TIM ROBBINS Grew Up in Greenwich Village

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And it was sort of run on this gas that sort of as this little car would be winding up the sort of the breeze, the ocean breeze would push the smell of this train ahead of it so you could smell it before it was coming. The smell has since been alleviated, but it was sort of nicknamed the skunk train, which they resisted for years. And then the National Geographic wrote a story about it in 1959, saying how charming it was. And then they sort of embraced it. But it's been renovated, revamped. - It used to be called, they wanted to call it the filthy rat train. (laughing) - How big is the skunk train? - Now there's a presidential class car that we rode in to feature in our episode, but then- - And so if people wanted to ride the skunk train, is it from getting from point A to point B or is the joy of the journey? - The joy is the journey and then the joy takes you to, I'm gonna forget, skunk town. - No, no, it's skunk town. It takes you a few miles into the Redwood forest, and then there's a Glen Blair junction, is an old stop, and there's currently a collapsed tunnel. So that is now the terminus for the time being, they're gonna rectify that, but they have built this sort of structure, this beautiful structure, and they have these fire pits, and they have food, and they have a bar, and they have live music. So you take this skunk train up there, you get out, you hang out, you have drinks, smores, dinner, enjoy some live music, and then the train keeps running back and forth, so new waves of people will arrive, and then if you've got little kids, maybe you take off. - What's the time of this skunk journey? - Our train took off around six, I think, and then maybe it's every hour or so, every half hour. - But how long does it take to get from point A to point B? - A to B is about a half an hour, I think. - That's perfect. - Yeah, maybe a little less even. - That's great. - And there's some open cars where you just outside, and you can look up at the sky and the redwoods, and dogs are allowed. So the first time I saw it leaving, we were not on it, and there were like three dogs sticking their heads out the windows, which is adorable. And then the dogs get up into the forest, and obviously they love it. - That's amazing. - Great smells, so. - Yeah, it's great. - Is it true? - To the mom told me you went to the little inn we stayed at once, when we went on the couch. - Well, I looked at in Elk, California. - Right. - I was right near their sea kayaking, and I wanted to see how far away it was, but it's closed, permanently closed. - Probably because of what happened to me. - Oh yeah, you got real bad poison ivy. - Yeah, we dropped a scrabble tile off into the woods. - Basically off an edge, and I went looking for a scrabble tile, and I think I got maybe, I got poison ivy so bad I almost died. - Yeah, you flew home and then saw the NBC doctor, and they said you could have lost your leg. - Yeah. - They said like this is your leg is so swollen with poison ivy that you could have, like just an artery could have, like just exploded. - Yeah. - So. - So I'm glad it's closed. - Sea kayaking, you're not gonna see me doing that, but how, how was it? - It was great. And we went through these caves. I had never been through a cave in a kayak. Very exciting. We had a guide. Obviously you should do these things with a guide. Craig Coleman from kayak Mendocino was our guide. And he tells you when to come in, and when to sort of shoot through. There was this one cave called the Rumbler, where you really hear these sort of big booms of these waves that come in as they hit these little pockets. But it was not, it was not scary. - I was not one of you, the cave called the Rumbler. - We saw a seal, a seal was like poking us head up, looking at us. - Very cool. - You know what else is cool? Kayak is a palindrome. - Yeah. Not my favorite palindrome though. - What's your favorite palindrome? - Race car. - Yeah, that's a good one. - Yeah, I like that one. - What's the other one? - Madam, I'm Adam. - That's a good one. - No, it's not. - Yeah, that's true. Race car is better. I was home with kids. I'll just say briefly, all the kids got geared up, put on all our Steelers gear. This was for a Steelers Patriots game that was absolutely ugly and brutal. And everybody's really excited. And I actually give credit to all three kids two minutes into the game. They were like, "We're gonna go watch a movie." I'm like, "Go with God." (laughing) I was like, "I don't want this for you." - Yeah. - "I don't want you to have to live in this world." - Yeah. Quick shame on the NFL network. - How's that? - I'm an LA, I don't have the Sunday ticket. I'm not getting it. I'm not getting it this year. I look and I see Steelers Patriots. It's on. I have the game. It was amazing. - Great. - I put it on. I watched the kickoff. They're like, "Oh, the Patriots are two and one." The Steelers are two. I'm like, "This is the second game of the season." What's going on? I look in the upper right hand corner. It says week three, 2025. - Right. - So the same day that there is a Steelers app Patriots game, the NFL network has decided to re-air. - The Steelers app Patriots from a year earlier, trying to trick me, trying to trick Steelers fans. - Or maybe doing your favorite. They're like, "Well, I just watched this one. You guys went this one." This represents me. You're not going to watch the one that's going to happen today. - Yeah. - Man, Tim Robbins, an actor, I love, and what a conversation. - Yeah. It's just been a cool dude for a very long time. And yeah, it starts off great. Just like from the opening shot, we know we're getting something unique. - Yeah. - He's just immediately coffee all over the place. He recovers, never loses, is cool. Enjoy the conversation. Enjoy the skunk train. But if you know what's good for you, don't take a kayak into the rumbler. - No, do that. Do that, do that. Also, if you haven't been watching Silo, you should check out Silo. And it's part of what Tim Robbins is here for to talk about. The series. - Are you serious? - You know what I'm saying? - A good rumbler, rumbler, rumbler. - Yeah, that one's better than Madame, I'm Adam. (laughs) Enjoy everybody. Thank you. ♪ Family trips with the maddest brothers ♪ ♪ Family trips with the maddest brothers ♪ ♪ Here we go ♪ - Yes, we're looking at beams. We're looking at a lamp. [BLANK_AUDIO] like some sort of a stairs going up. Yeah. Whoa, whoa, you just make it a cup of Joe off to the side there. Oh, I don't think this is guy. Everything about this is great. I was just having a little coffee disaster. I love it. How are you Tim? I'm good. How are you, Seth? I'm wonderful. I'm very excited to talk to you, Tim, because you were a child of Greenwich Village. I was indeed. And now I'm raising three children of the Greenwich Village, and Josh and I are just simple suburban boys. And it seems like you turned out okay. Yeah, well, what you don't know won't kill you. Do you want to give Tim a second to sort out his coffee emergency set? No, I like talking to this is very fun for me. This is like, I don't know, like a walk-in talk. This is like an Aaron Sorken scene. Can he still do it? Yes, look, see, it's all it's all starting itself out. That's fantastic. Yeah. Greenwich Village in the 60s was yeah, it's a different a different world. And I'm writing about it right now. I'm doing a memoir. Do you have good men? Like, is your memory strong for those days? For certain days, yes. Yeah. You know, memories clouded in a combination of overload and trauma, you know. I was just talking to a friend of mine about this that we were talking about something in our past and had completely different memories of it. And I realized, you know, this is a certain capacity we have for memory. And some people remember some things, some people don't. And it doesn't mean neither of them was untrue or but as I'm as I'm writing this, I'm also doing a memoir. Along with the memoir, I'm also been doing a website. So it's been a really interesting journey. But Greenwich Village in the 60s was total chaos. Yeah. This clash of worlds, the old Italian Irish people that had shops were now being bought out in the 90s by, you know, Yuppies and upward mobility. So this village really changed a lot. And I would say it's great to raise your children amongst a in any city, but particularly in New York that has such a diversity of culture and language, they learned very early on that, that the world is a wide place. And it's a much more rounded education, I would say, for children to grow up in that chaos. When did you, when did you realize that you grew up in a place that was so markedly different than the rest of the country? That's the thing you don't realize until much later. Like I was, I thought everyone in the world had, you know, folk clubs down the street. And junkies strung out on the corner. Yeah. Wasn't until I went to college that I understood what a leg up I had in life because I was watching my fellow freshman freaking out about this stupidest things. And, you know, when you've survived, you know, near murder, you're a little more ready for the world, I guess. You know, I saw some pretty crazy things when I was growing up. And you don't think about it at the time. You think everyone has this experience, but then you realize when you meet other people and you're in the wider world that not everyone had as crazy of a childhood as I did. Yeah. We certainly, Seth and I both went to Northwestern. And I think we felt that from all of the people from New York, who like that there was just a greater worldliness to them. And they just seemed more at ease with sort of arriving on a, on a new campus. Like it was almost like boring for them. Yeah, because and they were like, Oh, like this is, this is a drag. Yeah. You know, they grew to enjoy it. I mean, what it, what was everybody freaking, what's everyone freaking out about? This is, I'm trying to go on a time square, you know, and on 10 p.m. I've done a couple, I've done a couple commandments for, you know, New York City high schools. And one thing I've said is like, Hey, you're going to go to college and just do me a favor. Like don't show up and tell everybody they're how boring it is. New York, like the rest of it, they're all excited. Like kids from small towns are going to be excited to be at college. And I know you're going to be like, but like just keep it to yourself. Did you, you had three siblings, right? Three siblings. Where do you live in the birth order? The baby. Wow, baby. And, and were you close? Oh, yes. We had to be. We were, we lived in a, like a five story walk up railroad flat. So we didn't, there wasn't really even a bedroom in the apartment. My parents slept on a convertible couch. Me and my brother slept in a walking closet on bunk beds and my sisters lived in loft beds above where we had dinner. So it was really tight. Yeah. That's what I mean. So your parents were musicians, right? They were, they were both music. They were both musicians. They met in the UCLA marching band. Dad was a drum major. Mom played the flute. Dad went on to a career in music and my mom became a mom raised the family. And then when I was, once I was in first grade, started working again in publishing. And she also was a singer and president of the New York Cross Society. So she kept her relationship with music throughout her life. It's amazing. And we're, what streets were you guys on? The King Street. Okay. Wow. King between 6th and 7th or Avenue of the Americas and Varic. Yeah. But it was 6th and 7th. At what age were you, I mean, I imagine with so many people in such a small space, New York City right outside the door, at what age could you sort of go off and wander on your own? Six. Yeah. Okay. It was crazy. Yeah. I mean, they really didn't, I mean, it, it did teach you survival for sure. Yeah. And you, I learned that it was very good to be able to have some sneakers on so that you could run. Yeah. My survival was mostly running. I got a little bit older and I had to learn to fight. And then fighting didn't necessarily mean survival because if you were fighting with a psycho path, which I had to do a couple times, they don't, they will say they, you know, they'll say uncle and then they'll attack you again. So it was, it was pretty crazy. Were you, I've heard tell from friends of mine who grew up in the city, did you carry like sort of your money in two different places? So if you got mugged, you could give away half of it. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I still do. No, you definitely had some money in your shock. Right. Um, but the, but the trick to that though was to just not have money. Yeah. That's, yeah. Just be poor. That's the, that's the life hack there. Yeah. That's the life hack. Just be poor. You won't get mugged. I get, I mean, I imagine obviously it seemed like you had pretty tight living quarters. So I feel like your parents had no choice, but to let you guys go out and wander around. It's not like they could expect you to just hang out in the apartment. It was the only thing to do. I mean, there was the roof, but mostly you get home from school, change into my running shoes, some clothes that I could not, you know, get out of my school uniform essentially and go out and play till dinner. And, um, that play involved sneaking into some place to place off ball or running, uh, uh, uh, just, uh, roller skating, uh, to play hockey. Um, that was my two after school activities. Which were you better at? Were you better at hockey or, uh, or, or baseball? Uh, probably better at baseball. Yeah. Um, I got better at hockey. I got really good at hockey, um, when I was in my, uh, 30s and 40s, um, and wound up being able to play at a pretty high level. And that was, were you sort of in that, uh, uh, sort of LA hockey, uh, click? Or was it? No, I was in the Chelsea peers. Oh, gotcha. Yeah. Um, I do know that hockey click out in LA. I have played with them. But I had a lunchtime game every day at Chelsea Pierce for years, so I kind of open hockey. And then I joined a couple of leagues there. I still play on the weekends. I play roller hockey with a bunch of guys out in Santa Monica. And yeah, it's for me, it's the great sport. It's the one. It's the most beautiful sport. My kids are my boys. I got a little girl. My boys are 10 and eight, and they are obsessed with sports movies. And it just occurred to me that, you know, Boulder, I'm coming up, but I feel like 10 and eight are still a little young from yeah, as much as I'd love for them to get there. It's more like Sandlot time and yeah, they did league of their own, which is perfect. Yeah. And I feel like we can get maybe even to Major League, but there, I think there's just too much. It's too steamy and a good way. Well, they're too steamy. Yeah, it's too steamy and there's some bad language. Yeah. Major League is a bad language too. Those kids use bad language. Yeah, we got a problem with our kids in language, yeah, they've crossed the Rubicon of bad language, sadly. What's the worst thing they say? I mean, they say they have word all the time and it's, I don't know where they, I mean, they don't they pair it with you and say it to you? It's bad. Yeah. Ouch. It's really bad. You got patients for that set, you got to set a limit. You got to set the, they walk all over me. It's that, I mean, I really, were you good at that, were you with your kids? Did you guys draw a firm line in the sand? Because I just, I had that moment has passed. I feel like they just, they, they clocked me as a push. Yeah. It's never too late. Okay. That's good. Discipline. No, I, I think we were pretty good about drawing a line. You know, it's funny, you don't really, like your kids, my kids, I get compliments from people all the time, you know, they're in their, their 30s and, oh, once over 40 now. But throughout their, throughout the last 20 years, I've been getting incredible compliments from others about how well behaved and polite and genuinely kind they are and, but whenever they're around me, they're just, it's, that's a way, it is, I mean, and I will, I like, I, I feel like a good educator will tell you, look, you get the worst of it. Like because they, your kids work really hard to, like, fit in at school and behave and, and like, they're good kids, but like, then the price is, you know, they come home and they're like, you know, they're still kids and they're just, expect, expect the unbridled id at home. So that's just going to emerge and, and it's great that it, they, they feel comfortable enough that it is allowed. Right. Because if that was suppressed at home, that could wind up with big trouble. It's kind of that thing you learn as a parent is unconditional love, you know, you can do whatever you, you can say whatever you want to say, you can act in whatever way I'm still going to love the hell out of you. It's just, it's just, it, there's no changing my resolve. And I'm, I'm going to love you no matter what. Yeah, it's a, they, they know that and they are really testing it. Yeah. You know what the best thing I've learned though recently though is that how important it is to have humility and as a, as a parent of, you know, people in their mid 30s and 40s, it's, it's a huge thing for them. If you have an apology in you about something or if you, you know, start a conversation with, you know, I was thinking about that time when you were 10 years old and I did this and I think I screwed up in a big way. Those, those conversations based in a truth, of course, you don't say it unless you, if you mean it. But those conversations can open doors to deep in relationships later in life. That's good to know. Well, I'm going to, I'm going to continue to make some mistakes. So I have something to apologize for. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors. This episode of Family Chips is brought to you by Kolo Guard, a non-invasive colon cancer screening test. No matter how young you look, Poshy, hmm, it's one of those things that's easy to put off because you think it'll be a hassle and life is so busy. Yeah, and I think a lot of people assume they need to schedule a procedure, take time off work or deal with all the prep that comes with a colonoscopy. 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Did you ever go back out there for trips when you were-- - Very little, we didn't have that much money. I left LA, I was stolen by my mother in 1960. So I was two years old. So I didn't really know LA. All I can think of is-- - For the first two and a half years in my life, it was very quiet and then it got very busy and loud. - Yeah. - When they moved to New York City. It's a great story, my dad was on the road with a group called the Cumberland Three. And he saw Greenwich Village for the first time and this lovely woman named Ronnie Gilbert from a group called The Weavers invited my father to a what they called a living wake for Cisco Houston, who was a friend of Woody Guthrie's. And Cisco was sick and dying and everyone knew it. And so the folk community in Greenwich Village at the time through a living wake for him and everyone got up on stage and said beautiful things and sang some of his songs and he was there to witness his own wake. And my father was included in that night and was so moved by it that he called my mother and said, you know, Mary, I think I found the place where we have to raise our children. It's in this community here. And so she put four kids in the station wagon, drove cross country to see it for herself, agreed, drove back, packed up the house. And that's how we moved to New York City when in 1960. - When she drove back to pack up the house, did she bring all four of you back with her or did she leave you with your dad? - She brought all four of us back. - Man. - She got expert in traveling with children across country. Man, oh man. So you're only two and a half for that. So you don't have real memories of that. - No, I don't have memories of that. My siblings do though. - And by the way, I'm sure your mom had memories of that until the day. - Oh yeah. - She passed. - She actually wound up writing an article for a newspaper on how to travel with children. - Really? - Were there any tips you remember from that article that are helpful for the modern parent? - Yes, don't push it. Eight hours a day, find a motel with a pool. - Yeah. - And have games for inside the car. - Yeah. - Just different various games. I remember singing. She used to sing a lot. We used to sing a lot in the car. - I mean, that's lovely. I mean, to have my kids do not have either parent that can carry a tune. But I would imagine that's very nice to have parents who can sing. - Well, particularly when you start singing in rounds in harmony, it's pretty crazy. - Was that something your children had? Did you, I mean, you probably had less of a road trip in a car when your kids were there? - Well, we had some road trips in cars. I remember those things with the little shades in them. And if you spot this, you get to shade it. - Yeah, yeah. - It's like an auto bingo, I think it's called. - Right. - Those, I found those. And then music was a big part of it. I introduced my children to punk rock this way. When you've got them locked up in a car, they have no choice. - And did they take to it? I'm trying so hard to introduce my music to the kids when they're a captive audience. And I feel like just if they know its music, I like it, it's a strike against it. - That's the problem. If you say kids, you gotta hear this. They're gonna hate it. - Yeah. - But if it's just on, it's just osmosis. At some point they, it will-- - That's a good tip. For your article, that's a good tip. When you write one about traveling with kids, I like that. - I got it. - Just punk rock, try to like meet them where they are in terms of an energy level. It seems like that might amp you up to a place. - How does their energy, it's like, you think you can throw a tantrum? Check this guy out. - Yeah. We were playing a game. I started it just because we were driving the other day, a home from the airport and I had three kids in the car and it was just me, my wife wasn't with me. And they were losing their minds. And so I came up with a game of like, all right, we're gonna go around each kid. You have to find something out the window that starts with an A. I was just something, find something that starts with an A and just to go back to like my kids in language. When it got to D, my oldest son just pointed at his dick. (laughing) That was-- - And I'm just like, what are we doing? I don't wanna look out the window at my name. He literally was like, dad, dad, dad. And then he was like, pointed down. I'm like, I don't care if you're any of you. - Oh my God. - Well, ABC was also Ass Ball's cock. So. - Yeah. (laughing) - So, I get it. So you guys were, you know, you have artists or parents. There's four kids. I'm assuming, I mean, what would you guys take trips or did you just not have the means for that kind of thing? - So, not a lot of trips, because we did, well, we lived in New York City, didn't have a car. But occasionally we would take a trip. Like in 1966, 65 or 66, I forget. We were invited to do this promotional tour for Everettie Batteries. Because my dad was a singer and a played guitar, it was called The Everettie Robinses. Cordless Corners with The Everettie Robinses. And we got in a car and went around the Eastern Seaboard as far west as St. Louis. And would go to TV stations and radio stations and sing songs, the four kids and my parents. And so that was a summer on the road, where we were hitting various places and doing these TV shows. My first taste of show business, I was seven, I think. And we'd sing The Ink Is Black, The Pages White, together we learned to read and write that songs like that. And I remember a lot of those, it was a rambler station wagon. And it was a huge adventure. Every place we went, there was more fun stuff to do. You know, baseball games in St. Louis and hotels and pools. And was this, so how do your parents present this? Like, hey guys, we're going to go on a road trip, but we're also going to be performing as a family. Was that something like, when they explained it to you, was that shocking or was that sort of the norm for your family and how you'd been grown up? I don't even really remember them explaining it. I just, I just remember just being at the first TV station going, okay, we're going to sing. We'd do this all the time, right? I mean, I guess that probably helps not having anxiety about it to just all of a sudden be singing on television. Yeah, never had they feeling like, if I screw this up, this will be bad. I never had that feeling. Was that true of your other siblings? Did you, were you all wired the same way? I don't remember anyone freaking out and saying, I don't want to do this. Yeah, matching outfits. Did you guys, were you all dolled up? No, no, that would have been weird. Yeah, but we had been exposed to our father on stage for years. And so it seemed like a natural thing to do. I'd seen him in concert and-- Were those local? Would you just go kind of to go to a folk club in the Greenwich Village and watch your down on stage? Or would you travel? Yes, but also folk festivals that were around the Tri-State area. There was that whole, it was a pretty beautiful world, actually, of, I think, I don't think they've really gotten it right in film yet, but it was an intensely welcoming community. Wasn't cynical, it was quite beautiful. Were those festivals, would you be at a hotel where you guys came from. campers at all? Not campers. No, we would we were more motel kind of people. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and then the motel pool, I'm assuming got worn out by you and your siblings. Yeah. Yeah. Did you when you would go to those festivals, uh, would you see music that wasn't your dad and and did you have a taste for it? Did you enjoy it? I did. Um, yeah. Pete Seeger was, uh, uh, I remember he was around. I remember him. My sister telling a story of Pete Seeger, uh, carrying her to the car when she was asleep. It was falling asleep. Um, Dave Van Ronk was around. It was there was some really good, good musicians. Um, incidentally all inspired by, you know, this whole wave of people that wound up in Greenwich Village in early 60s was inspired by, uh, troupe doors that were going around the world, uh, on the world, uh, the United States, particularly one in particular, Pete Seeger, who would be in a famous musician and was blacklisted and instead of, uh, falling into the traps that happened when that happens, like alcoholism and bitterness and anger. He just went on the road with his banjo and would pull into a town and book a place and get on the radio station and perform and what he'd get up there. He'd say, you know, I used to be in a group called The Weavers and I need your help with the harmonies. So he would, that's how he got all these audiences to sing along with him. And in those audiences throughout the United States, as Pete was doing his little missionary work, there were future folk singers, including Joan Baez, who writes about it in her book. It said the first time I knew I could sing was at a Pete Seeger concert. And, uh, so, uh, all of this, all of these people came from all of the United States to this Mecca in Greenwich Village. Um, and all, all, by the way, created by someone that was dealing with adversity in a very healthy way. Were you, did it ever occur to you that you would have a profession that would not be artistic or based on your family? Did you sort of know your path at early age? Well, I never knew it would, I didn't take it for granted that it would be a profession, but I, I feel like I knew I would be doing it in some capacity in my life. Whether or not you got paid for it, that was what you were going to wait for that. And indeed, I didn't get paid for it for the first 15 years I did it. So, you know, it's, yeah, that's just the way it is. I mean, it's pretty good. I mean, uh, obviously, uh, it shows it, it's your passion when you do it for 15 years that I can pay for it. It's something, what I tell people when they ask me advice on, on, you know, how do I become an actor, etc, etc. I, but I usually say is, listen, if it's something that, by not doing it, you'll be miserable then maybe you should do it. Right. If it's going to drive you crazy to not do it, then do it. Because it, don't think the rewards are going to be fame or, or fortune. That happens with very few people. And, um, so it has to be something, the motivation has to be that it brings you joy and you, and you can't live without it. Yeah. Um, and then pursue it. And because then if you don't, if you don't quote unquote, make it, you're still finding joy in it. And that's ultimately going to feed your soul in a, in a great way. But if it's something that you feel is only worthy if it means fame, then please don't do it. Yeah. Did you and your siblings all stick close to New York? No, we, we all wound up on the West Coast. Okay. When you grow up in New York, it kind of loses its lustre. Um, you know, uh, I, but that said, I did raise my children in New York. Um, and then I wound up in latter years on the West Coast. Yeah. Did you and your siblings and parents get together in later years? Would you have reunions? Um, I, they wound up traveling all over the place. They, they went, when my mom retired, they went, they took to the road. So, um, should we wait on this siren or can you hear that? Is this, is it, we can't, but I do want to point out it's not coming from New York City just because I think our listeners would assume that it's my siren, but it's not. Well, it's actually in New York City. Well, all right. Well, strike against it. Uh, strike against it. Son of a gun. Take that. I lose again. Um, Myers loses again. Yeah. We don't have sirens where I live. No, no, no, no, no. Of course, no. We have helicopters. Oh, that's nice. Yeah. They, uh, so, um, we would get together. Uh, and before they passed, we, we had a few times together. Um, yeah. Yeah. And what, we're, what were your parents travels then? Would they, did they, like, buy an RV and cruise around? Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. They, they did, uh, they did the, um, we don't, we were going to look for a place to live, but we're going to be on the road while we do it. And they wound up, uh, they wound up blowing the s nest thing. They wound up, they just kept trying to wait this. Uh, this is my, you're telling me a couple of musicians were bad with money? Oh, my goodness. Um, yeah, they wound up, uh, they, you know, they wanted to be someplace warm. So they went, they went south and, uh, in Tennessee and Texas and Florida and then they realized, maybe we want to try the south of France. Oh, wow. So they went to Europe into Italy and France and Spain and, and then by the time they got back, they pretty much had blown through the nest again. So they wound up, uh, instead of, you know, doing an RV park, they found a home in the south and, uh, uh, in actually in Mexico. Oh, wow. Beautiful area in Mexico. And, uh, wound up retiring there and, um, you know, uh, they, uh, this was a very sweet story. I, uh, before my dad died, I went down with a, uh, video camera and did some interviews with both of them. And I got about 10, 12 hours interviews. And I, I just wasn't able to look at them until just this past year. And this is about 10 years ago. They died. They died 12 days apart. And, um, it's, I was watching this about five months ago and I thought, oh, my goodness, this is a beautiful film. Yeah. This is a beautiful romance. And I got to tell that story. So I'm, that's, um, that's become something that's, uh, uh, on the back burner right now, but we shouldn't be on the front burner to create a film out of my parents' beautiful journey. Was it a thing that you observed your whole life that your parents were in a loving, wonderful partnership? No, that's not the way you look at it. You look at it like through the prism of the, the, the lens of, whatever is going on in the culture at that moment, right? Yeah. And so growing up in the late 60s, early 70s, we saw our mother through the prism of that feminist lens. And even though she was a working woman and, uh, learning a very good living, uh, we always, I think the society was asking us to look at the, the patriarchal problem, right? And so we, so don't think you're not immune or don't think you're immune to the, to the propaganda. It's, it's always there. And so it took till the last five, six years for me to look at it in a different way and realize, oh my god, they were in love. That's, that's the, that was at the core. It wasn't any subjugation or oppression. It was just simply love. Yeah, it was simply she dug him and he dug her and all, you know, apply whatever you want from any textbook or any sociological survey, it had, those have nothing to do with what that was going on with them. Well, it's not, you're right, though, right? That trumps everything. That trumps the moment. That trumps the trends. If two people love each other. Yeah. And kids are, you know, when you're growing up, at the time we grew up, we, you know, it was almost like every woman has, has been oppressed. And so therefore, they had to have been in our family as well. And not at all in retrospect. 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You know, when they looked at their kids where they like, gosh, we made, how about that? I think so. I think that they, well, look at it this way. They were, they were looking at the choice being West Covina, California or Greenwich Village, United States. Yeah. (laughing) And I think, I think they were bored. Quite frankly, I think they were, I think they wanted adventure. And they didn't view having children as something that's gonna keep you from adventure. Right. And so it was risky what they did, but they pulled it off. And when dad got here, things started going really well for him. And he got, he became part of this successful group called the High Women and they toured for five years, did five albums together and, you know, carved their way through a certain part of music history. And at the same time, he was dealing with the challenge of raising children in a moral way in a city of decadence. And we had to, you know, he had to navigate, and my mom had to navigate, how do you do that? There was a connection with the Catholic church that both of them had, that was part of it. But also just within that, you have to have a rigorous scrutiny of everything. And I think at times, it probably was a little overwhelming for them. Drugs became a big thing in the village in the '60s. And my brother, you know, had to dance along the alleged of that for a while. And it was difficult. There were difficult times. It was raising kids in a social experiment in a lot of ways. You know, that being the epitome of what other people would call the liberation or freedom was oftentimes manifested in violence and danger. And particularly for children. So it was a survival. And I think they were, I think they were proud of their choice to move there. I don't know that they knew how challenging it would be. But we all survived it, all the children survived it. And I think it made us much more well-rounded individuals, more curious, more intelligent than we would have been growing up in West Kovina. Although, I'm sure there's geniuses that come out of West Kovina. Yeah, we don't want to be hard on West Kovina. No, I love it. It's my birthplace. Did your kids go down to Mexico when your parents were there? Did they? Yeah. Yeah. Did they have a good relationship with your parents? They had, I wish it had been better. I wish that they had seen them more. And so it's kind of my job to tell them that story. And that's part, another reason I want to do that film. It's a worthy story. Was the Mexico place coastal? Yes. Well, that's nice. I mean, it feels like for somebody burnt through a nest egg, they ended up pretty well. Well, you know, they had a kid that helped them out. You know, my grandfather taught me the greatest lesson he said, um. He said, "If you're going to be generous, be anonymous," he says, "There's no generosity in publicizing your generosity." And it was very true. He was a wise man. Yeah. Well, also, we noticed you kind of worked through a loophole there. I mean, I think anybody listening also. You mentioned it just so that I. You don't want people. Yeah. You want to. This should also be a cautionary tale to not burn through your nest egg, you know what I mean? They. But you know what? I looked at it and I was like, "God, I admire it." I just like. Yeah. You've got your nuts. It's great that they stayed nuts. I mean, or they stayed on the edge of danger. They seemed like. Yeah. Because fascinating people. Like, it would have been disappointing if late in life they were like, "Yeah, we, you know, good news. Put money aside for a condo in Scottsdale." Yeah. That's not where they were supposed to land. Yeah. No. They had an adventurous life. It was. They did it up. Did you. Was there ever a time in your life that you. That your parents and the four of you were on an airplane together? Parents? No. That's something. Yeah. No. I mean, I mean, I can only imagine how quickly in their lives your children were on an airplane with you guys. Exactly. Like birth. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But no, we'd never took a plane trip anywhere. Yeah. Interesting. What were the best car games that you had? Yeah. What were the. What were the Robin's go-toes? Well, it was the. Oh, I guess you said the bingo. Travel bingo. Yeah. Yeah. But then the car game became the, you know, the technology. The iPads and the games and the little electronic games became really great for long trips. Our dad used to do something that, looking back, I'm amazed by it, he would play family feud in the car where he would be driving and he would say, "Top five most popular states to ski in." And then he would just like mentally make a list on his own. He would be. And then we would just like, he'd sort of yell out, you know, "Color out of you." Like, yeah, that's number one. That's really awesome. He could do it while he was driving. He could come up with a list and he could like mentally hold it. Yeah. Yeah. And I just. You know, there's that thing when you look back at how your parents behave. Now that you're a parent and you realize how tired you are all the time, that they had the energy to do stuff like that. You just are retroactively in awe and full of appreciation for that. Yeah. Yeah. I would get into prolonged periods of like when the kids were young, I really got into playing again, you know? Like, getting down on the floor with some blocks and some action figures, creating an entire world. Right? Well, it's permission. You probably didn't have permission to do that until you had children. At some point, it's like, "Hey, come on, Tim." Yeah. I would go for hours. Yeah. And they'd be like, "Dad, I'm good done." Yeah. Well, the worst is when you realize they're like, "No, dad, we're doing this." I'm like, "No, no, no, this. This." And you're like, "Oh, it's not." But this isn't. I shouldn't be taking the lead. Yeah. Yeah. Jack, you don't understand, I've created a whole castle over here and there's a mode here and he got to jump over the mode. I called Seth recently on a FaceTime and the whole time we were talking, he was putting together a Lego ship and none of his kids were around. And I was like, "Isn't that for the kids?" He's like, "Yeah, but this is, it just like soothes me, so I'm just going to keep on people." Well, also they had just unloaded this whole, like, just giant, like, clipper ship of Legos on our kitchen table and then, like, idly, just left it there. I'm like, "It's just going to be a pile of Legos unless somebody acts here." I've done that. Have you done the Christmas morning thing where you have to all Christmas morning, you have to put together the presents after they're opened? Yeah. And then there. By the way, you know, that's why a baseballman is the best thing, right, because they don't get bored of it. Everything a parent has to put together is, like, the inverse is the amount of time they're actually going to be interested in it. Absolutely. So, you just want to give them something that is already the thing it is. Yeah. Yeah, I would, without breakfast, be so irritated by noon. Yeah. I wound up hating Christmas, you know, and for the time being until next year, but. I should have known this going in, you know. That's a great way to put it, the inverse proportion. You're going to spend five hours putting this together and they're going to play with it for five fricking minutes. Yeah. And then they're, like, off with, like, the simplest thing in the world. Like then, you just look outside and they're throwing, like, last year's football, you know, that was a hammy down from friends that had kids who were older. Or were she at their playing with a stick they found on the ground? Like. I can't say it might be anything. I pick my kids up at camp and they each have a stick and they're like, don't lose my stick. I'm like, no, no problem. But guess what? If you lose it, there's more sticks for this one game, right? Yeah, but they'll know. No, they will. They gave you. Hey, by the way, Josh and I were huge fans of the wool series and the show's so good. Oh, thank you. Silo's just wonderful and it's a great cast and I hope you enjoyed as much as we enjoy watching. I loved it. It's great character. You got a big old juicy character, too. He's great. Big old juicy change in the character, you know, you go from one side of the spectrum to the other. But, you know, what was amazing about it, guys, was just this. The people that they put together for the way that people were treated, the crews, the cast, the director's writers, it was just a dream and I just pinched myself how lucky I was to be part of that group of people. And I was talking to Eric Abelino yesterday just to congratulate him. He's one of the directors on the show. Just to congratulate them on how they brought it home, you know, nine and ten were just episodes nine and ten were just masterful. You know, usually when you're watching this long form thing, you know, you're getting to the end of like, after three seasons, you're getting to the end of what, 30 hours of television? With streamers. Yeah, they're 34 hours. Yeah, and usually it's pretty underwhelming. You know, people are not really tying things up. It's not exciting. I think at the end of lost and all the, you know, various fanalities that kind of fumbled on the one yard line. And these guys, man, oh man, that episode ten killed me. It just set up the season for us in such a beautiful way. It was just like, "Oh, I can't wait. I can't." And I'm in it. I'm like, I'm, you know, high-priced. It's high-priced. I'm not joking around. I was so happy with it. You know, because it gets to a point, you know, we're, you know, I'm an actor and I'm going to give my best to whatever project is going to have me and I'm going to try my best. But ultimately, whether they pull it off, that's other people. And oftentimes, you're just in this situation like this. You're on an interview and you're just having a BS your way through it. And, you know, because you're really disappointed in what happened or you just don't think it lived up to its potential or whatever. But here, I'm just, I'm just so over the moon impressed by Graham Yoast and all the people he put together. I mean, Graham Yoast is an all-timer. Yeah. Very, by the way, I love when actors do the thing you just did where they talk about, you can tell they genuinely like a project. And then you, you see him like a couple months later and you're like, no, he's talking about this one different. Yeah. Yeah. Ask me the, ask me the question again, and I'll do the other. Okay. Oh, and I love him, really good. I really like Rebecca Ferguson. I think she's great. I'll tell you this, Rebecca Ferguson, really good talk show guest. She's lovely. She's the best. I mean, I say there's love, fucking loon. She's a loon and that's why I love her. Yeah. We need more loons. We need more loons and more babies. Yep. Loonatics and babies, this is what will populate the future. By the way, this is what your parents did. They were like, you know what? We're a couple of loonatics. Let's have four kids. Yeah. the better for it. Why not? You know, who knows what's going to happen? Tim, this has just been delightful talking to you. And we're going to let you go. But first, Josh is going to grill you with our speed round questions. Okay. I'm going to have my last sip of coffee before you speed roll. Okay. Yeah. Let that caffeine carry you through. Go, Josh. You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous, or educational? Oh, damn. Well, it depends. Yeah, I want all three of those. Okay. That's why we put in. You can only pick one. I know. I'm going to go with adventurous. Okay. What is your favorite means of transportation? Bicycle. If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with? The trap family. All right. Great. If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be? Oh, that's going to that's going to wind up costing me in some way. Well, that's just it. Yeah. So you got to balance that out. One member of my family. Aha. My great, great, great, great, great grandfather. Yeah, nobody can burn you for that one. What was his name again? John Robbins. Yeah. Okay. Hard to check. Hard to fact check. No, it's true. He's got a grave actually in Massachusetts. All right. He was in 1640. I think he landed. Wow. I want to pick his brain. That would be nice. What is a dream destination for a family vacation? We did it. Bali. Oh, nice. Yeah. My family did it with my kids. Yeah. Susan had a job that fell through with the last minute and it was really how we were going to be spending the summer and I said, all right, we got two months off. Let's go someplace and we did Bali and it was great. Nice. Now you can pick which one of these you want to go with. You're born in West Kovina, but you really kind of feel like you're from Greenwich Village. If you had to get more families to come visit, the one of those you consider your hometown, what would you tell them about it? To either West Kovina or Greenwich Village. You feel more Greenwich Village to me? Yeah. I am more Greenwich Village. What would I tell a stranger about Greenwich Village? No. If you had if you wanted to get more families to come visit Greenwich Village, but that's the thing I wouldn't want them to come. Okay. But that's the you got hired and that's your job. You're like, okay, I have to do it. Yeah. So it's sort of like if you didn't like a project, but you had to do a series of interviews and press junk. I'm going to go with there's very expensive apartments in places that in places that used to be rent controlled for like 50 a month now, you can pay 10,000 a month. It's really great. That's really cool. As somebody lives there, it's really cool. All right. And then Seth has our final questions. All right. Tim, have you been to the Grand Canyon? Yes. Was it worth it? I didn't really spend a lot of time. That was very clear by the way you answered the question. Yeah. I would say let me answer no. I have not been to the Grand Canyon. Do you want to go? Yes. Why not? Okay. That's it. I feel like the right way to answer that. Now, there's no real reason why, but like why not is it safe for answer because it's such an emergency. I want to drive up to the edge of it and apparently you can't do that. Well, yeah. It could collapse. This has been delightful, Tim. Thank you so much for making the time. It's just such a pleasure. Thank you, Seth. Much appreciated. Thanks, Josh. To me too. We'll see you soon. You're the best. All right. Bye bye. Bye now. Bye. Oh, hello. I'm going to tell you the story about John Robbins. Great, great, great, great grandson, Tim. And his family's travels across the United States of America and some of the adventures they had along the way. Tim Robbins' daddy headed east to check out New York City and fell in love with Greenwich Streets, also alive and gritty. He called his wife, said, pack the kids time for a change of sena. They made their way across the state, said goodbye West Covena. From the marching band to a change of plans they'd entered the arena. The Robbins tribe, it all arrived from the peaceful West Covena. In the heart of Greenwich Village, Tim learned to run and fight. He'd roller skate to hockey, but he'd be back at night. He might go play some softball or hang out on the roof and look below at the non-stop show. Don't trust Uncle yelled by psychos in the heart of Greenwich Village. Put your money in your sock, going down the block paints quite the perfect image with a baseball bat in a railroad flat in the heart of Greenwich Village. In a summer in the 60s as they were back out on the road, a family of pros on the TV shows. They sang forever ready, ink as black and paint as white, selling batteries with harmonies, keeping cool in the hotel pool in a summer in the 60s. And best of all, were festivals, motels were standard lodgings and sing along to seeker songs in the summer with the robbins. (crying)