The Vatican vs. Thiel, Trump Ex’s New SQUEEZE & Snowden goes NUCLEAR on AI | Julian Dorey

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Every real episode we always miss one. It seems lately. Hell, yeah. And that's pretty much my bed because then I'll say at the beginning of an episode, then we'll finish wrapping them like, fuck, I missed that again. But there was one thing on the previous episode I just wanted to come back around to because it's going to tie into the first thing we talk about, which is when we were going through specifically like the Kylie Jenner part and the, I guess, like vlog she did in San Trope the other day. We were using it in the context of an example of where it's a full blown let them eat cake moment that's going on between people who are of a lot of means in society and everybody else. And the reality is this, I think it's important that, you know, success itself does get demonized. So we can all shoot for things and success, by the way, is totally defined individually like within America, at least, you know, people decide what's important for them in life and then hopefully achieve their dreams and do that. Like I never want to demonize that. I don't want to be misheard demonizing people doing really well or something like that. Where I take issue is when people throw it in your face and have to show you over like engorged opulence at all times and have to tell you how great everything is for them when you can't read the room and see that a lot of people are having a tough time right now. The economy is not great. Gas is through the fucking roof. We're not fucking more apparently. You know, so that's, that's the dichotomy there. I just want to make sure that the context is right because we keep seeing it. We keep seeing tone deafness and now we're seeing it from the administration. So Joey D if you see our friend Howard Letnick was there at the G dinner. Yeah, was he? What do you have to say? He speaks Chinese. Right. I think he does speak Chinese. I have a link there in that first section so we could pull it up for people. But like, again, it is now fucking seven, eight months on from when this guy got exposed to kingdom fucking come in the Epstein files as being a clear liar. Obviously, the guy was neighbors with Epstein for at least 14 years when he started living in a house in 2005 minus the one and a half when Epstein was the guest of the government. But you know, claimed he never saw anything, claimed he knew nothing, claimed he didn't associate with him. You know, after that insane little meeting he had at Epstein's house in 2005 and then it was proven in the files that not only did he associate with Epstein in business, philanthropy, and personally. It was literally listed on the schedule over and over. We got a picture of this guy on the island that then the DOJ tried to have removed. I believe they did remove it from the Epstein file release. But thanks to whoever is doing God's work at J-Mail.world that it already made a carbon copy of all this stuff. We still have the image of Howard Letnick on the island with Jeffrey Epstein in 2012 looking happy as a claim. Hey guys, if you're not following me on Spotify, please hit that follow button and leave a five-star review. They're both a huge help. Thank you. But Howard Letnick of course was at the dinner with President of China, Xi. And middle picture right there, the right on cue, Elon Musk and Howard Letnick doing that kind of gay, like Howard Letnick stands that he does, I don't really know. Like he does, go to the other picture too deep with Tim Cook right there. He does this in all his pictures. What's going on there? He's star unfold. Yeah, but it looks like he's like, I don't know, constricted a little bit. It doesn't look like that comfortable of an arm fold. Like an arm fold should be comfortable kind of like this, but he's doing like the grip. Maybe I'm over reading it a little bit. Yeah, it's just crazy people still want to take a picture with him. That's what I don't understand. Yeah, I wouldn't get in a picture with him. Like if you're Elon Musk, this is now twice Elon Musk has been doing that pose with him in a picture. Yeah, I'm going to pass a few months. With all of the file releases, I would just be like, I'm good homie. Yeah. I'll see you at work on Monday. Yeah, it's just getting like who was saying the other day, who were we talking with, who was talking about how open they are about it? And he was joking. He's like, I almost appreciate that part. At least we can see it. Who the hell was that? Yeah, who did say that? That was in here. Oh, I think it was Simon Dixon when we were talking with him. He's like, yeah, the thing about the Trump administration is like, they just tell you what they're doing at least. So you could see the corruption and everything. They don't like take the time to try to hide it, which is like a hilariously low bar obviously. But point being, these are the kinds of things that do happen behind the scenes and they are seemingly so high, pollutant and so up on their little fucking asteroid, no pun intended, that they're like, yeah, we'll just show you and what are you going to do about it? And then you have the guy Dan Scavino, there's another link right there, speaking of reading the room. Now, this is AI Slop, obviously. But there were videos going around, I don't even remember where they are because I was looking for them right before we went on, I couldn't find them. But there were videos of like some of the wives of these people going around and taking in all the opulence of the dinner and everything and bragging about and saying, look at our life, look how great this is for this White House dinner, was she? But then you have like Dan, you know, who's been Trump's spokesperson since forever, since literally the first campaign. When you just, like again, I understand it's AI Slop and stuff, just don't tweet, just don't do it. You're popping champagne, quirks, and bottles and shit for people while people out there can't pay their bills. Like who do you click again, you're not like some fucking Wall Street CEO who maybe doesn't have to care or something. It's still really bad. Look, by the way, you are literally, though, working in the White House administration that's supposed to serve all the American people, including the people that didn't vote for you, by the way. So again, I'm not really sure what they're, what they're trying to do here, but it's interesting. Yeah, it's definitely interesting. I just, it just speaks to the power in hand. Yes. They would read the, I would read the room if I had something to lose and I had to be careful because I could be exposed, apprehended, whatever the reason, but they don't, they're not going to be, none of those things are going to be done upon them. So why would they care about reading the room? Yeah, you think there's just going to be like mass partens on the way out the door? For sure, dude, for sure. That's why Howard is doing what he does. A guy like that, he knows he's, like he's good, he's covered. Even if anything happens before the end of term two, he set God, God us, God, God us, you know, that's right. That's right. You see the guest list on this thing? No, I didn't. Now, before I go through some of this, I will say it is like a dinner with the leader of the other, of the world's other largest GDP. So of course, any guest list is going to be pretty loaded with quote, unquote, important people, but this one must like, little over the top. So we can, we can kind of skip the administration people, they're, they're all supposed to be there. But I know, I know all these people too for the Chinese. That's right. I know them as well. Ki Wei, Hong Le, Lu Lu Ha, Zhu Hong, these are kind of hard names. Yeah. That's why that's why they're in delegation. Zeng Yang Chao. That's a good one. That's fine. All right. So what I really want to get at was the power brokers there in the room. So deep, there was actually an image of Trump's table, and it had like, I think Elon was at it. Tim Cook was at it. Zuckerberg was at it. They're like the net worth of this table is like 1.19 trillion. I'm sure. Yeah. I saw that. It's like, yeah. Anyway, but Elon was there. Jensen Wang, the Nvidia guy who I don't think has ever changed his jacket. It was there. Mark Zuckerberg, Lisa Sue, that one I don't know who she is, Tim Cook, Sam Altman, Greg Brockman, Sergey Brin from Google, Sundar Pichai from Google, Satya Nadella, the CEO of Microsoft, Jeff Bezos, Michael Dell, Eric Wan, Cristiano Alman. I don't, he's from Qualcomm. I don't know him, Sanjay Mahotra, and David Ellis, of course, we have to have an Ellison there. Got to get what's a good dinner without an Ellison. Then we have all the bankers, obviously, who care a lot about Americans, Jamie Dimon, David Salman from Goldman Sachs, Larry Fink from BlackRock, of course, the chairman of the board out of check-ins, Steven Schwartzman from Blackstone, Ryan McInerney from Visa, again. You are always going to have important people in these kinds of things, but kind of stacked deck for this one, for the optics, Joey Dief. Meet new grippy setting mist from Mabelie, New York. Gel to mist technology locks in your look for up to 24 hours, with flexible all-day comfy grip. No tightness, no stickiness, no residue, just plum, dewy, hydrated skin that still feels like your skin. I knew grippy setting mist from Mabelie, New York. Maybe it's Mabelie. Industry consumer. Oh, look, we had Albert Borla from Pfizer there. That's important. That's important. I'm sure he had a lot to talk about. We did very good work on that last one, gentlemen. We did great work on that last one, gentlemen. Now, there is the dichotomy also of what Donald Trump was saying about China way back in the day. He was running. I'm what he's saying now. So let's run that 2015 piece first. And this is when Trump's first running for office. And one of the things I really liked on like the Trump platform in 2015 was talking about the trade deficits with China and talking about the threat that that could be economically to America from like eventually having maybe not having the dollars or reserve currency and stuff like that because we rely to this day on so much of our supply chain going through China, which is also feeding their GDP like crazy. And a lot of presidents were just feeding right into this unchecked. And I that was one topic like I knew a little bit about. And some of his takes were pretty good. This was his take though in 2015. Listen. Okay. That's definitely not to take whose whose take was that? Oh, it's the stump. Oh, the Dan Scavina. That's the song. That was on man. Oh, yeah. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. You're right. All right. Here we go. The president of China is coming. A man named Xi Jinping. Xi Jinping. I never heard of him. I don't know who he is. But he's the president. He's coming over. He's getting the big dinner free at the White House, addressing the UN. If you were president, would you throw him a big dinner? I would not be throwing him a dinner. We've had this conference. I'd get him a McDonald's hamburger and say we got to get down to work because you can't continue to devalue you know, we'll give him a state dinner. And what he's done is sucked all of our jobs and we suck the money that's in our country. Okay. That was kind of based. Now let's run 2026. Joey Deef. And here they are at the Holes of President, well, Donald Trump is showing him Joe Biden's portrait of an auto pin. Get the little, he fucking hit some, it's okay, get a little bit of Xi. I will say it does crack me up the way like they make Xi to be like this big fucking idiot in 2015 and like that is exactly what that man wanted and he is reaping so much fruit from that. Yeah. The way he's been underestimated is just that cracks me up on. That's my biggest takeaway for all that. I agree completely this Xi, this Jingping pork roasted pork and it's like, no, you dumb asses. He's about to fucking trick on you guys. Yeah, never, never underestimate the intelligence to some of these guys. You can totally disagree with methods and policies and stuff like that, obviously including in our own government, but don't underestimate the intelligence for sure. And it's, and by the way, how many, can we Google this real quick? How many executive orders has Donald Trump signed in term two? Okay, so 285 executive orders as of September 2026. How many executive orders did Biden sign in the first two years of his administration? I've never looked at this in the first two years in the first two years of his administration. Let's see what they give us. So we have 285 from Trump and then for Biden, 106, that's lower than I thought. So that's really interesting because obviously like the auto pen story, which Donald Trump is showing us is Joe Biden's board, which I don't, I will say this, it is funny. I don't think that's a good look to be bringing in a foreign leader. And like going through the presidency, your country and being like, hey, get a load of this. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, it's one of those things, keep business in the family. They would never do that over there in China. He just killed the old guy, right? Like we've seen that. Xi Jinping will just make someone disappear, but like if, right, if a delegation comes over there and they say, look at our history, this is great. They say he was a great man, and murdered him, but he was a great man. Listen, listen, just overstate his welcome. Yeah, that's it. That's it. That's, that's good business. It is ironic that whether Joe Biden knew what he was signing or not, which that's certainly up for debate as well. It is ironic that Trump signing way more executive orders than Biden, when that was a huge, again, it's like pointing in the mirror, Spider-Man meme, huge talking point for Trump on the campaign trail about all the shit that Biden just does with the pen. And he seems to be doing way, way more of it. Very interesting. You know what else he's doing with a pen, Joey Deef? What's that? Sign in some pardons. Yeah. You need a pardons, Joe? I'll take one. You take one? Yeah, fuck it. Like a preemptive party? Yeah, a preemptive, like I'll keep it in the back pocket and cash it in. Now, now what would the crimes be on a general basis? Like, not paying parking tickets and weapons possession. Grab drug distribution, all those things. No sex trafficking, right? No. You're not going to need that one. No. That's like the last thing I'm worried about, if anything, it's just keeping this chopper on me at all times. The chopper on you. Yeah. That's a Glock 18. I'm aware. No. Is that registered with the government? No. It's a straw purchase. No registered. Okay. I registered a hammer since I came out the womb, okay. And the hammer that got registered when that came out the womb, it was me, a child. We'll get you a pardons for that, Joe. Thank you. It's going to cost a lot of money, though. Yeah. Have you heard about this? No, I have. Because my boy, Boosey, getting fucked over. Oh, yeah. Boosey. What was it? He was trying to pay 600K for his pardon in the terms of his contract. If they were not able to deliver the pardon, he would get 50% back, 300,000, but he didn't. And they were like, yeah, now like that, that should don't hold up. And he was like, Boosey, take him to court, take him to court and take him for everything they're worth. So let's run this video. 60 minutes did a report on this. And before we press play on the video, Joe, you and I are well versed, unfortunately, in understanding that this is not a new phenomenon because our friend, John Kiriakus, been blowing the whistle on this forever. Yep. So John told the story even a couple of years ago on a podcast with man. He was telling it before it, before he ever did my podcast as well about how in his part in Odyssey, he went to a dinner in DC, I forget where it was, but he was told that he was going to be like meeting with Rudy Giuliani, who's friends with Trump, and that they'd be able to get a pardon. And at some point, Giuliani went up to go to the bathroom and one of the other like fixers told him what the price was and the price, there was already going to be a price on. I forget what it was. The numbers, I can't remember them right now, but John did talk about there's already going to be a price and John was like, well, that's fucking shady, but whatever. And then basically they like quadrupled the price right there. He was like, fuck that. I'm not doing this. No, no. You take your pardon and shove it up your ass. And so he did not get a pardon there, but it's very telling by the way that when you see all the people Trump's pardoning, which may be actually, Dave, can you just real quick ask for highlights of people Trump is pardoned who were very shady. I don't know. Something like that. He probably shouldn't part. When you look at all the partings that Trump is doing throughout his presidency, and then you think about John Karyaku, who's now like, you know, a worldwide phenomenon. By the way, all the kids like him, you know, the fact that John has had so many prominent people publicly asked the president for years, by the way, for a pardon. And the fact that so many people write letters on behalf of John to get a pardon. I have a source that said that they get more letters at the White House for a pardon for John Karyaku than anyone else that is up for a pardon or asking for a pardon by a lot. Like buy a lot. So, you know, this is not a new thing and yet he's never been able to get one Because he's never paid a pardon broker or and we're gonna talk about exactly that report in a minute or go on in there and Try to get one through financial means if you will, you know I told you about the one time and he said fuck that whereas all these other people They're like, yeah, I want my part and let me pay for it I just don't understand how that is not blatantly illegal like I don't know how there's not a codified law That you can't pay lobbyists to go lobby for a pardon Like that's that's insane That's it. Oh, yeah, remember this one Juan Orlando Hernandez former president of Honduras So he was serving 45 years for conspiring to bring 400 tons of coke into the you it's a little coke It's a little it's a little coke Joey deep Trump Trump tied the pardon to his endorsement of the candidate in Honduras his election lawmakers in both parties objected saying it undercut The administration's own campaign against drug trafficking This one was like right after Venezuela too and like obviously we've we've named the cartels terrorist organizations And so they lock up a foreign leader who was clearly running as like a cocaine kingpin in the Honduras 400 days that's a little bit just a tiny bit. That's not a Pablo Pledge Cupar amount Joey deep, but it's it'll do right and Then you go pardon a guy like this. I I agree with what both parties said it completely undercuts your message He also Remember when he did the Binance founder. Yeah, what's his name Zee or whatever? Changping Zhao he pleaded guilty to money and laundering violations of Binance paid a 4.3 billion dollar penalty so Departing came a week after dawn junior introduced a Zao lobbyist to Trump so it they're not even hiding it the president's son introduced a lobbyist to Trump and he pardoned him And this is the one the Trump commented after he's like yeah, I was actually totally unfamiliar with him when he did the pardon Like he didn't even he really didn't even know who the guy was and and what it is You know, so he's done many of these there's other guys who have been convicted of all kinds of fraud and shit For and I've seen numbers that are in the tens of millions and he just pardons them That's a rock and yet he won't pardon John Kiriaku. It's interesting It's very very interesting. I also do know that And this is one thing I really respect about John I Know that a rather prominent person Called John This is a while back. This is during Trump admin one, but it's a while back a rather prominent person called John and said don't shoot the messenger But I'm just telling you this You're talking about a lot of shit online There's a couple things that if you just don't talk about it You're probably gonna get your pardon and to John's credit. I can verify. He has not stopped talking about those things in any way In fact, he just took the decibels and went and turned away the fuck up after that and so he's got principles, but I've been bearing the lead on the actual party brokers. Joey. He has the video up This was from the 60 minutes report where they interviewed two guys who couldn't possibly be more stereotypical stand-ins for exactly what you think these people look like. Let's go ahead How come you you quoted 300,000 to I'll break this down because because he's busy what we quote somebody A big part of those factors is other criminal history If somebody's got a rap sheet a mile long, obviously, it's gonna be much harder for us to make the case of receive a pardon Much you see his lapel Nice dual flag of America and Israel playing the part. Go ahead So that's if that rap sheet continues after the fact and so we look at the cases. We decide How difficult they're going to be how much in the way of resources are going to require and how much time from a standpoint of Opportunity cost of other clients be paying the cost so you were telling the convenience that part of the Thousand dollars would go to buy tickets to fund raising events at Mar-a-Lago Or bedmins are that the president attended not necessarily no No, what we said is there's expenses involved including travel two events which we may or may not otherwise Tomato tomato bottom line is that there's expenses involved but of course the lion sure of this is We're paid and we make money. There's nothing wrong with that. There's no political contributions as we said many times And so there's really I don't understand the well, I guess the issue is is it in some way paid a play no Withers no paid a party absolutely not absolutely not paid nearly a million dollars for what? For our advocacy and our services and our strategic a lot of this is our strategic Million dollars Sounds like an enormous amount of money Three hundred thousand dollars I would I would encourage you to look up the lobbying fees of our competitors and all the right Oh, they got it's a whole industry our top five competitors. This is the big competitive It's at the advocacy requires years of knowledge and training and working in government and all right So let me let me let me walk you through this he knows a guy who knows a guy He gets a little fucking past to go into the White House. He walks back there and says hey, how you doing? What do you think we can we get this pardon done? Can we get it? And here's my list give me three out of ten and at least I could say I hit three out of ten That's the advocacy is talking about like this isn't like that hard Everyone has a sheet of crimes that they did or whatever some are gonna be worse than others And you got to convince them of like lucky they community service look he apologized for it or whatever look feel bad for him because of x Y or z like a fucking Eighth grader could probably do enough to be able to get the point across if you needed to but these people are out here charging a million dollars I love how Leslie Stahl said that by the way. She's like Christ, you know It's charging a million dollars to walk in there and ask for a pardon and then when they get asked like you know How is this not paid to play they're like? No, that murder That they then literally use five dollar words to explain ten dollar words to explain exactly how it's paid a play It's like it's not paid a play. It's playing to pay That's it you see what this is you see what this is. It's just Jedi mind tricks Joey This is boozy sir He made the 2010 hit album and incarcerated and we would love if you gave him a part And why'd you charge him double well? He's black. Oh, that's that's and that's how you know That's what these guys are like 100% like it's a rapper. He's got stacks back there and they're like you double it up They said you you mentioned your mother's Jewish Okay, well Yeah, yeah for for double the fee. It's your lucky day, but like also how much hubris do you have to have? To be those two guys and Genuinely agreed to do this interview Well, it kind of comes back to the whole reading the room thing Yeah, like I just I just think they're like listen who gives a fuck people are gonna they're gonna say what they got to say I got a I got that tea time tomorrow. That's all I care about all right, so I'm gonna do 60 minutes on the way Yeah, fuck it fucking Leslie star fuck these fuck these disgusting scum That should be washing my car They should be cleaning my fucking shoes these pieces of shit. Oh, hi nice to meet you names, whatever. That's that's how it is That's it and just the way they talk to like I I don't know anyone like personally. Yeah as a friend in any capacity who talks that way that's not a real person talk Yeah, that's just straight bull shit. It's it is it is a corporate lawyerist fucking K street. Yep Whatever that what I don't know what that accent is. I'm unfamiliar. It's just reptile talk. Yeah, reptile talk Without you know, I'm joking, but like that's just reptile. They could be reptiles. Yeah, you never know. You never know probably not but Yeah, maybe that's like what they think the accent you know advocacy is So much training so much years of experience. That's right. So much. It's just like hearing them talk like that It's just like hey go fuck yourself guys. Yes. Yes. I could not agree more But what's really nice is that at least the administration is getting richer So you know how would let next get can we google that as well, Joey? I'll get to our boy Jared Kushner a second, but Howard Lutnik's net worth has increased a lot in Trump term two I just want to get the specific amount right so that I don't give any stolen or false valor We're the Howard So Howard Lutnik and his family's net worth has more than doubled to approximately $3 billion since he joined President Donald Trump's Cabinet as Commerce Secretary. So, Joedeef, since January 2025, it is now October, 2027 or 2026, effectively, okay? I'm trying to skip a year right there. Oh my God, we're getting far. But imagine setting your makeup, then forgetting it's even theirs. Meet new grippy setting mist from Mavily New York. 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I'm going to make sure everyone's on their pees and queues, but I might slip a couple 20s. 100%. 100%. 50s out of the pile as I'm dealing and taking care of all the, you know, my constituents. I'm going to take my paste. That's it, you know? Just a little big to the top. Just a little paste on the back end. Which is, this is hilarious, because again, that's why they're not reading the room. That's why none of these people are reading the fucking room. And this is the part I do think about a lot, because it's not just the administration. Like we started the conversation from the last episode, just talking about like people in general, you know, in elite circles of billions of dollars to Kylie Jenner, whoever it may be, all these people going out of their way to show you their opulence and what they do and show you their corruption and the marriage between the corporate elite and the political elite and then, you know, the entertainment elite in some cases as well. It's like the obviousness of it is at an all time high with this presidential administration, but all these guys are doing this. And I keep hearing from some people about people getting second passports. You know, that's what we're talking about at the end of last episode with Jared Kushner. And people, you know, buy an island. We've talked about that with Jared Kushner specifically and some other people and some people who maybe know some things openly hoarding assets and hitting the red button on trying to increase their investments and squeeze out. That's what it feels like to me, Joy-Deeve. Like they're squeezing out whatever last bit they can from, you know, the toothpaste to get it on the toothbrush before something happens. And of course, and I don't love thinking like this, but when I see a pattern like this so blatantly happening over what's been a fairly long period of time right now over the past couple years, especially, you know, tool passports buying land, sucking up money from everyone inside or trading just out in the open across the board, across political parties, across donor parties and all that. I do ask myself, what do they know? What do they know that you and I don't? Because I'd love to, I'd love to find out. And my head does go back to my conversation with Doug Rushkov a little bit. I can't help that. Yeah. I think assignment to the other day now, kind of with just like the transition of the financial and industrial complex. Like it's not, it's not, it might not be that these people are like, oh yeah, America's about to disappear and never exist and fail yada yada. It's more so like, hey, hey, this ain't going to be the center of the universe anymore. And we're just going to slowly start hedging our bets, making sure we're all ready to go, because I don't know if it was him or another guess we had recently, but just, you know, we're not around these people either, like the way like a king used to have to like walk through the town square and could get fucking tomatoes thrown at him. Like it's just so much harder like the disconnect between, you know, the people and the, you know, the ones we serve or what have you, but like, you know, none of these people, back in the day, they'd just get fucking ran through the streets and guillotineed. Yeah. That's why they don't read the room now because it's like they're just so far removed. They don't have to worry. They're so far removed and people are controlled enough that they feel confident and comfortable to be able to do it with impunity. Yeah. We're talking about Kimberly Guilful. Exactly. Well, even like the AI videos of like this Xi Jinping dinner, like, and again, they could be bots, but like I just saw it, like there's just so many replies that are like the opposite of us. They're like, fuck, yeah, like this fucking admin, like, like, like, it's just if you are, if these are real people, a lot of them aren't like, yeah, I pray to God, they're not because a lot of them are not straight to the glue factory. I'm sorry. Yeah. It's, it's like, there's no, if you are sitting at home in your shitty house, they, you're under water and you're looking at, and you're looking at that going, this is fucking awesome. Back then, like you get to be there with them when they would escort you off the premises. So fucking, you would be 10 miles from the premises, you'd be escorted off like yesterday's trash. Literally. If you tried to do that, like, I mean, God help you if you're actually that person. But yeah, the, the bot activity across the spectrum, especially on X is absurd. And you remember the numbers when, remember when Elon was buying and he was trying to back out because the, he was thought that the numbers shared on bots were actually way worse than what they told him. And it was already bad. I don't remember what they were, but it was like an insane, insane number. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I just think that if anyone thinks this is cool, you're a huge fucking dumbass. And that's the nice way to put it. I love you. I agree. I do wonder what they're doing with this money though. Like rich people do some interesting things as we well know with money. Like the whole like put money through fine art and some of that stuff, like they find ways to make the most money and then use loopholes because they got a lot of resources to be able to figure it out, that limit their taxes and increase their gains. The tale is always time. But I'd love to know with all this hoarding going on, when you see $600 million here, $2 billion there or whatever, where that's going. Are they going to Gaza? No, I'm dead ass. I'm like, that is not even a joke. Like this is the type of shit that like they're going to go and start building resorts in Gaza and you'll see the fucking cushioners going back, a huge development project. Yeah. Of shopping and luxury hotels. Let's take it a second layer, though, too. I want to know how much of it and in the immediate term, they are moving completely out of something that has to do or is based upon US dollars. Yeah. That's what I want to know, because that would give you a big answer as to what they think. But like Doug Rushkov was talking about, you know, these billionaires talking about the event. Yeah, the event. So for people who didn't see that episode, I think that was number 450, and who didn't hear me talk about it afterwards, just as a refresher. Doug, is a long time tech futurist, really, really funny guy, too, very eccentric, very, smart. And he was his kind of claim to fame was when he was young in the early 90s. He basically predicted the idea of what the internet would become, specifically like internet 2.0 and stuff like that. So, you know, that got him a lot of notoriety in a good way like in that space is being someone you talk to about these things to try to evaluate the trends. And to his credit for about six, seven years now, he's been coming public about this meeting that he had in 2017 out West, he was paid to do a speaking engagement. And so he goes out there and to his surprise when he walked into the room where he was going to be doing it, it was not a full crowd of people, but it was five billionaires. And he recognized some of them. But they weren't, these are not, I'm not allowed to say who one of them was that I did guess who it was off camera. But these are not like Elon Musk, Sam Altman, stuff like that. These are very more nondiscreet billionaires. And so what these guys, nondiscreet billionaires, I'm sorry, what these guys were saying is they all had notebooks out and they were nonchalantly matter of factly referring to this thing called the event. And it was a foregone conclusion, it was like, yo, is this going to happen? It was, it wasn't like that. It was, it was like, no, this is happening. So we got to prepare. And the event could have been anything like they were saying it could be some sort of, you know, disaster with the climate, it could be some sort of AI disaster, it could be some sort of pandemic, whatever. But something's happening, it's going to happen in the next 15, 20 years. And we're building our bunkers because we want to be prepared when the population is, you know, totally undercut. Yeah. And you wonder like when you see all this open hoarding, Joey Deef, if I knew shit was coming and a lot of people who would criticize me, weren't even going to be around to criticize me if that happened, I wouldn't give a fuck if they saw it either. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Literally. Like, and that's a real doomer, not nice thing to think about. And I don't think that's happening. But like I can't sit here and completely rule it out when I see all these patterns playing out at the same time. Yeah. I don't know. I just, I do have, I believe, believe that these people just don't really care. And that's why they operate the way they do. We've reached a point now of like no return, like it's like full immunity. And it's not even just Trump admin. It's everyone within this whole machine. Yeah, look at all the patterns that Biden did on the way out the door for all his people as well, which set a dangerous president. I said it when they were going after Trump for political law fair, even during his first administration. That was, that was a hard red line for me because, and I want to be careful how I say this. I don't in a perfect world, especially no one should be above the law or whatever. But I could see that some of the things in that case that they were going after Trump on were bullshit. Right? Now you can go after a million things and no one's going after them, which is interesting. But I could see that it was political law fair. And the minute that that happens, you set precedent, which then makes the other side, then say when the shoes on our foot, we're going to do this step in. And so then, you know, they went after Trump during in between the two administrations, like crazy, which I think really helped put him in office. Like that's the, yeah, that's what I wonder if it was just not your cooking game. Go ahead by design. Could be, I mean, where we stories are the, that is the backbone of our fucking country and our, in our world. And they made, they made a great story out of the whole thing. And he was kicked to the ground. He got the mug shot down, got the mug shot. Got shot at. Got shot at an assassination attempt that I even thought about once in the past like three months, you know, like, yeah, it's the perfect story. The perfect comeback, you get all these people who treat them like it's their first uncle or their own father. And it's just perfect. It is the perfect design to just roll in this fucking tom foolery that goes unchecked and unscathed. I think it's very reasonable, positive. You got right there. Yeah, for sure. I think it more and more. It could be either way publicly like at what you look at it, sets precedent. Yeah. So now you see it going, you know, pendulum swinging. Yeah. And they're going to keep doing that every time, which means they're also going to accept the fact that part of business is that, you know, you take carry your own soldiers on the way out the door. Yeah. You pardon people and stuff, which then makes the bar for wanting to fuck things up on the way there. A lot lower because you're like, well, we could just clean it up later. I'll get a pardon. Yeah, I'll just get a part. I just sounds part of my whole family and shit. You know what I mean? Like that's, you know, now you got a hundred buying and doing like podcast tours everywhere. Yeah. You know, if you don't think that's going to be the same thing with this one, with the Trump admin, I mean, I've got a fucking bridge to sell you. Yeah, that would be fun. Yeah, it's just, when I see them all, like I agree with you, Dave, that they've passed the point of not giving a fuck, I just want to know why. I don't, I would love the simple answer to be, it's just all hubris, which maybe it is. Maybe that is the simple answer and they just are genuinely demons who don't care. Yeah. Very possible. And that seems to be where you're at, Joey, Dave. I wonder if like the back five, 10% play though is actually, you know, probability is actually this, this is some shit going on. Yeah. And we're going to find out about it later when it's too late. I think the answer is in the middle of that. Maybe. I think it's like they don't give a shit, but they also know they're like, oh, Havana, that's going to be, you know, like, that's right. Not Havana. Yeah, what, what's happening with Havana? I haven't heard about that. I don't know. I saw that we're going to be making some moves on Cuba though the other day. But they've been saying that now for like a year. I'm not saying it's not going to happen. Don't put anything past these. Yeah, I mean, Nick Shirley hit boots on the ground and he got everyone ready to roll. But now they haven't been doing nothing about it. That's right. So, but Cuba and US will make a deal. That's per Trump's prediction. That's what he's saying. Yeah, that's routers yesterday too. Oh, so he's looking for a deal. Yeah, but we were, we were doing rolling blackouts on them for a while with their power grid and stuff. I mean, they've been getting it for sure. Yeah, they've, we definitely have not let that just sit. Well, Jared Kushner is getting a lot richer too, which again, he was going to be leaving political life. I think we said that 40 million times. I just want to remind people once again, he was going to be leaving political life at the end of Trump administration one. Yet here we are, failed negotiator and Lisa's getting wealthy along the way. Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, has increased his net worth by over 220%. So he has more than tripled his net worth. That's bad. The biggest percentage increase among Forbes top 100 wealth, top 400 wealthiest Americans. His value has increased to 16.7 billion dollars since 2025. We need 300 for a movie, Joey. Like that is just such horseshit. It's crazy. He's on the top 400 list, dude. What a legend. I can't think of, Matt, of anything that he's done in business that has added significant value anywhere. So his real estate investments like the famous one was at 555 Park Avenue in New York was underwater. He's a disaster. He's done a couple things in Jersey City, but I'm sorry, you're not getting worth 16.7 billion in Jersey City. What is he built? What has he done that represents any value to people, let alone a value of 16.7 billion dollars in his pocket? I agree. I'm like, I don't even know what you do. I think point being I think he's just completely failed upward, which means the game is rigged for him, which is not news to any of us. Obviously, but kind of interesting. It's also nice though that in the middle of the war, our Secretary of War is a great investor as well. You see that? Yeah. Even Pete. Yeah, yeah. Hit that article real fast. In February about making a multi-million dollar investment in the eye shares defense industrials active ETF. He's like, by all of them, we're going to war. The investment discussed by Hague says broker ultimately did not go ahead. That's nice. He pulled out. He pulled out. So he went into the stall with the hooker. He had not paid her yet. And then before his pants were all the way down, he said, you know what? I thought better of this. I'm a moral man. A bit of God. I'm a man of God. That's right. The Pentagon chief spokesman Sean Parnell dismissed the report on X calling it entirely false and fabricated. Well, let's get the details of the report. Well, you can decide for yourself. A broker for U.S. Defense Secretary of P Hague says sought to make a large investment in major defense companies in the lead up to the Iran war. According to the Financial Times, the Pentagon has dismissed the report. Financial Times reported Tuesday that Hague says broker at banking giant Morgan Stanley contacted BlackRock in February about making a multi-million dollar investment in eye shares defense industrials active ETF. The ETF, which has about 3.1 billion dollars in assets, counts companies such as RTX formerly known as Raytheon, Lockheed Martin and Northern Grumman amongst its largest holdings BlackRock data showed. The defense industrial's active ETF has lost 12.4% over the past month around the time the war in Iran started according to LSEG data. The Financial Times also said the investment discussed by Hague says broker ultimately did not go ahead because the fund was not yet available for Morgan Stanley. Oh, so it just wasn't available yet. Hit us up when it is and we'll do some extra new attacks. It is unclear whether the broker found another defense related investment. Do we have like, when they do the publicly available financials on these guys, you get their holdings from the past year. Do we get the, for like the Secretary of War, the timing of his trades, like is there going to be a time where we can look at that? Obviously, this one, he didn't pull the trigger on, but we'll be able to see specifically like, oh, he pulled his broker pulled the trigger on X, Y and Z on February 25th or on March 24th. I'd love to know that for the cabinet role like that because people should be digging through that like crazy. I would be looking for it. We got that Kim Gulf oil story coming in a minute. She's a real gem. summary details. It says, I don't know like how, I think what is that actually mean? Yes, you can view summary details of Pete Higgs has financial transactions and holding through his public government ethics disclosures. According to CNBC, his 2225 annual financial disclosure released in September, 2026 reports at least 3.1 million in combined cash retirement investments and Bitcoin for him and his wife. Government ethics filings report assets and trades in Y-dollar ranges rather than exact amounts. There you go. So you get a range. The filing shows a single bank account holding more than 1 million and Bitcoin holdings valued between 16,000 and 65,000 according to courts. The disclosure documents are an extensive portfolio reshuffle in early 2025 stock sales. And then HiggsF unloaded shares of defense contractors like Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman alongside tech stocks like Apple and Amazon. These individual stock sales were filed by purchases in broad exchange. Oh, okay. I see what he did there. He was unloading the individual companies to say, okay, I got a personal relationship with many of these. But I'll buy the ETF that just has all. We'll hedge our bets a little bit. Perfect. Yeah, that is pretty perfect. But listen, I mean, he's prepping for the holy war. That's what he's doing. You know, and this is this is exactly what you want your secretary word doing. You want him making sure you get social media contact content of him with a bunch of recruits or I guess in this case, people who are already in the military, given a speech in the bleachers like it's fucking Rudy about the holy war. Let's run it from the Secretary of War PX. It's actually our first stop in what you see up on the screen right there, which we're calling the send me tour. The send me tour. Book of Isaiah. Book of Isaiah. Chapter six, first aid. Assuming they're all Lord said. Yeah. Who will I send? Isaiah says Lord, five years, send me. Send me. And if you think about it across the 250 years of our country, I know you've got 150 years of this great war here. Over 150 years of the country, there have been men, women who raised their right hand and they said send me send me to go fight the red coats. Send me to go fight the communist. Send me to go fight the Islamists. And you are saying send me to go fight whatever threats threaten our nation for the next 250 years. Okay, let's pause. There is something so gross about injecting religion on a bunch of trainees, some of which probably don't subscribe to at least that religion. There's something so absurd about doing that. And then specifically about making sure you get the camera angles and cuts to be able to put it on social media and brag about it while we're in the middle of a very unnecessary war that's breaking every campaign promise that they have. You know, I just, again, like this is a different kind of like in your face, Joey Dief. It's a different, it's it's it's a different chapter and verse, the pun intended of like let them eat cake. Yeah, I mean, that makes me want to throw up. Yeah. He's such a bum too. He is like they hired the Fox News guy to run the military. And we wonder why we have some issues. That's kind of interesting. Yeah. I mean, they just need, they just need some better optics on like some better cultural gets. You know, the youngsters aren't rocking with that. If you think you're going to get the youngsters with a fucking milk dud like that, you played yourself. Well, played yourself. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's well said. But there, there was a story that dropped this week about Kimberly Gilfoil from the Wall Street Journal. And it's very extensive. So before we, yeah, perfect, deep. So before we get to the story, I'm going to give you a roundup of like one of the many details that was that was in here. But Kimberly Gilfoil, if you don't remember, was Donald Trump Jr's fiance. And prior to that, she was on the five at Fox News. And prior to that, she was married, believe it or not, to California governor Gavin Newsom before he was governor. And at least publicly she has opposite politics of him. That was always kind of interesting. But you know, she started getting romantically involved with Donald Trump Jr. during the first Trump administration. And they were engaged. And in 2024, they were still engaged. She was speaking at the Republican National Convention when Trump was running again. And then very quietly, their engagement was called off. And she was, she was given what, what any good was going to be father-in-law would give the scoring lover of his son. She was given the ambassador to Greek ship. Oh, right. Yeah. I mean, that's what you do. Oh, listen, I'm sorry. My son ain't got no use for you, no more. But you know what does Greece? They got use for you. We need you here, kid. Get in the game. You're going to, you're going to go out to Santorini. You're going to find some fucking sexy, young Greek guy to sweat all over you. Yep. And you're going to forget about my son in five minutes more on that second. It sounds like she has. But yeah, here we, yeah, we're going to get to that. But you know, it, what it didn't do is it did not, what's the word I'm looking for? D if it's a morning recording. It was a little slower. But didn't lighten the blow. I mean, no, no, no. It did not unstrengthen her resolve to represent the long dick of the law. And by long dick of the law, I mean, represent the Trump family around the world in ways that, you know, are kind of interesting. So from this report, the US ambassador to Greece, Kimberly Guilfoyle, and this is Roman Shremeta on Twitter, given you the run down here. The US ambassador to Greece, Kimberly Guilfoyle, close Trump ally and former fiance Donald Trump Jr. admitted that the United States helped bring down governments that stood in its way. I, this is the first time hearing about this, Joey. I didn't know we did. I didn't know that either. I was completely unaware. We would never do this. This is very anti-American over clean cut. Again, I appreciate her saying these things out loud because, you know, it's just revealing the things in the shadows we already knew were true. Anyway, during a private dinner in Athens, which apparently wasn't that private, while discussing the collapse of Romania's government, Guilfoyle said, quote, we can do this to any country we want. We can do it here too. Better watch your fucking frappe there, Stavros. Yeah. The Greek energy minister pushback saying the United States cannot simply replace a government elected by the people like, fuck, we can't. Guilfoyle insisted that they have already done this in Romania on March 31st. And by the way, I believe the Wall Street Journal got a video of this actual meeting later, like you can see it happening. On March 31st, Guilfoyle met privately in Bucharest with senior Romanian social democratic officials. Meet new groupy setting mist from Maybelline New York. 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Yeah, so whatever useful idea they can find to get their means across because again, it's coming back to the economic agenda. Maybe they're freaking out, so because by the way, this is March 31st, so it's after the Rom War breaks out. They're freaking out so much about gas prices and the damage they're going to be doing while they were still telling the people the war is going to be over in four weeks back then. I remind you. March 31st was like, I think that was the day before Trump gave his speech, where he's like, "I want to give you an update. Don't worry about it." And we're like, "Wow, okay, this is definitely not that we didn't already think that." It's like two weeks to fly in the curve type. 100%. So they were already planning ahead because they're focused on energy alternatives and ways that they can help cushion the blow of their poor foreign policy decisions. But it's, it's the way that this bitch is running around saying that that I'm under no illusion that American officials forever have talked like this to foreign countries saying, "Listen here, buddy, you think you're in the five families, you're not even, you're not even a fucking soldier at the bottom of a shitty regime in Tampa." Right? Like, I have no doubt that they have talked like this forever. But the lack of discretion she's using to do it and the symbolism of her also being the former Fox News lady who was fucking the president's son and is now running around galvancing across Greece and apparently working on Eastern European energy deals. Again, What's this time number 12 today Joey Dief poor optics? Yeah, poor optics. Yeah, she's also like, you know No offense to you miss, but you're nobody. All right. You're a nobody You can't be going to the dinners and talking like this unless like you're the fucking like dot like you're a nobody in this grand scheme Yeah, and you're out there talking like this at the dinners You got fucking nerve to it. So you wouldn't be in my family. I'll tell you that. That's right. That's right She she'd be morey. She's like she's like no, she's like the dude. Well, I forgot the character's name Who's buying a bunch of shit and he buy gets his wife the code and good fellows and he's just that's right No, he's like what's your brother like that's the type of shit she would be doing. I told you to take it back Take it back take it back. Take it back Yeah, a lot of work done Joey Dief. Yeah, well, I mean like both docks is her friend for sure. Yeah, well, I don't know if it's her friend But it's definitely a little parasite. They definitely collaborate. They definitely collaborate for good or bad Yeah, you'd be the judge. Look at that bar next to that though We can do this to any country we want we can do it here too. Thanks for letting us know. I appreciate it But Joey Dief I did say that it appears to maybe young Kimberly has found her squeeze You see this from the WS shag. We're gonna read Very well written and entertaining Yeah, so the mystery man shadowing Kimberly Gillfoil as she pushes deals Across Europe Christos Mara Fatsos Works as an energy lobbyist while also closely advising the US ambassador to Greece What are the chances that Joey Dief an energy advisor in Greece? She's spending a lot of time with while she's over there and she's meeting with the Romanians about colluding against their current government. She mean with the leftists or leftists about colluding against their current government About what? Over what? Energy. All right, let's go down. So this is from Rebecca Bauhaus Dana Matty Oli Jo Parkinson and Drew Hinshaw Over at the WSJ Kimberly Gillfoil was a long way from Mara Lago the US ambassador to Greece Donald Trump Jr's former fiance was shuttling back and forth to Bulgaria's capital on a mission this Spring the Trump administration wanted allies on Europe's eastern edge to buy billions of dollars of American natural gas If they're gonna buy natural gas Joey Dief I want to buy an American buy ours There was just one thing the Bulgarian government she told people should deal with a Greek construction firm called Actor Group a newcomer to the gas business that had teamed up with the Greek state-backed energy company to bring in liquefied natural gas from the U.S. There's no doubt that this is kind of an official posit kind There's no doubt that this is kind of an official position of the U.S. government set a person familiar with the talks Sitting beside the 57-year-old ambassador and an audience with the Bulgarian president was a 39-year-old named Christos Marafazos He has attended so many of her meetings that some foreign officials mistook him for her chief of staff In fact, he has a top lobbyist for act or what are the chances of that Joey Dief? Yeah, she's pushing this company. Yeah, while the dude next door who she's probably fucking pure spec Yeah, I don't know. I haven't seen any tape yet. I'd make the bet, but I'd make the bet, right? And he just so happens to be lobby and for that energy company while they're trying to make these energy bills Yeah, it's just just classic business. Classic. So he's a top lobbyist for act or who's CEO had flown gulf oil to the country on a private jet. Why is it always the private jet? It's always somehow these people are getting something over the other people by flying them in a private jet It's like um, it's like international waters, you know, that's right. The complex. There's there's always the complication Joey Dief is never flown me in his private jet. I just won't put that on the record. No, I haven't he is not Yeah, I wouldn't accept it. Yeah, if I got it. Yeah, you wouldn't. I know. I know you're actually know me well. Yeah, I don't mind waiting in those lines. Yeah, you'll wait any You'll wait. All right. A one-time prosecutor who morphed into a mega icon Gulf oil is parlaying her ambassador ship to Greece into one of the Trump administration's most important diplomatic roles The former Fox News coach has crisp crossed the Balkans to help Europe wean itself from Russian energy via vertical grass gas cord Or meant to receive US LNG in Greece and pipe it towards Ukraine and pipe in it All right, but she had puzzled government officials across the region with her persistent promotion of a specific Greek company and her extensive efforts to involve Marafazzo's a neophyte in both diplomacy and energy listen You got to learn somehow you got everyone's got to start somewhere. So he's starting on energy deals in the middle of the war With Russian Ukraine his prior experience includes co-founding a Washington DC area produce Distributor that's on brand and working in businesses ranging from real estate consulting to creating the ultimate immersive experience of the acropolis in iMacs 3D so The iMacs acropolis guy who's fucking carrying your produce to the streets at DC to get his green card is now lobbying Right next to the ambassador degrees with a bunch of other countries, which I haven't asked this question yet But I don't know how normal this is for like the ambassador to Greece to be dealing with a bunch of other European nations in like a diplomatic role like that Maybe that's very normal. He's trying to put it on but like this who she put on right here the iMacs acropolis guy These days the Maryland raised Marafazzo's has frequently seen a gilfoil side acting as her unofficial gatekeeper And joining her for meetings at her ambassadorial residence and with government officials in countries around the region A highly unusual move for a private citizen several people who have met with mr. Marafazzo's and the ambassador Including government officials said he made no mention of his ties to act or yeah, we will talk about that Okay, you won't bring up act or we do that outside no phones all right At a conference earlier this month in Thessalonica, Greece where officials from nine countries gathered to discuss their products Progress on the vertical corridor a Wall Street Journal reporter waiting outside Watched Marafazzo's and gilfoil arrive in the back of a black BMW at the head of the U.S. Comfort Marafazzo's entered the city's met hotel through a separate entrance away from photographers But you got to enjoy the street you go through the back door so you can go upstairs and fuck right. Yep. Yeah Yeah, so it's i mean i'm just saying pure spec. It's kind of what it looks like but again They're not hiding these kinds of things and not even taking the precautions of checking to see if there's people video in on camera Outside the restaurant while they're doing this stuff. They're doing it in the open. They're doing it out in the open And there's a part of you that has to appreciate that And all the while you know you have You've had Trump like kicking out the news networks and then to the credit of all the other news networks as well Like including Fox News when that happened after he banned CNN and a few other places They all took out their reporters as well and said no, no, no, this is not gonna fly because again It's that's That's dictatorial regime types of even Biden even fucking Biden Made sure Peter Ducey from Fox News was getting questions every time he was in there even Trump won Back it back in in the first administration Where he'd rip into a cost all the time but like he'd go back and forth with Jim Acosta from CNN And now he's just like you know what get him out get him out you can't have that it's so bad It's so bad the Hillary Clinton is way down on this you see this Joey Dave no Hillary Clinton was appalled by this It's it's in that that link Down below the the paragraphs that she was appalled The Donald Trump would ever do this to the free press if we can go down for one second Kicking out the free press is what fragile authoritarians do not an American president I agree with you Hillary Clinton Here's the problem. Can we go back to have first tweet you had Joey Dave? This This is from when Clinton was in charge of the state department, you know working in the White House Clinton State Department was getting pressure from President Obama and his White House intercircle as well as heads of state Internationally to try and cut off Julian Assange's delivery of the cables And if that effort failed then to forge a strategy to minimize the administration's public embarrassment over the contents of the cables Obviously referring to WikiLeaks Hence Clinton's early morning November meeting of states top brass who flooded who floated various proposals to stop slow or spend the WikiLeaks contamination That is when a frustrated Clinton sources said at some point blurted out a controversial query Can't we just You could all be so uh more all the story everyone birds at the same feather they all do the same things they all you know Again, Trump's just being very blatant about it saying yeah, we're literally gonna kick him out of the White House press pool, but This is this is what they do What's joining Assange is is out of jail now, which is nice. You see he's having a kid too. Yep. He posted about that? Do we have that? Yeah. Congratulations to Julian Assange and his girl. This new life is thanks to everyone who fought for my freedom. That's from Julian on Twitter. What a wild Odyssey that guy went through. Being holed up in the Ecuadorian Embassy for years, you know, basically walking down a few hallways and that's it. And then he gets arrested and they throw him in a hellhole for more years. Now is he still like is he free? Where is he right now? I have no idea. He's free, but I don't think I still think he can't come to the US. Not that he's from here, but I'm pretty sure he couldn't just come here because there's like some pending charges, which again is wild. He's an Australia. Yeah, he's an Australia. It's wild that any member of the press would have like pending charges in America for doing their job for reporting on things. Being a member of the press also includes leaking materials that you're given. Now, if those sources like technically broke a law or whatever, that's a different story. That's on the sources. That's not on the journalist to do that. The journalists is doing their job. And by the way, sometimes those sources I think are doing very much the right thing. Look at it. We're snowing and stuff like that. We've talked about that a million times, but like you can talk about someone breaking the law, then you can look at all the laws that were being broken and not adhered to and ask yourself which was worse. And I would argue what was being broken by the administration trampling upon people's constitutional rights was way worse. But you know, the guy join a sunch, still technically I guess couldn't come here. Enjoy the pull this up. It is an interesting thought because it actually is almost this simple just from like a how could America have somewhat won with Trump? So meaning half the country didn't vote for him, half the country voted for him, right? How could America have been in a position that even if half the country didn't vote for him and didn't like him and couldn't wait for him to leave? They could at least look up and say not everything is the worst thing ever. So this is from be at being libertarian. In an alternate timeline, Trump takes a licing, a liking to Thomas Massey lobbies for him to replace Mike Johnson as speaker of the house. The Epstein criminals are in jail. BB is fending for himself. Doge is codified. The Department of Education doesn't exist. Farmers are happy and the GOP wins in 2026. Interesting list, certainly some things on there that people could across the spectrum get behind. Maybe a couple of things other people wouldn't as much, but like pretty good stuff. And these would be rooting out corruption. It would be holding to account justice, powerful people who have done the worst types of things with Epstein and people around him. It would be taking care of by the way the farmers that like Donald Trump relied on to help win the fucking election for him. You know, who have been completely forgotten about in Washington DC forever and are the backbone, not just literally of our economy, they're the backbone of the food getting on our fucking table. You know, and we wouldn't be entangled in foreign wars that were promises that he had made. That was the big thing. He's like, you get Kamala, you get Iran. And you get Trump, you get Iran. Yeah. So sounds like we were losing either what you saw right through this deep. Yeah, because I'm like the Epstein criminals are in jail. Then what the hell is he doing in the picture? What's he doing in the picture? Now, there's been a lot going on in AI that we got to talk about. And we'll be doing that over the next few episodes. I imagine. So when I say that, maybe that means like three of the next six, it may not be directly in order. I gotta watch myself with that. But Edward Snowden, who we were talking about, I don't think this was on camera, but you and I were talking a month or two ago about how little we get to hear from him publicly now, you know, as opposed to like in 2019, 2021, you were hearing from him a lot. And you haven't heard from him as much. But he's been coming out seemingly of late and spitting some bars. So under that anthropic section, you see that first link. Yeah. So this is Edward Snowden calling for the arrest and imprisonment of Sam Altman. You may recall, so this is at Health Ranger writing this, so he's referring to himself, you may recall I called for the arrest of Dario Amade from Anthropic last week on Alex Jones' show. They both are admitting to conducting criminal cyber attacks, even bragging about it. Why are they walking three free? So let's run this from Edward Snowden. And see what he said here pretty blatantly about Sam Altman. No tightness, no stickiness, no residue, just plump, dewy hydrated skin that still feels like your skin. Try new grippy setting mist from Mabelie, New York. Maybe it's Mabelie. Who owns the liability there? And of course, naturally, they would say the government owns the liability because you're never going to successfully sue the governor for this, and they should eat it. But maybe that doesn't work anymore because maybe they are an agent of government. I don't know where we're ever going to see standard to sue on this, but we should. And people in this room I think are frankly going to be called on in the course of their careers, in the course of their studies, in the course of whatever you do, to contend with these kind of issues. Where are we going to draw a line? Because an algorithm cannot make mistakes in the way that we understand it as, you know, you make it. Because the errors in its outputs are not the computers. It's the slave to its instructions. The responsibility lies with this developer, its program, its creator, its architect, which is to say, responsibility lies with a person. And we cannot find that. We cannot abrade that away, right? A gunmaker is not liable. It's true for the misuse of the gun. But if during the testing of their latest piece of artillery, they're mistakenly obliterate, you know, a nearby village. It's not the cabinet that you go to jail. And you know, just because you put out a press release, describing how surprised you were that your new model, you know, hacked the neighbor or to, you know, how impressed you are by the destructive power of your mobile phone. And that doesn't release you from the liability of launch. It doesn't like itself. You should. And so there's a lot we can get into. But the idea that I want people to content with is is how we deal with this. And right now, these closed models are saying AI safety, AI safety, safety, as they call it, where the idea is these things are so dangerous. Oh gosh, they're so dangerous, but they're so dazzling. They're so important. They're so valuable. We can't get rid of them. But you know, oh, it's going to kill some people, but it's all right. You know, that just happens. Oh, it's going to hack some companies. Oops, you know, whatever. We'll invest in them. The idea here is who operates this? And this should apply to our devices more broadly around the world. Right now you buy a cell phone from Apple. And before you're allowed to use it, you have to click OK to continue. And they go, well, you're assuming liability for that. You clicked OK to continue. 700 pages of stuff. So you're an Android phone, Samsung, so you're an Android phone. You click OK to continue. And now that's all you, but that can't be possibly how it works because you can't inspect the system. You can't understand how it's used in particular in the context of LLM's, where you're submitted queries to a model that they are running, where they are for your safety. And everyone else is safety. Intercepting the prompt and recomposing the prompt saying, we're doing applying safety rules and transformations to it. That's on you. But it's not. I can't even see what you did. I asked you a question. You gave me something back. We're doing it. If it's an agentic AI where I'm putting this thing in a harness, right? The harness being just a little program that basically uses these large models to feed it instructions that it can then provide to tools that are existing on your local system. So now your computer that is connected to the internet is being frankly remotely controlled by a model that's far away that you don't understand how it works. But you know, you hope it works pretty well. And frankly, they do work reasonably well. But every now and then in my hat, you know, some random company or whatever out there. Cost of doing business. I think we need to put Sam Alton in jail. There it is. And I think it'll be an instructive experience. There it is. All right. That's good right there. You got to pause to that. It's it is there's an argument there because on the one hand, you have a new industry that has been regulated and now like there's these performative like, please regulate us and whatever. But you know, that's back room dealing and everything. On the other hand, you look at every industry that's come into being over time to like change stuff. Look at one that now to us is really simple, like the car industry. Right? That came in, replaced horses, holy shit. Then, you know, people were getting crashes and dying and stuff. And they're like, you got to do fucking seat belts. It's inconvenient. Yeah. But like, that's what you got to do because we, you know, we got to percentage of people dying. It's way higher than it used to be and that's a problem. Why should it be different with what's being described as the most powerful technological tool humanities ever built? Why is there not oversight on that stuff? I'm not saying like, yo, go get the big bad government to come in and decide how to innovate and stuff. We know that doesn't work, but there's nothing wrong with having regulations that are laid out to make sure that the fucking rabbit doesn't get out of a hat. It like just just that simple because you're, you are dealing with something that does pose a danger of the people where it's known says there about like the guns and the testing is an amazing point. He's like, if a gun kills someone, the gun doesn't go to jail. But if you were running tests on that gun and you realized during the testing that like, oh, it's fucking spraying 47 bullets instead of two, which is what we're saying it's going to be doing. And then someone goes out and sprays 47 bullets instead of two, yeah, you the creator of that who didn't let that fucking test come public or just kept going and producing the weapon after that. Yeah, now you're liable. Now you go to prison and we've said it before, but Sam Altman running around and you know casually joking about, yeah, you know, A.I. is going to probably going to kill us all, but we're going to do some really cool stuff. Like he said that on Mogadot's incoming documentary, like I believe that's like a direct quote. Like this is the guy in charge of all this shit. This is the guy you want to trust. That's how lazy he is thinking about this. That's a sociopath. That's someone who has no ability to think about the consequences of his action. Put him in jail. Put him under the jail. Put him under. Now, Maryanoff all did a nice little, I guess like, review of what specifically like we're referring to here. And I'm going to have more thoughts on this in a second, but I just want to give people a lay of the land. This is pretty good. So A.I. Safety problem is far bigger than anyone admitted. Open A.I. and Anthropic are investigating tens of thousands of incidents. Remember that in a second. Sources told Axios the cases include models bypassing guardrails, escaping sandboxes, hijacking websites and trying to slip past their own monitors, in testing and out in the real world with many still not public and the count likely to climb, like meaning these events are not yet public. A.I. has paused training its most capable models and Sam Altman called the hugging face breach the worst yet were hundreds of agents coordinated on mess on a message board and hacked an outside company to score better on a cyber test. Anthropics newest system card shows Opus 5.5 tried to escape its sandbox in 1.5% of runs. So more than one in a hundred runs, they're doing millions of these, bro. And test built so the task couldn't be finished any other way, and across hundreds of thousands of runs, small percentages add up fast. Transluse Research Conrad Stowe said, "What we have seen in terms of what these agents are up to is just the tip of the iceberg. The companies building these systems are now the ones begging for rules and Congress went home until November without passing one. Because also they want to make sure we don't vote on fucking Epstein in that time. So Epstein is finding a new way to focus all in this case and by Epstein doing it, I mean the people covering up for him like our fucking government doing it. This hugging face thing, so I just recorded with Connor Leigh, he's been on a couple of other podcasts including my buddy Danny Jones recently. We had a great combo. I think it was like three hours and ten minutes, something like that. That's going to be coming out this episode Saturday. That's going to be coming out this week. And you're going to see that. He breaks down a lot of different things at one point. We go through the whole hugging face incident. And then all the other things that they're doing that are like related to that. And he did an amazing job explaining that so you'll hear that there. But I've been looking at this AI problem in as much of a balanced way as I can because I have to admit to you, I'm very afraid of the capabilities specifically when you have sociopaths running the companies in a race to be able to get this. Yeah. I am also afraid of what other countries could look like with this. If we legislated it correctly on slowing it down to make sure we're doing this right. But other places who just want to win and don't aren't thinking about the cost would ramp it up and then win. And everyone gets fucked as a result. And of course, I'm thinking of trying it with that Connor had some interesting arguments against that that I think people should listen to that are that are valid. He thinks that they're not suicidal over there. He might be right about that. He might be right. It's still a worry in the back of my head though. So that's like the one hand. The other hand is it's technology. It's a new innovation. It's a tool. There are things that this can be used for that are good that can help humanity in a way. But like, yeah, I don't think we should fucking have 47 million data centers taken out the entire natural resource or natural beautiful areas of America just to try to have the five tenants take over the place that are all the technocrats that include Palantir and they're just going to fucking spy on you and use this against you. Like I think that's a very reasonable take. Yeah, I don't think we should have AIs that we're like trying to race to get sentient. So a few fucking billionaires can try to be immortal and go to another planet somewhere while we all die. Yeah. Like, I think that's a reasonable take, you know, but I can also be excited at what the good could be of the innovation provided. We do it correctly provided. We put the right people in charge. And yes, free markets are also going to put people in charge of companies. It's not like the government gets to decide who's in charge at a company that's that's not a good outcome either. But we do have a bad trend of people who seem to have some very poor character traits sitting at the helm of these companies. And like Ronan Farrow did that huge piece, which we really should break down. He should get his flowers on that. That was months ago. That was like, maybe that was a year ago. I don't even remember, but he did his huge piece on Sam Altman and the behind the scenes and the power struggle going on there and exposed that for what it was. And like, this guy won't go away. They've tried to kick him out of that company. They've tried to fucking change course. And like he finds his way not only back, but back and even in more power. And he's not the only one you should be worried about. God knows how often we talk about volunteering places like that, which are integrating AI and what they do. Like, it's a it's a poor trend. So this past week, I also put out an episode with Lee Cronin, who has been on my show before, who is a chemist out of the UK brilliant guy. Definitely has a lot of hard opinions and he's very, that's why I like about Lee. He wears it on his sleeve, take it or leave it. It is what it is. He's got a great quote where he's like, I have, I have strong opinions loosely held or something like that where basically the way he explains is like, if someone gives me better evidence, I don't give a fuck how strong I was on opinion, I'll move off it and that's what it is. And so one of his strong opinions right now is that we are way over blowing the power of AI. And a lot of his argument, I'll let you guys listen to that episode so that he can formulate it perfectly and I don't take him out of context or anything like that. But a lot of his argument has to do with the fact that he believes AI is reliant on our inputs to exist and only learns based on the things that humans have put out into the open so it won't be able to think for itself just on learning off of that, if that makes sense. And it's interesting. As I said to Connor when I recorded it with him and Connor agreed, I hope Lee's right. And I hope Connor who's way more concerned about stuff is wrong. And Connor and I are both on the same page about that. We hope he's right. But like a guy like Connor Lee has worked directly inside these places for a long time. He was there for a part of the forefront of the foundation of this stuff. And you know, to his credit is just like, Hey, I'm not trying to be a doomer. But I am saying there are real risks we have here. There are real threats. I think we face and I don't think the timeline is crazy long. And I'd like to fucking ring the bell on that to make sure we get out in front of this or do my best to be able to say I did everything I could to get out in front of it. And so my point is, I think you do have to listen to both sides of the argument here. And there's probably a world that exists where the answer somewhere in the middle and that answer would include not having sociopaths in charge of these companies and not shutting down AI because we just shouldn't touch it. Like we've never shut down any technology before. That's what Lou Dites have done. And they always lose in history. What that doesn't mean is that the people on the full steam of headwagon can't lose in the future because they finally get their hands on something too powerful. That is the dichotomy here. Now on top of all this, Joey Death, the Pope has weighed in. The friggin' Pope. Did you see this? There's a video right there, "Pope Warning on AI." Let's see what he had to say. And Peter Teal, the antichrist himself, responded to it. Maybe we'll get to that. But this is Pope Leo delivering remarks on AI. I believe this was in France. It's like a couple of weeks ago, talking about the relationship of AI to humanity itself. Let's hear what you have to say. Among the challenges facing the world's of science and education today, I would draw a particular attention to those arising from the vast field of technology. Our efforts in this domain must ensure that new technologies remain at the service of the human person rather than becoming another instrument of domination and injustice. Over the centuries, many tasks, once performed by human beings, have been entrusted to machines whose capabilities and applications have continued to expand. More recently, certain artificial systems have even been given the name of our human faculty of thought, intelligence. At the same time, however, our ideas and relationships risk being impoverished by a process of dehumanization. The paradox has become increasingly evident. While intelligence is attributed to computational systems, we struggle to recognize the inalienable dignity of human persons whose lives are judged according to the criterion of efficiency, and when deemed no longer productive, we reject it and discard it. That's very well said on the end there, especially, because the theme I'm taking from the Pope is that a very powerful few are so focused on winning. They're so focused on like this race and saying, "No, we got to get here first. No, we're going to get here first. No, fuck it. We're going to get here first." That along the way, and this is news to absolutely no one, they've completely discarded the humanity of everyone in their way, which happens to be the other eight billion of us that live on this planet. He sees that happening and now has guys like Peter Teele calling him a tool for China. Again, it goes back to that same, I can't believe I'm saying this, and Peter Teele's defense, it goes back to the same concern I do have in the back of my mind. But I think calling the Pope a tool for China, for calling out the whole world, he didn't say like, "Yo, US, you guys are not, hey, gee, what's up, fam?" You go ahead. He's saying the whole world needs to look at this. There's nothing wrong with that, and Peter Teele's like, "Well, he's just helping China." Let's run what Peter Teele said. "I do have to say this. I'm always fair here, even when people I don't like." This clip went really viral because it's Peter Teele beginning, the beginning of the clip. Talks about it. He literally says, "If you're evil, you're at least competent, and if you're evil, you're not bad." And so people are like, "Oh my God, Peter Teele is calling evil people good." Which again, his choice of words in the way he tries to like artistically look at stuff is not exactly a help to him for sure, but to be clear, the context before the clip starts was he was talking about stupidity versus evil. I don't even agree with him on the point, but what he was saying is that stupidity sometimes can get you into a way worse place because they're not even competent. To me, when you then say evil is at least competent, you're kind of like buttressing up the fact that, "Well, you know, it's evil." The fucking bond villains were competent when they still tried to blow up the fucking world. So I disagree with him on the point, but people were, they were going a little farther than what it was when we attack people we don't like and people objectively doing awful things like Peter Teele does every day when he wakes up. We got to make sure we hit them with the things that are actually good verified evidence and not something that can be argued back against with context. So let's run what he said, basically in response to the pope, and this is the same guy who was giving antichrist lectures right outside the Vatican and Rome. So, you know, if you're evil, you're at least competent, and if you're evil, you're not bad. And therefore, maybe you're actually kind of good because you're at least getting something done. So I think it's better to be good than evil when we're very clear. And then there's also, of course, the risk that it ends up being slowed down in the West and not in China. The pope recently issued this AI encyclical, or I would characterize it as an anti-AI encyclical. And again, this is, you know, maybe it was too harsh, but the rhetorical point I have on it is that the Communist Party of China is not going to listen to the pope. There's a chance people in the US will. And so, in effect, the pope's encyclical was working for the Communist Party. And I'm not saying he was an agent to the Communists, but he was at least acting as a useful idiot for the CCP. Okay. That's good. If we win, though, Peter Teal, who's left? You got your bunker in New Zealand, you're fucking, you know, mansion in Argentina, outside the chair of Communistal range, but like, who's left? Like, okay, we beat the Communists at what cost? The other eight billion, you know, I just don't, I don't think they, I, I don't think they think about that stuff. I don't think they care. This guy can't even be bothered to say, give a straight answer about whether or not, you know, human should exist in the future when he's asked about that, which, which is another point. I would even, you know, we hate doing gotchas, shit, and here and stuff. Like when we talk with people, they're long form conversations so we can flesh this out. But why every fucking time I see one of these like billionaire titans talking to someone that every time it's someone I don't recognize, I don't know how they're getting these sit-downs, other than I guess it being like paid media or something. Why do they, oh, the interviewers always just sit there and completely let them say this stuff and just nod their head and move to the next question. Like what a little challenge, like a little Leslie Stahl on those fucking pardon brokers. What a little challenge hurt you. Like these are the people, these are the babies playing with matchsticks. And where the fucking clothes below it that are going to burn. Food for thought. I don't like telling people how to do their job, but like a little bit. Like maybe don't just sit there and nod your head. He says a line like, again, he was clad, I gave him the context of what he was saying before, but then he still closes that line with like, you know, so maybe evil is not bad. To be clear, I think goods better and evil. You maybe come in there and say, could you see how people might take that the wrong way and you trying to say that like evil is not the worst thing ever? You know, like, okay, it's not good, but you're at least like excusing its existence. It's not hard. That's all you got to do. Anyway, that's all I got, Joey Deef. Yeah. Way to play through the pain today. Ah, Pete. That's all right. You fucking kill that. I knew you would. Don't follow Joey Deef on Instagram and X, he's at Toke Malone on X, he's at Joey Deef on Instagram. We got to pump those numbers up, but appreciate all you guys. Please subscribe and that said, give it a thought. Get back to me. Peace. Peace. What's up, guys? Thanks so much for watching the video. If you have not subscribed, please hit that subscribe button before you leave, as well as leaving a like on the video to the YouTube channel. You can join my Patreon via the link in the description. 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