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They tell the police their side of the story. We lightly edited them to cut out dead air or repeated information. But we've left these mostly intact, so you can hear the whole interaction. We're starting with the welfare check on December 12th. Laura's mom, Jan, is the one who answers the door. And just a heads up, you'll hear the officer's phone buzzing from time to time. Hi there. Is Laura here? Yeah. Is somebody called in a welfare check about her? Yes. Yeah. It's a friend from New York. I don't know if you know who that might be. No. What I do know is that she is the target of an online. harassment campaign that has been going on for months. Okay. And one of the things that they wanted to do, it was started by a disgruntled ex-boyfriend of hers. And he started posting all of this crazy stuff about her on Reddit. Stuff that is unbelievable. Right. And so he has encouraged people to do. to call in the Scottsdale Police Department and ask for a welfare check on her. This is like the third one in a week. Okay. Oh, wow. And I had contacted the. I mean, she called in and talked to the Scottsdale Police Department as well and said, you know, we don't want your resources. This is ridiculous. It's a prank. Okay. Thing. But I'm happy to go get her. She was taking a nap. This has been. devastating beyond belief. Is she asleep now? She's taking a nap, but I can wake her up. I don't think that would be necessary. No, it's okay. We'll let. So, I don't. For some reason, it wasn't in our notes for your address. Uh-huh. I'm going to put comments in there that says this is an ongoing prank. Right. Right. They still may send. We have to understand, because if we don't. If it's not us on, or it's not the same dispatchers, they still might just send on it. Uh-huh. But I would work on trying to contact Reddit and let them know. She has contacted them. They will not take it down. And this guy, he's created different fake accounts. He. I mean, it's. He's going to Great Lakes. Have you looked into an injunction against harassment? She has. Okay. Against him. She's. This is part of his. Part of his thing. She's had this against him for two years. And. Oh, this is an old ex-boyfriend, then. Yeah. Oh, wow. It's an old ex-boyfriend. And she had the injunction against harassment against him. I mean, he's really. Another friend of ours who is an FBI profiler had looked at, you know, what this guy is all about. And she said he's the kind of a person who is not going to. He's not going to stop unless he thinks he's got a win. Okay. And he had said to her. He texted her, I will destroy your life. I will destroy your reputation. And that was two years ago. And he's just. He's just continued this. Is he local here? Yeah. He's local. What's his name? He's local. His name is Greg Gillespie. But he could have called from a fake number. Or like I say, he's tried to start stuff online. She had. She contacted the Scottsdale. The Scottsdale Police Department with a lot of instances of these. And they sent it to the prosecutor's office. And the prosecutor's office said that they didn't think they could get a conviction on it. They said there was a lot of stuff. But they didn't know that they. If they would be able to get a conviction on it. So I think that one of his motives is to try to make it so that when her order against him comes up for renewal next year, that he can say, well, look, you know, she's crazy. You know, look at all this stuff that he's posted online about her. And, you know. Well, and then especially for her, document it, get copies of it. So then she can go right back to the judge and be like, this is what's going on. Right. And he's contacted a podcaster who has also been doing just relentless posts about her. And. That's so strange. I know. Well, what happened. What prompted a lot of this stuff is my daughter became pregnant by. The guy who was the bachelor last year. And she became pregnant by him in May. And then he was acting like, oh, you're not really pregnant. Or if you are pregnant, it's not mine. And then other times he was saying to us, like, oh, but he wanted to be involved in the pregnancy and all this kind of stuff. So anyhow, when this ex-boyfriend found out about her pregnancy with this guy, then it said. Oh, okay. Into kind of an overdrive thing. And then he reached out to him. And it's like, my daughter finally did a big post on Medium the other day explaining, you know, just the toll that all of this has taken on her and how it's just. It's just crazy beyond belief. Is it your neighbor? I think there's probably somebody. Our neighbor babysits dogs during the daytime. So I think this is like pickup time. Oh, okay. It's more like, oh. I know, I know. I'm always kind of like that, too. Um, get online. I also try to get online. Um, you can contact Google at different places and have her information removed from online. Like house, phone number, things like that. Uh-huh. Work on doing that, too. Uh-huh. Try to get as much information as you can offline. Uh-huh. I know it's hard. Yeah. We have to do it, and that's exactly how they tell us to do it. And there's ways to, like, whitepages.com, and you can go on. There's a link that says remove my information. Uh-huh. You can go on that, have her start doing all that information, too. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Um, and then. i i get that they're coming to the house but see what you can do to block that information right right right well i just feel i feel really awful for you guys because you know this is this is it's a waste of it's a waste of resources and it's obviously you know prank stuff do you know what phone number had contacted it's a 415 area code it's out of new york 415 is is san francisco because we're from san francisco our number is the 4151 the the person that called us gave us that phone number to contact her so that whoever called doesn't have is getting old information online okay do you have do you because i just like this give me give me a second i'll walk out and go grab it oh that would be great do you know how to spell greg's last name is it g-i-l-l-e-s-p-i-e has he been harassing her by stopping by the house at all anything like that he has gone into her email he they they dated very briefly and she became pregnant by him okay and and he was very shall we say violent in his effort to get her to have an abortion so she filed an abortion coercion case against him okay which really ticked him off yeah she didn't ask for any money for her she asked for a charitable donation for abortion coercion did you get that it yeah it's four it doesn't sound familiar i'm gonna actually give them a call to follow up with them okay what is uh what is greg drive do you know i don't don't i don't she didn't i he's made lies i mean absolute he's made crazy things he's posted online stuff saying that uh that he went to high school with her which he never did i mean he's posted on these fake accounts saying that he knew her in high school and that um that she uh was pregnant by a developmental developmentally disabled kid the father of somebody else the principal the school principal i mean things that are so unbelievably outrageous i mean it's just like it's to really i think try to discredit her again so that when her order against him comes up yeah that it'll look like oh wow you look at this stuff online man you know so so there is a current order of protection against him yes yes there is a current order of protection against him yes yes there is and was that filed through scottsdale and was that filed through scottsdale and was that filed through scottsdale yeah county okay okay yeah and i mean and the guy is the guy yeah county okay okay yeah and i mean and the guy is the guy is unhinged i mean i had no sounds like i is unhinged i mean i had no sounds like i is unhinged i mean i had no sounds like i had no clue when you know i had said to had no clue when you know i had said to had no clue when you know i had said to her when she wanted to file this her when she wanted to file this her when she wanted to file this abortion coercion case in the first abortion coercion case in the first abortion coercion case in the first place i said you know what just let place i said you know what just let place i said you know what just let sleeping dogs lie just be done with him sleeping dogs lie just be done with him sleeping dogs lie just be done with him and everything like that she was like no and everything like that she was like no and everything like that she was like no i feel really strongly about about what i feel really strongly about about what i feel really strongly about about what he did and the way he did it to me he did and the way he did it to me he did and the way he did it to me and uh so you know she went ahead with and uh so you know she went ahead with it and and as i say it just started this it and and as i say it just started this it and and as i say it just started this torrent of of torrent of of torrent of of yeah yeah really really bad stuff but yeah yeah really really bad stuff but yeah yeah really really bad stuff but anyway i i um anyway i i um anyway i i um i appreciate it and no problem i appreciate it and no problem i appreciate it and no problem look and definitely look into trying to look and definitely look into trying to look and definitely look into trying to get any information you can removed get any information you can removed get any information you can removed online because they had your name too online because they had your name too online because they had your name too they did what did they have as elizabeth they did what did they have as elizabeth they did what did they have as elizabeth okay that's my yeah that's my given okay that's my yeah that's my given okay that's my yeah that's my given name jam is my nickname name jam is my nickname name jam is my nickname robert robert robert when i took a picture of it just oh okay when i took a picture of it just oh okay when i took a picture of it just oh okay they have your husband's name too okay they have your husband's name too okay they have your husband's name too okay ron ron ron okay so ron ron okay so ron ron okay so um and this address so i would um and this address so i would um and this address so i would i would definitely try to see whatever you i would definitely try to see whatever you i would definitely try to see whatever you can move from online yeah no they've can move from online yeah no they've can move from online yeah no they've they've been trying to post on our they've been trying to post on our they've been trying to post on our social media stuff they posted on her social media stuff they posted on her social media stuff they posted on her social media stuff they've social media stuff they've social media stuff they've uh and and this guy as i say um uh and and this guy as i say um uh and and this guy as i say um when she was going out with him he said when she was going out with him he said when she was going out with him he said like you know well i'm really like you know well i'm really like you know well i'm really suspicious of people so um you know suspicious of people so um you know suspicious of people so um you know would you give me your passwords because would you give me your passwords because would you give me your passwords because he's been doing them years and years ago he's been doing them years and years ago he's been doing them years and years ago and and and and doctored emails and sent them as and doctored emails and sent them as and doctored emails and sent them as though they were from her though they were from her though they were from her he's doctored letterhead um he did come he's doctored letterhead um he did come he's doctored letterhead um he did come here one time uh when she was dating him here one time uh when she was dating him here one time uh when she was dating him and and the first thing he said is he and and the first thing he said is he and and the first thing he said is he said hey i need your parents wi-fi said hey i need your parents wi-fi said hey i need your parents wi-fi information he was out here he said i information he was out here he said i information he was out here he said i need their wi-fi what's her their need their wi-fi what's her their need their wi-fi what's her their password and stuff like that so he's password and stuff like that so he's password and stuff like that so he's he's been doing a he's been doing a he's been doing a yeah um if yeah um if yeah um if uh later when you speak to laura like i uh later when you speak to laura like i uh later when you speak to laura like i said i don't necessarily want to wake her said i don't necessarily want to wake her said i don't necessarily want to wake her up but if she wants to speak with up but if she wants to speak with up but if she wants to speak with someone from the police department about someone from the police department about someone from the police department about everything that's been going on lately everything that's been going on lately everything that's been going on lately because you said it's been the like the because you said it's been the like the because you said it's been the like the third time in about the last week or so third time in about the last week or so third time in about the last week or so right and she had talked with detective right and she had talked with detective right and she had talked with detective reedy i think had reedy i think had reedy i think had he had come up with uh he had sent the he had come up with uh he had sent the he had come up with uh he had sent the stuff and forwarded it to the stuff and forwarded it to the he had come up with uh he had sent the prosecutors but the prosecutors just prosecutors but the prosecutors just prosecutors but the prosecutors just said that they're said that they're said that they're you know they'd have to be assured of you know they'd have to be assured of you know they'd have to be assured of getting a connection out to getting a connection out to getting a connection out to have her reach out to detective reedy have her reach out to detective reedy have her reach out to detective reedy again and let him know what's going on again and let him know what's going on again and let him know what's going on with this now with this now with this now um that may be able to kind of help um that may be able to kind of help um that may be able to kind of help maybe refile maybe refile maybe refile the charges i think what his thing was the charges i think what his thing was the charges i think what his thing was that it would be difficult for him that it would be difficult for him that it would be difficult for him to be able to prove you know she was to be able to prove you know she was to be able to prove you know she was suspicious of all this stuff suspicious of all this stuff suspicious of all this stuff yeah but that i mean we pretty you know yeah but that i mean we pretty you know yeah but that i mean we pretty you know there's nobody else who would have the there's nobody else who would have the there's nobody else who would have the motive to do that yeah it is difficult motive to do that yeah it is difficult motive to do that yeah it is difficult it's hard it's proven yeah it's it's it's hard it's proven yeah it's it's proven yeah it's it's proven because he goes under proven because he goes under proven because he goes under names he like i say he obviously you names he like i say he obviously you names he like i say he obviously you know doctor did they say what their know doctor did they say what their know doctor did they say what their concern was when they called suicidal concern was when they called suicidal concern was when they called suicidal comments okay well because she had when comments okay well because she had when comments okay well because she had when she posted this thing she posted this thing she posted this thing on medium she she had written in there on medium she she had written in there on medium she she had written in there that it that it that it that this unrelenting that this unrelenting that this unrelenting this has gone on for months uh that this unrelenting this has gone on for months uh that this had this had this had made her feel borderline suicidal okay made her feel borderline suicidal okay made her feel borderline suicidal okay so so so you know but she she you know but she she you know but she she said the borderline suicidal thing but said the borderline suicidal thing but said the borderline suicidal thing but that's not that's not that's not you know you know you know yeah that's not the case right right it's yeah that's not the case right right it's yeah that's not the case right right it's like she she had said to me like oh my like she she had said to me like oh my like she she had said to me like oh my god how much more of this can i take does she have any friends in new york my daughter lives in new york my other daughter lives in new york but she's she's well aware of what what's going on she she would and she would contact you directly oh of course of course and and laura talks to her like twice like two hours a day they're on the phone so and i was just with my daughter in there like five minutes before you guys rang and the reason i she lives in the casita and the reason i left was because she said hey i'm just i'm spent from all this i just want to close my eyes for for a little bit yeah when did she post that when did she post the medium thing yesterday yesterday no it was before yet i mean it was it was on there yesterday but i want to say it was maybe uh today's tuesday maybe friday night or saturday that kind of goes with the timeline i'm gonna give this to you not that you guys are in crisis uh-huh but they might be able to kind of help just give her someone else to talk to or then they have resources that we don't even know exist oh really reach out they might be able to help you okay it's in a good direction okay okay um and also reach out to the detective for you again and and there's yeah yeah let him know what's been happening and yeah that way he he's kind of apprised of it too so it might it might be able to help kind of open a different door a different direction but reach out to him again these guys have a lot of a lot of resources that we don't even know exist okay so give them a call okay okay yeah it can't hurt because no i mean because like she had said she had tried to be anonymous with this whole thing initially with the the pregnancy with the bachelor guy and then and then people were saying well wait you can or this guy was starting the conversation that wait you can google the case and then her name comes up and it's laura owens and she's a podcaster she and i do a podcast um and we've done it for uh i guess it's 2017 and itunes named us one of the top 25 most downloaded new podcasts in 2018 so we've had we've had success with it but i mean this is just you know she she really had wanted to stay under under the radar on this and then she finally decided like hey you know this guy is controlling the narrative and and i have to speak out i have to explain what's been going on because otherwise she was feeling like she was getting no support from from anybody because she didn't really want to go tell her friends and everything like that that this was all going on yeah so it's just it's a nightmare a nightmare but i really appreciate you guys yeah we'll put comments in there so they know okay officer granik was the guy who who uh contacted her the other night like okay yeah yeah so he will put comments in there with the address and then it'll come up in the history i'll go back and read through the comments so we'll try to do that to kind of help you guys out a little okay yeah no i really appreciate it anything no problem hey wait i've got something for you guys hang on one sec at the end of the video jan hands a candy bar to one of the officers he takes it and thanks jan i hope this isn't bribing bribing another welfare check happened a week earlier on december 4th 2023 and this time laura joins the conversation all right are you looking for laura laura's my daughter okay she here yeah what's going on uh she called the fbi and the fbi called us to come check and make sure she's okay she was reporting something to him but she was upset and sounded like she made some statements they just wanted to make sure she's okay oh was this was this a long time no this was supposedly this morning okay hang on a second can i just make sure i can see your car they said she's back here but she was going to come out where's your police car huh over there the police car i just we've had some really strange things where's your police car there's two of them sitting right here okay okay okay all right well come on here or um but she lives in the back in the little casita you want why don't you come on in okay yeah and sit down it's okay yeah she's she's had some uh real issues with um uh an ex-boyfriend who it is the most complicated bizarre story ever but uh well our may our may the only reason we're here is she evidently gave the fbi talk to them they just wanted us to swing by to make sure she's okay okay all right that's all we need one second let me just go gather this hang on hi hi there morning good morning did you contact the fbi this morning cyber crimes unit yeah um did you talk to somebody or no nobody contacted me i like just submitted it like an hour ago if it's the same thing she helped me with the the report um so the information we got was that you submitted something to the fbi it didn't say whether you talked to somebody on the phone or electronically like made it to the fbi i don't know if it's the same thing i don't know if it's the same thing online complaint yeah it said some something you said was borderline suicidal right that was from the guy that that was also from so the fbi called us to come check on you to make sure you're okay and yeah yeah yeah no that was like so you weren't were you talking about whatever you said were you talking about yourself or some yeah but it was like from a couple months ago she she was saying she's been targeted she's had a horrible situation with cyber harassment from an ex-boyfriend and from another guy who's obsessed with her yeah and she has 50 videos of me on youtube so and yeah she has she has simply asked him to stop she's filed a cease and desist asking him to stop and they're not they haven't stopped and so and so she she thought that that uh you know it needs to go to something else and she's been targeted and she's been targeted and she's been targeted in some kind of cyber crimes unit right she had said in there that the harassment i had well i can say it i had told the guy specifically that like creating these daily videos about me had made me feel borders borderline suicidal i was like last month i i messaged him and he continued to make videos about me but i'm fine and he's been like this guy has made like 40 50 50 yeah i mean it's just it's insane if somebody at the fbi actually saw your yeah right and saw that where it's like these videos making you suicidal and they're like right they're like oh we better call scottsdale make sure you're not actually gonna hurt yourself right no and you're not no i'm not you don't need any assistance from us or okay no i'm good no yeah unless you could get the guy to stop but i mean it's been it's been horrific absolutely sounds like somebody at the fbi got your plane so hopefully hopefully they do something yeah that's what i'm probably mom you're aware of everything going on right so you're here okay yeah i'm aware of everything that's going on no it's been it's been well and if three months and if you do start feeling like yeah you can always call us because we can get you help too oh no i really appreciate that i mean what would be great it's just for this guy to stop it's just very scary but it's just that he's he's just really tried to incite online online hatred of her and he he was she has protective orders against two prior boyfriends and one of them is is a real is a real stalker kind of a nut and has done every he he swore that he was going to ruin her life and he was able to hack into her computer he had her passwords he had all this kind of stuff and uh it's just he he did contact with this youtube guy and he's just tried to do uh you know just to ruin her to come out of it and he's just tried to do it and he's just tried to come up with all these fake stories this craziness and and posted online about her and so so you know she was finally thinking like if a cease and desist didn't work and she's trying to get a temporary restraining order against this guy um he lives in la first amendment yeah that's what makes it tough is you know different states exactly right right and that's why i figured i have to contact and he's claiming he's got a right to post up but he doesn't have a right to post lies but anyway but but so laura was saying well maybe you know he has violated these cyber stalking and cyber crime stuff this guy posted a map of uh to my house i have another house so he posted about yeah we have a yeah an airbnb he posted a thing showing how to get to our house with pictures of the house i mean he had that on his computer up in the background when he was posting one of these the other the other day so so laura was thinking you know maybe if we contacted the cyber crime cyber stalking unit that maybe that yeah i mean people have said like they hope i'm an organ donor because then something good would come from my pathetic existence like i'm a waste of skin like they've been because they're very mean so i'm hoping to sell this guy and you know yeah we we just you know because it's like uh where do we where do we even turn if they they won't respect the court system and and you know they've they've just tried to to do everything to to hurt us um to hurt you know the family too i mean they've it's just it's just been an absolute nightmare as long as you're 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