The Vanishing of Vivienne Cameron - Episode 1

From journalists to Liviela Voice, the creator of the Hidden Investigative Series, the Bakersfield 3, comes the new case file-present series, Ada. In 2011, the body of a woman was discovered in a California vineyard. For more than a decade, she was known only as Jane Doe. Then, detectives finally discovered her name. But identifying her was only the beginning. Listen to Ada, wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, it's Casey here. As you probably know by now, case file will be back with all new episodes in March 2026 for what will be our tenth year. We will also be releasing some bonus content and other things to mark the occasion, so keep an eye out for that. But earlier this year, you might have noticed that we released the first episodes of some of the case file-present shows we've produced in the case file feed. The decision to do so came after I learnt something surprising while talking with people at our live events. Many case file listeners had no idea that we produce other shows outside of case file, and some had never even heard of case file-present. It dawned on me that if someone is a big enough supporter of our show to come to a live event but hasn't heard of our production company, then clearly we need to do a better job of highlighting the other stories we've put so much care and work into. For those who don't know, case file-present is our broader production platform. While case file is our flagship show, we've also created a number of other podcasts under the case file-present banner. Our level of involvement differs from project to project, but we've played a direct role in all of them. Today, we're sharing another one of those shows, The Vanishing of Vivian Cameron. Back in 2018, we covered this case on case file as case 80, Beth Barnard. But this ten-part series goes far deeper. It's a long-form investigation written and hosted by Vicky Petradis, who co-authored the Philip Island murder, the book that first brought this story to public attention. The Vanishing of Vivian Cameron revisits the events of that night in 1986, when 23-year-old Beth Barnard was found brutally murdered, and 35-year-old Vivian Cameron, who was the prime suspect in Beth's murder, disappeared without a trace. Across ten episodes, Vicky examines the women at the centre of the case, the evidence, the forensics, the witness accounts, and the many conflicting stories that have shaped public opinion for nearly 40 years. It's a complex haunting mystery that continues to raise more questions than it answers. We're releasing the first episode here on the case file feed. You can find the full ten-part series by searching for the Vanishing of Vivian Cameron, wherever you get your podcasts. Now, here's episode one. Now, I always felt that it could be resolved that she would have to be somewhere, that she couldn't have just disappeared like that, and the fact that she said that she had jumped from the bridge. That wasn't convincing for me, so I just thought, well, she has to be somewhere. She can't just have disappeared. In April of 2018, my podcast, Case File True Crime, featured Case 80, the mysterious murder of Beth Barnard. This is one of those cases that poses more questions than it does answers, and it elicited a dramatic response from our listeners. In the mid-1980s, Philip Ireland was home to approximately 4,000 residents. The close-knit community was rocked to the core when on the morning of September 23, 1986, the mutilated body of 23-year-old farmhand Beth Barnard was found stabbed to death in her family home. The last person to see Beth alive was her married boss, Fergus Cameron, with whom Beth was having an affair. Fergus's wife, Vivian Cameron, became the number one suspect in Beth's murder. However, today that Beth's body was discovered, Vivian's car was found abandoned next to the Philip Ireland bridge, and she was never seen again. To explore what's come to be known as the Philip Ireland murder in more detail, we asked the true crime author, Vicky Petradis, who co-wrote a book about the case in 1993, to create a series dedicated to exploring the murder investigation in more detail. In this podcast, Vicky speaks to friends and family members of those involved, and pieces together the final moments leading up to the crime, with the help of police records and witness statements. If anyone could revisit the case to try and make sense of what happened, Vicky was the one. Colonial inquests have concluded that Vivian killed Beth before taking her own life, but Vivian's body has never been found, and many questions and harrowing elements surrounding the case remain. My name is Vivian Petradis, and I have been writing true crime books for over 25 years. The first book I wrote was The Philip Ireland Murder. When I sent a proposal off to publisher John Kerr, he liked it, but he said to me, "Since you're a teacher, not a writer, I'd like to peer you up with a journalist to co-author it with you." John introduced me to journalist Paul Daly, who at that time worked for the Sunday age. I'd never met a journalist before, or another writer for that matter, and it was a great match. Paul quickly became as interested in the case as I was, and it had the added benefit of me watching Paul shape the story. I learnt so much from the experience, and once the book was released, I too had become a real writer. I want to rewind for a moment to the origins of The Philip Ireland Murder book. I first got the idea to write the book when I heard the story of Fergus Vivian and Beth at a teacher conference of all places. It was for a program set up to help kids deal with divorce. The speaker told the audience that Vivian's family had funded the program because they felt that the tragedy that happened in her adulthood was directly connected to the trauma of her parents' divorce in her childhood. Vivian's father had left the family when she was eight years old, and when her own marriage broke down when her son had recently turned eight, she just snapped. According to the story at the conference, the murder of a young farmhand named Beth was the tragic result of a woman who hadn't dealt with her grief. It accumulated and she killed. So there I was sitting in the audience looking for a case to write about, and this one seemed perfect. Of course, I assumed that the family would welcome a book because it would also help get their message across. I was wrong. The minute I entered the local Philip Ireland newspaper office to search for articles on the case, the woman in charge came out and asked me what I wanted the articles for. And I told her that I was writing a book and she told me to wait and then disappeared into an office. And when she came back out, she said, "I've just rung the family and that I don't want you to write the book." And in her tone, I heard an expectation that I would do what I was told. But I guess there's something about being told not to do something that makes all of us want to do that thing even more. I'd already spoken to people who really wanted the book written, Friends of Vivian and Beths, but there seemed to be two camps on the island, Friends of the Camarines, who would never talk, and the Friends of the Women, who needed to talk. We respected and understood the position of those who didn't want to talk, but the people who did speak to us did so because they felt a book might bring answers. Someone must know something, and that's what we all thought in the beginning. When a case doesn't have a conclusion, it leaves people forever to wonder what really happened. The truth of this case, the filibala murder, is that we may never know anymore than we know now. But of course, the hope for this podcast is that someone out there knows something that could make a difference, and that they will come forward. So where do you begin a story that ends in the death of one woman and the disappearance of another? A story that has rippled through the years and still makes people wonder what really happened. in the small hours of Tuesday, the 23rd of September 1986. Perhaps before the dying though, we should start with the living. Before a murder happens, there is a convergence of people and circumstances that brings everyone together for that one fatal moment. So to begin, we need to rewind back from September 1986 to see who best Barnard and Vivian Cameron were before they were forever cast together in history as victim and killer. The Cameron family were an important family on Philip Island. It's hard for non-Islanders to understand, but in the small community, the landowners and the politicians are the leaders. The Cameron family had both among their ranks. Fergus Cameron was educated at Scotch College and then he spent a decade working in real estate. He married Vivian Janice Candy in December 1976 and the couple moved to the Philip Island family farm in Ventnor, where Fergus's brother Donald also lived with his wife Pamela. The third couple in this tragedy that would play out in September 1986 was Fergus and Donald's sister Marnie and her husband Ian Cairns. They were all involved in the community. Donald Cameron was the Philip Island counsellor and his wife Pam was a physiotherapist. Marnie was a nurse at the Wally hospital and Fergus Cameron was a farmer in a part-time ranger at the Penguin Parade. His wife Vivian was employed at the Philip Island community house. So who was Vivian Cameron? Sadly her sister Deirdre and brother Keith are gone and those left to speak about her are friends from the island. Women who were young mums with her, women who've always questioned how their friend could have driven to the home of another woman and killed her with all the ferocity of a horror movie. What was Vivian like? For one she was a passionate advocate for other women on the island. She was one of the founding members of the community house, a place where women could go and learn skills and connect with each other. Another founding member was Sue Chadwick. Vivian I felt that this should have been more about women and men could have a go too but there must be time for women to go. So was she a bit of a feminist? I think she had a strong mind and strong thoughts and when I did certain things that were not acceptable in the community she would laugh and say "I wish I could do that, I wish I could break out like that". So I think she wanted to burst out and be something really good and better and heard of in the community but she seemed to be suppressed as if she was living under a bit of a thumb. I used to talk about the farm and I'd say to her you always seem so calm and she'd say "well I'm not inside and it's not that easy being a farmer's wife". And I said oh I thought you'd have a lot of time there particularly with the family you know all the space around you and everything like that and she said yes it's good but it's sometimes it's hard fitting in. So I felt that she was sometimes under a lot of pressure. I don't know if that was the strength of the family or she felt she didn't live up to their expectations but I think she tried really hard to be what everybody wanted her to be. Over the years I've spoken to a lot of Vivian's friends and I loved hearing stories about her. Like the time one friend was stuck at home with a special niece child and Vivian just showed up on the doorstep with a casserole and a bottle of wine, no questions, no fanfare, just her being there for a friend. And I spent a lot of time going through notebooks from 1991 when I first began researching the case five years after the murder memories were fresher back then and I've made a scrolling note from a friend called Lisa who remembered Vivian saying around 1983 or 1984 that if she had gone to a premarriage class with Fergus she never would have married him. Another friend I spoke to way back then was Evelyn. She described spending time with Vivian when the kids were at Kinder and she loved her dry sense of humour. She said that Vivian was a hard worker and Evelyn remembered seeing her with baby hue in the pusher alongside his mother as she marked sheep. She was a roll up your sleeves kind of person. Evelyn said that Vivian had joined toast masters which was a group to help build your confidence in public speaking. Some of this was to make up for feeling on the outer among the clannish Cameron's. From what Evelyn told me Vivian felt lonely in the extended family she'd married into. And perhaps the feelings of isolation were exacerbated by an increasingly distant husband. But while it seemed to her friends that Vivian wasn't happy in her marriage, in 1986 in a small community the subject was not open for discussion. Vivian's own father had left the family in the late 1950s when she was eight and as well as being affected by the loss Vivian suffered the shame of being from a broken home at a time when divorce was rare. Talking about her own crumbling marriage was something that she only hinted at. The picture of her going to marriage counselling on her own is a sad one. She spoke of these things to friend Sue Chadwick. She did go along for marriage guidance but Fergus refused. So in our talks when we were in the car going to meetings she'd talk a little bit about her home life and how much she adored her children and would do anything for them. And I know speaking to the principal he said she was such a good mum popping into the school and seeing how the boys were going and if there was anything she could do. So I think she was a very good mum, a very fair mum and a hard worker on the farm too. So she more than contributed. Ironically it was a close friend of Beth who revealed another side to Vivian. In a small community like Phillip Island everyone knows almost everyone else. Beth's friend Wendy Orchard had a farming mac thief's road real just down the road from Beth's. While Wendy and Beth had bombed it over their love of horses it was horses that led Vivian to Wendy's door. Wendy offered writing lessons. Vivian Cameron was one of her pupils. Vivian actually came to me a couple of years before and had some writing lessons of all things. Yeah so she wanted to learn to ride. I can't remember how many times she came but quite regularly there for a couple of months she was very keen to learn how to ride. We had a bent in closure that we could teach people who didn't ride to riding in so she would come and have a lesson and ride around in there and it was just something that she wanted to do for herself. But yeah she just wanted to learn to ride. Vivian, it's just a really genuine woman who just appeared as though she wanted to better herself and fit in more with the community. She just seemed as though she was just wanting to learn different skills. A lot of people at the time told us how in her final months Vivian had lost weight and had her hair coloured. Some concluded that this was because she was getting ready to leave and take the boys to Melbourne. But through Chadwick saw it differently. I felt that she was perhaps doing those things to make herself more attractive to Fergus to be a bit more competition so to speak with Beth because that had been going on for some time and Vivian had known about it. But if that was true her efforts were in vain. He's how her husband Fergus described that time. These are Fergus's words but not Fergus's voice. I would have thought it was obvious to Vivian that I was having an affair with Beth who was working on the farm on a permanent basis. I could see that even more strain was building on our marriage and all sexual relations between Vivian and myself had been nonexistent for the past two to three months before Beth's death and prior to that was very rare. I might add that I was working 90 hours a week which was not helping. It had got to the point that if I had any sexual relations with Vivian it would have been an enormous feeling of guilt towards Beth. Although Vivian didn't say anything I could tell that she felt rejected and I tried to compensate by doing all the things a loving husband should do such as making her feel comfortable and making her wanted and needed in other ways and I used to confer with her in everything but our own personal relationship. So did Vivian see the writing on the wall or was she a woman desperate to save her marriage? According to Vivian's sister-in-law, Manny Cairns, she was both worried and desperate. In a later statement, Manny would write, "In about May this year, Vivian and I decided to go out for lunch on a weekday that we both head off and also decided to see more of each other. This resulted after we'd met for a cup of coffee shortly after the shearing and finished in April. As a result we did see more of each other and Vivian confided in me about different matters. In May 1986 Vivian Cameron confided to me that she was concerned about her husband and the long hours he was working both on the farm and at the Penguin Parade. On or about 4 June 1986 Vivian Cameron asked me to lunch at her home and she told me of her concern about the relationship between her husband and Beth Barnard. We spoke about this for some time and she told me that she'd been so anxious that one time in desperation she telephoned lifeline for help. I urged her to seek counselling but she said that she felt her husband would not agree to participate in this. While Vivian seemed to her sister-in-law to be uncharacteristically bitter toward Beth she told Marnie if it wasn't Beth it would probably have been someone else. A colleague from the community house Isabelle Attacote described her impressions of Vivian and the marriage. There were comments that she made that made me think your marriage is not happy is it. We we we used to meet and have conferences between us about what we had to do and what have we and one particular time she said come out to the farm come out to my house and I went out there and she it was getting near lunch time and I said oh well I better go you and let you have your lunch you said and she said oh don't worry don't worry he's out working and I thought yeah you're not really very happy I just felt that she wasn't terribly happy in the marriage. When focus Cameron was interviewed after the murder he described an increasing anger boiling up in his wife as he kept denying the closeness he had with the 23 year old Beth Barnard the woman they'd employed to help on the farm. A friend of Vivian's told me that his constant denials that anything was going on between him and Beth was slowly driving Vivian crazy. She used to be very aware of when she had to pick up the children and she wouldn't leave the children on their own. Vivian's friend Isabelle inadvertently touched on something that could trigger Vivian's absolute fury. It was the cause of the last big argument between Vivian and Fergus before the night of the murder. This is how Fergus described it in his place statement. Each morning I used to go down to the shearing shed at 7.30am to commence the day's activities and quite often I would have to be home by 9am to pick up one of the children and as Vivian works at the community house in chaos I would take my son Hugh to kindergarten on some occasions but most of the time I would have him with me. Approximately seven weeks ago on a Monday morning I was late picking him up at the house as I was helping Beth loading some hay. I caught up with Vivian in what's road and she was furious with me and she abused me for spending my time with Beth loading the hay and that she had had enough. I can't remember what else she said but it was along the lines of us getting help immediately to save our marriage but I said something like don't be stupid and then drove to the racetrack. Vivian was right behind me at this stage and stopped to the front gate at the racetrack. Vivian and I had a talk but I have no idea of the conversation but it was the last we had of a personal nature prior to the events of last Monday night. The marriage that seemed to collapse slowly in full view of friends and family didn't start off like that. Vivian and Fergus married in December 1976 and had doodled in 1978 and hue in 1981. In the early days Vivian's sister-in-law thought they were close when she and her husband Vivian's brother Keith visited. She described Vivian as an earth mother someone who was incredibly calm and unruffled adoting mother. Vivian's sister-in-law said. Fergus was one of those men that women would fall in love with. He was charismatic. They were in love. But over the years the loving relationship she saw between Vivian and Fergus changed. One Christmas there was clearly something wrong. Fergus left the group and went and had a nap and missed Christmas dinner. Vivian's friends started to get a similar impression too especially in the lead up to September 1986. Friend Sue Chadwick who spent a lot of time at the community house with Vivian described what she saw. I remember going up to a friend's place called Evelyn and meeting Vivian and Fergus there they were there for a cup of tea but they were both very very quiet and I thought I didn't feel a sense of exuberance or enthusiasm and I thought this is strange. I don't think that it was an easy conversation that was carried out between the three or four of us. One thing all Vivian's friends agree on is how much she loved her two little boys, Dougal and Hugh. Ironically when Beth Barnard started working on the Cameron farm she was charmed by the two little boys as well. In a tape she made for a friend overseas she says "I'm always nice to them. They're so cute. Hughes just falls asleep on your lap. We call them Hughgle and Dougal." Beth's family chose not to contribute to the book. Their sense of loss felt agonising. Over the years I've interviewed a lot of people who've lost loved ones in tragic circumstances and I understand their loss and how hard it must have been for them to come to terms with how she died. This kind of crime leaves an imprint that may fade but never disappears completely. When we were researching the book Paul Daly and I spoke to one of Beth's friends Denise. She described Beth as bubbly and full of life. Quite the opposite to Vivian's calm and quiet. Denise told us about a trip that Marie and Beth took to the Moldives and how they saw a palm reader on the beach who read their palms. He stopped when he got to Beth's and he said he couldn't read hers and hurried away. They'd all laughed it off at the time and never gave it another thought. Denise gave us the tape recording of Beth and Marie having dinner at Beth's house. Joining them for a while was Fergus Cameron. Beth and Marie would make tapes of themselves chatting and send them to Denise who by that stage had moved to London to work. The tape has been lost over the years but I still have the transcript that I made at the time. Beth was having problems with the guy she knew from the penguin parade. They were friends but the guy perhaps felt more for Beth than she did for him. He sent her flowers, she didn't keep them but rather gave them to friends and he came around uninvited and mowed her lawns. These are her words and here's how I remember her saying it. I've got this problem how he keeps mowing my lawns and I don't want him to because I feel as if I owe him something when he does it and he mowed them again on Monday and I get home and I yelled at him and he got really pissed off and so anyway he just took off and comes back Monday night and I thought oh beauty I've got rid of him now and he comes back Monday night and he got mad at me and fed income. I just feel like telling him where to go now and then he came to work at the cameras on Tuesday because we were landmarking all day and I was in a real shit and I kept trying to find other jobs to do and he just comes and takes over my jobs and tells me what to do and Fergus thought I was being really good trying to do all these other things and I was just trying to get away. I'm just so sick of him and wish they'd do something to stop him coming around. We gave him all these hints not to come around tonight so if he comes around I think I just I'll sock him out. Beth doesn't sound afraid of the man who mowed her lawns and left her flowers just really annoyed. Beth had moved to the island a couple of years earlier and worked at the Penguin Parade. Her friend and colleague from those days Graham Bergen described how the new girl on the block settled in. There were a few people that spend a bit more time with Beth than others and because Beth was such an outgoing person then she knew to the island and she was a bubbly young 20 year old. I don't want to say that a new toy to be played with. It wasn't like that it was just that someone knew to the island there's a new person here let's get to know them they're interesting and Beth was a good communicator because you know part of her role and function at the park was to talk to people and she she was good at it. A lot of the men here are attracted to. Got to remember way back then we used to have a nickname for philippo, and we used to have a bloke's island. Maybe not so much like that now, but there weren't any women down there, especially young single women, there weren't any, and if they came here, and on time said a ten they get frightened away, because a lot of the bloke's down here at that time, they were either builders' labourers or most of them were surfers, and then a lot of the other people living here maybe had grown up here all their life when they were involved in businesses or farming community. It was isolating for most people, and if you got married and had a family well, you were lucky. So for Beth to move in down here, she was moving into that sort of environment where she was a novelty for a lot of the men that were down here. I always wondered what Beth saw in Fergus. At 36 he was so much older than her, and he had a wife and two children, she was 23. I put that question to Graham, he didn't know the answer either, but he speculated. It might have been easier to hide if she was doing it that way. She might want people to know that she was having a relationship with anyone, so doing that with a married man might have been an easy way of hiding the fact she was having a relationship. It might have just been for pure convenience. Being with someone day in day out working with them, you start to feel comfortable with them, so the normal barrier is that you have up, because you start really interested in having a relationship. If you only seen the people for an hour or two here and there, well, you're not going to sort of go there if you're not really wanting to. But if there's someone that you're seeing day in day out for hours of time, stuff gets comfortable in the space, and that's when that barrier drops away. Beth's girlhood friend, Wendy Orchard, lived a couple of houses down from Beth in McFeeze Roadville. They bonded in their teens over their shared love of riding horses, and they'd stayed friends. As soon as Beth finished her agricultural degree in Melbourne, she moved to the island to live. She was a bright and bubbly personality, but she was also, yeah, she was a very good friend. She was very loyal. She would have a go at my things like, you know, we do all sorts of things together. We actually helped each other do our housework. It's been both hated it. We both hated it, so we would help each other do our housework. That was a really funny time, actually. Oh, yeah, we used to put music on. I'd turn it up loud, and we'd, you know, have the music going. We'd be singing and being silly and doing each other's housework. It was quite crazy, really. And of course, we rode horses together as well. So we'd often put the horses in the float and go down to the beach at Cape Willamay and ride along the Willamay beach. When he told a story about how the summer before she died, there was a crisis at the Penguin Parade. Baby penguins were starving when their parents weren't bringing them enough food. Beth rallied a bunch of friends to help out for hours each night with the baby penguins. One summer could have been 12 months before. The penguins were starving, and I would go out to the penguin parade every night, and it was Beth and I, and I don't know who the other girls were, but somebody would have gone and got pilchards from tastings or somewhere through the day. And we would wander around weighing baby penguins and tagging them and feeding them pilchards, because the adults weren't bringing anything home for them to eat and they were starving. And I think that was the summer before she died. There was certainly no partying or anything going on at that point in time, because we were all too tired by the time we spent two or three hours after the Penguin Parade, feeding baby penguins. Yeah, it was just something she got all her friends involved in. I can't remember if Fergus saw any of the actual other staff ever stayed behind and helped. Not surprisingly, while the affair with Beth Barnard was becoming more intense, the relationship between Fergus and his wife Vivian was calling. Fergus himself described the deterioration of his marriage. During the first few years of our marriage, we went through difficult times, asking ourselves, why did we get married? But we weren't great ones for talking about it though. This was because we both come from different backgrounds. At about the time of the birth of our two boys, our relationship was at its closest. But things deteriorated when Beth Barnard started working at the Penguin Parade. By April, Beth was also working on the Cameron Farm. Around mid May, the workers at the Penguin Parade had a party and Beth invited them back to her place. Fergus was the only one who went and that night, their relationship became sexual. Fergus saw her a couple of times before he went off for a family holiday in May, even though Fergus wrote in his statement that he was, quote, "Determined that the relationship between Beth and myself should not continue because of my wife and two children and this was going totally against my values I did hold." But that didn't happen. When he got back, the two took every opportunity to see each other. Fergus described walking along the beach after work or sitting in cars or going back to Beth's place. And this relationship didn't go unnoticed by Vivian and she started to accuse Fergus of giving special treatment to Beth around the farm. Nearly a year into their secret relationship, Beth and Fergus decided to end it when she left for her trip to the Moldives. But it didn't stick and the minute she got back, they started seeing each other again. It was around December 1985 that Vivian walked into the shearing shed and caught Fergus hugging Beth. Here's how Fergus described it. Vivian's reaction was immediate. She asked me to go back to the house with her. I did not go to the house, but stood in the garden with her and she asked me if I was having an affair with Beth. I said no, we are very good mates. I can't remember, but there was a one-sided conversation with Vivian very distraught and I was answering her questions with a yes or no denying any affair with Beth. During this conversation, she said that she had tried to talk to me about our relationship but had given up because I wouldn't talk. At this stage, I still wanted to keep our marriage intact, mainly for the boys' sake. After being caught in the shearing shed, Beth Barnard began applying for jobs off the island. Clearly this was getting to be too much for the young woman. Vivian was rattled too. When Fergus arrived home at five in the morning after a Christmas party at Beth's, she was furious. Here are Fergus's words. I arrived home shortly after five o'clock, hopped into bed and thought Vivian was asleep. She wasn't and she immediately started attacking me. She punched me in the face to begin with and I rolled over onto my stomach and she punched me on my back and she was crying, extremely distraught, wanted to know why I was so late. I said that it was a good party and after about five minutes she quietened down and I held her as tight as I could and she cried some more and I went to sleep. By early February 1986, Beth had quit her island jobs at the Penguin Parade and on the Cameron Farm and got a job in Werribee, which would have put 170 kilometres distance and a two-hour drive between her and Fergus on Philip Island, effectively ending their relationship. She was all set to move when Fergus sat with her at Penguin Parade and told her he didn't want her to go and she spoke to the boss and was immediately reinstated. She was also re-employed on the Cameron Family Farm and worked there for another seven months until the Friday before she died. Friends like Wendy Orchard warned Beth against the relationship with Fergus. I can remember her telling me a little bit about it and I can remember saying to her, "Beth, you don't want to go down that road, you don't want to get involved there." But you know, she was a fairly private person, well to me, about that sort of stuff. She knew I knew the family and everybody in it. So I guess she was maybe a little bit embarrassed about what might have been going on. I just remember saying, "Beth, you don't want to go there, you don't want to do that." And so Vivian, Fergus and Beth moved inevitably toward the convergence that would leave two of them dead and one of them facing detectives exposing the relationship secrets he'd tried to keep hidden for so long. On the next episode of the vanishing of Vivian Cameron. It was a very awkward situation, because neither Vivian or Fergus would verbalise anything to me. They would look at one another, there was very long intense looks between the two of them, but they never said anything. So I kept questioning, you know, saying, 'Look, I need to know what's happened so that I can assess the injuries and then decide whether we need to call the doctor.' Keith said, 'Vivian seemed distressed as if she wanted some advice from me. However, I thought that whatever bothered her could be sorted out at the weekend. I still have trouble with my decision.' They were both clearly aware of what had happened, and it was like a pact, they were together on what had happened, but they weren't wanting to tell anybody else. Thanks for listening. If you'd like to hear the rest of the vanishing of Vivian Cameron, you can find it wherever you get your podcast.