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we're gonna have a lot more of your wonderful contributions listen thank you very much for them and we're going to start with an email from a chap called Colin Dunn from New Hampshire one of our American cousins eh yeah um that'd be part of the world he uh I should say that he mentioned that Clint Dempsey banged a G the other day and one is first C yeah I saw that I was piece of silver when he's career I did yeah they're equivalent to the FA Cup was the open cup I believe so you were so open cup yeah yeah they um I also saw a video while we're on this subject of Clint Dempsey uh I'm freestying here by the way yeah in the running order much like for Clint Dempsey I'm freestying here um of him rapping at the launch of fee for 15 in in uh in the US and I'll just end that a little act that by saying I wanted it to be good yeah there you go I mean that shows how topsy turbidious show is we're already talking about the US we haven't even gone to the Premier League and finished with Europe yet yeah but it was an email from Colin Dunn and he's asking us what our favorite stadiums are hmm good one good question let's not let's not be boring let's not because obviously I my time castle my much yeah my much celebrated football career yeah started it on on the terraces of Fran Park as we all know but I won't talk about that one I think mine is probably the Olympic stadium in Berlin that's an excellent start yeah I think I think I've been uh we're going to go on going there again in November in the belief so which will be great hopefully is that kind of coliseum affair on the outside it is yeah you're not being there I have actually but it wasn't for a football match right okay oh really enough said okay and I wasn't there in the late 30s for a rally by the okay um and the reason I liked it is because um you just well first of all you treated really well it's a great it's a great walk up to the stadium yeah the atmosphere outside the stadium is very good which is also important um the beers are large and plentiful and you can drink them pitchside and then you get a uh when I was there you got a plastic stine yeah and each stine had a different hurt of your mind there's quite enormous hey yeah it was big yeah it was big and each stine had a different herterballin player on it that's good so you got oh I've got a standstill and whatever and um oh he left us last year yeah yeah no they changed him they out of date right and um and when I was there it was for a game against Wolfsburg and um it was only about half full actually but the noise was still pretty incredible yeah and we were right above the altruist behind um behind one of the girls and they never stopped singing you have the old guy with the megaphone the orchestra and the chance and stuff we just something they don't do enough on English football after so yeah so but that this is kind of an stadium experience does not just pure out stadium there's the structure experience yeah I like that it's fair question you also talk about the stuff I've just that's where you've taken the question yeah because Colin didn't uh didn't specify some of the questions will be interpreted I think they all will be yeah for the sake of everybody involved what she also um well you coming for the one that should you must have a couple more I'll tip in then yeah I mean ladies up I'm gonna take the South America as as we as we must I've been to um as it's nicknamed the chocolate box the the momentary the momentary the where the box adjunious play and I mean if we're talking in terms of infrastructure we we we low I mean genuinely Tarkar's or heart state it is better than that yeah you're talking about in terms of pure that's the only way but if we're talking about stadium experience all that kind of stuff that is something else it really it's a Nord stadium if you've ever seen a picture of it or seen a match yourselves very sure very uh it is it is very high indeed but it's not um it's the the attendance the capacity is not as big as you do you think because on one side in one side of the pitch you've got it all boxes yeah it's quite odd really I've seen that it's quite unique but the the atmosphere is absolutely incredible yeah just just just constant noise the fans behind one of the goals they I mean the whole thing's just moving the whole time it's just bouncy bouncy yeah um I nearly got pissed on they'd say only say they know I can say that yeah and that's from a high that's not someone trying to do it on my side of my leg yeah yeah they stupidly put the away I think I've said this before and remember they put the away fans above you know but in sure in in terms of sheer atmosphere that would be that be well out there up into the American R yeah of course that's got to get a bench even though it wasn't finished when I was there but again the part the atmosphere the whole thing being at the American R yeah you can't argue with that I remember that quite vividly we went to see a game in the Rio Cup which is a bit of a party anyway and you're saying like people serve at your drinks and all that kind of stuff it's it's not so organised there but I just remember this little we don't get served drinks at limpyx stadium you have to go and get that what you can drink in front of the game yeah you can't do it in well okay you kind of get served drinks at the American R in the sense that there's there's a guy selling who comes to you but every now and then this little guy with his little face I he was probably in his sort of 50s 60s with tiny little bloke with the with the sweetest face and the nicest little moustache and he would just suddenly appear in front of my mate and I smiling with his arms wide open which compelled us to buy all the stuff that you have going you're in the American R pretty much what you would say I think I was drunk on tampic how I think it was the orange juice if anyone's ever had that sugar field to the max but also I saw the other side of the stadium I saw a couple of guys dressed up as super here as there was a Batman I who was just running around the empty seats obviously which is possibly the best thing I've seen at the football match and mentioning for the new camp as well of course the for if you've never been at the new camp seriously go because the first time you go to that stadium it's something else yeah I agree it really is I mean when you when you're right on the top tier as we were yeah as I as we've been surrounded by people smoking weed yeah it's like it's like it's like watching the game of kickoff for those of you who have a certain age you remember that computer game much better though depending on who you're watching but yeah usually a bus by the side is much better yeah yeah absolutely so so there we go Colin we mentioned a few there we've probably got the points yeah that's because the other two haven't turned on that's it so so yeah we're gonna do a sort of fairly regular show is normal but dropping some of your wonderful questions and suggestions listeners think of yourself as the third and the fourth round if you could yeah we're not going to leave you right to the end this time well Dan Polidano's I'm going to start off with something that he's put he said one hour on Scottish football please that's ambitious the listeners have spoken to be fair they haven't voted to stay as part of the union should we should prepare them attention still yeah I think we should I think we should very much we're not gonna know are we do you know what Kenny Monroe asked me saying what way would Craigie Brune have voted in the referendum oh that's a lay that to you man well he said well Craig Brown I you know if you'd just spoke into him about that he would have talked up both sides yeah and then said but I think it'll be nothing nothing there you go it's good off to a good start yeah but yes it's always a full-back up from it is it's Craigie Brown well speaking of full-backed Alex Arnold Bryant said topic for the round but well cut 2002 special focus on Sven please that's what you do I love the way the listeners get a chance to choose the stuff they can we will talk about you're doing this but they choose the same stuff you're doing it it means we must be doing the same wrong it's like the stock homes syndrome isn't it yeah marvelous let's kick off with a Premier League we have to less the five-metre you know three yeah my giddy art and when you're thinking to yourself there's only two of us on the show wonder how many talking points will have thank you very much yeah thank you very much I was a detail I didn't think this would happen but about I would just start from the first game on Sunday obviously man city Chelsea's about to start I was thinking I don't know I'm up for this I don't think I can get up for this now because I was just buzzing off less to sit you man you know super Sunday very much I think we're gonna there you go because I think that we'll come on this in a minute I'm sure but I think the man city Chelsea game was a much better game than was given credit for because of what happened before yeah if that had just been stuck if that was the first game you'd be gonna ask a great game you know if that was a Monday night game you'd be really happy with that because the less the city you man you're not again was so good in a slightly different way you would argue yeah you almost didn't get the credit at the city game but there's two totally different games yeah and that's the beauty of football one is an absolute goalfest where there's mistakes galore there's some wonderful moments of quality city versus majesty city versus Chelsea it's very much a stalemate it's a tactic a much more of an obvious tactical and a fair going on there's plenty to enjoy but you know like I just say a different way totally yeah but I'm really pleased that the front three that well first of all really pleased a nodule person who is a hard man oh yeah can we just say he's never really and I haven't been the Premier League that long but I hope he starts to become more a part of the conversation on the whole hardest manager's debate which comes up every so often we'll reconvene on that because Pearson is a strong silent type yeah he is and and I like how he sits up in the stands yeah Reminds me of a man we often mention is big water. Yeah, water Smith again strong silent type sit up in the stands Yeah, go simione just because he has to There's nothing silent about that man Yeah, absolutely not But I'll be back down soon. So yes, I really like the way that Pearson played with three strikers Um against Manchester United because that's a break into doing of course Newgent can slide in there and help out in midfield Mm-hmm And a Joe can hold the ball up very well and Vardys it of course got lots of pace But those front three is such a dynamic front three That I think Leicester's might start to think Leicester might be a little bit better than people are given a credit for and they might because I'm not sure if it was on here on here that I said this at the start of the season Leicester start was so tough So tough well, we said that we were worried that they might only get a point from first five games Yeah, they up to seventh. They are they are they are they are in seventh. Yeah, they're incredible Yeah, they got they got eight points. I think already after a really tough start now How much is that galvanize you how much self-belief does that give the conference? I'll take it amazing and and and um And they're enjoying it they are and these aren't just one-nils or you know, they've got a Scrappy point that well, okay, they dog bit beat stoke one. Nils at the other week. Yeah, and and so on But beat scoring five goals in a game. Everyone's had a bloody good time Fans are enjoying it already conference will be sky high my goodness. Let's hope they don't do a hole No, you know under fill right don't want to get any pull it They get the Christmas yeah With one almighty hangover and it takes them about five months to clear it the whole city season was here They got the Christmas absolutely flying like a dog with two dicks can believe it like Last four five months of season they picked up like one win or one point or something We've taken their annual leave. Let's have a sing song Feel brown. Let's have a sing song. You can't remember your last win If you put the hard work in yeah, you don't have to after a while Yeah, it was the it was the football equivalent of when a sprinter in the Olympic one to meet a first round You want it. Yeah, you just like the slowest up for the end gets caught, but just about makes it Yeah, amazing. Anyway, yes, I let's that I thought that I mean of course you need to touch on the fact that I'm sure you agreed that that penalty decision was really changed in momentum of the game It did some people say, oh, but you know, it was good that Van Halden mentioned. Yes, it was because it The referee didn't cause a number of Manchester United players to make mistakes after that. Yeah, but it is true Those decisions no matter what people say they do make a difference to the game Manchester United actually played quite well in the first half and and everybody Watching I'm sure thought oh, you know off the back of the four-neil win against QPR and I wanted to others Are they back are they clicking? Yeah, they're getting in there stride. It was good to see you are not a measure Keep it away from home For anybody standards, but you saw foul cow when he left his man for dead when he hit the bar with that great effort Yeah, De Maria scoring a wonderful goal. Scoop exactly slip in a scoop. We can we can categorically Confirm because a lot of people have asked us about this. Yeah, I agree with you Marcus. I'm relieved that you A slip in a scoop. Yeah, totally yeah You know de Maria scored a great goal Rooney and him a Linking up there van Percy scored you suddenly think I'll here we go. Yeah, now now Manchester United a beginning to play now who knows? You know chaos theory come into it Well, never know if the referee hadn't have given a penalty there But he did and at three to you know the difference steps up yeah and and and and away we go and the game changes Manchester United starts to worry a little bit lester suddenly go flying forward It did change the game There's no two ways about that and it wasn't a penalty and it was a foul on rough. I know yeah You got to remember as a driver will happen in football. They will and as a striker a striker is always gonna do that if a striker doesn't do that He's not doing a job properly. He's got to take a chance You know you know better not a striker will always run around the back of a defender in case he misses ahead A striker will always go in for a challenge. Casey gets away with it because it look at Ian Wright's career nine times I tell you won't get away. Yeah, nine times that attend it will be a lost call But he changes the game then the referee has made it made a mistake. I agree with you made a mistake It probably was a penalty, but the foul beforehand. I think it was okay. The foul but but there's a soft one But I think it probably a foul beforehand Yeah, different. I'll definitely but he's made the referee make a decision as you say Well, it's a number of actions that have happened so there were a number of things to blame Of course the referee's got the ultimate discretion, but Vardy's made the challenge. Raffaill has known he's coming in and rather than barge him He's gone to take the foul assuming you'll get a foul most cases like I say Nine times that time's at 100 he gets that decision, but secondly Raffaill has not kept his head and defend properly He's brought him down however soft it is and and obviously the referee gave a penalty When Nuzin put that away and then can we ask our pants to make it? It was can be asked to go as long as he can be asked to It's really poor defending by anyone. It was like him that one decision Completely informed the rest of their play for the rest of the game. Yeah, it was it was incredible There's such a top-heavy side. It's unbelievable. I've never seen a team I can think of in the Premier League that the attack was such force with the players they've got and they will go on to school Logic also season you know, I'm sure of that but defense so poorly They've got no link between their attacking the defense and they've got no conference in their defense either No, and if you look at someone so I didn't think to hollow black it played that what badly? I thought he did okay of course he was sent off and you made him a single two but it's no environment for a player If that experience to be playing and Marcus Rocco was completely anonymous he was poor I thought I think you're not out of signing him because I think he's tough because he's got tattoos He's Argentinian. He's not tough. No, I think that I'm not signing pretty much on the on the basis of the semifinal But that rationale should have gone for Ron Vla Yeah, right. Well, I was talk of that. Yeah, but But you do Very few mentioned defense because in previous seasons black it would have come in and you did a third now No, it is to shepherd it for the game exactly and you've got a look at The classic of course they're managing night. They should be doing better They should have strengthened it the back I think they probably tried to and they couldn't get the players they wanted So that's what's happened now the stuck with the players they've got but if you look at tie a black it It's easy to get on his back, but he's coming in it not only in a really difficult time for you night in general But he's got no real experience around him of any no, I mean and all eyes are on man's you know As they always are he's also playing against a rapido Extraiker which is what no one wants. Yeah, it doesn't matter level. It doesn't matter how old or how much a player is you can't Ledges like for pace like that and if someone's sprinting at you they could be an on league player which he calls Not that long. Yeah, certainly maybe not non league football. Whatever it was I forget And he's absolutely skinned in but You know for Valdi's goal when he made it for three is Danny Murphy said on matter the day I think it was it went really was nearly back there trying to sort it out and you can see ruinies frustration This is the problem with runny other than I've talked in the past about how the being the captain If you know it may may signal a Resurgence in you know and runny's career But he's still in danger of falling with that trap of trying to do it on himself You see him after one of the goals he was going crazy. It's having to go at everyone's stuff Of course that as you roll it in part as a captain But it's a fine line between trying to do it all yourself and digging everyone out and when you've actually got a got to step up And then be encouraging and give constructive criticism united I think they're at home to West Ham at the weekend Which is it goes for us and it is a must win for them I mean they've really got to start because that's gonna affect their confidence badly and I can't they just cannot stop continuing goals Go on sorry. I just find it difficult to defend as a unit as to sort of talk to each other and do what they should be doing as a defensive unit Because when you play in that position you're not just an individual I'm gonna talk a bit more about individuals and footwear in a minute because someone's email us about it But you're part of a unit you're part of a team you're almost part of a team within a team Yeah, and you've got to communicate with you I'm sure I do on the training ground stuff, but you can't let it all go to pieces as soon as a reference as it goes against you Or you don't have a great start or it's the same with Liverpool which we'll talk about a bit You need to make the scenes up with us a unit and then note that at all chiefly because I've got no experience. I got players who I'd write good enough. I experienced enough right used to the league and that's a terrible combination Yeah, and I wonder though as well that Is Dehaya the type of keeper to bark instructions to that backline and and help out there You know because he's not doing that so much I don't know if he's or not, but he doesn't have the aura of some that does if you've got a back three or a back four They're a little bit in and out Rocco's just just signed for them recently. Who's taking responsibility? Which is which is why actually you think to yourself? Maybe they should have I forget the ins and outs. I think he was he was he was going quite a bit before anyway But why it never been an idea of kept reaffirming down on for another year Well, just third man seems to maintain that he was essentially forced out. Yeah, which which seems strange because His ability obviously he's you know, it's a bit older now And his pace maybe isn't isn't quite so much but he experienced against the team like less than the experience and calm head And someone who's gonna organize it a bit more. He's not been great for keeping the eye on But even if you know Phil Joong and Chris Smallen people perhaps been surprised that they haven't They haven't learned as quickly and developed as quickly as they may have hoped you could you could argue there But Johnny Evans as well as another one but again Johnny Evans is playing in partnerships with Vidditch and third and yeah, and you can say well come on step up But he just it all seems so sudden, you know, and undermoves it was obviously pretty not disastrous But it wasn't great. So yeah, I think they'll probably rule letting Vidditch and third man go at the same time That guy's what I'm saying. Yeah, and just just on this on this thing We've touched on here Oscar when and John Proven of both E-Mod in or coming through Facebook actually saying Oscar says why do you think there have been so many games with bigger crazy scores over the last few seasons? Compared to those of you're especially involving the big things playing each other Do you think this is simply due to the decline in the number of top-class defenders are more indicative of an underlying Shift in managerial philosophy and John Proven says why is that there are loads of brilliant four players in today's game and relatively decent defense There are relatively few decent defensive players. I'll sort of bracket them up to get there because I think that's a similar similar Similar questions really. I think it's actually why are big schools back. Yeah indeed as Jim would say, fully for big scores. - I find it really interesting that now, we are in my mind moving towards a culture of the individual in football. So whether that is through the increased attention on computer games, the chance for you to become the guy who beats everyone's scores and you play an individual character on a computer game, or whether it's an increase in attention on the PFA awards, stuff like that. It seems to me that individualism in a site, as a whole, is much more focused upon, which means that you get a lot of people who grow up now, like I said to you before, about Rahim Sterling and Daniel Sterling, those sort of players, they seem to me like players who've grown up playing FIFA, play those sort of games. And in many ways it benefits them because they try skills, they wouldn't try before, they take influence more over the world, not just in the Premier League, where they hoot fit around, or in English football, where they hoot fit around. But it means that, actually, if you become a defender, you're not going to get all the politics, you're not going to get the highlights and the headlines. And so maybe people don't want to be defenders as much as they used to. And so you see a lot more attacking players available, because it's not really that easy to come up with a list of, say, 15 or 20 amazing top quality defenders. But the amount of attacking players are around. It's incredible compared to that, don't you think? - Yeah, no, absolutely. I think, and going on from your talk about individuality and the increased pressure and scrutiny and media eye on that, I mean, messy and renown though. There's so much to talk about, it's always messy if you're around, it's always about who's the best player, isn't it? - But messy, look at the players in that team. You know, that classic, they're already a classic side. It was only a few years ago. And renown though in a team full of world beaters as well, yet it's build as one individual against the other. I think that might there be an argument that, if you look at defenders as well, Europe, or Northern Europe, Britain perhaps, more specifically, is woken up to the attacking fullback idea. And so, I mean, fullbacks obviously in South America was much more attacking anyway. But the fullback, certainly, I remember Jack Charlton said in the 1990, well, a couple of 94, certainly, around that time that the fullback was the most important area on the pitch, because they are the ones who had the space in front of them. So perhaps you've had new ideas of fullbacks coming through as being more attacking. So therefore, you've only got two defenders left on the pitch, really, that guys who are out and out the same. - So maybe there's just less of them. - But maybe just, I mean, it could just be that's the way things have gone. It's an unexplainable one. You could argue, why do we not have so many top-class goalkeepers as well at the moment, which may be an argument to more goals, perhaps, more attacking philosophies with coaches. I mean, the World Cup recently was extraordinary. Compared to the previous World Cup, but the previous World Cup 2010 coaches were far more cautious. - But if you take it into the World Cup, and you have to look at whether, because managers get less time with the players for a World Cup, do they think, well, we won't focus as much on that. We'll focus more on scoring. Or do you think we'll focus more on keeping it tight? - Well, in 2010, it was definitely keeping tight, wasn't it? The 4-2-3-1 was, I mean, it's information that's very, very prevalent now. But in 2010, it was a very cautious 4-2-3-1, whereas in World Cup, maybe the fact it was in Brazil, everyone's been on the cocktail, in our homologues, let's go for it. - Spirit of Ronaldo, yeah. (laughing) - I mean, who knows really? I think it's more the other culture of individuals in person. - Yeah, I think you're onto something there. There is a definite lack of defenders, which was the point I made the other week about David Louise, which is why he went for so much. - Yeah. - You know, make what you will about that. But defenders really are a premium at the moment. And it's quite extraordinary to see. I mean, if you just take the English national team, what, you know, I'm sure most English supporters wouldn't do for a top-top-class centre back. I'd rather, to be perfectly honest with you, I'd rather, as your own bowettang, for who's being English, then I don't know, someone like Ibrahimovic or something like that, 'cause I think England need a centre back. You know, Cale's decently set, very good Chelsea career, but you compare that to England five to 10 years. - Well, we're defending well, yeah. - We actually did, well, there's your 2002 reference under Olds Fenigans. You know, he actually organized the backline very well. But he had Ferdinand, you know, Karaku can get in a team. But King didn't really much get in a team. Woodgate was obviously injured a lot, but he's been like this. - But do you not think that everywhere you look in football coverage these days, wherever it be through, look at advertising campaigns, they're always certain star players, aren't they? - Yeah, true. - There's always, look at computer games, a lot of talk about which player's gonna be on the front of which version of which game? - Yeah. - There's always talk about who's the best player in the world. - Yeah. - There's always talk about who's gonna win the PFI award. - Yeah. - I mean, how often compared to other. - When statistics now, when we win the age of statistics? - Yeah, the ass is, the assists and the goals. - That's what I've done man. - But how often have you heard the conversation, who's the best team in the world? No, when near as much as you've heard, who's the best player in the world. So therefore, attacking players are much more good towards that. You rarely get, I mean, you rarely get a defender being credited and praised as one of the best players in the world, just for being a defender. I mean, you can a very one-the-world player when he did to Lee 1 in 2006. It doesn't happen that often. - That was very rare. But I think also, I mean, might there be, you know, where the football has normally come from, and normally working class backgrounds in this country anyway. I'd have thought that would probably be similar in the world. If you look at the cultures of inner city football, it's very skills-based, as you say. I mean, some of the players, you and I have played against the five as our pitchers around London, they have been top draw. They're kind of skills that I would shame some professional footballers. How do you beat them? You get you organized. You're not the ball around. They get frustrated very quickly. Those types of players. And actually, so if players who are the natural picking grounds for where football has come from, are really focused on that kind of individuality. They've got good pace, they've got good skill, they've got good technique, they can shoot well, all that kind of stuff. That lends itself to an attacking player. Doesn't lend itself to a defender. - And also, the best player is always going to attack in position. So what happens is, in this country at least, if you're a good player for your team at age group, then you play in the attacking position. Then the slowly worst players generally move back and back and back. And that's why you probably have much more standout players in attacking positions as well. But that's more of a general point. That's not a train. I think that's always been the case in this country. - Sure. - Well, yeah, it's an interesting one. I mean, long make, continue though. We're getting the big scores. Hopefully it'll be still there. - Defending is dead. It is dead. No one does it. No one bothers. - John Terry does. - Yeah, well, that's true. - Not for much longer. - When he's gone, then the floodgates will really be good. - Speaking of John Terry. - Yeah, indeed. Well, Manchester City won Chelsea won Super Frankie Lampar. - So I love it. - It's great, wasn't it? - A lot of people have said this, but like, - Ridlin' the start. - A lot of people have been annoyed with commentators and you couldn't have scripted it. You could. - You could have easily scripted it. - It's the easiest thing to script in the world. - You couldn't have scripted it two years ago. But when he went to Manchester City, you would definitely script it. - I think people have got, you couldn't script it, mixed up with, and it follows the scripts. (laughing) - Because there are several things in that game you couldn't script, of which I won't be forgotten into, but you're just limited by your own imagination. - But you can script that. - Yeah, if Gary Linnaker suddenly went into management, chances are he'd be given the Leicester City job somewhere down the line. But if he got given that job, I've no doubt he's not interested in management. - I don't do an idea about it, are you? Are you obviously doing it all right? - No, well, you know, but you get what I'm saying and this is what I'm saying. - I'm just beating it up five times, right? (laughing) You're unsettling him. - And if Linnaker got the Leicester City job, people were like, oh, you couldn't script it. - Yeah. - That's the one place he would definitely know. - Another example. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Exactly. - Oh, dear. Pete Dalton and Jim were in the studio the next week at the Rumble. You couldn't script it. There's maybe more of a, anyway, we'll leave that there. Yeah, I actually thought what Joseph Marini has said about him after. Well, it was quite funny. He said, when he decided to go to a direct competitor to Chelsea, then the love story's over. He did a professional job people. Never forget what Chelsea people do. It happened to me when I was a manager of inter, 'cause he was received very formally when he came back to Chelsea. It was Joseph Marini in the inter, he said, it's Chelsea's culture and beauty. And to be fair to those Chelsea fans, they very much applauded him when he came on the pitch and after the game as well. I mean, it would be a bit of a disgrace if they didn't do that. - I'd like to have seen him do this fair. - I'd like to have seen him do the BT. - What, a lampard in front of the other boy, 'cause it was up the other end. - Yeah, I could have done it in the by-law, yeah. That would have been good. Frank, what are you doing? - Start kissing the badge. - Yeah, we were, yeah. - You beat it as chess, shout out to Frankie Lampard, Frankie Lampard. - But as for the game itself, I thought it was a really great game for different reasons to the United game, as we've already said. I thought, what, with that small team playing? - I know, I know. - I know. - Pellegrini really, really needs to grasp the concept, right? If people go away to the Eddie had, they know they're gonna be, there's gonna be an onslaught of very attacking and very good attacking players coming at them. Do not be surprised if you've got a backline with John Terry at the heart of it, if they're gonna play a little bit deeper. Like they did last season, where they won one nil and they defend it. - Well, like stoked it. - There's a lot, he really needs to understand. There's a lot of ways to win a football match. - Yeah. - You can't complain about that because, I learned to break them down then. - Yeah, I think, I don't think Chelsea were too defensive. - No, I think, compared to last season, they weren't too bad Chelsea. - But the game last season where they won one nil was a brilliant game as well. - Yes. - I love Marino in those games, actually. Yeah, K, he doesn't play the tiki-taker style. But if everybody did that, a bit boring. - Yeah, fair enough. - How good was Mangalore get, by the way? - Yeah, such a good, - That's a good, that's why Mangalore was 32 million. - Yeah. - He three French caps, 32 million pounds. There you go, defenders are a brilliant one. - Yeah, that's true. Those two players just showed, he had a human company, I mean, showed how to play against Dehokoster. You write up and put against him. Don't give him a second. Of course he had that chance for a hit the post, but he's a top quality player. He's always gonna get a chance for himself, probably, isn't he? Through 90 minutes. - Yeah. - That's what striker would like. - He's there to be wound off. - But they, oh yeah, it's absolutely. - You're right, and they did exactly the right thing. Of course, Abba, he got better. - He got better. - He's a tablet of paid for it with his position on the field of course, but they did the right thing. And I actually thought City would worthy of a goal. 'Cause they started off really well, didn't they? And they're unlucky not to score early on. And then when they got the end, Milner was very good as well. - Milner was great, and I'm so pleased Milner putting a shift like that. - See, there you go, it's the language. He put in a shift. Milner didn't put in a shift. He played really well and had a lot of flare-pays. - But he's always gonna get accused of being. - No, well I've just done it myself. It's like that Twitter account, boring James Milner. - Yeah. - And like a rubbish. It's harsh. I think he's an excellent player. He's been a bit unfortunate at England level. Because of the, you could argue, it's the ineptitude of other players in the squad that he's had to compensate. That he's not been able to go and spread those majestic wings of his. But he, the set up for a Lampard, it's a great ball over by Silver, I think. Great run by Milner. - That's why Marie doesn't like Shaila, isn't it? That's why he doesn't start Shaila. Is that right? - Well, I suppose yeah, 'cause he uses Shaila as basically the hipsters would say, a false nine. - Shaila's got this concentration problem where he just keeps getting caught out. - Shaila's all about attack attack attack. - Yeah, absolutely right, yeah. - And so they got caught out because he lost his man. And Nipton, and Lampard was obviously not being picked up either. It shows he worked really hard to get to the position area. And of course, those city would down to 10 men. But they didn't pick Lampard up. But if any team knows what to do. - You think, well. - He's only 36. - Yeah. - He won't make a classic Lampard run and get on the end of. It wasn't it weird to see Lampard beating John Terry to a ball. - Did you just, and slotting in? - Did you see what Terry said to Lampard in the game after the game? - Well, just sugar's half. - And he looked like he, when he went to Shaila's house, looked like he said, "I fucking knew it." (laughing) - And I thought it was quite fun. - It was fair enough, I think. - I enjoyed it because it was racist. (laughing) - Well, it couldn't have been. - No, he's, I'm sure he would have found the way if he needed to. But that was a good game. And there's also really important that city didn't lose that game, wasn't it? They were already a bit off the pace. And they wanna go sort of more than a few points behind them, they have five points off them now. - But it's a vital goal, because when you're down a ten, you're one kneel down and one man down against the team that are beginning to run away with it. You cannot lose that game. And the man Frank Lampard's gone in there and he scored. I mean, it was a classic Lampard goal, drifting into the box fairly late, getting on the end of it. And he had a chance, didn't need to put the other one away. - Yeah, he was after the woods. He sort of looked a bit shell shocked and he was a bit like, yeah. - It would have been, it would have been, I mean, of course, he's a professional. He's better to do a job. So next phase of his career now. But I don't think you'd be really very empathetic as a human being if he didn't realize it, which must be quite odd for him. - Yeah. But again, he didn't apologize. - No. - Because he meant to do it. That's what I'm saying, that celebration there, if you're gonna not celebrate, just be a bit subdued. - He wasn't stopping everyone else celebrating. - He was like, yeah, very, very, I mean, I did look at that and I just thought, if only he was five years younger, to see that even in that England squad, you don't mean to get an all. Because actually, to see him playing, I don't want anybody to point at scrims. I want my talking about, sorry, everybody. - He's making all England conversation a pretty pointless. - Yeah, I was gonna say, he's had over what? How many caps and I'm like, but if we only had another five years out, I'm sorry, ridiculous. - When are we talking about Liverpool next? - We could talk about Liverpool next. Let's do, do you think, do you think that was a, let's say it was ascending off, isn't it? - Yeah. - The commentators were talking about saying it was harsh. I understand Neville and Caragher saying they'd like to have seen the game fly a bit more. And I agree the referee did still that a bit early with his cards, but he got further to law. He can't just let everything go because it's a big game. - That's it. - I don't really subscribe to the idea that you have to referee these games differently, person. I mean, I think I defended how it would in the World Cup final in 2010. So what do you want? What do you want from him? He's there to do a job. - That's right. - The players are doing, to push in their luck, then he's got to stamp it out. - Well, you've got two very much opposing sides. You can't please, you can't please all the people all the time. - And they're sitting very obviously targeted, Deo Costa and thought that was the way to get at him and get about him and they did that. And you know, fair enough, I was able to have a little paid for it, but it sort of worked. We didn't do a cost of it. We really had one chance we hit the post I think. Here the head, right at the keeper, but I've learned that. - Yeah. - I thought it was quite nice seeing the sky blue versus the royal blue. - I found it odd. - But the chills of your way, it's white. - It is, yeah. - So that would probably more likely? - Yeah, I think so. You've got a change kept, haven't they? - They're at home. - Yeah, I suppose so. - Yeah, and just the two of us, we can't possibly tackle that. - No, no. - Before we go to Liverpool, this is the thing, it was such a great weekend. I mean, we could talk about Southampton, but they've not made the cut this, this would have to have a great result and a great start. But I mean, the little mentioned to West Brom. - Yes. - I mean, Patrick, Jay Green said, "Wire spurs so spursy." - They're very poor. They were very poor. - You know what he means as well, don't you? - Yeah. - I mean, he's tempting to chuck in the old aisle post Europe come down thing, but I think they're my 10 changes spurs. - Yeah, they did, not really. - Yeah, not really a huge amount of cross-sover there. - They look better organized than spurs. - Yeah. - They cause them problems consistently going forward. Berahino look lively as always. And West Brom looked good at the back with Lescot, didn't he? - Yeah, it was those debut. I think it might, right? - Yeah. - He's a good sign for them. - You forget about Lescot, don't you? - I think the West Brom might struggle this season still, though. - Yeah, I think they might well do, but a fabulous result anyway. So come on then, Westam, three Liverpool won. There was talk on matter of the day, two of San Aladay's trying to play a different way with Westam this season. Obviously Westam and Big Sam were absolutely given, well, Big Sam was given Peltas last season for playing in a sort of boring way, if you like. And we kind of defended him and said, well, I mean, low as well as the big Sam's, but you sort of think, if he's managing your side, you'll stay in the division now, is that good enough? - Yeah. - Do you want to kick on? Do you want to sort of take the gamble? I mean, we've got a question from where are we now? Josh Auro, and he says, is being a football fan about being entertained? There's cases of long-worn misery at Westam and Mansfield town. He's not a big word for the Mansfield stuff. - I think, what do you think of the Westam? - Well, I try to mix it up. - To answer his question, I think that it depends on your outlook. I mean, I personally go to football games to be entertained. It's not, I love football and I like watching it and stuff, but it's not the build-in of my life if my team get beat. I want us to put a performance together and entertain me for it for afternoons. It's a past time, isn't it? But some people really want to win. It means everything to them when their team wins. And I understand that as a point of view as well. But on the big Sam thing, I mean, he's starting to play a much more progressive star this season. Often they've strengthened really well in the summer. And their silence have been great. And actually, going into this game, I've previously just been going for Betfair where I work. And I said that I think Westam had been unlucky. And I genuinely thought going into that game, they've been unlucky. They've been a bit sloppy. They lost their home's asperers, of course. I think this is the first game at home, they won this season. Good world wide to pal. Yeah, I did. And don't mean to get on the back of Liverpool here, but they had this coming. They had this coming. The bottom line is with Liverpool. I've said every week and I'll probably do so, apologies. They have to play with tempo. They don't play with tempo and move the ball quick and use the players that they've got in the style that Roger's clearly prefers to play in. They won't get any success. That's one point. They didn't do that against Westam. They've got a court card. They've got a conceded far too early. Obviously, you never want to concede, but they conceded way early and they were in a light, of course. Secondly, if you're going to lose that many goals in your team through Suarez, going and storage, being injured, you've got to sort out your defensive problems. Yeah. Because they've got worse at the back. Yeah. I'm telling you, they've got worse at the back this season. Three defeats and five games in the league so far. They're unconvincing win in the Champions League against poor opposition at home. You do think to yourself, Blimey, they're not going to hit the heights of last season. That's right. That's not going to happen. I think there's a, I mean, whether people have been it or not, I think there's certainly a feeling I can detect that last season was their chance to do something really good, and they didn't make it happen for one reason or another. Not completely. Their fault, man, sitting here with a good team, but that was the chance they had there. It was almost like a perfect storm of circumstances. Didn't happen. Fine. That's how it goes. But I wonder whether, I'm not sure. I'll be interested in how many Liverpool fans agree with me here. I wonder if Brendan Rogers just got a take a step back and go back to basics a little bit. I think he's trying a little bit too hard with the teams he's picking. I mean, he rested sterling last week and that didn't go well. In the Champions League. No, no, because he played him in the Champions League. He didn't play him in the Reacon. Sorry, can I? He bought his scored against West Ham. Oh, you mean, sorry. He played around with that. I lost everything, didn't I? Remember, he with me now? Sorry. And the weekend just gone. He plays his formation. He plays Barini out front. He was not able to look in. So he plays Barini out front with, with, with, with, by the telly. And for me, that's a tailor made game for Lambert. That's what you've signed Lambert for. Go to West Ham away. He's for get Lambert. Play Lambert out front, play three behind. And, and not only is he not, in my view, playing the right, right team, he changed it around after 20 minutes. Yeah, he tried too hard. Go back to basics. Drill your team, properly at the back. I don't know if I have to get a, they don't, they don't, they don't need to get enough defensive coaching or something because they're much worse at the back from what I've seen this season. They were last season. It was interesting. Aga came out and said, you know, Rogers is a great coach and all that, but they had, they had big differences. And he kind of left under us a little bit of a cloud. And you think, well, someone like Aga with a bit of experience, actually, was, was that a bit of a loss? Somebody like that. I got an email, I got a little message here from Josh Steer, which I'll send to your way, Marcus. He's Rogers a successful manager in the transfer market. Yeah. I, I, I, I just, I'm trying to think the players he's selling. I mean, the full back Marena, I think he brought it in, seems to have been all right, basically. I think he's done okay. Yeah, I think he's done a right. He's been one of the better players at the back from that. Tellerley, you've got to say, is an interesting one. I think he has, I think he struggles to sign defensive players. Yeah, I was, well, they were trying to get, was it Lovron? They have got Lovron. Sorry, not Lovron, Schneidlin. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Schneidlin would have been perhaps a good addition. In the midfield. But I mean, Lovron on paper is a good, I mean, you've got to say that it is perhaps early days as well. But the one thing I'm slightly concerned about is when he said, I don't want to make, I want to make sure Sterling doesn't burn out so I'll rest him. Sterling will burn out because he seems to be the only one who's going to grab a game by the scruff of the neck in the team at the moment. I mean, he took his goal superbly well. There are a lot of questions. - The other way to reduce his responsibilities, and that would be to strengthen the side around you. - Well, that's the point I'm making, yeah. But I mean, what about West Ham? I mean, the diamond in midfield seems quite fashionable at the moment, that's what they were doing, and downing was at the top downing seems to be flourishing. - He really enjoyed that third golden thing. He really enjoyed that. When he played that free boy, he really loved that. - Yeah. - I like to see that. I like to see, do you know what? To me, that celebration said, I went to Liverpool, he didn't work out for me, and now I want to prove to them that I'm good enough. And he really enjoyed that. And I wouldn't begrudge him at all. - That's what I was talking about. - Well, I wouldn't begrudge him at all. - No, of course, that's part of the game. - But is he one of those players? Is there a shift now in thinking and perhaps the diamond again lends itself to that? That talented players who can dribble with the ball and have a little bit of pace and a little bit of technique, 'cause down he has got good attributes, you know, to his player. Unfortunately, downing was one of those guys who was given far too much responsibility. And was put in England's size when perhaps he shouldn't have been. So bring those players inside. You know, a great example was Danny Murphy. I think it's weird, isn't it? When you think about Danny Murphy's earlier career, and it spurs and maybe even Charlton as well, if my memory serves me correctly, it's farmed out on the wing. Full of them, put it right in the center of the park. And that's where he's dictating the play. And Sterling has obviously been put in the center now. And downing as well, just a few examples, you know. - So yes, I think Weston has done okay. I think it's gonna be a real conundrum for them when, 'cause the commentators you in the Liverpool game showed Kevin Noren in the stand and said, "Oh, and it's only gonna get better for them when Noren and Carol come back." And he's like, "Marsdening, what's wrong with that?" So it might be benefiting from not having those guys. - Well, having a more cultured player like Downing in there instead of Noren, Noren's a very effective player. - But he's not very subtle. - No. - And Carol, the problem with the Carol thing is the politics demands that he has to play, 'cause he costs so much money to. He's your man you want to bring in from the bench, isn't he? - That's right. - I don't really think, where the way Weston were playing at the moment, they're doing okay. They've made some good signings, they've improved their team. Often at Cresswell, that's a great player, a lot of foolback. And Carol, you want to introduce him for Psycho with different. Unfortunately, the way he plays, he might be destined to have his career been a bit like that. Just being introduced from the bench, unfortunately. - Like that bloke we played for the England field hockey team. - Yes, you know, just come off of that. - Just come off with the penalty corner for me. So he's from around my neck at the world. - That's not who you mean, yeah. - Lucky I do remember that, 'cause I'm very archsick this time. It was just a two of those on the show. Normally you've got a bit of a safety net. It's somewhere that we're remembering. We've got to have a quick mention to Crystal Palace beating Everton three to away. I love Walnut at the end of the game. And she went, oh, my fabulous game, weren't it? Great stuff to great end to end stuff. - Yeah it was. - So I did, yeah I never- - Everton lost that game at home to post last season. - They did, yeah. - By the same margin, was it? - Well, Everton had a bad one. - He did in the, yeah. - Everton and Liverpool have got to get used to playing European football. Didn't have it last season. Everton really have to sort it out. - Everton conceded 13 goals in five games. - It's not one of the great stuff for them though. - They're, well they scored, they're big enough. It's not big enough to play in the Europa as well. No, Martin is the sort of guy who wanna take it seriously. - That's right. - And it might be to the detriment of their form. I thought they'd be good this season. They still might be. But I don't think they're based on that palace game. It doesn't know, they've adjusted so far very well to European football. - Indeed. - So I've had a good win against Walsburg. That's what pretty hard for it. - Yeah, absolutely. And Aston Villa, an Arsenal big game at the top of the league or pro-Copri league. Aurs and well bet, combining well. Nice to see. - It was nice to see. - That's what happens when you put aurs on his favourite position perhaps. - It sort of six minutes of madness or something for further, wasn't it? - Three minutes was it. - I love Wellbeck. I think he looks like a thoroughly good judge. - Very likeable guy, yeah. - And a took his goal very well. An assist as well. - Good for him to get off the mark for sure. - Often running. Often running. So good to see those two to link it up as well. And just to finish some Premier League chair. Newcastle 2, Hal 2. Our par juice days numbered. Or as he got a job for life. - Well, there were several rumours. - People said he saved his bank. - I'm not sure. - I'm not gonna want that for now. - A couple of tweets said that a par juice ignored the medical advice to play season. I found it was told not to play him. And obviously it's come. It's a gamble that's paid off for him. But I've had loads of rumours about par juice. I can't talk about this. I'd love to be able to. But yeah, it looks like he's still there for now. Fighting. Fighting. - Obviously it's not, I mean, look, you know, we all know our opinions on par juice. It's obviously not easy for him when he's, you know, imagine in that sort of atmosphere. It's not gonna help with him. Now of course I understand Newcastle fans frustration. And their end game is to get rid of him, isn't it? - Yeah. - So I understand what they're doing now. I mean, instead of decision. But of course it's not an easy environment for the players or the manager. - No, absolutely not. - At least been half of it in school. (laughing) - Let's go to the championship. - Yes, let's go to the championship. - Full of nil, blackburn one, Jordan Rhodes again. - Did McGat go before after this game? - He was before. - Where you go, see? (laughing) They only lost one nil. - Yeah. (laughing) - Oh my goodness Felix McGat is lifting the lid. - Yeah, you love it. - On your favorite German manager. Well, he's responded to comments 'cause Danny Murphy confirmed on match of the day too that apparently McGat said to bread a handle and that he should soak a lump of cheese. Forget it with type of cheese. I don't know whether it matters. Clearly it doesn't. Soak a lump of cheese in alcohol and put it on the injured part of the body. And Murphy said that that is haggling confirmed that that's what happened there. But McGat said, I don't feel remorse towards anybody. He said, "I don't mean to sound big-headed but I'm still convinced that German qualities could do English football a lot of good." - How can you ever remorse with anyone? - No, that's not German qualities. - No. - That's just mental behavior. - German quality is winning. - Yeah. But could I just pick up on what McGat said there? I don't feel any remorse or any grievance with anyone or whatever it is. You shouldn't do. You've come in. - Right, let me just pick up on the crap out of a load of you team players. - Let's just go for the fact. You've come to English football in the Premier League for a King's Branson, I presume. You've bloodied in quotes in a load of you team players. These conferences will probably never be the same again. - Bloodied being the word. - Yeah, you've got them relegated and now they're bottom of the championship with one point from eight games. All right, I won't hold it against you for second, mate. Well, good. You know what you shouldn't because it's your fault. The least you can do is apologize. - It's sensational, isn't it? - He's absolutely extraordinary. - There were stories coming out. You very well have heard them of two youth team players turning up a little bit late for training and McGat finding them so heavily that some of the senior players mainly scored Parker. So he went to him and said, "This is just ridiculous. You can't treat them like that." And Parker ended up paying the fines. - They should have been on time. - No, they should have been on time, but they're saying the level of punishment was ridiculous. And also there were stories that McGat would ask people into his office. They'd walk in and he would just sit there eyeball and then for two or three minutes, not saying a word. - He's not really intimidating looking further, isn't he? - No, he isn't. I heard the room out of them. It's true. - You think like, is he forgotten how to speak? - Yeah. - More likely. - I heard the room at one of his jermies clubs. I don't know if it's true, but like, he would have, at the back of the training ground, I forget his club. It's a massive, I want to say that it's like a lower league level something, but I don't really know all of the teams he's managed. Of course he's made from the top flight, but it, no, him, it may have been in the top flight. - Yeah, there was a massive three-tiered hill at the back of the training ground. And towards the end of the training session, or however many hours they trained for, probably about eight, he would make them run up and down the hill, up the three-tier hill until they said stop. Essentially. And of course him being finished McGat got dark. - That was good at saying. - So all the players were like, "Oh, good, we haven't got to do it anymore." 'Cause he went where to see if we've got the top or not. To see which apparently McGat was like, "No, no, no, you have to bring me back a leaf from the tree at the top." - Oh my goodness. - To prove that you've done it. I just said one person that they got 50 leaves. - Oh, yeah, yeah. - It's your go. - Yeah, oh my goodness. - 'Cause he's always like that. He prides that more importantly than the actual game. Well, clearly he does because they can't buy a win. - Well, he kicks the crap out of them and gets them to top. Oddly enough though, his record fairly recently, I mean, he's managed by and Munich. - He won the double-double by and Munich. - He, there was definitely a double on the top. - I think he won the league and come in, no, five, no, six, I think. - Yeah, well, there was certainly at least one double in there, definitely. So he won the two Bundesliga because of Bayern Munich. You might think to yourself, "Well, you know, it's Bayern, he should be winning the league." Still, it's a hell of an achievement. But he won the league in 2000 and I'm with Walsburg. - I remember that, yeah. - Was that not with Jacka and Grafita at front? - That rings a bell. - Yeah, yeah. - That is remarkable. So the guy clearly has some kind of pedigree. - I think it's a case of similar with Capello, who we all responded. - Right, there you go. - The game is just left and behind a little bit of thing. - That's not that long ago. - No, it's not. Capello's achievements and his best achievements were the century previews. - Last century, yeah, exactly. - But what about a little note Wers mentioned in for Jordan Rhodes, you scored again? - Yeah, Jordan Rhodes, yeah. But full of fans, I mean, we much talk about who should take over apparently and Luke Moore, you're having this. Danny Murphy's expressed an interest in the job. - Player manager Danny Murphy. - I haven't even near to link him. (laughing) - That would not be something. - Right. - They'll be showing for Matt to the day 'cause he's one of me favorite opponents. - What do you mind if I combine the two? - Let's hope so. - Gus Poehler, he got fired live on Matt to the day, didn't he? - Do you remember that? - What, the moment gets appointed? - Yeah, let's just say it out. - Do you know that you've got the full of them job? - Oh, brilliant. (laughing) - You still got a finish to shift here. - Before I forget, can I just say that if Jordan Rhodes could add goals to this game, he'd be a really good player. (laughing) - He gets a few, doesn't he? - 140 goals in his last five seasons. - It's not too shabby. - No, not too shabby at all. - That's going up to the beginning of this season. - There you go. - Derby drew to all the cards. Oliver got a shell-shade gone. - Yeah. - Not too surprising. - It can't have weren't even in the relegations over any took over. - No, it's not too surprising. Just the way the football is. - No, in the Premier League. - Oh, it wasn't even took over. - I think there was 17 in the Premier League. - Yeah. - Not an adjust. - Now that 18th in the championship, I think I can't know. - What about Leeds? - Well, 16th. - Leeds, they look as though they're going to be, but it's all pretty much a done deal at the time recording Darko, Melanich has been given the job. - Is there any mana? Manage mainly in Slovenia, he's managed most recently in Austria with Sturmgrad, so only one season there. He's done a really good job at Maripold though, isn't he? He did, I mean, they won three domestic trophies, I think they won the triple there. Well, they're in the Champions League now as well. Yeah, I mean, yeah, he's done well there, but I mean, it's one of those questions. How come a guy gets a good job like Leeds and maybe not a British manager? Yeah, I don't want to be too strong. Might you give it three months and it probably will have another chance. Mate, it's probably a time. Yeah, any managers who fancy taking over Leeds, keep your arm the job's born. Yeah, yeah. I think I don't want to be jingoistic about the British-made-a-thing and the sound of it like Paul Ins. But the thing is that when you bring a manager in from that far away and from a different culture, it's just another variable, isn't it? It's just another thing to worry about. We'll leave settle. We'll let the skills transferable. Yeah. At the time, I mean, of course. Did you speak the language? She knows it is after. We know it is. It's an absolute horror show. So that aside, Neil Reffren's actually doing an okay job, isn't he? Yeah. They played really well. They won three-nil. They played some good football in the weekend. I mean, it's obviously. I think they've won like three of the last four, I don't know, okay. I've done. Yeah, yeah. Give him their job. Did you see Grant Leibbitt's goal for Millersboro? His Brentford. That was an absolute beauty. Oh, the Fawn Hill. Oh, the Fawn Hill. Beauty. Yeah, he's got six and eight from midfield. That was a lovely goal. They always his lovely goals. Would you even mention Crankerl's free kick? It was so much happening in the Premier League. Oh, yeah. After I slated him last week. That's right. You had a cranking. He didn't really slated him. He slated the tactics. He can't plan a central midfield too. I think he was moved a bit further out this game wider because Barton was back. Yeah. So I think he's obviously more affected Crankerl. Free roll. Yeah, exactly. Free roll. Before we go on to, what do you do next, Leliga? We could have a little mention Leliga. Yeah, before we go on to that, Elliot Coombs' face-booktus saying, what's Pete's worst habit? Editing. I was thinking that he eats quite a lot of weird, smelly food. Yeah, that is true. Yeah. I think he's got a sense of. Is it Bill Tongue? No, he got a sense of some sort of food from Whids, food from Thailand, didn't he? Yeah. Just in the post, we picked it up at work where he works. Absolutely radio. And you know, yeah, this guy sends me stuff all the time. And just opens a bucket that starts munching. I'm not lying on Pete. It was food I've never seen before. Yeah. He's got a bit of a "didn't look desirable". And you don't know who. He's got a huge propensity for weird food. Yeah, he does. Yeah. I think that's probably his biggest flaw. So, Bill Tongue's not very nice. I like talking about him when he's not here. Yeah. He's he not. You know, that's a weird thing about it, but he could be watching us in some kind of capacity. He could turn up. He could turn up. Of course, drunk and purchase. But we all know about that. Yeah. That's one of his best. That was going to say. Yeah. I was going to say, he's whimsical drunk and purchases. Just take a moment to imagine what he's going to bring back from South Korea. That's what we can all look forward to next week. Boom. He's going to bring back from South Korea. Yeah, yeah, yeah, a bit of a bit of a question. Well, he's got Japan as well. Yeah, true. He might lose it in Japan, but he'll have a chance to get it back magnificent stuff. Yeah, should we go to the Liga? Yes. I don't know. It's all over the shop here. Oh, yeah. The Liga. Let's say the drop points at home to Celter Vigo 2. Oh, that and this girl was an absolute beauty. You want that wonderful piece of opportunism? Yeah. Just flick these leg up in the air. So, you haven't watched that. You must. The Celter Vigo first goal in the letter game. It's the sort of goal that you would think only some of us Latin would try. Yeah. There's a bit of that going on, isn't there? Certainly. Two goals from Letty. The Centrebacks Miranda and Godine scored. That's just they use the set pieces so well, don't they? They do. I think Godine, I mean, I was looking at thinking about this earlier because Godine is obviously a great defender and stuff, but he's not actually scored that many goals for a defender. It's career, but in the last season or so, he's really added that to the game. That's going to be only really. It's tactics there. Yeah, and I think he scored eight goals last season. Yeah. He's isn't too bad. Crucial moments. People think of the big moves to buy in the sun as well, which obviously didn't come off, but that shows how highly he's regarded. That has been a shame. He's such a danger from set pieces, he really is. Indeed. Real Madrid, he's able to give it eight to my Gideon, Xenardine's a dance under investigation. People complaining about it, he doesn't have the relevant qualifications. Oh, well. Cut in corners again, the big boys aren't they? That Hernandez goal, the Chiturito goal. What a beauty. That game was amazing. There's so much insight. I genuinely think Deppel Tiva. I watched this back again. I genuinely think Deppel Tiva could have scored five or six. Yeah. It could have been eight six. It's the same old Real Madrid, what were bombing on. Fair enough, I'm not having a go at them, they scored eight goals. Eight goals. He can't argue with that. Ronaldo has chipped him with another hat trick. A ridiculous head done. I only he could score. Going back was away from going on. That's 15 yards out, heads it into the top corner. From a floated cross as well. Obviously, Bal got a couple and stuff. But I just thought they left a back door open and Deppel Tiva could have scored so many. Indeed. I don't know what the goalkeeper was doing for that third goal as well. He's seen Manuel Noia, they before or something. I thought I'm having a bit of this. It's who defended Deppel Tiva. Deppel Tiva clear it up. The ball is 50 yards out of goal. At least it still comes out. It's absolutely crazy. Yeah, absolutely. That was absolutely wonderful. Defending is dead. We're talking about long range goals. We have to go to the Bundesliga. Yes. And 83 yards out. That's unbelievable. It's hard to know how a. It wasn't surprising that that's a record. Yeah, the reason that. Well, I was about to say, the reason that record was unlikely to be broken because of very, very rarely. It's an outfield player. I mean, because obviously it's an out, a record for an outfield player. Yeah, sure. Because the goalkeeper, we've seen ones are twice a boot now. Indeed. It's very rare an outfield player will get a chance to do that. And the reason I like that goal is for Paddeball, wasn't it? It was top of the league. It's incredible. I mean, he got 15,000 seats at the stadium, a small club. Yeah. The only thing I can remember about Paddeball is when it was a few years ago, I think Paddeball was a team. I'd never heard of them. So they beat a hamburger, I think, in a cup game. Oh, that was quite an infamous one. Yeah, and the referee was then sent to prison for match for a team. For a referee, yeah. Apart from that, I didn't know much about them, but obviously they're top of the league at the moment. But the reason I love that goal was a stop all camp who scored it. Yeah. It was because whenever you see a player presented with an opportunity like that, a lot of times they'll fluff it, ballad-tooled it a week or two. Yeah. You know, snatch at it, not him. Calm. Cool as a cucumber. But the fact that he shot from there, people would have a dribble. But it wasn't it laces. Yeah. It was perfect. You left me laces. Yeah, cool. Yeah. Well, I told Punt maybe. Yeah, well, absolutely wonderful goal. And before we leave, in fact, no, we're going to leave Europe. We're going to go to quickly to Australia because Vishnu Chari says, "What you guys think will happen in the A league this year? Luke, any audience?" Yes. Difficult to say. I think the best team will win. Yeah, I did too. And let's be derisive of the A league. Well, I'm not going to pretend that I know what was going on. I should belittle it. Now, Heskey's gone. Yeah. Our interests have plummeted somewhat. But quickly to Brazil, there was, or yet, Curitiba Striker Joel, disappearing down a hole. So probably now. Oh, I saw that. Yeah, yeah. My goodness. It was right there on the end. Thank goodness he was. Don't know. Put cones around it. Do something. Do you think it was covered on it? It just disappeared through it. That was the point it was covered. And he didn't see the hole. It was covered. It was like a trap. It was. And then, of course, you've got watchgate. The Brazilian Football Federation, giving the representatives of all 32 World Cup teams. The Parmigiani watches. They're going to have to return them because FIFA ethics committee have woken up. I like the idea that even when this is all turned on. Yeah. All the people that received them said, "Oh, yeah, we'll give them back." It's not the point. So, basically, you've been caught, so you're giving back. That's not the principle of it. Can we have the bribery money back? That's not allowed. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, no, no bother at all. So, yeah, do we have any more little questions or anything? Yeah, I've got a few little ones to finish off with. With it. Yeah, we haven't been talking a long time. I think we've done a long time. Matthew Eves says, "Who would win in a bare knuckle brawl between Ray Winston's virtual disembodied head from the advert and Tiggie Rainbow using Manganoid's front for his arms and legs, like some kind of humanoid robot?" Well, the first thing to remember. Oh, listen, the ship, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, the first. You could have chosen any question. He's chosen that one. That's bad enough. The second thing it's bad is that it's got in. Oh, well, it's got to be Tiggie Rainbow, because it's only the head. The first thing to remember, though, is Ray Winston's big. No, it's just a head. Tiggie Rainbow is very small. But it's just a head. Tiggie would run around behind him and whack foul cow against his head. Yeah, Tiggie is small, but he's not adverse to dirty tactics. Why are we attempting to answer this question? Well, you've got to fill the questions you're given. You can only answer the questions that are put in front of you. Exactly. So we think Tiggie. Yeah, I'm going to go to Winston. I wish he wasn't to be on the rest of the matter. Oh, no, it'll take a while. But it would be a bit like a bit of a knaff computer game when you've got the big boss man who's clearly more powerful than you. But you just kind of got to work away. You've been in the jobs. Stapes are you? Yeah, exactly. And eventually you're wearing them. I don't think Tiggie, as far as I remember, Tiggie Rainbow was not a tough man. No. He was setting up a fighter, but he was. He was on security in the union. Yeah, they told him. In the bar. That's not about the union in Tiggie Rainbow. Yeah. I hope that answers your question Matthew. We spent a minute of our own valuable, all the unrealistic state answering that. And just to finish off real quick, we got a new little hashtag that sprung up organically. #PressedRumespy. Tom Pymin says, "I was at Schiffel Wednesday on Saturday and come and confirm that Ian Dauy likes plenty of gravy on this chicken pie." As Ferenac. "To which Peter Selby said, "No Jeff Shrieves press room antics at Leicester, "but I can confirm that Martin Keon loves an egg sandwich." Good man. So I keep those coming. I like an egg in ham sandwich. I don't know about you guys, but I'd love to know more about players like Abahana Sien's little media people, players, pros, behind the scenes. So keep those coming in. You're picking up where I dropped the ball. You're picking up the ball where I dropped the ball with Zadan, not actually noticing what dessert he had. Remember that, yeah? In the Champions League final. I saw him having dessert, but I didn't quite clock when it was. And again, I apologize. Yeah, you need to up your press room spy game. Yeah. I just quit it before we go. What's that I've inspired people? Fred Court-Ren, I think that's called, that's his name, saying, it was annoyed because he didn't get a name check when he correctly guessed Kevin Keegan talking German on the mystery voice that we got to ago. I think that went to the spam, so sorry about that. Fred, but you got your mention now, so there you go. Yeah, stop spamming us. Yeah, spamming egg? You're right about this, Fred. That's a nice one. Well, I'll finish off just with an email. I think it's for the attention of me, purely looking at the content of it. Hello, the football ramble. My name is. My name is Magica Magic, and I look for talented people like you. I had a chance to listen to your joke, and I really enjoyed it. - Oh, thanks. - I sure did. That was one for me. So thanks Mr. Kermagic. Appreciate that. - Could be a Mrs. - Could be. So there we are. We did it. We got through it. Please don't give us any feedback. (laughing) Just it's done. Ladies and gentlemen, we've all got through it together. We fulfilled our contract along the day. (laughing) No, it's not so fun, it's good. And we'll leave it there. I don't think we need these boys back. Oh, but yeah, if you want to get in touch with. I mean, you've seen the level of. The level of questioning. So I'm sure you can contribute somewhere down the line. Don't be afraid to send us an email as well. The email address is [email protected]. The Twitter is @footballramble.com. Indeed. That's it, Luke. I think we're back with the full house next week, will we? Certainly, three hours or so. Be nice wouldn't that? Absolutely. Say goodbye, Luke. Goodbye. And it's goodbye from me. Thank you for. For daring with it. (upbeat music)