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you're back I don't do that don't cross the pond you and Dua Lipa met up on vacation I've been I've been traveling in it I have something do you know when you hear something and it's like oh that's added to the bible that is a sentence that is beyond my wildest imagination I'm so confused where you're gonna go with this but go there is it not clocking me that I'm standing on business right now I knew you were gonna bring that into the space I knew you were gonna bring him into the space if you've not seen Justin Bieber and it's sad because I he genuinely does seem upset yeah by a paparazzi he's like on the beach I guess with his family and he's like I'm a real man like the photographers like provoking me um all of this stuff and then he looks at this photographer and says it's not clocking you that I'm standing on business right now can I say something brave and radical and real something I always do that he was right to say it not only Hunter I didn't see the issue at first I was seeing it all over Twitter being like and period and he ate that I was like and I understand exactly what he means there's something so like Canadian about misusing like AAVE like there's something so like and that's my black king yeah I said let him go for it I don't mind it's not clocking to you that I am standing on business right now which he was oh he very much was and he does um he was like I'm a man I'm a real man I'm a father he's a father figure this is the real I'm gonna shake the table okay Leo DiCaprio would have won an Oscar for playing Justin Bieber and like I don't know whenever he was young like when I saw that I was like oh this is giving like a Martin Scorsese original production like this is real crash out that's what you thought that yeah that was my that was my second thought my first thought was amazing amazing work amazing use of the English language second thought was uh if only my first thought yes take it king my second my third thought was I would my third thought was let's get him into a rehab Hunter well I know I I say that I'm very concerned for his well-being but he did but he did eat that one that one and many things he's been eating a lot of stuff he's been nibbling a lot of stuff when he told that like yeah there's like a viral whatever post about a grandfather texting their grandchild saying like I'm really worried about Justin Bieber and like he commented worry about yourself Gramps wow I'm the Gramps in question so I don't even care what's been you're giving you're giving bisexuality right now don't the LA hat and the New York I voted sticker period and that's on being by coastal elite oh they hate when I say it uh you know I gotta represent for both you know I know it's pride but um I'm gonna do something I'm gonna stand behind two men right now proudly and bravely two again pride also belong to men not always okay so go ahead let that sit in the air who are the two men the two men first Zoran yeah I'm an early voter go ahead and get a little can you hear that it's fully completely blocked by the microphone by the way oh it's above I'm literally like wearing this jacket it's too hot for this right now I need to take it off immediately after but I shout out to early voting shout out to Zoran Mondondi please do not rank Cuomo is all I ask it's not that kind of podcast but it is going to be today um so I'm standing on speaking of this podcast I'm going to go standing on business you guys aren't talking that I'm standing on business me in my early voting polling site putting it in uh and the other man I'm standing behind have you heard of a little a little boy named uh a little white chocolate if you will named Tyler from the carnival cruise are you on that side of my god are you on swirl talk have I unfortunately yes I'm on swirl talk um not by choice okay against my will I've but yes I have seen Tyler singing Keith Sweat on a carnival cruise um multiple people sent this to me and I've seen it from different angles I've seen from every angle I've seen a bird's eye view I have seen every angle I'm actually surprised like the ship itself has not dropped a cut of it so explain explain the clip there is a boy named Tyler a white boy of course who's maybe about he's giving like mid-20s uh there's a karaoke night on a cruise ship because what else do you do on a cruise and he gets up and he sings some nobody by Keith Sweat and let me tell you about this room erupting in a place where there's no one else in the room I was gonna say that's how you know he ate it because one black woman gets up and walks away immediately she's about to do a lap no at first I thought they were in a church I thought they were in a church I was like there's he's just come up to do a little improv and then the funny thing is is not just I know you've never been to church but go on I know improv at church I do stand up at church um you see all these black people like standing this little white boy and then every time it cuts away to a white person they're so confused I said it ain't for y'all this this Tyler is is for me personally I mean because we do have to do something which is acknowledge the fact that I did date a white boy named Tyler yes who also had rhythm and who also did rap and I never stand 10 toes behind him you did it no hmm allyship is dead I see it's pride stay behind me my white man yeah I was gonna say does that is that under the umbrella of pride the rules change every day I know and I make them up every second uh but those are the two the two boys taking it for me the two straight men that I have and I'm like I don't know I don't know I'm and I guess Justin Bieber too maybe there's three straight men that I'm rallying for okay this is an LGBTQ podcast one more time LGBTQ faster LGBTQ you're pretty good actually thank you you've been practicing in the mirror 10 times fast that's how she warms up for the show okay here we go you're long-winded ass um this week we are talking about Love Island USA and Addison Rae's new album and we're joined by Grace Conchment to talk about the FX series Adults so I'm sorry let me let me say this let me say this are you looking for a home for your worst opinion are you a hater first but a lover of pop culture second consider this a glorified group chat but we're not calling you out no no no we're calling you in it's a safe space to talk shit actually but of course from Wondery I'm Payton Dix and I'm Hunter Harris and this is let me say this let me say this let me say go ahead and say with me three two one a hot new bombshell has entered the villa oh we are so back when I tell you I locked into Love Island so hard I'm watching after sun oh I'm watching after sun I've got the time unfortunately you made the time I made the time a different type of time oh well I have been eating tape but I'm still a little bit behind I know which is like that we just we just had like Andrea leaving last year getting yeah that was this version of the most recent episode so like you are in for a fucking treat love I can't wait it's so good but I'm loving these characters it's always hard for me to like restart a new reality season because I'm like I don't know you all I don't know who your parents are I don't know what school you go to I don't know anything about your ass strangers um but no now I'm now I'm like I'm I'm invested yeah I care because I do love I I really love uh Shelly yeah who are your favorites of the cast so far Shelly Alandria um and Sierra period yeah taste Shelly and Shelly is so beautiful I mean I just love her because pretty privilege oh my god face card Alandria too Alandria too yeah yeah um body tea and Sierra is just she's just I love her blush I'm like oh my god you're beautiful with those 3c curls face card body teeth your blush is awesome she's also really pretty I will I will say the men aren't doing it for me like I have no they have no Miguel this season they have no Miguel they have no Rob I'll tell you that what oh and Rob I'm missing him every minute now when I tell you a man is a man is a man I need to look up some Rob Van Cams when I get home um but can I say I do think Ace is very cute yeah he's a demon though duh a short king I said oh something's up with this one he's gonna start some big lips I was like oh he's cute um and okay I'm gonna you're gonna hate me for saying this okay Austin okay reminds me of the old um Timothee Chalamet impressions that that one girl did on SNL I can't remember her name I'm sorry nope when he's like so smiley I'm like oh is it is it your first day outside that's kind of the energy Austin gives first day on earth yeah and apparently votes like it too because he's Maga I'm like oh my god I'm like oh my god I'm like oh my god Maga but um I found that out after the fact that I was like oh my himbo love him but you know who's growing on me who who I was I was like no no no no before Nick who's Nick Nick is the one who's paired up with Sierra and like the little like he's like a nice looking boy brown hair I guess oh but he was missable to me too yes now oh my god I am locked I am loaded swirl Twitter they got me swirl talk I'm in because these little fan cams of him in the laundry he loves himself some Alondria he don't play about Alondria Nick is like that he is coupled up with Sierra but if something happens between the two of them I wouldn't be mad you know why because I'm anti-Taylor I'm anti who's Taylor exactly exactly he's like the country boy oh no I don't like him I don't trust him because it's like how have you guys like not like progressed like they were they started out so strong because they were very much alike both country as hell and yet now it's like she keeps kind of saying to him like we are not moving far enough we're not fast enough but we're not like there's no movement in this relationship at all it's feeling very friends and honestly with no benefits yeah with no benefits but can I say his tattoos oh god the tattoos on this are kind of the funniest thing ape shall not kill ape on your chest on your chest permanently And I'm like, but what point of the apes did you see? And you left thinking like, no, I just want to know which one. Was it the one with James Franco as a scientist? God forbid. Or is it the one, the OG with Mark Wahlberg? Listen, I like that one. It was very good. Peter Jackson. Anyway, how'd you know? Okay, marry, fuck, kill of the heinous tattoos on the violin. Ape shall not kill ape on Taylor's chest. Big ol' ace across Ace's back or the cherubs on Austin's chest. Ape shall not kill ape. It's so fucking funny. Listen, I'm marrying it, I'm fucking it, and I'm killing it. Yeah, what can I say? It takes it all from me. No, the tattoos on this show are so brave and so beautiful. Let's talk about the love triangles. Yes, because God, there are so many. Well, one that we just kind of retired is the first love triangle, which was between my man Nick, Belle-A. That is a ghetto. Bella is how you say it, but yeah. Did Bella's mom slip you a 20 for that? No. I love when white women act ghetto. I don't know if she's white, but she's white passing. But her, and then the new bombshell, but now she's kind of like in the club. Which is Sierra. They were the first love triangle. And that one didn't really shake the table for me because you can always tell that Nick liked Sierra more. But no, no. As someone who watched it literally in the last 20 hours, he was really into Bella. Like he like almost left Sierra and would go make out with Bella and then come back to Sierra. Let me tell you, a man will do that to a tree. I know, but it was like, but Bella was walking in the villa different. She was like, oh, he's coming back. He's coming home. Well, she went home. Yeah, and then she did go home. The second love triangle, which I find much more interesting, is Shelly, Ace, and Austin. Right now, Shelly is paired up with Austin. I think that's her. And Ace loving him some Shelly. Treating her kind of like trash. He makes great reality TV, but he makes clearly a terrible boyfriend. Who was that? Who did he used to be coupled up with? The girl that got kicked off because apparently she said like the N-word four times. He originally coupled up with this girl that got kicked off almost immediately. Like the Dominican girl? Yeah, the really, really tiny one. The one that was like 4'11". Oh, no, I guess I haven't seen her yet. Right now, he's with someone and he's like, he's literally sitting there. It's very Rob Coder. He's sitting there like looking dead straight ahead. And he's like, so what do you call people that you're partnered with? Like, what do you call your exes? And she's like, well, I always call them babe. And he was like, I don't like that. He's like, I don't like that. Don't call me babe. We're not that serious. I've never been like understanding a man so much. He's trying to be like, I don't fuck with you like that. Like, I don't want to be. I don't want to be with you. And she's like, da, da, da, da, da. And everyone else at the table, at the like whatever lunch table is like, I'm seeing a lot of neck popping. And I'm kind of like, I see I'm on the guy's side with this one. Like how, like what else can he possibly do? Because I've already had a big ass tattoo. It's like, I don't want to be with you. Ape is killing ape right now. Ape holding gun to other apes' heads. No, you're talking about Amaya. Yeah. Who is just perfect TV. And also, I'm so afraid of her. I lock my door at night after I watch La Violin because Amaya could come in. Like she. You know me. I don't like people with that kind of energy. It's like, don't text me five times in a row. Like, please just give me an opportunity to miss you. Yeah. You're never sharing your location with an Amaya. I'll tell you that. No. I barely share my location with you. True. Had to really beg for that one. But speaking of sharing location. Ooh, I'm pivoting hard. We got to talk about Huda and Jeremiah. And the reason I bring that up is because in bed, there is a moment where you cut to this specific, harmful couple who like linked and built day one, they were like, we're in love. And Huda in the middle of the night was like, would you share a location with me? You've known this man for less than two weeks. You know, it took me 12 years. What do you want to know from that information? Like, what do you want to see? It's really there. I don't know where you are in their relationship dynamic, but are things starting to fall apart? Yeah. He is like, oh my God. Nick just told him that the guys think that like Huda is not really in to him. Yeah. And then he's like, kind of, it's just so funny. He's like, I don't know what you're talking about. to impress the other men like jeremiah starts crashing out over that based on nothing based on nick barely having even had a conversation with huda um but i'm not i'm just he just seems like dumb i don't seem like the really jeremiah yeah i'm like i know he's like about to start like torturing her and i i'm not looking forward to seeing it i do think the torturing is mutual but there's something really sick and twisted about what's happening with huda and her anxious attachment style and i i pray for them both and i want the best for her and she's a mother and i love that and that scene was unfortunately her trying to mamacita mamacita nick is everything i love him nick also wait we have to talk about how nick who's the best friend of jeremiah he hates to see Huda coming he really he wants to free his man you can tell you know what it's very like early 2000s romantic comedy of like the how like the friend always hates the like jock's girlfriend yeah very that tough he is sick of her and in this most recent episode I'm sorry to semi-spoil it's okay but the boys the boys stand up and they bark back Jeremiah of course quiet his mouth and the boys are standing up being like kick Huda to the curb leave her there wait but why they hate her so much because why because he feels like She's not really into him? No, it's a combination of her and him, I will say. Like, they acknowledge his role in it, too. Just, like, love bombing each other. There's, like, we're two weeks into this. Like, there's no way that, like, this makes sense. And the way she acts, like, there's a challenge. You're on a dating reality TV show where you're half naked all the time. Like, people are going to kiss other people, babe. I don't know how to tell you that. And, like, when she, when he has, like, a flirty kiss or even gets pulled aside for a chat, She will like immediately walk over or immediately be like, you better not, you better cut it out right now. Just know that I'm watching. And then try to like, to the girls later, be like, oh, I don't even care. Oh, I have noticed that about her, that she will be like, you could have made out with him. I wouldn't care. But if you do care, then just say, like, just say Beyonce live version. I care. Yeah. You know what she's not doing? She's not standing on business. I'll tell you that. And I'm clocking that TV. You see each other. She is a really, really unfortunate, like scary person to me. And people are always like, oh, Jeremiah just wants to be famous. And I'm like, listen, Shemar Moore is there just the same as everybody else. They're hot 20-year-olds on a TV show. Yeah, they want to be famous. Let's come up with something new. Yeah, I'm scared. I'm curious that you like Nick, because Nick I immediately clocked as like the Rob of this season. Like not as hot as Rob, obviously. Of course. But kind of feels like someone that could be in the middle of a lot of love triangles, like very unclear communicator, but also is going to follow his heart to the day he dies. He has a big heart. It's just useless. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyway, I am excited for this season. If you had to couple up with someone, who would you couple up with? I would couple up with Shelly. Dang, I was going to couple up with her. You want to be gay so bad. Happy bride to Hunter, huh? Maybe so. Oh, I'd couple up with Ciara because I want to use her blush. I want her to give me a tutorial. That's actually more lesbian than my answer. Like, I'm like, I want a scissor. And you're like, well, I want to use her blush and, like, compliment each other on her skin. And that's real lesbian. Like I said, happy bride. The real L word is happening here right now. But I will say the guy I'd want a couple, well, before it was Austin for a long time, it was Austin because I love when a man has just air going through his head. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, just nothing going on. But then it's like at the end of the day, I'm going to need a heart of gold. And it's more of a heart of bronze, but I'll take Knicks. Oh. What boy are you taking? I need a man that can see me through the finish line. No, you know who you, you know who you, you know who you, what, what, what? You love, you go love you some ace. i really love some drama some mess i was gonna choose ace oh because ace oh we'd be fussing we'd be fighting we'd be we'd be making out we'd be making up no we would make for great tv you would you'd be like oh you're pissing me off come here literally i'd be like my three let's go yeah and our ace just come falling along behind me oh my god i'd be i'd be like um serena serena walking to that house last season oh my god when cordell yes she's walking to every single boy telling and giving them a piece of her mind. That would be mean-y. - They haven't caught up to that level of drama yet. I will say watching how messy they're being week two though, Casa Amor, it's gonna be over. It's gonna be dark, it's gonna be over. - Look, Gord, Huda, and Jeremy, Jeremiah. - Exactly. - When Casa Amor happens, we're gonna hear it over here. - People wanted, so America had to vote for who they think the new people should couple up with, and one of the pairings basically made Huda single and vulnerable spoiler um and you should have seen the look in her bloodshot red angry five foot two eyes she do be crying oh she was ready to tear their asses apart and after all those men like stood on their podiums to be like this seems fake this is weird y'all are moving too fast like huda sorry we vote you off oh sleep with one eye open those men are done for oh no don't fuck with a bitch with fake freckles oh no no no oh no no no i'm scared of her i will say people on the internet though are just like they're pretty fucking mean funny but like we have to remember like there's they barely have air to breathe over there they have no phones no connection with the real world like it's just them in bikinis for 24 hours a day they do work out sometimes it's like they have their toasties and they work out and they go in the pool and they make out and they just walk around if can they read that are they are they allowed to read books i don't think so no books dang that's crazy that's really that's what really shook the table for you there's no books like you can't just like like casually what because they're like you can't read on camera oh that's like you can't watch a movie you can't watch you like you're doing nothing all day so it's like these people are naturally going to be their worst selves yeah imagine you without a film imagine you without criteria and i don't want to imagine it actually that's why i can't go on That's why me and Ace can never be-- - Terrifying. - Okay, wait, well I do, I do wanna know, are you gonna be pressing play on, what is it called, island beyond the villa yes oh i watched the trailer this morning and i said oh period ppg no because i know my i said no those are my girls yeah those are my girls and also i was so happy to see who was that messy one who had like the the sex tape leak or like the only fans oh i don't remember the k kenny kenny no no yeah but you know what i'm talking about yeah the mix is yes i when i saw him on my screen i said oh i love my jolly little gossip king i love a man who loves us our drama who's too he's so mixy it like oh no he said it was my asshole whatever and what about it i when i saw him on my screen i felt like i saw like like a friend like hello my old pal um is rob not on that show i think he's gonna be on traitors oh on with with jarenda and we'll circle back to the cast of that on a different episode can't wait oh but finish catch up hunter i feel really empowered right now because in the space with us we have someone who's not just from la heard of it little town but also is a straight lesbian just like me with us today we have grace cool and schmidt which is one of the hardest names to pronounce but we ride with her regardless who is a comedian actress and television person ality since 2023 she has been a correspondent on the daily show this year she was featured on the new fx series adults welcome grace to the pod audience going crazy also two hands up was so caucasian of you by the way i got scared i'm not really scared you should try it actually go ahead no it actually feels so good i get why i get why white people do this a little bit of a stretch yeah that's nice for your back oh yeah lumbar support my lower back yeah exactly um i have a very important question for you okay please are you a lover or a hater so i honestly like do think i am a lover but then part of me feels like is that like even like a fair thing you can say about yourself we've never heard that answer before i think so as someone who ideas as a lover like i love to hate but then again i'm like i started that sentence with love yeah true and also you smell amazing and what fragrance are you wearing i'm wearing it really sucks that the fragrance i'm wearing is called lover yeah and it's delicious i've never gotten i hate that i actually just said delicious no no i liked it i've never gotten more compliments on any perfume i've ever had so i did have to now i had to invest and i had to buy the full bottle yeah i started as a sample as many and go ahead and tell us where you got it um from a boutique hotel in upstate new york i never got it from a boutique hotel in upstate new york i've never been to i actually just got it on the website wait so how did you how did you even discover to begin with well i'm an influencer of sorts period to camera and own it yeah yeah so i got it as a sample okay and then yeah like every single person like my boss complimented it my friends really hot people complimented it and i was like yeah this is my thing now like really earned their check that day yeah 100 because also i didn't even message them to say can i have it for free i bought it with my hard-earned money oh wow i know i know well it smells really really good thanks so much i think it affirms the truth which is you are a lover yeah that's what i think too i think things go both way when you're gay you either become a the ultimate lover or the ultimate hater and nothing in between and i think that i'm a lover too because i really like i actually do have straight people that i completely am obsessed with and admire and not a you're being true thank you and there's a straight person in the room with us right now who i think really i had a weird freaky feeling and so i just wanted you to hear that through and through that i i aspire did you think under was straight i'm actually curious um no i didn't know you were straight i've been following hunter for a really long time oh my goodness but you didn't think there could have been an inkling of like a lot of people do i didn't ask you right now i asked no i didn't i didn't think so but also like almost every other clip you guys post is pay and being like please shut up you're that was loaded but and thank you for seeing my struggle like it feels so good to be recognized and affirmed during pride month as a straight woman okay grace we have another question for you are you a lover or a hater of being an adult oh man well i do ultimately think lover of it i miss so badly not having responsibility yeah do you take that for granted now i meet nine-year-olds and i'm like soak it in that's what even even like 16 year olds i'm like hey come on don't let before your parents see get over here soak in every moment but um i think it's pretty awesome like to you know walk around and you don't have to really text anyone that kind of sums it up for me no one needs to know what time i'm going to bed wait is that childhood or adulthood actually that's adulthood oh because you're not texting anyone as a child either well you have to say mom i'm going to be home at this time oh that's true yeah i guess i wasn't not me i was on the playground until i wanted you there till sunrise doing what like just sitting by yourself journaling probably actually okay um i have a follow-up question okay adult roommates how many is too many before it becomes a commune i think any okay any more than like five total is a commune like if you have four roommates yeah that's like really pushing it yeah because that's one refrigerator and and frankly i've actually seen people who live in a place with that many roommates with two refrigerators and that might actually push it into commune even more yeah multiple yeah yeah yeah multiple fridge in the garage yeah it's so but that's very suburban yeah that's very suburban i've seen i'm talking like a new new york city brownstone that had two refrigerators because there were so many people in that house but it's also getting wealthy if that's like if all those people are related then it's like oh you're rich right but if they're not related it's like oh you're poor something needs to change i didn't say that i'm joking and grace are you a lover of rich or poor you're like well that's a tough one babe okay can you talk to us a little bit about the show adults and um just how you got onto the show and how that all happened it was so fun it was so fun um i'm in one episode episode five episode five and you really take the cake i i it it's like one scene but perhaps it's split into two which i'll take so two scenes that rocks and um we filmed in toronto i was there for like four days had the time of my life i had butter chicken poutine while i was there can't recommend enough and the set was so like that cast like actually is a group of friends this is not a pr answer but it's a group of friends and i'm like oh my god i'm so excited to be in this yeah this is not a pr answer but it's a group of friends and i'm like oh my god i'm so excited to be in this like it really was very fun in a way where i was like they were like and grace is wrapped and i was like i'll stick around a little bit fuck it all right we have another meal coming today no prob i'll be here so um but it was fun i mean i got offered the role which is like always very fun to not have to send in a self-tape audition yeah um because i consistently bombed those and never book jobs that way so that's awesome self-taping is like a really scary art yeah um because i consistently bomb those and never book jobs that way so that's awesome self-taping is like a really scary art it's completely humiliating and it never gets easier asking someone to do it with you oh that's the hard part yeah you just like swallow your pride or like can they do it well well that's the thing i don't think it matters if they do it well okay but it does matter like if i'm like rushing through the scenes yeah knowing that this person is miserable you know what i mean yeah yeah but you know i had to have my neighbor do a self-tape with me last week and are you close like yes we are oh well that's sweet but um it was like she was laughing through it and i was like i just have to send this in with her laughing yeah and it is what it is so that's that at least they know we have fun here well in your scene you i actually have to like because saying this out loud is insane the episode five titled there aside you play a character who helps lead a seance and i first thought like okay where you're just like i'm off book i know how to do this you've played with the world you've played with the world you've played with the world you've played with the ouija board before it was at your gospel have you played with the ouija board i've never played with the ouija board before i don't fuck with that kind of stuff thank you you know how i feel that was serious i really don't scary i'm perfectly fine with ghosts being real and existing yeah and i think that if they're hearing me right now i'm not gonna fuck with you if you don't like i want to be crystal clear you can do whatever you want in this world but just stay away because i'm scared no i'm a big scaredy cat you know what i mean this is the only scene with a seance that i was able to be like oh this is like like i'm staying away but like oh it's like fun i see only white girls doing that sleepover so i'm like oh it can be kind of fun to be like but the funniest part in the scene is when you misspell george yeah yeah yeah i was i felt very seen so i'm making up as i go well thank you because i am dyslexic and dysgraphic i was diagnosed with that i don't remember what that means okay i was just gonna be like i have dysgraphia yeah and and you're like and i'm saying it first you're breaking my news and i'm proud to say i'm here right now it's so important when celebrities speak out yeah it's That's so critical in this challenging time. It's like Nick Jonas saying that he had diabetes. This is my turn right now. What a moment. Yeah. The way that we all like fell to our knees. I mean, completely. I was like, he's dead. I don't think I knew of a white person having diabetes before that. Wow. And see, that's what he did for my community. Yeah, he opened up the conversation. He did. He really, he started something. Oh my God. But it was a really fun scene. I got to improvise a bunch. And like one of the lines that I improvised made it into the final cut, which I was really happy about. How does it feel? Are you like so proud? Yeah, 100%. It was like really fun. When they showed me, I like went back into a studio in New York to like do some like, it's called ADR, which is where you just like dub over it a little bit. And I saw that the line where I said, my nipples are so hard right now, made it in. And I was like, yeah. Wait, that was so good. That deserves it. That's so good. That's so good. I think it was that line that made me think, oh, she's not new to this. She's true to this. Thank you. I thought you were summoning the devil. Thank you. Well, that's a very like white girl LA thing to do. Absolutely. Summon the devil? Or have our nipples? Oh my God, they love Ouija boards. Yes. Both. And the nipples situation. Yeah. Totally. Oh my gosh. I remember in like third grade, girls being like, let's go to the bathroom and do the like, what would you say in the mirror where it would like bring out a ghost or something? Oh, Candyman. Yeah. Like something like that. Or Kelly Ben Simone. Gosh. If you say her name in the mirror. I don't know if mine was either of those versions, but I'm going to assume it's the exact same. If you say it three times. No, I know what you're saying. Everyone screams and you run out of the bathroom. Like bloody murder or whatever. Yes. Yes. Yes. Oh, yes. Okay. A different question. Okay. Despite not liking spirits or like ghosts, have you ever, do you like do like psychics or like mediums, any of that stuff? No. Are you gay? Yeah. I keep it real close to home. Like I'm like, I'm not, I'm fine with the way my life is right now. Like I don't do like, even like there was a while where I was like, I don't even touch psychedelic drugs. Like since then, you know, I'm mature. I'm matured and done mushrooms. You're an adult. I'm not a fucking baby. But there was a really long time where I was like, I'm not touching shit because my brain feels good right now and I'm not going to mess around. And I feel that way with psychics. I'm like, if they tell me something that I feel is untrue, that's not going to bode well for me. No, listen, the most I've ever done, the most I've ever done is Reiki. Oh, yes. And my mom tested me. Isn't that yoga? No. Okay, sorry. It's like they kind of tap you. It's a light tap in a spiritual practice. Oh, whoa. Oh, am I thinking of Reishi? Who's that? Is that yoga? Oh, fuck him, actually. Reiki is just like, you literally like lay down and there's like light touching and like kind of energy channeling. Okay, okay. Between you and a person. Okay, great. And my mom texted me immediately after and I knew that she would be pissed if she knew that I did it. Like I was like, oh, wow, this could be really like mother's intuition. Completely. This really affirms for me that like lesbianism is a spectrum. Right. Because I couldn't be further from that. I'm doing it. If it's anything. If it's any kind of spirit, I'm like, you call me, I'm picking up. But you also seem like pretty deep into like astrology. Thank you. Yeah. And is that true for you too, Hunter? I'm just a Leo. So just anything that pertains to anything. But see, like I'm a Cancer and sometimes I'm like reading what Cancers are about and it's like, well, you can't get off the fucking floor from sobbing. And I'm like, that's just not the case. No, that's not true. Also, happy early season. It's almost your time. Thank you so much. Happy to have you in the space. Thanks. When is your birthday? What is, what is Cancer's again? June 30th. And it is my 30th. Oh my God. Golden birthday. Wait, and how are you going to celebrate? I still don't know. I was thinking really big for a really long time. Yeah. And then I remembered that that's thousands of dollars. Right. All the ideas that I had. Yeah. So I'm still kind of deciding. Does 30 mean something to you? Like, I think no, actually. Okay. That's powerful. That's really radical. Well, I'm dating a 32 year old. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So like, because of that. Age gap relationship. I know. And when I help her across the street, you know, with her cane and everything, I realize she's just like me. Yeah. She's like actually just two grades above you. Or three grades above you. Yeah. Well, speaking of lesbians. Yeah. And age gap relationships, actually. Oh my God. We kind of have to legally talk about this. We weren't like planning on talking about this before. We've got to talk about what's happening to the lesbian community. We're kind of under attack right now. Yeah. It's really. It just does feel like hit after hit after hit. And I actually feel lucky to be in the age range that I am because I think perhaps if I were like younger and out, this would actually be affecting me. But to be completely honest, I've never looked up to Jojo Siwa Fletcher or Billie Eilish. You know what I mean? So I am like, it's fine. But it is quite interesting. Okay. Well, tell me what's going on. Get me up to date. Okay. So as we talked about last week or some. A few weeks ago, Jojo Siwa is now dating her co-star from Big Brother who, whatever about her dating a man, but it is weird that he is 10 plus years older than her. That is uncomfortable. And he's ugly. Like, I don't have time for both things. I know. I know. And then Billie Eilish, there are photos of her kissing the Naked Brothers band boy. Oh, there's always a Naked Brothers boy band somewhere. They're booked. They really stay around. I don't want to know their names. That's not my business. Nat Wolf. Nat and Alex, I think. I've gotten confirmation from someone in the studio, yes. Yeah, from Nod. You stay on the pulse of culture here. Even though, like, sorry, quick digression. Naked Brothers band? Slapped. Hits after hits after hits. It was no Jonas Brothers. Girl. The real deep cuts. Oh, my God. Okay, I'll see you in the year 3000. They were, like, funny, though. Yeah. Which the Jonas Brothers, we cannot say, were. They were funny in the purity ring. Sure. I had a laugh about that. Comedy genius. Yeah. Yeah. And then, lastly, see, this was where it goes a little too far. It's too white for me, but Fletcher, who is a lesbian singer, pop sensation, is now dating and wrote a song about dating a guy. Mm-hmm. And it's really erupted. It's a coming out song. Yeah. Coming out as a guy. It is literally a coming out song of being in a straight relationship. Yeah. Like, she's still queer, 100%. Yeah. But it's just not as, like, if you switch the lyrics instead of when she says boy to girl, it makes so much more sense. Yeah. It's kind of like acting like the plight. The plight is being bi. And actually, like, let's pause. It is, from what I've heard. The plight is being bi, okay? Bis have guns to their head at all times. Totally. And it's, like, from everyone, from straight people, from gay people, from lesbians. Right. Like, they want them dead. And that's fair. But it's tough right now. This is my take on it, is, like, if you are in a relationship where you can, you know, walk down the street holding hands with your partner safely without getting, you know, glares or second looks or, like, anything like that. Yeah. Yeah. And you are, like, trying to say, like, I'm queer and I still have struggles. You gotta have a little sense of humor about it. Yeah. You have to at least be able to laugh a tiny bit. Yeah. So when we're seeing Fletcher's song so seriously about this, I just can't help but laugh. Yeah. Yeah. I cannot help but laugh. It's, like, the funniest, meanest thing you could say. I just cannot help but laugh. Like, I can't take you seriously if you're not taking this seriously. Right. We're just taking it. So unseriously. Thank you. I think that's something that's really funny, too. It's, like, the Billie Eilish of it all. It's, like, that one's, like, there's just photos of her. She could just be taking some dick in the morning. Like, that's allowed. Do you know how many lesbians I know that take some dick? Don't name names. Don't name names. But I will. DM me and I'll name them. And I'll name them. Yeah. And one of them might be. Just kidding. I'm not going to do that part right now. But it just feels so, I don't know, the discourse online. I think, like, your social media is so funny around it. Because it's. Because it's so unserious. Like, I don't know why we're having such in-depth conversations about being, like, all over again. It's fine to be bi. We did this in 2008 when Obama was president. Completely. Like, we already did this. Completely. I feel like we did it even more recently than that, too. You were doing it. It's fine to be bi. Straight but not narrow. Yeah. I was a big straight but not narrow girl. I was big into that community. Leader of the troops. Yeah. Okay. Obviously, you've joked about being a straight lesbian, but you do have to unpack. For the group here. Yeah. And because there are lesbians watching with guns loaded. What does that mean to you? Well, okay. It's what an ex of mine called me. Because, like, one time, like, she invited me to a bar where three of her guy friends were at. And, like, I walked in and then, like, they went to the bar. And I was, like, I said to her, like, your guy friends are so hot. And she was, like, what the fuck? I think I appreciate beauty. Yeah. God forbid. In a way that. I think it's really special. And I am, like, truly not straight at all. Like, actually, you know, I could brag. Like, before I came out, I had sex with four men. Four? Four. And one of them, probably I had sex with him three times. Okay. Huge lie. So, we're talking mathematically. I've taken dicks seven times. But, like, truly, like, I mean, the first time I held hands with a girl, like, more was happening in my body. Yeah. Than. When I was literally having sex with a man. Sure. So, I just know that I'm so, so gay. But straight lesbians stuck with me. Like, she called me that. And I was, like, whoa. Like, absolutely. Did you feel called out or called in? I felt called in. Yeah. That was important. Final question. Who was, like, okay, name one hot man then. Oh, my, like, password to almost everything. Wait. What? Should you say? Oh, it's not anymore. It's been changed. Sorry, I'm looking out for you. I'm looking tough. I did not get that. Whereas, I guess. And I was like, "What?" - Can you imagine? - I thought you were trying to be like, "It's private for you." Like, you want to keep that. into my facebook okay you're one hot man for a really long time my password for forever was josh holloway who was sawyer from lost and it really if you actually dissect him he is giving lesbian he has my haircut he's a blueprint and like yeah he's like fucking gigantic and jacked but like who's to say a lesbian can't be those things yeah most lesbians are in my life yeah that's the best one's on he's like angry and i found that to be really sexy i then had a period of dating kind of angry women and that was cool too and i just like think that he um like he kind of like went beyond like i still look at photos of him there's a perfume ad that he did or i guess cologne ad that he did for a while that like i had printed out and on my like wall in my bedroom and i still look at it and i'm like whoa uh-oh uh-oh that's a really good looking guy let me have a bite i kind of want his haircut exactly oh my god well thank you straight lesbian grace for coming on thank you where can people follow you um on instagram on social media at g cool instrument it's gonna be hard to spell but you can do it um you can see me on adults on fx right now and on the daily show about once a week perfect thank you it is so beautiful to see someone in their element thank you also you totally very much so um well no i was in the car with our friend luke driving from rome to tuscany and we decided on the addison ray album yep and i think we got there stronger faster even harder even let's say it just off of the adrenaline of this album alone um i really don't even know really what it's called i was gonna say wait what a great um backdrop for this album yeah i would say there and where i listened to it which was biking for a long time in new york on like a summer day yes it's really an album for pondering oh for contemplating you know i love to do those things yes yes yes yes okay are we calling ourselves racists or are we calling ourselves addicts and one more time to the camera racists or addicts don't boo vote i feel we've got to come up with something better than that it's fun i think it i think it works it works for her actually i feel like she would naturally prefer addicts over racists if she had to pick do people say addicts or i just made that up i don't know okay well we'll also go back however i did like this album a lot i think it's a really good summer album yes um very strong singles very strong very strong single i would not say a very strong rollout though because i think some of the singles she should have kept she released a lot of singles i know but from album for an album like this from someone who is like not necessarily taken very seriously which i think is to everyone else's detriment i think you need strong singles i think you need to like get the people in yeah yeah especially when you're making like a hard pivot from people who only saw her as like a tiktoker into like a real artist i think no we need the strength of the singles okay all right go ahead yeah period all right well tell me your top top three songs number one okay listen new york new york and let me tell you i'm not going to i've heard of the city and i've heard of the state the city's so nice i aimed it twice hey the other name is new york by addison right yeah um okay no i love new york and then diet pepsi and then also high fashion oh and aquamarine i like too but i feel like people people did not get high fashion on the first listen they didn't get it but saints we got it let me tell you we got it um loved it what about you uh top three hear me out fame is a gun and it is it's such a good song to dance to it's such a sexy track is fame a gun or is it a knife i think a gun okay and it's loaded okay yeah yeah and put it at me no yeah i know blast oh no no blast it okay um second would be okay fame is a gun number one new york number two headphones on number three oh put your headphones on that's a song for pondering yeah that's a song for like doing just a little bit of molly not too much just a little i don't know now i'm like should i take away high fashion and add headphones on i think you should i think that's what's right i think i will i think i will headphones on is really such good and i also love just like it's very lana this whole album goes very long yeah yeah even the aesthetic lana if she moved it's very lana del rey say it's giving it's like somewhere in between video games and and w video game that's kind of good keep going try it with me no you just piss me off i always piss you off though what's new that's a day that ends why okay i'm just trying to shake the table well it's already okay i'm talking i'm talking i get if i want to be interrupted i could go to congress that's fair yeah anyway no it's giving very lana to me yeah i think it's lana if she knew what five six seven eight meant here we go you know what five six seven eight means dance background well i think if lana was a mover a shaker a dancer we would have here we go addison ray but there's but like that's like against lana del rey's dna to be a moving answer she's not meant to okay she's just a glamorous person she's meant to smoke a cigarette question for the culture what it was question for the culture why why do i have to glamorize movement yeah movement i'm moving my hips um no i okay big question yeah a real question for the culture okay do you think that the um excitement around this album comes from the fact that the other like more up poppy um music girls are not really delivering like are we so excited for this album because like the last ariana album didn't really deliver oh because julepa listen i don't even put her in that category though like when i think of addison ray not just because like you know she's new here but she still skews a little bit younger a little greener i'm putting her in like the chapel-ish world the sabrina world like i think in conversation with those peers well she makes sense yeah i think that's what i'm trying to say i think that's what i'm totally those are her peers but i think but i think her sound it like i think all these songs could really be like selena gomez songs sure but she's not gonna work she did actually yeah she i like that the bluest the bluest flame bluest flame yeah yeah yeah i saw that on tiktok a lot i like that song but i think in general the thing that i really love about this album and love about addison ray as much as i can say this with capitalism being involved is it feels like she's no longer like she's lost that like tiktok thing that made her so famous because she worked for quote on quote off everybody and now this music feels like hyper tailored to like people who can't drive and i think that that is something that's really beautiful and a demographic that is often left behind speaking of new york they just do not drive in new york you want to drive in new york i i have and i almost died and then and then i did i got hit by a fedex truck remember no no no no no it's true i didn't get any money from that by the way i'm i'm loving this album i'm loving aesthetically where she's going i think it's batshit but i think it's working for me but what do you want next for her a tour a tour a tour like a small a small tour i don't want to sing i might just want to like dance like like vibe out live i want to see her five six seven eight live you know what she'll do she'll vibe out that is exactly that's all i kind of want her equivalent of um the brat tour not that i know because i was uninvited from going with you but um i want her just like dancing on stage like just like hanging out just being silly yeah yeah yeah yeah what do you want next from just addison i just well i'm interested if she's going to even continue with music because i feel like this felt like something she was just like kind of doing for fun like she was like in the middle of the artist's way and was like oh this is a chapter i'm going to explore yeah i brought a dollar's way again here we go here we go like i'm going to explore a new hobby and see if it feels fruitful and like a fit for me and i'm going to do something next i don't think so i think she's i think she wants to be a musician yeah yeah yeah i mean what her podcast interview for the new york times i think that was like giving like like really wants it wants it she does yeah okay so just a quick fact check she does actually want to be a musician but okay you know what you know i think i think she got real serious about acting i don't know what happened with the he's all that on netflix i choose to forget but she got serious about acting i think she could play young britney i think she'd do it well and i don't stand on that's the business i'll stand on so it's not talking to you clock that all right well that's it for this week as usual we are two online so you don't have to be i just hope you know what you're doing and i'll see you guys next week you guys 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