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Brandon, his hair is fucking fabulous. Donut, a dark joke disposition. And there's a fat electrician. Welcome to Unsubscribe. Hi. Oh, yeah, we got to start it. Ready? Oh, yeah. Ha ha! We'll do this one. Three, two, one. Cody's going to mess up your last name. I'm calling it. I'm not going to mess it up. Hey, everyone. Welcome to the Unsubscribe Podcast. I'm joined today by Eli Doubletap, Ethan Bernard, Brandon Herrera, myself, Donut Operator. Thank you so much for being here. Yesterday, I was like, what do I call you? He was like, as long as you don't mess up my last name. I was like, what is your last name? Now I am wrong. Bernard. Not Bernard. Not Bernard. I would have fucked that up. No, it's crazy, dude. It's even phones. When you type in my last name, most of them auto-correct it. It's ridiculous. I've got no excuse. I've seen your name spelled like eight times in the last 24 hours. I just wouldn't have picked it on or picked up on it. Well, I didn't learn this until a couple of years ago, but apparently Bernard is English and Bernard is French. I'm so sorry. I know. It's like, hey. We. Now, our homie, you've been a, you reached out to Cody first. This is ages ago when you just started your journey. 2023. Yep. Oh, shit. This is really. Did I reach out to you or did you reach out to me? I reached out to you. Okay. You, the first interaction we had was you did one of your plane AMAs. Okay. Spring of 23. I remember this. And this was in the middle of my five-year period of struggling with my weight. So this was like two years in. I had lost about 100 pounds and I tweeted at you on the plane. I was like, hey, I'm used to weigh this much. I currently weigh this much. And if I reach my weight goal, I'd love to come to a range day. And you were like, hell yeah. Let's do it. Nice. That was the first interaction we had. That was like almost, that was like fricking almost three years ago now. Yeah, it was a minute. And you've lost 260 pounds so far? 219. 200. That's man. So I was, yeah, I was 660 at my heaviest. And as of right before getting on the plane, I was like 440.5. God damn, dude, you lost me. Yeah. That's wild to think about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it was, the timeline was a little interesting. Because like 2020, 2020, 2021 is when I started trying to lose the weight. But over the course of four or five years, I lost 100 pounds and gained it back like four times. What would you attribute that to? Like why, if you were already making like the life changing decisions to like, to lose 100 pounds, because that's no small feat. Yeah. Losing 100 pounds is fucking crazy. Yeah. But like, how do you, how do you think that you got sucked back in and like just. Every time something happened in my life that was hard for me. Yeah. I didn't have the mental resilience to not let it, like make me go back to what I was doing. Right. So like I had, you know, some, I would go throughout the years, something bad would happen. And then instead of just like continuing to move forward, I would just fall back into my old ways. You know, there were, there were a couple of things like my friendship with Danny went through a rough spot. I got depressed, gained the weight back. My dog died. You know, that was my, one of my, my closest companions for 14 years. She ate a mushroom. I mean, ate it. No shit. Damn. Literally, just like out of the blue. And it's so weird because when I was in those relapses, subconsciously, I knew what I was doing. Like, dude, I told Eli, like, I think I literally ordered pizza the day my dog died. I just like it without skipping a beat. I went straight back into that old fat man shit that I used to do. I started doing really unhealthy shit again and I stopped weighing in. Yeah. So that's when I could tell internally, like you're going down the wrong path. It's funny. Well, maybe. Maybe funny is not the right word, but the, just the fact that you say that, uh, you like relapse, like treating it like a drug addiction, which is, it's an addiction. It is absolutely an addiction. Yeah. I've come to, I had to come to terms with that last year because even like with the social media stuff that's happened, those pages grew so fast and there's so many people watching the journey now, but even with that determination and that like amount of support that I have, I still sometimes find myself struggling with like really dumb ass food stuff. Like cravings or like wanting to eat stuff that I shouldn't and struggling to stay within a certain calorie count and stuff. Do you find it easier because there are so many eyeballs on you? Like you're like, it's like an accountability thing. Really? Oh no, it's the same old shit. I started the pages for that purpose, but then I quickly realized for the sake of my mental health, using social media for accountability is a horrible idea for me. Cause I'll even, most of my comments are positive. Like it's, it's a stark contrast from back when I was in the gym. I was in the streaming space, you know, but even with the, that insane amount of positivity, my mind will find the negative and like focus on it. So if I have a way in that didn't go as I expected or something, I'll see the negative and I'll just be like, really, it'll just be really bad. So I've recently put people in place in my life to kind of act as accountability for specific things. Like I have a guy that I literally send like my fitness pal screenshots to. Yeah. So it's like, Hey, this is what I had. This is what my fitness pal screenshots do. This is what my calories are. You know? So, so I have the accountability, but I don't feel like the, I don't like to use the social media as that because that just wrecked my mental. It's hard. Like I have training clients and I remember one client wouldn't stick to it, but my fitness pal is the one thing I'd make all my clients get and be like, Hey, I need this updated. And then once a week I went to see it and then we'll go through everything and I'll be able to tell if you follow it or not, just based off when you weigh in. And then my client, Wes would never like miss meals, eat too much snack, you book ball next time, ball next time. And then I was just tired of it. I was like, dude, I'm gonna fire you as a client. I just don't give a shit anymore. And you're not worth the time. You make me look bad, not worth it, homie. So you need to either fix this or get out and that's it. That dude got so pissed at me. He did not miss a scene. Oh, it. No shit. A little fire under. Yeah. Cause he wanted to prove me wrong. Well, if that's what it takes, dude, he hit first time you ever went under 200 in decade and he was just stuck at like two 30 to two 50 got under 200, one 99. He's like, sure. He's excited. And he looks at me. He's like, I'm not gonna lie. I was super mad at you. I was like, I noticed you would not talk to me for like, I was just running you through exercise, but your weight, you just knock out those weights. Like it was just coming off every week. I was like, dude, look at you though. Like you hit your goal. It just took me being a dick and holding you accountable. It's a hell of a drug. That's what I say. Let the hate flow through you. He's doing sets as he's next to you, you little piece of shit. He's just out here. You look out your blinds. He's just like doing curls in your front yard. But it happens. I'm glad you found that accountability. Is anyone else in friends or family? Do they ever be like, Hey, what are you doing? Like when I'm, when I'm doing something bad, I think, yeah, I think so. But I've, I've been pretty dialed in lately, like, cause I do, it's actually, it's kind of weird, man. Like I had a lot of times last year where I struggled, right? But then even when I'm having these periods where I'm not going off course and I'm staying on track, I have like residual guilt from the days that I did that makes it. So I have a hard time even like being happy that I did the right thing because I'll still feel bad about it. I have a hard time having done wrong in the past. I know that's, I mean, it doesn't make sense, but it's also kind of stupid. I mean, well, I mean, I think everybody would empathize with that when you apply it to literally anything else. Yeah. I've fucked up in the past. I still feel bad about it. You know? Yep. It's hard to move forward. That's like that breakthrough of trying to move forward or moving on. It's just, okay, I have taken accountability for that. I will now do better and I'm trying to not repeat the same mistakes and I'll do better this time. Yeah. That's the goal. That's just figuring it out and the best way to do that. Now what is your overall goal for weight loss total? has changed a lot so initially like i'm pretty tall so like my main goal was to just get under 300 pounds um last year my doctor told me when i have the skin removed it's gonna weigh between like 50 and 70 the skin itself skin holy shit because you know i'm a big ass guy you know i'm tall and i was super fat do you get to keep it no i don't know you're gonna make a lamp like this is texas chainsaw master some shit like fight out on one of those boards from doctor who did like fight club we'll scrape the fat off and make soap out of it and then sell it unsub soap oh unsub soap see we're a bit in soap company yeah yeah we can we can i'm sure if you found the right doctor you could fight you could make one of those really fucked up products that has like every piece of this is made with part of ethan's old use every piece of the buffalo what is this shadow box uh that's ethan's skin i gotta give you points for the doctor who reference by the way i did get that that's so good yep moisturize me it's back before the cgi was decent yeah dude that is wild 50 to 70 well that's the thing though because now i think about 300 i'm like there's no way i get down to 300 before skin surgery because that would mean i would be like 240 i honestly guys i don't know it'll be a long time before i weigh 240 i'm like i don't even that's not even like anywhere near my goal you know well you're also like a big dude like not just like size wise i'm like height you are a tall motherfucker wide shoulders and tall yeah so so i think af post skin surgery honestly if i stayed between like 250 and 270 i'd be happy like my goal main weight loss goal is to get under 300 but i don't know what the timeline on that looks like because the surgeries too with how much i have to do to get to 300 i don't know what the timeline on that looks like because the surgeries have to lose it's going to be split up into like four or five you know how much are they like how much is skin surgery i didn't i wasn't sure if it's like in a single i think it's a lot like 10 to 20 grand one of the guys that i know is doing he has a gofundme for his final one and his goal is like 30 so if he's he's had like four or five so or like this is like his fourth or fifth i think so i didn't realize they did multiple i thought it was well that's the thing like when you have as much to remove as i'm going to i think it's going to be like four or five i think it's going to be like it's just a bit too much of a shock on your body to have it all done at once because the recovery for those things is not easy you have like the wounds leaking and like it's just all over you're removing 70 pounds from a human body yeah you're going to have some well that's the it's going to be really weird man i think they literally do like the face and like the arms like i'm i've already got the freaking bat wings dude like they do the arms they do chest separate they do the arms separate they do belly separate then legs and back and all that are all like different procedures technically makes sense so that is uh what i'm going to refer to as the skin removal saga it's gonna be honestly i think it's going to be the most viral but it's also going to be the hardest part i've said we'll see if we keep this or whatever guys but that's the one thing i dm'd or text you about it's like we want to help you out and we want to help you out and we want to help with that even covering some of that bill for the skin removal i think that would yeah that's too easy i was like especially with what you're going through it motivates the out of everyone out there and us and then you put in the work not a month of work not two months or three months you put in at two years and you're a shining example too of the fact that like all these people that you know might be saying in their own head like hey i'm past the point of no return there's no coming back there's this this this fuck you yeah that's that's an excuse too far gone yeah because i know a lot of people get that way in their head and there's probably plenty of people watching that have just already given up you're like oh i'll never be there it's like no you there's never a point of no return yeah tell your dad well i was dude i would say your dad yeah that's a pretty good point of no return i've been in some pretty i've been in some pretty nasty places man i've been at that point where i didn't care if i lived or died right but like you know yeah no you know speaking side sidebar he didn't say it it's fine yeah throw it back my way why don't you no i was thinking about the edit the way that was going down and i'm like oh at least i wasn't in frame thanks cody speaking of veterans by the way uh i did a collab with zach when i was at his house yeah he had me hold up a sign i just said keep going forward and then a bunch of the comments were like i didn't know you were a veteran i'm like no i didn't take time to respond to most of them i think zach was doing it it's just like including you in the the forced valor saga no no no no dude that is amazing okay so we would love to cover a portion or help with that when you do hit that point of your goal because that means you put in the work that's an extra 140 pounds to go essentially yeah yeah so i think once i lose another hundred i'm gonna be getting at that point where i'm gonna start consulting with people you know because like coming out because when if i'm 340 you know minus 50 to 70 that puts me under 300 yeah i don't know if i'll be at the correct body fat percentage or where they want me to be for it but i'm just so curious i have so many questions because that's not something i've ever explored before is like the skin removal yeah like is that something that like not to get like crazy personal with it or anything but like the like stretch marks and things like that do those like do they have a way of like fixing that or i don't think that ever really goes away i think they just kind of make your you uh normal shaped well so they just kind of cut you up to make you normal shaped it's crazy have you have you seen how they do it though what they're going to do so they'll literally have me this all got this gone they just cut they will take a marker and they will draw a dotted line of like exactly where they're going to cut and then they will just cut it up and sew it you know every time i think like medicine has advanced so far we do have a lot of people who are like i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know they do some crazy like middle ages shit like that just like i don't know sharpie it up and slice it off yep it's like you see those videos of the people like the surgeons correcting like you know a car accident like somebody's got something like a hip displaced and they're using like a chisel oh they're putting a rod in someone's thigh no the range of the medical sledgehammer and just fucking yeah yeah the range is crazy because they have some surgeons who use like the robots and they're good like super like microscopic precision and then you have other surgeries that are just like you know drawing drawing on people with a sharpie yeah i'm very short well grandma here's the video it is an 80 pound sledgehammer missed once uh that's why they gave sorry about your balls that's why we're calling you grandma now oh no connor wait you do not have to overhaul your life to start hitting your investing needs no eli all you have to do is simply automate it with stash your new year money goals quietly run in the background while you focus on everything else everything that's important to you stash isn't just another investing app it's a registered investment advisor that combines automated investing with expert personalized guidance so you don't have to worry about gambling or figuring it out on your own god forbid stop staring at me investing shouldn't feel like a gamble no gambling to 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offers subject terms and conditions boom that's why we gave you a bunch of fent before the operation dude my grandma oma yeah had uh she had a surgery at one point that was uh you know like fairly invasive i i she was getting her like hip fixed or something like that and they they legit legitimately gave her fentanyl uh before the operation and she had an entire day where she was speaking to people like perfectly like you know cogent and everything talking to people didn't remember any of it that's just scary i've i've never been put under for for anything and i really don't want to did you cody have you been put under ever got my wisdom teeth taken out that's the only time it's wild it's like countdown yeah you fought you're in there awake instantly yeah you have a weird dream or two then you're just awake it feels like you just went like that oh dude the dream like when you say dream like like a normal like you go to sleep dream like kind of like your sleep in eight hours or like you just it felt like a couple seconds and then you pop awake that's the best way to explain it you're out and And then open when I had my colonoscopy and the mouth one. What? You got spit roasted by your doctor? Oh, yeah. Oh, 100%. The doctors, when they came in, they're like, we're doing this. I was like, you're using the same tube? They're like, no. I'm like, I'm fucking with you guys. I know. And it was mask or the shot, whatever, and they pushed it in. And then it was waking up, and that's that violent wake up. You have the wake up immediately? Yeah, there is no. This is kind of like getting choked out. Yeah, pretty much. Dude, I've never experienced it like that. Even when I remember my tonsil surgery, I remember explicitly having dreams and stuff while I was out. Mine was. And there was a long period of time between going under and then waking up. No, dude. I was out. For like two seconds, I was snowboarding. Yeah, it was weird. And I haven't snowboarded since I was like 16. And then I was back up. Wow. It felt like two seconds. And you grab the mask, put it back on. That was a sick ride. Just hit the nurse, grab the mask. Nurse almost got punched by me because they violently wake you up, too. Did they read your file? They were like, oh, man, I wish Sav was like, oh. She was like, wake up. It's time to wake up, Mr. Quavis. And I was like, boom. And I went like. I don't remember. And he was like, aimed at her. And I was like, did my butthole go on O.F.? I don't know why I said that. Sav said I like had something. That's what you said. It's because they were recording everything and they're handing me the papers. And I'm just like, uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah. Looking around. And then I finally came to what was going on. And I had papers on. I'm like, what the fuck's going on right now? They're like, OK, you got everything? I'm like, Sav, what? And she's like, you're good. I was like, OK, cool. Yep. 100%. Propel Fitness Water. With Gatorade Electrolytes, zero sugar, and vitamins. Propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self. What propels you? Propel with Gatorade Electrolytes. Walking out right afterwards. I remember my brother got his, I think he got his wisdom teeth removed or something like that. Like one of those where he got put under. And he was like one of those zombie states in the car ride home. And as soon as he got home, he's like, I want to play. I'm like, I want to play. And he's like, I want to play. You want like chicken and, avocado today yeah it's like i'm like no oil no bullshit yeah i don't because all those restaurants add so much just lard and fat and whatever else that's a terrible stuff and then for even praising him even more he was pacing and then we thought he was nervous or something yeah right before the podcast i was actually i'm not excited for this it was like hey you good i think connor was like hey you good he's like i'll get my steps in it's just walking back and forth it's like oh fuck yeah that was awesome and you got a box today for the first time that was fun yeah that's a good time put me in my place dude like stop that it's so it's like it's fun but i'm like oh my god like that'll really show you how fat you are if you try something like that well cardio it's hot yeah any sort of fighting period is very good for humbling yourself just jab we just worked on a one two and jabbing for three minutes straight and you're like oh this sucks i'm like yeah dude three that three minute round my heart was beating out of my freaking chest and he sparred a little bit too we got some sparring and light sparring and then me and brandon did a little heavier sparring we still did light sparring but that was a blast it was fun as i said you did the best you've ever done in a sparring session i was like homie is throwing fists at me i like still i mean it's a great reminder too like i said it's great for humbling yourself of how fast the cardio goes because me and you haven't been in the boxing gym in a couple months and so like that fight cardio goes away so fast and i'm like oh my god yeah it's aggressive that three minute round starts feeling like a 30 minute that second round me and you did about like halfway through i'm like i started just running away evasive maneuvers i it was i've made this joke before but it's like the the uh the stamina bar has gone to zero and it's starting to chip away at hp it's like oh no fuck it i'm like put your hands up keep your hands up throwing punches in slow motion it's like oh oh that i know that looked like shit stop recording the contrast between like the bag work and the sparring was wild yes like actually having to think about defense is crazy because like i was i was trying to just get the form with the punches right yeah and then we start you know he starts doing his like super super light baby sparring with me and i was like oh shit it was ridiculous man that's fun it's totally different when there's somebody there hitting you back oh yeah and i think we've i'm sure we've told this story but the first time that i told eli i was taking a fight he's like come to my house right now you sparred today yeah went to his house and he just the only thing he threw was jabs he just just one minute yeah of just being jabbed in the fucking head he's like get around my fist and he just kept jabbing me in the fucking face and like after like 30 seconds he's like get around my fist i'm like all right eli i'm done what how do i how do i get around that this isn't fun anymore i'm just getting hit in the head it's just the mortal combat sweep over and over and over this is stupid bullshit stop using that huh yeah stop using that move it's a jab jab jab jab jab but it is good seeing even you trying it a lot of people get nervous getting in the ring because it is sparring is terrifying if you've never done it yeah and then you don't know if they're going to swing for the fences or not and that's what i was like don't worry we're not i'm not blasting you don't even have a mouthpiece i'll like touch your head if i can show you where i'm going to hit you but just keep your hands up keep moving finding people who aren't mean spirited like everybody's just trying to learn you know yeah i appreciate the scalability of it you know like you like the way you did it with me today was probably perfect you got you burnt a lot of calories you didn't round up around you were like okay i'm just 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right now i've still just doing my streams man i didn't do last week it turns out when you get past 30 when you do that whole like crazy partying thing on new year's eve it takes like three or four days to get to recover from that a little longer to recharge yeah a little bit so i don't think we did much of anything last week but yeah i just started back to streaming i wanted to box with you guys but i really got to get some stream time in this week because i didn't do last week the stream still like doing good vys doing real good man i had a thousand concurrent viewers on this morning and then like 800 so had about 2 000 people in there that's awesome watching dumb people drink and get arrested 100 on kick into a thousand on twitch 800 on kick and a thousand on twitch and you made way more on cake yeah you make a little bit more from viewership yeah turns out when you don't have to pay lord bezos you're doing yeah right pretty decent oh man that's awesome and then we had the president get stolen yeah that was cool we have so much we haven't been i know right now this is like yeah there's a whole kidnapping in the middle of the night waking up and be like hey we have a text from brandon's like well i think we're at war or you did yeah because yeah show text the group chat the middle of the night because it was it was like 3 30 a.m i rolled over and i'm just like oh and i see her text she's like i think we're at war and it's the the video of like the apaches like shooting uh shooting at the anti-aircraft like blowing up the anti-aircraft defenses and i saw the text like 20 minutes later because i just rolled over and like opened it and uh i'm like no i think it's done and i sent back like that we captured the president of venezuela 35 minutes on ground wasn't it i was i think it was less that's wild yeah no u.s casualties either no and they had that new weapon system ethan talked about that but it's like their new weapon system and then the s300s yeah i think that's what they're called and they had 5 000 new systems in place and all i seen was like well those didn't work because they're flying very low in helicopters like uh what were they in uh chinooks i'm assuming uh i think we had apaches and maybe i don't know blackhawk chinooks something like that there's a couple different ones it was low yeah dude well it's the 160th they you know they were ones flying in nods and then they blew you know how they kicked it off they kicked it off off yeah they blew up the uh the museum that houses uh hugo chavez's grave that's how they started it i believe that oh i've been told that no that's a yep that's in my mind i feel like they extracted they're like you guys want to do something else real quick it's gonna be funny that's what we do there was a question mark that popped up and they're like except extra xp i i wonder if that was a sanctioned military target or the pilot just did a funny that's one hell of a choice to make on your own yeah it's one of those things i you can say what you will about like oh well we shouldn't have done it because x y and z you know these these these different things and like not all of those are necessarily invalid there's an argument to be made it's a hard one you what you cannot say is that it is not impressive you cannot say that it is not impressive that the united states s ranked an entire fucking country the biggest oil producer in the entire world that had the backing of russia china you know all these different you know world powers giving them anti-aircraft missiles whatever we go in we destroy their entire anti-aircraft defense system swoop their president while the entire world is asleep all of us found out about it in the morning it took us like fucking two hours whatever it was yeah maybe less like a lord like i think someone said you could have started a lord of the rings movie and walked out and be like what happened yeah that's what i said like if you started the the finale of stranger things by the time you were done we were out of Venezuela with the president. I read somewhere on a couple of these military Twitters, and I hope it's true because it sounds super cool, that at an undisclosed location somewhere in the United States, they had built his palace with the exact materials that the palace is made of, including the safe room that he has so that the Delta guys and all the CAG dudes could go in and figure out how to get in the quickest, grab him, and get out. Because we had people on the inside. Yeah. I guarantee you that was – because I know they did that for the Osama raid. They reconstructed what they thought the layout was, and then they would just run it, run it, run it. All right. I'm throwing a Hail Mary here, but this is very funny. We start talking shit about like a world leader or something, like getting into a shit fit, whether it's China, Russia, Cuba, Colombia, Timbuktu, whoever. All of a sudden, we just leak intel to them that somewhere in Arizona, we don't know. We built a repro of their house, and we were doing Delta raids on that repro of their house. It's like, just so you know, maybe you should stop talking shit. I mean, think of how many dictators woke up that next day and were like, uh-oh. Because that is the – so they have 27 to 29 million people, and then they were ranked 50th out of the 145 countries in military power, and we S-ranked them without a single casualty. Zero. Zero casualties on our side. That's wild to be able to do as a military power, and it's one of those. It's like, oh, well, U.S. or China, like, they're neck and neck. It's like, I don't think you know how much we spend on military budget, and we love to fight for some reason. They love going to war. Really good at it at this point in U.S. history, and that is a perfect example how good we are at. And that's the other. It's, you know, if you look at the comparison, because I don't like being involved in foreign entanglements. I don't think we should be the world's police. There's a lot of things that I disagree with in having an invasive foreign policy. At the same time, if we're going to do it, instead of a 20-year forever war where we kill a million civilians, we have thousands of American soldiers dead, and we're, you know, dicking around for trillions of dollars, in and out in two hours, capture the king, I'm down. Like, if that's the way we're going to do it, I think it's vastly superior to what we've been doing. That is pretty crazy. I don't think it's war. That's the one thing. It's like, it doesn't fit. I don't consider that war. That is just a movie. Like, you're in, you're out. There was no casualties on our side. And it is the hard one because it is, as you were saying, A, well, we overstepped our bounds, but then it is, what's a bound on something bad? Do you just sit back? North Korea, we don't do anything with that. There's slavery, like, generalization. Rational slavery, concentration camps, everything. Nothing happens. So what's the line? You just sit back and do nothing the entire time? Or is that one where it's like, hey, this is a dictator. Other people in the past was like, oh, we got to do something. I think it's not even just the human rights thing. Cause like there's not, again, not to get too into the politics of it, but the argument on one side is that it's not just that they were a socialistic dictatorship, but also the fact that when they took power, they seized tens of billions of dollars worth of American assets, things that American companies paid money for, to put there, to be able to allow them to use their oil, to the extent that they are, we invested there. And as soon as they took power, they, they seized those. So they stole from Americans. And so like, all right, well, that's, you're going to do that on top of talking shit and saying like, oh, we're going to retaliate. We're going to do this. It's like, well, maybe learn your place. No, you're not going to learn your place. Did you do anything on that one? I haven't done anything on it. No. I mean, we were in the skit. We did, we did that skit. That was, that was pretty funny. I was like, I haven't got to watch that. I just watched the intro though. You, because I think you clipped just the intro of it. Oh yeah. I was like, oh, this is dope. That was what we had the idea that night. We're like, all right, this is pretty funny. We're knocking this out. We're knocking this. Ethan's like, I can't, I don't know if I'm allowed to talk about this. I've been, I've been very conservative. I'm conservative on the way I don't speak about anything like this. So I'm not opposed to talking about it, but I'm just like, you know, not pissing people off for no reason. Yeah. You know, this, this time around, uh, cause I was different back when I was a streamer, but this time around, I'm just kind of like the more people that my videos reach, the more people it helps and the better I do. So I just try to stay in my lane. You know, I, I. Even, even my faith, I'm pretty like tactful in how I speak about it. Yeah. Cause I don't want to alienate anyone. And there's a difference between rejecting your faith and also like just not choosing to be very aggressively outspoken about it. That's the thing, man. Cause like I give God glory for everything that's happening in my life and I'm not afraid to say that, but I will never like shove people, shove Jesus or scripture down people's throats. Yeah. Or push people away. Yeah. Cause that's when you like, if you were like, you guys are going to go to hell. If you don't accept Jesus as your savior, that is like the dumbest possible way to convince people that that's something that they should pursue. I mean, you don't want to picket military funerals. So I'm like, you know, I, I find this stuff interesting. That whole Venezuela thing was wild, but I just like, I don't know what to say about it. Yeah. Cause like there's a lot. It's out of my wheelhouse, dude. Cause your message really does like inspire people no matter, you know, it doesn't matter what walk of life you come from, laugh, write, you know, what, what, what have you, your, your message is really, really fucking cool. Like you can make a difference in, in your life. And then when they lose that weight and for guys, you know, they, maybe they jump on TRT, they start lifting weights, they feel good about themselves and then they become a conservative. Propel Fitness Water with Gatorade Electrolytes, zero sugar and vitamins. What propels you? Many, many such people. It was right there. I'm sorry. It was just, it was, that was low hanging fruit. Many such cases. I'm sure. Pull a Zuckerberg. Dude. I know. He started fighting and lifting. You're like, Oh, homeboy's fully into this world. Wearing puka shell necklaces all of a sudden. Oh man. Now you get a, you actually are sponsored by Jocko and you work with that in the military space. Cause I consider him. Oh yeah. They're very heavily ingrained in that. And it was actually really cool. That was before you blew up. You like. No, I was gonna say that, that raid on visibility was sponsored by Jocko too. We were talking about that earlier. The origin hoodie, dude. It's legendary. Marketing win of the century. I swear to God. I thought that was Photoshopped when I saw it. Like for those of you who missed it when they captured Maduro and brought him back to the States. Someone, I don't even think Jocko knows who it is. Someone in the military knows who it is. 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breathable and stands out in a good way give poncho a try go to ponchooutdoors.com unsub and get ten dollars off your first order that's p-o-n-c-h-o outdoors.com unsub oh man and they jocko actually sponsored you before you blew up right yeah it was crazy so like i i used to be a full-time twitch partner uh back in back in my heyday dude he was getting like 1200 viewers a thousand viewers on twitch in the valorant category on those valorant yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah god i hate that game now but but i i you know i say that like i had years of experience of like on camera talking having a good time like i've always felt at home on camera you seem very comfortable i love it dude this is i enter like a flow state when i have so you're flowing really well yeah so you know i had that experience and then i was hospitalized i don't want to really get into that again i've talked a lot about it this week but i was hospitalized for 60 days um but dude i lost everything in that hospitalization but you know i spent so i spent a few years at home after the hospital recovering and just being miserable if you don't mind just for the the sake of the people who don't know about it what like if you don't mind talking about what what were you hospitalized for yeah so i was hospitalized for 60 days in 2021 uh from mainly covid but when i got covid i also got a bacterial pneumonia yeah on my lungs so it it is a hundred percent god that i'm still here man like i i was on a ventilator for 10 days so you're talking at a time where 99 of covid patients who were put on the vent died a 600 pound dude lived it was crazy yeah not to get too into it i just figured no it's it's fine i know i tried probably shouldn't have skipped over it as quickly as i did but almost died fast forward yeah and i can imagine why that's not fun to talk about you know i came off the ventilator uh with a stage four pressure wound and a nerve injury that up the entire right side of my body so i came off there in significantly worse health than i was before going on to it well what's i think the crazy part for that story is you had 1200 viewers it was like one of your best streams you just got partnered and then you just fell off the face of the planet literally he but he doesn't remember two days i don't remember two weeks hmm you should have streamed it he got his partner apparently he did he got the partnership he's like partnered made it and then i thought partnered posted the screenshot of the email and then i fell off the face of the planet yeah well i mean you you know how it is too you stream you you leave the stream for a week your viewership just plummets yeah so i can imagine for as long as you were like how how many days until you woke up though it was like two days three days oh no no it was dude it was i don't remember the three days prior to the hospital or the like 11 days on the vent so it was almost two weeks because you were at home and i remember the evening getting the partner email and tweeting it out and then that's the last thing i remember before waking up in the icu two weeks later dude oh you're a fresh partner too damn yep dude yeah like i would go cody knows if you have done twitch especially at that time 2020 2021 21 yeah it is and then you have to be active there is no time off for streaming that's why it's one of the roughest career choices because you cannot take vacations there is just zero you are working six days a week minimum and no time off or you will kill your viewers especially trying to make partner too you you're having to stream like almost every single day oh yeah i was in that 50 to 100 viewer area applying over and over and over for like a year before before getting it and then you did the thing and then it was your mom dad that called oh yeah dude so like i was apparently just like sitting on the couch my oxygen was so low that i was like semi-unresponsive uh so i think they just called 9-1-1 but you know i was so big at the time you know i'm still big but i was so fat at the time they literally had i think the fire department got me out of the house because we have one of those bi-levels so you actually have to go up the stairs to get into the house so they brought in like a freaking machine brought me down the stairs got me onto the ambulance and then the whole hospital thing happened damn and then now with that that too like because it took two days for your parents to be like oh because you said you were still doing stuff you just don't remember it yeah i was just staying at home apparently like i was literally i was eating like i was just sitting at home like sleeping all day and i don't remember any of it damn i made two be fair i think a part of that is the meds that they put you on on the vent they probably give you some crazy when you get put on the ventilator so i'm wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of like memory loss component to that but that's still wild god i fixed the ac and now it's actually chilling in here because that's why i had you i was surprised like i've been roasting this last day dude well i went up i was like man it's fucking hot right now i need to go that's what that upstairs i was getting this compressor and i was blowing out the ac pipes and now i'm like oh it's cold as fucking ever nice i'm like damn damn dude that's still wild to go through that is just and we talked about it but it is that the hardest part was you were at the top you just got part and you did a 1200 viewers yeah like 1300 viewers because it was a it was a part of one of those crater events where reich gave us early access to one of the new maps oh yeah so i was one of like 10 people streaming the new map at the time you know valorant was freaking popping back then and so and then yeah and over a thousand viewers too that's really good money bro that's wild yeah dude i was i was a moron back then like i was only focused on the gaming i didn't have any sort of business mind i was literally renting an office to stream but i was still like i had no merch i had no sponsors i wasn't doing anything i was made i made like i was making like six or seven grand on twitch that that point though yeah only for a few months because it popped off after i created tiktok but yeah that that whole time my life was crazy but it's crazy because that experience i had from that streaming you know when i got back up to 624 and i started losing the weight again last may um i decided that i was i was thinking like contemplating making videos again and getting into that space and i wasn't sure about it and i had a dinner with a couple friends of mine from church and they convinced me to do it and dude like the first week it was like 10 million views and 17 000 followers on instagram oh and i was like holy shit like i knew from the past like with everything that i had done prior on socials i was like all right i i know what to do with this so i took that momentum and i just freaking ran you know but the jaco partnership dude like i made a video to them a week in when i was at 17 000 followers and i i was like hey i've been using your guys products i want to work with you and i sent him a dm and i'm like if i made like this whole two paragraphs but i'm like if you guys work with me you will make money yeah that's what i said uh they didn't respond yeah they didn't respond initially but then a week later i made a video using their creatine or something uh and then they follow me back and i got a dm and i was at 40 000 followers first time i had a meeting with the team and two weeks later when i signed the contract i was at 100 000 yeah that's a good i'd be like we should sign him now that's not a not a bad growth trajectory i would think it's ridiculous man like i think last year we had three like over 700 million real views and then over 1.3 million new followers across socials it was a super awesome hearing oh the one thing you did was you were cutting everything even when you were streaming you were cutting everything into clips real socials oh and you do it all yourself yeah when i was streaming i literally like i had the stream deck set up and i had a little program in obs that automatically cropped it to like the tiktok format oh no shit so i would just like press a button and it would save it i would just post like four or five times a day on tiktok but i started a tiktok in 2021 and it went from zero to a hundred thousand in two months that's how my stream grew but I didn't expect the conversion because I see a lot of creators on TikTok that have a lot of followers, but don't have a lot of Twitch viewers. But whatever it was about those clips, man, it was getting people to come over. TikTok's one of those weird platforms where followers don't matter. It seems like where it's like you've got somebody who's got a million subscribers on YouTube and you see the views and everything. You're like, okay, cool. I understand. TikTok's like, oh, I have 40 billion followers. And it's like, yeah, okay, well, promote this t-shirt. You get four sales. It's just so much drive by viewership, I think. And it sounds like I'm just shitting on the platform because I don't like it. No, I don't like it either. They still owe me money. We all are very old when it comes. We don't use TikTok. Thank God we have Sho and Sav that can figure that shit out. The whammon. The whammon know TikTok. Yeah, the whammon. The big whammon. The biggest thing that drives me crazy is the amount of, and I think it's like a Gen Z female thing for the most part. Maybe not even Gen Z, like millennial, but just how many people get their news from TikTok? Oh, I found this out from TikTok or this from TikTok. So some random guy with an iPhone in his kitchen, which I understand, that's how a lot of us get a lot of our information nowadays, but you at least vet the source. Some of these people just open gullet, absorb Rando's information. Because this shit is just. Some of the shit that I've heard, like, oh, I saw it on TikTok. It's retarded. Yeah. Genuinely retarded. The sovereign citizen thing is picking back up because there's a lot of people going around TikTok saying you don't have to get out of your car for police, which, of course, the case law of Pennsylvania versus MIMS says you have to get out of your car. And there's people like sovereign citizens on there teaching people on TikTok. You don't have to have a license plate. This is. You're not in commerce. You're just traveling and all that shit that sovereign citizens say. This is my vessel. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if you can literally just check. Just Google it. Google it. Yeah. Yeah. And then, like, no. And then you get to watch them try to film them owning a police officer or a judge, whatever. Oh, yeah. If you actually. No. They usually cut right before the window gets broken. Yeah. Which, I mean, they're making me tons of money. It's awesome. You love sovereign citizens. I love sovereign citizens. The first half of that video, you go to TikTok. For the second half, you go to Cody's channel. Bro, there's been a lot of instances within the past year that I'm loving, and it's an old-school police thing where they grab the top of the window because people will crack it, and they'll just pull the window out. Have you ever seen that? Oh, yeah. That's fucking awesome, man. There's been so many videos coming out lately of that. It's like, yes, another window pull. This is awesome. It's not that hard, and it's not. Like, you do, and I hate you get hate for it, so I go bootlicker. I'm like, homie will call out bad police action any day of the week, and it's not. No. No, he doesn't. It's like, no, I assure you. Squirrel Cop's a great fucking video on that. Yeah. Like, any of the bad ones where you're like, this is. No. So you don't shit on them, but also. There's several bad shoots that you've gotten shit for. Yeah. Like, just you're like, oh, why aren't you backing the cops? It's like, well, no, you just do what you think is right, God forbid. It's a crazy concept nowadays. And that is the problem with it. It is. You try to hold the people accountable for it, and then now you're reacting to it. But both sides. Also, just fucking. Hey, here's my license. Here's. I've been pulled over with a shit ton of guns, and I am not a dude that looks like. I would draw a gun on me, you know, like, walking around a corner and seeing a bunch of guns. I'd be like, hmm. I've had guns drawn on me for that. Yeah. It's not great, typically. You've been called boy. Oh, yeah. No, straight up. On multiple occasions. Well, and I usually. I instigate it, because I, like, got pulled over doing, like, 20 over or whatever the fuck it was, and I've gotten machine guns in the back. So, understandably, like, I could see where this is problematic. Yeah. But I. My. The thing that always gets me about those is the passive aggressiveness of you get pulled over. Like, normally, it's. You're swerving, you're drunk, you're, you know, speeding like crazy in all these, like, different, like, body cam videos, and they only roll down their window, like, an inch. Yeah. Oh, what? That's the most passive aggressive shit you could do to a cop ever. Like. As a police officer, if I were a cop, that would just annoy the shit out of me right out the gate. Yeah. Yeah, it's not the nicest thing. All you gotta do is be courteous, and you usually get a warning. Dude, that's what I pull no matter what. The first thing I do, roll down all windows, put my hands on the steering wheel, and then turn the lights on. So, when they approach, it's like, oh, homeboy's doing everything in his power to show it's like, hey, dude, like, we're good. Like, here, look away. I don't want you to feel uncomfortable about. About this. Especially if I have guns in the back. Whatever it is. Like, make this as peaceful as possible. You should do. It's like, you're lucky I didn't run. Yeah. That would be very funny. I would actually laugh at the police officer and be like, you're getting a warning for that one. I like that. Have you ever woke up and felt like your mattress punched you in your sleep? I still think it was my wife, but yeah. Eli, do you have the mattress? Right here. A pillow? No, that's an Eli-sized mattress. Exactly. Eli, can I fill the pillow? Of course. It's so soft. GhostBed just launched their brand new mattress line. 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Sleep better, stay cooler, or Cody's going to- I'll eat your ass. GhostBed.com. I got pulled over. Speaking of that, I got pulled over by a Georgia, I think it was a Georgia state trooper, like fucking three o'clock in the morning. I was traveling like state to state, and I was probably, I was speeding. There's nobody on the fucking highway. Got pulled by a cop. Pull over, roll down all my windows, and I'm like 10 and two on the steering. Because I do have a gun, because I always have a gun. He comes to the driver's side window, and I was like, hey, you know, how's it going, sir? I'm like, how's it going, officer? Just so you know, like I do have a gun. I'm carrying appendix. It's on my front right side, whatever. He's like, yeah, he's an older guy. He's like, I figured you were, sir. He's like, oh, the way you have your hands glued to the steering wheel, I figured you had to have had a gun. He pulled the traditional cop line. Well, I'll tell you, I'll cut you a deal. You don't touch yours. I won't touch mine. Yes, sir. That sounds very fair. It's super simple. Just do that. I know I had a shirt over a gun. He's like, can you get your driver? I was like, I would get my insurance and everything, but there was a gun in that seat. I will let you grab that first if you're okay with that. And he's like, yeah, okay, thank you. Lifts the shirt, grabs a gun. Can't figure out how to clear it because the safety's on. And he's like, I don't know. And he's like, I was like, you want me to clear it for you? He's like, can you? I was like, yeah. I took the gun, cleared it for him, handed it to him. He's like, I have to run this to make sure it's not stolen. I don't think you do. As a cop, you don't have to. That sounds really weird. I did have a bunch of guns in the back, and then because it was covered and I didn't have my concealed Texas. That'll do it. Yeah. And he pointed out, that's why. Back before he had constitutional carry. And I had a lot of respect. He's like, hey, just so you know, next time put it in. A glove compartment, then you can't get in trouble for concealed carry. He's like, because it was here with a shirt over it, that's concealed. And if it was a dickhead cop, he's like, you would have got a felony for that. I was like, dude, thank you so much for that. I appreciate it. Glove compartment, glove box, an extension of your home at that point. In some states. And that's why I was like, don't quote me in all states. If you're in Illinois, don't try it. Don't try it. That's a good rule of thumb for a lot of stuff in that state. Yeah. But super thankful all that unfolded. That way. But I did, when he's like, run the security. I was like, I mean, you can, but the serial number on that gun is literally my name. Like, what? It's like, it's a custom built one. Eli 69 420. Yep. See, he knew it. Called it. Came back. He was like, handed everything. He's like, hey, yeah, just slow down next time. You're good to go. So don't put the gun in the actual glove compartment. And then release before you constitutional carry now in Texas, because a lot of times I'll, you know, take off and put it in the glove when you're reaching for your license to hand it. Right. He's a super quick wallet shirt when you have to get your wallet to the officer faster, you can get out of the car and sprint at him pulling your wallet out. So you save him time. You know, he doesn't have to unsubbed tips. It's a good advice to make sure you get that wallet real quick. Officer. You don't want to waste all this time. He's had a hard day. Cops are really busy. don't waste the cop's time dude but the way i normally do it is you know because a lot of times i keep like my registration and insurance and everything in center console with usually a gun if i've like taken off because you know if you're driving a long ways you don't want to keep a fucking gun in your waistband i i normally just like ask the cop what they would prefer just like oh can i see your you know registration like my registration is in my glove compartment i also have a handgun in there like my carry gun um you know i'm an ffl all this sort of stuff what i'll say how would you like to proceed do you still want me to get it how do you want to do this and usually if you put the ball back in their court they're super comfortable yeah yeah of course that's the way it's a female cop she'll just shoot you yeah that that will happen joking that was a joke i remember i'm sure we've told this story on the podcast before but that one time we were leaving a brunch on like the north side or something um propel fitness water with gatorade electrolytes zero sugar and vitamins propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self what propels you propel with gatorade electrolytes you were in my passenger seat and we i got pulled over because my registration was out you know fair enough female cop rolls up and i just hear cody like oh we're gonna die my windows are already rolled down like what did you say next cody she goes back to her car to go like run my stuff i'm like whatever fair enough you're like i think i'm just gonna get out of the car sprint to the tree line and then put my hands over my head and see what she does i just love to cut you're just causing chaos i'm just like actively sweating i'm like please don't do it this is gonna be a very simple interaction sober cody drunk cody it's like you're the wild guard we're like i don't know if he's joking you buckle him in he unbuckles himself i'm like no no no put that back were you ruining my fun brand this is bullshit it's like rolling a 20 20-sided dice like oh well let's see how this goes now it's 20 anarchy you roll below a five i need to find new best friend welcome to the podcast oh dude i'm having a great time man i'm not nearly as well versed as you guys are on any of this stuff so i'm just here for the ride dude we're all just here for the ride man yeah you just laughed and having a good time damn it i was gonna please what was the one thing that hit my brain and then disappeared fitness challenge numbers no something else i'm still curious about those results so is the subreddit well that's what we're doing on this that's this episode yeah oh okay cool we're doing an announcement for everything at the beginning of this one so it'll be slated right at the beginning because hell yeah we figured this would be the perfect send off for that it's like hey look like we have you on we want to do all the announcements motivate everyone be like hey and then also being able to talk to you and then those individuals hey if you want to know if you want or not here you go but also watch the episode they get more motivated because a lot of people have stayed on track months afterwards and you get a few posts about them saying like i kept the journey going who else did and then all the responses for that which that was always the goal like that's that's fucking awesome see people like not just for like a quick little stint for social media but people actually make making life changes like that's super inspiring to see it's hard yeah like it it is not easy to actually put in the effort you're you're down 30 pounds yeah yeah i was 207 to 177 do check where show did show disappear show's gone oh she's upstairs like show has a lot i was like what the fuck even this morning it was like what the fuck like i don't know how much she's lost she looks fantastic she's crushing it her and dave are killing it and they're that's awesome eating right eating right's the hardest part you've got a lot of people that are you've discussed that oh yeah this sucks but it's not that bad it sucks how much of it is all food that's the most frustrating part about it like uh i i i talk about this quite often like i'm in a position with how big i am that there's no amount of effort that i could put in on any given day to wake up tomorrow and not have to deal with this body that sucks dude even if i fasted you know like even if you deprived yourself of all food i would still wake up tomorrow 400 plus pound guy and i did still have to deal with all the negative repercussions of being that size and then when you're like i don't know i think a lot of big people deal with the food addiction whether they've accepted it or not you know so when you deal with that constantly too it sucks so much worse when you realize that the diet and like the calorie deficit is literally like 90 percent of weight loss and the the crazier part too that we were talking about a little earlier if you're okay to talk about is the the fact that you said like you don't even drink like you don't drink and you don't uh like you don't drink soda right like i've met a lot of people grow up on soda and i never yeah like this is this is probably like the eighth drink i've ever had and this is probably the strongest one ever yeah you know five percent yeah the so well because the other crazy part being like i know a lot of people that have really struggled with weight but like these are also guys like they like got really big but i also like i have unironically seen people that are like a very large size drinking out of a two liter of mountain dew like as if it as as if it is a personal soda it's like oh yeah well no shit like that's so much sugar so many calories but for you was it was no alcohol no soda none of that just food yeah and you know the crazy thing dude i was 660 pounds of my heaviest and i was never diabetic no shit that's wild to me like even to think about that that's freaking nuts god you need pre-diabetic at my worst you need me at our friend jay wolf if you want a mammoth of a man it's a big boy the yeah the biggest of boy kindest human seven foot plus wow what how tall is he seven two now i think he's i think he's seven two he's a seven two now like as if he's a growing boy still i don't know man you never know he might he is because he's six is he six hundred he's it's like five hundred or 480 shit and he is a big but he is also like when you go to hug him we have a photo of him lifting rich up like a baby on stage like he's like this rich is not a small man no it's like just this the dude's just so big wow he is on a fitness journey too we want him to go like super into it because he would be seven foot two yeah dude well see my personal goal is just to kidnap jay wolf and uh put him on a mixture of uh ozempic and tren like tren acetate oh shit and just like kind of like 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Visit cashapp.com slash legal slash podcast for full disclosure. So what is your overall goals once you hit your weight goal for skin reduction, and then you hit your actual personal goal, what's next? Is it getting as strong as fuck athletic? Like, what is the overall idea for it? I don't really care that much, man. Like, my main goal is to just be able to see what a normal life is like. Because I've never had that. I was 200 pounds by the age of nine. So I've been tall and super fat my whole life, and I've never known what it's like to be normal. And that's pretty much what I'm aiming for. 200 pounds by the age of nine. Yeah. How tall were you back then? I have no idea. But I was always, like, by a few inches the tallest kid in class. Yeah. So. Damn. Did your teachers ever try to get you into football constantly? Oh, yeah. Yeah. That whole teenage years. Every frickin' day someone would come up to me and be like, can you play football? We got an idea for you. Here, taste crap. I played tennis in middle school. No shit. Yeah. Really? No shit. I was still thinking of, like, football, you being the super offensive lineman. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly. Brushing kids. Just plowing through them, dude. They were kids. Nine years aren't stopping you at 200 pounds. There's offense. I just have a line of bodies. There's defense, offense, punishment. Just a path of the kid. No, I probably could have just been a wrecking ball. Yeah. At that point. I think that's why they were trying to recruit you. Yeah. Just crushed nine-year-olds leading to the quarterback. Oh, we're just replacing them so fast. When? Okay. So, do you have any, you did boxing, you did that, and you're just like, oh, I don't care. Is there any, like, strength goals that you're trying to hit? Oh, dude. I don't know. I've talked to you about this earlier this week. Like, the gym has been hard for me lately. Like, for the past couple months, I've mentally, the gym has felt more like a chore than it has felt. Like, something I actually wanted to do. And when you get to that spot with working out, it's bad. Like, when you get to the point where it's, like, something that you feel like you have to do as opposed to something that you want to do, it's rough. Has that impacted how often you go? Oh, dude, I haven't been in a month. It was just horrible. But, you know, at the same time, I was, like, thinking back to, like, when I was losing weight the fastest and what was the most sustainable for me, and it was just getting the 10,000 steps a day and eating. So, I don't want to give up the gym. That wasn't, like, the plan to just stop going. But, like, with the holidays and traveling and stuff. Yeah. You know, I look back at the calendar, and now it's, like, the beginning of December is the last time me and Danny were there. So. And, I mean, realistically, for weight loss, lifting weights, like, especially for men, like, is not the way to do it. Like, lifting weights is good to, like, build your frame and, like, build muscle, which, like, every guy wants. That's obviously the goal. But it's shockingly low when you look at it. But compare it to other things, like calorie burn per hour. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's very low. You don't do it for the calorie burn. And it's, like, a lot of, some people make the argument, they're, like, oh, well, if you replace the muscle or you replace the fat with muscle, it'll burn calories more. But, like, a lot of people don't understand this, but fat burns calories, too. Like, I know that sounds stupid, but it does. Like, there's a reason I burn as many calories as I do. It's because of how big I am. Or just having to carry around the weight. Yeah. Like, the literal. Like, the mass will just, like, make you burn more. If I'm walking around with 200 extra pounds, that's, like, squatting weight and workout. That's gonna, I'm, I'm, yeah. That's a workout, motherfucker. Not to be too crass about it, but, like, you're basically always rucking. Oh, for sure. If you think about it that way. Yeah, one of the guys I met in Orlando, he was, like, you're basically, every time you get up or do anything, you're resistance training. Yeah. I'm, like, yeah, I just, it sounds stupid, but he's not wrong, you know? Hmm. 100%. That's a, it's. But, you know, I would, I wouldn't mind, like, continuing to push the weights and eventually doing, like, maybe just strongman stuff for fun. I would never, ever care less about doing any of it, even semi-professionally. I'm gonna throw, Danny, what, what, make him go to the gym. When you don't want, so both of you will have that problem where it's like, I don't want to go to the gym, I don't want to go to the gym. He had, he actually has his own gym schedule now. He's just doing his own thing. Oh, man. Make him go to the gym. All of our friends. Make him go. Fucking. Yeah. I was actually convincing him not to go. No, don't do that. Fucking drag him. That's horrible. Me and Brandon, like, I text Brandon, I'm like, hey, you want to gym? Want to gym? 930. And there's a lot of times that I wouldn't have gone. I'm just like, oh, fuck, yeah, sure. Now, the day after New Year's, I text Brandon, he's like, no, I am hurting tomorrow. I text him that day. He's like, not gonna lie, I drank again. Yeah. I need another day of recovery. Not gonna lie. I recovered from New Year's. I recovered from New Year's too well. It's like, okay, I'll go to the gym. I'm not getting out. Yeah. But other than that, we normally keep ourselves in check pretty well. Just like, all right, gym tomorrow? Yep. Go do it. Just force him. Well, no. So, like, the mental aspect of it, man, like, you got to realize, like, with the nerve injury and everything, like, I told you earlier at the boxing gym, like, I am a 440-pound man who benches 125. But, and like I told you in the boxing gym, and again, tell me if there's anything that's too personal here, but like. No, it's all fine. No, it's all fine. The doctors told you that, like, you would never be able to have that mobility again. Yeah, they were. So, you were supposed to be able to bench zero pounds for the rest of your life. So, small victories, 125 pounds, when the doctors told you that was impossible is f***ing incredible. Yeah, they, yeah, the nerve stuff is so stupid because they're so uncertain about it. They're like, we can't tell you if you'll ever be able to lift your arm again. Yeah. And injuries are scary. Brandon got to watch my bench just f***ing. Yeah. Deteriorate for a month. And I've never had the itis, like. Like, miniscule tear on my shoulder. Mm-hmm. But when I was struggling to do push-ups all of a sudden, I was like, that's weird. I can't do push-ups. And 135 pounds was a lot to me. And that was a drop of like 150 pounds from my normal. I was like, what the f*** is going on? Dude, I literally failed 135 in Philly. I did a Philly trip with my trainer and the Jocko team, and on the final day, we tried to push, like, plates for the fight. Yeah. For the first time. Like, 45 on each side. And I just could not do it. Like, I did, like, five reps of 125, which was a PR for me. But 135, dude, that's like my cutoff. Which feel, you know, feels crazy. I know this is all in my head, but, like, I feel really weird going into the gym as the fat guy to begin with, right? Let alone the fat guy who is bringing his little phone in on a tripod, and then let alone the. Also being as big as I am, and also, like, lifting as little as I do. Like, I know it's all, like, I know none of that should matter. It's all in my head. Because I just, like, you'll. For me, it is watching somebody like that, you do that, that motivates the f*** out of me, because I don't think, what a dumb s***. I think, that dude's f***ing trying. Hell yes. Yeah. You don't look at that and you think, gross. You know, like, you see somebody big in the gym. That's how I look at myself a lot. So, like, I do kind of look at it like that, but I know that's all me. But you're worried about what other people think. And I can honestly tell you that, like, in the gym, these are all people that have taken a step to better themselves, because they are there. And at least I know, me and, like, a lot of the people that I know, like, our mindset when we get there is, you see somebody like that, and you're like, f*** yeah. That guy got off the couch. Like, that guy's taking steps. He's doing s***. Like, that's f***ing cool. Like, I think. I think that that's, again, it's motivating. That's all it is. And that's where you should go. And especially with that mindset, it's like, you're beating yourself up. Instead, when you go to the gym and you're doing that, think of, oh, one person, one idiot might think that. I guarantee everyone else is thinking, holy s***, that is dope. If that one guy who's like, look at that piece of s***, if that guy voiced that, he would get the f*** out of me. The f*** bullied out of him by everybody in that gym. Because it's like, that's like the one thing you don't do. And if somebody's trying to better themselves to put them down for that, f*** you. You get to see that now on social media. It's like, anyone that tries to bully an individual getting in shape, they might be big, they might be overweight, fat, whatever it is, but they're in the gym doing it. And then you see, like, girls are like, huh, look at this. And you get to see those girls. That's when old Joey Swole swoops in. Oh, yeah. Makes a fool out of him. Makes a fool out of everyone. I love that s***. Yep. Because then, as everyone says, it is motivating. That's, you have to have that motivation. mindset of going in and be like i'm i'm doing this for myself but also anyone that's watching or somebody that's hesitant of going into the gym or self-aware or embarrassed they're going to self-conscious yeah self-conscious yeah like self-conscious it is what you're saying it is you are that uh motivating factor because then they get a look at you and be like oh he's doing it okay i'll go do the same thing even like i've been to like some of the uh like the steroid kind of gyms where i like walk in like i don't belong i'm just a guy who's just like gold's gym regular like i try to be like fairly athletic you know build decent muscle mass just normal guy and then like i've walked into those like the the gym me and clean used to go to was like one of those where they had photos on the wall of people that won mr olympia oh yeah yeah bodybuilding gym they're giant and intimidating people and they're the kindest fucking people you'll ever talk to yeah there's like oh you made it in the gym congrats step one yeah let's like no matter what you're lifting like they're just so like uplifting they're just cool that's a trend yeah by the way i got a dealer it's like no no what's your number at least that's always been my experience no i i appreciate that man and it was honestly it's always been the person that i was worried about it was always just the bullshit online but that's like like i've talked your guys freaking ears off about that this week that's just something i know i shouldn't have let affect me as much as it has but in the past i was really just like we were talking so i i was just really in bad spaces because of that stuff it's a fun part about mental health is you don't get to choose it and i told him i was like dude okay how many positive comments he's like 500 and how many negative he's like 20 i was like brother you are sifting through those mountains of positive comments you're like but look what he said like yeah but that those at the hall look how many people said the opposite of that yeah it's like yeah that guy has an anime profile picture a lot of the time it's just blank it's ridiculous like you know somebody uh it was actually administrative results uh aaron he gave me some really profound advice that i've tried to follow and failed more often than not don't pull out great no that's that's grant though i love you mike beat me with a better punch line and now that's his first impression of me but he gave me really good advice about um you know positive comments versus negative comments because you know we see you know thousands of positive comments and then just it's the the couple of negative that you see that just like really stick with you especially if there's a grain of truth to it even if they're being like an i was not to get not to interrupt you but go for it holy last year when some of the negative comments started saying what i was thinking yeah bro that's when it like really that's what it hurts yeah yeah 100 but the one thing aaron told me that like really stuck with me and like said not been the best steward of this advice but if you're going to engage with comments i don't know at all because you know all of us are like inclined to respond like no to the negative comments yeah he said try to at least respond to as many positive comments as you do negative because if you're just responding to negative comments you're just putting negative energy out there you're encouraging user behavior like you're encouraging people to say negative stuff try to engage to positive comments and like man i i've tried to do that because that's just such a healthy rule yeah that's good point them i and then i just don't give a shit that's why i just i don't forget dude i love i do i literally i do not check anything the the one um the stranger things stranger things i woke up and i was like oh that's a lot of things huh that was a good video videos i was like or the views i was like what the fuck why is it at 4 4 million 3.9 million i was like good honey yeah i was like i'm not reading that that's a lot i'll read the top ones and i'll be like thank you or the bikini because i find that hilarious i'm like grok put us in bikinis because i just seen the hoes just having a i scrolled past that as fast as i could dude me too i just seen everyone i was like why is this the thing oh that's actually hilarious pentagon photo grok put us in bikinis eli is the drive-by shooter of twitter and then cody's like eli what are you doing that was my favorite reply and they just all look jacked though i like that part that was really cool you guys have veins and nick was the smallest play for bodybuilder never mind propel fitness water with gatorade electrolytes zero sugar and vitamins propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self what propels you propel with gatorade electrolytes it's hard i think the negative comments cody probably is the best advice i mean you get positive and negative i got a lot of negative yeah you get death threats and it's wild but you stay so positive you just don't give a shit on that stuff you get a lot of negative comments but i've only ever seen uh you get negative comments but i've only ever seen positive interactions in person too yeah yeah these are all just oh i'm the same way i try i don't even read comments anymore to be honest with you i'll read like the top three or four say how low and then that's it i'll just turn my phone off it's bad for your mental health man yeah you know when i when i started like sort of streaming and youtube and all that stuff i would i was obsessed with fucking every single negative comment and it drove me crazy and i knew it was just bad for me so i'll read the top couple say hey done yeah yeah and then go people on twitter there you go yeah you're good at that i'm not reading those negative bullies turn a bullet governor tim waltz i'm not stuck in here with them they're stuck in here with me brother the president called you retarded i'm about to call you worse love wait till you find out some of my favorites it's so good someone just called me the best white people slur i've ever heard right before we got on this podcast okay was it because of the last episode no no i was just making fun of someone but as you do you know it was it was a racially motivated post it was one of those comments someone was like they would have shot that guy if he was black and i'm like no they wouldn't and someone said shut up come skin i was like i can't be mad at that that's awesome you just reshare it well because the the reason i say that is the last episode we put out was uh or at least at time of recording was the one with uh bar none yeah and so the whole episode was like trying to seek the best white slur i forgot so i think you finally found it yeah yeah come skin come skin do that rumple rumple come skin all right wikipedia add it add it to the list oh we gotta get jake back such a good episode everyone's like man cody talked they were like i think you talked more in that one episode than all of unsub because he was right he was like yes he riled you up me and him also had a couple of drinks in us i think we all were doing a little bit of happy drinking that that night well two of us were oh yeah that was fun it was good it was me and eli trying to keep it on the rails you guys were just feeding off each other to heaven and then we went out to eat afterwards and you were like he didn't remember going and he was asking you the same questions over and over it was just like so where are you from again that happened five times over the course of dinner and he's like brandon also does it really well you don't know they're drunk yeah i'm decently good at it depending but of what like hiding when you are yeah or well no i just well also part of it is like pacing like i just i don't enjoy being drunk like i don't enjoy the sensation like i'll have a couple drinks like knock the edge off i genuinely do not enjoy like the sensation of being hammered it's not fun to me like just like i get nauseous just the feeling i just you know not a big fan so just it's about pacing and then when you get hangovers when you get older fucking the worst thing cody hangovers when you're like 38 yeah like i said after new year's it took me like four days to recover dude it is like i've had three drinks i'm like my god i drink so much water now yeah this is very bad for my soul right here i don't know honestly i don't think i've ever been drunk like i think maybe two or three of these is the most i've ever had in one sitting but i'm also ginormous i know your weight doesn't directly equate to how much it has a lot but i know it means a lot yeah you might not drink much but it is it does correlate very heavily well that's what i was gonna say like i've had maybe three of those seagrams that i mentioned earlier that was like the most alcohol i've ever consumed at one time and i never i didn't really feel much i i had an old mentor um when i was back in college uh he was like a gunsmithing mentor who was partially native american and i'm dead fucking serious i i i knew that like native american blood like you kind of had like a sensitivity to alcohol like that's you know a historic thing what so they're like more susceptible to becoming drunk oh yeah okay uh because they don't have that you know resistance to it or i don't know i don't necessarily think it's time to break it down in their liver or how it's broken down is different so it's like opposite of the irish yep exactly but they have that it's i i i thought it was oh you know it's one of those things where like oh i thought like a native american might be like 10 20 percent more susceptible um I i at one point i had brought like a six pack of i was young it was like angry orchard which nowadays i'm like oh my god so much i couldn't i couldn't finish one today but like you know brought over a six pack just you know around after hours he had one of them and he was like confined to the chair can't speak english piss your pants drunk and i've never seen anything like it before or since wow wild yeah he legit and it was over quick too it was like 10 minutes 10 minutes he was just like i was like i'm about to pee myself like that's sort of like just completely fucking blasted i've never experienced anything like that like that's wow there was the one guy i do not remember he streamed and he told me he told us and then his like everyone knew but i didn't believe it at first because i was like oh my god i'm gonna die it was like oh i can't get drunk it was i was like what no that's not possible he's like no like literally how my body breaks it down it's just i cannot get drunk it just whatever gets you drunk or intoxicated it flushes it out i do not and then sure shit we streamed and he streamed drinking he's like tell me when to do shots i will open a brand new bottle it's not gonna do anything like half a bottle nothing he's like no i i don't drink because of this i cannot get drunk so he's got the pick dose where he's just like oh yeah it'll just do direct hp damage and absolutely no side effects yeah it'll go through your whole caloric intake and just not just none of the benefits oh congratulations you hurt your liver got 3 000 calories and got no benefit out of it i was like fuck now you're you are a gamer oh yeah we have we have multiple so you do first person shooters which is everyone's wheelhouse cody does first person shooters which is everyone's wheelhouse cody does first person shooters and you do like i'm first person shooters and you do like i'm first person shooters and you do like i'm doing world of warcraft right now dude i'm doing world of warcraft right now dude i'm doing world of warcraft right now dude i'm hardcore into it hardcore into it hardcore into it you're uh are you playing vanilla or like you're uh are you playing vanilla or like you're uh are you playing vanilla or like new updated yeah classic new updated yeah classic new updated yeah classic the classic vanilla yeah are you doing the classic vanilla yeah are you doing the classic vanilla yeah are you doing hardcore classic no no no okay hardcore classic no no no okay hardcore classic no no no okay i tried it it stressed me out so bad i tried it it stressed me out so bad i tried it stressed me out so bad dude on a any on a soft raid you're like dude on a any on a soft raid you're like dude on a any on a soft raid you're like but it's fine but it's fine but it's fine dad dad dad done characters done done characters done done characters done oh fun yeah yeah no because that's oh fun yeah yeah no because that's oh fun yeah yeah no because that's you know dozens of hours that just you know dozens of hours that just you know dozens of hours that just completely evaluate dozens that is days completely evaluate dozens that is days completely evaluate dozens that is days this is like this is like this is like how do you have the time how do you have the time how do you have the time that's why i don't play hardcore i'm that's why i don't play hardcore i'm I'm making them at night, dude. I wouldn't start a hardcore one, dude. How many days would it take to get a level 50 OG, like Vanilla WoW? Like, or level cap 60? Yeah. It'll take you at least two weeks if you're, like, dungeon boosting. If you're speedrunning it. But if you take your time to do quests, it could take you a month. And that is branded. If you die, it's all gone. Oh, yeah, no, I know. That's why it's fucking insane to me. That this is fun to people. I got a dude to level, like, 25 on hardcore, and I was just stressed all the time. It's like, I'm not even enjoying this shit anymore. It's just like life. Yeah, pretty much. I would not play a tank. I've made it 30 years, and I'm just stressed, and I can die tomorrow. Yeah. This isn't even fun anymore. I can't even start a new save. Dude, I would never be tank. Yeah. Playing with randoms. Like, you know how to heal? Bro, you don't know how to heal. Oh, one bad pull. One bad pull, and your team's gone. Like, that's how, when you're doing instances, if you have a bad team that no one knows shit, if you have one bad team and a bad pull, that is everyone. You have your own guild, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's on the, okay, yeah, I'm going to shout it out real quick. It's on the 21st anniversary server. It's the Night Slayer room. Horde, of course. Alliance is gay. And it's called the. Geneva Suggestion. So, named after the Unsub Tour. So, if anyone wants to join, that's where it's at. Our boy Fadar. I love, that is the most random friendship. That's pretty random, yeah. This is a guy I knew from World of Warcraft. Or, sorry, EverQuest, then World of Warcraft. Fires of Heaven. FOH Guild Board from 2001. And then. What? He knows Cody. Yeah, he, like, we ran into each other on WoW, and he joined my guild. And he's like. He's like, oh, I know Eli. 25 years ago. Yeah. And he, like, he was in. He's a very good MMO player. Oh, dude, he's incredible. I had to do the mental math. I'm like, how old was Eli 25 years ago? Unfortunately, he's still old. He's still old. 15 at that point. 16. According to Jeffrey, never mind. I was the legal age. For him. But he's. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Like, that dude, a monster player, because they played back in the EQ days, which was the most unforgiving fucking game, especially when you played MMOs. That was. If you died. Now, it's not hardcore, like, character loss, but if you died in EverQuest back in 99 to 2002, you lost half a bubble. Half a bubble, you are looking at 20 hours in-game of grinding. Oh, fuck off. If you die one time. That sounds disgusting. Guess who never. Bad players did not make it to level 50. Level 50 and then level 60. Like, there was no one bad that made it that far in the game, because there is that reality check. It's like. Yeah. Fucking. And you could de-level. You could. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That game was fucking brutal, dude. No maps, no nothing. Quests. You had to type in shit and then hope it worked. There was no. Like, you know how video games have, like, the exclamation point or the question mark? That did not exist at this time. It was word of mouth. Vendors, oxen houses didn't existed. You had to trade with players and barter. Like, you. Everyone created their own zone of where they'd meet up to barter or trade. I was going to say, could you bully players, like, PvP-wise? Like, trade me this for this or I will fucking kill you and end your save. If you are on PvP servers, there was different ways. Or if you're just a shitbag like a lot of us, you'd be like, hey, new players, dude. We troll the fuck out of new players. You'd be like, hey, how do I trade? I'd be like, dude, you need money? And they'd be like, yeah, because they'd beg online. They'd beg and shout. I'd be like, dude, where are you? Yeah, I got money for you here. Come here. And they're like, how do I trade? It's like, oh, I got some good money for you here. I need you to hit slash T or slash P. Slash T. Slash C. Slash C and my name. Type that in and I can trade you. I'm like, oh, okay, that makes sense. Slash C. Type in names like they challenge you to a duel. Slash D, duel, if that is. And it's like they challenge you to a duel and you hit yes and you go and kill them. Like, their body is there and all their stuff stays on their corpse until they walk back out to it. Because I remember, I think you were telling me where they had this thing where, like, you could own sheep or, like, whatever that would just, like, walk out on the map. On which one? This would be different. I don't remember which game it was. But you were telling me, like, you could just own livestock. That would be something that you could just hunt in the game. Maybe it wasn't you. Maybe it was clean. That's probably a clean one. But, like, you could just, they would bully new players that way because, like, veteran players could not engage. Like, newbie players, unless the newbie players engage them first. But they could, like, own livestock animals or whatever and just let them loose. You can do that in, you can fuck with people in Hardcore WoW if you're a hunter. I think that's my. You tame a beast that looks like something in that area and then you get your pet and you walk it out there and let them, the new people doing a quest will think, like, oh, that bear over there is part of this quest and they'll attack your pet and then you just stomp them out. I think it was me, you, and clean that we're talking about. It might have been, yeah. That's messed up, dude. That's fucked up, dude. Dude, trolling in OG EverQuest, also you could, there was Oasis Island and it is where everyone from 10 to 20 would level up. You would level up on the orcs. And then for whatever reason, they had this little island in the middle with a portal and then the level 46 specters, which could one-shot anything. Like, level 50s, max level, you do not fuck with specters. If you did invisible and you ran by, you could collect all four of them and then you run any J boots because you can't outrun anything unless you have boots that come later in the game. You just grab them and then they would follow you until you zone out. So they just follow you. You have four level 46 specters that can one-shot anything and then you just take them to Orc Island. Oh, no. Newbie Island and they will kill anything in the. way to get to you so they will one-shot everything because it wasn't oh i can only attack this individual because they hit me it was i'm pissed i'm chasing that guy i'm killing everything along the way though and so you just have a line of death you're just bringing deathclaw valley into new vegas like yeah every time and they couldn't see you because you're invisible so they were Like, who the fuck trades Spectres to Oasis? And you're like, eh. I was meaning to just zone out and come back in. And then on the way back, they'd kill everything. See, you were just an asshole. Yeah, I mean, it was 99, 2001. I was 15. I was living my best life. What games, so what kind of games are you into? Oh, man. When I was streaming, I was doing all shooters. Like, pretty much. Like, I enjoy single-player games. That's all I've been playing lately. Like, this past year, holy shit, guys. I used to play, like, 60 hours of games a week. I do, like, five or six now. Like, I'm really not great with time management. So, like, my schedule isn't technically busy. But I am always busy. Right. So, you know, a couple single-player games. Like, thankfully, Expedition came out before all the social media stuff happened. So, I was just sitting on my ass. So, you played it back in the day, then. So, yeah, I played it the day it came out. I picked up my copy. And I did not. I did not pick up another game until I 100%ed that. Oh, shit. I got into it after Eli bullied me into getting into it. And it was best decision. It's a game worth convincing people to play. I'll go back and try it, man. Dude, Cody, my favorite thing, was like, oh, yeah, I ran into that side block. You can't beat it. I'm going to come back. And I was like, oh, you can beat him. You can play it perfect. And he's like, you can beat that? I'm like, yeah, you have to play it perfect. So, you could just choose to move past it. It was like the guy in the first area, I think. The mime? No. Fuck the mimes. Fuck the mimes. Hate them. It was after they've landed on the island and happiness happened. Was it the scuba guy? The guy with the underwater mask? I can't remember. It was like a big green monster, wasn't it, on the right? It was like in the first area. Oh, like in the overworld. No, before the overworld. Before you even hit the overworld, there was that one side. If you go under, you can fight everything. Actually, when it's like trading, he's the only one that will one-shot you no matter fucking what. And you have to be perfect on timing. Otherwise, you're fucked. I loved the combat in that. Like, being forced to learn when to dodge and parry and stuff was like. This is the most text I have from Brandon is when we were playing that. I remember that one boss because I didn't know what the fuck you were talking about. Because I immediately. Because they're optional. Yeah. Because I just remember walking straight past him. Like, seeing him, I'm like, that dude looks scary as fuck. And just kept moving. Yeah? Did not ever have to fight him. I went back later and, like, one-shot him just out of principle. Yeah. Yeah, no. I mean, I love the fact that you get to choose who you fight for the most part anyway. Such a good game, Cody. You got it. I'll give it another try. No, you absolutely should. You guys still talk about it. And this was months ago that it came out. Yeah, it came out, what, like last March or something? It's not like that one friend that's like, oh, we should play this game. You should definitely give them $20 and, like, you play it for one night and never play it again. It's not one of those. No, you don't. I was like, Brandon does not like turn-based or JRPGs. And I was like, dude, you will still love the shit out of this because this is not turn-based combat. This made it fun for the first time ever in turn-based combat. This is a fucking blast. The story is worth it alone. What I like a lot about it, too, is, like, I'm not a big turn-based combat fan either, but the fact that the exploration and stuff was still you literally controlling a character. Yeah. So you still got to, like, explore these worlds and enjoy the level design of, like, a traditional third-person game on top of their insane combat system. I just realized it's kind of like Pokemon in 3D. Yeah. You're walking around a world and you just get to choose. Which is funny. Oh, I'm going to engage. Yeah, it's funny because I've always, like, before this game came out, I've always told people the only good turn-based game is Pokemon. It's the only turn-based game I've ever enjoyed. Except for a few of the Final Fantasies, you know? Dude, I'm so excited for you to try it. I will. I will. You know what? I'll actually do it tonight. Oh, dude, it's so freaking good. Once you get into it, there is a reason it just broke every record for, like, winning every award is when you play it. It swept the gaming awards for $10 million, like, indie game. And then people were shitting. I was like, well, oh, it was AI-generated. And they're like, well, no, it was one, like, asset. Yeah, it was, like, one small asset that was. And then that's the way they were shitting. It's like, that's the only reason it won Game of the Year. And you're like, no, f*** cards. It's because it was a good f***ing game. Yeah. That writing was fantastic. The characters were fantastic. The music. I give two fucks about music. Oh, dude. It wasn't even English. And it was still, like, so powerful, man. Not to give away any spoilers, but I didn't realize that if you actually, if you know French, so many of the words that they use, like. The gommage and different things like that and different things that are said in the music itself give away the plot to the game. Oh, no, for sure. Very early. I listened to a singer who did a translated version of one of the songs. It. And it was wild. If you were in France playing this game, you were, like, hammer-fisted with the plot before, like. Well, the main song, I didn't realize they were singing. They were just saying Claire Obscure the entire time with the other words. I was like, oh, they're just. They're just saying the name of this game. I'm f***ing stupid. Well, I think this is true. I saw, like, Claire Obscure is apparently French for, like, light and dark. Probably. Which is so cool. It's, like, so badass to think about when you think about the game. But I saw an article recently that one of their game directors was like, we're not planning on upping the production of the next one. Good. Like, they're just going back to what they did. They're just kind of, like, going back in their hole and doing what they did and doing what they did. I'm very excited for what the second one might do. We talked about this. I just don't want to give any spoilers to people who haven't played the game yet because it's worth playing. It really is. Oh, I know. Oh, if it goes to the other storyline, I'm like, oh, dude. Well, that's the thing with that universe because the next title will be a Claire Obscure game. Whatever they do, it's going to be ridiculous. Everything possible. And then I loved the voice. the main voice actor that won. And once it took off, he didn't know his character name. He didn't know the game. He was like, I went in and acted. He was like, that was it. It was like one day. Yeah. And then he's like, people were running up and be like, oh, my God, Gustav. I think it was Gustav. Yeah. And he's like, Charlie Cox, the guy who played Daredevil, voiced Gustav. And then when someone asked him about an interview, he was like, what? He had no clue. And then he started winning video game awards for best actor. And he was like, what the fuck is this? Yeah, I think Mael's voice actress won. Best performance at the game awards. Dude, Cody, you're gonna. Oh, you're gonna. We'll put you in a group chat. I haven't played it since release and I only got to that first starting area. So I'll go back and replay everything. It won't make you feel very good. I'm surprised that the game didn't capture you because I feel like most people who like just right off the get-go, that game just like cracks you. Well, it depends. The first half hour. Yeah. Like the intro. The intro. I was like, holy shit. False Paris. Yeah. That whole. Yeah. Did you hear how far show it? Shows? She's already in like. Act two? Yeah, halfway through act two. You're like. Because she. At brunch or lunch today, she was like, you know, I'm playing Expedition 33. I was like, get the fuck out of here. What? Yeah, let's fucking go. How far are you? This far. How long has she been playing it? Yeah, we said how far and she goes deep. Yeah. Me and you are like, wait a minute. What does that mean? Because there's like. What do you know? Yeah. It's a journey. Holy shit, man. Have fun with it. I can't even remember the last game that I remember as fondly as that. Like, I have a few, like my top three of all time, like Elden Ring and Breath of the Wild and stuff, but like that game is ridiculous. I feel like this game studio needs to be paying us for how much we've talked about it. But like it's. They don't for the record, but I feel like they should because for fuck's sake, like I. I can't remember the last time we've advocated this. This hard for something like that. Oh, dude, it's ridiculous. I bought. I got my physical copy day one. I bought. I bought the collector's edition, the limited edition, and the Amazon limited edition, and I'm just keeping them sealed. Yeah. I'm not even opening them, dude. I ordered the frickin' vinyls. Oh, my God. And I don't even own a record player. That man pulling an Eli on that one. I was obsessed with that shit, dude. I was like, you know, in my mind, like a piece of art like that, regardless of whether it's a game. Yeah. does not come around very often. Trust me, I know. They're fucking expensive. Fucking Eli immediately, like earlier this F1 season, he's like, buy a Max Verstappen. rookie card sealed. Yeah. this grade, do this, this, this. I was like, trust me, and it's already fucking like. I'm like, trust me, this will go really far. That's one game, looking at them, I was like, I'm trying to find all the exact same ones you just listed because they shot up in price. Yeah, because I didn't even buy them to resell. I just bought them because I like collecting that shit. Yeah. You know? They shot up in price. Oh, I'm sure. Motherfucker. Dude, and then what? I think. I mean. That was a. We covered damn near everything for an episode. We got an after show if we want to do an after show. after show yeah well i mean is there anything that you'd like to talk about yeah like while you got the floor oh i don't know man i just think this this journey is just so freaking nuts man it's it's understatement of the year man you know i can't even comprehend it looking back on last year dude like you guys got to realize like i was in a place where i didn't even know why god kept me alive after the hospital you know like because i because i had like hit it off on twitch and i was enjoying my life for the first time and i was starting to lose weight and all that got taken away and i spent a few years not even knowing why i was here and then that happened last may it all started happening and i was like holy shit like i have like for the first time and since 2021 i feel like i'm actually on the path that i'm supposed to be on and that's wild feeling it's a good feeling i'm sure especially knowing the impact it has yeah you know because like we're at a point now man like i get recognized everywhere it's ridiculous like on the street gas stations like target walmart game stop like it's like actually ridiculous but when i get to meet some of those people and then they not only some of them tell me about their own journeys but then to also hear like firsthand the impact that the videos that i've created have had dude it's like priceless not to get too sappy about it but if you think about it like what we were talking about a little bit earlier like the the amount of sacrifice that you've done personally and just you know hey i'm gonna make these personal sacrifices to make sure that i get healthier and i i lose all this weight and everything and you've given 20 25 years to your future children extrapolate that out into all the people that you've inspired to do stuff like this yeah and you've granted you know hundreds of millions of dollars to do this and you've given hundreds if not thousands of years to other people who've been inspired by your journey to do the same thing yeah that's that's a crazy thought and you know that i think it's something to be proud of yeah i appreciate that man that's what i always some people get mad at me for one of my taglines but like when one of my taglines is like when i do something difficult i'm at the end of the video i'll go like if i can do something like that at my size imagine what you can do and then they're like yeah but we don't do social media full time and i'm like yeah but we don't do social media full time and i'm like yeah but we don't do social media full time you don't need to you don't need to you didn't either when you started yeah like you don't need to do that to like hit your step goal or do what i just did in the gym you know like i need followers to walk down the road like what the fuck so but now then like that's that's how do you expect me to walk down my street i don't have a following that's what you took away from this yeah like listen like i i views don't help views don't help that stuff it made it harder like even last yeah the pressures dude sometimes the pressure makes it harder but like even last year like i even when i was in like my peak of like the amount of support i was getting and stuff i still struggle with shit like it's not it's not like a band-aid it's not just gonna fix it you know but i think that that that is like one of the main messages that i i love being able to like entertain and motivate people at the same time and like if i can come back from 660 pounds not knowing why i'm alive to living a life worth living you know the guy who has like 10 or 20 pounds to lose you know he's got it bro he's easy and what's your excuse at that point it's like hmm yeah easy any uh words of wisdom or tips for anyone beginning the journey couple things this first one's a hot take right not everyone needs to share it because i see a lot of people uh from even from my page who like started their own journeys and start sharing it and dude i honestly believe i would have lost more weight last year if i hadn't started that page because i was i was losing weight faster before i started social media and i know i made a lot of healthy changes from it because i got a trainer i started going to the gym i started eating more because i was starving myself for the first five months of last year but there was so much like for me personally because i talked to you guys about how much i was losing weight and i was losing weight and i was losing weight and i was all that impact me there was so much stress so much stress dude like i was literally like for the last six months of last year i was a freaking ball of stress i know that if i had just sat on my ass and stayed in that crazy deficit i was in i was eating like 1500 calories a day it was stupid i lost 120 pounds in the first five months of last year it was ridiculous but if i had stayed on my ass i probably would have lost more than i did so i'm not to say that that's what people should be doing but i know for a fact that the stress from social media has negatively affected my journey it hasn't stopped it like i've had a few plateaus i've continued moving in the right direction but that's the one thing like people need to weigh if they because you know a lot of people who start social media they got to ask themselves why they want to start it right but like people people probably should yeah people need to weigh whether it's worth sharing and if they're capable of sharing in a way that they're not going to do what i did and then they don't let it impact the journey itself because the journey itself and their life and their future matters more than the page in a lot of cases you know so i know that that's a bit of a hot take and you know but i think it's i think it's important i think it's important for people to consider because i see a lot of people who will like start their journey and then start posting and then they'll get some negative comments and then they'll just like you know crash out and way worse than what they were thinking social media is not the easiest life i mean like yeah you're gonna get hate or you're gonna get positivity some people are fine with the hate and they thrive off of it and then some people it is you want that pot you want to put out positivity and you're expecting that's all you're going to get back and then when you do get hate you're going to get hate and then you're going to get well i was at i was at a couple points last year where like i didn't want to upload like i was just so over it i was so sick of the internet man i was so sick of the internet and i but i but i knew at that point how many people it had impacted and that's why i didn't stop yeah but i think that's an important thing for people to consider because if they are capable of doing it sharing it and not letting the internet get in the way of them then they're not going to be able to do it their journey hell yeah let's go dude because there's there's a lot there's some really cool people in the weight loss space online that are on like crazy journeys that are just freaking killing it and what other tips would you give if you have any other ones the other thing and i i said this i'll say hi yesterday too but like man if someone has a significant change that they want to make in their life instead of just knowing that and convincing themselves that they need to make the change they need to make the decision and actually flip the switch to change because until i had that epiphany realization whatever you want to call it last january i obviously didn't have that decision made and i didn't have like the determination that i needed to get to where i needed to be because that was like my fourth time getting back up over 600 and i feel like there's a lot of people excuse me that i have a there's like a dopamine reflex with talking about the thing you're going to do instead of doing it you know i think there's a lot of people that that fall in love with that like well i'm gonna go do this and then i tell you about it and you're like that's awesome man you're like cool i got the dopamine of achieving the task even though i didn't do it so even though i'm on the journey oh that's so cool i'm glad you're doing it i'm like okay i got the dopamine i don't need the actual results yeah i feel like that's kind of tapping no absolutely dude one of the hardest things for me and i don't think i actually struggle with this but i try to be very very aware about it i don't want to fall into complacency yeah because like that's one of the most interesting dynamics of my journey with how big it is like just the sheer amount of weight is i've lost over 200 pounds but i have a hard time even celebrating that because i have another 200 to lose so i can like i have to find a balance of like obviously you have to celebrate milestones like that because it's freaking nuts 200 pounds is a lot of freaking weight dude you're halfway there that's a that and it's that hard part like but i also don't want to let myself be like oh yeah i've lost 200 pounds i did it trust me like i'm not done most people can't lift the weight you've lost yeah yeah i can't yet that's you know that's that's a crazy milestone man like yeah you've hit the halfway mark which is again it can be motivating as fuck it's that is yeah i never even thought about it like that dude a road march that's the turn around point you're at the turnaround point you've made the walk out now you're making the walk back to your goal like yeah being sure i hate a road marty road marching it was the worst thing in the world because it i can't step out i don't have long strides my buddy's habit fuck you he's like six four and he's like why can't you keep up i'm like dog you're six four your one step is like three of mine and then i have weight on my back so once i got to that that turnaround point, six miles if I'm doing a 12 mile, cool now i just gotta get back doesn't matter how fast i got to that i got to the six miles fast especially for eib it's like i ran i just jogged the entire time i was the second run at the turnaround point and then i was the slowest motherfucker back because i paced it i was like i'm gonna be garbage on the way back but i will hit it and i'll be within that three hour window sure two hours and 51 minutes i'm at crossing the finish line i was like wow sitting down you're at you're walking back now you already hit the halfway mark now it's just fucking yeah staying focused yeah take her home that's the yeah that was the kind of cool this year like this is the lowest i've been since before high school so like i like i said like last year was the first year in this whole time that i've been struggling with my weight as an adult that i've actually kept a lot of it off so it's very interesting interesting going about it now because i've never been at this point yes it's kind of a new territory in a way but it's really good if you fuck this up we will bully you how about oh you should bully if i'm not if i'm not under 400 by the time you guys see me next so you don't need to fucking slap this is a threat whoa whoa whoa any other last aggressive support exactly i love aggressive support no i'm good brother whatever you guys where do what does everyone find you at brother yeah so i just started a new youtube channel literally today it's youtube.com slash the ethan bernard show because i couldn't transfer my original username um so ethan bernard show the ethan bernard show is good good fucking good yeah i think it's gonna be good i think it's kind of cool to be having the youtube channel the ethan bernard show and then having all the other socials just the name yeah because then the long form is kind of the show even though it's not going to be like a talk show or anything but hebs for short then tiktok and facebook are ethan bernard live everyone hates my joke and on 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