Chris Ayala recounts his childhood experience moving to Whitehall, Pennsylvania, with his family in the early 1990s, where they purchased a neglected, old house at a low cost. Though initially excited about the move, especially as a 14-year-old entering high school and seeking self-discovery through music, Chris quickly developed a persistent sense of unease. He describes the house as feeling “creepy,” with decaying walls, old furnishings, and a hostile energy that became apparent during renovations—particularly when they tore up the carpet and discarded an oil lamp. These moments sparked a deep, intuitive belief that something in the house was angry or watching. Growing up in a financially strained, emotionally unstable household with little social support, Chris linked his feelings to a personal need for change and identity. His Catholic upbringing and family dynamics eventually eroded, leaving emotional voids. Despite the facts being mundane, Chris insists the house’s atmosphere was profoundly unsettling, and he has long been reluctant to share these feelings due to fear of being labeled crazy. His story blends personal trauma, environmental unease, and psychological insight into a narrative of early encounters with the uncanny.
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This week, a bonus episode that comes from a man named Chris,
who grew up in a small town called Whitehall, Pennsylvania.
When he was 14 years old, his family bought their first house.
And this was a big moment for Chris and his family.
They grew up poor, and even though this landmark was something they were very proud of,
as Chris began to settle into this new home,
he could not shake the feeling that something was deeply wrong about it.
I'm going to let Chris explain the rest himself.
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My name is Chris Ayala.
I'm 40 years old.
I live in New York City right now.
I'm from the Bronx originally, but I ended up moving to Allentown, Pennsylvania when I was 8 years old.
So Whitehall, Pennsylvania is a suburb of Allentown, and Allentown's in the Lehigh Valley in Pennsylvania,
which is Allentown, Easton, and Bethlehem.
And it was a pretty industrial place.
It was a pretty industrial place back in the day, but when we moved there in the 90s, early 90s,
it had pretty much, there was no industry there at all really anymore.
Most of the things had gone away, so it was super cheap to live there,
which is why I'm assuming my family from the Bronx, we lived in the projects,
why my family from the projects decided to move to Allentown, Pennsylvania.
Cheaper, nicer place to live.
Unfortunately, though, growing up there, it was kind of like a drag.
It was kind of a bummer.
Not much really going on.
In the beginning, it was kind of weird being from the Bronx and moving there and going to school.
I remember just, I remember being nervous living in that area and meeting new people.
I, for, you know, for a little kid, I thought like we were rich.
I thought like we made it.
I'm like in a nicer school, different people all around, looked, seemed like a nicer apartment.
But growing up there was kind of a bummer, if I'm being honest.
You know, I didn't really make friends until I was a junior in high school.
That's when I made like closest friends.
I had a pretty rough time living there, but it's an old town, old industrial town.
Not much going on, kind of sleepy, very boring.
In fact, one time I took my girlfriend there and we were driving to the house that my mom lives in now, and she was looking out the window in a very serious way, not joking at all.
She said, now I know why you listen to the music that you listen to.
And I listen to like emo-y type shit, you know, I'm 40 years old.
So it was kind of my generation's music.
So she's like, now I get it.
And I always found that to be funny.
So I grew up Catholic.
I wouldn't say strict, but my family.
My family was pretty all about it.
You know, I mean, we did all the sacraments that we're supposed to, baptism, confession, communion, and then confirmation, all that stuff.
They were pretty big on it.
I was honestly into the religious part of my life for a while.
I wouldn't say I was religious, but I liked these stories and I liked the idea of something bigger, I guess.
My dad was very, very into it.
My mom, she was into it too, but I think it might have been more just for like to do the right thing.
So we don't go to hell kind of thing.
But I think my dad was really into it, which when later things happened in my life with my parents' relationship, it kind of, the religious part of my life just kind of fell apart because of those things.
But mostly I think it had to do with the house.
So it was 2000.
We were living in a small apartment.
It's the same apartment we had been living in in Whitehall since we moved there from the Bronx.
It was a two bedroom.
So it was me, my little brother, and my sister.
We were all sharing one room.
My parents had their bedroom.
And then there's a tiny apartment that we lived in.
My mom ended up getting pregnant.
So therefore, when this happened, we were all like, oh, shit, what's going to happen?
Like, there's going to be no room for us.
And I remember specifically once my dad had picked my sister and I up from some sort of event at school.
And he's like, do you guys want to see something?
Like, yeah, sure.
So he takes us over.
He pulls over to a house.
He gets out and he unlocks the door to this house.
We're going in.
I'm like, what's going on?
He's like, I bought this house.
And I remember at the time, I didn't, I don't have a good relationship with my dad.
I didn't have one then.
I don't, I didn't know how to have a conversation with him.
But I remember the first thing I asked him was how much did he spend on it?
As if I knew anything about money.
And he told me straight up, which was kind of crazy.
It's been $80,000 on this house.
It was a twin house on a corner, gray bricks on the outside.
Uh, I went inside.
It was old.
It had old seventies carpeting on the inside.
And my sister, he's like, take a look.
So my sister and I just walked around the place and I just automatically be lined up the stairs.
And I saw there was an attic and I'd be like.
It was like a finished attic you could say, because there was rooms in there, but it was
all, the house was kind of falling apart.
Walls were chipping.
It looked almost like a stereotypical haunted house.
The walls were like plastered and shipping.
The floorboards upstairs were old and kind of splintering, uh, old carpet, old furniture
in there.
And I was like, oh, this is kind of weird.
This is an old house.
Someone definitely used to live in here because all the shit's still in here.
So I, in my mind, I thought somebody probably died.
That's why my dad got this house cheap, but nothing.
It was creepy about it at that time at all, when we first went to the house, not at all.
So my dad had told us that we had, we were going to move into that house and I was very
excited about it.
I felt like this is, this is going to be great.
I'm going to have my own room finally, you know, it felt very exciting.
And then, um, it was February of 2000 when we actually moved in.
I remember cause it was snowing outside.
Now I was 14 years old.
I was a freshman in high school.
There was a lot going on.
My baby brother had just been born.
My home life wasn't great growing up also.
My parents were not the best.
They were quasi abusive.
I don't want to say fully abusive, but, um, it wasn't great, you know?
So my relationship, my mom wasn't the best relation with my dad, even worse.
And uh, like I said, I had no fucking friends at all.
I had to like eat lunch with my fucking sister.
I'm sorry.
I'm cursing.
I had to sit with my sister at lunch.
You know, I was just a weirdo.
I was into like choir and music and things.
I didn't have my footing.
I didn't know who I was yet.
I just started listening to.
Incubus, that Make Yourself album.
Like that's what I was into.
And like, it was like inspiring me to be like, yeah, make yourself be your own person.
And um, that's where I found like my, my peace was like, okay, you know what, we got this
new house.
It's my freshman year.
Uh, I've got these, this new kind of music that I'm listening to.
And I felt like I was going to be a new person.
So it was like a whole new beginning about who I was and who I was going to be.
This house was a part of it.
You know, it was all very exciting to be honest.
Um, yeah.
No bad feelings at all in the beginning now.
So we move in and my mom hated the way the house looked on the inside.
Now reminder we're poor, but my mom was like, let's get this shit out of here.
So she had us with fucking box cutters going through tearing up the carpet, ripping that
up.
And that right there.
I'll never forget.
We, we, I remember specifically two things, ripping up the carpet and all the stuff underneath.
Uh, and throwing that out.
And while doing that, I felt like this is something's wrong.
I knew right away.
We were just, I felt it.
That's the first time I felt anything in that house where I was like, this isn't right.
Something's up with this.
Something doesn't like this.
And then I remember specifically throwing away an oil lamp.
I don't know if you've ever seen those oil lamps that like drip oil is real creepy looking.
It didn't work.
But I remember throwing that outside in the trash heap that we had and feeling like this
is wrong.
Also like something about that thing just felt weird.
So rip it up the carpet, throwing that specific piece of a lamp, whatever you want to call
it.
Chachki out.
That was it.
Like, I felt like something was off immediately.
I felt as if there was something there that was mad.
We were throwing away at stuff like they had worked on that house.
This is the hard part about telling these stories is there's I've, that's how I felt
the whole time, but I've never really shared that with anybody because saying those little
parts makes, I think makes someone sound crazy.
So I was like, why do I feel like someone is mad?
Right now?
But that's exactly what I felt.
Somebody's mad that we're doing this.
I don't know who it is, what it is.
And I didn't feel like anything was going to happen over it, but I just felt like this
is wrong.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Chris Ayala moved from the Bronx to Whitehall, Pennsylvania, in the early 1990s with his family due to financial hardship and the availability of cheaper housing.
At age 14, his family purchased a dilapidated, old-style house on a corner with peeling walls, old carpeting, and a finished attic, which initially seemed like a positive change for his life.
Despite the excitement of moving into a new home, Chris immediately sensed something was wrong—feeling that the house was “creepy” and that something within it was “mad” or angry.
The first signs of discomfort came during renovations when the family tore up the carpet and discarded an oil lamp, both moments that intensified his feeling that the house was hostile or watching them.
Chris grew up in a poor, unstable household with strained parent-child relationships and minimal social connections, making the emotional weight of the house’s atmosphere more significant.
His personal journey of self-discovery through music like Incubus’s *Make Yourself* coincided with the move, giving him a sense of identity and hope for a new beginning.
The religious foundation of his upbringing dissolved over time, especially as his parents’ relationship deteriorated, leaving emotional and spiritual gaps.
Chris has never fully shared these feelings with others, fearing they might be seen as irrational or overly dramatic, yet insists they were genuine and deeply felt.
Summary:
Chris Ayala recounts his childhood experience moving to Whitehall, Pennsylvania, with his family in the early 1990s, where they purchased a neglected, old house at a low cost. Though initially excited about the move, especially as a 14-year-old entering high school and seeking self-discovery through music, Chris quickly developed a persistent sense of unease. He describes the house as feeling “creepy,” with decaying walls, old furnishings, and a hostile energy that became apparent during renovations—particularly when they tore up the carpet and discarded an oil lamp.
These moments sparked a deep, intuitive belief that something in the house was angry or watching. Growing up in a financially strained, emotionally unstable household with little social support, Chris linked his feelings to a personal need for change and identity. His Catholic upbringing and family dynamics eventually eroded, leaving emotional voids.
Despite the facts being mundane, Chris insists the house’s atmosphere was profoundly unsettling, and he has long been reluctant to share these feelings due to fear of being labeled crazy. His story blends personal trauma, environmental unease, and psychological insight into a narrative of early encounters with the uncanny.
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Chris Ayala grew up in the Bronx, New York, before moving to Whitehall, Pennsylvania, when he was 8 years old.
Chris's family moved into a small, aging house in 2000, which Chris felt was deeply unsettling from the start due to its deteriorated state and eerie atmosphere.
Chris felt something was wrong when his family started tearing down the carpet and throwing out an oil lamp, as he immediately sensed that something in the house was angry or disturbed.
Chris was excited and hopeful about the new house, seeing it as a fresh start, especially after being isolated and struggling with family issues and lack of friends.
No, Chris's mother disliked the house's appearance and tried to remove everything, but Chris felt an immediate sense of unease and a presence that seemed angry or hostile.
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