"Timothy Olyphant"

(upbeat music) - Morning well, good morning. In through the nose, out through the mouth, that's it. In through the nose, and out through the mouth. - Got your hands, we're getting really low here. - No, no, no, just keep the eyes closed. - Is this normal? - Settle into your set's bones, okay? All right, and feel the spine stacking, and the neck, you don't need to feel my spine. - Wait a second. - Yeah, what is this? This is a little bit of tension right there, huh? - All right, let's get to it all new, smartness. (upbeat music) - What kind of student were both you two? Hi, I'm Jason. - Oh, hi Jason. - Were you guys both smarties? - I don't think so, I don't think you'd guess here. Bees, solid bees. - And college, it was really bad for me 'cause I would always copy in some of my eyes hurt because my face would be forward, but my eyes would be looking really hard down to the left. - Right. - At like a little computer watch? - No, it's not the guy next to me, and whoever was on either side. - Really? - Yeah, if you were a habitual cheater. - Totally. - And was he hip to it? Was he kind of like giving you a side wink and showing it to you? - No, no, one of those big, those big lecture halls, you know, I'd be like, my eyes would be like, this and they'd hurt so bad. - But how did you trust that they knew the answer? Did I mean that? - Because any guess was better than mine. - Better than you're right. - Right. - I was just talking about this recently, I didn't cheat in high school or anything like that. I never-- - No, I didn't in high school, not in high school. - No, I'd be willing to do poorly. I had moments where I was okay and then I just didn't-- Have you ever cheated in anything, Will? - No, I've never really like stolen anything. I've never really, you know, one time this is a true story. The only sort of really vivid memory I have of that is when I was a kid, when a bag of chips was still 25 cents and it was like a crowded thing in the convenience store after school and there were a bunch of kids in there was probably 11, maybe 10. And I was like, fuck it and I had to catch a thing so I just took the chips and I felt so guilty overnight. I went in the next day and I put a quarter on the counter at the store, I walked in. - Wily, I blew up. - Yeah, Wily, I'm mad. - I know, I felt, it ate away at me. I couldn't, like, I was like, oh, I can't. - Have you ever done anything that would justify you getting arrested that you've gotten away with? - No. - I was arrested. You don't have to tell me. You can just say, yes, I did get away with a couple of things I could have been arrested for had it been caught. - No, no, like-- - No, I was arrested for that turkey sandwich. - Where is? - Yeah, a turkey sandwich. - I told you, I stole a turkey sandwich in college, I was really drunk in the cops' rest of me. (laughing) I told you that. - That is, I don't remember. - I don't know if I've ever heard a more unbranded restaurant. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was in it. - Well, because in the turkey sandwich was definitely unwhite bread with mayo only. - Of course, yeah, it was wrapped. You know, it was like in a 7-Eleven or what we called a white hand. It was called white hand. - Yeah, sure. - And I was with my friends. I was so hungry and I didn't have any money so I just stole a turkey sandwich. I was really drunk. We were eating out at front and the cop just stands right in front of me. He's like, "Hey buddy, you're coming with me." And I was like, "For a turkey sandwich." And he put me in the back and I was riding in the back. And I was cuffed. Did he cuff you? - I don't remember, probably. And I was like. - You probably asked for. You said, "Wait a second, you're not gonna cuff me?" - Yeah. (laughing) - You're like, use these and you produce your own cuffs. (laughing) - I'm pretty sure I need nipple clamps. - I think you have to, you have to cuff yourself to me. (laughing) - I put the lights on in the siren. (laughing) - I know my rights. My rights are you need to cuff me. I just start yelling. Yeah, no, it was for a turkey sandwich and he took me to the station and I had to sit there until somebody I didn't know gave me 100 bucks to get out. - I mean, what? - And it's a long story. It's a crazy story. You got mystery there? - What crazy waste of resources though, right? - Yeah, yeah. - What a crazy waste of resources. That's what I was saying in the back seat. I mean, like, it's horrible that I said this. - Run in your mouth. - Yeah, I was running in my mouth because I was drunk. I was running my mouth and I said, isn't there somebody, isn't there a worst crime happening on campus right now that isn't somebody getting like sexual harassment or something? - The next go to is I, my tax is pay your salary. - Yeah. - And I did that. - That's how you all right, yeah. There come the cops. - On your boss. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Then the cops. I'm pretty sure you're supposed to pin me down on the floor. (laughing) - Like hog tie, I think. - I think we're supposed to turn the light. Light should be a little bit lower, don't you think? Shouldn't we have a glass of wine? Where are we? What's going on? - What about how I sent Shawnee? I cut and pasted the top 10 vanilla ice cream out there. And, you know, I just thought. - Number one, it's Hagen, Hagen dies. Of course, it's always the best wine. - Yeah, so good. Hagen dies. Although we like McDonald's. - Yeah, that's true, McDonald's. - McDonald's is on the list. Do they still make rum raisin? - Probably. - Why do you want some? - I just haven't had rum raisin in so long. - Well, it's got raisins in it. Why would you know? - Ice cream and raisins in it, probably. - And rum. - Now, what do they do about the rum there? Do they somehow take the alcohol out of the rum? - No, no. They're putting 100 proof rum in the bottom of the street and selling it to kids. - Well, but I really don't want to know. How did they get the rum flavor? - And there's still cocaine and Coca-Cola. - And the kids, and the kids, the kids are like, the kids are like, "Hey, you know?" And there's still. - And there's still. - All right, I'm sorry, surprise guest. - I know, the guest, no, no, no. I like that we said, you know, we had a great segment before about being justified because this guy is justified in a lot of stuff that he does, and I will say he is a multi-ME nominated actor. He has a crazy diverse list of film and TV credits. That are just insane. Comedy's dramas, recently, most recently, I think that everybody was delighted to see him in FX's Highly Anticipated Series Alien, the Alien Earth franchise. - Oh my God. - That's that Noah Holley vehicle. - He's also, that Noah Holley vehicle. He was also in Apple TV show Last year's Stick, which has got a second season coming up. Soon we're going to be able to see him in with a crazy cast with Anna Taylor Joy and at Benning and a bunch of people in this new Apple TV crime thriller series Lucky. - It's just tasty, yes. - He's a guy who, you know, and the reason I say he's justified 'cause he was also nominated for the show, the show he started and called Justified. You know him also from Deadwood. You guys, it's the wonderful, and I'm so excited Timothy Allefant. - Oh my God, Timothy. Hi, buddy. - It was really year in a day. - Dude, I listened. I was on the set of Justified with, and I was working with Eric Roberts, and he's driving and I'm sitting shotgun, and I say, there was all those ND cops around in the scene, and we're supposed to pull out in the shot and right before we rolled, I said, I said, I give you 20 bucks. You just hit one of these bump one of these cops, and he goes, he goes, I hit a cop one. It's not a good idea. And I was like, (laughing) I was like, wait, sorry. But your vehicle, it goes, no, I hit him. I hit him. - Oh my God. - And he said, this is a bad idea. They had me on the ground so fast, and then from then on, I was just, Eric, the cop hit her Roberts. He couldn't get on me. (laughing) And I said, I'm asking him, how many times you've been arrested? And he said something like in the double digits. And, but then he qualified it, because he said half of those were before he turned 18, and I wasn't sure how to take that. But, I was taken, and then he looked to me, and he goes, you ever been arrested? And I said, no. And he goes, pussy. - Yeah. (laughing) - Yeah. - I told him I was at swim practice, you know what I mean? - I happened to me once. - Oh, I love Jason's story. It's so good. - It's a full pussy style. I was it was-- - It involves Monaco. - Yeah. - It was a rest of the Monaco for being drunk and disorderly. And in a nice little leopard outfit, fresh from the casinos, all banged up on, you know, cheap champagne and a pocket full of chips. - Yeah, just got rocked. - That's the name of his biography. - So good. - Hey, but Sean, it sounds like we found a hack for you. You ever do want the hog tie? You just gotta punch the cop in the face. - Yeah, I just run it down. I just wrote that. - You got it? - No, to sell. - That's why, listen, I'm here for you. That's why, that's why I brought it. - Oh gosh, well first, it's so nice to see you. - I've seen all of Alien Earth, you're amazing in everything, but I just-- - Very kind of. - When Will said that, I love that show. You're amazing in it. - Did you see Sean's face? I knew the whole thing said that. And he's like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. - Yeah, such a good show. It's coming back now. - Hey, cool it, man. - Yeah, we search you in a little bit. Thank you, Sean. - You sound excited about it. - You know what, tell me you guys aren't the same. We shot the first season in Thailand or something, right? - In Thailand, we were in Bangkok. - Oh, wow. - And it was just a magical experience. What, but-- - I heard it was a nightmare. I mean, there's a lot of tough conditions there. I know people. - Don't put them on the spot. - Go ahead. - There's nothing better than listen to actor's bitch. Come on, it's name of my book, but don't be afraid to bitch and other tips for you. - Young actors. - That's so hot. - Look at this group here. You know, they call it like a murder of crows and like a flock of seagulls. You got a little complaint of actors. - It doesn't have the air conditioning of the Warner Brothers lot down there. - I'm with you. I'm getting to my bitch, bitch in which is, when we were there, it was quite magical. It's hot, but it's a magical, crazy, amazing place. And the more you're there, the more you know it, the more you like it, and at the same time, you're like, I hope I don't have to come back. So for season two, they say we're not, we're like, we don't want, please don't go back. And they said, no, we're not going to go back. We're going to go to either London or Budapest and no offense to, but I was like, oh, please London. London, right? London. And then you get the call from your agent says, hey, good news. Season two, London. And I was like, can't shoot in LA. I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - It goes that quick, that quick. It's like, fuck. - Yeah, I mean, I got to, yeah. - Now, but you said, right, so what is that? What's your process of thought, like getting comfortable with that? Like, we are, we are vagabonds, right? Like, you start the process very quickly. Okay, I'm going to be spending five months in a foreign land, in a hotel, or rent a place, whatever. It's like, you immediately start thinking about, you know, the justice. - Do you have a wife and children that you're going to have to figure out how to, or whatever. Your whole life at home is all upended. Start to bitch about that for me. - The wife and children? - Yeah. - Well, you start there. But just getting up, 35 years of marriage this summer. - Oh, that's great. - That's right. Seven really good ones. - Sure. - So, right now we're empty nesters. - Yeah. - Okay. - You guys are not, none of, no. - I'm not half of half empty. Since half, I'm a, I got one more year until my first one goes to college. - Yeah, so they don't, they just leave you. So just, you know, like if I did it again, I wouldn't have gotten so close. - Yeah, that's, that's serious. I've talked about it before. I think I tried to pick fights with my older one. Yeah, just so it wouldn't hurt so bad. - Did she, your oldest? - Yeah, she's 19, but she ended up going to school in, in town, so it didn't hurt quite as bad. - Well, did she just become like weeks before leaving, just like, who is this fucking devil that's taking over my child? - Right. - Yeah. - Well, no, she's, she's had a lot of, you know, as they do at that age, they spend a lot of time outside the house. So it's not, it's not, as somebody smart one said, you're not losing your 10 year old. - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - Like their, their wings are flapping well before they, they. - Yeah. - And she's a particularly good kid, I will say. She's a really nice kid. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah. - There's a Tom Pobbus has, I think it's him, has that joke that when it is, when your kids leave, nobody prepares you, how hard it's gonna be to pretend to be sad. (laughing) - But even the best kids, they tend to act up right before they leave, right? - Yeah. - They tend to be like, they got to. - Yeah, it's part of their emancipation. - Yeah. - Yeah, makes it easier to leave. - Yeah, so you're getting ready to, to go to London and you've got to like, switch it all up. You got to kind of like start to prep. I'm about to do the same for six months through Atlanta and I'm like, all every day I think about, how's that gonna go? How's that gonna go? - Wait a second, hold on, we're breaking news here. - No, well it's got a big job, it's super exciting. - No, but anyway, but six months in Atlanta. - Yeah. - Well, how come I don't know about this yet? - Because you're not on my call sheet. I mean, I'm looking at it right now. - Can you just like hit me with a memo or something? - But, so like that, you know what that, we've done it before, so you know what that's like. - So you're getting ready to go to and overseas, is it? - What's the hardest part for you? It's always the transition, right? I don't know, you tell me, once you're there, I feel like it's always lovely. - Yeah, it is, yes, but if you've got, if you've got like, Will's got kids back at home, so they're not gonna be able to be with you, I forget. - Yeah. - I was, I was very fortunate. I got so lucky, I mean, partly by design and partly just 'cause I failed at getting jobs. But I more or less got to work in live in LA for the majority of my kids. - Was justified in LA? - Just dead, literally had dead wood for three years and then justified for, I think it was six and then did this thing Santa Clara diet for a couple and they were all, they all shot here. - In Santa Clara, Santa Clara eat all that. - They were all insane. I basically lived, yeah, as I thought I was in show business. - But even in town, aren't you like, I can't wait to get home? - Yeah. - By the way, even in town, you're like, I gotta go to the valley? - Yeah. - Right, that's where the real company, why can't I shoot at the fox lot? - My kids were small, it was great. I just show up to work to take naps. You know that, so when my kids were really small, I was like, look, I just go to work so I can get some sleep. - Yeah. (laughing) - I know, we used to have an office Jason who complained that I didn't want to go to my office and then I had another office for my company and I'd go there and I'd show up and see my partner and I'd be like, hey, hang on a second and I'd go and shut the door and I'd get all the cats and take a nap. Oh my God. - Oh my God. - Well, I know 'cause I'm tired. - I know, I'm tired, man. - I know, I know. - You know, dude, in my intro, I started going through your credits and I was gonna start at the top. - You have so many credits. You've done so much stuff of such variety. It's insane, man. I mean, you're like, you're so unbelievably versatile and when you started as an actor, well, first of all, you're born in Hawaii and that you're raised in California. But when you started, when you were first a young actor, did you have like a particular lane you thought you wanted to go in 'cause you've eliminated the lanes. All the dotted lines evaporated for you a long time ago on whatever road you're on. - Well, you're very kind, first of all, and by the way, back at you because I just saw, literally just a few nights ago, is this thing on? - That's the title, right? - Yeah. - Well, lovely, lovely performance. - This is lovely. - So, isn't it great? - He's lived in in present, like you weren't, you know, that lovely thing where you're like, this just must be what he's like. 'Cause, you know, and obviously your comedic work is off the charts, so it all changed. - My God, it was really just a lovely, lovely, beautiful, lived-in performance, so. - Sean wasn't terrible in it either. Look at Sean. - Sean was delightful. - My God, I didn't realize that. - Which one was you? - I didn't realize that from that. - Yeah, this is a good question. - I was either Steven or Robert or something. - We definitely have one of those. - Now that I look at you, I'm like, yeah, you were there. - You guys all have this, by the way. You guys all have the crazy range. Sean, you're like, in the willing grace, you're doing physical comedy at the ultimate level of effortlessness, and then you're on stage doing this incredible, dramatic work. - Well, thank you, thank you. - Yeah, everybody's really good at it. - Jason, you also, you do the acting, and you do the voiceovers. - Oh, you are an actor. - It's huge, you're an actor, you go from both. - You're an actor. - Right, we're right now. Again, I'm looking at you guys. - This is amazing. - I remember you from the '80s. - So, but I'm sort of back to my question, and I don't know, I kind of, actually, you know what I'm just saying to all of you guys, but Timothy, I want to hear from you first 'cause I listen to these ding-dongs all the time. Did you, when you started, were you like, 'cause I remember, I moved to New York, I'll start. I wanted to be a dramatic actor, I thought, 'cause I didn't know any better. I didn't know anything about comedy, or how you get to it, or it wasn't even, so I was like, I want to be a dramatic actor. Did you have that? Where you're like, I want to be taken seriously. I want to do important stuff. You know, this stuff that we is young and fake. - You don't think acting is comedy. You think acting is drama? - Yeah. - Right, right. Again, memory's not a reliable narrator here, but my favorite actors were actors who gave comedic, dramatic performances. They're just, that's what I, you know, I always felt like T'Nero knew he was being funny in those roles, even the most dramatic roles. He must have known, right? - Yeah, yeah. - When he's doing taxi driver, he knows that's funny, right? - Right, right, right, right. - Doesn't he? - Right. - There's some moments for sure. - I wonder, I wonder, that's a good question. He might. - Right was, I always, I just assume when he's doing that, you talking to me, he knows that that's comedic timing that's happening there, right? - Yeah. - Well, did you see him in "King of Comedy?" - Well, exactly, right? - Yeah, I mean, it's just incredible. Incredible. Acting performance. - So when he did comedy and some people were like, I don't know, wow, who knew we could do comedy? I was like, raise my hand. I was like, well, I think it was there from beginning, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I don't know, you don't, I still, I feel like Will Farrell. - Yeah, Will, but like that. - Will Farrell is playing these eccentric characters that are funny because they're eccentric, but it takes great acting chops to be believably eccentric. - I think this is the flip side, which is the best comedic performance is really dramatic. - I think the through line is always its commitment, right? And so you're committed, you know, as long as you're committed to the bit, whether it's dramatic or comedic, you have to be committed. Jason, to your thing, like you can never wink, which is why when you see people who are doing stuff when they're too aware, then you're like, okay, I don't buy it as much. But if somebody's committed to the thing, you recognize that is feeling. And then one of the funniest things I think is when people commit to being non-committal. You know, like when you do, like when you do places, like when you do really bad acting on purpose, that's one of the funniest, I love that. You know, when you see somebody doing bad acting for real, yeah, yeah, you think for real. - We'll be right back. And now, back to the show. - Tiffany, do you know what, do you know what's saying for real? - No. - I have this thing. It's a row came up with it years ago, which is, it's so embarrassing. - Yeah, it makes you feel like- - So like if you're driving in the car with a friend or whatever, our song comes on the radio, and if you say to the other person, sing for real, they have to sing that song, and they can't do any, like you say it's like, saddest fashion by the stone. You can't do like, ah, can't, like you can't put anything on, you have to do it as real as possible. - Yeah, and it's really uncomfortable. - So what? (laughing) - It makes your skin crawl. Like if I had, we did it in the documentary too, but I had, we'll do it in the car one time, and I couldn't even look at them. It was so, I couldn't, it was so horrible. - Yeah. - It's the worst feeling. - We're driving with your pants off. - Yeah. - And you're, it's fun to use this satisfaction, because I don't think of that as being like singing it for real, but it is, no matter what, you really are saying, like this fucking man comes on the radio, you're right, and telling you, "Why did your shirts can be?" And he can't be a real man, like you're with an in-us. - Yeah, sing for real satisfaction. Sing, sing a totally real right now. - No, yeah. - Don't make him do it. - Do it. - Me? - Yeah, you have to do it. - Go. - I'm not doing it. - I'm going to do that so rough in the face too. (laughing) - It's so rough to do it. - See, he's just thought about it. You just thought about it, like I can't do it. I can't do it. - I'm looking at Will, and I'm thinking, I have to do it based on that reaction. - Anything not to do it. - You can. - Give me some lyrics. - I can't. - I just know, look, this is not singing though. I don't know. Okay, I can't sing. Let's start there. - You can't do like a Mick Jagger impersonation. - No, you can't. - You have to do it. - You have to sing for real. - I can do. - Yeah, there you go. - You have to sing it like you're recording it for real. - You have to do it. - Okay. - So I just listened to this yesterday, and if I'm not mistaken, I had not said, when a man comes on the radio, it tells me useless information is the guy in the radio, given the useless information, is he telling them how white his shirts can be? Come on, everybody. Who's telling them how white his shirts can be, and who's telling them useless information just to drive my imagination? - Let me see, let me see. - It's the DJ. He's yelling at the DJ. - My imagination. - When I'm driving in my car, and the man comes on the radio, tells me, how white my shirts can be. - Oh, some useless information. - What, was he saying it there? God damn it. - No, no, no, it's later, hang on, hang on. Are you ready to sing on? Here we go. - I just love my favorite thing about this song, by the way, is that he's a, make it one point says, 'cause he's on a losing streak, and I just love the idea that Mick has having a hard time with the, you know, like he was having a tough time. And that guy was really getting under his skin, 'cause he was bright. - Yeah, let's be real. Listen, he wrote it. I'm convinced as much as that guy sometimes seems like a, - That guy's never been on a losing streak. - I know, but he must have been a man. - Buddy, I think there's some possibilities there. Those songs are too good. - Right. - I always wonder about people who write love songs and stuff about heartbreak, and then they're like, is that they have this much heartbreak? Always? Or like, what are they drawing on? I don't know, in any way. - Anyone with a happy childhood ever went into show business, buddy. - Was your family in a show business? - Hire? - No. - Did your family in a show business? (laughing) - Yeah, we're at the acting bug. - Yeah, how did that happen? What happened? - It just was late as a hunch. I mean, yeah. - Just for you, nobody else in the family. - Oh, this would be good. If this doesn't work out, I get the ceramics to fall back on. - But where were you? Where were you geographically when you went? You woke up that morning and you had this hunch. You listened to the hunch, you went, I'm gonna be at it. - All right, I'll tell you the chances of me keeping this short or slim, but here we go. I'm gonna go ahead. - One, I will say that when I was a kid, I really had a whole idea of fantasy of being in like, show business or in comedy. And when I'd say, I wanna do that, like Steve Martin or something, my mom, God bless her. She would always say things like you don't wanna be, you don't wanna be like them. They're like, you know, they're like on drugs and divorced. You don't want that life. You know, they're all divorced. By the way, cut to yours later, I was like, you're divorced. What the fuck? - Yeah. - Yeah. - Girl, the Modesto. - You want drugs? - We are, we're in Modesto. - Oh, yeah, I'm in Modesto. - And yeah, so I grew up Modesto and then I went to college in LA, I went to USC. I was a fine art major because I always drew as a kid. And when I found out that was a major, I was like, you know, I thought I was getting away with murder. It couldn't really let me do it. I didn't know that that was a thing. - Like you could draw. - So you have a degree in drawing. - They'd give you a degree for that. - Yeah. - You have one. - I went to, I got one like just, I finally got that a few years ago. - So you didn't finish it. - But I did four years ago, but I didn't get my degree until, you know, just a little bit of you. - Ah, it was great. - I'll need to hear more about that. - And then you see actually gave me the honor. - You brought it on the black mark at the way. - Yeah, they bought it, by the way. They, I think it was like anything. It was like one of those COVID things. So I was like, you know what? And my kids were getting ready to get their degrees. And I was like, I gotta, I should, this is the time to do it. Is he's a striker at COVID and I went back and finished up. And then they gave me the honor to go at USC, yeah. And worked with my, the same professor, who's a lovely experience, the great Ruth Weisberg, who was my professor when I was there. And she still teaches. - That's wild. - She and I got to do a independent study, but it was wonderful. And then I got to go speak at the graduation ceremony for the fine art and all that, which I thought was hilarious, 'cause all those kids accomplished in four years. What took me like 32, and I was there to give them advice. - What were you thinking that fine art degree was going to a four deal career wise? Like, what are all these kids? What do you take that into? Like graphic design and, and, and, - Well, 'cause one of my daughters is that that's her jam. She's really gifted as an artist. My eldest daughter is actually a student at SC right now. And she's loving it. - Absolutely. - Congratulations. - Yeah, thank you. So should I encourage the 14 year old to continue drawing, were there options explained to you there at the school? - Well, first of all, of course you have, of course you encourage her to do what she loves doing. - Yeah, I'd chase you. - You don't do anything. - It's not looper going down. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. She's gonna become a coder and learn Mandarin. (laughing) - Oh God. You know, yeah, what else are you gonna do, right? Keep going, honey. - No, she's gonna code. - So here's what I understand now. Kids who get like a bachelor of fine arts, these just have to have so many different directions they can go. And they're thinking, and to some degree, I think they're very attractive in whatever workforce, 'cause they were kind of just thinking outside the box all the time and being creative. Once someone gets their masters, they're gonna be like a being artist. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Okay, good job. - Sean, what's your degree in? - My degree is, I never graduate, but I got an honorary doctorate in music, yeah. - Oh, you never graduated? - No, mm-mm. - This is breaking news. You have buried the lead on this for a long time. - I went four years as well, and then I got an honorary. - I didn't graduate high school, so you guys got me be. - Yeah. - It doesn't show. - No one's ever seen it. - It doesn't show. - It's not about you. - Sometimes. - Sometimes. (laughing) - You're doing great. - You aren't doing great, but wait. So you get this degree from USC in fine arts and drawing, and you're ready to start drawing stuff or tagging bridges or doing something. And then you go, at the end of all of that, you go, you know what? Sir, what, you're in LA and you're like, I wanna be an actor? Like, how did that? - I do think I had a certain amount of conscious thinking that I was going on to put off a midlife crisis. That I was like, whoa. Yeah, I really did. I was like, I think my parents were split, and they were, my dad was going through his, his, his, and I just thought, that doesn't look fun. And, you know, there's, you always, you know, oh, I always wanted to do this, but I never did it. So I became this. So I was considering going to get my masters in fine arts. It's really kind of what I wanted to do. You know, like when, when grandparents and stuff would ask you, what are you gonna, that degree, what are you gonna do with it? At first, you're like, I don't wanna be an artist. And that, you see the expression on their face, and then you start saying, or I could do commercial work. I could do it. You're talking about all the things you could do. But I really just wanted to be an artist. And, you know, I was like, going to galleries, and like, you know, in LA and museums, and Chris Burden, and Baldassari, all these people were big inspirations. But there was a bunch of things I always wanted to try that were on my mind. Like I knew I always wanted to do stand up. I always thought about it would be fun to be an actor. I thought it'd be great to be in a band, you know, things like that. And I thought I should try to cross all these off before moving forward. - Those all take a great deal of courage, though. - Well, what doesn't? Well, yeah, well, I mean, certainly standing up in front of an audience all alone, with a mic. microphone is sort of the zenith of balls. - Yeah, I was thinking of that on your movie. I felt like they captured this thing that no one prepares you for when you do standup, which is the moment you step on the silence that you're creating by yourself. - Yeah, real quiet is terrible. - It's so quiet. No one tells you that it's gonna be that quiet before you level the world. - Like the healthy respect I had for standups and what they do before was huge. And then it was just magnified the first time, I remember the first time going down at this comedy seller and I was getting introduced as my character, as Alex Novak, but I remember the first time going up there and trying to go up as a guy who had never done it before as well. I'm probably saying to me like, we're doing something different. Don't try to rely on tricks. You have to go up and do this as this dude who's never done it. And going up there and just standing there. - It's fucking, you just feel like it's so quiet and you feel like, oh my god, I'm about to fall off a cliff here. And it's the best and the worst at the same time. It's simultaneously just like the most terrifying. So yeah, standups, what they do is just like, fuck man, like round it. - And you tried it? Timothy, did you do it? - Yeah, I did it for a little while. - Right around the corner from comedy seller in New York was a place called Boston Comedy Club, and I was just good. - Oh yeah, of course. - Oh, you did, huh? - Yeah, I did. - Do you still remember some of the jokes? I'll tell you some of mine. - Oh, Sean is a really famous first one. - Sean's got a great opener. - Yeah, great, go ahead, Sean. - Before he asked me to say-- - He told them before, but Timothy, he just responded to the joke. - Sean, this relationship is like a Tim, sing for us. Hey Tim, tell us some jokes. - Yeah, perform for us, Monkey. - Look, he's right here in New York, a Monkey. - Sean went, we shouldn't want to talk to him. - Once you went the appetite, here we go. - My opening joke was, you know, they say ballet is one of the most difficult things to do. So I just say don't do it. - Fuck. - And that's the joke, Tim. So, I mean, that's it, there's never gets good. - No, never gets old or funny. (laughing) - Well, I appreciate you calling me Timothy, but you know, you can call me Tim. - Can I call you Tim? I didn't know you can. - You can call you Tim. - Sean, you as well. - Okay, Gaeteman. - Not, not so much. - Just your close, you're close. - Do you guys know each other a little bit? Do you guys have a-- - Yeah, we went together for a, yeah. We did, not as this thing on. This is where I leave you. Close, close, close entitled. - This is where I leave you. - And you remember, 'cause you, by the way, I'm at Tropicia's office. That's where I am. - Oh, are you really? - Yeah, I need a computer. I guess you can't do your shelf. You don't own a computer. - Do you own a computer? - No, I don't. It turns out I didn't realize that. - Fuck. - Whoa, whoa. - Fucking red is last. - Let's start there. - Well, I mean, I got like a, you know, I got a phone and I got a thing. That's all you got to do. We're backing up. We're starting from here. - I don't buy it. You don't have, and you being an artist, you don't have an iPad with one of those little, the one of those little stylist tense penn thingies that-- - No. - No. - Wait, Jim. - With the pencil in the paper. - You don't have a vacuum on the ball. - Fucking baller. - Wait, you really truly don't have a computer? - I don't, well, I, let me, 'cause I, I think honesty is very important in this. - Sure. - Thank you, thanks for not lying. - We went, I had a, we went and got out a old desktop computer that we still have in the house and plugged it in and started it up. And they were all USB things. And I was like, I don't think I can, it won't, I need to get out of this. - Just for the purposes of doing the podcast, you tried to do this. - We're doing this, yeah. There's a lot of sacrifices that went into this, guys. And you have your own and I appreciate it. I'm like, I'm super honored and it's a pleasure to be here. I'm a big fan, I listen, I don't listen, but I read the transcripts and it shows very, very, very good. - Sure, sure. - It's better in written form. - The entry comes across in the print. - I remember getting a note from our producer saying, we're gonna be producing transcripts for Tim Olafont and we're mailing him to him every day. - But wait, Tim, you've never been tempted to buy a laptop or a desktop just to see the landscape out there. - It's going on. - Like all the different sites you can go visit to expose yourself to little. - Jason goes on a lot of sites and exposes himself is what he's trying to say. (laughing) - Hey gang, have you ever seen one of these? - Hey gang. - Hey gang. - Wait, wait, wait, wait, this is so dope that you don't have a laptop. Jason has a hundred laptops. They're all brand new just to look at baseball scores. - All these talk about AI and stuff. Not curious to see what the fuss is about. - But you can do all that on a fun of little phones. - I guess you can't, but you're always spreading and spreading and clicking and spreading. - Don't do your fingers like that. Stop doing that. - It's spreading and sliding. It's just like, oh. - How about Chris Nolan doesn't even have a phone. It's, I'm like, I don't want to do people without a phone. It's the most exciting relationship. When you, if you know someone without a phone and you're like, all right, so we're meeting at like seven, you know, dinner at seven tomorrow. And then on the way there, you're like, this, I'm so excited, it's like being in high school again. - Yeah, they'd be here. Remember, we're old enough, remember like being teenagers and being like, hey, so you'll run into people. You'll go, well, let's do something and you have to go there. And then, and then you'd run into people maybe there. And maybe they were there. - Is she the next place? Where were you? - And the night when it unfolded, if you go out at night, the night would just kind of unfold the way it was going to unfold. - Well, what about directions? What about Dre? Remember when you used to have a map, a map book, the Thomas guide or even the Thomas fold out map, or just a sheet of paper with the list of directions. Are you gonna turn left on such and such? Then go a mile, then turn right on such and such. - We're gonna ask people for directions. - You know what's embarrassing, embarrassing about having a friend without a phone as you're going to meet them. Let's say it's a seven o'clock, you're meeting them at dinner. You realize that we oftentimes like, like, hey, on my way out the door, ETA, I don't know if I-- - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - And then it's like parking, like you're literally giving the play-by-play on the way there. It's when you don't have that option, you realize how embarrassing that is. - But you do, you do have a phone. I have a phone, yeah. - You do have a phone. - How about this? I was talking about this the other day with people, how about when you have plans, even with somebody you do want to see, and they go, can't make it, and the relief of not having to go to something, is so great when somebody fails. - They're like, hey, I can't make it, 'cause then you're like, oh, no problem, and you're thinking, oh, God, I can't do this. - Found time. - Found time. - Yeah, it's money in the pocket. - Yeah, finding a 20-in-old Jack, yeah. - Hello, friend. - Hi. - Hi. - Wait, you know, I want to say I'm talking about old friends and working together, makes me think justified, which was so good, and you were so good, and it was amazing, and over the-- You said it was five years, I didn't realize it was fine. You did it with our old friend, certainly Sean and my old friend, Margot Martin Dale. - Oh, me, I don't know who I am. - Do I have Margot Martin? - Margot Martin nice to have one of those, would be one of those people that when people say your name, everyone just goes, well, I'll guess what? Guess what, you're one of those people. You're one of those people. You are. - Sean starts. - No, it's true, it's true, it's really true. - It's really true. - I think you are. Yeah, Margot Martin Dale, I mean, I will say, what an absolute, just a legend. - I haven't had the pleasure yet. - Oh, dude, I'm a huge fan, though. - Yeah, she would love her. - I remember years ago, she did that one of Krasinski's movies, and so she didn't know John, and he asked me to introduce him to her, and ended up being really, really good. And so I said, hey, John Krasinski wants to call you, and can I give him your number? And she was like, okay. And then she called me and she goes, "Look, I told him I'm going to do his fucking movie, "so I better be fucking good or else this is on you, "because you fucking forced me to do this." I was like, wait. - So good. - You know, Margot, I mean, that's so unbrand for her, and she ended up being wonderful, obviously. But she's the best. - Yeah. I had the pleasure of sitting next to her when she won an Emmy, and it was such a lovely moment. I remember, I don't know why it pops in my head, 'cause all that is what I spent a year with, you know, that personality you're just talking about. And such a, like, whether the camera was rolling or not, you just felt like you were getting this authentic connected, amazing, just, it was so easy. And then we were at the Emmys, and her category was before mine. So I just remember that when they were sitting next to her and they're announcing the names and all that, and then they say the winner is, and when they said her name, she squeezed my hand, like I could have bruised me. I get the squeeze that happened. It was the first time I kind of understood what the awards meant. You know, I was like, oh, that moment, when that involuntarily, like, oh my God, you know, and then it was so moving. Not much of a story, but it was so much, that I remember sharing with her. - Well, then she forgot to thank you. Did she thank you when she got on stage? - She did, no, she did. - She did, she was also, she was classic. - She did. And now back to the show. - But Timothy, you know, Tim, sorry. - No, no, no, so familiar. - Tim's T-Dog, T-Bog. - T-Dog, did you, I remember that. I, I, the other day, and I'm just remembering, I scroll through my feed on Instagram. I saw a clip of you telling the story about Deadwood. about. It was so funny. Can you tell what happened again? It was like the worst deadwood story or something. It was so funny. I mean, I don't want to get away. And if you don't want to tell it, it's, you don't have to. No, not already on Instagram. It's already. But it's so funny. It was so small. Well, you know, milk stories. You guys know the milk that you guys have heard the milk stories over the. We've heard some, heard some rumblings, but I bet you're Tracy is not. No, it's not. She's not, she's not hipped to the Hollywood stories. David Milch, by the way, his, my way, his book. Have you read his, the red? No, I don't, I don't know. David Milch for Tracy created deadwoods amongst the other things. Yeah, NYPD Blue, Hill Street Blues, deadwood, and, and just a legend of a, of a writer and one of these guys who like, you know, graduated first in his class at Yale at a heroin addiction, you know, like a combination of brilliance and life experiences that often don't go together, you know. And so almost every day on that set was these kinds of stories. But we had a, we said the second season, there was, we had a storyline where I'm married to my, it wasn't what really happened in real life, which, and my character was a real guy. I said, Bullock, but anyway, he was married to his brother's widow and was raising his brother's child as his own kind of thing. So we had this whole as kid and, and like a lot, I think there was rumblings on set one day that there was some issue with with the kid as either as wraps or as mother, but David was really upset about something. And, and I was like, I don't, I'm not gonna pay attention. I'm just doing my thing. All I know is that by lunch, it was a knock on my trailer door, and I open his David, which is unusual. And I said, what's up? And he says, we're gonna kill the kid. And we're just gonna kill him. This is the next minute. It's so good. Such classic show of his moment that happened after that. He goes, I said, really, he said, yeah, we're, we're gonna kill the kid. And this is the show of this part. He goes, it's gonna be great for you. It's gonna be really, it's gonna be some really nice, some wonderful, there's more room for you. And then one great great moment, some wonder moments, these amazing moments. And he's gonna be tram, he's, and killed, and you'll be, oh, and his, his bad side. And, and he talking to him. And as if your, his brother, your, his brother, your brother, wonderful. And it's gonna be good for the kid too. And, uh, you'll free him up for other opportunities. And yet we did, uh, the whole season was, this epic story that, that, that, that whatever happened that morning, turned in to the season. That's so amazing. That's amazing. JB, JB is an actor who directs or how cognizant are you of being, of understanding the process that they're going through when you're giving it out. Yeah, I mean, it's all about, you're gonna get a worse performance if you leave that note session with the actor and the actor feels bad. You know, so it's, it's, it's, it's all people skills, right? You just got to, you got to prop him up while you're telling them to be different. Here's my, I did a movie with Larry Kaz and just a dream working with him and he came up to me after, I think more than one take. Yeah, it was a couple because he said to me, he said, uh, at Tim, uh, there's a joke there, but we wouldn't know it because you keep putting it up. Should we just move on or do you want to try to get? Hey, Tim, you get this, right? And it's like circles a line. Very usable. I'm like, okay, lightening. That was a good. Yeah, I just had another, that used to run me. I just did this play in New York and the, and, and Lee Sellerman who's brilliant. She's an incredible director and a good friend and she goes at the first run through. It's a one-man show. I did the whole thing the very first time and they afterwards they go, I feel like I'm just saying words and she goes, yeah, yeah, it looks like that. Wow, which was great, which was great. Yeah, there's the kick in the, I needed a kick in the pan. But you were just so happy, you got through it and you didn't forget a line all that probably, right? I mean, that was the big test. Yeah, but I mean, I needed, I needed to actually think about what I was saying. Now, on the other hand, I did, I did a couple of months with Soderberg, forgive me for your name. That's what you do here. Sure, sure. Three months, yeah, not a single note. Yeah, that's three months. That's terrifying in its own way. Three months. And once I was in a car with him, I was drive, it's just me and him and, and he's, you know, operating and I got back in the car and I said, well, what do you think? And he goes, if I on a scale of one to 10, that was a seven, maybe an eight. And I was like, I'm cool. That was, so that was technically our one exchange. No way. No one performance exchange. Yeah, but he's also editing too. No, it's interesting. I was going to say, I was, yeah, he is, but I was, I was going to say interesting. He mentioned Soderberg, because he is operating. And when we were doing our movie with, the, is this thing on with Bradley and real friends? And he's also operating, right? Bradley operated that whole film. So he, and as you know, is very close, you know, he's like cameras in my face. And we'd start to roll, we're rolling the robot. And he put the camera up. We haven't even started it. And then he put it down for a second. He'd look and he's like, this far, and he'd go, no acting. And then the camera right back up. And he was like, like, I love that. And he was right. And it was so disarming. Like, you know, I had one time. Also, I did, I did one of these, I did two of these ninja turtle movies years ago, like 10, 15 years ago. And we were in, we were in Madison Square Garden. And it was produced by Michael Bay. And, but he came in one day to shoot all this stuff at Madison Square Garden. We shot at a next game and then they cleared out and then we did this stuff on the floor. And he decided to operate. He wanted to do this one bit where the kind of, and like, the camera goes up this action and up to me in the front row. He goes, okay, we said, and it was like, Keanuck and stuff was going. And he's really on top of it. He knows where everything is. And he's got a crane going at the same time. And he's operating. And he's cameras down. And he's like, following along the ball. And then he just go like this. And then he just goes right up onto me and just goes, say something funny. I'm like, oh, literally like that. It was a nightmare. And I'm like, I said something super sweaty. Yeah, exactly. I can't wait to talk a little bit about, well, you got a couple things coming. You've got this mini series called the Five Star weekend. Kids moved out. I've been working more than ever. I mean, you have, I guess I don't have to go to a tennis tournament this weekend. So yeah, let's go. Alien Earth is renewed for season two. Stick season two is a bit renewed for season two. That was a joy of a gig. Adventures of Cliff Booth was, which is coming out around Christmas time. Speaking of no notes, venture. And you have to talk about adventures of Cliff Booth. I want to know about this. Yeah, what is the film? The, the, yeah, that's the prequel to Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Oh, is it prequel or sequel? It's a sequel. Yeah, sequel. But isn't it, is it the time before Once Upon a Time in Hollywood? If I get this wrong, uh, it wouldn't be that surprising, but I'm pretty sure it's after, you know, it's after. Okay. It's, yeah, this is, it's the, it's the adventures of Cliff Booth. And it's later. Gotcha. I think we're, uh, I think we're in the 70s. And so Fincher, light touch. Um, I'm not, I'm not saying that sarcastically, but I, I would imagine performance notes. My favorite thing to do was this after we finished a take is before he said anything, I'd say, can I get one more? Yeah. If I could just get one more. Once again, Tracy, he, he's famous for many takes. We're talking, right? Yeah. I'm telling Tracy. That's good. That was good usage of Tracy. And thanks. Uh, yeah. So we would do, yeah, we did. I did a scene, um, yeah, for like two days, a day and a half. I didn't, we, like, it was, I'd never done anything like I felt like I was pledging a fraternity, felt a little bit like, like, oh, uh, let's go again. Let's do it. Fuck yeah. I want to be part of this. Let's go. Is it technical? Yeah. Was it mostly because of technical and framing and composition thing? Honestly, it's, um, it's oftentimes, uh, multiple. It's oftentimes a, uh, everything. It's okay. On that moment, you know, maybe this. And then, uh, when you lift your hand up, show me where it is. Okay. Now move it just an inch left. Okay. Now down just a half inch, lift it right there. And I go, okay, slow that. So it's everything from when you lean forward, don't lean quite that far a little there. It's, so everything, it can get super, super technical visually, but it can also get, um, very, very specific about, uh, you know, when you do that, maybe it's more of a, an order. Maybe it's more of a like, you, so will sometimes be performance. It's almost like doing a run of a play, you know, like a scene, but you're doing it so many times, you're doing it the master, you're doing like 20 times and then you're pushing in 20 times and, you know, like, so for a day and a half, you're just doing this scene. What was the most number of pages you did on one day? Was there ever more than three pages in a day? I bet there were. No, I'm very briefly in it. So I just I'm showing up for this this thing and I don't know how many pages that was, but we shot it for a day and a half. Wow, I love it. Yeah, we didn't my coverage was day two. It was kind of it was fascinating and because you so I loved it. I really loved it. And I think years ago when I was reading about him, I just thought no fucking way life's too short, but for whatever reason at this point in my it's I just was like, yeah, let's do 30 takes. I've great. Oh, man. I just we've wanted it's an experience. It's nothing else. But though it's it throws you to a there's a real quality that starts to happen that you don't expect, which is you're doing it so many times it's hard to shut out the voice that feels like you're doing it wrong. Yeah, you know, and that's the kiss of death, right? So you have to so it's hard to you also start to lose your instincts because I mean, it really does. It really is like a you know, it's like I pledging the fraternity here and they're going to break me down and I'm not going to I'm not going to talk about that. He's talked about some of the strategy is because yeah, if you do a great take, you know that feeling, right? Jason, way you finish the take and you think that just felt so money. The fact that they you're going to do 15 more after that take you start to go maybe wasn't that good. I don't know what you have to shut that voice out because you just have to realize. But he talks about that sometimes he'll do a bunch of takes just to get the actor to stop acting, you know, because you just run out of acting ideas and then you just end up just saying the fucking lines and yeah, that's sometimes what he's looking for is I don't want performance. Just say the lines and yeah, let's just ride down the wall. Just call out a friend. Right. Exactly true enough. You do it too much. Yeah, but isn't I feel like I've gotten my I mean, say this was the greatest saw, but for the most part, my technique for the last decade or so has been memorizing the lines and then memorizing them to exhaustion. So I show up hopefully in that place. So then to show up and then keep going. It's like you have to read just sure. I was always like, does this put me on the 405 this next week? Like, you know what I mean? Like, uh-huh. What do they mean? Sure. How do you expect me to act like this? How do you expect me to act that well? When you've seen the craft service table and we both know that's fucked up. Yeah, terrible. Wait, so we have to because we I can't believe it's been an hour already. I feel like I could talk to you about this shit for fucking ever. Yeah. Talk about Lucky. Lucky is about to come out this new series. We have to mention it. Yeah. So I got lucky is also with the same preface as the whether it's a pre-core or a sequel. If I get some of this wrong, it won't be surprising. Okay. But I believe Apple is not Apple TV and it's annu-tailored joy in that Benny. That's great. Yeah, lovely. Trapper, uh, wrote it, uh, he's, he's the movie, you know, you and I did together. Yeah, um, Jonathan Trapper. Kind of a thriller. Friends of neighbors. Trapper, right? Correct. There you go. There you go. Yeah. Um, so that was cool. And then there's this, uh, that was fantastic. That's, that's good. No, that's good. Very good. Great. Great. Great. Great. People are leaning forward. Yeah. No, they're going to watch it now. Yeah. And now I'm going to cut, I'm going to move on. So that just leaves them wanting more. And then there's the, um, uh, the five star weekend with the Jennifer Garner and, uh, Peacock. That's lovely. That was, uh, look at you. You just go, go, go. I love it. It's really awesome. It's insane. It's kind of fun. And, uh, yeah, thanks. I appreciate it. And then, um, yeah, I know the kids moved out. It's just, - I think it was a lot of time on the hands. - Yeah. - And then the, when it was the Larry David thing, I think, heirs after-- - Curb Your Enthusiasm? - Before this cousin. - No, that 250 year thing. So that was fun. - Oh, shit. - He's gonna play at Trump's 250 year-- - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - He's filling in for Millie Vanilli. - Oh, they filled it. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I'm just doing percussion stuff, I guess. - For you. - Yeah. - Playing the Maracas. - I'm in that, too, Tim. - Oh, yes. - Yeah, yeah. - And? - It's fun? - Yeah, super fun. And when I think it comes out soon, like in June or something, or July. - Well, July. - Yeah, July, right? - Oh, Sean, do you wanna talk a little bit about what you got coming up with? - No, tell me, how was that, Sean. - Did you enjoy it? - Yeah, it was fun. What did you do? What was your scenario? So the concept is Larry David did a show for HBO to celebrate the 250th anniversary of the United States. And he put himself into historical scenarios to reenact them. And mine was the Wright Brothers. And it was me, John Hamm, and Larry David. And John Hamm and I played Orville and the Wright Brothers. And he played Lawrence, right? The third, like brother. And he was complaining about the middle seat on the plane that he just invented. (laughing) And yours is what? - Well, I'm okay, Crow. - Oh, good. - Yeah, yeah. I'm one of the earth brothers. And Larry, the whole okay Crow, Larry sets it off. It's all, it was him. - Yeah, it seems like plenty of opportunity to hire him. You are me, well, our phone numbers must have, we hadn't changed in a minute, that's weird. - No, yeah. - Well, I just looked that up. I'm gonna check my junk mail. - Yeah, I should. - Sure, and I'm, it was more on you because I feel like you should have said something on their behalf. - Yeah, I know. - I, sorry. - You know what I mean? You're seeing them all the time. - I do feel like everyone in town has been on Kirby Enthusiasm. Will, did you do it? - No, you and I did not do it. - No, and I did not. I don't think he likes us. - You know what, Larry actually said to me last, this is a true story, so I can say it. He said to me about six months ago, "How come you were never on Kirby?" And I go, "You never asked me." - Yeah. - And he was like, "Uh-huh." And then I said, "I think I'm too tall anyway." I did say that to him. - We've had him on, we've had him on the podcast. - We have. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I've never been in a Bateman project. Should we just get to that right now? - I know, that's true. - I know, Sean. Sean, you and I have never been in a Jason Bateman job. - Wait, you guys haven't either? - No. - Wait, what? - He's directed like a bunch of things. - Before you going through a canyon, you can't hear us right now, or are you-- - Guys, can you hear me? - Do we lose it? - I hear you. Can you hear me? (laughing) Guys, I'm gonna call you back. I'll call you back. Bateman, you send me a call sheet. I'll show up, you know what I mean? - Yeah, I'm gonna do, I'm gonna put all three of you in one. - Come on, and I'll cut it. - I'm gonna see. - Then I'm gonna cut it. - Then we're gonna cut it. You won't be able to cut this. It'll be so vital. Speaking of vital, your vital to show is Tim Holfant. You are just an absolute gem, and it's been awesome having you, dude. Continued success, I stay, keep staying busy 'cause it's so great watching you, dude. - Yeah, and give Karen Christine their office back. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Back to you guys, it was a pleasure. Thank you, I appreciate it. - Pleasure, we look forward to it. - Love, with Tim. - We can, lucky, all this stuff, congrats. And what a joy, what a joy, the great Tim Holfant. Thank you. You're gonna get a round of applause. - Yeah. I think that's the first, that's the first goodbye applause we've done. - I think so too. - Have warranted. - Yeah, gentleman is pleasure. - Likewise, Tim. - Thanks, dude. - Thanks, dude. - Bye, buddy. So yeah, what about that Tim Holfant, huh? - I love Tim Holfant. - I know, good, he's a good dude. He's a real good dude. He's easy on the eyes. He's got talent. - I know. - What's not Tim up? That's why he works so much. - And he does have a reputation that is, he's one of the nicest guys. - Yeah, everybody loves him. I remember Margot saying how much she loved him. - Back in the day. - Do they say that about any of us? - About us? - About Sean and me. - Yeah. - I don't think so. - They say about Sean and me all the time. - You ever heard anything bad about me? - Let me just say I would not look it up. (laughing) Where are you? If you want to have a continued good rest of your day, I would not investigate. - Don't dig, no you don't dig, don't dig. - The buddy loves Jackie Bates. - Well, you can find some naysayers, I'll bet. - No, about any of us. - But boy, that's him all of that. Nope, you get tens across the board. - Did we forgot to plug, we forgot to plug the ball? - Yeah. - Really? Oh, go ahead, maybe just roll the tape on that. - October 17th. - What do you do? - Hollywood ball. You go to smartless.com/live and you get tickets. Sorry. You go to smartless.com/live. And you get tickets. - What is this? - For the Hollywood ball, October 17th. - We're gonna have some surprise guests there. - We're gonna have some surprise guests. - We're gonna come. - Two or one? - Just a couple. - Okay. - Yeah. - You go to smartless.com/live and you can get tickets for you or for a friend. You can, they're not free, you do. - What do you do if you get them for a friend? You have two. - You have two. - Bye. - Bye, Vell. - Smartless.com/live. - Jesus, never try and send that. - Smartlis.com/lis. Smartlis.com/lis, where lotio, where lotio, where lotio, where lotio, where lotio. 5 dollar foot, mom, 5 dollar. Smartlis. Smartlis. Smartlis. Smartlis. Smartlis. Smartlis is 100% organic and artisnally handcrafted by. Michael Grant Terry, Rob Armstrong, and Bennett Barbarco.