The Truth Behind Citizen Vigilante - Uwe Boll | PBD Podcast | #829

Citizen vigilante is officially number one on Amazon and number one on Apple when the most controversial movies I've ever seen before if you've seen it you already know what happens to your emotions rage mixture of feelings of What is wrong with this guy? I'm citing with them. He's a good guy. No, he's a bad guy. Why did he do this? And if you haven't seen it when you do I watch it two times in three days Just to see what angles this one and by the way it is it is dark. It is nasty Glorifying the violent message of this film, but it's become hot Elon Musk made the movie free on X for 48 hours and so I reached out to the writer director and producer Away Bowl who's written a lot of controversial things. This guy's even fought five critics That said bad things about his movies and each one of them he knocked out cuz he used to be a boxer back in the days Growing up in the streets of Germany and I ask him a few questions I want you to kind of see it for yourself One does he feel people will be inspired to do something about this cuz other people watch it like wait a minute What's happening in Germany? I'm gonna be Germany citizen vigilante. I'm gonna be UK citizen vigilante I'm gonna be australia citizen vigilante. There's a reason why this movie's been banned in Germany and others because they're worried It could lead to something, but it's also popular rotten tomatoes critics gave it an 8% But the people gave it 94% 94% of people who watched this movie they liked it Why there's a reason for it having said that enjoy this interview with the director producer and The writer of the movie citizen vigilante I don't what's your promise the future looks bright So my guess today is the producer of the movie citizen vigilante away bowl away It's great to have you on the show here today Thanks for having me. So I mean I got a lot of questions to go through with you But when you made this movie what army hammer did you think it was gonna be a number one movie on Apple and Amazon? No, but I think I know I would steer the pot You know that people will flipping out about the movie That was clear for me because I did something what nobody else even tried to do to give some like brutal real impact Into this a whole mess of The migration situation situation in in Europe, you know So I really wanted to put the finger in the wound and show what other people in other movies Never would mention the covering it up the sugar coating it and I was furious about it That's the reason I did that so okay, so I will get into the movie But before getting into the movie can you share with the audience your background? You got a very interesting background on what you've done So maybe for the audience that doesn't know those who know you they have an opinion about you But those who don't can you share with them your background? Yeah, so I I doing a lot of movies. I did 40 movies There were a lot of like stars in a Jason's death and banking sleep Geraldine Chaplin meet law of Michelle Rodriguez. I shot with a lot of stars But I started was like 60,000 bucks and doing German fried movie that was the German version of Kentucky fried movie a comedy I love and that movie was shown in the movie theaters that brought me into the business So I learned making movies basically in making movies and so because nobody wanted to produce me I turned into my own producer - and that was I think the best decision of my life because so Nobody could really take advantage of me in the system and I was able to My film company from 1991 is still the same company. So I never went bankrupt or anything It's still the same company and as I said I made big movies like in the name of the king with Jason Stasm and Bert Ray notes was even in a Ray Liotta For 20th century Fox and some for universal loan and the dark blood rain video game-based movies But I did also a lot of political movies a Southern Wall Street about the 2008 banking crisis The four about the genocide in the four very hot movie like Hotel Rwanda style Rampage Postal so I did a lot of things. I've wrote myself. They're more political more serious and of course the big commercial movies More like popcorn movies basically God and and so but you also took a break and you went and started a restaurant Which became you brought a Michelin star chef, and I think it was the number 27 or 37 restaurant in Canada You made the top 50 list. What was that all about? Why did you leave that to go into the restaurant business? Yeah, I lived in Canada my wife is from Canada and I missed the food like the German food, you know And I felt like I bring a great German chef and we had the classics too Viener Schnitzel like but from the wheel of course not from any pork. We had the Zauabrah and stuff like this Like German classics, but we also had a full-on tasting menu like a Michelin star restaurant and I did that 2015 2016 I shot my movie Rampage part three and stopped making movies and felt okay I did it so long. I did so much. Maybe I should retire from making movies, but then 2020 I Felt me it's I have to I love it too much. I have to go back making a movies and then in a way Covid came and we had to close the restaurant because of the shutdown and I felt that's kind of a sign You know like to say, you know what then we're wrapping it up now. Now we're closing it and we're not reopening What was very clever by the way because I in the first week of the shutdown I felt already that will not go fast away So I basically Close that right away another guy bought all the equipment and then I said okay now I go full-back on movies and on the movie side Again very interesting for you to go from there to the movies 40 plus movies Is it true that you decided to fight five of the movie critics and you literally knocked each of them? Is that a true story? Is that a myth? No, it's a true story Jeff Snyder from variety he had to throw up on the sidewalk after it's all on YouTube So you can we did that we did it in the plaza of nations in Vancouver. It was sold out. It was even on pay-per-view at the point and It's on YouTube. So it's a lot of there's even a ducal raging ball I'm I think on Amazon or something and No, I was so loaded up, you know this reviewers you see it now with citizen Vigilante 2 24% of the audience laughs it But the ten people who wrote a review like a Typical overball the worst piece of shit. Oh, yeah, but so it's like I'm so used at the normal reviewers They hate my movies because I like making Movies in your face like blunt movies like dirty hairy desk wish That is the stuff I grew up with the wild bunch is one of my favorite movies and That's really the stuff I grew up with and I cannot stand all this artificial Drumming around the bush diverse vogue Right or shit, but you know, like I cannot watch it about star wars. Oh God. I'm so done with all these movies. So and the reviewers they don't Like this kind of blunt movies in a way, you know, and they hated me also that they boxed the critics that like He I thought that I found it for example, you know, and you see they couldn't box. I box when I was young so I know I cannot really get killed by this by this people and Then I don't know what's clip of this Yeah, I mean, I see the numbers a guy named Peter Branch off from Guardian gave it a one of your movies a zero out of five Star called it badly acted in political in flammatory you knocked them out a variety taught Gil Gilchress You knocked them out then you got the bulwark sonny bunch gave it a one star wrote the film was so astonishingly bad that it almost Arms army ham you got on these newer guys on what they said the guys in the past that said it is rich Keonka who for a founder of something awful had some scathing reviews you fought him Chris Alexander you fought him from Roo Morgh magazine Snyder which you he lost by TKO and enchantment mentor And then last but not least Carlos Palencia Jimenez Arguelo who lost by TKO question for you Take me back to you being 14 15 16 years old Will you a troublemaker will you a street kid will you a gangster will you a fighter who were you at 14 15 16 years old? No, I was in a boxing club and I trained really four five times a week. That's also think you know when I talk to this kind of Green party members who were always pampered and never had contact to Street crime people are also I mean when you go to a boxing club You have a lot of people from around the world. You have the Albanians and so on and I know that they understand Basically only strengths they respect strong rules and Strong like you know like they laughing about you when you're weak. They beat you up so and I think our governments mostly, they don't get that, they don't get that, they don't understand that if you give these people the street, they will take the street. And because they are like all your poor guy from Afghanistan, whatever, you know, poor guy from Syria. And when you have a heart, a hand with them, that it's in reality, this is what they understand. You know, when they getting it, like if you steal as a migrant in London, in the warehouse, you will get removed the next day, then they maybe stop stealing. But when they think like, nothing will ever happen to me, I can do whatever I want, then it keeps going with grabbing woman, draping woman, stabbing other people, robbing people or having this grooming gangs, what what we have, that all happens because they're not scared of the law. They know like, oh, in the end they say, I'm a traumatized refugee, I just had to rape that woman. So and all this stuff is like a lot of these people, they talk about people like this, but they never met them. I mean, I know people since they were like five years old, they are like the Albanian mafia, you know, you could order whatever you want. If I was at the boxing club and I wanted a new like disc player, I gave them the thing I want that disc player and they're like, next training, I got the disc player for 50 bucks instead of 500 bucks. So I know how these people think and how they operate to give a shit about the law. So that's the thing, but they respect people. They also showing strengths and are not scared. So that's the big misunderstanding about like criminal migrants, like this gangs and the clans and so on, you know, and they are abusing the system. I said also yesterday at the Pierce Morgan, I'm not against migrants. I mean, if you go somewhere, I don't care about your religion, your skin color. I worked in my movies with all nations together, I shot in Africa everywhere, but I have something against criminal migrants. Like criminals who abuse the system, the social welfare system, but also who are risk factors and going around and killing people, pushing people in front of a subway, stabbing people, random stabbings. That's the reason I did that opening scene in Citizens of the United, where that mother gets stabbed and bleeds out. We had that thousands of times in reality. And when then the guy was yesterday at the midi from the Guardian, he acts like the crimes are all the Nazis doing against or right-wing people doing crimes against migrants. No, it's like a hundred times different. Like it's a hundred times more where migrants doing crimes from school bullying to theft to rape, stealing pickpocket in everything. I mean, it's a criminal statistic that shows it 100%, that 700% higher crime rate under migrants. So and I think the problem is with a lot of people is they're not even willing to accept the facts. You know, even Pierce Morgan yesterday, he said like, oh, I actually have no problem with illegal migration from Islamist countries in England. I mean, is he blind? That's a very strong position that when he was here, he and I talked about that. And he's firm on that. He really believes there's nothing that's going on with that. And obviously a lot of people disagree with that. But this story you made, the character that's played by army hammer, he is a rich guy that inherits a bunch of wealth, right? Real estate wealth, all this stuff. And his mother obviously gets killed while they're leaving the liquor store. And the father wasn't really in the picture. Is the character Sanders played by army hammer based on somebody you know or did you create that character? No, I created that. I created that. Okay. You created that character. Okay. So, you know, and so when you when you when you called army and you shared with them, hey, this is what I'm thinking about. What was the reaction when you shared with them that you wanted to have this part? How did he receive the character? No, he read what I wrote. He said, oh, that's tough stuff. But the good thing is he was in a situation. He needed the money. He needed to make the movie. He wanted to go back to acting. And I think it's a great character to come back to acting. I told him like, that's the lead part. Like you will be like in the in a way an action star back to do this to do this movie, you know, and he was perfect for it. I mean, look at him. He would be perfect to be James Bond, the new James Bond. So and he really delivered the part. I saw your show where you said you never saw like a real dark movie. But this is what I wanted. You know, I wanted it that you it's unforgettable that the people like, boy, that's maybe too much. You know, so because of course that the overall impact of the movie should be like not like, okay, let's be all vigilantes now. We should everybody who doesn't have a bus ticket. No, the idea is the governments need to make sure to protect their citizens that you are like peacefully can walk in a city and be not scared that somebody steps you from behind. And that's the message that like you need to bring security to the streets. Otherwise, people will revolt. People will say it's enough now. Okay. So let's stay on that because I've had Dominic Tarjinsky on from Poland. I don't know if you know who he is, Dominic Tarjinsky. And he's a big fan of this movie. He posted it all over the place. Poland has a lowest crime rate in all of Europe, 0.3 percent, lowest unemployment, lowest anything. And he says, we will not let one Muslim in our country. That's his words, not one zero. And he says, because of that, we have the lowest crime rate. And he said this over and over again, if you can find that clip of him saying that when he's being questioned about it. So then here's the question. If say the government doesn't do anything because they're not, I mean, in the movie, you saw that other character, which becomes the villain who is supposed to stop Sanders. And he's representing the government that's there to take care of him and says, you can't do this. He says, I don't like what my government's not doing, but my job is to stop a guy like you because you're not supposed to do what you're doing. What do you say if, when I watch the movie Joker with Joaquin Phoenix, I don't know if you've seen the Joker, I think you probably like a movie like that because it's kind of, there was a 43rd minute where the enemy became the capitalist. So it's kind of like go kill the capitalist. And then you have Luigi Mangio and he that goes and kills the CEO of United Health Care in America. And it was a massive story all over the place, right? But some people were like, he did the right thing. So let's flip it here. So let's just say, if somebody watches this movie and they live in UK, have a hundred tough guys that are street thugs have nothing to live for. Their dad is dead. Their mom's not in the life. Nothing. They watch this and they say, if the UK government's not going to do anything, if the Spain government's not going to do anything and they're inviting even more migrants in, if the France government's not going to do anything, we're going to take it on up to ourselves. We're going to go kill these rapists ourselves. Say a hundred people in Europe decide to take it on upon themselves, including in Australia. And they go kill a thousand rapists. And they do what he did, Sanders in the movie. Do you look at those people as heroes or do you look at those guys as villains? No, I mean, of course, I would always say you should not murder people. You shouldn't kill, right? So in general, but having said that, I think that's the mathematically like chance gets higher and higher as more illegal migration comes from people. They don't bring value to the society. And they even demand this kind of, they demand the street. I give you a, give you an example. I wasn't frank with what I was sitting in a restaurant and I came a demonstration train, basically, with a woman with a balker on top of a pickup truck. She had the microphone. Police was there to protect the Palestinian or whatever pro gas up a demonstration. And she was yelling at the microphone, cops up, picks, picks, picks, kill the pigs, picks, picks, picks. That was she yelling. That was basically everything that she never said anything else when the train moved by and I was sitting in a restaurant. And I felt like, are we, are we crazy? Like what that cops should think about it. So they protecting these guys that they can do a free demonstration where they basically say, kill these guys who protect us here right now. And we are in Frankfurt, where all the banks from Europe are in the super high tech city. And nothing we ever did in our countries is even close to one building in Frankfurt. So, and I felt like, you know, it's insanity to to give this stop like a chance for me. These people should get the port at the next day. Sorry. It's, I mean, it's like, there is no way around it. If we don't get a hard hand against like criminals or people coming into the country who in any form are not useful for the country and just get social welfare and then going on the street and demonstrating like this. I mean, what, what are we doing? You know, and the, and the normal like lower middle class in Germany, they barely make it through an America that is saying they barely make a paycheck to paycheck and they work the whole time and then they they see these people, they're getting six kids, it's six times 300 euro, every month's just for the kids, then they get free housing, they get free healthcare, free schools, you know, I mean, you have to make 5,000 euro to get what they get for free. And that's crazy. We have to finish this welcome culture and just have our own interests first and say, look guys, when you come here and you work and you integrate, you pay taxes, you're welcome from whatever country you come. But we cannot continue to get like plates like this. That's really, you get plate. And, you know, I have Muslim friends, I've nothing as Muslims. But like radical chariot teaching Islam has nothing to do in Europe or America. That's just like, that's against everything we ever learned against civilization, against natural science, against any other religion, because they should die in their ideas. And I don't know why so many like normal Muslims, a lot of times kind of protecting them and not like criticizing that louder. You know, saying no, that's ridiculous. If people running around and stabbing people, pushing them down the stairs, grandmas down the stairs, like people, like I saw so many videos over the time. And then you discuss with people and say, there is no problem. That's other people rape, other people too. Like in marriages, people, husbands rape women. Yeah, but not in a bush with 15 teenagers. I mean, it's insane. There are huge difference in the way crime is done by this migrant gangs and stuff like this. And remember, forget I watched a video where a guy with a baby carriage went to Paris, like a father with his baby in the baby carriage. And the guy comes, steps him in the neck and he bleeds out on the ground and is dead. And the baby is in the baby carriage. Like we'll never see the father. So why do we do this to us? Why these people are there? Why these people are not gone? You know, so that's the thing. It's like we, this so suicidal. But here's my question for you though. If the government's not going to do any, this is what I'm trying to go to because this movie was made my opinion. Well, let me ask you because you're the creator of the movie. How much of this movie was to inspire? How much of this movie was to entertain? No, I think all my movies always have to entertain too, right? So they have to be not boring. That's the worst thing you can do with the movie. And unfortunately, a lot of movies are too boring. But no, it is too, but it is not too inspired to burn the city down. It is to bring the pressure and to open the eyes of this kind of woke left people who close their eyes and don't want to see the reality. They never had contact to violent people. They never had, they never saw people getting beaten up. I mean, I sort of nonstop when I was young, right? So I, and that's the thing. It's like they have no experience with violence in a way. And that how fast it can escalate, you know? And they sugarcoded. They just think that's not, what about accepting it as long they don't get it, you know? A lot of these people, I think if they are one time in their life in a dangerous or violent situation, they would maybe start thinking a little different about it, you know? So, and that's the thing. It's like, I was in Berlin actually this year and they played my movie Run, and that was Amanda Plummer, like it's also about a kind of refugees, but they played the movie in a movie theater. So I went back to the airport at nine o'clock with the subway and then the street cast basically. And I was completely alone in the last things because it was the late flight out. There was nobody in that thing besides me and five or six, like they looked like Arab gang members. And they saw in a way, I had like a glass bottle in my hand, I always buy it, me is in a glass bottle before I do stuff like this, you know? Because a glass bottle is a perfect weapon. And they didn't, they didn't do anything with me. So they felt like, nah, it's not worth the risk. But if I would be a girl in that subway, in that street curved thing, for like 20 minutes, completely alone in the middle of the night, basically driving there, she would definitely not be safe. They could grab her out on any station what was holding because the Berlin airport, the new one is very far out of Berlin and you go to No Man's Land for like 25 minutes. So, and they could grab her out there and she would be toast. It's like, why do you think needs to happen? What do you think, but what do you think needs to happen to those six seven men that say would have raped her? Because I had Rupert Lohan on the podcast two weeks ago. He wrote the report on the 250,000 rape accusations of 87% being Pakistani. I had the whole report, I read the whole report, I had him on, we had the conversation about it. If the government's not willing to do anything to those who rape these individuals, what do you think needs to happen to them? Say the government does nothing. Say, say the next 20 years, they go rape another five million people, the five million innocent young girls the next 10 years. - Yeah. - Do you think, what do you think the average, somebody who is a gangster, mafia, street guy who has nothing to live for? Do you think it's okay if they go take care of those sex, seven boys, men that raped that 14, 15-year-old girl? - No, and that's the thing. It's like, if this would happen to my daughter and this guy's would be free, there would be not safe that I can tell you, right? So they would, like if they're not going to jail for what they did. In my case, they would be not safe that I guarantee you. - And you would be comfortable you going to jail. If these guys did something to your daughter 'cause you brought it up, you would be okay with the consequence of what happens to you. - Yeah, if they catch me. - You know, like what, you know, so, yeah. So, and that's a thing, but I understand that a lot of people would just live with it and would be very sad about it and would be depressed about it and they have a miserable life. I mean, the thing is where I flipped out on a journalist in Hamburg who even said the perpetrators are also victims, victims of wrong integration. So now this people, the rapist, living 15 blocks away from the girl. It's not like they had the money. They were all lower and the girl too. So they were still living there. It's not like, okay, now we move away from Hamburg. No, the father has a job. So they have to stay there. So now she could be every day meeting the rapist and the rapist could laugh their ass off saying, I wasn't even in jail. I was 17, the judge felt I'm too young, whatever. So, and that's why I did this harsh and scene where he just shoots everybody. Where the sister posts like they're all horrors, that the girls are all horrors because they're not like having the bokeh on, they're having running around with the bikini. So, and I basically did in that movie what a lot of people think. What a lot of people in a way than at least in that movie because in real life it doesn't happen. They're celebrating it because it was so crystal clear. Saying, look, dear government, if you don't prosecute, heart crimes, I mean, for a rape like this, how can you be not even getting any jail like probation? I mean, for what you get, like you do a text fraud, you're five years in prison. So, and then you do like a heart game rape and you walk free and everybody pads on your back, like, oh, you had a heart childhood in Afghanistan. So I understand from time to time, you have to rape a woman. I mean, that's insane. And the thing is, they should get 10 to 15 years or even better, they should leave Germany the day after the rape and go to wherever they come from. You know, and then you tell the Taliban in Afghanistan, when they're from Afghanistan, this guys are rapists, you do your law on them because they were illegal in Germany from the get go and now we bring them back to you. So I have to do whatever you want, I give a shit. So, that's the thing. I mean, I don't know, maybe I'm too radical on this, but I know only I personally would not take if somebody steps my son and he bleeds out or my wife bleeds out in front of me, this guys would be not safe, that I guarantee you. - Let me ask you, why do you think there isn't more of that, meaning, if these 250 kids were raped, to 250,000 raped stories that you have. 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They're then picked the way to not fight. They picked the way to be depressed. They are basically, yeah, they cannot do it. It's like they're, I would not say they want to follow the law. I would say if your family gets killed, you don't want to follow the law. Everybody want revenge. But most of the people, they just cannot handle it. They cannot do it themselves. They don't know people. They can go and do harm to other people. That's the thing. It's like a totally different kind of world. Yeah, but look, when you talk about backbone, for example, you don't, you don't find also in America, even like look at the film industry. You know how many people I know who are actors or people in the film industry, they voted for Trump. And they never says it. Say it. They would always say, don't say it over, don't say it to anybody. You will never work again. Blah, blah, blah. And I said, I give a shit. I was like, I always said what I mean. I don't care what the consequences. But they know, oh, I need, I will never work again at the Netflix TV series or I will never get a job there. So if people are scared to even say who they voted for or why they voted for somebody because they could have a financial disadvantage out of it, that shows that most of the people that just don't have any courage. So then they would never do anything. What is actually could have a jail penalty for them as a consequence, they would not do this. So that I think is the reason that so many people just are then too weak. They don't pull it off. So you know, it's, this is such a complicated movie. I watch it twice in three days. And my wife comes and she's like, why are you watching it again? I said, because, you know, I just have to watch this one more time. So I went, I didn't watch it one time. I watched twice in the three days. And it's so complicated. It is so complicated because whenever I would talk to some Italian mothers who lived in New York City, say they're 75 years old. And they would say they missed a mob being in New York City. I said, you missed a mob? Yes. We missed a mob. Why? Nobody would mess with us from the outside. And as long as you respected them, they were good. They took out their own. I said, but I mean, so you don't support the fact that Rudy Giuliani got rid of the criminals and he cleaned up the streets. She says, yes and no. So tell me why yes and no. He says, because once they got cleaned up, other people from the outside came in to try to take advantage of us. And nobody feared the mob anymore because they were gone. So they started abusing. So the opposition started. And even in LA, there was an area called Manhattan Beach. I don't know if you've been to Manhattan Beach. It's a very wealthy area. And you don't mess with Manhattan Beach. It's probably 65, 70% Republican. And it's people in Hollywood that nobody wants to know the Republican, Hollywood people that live there. And one time Black Lives Matter was going there to protest. I want to say the Mongols or Hells Angels, Biker Gang showed up and he said, you ain't coming across here. You're just not. And so it took the gangsters and street guys to push away from protesters and the other guys that were going to come and destroy the city. So this is why it's a very, very complicated story because if a family is living in Europe and their government is not doing their part to keep them safe, what are you supposed to do? Leave? Don't do anything. You call the cops. They won't do anything. There was a guy yesterday and a young guy that is being bullied in the streets, a white guy in UK. I don't know if you saw this or not. He's being pushed around. The cop comes and the cop accuses the white kid instead of the ones that are trying to beat him up. And it was the most random thing that you're seeing online here. This is the clip here. I want you to watch this. This is I believe in Birmingham. Go ahead. How is the cops? Are arresting the kid that's being bullied by the other seven eight kids? I mean, this is this is the weirdest thing to see happening in a place. So what is somebody supposed to do just allow the cops are not even going to protect the person that's being bullied? No, because the cops know the white kid will not grab a knife and step them. So it's easy to like, in a way, the cops are scared already and obeying to the street violence. They are like, you see, it's a little woman. So and cops in England, I don't think that you haven't even guns. What is completely absurd in a way. But in England, I think they never had guns for whatever reason. And I think so. They cheek grabs him because he's kind of an easy target for this. And it's not going after that. And I mean, interesting when you came up with the health engines. I followed two and a half years as a documentary for me. It will come out in the US too. It was here on Amazon. I followed the banditos two and a half years. So I know all the banditos all everywhere around the Europe. And made a documentary. So I came very close to them. And where the banditos are, similar to the health angels, when they go to a world run, it was the last world run was in Barcelona in Spain. They liked four thousand banditos. And when they are there, there is no crime in the whole city. It's like nobody steals, yeah, that's the banditos. Nobody. Yeah, that's my movie. You see on the bit in the middle in the below. I see it. Away ball from away ball banditos. Yes. Yeah, yeah, that's my movie. So and it's absolutely safe when you around them. And when they are somewhere, they tell like the city don't worry about it. Similar to what you said with the with the Mongols or the health angels. When they promise something, they hold it up. That's the reason they don't cooperate with the law enforcement. They have their own laws. And but they follow strict orders. Nobody is going completely balloony. That guy would be like not seen anymore or whatever out of the club. What is then like very bad for somebody. If you get like out of a club without you have to give the vest away. And you are basically free to chase, you know, like this kind of stuff. And that was for me very interesting. And my dooku is kind of positive about the banditos. Because inside the thing, there was honor and you keep your word. There was, you know, they that's the thing. It's like and we are not getting it done similar in the in our population anymore. Everybody is caved in for themselves. Nobody helps the other person. And I saw a lot of things. And in the banditos when people had financial problems, they get they're getting help by the club. And it's not always like, okay, now we give you 10 grand. And then you have to do right away something for us. No, it's like they taking care of their brothers. That's a fact, you know. Yeah. And you know, I mean, I'm sure you know this. You know this movie is going to inspire people to be Sanders. If you haven't already seen, have you seen the stories of what people are doing around the world based on the inspiration of this movie? You know, you're seeing stories with a guy in Mexico that's going in, you know, taping robbers and, you know, there's a bunch of, you know, low key Sanders, you know, stepping up around the world that are inspired by the movie that you made. By the way, do you think Sanders in a movie is a hero? Not I would not say he's a hero. I portrayed him as like kind of a cold guy who has not a lot of emotions, whatever. But he's doing the in a way, he's doing the right thing. He corrects injustice. And he goes after criminals. They otherwise can do whatever they want. And I think a very good scene is in the bus where there's three kids in a bus don't pay the ticket and he pays the ticket for them and tries to explain it to them because I felt that scene is very important to show that our society doesn't work if part of the society don't put anything in, you know, like when nobody pays the bus ticket, there are no more buses. That is what he basically tells them. So he paid the ticket for them. But you cannot as a citizen just expect that other people pay your bills that you do nothing in return. And that's very simple. And that, but that's That's the idea of a lot of now also in America, like this kind of more socialist communist also gets in Germany, gets bigger and bigger the left party, really communist, have over 10% in Germany already. So it's, that this kind of like, you know what, we just take it, we seize it, like the Miami-Dame, like the mayor of New York, we're just like, oh, that guy has 250 million bucks, we just take half of it. Otherwise, the next step is, now we charge the building he has or whatever, but the next step would be, we just seize it, like, we take it from his bank account, that's all over the media, that's all over universities where they teach this, like, you know what, if somebody has too much, we just seize it, like otherwise incarceration, then are the ideas from the left, you know, they're always flipping out of the ideas of the right-wing parties, but the left, also in America, they have ideas, they would destroy everything, like America built, or what, like, the Europe built, you know, if you feel like, if I make any money, that's the straight way to get shot, and they take all my money away because I'm, by accident, I got rich, and now I'm a piece of shit because I worked hard and got some money, that's the mentality, that it gets bigger, and bigger, that mentality gets bigger, and bigger, and bigger. And I got letters, I had a movie set up here in Germany, and I got various letters from actors I hired before, and they said, based on this movie, no, they can never work with me again. So they came in, like, two, three, four days ago, and these are big name actors? No, they were, like, good actors, they know them from TV shows, but I'm not saying the names now, but they were booked, basically, for the show, I'm thinking about canceling the told show now, and like, okay, then we do it another time, but that's very frustrating. You know, when you, when you feel like this kind of propaganda made people change this drastically way, that they don't even know, like, you know, that the human connection, whatever, you know, it's unbelievable, it's really like, it goes in a wrong direction, and I think this political radicalism in general, especially from the left, is going slowly out of control. You know, I had a whole discussion with a Kamla Harris fan, and I said, look, if you really believe in the borders are open, 8 million people coming into the US during the Biden time. Why is that? When I land in New York City, I have to show my passport to somebody, to an immigration officer for what? I mean, if you think that doesn't matter anymore, who goes in and out, and all borders are open, and you just open the South border and 8 million people from Latin America coming in. But why I then get teched up down in Tazard, if it was just past the immigration, and would say, I'm not showing anything anymore for what? So, and she said, you're a good point, we should get rid of them. That was a real reaction, but that's where we stand already, you know, it's crazy. Yeah, I mean, a part of this, a part of this movie for me, I think you increased the tension of emotion so high, so high, the rage to want to seek vengeance, because, and the way it is done, like, if you watch the second Top Gun, not the first one, Maverick, the second one, if you watch it closely, the one thing they did very interesting is they didn't tie the enemy to any country. I don't know if you've seen Maverick, the second one, there is no country. So you're not, it's not like Rocky IV, Drago, is Russian, hey, you know, if he can change, and I can change, anybody can change, and he's kind of trying to bring USSR and US closer, the enemy was Russia, right? You watch some of these movies, you know who the enemy is. If you watch Gladiator, it's the ultimate revenge movie, but you don't get out hating a country. You get out hating Joaquin Phoenix, and, you know, Maximus is the hero, but when you watch this movie, Citizen Magellante, it is very clear the statements that Sanders makes. You know, I don't think your country send the best kind to us that one line, you know, the post where the sister says she deserved it because the clothes she wore, do you want me to take the post out? You know, the 14 year old boy that raped the six or seven of his friends, and then he says call all your friends to come over. The scene is a very epic scene. I'm not going to call them five, four, three, two, call him, call him. He calls him one by come over and bring everybody else and then boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, and then boom, boom, boom, that is a very vicious scene. And then the judge scene, which, if you don't mind, if I have your permission to show you the scene from the judge, you know, the part where they're in the car, and, you know, he's like, you play, he plays the clip, you know, where Sanders is showing the clip. You know, which one I'm talking about? Yes. If you go to 22 seconds on this clip, I think it starts at 22 seconds. You're too bright. Go a little bit back. Okay, watch this. I want the audience to see this. To set it up, would you mind explaining this to the audience? What's going on here before we play this clip? Yes. So that was the judge who actually let the rapist go, right? So who basically didn't give them real jail penalties. And then Sanders basically had the material from the press conference over this press statement he did and shows it to him during a kidnapped him, you know, to confront him with what he said. Basically, that's the clip. Yeah. And he puts heroin in his neck to get him to not be so he is in the car right now. The judge is to the right, Sanders is to the left. He's taking him somewhere and he plays this clip for him. Go for it. Let's see what you have to say. This is all I have prepared and this is all what I'm going to say to you. The politics failed to integrate teenage migrants into all society. Also didn't give them the help to function by our rules and our laws. The gang rape was in a way a crime for health and structure. Not only the young girl is the victim, they are also victims. Really believe that? Also the perpetrators get in trouble for us. It doesn't help the young girl if they are getting locked up now and getting their normal life for a long time tonight. That's all judgment. That was you after letting a gang of rapists free. You can pause it right there. I mean, look, I don't care where you are politically. You watch that. That generates rage away. And by the way, was that based on a real-life judge that you depicted that individual? Yes. There was the judge from the Hamburg Fox Park case who said that and I felt in a movie, fictional movie, you can put that out. You can say, look, it's my rage, it's like I wrote this with rage. So I felt like, in what world I'm living now here that people get away with this and not getting fired, like this judge, how can we be still a judge? That's completely insane. And that has to get corrected, like where is the honor of a judge, like for what you have paragraphs with whatever, bank robbery, eight years murder, lifelong prison, I mean, so what is that written if you can just completely ignore it and make this kind, yeah, that's the thing, you know, and 14 years she was at the rape. So at the trial, then she was 15 or 16 years old. That's insane. It's all like the, it's disgusting and we have to stop and also Muslims have to stop protecting perpetrators and criminals only because they're Muslims. That's not the question of any religion here that has nothing to do with religion. It has to do with this kind of no moral, no values, you know, if that's connected to religion. Okay. But it's for me, connected to you never learned what the most simple rule I think in life is you don't do to others what you don't want that they do to you. So if you have that rule, you don't need basically any other rule, so but they never learned them. They learned like if you're weak, we can do whatever you want with you and you don't deserve it because you're weak. And that was the thing, you know, I saw so many times when I was still boxing that you had like this kind of like, I have to say more like from the Arab countries, you had new people coming to boxing, they couldn't box at all. So they did a sparring and then they got heavily knocked out beaten and they were laughing the asses off. And I have to say I could never do something like this to people that cannot defend themselves only if they're movie critics and the ring and even there I was not really hitting them devastating. So, but if you see this, it's not going to be a problem. see this guy tries to learn to box, you don't beat them up and give them a concussion, but they were laughing at us. They loved it. So that's also early learned by me. There isn't different mentality to it. And it's like there is no mercy. They feel good. Like when they beat up the video, you showed me with the kid. Like there were like four or five guys, and they were like enjoying it to beating her up. Look, he's all alone. Now he's scared. Now we do this. Now we do that. So that's the typical behavior. I started a hundred times myself. And I think that's disgusting. And I think like as I said, if you come in our countries and you show behavior like this, then you're not a fit. Then you need to get removed. Yeah. And they say in their own country, if they did it, they would be killed. They say that. If they did that in their own country, they would get killed, but not in European countries. The story that you're talking about, the German gang who raped a 14-year-old girl and left her like a piece of meat sparred jail. There's another one that says, you know, what happened with them with the 2020 Hamburg park gang. By the way, nobody gave the name of, nobody gave the name of the judge. So they don't even know who the judge was. Eight or nine people raped them. And German woman given a harsher sentence than rapist for calling him a pig. I mean, this is do you think they realize if they keep doing this eventually, it won't be long till one of these countries experiences a revolution. I mean, you see what a Tommy Robinson is doing and he's just going out there trying to make some noise, but which by the way, I think Tommy Robinson was just interviewed by Australian reporter. I don't know if you saw that one or not. He was with Carl Stefanovock. If you're familiar with him or not, Tommy was on Carl Stefanovock. I think the Australian guy got fired right off the bat. So you see a Tommy Robinson in UK going out there making noise. And people are showing up tens of thousands of people showing up. And that revolution hasn't happened yet. But if these guys don't fix it, especially UK having seven different prime ministers in the last 10 years, my worry truly, my worry is, and this is the conflict of the individual watching your movie, my worry is this movie is going to give birth to hundreds of sanders around the world. Do you worry about that? Look, as a filmmaker, I cannot like, I look, the consequences of a movie, if something happens, I, whatever the JFK movie from Oliver Stone, maybe open everybody's new investigation and thinking about was it not the Harvey Oswald alone? Maybe that movie when that came out also changed in a way history. A lot of people started thinking about that whole JFK backstory again. And I think you make a good movie. If you make your impact on society, on thinking about stuff, and maybe also leaving an imprint, I would never say that I'm responsible for any violent acts people do because they watch the movie. I think the problem makes them violent. If there is no problem, why they should get violent? I mean, the people are so fed up by this completely ignorant politicians sitting in Europe and watching Starmer Macron and Merz living in a completely absurd parallel world to the society. It's not only in that migrant crisis, I mean, we can, don't even want to start on the Ukraine war and stuff like this. It's insane. They completely don't do anything for their own population. Like, nothing. They save everywhere money and go deeper in depth, but they're handing out money to everybody. Like worldwide, and they say, look, we are the, it's all about how we stand in their moral, like, like the only good side of history, you know, and whatever. And then it turns out Ukrainians blowed up our pipeline with Russia and damaged us 100 billion bucks and prosecution. Oh no, shit. It were Ukrainians, our best buddies, but why our best buddies blow up our pipeline? Right? Because they're not our best buddies. So as an example, it's totally absurd, you know, the biggest bugatti in it, like whatever dealer, Bentley dealer is in Kiev. Why, why all that money? What we send there? Hundreds of billions. Why not a lot of people like on the front lines in Ukraine? They don't even have something to eat. Where is all that money? You know, so that's a thing. It's like, it's, we see it left and right. I don't justify your Putin's invasion of Ukraine. You should never did that. But you also cannot have a blind eye of the total corruption in the Ukraine. It's completely corrupt. The whole country is completely corrupt. And they're stealing left and right. That's the reason there are no elections to just stay in power. And as long as the war as long as the kids stay in power and scrap 20% of everything what comes in. It's that stuff. I mean, it's an endless loop about European politicians where you feel like you don't care about your own taxpayers. I mean, I pay all this stuff as a taxpayer, all this bullshit. And I don't want to pay. I don't want to put my money for governments. They just give it all away. I don't know if you ever saw the, I think I have to go even to a different thing. I have a reddit thing going, but the thing is we paid bicycle lanes in Peru, like Germany, like tens of millions of dollars to build in Peru bicycle lanes. And our schools falling apart or bridges don't get repaired. And you think like, what is wrong with you guys? Are you fucking insane? I mean, that's really that the normal German person. People are like a lot of friends on from all different social classes I have around me. And we all together think they lost completely their mind in the last eight years. It's basically I don't know what COVID or the vaccine did to the brains, but they lost it. It's like completely over. You don't even know what to talk about it anymore. And with the migration issue, you have it right in front of you. They're going in the middle through Frankfurt and say, kill everybody who's here. And you say, good for you. Oh, wait, let me ask you how much money did it cost you to make this? What was the amount that it cost you to make the movie? Only four million bucks. And how much have you made so far? How much has the movie made so far? That you have to ask Quiver, entertain them. Okay, you don't know that. You don't know it yet. No, no, I get every half year in accounting. And I hope I get my money back in half a year, right? So far, I basically didn't get any money back. But now slowly, but steady with as a country's rolling it out. Has Army committed has Army committed to vigilante two? I didn't really talk with him about it. I said, look, that could be a franchise. And I think we should do it. But I have to talk more serious about it. Because as I said, right now, I do a lot of like press and stuff, you know, I wrote down even ideas for the second part. I'm sure we do it. And if Army is not out of his mind, he of course comes back. And has any other actors like big names, Mel Gibson actors like that has anybody reached out and say, hey, this was very interesting. We'd love to work with you on something. Not mad Gibson, but I would, I mean, maybe he's busy with shooting something, but he will love the movie. I know Stallone will love the movie. His brother tweeted about it already. Stallone's brother laughed it. I know the whole thing from Talta, King, Grillo, Frank Grillo, James Russell, they all laughed the movie. So I know a lot of people in the industry laughed the most. Is there anybody specifically you'd want to work with on the next project? Anyone specifically in mind? No, I thought like when, what is the name? Gina Corralo, like Gina Corralo. Yeah. Yeah. Grano, she tweeted about it and said, that's great. I love it. I would totally put her in there. Why will put you guys in a group text? Are you in touch with her or now? Only via X, but if you if you know her personally, absolutely. I want to put you guys in a group text, I'll put you guys on a group text together. Yeah, it would be great. You know, I think she, she had the, she got cancelled, unjustified and came back. She's good actress and she would be kick ass as I feel the second part should have a few guys, you know, it may be not only one person. I mean, listen, the movie 90, I think 94, 95% on rotten tomatoes by people and 8% by critics, which I always look at the people, not the critics, because I know what the critics are going to be saying. Last question before I wrap up is the following people said, the following about citizen vigilante, Peter Brancheff from Guardian gave it a zero out of five. Todd Gilchrist from Variety gave it a said movie feels Russian more interested in pushing an idea than telling the compelling story. Sonny bunch from Bolwar gave it a one out of four star and Nicholas Bell from fish jelly films gave it a 0.5 out of five described an inept vigilante movie that amplifies xenophobia, phobia. Would you be willing to fight every one of these guys who just called you out on citizen vigilante? Absolutely! right? I'm sure they'll be reaching out. Especially if I before the fight just read the review again and let's get ready for a break. Yeah, that'd be great. Anyways, Uwe congrats on the success with the movie. Very, very controversial, conflicted movie, but I had to watch it a couple of times because the emotions, the movie produces and I look forward to seeing citizen vigilante too as well here soon. Thank you so much. Thanks for everything. Take care. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. When we set out to create a shoe that blends comfort, function, and luxury, we had the choice to make it fast, we had the choice to make it cheap. We chose neither. Instead, we chose Tuscanira. We chose Trutalian Craftsmanship, each pair touched by 50 skill pairs. We chose patience, spending two years perfect in every detail, and we chose the finest quality at every step. Introducing the Future Looks by Collection. Not rushed, not disposable, not ordinary. Rather, intentional, luxurious, timeless.