Time is On Our Side: Friday, September 11th, 2026

[music playing] Good morning, girlies, it's the TALOS. It's Jackson Claude and we're your HALOS. It's your favorite show that fast-by-things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's the toast. It sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast and happy Friday. It's the final Friday of the year. If you're a US, I guess so, yeah. The Jewish New Year starts this evening. It starts tonight, which is very exciting. Today is a very heavy day. I feel terrible. I feel terrible. Today is the 25th anniversary of 9/11. I was actually running so late this morning because I was just getting all of this 9/11 content. I know. I don't know if you've seen, or if people Liz Woods put me onto this Twitter page called like 2001 Live. And it's basically a Twitter account. They make them for like 50 years ago, 100 years ago. But it like live tweets the day as if it were September 10th, 2001. And they're doing September 11th, minute by minute tweets. Like as it happened, and I've been watching like just so much 9/11 content last night. I was just watching like all these like doc, little docu videos on Instagram. And I feel like I get this sort of content every year. And it's just like shocking, no matter how many times I've seen it. But I also feel like I'm seeing more stuff than I have in the past. And I feel like this year, there's really like maybe I didn't understand this prior. But like the way that people experienced it in the moment is now so different from how we see it in hindsight. Like when the first plane hit the tower, people were not sure that it wasn't an accident. And that's why people say it's so true like 9/11 really marks like the loss of innocence in our country. Because if something like that happened now would be like, who'd done it? Like we would know that we were being attacked. People really, really believe that it was an accident like the plane lost control. Yeah. Because and it wasn't until clearly the second plane got hit that it was like, oh my god, like somebody did this on purpose. And that's why like 9/11 makes me so sad for so many reasons. But I feel like there are people walking around now who like either lived through it or like learned about it. And to have lived through it and to have known even though I was only like 10 or 11. No, sorry, 7. To have experienced life before and life after there's such a marked difference in culture in our country. And it just like marks this like really I think like turning point, bad turning point for our country. And I think there's like a lack of understanding about it now. Because there are so many people who just weren't there. And I was talking to Ben this morning. So much garbage on the internet, like conspiracy theories, everything that they see now, is it AI? Like no, it's not AI. It was Israel. Oh, of course it was. But she did 9/11. Like it's a joke and it's like a hologram. Right. Or it was a control demolition. So I've seen so many videos of like because of all the smoke and everything when the buildings collapse. Like you can't actually see the buildings collapse so people are like it's a control demolition. But I've seen now like simulations of how I kill individuals of how the buildings did probably fall. But you can't see through all the clouds and dust. And it's just like makes me really mad about all the conspiracy theories. I also feel like there's one conspiracy theory that people sort of just like assume to be true at this point. Which I might have thought. But then I saw something yesterday, another piece of information that I didn't know about United 93. Oh, I can't watch that movie. I've only seen it once and it's seriously it changed me. So United 93 was the passenger jet that was hijacked that was headed for DC. They are sure where yeah. And the passengers like rebelled and they were able to like get in the cockpit. And then the hijackers just slammed the plane into the ground and they all died. But they saved whatever destination that they were headed for. And people sort of say like that that plane was shot out of the sky because no one would have allowed a passenger jet that known to be hijacked. To hit the White House or just like flying around and crash anywhere like they did crash into a field. And I was like, oh, I guess like maybe that would be true. But two things I learned yesterday. One, I saw an interview from a woman whose job it was to get into a fighter jet. I saw that too. And take down United 93 that she like it was going to be two fighter jets. She was going to hit the tail and the other one was going to hit the cockpit and they were suiting up and getting into their jets. And then the plane went down. So like I feel like the story that we know is the truth. And then I also saw an interview with George Bush where when he heard United 93 went down like for the first 10 minutes, he thought that it was taken down because he had authorized that he had authorized like any passenger plane that's like. We've been known to be hijacked like we have to take them down, of course, which is a hard decision to make. Of course, and so when he heard United 93 went down, he thought that they did it. And it wasn't until like 10 minutes later that it was found out that the passengers did it. So I feel like that you've never seen that movie. You guys it is. It's like it is the saddest movie I've ever seen in my whole life. Peter Herman. Will Arnett. Like every actor in that movie, I just love them for doing that. And the guy who Peter Herman plays I think it's Todd Beamer who would like let's roll. Let's roll. I saw a video by his dad yesterday. And it was just like it was really beautiful, but it was also just like shaming people who think America deserved 911. Like just people. He said you're not American. If you if you think that if you say that you have every right to say whatever you want, but that's not American. I'm actually going to the World Trade Center later today. Ben and I were talking this morning because you always think about like your own experience. And I feel like we talk about it every year, like being pulled from school and everything. But we were on Long Island. Ben was in the city. He was on 84th Street. And I was just like asking a million questions. And he was like we were walking everywhere. Like he lived thankfully like walking distance from school. He was like when we were walking home from school, there was smoke everywhere. I'm like really all the way up on 80 whatever street. Like 100 blocks uptown that morning. He was like it was insane like for weeks. Yeah. Also something that I didn't realize is like so the North Tower was hit first. And then the people in the South Tower were told to stay in place. They like some people weren't trying to evacuate. And they like were making announcements like stay put. Like the right because it was only the North Tower. It's almost even more dangerous to be outside. Yes, but they were getting like smoke in their building. So some people just like overrode that and started to leave. But for a while before their tower was hit, they were being told to stay. There's so many stories of like that. That's why like you're saying you're getting so much content. There's so many stories of just like everyday people. I was just reading about the boats. I guess like almost a million people were evacuated Manhattan is an island. So they the Coast Guard put out a thing on the radio to style. Yes, to every boat. In, you know, in the region being like if you can get to Southern Manhattan were evacuated. They evacuated almost a million people on like the Staten Island ferry, which is what Pete Davidson bought. That's Staten Island ferry. But like tugboats and people's yachts. Yeah, I saw the same video regular people. So yeah, because you couldn't get out of lower Manhattan. Like obviously there's no subway. People were abandoning their cars because of traffic. So gridlock. The only way off at that point would be to go to the sea. Right or walk and you see videos of people like literally running uptown running across the bridge. Yeah. And it's actually like insane how much footage there is. Given that it was 2001 like a lot of people there had cell phones. And that's how they all like left voicemails. There used to be phones on planes. Remember like you could make like a landline to collect call. And there's so much of that there's like audio recordings. There's nine and one one calls. But it's crazy because it really wasn't even that like digital of an era. Yeah, it was just the beginning like enough for people to have cell phones. Right. And communicate. But like not to really document it the way that it would be documented now. Yeah. The voicemails. I can't. Those like me. Hey, Joel. Like. I saw. I listened to a girl like calling her sister yesterday. It's just. It's it's always a today this year in particular 25th anniversary. Like I it does feel bigger and being in the city. Like it's so spooky. It's and it's always a gorgeous day. Because that's what they say about 9/11. Like it was the perfect day. But then I heard from 2001 live that there was supposed to be a hurricane. Then like the day before the perfect the hurricane just passed. New York. They were expecting like a cold like cancellation. Yes, but no, it turned out to be a perfect day. And then I also learned that Seth McFarland was supposed to be on the flight from Boston. I did know that. I maybe I've heard that before, but I. But I didn't remember it. That's crazy. It's crazy. Yeah. That's crazy. And just shout out to the first responders. Like imagine seeing the worst thing you've ever seen in your life. Like unimaginable, unimaginable like tragedy, horror, fear. You're running for their fucking lives uptown and like you're running downtown. You're driving downtown. Like you're heading towards. They're running down the stairs and you're running up. It's a different breed of human. Yeah. And these are people with like families at home. So today's 9/11. Yeah. So I would recommend following along this account. I think they're doing a really good job. I don't know my whole feed everything. Maybe because I can watch everything. I know. I know you're more enabling the more videos I watch the more they serve me. No, it's very compelling. And I feel like the networks are getting new angles. Like I'm sure you saw like the guys who clean the 9/11 memorial pool. And like their story. Oh, yes, I've seen them. Yeah, like people are, all the networks are like fighting to get like new and different stories and angles. And you know what, like I appreciate thousands of stories unforeseen. And there will be a time, it reminds me like of the Holocaust where it's like there are so few survivors left. There won't be people around forever who live through 9/11 or let alone who were there. - Yeah, I heard from the ticketing agent who checked in the hijackers. - Oh, I didn't hear that, that's spooky as buck. - Yeah, and he thought they looked sus and he was like, and then he checked himself internally. He's like, that's not politically correct. - Oh, and now in the movie, like they were acting suspicious to tell that one guy was so nervous. Like, yeah, it's a lot of things. Maybe he looked like bulky underneath. - Yeah, no, not that, just the way he looked. And he felt himself, he felt himself like being like politically incorrect and proper. He like checked himself and now he's like, fuck that. Like I should have chosen my gut. - Wow, and so it's a crazy to think about a life before TSA. - Right, at the time there was nothing, they boarded with knives which was legal. - Did you just like waltz onto a plane before 9/11? Not even like a metal detector? - No, they had metal detectors, but they weren't like scanning for the things that they scanned for. - Right, and now you can't even bring a bottle of water. - Yeah. - And you know what, I feel like I'm always complaining about TSA, obviously, they have their problems. Of course, they are an imperfect organization. But you know what, Undy's like today. - Thank you TSA. - I'll shut up. - Yeah, and I saw a really sad story about another lady who checked in for like a different flight who checked in the terrace and she took her own life. - Oh my God, that's terrible. - Yeah. - I've never heard that story. - Yeah, just like so much, that's what I mean. I feel like every year I see so much content and like there's just more and more, but like that's how many, it was thousands of people. - If you're ever in the New York City cab, highly recommend chatting with your driver about like a lot of these drivers are like older gentlemen who are around on 9/11 and like what they went through that day. Like so many of them like literally were like shuttles for cops, for firefighters, 'cause there was like no way to get around. If you were on the island, like you couldn't get off vehicularily and you really couldn't get on. The bridges were closed. So if you were there with your car, like a lot of them just got to work. - Yeah, I also saw like Harvey 11 TMZ, like they did a documentary called The Fifth Plane. And there's a theory, but this seems like probably true. - Wait, five planes, two for the towers. Two for the towers, United 93. - Ninety-three Pentagon. - Pentagon. - But apparently like their documentary is about this fifth plane that was like delayed at JFK and they believe that there were hijackers on that plane and like whenever they got in the air, that something was gonna happen. They said like the fissiest stuff was happening and then they grounded all flights so like that flight never took off. - But who do they think the hijackers were like, did they arrest them? - I don't know. I would have to watch the documentary, but that seems to make sense. - Yeah. - Yeah, I'm sure there was like a lot of stuff like that. And I'm sure you've seen the James Woods story. The actor James Woods. - No. - James Woods is an actor in the summer of 2001. He was on a flight from the East Coast to the West Coast and he saw like some very suspicious behavior and he reported it. And it turned out that it was like Muhammad Ata and it was a dry run for 9/11 and they were talking to each other and watching the pilots and like the night of 9/11 like the FBI showed up at his door to like ask him what he saw. Like they finally followed up on it. 'Cause he turned out to be right. - Little late. - Yeah, but he was right. - No, but the thing is like back in the day, she like that was unimaginable. Like now we're all suspicious. Oh, that guy looks weird. Oh, you know, you go to a movie theater and you're like looking at it ever. It wasn't like that back in the day. Like she like this didn't happen. Like, so you sounded crazy and that's what I mean when I say like it's just literally after that day. Like yeah, like the world is the country is just different and things that are possible. Now like literally we're just not possible then. - Yeah, I saw someone say and this is really how it felt like when you were in the 90s and for everyone in the 90s, but I feel like we probably felt this way as much as we could that like it felt like the end of history. You know, like when you read your history textbooks, it's like the end of the Cold War. You close the book like and conflict is solved. - Yeah. - And then like after 9/11 it's like you know hotter than ever. - Yeah. - And like I think that was a major shift for people in how they thought about that and how they thought about the world. - Yeah, it was it's a loss of innocence like really and like belief that like you know that good will prevail. Like it's just it's it's such a like it's an unimaginable evil. Like you can't even conjure up. Now we can 'cause now like we're as Americans we're hard and then like we really see the worst in everyone and everything. - Yeah. - And it wasn't always like that. - No, it like just set off like an evil period of time I guess. - Yeah, and we're still in it. - And we're still in it. - Oh. Well. - So we're thinking of the victims and the families of anybody one who was affected by 9/11. - Like everyone has a story that like randomly connects them to 9/11. - Yeah. Like I've such a pit. So we will still do the show. We won't be like such a bummer as all episodes. - We'll still do the show like page Paul's and architectural digest like that. That does like we that like you know that helps. I guess and when there are things we want to talk about. Shifting gears. Salamu premiered yesterday. We haven't watched but we're going to watch in time for a recap on Monday. We sort of like made that game plan and give you guys all time. - We're going to watch. - Apparently until the five episodes. - Well, I guess it was a transitional time for the secret life of Mormon wives. So that makes sense. And you know I live for short content. So that works journey. I didn't I didn't start it but yes, Jack and I made a commitment. The official Salamu season, whatever this is recap will be here on Monday in full. So everyone has a whole weekend to watch it. I did watch US Open semi finals. So we have our our female US Open players final winner. Final players are set. Of course, Arena Sebelanka. - Of course. - And I forget the other girl's name. Rubikina, she beat Coco Goff. That was like sad because everyone last night was like rooting for Coco, like America, yada yada. And not to be lost. Not to be. And it's like the finals of the US Open is like the number one player versus the number two player. Like I would say no, that's how it works. - I can't believe that never happened so. It's always like some upstart. - Well, hopefully I think people are thinking that's what's going to happen for men's with Ben Shelton. He's I think like number eight or whatever. - He's the upstart. - He would be technically the underdog. - Oh, but number eight is not giving underdog. Like sometimes it's like a rookie. - I know, playing far-low south-of-ground of guys. - Yeah, I feel like tonight's going to be like so. So the men's semi-final is tonight. It's two Americans, Tiafo versus Ben Shelton, like on 9/11 in New York. I feel like it's going to be like, I feel like it's going to be emotional night. - Yeah, for sure. That's the final game. - No, no, semi-finals. But they're treating it like it's the finals. Cause honestly, like, I don't know, I'd probably pay like the alleged woman beater. And it just won't hit the same. It's very if-- - I don't know who that is. - I can't remember if he's Belgian or German. The flags are so similar. US open reminded me yet again how few flags I know. - I think that's okay. - And don't ask me what the Russian flag looks like because all the Russian players, like don't get flags. - They get it like black ass. - They get it blue. No, they get like a blue square. So like literally, if you ask what the Russian flag is, it's a blue square. It's actually red, white, and blue stripes. - No, that's France. - No, no, no, that's America. - The stripes going the other way. There's one with the stripes going vertical. - Let me see. - No, no. The stripes going vertical, red, white, and blue is France. - No, stripes going vertical. No, stripes horizontal, red, white, and blue is Russia. - You lie. Oh my God, if you would have given me a thousand guesses, I'd never would have told you that's the Russian flag. It's sort of like crushed it. - Like I said, I know no flags. - But I feel like it's a recent flag. 'Cause I would say like I'm a Russian history expert. That's why I know it, but that's not been a flag. Like we know the Soviet flag. - Oh, I guess that's why I don't know. It's a kind of newer. - It is newer. You do flags ever go through rebrands? Like if the country doesn't like, obviously like change its name and stuff like that. - Well, if we get another state, if we lose a state, we would get a star. - I wouldn't have to get rid of a star. - But no, I, maybe other countries get like new flags, but I don't think. - In fact, about flags, right? - No. - There's no purple ever in a flag. - That's not true. Because I did a crossword puzzle and it said like what country, it was like country with purple flag. - No. - What I heard was that like you can't print purple on a flag. Like that was my fun fact, are you sure? - It appears in Dominica and Nicaragua. Oh, but there's very little purple for Dominica, but Nicaragua is like all purple. - Well, they obviously didn't follow the rules because they're not supposed to according to my fun facts. - The crossword puzzle was with Maroon. And what was it? I feel like it was like Qatar. - I know. - Qatar. - Is it purple? - Maroon. - Yeah, no, I'm telling you, there's some, okay, maybe I have my fact like a little off, but there's something with purple and flags that you're not supposed to do. - Let's ask since we're here. - Yeah, since we're talking about it. - What's the rule with purple and flags? - I actually don't want you to go, 'cause maybe I'm making this up. - No, let's see where it's coming from for you. - I might just be like, misremembering. - Yeah, you might just be. - You're not seeing anything? - A purple flag at the beach means that there's dangerous marine life. - That is true. besides that. No, it's all of that beach safety. That is interesting. I'll have to do my own sort of research and let you guys know what I find. Yeah, yeah. No, there's definitely, it's stemming from somewhere. But was that like your big flag anecdote purple? No, not anecdotes. It was like, I told you I had a fun fact about flags. Turns out I don't, but I thought I did. And then you said, do I tell you about the, I figured out how you framed it. It sounded like you had like memorized all the flags for school one year or something. No, because God forbid I learned something useful. And you know what? I never learned that song that you alphabetically sing all the states in. But for some reason, I never learned it. Connecticut. And then like, no, I know like some of the hits, but I don't know. And I feel, I feel that is constantly affecting me. How so? I don't know. I just, I feel like because you play a lot of trivia and stuff. Just, I don't know. I think it's, I'm sure like subconsciously, I know all the states, but if I were to list them, like I probably should do it in a patreon, like how many of the, there's an episode of friends where, where Ross like challenges everyone to write down all 50 states. Okay. They, they like, so they get stuck on 49 or they think they get 50 with a flaw in its wife. And I'm like, well, if you knew the song, like you could do it instantly. 1000%. That would, I don't know this song all the way through. I feel like I could write down on 50 states. Do you not feel like we should do that in patreon? Okay. Do you not feel like you could? Like if you had the time and well, the episode of friends is like, obviously, we all know the states, but do you? Like subconsciously, it might actually be difficult to put pen to paper. Okay. We're going to do it. I love that page. Wait, there was one more. Oh, I did want to thank everyone for the outpouring of love and support for Romeo. Um, he heard like all your cry. And the funny thing is, Ben was like, it's not a big deal. Because we were planning on like leaving Romeo there for like a week or two. So, but he'd been like, by the time we pick him up, like, we don't have to see him this way. But I forgot we're going there for Russia. Shana. So we'll be right in the face. Yeah. Kind of unavoidable. Take another picture. Maybe it's like better in person. I told you that Maddie, Ben sister went and she was like, it's worse in person. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's like a naked mole rat. Yeah. So that's it's kind of a tough start to the year for Romeo. But I guess I can only go up. Yeah. No hair goes back is the thing. Oh my god. You didn't even mention my haircut. I cut off three inches yesterday. It doesn't look different. I did. Sure he did. I literally did. It looks great. But it always looks great. The place looks great. Well, I told her like I come in and I'm so annoying. I'm like, I need like a total like I need to look exactly the same. But we have to cut a lot of hair off. And then I'm like, but not that much. So I did I cut three inches, but my hair was really growing. So if you guys are wondering like, what looks different about me today? That is what it is. And I do love your patriotic sweatshirt. Thank you. I thought it was the right time to whip it out. I love it. I'm also I'm wearing a turdback sweatshirt turdback. This is turdback. It's a mock neck. I love a mock neck covers my double chin for Friday. Mocknacks like are popular for a reason. Yeah, they're cool. I don't know if everyone buys mocknacks like for the double chin enclosure. Yeah, but that's why I buy it. And I love. Yeah, I'm enjoying my experience. It's nice. So we have to your toast. No, not to your toast. We have Queenie and we need, excuse me, because it is Friday. And I hope everybody who's celebrating the Jewish holiday says, this is a good Jewish holiday. Like it's a fun friends family food. Okay, it's going to be great. I'm making a brisket. This is an easy one. I'm gonna post a nice one. Like I'm so excited. Yeah, the next one. Like try not to let the upcoming holiday like kind of dim the light of this holiday. It's a beautiful holiday. It's a fresh start. And shout out to Alma Tukah. Yeah. Okay, let's get into the fast five stories that yet it do need to know. And the fast five stories that get it do need to know are brought to you by smart mouth. There are enough things to worry about during the day. Your breath shouldn't be one of them. Oh, I have a personal anecdote last night. Ben said to me and it was like bad and good because he was like, oh my God, your breath smells. And I was like, excuse me. You do not just say that to me. He was like, yeah, it's crazy because your breath never smells. Which made me feel so good. Like obviously he like couldn't get over the fact that I had smelly breath because it's so rare. 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That's Thrive Market dot com slash the toast. Thank you, the turret. Can I ask you a question? Thunder? Is it thundering? I hear it in my headphones. It is thundering. I don't know if it'll come up on the audio, but it's loud. It gets crazy here in this season in Florida. Have you made a chili yet? No. No, I haven't because I'm gearing up for my big brisket. Of course, of course. I can only tear up the kitchen so many times in two days. Our first story is some crazy Aaron Rogers news. Aaron Rodgers went on a podcast and just started slaying it. He let it rip. That's the headline. He really did. So where shall we begin? I'm going to start with Shailene. Of course. He made a wild claim that his ex fiance Shailene Woodley asked to sleep with someone else after he proposed to her. So in an episode of not just football with clearly two hosts, one of them is his teammate, Cam Hayward. So I think they're just what team is he on? It's a great question. Okay. It's a great question, Koji. Could have been you know any teammate. Well, let's find out what team Cam Hayward. I think it was on the jets. Then he's on the Steelers. Steelers? Steel on the Steelers? I didn't know he was on a team. Yeah. He's on the Steelers. Okay. So Aaron's making friends on his team and he's giving him the team. That's always good, by the way. Yes. So he talked about proposing to Shailene Woodley and what happened there. So he said that he proposed to Shailene and a week later she said she had to go fuck someone else. In like a medical sense? She like had to? No. Like I don't know. He didn't give specifics because I'm thinking like - Casting couch. - Oh, that's what I'm thinking. - That's what I'm thinking, or like yachting, you know? - I'm thinking that perhaps they had some sort of open situation. - Oh, maybe, but she said it like she had to. - She had to. - Yeah, like that's a very, I don't know if he's like being intentional with his language. - Yeah, she said yes when he proposed a couple days after that, she tells me, before we get married, I gotta go fuck this guy. Oh, maybe it's like. - Oh, oh, oh, oh, okay. So maybe it's like sort of a last hurrah, you know, perhaps the one that got away, just get it out of your system. - Yeah, that is sounding like that. It could be so many things. But initially I was like, she has to go fucking for work or something. - Oh my God, you going casting couch is extremely dark. - I don't know, Hollywood's a crazy town. - Well, that's the other thing. - And the fact that she said it to him, like it's so normal, like gotta go. - As normal individuals ourselves, and I think our listeners can probably relate, like this sounds crazy. That's not what people do. We have to understand, like people in Hollywood are genuinely abnormal. And I think Shilling would lay specifically, is like probably on the more extreme end of like the create, like just kind of quirky Hollywood things. So none of this really surprises me. And yeah, I'm choosing to see this as her like, needing to get it out of her system one last time before she embarks on. And I don't know, it's not like she did it behind his back. - Yeah, so he said she took off her ring in March 2021. We had a couple times where we tried to get reunited and nothing ever happened. There wasn't even a relationship in 2022 to break off. She literally told me, I don't wanna be with you after we tried some reconciliation in 2021. And then he talked about the fact that she had like given an interview, like saying that like the relationship like left her very depressed. And he sort of clapped back at that saying, "Shye, you left me, you took the ring off." Her story is that I ruined her life and gave her crazy depression because I left her. What are we talking about me ruining your life? - The fact that these two ever at one point like thought they were compatible is crazy because nobody thought they were more compatible than us. - Yeah, but we were just sort of blinded by their friendship with Kelly and Miles Teller. Like, at the end of her core. - At the end of that, that brings. - Right, at their core, like she's this sort of earthy. Isn't she one of those who gave up all of her material possessions and he's this sort of like loud mouth football player. - Seriously, what the fuck are we doing together? - He is earthy, Claudia. - And he does have the earth component. - He does, and he does ayahuasca, and he sort of like rage against the government. Like there is a bend diagram there with a hearty center. - Yeah, that's true. I guess just hindsight, the gift of hindsight, it's like obviously these two are never gonna work out. But we choose to see the best in people. Like I think a lot of people thought we were crazy that we thought Kim and Pete were gonna get married. It's like sorry, we just choose to believe in love. - Yeah, every time. - And I won't apologize for that. - And I don't wanna change that about myself. - And I find that while not all of our predictions and opinions come to light, especially the unpopular ones, I find that these days, I feel even more comfortable in my unpopular opinions because more often than not, like time is on our side. - Time is on our side. - You know who I feel recently we've been vindicated on? - No, Sofia Franklin. At the time, we didn't even take sides. We were just gobbling up everything out. Every time Alex who put something out, people were like, that's my girl boss queen. Oh my God, she's everything. And we were like, wait, this is kind of mean. Or like, wait, maybe Sofia does need more money. We were just like, I think coming out of from a very rational place, which was sort of questioning whether all of this was in good faith and then the suit guy stuff. And now everyone's like, yeah, that was bad. It's like, oh my God, you guys were eating that shit up. And we like took some heat for not being like up Alex Cooper's ass at the time. And you know what, I feel that time has vindicated us. - I agree, that time is on our side. And I'm a patient person. - Yeah. - You know, I'll wait. - Yeah, I feel that just a little bit of a prediction, I think that time will be on our side. And in due time, I think it'll be a while with Lindsey Clancy. - Oh, for sure. I feel like, oh my God, that was a crazy thing from this 2001 live account. - Yes. - They were talking about Andrea Yates. I mean, they're also posting things that are topical to the future. - It's not just about 9/11. - No, no, no, no, it's crazy. They do this account 25 years ago. And now they've hit the day of 9/11, 2001. So it's just getting extra eyeballs. But they also had posted Andrea Yates's legal defense team was mounting a defense of postpartum depression. And they posted the news clip and everything. And Andrea Yates was the woman who drowned her five kids in the bathtub who was hated by the entire country and the idea that she would ever have sympathy or get off is ludicrous. But she was trying to say the same thing. - Those were the days, by the way, when we hated women who killed their children. That's how I know I'm not of this time. - No, that is very black and white to me. And I'm okay with that. - 1,000%. Like the jury deliberated for like 45 minutes. - Yeah. - Do you see that tweet that's like, that actually sums up. - Wait, are you seeing the jurors? - Okay. - So here's the thing is that everyone wants to chat with the one juror. And I'm gathering that he doesn't want to go public, which is completely his right. That photo of him like has been leaked. - Oh, I didn't see. - Oh, I did. He's just like a young guy. I won't give too many identifying details. Cause like, and his anonymity after being like a civil servant is his right and it's his privilege. And so I'm getting the vibe that he's not gonna speak out because like while half the country thinks he's a hero, half the country thinks he's like the devil. So we are hearing from like the sort of a relevant jurors. And it's like, well, that's all fine and good. Cause it's like, oh, Jay, what, every single person on that juror ended up writing a best-selling novel. Like kind of being on a high-profile jury is kind of a jail free card. Like you can end up making a lot of money and becoming famous. I don't think we're gonna hear from him. - Yeah, maybe not. - Who would want that? It's like, you had to be a fucking juror because like, it's your job, it's your requirement as a citizen. You guys don't like what I have to say. Now I have to explain myself like seriously. I want it. - Yeah. - No, the jurors from what I've seen like really aren't helping themselves. - Not a compelling group. (laughs) A compelling group. And they were like, we try and talk to him and he'd be scrolling on his phone. Like, yeah. By the way, I can't believe they had their phones in delivery show either. - I don't wanna touch you either. - No, I did see the one woman who was like, and the sky, he just like couldn't get over the fact that Lindsey Clancy viciously killed her children. And she said it as if it was like, such an inconvenience and it's like, well, yeah, you could. - Yeah. - So what you're saying is you could. - Yeah, like that's an aside. He couldn't get over this fact in pursuit of these facts. - And the thing is, is like being a juror is seriously a thankless job. I don't know why anyone would come forward, especially in a case like this. Like seriously, I did my job at my civic duty. Leave me alone. - Yeah, unless you know, he has an itch for the spotlight because he would have a lot of people on his side. He would become like a very polarizing political figure. - Yeah. And there's a niche for that. - I wouldn't. You know? - But I wouldn't. Like seriously, I did my job. You guys, like I believe what I believe, like leave me alone. - Well, it just would depend like how my life is going otherwise. Like could I do a jolt of success? - Or do I have like a nice life? - Am I happy I wouldn't change a thing? - Right. - Yeah. So how did we get here? - Other things Aaron Rogers said. - Oh, right. - He also railed on Danica Patrick. - Oh, I don't love that because I think that of all of his lady loves like she had them him and her. Like she's the one that got away. - No, he said I dated Danica. She had just retired. She was depressed and not fun to be around. But I didn't leave her because I was trying to be there and be a good partner. Then it was going a certain direction. Obviously, there was no intimacy. There was nothing. - Oh my God. - Oh my God. - She really like hate those. - He's like, I don't know what, like truth. - He just woke up and chose violence. - Yeah, he really did. He said, and I'm buying a house in Malibu and she goes, would you want to buy it together? And I said, no. Oh my God. He's literally the devil. - So like, then he said. So she tells a story that I was so blindsided by getting left by you and he leaves a trail of blood around. I'm like, what are you talking about? That's not what happened by any means. She had called me emotionally abusive, adding that the relationship wore her down to nothing. Said he leaves a trail of blood. And he was like, no. And he's saying pretty much with Danica, there's her story, trail of blood, blindsided. There's zero intimacy. Didn't want to buy a house. There's really nothing there. Then I date Shaline. And again, I feel like this needs to be told because there's just narratives out there which by the way, forever, what people hit me on all the time was he such a fucking asshole. Even his family hated it. - Well, he's not helping the allegations against him. - There's an interesting tidbit in this interview that I think explains why all of his girlfriends are like running away crying. - Well, but I don't understand. He like sat down for this interview to sort of rebuke the asshole allegations and he's leading by being an asshole. - Yes, so basically in here, it also shares that he is married right now to a very private girl. - Oh, right. - He's married now to a very private girl named Brittany. But he apparently met Brittany in 2017. And she then moved to Europe. He said he was plagued by regrets of not begging her to stay or proposing, which sent him into a tailspin during his relationship with Danica. So the whole time between when he met Brittany and when he married Brittany, I think he's hung up on Brittany. So that would explain my Danica. - That's my relationship. - And she leaned and everyone felt like abandoned and. - Right, he depressed by their relationship with him 'cause he wasn't there. - I don't know. I know he came on to dispel all those rumors, but I believe them now. And he's like almost admitting to it being like, "I was in love with another girl." So yeah, that will leave Danica depressed. - Yes. - And she leaned. - That is emotionally abusive to stay in a relationship with someone you're literally in love. for someone else. - Yeah. - So thanks for clearing all that up, not in the way that you thought you did. - Yeah. - He's just mean. Like, Danica, she was depressed. Like, seriously, like, how have less compassion? (laughing) - It's like fucking crazy. - It's a crazy interview. To me, though, the most shocking thing that he said is about Shailene. Like, that she has to fuck someone else. - Oh, the whole thing. Like, and I just want to say, I actually believe like that that did happen. But just, I think I need to hear from Shailene. - Yeah, because I don't think that Aaron is a liar. I think that he's an Aaron's world and he sees things from like Aaron's perception. And like, he doesn't realize that his girlfriends are depressed and then, like, because of him and then they're like, oh, she's a bore. Like, but it's like you're doing the thing that's making her act that way. - Yeah, he's like with this dark cloud. And it's like, well, why is the cloud there? Maybe it's 'cause you're emotionally abusive in me. - Right. - And then love with someone else. - Right. - What came first, the cloud or you? - Right. So, that's what's going on with Aaron Archer. So, he also talked a little bit about his family that they are reconciled that that was in part due to his wife, his new wife, like, encouraging him and just showing him the importance of, like, love and family. - Lovely, lovely, lovely. So, yeah, Aaron Rogers decided to let it rip. - It's crazy. - Our next story, some exciting news for country music fans, Taylor Swift confirmed, she'll be attending the CMA Awards 2026 after a 10-year absence. So, she shared-- - Oh, I'm just sorry. I just say one thing. I just need to get my prediction out like before. She shared on her Instagram, oh, sorry. I'm cutting it off again, go. - So, she shared on her Instagram the fact that she was nominated for Single of the Year. I knew it, I knew you and she wrote on top. Looks like I haven't yeed my last haul. Thank you, CMA. See you there, November 18th. - My prediction, like, that's obviously a lyric. It looks like I haven't yeed my last haul, something like that. So, here's what I think is gonna go down because she was talking. She recently did an interview at the Grammy Museum where she said, "As she gets older "and more experience in her songwriting, "she finds herself more consistently going back "to her country music roots." So, her next album is obviously country. She will obviously be announcing it at the CMA Awards. And that's a lyric, yees my haul or something, like-- - I love that. I hope that's true. - Yeah, me too. I mean, I knew it, I knew you is legit a country song. It's a banger. And I feel like that was sort of like a throwaway song from like the bottom of her catalog that she gave to Tom Hanks. So, I'm looking forward to like a well thought out country album. 100% I believe that's what's happening. - Okay, like, great. Slice, do you think that she will win this category because she's attending? - Like, no, even though CMA does give like the fake type of award, whereas like Taylor Swift shows up, they're obviously gonna give it to her. - But for the song of the year, it's like too important. Sorry, you can't just think. - And give it as a charity case. - And I love Taylor Swift and I can make the case of like any award she gets nominated for, she should win. The song came out 35 seconds ago. It can be the song of the year when it just came out. - And like, does it play on the radio? Like, I listen to it because I have toddlers. - And you listen to it 'cause you're a Swiftie. But like, is it an actual song? It's just from the movie. - And song of the year, yeah, I can't come from a cinema soundtrack. - Well, it could if it's like let it go, you know, but that took over the world. - Right. - This song didn't take over the world. - No, it's just a good song. - It's just a good song from a movie. The mom's love it, the kids love it. Like, we're having fun. - No, I think this is nominating her is like, definitely a stretch. But I do think if she's gonna announce the album, she has to win so she can get her ass up there. - Or she announces the album like before. She puts out a single and she performs it at the CMA Awards. - Oh, so cute. I'm so here for Taylor's like CMA. Or I think she also, like now is living most of the time in Kansas City. - St. Louis? Oh, thank you. - Yes, St. Louis. - I got confused like Missouri. I mean, Kansas City, I think it's probably like easier to get to Nashville than LA. So like, if Nashville becomes her new musical bass, like, I just think being a country artist is like very good for travel. It's a little bit more central. - For her lifestyle. But also, I feel like if she's going back into country music, like the female country music space is a lot more competitive now than it was when she was coming up. Not that she's still within the number one girl, but like, it's competitive. - It is, but I do think that. And all the young girls, when we talk about like, Megan Moroni, Ella Langley, when, like, they, Taylor walked so they could run. Like, she's really, and a lot of them, like, try to cross over a do-girl pop. And a lot of them successfully do. And like, Taylor is the trailblazer in that. - Oh, for sure. But if you're putting out sort of like a country, female country album, like, we are going to judge that album. Like, do I want to listen to this? Or Megan Moroni, Laney Wilson. - A thousand percent. - A thousand percent, Ella Langley. - A thousand percent, no, no. She's willing to judge. - But of course, she's the greatest success of all time. - No, and country is like real music. Like, it's lots of live instruments, live vocals. No, no, I mean, like, a lot of music in pop is like, literally made on a computer. Like, it's not real music. Whereas, country music is like live instruments, live vocals. Like, you can't be a bad singer if you're a country singer because it's sort of like, talent driven. Not that, and honestly, not all industries are. John Rose, excuse me. So, I think that Taylor sort of write for a country album 'cause she's like, instrument girl. And songwriting is like so, country music. - It's like very cool circle and she's gone out there and she's conquered the world and she's done all these different genres but she's country and her core. And like, eventually, she's coming home. - Oh, I didn't know that we were waiting for her to come home. Obviously, like, I've been holding out. I've been, like, Taylor Swift for country music is my personal dream. I didn't honestly know it was a possibility. - No, everyone comes home, Claudia. - She always like dangles. Like, she threw Betty in there. Betty's a country song. I didn't know. And obviously, we don't know this to be true, but I'm assuming that it is. Like, if we get a country Taylor Swift album, like, I will be extremely, extremely happy. I'll probably be as happy as I am when I get Taylor's first album after having a baby. - Yeah. - Like, those are the things I'm waiting for in the Taylor Swift universe. - All in time, Code Drio. - All in time. Are you ready for our next story? I am. - Paige and Tommy Paul's Connecticut home has been profiled in architectural digest. - Diagest. - The photos are part. So this is major 'cause Paige and Tommy have, you know, settled into their marital home. - Yes. - I could tell on her Instagram, like, she doesn't share like a ton of personal, but some of her backdrops have changed. - She said she moved and she posted, like, her old house was for sale. Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Oh, oh, oh. I was just like noticing that she had like a couple of people over for the weekend over the summer. And I was like, oh, new house. - Yeah, and she had like shared like, a little things here and there of like, you know, her kitchen tiles that are like, dairy boy inspired, her back splashed. - Cute. - But not like much, and the much is here in the form of architectural diagest spread. - It's a compound in Connecticut. Of course, there's a tennis court for Tommy. - Of course, there's chickens for our dairy girl. - It's very, I don't even know what style this is. It's like, Pargy Girl Farmhouse Cottage Corps. It's like the aesthetic that she's really sort of, like, become known for. - American heritage. - Yeah, like, it's not girly. It's like feminine and it's not like pink, but it's lots of patterns. It's very beautiful. - It's also like antique. - Yes, it's not crazy modern. - Not at all, no. I just feel that. And you know what's so funny? - New England nostalgia. I saw her on Morgan Stewart's podcast and, you know, I really appreciated the context 'cause it does feel like in the last year or two, like something has shifted in pages overall branding. Like, I feel like she went from being like, an influencer with like a successful fashion brand to being like a true, I don't even know what to call her. Like celebrity, socialite, trend set, or like, she, to me, and I, people are going to think this is crazy, but I think for like a digital generation, she's very much like a Haley Bieber. And it just feels like everything has leveled up so much for her. And she said that like a year or two ago, she finally brought on like a partner to a Rundere boy. Like, I think he's like the CEO. With someone that she knows, he has equity in the company and she was like, you know, you can have something smaller that you own outright or you can have something huge that you share and, and let people in on. And I do feel like it marked like a real like upgrade for her. Yeah, where she like totally blew up bigger than she was before. No, I think it's been like a perfect storm for her and not an accidental storm. Right. Like her relationship and her wedding and her brand and her content and like everything, just like firing an all cylinders to create a princess. And then Taylor Fritz breaking up with the other blond tennis bag. Like didn't hurt you. It was just clear in the runway. Yeah, it cemented her as the queen of tennis. And what's so funny is that Tommy Paul got out like two rounds ago and then last round page went. I was like, she is like, she's an influencer celebrity. So like, that's what you do. But like, I thought that when Tommy was out, like she wouldn't come anymore. But she did like a gray goose partnership and she like had the sweet and she walked the carpet. And it's like, yeah, girl, go. Yeah, you got a brand. Brands gonna brands. Right. So yeah, check out the pictures. Very cute. Do they usually do a video? Are we like going to leave you in front of you? No, that was like Mr. or Mr. property did a video. Yeah, I know. So additional and the property X. I don't know. Sometimes, but not always it would be nice to see a video. It would be nice. But the place looks great. Like real, real. Sickening real active, real active. Oh, yeah, and the chickens in the tennis score. It's just pargy. It is, it's really. It's some classy shit. Yeah, and AD is like major, you know? So this is another. Major, another like major and legit notch in her belt. Yeah, she's just. Page Paul to the moon. Yeah. If it's our next story that's brought to you by the Hulu original series, Chad Powers. With an all new season now streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney Plus, Glen Powell is back as the oddball athletic superstar, Chad Powers, but he's got a secret. 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Ends November 22nd, 2026 at 11.59 PM Eastern Time. - Thank you, Turtster Time. You're welcome. - Turtster Time. Our next story, Brooks Nader defends going topless in front of her dad in those viral photos. She said he didn't even notice. So, Brooks Nader isn't thinking twice about going topless in front of her father. As we all remember, photos, paparazzi photos of Brooks on a yacht, topless. - There are some things you don't forget. - Those photos took the world by storm. Like, we're always-- - As they should. - No, but like, we're just on like, Nader Alerts, like everything Brooks does, every paparazzi photo, like we consume it, but those were like insane. - Yeah. Um, so on Thursday, entertainment tonight shared an interview with Brooksy where she explained why her controversial swim isn't something that her family even thinks tight twice about. She said, "I have the time of my freaking life. "I don't care if I'm not from Europe. "I'm from Louisiana." She said, "Like, okay. "Next time somebody asks me why I did something, "I'm just gonna say I'm from Louisiana." - She said, "I grew up in an all-girl's household. "We're always naked together as sisters." She insisted that her father wasn't fazed by her lack of clothing. She said, "My dad's half blind, so he didn't even notice." He was like, "I don't care." He has selective hearing and selective seeing. I was just having the time of my life and really not thinking that anyone was documenting some of it, but we love it. It's great. - You know that Brooks is one of my mentors and I stand on her shoulders. Unfortunately-- - If that's true, you should stand tall. - Now, because I think that part of a healthy mentor-mentee relationship was like being able to disagree peacefully, of course. And Brooks is genuinely like never in her life gonna convince me that this wasn't weird. Now, I understand she has a duty to defend herself her family, of course. Stop working. It's not working. - I just, I don't know what it's like to be Brooks-nader, you know? - I do. So I could see a world in which Brooks is well. And if you watch the show, like they really are like that. Yes, and I also do think as a full-time model, and this is something I can speak to from experience, is you are very disconnected from your physical body. Like it's not sexual. It's sort of like just there. And so while obviously I think that this is crazy, I do see a world in which like somebody who's like modeling full-time is constantly like poked, prodded, photographed, like very objectified. I do think I do see a world in which how that can really disconnect you from your physical body. - Yes, and also it's like I might, you know, the way I think about this is so different from how Brooks thinks about it. Like because I would be like, oh my God, how dare they take those photos of me? Like how you're focused on the like invasion of privacy. - No, yeah, and the fact that they're just even because of me, she's like, we're having a ball. Like she's just like, she's free. And she's very free, like free-spirited. - And her and her sisters are constantly like topless naked and running around. And her parents are always there because they're like supportive parents that love them. So if they're always topless naked and they're always there, then they're gonna be topless naked together. - I saw the most annoying clip of Grace Nader. She was like at some U.S. open suite. And like the brand was like asking her questions. They were like, who do you think is gonna go further on James and with the star, Sarah J. Nader or Brooks? And she's just like a such a Brooks hater. So of course she said Sarah J. And even though literally, like people are boycotting Sarah J. and cause she's like, people don't know who she is. So it's like, she's like, well, I think Sarah J. is gonna go further because like, she's gonna be lestestracted. And there's just like such, I don't know. I'm fucking think to say, especially given the fact like what we now know about Glob is like, he's legit evil and he's not on the season. I don't know if he was fired. He should be fired like HR, Hulu ABC. But it's like, she's so annoying. - Yeah, that's amazing. - Like if I'm Brooks and I see that, like I'm gonna slap my sister. Like the only U.S. open cause of me, bitch. You could, I mean, they do literally have those conversations and fight that. - I know, I love my favorite conversations. - They move on and just continue to operate like that. But you could say like Sarah J. is gonna go further just because you're trying to support Sarah J. and just be like, cause like, you know, she was trained, like she's working really hard. She's really loves to dance. Like, it wasn't a annoying answer. - Yeah, if Joe Gray-san has no haters who also like love her but hate her, you are dead. - No. - Who else hates her? - I don't fall into that category of people who like hate her, but also love her, I just hate her. (laughing) I was just like trying to like soften it because that's like your mentor sister. Did I ever tell you guys that I was on the same flight as Gray-san later? It was so awkward. The thing is, I think she genuinely had no idea who I was, which I'm grateful for. And it wasn't a commercial flight. It was like one of these semi-private, so it was like literally 10 people on the plane. I actually wanted to be dead. - By because like you've talked so much shit. - We had just recapped Love that I Nader. And it's like I loved the show, and I was always like just kind of like hating on Grace. And by the way, they set up the show like that. Like clearly Grace is like meant to be the villain. So sorry, I was just like watching and recapping your show. But it was terrible, like seriously terrible. - So I thought that like you felt like you love the Nader's. That includes Grace. - I do. - That includes Grace. - But you hate Grace. - She's my least favorite. - So like there isn't. - I don't hate anyone, but I hate this is strong. - Oh yeah. - And I don't want to perpetuate hate. I have the most criticisms of her as like a sister model and individual. - Like she's your op. - She's my op and like I never find anything like that she does to be redeemable. Like she's never like, but I love Brooks. Like I just, I don't know, I feel like they all take from Brooks, but like of course they all give to Brooks. I just feel like she's like a taker. - Yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay. So yeah, Brooks doesn't care. - No, she doesn't. And that's why we love her. And that's why I stand proudly on her shoulders. - Yeah, it's that that you take away from your mentor. - Yes. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? I don't know if you've seen this yet. - Breaking news? - Maybe. - No, it's from yesterday. - Definitely. - I just saw it. - Sovi Cunningham seemingly drops her podcast. - Of course I just was. - Well, of course. - I'm fucking so happy to beat. - So Indiana Fever guard Sovi Cunningham is getting back into podcasting and it appears she will do so without her friend and long time co-host. Like year long co-host. - Five day co-host. - Wilson. Sovi Cunningham is back with world renowned basketball player Drew Hanlin read a message from her podcast ex account on Thursday. New episodes dropping every Thursday with episode one dropping later today. - Is that a co-host? - Drew Hanlin. - She's WWE player also? - Is it a she or a he? - Oh, that's a great question. - World renowned basketball trainer, sorry. 'Cause I was like, oh cool. I was Drew Hanlin. Gakaba. - I think it's a girl. - It's a man. - Okay great. - It's a man. The podcast, which was previously called Show Me Something, has been rebranded as no hesitation. Now, there was really never much interest in their podcast until Sovi Cunningham started to speak. Like she recently became at least to me as not a WNBA fan or watcher. She really recently became sort of a figure in pop culture recently. It's because she's made some, she gives her takes on the whole Trans athletes conversation, which is obviously very divisive. She speaks very bluntly and matter of fact, like just being like, I don't think it should be allowed. And I think a lot of people were talking about this and people from my world were talking about it being like, well, what does this mean for West? Because West is like very progressive. I feel like he kind of uses his progressiveism as like a shield a lot of the times. I mean, like I can't hate women. I love women, my mom's an OBGYN. And like, and so a lot of us were like, oh, you know what this dumb podcast you guys have had, which has literally made no sense. I'm kind of looking forward to the next episode. They have not released an episode since her statements. Like they have literally were never even spotted together. So a lot of people are like West dropped her. She dropped West. I actually would have really liked to have listened to a podcast between the two of them. She'd have had a debate, bring back debates. Just because you would disagree heavily with somebody on like a random certain topic, doesn't mean you can't host a podcast together. For sure, for sure. The difference is that like he sort of went out there and like turned on her, you know? Well, that's the thing. It's like she decided to host a podcast with you when you were like literally like shit on the shoe of a hobo like you, she lifted you up. And that was before she was even considered a controversial being like you should never steal your friend's wife and boyfriend and your ex girl. You know what I mean? Like she, we can all feel that she wouldn't agree with what he did, but like you, you just sort of like stand by your friend and say nothing really. It's not tough for him. She was just there. She never like spoke out against him or anything like that. And nobody needed to know what West Wilson thinks about trans athletes and women sports. And we could guess what he thinks. We actually need to know like what female athletes think about it. That's like the person that you want to hear from on the top. No, but podcasts is supposed to be interesting conversation. And I think that like, yeah, these two people who are seemingly so fucking random, I don't even know how they got paired up together. I feel like for the first time ever, like I actually would be interested to hear what these two would say. And it would be more respectable of him to like go on their podcast and be like, wow, you're in the news for having said this. You know, I really, I don't agree with that. And like have her out to her face and have a conversation. But him like going and making a video about her that she can't respond to in real time. And he's just like using all these like woke isms to make everyone feel good saying that this is not a non-existent issue. This is a real issue for her. So that's the first defense. You're gonna say something that's an issue for me is not an issue. I'm living it, you're not. No, and it's like it's so uninteresting to talk about. This is the person you literally made us listen to your episodes with for months. And it's like now's the first time ever. We're actually, I think you two might have something worth hearing and he just makes a video. It's so cowardly, it's so West. Like what have we learned about him from this whole saga? He's literally the definition of a coward. Like he can't have a conversation with someone. He can't be honest. He's a liar. So like, yeah, this tracks, but it would have been actually like a nice opportunity for civil discourse. Yeah, that's, that would be cool. 'Cause people, we're so polarized now that like two people who like fundamentally disagree about something like they would never have had to part ways. No, and they would never wind up in the same room or like on the same conversation in a meaningful way. You know, sometimes on the news they'll have like two people. And like no one can get a word in. But like actually, if the two friends sat down and like the way they always do, two podcasts, those who disagree about something, like try to like talk it out, that would be interesting. Revolutionary. Revolutionary. That's just like, that's debate. That's good, healthy debate. Yeah, it's really lame that this ended, like this shook out how it did. No, but it did not lame of her because let me tell you if someone did that to me. Well, we don't know, I guess, yeah. We don't know what happened behind the scenes, but yeah, I guess he did make that video. He's just like so obsessed with like people's approval, which is crazy 'cause he ended up doing something that like, because he run that being the most hated man in America. Yeah, like oops, but like to take it to social media and the public like before your friend, especially like she decided to work with him publicly after he was the most hated man in America. Like that takes balls. Yeah, and also I just want to say like when Sophie cutting him said what she said about the issue of trans athletes, like I don't think anyone really needed to hear from West, what is West think about trans athletes, you know? No, I want to know what West thinks about his cousin. Like there's a lot of things I need to hear from West Wilson about. Yeah, but he's just like not relevant to the conversation. So for him to throw her under the bus, which is what he did, like, yeah, go lie. She seems like she doesn't suffer any fools, you know? She's fine, yeah. Let's dive into our final segment of the week, "Queenie and Weenie of the Week." Just a great way to wrap up the week. If you're new here every Friday, our very last segment is something we call "Queenie and Weenie of the Week." It's a childhood game we used to play that was borderline traumatizing, but we've taken our power back. Now we can traumatize others with it. Yes, "Queenie and Weenie of the Week." Who acted like a queen of this week and who acted like, "Oh, Weenie this week." We'll start with "Queenie." Yes. My "Queenie" is very obvious. It is Alex Earl and her family. It is the Earl family. They put on a jolly good show. Really? You see her on the "Tonight Show" last night? I saw that she was on it, but I didn't. She didn't be felon, but I didn't see. With Matthew McConaughey. Oh, cute. The show exceeded my expectations. I think they've got what it takes. And I am really proud of them. And she's just been like really a joy to follow as a pop culture commentator. I enjoy Alex Earl on the radar. She was also in the mix for me for "Queenie" because it was definitely her week. The show was great. She's her character herself with such grace. Sometimes a lot of people force their families onto us like when they're becoming famous. And it's like, you know what, we are all set. But I think the way that they've done it has been like very organic. I totally agree. But actually, she's not my "Queenie." My "Queenie" is somebody who went through so much this week and is sort of facing adversity in a beautiful way. Romeo. And that's Romeo, yeah. And he provided us with so much content. Like people were cracking up. When I saw the picture, I'm like, are other people going to think this is as funny as I think it is? And it turns out that they do. So Romeo, he gave us content. He gave us engagement. And for that, we have to respect the cake. We have to respect the cake. Exactly. Yeah. And "Row Back." Now, "My "Queenie" of the week is a little delayed. Yeah, "Row Back." "My "Queenie" of the week is a little delayed because we weren't able to give this individual "Queenie" of the week when it happened. So I'm going like posthumously giving this to Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. It's true. They haven't been anointed yet. And I know they think that they got away with moving when they did so that they wouldn't be "Queenie" of the week. But the official Meghan Markle Prince Harry Watchdog podcast let's sleep, no sleeping dogs lie. Yeah. That is beautiful. I'm glad that you brought that up because, honestly, it slipped for me. It would have slipped. I was going to give it to the Beermann family. But see, because I was thinking, like, family and family. And I know crimes-- We always say, like, if you have done something criminal, you're not only in the week. Of course, because we've minimized this. Like, we'll be Lindsey Clancy. We'll be the "Queenie" of the week. But like, it minimizes what you've done by like calling you a "Queenie." OK, but no, but you're right, because Meghan and Harry need to be "Queenie" of the week. Do two. There's so many parts of it that make it weird. Do two "Queenie" of what they did and-- The return, Charles' statement. Like. Every part of it gets them denomination I keep seeing like these clips and I'm actually seeing it from both like Hader accounts and fan accounts Like I'll see like Megan fan accounts post clips of her from like their docuC's or series or whatever being like What a queen, but like I'm just watching the clip It's really crazy like the Of I'm sure you've seen the curtsy the curtsy clip. Oh, yes a lot of footage from I saw the Beyonce texted me one I just saw that one, but I saw it from a positive content creator who was like how sweet their friendship is But like know the curtsy was so rude. Yeah, I saw a scene where like she's sort of railing on William Cuz I guess I saw that too. Uh, and she's like your brother. She's like I'm not gonna say anything cuz that's your brother But like you're saying something and like sure talk shit about your brother sure, but not on camera Yeah, like Cuz I guess like Williams aid put something out and that's William, you know Yeah, I saw that clip too The clips are not aging well It's all well said. No, no, and that's something I feel joyful about you speaking of time Vindicating us when that came out. I feel we've also been vindicated about Meghan Markle. Yeah People were like eating her shit up and we were like don't you feel like you should keep your ship private right? And I'm you know, I'm people are like you guys are so evil. I'm team Queenie I'm team like keep your private business private seriously But I'm a queenie stand, so of course. That's where I stay Like her naming the daughter little bit after like seriously destroying the Queen's reputation It's a Queen's final years. Yeah, it's insane. I love that That's our show. I hope everyone has an amazing rush of Shana if you're celebrating Shana Tova Umatukah I hope you guys eat well Pray well, and we'll see you on Monday No mischews this year for rush Shana. Oh darn. Oh darn. We love you Make sure to do your homework watch slammo. Yes Thank you guys so much. We'll see you in the next Monday morning show. We do the fastest stories You need to remember they're watching us. You need to subscribe. We'll see you later thumbs up We'll see you in the next one. We'll see you in the next one. Bye. Bye