This Is Trump's Sinister Plot Against His Own Aide

what's in trump's head about susie wiles and this asking around thing that he calls up people and he's actually even done this to me everybody knows that the asking around about is the kiss of death that means you have to say well you know i think there's some some issues there mr president it begins to undermine people so does that mean the end of susie wiles and i you know i expect that it it does mean that that after the midterms she will be toast susie toast what he is doing is sending the signal that susie wiles is out he's poisoning the susie wiles ground michael joanna we're both in winter cardigans the fall is wrapping its arms around us gee i don't know that's that's um very dramatic well what a dramatic day it actually it actually isn't quite wrapping yet i mean the sun is still the sun is still strong right um it will hit near 70 degrees out here at the beach so i i'm not giving in to fall yet okay so michael's happy in the hamptons i think we're taking from that happy in the hamptons everyone is happy in the hamptons paradise paradise michael okay we have a lot to get to is susie wiles on the way out did katie zachariah the new white house press secretary uh obfuscate her legal background turns out she didn't pass the bar exam will she pass michael wolf's exam uh we've got kimberly gilfoyle and your excellent piece on substack there was a fantastic line in there i'm gonna get to uh poor ukraine uh just terrible terrible scenes coming out of ukraine uh james talarico on the cnn town hall stage and well i mean you know it's just a lot to get into all of this is on the cusp of the midterms it's all on the cusp of the midterms that's right and we'll be right on the cusp of the midterms next tuesday in l.a at the terragram ballroom october the 20th 7 p.m be there or be nowhere tickets on ticketmaster or beast dot pub slash ith michael we haven't figured out what we're going to talk about yet um no but before we before we get to that and actually we should probably not do that here because we should do that um um offline as they say but uh but hollywood um so uh several last week week before last we were dissing ari emmanuel's book a mildly dissing were we dissing it i think you said you weren't going to read it that's all i well i think that that qualified as a diss and ari called me up and said um uh and i quote i've read all your books you better well read mine so uh that sounds quintessential ari emmanuel so so instructed i did read the book and actually it's fantastic it is i mean i'm a kind of a connoisseur of hollywood yarns and this is uh this is really up there with with the with some of the best hollywood books and the thing i always like about hollywood and hollywood books it's a distillation of the worst people on earth i mean it is it is human behavior at its rock bottom and um uh and ari well one of the nice things about about ari or one of the horrifying things about ari depending upon how you look at it is that he is vivid in his descriptions of the um of the lowest common denominator of human nature and he delivers it here what is fantastic what is the lowest common denominator of human nature very low very low very low very very low very very low very low very low very low um and and that's this i mean the hollywood thing is is um unlike politics where they pretend it's something else and it's always cast in a um in a civic light there is there in hollywood and washington are quite similar but it is um hollywood and the true the best hollywood books um always get to the um the heart of the matter that people are craven despicable and would do anything to get what they want okay so ari emmanuel famously known i think as a as a bully in hollywood is it fair to say he just bullied you into reading his book yes and is it also how did he know how did he know that you hadn't read his book oh because he listens to the part i mean he he he he it was my confession on the podcast um so he he's he knows all sees all including us so maybe the question is will he come to the pterogram ballroom on tuesday night well he should come he should come he absolutely should yeah if you've read his book as he put it then um he should come to our live show uh we don't know what we're going to be talking about because the world is turning so fast we'll be talking about what we're going to be talking about fast we'll be talking about whatever's going on that week and also giving some perspective about what we think will happen in the midterms yeah well i think we'll also be to be talking about what we always talk about what's going on inside trump's head what motivates him what did he get up this morning or next tuesday morning thinking and then acting on irresponsibly acting on uncontrollably acting on okay well this is inside trump's head the podcast we go there three times a week feel free well please subscribe to the podcast the reason that we can have these crazy conversations well the truth is they're not crazy but they're conversations unlike anything you will get elsewhere about what is going on with donald trump how he runs america and the impact he's had the outsized impact he's had um please press the subscription button share with your friends share with your frenemies share with your political adversaries uh let it lead to a conversation as we're recording this we're recording this on thursday morning it's just come in over the wires that uh donald trump has nixed the live streaming of the execution okay so this is the first time i am hearing this so but just let me rush to it's rush in here to point out that this is exactly what we said would happen right that there was no chance that this was that he was going to carry this out this was just a um a news cycle gambit and just to you know that that thing and i'm not i'm not sure i'm not sure we said this the last i think i forgot to say this when we were discussing this the other day that he does this thing a constant one of the constant things that goes on behind the scenes is trump saying to aids put it out there just put it out just put it out there aids are going but but but and he says just put it out there and this was this was clearly one of those things and clearly every single person in the media fell for it do you do you think he said that or was this pete hegseth just running his mouth because pete hegseth said it during a podcast yeah no i'm i'm sure that he said to he said to hegseth and just put it out there oh okay so you think donald came up with the idea gave it to somebody may hegseth may have said something about it and then trump said oh yeah yeah yeah yeah let's just put that out there so does this look bad for hegseth hegseth's put it out there apparently owned the idea jd vance swoops in and says well he won't be watching it i saw one poll that said eight out of ten americans hated this idea um so is trump now coming in over the top of hegseth i i don't think that this was ever there was ever in anybody's imagination or playbook that this was going to happen this is just trump it's just the trump white house put it out there not going to happen we don't care if it's going to happen we'll we're going to take the um we're going to claim the news cycle on this put it out there you so is there any reverberation for hegseth over this because he seemed to have owned the idea yeah i i i don't think so at all i think i think trump is probably very pleased with this whole whole thing we got it everybody it it commanded it commanded headlines for what two or three news cycles great okay you're right i'm still looking i'm still looking for logic and there is no logic the logic the logic is and let me and i you know and i i spell this out all the time but let me do it again because it's very hard for people to grasp attention is zero sum if trump if the trump white if trump and the trump white house gets it it. Other people don't. We're in the middle of the midterms now, everybody fighting for attention. So we're going to say we're going to execute someone, a live stream and execution. Headlines. He gets the headlines, someone else doesn't. And then it goes away. So days from now, a week from now, two weeks from now, nobody remembers the live stream execution that never was. And what a waste of energy there was around it and people running around saying this undermines American values when all it is is a play for attention by Donald Trump. Yeah. So why doesn't we're in the 10th year of this? How come the New York Times doesn't have a headline which says, says Trump promises live execution that will never happen? I don't know. But what they did have yesterday was an incredible photo of Donald Trump in Marine One of the United States. And it was a photo of Donald Trump in Marine One of the United States. Yeah. Republican conventions. I mean, she looked very strange. She looked as if literally she was wearing a nightdress. She said that she had every right to do that, which of course she does. But then it's very weird when she attacks Katie Zachariah, who was wearing sort of perfect corporate wear, I thought. This morning, my wife and I were going through old tracing back Katie Zachariah on the internet. And she was, if you go back, she's a conventionally pretty woman, but, you know, a not unusual blonde, nice looking, pre-makeup. And then you see this transformation of her over time in which the face becomes just incredibly glossed and kind of. Well, Mara Largo, right? She's become Mara Largo in the way that Kimberly Guilfoyle has done. No. And that would have been one of those things to absolutely appeal to Trump. Trump would never appoint the way Katie Zachariah looked 10 years ago. So she had to go through this transformation into a Fox star. I mean, that's always the. Fox really created the Mara Largo look. Fair. So one person who hasn't succumbed to the Mara Largo look is Suzy Wiles. You predicted at the beginning of this year that you thought she wouldn't last post-November, so post the midterms. There was a piece in Politico this morning saying that Trump is doing that thing that you always talk about. And I think that's a good thing. I think that's a good thing. Calling around and just trying things out on people. So what do you think about Suzy Wiles? How's Suzy doing? What do you think about Suzy? So how is she doing? What are you hearing? Well, I mean, let's go back to what. It doesn't matter how she is doing. It's a matter of how she is. What Trump's impression at the moment, what's in Trump's head about Suzy Wiles. And this asking around thing. Which is, let me. I think I was certainly the first person to paint that portrait of what he does, which is really peculiar, that he calls up people. And he's actually even done this to me. And he says, what do you think about so-and-so? What do you think about Steve when. That would have been Steve Bannon. I think that's actually. That's what he did say to me. And everybody knows that the asking around about is the kiss of death. That means you have to say, well, you know, I think there's some issues there, Mr. President. And then he will tell you what the. I absolutely agree. Then he will go on. And the other effect of this, the asking around, is that it begins to undermine people. So this gets spread from one person to another. What did he say? Well, he was asking me about, you know, whoever. I'm sure he's now asking around about Katie Zachariah. But he is apparently asking around about Suzy Wiles. So does that mean the end of Suzy Wiles? And I, you know, I expect that it does mean that, that after the midterms, she will be. Toast. Suzy Toast. Suzy Toast. So do we have a sense of, is he yet asking who, what about so-and-so to fill her shoes? Yes. He apparently is asking about this person or that person. But that really doesn't mean he's actually asking about that person. What he's done, what he is doing is sending the signal that Suzy Wiles is asking about that person. And he's actually asking about that person. And he's saying that Suzy Wiles is out. So he's poisoning, he's poisoning the Suzy Wiles ground. Suzy Wiles must know this. Of course. Right. So she's, why doesn't she just say, you know what, Mr. President, thank you so much. I think I'm going to leave you to your own midterms. Well, because she won't. She'll wait until after the midterms. That's just, that's just what you do. If you're remotely, have a scintilla of loyalty. But I would do remember Nikki Haley in before the 2020 election. So weeks before the 2020 election, she bailed from her job at the UN. And why did she do that? Was it, was the goal to make some money? No, I think, I think the goal was not to be taken down by the ship. With a Nikki Haley, where is she now? Well, and obviously, then she went on, she broke from Donald Trump and, and believed that she could have an independent political career as a candidate for president, which didn't go very well. As I say, where is she now? So skids under Suzy Wiles, possibly the skids under Katie Zachariah in record time. And of course, the skids have well and truly been pulled out, if that's the right expression, under Kimberly Guilfoyle. In Katie Zachariah's first press conference, she announced the astonishment of the press corps sitting in front of her. When asked about Kimberly Guilfoyle, she said, well, we've asked the ambassador to resign. You had a wonderful column on Kimberly Guilfoyle in Substack this week, which talked about her retailing her influence, which I thought was a wonderful line. And of course, you've talked before about watching her go full basic instinct on Sean Hannity's plane on the way down to Roger Ailes' funeral, which again, is just a sort of mind-boggling scene. How did I ever, ever find myself in that situation? Well, thank goodness you did, because you got a very good book out of it. And we've been able to talk about Kimberly Guilfoyle ever since. But what do you think she does now? Does she have stuff on the Trumps? Was this. I'm still sort of fascinated by why now and why they came after Kimberly. And it seems to have come from all sorts of angles. I mean, disgruntled ex-staffers. Let's add another component to this. It did. I did. Remember, so the Wall Street Journal has three successive stories, each more devastating, about Kimberly Guilfoyle. But let's just go back a bit to Don Jr.'s wedding. Mm-hmm. To Bettina Anderson. And remember that there is a. that there was a leak involving that wedding when it was revealed that his reception was being paid for by a Russian oligarch. And they have since tried to cover that, smooth that over. They're going to return the money. But it was a. that was a pretty devastating revelation. So are these connected? How might they be connected? Well, one of the ways that they might be connected is that the leaker of. about the Russian oligarch might have been his former fiancée, Kimberly Guilfoyle. And this now might be payback for that. Or let's recast this in another way. This really isn't about Kimberly Guilfoyle. This is about Don Jr. Let's get Don for any number of reasons, including heading off any possibility or hoping to head off any possibility that he might be a. a 28. a 2028 contender. So you're proposing that it's possible Kimberly Guilfoyle leaked the details of Don Jr.'s wedding that his father didn't attend to Bettina Anderson, who was her rival, who overlapped with her as sort of payback. And then his camp leaked details of Kimberly Guilfoyle misbehaving. I'm just putting it out there. What a nightmare to be a member of that family. What an absolute nightmare to be involved with any of them that this is how they behave. Fascinating. Absolutely fascinating. Of course, it's all alleged because we don't know if any of it's true, but it does make a sort of weird Trumpian sense, doesn't it? No. And I'm. I'm. I'm really fascinated by this, the Trumpian character, which Kimberly Guilfoyle would have come to. Epitomize. And it is, you know, in a way is back to the. the. many of the characters that Ari Emanuel describes in his book. It's without pretense, without shame. I want what I want, and I'm going to do anything I have to do to get it. And the only sort of difference between Hollywood people and Trump people in this is that Trump people are kind of so unsmooth about it, so inept, so gross. Well, they're less attractive, too. I mean, the veneer of attractiveness in Hollywood actually allows people to get away with things. Well, there are a lot of ugly guys in Hollywood, I'll tell you that. Well, that's true. But the interesting thing about Hollywood and the interesting thing when you spend any time there is that the people are, for the most part, more attractive. You know? It's a place where people run on the beach. It sort of does have an element of Baywatch about it. It's certainly more attractive than they are in D.C. I mean, I think you're just saying that they have better plastic surgeons than the Trump people, because the Trump people certainly seem to have terrible plastic surgeons. But I think it's more than that. I mean, it is really this ethos. I mean, it's a very kind of desperate ethos that the world, the world is a bad place and you have to get what you get is what you take. And very much within the Trump world, that's what you always sense. And even maybe more particular to Trump world, we will never have this kind of opportunity again. We must do it now. And the Kimberly Guilfoyle thing, which kind of predates Trump, because she's married to Gavin Newsom, but then she comes to New York, gets involved with Fox News, and then sees this opportunity within Trump world. And it has seemed to pay off for her at several points, including that she almost, but not quite, became the president's daughter-in-law. And then failing that, she became in the. And, you know, a United States ambassador, also an incredibly unlikely outcome. Well, and there's a sort of, I mean, Democrats aren't going to like me saying this, but there's an element of Pamela Harriman about her too, isn't there? I mean, she's a much cruder version of Pamela Harriman, who is much more sophisticated, but also got an ambassadorship, was also married to, well, she married Winston Churchill's son, right? She did. She married a governor. A governor of New York. Right. Yeah. No, I mean, Kimberly Guilfoyle is not an unusual character in politics or at a certain level of American life. The only thing that is different about her might seem to be a complete lack of pretense. I don't care. I don't care who knows what. I am out here. I am out here getting what I can get, and I don't care who knows it. So what is, what's her next move? Well, I mean, the question is, does she have, does she go into, into revenge mode or, and actually it's more complicated, because she would ask herself, how do I monetize my revenge? Or how do I monetize not seeking revenge? So, you know, I don't know. The question will be for her is how do I, how do I monetize? And that will be over and above the emotional need for revenge. And it may well be, I mean, I would suspect now, I think maybe we discussed this, that she's negotiating with them. And they will have to deliver something to her for, in order for her not to seek revenge. Right. Because she must know a lot. Revenge is going to be her, her chip right now. How does she play that? How does she monetize restraint or active revenge? Exactly. So we, at any rate, we can safely say we have not heard the last of Kimberly Guilford. We have not. And we are here for it, Michael. The moment she, she makes any further noises or moves, we are definitely here for it. And I really, I recommend your substack column. Because it's beautifully written and it just gets at the heart of what a novelistic character she is. And what I meant by the attractive thing in Hollywood was just that so many people go there to be actors and to, you know, to act out their fame craving. And to be, to be taken seriously as an actor, for the most part, you have to be attractive. So the war, Michael, I mean. Okay. No, I think, I think this is so, so beyond put. We, I think we can, everything that we've discussed, we can, we can, we can now sort of, in this show, we can put aside. And that's all, you know, I mean, fascinating, but ultimately not, not remotely as consequential as what we discuss now, which is, which is Elon Musk, private citizen, essentially closing, threatening a, um, an independent nation, um, more than threatening squeezing an independent nation. So we have a couple of things on, on, on Elon and let's go back. Elon in 2024, Elon put up $300 million to help Trump win the 2024 election, 300 and $300 million in the context of politics. Of one man putting up that much money is unheard of. That is that $300 million was the largest individual contribution to a political campaign in history. Okay. That then bought him basically the position of the second most powerful person in the white house and gave him the right without accountability to storm roll through the U S government. Burning and slashing, which he did right up until the point that the power he was, that the power he had assumed started to rival Trump's own power and they had a fight. Then he was out. Now, Elon Musk is back, um, uh, putting up just about $300 million again in the midterms. So we can assume that he is not doing that out of the goodness of his heart. Um, he wants power, he is buying power and he is paying so disproportionately for it that he wants disproportionate power, which he will wield with the heaviest of hands. The backdrop here is Trump, who is also trying to cut off Ukraine and trying to pressure Ukraine into making a deal with Russia. Uh, and Trump is doing this for a reason. For a variety of reasons in, in, you know, including, including his desperate last minute hope to, um, um, uh, to, to bring oil prices down, um, and to be able to claim that he's the peacemaker in Ukraine before the midterm elections, but also because he has had this long standing aspiration to, I don't know, bond with, um, Vladimir Putin. To do business with Vladimir Putin, which Musk also has. So you have this, this, um, uh, this, um, a moment on kind of a transparent moment of these two authoritarian oligarchs trying to have their way at the expense of, um, of a, of a country and of a, and of a people and of, and. Of, uh, uh, you know, the international order freedom in Europe. I mean, Elon Musk yesterday issued a statement saying this wasn't his decision. It was the Pentagon's decision because star shield, which is the, the defensive technology that the Ukrainians use is paid for by the Pentagon. Yes. I think he is doing the bidding of doing Trump's bidding here. Um, but I'm, but this is Elon Musk. Believe me, Elon Musk doesn't do anything. But he's bidding that he doesn't want to. Well, and of course the irony is Trump doing this shocking deal to buy Russian diesel to offset the prices of diesel in the U S which have gone up because of his disastrous war with Iran. I mean, Iran yesterday, you know, well, this month in October alone has blown up 14 ships trying to get out of the Strait of Hormuz. Right. So there, there's actually a couple of things here. Interesting things here. Um, one of which is that this is another Trump bullshit deal. I mean, the American. of diesel fuel that the U.S. would be getting is inconsequential, actually. But what it does symbolically is it is sanction-breaking. We have these sanctions against Russia. We have these sanctions involve a moral position. It's a moral position which we have argued with much of the world. You have to do this. We are doing this. You have to do this. We all have to do this. And this is now sort of thrown into the crapper. Right. And something that actually America had held fairly tightly, actually, and hadn't broken them. And of course, this is just a remarkable deal that he's done with Putin. And it probably, as you say, it's such a small amount of diesel, it probably won't have any impact on prices whatsoever. When it goes back to this thing, you know, what is the relationship, one of the most confounding things about the Trump era and Trump's political career? What is it with Trump and Vladimir Putin? Is it just not that the Russians helped him out during his business lows? I mean, you've talked about how the Russians, how Trump, you know, when Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump fell out over a piece of real estate in Palm Beach, Jeffrey Epstein had offered 36 million, I think, for the property. Trump gazumped him with 41 million and then sold the property two years later for 95 million, which suggested that he was laundering money for somebody. The person who bought the property was a Russian. Unheard of for properties to double in value like that, especially at that end of the market. I mean, is it not as simple as they just kept bailing him out? Well, I think that that's part of it, but I think that that misses the broader picture. The broader picture is this. Trump wants access to this kind of money on this kind of scale. Trump wants to be an oligarch. Trump responds to oligarchs. Trump is, I mean, that's the world in which he would like to live and move. And I think that's the world in which he would like to live and move. And at this point, as the presidency comes to an end, this is his opportunity. Well, maybe his last opportunity. And he is going to get, like Kimberly Guilfoyle, although poor Kimberly is at a, you know, I'm kind of, her sums are, no, Kimberly, her sums are embarrassingly small. She had asked for, she asked somebody for $100,000 to pay off her Amex. If she had asked for 100 million, well, she would be in a, she would probably be embraced by the Trump team. That's what Trump is looking at, access to this kind of money. I mean, what people often call the world's unbanked money. Mm-hmm. So he's going to segue from being president to oligarch. He doesn't give a shit about the rest of the Republican Party, doesn't care who follows him. He wants nobody, in fact, to follow him. And he's doing his best, weirdly, to lose the midterms, it seems. Yeah, well, I don't, I'm trying to think if that does, does he really want to lose the midterms? I think it's true that he doesn't really give a shit about this. But on the other hand, I think he could wake up on the morning of November 4th and find himself in a new world, which he doesn't, he's not prepared for, that he won't be able to understand. And the final, the final chapter begins. We're often saying that people around Trump have an audience of one, and that's Donald Trump. Does Donald Trump have an audience of one, and that's Vladimir Putin? No, I don't really think so. I mean, I think that he, that he wants a bond with Putin because, because Putin, Putin is the, is a model that he is drawn to. The authoritarianism, the fact that he has, that he has been able to, able to, to achieve such control over, over his own political fate, but also just the money. He wants the money. I mean, Trump is, remember, and it's always important, Trump is a simple machine. Give me the money. I just want money. And, and you can see everything that has happened in, especially in this second, second term. It's just about the money. Put up the money. You want a pardon? Put up the money. You want a deal? Put up the money. You want, you're a, you know, you're a, a company, you want favorable treatment? Put up the money. And, and, and it's, it's not complicated. Trump is an oligarch. Why hasn't that been more of a conversation? And as you say, it's why he surrounds himself with these people and thinks these people are wiser than, than anyone else. And he looks as if he's going to get his own way. What's he made? 2.2 billion last year. And I'm sure he'll make the same again this year. The fact that the unfathomable thing is why people don't seem to care very much. I don't know. I mean, perhaps because the sums are so great that it's, it's, it's almost impossible to comprehend. You know, a hundred thousand dollars to, to pay off a credit card. People understand that level of corruption. Billions, upon billions of dollars, it becomes a different world. You know, Elon Musk, 300 million dollars. It's, it's, you know, I'm tempted to say, you know, you know, cashed your, your vote against Republicans in, in, on November 3rd or voting begins many places now because that's a vote against Elon. But that's a misunderstanding. You know, democracy doesn't really know how to deal with 300 million dollars. 300 million dollars is its own power. And, um, and that's what, I don't think anybody has kind of come to terms with this. Nobody has come to terms with the level of money that is now in, in, um, in so many private hands. Right. Right. Well, uh, did you see anything of James Tallarico, the Democratic hopeful for Senate in Texas? He did a town hall on CNN last night, Wednesday night. Did you manage to see anything? Yeah, I, I, I did. And I thought it, I thought he's, you know, I thought he's attractive. He's impressive. He's, um, you know, kind of, um, you know, refreshingly normal. He struck me as a, you know, kind of maybe an older fashion Democrat as somebody who's, who's, um, um, you know, who's a, a, a guy who has serious thoughts about policy issues, who's trying to work through three things. Um, um, you know, a socially liberal guy, a, a kind of less liberal when it comes to other issues, particularly Texas related issues. Um, uh, you know, he, he seems, he seems credible, plausible, and, um, in any other world than the Trump world, likely. And in the comparison to Ken Paxton, who is perfectly, who is another Trump figure, who is Kimberly Guilfoyle, just in, in another, in another, um, in another guise, um, you know, I mean, corrupt and he doesn't care who knows he's corrupt and, uh, and doesn't have a serious policy bone in his body and is just about gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme. I thought it was very relaxing watching James Tallarico because you didn't feel he was word salad-ing it. He felt that he was very agile, quick on his feet. They had one part of, uh, the town hall where they, uh, had individuals from the audience come out and sit and argue with him on a certain point. And I thought he, he seemed so harder to have prepared answers, my point being there. And he seemed good. I thought he was flexible. He's intelligent. He's thought things through to your point, but also I didn't feel anxious watching him. There are so many democratic candidates that you feel anxious for because they seem terrified to say what they actually believe. And he didn't have any of that. And neither does John Ossoff. No, this is a close race in Texas, very close. Um, and, um, and he could, he could still lose this and the, and the Republicans have, have, I mean, they have two things going for them. They have, they have devoted an enormous amount of money to this, to this race. And then they still have this shameless ability to pull out these culture issues, which have, I mean, it's sort of unbelievable that they have an effect, that they have real power. So J.D. Vance going to Texas and suggesting that that Tallarico is gay. And for all I know, Tallarico may be gay, which but this is in the in the, you know, in the context of Texas politics, that is going to move a lot of votes. I wonder how Scott Besson, the Treasury secretary, feels about that. Well, he feels unusual. He's glad he's not running for anything. And maybe he thinks, well, if it's going to win. A Senate seat and keep the Senate. Scott Besson is also Kimberly Guilfoyle in another in another form. Gimme, gimme, gimme. I am. This is my opportunity. I will never. It may never come my way again. Trump is an opportunity. And that is what literally everybody around Trump. Trump says there is nobody. Let's remember this. Nobody who says, Donald Trump, what a great guy. They say Donald Trump is my fucking opportunity and I'm going to take it. And that's why I like talking to Michael, the American presidency for sale yet again. We'll be back on Saturday with another episode of Inside Trump's Head. And then, of course, Tuesday will be live. We'll be live in L.A. at the Terragram Ballroom, October the 20th, 7 p.m. Please come. Please come meet us. Maybe meet Ari Emanuel. Ari, you're going to have to come now. You're going to have to come. Michael, I'll see you on Saturday. Fantastic. Enjoy. Enjoy your warm summer day in the Hamptons, your paradise in the Hamptons. And Michael, do you want to thank our troops? Everybody who makes this possible, whose names I. I'm always forgetting. Ryan, John, Heather, Rachel and Neil. Thank you. Don't really forget them. See you on Saturday. But I have to I have to grasp for them. But I grasp for your name, too. So the good news is we have so many B-Beast tier members now. There are too many names to read out. And we really appreciate your support.