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They can all s*ck your d@#k!

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They can all s*ck your d@#k!

The conversation blends personal anecdotes and professional insights, centered around a weekend of misadventures and reflections on discipline, resilience, and routine. The speaker recounts a series of chaotic events, from missing a flight due to cost concerns to being stranded in Charlotte and losing a pair of headphones at a Virginia hotel—highlighting the unpredictability of modern life. A key narrative centers on a boxing journey, inspired by his father, where he emphasizes the mental and physical rigor of training, the importance of community in gyms, and the discipline required to maintain consistency. He shares a detailed daily routine involving early morning workouts, work, running, and boxing training, which he views as essential for both physical health and mental clarity. The experience of losing a fight is acknowledged as emotionally devastating, but recovery through coaching, rest, and reflection is crucial. The speaker contrasts the intensity of boxing with stand-up comedy, noting that both require focus, preparation, and emotional control. He underscores the value of routine, self-awareness, and resilience—especially in the face of failure—as tools for long-term success. Ultimately, the narrative celebrates perseverance, the power of discipline, and the quiet strength found in consistent effort.

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What's going on, beautiful people? Happy Memorial Day. What'd you do? Stay in and get the rain like we did. It's Tuesday, May 26th. The church of what's happening now. What is New Testament? New Testament. The power of Christ compels you, motherfucker. How's everybody doing? Lee, what's happening, brother? Oh, good weekend. But I don't know. I got to go to better help. I gotta do something. I've been fucking up. I don't know what it is. I missed my first flight. Oh, you missed a flight. I should have missed a flight with you, but you were nice and held it for me. I was being fucking cheap. They wanted 150 for an Uber from New York to JFK. I don't want to do that. It's all part of the business. I should have, but I make 400 for the weekend, so they don't want to do 150 for that. So then I was like, I'll take the train to JFK. The one you wanted me to take when we shot the documentary. I found the train. I was I ran to I was sweating. You still sweat. I'm still sweating. I missed it by two minutes. A bunch of people missed the flight, but I, oh, I was so pissed. And they wanted me. They put me on standby for the 830, like four hours later. And six people would have had to miss the flight. So I drove to Charlotte this weekend, drove to Charlotte. And then yesterday I drove back, stopped in Baltimore, got some crab into the spot in Baltimore. So overall, a good weekend. But have you ever missed a flight? In the early days, I miss them on purpose. I get so fucked up. I don't want to get on that flight. I don't get on the next one. I've dude, I'm a nerd. I'm not, I've never done it. It sucks. But the weekend was good. I was a weekend. I just start going out a little early. Yeah. That's it. You already played with fire twice. It's time for you to go, you know what? Two hours before. You're a computer guy. You got to compete with me. I go to the airport. I don't know how to log on. So I'm sitting there with no internet. Like a fucking idiot. That's a gate. Listen to my phone or music. You guys got computers. And you know how to log in to pee. I still have a plane with no internet. Your phone has internet with a Wi-Fi. Huh? Your phone has internet. That's what everybody tells me. I don't, it's never that for me. Never that for me. And then you get on your night and there's no fucking internet. You got to buy it tonight before they don't take cash. You know, what the fuck? You try to pay for internet with cash. Why not? Cash is the best. Oh, that's the last I checked. No, they don't take cash. They don't take cash in the airport. No, you got to go fucking papalists like you. They won't take a dime from you. I love it. I would, I love to see you offer a flat attendant cash for the wife. Always do. I've been off an old bitch's money since Jesus left Chicago. That's the only way you get service. You don't thank God. But it was good. How was your weekend? You had a week with mercy. I had the weekend with my daughter. It was quite the, it was great. I mean, you know, there was not much to do. She only asked me to drive her to a few places. We sat at home at night. She watched me play grand theft auto and act like an asshole. You know, that was it. This fucking rain. I was just talking about this Memorial Day weekend. We had rains since fucking Thursday. Yeah. Since Thursday. It was like it broke you. Saturday. I got up. Sunday morning. I got up at 730 p. And it was like fucking coming down. So I was like going back to bed. No reason to get up and drink a cup of coffee in the rain. Yeah. Like an asshole at 730 in the morning. But what do you want from me? That's the best. And then have you ever had anyone steal something from you at a hotel? Yeah, dude. So I was, I was going to charlotte by myself. And then when I missed the flight, I picked up my wife because I had to work down the day. So I, I would draw, she drove down. We left a pair of headphones at a hotel in Virginia. We called on the way back up yesterday. And I'm like, Hey, because you can track them. I'm like, Hey, they're there. Like, Oh, we don't see him. We don't see him. We can see him moving around. We get to the hotel. They didn't, first of all, they didn't call me. Said we left a pair of headphones, which they should have done. We get to the hotel. We tracked the headphones to the dumpster. Someone put them at the top of the dumpster in a bag just because the, just to steal them. I do people are so, it's gone crazy out there. Us from a service is that as fucking all time work. So if you leave something at a hotel, just your thought, you're fucked. If a nice Mexican lady finds, and she's Catholic, maybe, but besides that, some white animal finds it, you're fucking done. My guest today is my brother, young kid. I met him about two years ago. I love this motherfucker. John body shot Leonardo. It's up everybody. Get until the mic. God damn it already. It's up, everybody. What's going on, brother, man? You know, same stuff. Thank you for coming on. Appreciate you guys. You had a big fight. The 13th of June. Yes, sir, probably this day weekend. Yeah, for my pops, man, doing it for him. So, you know, he works at you in the ring. Yeah, he coached you, trainer manager, trainer manager. Good. What else has happened? Like 24 year old. No, 26 now. 26 Holy shit. Crazy. And you went pro when you were 20 originally from Manila, man. Yes, sir. What made you want to fucking hit people in the face? That's, they get started on my father. My father is a retired professional. So, you know, I jumped in it because of him. You know, I copied every move that that guy made, even some of the bad ones. But, you know, jumping into this was, you know, can I do it? Can I do it? Can I do it? And finally one day said, all right, you know what? You could do it. Let's see if you got what it takes. Turns out I got what it takes. So here I am 13 years later, still going, still doing it. I'm bless you, man. That's a tough fucking angle. If you think comedy's hard, that's a fucking tough angle. How many? You just people don't laugh. With this shit, you get pushed in the fucking head. That's not where they'll say. And I bet people would get fun here. If somebody had to stick with a boxing glove in the audience. And every time he said a bad joke, they just, they just joke. I've always been a big boxing guy. Like I love watching it. I grew up in the golden age of boxing. You know, like, everybody was fucking good. People have no idea about this. I don't talk a lot about this shit. Once a week, I will get high. I do it four times a week. But once a week, I'll pick a fight. And I'll get high. And I'll call Rogan at one in the morning. And we'll talk about this fight. I'll make him pull on his computer. And we just talk like last week, it was Mugabi against somebody Durana something fucking two animals. And we came up with the conclusion that in the 70s and early 80s, people did not care about fucking E PD. Well, that's shit. CTE, when you forget it. Yeah. So when you was the beginning, a haggler time has heard none of them would think it about CTE. Now it's called one of the greatest round, first rounds of all time. They just went out there and started punching on each other. That's a difference between that. And now I think I think people you go into the ring. You listen, if you think about getting hurt, you're going to get hurt. Yeah. Of course. You know, if you think I'm going to get hurt, if I do, if I do gymnastics, you don't get hurt. So if you go into a fight, thinking, you know, and it's a sad, I truly believe in it. But I love, love them. When as I got older, I started checking up benefits of boxing for old people. And they were like, it's the best thing you could do. The best exercise you could do when you were over 50. So I was driving by juice box every day. I didn't know what it was. I thought it was a juice place. And then finally, I went on their website. They're Mexicans. I got no website. They have like a little fucking blurb juice box. Yeah. We got Instagram. Yeah. We don't got no website. We use Instagram. And I went in there and I met you. I met your dad. I've met some fucking great people in there. Yeah. We got characters in there. Bro, that is fucking heaven going in in the mornings. I take two hits off the bone and I walk in there and fucking Lewis doesn't even know. He's got no clue. Why do you smell different? He'll go, why do you smell different? It's fucking refluse. Yeah. That's the craziest thing is how I actually met Joey, the craziest thing was we used to serve food. So we're sitting there. We're eating and he walks in one day to just grab a juice and I look at him and look at Lewis. Lewis looks at me like, buys his juice and walks out because he had lost so much weight. I haven't seen him and, you know, in a long time. So Lewis goes, yeah, that's exactly who you thought it was. So when nobody was going to say nothing. So then the next time he came in, I went, what's up? How are you like nice to meet you? Like it's an honor to meet you. You know what I mean? Like you walked in the gym the other day. Like it's not every day like a, you know, high profile person walks into the boxing gym. Just I ran them. You know, and then we hit it off. We started talking. We started having conversation. But that was just a cool thing. You know, he liked it. I almost didn't recognize it was he had lost so much weight. I was like, whoa. But and you weren't going in there to check out boxing? You just wanted to juice? No, I went in there the first time. I didn't know what the fuck was going on. Whenever I boxed out, I was going to juice on the way and I get the fresh cantaloupe fucking tremendous and the recovery one with the honey and the honey and the gin. And I don't like honey. I'm allergic to honey and I like that fucking drink. Yeah, I got on like kids eat peanuts. I get on. I eat honey. I get all fucked up. You can talk. I have like a little red thing. Oh yeah, it makes you break out. Yeah. He picks it up anyways. I'm going to drink that song. Fuck it. Well, you know, I'm not going to die and it's good for you. Honey's really fucking good for you. We use local honey too. Yeah, local honey nice. It's got autism juice in it. Yeah. So what's the so what's the beast things you're all fucking autistic and shit? It was really You know listen, man When I walked in there You know when you're an older character like myself. I'm at the best bill guy when I walk in those gyms. I'm very insecure Very insecure. That's something like you might come up to me and say go calm bro Calm make a sweater do what all people do, you know, but I gotta be honest with you And I think that's why most people my age won't go into those places because they think they're gonna Not get bullied, but people yeah, they pop, you know this shit. I Wanted in there. I mean everybody treated me great. I mean, it's just a this time I'm hitting the bag and The guy that fought fought last week the black dude throughout I love that motherfucker He'll come all of them put the myths and come on Joey three minutes. I'll work with it It's all they're always trying to push you and then I got my friend to go down there Tricky Nikki cute girl that goes down in now with another girl that does Sweaty girl fucking they go down at I've been seeing them on Instagram and they fucking love it those two girls. Tricky Nikki calls me every night Like man, thank you for turning me on to that play. I took it down it with me And then the holidays came they got busy and then she called me one day because I'm gonna go down there With some other girl, but that's the thing about that gym. I don't care how old you are you could walk in there One of those motherfuckers come up to you. Hey man, you need me help? I mean, and you sit there and go wow and I sit and watch how they treat other people They treat other people the same It's just one of those places that they encourage you I'm gonna go there till I die I'm gonna either die there like I don't want to die on yet because I got no reason not to go there I got no reason not to go I went there eight days after my knee surgery Would I go anywhere else? No, but I know if I fall and break my leg. I got loose. I got you I got big Joe. I got the Puerto Rican trainer. I got the four girls in the morning You know and I love going Tuesdays and Thursdays because it's girls and Those girls the big tall one the Muay Thai fighter. Yeah. Yeah, that's my girl Yeah, they're great great. They're great. You know, we got rules in our gym right so the biggest rule in our gym is It doesn't matter what level you are right and you could be a professional like me You could be an amateur. You could be someone just walking in you come in you treat everyone the same way nobody's like Oh, I'm the bastard. We don't do that at the gym That's not cool like you want to welcome these people to be the next you you know what I mean like I'm a professional. I want all the guys underneath me to be able to one day do this You know what I mean? They come in they shake everyone's hands in the gym everybody high and goodbye always always You know what I mean? Hey, good morning and then I erase the fuck out of me because I'm dying I'm at 2.30. It's about come up we joke man. Thanks for coming to the air Okay, let me keep fucking dying in here. What are you gonna do? You coming Thursday like what the fuck there's a kid dead It's talking to me about stand-up calmly now. I talked to him about stand-up calmly and But my favorite all-time there is the sister-in-law I'm gonna take a lot of that's her name. Yeah, four kids. Yeah. Oh, that's my girl though. I Went there a few months. I'm like, I don't know what's up with this girl. She's the nicest girl in the world and she always goes out of my way to help She makes all the juice, too. Yeah. Yeah, I bust the balls about that and then I saw her bring her father in He's in a wheelchair and she was holding the mit's room and I'm like This girl is a real fucking deal and I love it at that you bring me to Molly's Unsaturday's and shit. Oh, that's your to Molly. That's my to Molly hookup. Oh, it's like a fucking family down there And we both miss the fucking parade this morning yesterday. Yeah, I fucking miss the parade yesterday because this comes on on Tuesday Yeah, that's I Just drug up the story and they're all there walking down this guy. Fuck they told me to show up because they were gonna pull me They go we're gonna pull you don't even eat the walk the three miles. We'll just fucking pull you I'm like hold you in a wagon like an awakened. Yeah Podcasts. Let's go get them away. Let's go. Oh Feel bad for that dude. That's pulling the wagon. Oh, that's a long three miles He's cutting. He's cutting. Wait. It's good for you to call it exercise. Oh my god. So you you train there in a couple other places No, I that's my home gym. That's right. That's where I do most of my training and then I go sparred a lot of gyms Right, so I put on a Philly a lot of sport on a Philly. I go to Newark a lot, you know Pretty much anywhere. There's work for me to get Right, because that's how you get better. You go and sport with these guys different different level guys other professionals amateur boxers all kinds of guys. I was in camp with Stephen Fallen. He was the champ of the world Raymond Ford Who's fight in next week. Yeah, so then I was in camp of Raymond Ford. He's fighting Oshaki Foster May 30th It's coming up week a next week. I was looking forward to that. So I've been I've been in camps a world champion guys I've been a Geron Edison down there training, you know, never sport with him because I mean just to be around these guys being the gym with it lives you. Yeah, it lives you something metal sharp in his metal It's like us. We can sit in New York City at the same club every night and do comedy and kill and it's the same shit You take that same material go to Virginia and you die of slow death So that's why that's why you travel to learn the different and sometimes you go to these places too early And you're actually bomb because it's the Bible belt. You know, you don't know about all this little bullshit. That's underneath But that's how you get better by going up in front of different people and fallen hortibals You know, let me try the I'm just gonna work on the one two step out. Maybe a fucking upper cut in the left John shot body shot, you know So that's what is another kid the kids that come from Staten Island. They have a nice gym that now. Yeah They have a really nice the kid that comes over is a fuck what's the name of the gym? St. Clown I follow my bull city something We go back and forth Because they because a couple of those kids come from different gyms on Staten Island Yeah, and I can't even think one of them is hard knocks boxing gym And the City something Yeah, I'm not sure good fucking dudes man real good guys. I come down the one kid was helping me get ready for that fight It's helped me get ready for one of my last fights before I got injured and then I ended up, you know Taking a little layoff and then coming back. So he actually recently just joined this camp with me Driving up from Staten Island to give me sparring and then you know, he heads back home. So break down right now You have a fight in three weeks basically, right? What is your day consist of now on a weekly basis? I know you have a day job Yeah, I got a day job, but what is your job consist of like you get up at five and Drink eggs and run like Rocky. Yeah, pretty much so they're like the dudes. I work with it. They're crazy You know what I mean? I I get up at between four thirty five o'clock in the morning, and I either swim or Some kind of exercise. I do my swim my strength training or my yoga at five to five thirty in the morning I get to work for seven. So I work for the township and the Edison. I get to the work I work the day on lunch. I put my running shoes on. I go out and run I run two to eight miles Whatever I have time for for that day Come back to the shop. I change back and I work close. I go back to work. I leave work and I go to the boxing gym That's why I do pretty much every single day When I work a full-time job and weekends included and I sat in the mornings I just do my sparring and then some day I rest Do a lot of stuff man. Sometimes I sometimes they tell me I overdo it You know what I mean my dad and my trainers are like you know, it's time to like relax You know, but I should make gives you confidence at least you know you did the work Nothing is worse than being on the mat Knocked out and you know once you get knocked out, you know all the reasons why you got knocked out So I know something that yeah, something happens. I know I gave you know you did the work. You covered this bread That's fucking crazy and you guys that worked like I there was a guy in the UFC. That was a Big tough black dude He would just come in and beat you to fuck up something my Alexander And I you know you don't really know that's why I like 2020 all those boxing shows That tell you about like John might come out and fight and I like I don't like John But also they do a thing about your house You were your dad eating and your daughter or your girlfriend and I'm like a lot of times Yeah, I was cool. Yeah, and once I I watched that he was a single dad His wife left them with four kids He would get up with five and go to Jiu Jitsu for two hours And then get on a truck and drive for UPS till six go home cook for the kids His sister will put him to bed and he would go right back to the gentle 10 o'clock at night And back up the next day on six fucking hours. I don't know what that tells me is you're fucking serious about what you're doing Yeah, that changes are that changes everything. Yeah, you're serious about you doing talk this the only nights I sit here at six and go after world news tonight. I'm gonna go to the boxing gym You know just to see the guy I can't do it. I cannot work out at night when I was a kid I can work out all I was a day, but in my age now I got to get up and give it over with Yeah, you're not the only one You know, like I have a hard time fucking doing anything at night when I do do it I feel good about myself like you know, I'm gonna keep doing this Never go back Yeah, so I'm about like the days over. Yeah, now I gotta go fucking and I'm you know I'd rather get here at 10 9 do an hour and get the fuck out of here And I could go home and at least I did my main thing for the day, which is take care of me That's what I like, you know, so Like now I'm going to PT twice a week Strength training twice a week and boxing twice. Yeah, so you got a lot. You got a good breakdown Yeah, and that's what good mixes stuff good mix, you know, I'm gonna get old Racially I see old guys and it's true. You have no muscle left So I you see how you walk your legs gets skinny and shit. I can't let that happen. Oh joy So I'm going all I don't care if I have to sit in a wheelchair or one dumbbell and just fuck Yeah, not that you're gonna get pushed anything you just feel better Yeah, you do you just fucking feel better, man When I do something early that means I could do anything that day If I have to drive to the gym with my 63-year-old ass at 10 and say hello and listen That's more than a lot of guys my oh, yeah, trust me. So I want to get it out of the fucking way And I feel better about myself I tackled the most important thing of the day Fuck the stage. I'm gonna go on a stage and I'm ripping apart Because I've got that confidence. I feel that much better You knew you got up early and you put some work in yeah, not that it fucking not that boxing is gonna make my comedy better And not that lifting stupid weights gonna know it's the discipline Of doing it and then taking it over there. That's that's world now when I was like you guys Developing I could talk all this shit. I was not gonna do anything When I was like in the development stage of comedy. That's why I got up to 418 pounds 4 fucking 18 because I just didn't give a fuck I want to do comedy snorkelks most cigarettes and drink Coca-Cola That said I drink 30 coaks a night at the fucking club because I don't drink alcohol. Oh Well, it's uh, I have a day job and I started eight which is not it's from home. So it's easy but like Dude, that's I can't know how many days a week do you get that 5 a.m. alarm and you're like I get out of watch. I know what I'm doing for I can't believe it She's like you are like the most motivated person that I know I get up I jump out of bed and like it's time to time to get to work man because like If I don't work as hard as I can there's a shot. I might get fucked up To be honest with you right because like even it's boring nor do the gypsum times Sometimes there's an ass who'll be waiting for you Know what I mean? You're going to war every single day. And if you're not on point Sometimes you're due for an ass who open, you know, I don't want to be that guy, you know to get that ass who open It's just so I I'll I bomb and it sucks, but I'll take a bombing over an ass whooping any that sounds terrible now when you bomb on the way off the stage Do you know the reasons why you bomb sometimes you give yourself excuses like in a younger comic or do you go It's on me. Let me get this out usually. It's on me. Okay. Yeah. I try to buy try to put it on me Um, and yeah, but it's just different. It's like Even if I like was slacked off that we can maybe didn't do a couple spots A bombing hurts and it's it's the worst bomb From in the difference I think between fighting and standup Is if I bomb like the last show of a weekend and I hate it because then I have to wait till the next weekend But that's a four or five days away. I blame the audience Sometimes you ever feel like this audience was this Sometimes, but it wasn't it it sucks because then as soon as you blame the audience Joey goes up and kills the same audience But the thing with like if I the thing that always gets in my head Is if I spent six months training for a fight and I have a rough night whatever and then I have to wait another six months to fight again That would kill me. Yeah, that's not part. So if I bomb I'll go find a spot that night if I can just to get it off Like that's the that's the biggest difference is I can I can get a new spot in a lot quicker than you can get a new fight in If you ever like You know like I'm sure you don't but Like try to call up the promotion be like give me a fight next week Like just to get like just to get that stink off of you. So my one loss. I left there. I had four to kid a weight class heavier Who was three and now knock three people out cold like stiff them. They left their own a stretcher And they send this to me on a two-week notice because then I'm pulling it fell out and I look at this guy My dad goes I had sold 150 200 tickets. I mean, that's like so what are you gonna do? I'm like I'm gonna fight him What am I gonna do? Maybe they're gonna return all the tickets. I've run or I'm gonna fight him I went there. I fought him. I lost a majority decision I left there with two swollen eyes one of them swollen shut where I couldn't see nothing and the other one just black and blue and It's like you needed that recovery time So I couldn't call up the promoter and be like get him back here next week. It's like You're mentally just like not there, you know what I mean because you got hurt and like You had put so much into the camp and then that that should happen and it just breaks you, you know Yeah, I can't even imagine that would that would destroy me mentally is not being able to like wipe it off Yeah, and you have no and as a fighter You have to figure out how to wipe it off and sometimes that takes time you got to dig deep You know, I got to be like why do I do this, you know what I mean? Right after that first loss I remember I took like a week off and I went right back to the gym What a swollen eyes like it's time. Did any part of you think about quitting like retiring like fuck this shit? I don't know. I don't know if I had those thoughts I think I just had a lot of doubt my mind and at that time my other Coach had messaged me on Instagram to join our team, which was like Everything happens for a reason right God is good. That's what I thought, you know, I believe Um, you know my father's with me. He's my head trainer head manager My other assistant coach is now Dustin Fleischer. He was six and oh with five knockouts He was signed a rock nation to Jay-Z. He retired And when he's seen I lost he had messaged me through Instagram and said hey listen, I watched your fight I think I can really help you and he's been with me four years though my whole career I flipped upside down and had just improved a lot of stuff that I was missing How important is the coach? It's very important. That's who He's not in there with you, but he's the one person that's there With you outside the ring Motivating you and pushing you and teaching you Which is like You know, you need that in a fight, you know, especially when you know shit hits the fan which in a fight. It's gonna happen a lot You need that person there The between round things does that help like if they're giving you advice can you actually like Focus Maranita and like hear it or they just When your experience as I am yeah, definitely when I first started it was just like over my head You know what I mean like you're saying stuff and I'm not listening type of a deal, you know Yeah, so I can I I can't even imagine just At letting that stuff in after Between rounds you must be dead, right? No, you're not dead. I'm crazy condition. It's bumping Yeah, it's bumping jack and here's the secret to it That he'll tell you in all those rounds with 10,000 people 5,000 people and they yell and scream and You really do just hear your coach's voice That's true. You really do and you got to listen to him You'll see that he starts when he starts training you He starts talking to you from a distance and he gets louder because he wants you to know his voice So when there's 5,000 people You have to zero and that's the voice you hear That to me would be fucking tough that that's just you know unless I want up on stage with like a An earplug and you talk to me right Get rid of that joke. What the fuck are you doing? Say the joke about the mule, you know, I'm saying I'm right. Yeah, but Yeah, it's gotta be you're going into war with him. He's just not there with you Every time you get punched that coach feels it. He's there. He's yelling He's giving you instruction. He might see something that you don't see Because you're locked in on something else And you're like I never even fucking saw that So why like I'm a very amateur fan But like and I watch more UFC than I do boxing, but you'll watch a fight In between rounds the coach will be like you got to hit him with the uppercut It's open and then you go and then the fighter goes in and doesn't even try the uppercut And as a fan, I like what why is it like is it just wise to be listening? Is it like is it cockiness is it it's not open like what when when when when you see a fighter not listen to the coach Why do you think that is There's a lot of different reasons for it, but I think the The best way to like say it is is some guys think that they know it all and they don't and some dudes Are just not in that good a shape that once they get exhausted Anything that they're going to be told they're not going to listen to that's the biggest thing Ray's like you can Say whatever you want, but when you're exhausted You may just not be able to get it off, you know what I mean? Okay. It's just a completely different. Okay, I've had this theory forever. I don't know if I've been punched in the face. I don't know how you brush that off in a fight and don't just immediately quit. I don't even know what fighter it was. There was a boxer, there was two big black dudes during the announcements. One dude just left the ring. Do you remember? You've seen that? His opponent came out and he looked and he was like, "Fuck this." How do you get punched in the face? This is great. That just sounds terrible. You know what it is, too? When you do something so long, it's just like second nature. Just like anything. To me, you guys getting up on stage, I can never do that. I can never do that. It's so much easier. No, it's not. I'm bad. I'm bad with crowds. I said this to my girl all the time, too. The only time I could be in front of a crowd is when I'm fighting. You don't see me out at Bore. You don't see me out at Osprey. I don't go out into crowds. I don't do that. To get up on a stage and talk in front of a crowd. I can't teach you to do that before you can teach me the box. That I accept your challenge. Juice box next week. We get him down. Yeah. Yeah. I'll box a bag. I don't know. We're going to get to that. The actual question. Yeah. Your mom wants to see you in the sand the end. Okay. I think you ate a bag of dick that. Oh, yeah. How bad did you feel? Terrible. Okay. No, but I didn't get back in the face. It doesn't matter. That's every glistening. You don't want your mother seen you get beat up or suck on another man's dick. Okay. No, your mother's never want to see you. Okay. Your mom does not want to see you get beat up. So you just ate an egg. Listen. And I'm not picking on it. No, no. I'm talking to you from even experience. I remember years ago, Doug. And you know what I hated that dude till he died. When I heard he had cancer, I'm like, thank God. About 20 years ago, I did a show at Caroline. You remember that show? It's Latino. It was like the Latino comedy festival. And this motherfucker, you know, Lord Berg and they all come out. They all came out. I had like 80 people with people that had jobs the next day. It's Wednesday night. This guy told me my set was at 10. He put a salsa band up before me. And I had a go out there and I just ate a bag of dick because I don't even brown. They were looking at me. Who's this fucking white guy? And I remember having a drive home with them. And like your uncle was like, yeah, you got to quit. You know, like shit like that. New Jersey people, they just tell you it's time for you to quit, Doug. You know, I didn't quit. Why didn't I quit? All those beatings I took will make you quit. What would make any difference? If you get knocked out, it's something to learn from. Every bombing you fucking learn, especially when you invite all your friends. You're going to have a good night. Your girlfriend comes with the mink. Oh, yeah. And now you go up there and die a slow fucking death. And that telling you, you did great. And that even makes it worse. Oh, I know. When they tell you that you did great. That's happening. You've lost a five billion. Yeah. So that one loss is a pro that I have, right? I wasn't sad. I wasn't upset. I took like a man, me and the kid hug with shook hands, you know, good fight. I climbed out of the ring and I was undefeated at the time. So I had lost my first pro fights. I climb out of the ring. And I remember the saddest thing was my girl hugging me with tears coming out of her. I was saying, it's okay. It's okay. It's okay. And her being heartbroken and everything hurt more. Yeah. Yeah. Made me hurt more. I was like, oh, God. You know, like he was saying, like, you know, they come out looking all nice. Like, oh, after the fight, it's going to be a win. We're going to go out. We're going to have a good night. I was getting turned out that way. Do you ever have maybe not at this level yet, but I always whenever I see a fighter have like an after party that they're promoting and they they lost the fight. And they still have to go with the sun's eyes on. I can't imagine going to a club after he's ditches and you're lipped. Yeah. I heard you're going. Listen, the party's canceling. Right. I got beat the fuck up. I'm going to go out there and find my friends and people hugging you. No, no, no, no. It's that's one thing I always go. That's bossy. Yeah. The schedule and after party before a fight because you don't know what's going to happen. I always schedule. Do you always? I did. So I'm fighting in the trap of Canada. So we did a damn good sports bar. So crazy shit. We're having a good time. I get there all, you know, all my my work friends are there. My friends are there. Family fans. Everything. Having a good time. It's about, you know, but there's other people in the bar. Right. So it hits about two, two, 30 in the morning. We're hanging. Marco goes get kind of tired. I go, I will leave him like 20, 30 minutes. We'll head out because my grandmother lives down in a harbor. So we sleep down there. This way and next morning I get up. I can hit the beach. I got a coffee and just chill. No more AC. Anyway, so let me go to the bathroom and then we'll leave at 30. I go into the bathroom. People fucking in the bathroom right when you walk in. I walk out of the bathroom. I grab her and go, yeah, never mind. It's time to go. Let's get our shill. Let's get the fuck out of here. I'm done. That's it. Once it hits 2 a.m. and AC, leave. Yeah. For real. It gets bad and AC. It does. I'm like, let's just get out of here. You know what? After party's over. They tell you when you sign into the boy guy to be a comic. When you sign, they make you sign something. That says they're not responsible. You leave the property. It's whenever you're in AC, people tell you to go to that sandwich place. It's a sandwich place. White house power. No, I never heard it. And they told you. I'm a national lady going. How far away from the White House? You don't listen. We don't want you leaving. And at night, we don't want you leaving at all. Do us a favor. Call us. We'll figure out a way to get you a fucking sandwich. Whatever the fuck. That's the truth that I listen. You tell me I listen. And one time I was performing at Lanark City. And I had done my set. And I went outside just to get air. Just to see the show was too long. It was like I had a lot of stuff. I could see them already plotting. Like you can see two guys across the entrance. And when some of you walk out the guy at the entrance to do something. The two guys would follow you. I saw it. I saw it. I'm like, yeah, this is funky. Yeah. This is funky. I had a fight where, you know, what you're really not supposed to do this. But after the weigh-in, I said, I want some ice cream. I go, oh, there's a 7-Eleven. I go into the 7-Eleven. I'm like, this is the worst mistake I've ever made in my life. I grabbed ice cream and hogging does and I got out of there. You still got the ice cream? Yeah, I still got it. But I'm in there like, yo, at any moment in time, this place could get ran up while I'm in here. And why would I do this for ice cream? Yeah, never again. How long have you been cutting weight? Right now? No, at that point. Oh, at that point, I was caught and we ate for like probably about a month. About four weeks. You deserve ice cream. Yeah. Oh, man. What's better? The post-weight cut meal or the post-fight meal? That's tough. I think the probably after the weigh-in eating, right, is the best. I thought it tastes good. Yeah. Yeah. It's really good. Yeah. You know you earned it. Yeah. You either piece of shit with mustard. It's good. You're like, that was good. I'll never even again. Well, it was good. Think about it. You've been fucking living like a bumpy, fey week. Well, you still, like, you can't eat a lot because you don't want, like, you don't want to be. I can't overdo it. So I have a cycle that I follow. But I make sure I throw some sweets in there because, you know, I got to enjoy something. Right. I do, like, I do, like, sweet potato or, like, yams, and I cut them up. And I put, like, almost like Thanksgiving, like the syrup on them. I put them in the oven. That's like my, like, sweet thing. It also gives you a lot of energy. It's like-- Sweet thing. I thought it was like an ice cream. Oh, I did my ice cream too. Yeah, but, like, I have to have something sweet with every meal, like, after this. Yeah. But that's, like, my favorite thing. That's my favorite thing. I have to eat pasta. You know, I eat pasta. Yeah, of course. Got it. You know, I think the steak might slow me down, if I-- It might slow you down. Yeah. Unless it's the next day. It fights the next day. Yeah. Not bad to get a nice steak. Fuckin' lots of tail. Yeah, lots of tail sounds good. And then, fucking, fuck, upstairs, and just rest the next day. A person told me this once. And I was like, what are they talking about? They said, on a fight day, you should really do nothing. Yeah. And then, even Tommy, like, if I have a big show on a Saturday night, over 1,000 people, don't do nothing. Relax, breathe, maybe write, read a book. Fuck the wife, whatever. But don't do much. Yeah. Don't do much. That's what she's death want, a Saturday. Not the-- I don't need you here. Unless you're going to suck my dick to relieve the tension. You know what I'm saying? You can tell me what. I need you here to clean up the excess fucking garbage in my body. Is that still a thing not to have sex and training camp? Yeah. Oh, so it's two weeks before five. That's always-- always run a two weeks before five. How quickly after the fight? Right away. Quickly. Yeah. Right after you eat that sweet potato. Right, of course. He goes from the sweet potato right to the mug. "What's happening, beautiful people?" Uncle Joey for DraftKings, listen, let me ask you something, "What do you get when you combine bingo style bonuses and slots?" I'll wait, "Kachingo!" DraftKinKasino is the exclusive home of Kachingo Slats. New casino players play five dollars and get one thousand flex spins, a thousand flex spins. 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Not every time, but with my day job, if I'm going out and like if it's during the week, I've been up since eight so I'm tired. It's like a little bit of energy. But I'm eating. I can't eat before a show now. When I first started joy, it's one of my favorite burns ever was my first show. I was so nervous and I drove like in two hours to get there. I hadn't eaten anything. I was 300 plus pounds. And all I could squeeze down with like half of like a size. He's just salad. I went to him. I was like, Hey, can you eat before a show? I couldn't eat. He's like, he's looking at you. Just you should do more shows then. But no, I can't. Some people can. Some people go, well, I have a stake between shows. I was going to ask because like I'll feel heavy. I got I just I'm not heavy. Even if it's like a healthy thing, I just don't brother. It's not the adrenaline. Let me tell you what it is. It's not the stake. It's us five Gordon dinner. I got to talk. Yeah. Yeah. I got to get the jitters out. Talk. No, no, no, no. I'm talking. It's an hour dinner. I got to go talk for now. And I'm sitting here dicking around with you guys trying to make you laugh. Now I go on stage and I eat a bag of dick because my focus shouldn't have been on that dinner. It should have been on the stage. That's why I really don't eat. Okay. Because I don't have time for this shit. If somebody starts saying something, I don't have time for it. So before that happens, I'd rather not eat. I'd rather not see anybody. After five o'clock, I really don't want to see anything. Headphones on music or now sometimes. Yeah. But just you just want to rest and think about what you're about to do and you know, visualize what's going to go down. So if I go to dinner, I take my off-the-price. That's what I'm trying to say. Yeah. Not that I can eat though. I'm a fat fuck and I spoke pot. I can eat every fucking day. But just there has to be some type of and that's my game plan before I'll come to the show. I don't like to drive and be late or be in a rush. I don't like any of that shit. I want to get there, sit, relax, maybe smoke a joint, keep it light. I don't want no fucking politic talking there without that shit. Just keep it light. When you go up there, you fucking get every emotion. If I go on stage and I'm already pissed that you motherfuckers are eating hummus, you know, it kind of so I try to keep it. And that's listen, that wasn't always. That was when I started making money. Because I got to think of them now. But I'm opening for you. I don't give a fuck about these people. I'm worried about the 400 I'm getting for four shows. You know, and that's not going to help me pay the rent. So I got to rob one of these persons that actually show itself. You know, it's all part of the, you want to give them the best possible show. You know, I'm already 50, 50. Let me give them the best possible show. So everything has to be tight like that. That's my mind. That's the way it worked for me. Yeah. Everybody else is different. Some people like people around them and stuff. I love my family. I just don't want even in a hotel room. Me tell me shit. I don't need to. Yeah. Yeah. What's the, what's the green room? Because like before I started to see, I thought the green room was going to be a party. I thought it was going to be great. The green room for a comedy show is us three on our phones like this the whole time. Like no one says that. It's very quiet. Like is your, is your like locker room like a bunch of music. Are you jumping around? So they last fight. They gave me my own locker room. So it's just me, my four corner man. That was it. We were just chilling and you met Kevin, my buddy, Kevin Coleman. He's a cop now. He's also a profiter. But he's one of my corner man. He's built me a friar. He's my best friend. And you know, he's in the locker room trying to get me amped up. And I don't know if you've ever seen any boxing movies or you're watching any Muhammad Ali clips. You know, we're in there. The opponent's out in the hallway, seeing the doctor and he's in there going, hey, cuff lightning, throw thunder and jail. He's yelling this like, you know, trying to get me hyped up but being like stupid funny. He's doing that the whole time. This kid that we're fighting just walk a past locker room. Look at these guys doing. Like that's how he's getting amped up. But like, I'm just, just funny shit. I am amped up, but I'm more potential energy and kinetic energy. Well, I'm sitting there looking at the phone or watching something stupid. I'm not sitting there doing either. I'm thinking and I'm getting hotter and hotter. Yeah, because I got to be a little bit pissed off before I go on stage, but I'm my own pissed off. I got to think about something I'm going to as a kid. Yeah. And it's like a slow, you put the fire on simmer. You know, I don't want to go all the way up. But I put it on simmer. And that's what I'm doing when Lee's on stage or something else on stage. I'm just getting ready. I'm listening to them. But at the same time, I'm just thinking about I want to go out there and fuck these motherfuckers up. Well, let me ask you a question. So now where I watch you growing up, where I watched you on, my name is Earl. I watched you on the longest yard. Now he's getting ready for that different than doing stand-up comedy. Because I'm sure they got food laid out. They got all this stuff laid out, right? Is it a different mindset for that? And is it a different always nervous? Let's get this out of the way. I'm a pussy. I want to feel nervous. Because when you feel nervous, you're going to feel something. Well, I stop feeling nervous. That's when I quit. Quit. That's a quit. Every time you Somebody I don't care what you're thinking. There's that little doubt. Yeah, there's always nerves. There's always nerves And you have to learn how to deal with your nerves Well, I have to shoot something. I mean, I just watch something the other day that was here. We were watching it And I'll give you an example. I did a box and we were with the nero Okay, I never actually seen it, but now I gotta go watch it Probably on right now. It's terrible. It's terrible, but I'll describe the scene to you When I got there. I'm like you I get off the plane. They drove me to my hotel I walked my hotel and I got right on the phone with them. I'm like, where is everything? They're like, well, you don't have wardrobe? I don't give a fuck That's the first thing I'm doing. I'm gonna smoke the joint, but I'll be down there And I come down. I'll let you fucking gear me up in shit And then while they're shooting you go walking around the set. You just watch You watch the tempo of the set You know what I'm saying like how the sky shooting is he making you do a lot of takes? Is he nice? You know, you're just watching I don't forget that while I was sitting there watching the nero came in Everybody was going nuts. I just sat there and say a word and he had to do a scene with hello cool Jay Now I'm watching these two for ten minutes rehearse. I'm watching them I'm watching them that doing the tap that you stand here. I stand there beautiful Action hello cool Jay fucked up. Let's do it again Hello cool Jay fucked up again Again again he could get the line. I then finally got it on they shot the scene. I'm like That's fucking weird that that happened. Okay, next day. I got a shoe scene with the nero This like an easy fucking scene. He says something to me and I say something back and we're wrapped. That's how quick it was No mess ups. No mess ups. Okay. Wow. No. That's crazy. No, he came. He hugged me He goes you ready for this we talk we rehearse for like five minutes. It was two fucking lines Yeah, who fucking lines guys and I'll never forget when they said action. He walked up to me. He started talking to me and I'm like Cut Like sure you're okay. I'm like, yeah, I'm okay because when he came up He wasn't the nero no more. He was every character. I had seen him play Casino the fucking guy when he was the murderer. Yeah, I'm looking all and I forgot my line Yeah, I don't know what line to tell. I don't know if I'm in goodfellas. You have no if I'm a mean street. I don't know what the fuck I'm it Kalojaro's dad. Yeah, I lost it like three times and I caught it Then I got it because just being around them Made me fucking after that. I was fine the next couple days me and him were rockin But that scene taught me why LL cool J was nervous That's why all cool J was fucking up. Yeah, you got to see it. You got to see it I got to see it like everything's cool until the light comes on like everybody what's my license? Everybody has a plan that I get punched in the face Yeah, I got punched in the fucking face and that's what happens and if you see it that way So to answer your question Acting is a little different because I'll go out there and warm up with the guy And then I'll get my body movement. I'm gonna lay it out. I mean, you just lay it out if it's a big time director Well, you're reading with a big time actor. You're gonna have a couple, you know hiccups Well human man that's supposed to be but you pick it right up You pick it right up and if I have to shoot a scene like that's why if I have to shoot a movie I won't make plans after the movie Why is that because I'll be thinking about the plans Yeah, instead of and then that last scene I can't say the words out because I'm looking at the clock I'm gonna rush thinking about what I gotta do. So I eliminated that There's all these things you learn to eliminate for you to feel comfortable what you're doing Yeah, you know, yeah, and I know the feeling of that So I know when I make plans for after the gym when I do very it's like, oh, I got to get out of here, right? But it's also like I got to get this shit thrown. I got a tree. Yeah, yeah So it's kind of weird the like I said to you. I love being nervous. I Love getting to a show and being confused I'll be fucked up and him and none of these guys could tell I'll just be sitting there. I'm going through my home fucking hell, you know, I bomb last time Wall to go on stage Maybe it's time you quit You know you got a pimple on your forehead your fat you get all this shit that people are saying to you nobody's saying it to you It's your own mind fuck with you You have to learn how to balance that out. Yeah, are you nervous for him? Like as a friend like cuz it were my boys fight my hearts like yeah, that's why I can't go see my friends I was saying like I can't are you nervous when he goes on stage a little bit a little bit I'll go see the beginning of his set and if he's got him I'll walk away I know he's got him not checking like eight minutes later on. Yeah, but am I nervous from? No, because I wanted to do well. He's going up before me Yeah, I don't want to put my malook nervousness on him. So what about you? That's the same or for him. No No, I could see it more like if I have like some some comics at my level and then they have a big show I'll be like excited for them but I'm a Joey and he was you know Doing the con like doing great shows Like to me at when I got cuz I wasn't doing stand-up when I first met him To me the idea that he got nervous was surprising to me because he was just to me like he'd go up there and explode I'm like I'm like adding that the idea that he got nervous like he did. He's not nervous. No, I Think it'd be more because there's no even if you bomb it sucks, but it's gonna be okay Maybe maybe for Netflix. I was like nervous or excited for you. I was nervous, but like big like big stuff like a special But no regular set. I'm excited to see him and I'm excited for him to do well, but no, I don't There's not that's why I think I When you say you're like The this is scary to you Even I don't know it just there's like it's not life or death. I'm not gonna I'm not I might not lose an eye like like the fighting thing to me that That is just something that I can't even wrap my head around. I'm getting you down to the gym I got to get you in there. I have to I don't want something. I need to convince you that it's okay I need to do something. I don't know if I want to get punched in the face, but oh, no, no that I just want to get you to hit the Band and just how does it help with your lungs? Oh, yeah, I'm having some lung issues and I don't I need like this week And to show me I need to figure out a way to get them stronger myself. Oh, yeah, so if boxing I also got some supplements You could try for your lungs very good stuff like Lean and stuff like that. Okay, really good core to set mushroom. Okay, really good stuff for your lungs It'll help flush out a lot of the stuff. Okay deal. I would I would love to try it. I Don't know it's just very different and it's weird to me because like I don't know I get I get it I don't really get nervous for shows anymore. I'm not but I haven't had like a special. I haven't had a TV taping Additions, I guess I get nervous for but most of the time I just get like extra excited. I'm just so I'm just so pumped to go on stage Well, the nervousness turns into energy. Yeah, okay, we break it down for you Oh, the two fighters on the main car John Leonardo. Oh, he comes out. He does this thing He's fighting Nick asked who he's from the Bronx. He comes out and does this thing Awesome. They put your hands together. All right guys. We're gonna have a clean fight. Keep it above the waist This three knock down rule blah blah blah you guys ready you ready ready. Yeah, now you go back to your ring Right there. My mind is when I'm a boxer. I start getting nervous Let's go back to that ring. Who's that go back to my corner and I gotta do all that shit I hate when the people put the camera on the box. I would lose my mind if I'm about to fight and get warmed up And all of a sudden this guy comes to the camera. I'm not allowed at that My walk to the center of the ring is gonna be nervous. Mm-hmm, but once either he throws or I throw. I'm in the game Mm-hmm. I'm in the game. I'm slow. I'm retarded so you might have to hit me three times I'm not to see a little blood to really get your heart pumping right and then you're in there, but that whole walk is the one that always interests me from Shake hands and come out boxing once you turn around There's no going back. They no going back. Yeah, and that's the moment of truth. So those five steps is nervous energy Just nervous energy you're watching But once you throw a punch and get like once I hit the microphone and I go what's happening you bad motherfuckers? Right that's it me saying bad motherfuckers took everything out of me now. I could just dump. I'm ready. I guess When I hear nervous, I think it's like a negative thing, but maybe it's not negative. No, okay, cuz it yeah I'm a nervous person normally and that's a negative thing. How many people to look up with the sky just told you This young man is a fuck me at 60 amateur fights 15 pro fights He goes up against guerrillas every fucking day What did you just tell you he wouldn't go on stage if you fucking pay them? Cuz that's the most fearful thing in the world. That's when shit falls apart for you What happens to him on stage is when I go to the doc and they show you a big needle right? I just fall apart inside. He's just fall apart, you know So that's the way you have to look at these things. It's it's it's energy nervous all turns into you being a fucking animal Okay, you're driving down the street some guy cuts you off. He gives you the fucking finger You're like I need this. Yeah, yeah You know, you don't say nothing, you know the deal. He gets out of the car now. It starts saying, you did this, you did that. Now you gotta get out of the car. You're fucking nervous, it's fucking, you're in the middle of the street. - Yeah. - But once this guy does something, you get into, you're not nervous anymore. It's like anything else. You know, it's like anything else in life. We're all nervous for anything. I gotta, I'm fucking, he's fighting to eat. It's not just how much you're fighting no more. - Right. - Right, I'm doing comedy of feeding my daughters on my wife, you know. So, this is it. This is how I feed my family. This, if you quit at any level, you weren't meant to do this anyway. And that's fine. You gave it a fucking trial. You couldn't deal with nerves. This people, I know that it's quick comedy 'cause they didn't wanna travel. They did not wanna go on the road. That that was an out for them. So, they rearranged that comedy career to do a day job and then do comedy at night in the local clubs. Whatever works for you, man. - People must quit boxing all the time. - Yo. - So, it's crazy you said that. So, my father was in camp with Kevin Rooney and Teddy Alice who trained Mike Tyson, all of them. My dad had an opportunity to stay up in the cat skills in New York with them. My dad didn't wanna leave stand out. So, he did it. So, he ended up retiring. My dad was six, three and one as a pro. He retired. And he just didn't wanna move out of-- - He just didn't wanna do what was best for him to move forward. 'Cause obviously training with the best trainers in the world at that time would have moved him up. My dad was in the gym spar with any Pazienza who was a five-time world champion. I'm sure you've seen the movie Bleed for this. He was the guy with the halo on his hand. Yeah, my dad was in the gym with him. My dad was spar with Buddy McGurt. Top level guy. - Buddy McGurt, police. - Yeah, my dad was one of my dad's main spar partners. Do you think he was, does he regret it? Or is he happy with, was he-- - I think he's living through me, right? It's like, don't make the same mistakes that I did. I don't, I do everything I have to do. The only thing is, we were just saying this 'cause I got injured right again like normal. He goes, you're the only kid who gets hurt constantly. So I don't get it. He goes, I never got hurt. - You're sparring every day. It makes sense that you get hurt right now. - I mean, I guess, you know what I mean? I mean, I'm running, I hurt my name. I'm sparring, I hurt my wrist. I'm lifting, I hurt my back. I'm 26 years old, I know I do a lot of stuff, but like, I'm always getting hurt, always. So, but other than that, I don't do the stuff that he did. Like, this guy just did crazy stuff, always. And that would go to the gym. So if this guy would be out drinking and smoking, hanging with his friends and then show up to the gym. - Oh, shit. - You know what I mean? Like, he's just, I don't do that stuff. I just go into the gym. - What's it? - Is it, how excited are you to quit your day job? And I'm not, I don't, I'm not trying to get you fired. I'm sure it's a great job. - Oh, I love my day job. Yeah? - I think even if I, even if I make it big, 'cause this is something that the guys ask me on the job is, I love my day job. I love it. I really do. I have a great job. I work for the township. I work for the sewer department. And I work with great dudes. Listen, when you work blue collar, you make more friends than anything, right? And like, these dudes, I'm fighting. They all buy tickets. They all come out to support. Like, it's like a family outside of, you know, my family. - And I'm, I'm sure they're great. And I'm trying, I have my working day job and they're very nice. But the idea, to me, I just daydream about the day that I can, I'll make all of my money from stand up. And I won't have to, you know, you won't have to wake up early to go work out and then go to the day job. You can just focus entirely on one thing. You think, you think, and I'm, I don't know, I don't know why, but I'm big on, if you make it big, I'm big on, like, when I make it big. So like, when you make it big, do you think you'll still do this job? - Yeah, I think so. I mean, there's dudes who made a big fault, big fights, right? You look at our Joe Smith Jr., right? You know Joe Smith Jr. is? - I love the name. - He fought Bernard Hopkins. He's from Long Island, New York. This dude was a, I'm not sure if he worked for a private company or if it was union, but he worked for the tree service. So dude, be cutting down trees. It's a hard job. I do some tree cutting down my job, you know, around the sewers to clear stuff up. It's a hard, it's a hard gig. So that dude would do that all day and then go to the gym and train. This dude ends up becoming a two-time world champion for Knights of Fight's Bernard Hopkins. Pretty sure he still works. It's like, gets up, goes to work, made some money fighting, but what are you gonna do all day? You know? I don't know, I think in my head, even just with boxing, like you'd have more time to like maybe do treatments. So you don't get injured or like you'd be able to travel around to different gyms or, I don't just, but just have put more of your mental focus on it. Yeah, and I, so before I worked this job, I did demo, but before that, I didn't work at all. So I did all that. But now I have a job where like I said, like I have enough time to make money working of a full pension, I got benefits. Which I need. Yeah, 26 years old. I got great insurance. I went to the doctor's office for an X-ray the other day and no copay, nothing. That's beautiful. 26 years old to be like, hey, no issues. That's awesome, man. It's a blessing. So you could do doing this the rest of your life and just boxing. Would you be a, would you be like, let's say you went and were able to fight for a world championship. Could you do that and do this day job? Absolutely. Okay. Absolutely, yeah. Not saying it's an easy job because it's not, you know? Some days are lighter than others. But to get up, train and then, you know, run our lunch and then train again. I'm in at seven and I'm out at three, three 30. Okay. It's not a, it's not a long period of time. It's a, it's a short eight hours, you know what I mean? Right. You get a long enough lunch. It's a good gig. You got, you know, people there that you want to chill with all day and it's, it's cool. Nice. What do you guys, you looked up to? Like the guys you look at now. Boxing, without that, you look up to like the beginning. I'm sure you like Muhammad Ali or somebody else. Who the guys you look up to? I looked up to our Toro Gadi. You know, we got to rest this soul, you know, like one of the Jersey legends, one of the best, right, our Toro Gadi. He had all those, those three crazy fights with Mickey Ward. He fought Floyd Mayweather. He fought like a lot of these guys. And even some of the fights he would get whipped up in. He showed heart. He would show up there to fight, you know? And if you watch me fight, I try to fight like him, fight like my dad. These dudes who was like, let's fight. I'm not here to run. I'm here to fight in the center of the ring, you know? I think he said tonight, he's one of my favorites. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's one of my favorites. I got to meet him and he was fucking great. On the best damn sports show. But it was right after he beat the fuck out of Felix Trinidad. Oh shit. Holy shit, man. He was, when I met him, he was about 40 something. He was dropping some fucking wild knowledge. Him and Andy Sonsilva both have the same technique. They want to get home and look exactly how they did when they left the house. So most of their work is on fucking range and evasion and fucking, you know, and I like that type of fighting. Nobody says you got to go up to him, beat the fuck out of somebody. You just got to go up there and slice him up a little bit. But these guys, that's their attitude. We want to look, when we come home to our family, we want to look the same way we left. Yeah, I agree. Of course, you know, that's the way it is. And I'm sure you see me spar. You see me fight a little bit. And I like that toe to toe action. I like, I like to put on a performance. I sell tickets, I, people are going to get what they paid for. Like guarantee it when you come see me. You give a fuck about the people. Yeah, don't get me wrong. Don't get me wrong. I have a family at home. But if you watch me fight, even on the inside, I have a technique where I don't get hit. And, you know, it's an old school technique. I watched a lot of guys like Roberto Duran. Like, this dude would sit right in front of you and not get hit. Duran? Yeah. Right? Holy else, he's our child. I'm only saying clips, but I'll leave like, in fights. He just puts his hand in and just does it. And like, the guy is like throwing 8,000 hundreds of them once. Those days are over, man. Like, that was just old school boxing, right? It's like, if a guy does this, I'm hitting him in his body. Oh, okay. Right? That's just the older, old school time, you know? Right. Guys had hunting and, you know, looking for stuff like that. Boxing has evolved so much with the gloves, with the defense, with the rules. Like, there's, there's all this stuff now. So, politics, of course. So, there's a lot of stuff. And I don't, I don't want to speak for everyone who's, who's listening and watching. But I, I didn't grow up with boxing. It just wasn't in my family. But then UFC took off and I, I got into that. But like, for anyone who's like watching and maybe like, has watched a lot of UFC, but hasn't really gone into boxing, like, what is it about, like, how would you sell boxing? Like, why, why would, how can you get like, new fans? Like, why would you, what would you tell people who might not watch boxing? Uh, well, the biggest thing I would say is right like the like, how does everyone get their name out today? It's social media. It's Instagram. You see all these dudes making crazy videos, right? They got that one kid, right? I'm sure you've seen him. He's like, you know, day one, I'm going to fight my followers, right? Like now he's doing it. He's like doing it with like Jake Paul, Logan Paul, these big name guys. I'm sure you guys seen it. It throws the gloves down on the ground and they, he's dressed up as like, you know, different characters, you know, it's like, how did that dude get so big? He just kept making videos. So that's important for you to? Yeah, I think that's, I think that's very important. I think it's very important for all of us in the, in this industry of entertainment. Like, that's what boxing is. It's not, it's a sport, but it's entertainment, you know, anything where you're selling tickets for someone to come watch it, you know. And like, are you, are you aiming for a specific promotion or, you know, right now I'm a free agent. My dad's my trainer and manager. And when something big comes through, you know, hopefully me and him will discuss it and we could get signed by somebody. That would be so, what about the Olympics? Yeah, that was, that was never a dream of mine. No, never a goal of mine. I think the goal is just to turn pro and to win a world title. That was my real goals. The, cause like, in the US, the, the amateurs do the Olympics, not the professionals. So that's like the last stage before you turn pro. Like the high level amateurs will do the Olympics and then turn pro after that. Oh, I thought, I thought Olympics, you could be pro now. You can't, it's still only I don't, I'm not sure if they changed it, but okay, I think this, this last Olympics, they just did was all amateurs. So, okay, yeah, so never, never a goal of mine. What was your, what is your primary goal today? My primary goal is to win a world title at 122 pounds. What's the difference between you and Ryan Garcia? What's the difference between us? He's huge. He's like, so what do he just fight? I think he fought his last fight, either 147 or 154 has last fight. Now he's getting ready to fight Chris Ubank or not Chris Ubank, Connor Bend. That's going to be a big fight. So I'm not sure what weight they're going to fight at, because they're big dudes. So I, that's like six weight classes. Have you got them? 150. They still gets blown over by the wind. Yeah, no, he's pretty big actually. Is he big? I've never seen a big guy. He used to go to comedy store. I didn't see him at night when I would be there. But I like his videos. I like how he put it in. And that's how he blew up, right? Social media. He was on there hitting the double end bag and doing all this fancy stuff. And he blew up on Instagram, blew up on TikTok. He did all these big things, you know. It's fucking wild what the internet does now. It was just a time. And if you want a fan, he just won. Yeah, keep winning. The word gets out. He's eight and all. Now people want to go because now at that point, people want to see you get knocked out when you're eight, no. And then you're nine and all, then you're 10 and all. And now they're like, all right, the sky's fucking serious, you know. Yeah. But now everything's social media. As long as you have the God of us to back all your fucking videos that you make, you know, well, good as it going in the ring of you. We're fucking beat up to this. I do love that. Whenever there's a few videos of like, you know, like they'll press tours and like one guy's talking shit and being a real dick. And like the other guy's just being real quiet. And they get this big showboat. And then they get into the ring. And then the guy who hasn't said shit beats the other guy, that's my favorite. And if you can't answer this, that's fine. But like we were talking earlier, I'm featuring most of the time. That means I'm like second out of three before the big guys. And I'll make a hot at a club. The club pays me $100 a show. What like for a boxer of your level, what do you what do you expect to make average at a boxer on my level? It honestly depends, right? So like there's a bunch of promotions. You could get a phone call, right? At my level, I had gotten a phone call to go to Japan two years ago to fight this guy. That Floyd Mayweather did an exhibition again. So this dude was like a multiple time, we're all the kickboxing champion, right? So they sent it to me, right? He's three and I'm boxing. They go, oh, you should have flying out to Japan for this fight. The guys three and oh. So I look him up. I go, yeah, but he's like 60 and oh kickboxing. They're like, oh, so what? What do you mean so what? Students technically like 63 and oh. Anyway, another guy that I know took the flight. It happened to be like a hundred thousand dollar flight. So at my level, you could get a local show where it's like, you know, you start at two grand all the way up to 15 grand, depending on how you do with tickets or you could get a call like that where it's some bigger money. So now let's say you go there and I beat that guy, my next fight could be a million dollars. You know, okay. Yeah. So, but even so like you take its heels, impact your, your pay, yeah, ticket, ticket sales, impact your pay. So depending on the, depending on the promotion you work with, you can make a deal where it's like, Hey, you're going to get a flat paycheck. And then if you sell this amount of tickets, I'll give you a percentage out of it, which is great. I love that. I got a great promoter I work with. I work with boxing insider. He pays me very well. He loves that I sell tickets. He loves my personality. He loves me and my dad. He's like, I want to work with you guys. I think I can help you. Great guy. There's not a lot of promoters that are going to do that for you. A lot of guys want to, you know, they want to hold the money. They don't want to give it to you. There are suddenly tickets to make money. They don't want to pay you that much. That's pretty ballsy to fuck with a professional boxer. And there's like, if someone's going to stiff me, what am I going to do about it? If someone's going to stiff, you could punch him in the face. Yeah. I mean, that's true. Didn't you get the reputation of punches from others in the face? Not anything good. There is guys, there's some fighters that promoters don't want to work with. They're crazy, but I don't want to deal with that shit. They're like, I'm going to have this guy on my card and it's going to be a problem. Not even if they're getting paid, it's still a problem. Some guys just have a problem with everything. Really? You know, that is. There's just problem childs that they're around, you know what I mean? It's crazy. Leave that. And then box growing up, I enjoy, I was a criminal, I enjoyed boxing. I enjoyed the error that I got into. And when I was, I don't know, 40 something, I was waterpound. I had to lose weight and I shot a boxing video for Showtime. Oh, yes. It's in stupid promotion. I played one of the trainers and fucking to do to play the main trainer was a real time training. We, and we did the video at what's his name spot? Oh, for two spot walk hard. For two and a half night. So it's pretty interesting. I'd never been in there on the way out to do. I told him his name was Macapoli, Rest and Peace. And he goes, I think you start coming to see me. I'm not going to kill you. I'll pay you. Just pay me 20 bucks a session. I don't know about that. He goes, just do it. Combine see me. If you don't have money, come by anyway. And what happened was that time, the guy who trains Ryan Garcia now is a strength and conditioning coach. Yeah. His name is Justin Fortune. It was Justin and Naka worked for Pacquiao. They got into an argument over money and they left and opened up their own gym and dog. I learned a lot of shit in there. I learned that boxing was a science. I saw a lot of guerrillas coming there and guys like you just put them away. I loved when guys are coming with tattoos and fucking bracelets and shackles. And all of a sudden they would bother Justin Jay because they're like actors. We had one primary actor from CSI. The old CSI. He was a white kid, fucking dick wouldn't talk to nobody. But Paramount was paying Justin 40 an hour to train him. Wow. So Justin would train. This went on for about two months. And every time I was leaving, I would hear him say Justin, come on, put me in that. I could fuck these guys up and be like, bro, you threw two punches on CSI, you know what I'm saying? Now you want to be a boxing guy? So yeah, I could do any coming every day, $800 gloves, the best of everything. And finally Justin put them in there one day, took the guy like 10 seconds to fucking guy picked up his boxing gloves, picked up his bag and never came back here. Walking out of the areas. Really think like your head. Yeah. You know what it is about being a fighter is a lot of people who haven't get hit. So this we're going back to some of this stuff. You said a lot of people who haven't gotten hit when you get hit, you get rattled. You get rattled when you're a fighter, that rattle feeling is not there because you do that shit every single day. That rattling feeling for you to rattle me, you got to hit me with a bat when I'm not looking because for you to really rock me, you really got to, you really got to rock me because every single day I'm getting hit, getting hit, getting hit. It's like, it's like nothing to me. Where's the worst place to get hit body head? Oh, I can't hit the body. Yeah, man, no, that's worse there. That's why they call me body shot, man. Oh, that's your name. That's my neck. That's my fight neck name, John body shot. He's a body shot type of motherfucker, like what the liver, like, or let's say, what's the world? Yeah. What is it feel? I've, dude, I, I've lived my whole life purposely to never know what that feels. Like what is that? I hope you never have your body. Yeah. But you shot it down, Lee, you can't. I think you can't see the best places, the floor. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's the best places to floor. Just stay there. Don't worry about enough. Yeah. We're just getting hit in the balls. Oh my God. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like he said, your whole system shuts down. Like you could get hit in the head. You see guys get up, right? You see, um, we're mean. Frankie, we're talking about on his podcast. We're talking about, uh, Deonte Wilder, Tyson Fury. Mm-hmm. When he got up, everybody was like, yo, yeah. What the fuck these do? You hit someone in the body, most of the time. They're not getting up. They have to think about it for two or three minutes. Yeah. And that's when you do the rest of your punch and while they're thinking, and I got six knockouts, five of over from the body shot. And is it because when I think knockout, I think that means I'm like passed out and the birds are going like knockout just means you're like, you know, you're, you ain't getting up. Yeah. You ain't getting up. And the birds are going around you. Yeah. They're going around you. That's fucking bum. Holy shit. It's not like in the movies where they whistle and shit like that. They're mocking you. Oh my God. It's just crazy how when I learned it was a science, it made my life that much better. And then to even get one deeper, we're all artists. You're a boxer, but you're an artist. Yep. Okay. And when you look at an art, you can see that they're all kind of the same. They're all starting the middle, whether you talk about your kids who stand up, there's something that correlates, something, I tell people, you could learn a thousand ways to draw a jab. Right? I could, you could teach me a couple of different ways to draw a jab. That's certain. There's not just one way. That's why it's an art. There's a couple different ways to me to get them there. It's how I set it up. What do I do with comedy? I got a great joke. How do I set it up? Right. Same thing, guys. It's the same fucking thing. When you're an artist, George is fucked up as he looks. He's an artist. Leave George alone in the room with the Yankee game on, get cigarettes, a soda, and watch him fucking cut those frames and watch them. They're artists. I don't know much about framing, but I'm sure at one point, they're saying something similar. I see that with boxing, with comedy, it's the same thing. We're covering up. We throw a joke, and then we cover up and say, then you throw two more jokes. It's the same thing. It's all the same. It's all an art. And once you digest that and make your life so much easier, listen, when people say to me, you're an artist, they say, you know what? You're a content. I hate being called an artist, but after like 20 years, that's what we are, because everybody has a different way of doing the same fucking thing. That's an art. There's a thousand ways to throw a living punch. I might set it up with a one, two, I might set up with a one uppercut, and then that left. So his hands are already up. It's pro. It's a fucking science. You can weigh a hundred pounds and beat the fuck out of 200 pound people with quickness to science. Yep. It's all about, you don't know where to land that punch. Is it, I don't know if it wants to say harder, but like when you're talking about like the heavy weights, like in theory, they're stronger than you. Oh, yeah. Is it harder? Like, are you more technical at your weight than the big guys? No, there's technical guys in every weight. That's, you know, he can move though, better to a heavy weight. Yeah. Yeah. But if you look at like a guy like Tyson Ferry, right, he can move. He can move. He can move really good. I think there's really good fighters, and there's really good athletes at every single weight class. All right. We're not talking about being out in the street. Right. Because if I got into a ring with a heavy weight, what a guy knows how to fight, done. Right. In the street and you get a guy who doesn't know how to fight, most likely you're going to get rid of them. Right. Because as a profiter, you're in condition. I'm in condition to exhaust you, right? When I mess around my buddies at work, I tell them, it'll only take me 30 seconds to exhaust you. Well, there are those faint you a couple of times go like this. Soon as you're exhausted, I'm going to step in, and I'm going to hurt you. That's going to be it. And you're a very nice person. I'm sure you're going to say no, very nice, but if I had the skills that you had, I'd be walking around looking super elite. I'd loved like, I got into an altercation around a plane a couple of weeks ago. If I, if I was a boxer, I would be, I would have been like, Oh, please, please hit me first. Like, does any part of you like, No, you never have a bad name. Like, Oh, I want to punch somebody. Yeah. He's a supervillain. There's no down my mind. I'm breaking you to the gym. I want to set you up on your next show. I want someone to take this swing and I want you to finish it. I want to see it. Dude, if I knock somebody out, that would be the happiness. Dude, there's people, I, and I'm not an angry person, but there's, I've had like, I don't know if you guys have ever had it. Like if, if I lose my job, if I lose everything, I have like a, let's the, a couple on list of like two, three people, let's go shoot them before thing. Like, oh, if there's a few people that if you taught me how to punch and I can like, if I felt confident, I would love that. We're going to set up this way for you. Let's do it. Yeah. Let's do it. A little celebrity fight. You could fight Ray Jay. Yeah. Did you match it? I saw the, I saw the little man on his head. He got knocked out. He's like, man, it was fixed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He got on the bike like, Oh, man, why'd you do me like that? Everyone's like, you know what I mean? We were like. And the guy tortured him. That MC tortured him. You're a lot. He said a bunch of stuff to him. Well, brother, I'm happy you took the time out. It's really great to talk to you. Like I said, I'm friends with mom. Dad, I love him more. Your mom always says a lot of me whenever I see him and July June 13th, where I have to drop a can. I got him. Sir. How do they get tickets? I sell tickets by hand. You can always DM me on Instagram. It's an artificial John Lee and Arda or you could go on to the website boxing inside his website and buy tickets right from there. But it's better if they buy it from you better than you buy it from me. There you go. Yeah. He takes a skim off top where you at this weekend. This weekend I'm with Jesse May Palusso, NIAC, a Liberty Live, one Friday, two Saturday. That's it. Just three shows. There's three shows. Go to leaseiet.com. For all my shows. I'm going a lot of places this summer. I got I got nothing August 7th and 8th, oceans and Atlantic City. That's where we're starting off. I'm healing. Well, so I have some better dates in June and July. I want to run a residency up in Brooklyn. Nice. Like every Wednesday for a month or something, you know. So that's what I'm looking to do, just something because I can't perform in New Jersey. So that's what I'm telling you, motherfuckers. Have a great week. Thank you. Don't forget to get John Lee and Arda tickets if you're in Jersey supporting another Jersey boy. So give him what you got. We only have each other. We'll blue collar motherfuckers in Jersey. So Lee, everything good. Everything is great. Everything good job. I love you, brother. Thank you very much. Thanks a lot. I love you guys. I'm saying bad channel. I'll see you next week and remember, let them all suck your dick.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The speaker reflects on a chaotic but meaningful weekend, including missing a flight due to financial constraints, taking a train, and later being stranded in Charlotte.
  2. He shares experiences of personal frustration, such as losing internet at the airport and being denied cash payment, highlighting real-life struggles with service and logistics.
  3. A significant story involves a pair of headphones being stolen from a hotel in Virginia, demonstrating how easily personal items can be compromised in public spaces.
  4. The guest, a professional boxer, shares his journey into boxing inspired by his father, describing the physical, mental, and emotional discipline required.
  5. He emphasizes the importance of community, respect, and equal treatment in boxing gyms, where all levels—beginners and pros—are welcomed.
  6. He details a structured daily routine
  7. Boxing is framed as both a physical and mental discipline that builds resilience, discipline, and self-confidence.
  8. He reflects on the emotional toll of losing fights and the importance of mental recovery, coaching, and community support.
  9. The experience of being in the ring teaches him about resilience, focus, and emotional control.
  10. A recurring theme is the contrast between physical exertion and mental readiness, emphasizing preparation and mindset over performance.

Summary:

The conversation blends personal anecdotes and professional insights, centered around a weekend of misadventures and reflections on discipline, resilience, and routine. The speaker recounts a series of chaotic events, from missing a flight due to cost concerns to being stranded in Charlotte and losing a pair of headphones at a Virginia hotel—highlighting the unpredictability of modern life. A key narrative centers on a boxing journey, inspired by his father, where he emphasizes the mental and physical rigor of training, the importance of community in gyms, and the discipline required to maintain consistency.

He shares a detailed daily routine involving early morning workouts, work, running, and boxing training, which he views as essential for both physical health and mental clarity. The experience of losing a fight is acknowledged as emotionally devastating, but recovery through coaching, rest, and reflection is crucial. The speaker contrasts the intensity of boxing with stand-up comedy, noting that both require focus, preparation, and emotional control.

He underscores the value of routine, self-awareness, and resilience—especially in the face of failure—as tools for long-term success. Ultimately, the narrative celebrates perseverance, the power of discipline, and the quiet strength found in consistent effort.

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The speaker missed their flight by two minutes, drove to Charlotte, and later returned, stopping in Baltimore to get crab. They were put on standby for a later flight and later realized the cost of an Uber was too high, so they chose to take the train instead.

Yes, in the early days, the speaker would miss flights on purpose because they felt overwhelmed or anxious about flying, describing it as a way to avoid the stress of the experience.

The speaker frequently had no internet access at the airport, even though their phone had Wi-Fi. They once tried to pay for internet with cash, only to find that the airport did not accept cash, making it difficult to stay connected.

The headphones were stolen and placed in a bag at the top of the hotel dumpster. The speaker and their wife tracked them and discovered the theft, noting that leaving items at hotels is risky.

The speaker trains daily, including swimming, strength training, yoga, and boxing. They maintain a strict routine, often starting at 4:30 a.m., and emphasize discipline and physical fitness to stay in shape.

The coach is vital, providing motivation, strategy, and real-time feedback during fights. The speaker credits their coach for helping them improve, especially during tough moments and between rounds.

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