The WORST (& best) Dating Advice EVER | Hey Tablo Ep. 9
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The discussion centers on dating dynamics, trust, and authenticity. A key concern is a man who, after a first date, asks for half payment despite paying the entire bill, and fails to check in on the woman’s safety—actions seen as inconsiderate and emotionally detached. His casual admission of financial scarcity ("I'm not made of money") is criticized as overly calculated and disrespectful. Similarly, another man’s jealousy over a woman’s high number of app matches is dismissed as irrational, emphasizing that relationship value shouldn’t be measured by digital metrics. The advice to be "normal" or "not creepy" is viewed as vague, while more meaningful guidance includes honesty about personal needs—like allergies or dietary restrictions—showing genuine connection. The core message is that healthy dating should feel effortless and warm, rooted in mutual interest and emotional comfort. True attraction is shown through prompt communication, shared presence, and willingness to be vulnerable. Relationships require effort and shared growth, not perfection or performance. Ultimately, safety and authenticity are paramount, and while dating apps offer connections, they shouldn’t replace real emotional engagement. The conclusion emphasizes that relationships, like personal passions, demand hard work and resilience, and the most meaningful connections are built on mutual care, not numbers or appearances.
Today, we're back on Reddit, you know, the place where I was doing an AMA, but I got blocked on my own AMA.
Today, we're looking at dating advice.
The first one, uh, starts off strong.
He wants to split the bill the day after.
Do I even need to read this?
*laughs*
Hey, Tableau.
*laughs*
Yesterday, I, 24, female, went on a date with a guy, 25 male.
He initiated the date, and he made the plans to go to a restaurant after he got home from work.
Uh, when we got there, he insisted that we should start off with some cocktails before we order food and drinks.
So we did.
We had a nice time, and we talked a lot.
He paid the bill, and he followed me to the train station.
I traveled about two hours in total to meet him.
I kept thinking about him paying for everything, and I told myself that if we go on a second date,
I will pay for everything to make up for it, and we would be even.
I sent him a text this morning, and thanked him for last night, and he sent a similar text back.
Not until then, did he ask me if I got home okay?
And I told him that I did.
After that, I get a message from him where he asks if I could pay for my half of the dinner.
Since it got more expensive than he originally thought, and that he,
and I quote, is not made of money.
So he, uh, this guy legit texted, I'm not made of money, you know.
He's, here's the thing I will pay for my half.
But I also said that I would have preferred to have this discussion beforehand,
since I would have been fine with splitting the bill then and there.
But what also bugs me is that I'm the one who traveled there by train,
and he made all of the plans, and he's the one that asked me out.
Honestly, I got a nick.
What do you guys think?
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Wow, we're to even begin.
I think the problem isn't that he asked for half the money.
I think the first problem is that he didn't ask you if you got home okay.
I think that's kind of crazy.
If it was me, I like, when I say goodbye, I will, I will say when you get home,
please text me that you got home safely so that I know you're safe.
Either that or I will, I will like take you home or go with you, right?
But if it's a two hour train ride, I can understand that he didn't go with you.
And it's a first date.
So you, you, you probably don't even want him to go with you.
But I'm, I'm just saying, it just seems normal to, to be like, you know,
text me when you get home.
I think that's the first problem.
Second problem is the, I'm not made of money.
Like he, he, like literally, literally wrote it and didn't delete it.
And he could have, he could have not sent it, but he still sent it, which is crazy.
Like, I'm not made of money.
It's fucking crazy to say.
After the first date, I'm reminded of a time.
It's totally unrelated and maybe not the same situation.
But I once ate out with my friends during college.
And there was this one guy that came out with us for the first time.
Like he wasn't a part of our regular group.
And we went to get like buffalo wings and like potato skins and stuff.
And we, you know, we had a few beers and we had a good time.
And then it was time to pay.
And, you know, we were like, we were students.
So let's split the bill, right?
And we're doing it and he was like, you know, I didn't eat as many potato skins as you guys.
Right?
And at first, I laughed out loud because I was like, okay, it's obviously a joke, right?
He's just fucking around.
But he was like dead serious.
And he, he started like calculating.
And mind you, we didn't have like smartphones at the time.
So we didn't even have a calculator.
So he was just like calculating and we're at Stanford.
He probably calculates a lot of things.
So he was like, technically, I should be paying this much less than you guys.
Because you guys ate this much and I didn't.
Oh, okay, while I understand,
we never hung out with him again.
Let me just say, it's fucking motherfucker.
Then he'd more skins, then he'd more, okay?
Or don't come with us.
This motherfucker was probably calculating as we were eating.
What a, what a friend.
Anyways, I'm reminded of that.
At the time, we were also not made of money.
We were made of other things that had nothing to do with money.
And, you know, if he planned on going on a second date,
I don't think he would have made any of these mistakes.
Or he's just an asshole.
Let me look at some of the comments.
And then the man says, don't pay him.
You traveled.
He said he'd pay.
He wants money for one of two reasons.
He's not interested.
He didn't get.
He didn't get it.
Okay, I think this is the one situation where it's okay to be
as calculating as that guy who came out with us to eat potato skins.
You should include the cost of the train ride.
And then also like, you know, just getting ready.
Everything that was involved in this night.
And then include it with the bill.
And then, and then split.
Like, if you got new shoes or like new makeup for this,
just include it all.
And then split the bill and then see what he says.
I would block him.
He shouldn't set up dates.
He can't afford.
That's just crazy.
Another person, as a man, this is a major red flag.
I'm personally someone who always paid for meals when I invited someone on a date.
I'm now happily married.
But I also understand not everyone can afford to do this.
So I'm super okay with the concept of splitting bills on dates.
Yeah, me too.
That shouldn't even seem weird to split a bill, right?
And like I was saying with my friends,
and that guy who, you know, was like a fucking math genius,
the beautiful mind right there, he's going well hunting.
Probably won the field's medal like a few years later.
Okay, so he's a mathematician.
And I was totally okay with splitting the bill.
And that's what we all did.
In Korea, we say touch pay.
And that's what friends do.
And, you know, on dates, it's totally normal.
But to hit you like a day later, it's kind of crazy.
And then the commentary continues.
This feels weird like a beta switch.
Like he hoped by paying you, you may reward him.
And when you didn't, he decided to split it, which is super gross.
Major red flag in my mind.
We can never know if that was this guy's intention.
Or like, you know, even if we don't go that far, though, it's red flags.
You don't want to be with somebody like that.
So, fuck him.
I accidentally saw my date's hinge notification count.
Hinge is a. How many dating apps are there?
There's Tinder, Hinge.
There's like a bunch of. Hinge is a new one.
Is it newer than Tinder?
Yeah, I feel the same.
Okay, are you guys on it?
Yes.
Okay.
I, 28, male, went out with a woman last night.
It'd be funny if this was the train guy.
We had been chatting for only a couple of days.
But it felt like we were a good match.
After we sat down by our table,
we found a board game she's familiar with.
But she had to look up the rules,
because it had been a while since she played it.
And apparently the rule book wasn't in the box.
Man, we need to talk about the grammar on Reddit.
I know, I know it's not like the New York Times
or like the Encyclopedia of Britannica.
But come on.
As she takes her phone out and unlocks it,
okay, we're in present tense now.
I noticed at first she was on her Hinge app,
which I thought made sense as she had been writing to me just before she arrived.
Okay, so they met through Hinge, right?
But then she closes it and I notice a big red mark on the app icon.
It's like a notice, right?
She sat on the opposite side, but regardless,
I could still recognize the numbers were upside down.
15, 51, 150 plus.
Do you get these requests when someone likes someone wants a date with you?
Okay, so there's like 150 plus notifications.
We sat there for three hours and enjoyed the game
while talking and drinking, but obviously I could not stop thinking about what I saw.
Let me be clearer that it's not my business if she chats with others while she is chatting with me.
But what was eating me up inside was just the comparison to my own experience,
which is the worst thing I can do. I only get around one match between a month or two.
I've always been aware of the discussions regarding the dating ratio between men and women
that women can, to a certain extent, get more matches on apps by default.
And I know the majority of users on apps are male.
But after seeing something I shouldn't have, I honestly don't know how to feel.
After three hours, we stopped for tonight, gave each other a hug and went both our ways.
I think we both had fun, but in the end, it didn't feel like there was a spark,
which is fine. I've been on these apps for around 80 years now.
I always enjoy meeting someone new, but it's me.
making me reconsider if I should delete these apps for good.
If something like this is really eating me up inside.
Wait, what the fuck is eating this guy up inside?
He's jealous that he doesn't have as many notice.
What?
(laughing)
I thought this was gonna be like,
he's upset that she's, you know,
she's on the app talking to other people during the day.
But he's jealous that he doesn't have 150 plus
people interested.
What kind of a weird mindset?
I mean, okay.
I don't know anything about dating apps.
I come from a time before dating apps.
Like before apps, you know?
So back in our time, when you wanted to date,
like you either got introduced,
or like you had to just like serendipity.
Had to happen by chance.
Like you had to like, you had to go to a lot of places.
Like go to school, go to college.
Like you have to like, go get a job somewhere.
You have to like go to a bakery.
You have to go to like a bookstore
pretend to read a little bit.
Like you have to do something
because you needed to throw yourself in the eye of like
serendipity so that like Cupid can, his arrow can like,
you know, get to you.
So I don't know about like dating by Algo.
I don't know anything about that.
But like the fact that this guy is jealous
about the number of notifications seems crazy.
If I was in this situation,
I was like, she has 150 plus notifications.
I'd be like, but yet she chose to have this date with me.
You know, yes, she's here.
She could have been with 150 other people
or 150 other situations and locations.
But instead she chose to spend this time with me, right?
But instead this guy is jealous.
Well, I don't mean to be like shitting on this guy
that wrote this post, but like if that's actually the issue
that being jealous, I'm sure like he also is kind of jealous
of like people to have more followers
or get more views on whatever they post, get more likes.
And I think it's just, see technology is the problem.
Let me reiterate, like back in the day before apps,
before dating apps, like we just simply did not know
how unpopular we were.
You know what I mean?
Like we had no way to compare.
We only knew our situation.
We only knew that we were solo,
that we didn't have a date, that we weren't liked.
We didn't know how much the other guy was liked.
The closest thing would be like some popular guy
at the same school, who is obviously more popular than me.
But other than that, there was no way to really compare.
So even though we, you know, I was unloved
for most of my life, I didn't really have an issue with it.
There was nothing for me to compare myself with.
So I think these apps are the problem.
And social media popularity is just social media popularity.
It's just numbers.
It's not actual influence.
It's not actual impact.
It's just a number.
Some of the most loved people don't even have social media at all.
Maybe I should delete all my socials.
You know, certain actors and certain musicians,
they don't have social media.
Like, I believe Kendrick doesn't really do social media.
Jake Hall doesn't, maybe.
Nah.
(laughing)
I need to promote this podcast.
Okay, let's look at this one.
Men use perfume.
Trust me.
Hey guys, I just wanted to share something
I found out recently.
I bought some coffee smelling perfume recently.
It's just 'cause I was sick and tired
of smelling like one of these things.
Nothing, body order or three, some strange man body spray.
I have never gotten so many positive comments
on dates about how good I smell.
From both men and women.
And it wasn't even expensive.
A big bottle was like 20 bucks or something.
It's gonna last me like the whole year at least.
People don't usually want you to smell
like those crappy man smells.
Like I literally had a bottle called army scent.
That stuff did not make me smell like a damn coffee shop
or a flower or a cupcake or anything good.
It made me smell like badly masked sweat.
Oh, and dude, women's deodorant
instantly solve my nasty odor that appears
after like two hours of wearing high strength men's deodorant.
And their secret brand of women's deodorant
actually lasts the whole day.
I still get sweat stains on my shirts,
but damn, it doesn't actually smell.
(laughing)
Tail DR, smell like something sweet or nice.
You will instantly realize the difference on dates.
I promise you.
First of all, I wanna give this guy like a like for enthusiasm.
(laughing)
This was the most enthusiastic host I've seen like ever.
- You wanna give it up vote?
- Yeah, yeah, up vote.
That's what they're called.
Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Mr. Reddit.
(laughing)
I'm sorry, wow, you're very sensitive about that.
Well, I think he's on to something.
When I buy like shampoo or any product,
any like cosmetic product,
I will deliberately never buy the men's version.
I don't wanna make a blanket statement,
but what I'm saying is guys are probably less likely
to even notice when something is not that great.
And thus, they're not gonna take it back to the store.
You're gonna be like, well, it doesn't smell like shit.
(laughing)
So I guess it's not that bad, right?
But I live with my wife and my daughter.
So I'm the only guy in the house.
And I never really notice when a shampoo isn't that good.
And I'll just be like using the shit out of it
for like a month.
And then one day I'll notice that it's gone.
So I'm like, y'all bull, where's the shampoo?
And she's like, I threw it out 'cause it's fucking terrible.
(laughing)
And I'm like, it was?
(laughing)
I've been using it for a month
and she's like, you're the only one that's been using it.
(laughing)
So I got you a better one.
And it's always better.
(laughing)
So do you know what I mean?
So I will never buy like men's body wash
or like men's whatever.
Anything with men's on it, I will just not buy
because it's like, I'm guessing the companies
don't work on it too hard.
(laughing)
Like they can get away with a little more.
So I will always buy the women's version.
So I agree, probably women's deodorant
is better than men's deodorant.
Because for us, you know, as long as we don't totally smell
like beasts, like literal hell, we're like okay with it.
To the point where like sometimes I'm very sensitive
to smell as well, but you don't want the smell
that drives me the most insane is poorly done laundry
when it's been in the water too long or something
where they took it out too late.
For some reason, always the guy who's wearing it
has no fucking idea.
(laughing)
Right, I'm like, how can you not know?
And we're like in a card together.
Like how can you not know?
And it's sort of like how smokers don't know
how bad like cigarettes smell
because they're so used to it.
It's just like that.
So men, use perfume.
Going on a date with a woman who earns more than five times
my salary, feeling nervous, any advice?
She's a year older, late 30s, than me,
and works as a senior partner
at one of the big management consulting firms.
Probably earning around 400 to 800 K per year.
That's a huge range.
(laughing)
We met at the gym and she was actually the one
who asked me out.
She's pretty too.
Okay.
This person just posted this to brag.
(laughing)
Like what is the fucking question here?
You ask for advice and you're like,
(laughing)
there's no dilemma here.
He's happy as hell.
(laughing)
Here's one.
Why don't you like nice people in dating?
You know the saying nice guys and gals finish last,
but why is this?
From personal experience, I find overly nice people
quite boring and insecure.
Like they have very low self-awareness
and believe abandoning their wants needs
for you will make you love them.
And it's this desperation that is a complete turn off.
They don't care to connect with you,
but to get validation from you.
Almost like a parent to a child.
So if you are a codependent,
people, pleasers with no boundaries do not date.
Build healthy self-esteem.
Not to mention you will also become less vulnerable
to attracting narcissistic abusive types.
Okay.
They ask the question and then end.
concerted. I think we just like use nice people as like an umbrella term for a lot of different
things that are not the same thing. Like people who can't assert themselves, who like
just don't have an opinion, and we call all of that nice when it actually has nothing
to do with like, you know, being ethically nice. Like a person that can't make any decisions,
they want to go on a date. So, oh, sure. Like where would you like to go? And they can't come
up with anything. They can like just decide on a place. That's not nice. That's just not
able to make any, you know, choices. I think we call a lot of things nice instead of what
they actually are. And I do agree about this though. Narcissistic abusive types are, they're
not drawn to quote unquote nice people, but they will recognize when someone is a manipulative
couple. So, if you don't want to be manipulated, don't be nice. And this isn't just for dating.
Like there are a lot of people that are narcissistic and abusive. You know, a lot of parents are
narcissists and we tend to not think of them that way because there are parents and we feel
guilty and bad, but even that guilt that you feel might be something that they're manipulating.
So not just in dating, but don't get manipulated. I don't know if it works the other way around.
But like in my experience, like guys know that it's over when as soon as like the other
person says, oh, you know, you're so nice. Like we know, like we instinctively know we've
been friends-owned. If I think back, like there's always that one friend who comes back
after like a date and we're like, so how did it go? She said, I'm like really nice and
we're like, oh, you're fucked. It's over. Doesn't work the other way around too. Like if
a guy says to you, like, oh, you're so nice, you have integrity. You're earnest. Okay.
Guys don't use earnest. Man, just reading about dating is stressing me out. I'm so happy.
I don't have to date anymore. I am actually losing my voice right now. I have never been
more drained of energy than I have been now. Like this dating advice Reddit is crazy. It's
like I just went on a bunch of bad dates. This vicarious like fucking pain. Oh, so here's
one. Had a date last night. It went really, really well. However, she believes their earth
is flat unironically. She also believes the universe is geocentric and that the sun and
moon are the same size. Dating has been terrible for me recently. I know how hard it can
be to find someone you get along well with. So where do I go from here? Okay, let's look
at the comments first. Decide if you're okay with that level of intelligence. Run! But watch
out that you don't fall off the edge of earth. Come on, my dude. She believes their earth
is flat. You believe the date went well. You are made for each other. By the way, the
person who posted this four years ago deleted their account. So they either were embarrassed
by this or they fell off the earth. They got to the end of it. How does the OP know that
this person unironically believes their earth is flat? Like, maybe it's a joke. I mean,
I have some conspiracy theories as well. But like, you know, like believing in aliens wouldn't
be that crazy, right? It's just, you know, whatever you do, you do or you don't. It's not like
a deal breaker. But has anyone here met anyone that had like some wild beliefs? Rosemary's
been strangely quiet. I mean, it's okay if you believe the earth is flat, like it's fine.
We don't care. Is this about you? A lot of conspiracy theories are just conspiracy theories
until they're proven true. And many have been proven true. So, you know, I don't just look
at a conspiracy theory and say like, this is bullshit. Because what's more likely? Everything
in the world is happening as it should and in a righteous way without any manipulation,
whatsoever. Or people with power and authority and the resources to do so is manipulating our
perspective and our, you know, perception of what is real and what is good and what is
decent. Like, what is more likely? Obviously, the latter. So, I get people having some
conspiracy theories, but some things, I mean, like the sun and the moon being the same
size is just insane. So, until, because have we actually ever gone to the sun or the moon?
We just had an uptick in subscribers. Not the crowd I was looking for, but we'll take
whoever comes. Welcome to Hey Tableau. Please hit the hype button. Gentlemen, lower your
bar for how awesome you have to be when you talk to women. They are more than happy to
interact with a guy who is just a cool chill dude they can have a decent conversation
with. If you pressure yourself too much, you will pressure her as well. You don't need
to be James Bond. Oftentimes, she is happy if she simply interacts with a guy who isn't
creepy. Take some of that pressure off yourself. Aim to be a normal guy who is genuinely interested
in curious about her. Okay, this is terrible advice. Let me say why this is terrible advice
because you're telling someone to be genuinely normal. If anybody needs to be told to be
normal, to be genuinely not a creep. Like, what do you mean? I'd be happy to give you
something more to. If they need tips on how not to be creepy, it's over. It's a lost cause.
But also someone who acts like super awesome is really annoying. And this isn't just
endating. Like, it's just in friend groups. Having somebody that just needs to be fucking
amazing all the time. Like, I went to, you know, I'm flying to the moon soon. Like, you
know, but okay, that's joke. But you know what I mean? Like, someone who's always talking
about like some awesome, like unbelievable like thing that they are doing or working on
or it's just exhausting. We're just gathered here to have some Buffalo wings and potato
wings. If they're lactose intolerant and they get
dairy with you, they really like you. Coming from a man who is extremely lactose intolerant
and she wanted to get mozzarella sticks. Did you tell her that you're lactose intolerant?
Did you tell her? You know, you, you can tell her. And if she understands and doesn't
get the mozzarella sticks, then she likes you. Because even if she really wanted mozzarella
sticks and you guys, you know, went there and then you're like, actually, I'm lactose intolerant.
So I can't eat this with you. And she's like, oh, that's fine. We can go get something
you want. I mean, why would you, why would you do this? If you're allergic to seafood
or shrimp, please tell them instead of eating the shrimp. And then your, your hands are
like huge. And then they have to like take you to a hospital, date is ruined. And then
they feel guilty. Just tell them, you don't have to prove your worth by hiding the fact
that you're allergic to something or that you're not comfortable with something. Tell
them. Please. Did you do something similar on your first date with your wife? Well, no.
Because that's not that that got taken out of context. Because I had decided to maybe
try being a vegetarian right before I met her. And I had maybe spent like, you know, maybe
like two days not eating meat. So I wasn't even fully a vegetarian. And then I met her.
And I was like, how do I tell her that I'm, I'm trying this new thing. And she ordered
me. So I was like, whatever. And I, I eat so much meat. Weed meat together. That's not
the same thing. Okay. If I was allergic to meat, I would,
of course I would have told her. If any girl gets dairy with me, she better be ready for
some fucking nuclear farts.
If she's okay with the fucking nuclear farts, then she likes you.
Oh my god.
Some of those dairy farts do be like hitting hard though.
Every farts are crazy.
This can be the answer to everything.
Like if anybody asks me for advice on anything, I'm going to be like, she called me a nice
guy.
Is that a bad thing?
Well, if she, if she's okay with a nice guy, she better be ready for some fucking
nuclear farts, just excellence.
I am a fan of the perfect sentence and he came close, he went, he went, F Scott fits
Gerald on that shit.
He didn't just say, she better be ready for some farts.
She better be ready for some fucking farts.
He was like, she better be ready for some fucking all caps, nuclear farts, okay?
I love when someone has an amazing command of the English language, they don't waste a
single like space.
It's perfect words together.
Oh my god.
May I ask a question?
What is a situation ship exactly?
Is it like some or is it like a negative thing where like it's clearly a relationship
but one of you won't admit it?
I think an English ship has more of a negative connotation.
Okay.
It's a good thing.
Some is a good thing.
It's like, it's building up to a relationship, right?
And I guess a situation ship is like, someone's not committing.
Oh, okay.
That's, that's interesting that it's a, it's actually the same thing but look at in a glass
half full kind of half empty kind of way, right?
Okay.
Situation ships must be annoying, just, I don't know, just break it up.
If I think back, if someone was in a relationship with me but they weren't fully committing
the way I'm fully committing, they better be ready for some fucking nuclear farts.
Oh man.
You know, my daughter's listening to this right now and probably some of her friends.
There's just like, what the fuck is wrong with your dad?
I can't swipe past my ex.
Every night I swiped through dating apps.
We met on Bumble, but she unmatched me from after she ended things.
But then yesterday I came across her on Hinge and I couldn't ex her.
Well, people are busy.
Multiple apps.
Well, I know I shouldn't message her or like her, but I can't pass on her either.
It's weird.
Is Reddit supposed to be used like a journal?
Because this is clearly someone's journal entry and I don't feel comfortable reading
it.
I feel like I'm, you know, I'm invading someone's privacy.
Have you guys ever had like a crazy ex?
Were you ever the crazy ex?
It was really just a lot of gas lighting and narcissistic tendencies.
We can't say gas lighting today.
It means something else now, okay?
He said something really stupid to me at one point.
He says, I'm a narcissist, but in the original form of the word, he once said like he would
like sleep with himself if he could, like he was really bad.
What the fuck is he talking about?
He's been sleeping with himself every day of his life.
I sleep with myself every day.
I wake up with myself.
I shower with myself and I fucking nuclear fart with myself.
Again, fart saved the day every single time.
When someone really likes you, it's effortless.
Just keep this in mind.
So I'm guessing if they really like you, they text you right away or soon after, they
will be excited to make plans to meet you.
They'll flirt.
Did I say it felt fart?
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I just mixed flirt and fart.
I was like, they'll flirt.
Flarts should be a word when someone farts to flirt with you.
When someone farts in a cute way, when you're in a relationship, sort of like at the onset
of a relationship and you're not close yet.
You don't know if this is risky, but you let a small one go to show intimacy, to show
that you are closer now.
And it's sort of flirting, so that's a flirt.
It's a fart used to flirt, to signal that you want to be closer to this person and be
more comfortable with them.
It's called a flirt.
That's perfect.
Wait, does that even exist for a flirt?
It doesn't exist.
We actually coined a term on Hey Tableau, the flirt.
When you let out a cute fart, to get closer to someone, to indicate that you like them,
flirt.
I don't recommend it.
Yeah, it's very risky.
It's very risky.
It's like a shard.
Yeah, it's always risky.
Anyway, it's back to this beautiful post, they'll flirt and ask you questions, they'll
seem interested in your life.
What they won't do is be unsure whether they're free, leave you on red, or wait hours to reply,
not ask questions, and give you short replies.
Dating should be fun, and with the right person it is, if you find it hard work talking
to them, and they're always busy, move on, you deserve better.
Okay.
Well, first of all, we don't know that the you here deserves better.
Let's just get that out of the way, because we don't know if someone deserves better.
None of us know.
We don't know who that person is.
I don't really like this phrase, to be honest.
We say it a lot, we say it to friends, right?
I've said countless times to friends, you deserve better.
But did I really mean it?
Almost never.
Anyways, this is true though.
If you're trying to figure out whether or not someone really likes you, that in itself
might be a problem.
It shouldn't be that hard, like you should just know.
And quite often people need to ask this question to themselves as well.
They're so fixated on whether the other person likes them, or likes me, that they don't
ask the more important question, the first question they need to ask, do I really like
this person?
And I've seen many cases where someone complains about their significant other, or the
person they're dating, and when I'm listening, I see them as the actual problem, right?
Like you don't even really treat this person well.
Why do you expect them to?
Like you don't even seem to be like genuinely into this person.
Why do you don't want them to be like, you know, in love with you?
That just makes no sense.
So ask yourself if it's effortless for you to be good to this person and to be genuine
to this person.
Then, you know, worry about the next step, which is them reciprocating the interest.
Some of these comments are great.
No one is busier than someone who is not interested in you.
But what if they're really busy?
Like, what if they work at like, I don't know, NASA?
They might be very busy.
Let's look at some of these other comments.
Oh, this I agree with.
Something should be effortless, yes, but a successful long-term relationship will have
its inevitable tribulations.
Yes, dating should feel effortless, but a relationship can't be effortless.
You have to put it in work.
I see a lot of people, you know, being burned out of long relationships because they find
it hard work relative to what it felt like at the beginning.
And then they'll keep comparing themselves to themselves and fall out of love.
But as somebody who's been married for like ages now, I can honestly say it's supposed
to be hard work.
Like just think of it that way.
That it's not just hard work for you or your partner, it's supposed to be hard work
for two people that were strangers to come together and share a space and share a world
and share views, and share a future share crew.
creating a child, share, creating memories together,
this is all things that require hard work
when you do them on your own.
Like, is there a single dream that you've accomplished
and turned into reality without work?
Is there a single aspiration you had
that just suddenly materialized into like absolute reality
just by, you know, going to bed and waking up?
No, it's, it all requires daily effort
and sometimes you fall, sometimes you feel like it's not worth it,
sometimes you feel like you're not worthy sometimes,
you feel like this is just all pointless
and you hate yourself, you hate your partner.
This is all part of it.
It's just think of it as something that's supposed to be hard
and as long as you keep that in mind,
you will find moments to be grateful for and to enjoy
because even when you have a dream on your own,
even when you have aspirations on your own
and let's say like you want to be a world class athlete,
the amount of work that goes into that,
like we never see on TV.
We only see the person crossing the finish line.
We don't see the hours and days and months
and years of hard work they put in
when everyone else is sleeping, they'll wake up
at like four in the morning and just fucking run,
like miles and miles just to have that one shot, right?
So all of those people, when they're doing it on their own,
they know that it's supposed to be hard.
You know like musicians or artists or like athletes,
when you ask them what they look back at
with like loving memory or, you know,
the time in their life that they miss the most,
a lot of them will mention their come up.
Like they miss the first, like the early days
when they were making their first album.
The moments where they had to like,
you know, take the subway to the studio and like,
record really fast and leave
because you know, the longer time you spend there,
the more you have to pay.
And just like the times that you were with your like,
bandmates just eating one cup noodle together
and that's all you could eat that day.
So like, you know, you're like fighting over
who gets the last bite of something.
And just, those become beautiful memories.
So I believe, you know, there's no reason
that relationships are indifferent.
If you, if you just keep in mind that it's supposed
to be hard and you stick through it together,
those will be the days you also miss the most
because maybe that's where love happens.
Like that's when love actually happens.
This is a great post to be ending on.
And I'm not gonna mention anything else we talked about
or the words we coined, because I want to end
on that beautiful note, it's supposed to be hard.
I hope everybody meets someone that's good for them.
They don't have to be destined for you.
I just, someone that's good for them.
Regardless of how you date, like if you use an app,
if you, you know, get intro to someone,
I don't know how, you know, the young people do it these days,
but stay safe is all I gotta say.
Always double check, never just believe what anyone says.
Be very, very, very, very, very careful.
Please, it's a crazy fucking world.
And I want everyone to just, it doesn't matter
if you stay unloved, but it does matter
if you stay unsafe in any way.
So, fighting.
- Hit Tableau.
(laughing)
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The man who proposed splitting the bill after a first date failed to check in on the woman’s safety, which is a major red flag for trust and care.
His statement "I'm not made of money" is seen as overly calculated and disrespectful, especially after a date where he paid entirely, undermining genuine connection.
Splitting bills on a first date is normal and fair, but the timing—days later—feels manipulative and suggests a lack of emotional investment.
The man who showed jealousy over a woman’s 150+ app notifications is criticized for being emotionally reactive, highlighting how dating app metrics distort genuine connection.
The advice to "be normal" or "not be creepy" is dismissed as vague and unhelpful, when instead, authenticity and openness about personal needs (like allergies) matter more.
Relationships should feel effortless in their warmth and ease, not be pressured by overthinking or insecurity.
Real attraction is evident in immediate interest, active communication, and emotional availability—not in calculated financial or social comparisons.
Dating should be a shared journey requiring effort, not a passive game of numbers or appearances.
Summary:
The discussion centers on dating dynamics, trust, and authenticity. A key concern is a man who, after a first date, asks for half payment despite paying the entire bill, and fails to check in on the woman’s safety—actions seen as inconsiderate and emotionally detached. His casual admission of financial scarcity ("I'm not made of money") is criticized as overly calculated and disrespectful.
Similarly, another man’s jealousy over a woman’s high number of app matches is dismissed as irrational, emphasizing that relationship value shouldn’t be measured by digital metrics. The advice to be "normal" or "not creepy" is viewed as vague, while more meaningful guidance includes honesty about personal needs—like allergies or dietary restrictions—showing genuine connection. The core message is that healthy dating should feel effortless and warm, rooted in mutual interest and emotional comfort.
True attraction is shown through prompt communication, shared presence, and willingness to be vulnerable. Relationships require effort and shared growth, not perfection or performance. Ultimately, safety and authenticity are paramount, and while dating apps offer connections, they shouldn’t replace real emotional engagement.
The conclusion emphasizes that relationships, like personal passions, demand hard work and resilience, and the most meaningful connections are built on mutual care, not numbers or appearances.
FAQs
Splitting the bill on a first date can be normal, but it's concerning if it happens only after the date and without prior discussion. It may signal a lack of interest or poor communication, especially if the person didn't check in on your safety or made a dismissive comment like 'I'm not made of money.'
Saying 'I'm not made of money' is a red flag. It can come across as immature, dismissive, or even manipulative. It suggests a lack of respect for shared responsibility and may indicate the person is not emotionally or financially invested in the relationship.
Yes, you should consider including your travel expenses when splitting costs. Since you traveled two hours by train, it's fair to include that cost in the overall budget. This shows respect for your effort and helps avoid feeling financially exploited.
No, it's not okay. Being jealous of someone's app notifications shows insecurity and a lack of trust. The fact that someone chose to date you over 150 others proves genuine interest, not a lack of popularity.
Many users report that women's deodorants and body products tend to be more effective and pleasant-smelling. Men's products are often less refined, and users note better performance and satisfaction with women’s versions.
Yes, being overly nice or submissive can be a red flag. It may indicate low self-esteem, lack of boundaries, or a desire for validation. Healthy relationships require mutual respect, confidence, and emotional honesty.
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