Original Music by Amy Miles.