Thomas Aquinas on Vocational Discernment - Fr. Irenaeus Dunlevy, O.P.
from The Thomistic Institute
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The podcast explores the contrast between the bold, immediate discernment of St. Anthony the Great and the modern tendency toward long, uncertain, self-centered discernment processes. Through the lens of St. Thomas Aquinas, it argues that true vocation is not a prolonged internal debate but a response rooted in faith and prudence. Aquinas distinguishes between being in a “state of perfection” through vows and being “perfect in charity,” affirming that consecrated life is more directly oriented toward holiness, though marriage also leads to sanctity. He emphasizes that God’s grace is foundational to human existence and action, making all decisions—especially entering religious life—a matter of trust, not human certainty. The virtue of prudence, not hesitation, guides one to act rightly and timely, as seen in St. Anthony’s swift response to Christ’s call. Aquinas rejects long deliberations, asserting that such processes distort the nature of God’s grace and the urgency of spiritual response. While practical advice and counsel are valuable for addressing obstacles like debt or health, they should not replace a faithful, courageous step toward vocation. The ultimate call is not to over-analyze, but to live with confidence in God’s action, trusting that He will strengthen and guide those who follow Him boldly, as the saints did. This model offers a renewed vision of vocation—one grounded in divine action, prudence, and the courage to respond.
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So rather than beginning with St. Thomas Aquinas, we'll instead turn to the frightfully
powerful and quick discernment of the father of Christian monasticism, the third century
desert father St. Anthony the Great. In the widely popular work, The Life of St. Anthony,
written by St. Athanasius in the fourth century, one sees the peculiar instance of a young man's
life being changed rapidly by a potent hearing of the gospel. At the age of 18 to 20, he
was a regular church attendee, perhaps motivated by the condition of being orphaned. On one
faithful day, roughly six months removed from the burial of his parents, he attended
mass with his mind already pondering the example of the apostles. So he recalled how they
had left all things behind to follow Christ. It was in this context, Athanasius writes,
that Anthony heard the Lord's voice in the gospel of Matthew, "If you want to be perfect,
go, sell all you have, and give the money to the poor, you will have riches in heaven,
come follow me." In the gospel, Christ speaks to a nameless, rich young man who had asked
the question, "What must I do to be perfect?" Anthony, however, heard these words from
the eternal word, as though they had only ever been spoken to him and for him. It was
an invitation, a calling to leave all things behind and follow Christ. The future desert
father responded, selling his inheritance, providing for the poor, making arrangement for
his sister's care, and followed Christ out into the desert. How did Anthony come to such
a bold decision? Looking closely at the text, we see some clues. He not only listened
attentively to the sacred scriptures proclaimed during the liturgy, he also acknowledged that
the Lord was at work prior to mass beginning. Anthony knew that Christ was not only present
in the liturgy, but also in his mind, secretly inspiring his meditation on the example of
the apostles, the event that preceded his entrance into the church.
And short, Anthony discerned that God was at work within him, directing his imagination
to the life of the apostles, and awakening a desire to be like them. Responding to the
call, Anthony gave himself to unceasing prayer and became known to the villagers as the
friend of God. The example of St. Anthony depicts a bold, fearless, and readyed man capable
of responding to the daunting and high call of God. This model of discernment is most
alien in comparison to the language used today, which all but expects, timid, fearful,
and hesitant responders. Perhaps the example is hageographical, whereas our current condition
is more real. Or perhaps our thoughts are incredulous. Our current way of approaching
vocation could be deficient in comparison to other periods in the church. Turning to
St. Thomas Aquinas, we see something of the spirit of St. Anthony both in his own vocational
journey and his teaching about entrance into religious life. So there's less prevalent
talk about discernment. Maybe the title is clickbait. I'm not sure. You can accuse me
later. So first, a word about modern notions of vocation and discernment. The example
of Anthony does not model a long deliberative process. In the minds of many young persons
considering a state of life, it's presumed that one must deliberate for a long period,
whether it's marriage, religious life, or the priesthood. Some falling this model endured
long, undefined periods of introspection, questioning, and uncertainty. This can slip
into a type of paralysis by which one discerns one's discernment. This endless feedback loop
is the dreaded discernment trap. This unenviable position can last for days, weeks, years,
and in rare cases, one's whole life. You can ask me for names later. One possible reason
for this stagnation is that the discerner seeks certainty about matters of the heart.
That domain belongs to God, who alone probes a mind and tests the heart. Our own heart
is an enigma to us. Additionally, the discerner may seek certainty about the very plans
of God, which again is only discerned by the Spirit of God. Apart from an extraordinary
grace, the ways and thoughts of God remain other to us. We are ordinarily called to follow
him in faith one step at a time. In response to this discernment pitfall, contemporary
guides offer some sound and pragmatic solutions. Some suggest asking a set of three questions
each day. Questions that ultimately direct one's attention toward concrete objectives
like avoiding sin, seeking union with God, fulfilling daily responsibilities, and maintaining
friendship with God through prayer. This process can be a helpful reorientation of one's
thoughts and anxieties. It gets one out of oneself. So one is likely not to enter the discernment
trap by living out of those questions and accomplishing the tasks suggested by it. Other
more technologically savvy programs include apps, daily reflections, prayers, goals for charitable
actions. It even models intentional programming found in exercise communities, perhaps to motivate
and structure fretful minds and hearts that otherwise would retreat into the ambiguous
and therefore comfortable practices of discernment. Considering that Thomas Aquinas does not use
the expression "spiritual discernment," it's worth asking how we arrive at the prevalence
of this practice and this subsequent turn to the concrete particular, as I just mentioned,
of those two programs prior. Well, I certainly cannot answer the full extent of that question.
There's some evidence that the common usage of the expression developed in the late 17th
and early 18th century in the popularization and commentary on St. Ignatius of Loyola's
spiritual exercises. Though a classical notion of discernment for the Jesuit priest concerned
which course of action gave greater glory to God, that was what discernment was about.
What gives greater glory to God? In a similar vein, St. Catherine Asianna's treatment
of discrepancy in her mystical masterpiece, the dialogue, concerned itself with what
love demanded in a given situation. Discernment was about what is love calling me to here
and now. These earlier notions of discernment have an orientation to what is high or more
noble, which seems different from the current model of discernment, which is more preoccupied
with what is best for me. If we return to the example of St. Anthony,
we can recall that the question asked of our Lord is, what must I do to be perfect?
When Thomas Aquinas comments on this section of the Gospel of Matthew, he addresses the
two ways we can consider perfection in the following of Christ. Perfection itself and
the state of perfection. Now, for Aquinas, perfection consists in charity and therefore
one who is perfect, absolutely speaking, is perfect in charity, has charity to the full.
If you read his small treatise on the perfection of the spiritual life, you can see he speaks
of various degrees of charity, that which belongs to God, that which belongs to the saints,
and that which belongs to the Wayfarer, so that's you and I. So we can consider one's
own perfection of charity and also whether one's state of life is more perfect or less
perfect. This consideration, this latter consideration, is largely absent from conversations
concerning religious life today. So what does Aquinas mean when he speaks of a state
of perfection? Aquinas writes about it in several works throughout his life because his
chosen form of religious life, the order of preachers, was under scrutiny and attack.
The Dominicans along with the Franciscans were involved.
and what historians call the mendicant controversies.
So in addition to his philosophical and theological writing,
Aquinas has many writings defending the legitimacy
of the Dominican form of religious life.
A concise treatment of the state of perfection
appears in questions 171 through 189 in the Sakunda Sakunday,
what is typically classified as his treatise
of particular men given special graces,
or special graces given to particular men.
The general premise of the treatise
is that God gives sanctifying grace to all the baptized.
But for the upbuilding of the church,
for the manifestation of his glory,
he bestows particular gifts ordered toward
particular missions and favors.
We need only recall the example of the Blessed Virgin
married to understand this principle.
Chialone received the grace to be immaculately conceived,
and Chialone became the mother of God.
While teaching about the state of perfection,
Aquinas also orders various states of life.
So he's talking about different versions we can find.
While there are degrees of perfection in charity,
not possible to us in this life,
there is one degree that remains for an individual to pursue.
That is, for one to holdy love God and avoid
that which draws him away from the love of God.
The one's perfection is essentially found in charity.
One can enter into a state of life
by renouncing certain goods, which are not opposed to charity,
but that nevertheless hinder it.
These goods are marriage, material possessions,
and the exercise of one's own will to chart your own path.
The evangelical councils, poverty-chasing obedience,
are then considered instruments of charity
by which one seeks a greater freedom for following Christ
by professing those vows, poverty-chasing obedience.
Put another way, Aquinas states it as this.
Properly speaking, one is said to be in a state of perfection,
not through having the act of perfect love,
that is being strictly speaking,
but through binding himself in perpetuity
and with a certain salinity to those things
that pertain to perfection.
Aquinas clarifies prior to that statement
and subtly within it that one who is in a state of perfection
is not necessarily perfect in charity.
The mirror image of that truth is that those who are perfect
in charity are not necessarily in a state of perfection.
The latter example is exemplified by the many saints
of the church who were married, never becoming priests
or religious, while the former is exemplified
by the example of many bishops, men and women religious,
who fall short of perfect charity.
So no need to name names, but if you're curious,
you can just read Dante's Inferno, get his take on the matter.
His account of the damned does not exactly give
the same assurance as ecclesial canonizations,
but the Florentine poet helps put all those
in the state of perfection on notice.
While entering the state of perfection
is not a guarantee that one is or will become perfect
in charity, it is an entrance into a way of life
more directly ordered toward perfection simply speaking.
The perfection of the spiritual life
requires a vigilant adherence to the will of God,
the renunciation of all that is not him
and cooperation with the action of his grace.
There is merit for one who does not enter the state of perfect.
There is merit for one who does enter the state of perfection
because this way of life removes distracting goods
that weigh one down with anxiety, preoccupation,
and attention to the way of the world.
This is attested to by St. Paul,
who writes in 1 Corinthians chapter seven.
I should like you to be free of anxieties.
An unmarried man is anxious about the things of the Lord,
how he may please the Lord, but a married man,
it's anxious about the things of the world,
how he may please his wife, and he is divided.
An unmarried woman or a virgin is anxious
about the things of the Lord,
so that she may be holy in both body and spirit.
A married woman, on the other hand,
is anxious about the things of the world,
how she may please her husband.
I am telling you this for your own benefit.
Not to impose a restraint upon you,
but for the sake of propriety,
and adherence to the Lord without distraction.
This teaching may seem somewhat foreign
to our more contemporary teaching about the sanctity of marriage
in the universal call to holiness
that appears in the Second Vatican Council.
We can, however, maintain the notion
that marriage leads to sanctity
and that the life of virginity or consecrated life
is a better way of following Christ
or seeking sanctity.
Again, the distinction between the state of perfection
and being perfect in charity is important.
So although it may not be egalitarian,
Aquinas was keenly aware of the teaching of St. Paul
and the state of perfection
when writing about different paths
in the Christian way of life.
In his treatment on virginity and the summa,
he asks whether virginity is more excellent than marriage.
In the set Contra, he cites St. Augustine's writing
on his writing on the work on virginity,
which states that marriage is neither sinful
nor is it to be equaled to virginity.
To explain this further, Aquinas writes the following
in his "Respondeo".
According to Jerome, the error of Jemidian
consisted in holding virginity
not to be preferable to marriage.
This error is refuted above by the example of Christ,
who both chose a virgin for his mother
and remained himself a virgin.
And it's also refuted by the teaching of the Apostle,
which is from the passage I just quoted.
He counsels virginity as the greater good.
Continuing on, he says it is also refuted by reason,
both because a divine good takes precedence of a human good,
and because the good of the soul is preferable
to the good of the body,
and again, because the good of the contemplative life
is better than that of the act of life.
Now virginity is directed to the good of the soul
in respect of the contemplative life,
which consists in thinking on the things of God,
whereas marriage is directed to the good of the body,
namely the bodily increase of the human race,
and it also belongs to the act of life
since the man and woman who embraced the married life
have to think on the things of the world,
as St. Paul had alluded to.
And he finishes by saying without doubt,
therefore virginity is preferable to conjugal continents.
At the beginning of his response,
Aquinas references the controversy surrounding
Javinianism, which taught that marriage was equal
in merit to celibacy.
This teaching has been repeatedly condemned
by the church from the fourth century
to canon 12, canon 10, of the 24th session
of the Council of Trent.
You can find similar corrections in paragraph 1620
of the Catechism, and John Paul II,
familiarist consortium.
In that apostolic exhortation, the St. Paul writes,
rightly indeed, the St. John Christusum say,
whoever denigrates marriage also diminishes
the glory of virginity, whoever praises it
makes virginity more admirable and resplendent.
Continuing on, he writes, "Virginity or celibacy
by liberating the human heart in a unique way,
so as to make it burn with greater love for God
and all humanity bears witness that the kingdom of God
and his justice bears witness to the kingdom
of God and his justice.
It is for this reason that the church throughout her history
has always defended the superiority of this charism
to that of marriage by reason of the holy singular link
which it has with the kingdom of God."
So that concludes the quote from St. John Paul II.
So Aquinas has a very clear understanding
of the state of marriage in that of celibacy,
and particularly as lived in consecrated life.
This will give greater clarity.
When we look at the boldness,
Aquinas suggests in pursuing the state of perfection,
the saintly theologian is able to hold
the dignity and goodness.
of both marriage and religious life,
while also holding that the latter
possesses a greater merit in orientation toward beatitude.
Having established the proper understanding of the state
of perfection and its relation to marriage,
we need to cover two more teachings of Aquinas
prior to exploring his question dedicated,
holy dedicated to entrance into religious life.
The first teaching concerns the reality of the act of creation,
the second, the virtue of prudence.
Aquinas is clearly aware that without God,
we can do nothing.
In his commentary on John 155,
he states that Christ and referring to himself
as the true fine,
fine indicates the absolute dependence
the apostles have on him and by extension our dependence.
This teaching not only concerns matters of grace,
but also matters of nature as well.
By grace, it means that we cannot will our own salvation,
but we rather receive it from God as a gift.
The heresy of Pelagianism suggested that it was possible
for one by the virtue present within him
to will himself to salvation without divine assistance.
Baptism in this version of this heresy
is considered optional.
And grace not needed and it's utterly false.
Aquinas states that even beyond this teaching,
concerning grace are very acts of nature
require the assistance of God.
For it is in him and through him
that we live and move and have our being.
We cannot even think without God being at work.
Willing us in the very moment to exist and move and live.
You can recall St. Anthony pondering the apostles.
The act of creation is not simply a historic event,
a divine act that happened eons ago.
We are not merely riding the wave
of God's first interested nudge.
The truth about ourselves and all of reality
that we experience is that it possesses its being
or receives its being in a contingent mode.
We exist, but we could also not exist.
This is true of everyone in this room
listening to this recording and walking about
in Tampa this evening.
It's true of the trees, the animals and the brush,
the birds in the air and even the elements that compose
all the stuff of life.
They exist and could not exist.
And therefore require something or someone
to bring about that existence in the here and now.
If God stopped willing, the existence of ourselves
or any of the contingent beings I've mentioned,
we and they would all cease to exist.
This form of annihilation would take place faster
than the fading music of a violin
should the violinist cease his play.
That means in a clear and direct way,
God wills into existence each and every one of us
and everything around us.
Aquinas, even like in this act of creation,
to a relation found in the creature.
God is a principle of the very existence of the thing
and he wills the movement in time of everything that exists.
This theological fact can help ease
some of the modern fears concerning one's second act.
Before any person begins to will, move and even think
God is already at work in a foundational way
bestowing being, it bestowing existence.
Many, most anxieties in life do not even begin to ponder this dependence
but rather focus on whether one is taking a correct step,
pursuing the right goal, getting something right or wrong.
Prior to these decisions, important as they might be,
there is a gratuitous gift of creation
coming from a benevolent creator.
This is a great freedom when one's awareness,
this bestows a great freedom when one's awareness
of their free choice rests upon the creative act of God.
One is never alone without guidance or direction.
This is all the more true in matters of grace
when God bestows a further gift of being
and favor on those being sanctified.
Aquinas was very aware of the primacy of God's action
in the realm of nature and of grace.
The other teaching from Aquinas that gives us some context
for this question on entrance into religious life
is his articulation of the virtue of prudence.
This virtue of prudence is not simply being cautious
or hesitant or safe.
When we commonly speak of fiscal prudence,
it suggests actions like diversifying your portfolio
to reduce risk or other cautious behavior.
Rather than simply playing its safe prudence
is right reason in action.
The prudent person is one who makes the right choice
moves at the right time and then the right measure.
Prudence can be shrewd, bold, insurprisingly clever
to use a football metaphor.
Prudence resembles a masterful quarterback.
You think of Tom Brady with the Tampa Bay book nearest, right?
He effortlessly marshals the team during a two-minute drill
bringing about victory and glory for the city.
This virtue is particularly interesting
when considering pursuing your vocation
because its terminus is not simply in judgment,
thinking correctly about what you're to do,
but the terminus of the virtue is in action, moving toward something.
Discernment focuses on one's perception or judgment
about what is suitable or best.
And at a certain point, it seems inappropriate, right?
So imagine a couple that's been dating for several months,
perhaps they've met each other's families
and then the man says, okay, this has been great,
but I think I should discern whether to get the ring,
I'm going to take a step back and maybe take a retreat.
We certainly don't expect someone to rush into marriage,
but there's something quite unnatural about that move,
about that conversation.
Frankly, it suggests that things have not been going well
in that he wants it out.
So this is sometimes used.
It's like, oh, I think I need to discern the priesthood
or I need to discern religious life
and it's basically the end of a relationship.
A more natural expression of this dating circuit
would be for a couple to continue to spend time with each other,
pursuing together the good of marriage
until the man asks her father buys the ring
and boldly gets down on one knee.
This version of entering into the vocation of marriage
models prudence rather than discernment
because the suitor follows the natural steps
of seeking the end of marriage
by the integral means of dating, visiting, and fostering
a friendship.
There are, of course, moments of deliberation
or considering the next step,
but reason in action continues to pursue the good
in the proper context.
Not all discernment consists of removing oneself
from the pursuit of an end,
but there are instances of discernment in which changes,
there are instances of discernment
that sort of change course or stop the action steps
towards a particular end.
Desirment seemingly revisits the end chosen
all the while halting the means
that were previously decided upon for the given end.
And this becomes a trip hazard for the natural process
of exercising prudence.
The more natural choices in life,
those that don't involve the spiritual life
or vocation, we tend to pursue them naturally
according to prudence.
So you consider a career.
One ponders, you know, say, whether to be a lawyer,
a scientist, a doctor, a teacher, or something else.
So this period of election requires research
and likely talking to those who are already in the profession.
And at a certain point, one chooses a profession.
And that's what we'll call the end, the chosen end.
And then deliberation considers what steps
are necessary for that end.
So a lawyer.
So, you know, a lawyer trains out of firm
and firm select applicants with qualifications.
One gains qualifications from internships and a law degree.
Law degrees come from law schools
and law schools accept competitive candidates
who score well on the LSAT, have stellar recommendations
from the Tymist Institute.
have obtained undergraduate degrees. Those degrees come from various institutions who also have
their competitive application process and you see how you move from the end and go back and you
keep reasoning about the means until there's some step that you have to take. So it might be
applying to the school or taking a nap to build up your energy before taking that next step.
It starts to chart your course. So when Aquinas begins to write about taking the action steps
or the action step of entering religious life, he's drawing from previous thought in his moral
section of the Summathology. Instead of writing about a natural end such as becoming a lawyer,
he's much more interested in the one true end of all mankind. The perfection of human nature
found in the attitude. The question, what must I do to be perfect? He understands that human
nature has a perfect end. There are means to that end such as the life of charity,
reception of the sacraments, prayer, etc. Now it belongs to prudence to shape one's life
toward the end of perfection and there are various states of life that are on offer.
Some are considered to be the state of perfection and others are considered to be good,
such as marriage. Aquinas boldly describes one entering religious life.
He describes that one as one who has the grace to live it. That's why it's in this section
on special graces given to particular men, right, particular persons. This presupposes God's
action according to creation and the gift of grace. It also sherks a type of caution,
much like the example of St. Anthony the Great, who quickly responded to the call in the gospel.
Thomas Aquinas himself was not wavering in his own entrance into the Dominican order
as his family greatly resisted his call and they even went so far as the kidnap and
tempt him away from the life of virtue. With all that in mind, I'd like to run through a question
189, the closing question of the secundi secundi, the entrance into religious life,
where we see Aquinas boldly suggest action according to prudence rather than a self-searching,
self-searching discernment. Article 1 asks whether those who are not practice and the observance
of the commandments should enter religious life. It's important to note that he is not talking
about the priesthood, but simply the taking on of evangelical councils, the evangelical councils
of poverty, chastity and obedience by which one seeks sanctification. Aquinas is clear that the
apostle Matthew served as a tax collector and was not yet perfected in obeying the commandments.
He was fresh from the life of sin. In Aquinas' argument, he states that the life of conversion
is tested in the probationary period, what we call the novice. In principle, religious life is for
those practice in seeking greater virtue, but it is also for the weak, he says, who are seeking
to avoid sin and to receive the helps of the life. Entrance is for those seeking perfection,
not those who are already perfect. The second, third and fourth articles raise questions about
vowing to enter religious life, or to, sorry, vowing to enter the religious state.
And this is somewhat a historically situated problem, but it still offers insight for those
who are serious about pursuing a vocation. Here, Aquinas is not referring to the solemn vow
by which one promises obedience until death, and it also does not concern the contemporary version
of simple vows, which are made only for a period of time. These more solemn versions of vows
are unique with respect to other promises. For Aquinas, it's essential for a vow to be a vow
that it concern what is higher, so that is the sacrifice of a natural good for the spiritual good.
So we commonly talk about wedding vows, yet this is written about, and I think,
in the missile and in canon law, it doesn't use the language of wedding vows, but rather of consent.
And this is because it's a continuation of the understanding. Vows are about that which is higher.
So Aquinas has this notion. So returning to the question of a vow to enter religious life,
or enter the religious safe, it's helpful to reframe it as a private promise to God. So perhaps
a relevant example involves our Lenten promises, which are not exactly vows, but they nevertheless
hold us accountable to God. So whereas Lenten penances are for a season, the firm resolution of which
Aquinas writes concerns leading the world to enter the probationary period of religious life.
That is the novice. And making this firm resolution, one does not intend religious life in perpetuity,
but does resolve to see about it to the exclusion of other options.
That would mean resolving not to date until one enters an
inhibition or in our contemporary setting, applying to a religious order.
The current vetting process for one's entrance into religious life takes into account
psychological and mental evaluations, and there is often a vocation council that interviews
the candidate and evaluates whether God has bestowed the grace of a religious vocation.
Such processes were not present in the time of Aquinas. There were even stories of friars
immediately entering the religious state upon hearing a sermon. In one famous chronicle,
John of Saint Giles, a secular theologian at the University of Paris, received the habit and
dramatic fashion. He was preaching about voluntary poverty, and then convicted of the truth of his
sermon, he descended the pulpit, received the habit, the Dominican habit from Blessed Jordan of
Saxony, and then returned to the pulpit to complete his lecture. I have yet to hear of a contemporary
account of this. Somebody is coming down to receive a usually sign that they may not have the grace
tender, different context, different time. So it is probably for the best that we have more
testing of one's vocation prior to the probationary period that Aquinas writes about, and this kind
of testing is a wonderful help for those that need to grow in self-knowledge. It is sometimes a
blessing and guiding direction for a young man or woman to receive a no, or not at this time
response from the vocation director or council as it may be. This testing or vetting is also important
when considering Aquinas' fifth article, which concerns children entering religious life.
The social and legal structure of the 13th century was quite different from our own.
In the time of Aquinas, there existed child oblates, which were children given to the care of
monasteries for the sake of instruction and training in virtue. Aquinas, as a youngest child of
his family, was destined for religious life, and so his parents sent him to the famous Abbey of
Montecacino at the age of five. It was more or less the medieval version of boarding school,
and with the gift of Aquinas, the wisdom of the Church is a fruit of this movement.
These pseudo-boarding/monastic schools even had a similar tuition structure to the contemporary
versions. Families were expected to make large benefactions to the monastery for the care of the
child and the upkeep of the facilities. Though this article in the summa may not have as much
application today, it still offers some insights with respect to vocational discernment.
For one, Aquinas mentions that the possession of reason is essential for making a vow.
A person who is mentally insane is incapable of making a vow, and so is a child who does not yet
possess the use of reason. Church law today states that the age of reason is seven years old,
and it is only after that age in the Latin Church that a child is capable of receiving holy
communion. So we have laws governing the sacraments in relation to this. Aquinas comments in this
article that the age of reason is later corresponding to the age of puberty. For boys, he considers
the typical age to be fourteen, and for girls who are quicker to mature, says the age is twelve.
Yet, Aquinas also comments that nature being what it is, some children develop reason faster
and others later. So today, perhaps it's much later if delayed adolescence.
it prudence.
This moves one to profess religious vows.
It only makes sense for one to have the use of reason and possess a competent command
of it.
Right reason and action does not require the cultivation—sorry, right reason and action
requires the cultivation of the other virtues as well, which might not be present in the
adolescent.
There's nothing, however, preventing one from entering religious life while still young
in the world's eyes.
One who passes from adolescence into adulthood may have all the maturity needed to respond
to God's grace, leave behind the opportunities of the world, and explore religious life.
Some communities accept those without college education while others require a little more
experience prior to accepting the application.
So some can enter at 18, others at 22.
In the next article, Aquinas questions whether the command to honor mother and father extends
to vocational discernment.
As I alluded to earlier, his choice of the Dominicans was deeply protested by his parents.
Just as James and John left their nets and their father, so one called the "Follow
Christ" is freed from the obligations of secular life.
However, Aquinas cites one exception that is still present today.
If one's parent is not in a position to care for himself or herself as a case may be,
there is a duty according to the faith and the virtue of piety that the child care for
that parent.
Provided that the parent truly has resources or other siblings or children to take care
of him or her, the child called to religious life is under no obligation to remain in
the house.
In the reverse fashion, a parent who has an obligation to his or her children may not
forsake the responsibility of parenting to enter a religious life.
These matters pertain to the demands of charity which always remain the highest governing
principle.
It would be a "porant" for one to deny charity in order to enter the school of charity,
which is commonly known as a state of perfection.
In articles 7 and 8, Aquinas considers the possibility of moving from one state of life
to the other.
If one is a parish priest, it is possible to enter religious life.
So you see that in the example of John St. Giles, Aquinas states that unlike bishops, priests
are not under the same solemn and perpetual vow to care for souls.
And thus are able to renounce it to pursue their own sanctification and religious life.
In addition to priests moving from one state to the religious state, there is a question
of a friar becoming a monk or a monk becoming a friar.
Aquinas articulates that it is better for one to remain in the religious order he has set
out because focusing on the path and custom set better enables one to make progress and
virtue.
However, one may move legitimately for the sake of zeal or the pursuit of a higher order,
a contemplative order, or one dedicated to the sharing, the fruits of contemplation.
There is also the happy instance in which one's order has fallen into laxity or one has
noticed their own practice declining.
So in these instances, it is sometimes better for one to pursue a more suitable and observant
order, even if objectively speaking, it is less strict.
So typically, those dedicated to contemplative life with severe like austere acts of penance
are considered to be the stricter way and therefore the higher way.
So there's a sense you can move towards that.
So he's saying, if something is not right, there are instances in which one can move
from a contemplative order to an active order.
Article 9 asks whether one might induce or encourage another to enter a religious life.
It is not only not sinful, and you can see the mendicant controversy in the background
here that he's saying it's not sinful, but he says it's actually meritorious and noble.
By encouraging one to enter the state of perfection, one teaches, is able to teach one in the way
of justice and conversion, which is celebrated in Scripture.
By leading one to observe the evangelical councils, one invites another into the life
of penance and the school of charity.
Rounding out the articles concerning entrance into religious life, Aquinas asks whether it
is praiseworthy to enter religion without taking counsel of many and previously deliberating
for a long time discernment.
This is the key article of this talk.
Aquinas writes the following, "Long deliberation in the advice of many are required in great
matters of doubt as the philosopher Aristotle says in the ethics, while advice is unnecessary
and matters that are certain and fixed."
Now with regard to entering religion, three points may be considered.
First, the entrance itself into religion considered by itself.
And thus, it is certain that entrance into religion is a greater good.
And to doubt about this is to disparage Christ, who gave this counsel.
As Augustine says in his sermon, sorry, on his writing on the Lord's sermon on the
mount, "The East, that is Christ, calleth thee, and thou turnest to the West, namely mortal
infallible man."
So he's reprimanding here.
Notice how Aquinas does not refer to church teaching or javineanism or the writing of
Saint Jerome.
He says that denying that religious life is a greater good disparages Christ, who's given
this counsel to come follow me.
Aquinas continues with the second point.
The entrance into religion may be considered in relation to the strength of the person
who intends to enter.
And here again, there is no room for doubt about entrance to religion.
Since those who enter religion trust not to be able to stay by their own proper power,
but by the assistance of the divine power according to Isaiah, they that hope in the Lord shall
renew their strength, they shall take wings as eagles, they shall run and not be wary,
they shall walk and not faint.
Remember the teaching about creation and grace.
God is at work in our lives in ways that surpass our knowledge, and so there is no reason
to simply look to one's natural gifts or progress in virtue to justify or find certainty
to one's call.
The certainty is only found in the strength of God without whom we can do nothing.
Aquinas does, however, point to the reality of obstacles, clarifying that it happens in
individual's lives that bodily weakness, burden of debts and other matters do require one
to seek counsel of those who are trustworthy.
In my opinion, the contemporary setting for this advice is found in the application processes
in spiritual direction.
I know individuals with insurmountable debts that were cleared out, freeing them to enter
religious life.
I also know individuals who had issues with body and some with mental health that were
ultimately told that this obstacle would not allow them to enter religious life.
In these disappointing discoveries, the individual is required to trust in God's provenance,
knowing that he has permitted this for their good.
Though it may be painful, one is through this configured to the cross in such moments
and able to make progress toward the true end of Beatitude and Perfect Charity.
I know some that have pursued, found this out, and have married.
So Aquinas suggests taking counsel in those matters, he said, "It should not be long."
He then quotes St. Jerome who writes, "Hasen, I pray thee, cut off rather than loosen the
rope that holds the boat to the shore."
In the third matter, Aquinas switches from discussing the end of entering religious life
and he now considers the means.
So one who has grace and seeks holiness should not spend time discerning the greater good
of religious life, yet when one considers which form of religious life, one ought to take
counsel of those who will not stand in one's way, such as Aquinas' parents.
By this he means holy people who objectively see the good of religious life and will not
deter one because of fear, attachment, or mistrust of God's grace.
So with the final word, we might say that Aquinas would not support long periods of discernment.
You're rather encouraging.
is the individual who is alive and gracing
instead of the most expedient means towards be attitude,
which would be entrance of the state of perfection.
He frames his discussion with respect
to the primacy of God's grace and the flourishing
of human nature, which is found in the exercise of prudence.
This results in him suggesting that one act boldly,
perhaps even like St. Anthony of the Desert.
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
St. Anthony the Great responded boldly to a divine call in the Gospel, selling his inheritance and following Christ immediately, illustrating a direct, faith-filled discernment.
Modern vocation discernment often becomes paralyzed by long, uncertain deliberations, leading to a "discernment trap" that neglects God’s grace and the immediacy of spiritual response.
St. Thomas Aquinas distinguishes between *state of perfection* (a life ordered toward holiness through vows of poverty, chastity, and obedience) and being *perfect in charity*, emphasizing that one can be in a state of perfection without being fully perfect in love.
Aquinas teaches that all human life—marriage, consecrated life, or celibacy—is oriented toward the good of the soul, with consecrated life being more directly aligned with the pursuit of beatitude.
The virtue of prudence, not hesitation, guides one toward vocation—shaping actions toward a true end, such as entering religious life, with courageous and timely steps.
Aquinas affirms that entrance into religious life is a greater good, rooted in Christ’s call, and that long, uncertain discernment contradicts the grace and immediacy of God’s action.
He emphasizes that while counsel and support are helpful for practical obstacles (e.g., debt, health), they should not replace a bold, trusting response to God’s call.
The proper vocation path requires a balance of faith, reason, and divine grace, with the individual acting in prudence and trust, not fear or prolonged doubt.
Summary:
The podcast explores the contrast between the bold, immediate discernment of St. Anthony the Great and the modern tendency toward long, uncertain, self-centered discernment processes. Through the lens of St.
Thomas Aquinas, it argues that true vocation is not a prolonged internal debate but a response rooted in faith and prudence. Aquinas distinguishes between being in a “state of perfection” through vows and being “perfect in charity,” affirming that consecrated life is more directly oriented toward holiness, though marriage also leads to sanctity. He emphasizes that God’s grace is foundational to human existence and action, making all decisions—especially entering religious life—a matter of trust, not human certainty.
The virtue of prudence, not hesitation, guides one to act rightly and timely, as seen in St. Anthony’s swift response to Christ’s call. Aquinas rejects long deliberations, asserting that such processes distort the nature of God’s grace and the urgency of spiritual response.
While practical advice and counsel are valuable for addressing obstacles like debt or health, they should not replace a faithful, courageous step toward vocation. The ultimate call is not to over-analyze, but to live with confidence in God’s action, trusting that He will strengthen and guide those who follow Him boldly, as the saints did. This model offers a renewed vision of vocation—one grounded in divine action, prudence, and the courage to respond.
FAQs
St. Anthony sold his inheritance, provided for his sister, and followed Christ into the desert, responding boldly to the call in the Gospel.
The state of perfection is not about being perfect in charity, but about living a life ordered toward God by renouncing goods that hinder love of God, such as wealth and personal autonomy.
No, Aquinas sees both as valid paths to holiness. He argues that virginity and consecrated life are superior in orientation toward contemplative life and union with God.
Aquinas rejects long, uncertain discernment as unproductive and contrary to faith; he encourages bold, faith-filled decisions, like St. Anthony, who responded immediately to God’s call.
Yes, Aquinas teaches that entering religious life is a certain good and should not be delayed; however, counsel is needed for practical obstacles like debt or health issues.
Prudence involves right reason in action—making timely, wise decisions toward a good end, not just self-analyzing or hesitating. It guides one naturally toward a vocation, not away from it.
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