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We are independent media and we can have conversations that you cannot have in big corporate media. And today's conversation we're having with Keisha. I'm Joanna Coles. I'm Joanna Coles. conducted fairly, etc. And they are monitoring our election in Georgia this year. So not just in Georgia, across the country, we have to stay vigilant and make sure that what we're telling people in Georgia is don't wait until the last minute to show up to vote because we don't know what disruptions may come. Treat every day of early voting, which begins October 13th, as if it is an election day. So it's easy to think of Georgia in a sense as ground zero for Trump's election interference, especially when he asked Brad Ratensberger to find him in another, you know, 11,800 votes. How disappointed were you? And I know you've known Fannie Willis for a long time, that the case around that interference fell apart in the, in the way that it did. Well, you know, I have known Fannie for a very long time. And when Fannie brought the case, I assume that, you know, she had grounds for bringing that case. She is the district attorney for Fulton County, and she prosecutes thousands of cases each year. And, you know, like so many people, we were anticipating that Trump would be held accountable. That being said, you know, I, I've been so focused on, on what I have going on, running for governor of Georgia. I hadn't spent a lot of energy on it, but I know for many people across this state, it was a disappointment because there was a very blatant attempt to interfere with our elections. And, you know, again, even when, when, when he did it and, and seemed to have gotten away with it, he's now done it again by having the elections office raided and by having, uh, them cart out election documents that we still don't know what the FBI has taken and where it's even going. This was when Tulsi Gabbard came down, uh, and she was right ahead of national intelligence and oversaw the carrying out of boxes from Georgia, from Fulton County. It's a motivating factor. For so many people across this state, we are the cradle of the civil rights movement in America. Uh, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was born right here in Georgia. John Lewis was my congressman. So Ambassador Young still walks amongst us. I was with him in church on Sunday. And what struck me when I saw Ambassador Andrew Young on Sunday, I I've never seen him become emotional speaking about voting. He became quite emotional twice. And I can only imagine it's because of all of the work that Ambassador Young and so many others put into trying to protect this sacred right to vote, to now see it being almost destroyed in, in real time is not just heartbreaking to Ambassador Young, but to so many people, even chatting with my mother, what struck me during the primary, uh, my 18 year old son was with her. He was voting for the first time that when my mother was 18, she didn't have the right to vote. Uh, she and her classmates over at the, uh, Atlanta University Center were fighting for their right to vote. And to see my 18 year old son, who is now a college student facing many of those same headwinds is, is, um, it's unbelievable in many ways, but it has given people a resolve to show up and vote. We saw it in May in Georgia, we broke records in May, over a million people voted in early voting on the democratic side. We outvoted Republicans by 150,000 votes, even though we were outspent by over a hundred million dollars. Okay. So doesn't it, I don't want to overstress this, but the Fannie Willis of it all, and the fact that she was disqualified from such an important election, she was disqualified from such an important election. Because she had an affair with someone she brought in to help her on the case. It just seems like terrible leadership. Well, you know, I know Fannie to just be a tremendous leader and somebody who has always fought on behalf of, uh, people across this County. Um, I knew her when she was in private practice, she served as a judge. Um, my personal opinion is that there were you, there was a comparison of apples and oranges, but again, you know, I've been focused on my race, judicial, uh, system made a decision on that. Um, but I think everybody, uh, should have had an opportunity for, for that case to see that case play out in the way that it should have in our court system. And it didn't. So we just have to move forward and reminding people to show up and vote. If you were displeased with Donald Trump, um, when he tells you, imagine that he is going to be on the ballot, then pretend that he's on the ballot when you go in and, and, and vote for people who are not aligned with his policies. Unlike the guy who I'm running against, who says there's not a single policy, a single thing that he disagrees with Trump on. He says he wants to be Trump's favorite governor. He wants to be Trump with a Southern tone. If you like the support of a sports bra, but hate wearing one all day, I know exactly what you mean. Most of them feel great for a workout, but after a few hours later, the straps dig in the band gets uncomfortable and you're ready to struggle to take it off. The honey love cross flex activity bra completely changed that for me because it's got the support of a sports bra, but it's designed to be comfortable all day. It's wireless. So there's no poking or digging and it actually gives you the shape and strength to be comfortable all day. And it's designed to be comfortable all day. The separation instead of the dreaded uniboob and the hook and I means you don't have to wrestle it over your head, which is what I hate about sports bras. 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I was less clear about what the Democrat solutions are for things like the stalemate in Iran. I understand the sort of uniformity and unifying anti Trump. And it may be that that that is enough. But I was curious to know what is the Democrats answer to how you end the standoff in Iran? Well, if we have been calling that whole ballot energy in Georgia, so of course, we want people to vote for Senator Ossoff to vote for me, but also to vote all the way down the ballot to make sure that we are electing people to Congress who will hold Donald Trump accountable. We know that this war in Iran has had a tremendous impact on people across this country. I'm seeing gas prices I've never seen before in my lifetime. I was at a gas station yesterday. Of course, diesel is well over $6 a gallon of regular unleaded gallon of gas at the gas station I was standing in front of yesterday was $4 and 59 cents. This is a direct result of that war. We also know that what's happening in the street is impacting our farmers. Fertilizer has to come right through that narrow street. So it's not just about gas. It's just about the disruptions that Trump is creating in our economy and a global economy. So we want people to be elected to Congress, who will not be afraid to stand up and who will hold he and his entire administration accountable. When they are doing unlawful things like getting us into a war that he didn't have congressional approval of for us to embark upon. So I understand the holding him to account. But what is the Democrats solve for what's happening with Iran? Because it may take some time to hold him account. But in the meantime, the war presumably continues. The price of gas presumably stays high. What's the policy for how you end this war, which I understand Trump completely started, but you may well be left with the Detroit of that policy? So, you know, of course, I'm focused on running a race in Georgia, so I can't begin to speak for all of our congressional leaders. But I would assume that when you are able to flip the House, when we are able to flip the Senate, that there will be hearings held, that there will be discussions held holding his cabinet accountable for the actions that they have taken, that there will be discussions around funding sources to even continue this war that's cost the American people billions upon billions of dollars and to hold Trump responsible for this. This is an unlawful war. You've got Democrats and Republicans saying that there needs to be an end in sight for this war. He's not offering that, but it's going to Democrats being able to take back the House and to be able to take the Senate for us to have some real teeth to take action in Washington, D.C. And it begins simply by people showing up to vote. Plain and simple. Early voting starts in Georgia, October 13th. Okay. So if anybody's listening and they're in Georgia, October the 13th. So where would you put the Democrats' chances right now in the Senate? Let's start with the House. I think they are pretty darn strong, actually. And I'm not giving up on the Senate in the same way I'm not giving up on our state House and state Senate in Georgia. There is a real discontent happening in this country. And it's not just Democrats who are upset with what's happening in Washington, D.C. and what's happening. There are Republicans who are upset. There are independent voters who are upset, who want a real change in the direction of this country. They want a real change in the direction of Georgia. People are hurting. The one issue that I didn't even need a polling source to tell me about that was so important is this cost of living issue. And that cost of living issue can be directly traced back to policies from the Trump administration. Right here in Georgia, we've had $200 million plus cut from our education department. Centers for Disease Control is based right here in Georgia. It's been decimated. That funding normally goes to counties and cities to help fund public health, to help fund things like mobile mammogram clinics that often service our rural communities, which, by the way, I spoke with the woman who said her funding had been cut so 10,000 women weren't receiving a mammogram and the appropriate follow-up care. This is a story that's being told across the country. Then you add on top of that gas prices. Then you add on top of that grocery prices. So in the course of our campaign, we have offered real solutions. I've offered a solution for eliminating the grocery tax in Georgia. I offered a solution to reduce automobile insurance in this state. We're going to be doing something very soon on homeowners insurance. So we're listening, offering real solutions, whether it be from housing to healthcare. And that's a story that's being told across the country. So what do you think the Democrats missed in 2024 when Trump got reelected? It wasn't like he wasn't familiar to voters. They knew who he was. And yet he carried all seven swing states. What was it that the Democrats didn't realize or didn't understand about his appeal? You know, I can't speak for all of the American people who decided to vote for Trump. I can only assume that they wanted a different direction. And whatever it was that he was selling wasn't what the people got in return. So as someone who didn't vote for him, who had a very long memory of what his leadership meant to so many of us in the Trump 1.0, there was not a set of circumstances that he was going to ever receive my vote because I was mayor of Atlanta when he was in the White House. And I know how disruptive he was to leaders across the country. I know how disruptive he was to our economy. I know how disruptive he was even when we were navigating a pandemic with him standing in front of the microphone telling people to inject themselves with bleach. So I can't speak to people who didn't vote for him. I can't speak to people who didn't vote for him. I can't speak to remember that and decided to give him another chance. But right now I'm just focused on what I can do and how I will deliver, God willing, when I'm elected governor and reminding people I was willing to stand up to that White House the first time around and I'm willing to do it again. So you really came onto the national scene, as you say, when Trump was in power. You were the leader of dealing with the riots. We played a clip at the top of the show of you saying to people, go home, go home. This is not how you behave in a democracy. It had incredible impact, I think, across the country. There's been, I think it's fair to say, a sort of civil war within the Democratic Party between the moderate wing and the progressive wing. Where do you think the party is and possibly to Republican voters? And the reason I ask is because there's so much confidence that the Democrats are going to win the House, that they're going to win the Senate. And I feel like we've seen this confidence from the party before. We saw it in 2016. We saw it in 2024. And I just wonder if despite Trump's mishandling of various situations, the Democrats are actually going to be overconfident. Well, I can certainly tell you I'm not being overconfident. We're going to run through the tape. It's the reason that we're asking people to support our campaign, even if it's with $5, $1, $3. You could do that at KeishaForGovernor.com, by the way. But we are taking our message straight to the voters. So we're not taking anything for granted. Everybody has to stand on their own two feet when it comes to voting. It comes to putting your name on the ballot. And just in terms of who we are as a party, you know, I mean, different things appeal to different people. We're not a monolith. I am a very moderate Democrat, unapologetically so. But whether it's an extreme on the right or an extreme on the left, you've got to listen and see what the complaints are and determine if these gripes are reasonable. And if there's something and still standing in your truth, which for me is as a moderate Democrat, you know, what is it that people are saying that they truly are concerned about? What is it that they are saying that they want solutions to? Our answers and the way we get there may not be a one size fits all. But when people say they are deeply concerned about the cost of living and access to housing and jobs and mental health care, et cetera, you know, you've got to listen no matter who's saying it. Breathe in. 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He was able to break through the noise, manipulate the facts, and give out a lot of information that created a narrative that was difficult to push back against once that narrative had set in in people's minds. That being said, so many people across the country, I think so many people across the country, I think so many people realize it was just that. It was just chatter. It was just savvy marketing. It was not grounded in truth. I woke up this morning and headed straight to a union hall to talk to a room full of union representatives about making sure that people are trained for some of these great paying jobs in our state. So, you know, I think the lessons learned is that you've got to be a marketer. You've got to make sure that your marketing is as savvy as his and that That he and whomever else is following him doesn't have the opportunity to define candidates across this country before we have the opportunity to define ourselves. So tell us a bit more about Rick Jackson as a businessman. This is a man who's made his money based on a broken health care system in Georgia. In 2020, when so many people were fighting for their lives across the world, he received a no-bid contract for his health care staffing company. That contract has been extended each year. That contract was over $700 million alone. This is a guy who says he was going to unline all of his business dealings in Georgia if he were elected. And he just extended one of those contracts well into 2027. And this guy, and these are facts. This is not something I'm making up. These are facts and on the public record. One of his companies paid a settlement of $3 million because he was bringing in nurses from out of the country. When these nurses wanted to end their contracts with his staffing company, he threatened to report them to ICE and to have them deported. They accused him of human trafficking and said that they were. Being treated as indentured servants. In another settlement, one of his companies paid a settlement of $2 million because he didn't pay nurses overtime. This is a guy who is in battle right now with one of his companies in Bowie, Texas, for a data center that is being built. He owns and invests data centers. The community is saying we don't want it in our backyard. He also has a petroleum company that he invests in. Right now, selling diesel fuel to India as farmers in Georgia are struggling to pay more than $6 a gallon. He also had an agreement with the hospital in Alabama because Alabama has not expanded Medicaid. This hospital was about to go under. He extended a loan to this hospital that he called Venture Philanthropy. We call it Vulture Philanthropy with a 14 to 19% interest rate. This is a guy when he says he wants to be Donald Trump. In many ways, he already is Donald Trump. So when you're defining yourself against Rick Jackson, what are the things that you want people to know about your campaign? And how are you able to counter the impact on advertising in your state? Well, I've seen this great social media campaign going up right now where people are saying, let's make our own commercials. Alicia may not have all the money, but we can make our own commercials. It's that type of organic energy that really has been the fuel to our campaign. And that's been pushing out facts. So, so many of his commercials, again, he is a Donald Trump wannabe. When Trump came to Georgia last, Rick Jackson even dressed just like him. Same shade of blue suit with a red tie. He looked like my kids on Easter. I would try and match up their outfits so the pictures would be cute. So he very much wants to be Trump. Many of his ads are misleading. They are full of untruths. But organically, people are saying, I don't believe it. These are the facts. Let's talk about the things that she was able to accomplish as a leader. Let's talk about what she's saying she'll be able to deliver if she's elected governor. And that This megaphone, in my opinion, is much louder than the megaphone of $100 million ad buy. This guy's put up $87 million on television alone. The largest TV buy in the history of Georgia. And that's not to count all of the negative digital and the negative mailers. And again, we are tied in this race. So I'm reminding people, this billionaire may have the money, but people still have the power. And we're seeing people exercise that power. So Ken Paxton, the Republican candidate who's backed by Trump for Senate in Texas, was caught on a hot mic saying that the Trumpapalooza, the RNC midterm, as it were, actually was harmful for Republicans. If Trump turns up tomorrow, is that a good thing or a bad thing for Rick Jackson? I would love nothing more than for Donald Trump to come back to Georgia. We were probably able to cut seven commercials just from his one visit because he very truthfully, you know, gave us nuggets. This guy gave me $2 million doing his primary. This, you know, and Rick Jackson stood beside him and said, I want to be his favorite governor. I'm going to be just like Trump. And what's interesting is he now wants to run away from all of these things. But the truth of the matter is that he wants to give Trump a stronghold in Georgia in the way that Trump has a stronghold across the country. And the front line right now, because Democrats don't control Congress, our front line of defense has had had come from governors across this country who have been willing to push back. I was with Governor Andy Beshear just last night. I, you know, we've got people that I didn't go down the whole list, but governors have been pushing back. When he refused to extend the SNAP benefits, there were governors who stood in and said, our children should be able to eat during the government shutdown. There are governors who are standing in when Trump has said, you know, I'm gutting the federal workforce. So we are reminding people that governors have a lot of power. And especially in this moment, we've got to be able to exercise that power until stability comes back to the White House. So you've been a mayor. You've worked in the White House. You worked as an advisor for Joe Biden when you finished your first term as mayor in Atlanta. And now you're running for governor. Which part of government do you think is actually the most effective? Well, you know, I always believe the closer you are to the ground, the more people feel it. I remember the first time I met President Biden. He was then vice president. I was a member of the Atlanta City Council. And he said, that's the hardest job in government. And I said, harder than being vice president? He said, yes. I said, why is that? He said, because everybody knows where you live. But they, all of these offices are interconnected. So even, for example, when federal dollars come into the state, it's often the governor that helps determine which counties and which cities get that federal funding. So, you know, it's a body that needs all the limbs to work together. You know, whether it's the Board of Education, whether it's the city council or a county commission or the state legislature or the governor, we all need each other in order for us to be successful. Fox One has your front row seat to live NFL action. The biggest rivalries, the biggest hits. America's Game of the Week. From the opening kickoff to the final drive, catch every game-changing play as it happens. Go beyond the box score with highlights, interviews and expert analysis you won't find anywhere else. At home or on the go, live or on demand. The NFL on Fox is streaming live on Fox One. Download the app today. When you were working at the White House, did you see signs of Joe Biden failing? Never. Never once. In fact, I was looking at a picture a couple of days ago of us. We had just come back from a day-long trip to Arizona, I believe it was. It was the day of the midterm elections. And he was on the phone with Senator Warnock congratulating him on winning one of the many elections that he was on the ballot for. And I came in and kind of photobombed the moment, didn't realize they were filming. And the president gave me a really big hug and he looked at me and said go home and get some rest because I was pretty wiped out after a day-long trip to Arizona. And he was still going very strong and that was always my experience with him. I never saw him in any diminished way or never had any concerns about his ability to effectively lead. Did you think he should have run for a second term? That was his decision to make and and you know, he was the people had an opportunity to say otherwise. During the primary season and the people did not. So when he was our nominee, I was very proud to support him in the same way. I was proud. to support Kamala Harris when she became our nominee. So the people had an opportunity to weigh in and the people said that they wanted Joe Biden to be the Democratic nominee. So it's very clear that Kamala Harris is going to run again for president. Do you think that she could win? You know, I am focused, Joanna, honestly, on what's happening with my race. I've not given any thought to what's happening with or what may happen in 2028. I'm focused on the people of Georgia and how I can be elected governor and how I can help lift up our entire ballot. We've got some closely contested races. There's a real opportunity for us to take the House. We've got to send Senator Ossoff back and we can turn the corner on all of our constitutional offices in the state. So that's where my focus is. 2028 will come soon enough. But right now, we need to win in 2026. OK, well, Senator Ossoff is obviously also being talked of as someone who's going to run in the presidential race. Who among your Democratic colleagues do you think would make a good, you know, first five or first 10 candidates for president? I think anybody whose name is. Is being mentioned will run circles around Donald Trump and any other Republican that has stood by his side in this moment and has taken this country backwards. So, you know, I'm not going to get into the guessing game. I don't know who's going to run and I don't know what their platforms will be. But I know we, based on the names that I have heard, we have an embarrassment of riches when it comes to who could be our next president. I don't know who's going to be our next president. I just want to make sure we have a strong partner in the White House who is willing to work with me, God willing, as governor of this state to be able to deliver for the people of Georgia. Because, again, I go back to when Donald Trump was president, the Trump 1.0, he gave leaders hell across this nation. Targeting leaders, calling leaders out by name, even this Trump 2.0. I know he's weaponized tragedies. He's withheld money from communities in blue states that have experienced natural disasters. I know when I sat in the White House, there was never a conversation when there was any type of natural disaster of whether or not the person, we were sending that to a red or blue state. It was always who needs help and how can we deliver. And that's sorely missing with the president. So, you mentioned earlier that health cuts in Georgia meant that 10,000 women had been prevented from getting mammograms and getting the follow-up care. Can you just give us a rundown of where access to contraception and access to reproductive care stands in Georgia right now? Georgia has a six-week abortion ban, and it has caused women in this state to die. And I remind people. And I remind people that this six-week abortion ban doesn't just impact women who want to terminate a pregnancy. This impacts women who are experiencing a miscarriage or complications from a miscarriage or an abortion. I was with a doctor in Columbus, Georgia, who shared that he, and you could see the angst on his face. He said the day before, there was a woman who was experiencing a miscarriage. There was one standard. He said there was no care that he would have given pre-DOPS decision and another standard that he had given because of the DOPS decision. In his words, he said, I had to make a decision between my livelihood and my freedom, and I chose my freedom. Now, for any person who, any woman who's experienced a miscarriage or been in the presence of a woman who's experienced that, it's not just the physical pain of it all. It's also the emotional toll and then the dangers that come along with a pregnancy that is not viable. So this is what's on the ballot in Georgia. And it is an opportunity for us to turn the corner in this state, to reverse that six-week abortion ban and take us back to those standards of role that were the law of the land for just about my entire life. And giving women the opportunity to have autonomy over their own body, the ability to make decisions with their doctor and not with the government and politicians and the Supreme Court in the room with them. Does this crop up as a subject that voters are concerned about, or is it mainly they're leading the conversation with affordability, gas prices, grocery prices, lack of housing? I can tell you right now, it's the. The affordability issue is the number one topic. And it's not that this is not an important topic. It's an extremely important topic when you're talking about reproductive freedom, but there are so many things that people are dealing with on a daily basis. Not being able to afford groceries, not being able to afford healthcare because we've not expanded Medicaid in this state, not being able to put gas in their car. These are issues that people are dealing with daily. So people are deeply concerned about reproductive issues. It's just that the cost of living seems to be overshadowing everything. And one thing we didn't talk about was healthcare. In Georgia, Georgia is one of 10 states that's not expanded Medicaid. So we had 300,000 people who didn't have healthcare coverage because we've not expanded Medicaid. January, after the big uptick in healthcare coverage, we had 300,000 people who didn't have healthcare coverage because we've not expanded Medicaid. January, after the big ugly bill, 600,000 people since then have dropped their healthcare because they can't afford it because the subsidies were not extended. So these are the things that people are feeling the pinch on every single day. 600,000 people without healthcare in Georgia. In a state that is the number one state to do business that we have nearly a million people who could have healthcare. And we've also not talked about education. We have not properly funded education in this state in decades. So what I've said repeatedly, if we can be the number one state in the country for doing business, then we certainly can be number one in healthcare and education. Well, Mayor Lance Bottoms, good luck with your run. I'm fascinated by the groundswell of, people saying, well, we're going to make ads for you because you don't have access to a billionaire's pocketbook like your opponent, Rick Jackson. Thank you very much for your time. We'll look forward to the results of your race. Thank you. Well, as you can see, it's a very tight race. Will she pull it off? Will people remember that amazing speech that she made? During the riots in Atlanta, when she reminded Georgians that this was not the way to honor Martin Luther King, their fellow Georgian, but to go home and to vote in the upcoming elections. Well, we'll be monitoring this space and we'll be back to you with those results. Until then, if you have been, thank you for joining us. And I'll be back tomorrow with David Rothkopf. In the meantime, a big thanks to our production team, Ryan Murray, John Romero, Rachel Passer, Heather Persaud. and Neil Rosenhaus. So the good news is we have so many B-Beast tier members now. There are too many names to read out. And we really appreciate your support. Hey, Ryan Reynolds here from Mint Mobile. Now, I don't know if you've heard, but Mint's premium wireless is $15 a month. But I'd like to offer one other perk. We have no stores. That means no small talk. 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