Things we're surprisingly bad at, hidden talents, & questionable habits

My parents never gave me a sex talk and he never taught me how to survive in water. What were you thinking letting me into adulthood? I'm pretty bad at athletics. I'm fast, I'm strong, fortunately I fall a lot, pretty clumsy and my son takes after me. What do you mean by using my toothbrush? He's like, "Well, just pick what a triple one's available." What? Get the plaque on your teeth away from my teeth. I steal my toothbrushes. Oh my god. Would you eat the food out of their mouth? No. Probably. Welcome back to Always Here, We're Your Host, Abby Howard, Abby Howard. I feel like I've been calling you Abba a lot recently. I think it's because our kids are always short in each other's, awgs, awgs, gris, CJ's already short in. He's short in everybody. He calls you abs. Oh, does he? He's like abs. Okay. He's like abs, abs. Yeah. We're just losing letters every day. Well, well, we are here to share the hope and the hard with heart and humor. Yeah. I thought today would be fun. We're talking about secret talents, things we're bad at, maybe some reality TV. I don't know what else. We got to be fun. We're talking about things that we're good at but also mostly things that we're surprisingly bad at. Yeah. And I do mean surprising because I know that you think we're perfect. We are. Yeah. We're good at so many things. How can we be bad at this? Exactly. Even I was surprised. No. I was coming up with my things that I was surprisingly bad at. I was like, no one's going to be surprised that you're bad at sports, Abba. I didn't include that one because I was like, no one thinks you're good at that. I'm surprisingly bad at sports. I was like, what? They're like, honey, I'm a bit shocked if you knew what you were doing with the ball. So I was like, oh, they're going to be shocked. I'm bad at basketball. They're like, you're five, too, and you're a theater kid. No one thought you were a theater kid. So I was like, backspace. Backspace. Okay. Well, let's share your hopes. Or maybe your heart. Okay. Well, mine has to start with a heart and this is a harsh turn. So I'm going to. Okay. Hold on. Let's let the room. Okay. My heart starts first. So that my hope came in. Okay. But, oh gosh. Oh, here. Oh, Ab. I don't want to cry. It's okay. No, I really don't want to cry because. I've spent all last week trying not to. Because my hope is that I'm genuinely better. Like I genuinely feel like I literally woke up this morning and felt like someone had just like taken a bite off my neck or like weighted bags. But last week was really, really frickin hot. And it was the anniversary of losing Emerson and you know, it's one of those things where I think so much about gosh, I don't ever want to say you have to have like a silver lining to a tragedy because I don't, I don't know. I think that can just not be helpful sometimes at like the worst moments. But I can tell you that the silver lining is that I have gained so much more empathy. And I've also just honestly learned a lot of humility and like any situation that I've never experienced, I'm really hesitant now to be like, oh, well, I would have done this or they should let know. I'm like, I don't know because I haven't been through it because I've learned so many things and so many things have shocked me after experiencing like late term miscarriage. And by the way, it's late term miscarriage because after 20 weeks, at least in the state of Arizona, it's considered a silver. So people saying it's not a late miscarriage. I'm not mad at it. But I'm also like, there's an education piece here, late term miscarriage is a miscarriage after 12 weeks in the second trimester. And then after that point, it's considered a stillbirth and it's really recognized more as like a death in the state than a miscarriage. So just for that clarification, but I would have not thought that the anniversaries would have been particularly difficult. I would have thought it would be really hard always or different. I didn't know that it would be particularly different at that time, but something literally happened at the start of that week where it actually, like, I'm starting to think it made me physically ill and I couldn't even record this episode. And I thought it was because I was like sick, which I could have been sick, which we'll talk about later. But I had like a stomach pain that I could not even describe, like, doubled over, like hurt so bad. I was fighting it all day and to the night completely lost my appetite, completely tanked my milk supply. Like I was ill. And then you asked me, you're like, I mean, you think it was good, you can, I was like, literally thinking about, I was like, I feel like this grief just like took me out this past week. And I was just super shaky all the time. Like I didn't want people to talk about it, but I wanted people to talk about it. But I was like, send it over to text because if you say it in person, then I'm going to be ill. I mean, basically, I'll be crying and I just didn't want to. But just the anniversary of it was really, really, really, really hard. And I should have known because growing up, I knew the date that my parents had like lost my sister was really, really hard for my mom. My mom specifically and I was like thinking that it would be different than not thinking it would be different, but I just didn't know if it would affect me, it really affected me last week. Yeah. I mean, I think that makes sense. You probably just assumed like, okay, the birthday would be really hard and those milestones more so. And then this kind of snuck up. Well, I didn't even think the birthday specific, I don't know. I thought that, and I don't even know how to address that day like anniversary birthday. Like I didn't even know how to address that, like, yeah, I didn't even know what to call that and I still don't. I just felt all this pressure for the week and I think at the beginning of the week I felt all this pressure to do something big to memorialize her. And then I was like, I can't even breathe thinking about that. So I will do it, but I'm like, I just can't, I just had to give myself grace basically. Yeah. So for sure. Yeah. I was just super sick about it and yeah, it was really, really, really rough, really rough, surprisingly rough and I thought that I had been through because I was like, I've had so many happy days since then, like, so many happy days that I was like, why would this come in as any different, especially because I have my rainbow baby. Yeah. But gosh, it's just different. It'll knock you on your butt. I mean, that day was like a very traumatic event. Yeah. And so I think it makes sense that your body would have, especially when you do feel emotional and better. Your body has like physical reminders. I think my stomach thinks about how crazy that is. Yeah. I think Ashley, our friend talks about that a lot, like, your body holds onto grief in trauma in different ways. Yeah, they call it your body keeps the score. Yeah. So yeah. It was crazy though, how it like actually, like, I thought I could muscle, I could mind my way through this. Right. And then it's like, I started. I went back to the gym one day and I was, it has nothing to do with the gym, but like, I don't think I was in my stomach, like, and I just couldn't, I haven't taken it an app. Like, I was like, I need to sleep, and it was, I was just ill, and it was really, really, really hard. But I woke up this morning, surprisingly, haha, I'm like crying now. But I woke up this morning literally just feeling like, so much joy. Like, I was like, I feel amazing. My energy was feeling, like, feeling so much better. My appetite is starting to come back. I literally couldn't eat like, basically, like, I was struggling to eat all last week. Yeah. So it's so weird. I have any hunger cues. Yeah. And I'm nursing. Isn't it interesting? Like, I think it's kind of beautiful that your body, our bodies will do that. And I know it's hard. It's so hard. No. But like, our mind wants to self-protect and like, turn off and ignore and push away. But then your body is telling you, like, hey, you've got to slow down and you have to work through this and feel that. Yes. And remember, like, you don't want to forget Emerson. So it's like, even though it's a painful, and it is a painful reminder, but it is a reminder effort. No, it's so true. I think it's a really great, like, mechanism to just be like, no, you have to, yeah, you have to remember. That's a great way of putting it. And that's exactly how I was like, starting now to see like what was happening last week. But like, yeah, yeah, in the moment, you're like, what's going on? I was like, maybe this first year is just for me to process right now because it just got, it just really, really got me totally, really got me so bad. And gosh, someone commented on, it was really going, I made a post on her, the day of her loss, and it kind of just happened readily because I just had this realization, like, as I was at the beach, nursing, Fisher, thinking about how, gosh, this is dark again. It's okay. I think about how different it was, like, looking down and holding a baby on that day. Yeah, versus like, looking down and holding her exactly a year later. It was so dark, and I was just so grateful, but still so grief-stricken by that difference. Anyway, I don't want that to be the focus of this episode or like what we talk about. You were going to talk about it on Plan Last Week, and I was like, if we weren't too, I literally couldn't finish it. I was just too, it was too much. But so again. comment down my post, which was very generous of them. I was a quote from me that I didn't remember saying, but I was like, well, that's exactly how I feel. So I was like, I guess that was something I said, but it was like, rainbow babies. Don't rewrite like our losses, but they're like a continuation of their story. And I'm just repeating my own quote apparently, because that's truly how I feel about Fisher versus Emerson, like as much as I feel like some mobs after loss want to separate those two stories just because you don't want to bring sadness on your baby's story. He really is a continuation of Emerson's story too. And obviously he has, he's starting his own story, but like his birth was a continuation of her story. And just like looking down at him and seeing like that story's progression and how it has turned this something beautiful really struck me in the form, but yeah. - Yeah. - Just give me a picture. He woke up and your mom doesn't know how to get him to go back to sleep. - Well, that would be my boobs. (laughing) - Speaking of my rainbow. - Maybe I go get him real quick and get myself together and then we will have a great joyful episode. So don't think this is gonna be sad. It's not, it's gonna be happy. - It's gonna be happy. - Hi buddy. - Oh, he looks so big up. - Hi. - Hi. - I feel like he is kind of big. - He's good big. - Yeah. - And I was just with him all weekend. And I'm looking, I'm like, whoa. - You're saying either one month old, I'm like, how? - I know. It's okay to be sad about that, by the way. You don't have to feel sad about being bad. You don't have to feel bad about making it sad. It's not sad. I think it's-- - No, I just burnt for my, I've had too many headaches from crying. I'm like, I don't want to make it sad 'cause I don't want to have another headache. (laughing) - I am crying. And it also just really drains me to cry. - It is draining. It does give me headaches too, and I'm like really teary. - Yeah. - But sometimes I think it's 'cause I'm trying to hold back my tears while I'm in the middle of a sob. And I'm like, don't let this not come out. And then I get a headache, you know? - Oh no, I think it's just 'cause it hurts my, I get all my headaches in my eyes. - It hurts my eyes a cry like this. - Okay. - Also, yeah, it's just, thanks for sharing. I know so many people feel, are really, it's so relatable, Abby. - No, I don't want to be a broken record, but I'm like, that's just the reality of this stuff. It just really, really changes you forever. - And not a lot of people talk about it. So I think even when you bring it up like later on about your grief and how you're processing it, I think that's really helpful for people. I've never gone through a major grief in my life. And so, seeing you walk through it, I'm like, oh, I've just never seen that before. - I will say, it's been really helpful in enlightening for me. - Thank you. It's been really good for me to like talk about, 'cause it sounds, I mean, we like talk about. Like I know I can always talk to you guys about it, but there's something about like, you know, being, I don't know, having a podcast where we're like, okay, we're just like talking about everything. And which is true, I do talk about, I do talk about it, I feel like, but this is just per, I've met a lot of women because of it. Actually, I remember right after we, like literally the month after the loss, we were in Disney. And I met a mom that was going to Disney to, 'cause it was a trip that she'd already planned when she was pregnant. And she had just lost a girl and had two boys and was still like going on the trip to make her, like, 'cause her boys were excited. - Exactly like you. - And lost your girl at 17 weeks. It was the exact same story. We were in Disney, we were at Goofy's Kitchen together. And I was literally like, this is devastating, but also, oh, sorry. Oh, he's also pooping. - Oh, really? (beep) (laughing) - For his privacy, please, glee that. (laughing) - That was his mother, not him. - It was me, I swear. (laughing) - I mean, it's something we're all gonna have to walk through. - Every single person has to walk through grief in their life. And yeah, it's not something that's talked about or really educated on. And I think we're just kind of left to the wolves to figure out how to navigate it when it comes upon us. So, having voices that share is so helpful. And I had so many women, or I shouldn't say so many, I had some really key women that would meet with me regularly and still do that had gone through similar things. Like, very similar, and that had really helped me. So, I was like, if there's someone that doesn't have someone like that, 'cause it is a little niche in a way. - Totally. - It's a little, I don't mean niche, wow, that sounds like a cute thing and it's not cute at all, but you find yourself in a small percentage. So sometimes, especially if you're like in a small town, you may not be able to be connected with someone, so. - Right. - Anyway, how's your life been? - Good, you know, my hope, it's kind of silly after this. - I'm sorry. - I got the new iPhone. - Yeah! - Oh, I'm going to go upgrade. - See, that's the scene. - Yeah, you know what, we balance. And the reason why that's significant is because I had zero storage. And every day, it was causing me so much anguish. Every day, it would pop up. You're out of storage, you're out of storage. Oh, and your life and job is on your phone. It's, it's really, every day, it just looks like a challenge. - I know. So I was able to upgrade, which was really nice. So I feel like a free lady. And I have, it just is like a lifted weight off my shoulders. So that's been hopeful. And I got the 512, I didn't get the one terabyte. So we'll see in two years how I feel about that storage pick, but it's okay. My heart was that sandwiched between Italy and our Newport trip was a lot of work, things that were really exciting and fun, but really were overwhelming. And I thought a lot of mom guilt, because I was just gone for a trip, and I was really busy with getting content and work. And yeah, I just felt a little sad, but I was able to, 'cause we have a babysitter come just a couple days a week in the afternoon, and ended up having her not come on Friday afternoon instead. And I just had like a fun day with the kids. And just because I felt like I was running around a lot, especially during their nap times, I was like, okay, got a nap and then in the evening, it just felt like a race. So I just really need to give them some uninterrupted good quality time, trying to get everything done in a week and a half, just felt like a little stressful. And I just felt a lot of mom guilt about it. But I'm caught up, and if we can go back to our normal routine, and we'll be back in good. So you kind of touched on it and I did too, that we went to Newport, both of our families, we went to Newport this past weekend, but we're gonna talk about in the next episode because we're not even supposed to be recording this now. It's because I literally was so sick. - Doubleed over, yeah, it was not. I was horizontal whenever I could be, which actually isn't that much when you're really thinking about the fact that, oh, I hope he feels better after that one. - It's still going. - Don't clip that. (laughing) - It was mother, I'm so afraid that there is a blowout. Do you wanna check? Let me check? No, I don't feel it, we're good. Okay. - When a blowout happens, it's on my hands. - Sometimes it's loud, and usually I feel like those-- - That was when, that was-- - Okay. We went to Newport with our families, and we have a lot to talk about from that, but honestly, we just have to cap it because we just know that we will continue to app. So be excited about that for next time. - Yes, there'll be a next episode. And I have a lot of things I want to say about that. (laughing) I can't wait to hear 'em. - Okay, thank you to Quince for sponsoring this portion of today's episode. You know those pieces in your closet, you find yourself reaching for over and over again? That has got to be my Quince skirts. It's in my wash right now. Quince makes clothes that you just want to wear, and it's a good thing too, because they're really high quality. They can live through the wash cycle, even my wash cycle. I love that Quince's pieces are basics, but elevated. 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And when Quince asks where you heard about them, let them know it was always here. It's the best way to support the show. - Um, should we do, while that's crazy? - Yeah. - While that's crazy. - While that's crazy, that's crazy. - That's it. - Addy has a while that's crazy for us. - Addy. - Well, the while that's crazy is just all the craziness with secret lives and Mormon-wise. Did you finish watching? - Yeah, watch the first one. - I haven't watched all five episodes, but it has been, or Michaela has announced that she's not returning for the next season based on things going on within the group and mostly Taylor Frankie Paul. But the real while that's crazy that I wanted to let you know about Addy is how Taylor's season ended of the Bachelorette. - Of the Bachelorette. - Yes. - Did we, they aired it? - No. - She, they revealed it in secret lives and Mormon lives. - So they were recording secret lives and Mormon lives after the Bachelorette ended. - Okay. - Okay. - So they're just, are they allowed to, - Well, ABC owns, - Did they own ABC and Hulu? - So they're all under the same parent family. What do you think about it is little nuts because they'll cancel them. - But they'll still have to realize the Mormon wives. - But it's all the same parent companies. - What if that was literally to boost the secret lies of Mormon wives? - Maybe they knew-- - Season, I don't know. - I think they definitely, like, lost some revenue for canceling the bachelor's. So I don't think they would do that. - That actually makes no sense. - Right? Isn't that so? Are people talking about that? - It's all PRs. - I don't know, maybe. - So she got engaged. - She got engaged to Doug. - Do you remember Doug? - When we did the rankings? - I remember Doug. - No, remember Doug. - He was a inspired musician. - How do you remember that? - Because I just remember the pictures. Yeah, I just remember. - You also liked Doug, right? - No, it wasn't that I picked. - It wasn't that I picked. - So she got engaged to Doug when some of the girls of Seagull wives came out and met the final three contestants. The girls were like, "Doug is the worst one." - Don't go with him. - Don't go with him. - Mm-hmm. - Comes back. - It's a pattern. - Comes back, home. A week later. Has slept with Dakota already. - Yeah, it's a bad cycle. - That'll hurt your engagement. - No, yeah, while she was still engaged. - That'll hurt you. - Yeah, that'll hurt. - That'll put a little crack in the eye. - Then had there so like, when they're in this in between of when the bachelor has ended versus when it's public, they call them, happy couple weekends. So they get an Airbnb or something like that. - Wasn't that fascinating to learn about? - I didn't have known that for a little bit. - Oh, I never knew that about bachelor. - Yeah. So they could still spend time to get, because a lot of people have broken up in their happy couples. - Oh, interesting. - So that was Pylope, what talked about there. - Really? - They're happy. - There happened there too. And so, they ended up breaking it off in one of their happy couple. And I don't remember if she told him. I don't remember if she told him or not. But here's the thing. She's not in love with Doug. She's not in love with Dakota. She's in love with Ben. - Well, Ben. - Ben made a quick appearance in season four. - Correct. - And just like flew out to hang out with her the weekend before she went to the bachelor, right? - The week before she left. - Yeah. - But again, remember the night before she left, she also slept with Dakota. So, this whole thing. So, she's in love with Ben. - Yeah, it's a lot of juggle. - Okay, that's my thought. Which we might need to cut this. You guys can vet this. But I got three kids. I can't, I can't think about one man. - What I'm gonna wear. - Oh, sorry, I can't even think about. Oh yeah, that's what the great point. I can't even think about my freaking husband. (laughs) I can't find time for that guy. And we are, I think about that about people that she all the time in their marriage. I'm like, when do you have time? - That was my main point. I'm like, when did you? When did you have time to cheat? - When did you have time to cheat? When did I, I don't know. - I know. - I'm down. - She's a high capacity, super high capacity girl. (laughs) - But I look crazy. - This place. - So yeah, she's in love with him. - Okay. - They go to, they all go to New York to see Whitney on Broadway. - Oh, it's fun. - That's funny. She brings Ben. Again, they're still in, like, no one can know. - But she's engaged. - She's still in her NDA with the bachelor's. - Yeah. - She's like, sneaked in that church. - They broke up their engagement. - Oh, they broke up their engagement. - But they can make it there. - It's not public. Ben was like, snuck there. Like, he's hiding. He can't be seen with her now. - I think it's all before he's all kids. - He's in Airbnb. - Yeah, he's there. - He's there the whole time. - The whole time. (laughs) - He's in there. - He's like, I want you to be my girlfriend. Like, I want to, like, this is something, it's all on the show. - This is so crazy. - This is so crazy. It's so messy to watch. - They're also like, all Ben. - Oh, I know, poor Ben. Ben is like-- - What is that big serious? - He's very, like, then she cut it off with it. (laughs) - What they left. - New York. - 'Cause she's like, I don't have to worry. - She's like, I don't have to worry. I'm like, I think she, yeah, she's wise to do that. - She can't be with these series and maybe don't have anything casual. - Right. - I know. - She made a post about Ben recently that she, like, that he was a great guy. - Yeah, she made a really sweet post. - I think whenever, like, it was-- - I don't mosh to Ben. - I think it went all the way up, like, yeah. - It was, yeah. It was a crazy scene. - Wait, that was it? It was a hard watch, honestly. I feel like-- - That's where I'm at so far. - Oh, you haven't finished it? - No, I haven't finished it. - Okay, I think, something about the show, and you guys don't have to comment on this, 'cause we kind of talked about it in the call, but obviously, like, talking about mental health is so big in our culture, and like, suffering along with people, and, like, helping people when they're down on their love. But I feel like it's been a really, the last five seasons, you've seen Taylor, specifically, her mental health, and all the phases of it, and these different levels of the downs and the ups. And I think the girls have done a really good job of, like, long-suffering alongside her, and being there for her when she's really struggling. I think now it's gotten to the point where they're, like, what are the boundaries? Like, what is better for her and for us as friends? Like, is it loving to, is it enabling now to the point, or is it, you know, I feel like they're kind of in that discussion of it, but I just think it's been a very fascinating and super relatable thing to watch, and that you're actively watching someone struggle, and actively watching people figure out how to support them best. And I don't think we have a lot of examples of that, and I also don't think when people talk about mental health, sometimes you don't see how bad it can get. Like, when people have manic episodes and different things, like, how, what does that actually look like in real life? I think this, not that she's gotten manic, but just for examples, like, there are really hard, dark things that people walk through and can come out of, and I think it's just been really interesting seeing how they navigate it, and probably I think pretty enlightening to people watching it. It's just been very interesting to watch. - No, I agree. I think it's been interesting, 'cause I'm also on the side of, like, wow, they really shouldn't be on TV right now, like, they need to figure some stuff out before, because especially for someone who, like, maybe likes the attention and likes the drama, and likes, is like feeds into it a little bit like Taylor does, where it might be good for her to take a break and not be reported on all the time and get that break from it, even if she'd choose to or not necessarily. And my brain, and I could be completely off, I'm like picturing, like, - Like maybe that's a name for you. - Maybe that's a name for you. - That's a serious type situation. You're just watching someone unfold in a dark situation. Like being on the show itself is a name for you. - Yeah, yeah. - Is she going back for season six? - She has an house, she's not. - So is then Michaela gonna go back on? - I don't think so. - Oh, okay. - Because she's, 'cause I think Michaela, 'cause people are asking that. I mean, Michaela was like, there are other issues too. Like, just being on a network that was supporting someone. - Sure. - Like, that is doing these things is not necessarily something she wants to be a part of. - Well, it's not always the question with the ethics of reality TV. Like, you are showcasing and even, what's the word, like, antagonizing? - Yeah. - You know, you're kind of, they're trying to scratch and poke the bear to great reactions. And so it's like, what are, what's the correct ethics about reality TV? - Well, that's how I feel about it. - In general, I was watching this season. I'm like, they're making Whitney and Jen sit down and have a discussion. They don't need to do that. Like, they're just like doing it for the show. - Sure. - You know, we're, I'm just like, a lot of it's scripted, for sure. - I'm not scripted, but like, I'm kind of like prompted. - Yeah, they're in your pocket. - Totally. - Telling you, like, how to guide the conversation. Yeah, bring this up. - Yeah, for sure. - Isn't that weird? Let's ask about that. - Yeah, totally. - For sure. - Well, I hope those girls get their bag and get out, you know? - They go, get your bag and get out. - Holy God, the secret lives of Orange County, coming soon. - Yeah, I'm not gonna watch that one. - I'm gonna check in and just see what's going on. - Let us know how that one is. Let us know how that one is. - I'm curious about the Avery Woods, the Aspen Ovard of it all, and just see how it all. - Yeah, I, I don't really want to, to give that, the, some of those storyline to be used. - Yeah. - So, I don't know, just kind of curious. - I don't know if that's fair. - I don't worry. Yeah, I don't have, really. - Well, that's what that did to me. - What about Abby and Abigail do? - Blake. (all laughing) - Like in your free time, she's like, what do they do? - When do you watch TV all day or at night? - At night. - We watch TV at night. - I said, you watch more TV. - Yeah, we watch TV. - What do you get? - What do you do once the kids go? - Your kids stay up pretty late. - Yeah, we're with our kids, they went to bed at 10 p.m. last night after 10. - Yeah, well, also I didn't watch, there's no time to watch TV when you have a newborn. - Yeah. - I didn't watch anything. - Well, what's your first? - Yeah. - You have a lot of time. - Yes, oh, I watched so much TV with my first. But yeah, with Vivian, I was like, I'm so tired by, then to the night, I'm feeding at night and I'm trying to go to bed. Like there wasn't time to really watch TV. But yeah. - Um, that's what I do. - Yeah. - So I'm going to be being in a season right now, not. No, we watch TV in the evenings, but it's mostly, like Caleb doesn't really have any interest in reality TV, so normally it's a documentary of some sort, or a sport. - We could have a documentary. - Or YouTube videos. - I watch the, I watch the preachers one, just set it. - Okay, crazy. - You need to watch the Manusphere documentary. - Oh, yes. - That's my report. - When I was so, like, doubled over in bed, I was like, I took my nap and I was really like, what should I do? In my free time. - And make me feel it in free time. - Nope. I don't know if it anger's the word. If fear would probably more be, it's a fearful documentary. Fear mongering. 'Cause you're like, wow, I'm raising sons and what if they ever watch content like this? [BLANK_AUDIO] - They will not have hold, yeah, no. - I mean, I think a lot of people will say that, but that manned spear wanted to raise a great documentary work. - 48 hours. - That's what we've been watching. - That's something I've been watching. - Holy. - Wow, that's really like old kind of old. - I listened to their podcast. - That's what Blake wants to watch. - He said he likes 48 hours more than Dateline, 'cause Dateline has less interviews. It's more like story-based. - Yeah. - There's 48 hours. You're like interviewing the cops and they're kind of like, "Oh, 48 hours is murder." - Yeah. - I'm thinking of 60 minutes. - Oh gosh. - Sorry, I was like, "Wow, that's really like very different." - Very different. - Oh, that's a different story. - 40 hours. - They're completely different. - Murders, learning about like how crans are made. (laughing) Tonight on 60 minutes. (laughing) - That's great. - Thank you to Honey Love for sponsoring this portion of today's episode. 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West Wing, right? - I thought they did. - Blake told me no. - Is it West Wing? - It's a West Wing, right? - The West Wing is a famous one, but is it famous 'cause that's where they live? - That's where they live. - Or is that where the oval office is? - Are we allowed to know where the president lives for security reasons? - That's what I was also like, it's probably not safe for them to live at the White House. - That's what I thought. - Safe is place to them to live. - That's where all this security is. - Did you know that Washington DC is one of the highest crime rates? - Yeah, I actually didn't know that. - Is it not? - I didn't know that. - It didn't take your service. We keep it in check up there, huh? - Yes, the sitting president lives in the White House for their whole term along with their family. The private living quarters are in the second and third floors of the executive residence, the main central building, the West Wing, where the oval offices holds offices. - Oh, okay. - That means the president's commute is a short walk downstairs. - Yeah. - Because think about the middle nights, something crazy happens. - Yeah. - They gotta be available. - The reason why this was like, trying to kind of a question is because Trump owns what's it called, Mar-a-Lago or whatever, and he spends most of his time there, probably. But he's also like, mostly, but he also was in the office like, Obama had moved his whole family in, like two of them. - Talk about being relocated for your dad's job. - Yeah, literally. - So that was our-- - And didn't his Trump wife and son Barry, then they live in New York for like his first term, they stayed in his Trump tower. I think there's always debate on that because then they have to have security at their other residences. That's really high and really expensive. I mean, obviously you're gonna want to protect your president, but it's like, I don't know, I just-- - Remember Kai, Trump talking about that. She was like, I kind of do, like, Secret Service has to go with me, like, everywhere. - Is it even good? - This kind of stuff is actually crazy because I didn't look into it, but I was seeing reports that they Trump went to a college football game and they had to like, anytime Trump moved from location to location, they cut out the headsets and like the audio of like, for like the play, like the coaches to the teams. And I was like, that's like, kind of wild. - I know, at that point, put them in a bubble. - Yeah, I'm like, I don't think they're gonna be chatting about where Trump is when they're trying to win this game. I don't know. - Yeah, I don't know. You never know, people are crazy. - They just stayed in Trump tower. - I knew you were talking about presidents. - They just stayed in Trump tower in New York for five months or so, so he could finish, so Baron could finish his school year. They moved into the White House in June 2017. - You guys know how tall Baron is? - No. - Dude, that kid is a, he's a Trump tower. - He is so tall. - He is so tall. - He came up in the manuscript. I don't know what you mean, he's six seven. - Oh my gosh. - Six seven. - So I'm gonna put him closer to six nine. - I'm crazy, you guys. - This feels like a fact that we could really - That's my own. - That's all right, I don't even understand it, but you just have to, I feel like, okay. (laughing) - And see as soon as she said that, I was like, I hope that he doesn't make a joke. - I'm sorry. - I'm so proud of him. - It didn't even register. - I know, I know. - He's so beyond that. - It's been a long time to figure it out, and I still never did. - Caleb doesn't miss a dad joke, so I just had to throw it in there. - Can we also talk about how you and Caleb said the same joke we were talking about, the poop girl, the iPod girl, she's like, you said, I put my pants for $20,000, and then we talked about it that night when we were all celebrating Vibby's birthday, and then we're all talking about it again. I was like, I fear that I might have had a bad take very publicly about the poop girl, and then everyone was like, yeah, you did. And then Caleb was like, I put my pants, I don't know, I put my pants for $20,000, and then he goes, I do it right now. (laughing) And I was just like, oh my god. - She's like, they're married. - And then I started laughing a lot, and then Caleb was like, did that one really get you? And I was like, yes, but it was also mostly laughing because you had just said that. - That's so funny, 'cause I didn't even hear if I say that, we've never talked about that. So you made the same joke. You guys are, or maybe we're just like, the things we do for you. - You guys are disgusting together. - Okay, let's give this a go. - That was great, good little banter ladies. Well, my iPad is my, that hand is out of commission. - That's okay, I'll talk about it. - Lead us in. - We are talking about Hidden Talents, and we ask you guys what your, well, we're talking about Hidden Talents, things that we're bad at, right? We thought it'd be fun to start with maybe some party tricks or Hidden Talents that you guys have. - Yeah, before we knock ourselves, let's just give them a flex. - Give them some encouragement. - Let's just, let's cheer for you all. - Oh, these are there. - Yes. - Okay, this is your guys. All of our always hear podcast Instagram. You submitted your secret Hidden Talents. - Yes. I'll read them and you can react to them, Abby. - Okay. - Liz said, I can move my butt cheeks. - They're my butt cheeks. (laughs) - I'm not gonna say the names. - This guy was gonna move my butt cheeks separately. (laughs) Like each one. - What? (laughs) - That's impressive. - That's a great skill. - That is a great skill. - Do you have anything kind of crazy, right? - About your butt. - No, I remember in like middle school when I first learned what twirking was, I would go and watch like how to twerk and try to learn how. - And there were videos of like twerk team girls that can move one time. And I was like, how do you get that? - Right skill. - Left cheek. - Yeah, literally. So I was like, wow. So maybe she learned during those days. - That's so funny. - You're all watching the same videos. - I cannot isolate my cheeks and certainly not one cheek at a time. - Me neither. - So proud of her. - I'm proud. - I'm proud of applause for the multi-town people. - This guy said, I can play the recorder with my nose. - Oh. - The recorder. Why was he even harmonica at first? - The recorder. - What a, what a name that instrument. - Not a terrible instrument to give elementary school kids. - There's boogers in those. - That's a crazy first instrument for children. - Cross buns. - Cross buns. - Cross buns. - Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo. - God, that's funny. - Residing, the preamble to the US Constitution from memory. - That's like me with the Big Center Mountain soundtrack. - Okay, just from that, recite the preamble, wait, what? (laughing) - Hey, howdy partner. - For your safety. - Please remain seated with your hands on, I'm treating ladies and sides. - You have to say with your accent too. - Thank you, that's all I want. - You're all watching your kids. (laughing) - Have any of your books or keep them at can't stop? Have any of your books or read hats or glasses? Best removal. 'Cause this here is a wildest ride in the world. - You should be in cars, the remake. - Thank you. - Yeah, put her in. - Cast me as mayor. - Put her as mayor. (laughing) - Residing, the preamble to the US Constitution. - Preamble is way more useful. - The preamble, yeah, I feel like if you memorize it, are you from the States of Texas or Utah? - Shirley, Texas. - You think? - How does that even start? - We the people of United States of America, right? - Yep. - Okay. - That's where it starts. - Hereby? - Yeah, yeah, like the, I was in a play where we had to, we're side the preamble, but I don't remember it. - That's lengthy. That is impressive. - Probably not the whole thing, but just parts of it. - No, this girl. - Oh, yeah. That's amazing. Maybe she's from Tennessee. Those are like my three states. I'm like, you probably had to memorize the preamble. - Washington DC. - No, I don't probably think they did. - Okay. (laughing) - Okay, Jenny said, if it's a good day, I do a pretty good KIP impression from Napoleon Dynamite. - I love that. - You never see that movie. - What? - I'm in a mood, yeah. - What? - I don't think you'd find it funny, but it is funny. - That's why I avoided it. - Cause you're like, but you are wrong. - Yeah, it's, I don't think you'll find it it is, but it is. - That movie was, like, it was one of a kind. - Yeah. - You need to just watch it. - Yeah. - So to say, you're stuck off the list. - I know, that would be so down. - We should just have a movie now. - Yeah, I do. - Cause I would love to watch it again. - It's so quotable. - Okay. - I know, it's so good. Grace says, "I can smell when my child is getting sick. "I do KY or how, but I've never been wrong." - Oh. - What does it smell like? - Like a sinus, like the sinus infection, or maybe they're sweat, maybe they're fair. That way their head smells. - I'm curious. I have more questions. - Martinez said, "I can light a candle with my feet." (laughing) Yeah, I just want to know some backstory on some of these. I know there's a good story connected with that one How do you like with a liner or match? I tried that That's sometimes when I think about these and I'm like, why did you have to do that in the first place? Maybe one of these now. Have you seen that person on TikTok that this is so amazing They make content they have no arms and so they'll make videos of how they live their life with just legs And he's literally like cooking with his feet really flexible hips Celia said I can recite 86 digits of pi. Okay What is the beginning of pi again 3.14 159 265 is all I got. Okay. Oh, that's actually pretty good. Thanks guys I always remember the 3.14 because 314 St. Louis area could be so pi day was kind of fun It's like 314 day. That is cool. Yes, found out on a mission trip in high school I can spit a watermelon seed 13 feet and six and a half inches That's actually insane because that's a small object. I don't really have anything to compare that too But I don't really if I were I don't think I could get it across this room. I know I don't know why but that just gives the same energy of like eating six hot dogs. I don't know It's like I can spit a watermelon seed. No, it's like Annie get your gun. I can do it How's it? You don't know Napoleon dynamite. I don't know Annie get you good She's like no you know this song though anything you can do. I can do better I can do anything better. No, you can't. It's like can you do this and it's like can you spit a watermelon? Very fun. I'm just trying to justify myself. No, I love it. Thank you. We should do a video with that sound as the name is Ivy Howard Oh, that's fun. That was like the most the most used song at dance competitions for duets like musical theater duets Yeah, to that song. It was cute everywhere The last one I can pogo stick while jumping rope learned it as a kid who somehow still do it two kids later Pogo stick while jumping rope. I heard someone. I know someone that their mom gave them all pogo sticks cuz She knew I'd keep them occupied for a really long time Haha, and I was like what a great thing and seven iPad we just keep thinking of Skills they need to master and then when they're older they'd be like I can pogo stick while jump rope That is amazing. They could submit that to a podcast I was always kind of scared of my pogo stick. I don't know why I made me feel a little scared like I thought I was gonna get Check out for you, but I really had a lot of fun with my skip pop skip pop was Greasy I went through a few of those like I would crack them. I went so hard. It was so fun Who will who it's very safe? I want a who who being competition if we're gonna start getting into that I want a who who being competition. I who who for over nine minutes? Did you get a cramp they kept trying to get me? Oh wait actually this is about your secret time. I have another one. Oh, okay No, another who who being competition is right. No, I have other secret how it's my who looping really is one And I've talked about it before so that's why I wasn't gonna be what I'm on because I was like me any very People already know I never did that, but they don't know that I'm too first place prizes deep. I was in elementary school I did for over nine minutes. They were trying to like get us to fall and I still could they couldn't do it then I want my with my family on a Disney vacation at this point. I am Probably 14 years old and there's a pool party going on at this Disney pool party picture. Everyone is about Six and under six six to eight. I would say actually six. Oh, we're just a little bit my parents are like I dare No, my dad. He was like I dare you to enter that competition. I was like dad. So I know I dare you and I was like It's babies dad and then he's like, okay, that's fine. I'll do it. And I'm over there who will be with children and I win And that's like good. I see that two-year-old crying over there like it's giving the Grinch like show with the Sacrifice yeah, yeah, my dad was like making fun of me then for winning it And I was he's like I saw that five-year-old crying over there She really wanted that because I got a prize. I got a treasure chest. I gave it to a kid gosh dang it But my dad dared me and I was like sure I'm not gonna lose my team to the race. Yeah, I only had one that I really could think of and it's kind of Now I feel kind of lame compared to the pogo steak, but I'm really good at jumping rope and as an adult is when I got into jumping rope Fun fact, I would be my basement. I'm called as an adult. Yeah, I was like what's a fun easy workout I could do in the winter in my parents basement I'm like I'm gonna jump rope. So I just started picking it up and I go fast One leg at a time. I can crisscross it. Did people know that's what you're doing in the basement? I don't know, but I'd set timers and see how long I'm sweating and they're like what were you doing Abigail? No, I'm serious I blast the music and I would like do it to the beat to the songs and Very fun workout, but yeah, it's just kind of as a little embarrassing I wasn't talking about myself doing my little jump rope routine in my basement at 24 years old I'm like, what am I gonna do to let's go jump some rope in the basement. Let's go jump something. Do you do double unders? I do dumbbell unders. Yeah. What's your? In a row? I think like 31. That's good That's really good. It's really good. I mean, I have I just know I like pee myself sometimes Not as much anymore. I like force good for you. Would you say public floor therapy for you? No, cuz it's not bad anymore Okay. Yes. Yes. No, I don't but some you know when I get up to 31 I'm like okay, well pushing it. That's really tempting really pushing it on the pillow floor That's funny. I just remember being so inspired by jumping as a kid. I loved that sound track It's good too. Yeah Pushing, pushing. I actually danced to that and jump roped jump roped jumped rope at my middle school talent show with my friends Cute We pulled out of my jump rope because I have it my closet just for those rainy days. Hey, no, all jump ropes are made the same No, they're not so true. This one's a pretty good one and Caleb and I were doing it and having CJ try to jump Mine is a hidden talent. This is a really weird one Well, we've already talked about me who being we are time on my cup stacking. Have we just a reminder guys I can suck stack cups really good really fast I need to get some competition grade cuts and just show you and I actually need to know if I can still do it Do you sing while I do it? You're gonna miss me when that's the cup song. I mean it's completely different. Oh, sorry, I even This is totally okay. Okay. Okay. It's like yeah. No, no, I know what it is. I remember we did in PE. Yeah What a fun PE lesson on a rainy day Hit the mat. Hit the mat We need to get mats and we should have we should have an Olympic mind glowed in their dark So I could really do something epic with it. Yeah, let's say what do they still make those speed stacking mats in time originally and cups There was a lot of people still doing it or was this just like I don't know. 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Griffin was crying because he left CJ Oh, they're all obsessed to do the obsessed with yeah, I can't wait for reality and Vivi to just start like I can't obsess each other. I'm at obsessed with Vivian. It's really sweet. It's totally true. It's like she was talking to me a lot more He's like but she like talking to you and I was like not as much as you Okay, but wait, that's not my hidden talent. Those are those are hidden talents I don't know why this the one I gave is actually kind of random and weird. It's I just haven't extremely long attention span Like you could literally give me any task to do and I really think I could just do that. I don't know what that says about my intelligence But if you set me in one place and are like just do this all day long. Uh-huh. I would do it. Yeah, I would do it all day long Yeah, even if it was extremely boring. Well, I think cuz you could probably just associate and just go Maybe that's my hidden talent. Maybe I think that is your hidden talent. I can just And I say that lightly because I'm like I actually don't know if that's a A real thing that people do that they're like fighting against but for me it's like I've tried to Like for good. I try to flex. Yeah, I think everything has a pro and a con right? I try to pull it out as a secret weapon Like this would be a good time too I sell the superpower. My last one is, I'm really good at making wings and I hate that and I keep it a secret because I don't like chicken wings. And every time Caleb brings it up, it makes me like a little mad that I make really good ones. But it is a talent. - Really, what do you do? - I don't tell them in seconds. - I don't even know. I saw one recipe online and then I just, Caleb loved it. - Yeah, you don't like them. - I don't like chicken wings. - Maybe either. - I don't think the meat on them is worth going in my body. - It is the cheapest cut of meat. - And when you get out to treat chicken and you're pulling the meat off the wing, you're like, "Who are we eating that?" - This brings me back to a memory of a Sunday dinner where I made you drumsticks and you just ripped on it. (laughing) - You're like, "You know, I really don't like drumsticks." (laughing) - I think you said it too. You're like, "I don't like drumsticks either." - No, I like drumsticks. - Oh, okay. - Am I really negative? - No. - That's why it stands out. - I mean, you're honest. - You're honest. - You're honest. - I mean, drumsticks are probably just one of the worst cuts of chicken. - No, I know where I said that. - I like drumsticks way more than, like, flats until, like, and then now I'm like, oh, they are better. - Okay, I'm talking about the chicken drumsticks. If I know what you're talking about, like, the little drummies? - No, it's a chicken. Like, they're for like, when you do the mini drummies, they are dry usually. - You had big drumsticks. - Big drumsticks. - I like the bigger ones. - Abby remembers the chicken. - What do you have? - Do you ever make any drumsticks? (laughing) - Never do that. - I will never make them again. - I remember ending that dinner. I was like, no, I'm never making any drumsticks ever again. (laughing) I was like, they were so cheap, but gosh dang it. No one liked it. - Sorry. - No, I'm sorry. - Hey, beggar. - So, she's hard. - She's hard. - There was something weird about those drumsticks. - Yeah, oh my god. - She's hard, it's weird, remember? - I don't think it was your cooking. - No, it wasn't me. - No, you guys, I lit, oh, maybe it was a meat. 'Cause I was like, literally all I did was put barbecue sauce on them. I just wanted it. - They were really, like, they were juicy. - It was like watery. - Did I use a rack, or maybe I needed to use a rack? - I don't know. - Sorry. - Sorry, but actually it does. - The more we made it, the more we made it. (laughing) - It's not as good as it is, right? - I thought you did it like this. - I think you said it first. And then I was like, yeah, I don't like 'em. I think were you like, something's weird. - You're like, I was supposed to say what we don't like. - 'Cause I don't think I would ever nag on it unless you were like, I don't like it. - Yeah, I wasn't like a neighbor. - No, no, no, no. No, I'm a neighbor. I think I haven't even yet. Okay, okay. (laughing) - No, I do like something. - You can call me. - I bought a turkey stick. Turkey stick? Turkey stick? - Turkey stick? - It makes you deering from universal ones. - Yeah, I know. - To my own money. My parents wouldn't buy it for me because I was like, 'cause they're like, you're not gonna eat it all. And I was like, fine, take $16 out of my bank account. I'll buy it. - So it's like four bites. - Four bites. - Oh, see, I like eat, I can't eat some turkey leg as a kid. - I've never had one. My parents were like, you're not gonna eat that. - Like, use my turkey about the quality of the meat. They're like, we don't eat that. - I'm gonna eat that. - I'm gonna eat that picture of the meat. - Hold it, take a picture of like a tilt, like a dancer. Like with my leg. - With your tray leg? (laughing) - You're like, it's spinning up. - I think that's why I'm gonna eat that. - It's a picture. - Yeah, sure. - Oh, let me find it. We got this really funny. - Yeah. - What were your demo? - Things were good. - Are you good at it? - Oh, that's battle. - I got a save. I couldn't think of it. I was like, what are my secret talents? I just keep the wings one a secret, because I don't want people to- - I don't want to get known for that. - You want it? Why not? - 'Cause I don't want to keep making them. - Okay. I don't like them. - You don't like them, okay. - What are you bad at? - A lot of things. - We're gonna say two, and then maybe we share the third one on Patreon. - I'm gonna share the one that Matt gave me on Patreon. - Okay. - Just no man hate over here right now. - I'm just kidding. He's was funny, but I will save that one for Patreon. - Okay, the ones I thought of the first one is just, I'm terrible at laundry, and I don't want to get better. I don't care. You're better. - Longer, funny thing. - I'm terrible at laundry. - I'm just, I'm like, put it all in the wash, and put it all in the dryer, and whatever it doesn't make it, I wasn't meant to own it, because I don't want to do that. - It does hurt me that you don't hang dry some stuff. - I do hang dry some stuff, but that was mostly just because I felt like I should, because other people are talking about air drying things, probably like you, 'cause you enter in-laws, hang dry it literally everything. - I hang dry everything. - I hang dry except coffins. - But some contents I hang if I don't want them to shrink. - I know. I really just dry like towels, sheets, and underwear, and socks, and t-shirts. Everything else basically, and all the kid stuff gets dry, but everything else I'm basically putting on our own. - All the kid stuff. See, I hang dry some of my kid stuff. They grow out of it so fast. I'm like, what's the point of it? It's okay if it gets a little shrunken. - Well, I pass them on. - I do too, but. - You gotta pull those in the stuff, like, the nitty ones? - I dry all of it. - Really? - So no, I'm just terrible at laundry. And if it gets a stain, I don't care. - I really don't care. - You wanna treat your stains? - I try, but my limit of, that's enough, is I'll give it 90 seconds. - Sure. - And if it's not coming out 90 seconds, I'll wear it with a stain. I don't care. I'm bad at laundry and I don't care. - I've never noticed you wearing stained clothes. - Or am I getting rid of it? - Yeah. - My kids wear stained clothes. - Yeah. - Well, yeah, see you later, too. - And here's the thing. They're favorite clothes, so I'm like. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - They're shirts are. - Just bad. - I know. Anyway, I'm bad at laundry and I really don't want to get better. - That's okay. - That's all right. That's a good one. - Thank you. - That's a good one to be bad at. - I don't want any tips. - Okay, so you're like, no, there's. I'm not trying to get better at this. I don't need to improve. - Yeah, there's other areas in my life. I'm like, I'm gonna prioritize for this. - You want to be back. You're like, I don't want to be back in this. - I don't want to spend my time doing that. - Perfect. - Well, I'm gonna start with the one that kill gave me, because he's absolutely right. What am I unexpectedly bad at sports? - I'm surprised you were saying that. I know that's why it's surprising, because I was a college athlete for one semester. - One semester? - But listen, I was really good at one sport. - Okay. - And it makes sense why? Because here's why I'm bad. I think athleticism means that you can pick up things fast. You don't have to be the best at the sport, but you are coordinated. You have good response times, you're quick, you can catch and throw a ball. I cannot do any of those things. And the sport that I was really good at, I slapped in the air, and I flung my body around in all directions. Like, it didn't take a ton of coordination to be good at volleyball. So that's why we're offending all the volleyball players. - No, I think they would agree with me. If you're not catching anything, you're not throwing like, there's obviously a lot of skill. But if I'm thinking about coordination, you don't have to be the most coordinated to be a really great volleyball player. And I'm just not the most coordinated person. So then when it comes to other sports, yeah, at any time I catch a ball that killed those in me where I was like, oh my gosh, I'm gonna throw all the balls. Anyway, it goes great job, babe. You know, it's like, wow, we're all surprised when I catch something. So I know, I'm like, wow, I'm getting better. So I'm pretty bad at athletics. I'm fast, I'm strong, I'm agile, but I'm not coordinated. Unfortunately, I fall a lot, pretty clumsy, and my son takes after me. It's bad, because even just falls and doesn't catch himself at all. And he was standing on a kids chair when we were over the weekend. I think you forgot that he was on the chair and he just turned around and I've never seen a more perfect belly flop onto the tile floor from an elevated surface and he just stand up and grabs his ribs. And I'm like, but he didn't stop yourself at all. He fell face forward. Did he even try to catch himself? No, he didn't even try to catch himself. I'm like, why'd you step off the chair of that? That was crazy. You are your mother. He's such a noodle boy. He gets it from his mom. I love it. It's so funny. It is really funny. Yeah, put him in a helmet. Not the best body control over here. Caleb used to call me, um, sure-footed gale. It's so upset. Like, come on, gale. I'm terrible at sports, but I didn't even put that because no one thinks I'm good. So think of yourself as- Honest. As- No, as an athlete among- Thank you. Like in my- In my eyes. Thank you. Thank you. How do you- Are you an athlete? You're an athlete. You dance. Yeah, I didn't do anything that really required that much like coordination. How are you in balls? I've- I've- My- My silence made that awkward. Because I was thinking. I was like, take it out right now. I'm sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Like I- I think I'm not that bad. Like, I think I'm not that bad. But I'm sometimes bad at like catching things and Blake will throw them at me. But like if you- If we're pulling- Like what- Stop it. We all bought it. Just- I was just actively thinking about my answer. I didn't go with the gutter. Um- Answer. I'm sorry. But like if we're- I'm playing catch, I feel like I'm not that bad. Okay. See, when I'm chasing a ball of really any kind, I just feel like an elephant trying to get a ping-pong ball. Like, no! [laughs] And I feel like it's like- It's so frustrating for me. I know. Like I want to put them together and there's not together. Right. And um- Yeah. I think that is hitting a ball. Like with a baseball? That. Oh gosh. With a baseball and a bat. Yeah, top ball. They was stressful enough. I was like, I can't with this in front of my whole family. You didn't. And I did. [laughs] Um- That was my first time. No, I just hate that about myself. But um- I didn't even put that on here. Another thing that I'm bad at that's athletic swimming. Unexpectedly really bad at swimming. And I did live in- The reason I sat unexpectedly is because I lived in Hawaii for a year. I didn't know- And I was in the ocean a lot. And I kind of went far distances in the ocean. Yes. And every time I was living on a prayer. Yeah. Just swimming- Swimming bad. My parents never taught me to swim. And I bring it up now. I'm like, can you never give me a sex talk? And you never taught me how to survive in water. [laughs] What were you thinking? So letting me into adulthood. What did you do as a kid to learn how to swim? You just didn't. My dad- I told my parents that, and they were like, wait, how are you guys doing? I said, win, let's put it back on them, win. And they're like, when we win for Blake's soccer on the weekends at the hotel pool with Dad. I was like, what stroke? Doggy paddle? I think they were literally just like, Abby, just turn and float on your back. Right, right, right. If you ever feel like you're dying, I was like, I just couldn't. I would literally just ride on my dad's back in the water. And then now I have a couple survival skills, but I'm never going to be able to cross long distances. I did. I swam in Hawaii from the island to another like tiny island out in the water. And I was like, that was incredibly irresponsible because I don't know how to swim. Yeah. They gave me flippers. So that really helped everyone had flippers. It was a long distance. I did it. Yeah. Didn't should never do it again. Yeah, no. Also, just it was bad. That was one of those things that you're like in the moment, you're like, this, this was a bad idea. You know, it's halfway to that island. I was really like, oh, we got more. No one could save me. Right. Did you get claustrophobic from that? Because you have claustrophobic? From the mask. Uh-huh. Yes. I remember when we snorkeled and you were like, you know, but you were trying not to. I've had before. But yeah, I just hate wearing those masks. I'm claustrophobic. Okay, so when I tell people I'm like, my kids are better swimmers than me, I mean that. Like it's not a joke. It's funny. Sure, it's funny. It's funny and it's sad. It's funny because it's sad. But I can't swim. And my kids are really good at swimming. Yeah. I don't remember. I don't remember thinking. Oh, she's like a really bad swimmer. But I remember thinking, oh, she's not as strong in the water as I would have expected. I think that's a good thing. No, we were in the water all day long. Yeah. I'm in there. I'm in there. I was like, she is. I can't sad. Don't get myself out there. She is giving an effort. She's working. She's working really hard. Yeah. Just congratulations. Just praise the effort. It was not the outcome. I was like, wow. She should go back. Should we go back? No, you're good. I'm not good. That's why. My second one is waking up in the morning. Do you know this about me? I feel like you're good. No. I set my alarm 30 minutes before I have to wake up so that I can, because I have, I always hit snooze. It's just a discipline thing, but I usually don't even really hear my first alarm, because I'm that deep in asleep. Does it just turn itself off? No. I always turn it off. Oh, you're just not aware of it. I just, yeah. I'm like, but I'm waiting for it. If someone has an alarm set that's not for me, I don't hear it. I'm not waking up to someone else's alarm. Okay. Ever. Ever. But it's like, if I set my own alarm, I will hear it. Okay. I don't know. It's like, if I don't have to wake up, I'm not waking up. Okay. If I don't have to wake up, I will hear my alarm. But I have to set it for 30 minutes before it and it has to go off a couple of times before I'm like, time to wake up. Like, I just, it's really hard for me to get out of that. 30 minutes before you wake up. Yeah. So it's like, if I had to be up at 6.30, I'm setting my alarm for 6. Okay. Maybe 5.45 to gradually get me up so that I'm out of bed on time. Oh, okay. Yeah. I just don't wake up. Maybe you should get like one of those alarm clocks at like, no, it doesn't work. No, no, no. That starts turning down the sound machine, turning up the brightness. No, I know. We have one of those. It doesn't work. No. You think that's going to wake me up out of my slumber? Maybe we should just put a vibrating thing under your bed. No, I think I need some like, some sharp jolt. Caleb, we, I got him one of those sunrise alarms. Yeah. I'm like, my eyes are closed. What do you mean the light comes in? We could have the blinds fully open daylight. That would not wake up. Hmm. So you're telling me your eyelids are blackout shades. My eyelids are, I think, as a blackout curtain. Like, I never understand when Caleb or my mother, like, Caleb, a little tiny blue light on our fan in our bedroom has to be covered every single night. I didn't even know that light existed. And he's like, I can see it. I'm like, are your eyelids paper mache? What is the issue? You got shares. You got blackout shades. The lights are off. Like, right now, I could, it's black. Mm-hmm. Wait, I agree. That's like my mom. My mom needs every single light off. I could have a TV on. I could take a nap in here with the studio lights on. And did you have trained myself that way? So like, I could tune out sounds and tune out light. But that makes it really hard to wake up. Mm-hmm. Because not much, it takes a lot of effort. Kids are that way too. My kids are that way as well. Yeah, so it's really hard for me to wake up in the morning. I'm surprisingly bad at it. But I become an adult and I'm like, well, I have to get out of bed. I become an adult. Right. I didn't use to. Against my own will. There's no excuse. I can't sleep till 9 a.m. You know? Yeah, I remember that actually in New York, we were all sleeping together. We all. I was ready to go still. I wasn't going to bed. Addie went to bed first. I went to bed first and I was. We were still talking. Yes. I was still my first trimester, guys. I was. Yeah. I travel day in the car. Honestly, that should be. That should be better. I want to just don't take that. But no, typically I will go to bed first and wake up first. Did you wake up first? I think you did. Probably. And we were still sleeping. We're like, we want bagels. Just wake me up. If I wake up naturally on my own. You woke us up. Sorry. Actually, I think you were like. No, it's because Abby told me to set up the alarm. You did, dude. And then it was going off and she wasn't waking up to it. Oh my god. Oh my god. You guys are connecting. And I was waking up to your alarm. I was like, okay, if you set this. No. You're waking everybody else up. I don't set an alarm. I will sleep till 9 a.m. Marie says. 10 a.m. Wow. 11 a.m. I would just sleep. She turned off his alarm and doesn't know. And he's like, why don't you wake me up? I'm like, you turned off your alarm. I thought you knew what was going on. Yeah, that's what matters, too. Actually, this is really bad. I probably told this story to you guys before. But when I worked at top golf. I had a shift at like 1.30 in the afternoon. Have I told this story before? No. You slept through it? You guys. I woke up in the morning and I was like, oh, it's only 9 a.m. I don't have to work till 1.30. I'm going to go back to sleep. I woke up at 2.30 p.m. And I woke up in an hour after my shift started. And I called, it was the most embarrassing call in my life. I called my boss and I'm like, I'm sorry. I overslept. Does that make sense? It was like 2 in the afternoon. And he was like, huh? And I'm like, I will probably get fired. It's okay. I didn't. But 2 in the afternoon, I slept. Is that not the most insane thing you've ever heard? Where did you go to bed then? I think I probably said it's like 2 or 3 watching TV. Okay, but that's still over. It was a long time. Even I was like sick about it. I'm like, this is irresponsible. My gosh. So what I say, I don't wake up. I don't wake up. And that's all I have to say. A lot of alarm. Let's rephrase this. Let's rephrase this. This isn't something you're suppressing you bad at. This some of you're suppressing you. Good at sleeping. Oh, you're right. I see your talent. I see you. Okay, we'll do our third ones on Patreon. And then we wanted to kind of couple this with maybe some things that we wanted to do to get out of our comfort zone. So we'll share two here and then one on Patreon. Okay, and we'll just continue this segment over there. But what are some things we talk about? Things we're good at. Things we're bad at. But I think it's really easy to like live in that lane for a long time and just say, I'm really good at this. I'm really bad at that. And never push ourselves out of our comfort zone to gain new skills. Good point. Especially as adults. Especially. Like I'm like signing my kids up to try all kinds of new things. And I'm like, this is the last time I've tried something new. I know. Think about how uncomfortable that would be for me. So I have to have a little grace for them. Something I really want to get better at that I've said forever I'm bad at is running. I do, I do want to get better at it. But wait, I want to wait until I'm done having kids. I don't want to start. I don't want to start until I'm done. And I don't want to start seriously. I want to, I'll do casual because I don't think it's ever just going to be like 0% to like, oh, we're 100% running. I'm going to start casual. I'm never going to go over three miles. But once I, what? You could. No. I could. I could. And that's what I'm going to do. Yes. I'm going to get on my comfort zone and do it. Okay. Eventually. But I do eventually want to get good at running. Because I just feel like for longevity purposes for myself. I don't know. Yeah. I want to be able to run. And I also feel like it'd be good with maybe I could, I don't know. It's the best exercise when you travel and stuff because you just put your shoes on. That's what I think about. It's so nice. Even just at my house, like if I have 30 minutes, I don't have time to drive to a gym. I could just go for a run. Yeah. So nice. I've given it a shot before. Remember there was a semester I literally ran a jogged three miles multiple times a week for a whole semester. I just never got easier. But you know what? I was doing a treadmill. And I think that if I ran outside, I could, I would have to, I'm going to have to do this. What I'm going to have to blast through so many mental walls. But I'm putting this on the internet because I do want to get better at it and it will make me uncomfortable. This is my hot topic about running because I ran for a long time. I don't think of, I don't think three miles ever gets easier. Really? Yeah. I think it's, I call it the three mile hump. For me personally, this is how it feels. Once I get past the three mile mark, the miles after that, then you get in the rhythm and it just feels like your legs are in rhythm. The cardiovascular, strenuousness of it, subsides. But those first three miles are all cardiovascularly pretty tough. But once you go past three, you're in rhythm and your body adjusts. I don't even care if I do it fast. I just don't want to start walking. Yeah. Ten minutes is fine. Yes. I think hot to everybody could run a 5K if they like, yeah, I did last year for Thanksgiving. I had checked with Matt so many times before that freaking turkey truck. I was like, we're just walking, right? Yeah. I wore my Amazon tennis shoes, cute, but not good to run in. And I had a wire bra on. That's criminal. Yes, criminal. And then Matt starts taking off with the wagon. And so we ran the whole thing. Yeah. Ran is a stretch. I think it was like 10 minute miles. But I was like, well, gosh dang counts. I think I'm running right now. Yeah. I know. I know, that's a good one. I'm proud of you for that. Thank you, I'm excited to be with you. I'm excited to be with you. I was supposed to do it before Vivian's first birthday, but I was not going to do it this summer. That was just way too hot. By the time it was too hot. It is like nerve-wracking signing up for adult lessons of something. I just think it's a very communal sport. It's something that I would have a lot of fun doing with Caleb. When we go now, he plays with his left hand, and it's not fun. I haven't been good at it. You're kind of good at table tennis. I am a little bit good at it. Secret talent. Secret talent. I'm not good enough because then people will ask to play. There's too many ping pong tables around to be tested on that. Of course. So I don't want to be tested on it. I don't want to be tested on it. I want to just say I'm good at it, and then no one ever watch me actually play. I'm terrible at table tennis. Okay. Ironically enough, I did put pickle ball as something I want to get better at. I want to play with it. The reason is, is because I feel like there's always an occasion where someone's asking me to play. I'm just asking me to play pickle ball, and I'm just humiliated every time. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And so I don't want to play because I don't want to get better at this because I personally want to be better. It's just because I want to not be embarrassed. Yeah. That much every single time. Sure. I mean, I have no shame, but I mean, it would just be a little bit more convenient for everybody else. I could play a little bit better. It's no fun playing a sport you're bad at for anybody. And there's something people try to explain to me the rules, and I'm like, they're like, "Yes, this is the case when this happens." But not the case in this case, in this case. I'm like, I feel like this could just be the same setup as tennis. There are a lot of rules for you. It's a different game. I always forget about different rules every time I play. I want to be better just so I don't inconvenience everybody else. Sure. And I just want to actually, I don't even need to be good. Like, I want to be enough to hold a game. Sure. To not, every time it comes to me, it's like, like, we're out of play again. Yeah. Oh, sure. The other person's always having a hospital size. I'm just in the way on the core at this point. And it's once again just an elephant with a ping pong ball. Like, no. I can't do it. Mm-hmm. That's good. I understand. Okay, thank you. My second one. Yeah, I'll try to think like, okay, well-rounded. We used to be very good about this. And since we've had kids, and Kielb's work hours are crazy, we just don't really invite people over for dinner to our house at often anymore. I don't agree with that. I mean, it's like, I don't invite you guys over. But not outside of that, really. Okay. And so, like, inviting new people in. Mm-hmm. I don't really invite new people in for dinner. It's so easy to do. It just takes effort. And I think it's good for us. And I think it's good for our kids. Because when I think about the people that have really impacted our life. And even like, mid toward us, when we were in Kansas City, they had three young kids. They would have us over for dinner once a week. And so we'd go through content, like, Bible study together. And we would have dinner with them. And that we were there for hours at a time. And it was so life-giving to us. And it was so beneficial. And I'm like, man, if we just invite people into our home, you know, how much we would be benefit from it. And our kids. But also, hopefully, that person too. But yeah, I just haven't done it. We've been really out of the habit. And Kielb keeps bringing it up that he wants to do it. But it just honestly feels really uncomfortable, like, planning time, social battery effort. And all those things are just lame excuses. It's good for me. But it's so much better. The benefits are so much better than those things, you know? Yes. I was talking to Blake about that, actually, because I'm like, we've lived in an apartment our whole entire life. And we have two big dogs. So we don't really invite people over, really ever. And so I'm like, just seeing that. I want to start inviting people over when we move in our house. Yeah. We live kind of far away. So, Morgan, I'm going to start inviting people over, because he's not as social. But I feel like he's more social in his own home. Like, he doesn't want to go do things with people. He would rather just be at his house when he can. Yeah. He's in control of the situation. Yeah. Maybe he knows enough in advance. He can, like, keep some reserves. Yeah. I think, too, when we moved into our apartment, it was smaller in the big dog. And then we had CJ. It just became too much to have people over in that small space. So I get that. Yeah. It's really hard when you're in an apartment. You share the rest of our Patreon? Yeah. Patreon. Okay. Let's go. Thank you to ForkFull for sponsoring this portion of today's episode. Eating well can be very difficult when life gets busy. We have many kids. And I think the number one thing that falls to the cracks is meal time. Especially for ourselves. 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So if that doesn't convince you to join me. Well, let's just do the book club. Yes. We did talk in depth about our opinions on this past month's book club just last night over there. But for those of you that didn't read the book, don't read books, don't participate in book club. We'll just do a quick synopsis so you're not super bored. But what do we think? You guys do your ratings? I gave it a 4 out of 5. I gave it a 3.75 that rounds up to 4. I give mine a 3.5 with preface that I read 50% listened to 50%, which I think dropped my rating. I don't know how people read, listen to audiobooks. I just don't feel like it's invested in the story when I'm listening. It's different. You have a bigger time in a place. You have to be in the right setting to listen. I can only do it when I'm on walks. I was driving. We're doing chores when it's like mindless activity. The only reason I didn't give it a 5, I actually really loved the book. I thought all the plot points closed really well. It felt realistic. There were so many different aspects of the book. Green friendship. Love. Sorry, excuse me. Fun travel. I don't know. I was just like, hit all these fun parts. The only reason I did it, if it a 5 is because it is a Scottish book. And I did not understand a lot of the references. And a lot of that was kind of lost on me, which meant I think a lot of the humor was kind of lost on me. And some of it was a little confusing. But not enough to where I didn't enjoy reading it. I was just like, I don't get that. I agree. Yeah. I really liked how it was like really nuanced and complex, felt very believable. There are some parts that were really funny. Some parts that were really sad. It wasn't that romantic. So if you are looking for like a lovey, lovey book. No. I wouldn't say it was that. It wasn't lovey-dovey, no. Not at all. In fact, actually it's pretty heavy, like at parts. But I never cried reading it, but it was sad. Yeah, it was sad. Yeah. I really liked it. I really thought there was one scene that just had me messing up laughing. I don't kill without that. Yeah. This was crazy. I thought it was fun. And the characters felt really believable. And I want to read more by this author. It was a really redemptive ending, too, which I liked. Yes. Totally. So good. I feel like every character had it. a redemptive arc. So I was just like a great book, a great book. I agree with everything yesterday. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, thanks for everyone that participates in her book club. We decided that we wanted to read a more of like a thriller book for the month of October for obvious reasons, spooky season. And we were going with the woman in Cabin 10. Yes. Woman in Cabin 10. We're going to have a shot. Apparently there's a movie adaptation or TV show. I don't really know. I just saw the Netflix logo on the cover. Can you read the synopsis of this book? Yeah. I don't know anything about it. Okay. What's it about? That's a whole point. I like going in blind. Oh, you do? You don't like to read the paragraph on the back? I really don't. I never read that. Really? But I can read it to you if you want. It is. Yeah. I'm curious. Low black lock, a journalist who writes for a travel magazine has just been given the assignment of a lifetime. Wow. Okay. I just had an intrusive thought. Starting again. Loeb us a talent that I have reading all out. I didn't tell it. Matt's always like, you want to read that to me. I read him whole books. That's really sweet. Sometimes we're bad. Anyway, that's really embarrassing. A week on a luxury cruise with only a handful of cabins. The sky is clear. The waters calm. And the vineyard select guests. Jovial as and vineyard. It's like as Jovial as the exclusive cruise ship. The Aurora begins her voyage in the picture picture. Ask North Sea at first. Low stay is nothing but pleasant. The cabins are plush. The dinner parties are sparkling. And the guests are elegant. But as the week wears on, frigid winds whip the deck. Grace guys fall in low witnesses. What she can only describe as a dark and terrifying nightmare. A woman being thrown overboard. The problem all passengers remain accounted for. And so the ship sales on as if nothing has happened. Despite low desperate attempts to convey that something or someone has gone terribly wrong. Terribly terribly wrong. There was a couple of typos actually in that book description. But I'm interested. Heather reminds me of that. Amy Bradley is missing documentary on Netflix. Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's a little different. If everyone's accounted for it, what's going on? Are we in? I'm in. Okay. Okay, voicemails. Ask, ask, ask, Abby. Hi, Abby, Abby and Abby. This is Carly. And I'm just wondering is it cool or criminal? Is your spouse's toothbrush? Why did we just talk about this so much? Literally we have talked about this so much bad night. I think we're splitting our house. I think it's criminal. Caleb doesn't think it's criminal. There's only, there's got to be two in a marriage. I'm like, what do you mean? You've been using it my toothbrush. Well, he's like, well, just you pick what a turbo one's available. Now we have very distinct linked different toothbrushes. And so it's not a problem. But when we had similar ones, he's like, I'll just pick what everyone was on top. I'm like, what? What? What? Are you sick? It's disgusting. Are you, you don't think it's weird? I still not. Oh my gosh. I'm so sorry. I'm sorry. No, probably. I'm horrified. Sorry guys. Oh my god. It's different than kissing. It's like plaque and bacteria and mast you know. Yeah. I see where you're coming from. Yes. Oh my gosh. In high school my sister and I shared a bathroom and we are toothbrushes were in the same drawer. And for the longest time, I was like, why is my toothbrush wet? Why is my toothbrush wet? And then finally I was like, hey, why is my toothbrush wet? She's like, that's my toothbrush. And the whole time we were using the same toothbrush for weeks. I cried. But yeah, it's still gross. Hi Abby and Abby. My question for you all is, how do you think you know when it's time to stop having kids? I am in love with the idea of having a huge family, but I just don't know when I'm going to be able to tell when enough is truly enough. Thank you guys so much. I love your podcast. I've actually, this is my fear. So I have asked a lot of moms about this because a lot of moms that are like have like express that they're done. I was like, okay, how did you get there? Especially if they seem like a similar type of personality to me. And so this one of my neighbors actually has been so sweet and helpful for me. She's like, I was so afraid that when I got to that number that she said that I would want to keep going. And so she's like, I actively just prayed for peace when we had, or like, contentment once we had our last. And she's like, and I'm telling you, like, by the time we, for her was four, she's like, as soon as I had my four, she's like, and I was worried my whole pregnancy because she's like, I was just like never like, she was like anticipating that. And she was like, and by the time I had my fourth, I cannot tell you how like there was just so much comfort in like everyone's here. And like, I just, I had that like comfort that like everyone was here. And that is what I was just like keep like actively like praying and just like trying to not anticipate it too. I don't know why it's that way. Like, I know that not everyone struggles with this because I feel like some people just have like so much certainty about like that type of thing, or maybe their spouses are just like, oh, I'm so much or I don't know, maybe they don't like being pregnant or like things like that. So that's right. That's my advice. Just pray for content in peace. That's great. That's just kind of vague. Or guess how you know, I guess, is like, just pray for that. Like, pray for clarity on that. Yeah. I think that's great advice. I heard this in a sermon from Johnson McCluda. I think it's applicable to people that are believers and aren't believers, but you want to have as many kids that you can disciple well or that you can pour into really well. And so it's like if you're at your capacity at four and you're like, hey, I already feel so stretched like adding another would almost feel like irresponsible. Like, I wouldn't be able to give these kids the attention and time that I feel like they need or want. Then maybe that's a good time to kind of reconsider. So I feel like that's kind of like a practical thought. But then also, I do believe that if you have another kid, you will, your capacity will grow. So I feel like there's kind of like a double edge sword to that. But I think in your head, it's like, okay, I just want to make sure that I can really love, and maybe your number is 12 or 15. Like, I don't know what it is. Every person's going to be so different about it. Like, you're like, no, I can manage that. But yeah, I don't know. I haven't really, I haven't really worried about that. I thought about that too much because I feel like in my head, I'm kind of certain on my number. But I think it's what I could probably handle well. Is that many? Yeah, I don't know why I just always afraid of that. I'm so sad that the thought of being done. And I don't want to be that way. Like, I want to like feel like, because that's a weird thing to be sad about in my opinion, because it's like, you're making humans. Like, why would we, what's meant to, I want to believe that like, we've met, I don't like the thought of like, have we not met some kids out? We couldn't meet like, I don't know, because I just, you see them grow up and you're like, oh, how you're so unique. And like, I think about how many of like, I don't know. It's so fun to get to know each of them. Oh, it's the cool thing. And so in the world, I'm just always thinking that because even me, I'm like, I don't think I wouldn't say like, I love being pregnant. But also, I do really like it. And I do really like, I like every aspect of it. So then I'm like, man, I don't, maybe you just hate one part of it so much that you're like, it's enough that I don't do it again. Maybe you hate birth so much or maybe I don't know. Yeah. I feel like for a lot of people, that's probably it. Like, yeah, we have a friend that was like, I am certain that I'm not going to have kids anymore, but the door is always open. Like, I never say that we're like, she's like, I'm done being pregnant, but there might be another kid that we have one day. And so there is that. For sure. I feel like when it comes to motherhood and parenting, it's really sad to think, oh, the baby stage is over, but you're just moving along with your kids into the next stages. Yeah. And then it's like, okay, you can be sad of the baby stages over, but now we get to be really excited for it, the middle school stage, the high school stage. And so I think that's just like when you're in the process of the baby phase, it's really hard to picture life beyond that. Yes. But I think as your oldest kid gets bigger, you probably start to see, oh, that's where we're headed. Yes. And then it kind of maybe, I don't know if this is true. I'm just like assuming. But maybe you're kind of like, okay, it's time to wrap this up and we're preparing now for that. Yeah. So I could see too as our kids get older and we start to see the things that they get into and have interest in what that will take from us. Right. And that also probably will influence our number, you know, in some ways. I was just thinking about that today when I was looking up real, I think I was changing the diaper and I was like, what am I going to have to pie trainer? And then we're not going to be papers anymore. Yeah. I don't know why that came across my desk. Um, came across my desk. I know that you're like, that's the next thing. I was like, wow, that's the next phase. I know. I should walk in. She doesn't understand. She's been walking. Yeah. She's like, she's like very close to just full on walking instead of crawling. She takes a billion steps. It's just faster to crawl at this point. Yeah. Oh my, she's such a fast girl. Yeah. She is a really fast crawler. She's a toy she wants. I love that. And she snatches things. Yeah. That's that. All right. Last one. Hi, Abby. Abby and Adi. I love the podcast I listen every week. My name is Maya and I'm currently a senior in high school And I am studying abroad for my second semester this year. I'm wondering what suggestions do you guys have of American snacks or like fun things that I should bring for my host family. Thanks for the same guys. Oh Thank you, Maya. You're doing that in high school? Second semester of high school, like some people do in high school. Like an exchange student type of thing. Yeah. Oh That's really that's big. Yeah. I we had one exchange student in our school from a different country He's very popular because everyone's like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. We had one too Um Okay, some snacks American snacks you have to bring over. Well, you should throw in a pack of hot dogs I was thinking Trader Joe Get a pack of ranks, bring them over. Eat all of them. No, I can't know chips with like sorry Let's seriously think about this. Oh, I want that so bad right now. I feel like the candies will travel well You need barbecue chips. Okay, I'm trying to think of candies that they wouldn't have like internationally all of them They're all different. They don't have Reese's I know you don't have Reese's Kiss people are like what the heck is a peanut butter in your and you're kind of like I don't know I don't know actually people are addicted to it I don't necessarily like right and that stays like peanut butter I love Reese's no after having the Trader Joe's version. I can't you right? The dark chocolate ones. Yes, when you get the milk chocolate You're like yeah, but even just like the real peanut butter and the Trader Joe's one's first of the Reese's and like it's just not the same They have so much you said you should watch Jolly videos on YouTube they're they're brits that come over and they'll get all American food and they'll take it back I thought they always hate it a lot of it. They hate the you know what they loved biscuits and gravy They loved it. Yeah, I loved it. On fact, they bring a pack of gravy I'm really can't thank of anything. Just go to Trader Joe's go through the aisles get some fun snack All right, I could be a lot of chips flavor experience funky flavors of like Pringles or like Yeah, I mean they probably want Oreos Oreos are good bring up some talkies. I don't like talkies But I think they're maybe like talkies. You know something space. Do it hot Cheetos. They definitely don't have red 40 over there So bring up some of that bring whatever Wherever it is. We don't know where it is, but they don't have it. Right. We know they don't have it So then don't go to Trader Joe's now they don't use that so you need to go to Walmart and Bring him some all the strange flavored I bet they don't have cheeses and those are good in those market. Oh, yeah That's funny. Oh bring up some cereal. Get a material. Oh, yeah Probably like lucky charms but you pebbles pretty pebbles That's a good question. I love that. It's pretty fun. Good for you. I feel like I definitely actually I know I would have been way too scared to do that in high school So I'm proud of you. It's amazing. That's really good for you. Yes. I think I'm gonna go to the store after this on my way home and get Ruffled chips and French onion dip now You know the conversation and a gallon of milk for real. Yeah, she should definitely bring a packet of the range tips Seasoning and some ruffle chips and make them some range dip and chips I do is that all that is and some sour cream. It's just sour cream and ranch. It's literally a container of sour cream and the powdered ranch packet Oh my gosh, it's fantastic. I always thought people were doing a crazy homemade. No, no, no It was very consistently the same flavor, especially I did there's a theme. Oh, it's hungry. Oh, oh, how long do we talk for? Two hours and 27 minutes fantastic people said they do love our long episodes They also said they'd be down for two a week, but we can't shorten them. I did see this comment Would still be this long anyway, even if we tried I don't think they'd get Wait till tomorrow's episode Did I share my Lebanese ground beef recipe? You you were supposed to share that with me. Okay. I'll share it on the podcast again if I already have I'm sorry, but We make this. Oh, I make it at least once a week in our house and it's very delicious. It's very simple you dice a yellow onion saute it throw in your ground beef and Cook it up and you season the ground beef with salt pepper and all-spice that is it you can get all-spice a walmart It sounds hard to find, but it's really not and I for measurement sake I would say do like a teaspoon and a half of all spice, but it's really hard to say that because I usually just eyeball it But just know that a teaspoon and a half in general is good and if you want to add more later, you could always add more Then you saute it you mix in the seasoning you have some toasted pine nuts Throw them in there and then you just drizzle a bunch of lemon on top a whole lemon juice it and that's it It's really simple. It's really easy. It's so delicious. You can get a big bag of pine nuts from Trader Joe's for $10 this Well, that you can get like 15 to 20 yeah, but the Trader Joe's bag last me. I mean 10 of these Dishes, so I just do like a handful of them maybe like a quarter cup of pine nuts toasted. It is so good You can make it write that down for me. I will put it in the show. Let's put it in the show Okay, I'll take it to you, but you can eat it with you can make it into a green bowl You can make it well. I'll just make cabbage or rice sort of rice. It's so good with a veggie. It's simple It's delicious. It was really good in those grieples So good what I made it for you guys to see you good veggies. I mean, it's just it's so versatile I know if I would like it and I did I love it with lentils I mean, it's just so flavorful young and simple My meal that we were actually Someone made this for a meal trade and I was like please Teach me your ways because that was incredible and it was very nutritious too and it just felt so good Especially like postpartum. It's oh my gosh. There's so many things I will say there's a lot of things in it, but it's really easy to pull together So I'm gonna pull it up right now or should I just show my little? Like it has a lot of ingredients and Yeah, there's a lot of components. It's a bowl No, she just had she's kind of whipped this together and then she told chat GBT How do I make this a recipe? This was my look at that right there. Oh, yeah, okay? So it has a Rougola, which I love a Rougola. Yeah, a Rougola cilantro lime rice Feta ground turkey cilantro the cilantro I'm dressing you honestly have to get the primal foods one It's so good. That is such a good dress. They are so good corn black beans I used pickled red onions because I really like those and I discovered that I really like those But you could use raw red onions as well lime avocado I mean all those there's a lot of ingredients, but they're all easy. Yeah, and oh sweet potatoes Do I say that now roasted sweet potatoes really yummy? Yeah, I don't know why all these flavors come together and they are just It's so good. I feel like even just you could use it in any season and swap it out make it It was really good and Matt and I were both just like eating good our kids loved it because we could deconstruct the elements Because I feel like if I mix it all together, they wouldn't eat it, but um they love turkey sweet potato rice perfect There you have black beans a crunchy chickpea in that would be really good. Oh, okay, add it to the list add it to the list of ingredients So good and I feel like sometimes we need as the seasons change. We need a Recipe you refresh so try those out less know what you think and if you want more recipes We also have more on our patreon too. Do we do? So yeah, thank you to everyone who listens who supports our podcast make sure you remember to like Comment subscribe All the things. Yeah, if you guys want to call and leave a voicemail the number is 602 456 9690 and maybe while you're calling you leave us a review We love your reviews. They're really helpful for people finding our podcasts And we just love to read them too and just know that what we're saying you guys resonate with Snicky said you will surely love this podcast five stars I appreciate the realness from these ladies week after week Tuning into listen every Friday is my mini break from my house full of boys Mom of two little guys and I feel like I just get to hang with the girls for a while They make postpartum feel a little less lonely and are simply distant members of my village Thank you Abby at baguille and atty. That's really So sweet. Thank you so much for that review and glad that we can feel like your village and that what we say Hit home with you you guys Appreciate y'all. Yeah, you're having a great week or weekend and Remember we're always here