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Three of them were comedies, including this one. Hereditary in the mix there at all or no? Hereditary. Got it! No, those are my top four, but I saw this in the theater with my future wife and just rock his laughter. People just love this movie. How long? How long had you guys been together when you saw this? The first summer we were together. Oh wow. Did you guys saw together? Yeah. One of them. Did you think of it like a test in any way? If she likes this, we're good. You know, I didn't think of that at the time, but I do feel like I was probably destined to be with somebody who would have laughed during a lot of this movie. Right? If you're sitting next to somebody who's like, oh, probably a bad sign. What about you, CR? Where'd you see it? Still one of the most memorable theater-going experiences in my life. I saw this one. I'd believe in Boston. I think almost as soon as it came out and it was like watching people go through a religious experience, falling into the aisles, people crying, sodas and popcorns flying in the air. And that kind of two-track mind you have watching it where you're laughing at it and you're also like, I can't believe they're pulling this off or I can't believe they're going for this. So yeah, just definitely burn into my memory. I vividly remember seeing it for the first time. I saw 10 friends. It was in the summer of '98. I was 15 turning 16. And it was like going to church for a bunch of teenage boys. It was like the apotheosis of what was happening in comedies at this point and rockest laughter. I think as I look at the movie now, which I still think is so funny, I actually don't think it's really lost an inch of how much it makes me laugh. But I don't think I really understood what the movie was trying to accomplish at all. Like I could only react to the set pieces. Like I wasn't thinking about the ideas. I wasn't even thinking about the weirdness of the characters. And so it's funny that it still has the power that it had when I was with 10 other dudes in a movie theater. It was a really weird rewatch because I was like, oh, I'm going in and it's Frankenbeans and it's hair gel. And I was like, is Matt Dylan in this movie one of the greatest movie performances in him in his tree coming out. I was like, this guy is throwing a perfect game in this movie. Yeah. I remember Goldman wrote about this in a couple different ways. But he was obsessed with this movie how like smartly constructed it was. He did the more adventurous screen trade and did a whole thing about the zipper scene and just how brilliant it is. I think that's what it's been on a million times. I always get sucked in. The structure of it, how smart it is, how well constructed it is from start to finish. How good the characters in like we have the Dion Waiters Award, it's probably 10 D on Waiters in this movie and they're all coming in hot. And the movie just doesn't let up and I don't think it peters off at all. The first hour is probably a little funnier, but I think it just rides and then you have like great performances, including Cameron Diaz, who was like, became an A+Lister after this movie. Yeah, the funniest thing about watching it this time was how gutsy it is for Stiller to basically do this movie and in the entire film is his him reacting and stuff. It's like it is the most straight man lead performance in a comedy that I can think of in a lot of ways because it's so thankless he's going to basically get his balls caught in his zipper. Yeah. He's going to flow his load and he's going to get like run through the ring or this entire movie. And everybody else is going to get out. Don't forget about rest stops. The bad passes are the night. He's just going to be. Hey, wait your turn. You're doing Jenkins in this movie, but it's just such a great lead performance because he's just like, I'm going to let everybody else cook while I move through this movie. But by the same token, you can feel him making a choice that's like, I found my movie star persona. Yeah. He's on locks, the similar kind of character he plays in like 10 consecutive studio comedies after this. So it's actually really smart on his part because before this, you know, he's in some interesting movies and he's still trying to figure out he's balancing a lot of these like independent dramas, the same years permanent midnight, same years less than zero. Don't forget your friends and neighbors, your friends and neighbors. Jason Patrick, tell them a long story about the guy in high school and he's already directed reality bites and he's had the TV show. But he, this isn't the guy from meet your meet the parents. You know, this isn't the guy from the night of the museum yet. So I was going to do this later, but we can do it now. He had not carried a movie yet. He was Ben Stowe show reality bites heavy weights, if Lucy fell flirting with disaster, directed the cable guy the year before he did episodes of friends and layer sanders. He was the second lead of zero effect in 1998 with Bill Paulman and Ryan O'Neill. I don't know if I shot owns it on 4k. Really funny movie. Really? Yeah. It's like a detective comedy that's played very straight. But I didn't think Ben Stowe could lead a movie. I didn't know what he was. And he goes from this 11 year run of, there's something about Mary and meet the parents. Zoolander, World Tana Bums, Alongcane Polly, Starskin Hutch, Anchorman, Dodgeball, Meet the Fockers, Heartbreak Kid, Tropic Thunder, all in a row. Yeah. And he becomes the biggest comedy star we have, which I think the odds in 1998 of like our next giant comedy star would be Ben Stowe would have been a hundred to one. No. I never would have guessed it. He was doing things outside of movie roles though. He was hosting the MTV movie awards and he was doing that, the famous, the Tom Cruise stunt double thing. He was doing. He did have cool comedy guy energy. Yeah. Yeah. He was making himself known. But I almost could have seen him having like a secondary like Albert Brooks type career where it's like kind of a fringe character who directs his own stuff. But it's like a very niche kind of thing. So for him to be this mainstream is pretty surprised. So that's why your friends and neighbors is so interesting because it almost seems like he's wondering if he should be a serious actor. The permanent midnight too. So very. Yeah. Both of those movies. Yeah. Very tough hangs. Yeah. Very serious like looking at like sexual perversion among couples. Yeah. Looking at addiction. Like he. You can feel him trying to figure out like what's the right path for me. Which ironically John Stewart was a little like that too. He was. And he was one of the runners up for this movie. But he was also like am I an actor? What am I? Still are I remember when he was on SNL for like the all-time cup of coffee. I don't even think it was half a season. But did Eddie Munster and he did a Tom Cruise and people knew he was still a remorse kid. I never saw the Ben Stowe show. I'm not going to pretend. I was like oh yeah. I didn't even really remember that happening. That was on Fox. Yeah. It was on Fox. It kind of came and went. And it was until reality bites which we talked about. There's some funny stuff on that show though. And it had you know cross-noden Kirk and Jean Garofloat had a bunch of people who went on to be like. Did I have like our crazy writing staff too, bro? I think so. Yeah. Funniest movies of the 1990s. I'm going to give my list from 7 to 1. You're just going to give this away right now. Yeah. You should put this on such a tag. This is going to be the new running joke. Just say it. I can't tell if you like it. You'll have to read it up projections. This Wednesday. And number one, coming Thursday. Actually I'll give you a top eight because I'm. Bump 30 work, 30 work, eight, we've done that in rewatch. We'll tell you. Groundhog day seven, happy Gilmore six, Wayne's World five, Austin Powers two, four. I think that was 1999. Dumber, Dumber, Tommy Boy, there's something about Mary. That's what I have. Sorry, Billy Madison was not on the list. Was not. That's my top shameful. Doesn't mean that they shouldn't have had 20 movies, but I think Mary was one of the fun. I think it was the funniest movie in the '90s, leading to me to my next list. Funniest movie by decade. Oh, how far back did you go? 70s. Okay. They didn't know comedy in the '60s. Funniest movie of the 1930s go. Is that bringing up baby in the '30s? Sure, yeah, '39. Got it, nailed it. (laughing) Got it! Is it '39? I don't even know. I think it was. What do you have for the '70s? The funniest movie in the '70s? The funniest movie. The funniest movie. The funniest movie. The funniest movie. The funniest movie. It's the funniest movie. Interesting. where I land. You should be doing a pod with Van and Joe and be like, just want you guys to know, I've decided. I talked about this with Chris and Sean. No, if you knew, but three weeks ago, 90s, Mary 2000s gets really hard with Anchorman super bad and the hangover and I don't any more time to decide on that. I think it's Anchorman to the hangover, which, you know, has many complexities in this day and age, did have a very similar feeling to this movie in theaters. Yes. In theaters, where it was like, this is a rock concert. Yeah, like when he, like, he gets teased in the hangover or just in the face. Not at the table Carlos is still the funniest thing that's ever happened. And then 2010s, I actually think it's Brad's Mids. It's step brothers 20 tons? No, that's 2000. Oh, that's so step brothers could be in the 2002. What's your 2000s movie, Craig? My god, I have to pick one. Yeah. Now quickly, Bill gets to wait seven weeks. You go now. Probably, I mean, Anchorman, I think has like the most quotes that I've taken with me throughout my life and then maybe super bad and forgetting Sarah Marshall. Oh, yeah. It's impossible. Stepbrothers and hangover is so good. You almost need more time with it. I do think it's Brad's Mids for the tens. Anytime that would be good. Brad's Mids is so fucking funny. It's like, it's like clearly the champ of that year. Anyway, I don't know if you had any quibbles. Was it prepared for this query? Do we have a 20 20s? Do we make comedies anymore? Do we have comedies anymore? What happened to comedies? Yeah, we just, well, Craig and I were just talking about one that's coming out in June, called the invite, which is pretty funny. Yeah. Yeah. Seth Rogan will live you wild. Edward Norton and Bill P. Cruz. God, what is the funniest movie of the 2020? How sad is that? We can't even think up top of our heads. There was just a big, big-ish comedy, small-ish comedy this year. What was the 2026 comedy, the one comedy? Well, then the naked gun remake came out. That was in 2025. Yeah. But you said you were not. 2026 comedy this year that did well? Yeah. Well, the drama's pretty funny. Yeah. Is it? I haven't seen that. I don't know. I don't get not different kind of festivals. Yeah. It's a movie that made $100 million. It's been out for like weeks. You could have just got the drama. Yeah. It's the fucking basketball playoffs. I'm not going to move. He was up against the basketball playoffs. It's Pattinson and Zendaya. You're the consumer. You're the guy who's got four screens. I'll say it when it's on a streamer. Did you see Netflix's new film "Poopside Poop My Pants" and also killed my daughter's boyfriend? Does that exist? Have you, if you go on public, that's a great title. They should do that. But it's like, if you talk publicly about how you watch things called like, I'm my own mother on Netflix and you're like, you're sending texts? I've never seen that one. As if you're like, you guys up on this yet? Like, me and Sean are sitting around. I like to let you guys know what the comment is. Nobody dumps my daughter is something you guys need to know about. Yeah. It's always like, husband, father, killer. I just stabbed a drifter with a tire iron and also I found my mom. 2032. Nobody dumps my daughter rewatchable. Nobody dumps my daughter is the best title of all time. Just wait until we're new to our rewatchables next year. This movie laid the ground for the 2000s, our rated comedy boom. Yeah. Really starting with the American Pie and Road Trip, but then old school really officially kicks it off. But I think this pulled the seal off. Comities cannot be our rated because they won't make as much money. This movie made a shit load of money. See, I thought of another movie that I chose for my double feature, but I feel like is in concert with this, which was American pie. I felt like American pie came one year later and it was like those two summers, but did American pie. Part of the reason I pushed the envelope was because this movie pushed the envelope and they were like, no, maybe he can fuck a pie. Yeah, totally. I think, I think it did help. Yeah, I think that's right. The stories about the test screenings for this movie and how the fairly brothers were like completely open to the idea of like, maybe this will be too far and maybe this will work and then them showing it in peer churn and just being like, yeah, don't don't change a thing. I was disgusted, but don't change a thing. Right. Well, they filmed the two different versions of the hair gel. You know, that was the deal they made with Cameron Diaz. It will have this too. And if it doesn't work or however, they didn't, not knowing if people would be like, that's disgusting. I'm leaving. And it was the opposite. It was and if you watch that scene when it cuts to her with the hair, like not a lot's happening in the dialogue because they know how fun it is and everybody's going to be laughing. So that kind of does you know, I have no idea what said. Yeah. Cameron Diaz, who did the mask in 1994 out of modeling, it was like the first thing she ever did. 1996, she's the one, which I consider the dream team too. A lot of people think it's the Olympic team that year we had. No, Shacken. No, it's actually it burns. It's an clone vaccine bonds, Aniston, Cameron Diaz and Leslie Mann and Tom Petty on the soundtrack. Don't forget it. Don't forget and John Monney, a man, a man to pee, a man to pee, a man to pee. Yeah. Who else? That's my that's my 1996 dream team. My best friend's wedding. Good film. She's fantastic in that too. Really good. Very fun. And then Mary and I, and she becomes a a list, our ends up in being John Malcovige and he given Sunday. Charlie's Angels, Shrek, Vanilla Sky. Tough casting and gangs in New York. Maybe that's what we do. Sure. And it just keeps going from there. And she also had high profile relationship, Sean with Matt Dylan, Jared Lato, Justin Timberlake and A. Rod. You know what I've learned? She doesn't have a type. She married Benji Madden. She's just love his love for her. Doesn't matter who it is. She could have fallen for Craig. It could have been anybody. Matt Dylan, Jared Lato, Justin Timberlake and A. Rod. That would be weird if she fell in love with 13-year-old Craig in 1999. I was five. Okay. It would have been really weird. Is she married now? Benji Madden. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, you're not checked that by myself. She's back, by the way. She's back. She was in the joining home movie, right? And one last year, Jamie Foxx. She was back in action last year. And this year was outcome. Where do you stand on Mary as the perfect girl? Because this movie does a lot of tricks. I think it's the most interesting conversation that's probably come out of the couple of decades of discourse about this movie is how knowing it is about the different ways you can read it. So you can read Mary as, I think there's a Dave Kuerline, the critic Dave Kuer, who said that she was like a fantasy of flawlessness and that everything Mary does is like the exact dream scenario for a guy. Dave Kuerline sounds like a fun hang. Very good critic. But then you could also flip it and say that the funniest thing about this movie is how it's the guys who are doing all the acrobatics to like bend their personas to what they think Mary wants from them. I don't know. I mean, that's the ingenious idea of the movie, right? Is that she is supposed to represent this like ideal of male desire, right? Where it's like, she's into sports. She just wants to eat hot dogs. She golfs on in her free time. You know, I really want to dive into this. Love's football. Yeah. 85. She's in on the Niners. Where's the, like she smells the dino want to come upstairs and watch sports. Yeah. She has taken one of our Montana's draft status. She has a fucking great golf swing. Yeah. That's really her. Apparently, they had a golf stand by standing person. She overrotates. But yeah. And you think so? Yeah. I'll see our golf tips. Well, I've been in the like the YouTube minds with golf talk. I mean, I've been studying under the tutelage of a man named Mr. Tropicano. Thank you. He was talking a lot about. When you say studying, you mean just watching his videos. Yeah, like you don't know them. No, I don't go to Kovina to like get his tips. Um, great golf swing. Love's meat on a stick. Yeah. Sure. Um, really underrated cigarette smoker on this. Yeah. I don't know if she deniroed it. Do you see that? Which is an odd for an orthopedic surgeon, even at night. Yeah. Just she casually is like checking out people on the Copacabana what I was in. I think so. Copacabana. Yeah. Um, great person works with special needs, adults, gives apples to homeless people. I think that just as a guy with a boat. Is he homeless? He's not boldness. Yeah. Was he in on a boat? I thought he was like the doc master. - He's in the IMDB as homeless man. - Oh, okay. - So I don't know with it, maybe it was a miscalculation. But yeah, she's basically great hang, laughing at everything. - But the idea that all these guys have to lie about who they are and what they want to get her even though she is the on paper, if only my wife could be like this, that's like the whole genius idea of the movie. - These guys are all losers who don't really deserve her and they have to come up with these elaborate stupid ways to get her that's I think the joke of the movie. - Yes, and but it's like, I think that there's like, you could probably do the opposite read, which is like, this isn't a real person, so then there's the character work, but I tend to believe the opposite. - You know what, in the summer of 1998, I was just thinking about the laughter. - Yeah, I think we all were, I think we all were. - I definitely did not realize that this was a high level stalker comedy in 1998. And that is what the movie really is. I'm not a bunch of guys that are stalking this woman. - That's the funny, other funny thing is that you could say that this is like an update of a Preston Sturgis plot, like of like a real screwball comedy, like you're never gonna believe what happens next kind of story. But I do think that all the guys are like, basically should be in jail by the end of the movie, including Ted. - I wrote down this as one Harry Mattelli for Weirdos. I mean, that's really what the premise and plot of the movie is. - Matt Dillon, in an all-time elite scumbag in this movie, "Fenomenal" and was dating Cameron Diaz in real life. Career resurgence of in and out wild things and there's something about Mary, we just did wild things. He, as a kid actor, he was in three S.E. Hinton movies. He was in my bodyguard, which was the first time I saw him. And women just love Matt Dillon. - Drugs to cowboy, right? - On the edge. - He was kind of all over the place with his IMDB with a lot of twists and turns. He never really did a comedy like this before. He was the original choice for Butch and Pulp Fiction, which we talked about when we did the Pulp Fiction that I think would have been a huge, an important thing for him. - Yeah, I think he would have been good in that part too. - I also, I don't know why he wasn't an entourage as their older brother, why he couldn't have come in and done a three episode arc. - Yo, bro, I can't believe you here. - Could they give it a few reasons? - Would you be playing Matt Dillon? Or would he be playing drama? - I think he's playing drama's older brother. They are like their half brother. - Steve drama? - Or like a Steve drama? - Yeah, Steve Dillon. Steve Dillon. We're career in the sense that it feels like there should have been a TV pivot to some sort of prestige show in like 2014 that never really happened. And I don't really know what he's been doing the last 15 years. But everybody likes Matt Dillon. He never did like his version of like that Kevin Bacon show on Showtime or. - Eight nine years ago, he did a Lars von Trier movie called The House of Jack Hill, which is a, no, it was a movie. It's like a movie about a serial killer. It's a crazy movie. - Oh, I thought it was a, I never saw it. - No, no. - He did an Apple show with Patricia Arquette. That was kind of like a crime show, like a noir, desert show. - Was it a show where somebody dies in the beginning and then you go back, actually? - I think it was actually, it's called High Desert. - Did they solve it? - Well, I think they only did a season of it. I remember when I watched it. - We'll never know. - Craig, have you seen that Apple show when somebody dies in the beginning? - I think so, yeah, I saw that one. - We don't know who did it, but then each episode ends and then could have been that person. - And then there's another season. It's a whole new cast, but there's also a murder of the beginning of that season. - It's spiritually under the same umbrella in the first season. - It's like the same theme song, but a little different every time. - And every actor peaked like six years ago, but their agent definitely told them it was gonna be a great idea. - Yeah, I like that show. - Matt Dillon feels like he's primed for a white lotus appearance. - That's the thing. I feel like if Matt Dillon gets dropped into any sort of cool, if he had been in beef, anything, people, the reaction, man, hey, Matt Dillon, I love Matt Dillon. But he's always kind of existed in that world where people like him, I don't know, I feel like he's two movies short, John. - I know what you mean, you know? - It's a little like Michael Bridges on the next round. - All right, all right, just settle down, please. It's only six years later that he's in crash, which is a joke now, but at the time, one best picture. And he's the hands-y police officer. - And he's good in crash, whether you like the movie or not, he's good. - Not a great character, but he gives a good performance. But then after that, here are the movies he makes, after crash, lover boy, you see that? - Fat The Curse, the alley one. - No, factotum, which is a Bukowski adaptation, Herbie fully loaded, Ume and Dupri. - Oh, yeah. - Nothing. - Ume and Dupri. - Nothing but the truth, the Cape Beckinsale political drama. Old dogs with Robin Williams and John Travolta. - I don't know, old dogs. - Is he at the motorcycle movie? - No, no, no, that's wild hogs. - Oh, come on. - Old dogs is about-- - It's wild hogs. - Yeah, wild hogs and old dogs is a killer double though. Takers, you've seen takers? - Yeah, the wheels are still in the walker. - Couldn't he have been prisoners instead of-- - I mean, this is a rough 10 years. - Is he in like 1-8-7, or what is the Thriller he's in? It's like Anthony Mackey, one that's pretty good where he plays like-- - Put the wheels up, come off. - Yeah, and he plays like an armored truck security guard. - Yeah, that's called armored. - Yeah. - He plays Mike Cochran, opposite Lawrence Fishburn, John Renault, Milovin to Miglia, Skeet Ulrich, and Columbus Short. - Oh, okay. - This is like when I texted you guys a couple days ago with Mark Walberg's IMDB in the 2020s, and it's like, when did Mark Walberg just give up? It's seven straight years of just ugh. - Yeah, it's just, oh, and I thought I didn't realize it was over, but apparently it was. Sometimes I guess that happened. - I think it's, I think for, do you wanna have the Mark Walberg conversation or the Matt Dillon conversation? - Oh, either. - Okay, so the Mark Walberg thing, I think he used to work routinely with really interesting and challenging directors and now no longer does for the most part. - You know, Matt Dillon was an asteroid city, the Wes Anderson movie. - You didn't see that. - There's more there recently, right? - Like he has a mechanic. - He's a mechanic. - He's phenomenal in this part. It's really, really funny. I can't even think of anybody else who would have been good in this in the same way. - So he's like always likable and interesting, and he's, I think he's a good leading man in all those teen movies in the '80s. But do you think that because he was dating Cameron Diaz, he felt like more free. He's never been this funny. - Yeah. - Like what explains, you know, doos-doos in the half? Like his facility with the jokes is so good. - They're changing their image. (laughing) - This is gonna work for Rice Aroni. - I think it's always fun when a actor is known for dramatic parts, does a comedy and is in the comedy, treating the part as seriously as he would any drama. But he, Matt Dillon, knows how fucking funny this is. But he's like Pat Healey, private eye, who falls in love with his own subjects. I'm like 110% committed to it. - And even when he's mugging, it's funny. - But he's willing us to do it to put on the veneers and to wear the stupid shirts is just unreal. - Or when Tucker is telling Mary all the fake stuff about him, like he killed the guy and he's just in the car, like, (laughing) like just, he just knows the jigg is up. - Yeah. He's really great. Do you feel like this movie, like when you were like, let's do something about Mary, I was like, absolutely. Like this is such a singular experience watching this thing. Do you feel like it's second life has been more muted than you would have thought? And when you first saw it? - I had a follow up related question to this. If you had to guess what number in terms of popularity is this movie for Cameron Diaz on Letterbox? - Interesting. - 'Cause you could make the case this is her biggest and most important movie. - I would have said the holidays first. - Holiday is ahead of it. - No, COVID is ahead of it, probably. - Charlie Zangel's is probably ahead of it 'cause people are dopes that move is awful. What how far is it? How far down is it? - 14. - That's wild. - How is it measured? People started it. - Popularity on this app. - It's just how many people have starred the movie? - Yeah, I think who like it, the ratings, all those things are taken into consideration, but it is, you know, you've got some weird outliers or you've got like fear and loathing in Las Vegas. She's like one scene in that movie. But like Gangs of New York is ahead of it, the mask is ahead of it, all the Shrek movies are ahead of it, Vanilla Sky is ahead of it. My best friend's wedding is ahead of it. In 1998, you know, we were like, not only is she the new Julia Roberts, she's like the new Audrey Hepburn. Like she's like, this is a person who's on the Collision Course, this is a mega-started. - And from 1998, this movie is standing on its own two feet against Titanic Private Ryan and Armageddon. Titanic Private Ryan and Armageddon have gone on to all be rewatchables, I believe, all be rewatched by people like routinely all the time. And this I feel like, when you mentioned it to me, I was like, oh yeah. Like, but I haven't watched this movie in forever for so long. - I think part of the problem with it, other than there's probably some stuff that people feel like has an age well. It's like big set pieces that people feel like they don't need to see it 'cause they know what the set pieces are. But it's like, oh yeah, there's gonna be the two scenes with the dog and there's gonna be the one, the hair gel scene and there's gonna, you know, the zipper scene and the day I've seen that. But I don't think it gets enough credit for how smart the script is and how good the actors are in it. It also feels like it belongs to a different generation. - Yeah. - 'Cause I was looking at the 98 movies that were comedies. There's something about Mary Big Lebowski, Waterboy, Rush Hour, Wedding Singer, Night at the Roxbury, Half-Bake, Dirty Work, and Base Kip All. Just feels very '90s, you know. And then. Yeah, but Lebowski has endured, you know, like sometimes movies have been heard. Yeah, I don't know why this one didn't endure. Well, look at the comments. It became. It was a cult movie that, you know, I think, grew some legs over the years past and has a bunch of fun people on it. It does. I had the same thought, though, while watching it. Whereas, like, it has kind of turned into a little bit of an artifact, which is an interesting. For me, it's probably one of the first examples of a movie that when it happened, I was very aware of it. I was consuming a lot of media around it, a lot of reviews of it, magazine stories about it. And I felt like, well, this is just an absolute neutron bomb for a teenage boy. Like, this is a huge thing. And now. And I think some of it is what you're describing, but the thing about the stuff that is insensitive or has an age of all or whatever is, the only people who are doing that stuff are the people who are meant to believe are buffoons in the movie. Like, the movie is relatively sensitive to some of the ideas that are. It's portraying for the people who are impacted by it and understanding it in that world, the family, for example. It's all the guys who are made to be the butt of the joke throughout the movie who are the ones who are insensitive. So, like, that can be the only reason why it's come down a little bit. I was also wondering, like, you know, it's such a sincere movie in so many ways, like, the soundtrack, the colors of the movie, it feels very pop, it feels very, kind of weirdly optimistic when you're watching it. You kind of have a mild grin on even when it isn't one of the big set pieces. And for better, for worse, so much comedy has gravitated towards, especially on screen comedy, not only is it on TV, but it's like, Nathan Fielder and Tim Robinson and this kind of, like, if you're going to do something that's got an incredibly extreme sight gag, it has to be, like, really weird, you know, like, there can't just be, like, this is really funny that this guy thought, like, masturbating before a date was a good idea, but it would be, like, flogging the dolphin, then he gets caught by a, like, a local newspaper if it was Tim Robinson. Right, right. Yeah. Just even Tucker, like, wobbling back and forth on, you know, stuff is just, like, that's like three stages. You know, it's just pure sight gag comedy. Fairly brothers, the dumb and dumb are a kingpin and they're something about Mary in a row, basically. This is the, they had to save themselves after kingpin for, yeah, kingpin bombs, which I forgot. It's just an all-time classic, I popped it in immediately after watching there's something about Mary. I love that movie so much. That was Ed Dector and John Strauss, friends of the Fairly's, wrote the script, Fairly's bought it, ran with it, and they wanted to do something more for adults, animal house town. They knew this was their last chance, basically. This doesn't work. It's not going to happen. We'll take a break and then we'll talk about a couple other things, including the Oscars for that year. This episode is brought to you by McDonald's. Right now, McDonald's, you can get great deals all day with McVallion. That's right. Jumpstart your day with the under $3 menu, featuring a sausage McMuffin for just $1.50, or grab the perfect lunch with the McDouble for just $2.50. Honestly, nothing pairs with a movie marathon, like a McDouble in hand. I kind of love the McDouble's. Get even more value with McVallion only at McDonald's, but uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, limited time only, prices and participation may vary. Prices may be higher for delivery. So Goldman was adamant that this movie should have been nominated for best picture in that camera Diaz should have been nominated for best actress. I'll give you the best picture that year. Shakespeare in love, Elizabeth, life is beautiful, saving Private Ryan in the thin red line. Who you bump in, Sean? Easy life is beautiful. Get it out. Yeah. People at the time, um, if anyone also got nominated for directed, our director, he won for best actor, um, best actress in a leading role, Quintet Poucher wins for Shakespeare in love. Cape Lanchette, Elizabeth, Fernanda Montanegro for central station. Way to go. What are your thoughts on that one? So Brazilian cinema classic, in fact, her daughter Fernanda Torres was nominated two years ago for best actress, street one true thing, kind of like when Kobe would make the, I'll, I'll defense near the end of his career. I gotta be automatic. Nomination. This is the first time hearing of one true thing. Yeah. I don't even remember what that is. Yeah. Well, you haven't listened to our metal street policy and then. I'm sorry. Oh, sorry. Just out of them. Sorry. It's basketball plan. Yeah. What is one true thing? You're grinding tape. He missed the drama. I missed the metal street. Um, that's the one with William hurt, right? Or gets cancer and Renee Zellweger has to come home to help take care of them. Renee Zellweger, I think. Oh, my magazine writer. I know. Very sincere drama. Yeah. Please get somebody for that. Emily Watson and Hillary and Jackie. But as we've discussed many times, I'm the rewatchable's comedy performances and comedies in general. Do not get treated with any sort of reverence from the Academy. I think it's a little harder to get Dylan into supporting actor because it's Cobra and DuVal for a civil action. Ed Harris Truman showed Jeffrey Rush Shakespeare in love and he is pretty amazing in that. And Billy Bob Thornton for a simple plan. So it's hard to know who you would kick out, but that's who I would. Of the actors that I feel most passionate about would be Dylan for supporting actor. That's how I would have had a simple plan and Truman show in my best picture race that you're too. Well, if they had the nine films, I wonder if those two get added with their something about Mary. So, I mean, nothing happens. They're no good nominated for screenplay. They're 23 million dollar budget. It made 370. Crazy. That's the biggest movie in 98, Roger Ebert, three stars. What's a blessed relief is laughter. It flies in the face of manners, values, political correctness, and decorum. It exposes us for what we are, the only animal with a sense of humor. Right. For sure. I don't know. I mean, I'm cooking. I could add it a half star. William Goldman wrote, "My choice for best picture was there something about Mary? I would have given it best actress and best screenplay as well. The Academy has always ignored to the hardest genres to create comedies and adventure flicks." He just loved this movie. Anyway. Categories. Most rewatchable scene, piggyback ride into, he's only 230, huh? He's just like his back's destroyed by Warren. Just the noise of his back cracking when Warren jumps on it as well. Well, I don't know when we want to talk about Warren, but W. Earl Brown. I think Warren's incredible in this movie. I think it depends on what maybe some of your background is with the special needs community. We've had my wife has that in her family, her uncle David. My dad worked with special needs people for 15, 20 years. I love the way it approaches the whole concept in this. You're always on Warren's side. I feel like they're not making fun of me anyway. He's just a comedy machine. But then as the years pass, the Ferrelez have even talked about. I think it's just the issue of casting something inside of that. Ferrelez, basically, in the 2010s, they're like, "Look, we tried a million people. This was the best performance. It was a key part by the 2020s." They're like, "Yeah, we blew this." I get it. It's a complicated thing because that was not how people were thinking about it at the time that that's who should be cast in these parts. That's changed pretty dramatically in Hollywood. It's really hard to come down on it. I guess the only thing I like about the movie is is who's not making fun of Warren. You could misconstruet, though, if you were a teenager. I will say that. It was pretty easy for people that I knew to misunderstand what the movie was trying to do. I know people who also have special needs family members would have you who were upset by that. Interesting. It depends on your personal experience and your taste level. I think also, it's a very different experience watching this movie in a theater and 350 people are clearly laughing at Warren and you're like, "That's fucked up," versus watching it at home and being like, "I see what they're doing here and how they're celebrating this guy. They're not making fun of them." The Ferrelez, who have done this in a lot of their movies, about all types of people on him and all different types of handicapped people. He's actually the key to the movie because. He's the barometer of which guy. Him trusting Ted is the most important thing that happens in the movie. Who's good for Mary? Yeah. And they built it up. Anyway. The prom invites really adorable, too, not for a scene. All right. Ted shows up to take Mary to the prom. This is just a unbelievable seven minutes, five minutes, whatever it is. This is my most fun part about rewatching it as I forgot in Keith David and Markey Post. I'm crushing it. Yeah. Keith David. The wedding photo? Lawless. Lawless in the scene. It immediately got like my energy up, just watching him fucking with Ben Stiller. The wedding photo of them from the seventies is funny, which was clearly taking like one minute before they started training. Yeah. When Mary comes out of the stairs and Keith David goes, "Ah, shit, look at that." And then Warren attacking Ted is so fucking funny. Yeah. Him going to the bathroom, though. She's a dental hygienist. She'll know exactly what to do. And her answer is to get back team. And then when she sprays the back team in this one, I don't know what the technical name is when you're doing comedy, to just like keep adding layers and layers on top of the same punchline where like, and then the fireman and then the cop and it becomes like naked gun for a second. Yeah. Like the cops climbing in through the window and the fire department shows up. It's so good. And Warren's throwing a hundred and ten. 'cause he hears the Franks and Beans. He starts yelling Franks and Beans. Though he was masturbating as hilarious. Lenny Clark pops in and I don't know where. This is just an A plus comedy. - Sure. - I just have no notes. Every part is great. And even when you see the zipper for a split second, they don't stand it too long. It's like, "Oh, ow." - Also just a decision to have every actor just be like playing their teenage self, you know what I mean? Like not having kids play the parts anyway and having stiller as a teenager makes his character so funny immediately. - Yeah. I think he's given, especially wanting to like get in there and take a good look at it. - I think his butt's as hard as cracks me up. - It's just a perfect comedy scene. And then it goes right into the therapy appointment with our guy Richard Jenkins. - This is like a dark horse for me, but Jenkins is unbelievable. And he's like, "The food is now ripping back." - He doesn't have anywhere to wipe his hands. But serious or homosexualized. - Highway resters are the bathhouses of the 90s. - Bathhouses of 90s, one of the funniest ideas of any comedy. - For many, many, many, many gay men. - Is the insinuation when he's like, "We'll talk about this more next week." Isn't it that he wants to talk about? - He goes, "Yeah." - We'll delve into that. (laughing) - This is his only scene, right? - Yeah. - It's like uncredited. I think he like lived in the area and they were just like, "Do you wanna do a day?" - There's a funny cutaway to him in the montage at the end too, where he's like rubbing stillers back from behind that is also very funny to this joke. - Jenkins, like, underrated comedy actor. - Yeah. - He's speaking to stepbrothers, right? - The therapy appointment with Jenkins, and then the next one is Healy Lies to Ted about Mary after he comes back from Miami. She's about a douche, douche and a half. Ted, don't you want the name of the housing project? - Just that two minutes is really great. - My favorite part of it, I'd say about a douche, douche and a half is when he's like, "Not bad!" (laughing) - Healy ropes Mary in at the golf course. Every part of this is, my real past is my hobby. He says the work with retards and she goes, "Isn't that a little politically incorrect?" - Well, to hell with the hat, no one's gonna tell me who I can and can't work with, right? - We got this one kid, Mongo. That scene is out of control. - I love those goofy bastards. - A leash. - Plenty of room to dig. - Yeah, the kid is really blossomed. I don't know how they did that scene. That scene's unbelievable. The crazy dog scene when Puffer passes out. - Passes out. He dies. (laughing) - That's so perfect to live. - That's also got Healy telling them that Paul, the villagers, they're called me keen donty, which means noble man who is loved by many animals who in kind, he loves it too. (laughing) (laughing) - The hitchhacker scene where to stand on that one's here. Seven minute abs. - 11 out of 10. - People don't know about Harlem Williams. - Yeah, do you know about Harlem Williams, Craig? - Yes, because the movie where he's the astronaut was one of my favorite movies as a kid. I'm blank, what's the name of that movie? - Space man. - Is it Space Man? - I love that movie. - It was really funny. - Yes. - Seven in my office, 'cause you're fucking fire. - Seven's the key number here. Think about it, seven 11, seven doors. Seven man, that's the number, seven chipmunks, twirling on a branch, eating lots of sunflowers on my uncle's ranch. You know that old children's tail from the sea? - Rocket man, by the way. - It's like you're dreaming about Gorgonzola cheese. Let's breed time, baby. - He comes in hot. - Damn waiters is gonna be a possible. - Yeah. - Yeah, the Joe Jackson scene with the flag football spikes the ball, exceptional bias. - He cheats and checkers, the video goes right, gets his teeth capped 'cause he overheard her talking about big white teeth. Chris Elliott goes to see Ted is the next one. You choke the chicken before any big date, don't ya? Tell me you spanked the monkey before any big date. You got baby batter on the brain. You're going out there with a looted gun. I do love the most honest moments in a man's life as the few minutes after he's blown its load. It's a medical fact says that we get the hair gel seen. The cut is great to the hair. We get Puffy and Magda going bockers on speed and then Puffy attacking Ted. And like when he throws the fourth one, he's like, you're gonna kill him. Don't throw another one. He looks sort of just whips another one out. We get the big confrontation when all the stalkers are all together. And then the closing credits are really good at this movie. I like how much foresight they put into just filming on location as they were finishing scenes and then forcing everybody to do Buttercup. All right, see how we got most rewatchable scene. Man, I'm so tempted to go to go with Richard Jenkins, but I think the healy meeting Mary, for me, honestly, the golf, yeah, that's for me as well, me too. It's the funniest stuff. And he's like, how do you know my name? It's written on your golf bag. Yeah. And she's so likable in it too, where it's like, it's actually believable that she might fall for the guy. Well, it's also like he's trying to do the like the game, though like, like I'm gonna neg you a little bit and like kind of act a little loof to see if that works. But just that their chemistry is very palpable and outside of the major set pieces, that's my-- You know what else is impressive about that whole scene? The first driving range shot he takes off the wall. Yeah. He goes and it goes off his bag, like kind of hard to do. I don't even know how they did that. Someone's dad was a golf pro. Yeah. So it's all because of the potential they did. What do you have? That's my favorite scene. I will say anytime Ted and Pat are talking to each other is incredible, but specifically when he's updating him the do's, do's in a half scene, there's a moment near the end of it where he gets handed a Budweiser when they're sitting outside. And he goes, excuse me, I ordered a whiskey sour. I think we need to watch some of these again, whatever. There's also that killed me this time. And Ted goes to see Pat to tell him, like, actually he does want to get in touch with her, but Pat's in the middle of quitting. Yeah. And he's just-- that's the whole, like, I'm going to Miami. I got a job with Rice Ruffie. And Sims just go trees, like, while they're changing their image, they just think about, wait, it was like-- It was the smoked thing. It's like, she's a mail order bride. What do you have for the other watching? Probably the golf scene. Or I do think any scene in Mary's apartment is really good. The dog stuff, the first time I saw this movie, the dog stuff slayed me. It was like a 13-year-old. Just the physical comedy of that of, like, pile driving. Yeah, when he puts the dog in the side headlock and then drops him down, that's pure gut bust. Weak prop. The dog prop is really good. The dog going at the dog's lap, yeah. Going away from the light. [LAUGHTER] Yeah, him shocking the dog. Yes, that's for a butt cake when they ask her if she wants anything. Do you want to hide a can or a Budweiser? What's the most 1998 thing about this movie? I have some runners up. Being excited about giving somebody a tonic in the glare, a side-based bump. Sure. Good one. That had a shelf life of about, maybe, 2003. Bread farf, cool bread farf. Bread farf being a goody two shoes. Yeah. Cool bread farf, any part of bread farf? Yep. Got it. Magda's smoking cools. A whole carton of cools, stuff down. I don't even know what they have. I think cools are still around. I have a winner, but would you have? I had just watching sports highlights at the end of the night being something that you build towards in your life. Exactly. It's like, let's go home and watch the game highlights. Picking up Hitchhiker? Sure. That's good one. I mean, there's a tremendous amount of gay panic jokes in this movie, like, like, a hundred of them. Yeah. You would never find that in a, like, 2020 movie. Well, our winner is cops, the TV show, being promptly involved in a scene. Yeah. Not dealing with it's happening. And that's seen. Yeah. Wookie getting his knob polished while watching cops is elite completely uncommented on. It's us at the last moment. The wife is in the movie. Well, the wife, her only, she's like the ideal, crazy, perfect wife, but he's still a obsessed maker. Yeah. Yeah. What sage the best, um, rest there, can I say one more thing? Yeah. The way that bad taste is played for laughs instead of, like, dramatic thrills is something really interesting to me about this movie. Like, bad taste is a skill and you can display it in a clever way. The family's always do that. But like, now bad taste to the point about the drama or like, adding tin, like, then, like, those taboos are things now that people play for like, ooh, like, is it okay to be talking about this? Where is, oh, yeah. And there's something about Mary. It's just pure comedy. Yeah. They're just going for it. What sage the best, rest there is being the bath houses of the 90s that joke is just as funny as it was in 1998. I don't know how you even come up with that. Also, from what sage the best standpoint, just stopping at a rest area, you got like 10 years out of mileage of, yeah, yeah, rest area, go up there, um, the musicians popping in, which we did not mention yet, Jonathan Richmond. Yeah. I can't believe this worked. But I really think it worked. Yeah. Thought it was a really funny, distinct part of the movie. It's, uh, such an unlikely choice, obviously a new Englander, right? So the Farrellese very new England filmmakers and, but I can't for whatever reason picture Peter Farrellie rocking out just like an amazing like Jonathan Richmond commitment to a bit because if that doesn't work, you're like, what the fuck? But like that kind of speaks to one of the things I have for what sage the best is the regional specificity of it, the Rhode Island Boston, yeah, he's got a Providence Bruins poster. Yeah. stuff is just like, they find a lot of stuff. a lot of humor in those places. And I think one thing that's really been lost in more modern movies is like, you know, the drama is set in Boston, but it might as well be set in Copenhagen. Like, it doesn't really feel like Boston. - It's a great point. - We've talked about this with other movies. Like, we were just better in the 80s and 90s like going into locations. - Well, they just point in a couple of places in the country and then they're like, yeah, they'll stand in for this or it'll just be any city. And you can get a lot of jokes. I mean, setting Lenny Clark in this movie, you know, is like a very annoying wink to the New England. - And Steve Sweeney, you don't forget about him. You have anyone to say to the best 'cause I had a couple more. - I just think most comedies age really badly. And this one I think is still really, really funny. So it actually makes me laugh out loud. - So I have a few 'cause this is a big movie for me and my wife. Magda jokes about anyone you know in your life who got way too much sun. Like, uh, veering a little toward the Magda side. (laughing) Magda's just become a 28 year over sun tan joke. Marquis Post. I'm just so glad she's in this movie. Just an absolute 80s icon in a legend and was trying to think her MBA example. Like kind of like the Dominique Wilkins of the 80s. Didn't get her just due. Did everyone's talking about that? - She had her lower Achilles out. - Heather Thomas, Heather Locklayer. - Some of them might be overstating just a little bit. - I don't know, Marquis Post. Everyone loved Marquis Post. - Yeah, but Dominique was on the resume from Marquis Post. - Nightcourt. - Nightcourt. - Right, nightcourt. Like that's it though. - Some killer posters. - Yeah. - Up on good TV movies. - She went in a dunk contest. Where she on the all-time scoring list. - She should have been. - At one point. - So maybe she's more like a Taren Stansbury. - I don't know. - That's nice. - Yeah. - That's good. - Don't get me wrong. I think she's great. - Unbelievable Sheer's episode. When she came in as Diane Chambers' best friend from college and hit on Sam Malone. And it might be the single best Sheer's episode. And Diane finally flips out. 'Cause they're flirting with each other the whole episode. - She apparently was like pre-scandalized by this movie. It was like really nervous to do it, but it was very happy she did. - Yeah. - I'm glad she's in it. - She's one of the only people that really, really truly pulled off 80s hair. 'Cause she had some real 80s hair. - Yeah. - For sure. - And it worked. - That basically the same haircut as Patrick Swazie and Young Bud. - Flogging the dolphin for a big date. - That's H. Well. - That's just a running joke now. - Flogged dolphin. - That's a bed. - Yeah, that's a bed. (laughing) - Pat Hewitt teeth, another running joke. - Whoa, some big jumpers. - They're more common than ever. - The lie that becomes a way bigger cover apply. - I think it's aged the best for me, but we grew up with this with 70 sitcoms. And now I don't feel like we do it anymore. - It was like the staple of half of the comedy for 20 years. - Yeah. - I also, I feel like in my life after this movie came out, like if a guy ever came home and was just like, but you know, she lives with her sister or something like that. People would be like, "First chick in the armor, day!" (laughing) - What about Brett Farvera? - When Stoer says that at the end. The Brett Farver thing, I think kind of came with him for five, six years and then people forgot. I like that they have young Cameron Diaz and young Ben Stoer with the wig and braces and like, and it actually works and they look younger. Sometimes when comedies do this, it looks ridiculous. - There's also something very sweet about opening with that, aside from the Franks and Beans thing and like, Ted's, you know, inciting incident is to have that, like idea of him as a character as a kid and be like, "Oh, this is like this sweet teenage love story "and not just this deranged, middle-aged man "who's like, time for me to stalk my high school girlfriend." - Well, the key is that he still wants to see or even though he's been told she's a doucin' half. That's right. - Tucker calling sex a good rogering. (laughing) I'd never heard it before since, but it always makes me laugh. - It makes me laugh. - Maybe it would give you a good rogering. - Is there a rogering gag in Austin Powers? - I've never heard the phrase rogering. Mary's theory that we need more meat on sticks. Does make you wonder why we don't- - Can we talk about- - That's just a corn dog. - Let's talk it out. - I don't think I've ever seen you eat meat on a stick. - Well, what's the other one they have like a long? - Well, it's like kebabs, but like five months. - Well, the teriyaki beef and appetizers. - Yeah. - I always like having this stick. - Would you think there should be more corn dog style? Like should there be like a steak dog of some kind? - No, I mean, I just, it's, I was just more surprised that this is something that's aged the best for a bill 'cause I don't often see him indulging in corn dogs. - I think the theory age grape for me, because I do like corn dogs. They have one in Santa Monica Pier that my wife has stopped my wife loves hot dogs, as you know. But they have a- - As you know, well, I've discussed before. She's a big hot dog, hot dog fan. - You must have missed that subject. - I know a lot about your wife, I know the truth. - Did you know the true hot dogs? - She loves hot dogs. - 'Cause the best part about hot dogs is when you have little kids, you get to relive the hot dog experience through the kids. You get hot dogs back, you get mac and cheese back. - That's true. - You're honestly gonna find out some day. You get all this food, you little mini chicken nuggets. - Yeah, okay. - One day things you just stop eating. - I will say, it is okay for you to have a hot dog diet. - Even though you don't have a child, but what you're saying is true, that like they're like a weekly current. - People don't go out of their way to have hot dogs unless they're at a baseball game. - You know what, my wife and I, I think it was like during or right after COVID would have like cooked out nights, but it would just be the two of us. And we would make hot dogs and I'd be like, there just doesn't hit the same when you're not with a bunch of people. - When it comes to cleaning the hot dogs. - If you're like, we're making hot dogs as our dinner, it feels a little beaten down. - It's just, it goes quick. - Yeah. - No, it's not a luxurious meal. - When we went to the Giants game a couple weeks ago, I couldn't decide whether I wanted a kielbasa or a hot dog. Got 'em both. - Double fisted. - No kidding. - Yeah. - Many people have told me that we really fucked up by not getting the crab sandwich. - Oh really? - Yeah. - I was so close. - I wasn't gonna do it. - God damn, that really hurt. - The lady next to me was like, "You don't want us to break that." - Baseball stadium crab. I don't care if we're having it. - It's on the bay though. - We're on the bay, come on. - Yeah, sure. - Lots of stuff happens on the bay. - Great ballpark though, right? - Awesome. - My last one to say is the best is when Pat Healey is pretending he built the soccer stadium and cut and norm says, you built the stadium, Lipa Goen, he goes, "No, just out "the street, the Solento Calea takes hours." (laughing) - Okay. - I have one more, which was when Ted goes to see Wogey at his law office and Chris Elliott's got the poster of this bus crash, 12 kids killed. What does that cost us? - It's on the whiteboard. - Turned into like insurance adjusters meeting. We didn't talk about Chris Elliott yet. - We have a couple spots you wanna do it now. - I just think that like there's the Lee Evans like there's the Tucker character. And then I found Chris Evans to be fucking hysterical this time around. - Chris Elliott. - Chris Elliott, sorry, Chris Elliott. - Yeah. - Chris was hysterical this time around. - It's funny cause I was a letter, early letterman guy and he was a writer and they started using him on the show. It was the first time, so initially he was the guy underneath the stairs and he would come out, he'd like pop up and he was like this running bit, he would interrupt the show as like the psycho who lived in the stairs and then he did the fugitive guy. - Yeah. - Which was basically every episode would end like the fugitive but it would be three minutes and but then everything peaked when he was Marv Albert. He would come out and do the Albert achievement awards in this Marv Albert week and I just would have bought all this. I had all the Chris Elliott stockin like 1996. So this guy is gonna transform comedy as we know it and this I think was his biggest movie. - And this is after Get a Life and After Cap and Boy, right? - Yeah. - So it kinda, it happened and it didn't hit. - He had a bad SNL run, he had like a year in SNL that didn't really work. - So this is kinda after all of that and he's still, it's such a fearless performance cause Woogie is so gross. - All the hype and stuff, yeah. - He tried to do Marlon Brando was another running character, he tried to do a letterman too but he was just, kept you on your toes. Matt Damon and your trip award for most unexpected day Lister cameo, Brett Farvera. Great shot, Gordon award, what do you got, CR? - You know what, do we just go for the ball shot? - It was my, the first one I wrote down. - Yeah, I think it's just the most confrontational piece of cinema I've ever seen. - Yeah, it's like several, yeah, it's like several moments in cruising, right? A torsion testicle, I have a better answer. - Okay, better. - Yeah. I think how they hide the giant lot of come on Ted's left ear for 12 seconds and so she's like, what's out of your ear and he turns? If you actually watch it, they do a really good job of, you only seen from this side, you never see the left ear. And so they really spring it on you and I think it's impressive. - Yeah. - A lot of leering shots of Cameron Diaz who are binoculars in this movie as well. I don't know if you guys picked up on that. - I like when he got the bigger binoculars than she's Magda. - This is Magda. - It's like his binoculars weren't good enough. He needs like the, whatever. Chest Rockwell Brockliners Award for Best Character Name, Magda. - I had Dom Wogey Woganowski. - Oh, that's good. All right. Kid Cuddy, you should have happened so we're a best needle drop. - You love this soundtrack, don't you? - I really like Mary's Prayer by Danny Wilson. - I have every day should be a holiday by Danny Warhol's. Guys, it's built me a buttercup, please coming. Buttercups, the answer, the ending. OK. See how you have a flex category. Brandy Booth award for the best performance by a pet goes to Puffy. Absolutely amazing dog performance. You know, I don't know how often they were using a dog puppet or a dog zombie, you know, like, yeah, zombie, not zombie. It's making you want to get a dog this movie? No, OK. No, but I like to observe from a distance, and it seems fun. And it's just one of the one of the funniest dog characters I can think of. That's the right answer. Dorfler's door award for how much did that hurt? The beans get over the Frank and the zipper. Ever had a friend who had some sort of like injury down there? Obviously no. You know, but I've been thinking about this recently. I think it would have been the most important thing that ever happened to any of my friends that that happened. You were saying about how when you have young kids that mac and cheese and hot dogs come back into your life, the other thing that comes back in your life when you have little kids is accidental nut shots, which like, I just, for sometimes they're not accident. They don't seem that accident. I had a daughter not a son. So I'm fortunate to not get the purposeful ones. Ben had six months where he was just like, this is the one area I know I can hurt him. This is the funniest thing in the world. I'll just, and they're like the same height, they're like, and that's like, that's the true human, the true male frailty, because you get you, you surprisingly get hit in the nuts. And you're like, I, perhaps I should just die now. Like there's no recourse from that. So just pump that up. This is just such a great, like depiction of everybody in the 90s and the 80s, I'm sure, like had the story about the kid in the other town over who hadn't pooped all summer. You know, like, it was just like the kid at prom who zipped his balls up and had to be taken away by an ambulance. It's just so, it's so resonant. That's actually with that movie I told you about oops, I pooped my pants and killed my daughter's boyfriend excited, that's about it's about that kid. I almost said that guy's name on the real, there was a real guy. Well, just say it, just like to say, is he alive? He is. He didn't die from that, that, no, but he had to go to the hospital. He did. Yeah. What they do. We forgot to talk about how funny it was when they do the one, two, and then it cuts there. We got a bleeder. It's a great cut. You don't have a zipper story, do you, Craig? I don't. You come up with one later, I had a, I had a, I'm throwing in here. It's a book about metals award for blatantly best quarter exchange. I took a job with rice errone, isn't that the San Francisco treat? It was. It was. It was kill me for some reason. He's like, no, no, it's over. It's not the San Francisco treat, I really enjoy that. And then the Billy Bats Jack Walts award for most biting and scalable insult. I'm not coughing up chompers, would that tell her Pat Haley won't pay his check right away? I love, this one isn't directly to someone's face, but when Pat and Ted are talking and he goes, who roll or pig are you nuts? And Ted says you said she was a real spark plug. No, I said butt plug. She's heinous. You can't forget it's a sumo culture, Ted. They pay by the pound over there, sort of like I'm tuna. My favorite Billy Bats is actually far of being like I'm in town to play the dolphins. We dumb ass. Butch is girlfriend or wig click in the film. I got this one. What do you got? Theatrical cut, Sully, the Jeffrey Tambor part. So and this is also because after you've watched like, or as a development, you're like Jeffrey Tambor's in this movie. It must be like a really significant in the extended cut. He has an entire plot line about him falling off the wagon and being eaten by a Python. But in this theatrical cut, you're just like, why is he in this movie and what was this whole what was the point of this? Which one did you watch to prepare for this? I watched the theatrical and then went to the just the Jeffrey Tambor scenes or the extended cut. It's tough to cut Jeffrey Tambor, but I don't think this movie needed more stuff in it. No, he's very funny when he picks Pat up from the airport as well. What did you have for Weekly Inc? I mean, there's not really like a person. Did you? What do you think? I have a strong way. What do you think of Tucker? I like Lee Evans. You're about to go in on Lee Evans. That's here. I have Tucker. Oh, no. It's a nitpick as well. I just don't understand Tucker's plan. Well, okay, but that's so to me, Tucker's plan, I have that in the category. So he meets Mary. He falls for her. He pays somebody to break his bat with a baseball bat so then she can treat him as North of Peter Surgeon, pretenses in English guy with a cane who's who's basically crippled out from this injury, but he's also delivering pizza on the side and he thinks this is going to land Mary. But what happens when he actually lands Mary? Like he is the worst plan of anyone and if Mary is an orthopedic surgeon, wouldn't she look at new X-rays of his back and be like, your back has been healed? Because clearly all of it falls apart. I don't understand really any part of it. Yeah. What is up to? It's only one of the things you notice after watching this movie 12 times. I'm taking it seriously when it's not meant. Yeah. I just felt like Tucker could have maybe three more hours in the spitball session on Tucker. Maybe Tucker got injured on a motorcycle, Mary treated him and then he'd be, you know, there's something better. I don't disagree. I think he's a little bit turned up. I know the movies are ridiculous, but Sean, what you were saying earlier about how Matt Dillon's character is taking it seriously. Chris Elliott, I feel like he's taking it seriously. I do feel like Tucker is the only character where I'm like, this actually does break the world a little bit. He is like doing something bigger than the rest of the characters in the movie. It's a little more slapstick and screwball than anyone else. Yeah. I also had him for the rough, low-handed Rubina Parcher Jo Ber acting word. I was, I was concerned. He really doused it up. One of the times. It's weird what happened with him because he was the star of Mouse Hunt. Remember the movie Mouse Hunt in 1997, you see that movie? And then there's something about Mary and then he's in the leaves, and he was in the fifth element. He was in a bunch of stuff in the late '90s. He was a big standup comic in England. And then basically never acted in movies again. He's only in a few more movies. Yes, the world agreed with you guys. Wait, what was your weakest link? You just didn't really happen. There's not really an actor in this that I think is bad. In fact, I think it's like overstuffed with way overqualified actors. You guys all like the musical interstitials? I personally do, but I'm used to them. I can see why. I do think that. It's one of the only signals also that there's another, I don't even say consciousness. Like there's another POV on the story of the movie that's like kind of like tongue and cheek. You know what I mean? It's like a fake. It's like a fairy tale. It's like, yeah. It's, yeah. You're just not a Jonathan Richmond guy, apparently. It's okay. I feel like that's such an easy like four minutes that you could take out of the movie and I don't think he's always thinking about length. Well, that's not even that. I just like, those are the moments in the movie where I kind of like, okay, I guess I'll check my phone until they're done saying, you don't find it funny when this sniper. That was funny. Sure. Yeah. The gag at the end. Maybe it's all worth it for that. But I did feel that. I felt like that was a little bit. I mean, you're like, okay, I kind of get this. Craig, I forgot to ask you what the Heraldbeck score was for this. Yeah. It's two hour movie. I like it. Like I said, 19 minutes. So we're plus. 19? 19. I do think you could probably shave five to ten minutes of this movie and it's maybe a little time. So what would you take out besides Jonathan Richmond? I think I would. You're probably going to hate this. That's not religious. I would probably. I don't think you need the hitchhiker scene and I think you could get rid of the musical stuff and it's probably like an hour forty. No. The hitchhiker scene is. How could you not have the hitchhiker scene? It doesn't have anything to do with the movie. It's good. Listen, he's just Heraldbeck in it up. Can I give you this on the Jonathan Richmond? Uh-huh. Is that the musician? Yeah. The music stuff. It walks so the Dan band could then run. Fair. With the hangover. And what was the other movie they were in? There were a bunch of stuff. There were two big ones. Oh, forgetting Sarah Marshall? No. I mean, no. Wedding Crashers? Wedding Crashers. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. I never said if I get the Dan band. I think it's a great choice. The Jonathan Richmond stuff. It feels very 90s. It does. It does. Cutting the hitchhiker and then the subsequent interrogation scene is non-negotiable. And we do get the kindergarten cop guy. Speaking of which I like. He was like, "We on a cab real low." And me, Johanna Ruback is Richard Tyson. He's a wedding detective. It's just tough. He's got really good words for it. Tough part on the rewatch. It was for Richard. What do you think he crushed in his movie? We're going to take one more break and then do what's at yours. All right. Well, it's age to the worst. Brett Farvera? Yeah. It's a great casting in 1998. Now, it's kind of weird to see him. Yeah. It's tough. Tough times for Brett. Also. Quarterbacked the jets. And then Warren, Warren, I think, even the Farrelays are like, "Yeah, we probably fucked that up. We should have cast somebody who is special needs." Yeah. That's not how they thought in the 90s. Peter said, "I wouldn't do that today. I don't want to hire an actor with intellectual disabilities." They're all over the place at that time. They weren't. Didn't get the opportunity to get into that. I don't have any other words to age to work. I didn't really have. I mean, once you go in on the premise of this film, it's a comedy. Yeah, it's a comedy. Sean, you have a flex category. Yeah, usually this category is reserved for thrillers and horror films, but when would I have died? It's not the zipper. It's not when my date's father would have come into the room. It's when the police officer would come through the window. That's when I would have died from zip and my Johnson up in my zipper. Police officer would have intimidated it. Yeah. I think it would have just sort of bled to death. Scared stiff, yeah. Yeah. That's what I would have died. I like it. The CR thinks Luke Wilson could have been Harrison Ford. How does take a word? What do you got here? Is Ted the most deranged of all these guys? Is Ted sitting around, well, you know, obviously I would rank Tucker first. I think Tucker is a fucking maniac. It's not that like, here's the, here's the mid speed. Ted's lies are just kind of harmless. This Ted of a, this Ted of a job. He's a magazine writer. Yeah. Magazine writer. Yeah. Yeah. I'm curious what kind of pieces he writes. It's funny. Whatever is like, you could just work from anywhere. Yeah. Searing explorations of fascism in the New Yorker. Yeah. And he's just like, God, really obsessed with this girl. So what's the case for Ted being most honest? Well, I mean, hanging on to that obsession for so long that you're still in therapy about it. You horrified her entire family in the course of 15 minutes. Like it's not really, I understand why the severity of your injury made you go retreat within yourself, but like you're plenty of opportunities to reach out. You stalk her. You use a private investigator to go after her. That private investigator winds up lying to you about his results. But then you still pursue her all the way down to I 95, you really get arrested for murder. And yeah, obviously learn some lessons. But I think that there's something about the lengths of what he goes to that suggests you might be like the craziest one of the three. So I'll take what you got Ben stiller is the greatest cook actor of all time. Wow. Wow. If you need a cook. Yeah. If you need a guy, if you need a bitch boy, right? If you need somebody who is like the most sense, he not only does he make the most sense, but there actually is like not a second choice. There's not a comic actor who you could be like, I mean, the whole premise of the movie is this guy is a loser and will lose all the way until the end. And then I'll get the girl. But that's the premise of like nine one hundred million dollar Ben stiller movies. Really good. So mine is also a casting what if the fairly brothers wanted a cast drew blood. So as as the bread farf character. And he passed because he had just had this mosh club incident. Which was a big deal. It was going to be embossed. What was the concert? They were I forget who that who was playing, but it was it wasn't ever clear. Was it? I think it might have been it might have been ever clear was I think it was in providence. Yeah, maybe it was a bot. I don't remember what city was in, but it was ever clear. Yeah. The Pats. That's knowledge right there. Him and a couple of offensive linemen and it was just bad and it became a huge deal. And like the pay, this was P Carol was the coach this this inmates are running the asylum kind of stuff and right around then he got and he was like, I better not do it. My how to take is I think this is the most underrated thing that ever happened to Patriot fans. Because if he takes this movie and it makes $380 million and he becomes a little bit cooler, that confidence then goes on the field and I don't know if Tom Brady ever happens. Do you think that this does he still do the ever clear concert in this version of that? He'd already done it. That's why. Yeah. He just said yes anyway. He redeems himself somehow redeems himself movie star becomes he goes Jeremiah and this. He's got his mojo back. Tom Brady's right there. He's like, you know what? I think there's something about Mary made 350 million dollars. I'm not you're I'm not afraid of you. He started getting Cameron Diaz. Yeah. Maybe he doesn't run out of bounds. He just runs out of bounds instead taking the hit from Maloas because he's not like insecure. He's just out. Yeah. In this version of events, it's like Cameron Diaz dates Drew Bledso and then Neil de Grass Tyson. And then right. Right. And then we don't get six super balls. Yeah. That that level of confidence in Drew Bledso could have led to super balls from Drew Bledso. Like it's very possible. I'm just saying it's an answer universe for the past. What would you rather take? You'd rather have Tom knowing what we know about the six super balls and I'm fine with bread far of being in this movie. What about six super balls from Drew and then not Tom, you know, not choosing a rooting interest in the Super Bowl, you know, some of the deflate gate stuff. I don't know. The six in his health console, you know, getting cocked by just a bunch and like all these things that happened, you know, that video where it grew apart. That was a tough one. Yeah. Kissed it on the video. You don't get that. That's happening Tom Brady some other stuff. I'm sorry. I brought this up. You may be not the warmest room to do it. Yeah. Casting what ifs Owen Wilson and John Stewart were the two candidates for Ted. Bill Murray was considered for Pat Haley with Fairless Studies to vote Vince Vaughn, Cuba Gooding Jr. Also considered for Pat Haley. I think Vince Vaughn could have done this. I think he could have, but I think I'm glad we ended up with that. There's an element of Vince Vaughn that I think also would have been like a little mugged into the camera. Like. Yeah. Is he? Is he too tall? He was going to be Ted. Yeah. No. Pat Haley. He could have done Pat. Yeah. I think he did. And then they also offered the Mary part, the bread far apart to Steve Young. He turned it down to the film's course nature because he said the Mormons would all come out and see it and that they would they would reject him. What do you stand on, Steve Young? I always admired that you knew when to hang them up. Yeah. Hmm. The weirdest one ever. That's why I did not know. I did not know this one. Chris Farley turned down Warren. This would have been a real thing. And they couldn't have been sure to many way. He did dirty work. And then he died as they were making the movie. So it probably a good miss by all parties. But I think that that would have been really distracting. I think that that ruins the movie. Yeah. I think it would have been seen as more, it would have aged worse. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Best act I word, not eligible. Lenny Clark and Steve Sweeney. Richard Tyson. Why are they not eligible? Because I'm making them not eligible. Richard Tyson is not eligible. He's not eligible. We just covered him two weeks ago. He's Chris. People know Richard Tyson. OK. Right. Richard. Do I think people know his name as Richard Tyson? No, they probably don't. Fine. He's eligible. I don't. Did you know who played Magda? Yeah, Lin Shan. Lin Shan. Lin Shan. Paula Cister. Yeah. We also have Sanford from Sex and the City. A.K. Willie Garcin. Right. We're in the long wig with like big sits on it. That's who I had. That's a good one. I think the winner is W. Oral Brown as Warren. He's up there. Deadwood fans were Joyce. The master. The cameraman and scream. He was in Deadwood. He was in the master. And he apparently had three years in NYPD Blue. Joaquin's the Joaquin and him getting the fight in the master, right? That's right. Real ones would go. I think Rob Moran, who is in Dumb and Dumber, Kingpin. He's the bartender and Dumb and Dumber. He's one of the bad guys, Stanley Osmanski and Kingpin. And he's clearly a fairly brother's extended player. He's in the troupe. And he pops up in a bunch of their moves. He's in shallow. And himself and Irene. He's the other cop. He's. Oh, that guy. He's Tyson's partner. Oh, that's a good guy. Yeah. Okay. Deon Waiters are nominees, include Avery Brooks, Richard Jenkins, Jeffrey Tambor, Magda, Harlan Williams, Chris Elliott, Brett Farve, Mongo. We don't see Mongo, but I think he's in here anyway. Sure. And then Jonathan Richmond. What do you got, C.R.? I think it's Jenkins. I don't. Did you say Keith David? Oh, I didn't. I don't know why he's. Keith David. I said, Avery Brooks, and I meant Keith. I just got Avery Brooks and Keith David. Confused. We did a whole podcast. I was like, because Avery Brooks. Yeah. Yeah. Keith David. Keith David. We did a whole segment before about how those guys, you could have swapped them into for us. I think there will be a contingent of listeners who think it's Harlan Williams. I would go for, they're the same people who don't think Richard Tyson is a that guy. Yeah. I think my answer, the Harlan Williams is pretty good. Do you know that old children's tale from the sea? What do you, who'd you pick? Keith David. Keith David. Keith David. I think it's Keith David. Okay. I don't know. I just caught a Avery Brooks. Recast and couch director city. Can I test drive Norm McDonald as Tucker for you guys? Oh. Yeah. Doing the British accent. Maybe we get rid of the British accent for Norm, but he's just doing Tucker pretending he heard his back. But now he's delivering pizzas. It's an enormous pat. Norm is pat could work too. I just felt like Norm McDonald could have been in this movie. Could he have been the Richard Tyson? Could he have been Wogi? He could have been Wogi. Like, I just felt like we needed him in this somewhere. He was busy making dirty work. I get it. I mean, Norm fits in perfectly with this movie. If Norm is Tucker in this movie, I think it's better. Can I make a suggestion in this category? Yeah. I want to recast the genre because I think you can remake the movie exactly the same but as a lorid thriller. Oh my god. It would be such a great from hell. From hell movie. Yes. But it's like five stalkers from hell that are all going after. Yeah. It's basically like a shame opening up our heart and getting it like and then finding out the guy is a complete lie. Exactly. I feel like Black stars might be making this right now. No. It's like power season seven or MGM MGM plus your MGM plus. Yeah. I mean, the Chris Elliott turn is legitimately showing in this movie. Yeah. It was two minutes where it's very kind of scary. Yeah. Well, he's got like his face is full of boils. He's like twitching and he's got the eye boil or shoes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The shoe thing really deflated. They're very smartly pivoted to having it. Because you obviously think it's going to be like him doing something physical to her and he's just smelling her shoes. He's still on my shoes. Yeah. Craig, you have a flex category. I'm going to work put on my van hat and I'm going to do a top five list. Top five most shocking and hilarious male nudity in a major comedy. Okay. Yeah. The zipper scene and there's something about Mary, the ball sack on the drum set and stepbrothers. Yeah. Jason Siegel, full nude surprise, and forgetting some Marshall, the Borat naked hotel fight. Yeah. Yeah. And Ken Jong naked crowbar scene in the hangover. So those are all comedies. Yeah, that's the category. Oh, it's just comedies. Funniest new to do. Yeah. Well, shocking and hilarious. Melting that is funnier. Well, to live in LA when Peterson is just like, let me go. I laughed. The other contenders, MC Ganey and sideways. Oh, that's a good one. That's a really good one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We get to see him running. And then the giant devil penis. And this is the end. But I don't know if he conscious a male. Did it? Yeah. How did you Google Surson? I delicately investigated. Yeah. Hey, Claude. Yeah. You'd be surprised to talk about this. This is the first time you talked to Claude. It's okay. Was the circus. I'm curious about it. I comedy is male nude scene penis. I really made the I made sure that Google knew like humorous male nudity scenes that are jokes. Funny male nudity scene. Let's get your search history up on the screen right now. Can we get that? I got nothing to hide. I stand by this top. It's just the guy letting in tape. Can I give you the answer? Okay. First of all, great category. It's not on his list. My answer. No, the answer is Borat. That's the fucking funniest. The Dolphite's Borat. Yeah. Ever with the fucking Ozama. Like that. That's it. That's the peak of everything. Another movie that had the same kind of energy. Yeah. Borat theater is the same thing. Half at internet research. The scene when Ted gets his scrubs stuck in his pants was inspired by a real incident. Fairly brothers. Their sister was listening to records and one of the kids went to the bathroom. Friends with their sister had that happen. Not the same thing, but some of it. When Ted falls off the stretcher, not scripted, they kept it in. It was a mistake. Ben Stiller fell off. The waterfront. He grabbed his arm kind of play realistically. The waterfront house where Mary lived in Miami was destroyed in 2008 by a construction accident. It's gone. High school scene in the beginning was shot at Plantations City Hall in Florida. They saw a rough cut. They thought it was too raunchy and they requested to not big knowledge in the credits. When you offend Florida, you've really pulled something off. And then we mentioned the tambour scene. And then the Diaz worried that the gel scene was going to gross people out. So they shot two versions. There's also a pretty pointless, but I guess it's like if you're curious, there is one of the extended cutscenes is about Ted's family. And it's like, oh, Ted's brother and donating kidneys to the brother. They build it up a little bit more, but what he's been doing between. Apex Mountain, still or no, we're not there yet. Okay. I don't have a star. Diaz, I think, yes. I think she comes out of this. Is this her biggest movie? Because it's my best friend's one in the year before then this. And I feel like she has the juice. Now that leads to Charlie's Angels. She gets 20 million for Charlie's Angels too, I think. Are you sure it's not Charlie's Angels? Maybe, but I feel like she was the. She kind of takes Julia Roberts's ironically, like probably her title here. I think she could have done whatever she wanted after this movie. She's like two rom-coms late when I was looking at the IMDB, because eventually it doesn't the holiday. Sweetest thing isn't really a rom-com, but she's. It's a comedy. She just made more sex comedies than rom-coms. She was not really a. She's in the holiday, but she was not really a rom-com person. She didn't make it like a while you were sleeping or. But she really. She's just like sex tape, you know? She made the Malk Ridge movie, she did the Gangs in New York. Matt Dillon, no. What's Matt Dillon's Apex Mountain? I think it's the '80s. Do you think it's outsiders? I think a rumblefish or whatever. He felt like he was the biggest teen actor in the world in the '83/'84 range for a couple years then. The Fairly Brothers, yes. So, this leads to me, myself and Irene, a year later, which is some Bokers movie, a year and a half. I wrote down the Fairly's, and I think it's probably the answer. But, you know, Peter Farley won Best Picture. Like, whatever, 20 years later. So, would you say this was Bobby Farley's Apex Mountain, but Peter Farley was winning for Green Book? I think it's. I think it's theirs just because. As a combo, this is it. I think Peter Farley and Bobby Farley would probably go out and like, they could do a screening for this movie tomorrow and it would be full and they would be like, "Arts, I don't know that Green Book has that legacy." You can't have a comedy. Do better than this, I don't think. Like, this movie was an absolute comedy phenomenon that made a ton of money and created. Either created stars or made stars bigger. It's also just so striking because like, we just did Ghostbusters into watch a movie where it's like. Ghostbusters still at the last 20 minutes is like kind of a sci-fi movie. Like, a lot of the Jokes and Ghostbusters are set to the side of like the plot. This movie is like every scene is a gag. Every scene builds up to a big, big punchline. The Providence Bruins? No. Chris Elliott? It was the Providence Bruins Apex Mountain. The huge poster in the one bedroom scene with Ben Stoer. You get. But I'm saying, was there another Apex Mountain? They won a couple of A.H.L. titles. Okay. Okay. Chris Elliott? Letterman. Yeah, I think it's Letterman. Apex, it's probably this. I mean, maybe that first episode of Get a Life where I was like, it's happening. Like, it's like the premiere episode, it's like it's on Fox, was it Sunday night? Like, against. Like, after The Simpsons, right? Like, that was. Right, Herman's head. I was more of a Herman's head guy. Would you go Funny Come Scenes or something else here? I mean, Buffalo. Migs is pretty high up there for Funny Come Scenes, but it's unintentional comedy. This is the most intentional Come Scenes funny. What are some other Come Scenes? Greg, I want to give you that for us. Yeah, I'll pull that up. Funniest Come Scenes. Hold on, guys. Franks and Beans. Apex Mountain for the terminology. The phrase or. Franks and Beans. I think it's the funniest penis injury I've ever seen. I will say this, Franks and Beans has been a running joke of my house ever since about actual Franks and Beans and like, uh, you know, changing. You could do this to go anywhere. Like, I don't know where you're gonna take this. Changing our son's diaper. Okay. Okay. Like, make sure you get under the Franks and Beans like that. It's just been in the next con in the cemetery. Sorry, Ben. Miami Committees. I'm gonna say yes. Yeah, okay. Miami Vice is hilarious to me. Miami Movies gets a little more interesting. I think it's Miami Vice. It's Miami Vice. Are you excited? It's Carface, where are we talking about it? For Miami Vice, he's not really talking about it. Okay. Do you want you want to do like a separate little segment at the end of this? Did you hear Sean's idea? Flippin' 'em. Flippin' 'em. Oh, making. Oh, making. MBJ is crackheaded. MBJ is crack it in Austin Butler's tubs. That got me excited. Right? Isn't that the move? That is the move. I don't think Austin Butler can be sunny crack it. But MBJ can be sunny crack it. Have we ever seen him smoke a cigarette? Uh, I feel like he smokes cigarettes in caught stealing, right? He does. And that's the reason. Is that not what they're doing? It's not MBJ, is sunny. I don't know. I feel like it would have to be. Uh, that would be weird for. Michael would be Jordan to be like, "I'm happy to play second." Oh, great. Fiddle to Austin Butler. I just want an Oscar. Jamie did it. Yeah. And he was bigger at the time. And had to come up with coming off for an Oscar win. I guess you're right. Crazy Suntans. It's actually the same thing as coming off the Ray Win. Crazy Brown Suntans. I think, yes. Jonathan Richmond definitely has. Cruise or Hanks? I cruise. As Ted or somebody else? I would like to see Cruise with the Chompers as Healy. See, I think actually 80s Hanks could do Pat Healy. Yeah. Oh, interesting. I had Hanks either as Ted or Pat Healy. Hanks could have done either part. Cruise could have done the, uh, the hitchhiker. Seven minute abs. I think Hanks is the answer. Scorsese, you're Spielberg. Tough one for these guys. I think it's Marty and it's Cape Fear. It's basically, it's just a thriller. That's good. The Catherine Tremel. Would you throw your life away for this obvious stay away word? Is that for Mary? Who's the stay away? I think it's Mary just because she has all these psychos after her. Oh, yeah. Oh, once you find out her dating history and it's like, you've dated an FL quarterback and three guys and four girls. Yeah. She's a maybe academic. I'm looking over your shoulder the entire time. Yeah. You get murdered by some stalker. I would still throw it away. Picking it's. Why does Mary's an orthopedic surgeon but lives in this weird complex where she shares a balcony with Magda. This is where. What's going on here? Yeah. I feel like this is like basically right out of like 90 sitcoms where it's like, yeah, they all live together. And it's like, why would they all live with Magda? Wouldn't she be in like a. on the 34th floor of some high rise and stuff? Is it supposed to be that she's in fact this next door neighbor and is like kind of shares a balcony with her or does she live with Magda? No, she lives next door. She explains it, right? Magda's husband dies and was lonely. And Cameron Diaz is like the most altruistic human that's ever lived. Right, so it's doing her a favor by keeping her company. And then Magda starts kneeling, the homeless. Doc, Doc, worker. Speaking of Mary, does she have patience? Is she working? She seems to like. She's Tucker in her office. Yeah, but that's the. Otherwise, it's like during the day she's like driving around those surgeries. Play golf and buy like checkers for. She's working at the camp. Yeah. She's checking out her golf suite. You wanted more scenes of her. - Well, that might explain why she's living in a small apartment. - Not getting a lot of business. - Yeah. - What do I like to have seen her, at least like move somebody's knee around and be like, "How's your ACO feel better?" - That's what happens. - Yeah, okay. - Does that feel better? - Wouldn't Ted have known that he went to the same high school as Wiggy? - Well, he went to Wiggy one time. - He went to Borington Falls, or whatever they talked about. - But he knew Mary's, okay, same town at least. - Same neighborhood, yeah. It says four towns over it. We heard about it four towns over it. - But he knows who Wiggy is. - Yeah. - He knows this guy's name is Don Wiggin' Asky. Never put the two and two together. I guess Ted's not a record scientist. - Yeah, he's just a magazine writer. - I have one more big one, but do you have any? - I don't really know what Dom's plan here was. Dom gets the ball rolling downhill. - Yeah, why is he helping Ted, but trying to sabotage him. - Kind of, he's a maniac. - But he wants he lead to find Mary, and then he's gonna go, but like when he's home watching cops, was he like, I might go down there anyway, or is he only go down there once Ted gets arrested? - Well, he's relieved earlier in the film when he hears that Mary is overweight. And he is only interested really in coming down when he finds out it's a ruse, right? - Yeah. - So then when he learns that Mary-- - That's face that's breaking out. - Yeah, yeah. - How would Ted ever get a hold of Brett Farve, the week of the Dolphin's game? - This is an incredible question. - Brett Farve's like 30 million people before watching NFL games and then-- - Back in '98 that those guys have to go through like massive film sessions. Wasn't it just kind of go out there and throw some frozen ropes? - Out of all 30 starting quarterbacks in NFL, who's the one you think you get closest to getting in touch with right now? - Oh, this is a fucking awesome question. - Not Jalen Hertz, I'll tell you that much. - That's for darn sure. - I would have said-- - He's very awake. - I don't-- - I'm really super bowl. - Why not? - 'Cause he seems like a regular guy. - He seems like the kind of guy would be like, I also like prestige television. I would be able to watch and maybe DM once. - What do you think? - I think the answer is Drake May, because you go through his wife. - She's very-- - She's very-- - No, do you go through Drake May's wife and she's on social media all the time. - And she's like, "I want to hang out with your husband." - "I want to hang out with your husband." - "I want to hang out with your husband." - No, who's like the least successful actor? - I bet Bryce Young. - Bryce Young, number one overall pick. - Oh, this is stupid, Baker. Baker would definitely-- - That's the answer. - Baker. - Isn't the answer Tyler Schuck? It's like 25 happy to be here. - No, but Baker actually would be this and Baker would be like, "Yeah, man, I'll come hang out on like a Thursday." I feel like Baker's does like three pods a week. - Any other pick-and-its? - To me, the biggest one is like, "I get Pat's move here." Okay, let me go back. Is Pat's move to have sex with Mary? Or is it to be in love for everybody? - I think he loves him. - I think what's the Mary Mary? - Yeah, he loves her. - Okay, so that plan is gonna follow part of some point, right? - Yeah, and he's probably gotta uncap his teeth. - Right. - And then you already pointed out Tucker Norm's long game is just baffling. - Yes. - But speaks to Mary's flawed orthopedic surgery career. - Right. - sequel prequel prestige to be all black cast or untouchable. I think it's untouchable. Is this movie better way? - Are you sure you don't wanna do all black cast? - I think it's an untouchable. - Is this movie better than Wayne Jenkins, Fergie the Flores, Zayn Lowe, Robert Evans, Ryan Rukow or somebody else? - I definitely think that there was some space here for Fergie because of the new one. - I don't know what you got. - And it's just like Fergie being like, "You're gonna do this for me. "You're gonna go down on Miami and find this Mary." Or I'm gonna clip ya. (laughing) - Fergie can't clip head. - Yeah. (laughing) - Fergie is, I don't think I can handle Fergie's woow-woow-g-g-g. Fergie the Flores watching cops is not okay. - You wanna do Robert Evans Explore it up, Mary? (laughing) - When did Robert Evans come back? - Robert Evans is back. - Can you hear me? - I don't know if you wanna do it. - Robert Evans or Robert Logia? - Robert Evans. - Was Robert Evans ever in the mix here? - I don't know. I just thought we'd throw that. - Mary had the kind of legs that could stop a room. - She had Nellie Court as golf swing. - She loved meat on a stick and she could hit a three iron, 100 Nandios. (laughing) (laughing) - I introduced it as Steve McQueen and I never saw any of them again. - I introduced it as Brett Favre. She was living in Green Bay this time next year. - Brett Favre never won another game that year. - Just one Oscar who gets it, you'd go Dylan? - Yeah. - I'm going the prop master. - Oh, I'll go the script. - We got Puffy, we got Loeb Cumb, you know? - Yeah. - Probably an answerable questions. What replaced rest areas as the bath houses of the 90s for the next three decades, you know? - It's a great question Bill. - What were the zero zeros? (laughing) - I don't know how to answer that. - I'm not sure I know. - Yeah, I don't know. - I don't really know either. - My question was. - A big tinder hopped in there. - Yeah, I think online swipe left swipe right. - Or yeah, one of those swipe, yeah. - What's the podcast equivalent of emptying the baby batter before the date? Like, is that like what I do the watch before the rewards? - Before we recorded Bill's like, you guys fresh, nothing pods today? This one don't want to be all used up. Trying to squeeze the second one out. - Well, I had Zach last night. We recorded most of the podcast, but then we did the top late night. And he's like groggy and half asleep. And it's the best version of Zach. - I think you guys were talking about IO and he's just like, I don't know what the fuck you do there. - I love groggy, Zach. - Did Ted and Mary get married? - I think they date for like six weeks and break up. - Yeah, 'cause he can't carry this. - What do you mean? - No, she's, she's like marrying Ronnie. - I also think he gets nude by we didn't talk about this by Sarah Silverman and Katie Alexander. I don't think it lasts five seconds with them. - Oh true, we forgot to mention them. They had two very stereotypical 90s romcom comedy "Girls Hang It Out" scenes. - Yeah. - This is my big one. How did this movie not have a sequel? - I assume they had a chance to do it. - This is just good thinking. This is like, let's not fuck with this. Like a sequel, a bad sequel, this movie screws up the integrity of this movie. - All right, you're saying that rationally. - Like, I'm surprised to. - Like, somebody that is treated in the movie industry, like something that's not gonna bastardize good IP at the moment they feel like they sent some dollar cents. It's crazy to me. Ben Stoward's a much bigger star. Cameron Diaz is a much bigger star for this movie. The Farley Brothers probably needed some sort of comeback thingy in the around 2005, '06 range. And they never thought about doing a sequel? - It's crazy, they did a sequel to "Dumb and Dumber". They did the Three Stooges movie. They remade the heartbreak kid. So it's not like they were above this kind of thing. - I just thought it's the all-time lamp. I can't believe they didn't do it. - And you think that there's anything-- - What happens still now? - To the idea, so they basically this movie comes out in '98. They essentially need to make this movie before '08 to get it under the social media wire. Because after that, it's just like, yeah, I know what Mary's doing. I look at her on Facebook, right? And so like, there's only a small window to kind of pull off that premise. - Cameron Diaz is only 53. I mean, you could easily, we're gonna space ball sequel next year. - The Meet the Focker's Grand Kids movie, right? - Yeah. - Oh, that's yeah, that's right. Meet Focker and Law. - Focker and Law. - The Secret Handshake memorabilia you'd want from this movie. I have a great one for this, but you got it. - Mary's signature golf bag. - Oh. - Warren's earmuffs. - That's really good. - That headphones, right? So-- - The earmuffs too. - The Red Earmuffs, yeah. - This is what Peter said about the hair gel. Somebody hired a guy to make different loads. He showed up with a leather briefcase, like a business bid that had 30 or 40 loads at it. We called Ben over and would hold one up at a time like an earring. People would say no too small, kind of lumpy. That's how we decided afterwards, we never saw the crew member again. He shed his briefcase and left. We were laughing like, who is that guy and how does he have that job? I'd want the briefcase. - The briefcase full of loads. - You want the loads in the briefcase? - I want the whole package. (laughing) I want everything. They probably, like, calcified since 1998. - What's some everyday use for the loads for you? What do you-- - People come over and they say, hey, do you like something about Mary? Have you seen my load case? Flood gun dolly butter mass, lollipops of my mouth of word for something I just enjoy. A load case. - I like a movie where everybody has a job, but nobody works. So, like, Cameron Diaz is an orthopedic surgeon, but spends the day hanging out at the driving range. Ben Stiller apparently has just umpteenth amounts of PTO to, like, stock his ex-girlfriend. - Yeah. - I don't want to spend a lot of time working with these guys. - I love when a movie introduces a character who seems completely an incidental and turns out to be the psychopath at the center of the movie. - Yeah. - The wuggy reveal in theaters, or like, this is pretty great. - Double feature? I would go kingpin just to get the fairly brother's uvra. - I said American Pie. It was just. held us down two summers, two julys in a row. - What do you have? - Dumb and dumber. - Okay. - What's just laugh for three and a half hours? Who won the movie? - I know it's the Fairly Brothers, but it's Dylan. Interesting. For this viewing, so there's four candidates for this. And I actually think the answer has been stiller, because he goes from, I didn't know you could be the lead of a comedy to then ripping off 11 straight ears of the comedies, and it's because of this movie. And I don't know if it happens without this movie. - Are you the deciding voter? Do you have a third option? - I think it's Cameron Diaz. - There you go. - I think there's a really good case for both of them. I think Matt Dylan's the funniest part of the movie. I think Ben Stiller goes on to the greatest amount of success in the movie. But it's Cameron Diaz on the poster. It's Cameron Diaz's movie. Her character's name in the title. This is the thing that catapultzer-- - I thought about her, but I feel like she's, she's gonna win the next 15 years anyway. - I'll tell you what else I was thinking about. - I don't know if Ben Stiller wins the next 15 years. - She never been nominated for an Oscar, you know, not really remembered-- - She's never done an Oscar beat. - Yeah, Gangs of New York and Bing John Malkovich. She was nominated for a Globe for Bing John Malkovich. And she's been nominated for awards before, but never quite a guy to that melancholy-- - The interference thing felt like that was bad for a little bit. - Yeah, that was a shot. What was the air in a Ferris thing? - In Lawson translation. - Oh, yeah. - She got a Globe nom for something by marriage. - For this, yeah. - And now it's time we go to Craig for his take on the movie. - We didn't decide who won the movie. - Who did you think won the movie? - I think in the moment-- - In the moment, it's Cameron Diaz, but I think if you watch the movie now, it's Matt Dillon. Because going back, you're just so surprised at how funny he is, and I can't believe that he didn't go on to do more comedy. - Well, this is like, this is a little apex mountaine because it's like, who won the movie is different than who won the movie? - Right. - I think there's the best part of the movie and the person who benefited most from the movie. - Which I think-- - I think it's Ben Stiller. - It's stiller. - Well, when you walked out of the movie in 1998, probably Diaz, being like, wow, who is that? - Yeah. - Well, also the fairly brothers I would have been like, give me season tickets now, I'm with you guys. - Where do you stand on the like, the run after this? Me, myself and Irene, shallow howl, hall pass, all those movies? - I didn't like shallow howl. I did not like, what was the other one? - Me, myself and Irene. - No, me, myself and Irene, those characters, peak, like that was worth saying, was fun. - shallow howl and stuck on you. I wanted to like, stuck on you, it just didn't work. - Yeah. - It's not great. - It just didn't happen and then fever pitches in the front. - That's the like fever pitch. - You do. - Yeah. - That's fun. - Oh, you can do it. - Craig, what was your take? - I love this movie. The script is just really impressive. Like, the amount of callbacks that they're able to weave back into the story, like, there is no stone left unturned. It's really impressive. Like, every little mention, her having an ex-boyfriend named Brett, everything ties up in a really impressive way. It's just a great set piece comedy. And I think, I think there was a sweet spot for set piece comedies and I think CGI kind of ruined them, where I think when you have to live in like the reality of what you're literally physically able to do while shooting a movie, I think set pieces were just way funnier because it was like real humans doing real stuff. And this is like a perfect sweet spot with that. And then what you get got past certain, like, 2010s, there was like way more CGI and things in the humor to me felt more like artificial. - Yeah, when Warren beats up Ted. - It's real. - It would be so fake now. - Yes, yeah. - And I think there's like- - It still looks like he took those bumps. - But they would do it the way they do like those fake, like those John Wick movies, like Bobo and Kirk action movies where it's like, oh, like flying through the window. - Because they always think bigger is better and then with CGI, you can go huge, but I actually think it takes away some of the humanity of it. And so this movie is within like a 10, 15 year sweet spot of all the set piece comedies. - It might be. - I forgot to mention, I like when they try on the outfits and Warren's dressed as like a cowboy and then Ben Stowe comes out with a pink superhero outfit. - Also a driving range on the waters, like the coolest thing ever seen in my life. And how many of these are for the body of water? - Why isn't there one of those in LA? - I bet there is somewhere in the valley. - So then I see the idea that you've got a underwater ball scooper. - I guess. - It would only improve the water right now. - Or just a guy in a boat out there just like there is, you know. - C.R. Phil. - It was a pleasure. - It was a pleasure, yeah. - I'm sorry, you didn't like my idea of having the suitcase of all the stunt come like this. - I just wanted to know what you were going to do with it. Like I think it would be, if you did a series of-- - You look at it if I had it in the house. - I would check it out. - I would be like, how can we ruin Ben's night with this? - I love that they made 30 of them. I'm just so fascinated by this. - I'd be good Halloween handing those out. - Do you think the guy who made the loads has like had a good job? Do you think he is-- - I think he said he was in props. But now I think probably about 2007 probably moved back to where I really came from. It was like I'm moving back to New Jersey. - Yeah. - Like into his mom's house. - Yeah, I don't, I just don't think I really probably would come here as loads. - Yeah, like it was a correct point CGI came in. - Yeah, yeah. - You might say he was load bearing. - Sean, new newsletter. - Yeah, hey, hey. - Hey, projections. - Yeah, that's it. - They do like a paragraph, but there's something about Mary. - Oh, it would be nice. - I would love to promote this fine podcast. - Let's be space. - Anything you can do to help us out, that would be great. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I got a couple of numbers out, thanks for your help. - Thanks to Craig Grobeck as well. Thanks to Gahau and Eduardo as well. Thanks to Lewis K for hanging out me for the first time in two years. - I was big of him. - Yeah, that was nice to him. And we'll see you, we're doing all comedies this month. So we'll see you, I'm not sure what the comedies are gonna be next week, but we'll see you next week. (upbeat music)