The Union Screaming House

Hey weirdos, I'm Alina, I mash and this is morbid Yeah It's a big knee day. It is it's gloomy. Yeah, we did can we say what we did last night? When does this come out? I don't know. No probably no. No, I don't think we can we did something spooky last night It was really fun. You'll find out about it. It just isn't yeah, we'll talk about it. Oh, yeah It's not for our feed anyways, but it was a fun spooky thing that we did and we got to go to Salem Yeah, we got to go to Salem and October which was actually insane like to like it wasn't that busy No, cuz it was at night. It was on the week night But now I want to go back. I know but it also took so fucking long to get there The traffic was crazy. I want to go back for a little bit, but the Salem air oh It's beautiful, especially when we finished when we were walking back to the car Yeah, it was just so it smelled so crisp. I did and it felt good on the skin. It did I think it it de-aged me. Yeah, I think all of that. Yeah, for sure It's gorgeous, and then I woke up today cuz yesterday was like sunny. Yeah, yeah today. Yeah today Gorgeous overcast raining cold. I Think I could thrive in Seattle. Yeah, I think I could or is it Oregon's pretty pretty rainy too, right? I think so. I think they're like yeah next to each other. Yeah, that's geography of that I think I could thrive in a place like that or or forks. Oh, yeah, it'd be perfect every any time I watch the Twilight movies I'm like yeah, yeah, I could do that. I would love it. Yeah, I could definitely do that. I crave it I do too when I wake up and the sun is shining through my windows. I'm like oh It's like a vampire. Yeah second. I walk outside. I'm like. Yeah Especially the older I get. Yeah, I'm so happy. It's not summer anymore. Oh Literally fuck summer. Yeah, I hated this summer. I did know I actually cuz you know I'm usually like Alina like don't rush my summer like I like summer and then you got mad at me and we have a whole thing I was happy that you rushed my song. I said keep brushing it. Yeah, and then look at that summer held on a little long this year And I was like get the fuck out. No, I was nodding to it at all even though they're ready for it meteorologist hour It was 76 degrees and I said oh, I said no. Thank you 65 or below. Yeah, I'd like goosebumps. Yeah, yeah Let's go goosebumps on my skin and goosebumps in my bookshelf. Mm-hmm. That's what I want. I think isn't it you can watch it on TV too Yeah, you can but I just want to read it. I haven't watched it on TV so I just want to read that shit. You know what I don't know if I've ever read a goose bumps book You should see her face right now What I mean, that's your failure. Yeah Did you know this? What I don't think I ever read one I lived with my mom for a long time. So that bitch would trade me like Daniel Steel And like I think I read the other bolin. I think I've talked about this like many times I read the other bolin girl when I was like 11 I was like damn King Henry is got it all. I'm gonna give you I'd like to reason because you'll you'll eat them up in like an hour You'll just eat them up. Yeah. I mean, I can read like a regular book and like two and a half hours Yeah, especially the reader beware to you choose the scare ones Used to send me into orbit. I feel like I read one of those maybe those were my absolute favorite Yeah, because you are literally the main character in the story which That's my conic that's that's that's you up for a whole life of wanting to do that. Yeah, and it I loved it Yeah, he me up with one and I would do it over and over until I did all the endings. Oh There's various. Yeah, because you get to pick all the different things and there's so many different variations They're both making hand Aiden's over in the corner in the ladies in front of me. They're just making hand motions I'd be like you wear a bunch and then the fear street That's like the level up. You would love fear street. Yeah, we get there Not really. They're not the same. Yeah, they're not the same, but You would love it. Okay. Oh, I'll do it. We have a new journey period. We have a new journey Are we gonna go spumps book club? Yes, like just like a fun together. We should do like a fear street book club. Okay I'm admin to this. I'm in this you're gonna enter the world of our all-stein. I'm in such a spooky Like reading place right now, so I get that I'm reading hellbent right now by Lee Bardugo the second The ninth house with the rabbit on the cover. Yeah, that rabbit is so sad. I fucking love the series guys They're an alternate cover that I can have. No, so it's it's such a sad rabbit It's a fucking phenomenal series. I have the fur. I we've talked about this. I have the first one I've read it. Yeah, I really want to read the next In Richard Chismars movie and series becoming the boogie man. Mm-hmm That's a great series. These are all really good series for spooky season if you guys are looking for anything to Pick up. I also got that book bunny. It's like all over TikTok. Yeah, I've seen that a bunch Yeah, I just like I also like to the cover. I'd be interested. I'll read that and I'll let you know I gotta I gotta get a little bit back into my reading jams. Yeah I've been doing it every night with one of my kids, so I love that I would sit quietly together in her bed and just read together see I'm I'm kind of like trash and right now It's like a big season of reality TV for me kind of like trash It's bravo is going nuts. They're going hard in the paint right now. Yeah, that's that's tough for you It's New York. It's a new season of below deck. It's Salt Lake City. Oh see Sucks asked this. You're actually stopped watching it But it's like every night something is on and then the Traitars You've got a lot going on. There's Traitars regular people and now there's Traitars celebrity coming back So it's to see your book in busy with TV. I'm so booked in busy. Yeah, but I should probably read And I'm to specially given the brain rot that I am Consuming regular. Yeah, they can't stop singing hypocrisy and bullshit bullshit I don't know what that is from Salt Lake City Okay, I was like why I've had no one to talk to about it either. I know. I'm sorry that I can't be I just wish you would I'll read a little more and you brain rot a little more. I gotta pick one of the other I can't I don't have time for my capricorn my Gemini heart could never. I can't pick one lane I got either read and write or watch TV It's not room for help to write. Yeah, and to write you have to read exactly Camp TV won't really help you with that I'm such a TV whore. It's bad. No except I do I still want to watch Carrie I'm just I'm just struggling a little bit. I want to watch it so bad, but I can't I'm struggling not because I it's not good. It's because I Think the lead girl just breaks my heart. She's yeah summer. I think her name in summer. How she's phenomenal Do you know she's 22 years old? I did not know that 22 years old I watched the first episode of Carrie and that's the it is incredible. Yeah, I just have such a hard time with bullying That's the thing it like really I want to reach in and just hug her Yeah, I want to get her out of there before they drop the blood on her and she looks like somebody I love Yeah like so much that I I can't handle. Yeah, so it kills me a little bit But I do want to watch the whole thing when I heard that Mike Flanagan wants to make it three seasons Yeah, and based out I don't want to spoil anything for anybody But based off of something that happens at the end of episode one I think I know yeah I'm like going with that. Yeah, and I'm like I want to enjoy that when I'm just I'm like I'm down for whatever Mike Flanagan wants to do I mean, the thing is we all know Carrie ends with a good for her moment Absolutely, maybe maybe I could have that see me three. Yeah, that's what I think Drew won't watch it with me though Because we watched the first one together and he was like no, I can't like it's too much and he gets way too upset It's hard. Yeah, it's hard to watch. Yeah, um the book is wild Um, you know, I've never read a Stephen King book. I have to read a Stephen King book. I know you need to read a Stephen King book What Stephen King book do I read first? I had John start with Salem's lot. Salem's lot And he loved it. I might have you start with something else. Yeah, but I have to think about it. People listening to this podcast right now Are like are you qualified to host this? They're like nine years in I feel like you're outing a lot of your secrets to me or are you even spooky? Are you even spooky? I will get you there. Yeah, yeah, I see and I was gonna say you know that was my first thought I've seen the movie confirmed then I was gonna bring that up miseries a great book. Okay The book is intense is a movie's intense. The book is really a good. I love catty, but it's a great movie. Okay, great book I mean, okay, um, misery that's so funny. Aiden held up a sign that said misery and in my head I was thinking misery and I was like, but I'm gonna think through it. Okay, that confirmed it. So I guess I'm going to Barnes and Noble today. That's books. Yeah That's more that's that's confessions. That's whether and that's reality TV. That's TV. All right. I mean, I think we're good So, uh, hit your stopwatch. Cornelius Cornelius. Go ahead. That's stopwatch. Here we go because we're going to talk about the union screaming house Today everything. I've never heard of that. If that doesn't hook you the union screaming house. Yeah Just like a bunch of union workers yell on their heads off. That's exactly it. We can end the the thing now Because you just told the story. Thank you guys for listening. This was great. Uh, today we hope you Uh, no, that's not what it is, but And she said shut up. So let's begin at the beginning Charlie, um, when Stephen LaChance divorced his wife in 1999. We'll start there - Oh my god. - Obviously divorces stuff. - Tell me about it. - I'm not a child anymore. - I'm not getting divorced. - No, I'm not getting divorced. - I was like, good. - Good. - The reddit threads. - Holy sh**. - The reddit threads just palm on. - Even though you just confirmed it, I'm sure it's still. - Oh, it's already still there. - No, I'm a child. - Holy sh**. - That's why I was like, I'm a child of divorce. - You didn't even see it at first. I literally was like, don't go there. - Whoa. It was scary. You gotta be careful. - I know. - Up in these streets. - Any comment you make, Ken, and we'll be used to this. - It absolutely will. - I love my husband. - I was not a child of divorce. - No, you were in my divorce. - My husband's beautiful marriage. - They really did. - They do. - I do. - Why do I always think that they are very much still alive in a love love? (laughing) - No, they have always been in love. So I'm very lucky with that. - But Steve Lachance was not. - I don't know that my parents ever loved each other. (laughing) - Another confession. (laughing) - We should just name this episode "Ash Confessions." (laughing) - I don't know what I'm on to, babe. - And I stayed up too late last night. - You just letting it all hang out. - My dad is gonna text me and be like, "I did love your mom like one." - That's like one. (laughing) - Like for a minute. So obviously, Steve Lachance's life was kind of upended in ways that he never expected when he got divorced. - Yeah. - He was awarded sole custody of his three children. - Oh wow. - So he found himself in desperate need of a place for them to live on kind of short notice. So he found an apartment at the last minute and moved. The new place was not an ideal situation. It was small, it was cramped. - An apartment with three kids has gotta be tough. - Well, and it required his two boys, Eli, and Elliott to share a bedroom. - Yeah. - But with so much disruption in their lives, it was really just the best he could do. - Yeah. - He was trying his hardest. Now, the family spent two years in that apartment before Steven finally accepted that he needed a larger space for his children. But in the small town of Union, Missouri, that's where that clerk is. That was proving easier said than done. Steve later said, "I had answered just about every add "in the newspaper for rentals, but he was having no luck." Finally, after weeks and weeks of searching, he got a call from one of the landlords he'd found through the paper. The house he'd called about on North Christina Avenue was still available, and she suggested he come to an open house that was being held that weekend. - Okay. - Now, as soon as Steven saw the house, he knew this is it. This is perfectly what we need. It had been well maintained, it was in a good location, and most importantly, it was very spacious. His daughter Eliza said, "I thought the house was really neat. "I didn't have to be so close to my brothers, so valid." As they toured the house, Steven and the kids couldn't get over how perfect this house seemed. - I bet it's not. - Steven said, "Imagine if I'm like, and it was." - The end, the end. - And they screamed with how it was. - Okay. - And that was it. Steven said, "It was more house "than we ever imagined for the price." - That tells you something. - And we immediately decided we had to have it. We have to have this house. - Good luck. - Now the family was wicked excited to get moved in. He said we had invested so much in this move emotionally. It wasn't just a normal move for a family, it meant something. Now as they were moving, the last of their belongings were being moved into the house and a car slowed down alongside them. And from the passenger side window, a voice called out, hope you get along okay here. And then the car sped away, ominous. And Steven couldn't see who it was or even acknowledged the comment 'cause they just sped away. But he figured like, "Oh, it's probably one "of the neighbors welcoming us to the area." And they just meant like, hope you have fun here. You know what I mean? - Before anything happens, you wouldn't. - You would never think twice about that. - You just kind of be like, "That was a weird way to say it." - Yeah. - Now the first few nights in the house proved pretty uneventful. And they just unpacked stuff, got into setting up the house. But as he walked through the house and packing boxes, he noticed something unusual. All the interior doors had hook and eye latch fixtures on them. Like the kinds you might find in an old cabin or an attic. - Okay. - A lot of my doors have those 'cause of my cats. - Okay. And the thing was, the latches were on the outside of the doors as though they've been put there to keep something from getting out rather than keep someone from coming in. - Okay, that's weird. - Now the first sign of trouble came a few days later. - Yeah. - As Stephen was putting away the last of their stuff in the living room, he had just hung a large framed picture on the wall and turned to walk away when he heard a big crash behind him. And he turned to find the picture had fallen off the wall. - Okay. - Now, thinking nothing of it, that should happens. - He was just like, "Damn it." - Yeah. - He was like, "That was too far on the wall." - He rehung the picture and started to walk away when he heard a crash for the second time. Sure enough, the picture had fallen to the floor again. - He said, "We don't like your choice of art." - It took four tries for that picture to sit in place without falling. - That's actually wild, but he tried that many times. I give up after two. - I think he was like, "I want this art on the fucking wall." - I'm like, "Did you pay a lot for that?" - And to be honest, I probably would have done the same thing. I'd be like, "I chose this. I put something in the shut-ups." - Maybe I would do well in this house 'cause I'd submit to it. - 'Cause you'd be like, "All right." - I'd be like, "Yeah." - "You're people, please." - I'd be like, "That's one." - You don't like it, that's cool. - Yeah. - I'd be like, "This is my house." - Now, as Steven struggled with the picture in the living room, the children were having their own unusual experience on the front porch. It was Eliza who first noticed it. Anytime someone passed by the house, they appeared to become very uncomfortable. Eliza called out to her father and told him to come outside, where she told him about the strange behavior. He said, "They don't like walking in front of our house, dad, isn't that weird?" "Huh." Steven wasn't sure what to make of this, like her claims. Really, he was like, "What?" Like what do you mean? - Yeah. - So he sat outside for a while and watched. He was like, "Okay, I'll see." And sure enough, anytime someone passed by the house, they appeared too quick in their pace. - No. - And a few times he called out a greeting, but they just kept their heads down and continued walking as though he hadn't said anything. - Okay, that's rude. - That's really rude. - Also, this real estate agent knew what the fuck was up in his face. - Yeah, what the fuck? - It's fake of them not to share. - Very fake. Steven thought the whole thing was strange, but he chucked it up to just like an unfriendly neighborhood and tried to put it out. - Oh, it would be such a bummer. - Yeah, you'd be like, "Damn, yeah." Now, when the weekend came, the entire family spent the day in the backyard mowing and just cleaning up. Having lived in an apartment for years, they'd never had a yard to play in. So Steven was determined to make it as clean and inviting and like kid-friendly as possible. - So far, I'd love his vibe. - I know. Once he'd finished the mowing, he asked Elliott to go down into the basement to get the hose so they could wash down the walkways. - Good luck, babe. Although they'd fallen in love with the house immediately, the basement was the one place the kids, especially Elliott, seemed put off by. - Oh. - Why Jazz Kim? Maybe he didn't make it known before that. - Okay. - Like many older homes in the region, the basement had a fruit cellar for storing jars, but it also had an old butcher's shower that the men would use at the end of the day. - What the fuck? - So like to not track the water or other debris into the house? Besides the shower was a bench and a large sink and a spot traditionally used to butcher animals. - Cool. - Now the darkness and mustiness of the basement was enough to make it a spooky place. In the addition of the shower and sink made it feel a little more unsettling and weird vibe. - I don't love it. - Now a few minutes passed and Stephen was just about to check on his son when he heard screaming coming from inside the house. So he ran and he found Elliott in the kitchen, wide eyed and terrified. Elliott told his father he had just grabbed the hose and turned to come back up the stairs when he sensed something was behind him. He dropped the hose and ran up the stairs as fast as he could, knowing that whatever was behind him was chasing him. Fuck that. He said, "I heard something come up after me coming up the steps. I just freaked out so I took off." And Stephen and the other two kids went down to the basement to look around, but there was nothing there. Damn, Brava's other kids. But they found the garden hose on the floor where Elliott had dropped it to run. And just to, there's different varying reports about how old the children are. I don't think it's been like bully confirmed. - Okay. - In case you're wondering. I believe they're somewhere in the ages of like 10 to 13. - Like between three of them, you know what I mean? But I'm not positive so I don't wanna say it without. Now moving to a new home is obviously literally listed among some of the most stressful experiences in life. - So Stephen naturally just assumed his son's imagination had gotten the better of him and he was sympathetic. He was like, "Yeah, well they're also still dealing with like the fact that their parents were divorced." - And also, I'm a grown-ass woman. And if I go in the basement, I run up the stairs and every time I feel like something is chasing me. - If you have finished basement, I've finished basement. So like that's, that's legit. I'm like, "Yeah." - Oh bitch, Mom, Papa's basement, fuck that basement. I'm in a place. I won't even go in there. - It's so vast. - Oh, it's so scary. - Oh, it's this boogie. (upbeat music) - Now by June, they had been in the house for a few months. But aside from Elliot, the La Chanse family had found ways to dismiss the odd occurrences and occasional discomfort is nothing more than just adjusting to a new house. - That's a coping mechanism. - One night on the floor. last day of the school year, Stephen took the kids out for dinner. He was fairly certain they had turned off all the lights before they left the house, but when they returned home, it appeared that every single light had been turned on in the house. That's so rude because electricity is not cheap. No. And he said, "When I walked into the house, I was a little shaken. There was no logical reason for all the lights to be on other than someone in our house." So thinking someone might have broken in, he searched every room, every nook and cranny in the house, but every door and window was closed and locked. That's so fucking weird. Now, as Stephen wandered through the house checking each room, he heard a liza call out to him from the living room, asking why it was so cold in the house. In the excitement of checking, he hadn't noticed the temperature, but now that she pointed it out, he was like, actually, yeah, it is actually really cold and it was like late spring. Yeah. So he was like, it shouldn't be this cold. Checking the temperature, he noticed that it was almost 30 degrees colder in the house than it was outside. What the fuck? Yeah. You can't even make that happen with the thermostat. Stephen said that was the first time I felt its presence. It felt like an electrical current running through my body, bringing tears to my eyes and bumps to my arms. Wow. When the feeling finally passed, he noticed that the temperature in the house had started to rise again. And within a few minutes, it was as though nothing had happened. Weird. Yeah. That night, the kids were watching a movie with their dad in Stephen's bedroom. He sounds like such a cute dad. He does. And they were probably so scared. You know what? When Elliot told his father, he needed to go to the bathroom. By that time, Stephen had accepted that his children were struggling to adjust to the new house. But at the age that, you know, Elliot was, he insisted you can go to the bathroom by yourself, especially since it was right down the hall from the bathroom. When you're trying to teach independence, he was like, I don't want to go to the bathroom with him. He's like, we actually did that for a lot of years. We do need to stop doing that. Yeah. And Elliot reluctantly accepted that and nervously began walking down the long haul to get to the bathroom at the other end. Just before he reached the bathroom door, Elliot was startled when the hallway light blew out. Oh, plunging him into relative darkness. He had almost no time to react to that surprise, however, because he was immediately terrified by the distinct sense that he was no longer alone in that hallway. Stop saying that to me. Before he could turn to run or even call out, the presence made itself known in the form of a large and menacing clown. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah. No. The thing that Elliot was most afraid of, no, it's like it, you literally just his fears. Oh, I think of Widow's Bay when he's like chasing. Oh, my God. That's it. Fuck me up. And he said of that moment, I was never that scared in my whole life. I don't blame you, little buddy. So he turned and ran screaming back to his father's bedroom, bursting through the door and yelling about a monster in the hall. And he told, and again, he's like between 10 and 13. Yeah. And he told his father in siblings what had happened. But despite having had his own experience earlier that night, Steven was still unable to accept that there was a clown in the hallway, valid in that, you know, he might be something wrong with the house. For that matter, Eliza and Eli had also yet to have any frightening experiences. So they just kind of thought that Elliot was like being irrational. Yeah, going through it. You know, that said, they could see how truly frightened he was by whatever happened in the hall. So they did, they didn't tease him. They like, that's nice. You know, comforted him. Yeah. Although they said, you know, they were like at the time I wanted to. Yeah. Of course. No, two days passed without any incidents, which led Steven to hope that whatever it was that was making everyone uncomfortable at a past. Yeah. The next morning, he was to leave to work to go to a trip across the state and the kids were going to be staying with their grandparents until he returned. And as they sat in the living room going over the plan, Steven thought he saw something moving in the kitchen out of the corner of his eye. At first, he thought it might have been a shadow or just like a trick of a light. But then he realized it wasn't a something but a someone in the kitchen. Fixing his gaze on the darkness in the kitchen while trying not to alert the children that he was seeing something, he saw what he later described as, quote, a dark figure of a man. He was solid in form, except there was a moving, churning dark gray black smoke or mist that made up his form. What the fuck? He looked down and rubbed his eyes because he was like, I'm hallucinating. He was just hoping that when he looked up, it was going to be gone and he could just chalk it up to having like a stroke or something. He was like, I'm just hoping that's what it is. But when he looked back at the kitchen, it was still there and it was moving towards the living room until finally disappearing before he crossed from one room to another. What? It was in that moment that Steven was like, yeah, we can't ignore this anymore. Yeah, we got it. Like I've seen it out of here. And he said, you remember telling himself, I have two choices. We could run out of the house screaming into the night like those crazies you always see in the movie. Sue it. Or we could get up quietly, leave the house and figure all this out. Okay. So not wanting to frighten his children. Steven stood up and said, why don't we just like get out and you know, let's go get a soda somewhere before we go to Grandparent's house. Period. Let's go get a soda. Yeah. Let's go get a soda. Yeah. Let's get a soda about this. Yeah, let's get a soda back. Look. Not having seen the thing in the kitchen, all kids were like, hell yeah, let's get a soda. Yeah, let's do this. And he's just ushering them quickly out of the house, being like, soda, soda pop. Let's go. He was like, and came up to the door. He's like, oh, he was the, what is it, the soldier boy? Yeah, the soldier boy. Grabbing his keys, as he all but pushed the children out of the house, Steven could hear what he described as a loud, painful scream of a man coming from inside the house. Why? That was when the children realized that they were not leaving for a soda pop, but were in fact running from a fucking threat, because they also heard it. A man screaming. Yep. At the sound of the whaling coming from inside the house, all four members of the family broke into a fucking run and jumped into the car, sobbing. Steven backed like, like Tokyo drift style out of this driveway. But before they pulled away, Elliot said, are you ready for your phone? No, no, no. Elliot's like a medium. I know. Elliot said, daddy, the basement monster is standing in the upstairs window. Why the fuck are kids so gross and weird? This is even worse because Steven said sure enough when he looked turned to look. He saw the thing from the kitchen looking at them from the second floor window. I am a goose bump. I'm literally I'm a goose bump. I'm oh my god. I'm covered. Gross. And it's just screaming like painful whaling. Get the fuck out me window. Yeah. That night they all slept at the grandparents house. I would never go back in the next morning. I'm literally demolishing Derby my house. And he had to go to the trip the next morning because it's work like he can't afford. He's in charge of all three of these children. I can't breathe. So he can't afford to not go on this trip. Yeah. And so he's got to know, luckily they can stay with the grandparents. But he also has to tell his parents like, yeah, there's a menace to society in our home. And I don't even know if he did. I think he was just like holy shit. But while he was away and out of the house and this does make sense like when you really think about it, oh god, what are you going to say? While he was away and out of the house, he said it became a little easier for him to convince himself like something else is going on. Yeah, I get because he's time away. He's on the trip. Like he's away from it all. I think it's easy to be like, you know what? I think we're all being crazy. Well, in your brain, like, naturally wants to run. And you want to believe this. Yeah. And he's like, you know, I'll be so pissed if my dad came back though. I'm like, you know what? That we didn't see that. Well, his whole thing was like this move and the divorce term have been extremely emotionally taxing for all of us for everyone. And it's been an expensive one. And I he had to put all his financial resources into this house. So he just wasn't ready to be like, you get it. Yeah, he put everything into this house for his kids. And he's like, we can't just let it go. Like, yeah, so I can't believe that it's being haunted by demons. That's why demons, they know when you're broke. Yeah, demons know when you're broke. That's the thing. And that's the thing. So even if they could have gotten out of the lease of this house because they were leasing, it would cost something. There was no money to find another apartment or something. Like they just, all the money was in this house. Yeah. It's like they, where would they go? Right. So taking some advice from his mom, when Steven returned home, he called the landlord. I always say that. You do that. So why don't you do that? Landlady. He called up the landlady on the landlady. Because it's a landlord, but then like landlady. So I just combine. Landlady. Landlady. So he called the landlady. Okay. To ask some questions about the property. Super duper fair. Yeah. The house had been rented through a realtor and aside from signing the lease upon moving in, he had really never had a conversation with the homeowner. Might I say fake assulator. Yeah. And he didn't quite know how to ask about what was going on. What he was without sounding really strange. So choosing his words carefully, Steven asked about whether the previous tenants had ever complained about anything unusual happening in the house. But when it was clear, she didn't quite understand what he was getting at, which I was like, you did. You absolutely did. He asked outright whether anyone had ever reported scene ghosts in the house. He was like, you want me to say to his surprise, the landlord took the questions and stride and hesitated before saying there was one tenant that claimed her dead father had come to visit her. The landlord had always thought the woman was a little strange. So she didn't think much of it. She's like, now I think you're saying no, I think you're weird. And it turned out that the woman who claimed her father had visited had left some things in the shed behind the house. She could roll up and take them all out. Oh, yeah. And also she refused to come back to get them. That's also if it tells you something. She doesn't want to come back to that property. That should tell you something right there. When people leave all their shit and say, I'm not coming back to get it. That's not my responsibility, though. Land lady, that's your responsibility. Get that weird shit out of there. Yeah. What's left there when Stephen checked, he found them exactly where the previous tenant had left them hadn't touched it. There were several items left behind by another tenant before her as well, a man who lived there years earlier and had left in the middle of the night. And the land lady is like, yeah, I don't know. She's a fake bitch. She's like, that's crazy. But otherwise she couldn't recall anything else strange happening. It's just like people leaving in the middle of the night with leaving all their belongings. Yeah. Okay, that's fine. Nothing to see here. So needless to say, this phone call did very little to alleviate Stephen's anxiety, but he had no other choice but to return to the house. What is it going to get so bad that they leave all their belongings? We'll get there. So when the weekend came to an end, he picked up the kids at his parents house and they all returned home. The dread within me if I had to drive back to that home. Now that night, Stephen was downstairs on the phone while the kids were upstairs. He had a deep, he was like deep in conversation with his mother when he heard the French doors that led him to his bedroom being shaken. Thinking the kids were playing in his room because kids do that. He yelled out for them to get out of his room and leave the doors alone. I also can I just say I love a French door. I do too. I love a French door so deeply too. There were a few moments of silence. Then he heard the doors rattling again. This time harder and louder than they had before. So annoyed. He's like, Hey, guys, stop. When Eliza replied to say she was in her bedroom reading an Eli and Elliot were asleep in their room. Gross. Now, Stephen's heart dropped into his fucking stomach at this point and he nearly dropped the phone. And before he could respond to Eliza, he noticed the temperature in the kitchen dropped down again, followed by the feeling of the electrical current running through his body, quoting him in place. This time, the experience was accompanied by a terrible, putrid smell. Oh, I don't like when that happened. He said like something was dead and rotten in the room with him. Then the screaming started not again. At first, it was quiet as though it was coming from somewhere like deep in the house, but it quickly picked up momentum until it drowned out every other sound in the house. It was terrible, agonized screams. Like fuck up and in the whole screams. But not long after it began, it felt like the whole house started to shake. Like they were experiencing an earthquake. I'm not a religious girly, but call a priest. Yeah, call someone call the Deacon. Yeah, call the Deacon. I don't even know his job. I don't know. He's called the Pope. Yeah. Now, Stephen was able to drop the phone and begin to move when he heard what sounded like footsteps. That sounded like they were coming from an impossibly large man coming down the stairs. Never an impossibly large man. Each one was coinciding with like a jolt that shook the house. There's a fucking jolly green giant up in this bitch. By then the children had been alerted. And Eliza was calling out to her father from the second floor. And the terrible sound of this man's agonizing screams were mixed with Eliza screaming out in terror. I am so overstimulated. And he said that's the reason he could move. Because he wasn't able to move at first. He felt like he realized when he said when I heard my daughter screaming in this entity screaming, I was able to move right now. I'm really in a place of Stephen forever. Like feeling like something was pursuing him through the house. He ran to the stairs, skipping. Sorry. Is his mom hearing this on the other end of the phone? I don't know. I don't know. Okay. But he's like skipping steps as he's like running up to get the kids. And when he reaches the second floor, Stephen yelled out to Eli to grab his younger brother and get outside to the car. Eliza on the other hand was frozen in place with terror and would not move. She just was like paralyzed. Tag yourself. She desperately tried to get his daughter to snap back to reality. Like we got to get out of here. All the while listening to those loud footsteps and screaming happening. I'm like, just throw over your shoulder. You got to get out of there. Now by then, the screams had morphed into something truly unnerving. Bitch, that wasn't truly unnerving. It sounded like the man's agonized screams had mixed with the voice of a child. Get the both of them here, screaming at the same time with the same intensity. What do you mean? What do you mean? So knowing that they need to get the fuck out of there right then, Stephen could think of no other way to motivate Eliza, which you might back up scream. He slapped her. Oh, Stia. I'm only laughing because you were just like, I am so first. But you know what I said? I made sure I know this is the 90s. I'm going to be in a place of it with what I know right now. It's the 90s. And you got to get around to the house. I'm not saying I would slap my child. I'm just saying like, there's a lot going on. I don't know if he tried. Do you even lift, bro? I don't know if he tried to and couldn't lift her. Like if she was like stuck in a way. I do not know what was actually happening. Listen, times. It did finally wake her up. Like he said she was in like a trance. So he was doing the thing you see in movies, which is like, he's a star. Again, I would not be slapping my child in the face, but I have also not been in this situation. So she was brought back to reality. Taking Eliza by the hand, he fled down the stairs and out the door as the house was shaking violently and cries of pain were echoing all over in a man's voice and the child's like screaming at the same time, not synonymously. So not why can't I'm tiniest simultaneously? Now outside, he packs all his children into the car and just drives down the street, parking at the top of a hill where he could still see the house, but we're far enough away out of danger. Just like to the neighbors here. They're shit and not like they must because that's why they're all freaked out. When he got there, he called his parents and told them what happened. And they were like, Hey, you should bring the kids to our house and we'll all figure out a plan together. I'm glad they believed that. Yeah, they were like, sure. Now before driving away, he remembers seeing the swirling mass through the window, going room to room. As though we're still hunting for them unaware that they had fled from the house. Oh, yeah. The chance, the chance children never returned to the house after that. I'm so glad to hear that. I'm so good that move. We're we're back. Stephen, Stephen went back a few more times to collect some of their belongings, always bringing someone with him. He never went by himself. He said, Everyone I brought into that house with me would also witness something happen. A scream whispers pounding from the floor above, it was not selective anymore at who it let here its fury. A few weeks later, when he returned the keys to the landlady, she looked at him and said, Some people are meant to live in an old house like that. And some people aren't. I never thought you were the old house type. Fuck her. Fuck that bitch. I would have a hard time not like spinning in that bitch. Slap her. Slap her. I put a spin on her. I'm just kidding. But like, uh, no, that. That's fucked up. Like he has children. Like she was an asshole. She really said, I thought you were cut out for this, but I guess not. And she was like, you know, what I didn't think you had in there. Then you own the property. You let him with three children moving to that house. You asked, Oh, yeah, she's like, it's just old. I'm like, I've lived in old houses. They never screamed at me. They've never screamed or been putrid at me. Yeah. They've never rotted and screamed at me. Now, Stephen and the children stayed with his parents for a few months until he was able to find something new. Of course, Stephen. And in the meantime, the owner of the house on North Christina Avenue began showing the house to new potential renters. She should stop doing that. By the end of the bell. Yeah. By the end of the month, Linda Marsh, Emmett Bryce, and their daughter Ashley moved into the house. Not Ashley. Not actually. Uh, Linda said, we thought we'd hit the jackpot. You did. It just felt so comfortable in there. And it was like home. It's weird. How it almost seemed like homes. Yeah, it welcomes them. Yeah. It gives them a false sense of security. This house is a man. It is. No, Dera toxic. This house is a toxic. No, during the day, Ashley is away at school and Emmett's at work. So Linda was home just unpacking vitamin. And just as in the case of Stephen LaChance, the unusual activity started almost immediately. One afternoon, just a few days after moving in, Linda was unpacking boxes in the living room when she started hearing noises coming from the floor above her as though someone was moving furniture around. She immediately is very uneasy as though she's like, I feel like someone's watching me now. Like she could get that weird feeling. And she was like, but I knew no one else was in the house. So what am I hearing and why am I feeling like someone's watching me. And she said most of my thoughts were that someone was in the house. I didn't know what I was to run into. It was scary. Now later that night Ashley was putting away her things in her bedroom when she again started hearing noises. Now the daughter is this time they were coming from the hallway directly outside the bedroom. She said it sounded like slamming doors that started softly and grew louder the longer it went on. Okay. So she's terrified. So she runs downstairs and finds her parents sitting in the kitchen and she told them about what she'd heard and her father immediately was like, no, like even near it. He's no Stephen. Not a Stephen. Until Linda, his wife, shared her own experiences about what she heard when she was alone in the house. For Ashley, her mother's support was validating, but it didn't do a lot to make the anxiety go away. Now on the other side of Union, Stephen Lachance was trying to get settled into his new home with his children, but he was plagued by dreams of the night they fled the screaming house. That's he's traumatized. He can't help but feel like the dreams or some kind of warning. Like he had an obligation to inform the new residents of what they experience. He's a good man Savannah. Now after a few weeks, Stephen finally got up the nerve to introduce himself to Linda and Emmett. But you know what is so cool? All these other fake auspices were just scuthing by. He went back. Yeah, he did. And he helped a friend. Yeah. But he said now he was going to have to choose his words carefully. So as not to frighten them or give them reason to dismiss his story. Okay. Although both Lyndon Emmett listened politely as Stephen recounted what happened to his family. It was only Linda who believed him. Imagine a man rolling up on your property. Yeah. And being like, hey, this is what me and my three kids experienced in your house. And I just want to let you know, that's a movie. And imagine your husband being like, I don't believe you. I would fuck him up. Even though you and your daughter have already had experience. I'd be so pissed off. Now and she thought he could help. And she, Stephen later said, my advice to Linda from the beginning was to get out. I mean, it made a whole house shake. If it can do that, I know it can hurt you. Yeah. And he's right. Now the more time they spent in the house, the worse the activity became, especially for teenage Ashley, who was already struggling to adjust to a new home and a new school. One night while Ashley was in the backyard talking to a friend on the telephone, she spotted something unidentifiable, ifiable hanging from one of the tree branches. When she got close enough to identify it, she was, this is like, yeah, animal. This is a, this isn't real. Okay. But she saw it. Okay. Trigger warning. Ashley was horrified to see it was the body of an infant hanging upside down by a rope tied around its ankle. She dropped her phone. She ran inside to get her mother screaming, but when they returned to the backyard, there was nothing there. What the, so she just could like, shown this. What the fuck? Yeah. Little Elliott sees a clown and she sees a dead infant hung upside down by its ankles from a tree. How do you ever come back from that? And who would make that up? Yeah. How do you even make that up? No. I actually expected you to say it was like a cat or something. That's what I would have expected. And I was going to be still upset. Now I'm even more upset. Now for Linda, this was very alarming and more than a little unbelievable because like, what the fuck? Yeah. And she said at that point, I was really concerned that she was having some kind of mental problems. I mean, mental health crisis. And she said, and my first concern was drugs. I accepted the fact that she was hearing noises because I did too. But as far as seeing things, I was not seeing the things that she was. Linda said, bitch, you're tripping. She said, what's going on? It wasn't just that Linda hadn't seen what her daughter saw, but it was all part of a noticeable shift in Ashley's behavior as well. She was angrier than she had ever been in the past. She stopped sharing things with her parents and she was becoming defiant. Yeah, because they moved her into a haunted house. Yeah. Now a few days after Ashley told her mother about the baby and the tree, Linda received a notice that Ashley had been skipping school with surprising regularity. When Linda confronted her, she didn't deny skipping classes and deflected by telling her how much she disliked their new circumstances. Okay. As they were talking, Linda noticed a cut on her daughter's arm just above the cuff of her sleeve. And when she pulled up the entire sleeve, she noticed and trigger warning again. Yeah. She discovered that Ashley had been cutting herself extensively in order to deal with the stress and negative feelings. Awful. Fearful that this could lead to something a lot worse. Yeah. Emmett and Linda took her to the hospital where she was admitted for psychiatric observation. Now, although he still refused to accept that their new home could be haunted, Elliot could see how the experience was affecting his family, obviously, and reluctantly agreed to allow Linda and Stephen to invite a local paranormal research group to the house. Okay. Because you, I think that seeing that must be like, okay, something. Yeah, let's do something. A few days later, local psychic medium Betsy Belinger and her group, the St. Louis ghost search, arrived at the house to see what they could uncover. Now, Belinger said, when we first walked into the home, we felt spirit activity. I could tell that it was not human and that was something otherworldly. And exactly what it was, I had no idea. As they walked from one room to the next, the team used a boom microphone to record any sounds or incidents. And it was while they were searching one of the bedrooms that the audio engineer began hearing a man's voice speaking softly, but the sound is muddled, and he couldn't make out what the voice was saying. At the same time, Betsy began to sense the presence of an older man in the corner of the room. She said he was not shying away from us. He was just observing what we were doing while we were there. So the group stood like perfectly still for a few minutes, and eventually they were able to make out what the voice was saying. I don't even know if I want to know, but I do want to know this is my house. Have it. I'd be like, yep, correct. I'll you when they were finished walking through the house. What the fuck? What was that? Fuck, I don't know. No, it's my phone. Oh my god. How dare you? Oh my god. I think I just peed. You have to keep it. That was so scary. I just went silent. I was like, my entire ass lifted off this chair. My whole body. It was like, zwingies. Shit, the seal I did. Holy shit. That was so scary. Cause it shook the floor. And I was like, oh no. It was loud. It boomed. It shook the floor. Fuck you for that. Fuck you for that. Oh my god. Woo. All right. Holy shit. I'm so scared. You know, I know what I mean. I didn't smoke. Oh, all right. When they were finished walking through the house, my god, my stomach out. That's you reported back to Linda what they discovered. And she believes the male spirit was that of a former occupant who had not moved on, obviously. She wanted to drive the new occupants out. The more concerning problem, though, was in Ashley's room. Betsy said it was not pleasant. It was not a pleasant place to be. Although she couldn't be sure whether the force in Ashley's bedroom was a spirit or a poltergeist. She felt relatively certain that Ashley had telekinetic abilities and at least some of the psychokinetic, excuse me, abilities and at least some of the phenomena they had been experiencing had been a result of her negative feelings, like feeding on it. Oh, okay. It was one of those things where it like draws. Well, we've, we've talked about cases before that happens with teenage energy, especially like puberty. Yeah. There was also the matter of the spirit and the basement, which the team believed was that of a former owner as well. The spirit was extremely negative and angry and it to seem to determine, seem determined to force Linda and Emmett out of the house. Given everything they'd experienced so far, Betsy predicted the activity would only get worse and suggested that if they don't think they can live with that reality, then they should seriously consider moving out of this house. So there's two former owners. Yeah. That are, this is like a demonic, a demonic, I mean, really is a demonic. The worst or just a regular one to be quite honest. I think this is just the H.O.I. They were searching for houses. I was like, I will not do an H.O.I. because I will, I will be defiant. Now up to that point, Emmett had still not had any of his own experiences with the paranormal. It was convinced his wife and daughter were misidentifying ordinary for a nominant, which I was like, I don't like him. Babe, I don't like him. That all changed, though. Good. A few nights after Betsy and the St. Louis go to, go search team visited the house. Show him. He and Linda were asleep in bed when he was awoken by the sound, by some sound in the corner of their bedroom. As his eyes adjusted to the dark, he could see something moving by the foot of his bed. So he couldn't tell what it was. The site caused him to bolt upright and when he did the figure at the end of the bed, darted back into the corner and disappeared. And he said, so now I've seen it and I believe it because I've seen it myself. You should, which also was pretty fucked up to say, like your daughter of wife have also seen it. I was going to say, believe your family asshole. He's like, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, you had to see it. Happy you believe it. You're the end all be all buddy. Now while Emmett and Linda considered their options for dealing with the house, Steven decided to do his own research into local records. He was not done using the information provided by Betsy. He discovered that the property dated back to the Civil War. Oh no. And had been the home of John Crow, a captain. in the Confederate Army checks and an owner of enslaved people. It had also been the site, which I can imagine, is where those agonized screams might be coming from. Oh no. It had also been the site of an unusual amount of crime and violence, including several murders in the execution of a Confederate officer by a firing squad. Are you kidding me? Yeah, I'm not. Steven shared his findings with Emmett and Linda, which only confirmed that they needed to do something before things got worse. Yeah. That night they had their local priest. It's a good time. Come out to the house to perform a blessing. I think I feel like it's passed that to be quite honest. I don't think a priest is taking care of this. But from the moment he arrived, Linda could tell the man since something was wrong in the house. I don't have it as a holy water for this. Linda said he seemed like he was very uneasy the whole time he was in the house. He just seemed like all he wanted was to get out. The priest blessed the rooms on the first floor, but when it came time to go upstairs, he started packing his things and told them it wasn't necessary to bless every room. It is, though, baby. So he literally said, fuck that. A man of God. A man of God. A man of God. A man of the cloth said, I'm not going up there. So how? I think I did a good enough job down here. He just, like, tossed some up the hallway, like up the stairs. I think we're okay. It actually kind of spreads. Like it's cool. That night, Linda went to bed, hopeful that the priest's blessing was enough to bring an end to their nightmare. How did he go to bed in this corner? Or this corner blessing, I guess. But a few hours later, shockingly, she was awoken by the feeling of something heavy on her chest and a pair of unseen hands wrapped around her throat, cutting off her air. So after a few seconds, she was able to wake her husband and the attack came to a abrupt end. But there was no longer any doubt as to whether this house was dangerous now. Now, the next morning, Linda was still deeply unsettled by this attack in the night and called Steven to tell him what happened. Like Linda, Steven believed that unless they did something soon, someone was going to get actually hurt in that house or worse. And Steven told Linda, pack a bag and he said, I'll come and pick you guys up and I'll take you somewhere. But when he arrived, things were far worse than he imagined. He said, I saw the bruises on her body. At that point, she appeared suicidal. Oh, my God. Just completely at the end of her rope. Fearing for Linda's safety and health, he brought her to the emergency room. Where she didn't do it. Yeah. I don't know if it wasn't home. Maybe it was at work. But she was admitted for treatment and observation. And Linda told the psychiatrist that she was feeling hopeless and suicidal. And she made no mention of what was happening in the house. Well, because she probably didn't want to be like sectioned. Well, and maybe she just didn't know the connection. Maybe there was like, like, sapping her. Yeah, yeah. Finally, after a few days, she began to open up to the doctor and was surprised to find that not only did he not dismiss her claims. Wow. But he actually believed her. So the doctor told her he definitely thought that she was suffering from depression and anxiety. And he did prescribe her medication. But he also strongly suggested that she move the fuck out of that house as soon as possible. Really? Like, that was part of his recommendation was like, move out of the house. That's wild. But a doctor was like, you know what? I think you should get out of there. Upon her release a few days later, Linda and Ashley moved in with family. Well, Emmett stayed in the house until he was able to find a new rental a month or so early later. Now, not long after Linda and Emmett abandoned what was their dream home. Another family moved in, but they were gone within six months. Why? Why? Like, stop renting out this place. Well, according to Stephen LaChance, the house eventually developed such a bad reputation that the landlord was no, was now struggling to find new tenants. And eventually she converted the home into a dog kennel. I hate this bitch. I literally fucking hate this. If I see her, it's on site. It's on site. Are you dogs? Yeah. We're going to put the most beautiful creatures on earth here. I say tear the house down and plant a garden. Yeah. Yeah. She's evil. She's part of the problem. Yeah. She loves this. I, I'm shooketh. I'm shooketh by that Steve did write a book called the uninvited the two story of the Union Screaming House. Yeah. And I think there's also an episode of that show, a haunting. Are we done here? Where? Yeah, that's it. It converted into a dog kennel. And that's it. What? You, she said Steve did write a book about these. There's so many more questions, but so, so little answers, you know, does it, is it still a dog kennel? I think it is. That's what I was trying to look. It was a dog kennel. It might still be. It was a dog kennel. But then some, some sources say that it's like a vacant lot. Yeah. Plant a garden. Yeah. Plant a, put a plaque there like Jesus Christ. Yeah. And the plant of a field of sage isn't a sage, a field of sage. Yeah. Isn't that a terrifying story? I hate that story so deeply. It was, that was one of the most diabolical hauntings I've ever heard. One, the Screaming House. Thousand percent. The Screaming really got me. I get overstimulated by yard work. Yeah. Like the sounds of like Mont. Yeah. I always say Mont-Lowers. Mont-Lowers. Yeah. Truly. And like, like, blowers. Yeah. A child and a man screaming from the same body simultaneously. And then like, stinky smells. House is shaking. Yeah. I got to slap my kid to get out of there. I got to slap my kid. What the fuck? Yeah. I don't know. I hate that story. But I like, that's a good haunting. That is a good idea. I would not. If you wanted to investigate there, I would probably say no. Really? Yes. I feel like I would. I know. Because you're crazy. I'm not going anywhere near Missouri. Wait. Last week we were going to go to Missouri. No, I'm not going. Now we're not going to Missouri. You said Missouri, right? Huh? Missouri? Yeah. I'm not going. You're not going. The whole of Missouri. I love y'all. I don't even drink beer. I don't need to go to your caves. I like that. Steve. Was that helping him? Was that helping? Like he was trying to warn other people. Yeah. He warned a whole lot of us. He did? He wrote a book. He really did. Holy shit. Why was anybody skeptical? People are always skeptical. To them I say, "Shush. Shush. Shush, go baby. Shush. I'm so deeply affected by that story. I feel uneasy right now. I feel uneasy. And we'll link to Steve's book and all that good stuff. But yeah. Fuckin' A, dude. I'm sayin'. I guess we hope you keep listening to it. Yeah. I'm like fucked up right now. We hope you keep it. We. But not so weird that as a landlord, if you rent out to these people and then be like, "I just don't think you were cut out for it." But I've got a bunch of dogs are. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you.