“THINKS He’s Muhammad Ali!” Daniel Dubois vs Fabio Wardley In FACE-OFF Before Heavyweight Rematch
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Daniel Dubois and Fabio Wardley are set to rematch at the O2 in London, following a fiercely intense and violent first encounter five months prior. Both fighters demonstrate deep respect and resilience, crediting each other’s physical and mental toughness despite the brutal nature of their fight. Daniel, a former recruitment consultant and now a father, sees boxing as both a career and an art form, with a personal touch through his love of music and art—particularly playing the harp. Fabio, also a father, reflects on how fatherhood has brought balance and new dimensions to his life. The rematch is viewed as a personal journey: Daniel aims to capitalize on his first loss, while Fabio remains unshaken in his belief in his own strength. The dialogue highlights the emotional and physical toll of professional boxing, with both men acknowledging the risks and the need for mental preparation. The fight is expected to be a high-impact spectacle, live-streamed on DAZN, and seen as a continuation of their legendary clash. Interwoven with this are personal stories—Hank’s savings journey at BJ’s Wholesale Club, where he saves 25% on groceries, symbolizing everyday value and financial savvy. The hosts emphasize that life is unpredictable, and that pivotal moments—like a phone call to start boxing—can drastically change one’s path. Ultimately, the episode blends boxing drama with personal growth, fatherhood, and art, portraying the fighters not just as warriors, but as complex, human beings navigating success, resilience, and legacy.
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Just noticed your knuckles.
What about them?
They're like, like they've been hitting a lot of things recently.
Yeah.
He can't punch.
He punches like a baby.
Yeah, it's easy.
I'm going to beat him like I'm his daddy, that's for sure.
Really?
Yeah.
If I hit like a baby and you went down off those punches,
then what does that say about your chin?
Slipped.
Slipped?
Yeah, man.
Plays the harp as well.
He plays the harp?
Dabbled in it, yeah.
You're quite a sensitive little solver.
100%.
And James?
Well, trying.
A little angel with your heart.
Yeah, a demon and an angel.
Yeah, when you're not smacking seven bells at him.
Fabio, I'm going to show you a picture of your own head.
It's a battle we're going to fight.
There's that respect amongst warriors.
When he does that, does it not have the same effect on you as it does on me?
It's a little bit scary.
That's why his hands are a bit messed up,
because he's just constantly going at it himself.
Shake hands?
I'm not shaking his hand.
Don't make this a problem,
because it's not.
Well, the last time my next two guests faced off in the ring,
they delivered an unforgettable night of, well,
frankly, violent chaos.
And everyone loved it.
Daniel Dubois will defend his WBO2 world title
against Fabio Wardley in London on Saturday night.
It's set to be one of the sequels possibly of all time.
You can watch it live and exclusive on DAZN.
I know I will be.
And I'm delighted to say that both of them are here
in the Uncensored studio.
Daniel, we're old muckers.
From a previous interview, Fabio,
I met you for the first time a few minutes ago.
Really fascinated by the dynamic between you two,
because that was a war, what happened
between you two in that ring.
When you go through a war like that in a boxing ring,
and then you have to sit this close to each other
on the verge of getting back in that ring,
what is that feeling like?
Fabio, let me start with you.
I guess for myself personally, at least the way
I feel about it, it's easier, because you've gone through
that level of aggression, animosity, back and forth,
and you can't help but come out with it with a level
of respect for the other person.
You can't go through an occasion like that,
that level of back and forth, grip resilience shown
on both sides, and then not have a level of respect
from the man to the side of you.
You banged him over in 10 seconds in round one.
I remember watching you going,
holy shit, what's just happened?
And he got back.
And then he banged him over again.
And he got back up again.
And then he beat you.
Does not part of you look at him and go,
have I got a punch that can knock him out?
No, not at all.
Because I'm very confident in my own abilities.
My record speaks for itself.
Having a 95% KO ratio, I get people out of there.
That is the job I do.
And again, the proof's in the pudding.
I was able to get him down twice in the fight.
And with both of those shots, they didn't land particularly clean.
They weren't thrown particularly nicely.
They cuffed the top of his head.
We're going to look at a few little highlights here.
And as you look through them, you can see that, look,
they, not to say they're a whisker,
but they definitely don't land clean.
Especially, is this the first round?
Again, quite high on top of his head.
And still manages to get him down.
And then again, the third one, or that one was something else.
Basically, you forgot what sport you were playing.
Yeah, someone forgot what game.
It was a good bit of UFC wrestling going on.
But, I mean, I just remember watching it live and thinking,
my God, you guys, A, it was an incredible fight.
B, like I said, it became like a boxing war.
Two incredible warriors.
Daniel, obvious question, how the hell did you keep getting back up?
It's what we do, man.
It's what we do.
What were you thinking in round one when you were down?
Nothing.
It was just a slight tap.
I didn't feel no pain.
No?
I didn't feel a punch.
Did you the second time?
No.
He can't punch.
Really?
He can't punch, no.
I just kept going for him and breaking him down.
He looks to me like he can punch.
He can't punch.
Really?
Yeah, it's easy.
Really?
Yeah.
Fabio, you're going to get beaten like a daddy?
Yeah, apparently.
Or by a daddy, because you're a big baby.
Yeah, it's a previous line he's used already with Darrell Miller.
Who has the nickname Big Baby.
So there, it kind of fit a bit.
Here, I don't know if it's hitting the same.
That, along with literal evidence and footage that he got knocked down twice in the fight,
then to say, I don't hit hard or I hit like a baby.
If anything, it doesn't work out well for him.
Because if I hit like a baby and you went down off those punches,
then what does that say about your shin?
Slipped.
Slipped?
Yeah, man.
You can't punch.
What is it?
I've only been hit by Jeremy Clifton.
I've been hit by Jeremy Clarkson and a couple of oiks at my comprehensive school when I was a kid.
And my brother, so it doesn't really count, because that's just part of growing up.
And all I remember is, oddly, when you get punched, whoever it is,
it doesn't really hurt in the moment.
Is it the same at your level or not?
That's a weird thing to say, but I don't remember it really hurting as the punches were landing.
It hurt afterwards, but not in the moment, because the adrenaline was so firing.
Yeah, you're pumping.
Is it like that for you guys?
But you feel immediately?
Is it searing pain or not?
No, especially not in the moment, in the occasion.
It's not like you take a big shot and you're stopping for a second going, oh, that hurt.
Like, I've stepped on plugs and you've got a bigger reaction out of me rather than I have in fights and stuff.
So on the night, on the occasion, the adrenaline's pumping.
You've also trained, and in a weird way, all the sparring you've done has conditioned you, in a sense, to take punches as well.
So you build a level of resilience to it.
When you lose, Fabio, a fight like that, it must take a lot out of you, both physically, mentally.
We're only five months later.
Has it come too soon, this rematch?
No.
Are you concerned about that?
No, not in the slightest.
I've had big fights, big wars, blood, guts, the rest of it, and then had a quick turnaround and got the win and done the job and ticked it off in similar fashion.
Well, the O2, I mean, you fought Fraser Clark there in 2024.
You said afterwards, "The O2 arena will always have a piece of my soul.
I left a little bit of me in that ring."
How much soul do you have left for Daniel on Saturday in the same arena?
No, I've got a whole lot.
I've got a whole lot of soul definitely left in me, and especially in the O2 arena.
For me, a home away from home, somewhere I've boxed, I think I'm close to near on double figures, so it feels like my home ground.
It feels like home advantage, feels like my home stadium almost.
So it's not, I'm not.
I'm perfectly used to getting stuck into a war, maybe not going my way, like the fight you referenced with the Fraser Clark one.
That ended up in a draw, and then I came back around, made the right adjustments, ended it in the first round.
Daniel, last time I spoke to you, you were about to fight Uziq, and you lost.
No shame in that.
He's one of the great champions in history.
You said afterwards, "I was pretty overweight."
This is after the last fight you guys had.
I didn't even train that hard for that fight.
Have you trained hard for this fight?
Yeah, let's hope so.
I've worked really hard.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Got in camp really quickly.
You're taking it more seriously this time?
Yeah.
Why didn't you the first time?
I took it seriously the first time, but at this time I know what to expect, so I'm prepared, man.
Derek Chisora said about you, "I think this is Wardley's last fight. I don't think he wants to box anymore. This is his cash out."
Yeah.
I think he's made a few comments.
He's made a few comments of that lately, saying, "This is probably me. I'm going to retire," and so on and so forth, just because he's seen me do a few other things aside from boxing, a few bit of media works and things.
Could this be your last fight?
Not at all.
What if he knocks you out?
There's no bearing on me, on my career whatsoever.
In terms of me progressing forward and still carrying on, he's got three losses on his record.
He hasn't stopped.
Derek Chisora practically made a career out of losing.
He's still going.
Yeah.
He quote, unquote, "retires," and then there's talks of him doing the fight with Gassiev.
So, no, look, a loss is never great.
It's never what we aim for as fighters, as boxers, but by no means at all is it ever going to put a stop to my career, not at this time.
Daniel, what's the game plan for you if you win on Saturday?
What's the big dream left for you?
Well, there's plenty left, you know?
What's the big dream?
I could say to you right now, I could make—
Anything happen in your career, tell me what that looks like.
Yeah, well, you've got the belts, you've got a few things, I think.
I just like to visualize myself as just starting out again.
This is the beginning.
This is like my beginning of my career again, and that's the way I see it.
I look at it, fresh start.
Let's pick up where we left off.
Let's pick up more belts.
Let's get more glory, you know?
You've got Tyson Fury fighting Anthony Joshua.
Joshua, would you like to, if you win. Would you like to fight the winner of that?
Of course.
Of course.
You reckon you could beat him?
Of course.
Yeah, definitely.
I'll take him to school, man.
I'm ready for it.
You feel the same way, if you've got the chance?
Yeah, look, there's a slight complication with me.
Me and AJ have got the same trainer.
He's returned back to Ben Davison.
The same guy on my corner as well.
So, depending on how that fight goes. Would you be allowed to fight him?
Look, we as boxers are autonomous.
We can do whatever we like, but it adds a bit of complication.
So, that might be a spanner in the works to things.
But if Fury comes through, then yeah, of course.
You're quite an interesting story.
I mean, when you were 22 years old,
you were working as a recruitment consultant in an Ipswich office
and playing football at the weekends.
You're a big Ipswich fan.
And you decided to go and have a bit of a boxing session in a gym.
Four white-collar fights later,
and you thought, I'm going to turn pro.
It's a bit like Rocky Balboa.
I mean, if it hadn't gone that way, if it hadn't gone to the gym,
you'd probably still be in the office.
What were you doing? Recruiting?
Yeah, literally, I was recruiting.
I was in recruitment consultancy for health and social care.
So, social workers up and down the country
and recruiting them for agency work and finding them short-term roles.
And I was in the office like your standard nine-to-five-er,
clocking in, clocking out, making sales calls and pitching
and doing all the rest of it.
Did you miss those days?
No.
Don't get me wrong.
That job was pretty fun for that juncture, that part of my life.
But it has nothing on where I'm at now and my career path now.
You said at points, if you hadn't gone to boxing,
you were at points of being arrested, involved in a world
that would have gone in a different direction.
What did you mean by that?
Yeah, look, I'm not going to. I'm not going to play on some long-winded story
or try and play that I was set to be the next biggest criminal in the world.
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or making just some of the best decisions I could have.
And yeah, look, life's a very funny thing.
It can very easily go left or it can very easily go right.
And it was a phone call that took me to boxing.
If I had a. If I had not decided to make that phone call
and gone a different way,
I could have ended up in a very different place.
Who knows?
But again, thankfully, I found boxing
and I've committed and loved the sport
and powered my way through, so. As you're listening to this, you're just doing this, I've noticed.
Yeah.
Like, you don't really want to either be here doing this crap,
listening to his crap, any of it.
You just want to get in that ring and start punching him in the head.
Is that what you're. Is that what you're feeling?
Well, that's what I'm trained for.
I mean, it must be a weird. You're in fight week.
Is that why. I just noticed you were instinctively doing that.
Yeah, yeah.
Are you just in twitchy mode now?
You want to get it on?
A little bit.
A little bit.
Bring the chaos.
That's what I'm ready to do.
Can you sit. I mean, you're being reasonably friendly with each other,
but is that how you're feeling at the moment?
I wouldn't. It didn't matter.
Whoever I was fighting, I'm just solely focused on Saturday, you know?
You're going to be punching him in the head on Saturday.
That's right.
And he'll be punching you in the head.
Yeah.
It's a weird thing.
I don't normally interview people who I know in a few days
will be punching Seven Belzer.
I'm a fighting man.
I'll do this, you know, my whole life.
So I'm born and bred into this game.
This is what I was born to do.
And I'm here now and I'm ready to take over.
This is why I've never gone into boxing.
I'm just too pretty.
But, I mean. I've had prettier days.
That's what Daniel Dubois did to you.
And. Does that not give you pause for thought?
No, not at all.
He's a very powerful guy.
Yeah, no, look, he is a big, strong guy.
Powerful.
There's also. You can pull up clips of him on the floor.
The game's the game.
Like, you make your peace with it very much at the beginning of,
yeah, look, you're going to get a few cuts and bruises along the way.
I don't know of many heavyweights that get through this game
entirely unscathed without a picture like that.
Or, at least if they have,
they haven't been testing themselves at the top level
with some of the best.
I think a lot of people skip over the fact
the first time around,
I had my pick of the litter in terms of
I had a voluntary choice of who I wanted to fight.
And I picked Daniel.
I asked for him.
I asked for that name.
Out of the choice of,
I want to test myself against the best people out there.
You think he's one of the best?
He is definitely one of the best, yeah.
He's at the top of the tree.
Definitely one of.
There's other names up there as well.
But I thought the best fight out there,
especially in terms of UK audience
and the kind of, not to say battle for Britain,
because that's doing. It's doing its own thing in a few months' time.
But especially of this new school, new generation,
who's the one that's going to take the crown?
And I wanted to take him out along the way.
And I wasn't successful, first attempt,
but don't worry, we've got one more.
I interviewed Mike Tyson last week.
I've interviewed him many times over the years.
I find him completely fascinating.
And I said, you know, peak Tyson. He said Muhammad Ali was the greatest
everweight there's ever been.
And I said, you know, peak Tyson v. Muhammad Ali.
Tyson before he went into prison
was the most ferocious thing I've ever seen in the ring.
Who do you think is genuinely
the greatest heavyweight there's ever been?
And if Tyson fought Ali both at their peak,
who would win?
I like Tyson a lot.
Grew up watching Tyson like crazy.
But Muhammad Ali will be a legend forever.
He's just that step above.
But I couldn't say who'd win a fight,
but two great fighters that I've learned a lot from
and I tried.
The young me was like heavy into Mike Tyson.
I mean, the thing is, Babia,
when Ali fought George Foreman,
everyone thought Foreman would destroy him,
as he had done Joe Frazier and others.
And Ali played the rope-a-dope out of nowhere,
which no one was expecting.
Everyone thought he'd lost his mind.
And in the eighth round, it was,
is that all you got, George?
Bang, bang, bang.
Knocked him out.
One of the greatest wins,
probably the greatest win I've ever seen in boxing.
Tyson's argument was, Mike Tyson,
that however good he was,
and obviously Mike Tyson was sensational,
that Ali would work out a plan for him,
that he was the smartest of all of the boxers.
What do you feel about that debate
about who the greatest is?
Yeah, look, and that is definitely,
don't get me wrong,
Tyson is a very well-scored man.
And that is part of the game.
You can have all the brawn in the world,
you can have all the muscles,
but if you don't have the right head on your shoulders,
the right game plan,
the smallest person can unravel you.
Or can figure you out,
or can come up with a solution to knock you out,
stop you, beat you, defeat you in any way which possible.
Your mum was ringside.
She was, as always.
Will she be there on Saturday?
She will.
This is Shawnee Lee.
How does she feel about you getting back in with this guy?
She was, my mum was one of the first people on the phone
to say, we're doing this again, aren't we?
Really?
Yeah, because my mum definitely feels a sense of. My mother pulled me off a Mohican game.
A guy with a Mohican.
When was this?
I was about 14, 15.
I'd gone from a prep school, private prep school,
to the comprehensive.
So the local skinheads are all salivating at the thought
of punching me back into the real world.
And we got off the school bus and this Mohican guy was boxing me.
He was a trained boxer.
He was all. My mother runs out of the house, comes and pulls us off each other.
And she said, you're never doing this again.
So I had the opposite advice of my mother.
She said, you're never doing this again.
Which is why I'm not in the ring.
But that's interesting.
She doesn't mind the fact you're going to get back in with this guy that beat you.
No, not at all.
Because she has all faith in me as well.
She has all faith in me to go get back what's mine.
And that's the belt.
And look, in the fight itself, I had early successes.
I was the one that made the mistakes.
I had it in the palm of my hands.
And I did let it slip.
And some things went wrong.
And those things we as a team have analysed.
And not to say necessarily they're easy to rectify.
But they are very obvious.
And they are very clear.
So implement the game plan on the night and get rid of him.
Daniel, you're an artist.
You love art.
Used to be.
But you love it.
Yeah, of course.
You see boxing and the boxing ring as a form of art.
Yeah.
Tell me about your love of art.
Where does that come from?
I think my dad used to trade artwork.
And so I was growing up around artwork.
Different styles, different pictures.
Many different varieties.
You paint?
Yeah, I've drawn and I've painted.
Really?
Yeah.
You don't do any more?
No, not so much.
Why not?
I paint on the cameras and the ring.
I paint on blood on the ring.
Do you see it that way?
Huh?
Yeah, yeah.
Boxing's an art.
Boxing's an art.
And I'm an artist.
You're going to paint a picture with his blood on it?
100%.
Really?
100%.
So you were quite nice about him.
He plays the harp?
Yeah, he plays the harp.
Really?
I've dabbled in it, yeah.
Really?
A harpist?
I've never had you down as a harpist, Daniel.
An artist.
- You know what the heart is?
Yeah, yeah.
Of course I know what a harp is.
Yeah, man.
I just can't imagine you playing one.
Yeah, they're in heaven, brother.
You're quite a sensitive little soloist.
Angelic.
Well, trying.
A little angel with your harp.
That's right.
See, Krillin, you play the harp.
Well, I have a go.
Wow.
I would have brought one in if I'd known.
I have a go.
Have you got one at home or not?
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
How often do you play it?
Well, I just, I have a go.
I haven't been up to it.
What sort of pieces do you do?
Just, I'm still learning, man.
Yeah?
So I just, yeah.
Do you have a favourite harp player?
Anyway, I've listened to various, but I like it.
You're a man of surprises, aren't you?
How do you square off being an artistic harpist
with being a heavyweight boxer?
It's all boxers, rhythm and music and everything.
It's just, it's all part of it, I think.
Do you guys, it's a question for both of you,
but do you ever worry about dying in the ring?
Does it ever cross your mind?
Boxers have died doing this.
This is not for the faint-hearted.
This is not for people who don't know what they're doing.
But I've been covering fights
where both fighters were taken to hospital
and they thought, you know, I remember the Nigel Benn fight.
I was there for that when they both got taken off.
Gerard McLennan, who ended up in a wheelchair.
It's a brutal sport.
Do you ever worry about that?
No, I don't.
I don't worry about it.
And that's not in a,
oh, I don't care for myself,
a lack of regard for my own health way.
It's just that that aspect of it
is something you need to make peace with
long before you ever get in the ring
or long before even you ever lace up a pair of gloves, really.
Because, yes, it can happen in professional boxing.
It can happen in boxing at any level.
I started, like you said,
at the lowest of levels in white-collar boxing.
It can happen in that.
It can happen in amateur boxing and in professional boxing.
So for you to get into a ring unburdened,
you need to make peace with that a long, long, long time ago
and just a level of acceptance of it is what it is.
I can prepare myself as best as possible
and I can put myself in the best mind frame
and do all the right preparations,
but the coin may flip and it is what it is.
What do you feel, Daniel, about that?
No, I never worry.
I know I'm. I'm prepared and 100% ready for whatever comes.
I'm a warrior, so I'm just going to hunt them down.
You're also a father now since I last saw you.
How's that going?
Yes, it's all right.
What, did you have a little boy?
I don't want to talk about that.
OK.
Yeah.
Has it changed you?
Well, well. Without going into the details.
Yeah, we're still on the journey, yeah.
Do you feel different?
I remember I do when I became a father.
Yeah.
It changes your life.
Definitely.
You've got to think about other people.
Yeah, I've got to think about. Yeah, another one coming up.
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You got another one coming?
Maybe.
Have you?
Is that a scoop?
Another little Dubois?
Is there two?
Maybe.
Really?
Well, maybe.
It's either you have or you haven't, Daniel.
I mean, I don't want to get into a biology lesson with you,
but, eh?
So you have?
Nah.
Eh?
What's your question?
Was it breaking news?
Nah, nah.
Well, it is breaking news.
You just did talk about it.
Well, I didn't know you was going to ask me that.
I didn't know you was going to ask me that question.
Well, then you volunteered a scoop.
And I'm just, being a journalist, I have to obviously ask you.
All right.
It's the headline now.
Huh?
Yeah.
New Dubois are on the way.
How would you feel if one of your kids became a boxer?
Sorry?
How would you feel if one of your children became a boxer?
Well, um, that's another conversation.
I don't want to have that right now.
Have you thought about it, though?
I'd stay my way from it, but, yeah, let's see what comes.
The future holds.
Your dad, Stan, came in for a bit of flak after the Uzyk fight.
Reports that he hosted a party that delayed your arrival.
Is any of that true?
No, that wasn't a party.
We had a pre-fight gathering, but it wasn't a party.
So there was no issue as far as you're concerned with your dad?
No.
Because he also got criticised after the Uzyk fight
for being too involved coming between you and your trainer.
Not at all.
None of that's true?
You're very happy with your dad's. Why is the distance in a party and a gathering?
That's a good question.
What's your point? What's your point?
Oh, yeah, he's asked the question.
I was just wondering.
Well, um. Listen, just worry about Saturday.
Just worry about Saturday.
I don't want you guys asking, trying to dig up something.
That was gone. That's happened.
You know, I learnt from that experience.
We never. You know, it was just an experience, really.
What did you learn?
That, you know, don't carry dead bones.
Keep the team tight and keep the team. People that are useful and soldiers.
Dead bones? Have you got rid of some dead bones?
I hope so.
Clear the closet out.
Are we talking actual. We're not talking actual dead bones, are we?
Maybe.
Really?
I'm joking.
I'm joking, bro.
How many dead bones have you got rid of?
That's an evil grin, I've got to be honest.
Huh?
Dead bones?
No, mate.
Skeletons somewhere, or.?
No, it's just. Oh, but you mean dead wood?
Yeah.
Should we call it wood rather than bones?
Well, good at what you like.
But you've got rid of people that perhaps weren't helpful to the camp?
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
So you've got a tighter team around you?
For sure.
When you fight someone as good as Uziq,
I mean, I think one of the top three or four there's ever been.
I think he's fantastic.
Mentally so strong as well.
I've interviewed him a few times and he's just mentally strong.
What do you learn from finding somebody of that calibre?
I think I could have beaten.
There were some mistakes and things that just weren't clicking.
Now I'm looking back on it.
But I'm grateful for the lessons I've learned in the two fights with him.
I've gone on and done so much since then.
So, yeah, it's a great omen.
Great to share a ring with a legend like that.
Fabio, you're also a father.
I am.
It's okay, you can talk about it.
It's okay.
You're okay?
Yeah, yeah, it's all right.
Has it changed you?
Yeah.
Yeah, massively.
But in a different way than I probably was expecting.
I'm a father to a little girl,
which I think adds a different dynamic, especially.
So it's a nice. I've always found it. I'm second on the way out here.
I do.
You've got a lot in common.
I'm trying to keep up with Daniel.
I'm trying to keep up with him.
Again, I have another girl on the way.
I don't know about his circumstance,
but I'll be well and truly outnumbered.
Three to one in my household.
But, yeah, look, it's the best thing.
It genuinely is the best thing that's ever happened to me.
It's so much fun.
It's chaotic.
It's everything.
It's all the things.
And especially with boxing and how heavy and sometimes weighty
it can be to be able to walk through the door
and kind of drop your bag and just turn off that switch
and just be dad to a toddler or to a 16-month-old
who doesn't know you from Adam,
doesn't care that you're on Piers Morgan,
doesn't care you're on the TV.
They just want to throw their doll at you
and push their pram around and do whatever else.
That's the. It's the best break and little reset I've found in my life.
Just notice you're not. You've got knuckles.
What about them?
They're like. Like they've been hitting a lot of things recently.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just noticed.
Blessed be the Lord, my rock, which sheds my hands for war.
So. For war?
Yeah.
Is that how you feel?
Yeah, that's how I feel.
What are your knuckles like?
I look after mine.
Pedicure manis.
These are, like, properly, like, bruised.
He's been smashing a lot of stuff.
No, he's a serious guy.
He's probably punching walls.
Yeah.
Cream, sometimes a little hand massage.
You've got. They're serious tools.
You've got to look after them.
You can't just go battering them up.
Hand creams and things like that?
Hand cream, yeah.
You've got to be creamed up.
I can't be. You know about that.
I can't be coming on. You know about that.
You've been living a good life.
You had me at heart.
I had no idea I had a harpist coming in.
Yeah.
If you were, like, going to play him a song,
for Saturday,
if you were going to play him something for Saturday,
what would it be?
Not that good, bro.
But. Nah.
On your harp?
I'm not there yet.
No?
Can you play an instrument?
Piano.
Piano?
Yeah, a bit.
Oh, right.
Very delicate hands, mine.
Although, oddly,
here's a great fact for you guys.
I know for a fact
that I have exactly the same size hands
as two iconic people.
One is Mike Tyson,
because Turkey LR Shake,
took me to his gym in the desert
in Saudi and in his gym there he has handprints real-life size of every one
of the top fighters in the world including Tyson so I put my hands on
them they were exactly the same size and the other person was exactly the same
size hands as me and Mike Tyson because I put my hand on the other person's hand
when a magazine did their life-size hand for you to do that is Donald Trump so me
Trump and Mike Tyson how about that for a trivia question all have exactly the
same size hands isn't that weird and they're not even that big look Tyson's hands are
not that big you need big hands or not you don't need them Mike Tyson is
evident for that obviously but I at the similar one maybe one of the similar
events or whichever in in Riyadh I shook Larry Holmes's hands and it was like
both of mine put together really huge and obviously he was known for being
a big puncher so maybe maybe who knows you'd be you've been quite respectful of
each other I'd say there's obviously a simmering undercurrent because we know
what happened five months ago it was one of the most ferocious fights I've seen
and great to watch I mean it was an amazing spectacle and everyone hopes
we'll have the same again but that's down to you two in Daniel when you when
you look at this guy what's your message to him for Saturday no message just come
prepared
you're not looking at him I don't need to I'm ready for war on Saturday just
come prepared I'm I'm just focused on Saturday man let's you can look him in
the eye and tell him does it matter it just feels a bit like you don't want to
look him in the eye I don't mind looking him in the eye say it to his face you
say it me yeah I'll take care either of you mate what would you say oh fast times Morgan
I've been in the ring with you this way.
Viewers can Google it.
Do you want it, Morgan?
Do you want it?
I want it, Duval.
I want it, Duval.
Do you want it?
Let me just tell you.
If you watch a clip on Google, on YouTube,
you'll find a video footage of me fighting.
Who wants it?
I fight Manny Pacquiao in Freddie Roach's gym in LA.
Really?
And at one stage, as I warm up, I chin Freddie with a left hook.
You watch it.
It's all there.
Then I'll do one round with Manny.
And all right, he's good.
Don't get me wrong.
I was quick.
So you had a go then.
I'm never scared of anybody.
What's the worst that can happen?
That's right.
Other than you kill me.
That's how I feel about it.
What do you feel, Fabio?
Look him in the eye and tell him what you're going to do to him.
Look, I'm going to do what I did the first time around.
I'm just going to capitalize on it better.
But you lost.
Yeah, I know.
That's why I said I'm going to capitalize on it better.
I had him down in the first.
Pretty good.
He doesn't think you have a punch big enough to actually knock him out.
You know, he knows.
It's silly talk.
I don't know.
Don't get me wrong.
Don't get me wrong.
Each fight has to do what they've got to do to build themselves up confidence-wise,
to G themselves up towards a fight.
And this is the persona that he's created for this fight in particular.
And Fabio doesn't hit hard and he doesn't punch.
But why did you hit the canvas twice?
That doesn't make any sense.
You tripped over.
We watched the clips there.
There was no trips there.
There was no magic wires that tripped him up.
But, like, each to their own.
They've all got to do their own thing to build towards it.
Me, I'm a professional.
It's a job at the end of the day.
And he's just the opponent in front of me.
I'm going to beat him, knock him out, get rid of him, move on.
What round?
I said the first half of the fight, the job will be done with.
So, what are you saying?
Five, six?
Within six.
Within six, he'll be knocked out.
He'll be done with.
Knocked out?
Knocked out.
Daniel?
Where did you get that from?
His mum had Ali.
Your topic.
I didn't say I was going to float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
Daniel, what's your prediction of the fight?
I'm coming for war, going to break him down and stop him when it happens, man.
Where's he going to happen?
I don't know.
Knockout?
Yeah.
Stoppage.
What round do you think?
Stoppage.
I'm not a round predictor, but I'm a stoppage.
Early or later in the fight?
We'll see.
You've been in the ring.
Tuning.
You know each other.
Tuning.
I mean, you're two warriors.
I know you're both going to give it 100%, because we saw it last time.
It's a hell of a fight.
I'll be watching, gentlemen.
That's it.
I'll be watching.
02, Saturday night.
You can watch it, obviously, on DAZN.
Good luck.
May the best man win.
I mean that.
Thank you.
I appreciate your company.
Yeah.
The harpist and the sensitive new father.
Shake hands?
He won't shake my hand.
I've tried a thousand times.
Don't shake his hand.
You shake his hand.
He won't do it.
I'll shake his hand, but you shake his hand.
He won't.
Why won't you shake his hand?
I cleaned it.
I anti-backed it.
I told you, I look after my hands.
He moisturizes his hand for you.
You don't want to shake his hand?
I'll shake his hand after the fight.
Facts.
You won't even shake your hand, Fabio.
I don't know.
Don't make this a problem, because this is how I approach every fight I'm in.
It's respect.
After the fight, we'll hug each other, embrace each other.
There's that respect amongst warriors, so that's how I see it.
When he does that, does he not. That's the same effect he does on me.
He has, I mean, it sort of crunches.
No, it is.
I would not want that landing on my head.
Maybe that's why his hands are a bit messed up, because he's just constantly going at it himself.
I'm going to bring a harp to the O2, to serenade you both.
Seriously, best of luck.
Cheers, guys, thank you.
I think we can't end on a better note.
I think we can't end on a better note than that.
So I appreciate you both coming in.
The best man win.
I'll be watching.
So will a lot of people.
On DAZN, Saturday night, the O2.
Let's get it on, boys.
Thank you.
Good to see you.
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Coach Hank saves 25% at BJ's Wholesale Club, using it to buy groceries like pasta and protein bars, emphasizing teamwork and savings.
Daniel Dubois and Fabio Wardley are set to rematch in London at the O2, following a highly intense and violent first fight five months prior.
Both fighters express confidence in their abilities, with Daniel citing a 95% knockout ratio and Fabio emphasizing resilience and respect despite the brutal fight.
The fighters have a deep mutual respect post-fight, acknowledging the intensity and emotional impact of their encounter, with a focus on honoring the warrior spirit.
A personal and emotional thread runs through their stories—both are fathers, with the fatherhood experience adding depth, chaos, and balance to their lives.
Daniel shares a surprising passion for art and playing the harp, while also revealing his love for boxing as a form of performance and expression.
Both fighters view the rematch as a personal and professional challenge, with Daniel aiming to improve on his first loss and Fabio showing no fear of re-engaging.
The rematch is framed as a continuation of their battle, with fans and media expecting a high-octane, emotionally charged event on DAZN.
Summary:
Daniel Dubois and Fabio Wardley are set to rematch at the O2 in London, following a fiercely intense and violent first encounter five months prior. Both fighters demonstrate deep respect and resilience, crediting each other’s physical and mental toughness despite the brutal nature of their fight. Daniel, a former recruitment consultant and now a father, sees boxing as both a career and an art form, with a personal touch through his love of music and art—particularly playing the harp.
Fabio, also a father, reflects on how fatherhood has brought balance and new dimensions to his life. The rematch is viewed as a personal journey: Daniel aims to capitalize on his first loss, while Fabio remains unshaken in his belief in his own strength. The dialogue highlights the emotional and physical toll of professional boxing, with both men acknowledging the risks and the need for mental preparation.
The fight is expected to be a high-impact spectacle, live-streamed on DAZN, and seen as a continuation of their legendary clash. Interwoven with this are personal stories—Hank’s savings journey at BJ’s Wholesale Club, where he saves 25% on groceries, symbolizing everyday value and financial savvy. The hosts emphasize that life is unpredictable, and that pivotal moments—like a phone call to start boxing—can drastically change one’s path.
Ultimately, the episode blends boxing drama with personal growth, fatherhood, and art, portraying the fighters not just as warriors, but as complex, human beings navigating success, resilience, and legacy.
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It is described as a highly anticipated rematch following a ferocious fight five months prior, with both fighters showing strong respect and intensity.
He plans to break down his opponent in the early rounds and secure a stoppage, aiming to capitalize on the lessons learned from their previous fight.
Both fighters emphasize mental toughness and resilience, noting that they don’t feel pain in the moment due to adrenaline and training, which builds their ability to withstand punches.
Daniel identifies as an artist and says boxing is a form of art, with plans to paint on the ring using blood, showing a creative and artistic side to his boxing identity.
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