The global tech sector, particularly semiconductors and AI-related industries, is facing a structural supply shortage driven by rapid demand growth. Despite market concerns over profitability, the underlying demand for memory and computing power remains strong, with supply constrained by lengthy manufacturing timelines—up to three years for new capacity. Experts emphasize that only a few key players are profitable, and broad sentiment is skewed by negative headlines from high-profile firms. A major risk is a macroeconomic capital crunch, as global firms commit trillions to AI infrastructure, creating intense competition in capital markets. Meanwhile, central banks are maintaining cautious stances: the U.S. Fed is likely to delay rate hikes until December due to election timing and market signals; the ECB may hold rates steady in October and avoid action despite rising France-linked bond spreads, which signal early contagion concerns; the BOJ will likely pause rates but may begin gradual tightening in early 2025 if inflation stabilizes. Other regional economies, including Australia and Thailand, are also under review, with inflation and growth data shaping policy outlooks. Overall, while the AI transition is underway, the supply chain remains fragile, and financial and macroeconomic risks remain significant.
From the moment that the computers are shipped to the moment that they start earning
could be many months and the amount of float because we're talking about a fairly significant
investment. The amount of float is quite large and so we need to help, we need to help these
companies reduce that and I think that's reducing the supply chain, making it easier for them to stand
up, the computing is going to make a big difference. Hello and welcome to the weekhead on the
Mora Podcast. My name is Juven Parkuelis, Chief Southeast Asia economist at Morae in Singapore
and today is Friday the 23rd of October. We have a jam packed episode for you
and writing so because it's a big week for markets next week with a few global center banks lined
up including the Fed, the ECB and the B.O.J. Jeremy Schwartz, our chief US economist, Andrei
Shapanek, our senior European economist and Yuhichiro Nusaki, our economist in Tokyo will preview
those upcoming decisions. We'll also have some updates on the situation in France, signs of
contagion effects and prospects of ECB stepping in. Of course, with the past week casting the spotlight
on AI related wobbles in global equity markets, as you heard that clip from NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang
outlining some challenges of parts of the AI supply chain, I'm very delighted that our special
guest CW Chung, our joint head of APEC equity strategy who also oversees equity coverage for
career technology and semiconductor sectors, is also joining us and will explain why he remains
constructive in the tech sector overall, should be a good one. So let's dive in.
Okay, we start with my special guest CW Chung who is our joint head of APEC equity research
and he oversees equity coverage for career technology and semiconductor sectors out of Hong Kong.
Really delighted that he can join us today, especially if this juncture when sentiment in markets
have been jittery, particularly on equities on the back of some AI related concerns earlier.
So yeah, hi CW, great to have you in the podcast and thanks for your time.
Yeah, my pleasure. So just first question, you published a report this week, really interesting,
and you outlined why you remain constructive, particularly on the memory sector. Can you elaborate
on that please? Sure, as you we all know that we are at the AI era and AI need a lot of computing
power, including GPU and memory, but basically memory industry is a kind of supply and demand dynamics
industry. So the mismatch between a very strong roughly growing demand versus limited supply,
so memory guys are trying to increase the supply, but it physically takes several years to make
a new greenfield capacity. So we believe it may take some more time for supply to catch up demand.
Okay, got it. And in your report, you talked about markets maybe underestimating the strong AI
demand and the earnings that this can generate across the value chain. Why do you think that is
the case? Yeah, because AI industry is a kind of very new one, and there are not sufficient
data to analyze this industry yet. Also, major CSP companies are key computing power provider
to the AI industry. They are actually buying a lot of AI service from MVDA and also memory
from memory companies, but basically most of the people are used to kind of chat to BT or
cloud. They are making losses right now, and also on CSP companies, they are kind of generating
negative recovery cash flow from this year, because we huge KPX, each cohort investment is very
profitable from this CSP companies. However, general people just to listen every day that
this very familiar AI frontier model companies are making losses, and the CSP companies are
raising funds to fulfill this kind of KPX. So everyone may think that all these industries are
not profitable, but in reality, they are very profitable only few selective AI model companies,
and the nail cloud companies, they are not very profitable, but in general, they are very profitable.
Okay, yeah, that's really interesting. And so that's affecting market sentiment because they
sort of watch the big names more closely than the others, I guess is what you're saying.
Okay, and you alluded to this in your first, in your response to the first question
with regards to the chip supply situation. So just want to ask what is your outlook on that? How long
will this current chip shortage last? The overall industry, even AI company, they realize that
they need a huge memory supply and that was a sort called a last year. And then even if the
industry overall realized that they need to have a much more capacity, once they make decision,
it physically takes at least two years to build a clean room, and once the clean room is ready,
they need to install the equipment, and then wait for in and wait for it physically takes minimum three
years. That's why we cannot change anything for three years. So as a super cycle,
started a pharmaceutical last year, we believe that maybe additional supply may come out
in 2028 at all. Even it comes out maybe as a demand, I'll become bigger and better and better
every month. Even in 2028 supply, new supply, whether you can catch up demand is a not yet
subtle at all. Okay, got it. So yeah, it's still a few years, even though it started since
late last year in terms of building more capacity. Okay, final question, CW. So
I know I've said you're pretty constructive on the sector. What would be the main risk that
you're watching against that view? Yeah, of course, the key risk will be, or if AI is useless,
it turned out to be useless, then it can be a kind of huge risk, but there is no one probably
concerned about such a risk. We believe that the capability of AI is actually
better and even better cause a better AI train the next generation AI. So we can see
much more accelerated progress of the AI capability. However, everyone still need a kind of
capital because there is a some time lag. Like the memory industry, once they make a start to
spend the k-packs or CSPs, they need to spend the k-packs now, but it physically takes up to three
years to gain the return from this investment. So coming a couple of years, the overall global
big tech companies, they need to spend almost trillion dollars over k-packs. It is growing
like a hundred percent this year and next year we still expect another 70 percent. And following
year, still can grow maybe 20, 30, 40 percent kind of speed. So whether macro environment can
afford this kind of a huge capital requirement or the every government also need a capital to
this day. So there will be severe competition for the capital market. So maybe someone who is not
financially strong, they may face some capital shortage issue. This can be one biggest risk
we may think about. Okay, brilliant. Yeah, I think we can leave it here and thanks very much for
all your insights, CW. Thanks. Okay, let's now go to the U.S. and I'm joined by Jeremy Schwartz,
our U.S. Chief Economist. Hey Jeremy, welcome back to the podcast. Hey, you've been screwed back.
Okay, we just focused on really the big event of next week and that's the Fed. So I guess
first question for you is will the higher than expected CPI print move the needle and prompt
the Fed into action or are we too close to the midterms for a back-to-back hike? Yeah, so in a vacuum
you might have expected the Fed to react strongly to the inflation data and we're going to talk a
little bit more about the details.
their later. But what we saw ahead of the CPI number was Fed speak kind of moving aggressively
to push back against October probability when it was more priced in the market. So a number
of core officials like Vice Chair Jefferson, New York, President Williams, and Governor Waller
all came out and pretty explicitly tried to push back on October. You're on top of that,
you've also gotten a bit of market stress recently, in addition to the sell-off in Treasury yields,
there's been some cracks in credit markets, particularly concerns about AI, and then potentially
some spillovers from Europe as well. So our view on the Fed has been that they are willing to hike
if the market is pressing them to do so and if the data are clearly calling for it. But they're not
eager too. And I think with the midterm elections just around the corner, with the market only
priced around three or four basis points of tightening, and with Fed speak having gone out on a limb,
trying to signal patients, we don't think even the strong inflation data for October is going to
be enough to get them to feel that greater urgency. We think it's more likely that they tee up a
move in December and skip this meeting. Okay, good. And on that front, maybe just a quick follow-up,
do you think the tone will signal towards that or will it be a bit more neutral?
Yeah, so Worsh is not going to give explicit forward guidance and say that they're expecting to
move at an upcoming meeting or kind of in the near term later this year even. But what I think he
will do is kind of avoid pushing back against the expectation for future tightening. So we think
he's likely to still sound hawkish on inflation. He's likely to continue to say that he doesn't see
conditions as particularly restrictive. And normally one thing that he mentioned, the IMF side
alliance shortly before the blackout period, was saying inflation data had come around in line with
what the committee was expecting in September, which he's normally not a fan of the dot plot, but
I think the way the market interpreted that was that the committee would deliver something like the
dot plot, a median, which calls for two hikes this year. So I think he has some subtle tools in
his toolkit to make sure that December stays priced without needing to kind of break his
kind of own commitment to avoid forward guidance. Okay, got it. Yeah, we were there in Bangkok
last week for our award event as well and yeah, it was interesting that he said, yeah, he does
look out the window when it comes to making assessments of the economy for policy decisions.
Finally, Jeremy, on the inflation outlook, we have also the September core PC on tab next week.
What do you expect there? Yeah, so we do expect an acceleration. We think that core PC is
going to pick up to around 32 basis points month on month. So we've revised that higher since
the CPI and people members last week. We came into those expecting to 0.2 of certainly some
upside-to-price in some of the source data for PC. Notably, we're expecting some strength and
super core services, but also within goods price inflation. It seems like there has been some
outperformance in some tech-related items, which is notable because federal officials have been
very willing to look past tariff inflation pressure. They've been willing to look past energy
spill overs from their on-war, but inflation pressures coming from the AI CapEx bloom have
raised a few more red flags at the Fed. So we think the details here, in addition to the ugly
headline, will raise concerns about persistent inflation? How continuing through 2027?
Okay, got it. That might be also supportive of your call that they hike again in December.
Just to complete the picture for Central Banks in North America, we also have the Bank of Canada
next week, and we now expect a 25 basis point hike, given some hawkish remarks from the
governor on inflation spill overs from the energy price shock, although we acknowledge that
this is still a close call. So, yeah, let's leave it here, Jeremy. Thanks very much again.
Yeah, thanks.
Okay, now let's swing over to London. Hey, Andrea, welcome back to the podcast and thank for your
time. Hey, you've been thanks. It's always a pleasure to be on the podcast. Great. So, I guess it's
a big week for Central Banks, and the ECB is on tap. So what do you expect there, and eat potential
for some fireworks? I mean, look, hopefully, and I think the gods can be hoping this. Hopefully,
it'll be a really boring meeting with not much happening. We're going to be aware of forecast,
I think the consensus view is very much this as well. No rate, no rate change at the October
meeting. The ECB should leave. We think the deper rate unchanged at 2.5%. We think the ECB
want to wait and evaluate how the previous rate hikes. So those that occurred in June and in
September will sort of percolate and affect the economy, as well as assess how the current
wage negotiations are occurring in terms of determining second ground inflation effects next year.
Recall the ECB is on this sort of gradual hiking cycle to sort of nipping the bud, the risk of
those second round inflation effects through the wage demand channel. And it's a pretty important
to assess the extent to which you see wage demands rise in Q4 and feed into the 2027 wage growth
data. In terms of the Q&A, look, there's going to be lots of questions about France. There's going
to be lots of questions about the rate path going forward. Our personal views, our house view,
is that essentially the ECB will raise rates again in December and then again in March.
So if we're causing a terminal deper rate of 3% reached by March next year. In terms of France,
the key question from ECB's perspective is will they activate TPI? Will they intervene?
And we just don't think so. We think the bar is very high for the ECB to do that. And a
guy also probably want to evade those questions really. So he can be like, hey, look, this is not so,
you'll probably say something along the lines of we have the tools to lean against unmarried disorderly
market moves that inhibit the transmission of monetary policy as she has done in the past.
Okay, got it. We'll come to France in a second, but we also have the UK budget next week.
Are there any important things that you want to flag? Are you watching out for?
I mean, look, this is Chancellor Healey's first budget. So it's Wednesday, the 28th of October
at 12.30 London time. He's likely to allow fall in fiscal headroom. We think to around 15
billion pounds. I think that's the sort of key takeaway following this September, public finance
data. The cash deficit is no longer surprising to the upside. Still, we think the combination of
lower run rates of NSNI inflows and the need for cost of living support over the winter will
mean a four billion overshoot of the financing requirements for 2026 to 2027. I think in terms of
these sort of splits from sort of guilt versus tea bills, probably equally. So that's two billion
of each issue in terms of existing plans, which were around 246 billion and five billion respectively.
So the sort of summarized the key thing really is basically slightly less fiscal headroom
than previously and slightly increased issuance but equally between guilt and tea bills.
Okay, got it. So now finally, let's get an update from you on the situation in France. What's the
latest there? Where do we go from here? And for me, really interesting to hear your thoughts on
whether you're concerned about contagion effects with the rest of Europe.
Now look, I mean, so at the moment, I mean, at the time of recording, the 10-year-old
moon spread, it's widened to about 175 basis points. That's up from almost 160 yesterday.
So basically, a one-day change, you're talking 15 basis points. That's quite a sharp move,
and the session isn't yet over. It's also worth noting the 10-year-old BTP spread.
That's around 50 basis points, up to around 44, 45 yesterday. So more like a five basis point move.
So you are seeing those signs of contagion. Essentially, the widening of France versus Germany
is dragging along with it Italy and Spain and other countries. And I think that's the sort of key
question mark around where the ECB is concerned and investors more generally. It is worth noting
on the 7th of July, we did push the product piece whereby we sort of spoke about how we think
the spread, France versus Italy should be wider versus where it was trading. Our perspective
is very much the fact is the ECB is going to want to see that contagion effectively be much
worse and so basically the widening of France as a Germany to drag much higher the other countries
before it sort of steps in. If you recall, for example, the sort of macro backdrop when the ECB
introduced TPI, we essentially had Italy versus Germany widening at a very sharp pace to almost
250 basis points. We're very far from those levels and also that sort of speed as well to sort of
be questioning, okay, should the ECB be stepping in? As I mentioned earlier already, the ECB is going
to sort of push back against the idea of stepping in, refrain from answering those sorts of questions,
simply saying, hey, look, we have the tools necessary if needs be. But the question is what's the
sort of level, what's the sort of point in time where you could see intervention and it's worth
bringing my intervention. I speak about TPI because everyone's talking about TPI.
Intervention could also be verbal intervention, it could also be
Stopping quantitative tightening, restarting partial quantitative easing, or is the reinvestment of maturing bonds.
It can also be bringing forward the timeline for the structural bond portfolio to allow the ECB to deviate from the capital key.
So there are a few things the ECB could be thinking about.
Bottom line is, though, it's all about contagion to other markets, where the ECB would be forced to step in, where a long way from that point we think.
Okay, got it, so there's some of it, but not significant enough for ECB to step in.
Okay, that's very clear. Thank you very much, Andre.
Thanks, you've been great as always.
Now we go to Japan, and I'm joined by Nuzaki-san from our economic team in Tokyo.
Hi, Nuzaki-san. Thank you very much for joining today.
Hi, Evan.
So, yeah, a big week next week with a BOJ on Friday.
So what do you expect from their decision?
We expect the BOJ to leave its policy rate unchanged at the next meeting.
This is the market consensus.
Since the previous meeting in September, there has been no new evidence of upside risks to domestic inflation.
I mean, the long-term inflation expectation for Q3 has etched down, and the PPI has declined for two consecutive months.
With the FOMC scheduled surgery before the BOJ meeting, also widely expected to hold rates unchanged.
We see little need for the BOJ to raise rates at the consecutive meetings.
Of the nine board members, we believe only the most hawkish member Takata is likely to argue for consecutive rate hike.
The BOJ has so far maintained that the underlying inflation,
inflation, excluding one of factors such as energy prices or following the exchange, is approaching 2%.
But has yet to reach it to 2%.
However, major media reports that the BOJ is leaning toward judging that inflation has reached 2%.
This would come 14 years after the BOJ first set its 2% target.
Going forward, we expect the BOJ to continue raising rates as the adjustment of the degree of monetary accommodation by around 2 or 3 more hikes.
At 3 month intervals, as it confirms that the underlying inflation has become family entrenched at 2%.
Okay, got it. So it sounds like a pause for now.
And then in terms of the tone, what are you expecting from the quarterly outlook and anything significant to watch out for from the press conference as well?
We expect the GDP outdrug to revised upward for FY2026.
And the CPI outdrug should be literally changed for FY2026, but revised upward for FY2027.
The upward revision to the inflation outdrug will reflect higher oil prices with core CPI, inflation, excluding fresh food, expected to remain in the mid-2% range in both 2026 and 2027.
On the other hand, there is so far no evidence of second-round effects on wages.
We believe the outdrug for inflation to ease to around 2% year-on-year in 2028 will remain unchanged.
At the press conference after the meeting, attention will focus on whether the weather signals rate hike at its next meeting in December.
Markets have already priced in about 80% probability of a next rate hike.
We would like to see whether weather uses the expression like next meeting.
Okay, interesting. Yeah, let's see here.
Thank you very much. Thank you, Ivan. For the rest of the region, we also have a couple of central banks to watch RBNZ and BOT, which we both expect to keep their policy rates unchanged.
Although it's a relatively close call for the RBNZ, we assign a 60% probability to our base case of an unchanged cash rate versus a 40% chance that they could deliver at 25 base points hike.
In the Bank of Thailand, we expect a unanimous vote again for the MPC because growth is below potential and the BOT sees the need for one entire policy to remain accommodative.
And you might even argue that they could sound a bit dovish because we think they can cut their CPA implementation forecast to 2% from 2.8 to quite substantial and indicate that the pass through effects were lower than they first expected.
Speaking of inflation, we have the all-important headline CPI data for Australia.
We think it's going to rise by a firm 0.4% month and month in September, boosted by volatile and seasonal items, including higher fuel and accommodation costs.
With this, however, we think the trim mean CPI will be likely better behaved rising by around 0.2 month and month.
And then finally, we have China official manufacturing PMI data. It should moderate to 49.8 for the month and October, reflecting a pool back following a seasonal rebound in previous month.
And then the official non-manufacturing PMI is also likely to soften to around 50, owing to weak travel demand during the National Day or Golden Week holiday.
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
AI-driven demand for computing and memory is outpacing supply, creating a significant shortage that will take at least three years to resolve due to long lead times in building new manufacturing capacity.
Market sentiment remains overly pessimistic about AI profitability, focusing on high-profile losses among AI firms and cloud providers, while overlooking strong earnings potential in select memory and semiconductor companies.
The AI supply chain faces structural delays, with major investments in capacity requiring multi-year timelines from greenfield setup to operational output, meaning supply will not catch up to demand for years.
A key risk is macroeconomic capital scarcity—global tech firms are ramping up trillions in AI-related spending, which could strain financial markets and lead to capital shortages for less financially resilient firms.
Central banks like the Fed, ECB, and BOJ are expected to hold rates steady in the near term, with the Fed likely delaying a rate hike until December due to midterm election timing and hawkish Fed rhetoric.
France’s financial stress is spilling into Europe, shown by widening bond spreads, raising concerns about contagion and possible ECB intervention, though current levels do not yet trigger action.
The ECB is cautious about activating tools like TPI, preferring to monitor inflation and wage trends before intervening, and may avoid direct answers on rate hikes.
Japan’s BOJ is expected to maintain its current policy rate but may begin gradual rate hikes in early 2025 if underlying inflation reaches and sustains 2%, signaling a shift toward tighter monetary policy.
Summary:
The global tech sector, particularly semiconductors and AI-related industries, is facing a structural supply shortage driven by rapid demand growth. Despite market concerns over profitability, the underlying demand for memory and computing power remains strong, with supply constrained by lengthy manufacturing timelines—up to three years for new capacity. Experts emphasize that only a few key players are profitable, and broad sentiment is skewed by negative headlines from high-profile firms.
A major risk is a macroeconomic capital crunch, as global firms commit trillions to AI infrastructure, creating intense competition in capital markets. S. Fed is likely to delay rate hikes until December due to election timing and market signals; the ECB may hold rates steady in October and avoid action despite rising France-linked bond spreads, which signal early contagion concerns; the BOJ will likely pause rates but may begin gradual tightening in early 2025 if inflation stabilizes.
Other regional economies, including Australia and Thailand, are also under review, with inflation and growth data shaping policy outlooks. Overall, while the AI transition is underway, the supply chain remains fragile, and financial and macroeconomic risks remain significant.
FAQs
The memory sector is constructive because AI demand is strong and growing rapidly, creating significant supply-demand imbalances. While supply can't catch up quickly due to long build times, the demand is expected to persist and grow over time.
The chip shortage is expected to last at least three years due to the physical limitations of building new clean rooms and installing equipment. New supply may not materialize until 2028, even if demand continues to grow.
The primary risk is that AI may not deliver the expected value, leading to capital shortages. Major tech firms are investing heavily in AI infrastructure, and if macroeconomic conditions or government funding can't support these investments, some companies may face financial strain.
The Fed is unlikely to hike in November due to the upcoming midterm elections and recent hawkish statements that signal rate stability. A hike is more likely in December, though it depends on inflation data and market pressures.
Core CPI is expected to rise to around 32 basis points month-on-month, driven by stronger inflation in services and goods, including tech-related items, which have raised inflation concerns for the Fed.
The ECB is expected to hold rates steady in October and may raise them in December and March, with a terminal rate of 3% by March next year. Intervention through TPI is unlikely due to high thresholds and concerns about contagion.
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