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I can't be as skinny as possible, but I also have the fattest dump for either of you. Welcome back to Always Here, we're your host Abby Howard and Abby Howard, and we are here to share. Always. God bless you. We're off to a great start really good, really good. To share the hope in the hard, how's life been? With heart and humor, I can't forget the last half of our tagline. Heart and humor. Yeah. I think I've been great. Good. Yeah. I'm really good. Do you want to start with a hope in a heart or a life update? Let's do life updates. No. Okay. I'm sorry. I asked the question, but I had it in my head. I chose the wrong answer. Sorry. That's really bad. Okay. What's going on? What do you get? Spill. Okay. Because my hope in my heart is also my life update. Okay. Great. So I crossed something off of my yearly goal. I feel like I spent a lot of time with you recently. I went to the dentist. Oh, yeah. I literally was like, I'm going to text her and I was like, this is pathetic. I was like, yeah. I'll ask her on the podcast. Yes. That's crossed it off the list. Any cavities? So that's my heart. I have my first cavity in 30 years. Well, you know what? That's not a bad track record. I actually felt like a piece of my pride that I didn't know what I had was just stripped away from me. That was a bragging right that I had. I had those. Yeah. In a little of my entire life I've never had a cavity. I can't relate. I've never had one. I've never had one of those. And then he was like, you have one. And I was like, whoa. Check again. Look again. I had six when I was pregnant with Griffin. Six at one time. In all different teeth. Yep. Sixteen cavities. I've had a lot of cavities. Yeah. They had to do them on separate days because they didn't want to numb my entire mouth. So they didn't have in half. So, when you get a feeling, does it hurt? No. No. You just feel the drill. No, you don't. I mean, it's the only part that will hurt is the numbing shot. Perfect. Okay. I haven't gotten a shot in my mouth in a long time. I'm a pro. I haven't gotten dental. I mean, I went to the dentist religiously twice a year until I turned 26. But before that, I mean, I hadn't had anything done in my mouth except the cleaning since I got my braces off my freshman year of high school. So, that's a long time since I've had anything done in my mouth. Yeah, I'm a little, like, I had teeth pulled and retainers and braces on that. Oh, you did. Well, you probably had teeth pulled for cavities. No. I had teeth pulled because I had an overcredit mouth. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's for orthodontics. I had like orthodontics. Okay. I had no orthodontics. Really. So, I guess I had no dental work. I've had orthodontic work. Yeah, we couldn't afford that. Really. Yeah. It was also pretty good. Yeah, I had braces like two and a half years. But, hey, I love my smile. I had a muller rotator. What is that? It's my mullers where they're wrong. They're like sideways. They need to be facing the other way. Wow. Wow. He can just leave them sideways. Yeah. You're like, I need to find. Yeah. So, they're like, they're a little caps on my mullers and then a little like U-shaped thing. Oh, my gosh. Oh, I've seen people have that. Yeah. So, that was just like in my mouth. Yeah. I remember when people had those spacer bars to like space at there. Did you have one of those? I had the, like, they were like springs. Yeah. So, when people have braces, they sometimes have rubber bands. Uh-huh. And then when it needs more than that, they have springs. So, I had the springs. What about the head gear? I've never seen a head gear. I knew somebody who I had gear. But, she had recently though. They still do. They still do. You got a knight if they have head gear. But, she, her whole jaw, they eventually, this was my friend. I don't guess I won't say her name. But, she, from like second grade, two senior year of high school, they were prepping her mouth for this surgery that she would have to have. And they had to break her jaw in four places and set it back. And her whole mouth, it was amazing though. Like, it changed everything about how her, she could breathe better. Had to be clamped shut. Yeah, she had to be wired shut and we brought her food and it was like, yeah, had to blend it, you know. For a while. Liquid diet. I know. Yeah, I was really intense. But it was life changing for her. Dude, I was, I was on the other side of things. I was like, low key kind of jealous of people that had braces. I thought they were cool. I wrote my dentist on the letter asking him to not give me place. Santa, please do not give me places. I didn't write it. Like, I didn't write the address correctly, so it got returned to me. Shoot! No, your parents ever sent that. No, I put in the mailbox. Oh my god. They might have wrote it incorrectly, so it got sent back. That's so funny. I put it in the mailbox. That's hilarious. That's really funny. That doesn't lock that memory. That's great. I'm so glad I got sent back to me. I want to get sent back. I was like, good. I hope you. That was impulsive. Oh my god, that's so funny. Yeah, I'm very grateful that I had the orthodontic work I did. In the moment, I obviously didn't appreciate it, but now I was an adult. I'm so grateful. And we're my retainer once a week. Just to keep things in check. Once a week. Well, now that you should wear it more often because I think I'm grinding. Oh, yeah. I think I'm grinding my teeth. I wear a night guard. Yeah, she's recommended I get one. I feel like it makes my breath warm. I believe that. But I sleep with my mouth shut. I sleep with my mouth completely shut, and that's why it's stinky, I feel like. Oh, it's just hot air just in there all night. Oh, it's so bad. I don't know what's going on. It's so bad. Oh, she's like, do you grind your teeth at night? I was like, listen, I'm asleep. How do you know? She's like, does your husband say anything? I'm like, he's never said anything. And he does wake up throughout the night. So he didn't say anything. I mean, that would be some serious grinding for the day here. When you hear people grind their teeth, though it's hard to miss. That's my heart next week. I'm going in for a film. Oh, I can't wait to hear about it. I love to yell. They're not that bad. Yeah, they were like, well, it's actually not bad at all. Okay, perfect. Yeah, I was going in on a Monday and I said, well, I'd be good to talk on Tuesday. You'll be good to talk when you leave. No, not true, because I am so numb. I'm like, shoot. I'll record it. Yeah, try to take a sip of water from a straw. You're just the numbing stuff. Great. Okay. Well, my hope is that I'm officially 35 weeks. I was saying I was 35 weeks for the past day. I counted yesterday. I was like, I'm 35. It's going to be a long week now. It's going to be an extra day. It's going to be eight. Hold this. No, I'll probably just say I'm 36 on Monday. I did that too. I'm like, when you get to the end, you're like, no, I'm actually 38. Well, I think it's because of my head. I was like, I have to keep my mental game until 35 weeks. And so I was like, my mental game went out the door yesterday. So I was like, I must be 35 weeks. I think they're all on this due date. You've got to stay locked in. I am locked in until 5 p.m. Okay. 5 p.m. on. I just am having a pity party in my head. But I really am so grateful. I think I've just said like the entire time. After a pregnancy after a loss, you're like, I just want to hold this baby so bad. I literally do whatever it takes. But it is still hope and hard, right? Mm-hmm. Final stretch. But I also do need the time. So. What do you need the time? It's like I do have a lot to do. I am trying. My heart is that. I really am feeling guilty about mom guilt, of course, every time. About how I'm showing up for my toddlers. I feel like I'm just, I'm like, don't have, I'm like not creative or fun or playful. They're like, chase me. They're like, they don't even ask. They're starting to stop asking me to play because I'm just not being good about it. And it makes me sad. Hello. And then I'm like, it's not going to get any better because then we're going to have a baby. And then what am I going to be rolling around on my hands and knees? No. I'm not doing that right now. I'm not getting up and off the ground. I'm not like, I mean the most I did today was I played tech decks with them for a while. Yeah. And I was like, a few. And when I say a while, I mean like five minutes. Yeah. But you know what? You're at that point where you're transitioning. It's good to transition now before baby gets here. Again, I'm used to you not being as involved. Sad. And then when baby gets here, you'll be preoccupied. And then you'll feel good again in a couple of months and you'll be back to yourself. And then when you remember that, you know, let's hope. Yeah, you'll be great. I feel bad. Yeah, I know. That's sad. I'm not really independent, but I'm like, I want you to play with me. But I do think what they say, I've never thought too much about this because I hadn't experienced it.
Oh my gosh. It's actually happening. It literally is. And like how many times have my kids asked me to snuggle? They're not like that. Yeah. They're not like those. They're not Both of them one of them asked last night one of them asked today to snuggle me. Oh Been a little bit more we have been having more emotions than usual and just like more general cleanliness And I was like wow, this is everyone's feeling it in this household. Yeah, change I just didn't expect them to be like that because they are really independent little guys. And so I was like, it's kind of sweet Mm-hmm, but then it's also panicky and like mom guilty, you know, it's so totally it'll all be fine first Transitioning. Yeah, that's relatable though. I'm sure everyone goes through that and everyone feels that I didn't we didn't really get it with the transition from Gryphon to Or from our for we didn't really experience it with the transition from one to two because it was that he was so young Yeah, you know it was my 13 month gap. And so now I'm like, oh, this is like a Gap where we're actually feeling that transition for them like they're experiencing it. The rug was just ripped out from under it I'll be totally honest. I cannot imagine being how many months pregnant were you with Augie at this point they like if I had Vidin in September and You would have been like six months pregnant If I got pregnant at the same time that you did with Augie, I would say it's one's pregnant right now. That's so crazy when I think about that Oh my god, it's not that crazy when you're going through it. I'll be so honest. You have to get through it Yeah, you're just kind of like you're in it. You're in it. Whatever. Yeah, just life. It has its pros too But when I think about it now, I'm like, that's how I felt when I was like after having my second I was like, okay, wow that would have been wild. We need to take some extreme measures Yeah, I got night. Yeah, I like 99.9% effect Love it. That sounds about right and doubled up. Actually, yeah, that's so great But yeah, that's hoping the heart. Okay, we have a lot of we had so many things happen Sure recaps of every event. Okay, a couple sentences about each we'll just start up We'll combine the fourth of July thing. So we had our all-American val Fourth of July birthday party and our friends Ashley in Caitlin. Do they text you about hosting that party for fourth of July? No, I thought so honored. They were like hey, they told me in person Yeah, like we're planning a party. Uh-huh at your house. I was like amazing That's incredible. I feel so honored by that I was like that's honestly the whole reason why we got our house was to host a bunch and yeah everyone to be welcome all the time So I felt honored. I was like, yeah, yeah, come on over come on open Yeah, it was a fun company and they did we were having it It was crazy actually really we had a guest over for unplanned and as the guest is still here people are filing through our house Setting up this party and then she like walks out and she's like wow It just shows to how comfortable your friends feel in your home to be like we're all in here recording They just walk and they start setting up they get everything ready. You know, the party is here The party was there. What a way to throw parties Party I ever threw. That's great. Uh, you're like you want to stay? Your guest. I know she had a flight but dang out of the water That was so funny. That was really a fun night. So a great full party Good celebration with friends and then to carry on the fourth July weekend our in-laws came in town We did a pool party just within our family Um on Saturday, which was fun. Yeah, just with our family, which actually is game bigger and bigger Yeah, I was like just out of family. I think it was a lot. I think it was like nine adults or eight adults. Yeah Four kids. No, I'm sorry. That's terrible man five kids It's a fireworks four five Yeah, five. I don't know why eight adults five kids. Yeah, it's just two four six eight Ten which on Theresa two four six eight ten ten adults Um, but at the all American Val party we watched Sandlot by the pool at the end And I was watching him with the kids and I was reminded that I mean, maybe our kids are a little little gong for that one They cut and then the kissing scene they're all the answered so stretched out and I was like Oh You start yelling. What'd you say? The trend out the game. It surprised me. Yeah, we're trying to do the cough thing, but they're stretching out. Does it really work? Pop pop thing The kissing scene all the kids like this on the TV Just staring at it. My kids are unfazed by kissing actually. Yeah, but I just on the TV. I looked at CJ. He's like He always looks like that was like The locked it It was cute. It was really cute. They liked it. Okay. Yeah, then next was Griffin's birthday party I mean, that was Thursday and Saturday, but that was Friday. That was party of shenanigans Had more shenanigans going on whole kids birthday party at like an indoor trampoline and skate park Which was so fun because the adults got to participate. Yeah, at the end If everyone's husbands were sweating, I was like go showered They they literally Caleb and Matt kept not really Blake Blake wasn't really like his jumping down there by himself He didn't want any of the other people. He went down their plates of basketball. Yeah, they could take Braille down there But that was he was heard on it. She loved it Um, they're they kept Caleb and Matt kept me like watch this watch this did this stupid Ridiculous and he was on his he kept jumping onto his back and then like to his feet and back to both feet They both were like watch this is really awesome guys Why you're getting better? It's not Everyone got a zip line her feet just riding It was really fun. It was really fun. And then we really got up to some other shenanigans because I can't put on I got this uh Rex costume from sphere of hauling you know, gave me the idea. No Was Sophia really? Yes, she's like one of the odds Abigail plays right know that I'd be down for that Cuz that's just who you are Abby. Wow, I'm so honored Yeah, and I literally bought this nine-year dollar Rex costume from sphere Halloween in June. I think it was massive I was like say less. That's an amazing idea Yeah, and it's a huge inflatable Rex costume you guys will have to share the video on this page too It was I was weezing And Addy trying to record a die laughing Addy or Addy was like I was looking around for you guys when the pizza came out I couldn't find you. Yeah, so I was like oh, I know they're putting in the Rex costume I was like let me go see if they need oh did we need help we did so much help Addy came in was like okay, so this is where your feet go I think you guys were there for at least 10 minutes before I came in yeah, we were we needed to have The costume on it. No, we didn't look at it Good to rush day. That was all I had to give you a character analysis But he's scared yeah, that helped he's scared and so I was like telling the kids to grow it and you They love that but they were scaring the dinosaur and then you We're like I was like she's been out here for a while. Maybe she's like kind of done And I think Rex has to go potty cuz that's where we were changing the costume anyway Covered my crotch. I was like they were cracking up You're walking into the bathroom in your head Holy talk police talk. I don't know why in my head I thought when you ask me to do this is like okay, I'm gonna put put on a performance And so I thought I'd have the whole gymnastics floor to like do the worm And I was like should I practice the worm? No way that was ever gonna be possible I was practicing dance moves so I'm really glad it wasn't that because that'd be nervous Yeah, that made me nervous. I didn't ask you to do the worm. No, I know. I just assumed. I'm like I'm a mascot Thinking like game day. I unzipped you in that bathroom in a like a gush of hot air Just escape. I wasn't that costume for 10 minutes. Maybe 15 minutes. I was fully wet like I took a shower Can you imagine those mascot people And it's really it makes sense after that. I was so sweaty. It's so worth it It was so I was honored that was the highlight and then afterwards everyone was like do you think Griffin really thought it was rex? I was like I don't think he cared. I don't think any either of my kids were not like Trying to figure out they were like this is great. We're just happy There was point where he stared at my shoes for a long time and then he looked he looked found you and he goes Like he was putting it together and then he gave me big hug Yes, I don't know if he knew his B or just like one of your friends, but he's like I don't care Yeah, he's like I love this. He's like this is so fun. That was really fun. That was a great time Okay, so those were three parties in a row. That was a lot Maybe we do a new segment because Blake loves to ask adding trivia questions And then when he has one she's gonna relate to us and we see how dumb we are. Yes This was while we're watching my violin random question. He asked me okay What is the least populated state? Oh Alaska Oh, that's a good guess. It's so huge though. Yeah I guess I'll just do something different and say like Wyoming What was your guess my guess? Well first again, let's just say Really small North Dakota potentially. I was watching a show. So I said what said it's North Dakota. I said California, New York That's what I said first. Adi you said new your watching a show. I wasn't pay. I thought he said most populated Okay, so I admit my next question is South Dakota. Okay, and yours was Alaska
- Yeah, my first answer was Idaho. Our answers are all incorrect. - My second answer was correct. So what is your guys' second answer? - Have we said it yet? - Montana? - Oh, we did say it. North Dakota. - It's Wyoming. - It's Wyoming. - Really? - Wait, how's it? - I got it. - Oh, my second track. - As you said, California and New York first. I'm like, I didn't understand the question ever. - Wyoming is less populated than North Dakota. - Wyoming has 588,000 total. - It's a massive state. - What is the population of South Dakota or North Dakota? - I'm still on white, 'cause my first guess was right. - Wyoming. - North Dakota is over 800,000. - Wow. So you said, Wyoming? - She said Wyoming first, yeah. - Good job. - My answer. - I said Idaho, what's the population of Idaho? - Idaho is probably big, 'cause I feel like a lot of people have been going there. - Yeah, I didn't know a single person. - What? - Yeah. - 2.06 million. - Yeah, really? In Missouri, I didn't know a single person. I was like, I don't know, no one lives there. I didn't know anything about it. I thought it was just all potato farm. - Oh, it's all the buzz. - I know, I just knew it. I thought it was all potato farm. And then I met one grown college that was from Idaho. And he moved on here and everyone's like, "Autohoes, the jam." - What a welcome people. - Sorry to anyone from Idaho, but what is beautiful? - It's beautiful. - It's a big city. - I think it's got everything. It's the lake. - What do they call it? - The lake is like the really bougie spot. - Never heard of it. - I think it's got everything, like mountain layers, you can ski there, you can go on the lake. - The terrestrial. - It's got everything. - Yeah, Alaska is just so big. - Yeah. - It's really spread out. I'm sure the population's really spread out. - Yeah. What is the population of Alaska? - I think they only live in like three cities there. - 738,000. - Okay, so not far off. - Not far off. - Well, that's a fun one. - Yeah. - I love state questions. - I'll let you know if there's any more questions that come up. - Tell them that it's now a segment. - Yeah. - There's probably four like this that I get in a week. - Okay, right down. - I'm going to start right now. - Maybe we start calling it Blake's always thinking. - Oh my gosh. That was my thing growing up with Blake. Like I was like, he's making all of this up. Everybody. Like my mom was like, Blake knows everything. I was like, he's pulling this out of his butt. - Uh-huh. - And then sometimes he was right. And I was like, shoot. - Blake is well read. - You know. - He's well educated. - I love that. That's fun. Out of your dime. - What? - No, I just love it. This is fun. - Blake's always thinking. - Oh, he's always thinking. This is a good job. - Well, that's crazy. 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Please, please support our show and tell them that we sent you. - Love us crazy. - Love us crazy. - Love us crazy. - We were talking about states. And you know who else has been experiencing the states for the first time Europeans. For the World Cup Soccer. And that has been a hoot in a hauler watching those videos online. - We're recording Miss America lost yesterday. - I know. Caleb was like depressed last night to the point where I was like, "Shake it off." - Like we were yelling at the TV. I was like, "You have to stop." At this point, it's three-one. - Yeah. - We can have the stop yet. - Yes. - This is Blake the type where if there's TF team loses his nights ruined. 100%. - Yes. - Yeah. - And he's a baseball fan. - I know. - I was like, "Tell me whenever you guys." - Sorry, Cubs were starting the whole day. - And his Cubs were as Cardinals this weekend. - Well, it was, and that game was bad. But the Cubs won the last game of the series so they didn't get swept. - Okay, perfect for you guys. I love the Cardinals, so. - Well, that's by like 17, so. - I didn't remember that. - I didn't bring it up strategically. - No, because with my family, it's actually like serious. - Yeah, I think I learned that. I learned that. - It's not like a bird show. - It's like playful. And then it's like, "Well, actually, I don't think they thought that was funny." - Yeah, like, I think John, our father, and I would like try to be playful. And then I was like, "It's not gonna land." It's way too serious. - Yeah, we figured it out. - That's why I had to marry someone that didn't care about sports. - I didn't watch the game yesterday. It was, I was with my dad. I wouldn't have watched. I wouldn't have even known how to access it. But yeah, I was like, "Dad, you're actually scaring my kids because they don't know what this is." - I told him like to apologize for real. - It's weird. - I was kidding. - They didn't cry too. And then I got the goalie, he was like, "Go!" And then Vivian was like, "I have trauma from this as a kid." - Let's say I was like, "You're scaring my kids." I could pick her up. - My dad played soccer in college, so I feel like for him, like, I don't know. He gets so annoyed when they let it flop and don't get up. So most of his yelling was like, "Get up. Get up. Oh my gosh." And I keep seeing all these videos that's like, women will literally push a whole human out of their bodies and get cut open and be awake on a table and then just go to walking around and eating a baby, taking care of a newborn child. And then there's these players and I'm like, "It's so true." - It is true. - It's actually ridiculous. - Well, it is part of the game. It's strategy. - It wasn't, though, for a long time. And so I think it's really annoying. - Yeah, I'm sure. - Okay, well, what is the meaning? What's the wow that's crazy about that? - The crazy is that all these Europeans and people from around the world are coming to America and then they're experiencing American culture and they're just blown away. - I've just heard people talking about I haven't seen any of these videos. - Some of the videos are hilarious. - It made me want to go to Texas Roadhouse 'cause I was like, "I forgot that this is a gem of a rest delicacy." - It's a delicacy. - And so I did go to Texas Roadhouse. - They were like, "This place is awesome because apparently they brought Europeans some bread." - Uh-huh. - And they were like, "We didn't order that." - Right. - And they were like, "No, it's free." And if you eat it all, we'll give you more. And they're like, "And it comes with the best butter and fruit I've had." And then they're like talking about how that's amazing, free chips and salsa at Mexican restaurants. - Yeah. - We fills on drinks are free. - We fill those drinks. - And just the portion size is being massive. You get so much food for your $1. - $1. - $1. - $1. - And just like, I saw someone too was like, they went to Duncan. They were from the UK. And they're like, "I mean, the Duncan drinks are massive, but you gotta forget being here." - Totally. - That's a normal size drink. It's like, "No, that's really not." - That is a clogged artery right there. - Absolutely. - And they're like, "This is one drink." And they're lamés. - They were lamés, 'cause they're not used to tipping. - Yeah, the tipping was interesting here. - I mean, we'll branch. - We'll branch. - We'll branch. - I'm sure the people that were in the Midwest, I bet they love their ranch. Oh, let's see when the best ranch is in the Midwest. - Oh yeah. - I miss that. - Man, nothing like that makes you proud to be an American. - Proud to be an American. - Lots of ranch, big old beverages, and Bruttered Rolls. - Bruttered Rolls. - I saw one video of, I think there were some men that came from Japan and they went into Bass Pro Shop. That's like a trip even for Americans. You go in there and you're like, "Whoa, there's so much to look at." - All the theaters. - All the animals. And then they were looking at all the GUNs. I don't know if I can say that. - I don't know. - All the GUNs. - Can you say that? The pubies. And I was just like, "Yeah, that's a crazy thing." I was just like a crazy side to see. - Yeah, that was crazy. - You know, that was crazy. - That was crazy. - But it was a funny video. - I saw see for the people that are not necessarily sports lovers. I respect it. I can have fun if someone else turns it on, but I'm not going to seek it out. I was like, "Man, what a missed opportunity to go to Disney." Because someone posted all the screenshot of the Disney World app or Disney Land app like the queuing lines during the time of these World Cup games. - Oh, it was like 10 minutes. - We'll kill by sharing the stats about the World Cup. One of the games, it wasn't even a final game. It was Cape Verde versus Argentina, maybe. It had 2.7 billion viewers. And the Super Bowl gets like 125 million viewers. 2.7 billion viewers is insane. - What's the world population? - Wait, we should guess. This is a good trivia question. - Oh, away. - I'm going to say, don't tell us, Addy. - Okay. - 4.252 billion. - I'm going to say 152 billion. - What the world? - Say that again. - Okay, 1 billion. - What is it? - It is 3. - Or 8.3 billion. - Okay. - I thought I was mad at this. - I don't think there's a billion. - What's more populated country? - Singapore. - I was still really off. - India, I'm sorry, it's India. Singapore is so small. Per capita? - Let's stop with the trivia. - Wait, so there's only 8 billion people in the world? - 8.3. - How many people are in New York? - Credibility is slipping.
in her audience. They're like, "We can't trust anything these girls say." This podcast is about populations. Listen, I don't know facts, but I have good opinion. What would be your guess at the population of New York? I was gonna say a billion. 19 million. Shoot. Well, I'm glad we got that straight. Yeah. Maybe we cut this out. That's so far off. Yeah, maybe my numbers are weird. You've been saying some facts recently. I'm like, "I don't know. I say I'm confidently." I have no idea. We're gonna point with some wagers with you. Yeah, I'm gonna go confident a little bit. Probably a billion. I'm sorry. I'm educated. I wouldn't college. I would do a good college. I graduated with well good grades. But I did go to business schools. It was gonna go like this and we're gonna go viral again with our stories. It's okay. You can maybe look dumb on the internet. I don't. I accept that fate. Anything to get the viewers here, but we are nice. We are kind. We are loving people. And I cannot say the same for people in the comments section. That's a good segue. Let's do it. I'm not here to call them out because this person is a woman and a mom. But she did have the confidence to post from her personal account. It was private. So I posted a video of me just dancing with my belly. I mean it comes with me wherever I go. Yeah, I can't get rid of that. I can't get rid of that. I'm proud of that thing. Exactly. And there was a comment that said something like that outfit is, what did I say? It was like so not flat. That outfit is not flattering her body at all. And a laughing crying face, which I think the laughing emoji is what really dug a little bit deeper. But what dug the deepest was that it had by the time I saw it, which was a couple hours, 500 likes, 500 cyber bullies. Wow. And that's the type of comment that actually is like mean because it's like some people can post comments that are like from left field that are like, you're like, because you're, you're well. I can chalk you off as being unwell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This person was like, oh, so I'm flattering. Yeah. It was just a nasty comment. It was just nasty. And I was like, wow, I'd never really like it really didn't go deep at all for me. And it really didn't, it didn't, it's one of those things right. I don't like to even talk about it because there's so many more like nice people. Yeah. But it does bring up a lot, a larger conversation that is relevant to like our topic for today's episode. Right. We're talking about body image. Yeah. And all the things about, especially being a woman. And I think the part about that that was like, what? That that's memorable is like she was a mom. Hmm. She was a woman. So she's had a bump. She's had multiple, she had multiple children. Yeah. And heaven forbid me at 35 weeks. And not considering the highest priority when picking picking on my outfit for the day. That it's flattering. Right. That I'm looking snatched and skinny. Right. My, my, ooh, I'm so sorry about that. Like my main thing is really just being comfortable at this point. Or just maybe that it fits. Yeah. I'm like, get it on. I can get them on. Like you're kidding me, right? Right. And so that was just a little bit crazy. A little ignorant, maybe. Well, you know, yeah, a little rude, a little rude, a little, a little mean. And those kind of people that say it's pretty dumb. 500 people. But you know, it's really sweet. Is that Audrey are, how are we related to Audrey? Killed in Matt's cousin, cousin? Yeah. Our, our cousin in law, cousin in law. She commented, 'cause this is the reason I saw it because if someone I follow comments, it goes to my notifications. And she just said, "Rude." I love her. Oh, nice. 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[email protected]. I feel like this is a very sensitive topic talking about weight loss, eating disorders, disorder eating. So if this is something that is hard for you to listen to, we would, I mean, just skip it. If it's not healthy for your mindset or all, yeah, I just think we care about you and we want you guys to be also the healthiest mindset that you are. So this is going to be a hard topic to listen to. I would just scoot to the end. We have voicemails at the end and are always hungry segment and other fun things. So don't click off, but maybe we'll put a timestamp or something on the screen that we could skip to. I think in general, women just so much struggle with body image. And I feel like it's a lifelong thing that our bodies are always changing. And so how do we, throughout our lifespan, how are we content through the changes? How have you learned to be content if we are, if we're not, how are we getting there? And I actually, I would get a lot of questions a lot about body image. And I feel like it's been a long journey for me from middle school, high school, college, 20s, pregnancy, postpartum. Like any even being postpartum now actively working on how I see myself and my self-esteem in my body image. So just felt very timely to speak about it. And we did ask you guys on the always here podcast Instagram a couple body image related questions. Just to hear from you guys see for off base if we're like, hey, we're all on the same page here. It seems it says, what age did you struggle with body image the most? And 14% said middle school, 31% said high school, 31% said college/adulthood, and 24 said pregnancy and postpartum. Which actually kind of surprised me. What did you think would be the biggest? I would have thought that pregnancy and postpartum would have been above college and adulthood. Really? Yeah. I think I personally would agree with the findings on this. I would probably say the same statistics here. I would say here too, there's going to be people who have answered this that haven't been through pregnancy or postpartum. So that can also skew it a little bit. I feel like when I was in college and I was entering the internet space more so because at that time it was like 2014 to 18. That was the first time that I saw all these girls online with these different body types. And that was the first time I felt like I compared my body to other girls online. Like I remember the Jay Alvarez, Alexis Ren, videos and the Tumblr girl era and just this aesthetic and this type of body type. And then also at the same time it was like the booty girl era on Instagram, you know? So once I'm like, how can I be as skinny as possible? But I also have the fattest dump you've ever seen. You know what I mean? I'm like, how do we get these two things in hand? So yeah, I feel like college for me was when I didn't feel super comfortable in my body. And it was also the first time that I was like learning how to cook and make food. And yeah, I think that was when things kind of started for me. And the comparison was the hardest and then when I had got pregnant, I felt a lot of freedom from that. Because I think when we were pregnant, you would agree. I'm just not thinking about it because I can't do anything to change my body for the better. It's just constantly going to be going in a different direction. Not saying that, I'm just like throwing it out the wall, but you know what I mean? I'm at that point though. Yeah, I'm at the end. Yeah, definitely not. I'm not counting anything very much right now. Yeah, I'm like, I'm going to eat when I'm hungry and I'm not going to think about what I'm consuming as much. Because I'm just need to do what my body needs. Totally. So yeah, I don't think I'm as like surprised by that. I feel like with social media, obviously, a comparison is like a big thing that's talked about. Are there things that you have done within social media? Like boundaries you've set in place to help with how you see yourself in your body or your self-esteem, your body image? Yeah, I feel like in general, gosh, this thing goes so deep. But okay, in relation to social media, for myself, I didn't feel the need to limit what I was consuming necessarily. As much as like how I was treating myself and my own body and how I was showing up personally online. But that's also probably because I have done this since I mean, I was 20. I was not like, that's when I was like struggling the most. - Yeah, and so I think I was more so thinking about like how am I shit, like what am I, how am I shit?
showing up online. Like, and so for me, I was like, I decided. Remember, that was like the era there was filters everywhere. - Yeah. - And also face tune, that was the first time people would like edit photos, I remember that. And I remember distinctly being like, I need to stop using these filters. Because I mostly was like, finding myself using it when I wasn't wearing makeup or if I was like, oh, I don't really like the way I look right now. And I think filters can be really fun and non-serious, but in the case that I was using it, it was more so for myself, but also for like, the people that were following me in my audience, I was like, I don't wanna just make it look like I wake up and I have smooth skin and it like, I don't know, defined eyelash, like everything, like I just didn't, I just wanted to show up how I was. And so that also helped me in turn, just be more comfortable with like, I am how I am. I'm showing up how I am. But then another thing that I've made a rule, I remember making this rule for myself in college too. I was like, I'm not gonna sit and nitpick my photos. So when I would take photos with friends, they'd be like, do you wanna check it? I'm like, no, looks great, I'm sure it's great. I'm, you captured how I looked in that moment and I'm content with that. And that's a really, that's a rule I still have. Like, because I don't know, you can just sit there and just scrutinize and scrutinize yourself. - Yeah. - And I remember something that Sadie Robertson said, she was like talking about how, like, the difference between, like, she was talking about, I think she was talking about someone that she is friends with. That is like, a lot of people can like walk into a space and you're like, think about like, me, me, me. - Yeah. - But she was like, I wanna change my mindset to you, you, you. And so that's a really good way, like, to get your focus off of yourself. I think in this day and age, it's almost easier than ever to just like, think about yourself so much. - Yeah. - Look in the mirror, you're taking selfies all the time. Like, it's just really easy to just, just dwell on your own physical appearance and how you're being perceived by others. But then you can really tell the difference when you're around someone that's like, oh, I just wanna, I'm here to just like, know more about you, prop you up. And yeah, I think they're correlated, the two things. - Totally. I think that sparks a huge thing to think about at a point. Like, I think there was a shift for me, especially when I had my clothing store, I was taking hundreds of pictures of myself a week with try-on products, all these things. And I would become obsessed with like, oh, I have to get the perfect shot. And then taking tons of pictures, going through and looking, oh, did I get it? Does it look the most flattering? Is it good? Going back and reposing? And it became this like, obsessive thing. But then later it turned into a comparison of myself to myself, more so than myself to others. And that became my biggest struggle was comparing myself, oh, a year ago, I looked way better in this and that than I do now, like, oh, I must have gained this or that. Like, it became this obsessive thing where I had so much footage and obsessive thoughts about myself to myself and this fear of my body changing in different ways, that it became unhealthy, I would say. - Yeah, I totally feel that. Like, comparing myself to myself was definitely way harder than anyone I compared myself to online. - Yes. - And even I remember a time, like, I think I was postpartum for the second time. And Matt was, like, looking at pictures of me. And I was like, don't look at that. - We're not allowed. - I said, you're not, and I was surprised. I actually felt jealous of my husband looking at pictures of me from, like, a couple of years ago. - Yeah. - I was like, don't, he's like, what? It's you, like, that this is you. Like, I, and I'm like, no, I don't, I said, I certainly don't want to see that. And I also don't really want you looking at that. - Yeah. - And I just realized I was like, that's weird. Like, I need to really figure out what's going on here, because that is not normal. - I feel like the second pregnancy, I felt a little, I struggled a little bit more with my thought while I found my body image and I did the first time with CJ. And there was a day, I have to simply remember this. I lay in my bed and I just looked through all these old pictures of myself. And I was like, I was so, I looked so good. Why did I ever complain about this or that? Like, I should just be content and happy. And I'm like, so pregnant, you know? And I'm like, why did I do that? That's such a good doom's thought. And it's just, it's not true, you know? It's like your body's just in a different season, which is a gift in a blessing. And also, it's just life. Like, we're gonna fluctuate. We're gonna go through ups and downs. They're gonna be seasons for pregnancy. They're gonna be seasons for, you know, feeling and looking your best. Like, it's just, there's all the time in a place. And so, yeah, when you're in a season where maybe it's not, you know, I'm not walking a runway in my mind, you know? Like, it's okay. Like, I shouldn't be doing that and torturing myself. - Should we give a little history on our relationship with? - Yeah, I think that may really beneficial. - Yeah, I feel like, I was always very athletic. I played volleyball, obviously. And then in college was the first time that I, and I know Addy, this is kind of similar for you too. So you can talk on this in a bit. But, yeah, it was the first time that I had to learn how to cook my own food. The first time that I had to learn, what I enjoyed for exercise and moving my body. And I think when I didn't know how to lift weights and do these things, I was like, well, I'm just gonna run and I'm going to count my calories and I'm just gonna get as thin as possible. I never felt content in my athletic body at the time. I really wanted to be really, really skinny. - This is when you were in college. - Yeah, and so I just remember I downloaded the My Fitness Pal app and I started tracking for the first time and it became this game in my mind where I don't think, I'm sure if I talked to someone there, probably like, yeah, this isn't eating disorder. I've never been diagnosed that. So I'm gonna say it was pretty disorder eating. But I would try to eat like 12 to 1300 calories and I would go run miles and like just try, it became like a game in my head. Like I'm going to try to eat as little calories as possible. And I remember talking to my roommates at the time and telling them, hey, I actually feel like my thoughts around this are not healthy. And so can you guys check in with me on it? And they did, which I was really grateful for. I was gonna view to even be able to say that to them and like notice that in yourself. - Well, I lost a significant amount of weight. And then I think in my head I was like, oh, wait, this might not be like going down a good path. And I kind of struggled with that back and forth for a couple of years actually. And it wasn't until I got married to Caleb that I was like, okay, I'm done with the tracking thing and I felt a little bit more freedom with it. But do you think that was? - I think just sharing my life with him, like I was gonna eat more foods with him. Like you're going out and getting ice cream at night, having fun and going out late night and getting food together. And it was the worst time we lived together. So I feel like it wasn't like just me in my house, like being really diligent about, I'm only gonna eat half a candy bar and then go to bed. You know what I mean or whatever. Like I wasn't counting everything. I was just having a little bit more fun and I felt more freedom. But I did realize I listened to a YouTube video of this girl that was talking about intuitive eating. And I was like, yeah, that's me, I intuitively eat. And then she's talking about she's like, you can't be an intuitive eater if you're not eating all day and then you have no self control and you're binging your food at night. And it was like this liable moment where I was like, wow, that's really what I'm doing. I would eat like really small meals during the day. And then at night, I just could not control myself. I was so hungry and ravenous. And I'd be like frustrated that I couldn't stop eating. And that was kind of it's like liable moment where I was like, wow, I really have to figure out what I'm doing because I'm just not healthy mentally around this. And it started like this long journey of where I totally stopped counting. I challenged myself to eat whatever I wanted to eat and when I wanted to eat it. And kind of started going through those motions. And I helped a lot. I was like, I need to stop with the food rules. I could have butter. Like some of those things, I just started challenging all those thoughts that came into my head. And that took like two years. I felt like of me like challenging myself, which took me to around like 25, 26. And then I got pregnant. So yeah, I feel like that was leading up my young adult 20s. And then when I got pregnant, obviously the first time in my life that I felt physically and capable of something. And before I just ran a lot, well, after I was like, I never want to feel weak. I never want to feel, I never want my body to fail me again. And it kind of set off this different animal in me where it's like, no, no, no, I want to feel my body. I want to be strong as I possibly can. I never want my body to have a limitation because I didn't take care of it. And so then it kind of set me on this trajectory where I feel like I'm at now where it's like, yeah, there are seasons. Obviously like I just had a baby. There are seasons where I actively do want to lose weight. But it's not how I was before where it's like, I'm starving myself. It's like how much kind of, how much can I eat to make myself feel the best and be the most energized and fueled to build muscle and do all this. It's just like a totally different mindset now than I feel like I had before. And I feel like I've experienced both where you have experienced the life of starting myself to try to reach what I want. And then also of having that my body is so optimized and feels so healthy and so good. And so I feel like there's a difference in goals there. - Totally. - Yeah. - Yeah. - So I feel really happy with where I'm at. Obviously day to day. Sometimes I still struggle. But yeah, I feel like overall we've moved into a positive direction. - Mm-hmm. - No, totally. - I feel like something, sorry to keep talking and talking to someone. - No, it's all good. - I think sometimes I get online and I see women, you know, go through these seasons of like up and down or even just if, I think in their 20s, like our bodies just change a lot. As we go from our child bodies to our womenly bodies, let me go through pregnancy and those bodies. And I think sometimes I look online and I'm like, "Oh wow, they lost weight so fast." Or they did this and that. I think in my head, I just assumed no one's eating. And I don't want people to assume that about me or us. Like I feel like I want people to talk about what they do to be healthy, you know? So that there's not confusion or like this temptation to just starve yourself. - Do you know what I mean? - Totally. - Yeah. That's all I really have to say about that. - Addy, you were also a college athlete. How did that shape your experience with body image? - I feel like it didn't really affect me.
me too much while I was in it. It was afterwards after I stopped being required to work out and be active is when it really hit me because I'm like trying to think I didn't really struggle with it while I was doing it. Even though there are a lot of beauty standards, especially and I was on a dance team. I competed on stage. I competed in front of thousands of people like and performed in front of football stadiums and basketball stadiums. Like there's a level of being put on for those but I never really felt the pressure of that. It's when I stopped and then COVID happened. So it was all in one and I didn't know I gained 15 pounds and I had no idea how that happened because I just wasn't working out. I just didn't know how to regulate my own body at that point. Once I realized that, I still couldn't get motivated to do it every single day and make it a habit and make it something that I love. I'm not really sure when that switched into it being something that I really, really enjoyed and had a dedication to it. What I actually did because you said you had your friends to keep you accountable. You were like, call me out on it. If you see something happening, I did something. I made a private Snapchat story. I posted I was going to do this and I only added girls who said they wanted to be on it to document my journey of going through a fitness journey and losing weight but I didn't want it to be open to the world. I didn't want to post it anywhere else and so I would kind of just talk on there and explain my workouts and just so I had a level of accountability to myself. It was kind of a fun thing to do to talk about it and I was like, "Oh, I posted on here that I'm going to work out in the morning. I'd better go and do it." You know, until there was a level of accountability there. I think that was on there. Might have been. It was fun and then I made a private Instagram at some point but it was, it was. Oh, that's what I thought. You were probably on that one but that was once I had gotten to that point. I have Snapchat. But I will say and when we were sitting here and you were talking, I remembered when my fitness journey started. It was actually new years. I started it on January 1st or whatever after your parents gifted us a trip to Hawaii to come visit you guys and I wanted to look good going to Hawaii so I was like, "I have three months to feel a little bit better about my body." Well, I'm going to go be in a swimsuit and be next to Abbie who's rips. Whatever motivates you, you know, but so there was a level of comparison to it being like, "I'm going to, I'm Abbie works out every single day. I'm going to be hanging out with her. I want to go do CrossFit. I want to do these things." So there was a healthy level there. It was a motivating factor but not like a comparison that like they're better than me necessarily. So I remember that being part of my journey and then when we were there, we did CrossFit and I felt good and then it started. We did hikes. I felt so good about myself and my body and it just led me on a journey of losing that weight which was really cool for me. But part of that journey too was I did calorie counting as well but I know that a lot of people that's not healthy for me. The way I looked at it, it was actually really freeing for me to be able to see what I was eating. I feel like a lot of the times I didn't know how much calories were in things and so I was eating a lot. We're thinking I wasn't eating a lot when actually the calories there were more and so I was actually using it as a way to learn learn about food and learn about how many calories are in everything and I never really restricted anything. I just counted it out. Nothing was bad. I counted it all. If I went and got ice cream, I put it on there and so then I could still learn about oh if I do go get ice cream how much is in it or I always left for room for dessert. It was just something I wanted to do and then when I turned 21 I was like I like to drink wine. I always left a little bit of calories at night for that and it was never super restrictive. I always had like 1800 calories a day. It wasn't down to really low when I was burning like 2000 so it was very small gaps which is not healthy for everyone but for me it wasn't it led to that journey but I think that's when it was hard of figuring out how to work out and have a healthy body when you just haven't had to try for it for your whole life because of effective. I feel like that's the yeah in our 20s it's like hey I can do the extremes and push my body to extreme to get to this place over here but it's just not sustainable. So yeah it's like how do you I think the goal is always like how do we find this that's really healthy and sustainable for our body and our mind and so like yeah for county calories like I think it's interesting after being pregnant I talked to a train at burn because I was like I need I need to navigate me how do I do this healthly like what are the macros I need to hit what are the calorie minimums I need like I need to go I need you to tell me and then I'm only gonna track for a month because I know that it can be unhealthy for me but coming out of a season where you're pregnant and you're like eating literally everything inside I'd have fourths of dinner you know because I was so hungry sometimes there were just habits I needed to break like I didn't it wasn't that I was still hungry at dinner it's just that I was so used to getting up four times to fill my plate again and so it's like I just don't my body doesn't need that anymore great at the time but so then I it was good for me to just track for like a little bit just to help with those habits but I had to do under the supervision of someone that was like gonna help me do it healthily yeah I think that's very important yeah and I'll say it took me eight months to lose that weight that I needed to and I got back to a point that was sustainable for that time in my life I'm no longer that weight yeah even before I had a baby I wasn't that weight because I got muscle I learned to eat more protein and fill my body and fill my muscles and so yeah it came to a point where you were no longer consumed by the thoughts like what I'm eating it just I don't do that story anymore like I stopped doing that I just go to the gym and I have fun and I enjoy it and so there's like there's a time where that will that will shift and then pregnancy and postpartum is a whole nother whole nother story but thank you to honey love for sponsoring this portion of today's episode I think I'm speaking for all the women out there when I say 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ties to like body image and there was some talk around it which it's like I feel like I don't know I understand there's a logistical thing regarding dance dance and like your physical size because there's you're doing lifts with partners you're doing you have costumes a certain amount of costumes I remember I like this is like drilled into my brain where it was like we had we would do the Nutcracker and it was like I have this many snowflakes large snowflakes costumes and I have this many large girls in the room right now and it was more girls in the room than there were costumes so she's like when there's cuts like I can't afford more costumes I understand that it's really a hard thing when especially when you're in high school like your body is going through so many changes you're already feeling uncomfortable about those changes and you're you're just haven't found an equilibrium yet yeah and that's a really hard thing to hear and um it just I remember a lot of the girls in my class quitting because of these conversations like body image related conversations and I also do remember I don't know how much we can say but I remember girls throwing up in the bathroom before dance yeah because of comments being made of like if we would eat jams
Sammy John's at dance, you would really be really cautious of like what you ate at the studio. Because it would be called out. - It would be called out. Or I was like, I can see your cheeseburgers through your leotard slate. And like crazy thing to say especially for me, like I was a big, I've always had a large appetite. And I think that I always ask myself, I'm like I wonder what I think there's multiple things of like why I didn't have the same effect on me as it did some other girls. I attribute a lot of this to the women in my life, like the older women, my mom, my grandma's, they were always like affirming to me and in my body. Like they were like praise. And it wasn't even like the conversation was about my body. It was really about like, oh my gosh, like you're an amazing dancer, you're so strong. There's a lot of conversations about like strength and stuff. And like it was just everything but the way I looked. Like it was like, we love watching you perform. We love how kind you are, like you're a great leader. Like they were just like, it was like never really, I don't remember a lot of conversations of like, oh you look so good, like your body looks so good in this. Like it wasn't the topic of conversation. - Right. - And also all of them modeled really healthy relationships with food from when I was in high school. I can't say the same right now. Love them to pieces. But I will say like, I always, like I never saw my mom, like we would go to ice cream, she would go to ice cream too. If we would, like whatever dinner we had, she would eat the same dinner too. She ate the same snacks as we ate. And I think that that was something that I didn't recognize as a kid but it meant a lot subconsciously. - Yeah, like you picked up on it and then you recognized that later on. - I was like, I can eat that too. Like there was never like, oh that's a bad food. This is a good food. - Right, right. - And so I think that shaped a lot too. And then also I just feel like those years in high school really identity forming for me. And I feel like I had so many people keeping me grounded and guiding me towards like what was, where my identity should and should be founded in. And so then I just didn't feel like I was as susceptible to the other voices that were telling me otherwise. I feel like I was more equipped to kind of discern like, okay, that's not true. That doesn't give, that doesn't, that's not where my value or my worth is found. - Right. - And like I think that just helped me. I was really rooted from a young age because of the amazing community and guidance I had. - Yeah. - But I definitely do remember that. And I remember when I first, so I've always wanted to work out ever since I stopped dancing just because I was like, okay, I like love the way I feel. Like when I'm dancing, like I would love the way I feel afterwards. I don't know that I remember for a while, I was like, okay, I'll just do zoom but, like 'cause I like love to dance. And then I was like, okay, once I started doing that and I was like, okay, there's other forms of fitness that make me feel the same way. And it's like more accessible and more people at my age. I feel like that was my thing for zoom. I was like, I'm always with like my mom's age friends. And so like at college, that's when I started getting into group fitness, my friends and I would work out together. Or like things like that. And then I just really, really enjoyed it. And it was purely for like the social aspect, which is funny 'cause it's the same today. Like I loved working out with my friends and I loved just being around people. I was a really cool way to meet people. And then I did love the way I felt afterwards. And I also felt this like mental sense of accomplishment. Like I was like, I just did that. And so I think just from the foundation of my journey with fitness at that point, it was, it had a really good foundation of like not being for a certain physique or for a certain number on the scale. And so I feel really grateful for that. And I also was in a relationship from the time that I was in high school. Like someone that was like always affirming me. And so that also helps too. Like I was never thinking I need to change this about myself and then someone will like me. Or I need to change this because this person in my life doesn't like like this way. This looks like I always had Matt is the most affectionate person. And so like I think that also helped me too to like, I don't know, navigate that in a certain way. And then obviously you have to, I feel like pregnancy and postpartum uproot everything. - Right. - And then you have to really just like reset that foundation of like why, what is the purpose of our bodies? Is it so we can literally be like statues and like look as perfect as possible all this time? Or is there something more to that? And I think that working out when I was pregnant, I just kind of kept doing what I was doing. Working out as pregnant, I had this like epiphany moment where I was like, wait a minute, I'm working out. There's no way that I am going to lose weight by doing this. They're, I'm just going to keep gaining. There's no way I'm really going to gain muscle while I'm pregnant. I don't, I feel like that's a losing, really lived anything. - That's a losing battle. And that's when I was like, man, I really just genuinely love doing this. - Yeah, it's just fun. - And I feel like I'm taking care of myself. And health is really, health is important to me. And so I also like the way that it helped me eat more food. - Yeah. - I was like, well, I loved, which I will say on days I don't work out. I don't eat as much. And I think that's because I am less hungry. And also because I have it in my head, like, I'm like, okay, I don't need to. I've never counted or tracked literally anything, not even to one day. Just because I know my personality and I feel like, I don't know, I feel like I might get obsessed with that. And so I was like, I'm not saying never say never, but at this point in my life, I'm like, I just don't, I don't even want to risk it. Like, it also feels like I have so many things on my mind. I'm like, I don't want to ever have another thing on my mind right now. - Yeah. - And so, yeah, we can talk more about pregnancy and postpartum. Because I feel like that is just one of those things where it's like, there's some really freeing aspects to it. - Yeah. - And then there's also some really, you can find yourself in some pits in those periods of time. - Yeah. - And you say, adding on our call, like postpartum looks in the mirror and it's like, I don't recognize myself all. Was that you that said that? - That was me, that was you. There are times when you, it's just so true. Like, when you're a postpartum, actually, you know, you're going through pregnancy, your body changes. It's all exciting and fun. But then you have your baby and you look in the mirror and you're like, I literally don't recognize my body. And I think it's really normal for women to then want to cling to wanting to feel something familiar again. And I think that's why a lot of women do, like start obsessing about their way and obsessing about what they look like. And like, I even look back at three months postpartum. I remember thinking, oh my gosh, it looks so old. Like, my face looks so weird and my skin looks bad in my hair. And it's like, really, I was just really low in estrogen. And that's going to come back, you know? And like, all that's going to come back. But I know girls that in those early months have gone and gotten work done and like stuff in their face and all this stuff. And it's like, because you're just so clinging to feel something familiar again with your body, I feel like I've definitely felt that time. So just like, gosh, I just want to like feel like myself again. I'm pretty and like a woman, you know, and feel like it's my own body again. And it just comes of the time. But yeah, it's a hard season for sure. I remember avoiding the mirror after showering every time for like, it was probably a week after having my first baby. I was like, I just not ready to see what that looks like. And then one, I think it was like seven days postpartum. I was like, I'm going to peak. And I remember just being like, I don't, I don't recognize my own body. Like, I don't know what I'm seeing in the mirror, but that, that I mean. And I wasn't like, I think it was just a really like, that's the part where I felt like the identity crisis moment. Like, I was like, I don't feel like myself in my brain already. Because I was aware of that. I was like, the things that one sounded fun don't sound fun. Like, I don't even know what I want. Like, I just felt so disoriented mentally and then to look in the mirror and to not recognize myself physically. I was like, it felt like I was like, everything changed through the twilight zone. I was like, what is happening? And that was, that was a really weird moment. I remember even just like touching. I mean, like, it says real. Is this real? Yeah, it just feels so, like, these stretch downs, like real. That's never going to happen. This thing would have come back together. It was a wild. But it does. I think that was the part of me that I was like, even this time, I was like, I don't think it's going to work again. Not only is it going to come back together, you know? And I did not come back together how it was before. You know, it's improved. I'm like, okay, just give it time. Be patient with your body. Those, actually for me, those first two months, postpartum, I'm like, I am sexy as heck. That big ol' belly has gone down. I can cover my whole belly with a shirt, you know what I mean? Like, I'm like, I am sexy. But then at like 12 weeks, when it's three months, I'm like, shoot. I still actually look like this. I'm like, I'm not sure I felt sexy. I'm like getting away from the labor farther away, but my body isn't changing. That's when I start to panic. I'm like, oh, it's not. Things aren't happening. Like I'm expecting them to. And I think that's where I started. I was like three to four months. Well, that was really hard for me within my body and into my thought life. And then I was just like, Abby, you just had a baby. I think I talked about this. I had to keep telling myself, you just had a baby. You just had a baby. Stop. It's not.
not about vanity, it's about function. And I just had to keep telling myself that. - Yeah, I'm honestly feel that way right now that I don't recognize my body because I'm 16 weeks pregnant. And I really haven't been looking at myself in the mirror. And so when I catch myself in the mirror, I'm like, because you don't feel the baby kick yet. I am out of the slumps of the first trimester. And I'm so distracted by Grille that I kind of forget. A lot's going on right now, I kind of forget. And then I look at the mirror and I'm like, whoa. Oh yeah, yeah. And so I just, we have a bathroom with that when the door's open and I'm in the kitchen, I can look and I can see myself. And I'm like, I don't, why is it look like that? Oh, there's a baby in there, it's really like, I've never felt that feeling of being like, whoa, I don't recognize it. But the other day I was like, oh, I see what people mean by that. - And I think so many people can relate to that. Even if it's not pregnancy and postpartum, like I just think our bodies changed so much. And our 20s and our 30s is the first time that we're like fully independent and responsible for ourselves and like making decisions for ourselves. I think a lot of people experience a lot of body changes. And so I'm sure a lot of people can relate to that feeling of just being like, wow, I just, I do, I've never looked like this before, I felt like this. And I think it's just, I think mostly we're talking about this to be transparent and honest. Like, hey, we have insecurities too, we have struggles too. This is not our goal is never to stay under insecure thoughts and in those patterns of bad thinking. I really try to take my thoughts captive. I'm like, what is true? What is honorable? What is right? What is just? And like, if they're not falling in these categories, then that thought is out. Like, is it true that I, how I feel? It's like, no, like, what is true? Like, I have a good heart, I have a good this. I'm strong, I'm strength, like, taking care of kids. I wanna have energy, you know, these things, this list of things is way more important than like physically what my body looks like. And so I think I actively have to think about those things a lot. And I think I have to evaluate myself. Like, am I putting too much importance on my looks? Am I putting too much importance on this, you know, and always reevaluating? And I think that's always gonna be like something that we're constantly going through in our lifetime. Or at least I will be, for sure, to keep things in check. So I think more so, I at least want to talk about this just because I think people don't talk about it because it is personal and it is, it can be, triggering to people and I think a lot of people, there's a lot of nuance to this discussion and topic. But I do think it's important to hear other people's thoughts on it and like, also just know that you're not alone sometimes in your heart thoughts or your mean thoughts yourself and all these things, yeah, we all experience it and go through it. But the goal is then how do we move out of that? I just think that the question I always ask myself is like, what do I want my life to look like? And what do I want my lifestyle to look like? And for me, that does include health and I want to be able to do hikes and I want to be able to play with my kids and ride bikes and I want to be able to run and like experience, do a twerking class with my friend. I want to be able to do these things. And I also want to be able to eat a candy salad on the 4th of July and eat pizza, have four parties in a row and eat whatever served at those parties and not think a second thought about it. And like, and I think that finding that, like if you're thinking of like the circle of like lifestyle and then how I want myself to like what I want to be able to like health wise, finding that center point, I don't feel as like thrown off by one day I'm not working out and traveling all day and we're eating chilies and pizza and having way too much caffeine and I didn't move. I got 1,000 steps in that day. Like I'm not worried about it because it's like we're always finding, we're always finding that like equilibrium point and something that really helped me around that with fitness is like reframing it to being like, okay, I need to do this many workouts, like this long, each every single week. It's like no, I just want to get movement in every single day if possible. And so that's just like, or like six days a week, I want to get movement in. And that just makes it so much more realistic for the life that I want to live totally. And the way I want to eat. And so yeah, I just, it's, it's one of those things where it's like as soon as you commit to this being like, I don't know, that's why I'm so afraid of regiment and routine. - Sure. - Because I also just know that, I don't know, why do I do this? Like I'm like, if I say I'm gonna do something, then I have to do it. And so I like never want to set anything strict like that because I was like, then it will become like, essentially an idol of mine. And I don't want that. I want the my main focus to be like, what kind of life I want to live. And how do I want to show up for everyone around me and for myself? And I also want to say, I don't think it's good to look in the mirror too much. - Yeah. - I just think it puts, it puts, it starts your brain thinking more on something that is just like not important. Like it is vain, it is vanity. I still want to dress in a way that is mostly flattering. I care about clothes. I really love clothes. - Yeah, that's so fun. - I want to wear things that flatter my body and I want to feel confident in what I'm wearing and how I look. But just staring in the mirror is not healthy and good. And so I think if that is a problem for you, then you can just, I've seen people put reminders on their mirrors, like about what is true about themselves. And I think that actually would make a lot of sense. - Totally. - 'Cause it can just deter your brain on a whole new path rather than like, I don't know, scrutinizing yourself. The times in my life that I'm most anxious is when my thoughts are just consumed of myself. It's not about what's going on around me. It's not about circumstance. The times I'm most anxious is when I can't stop thinking about myself, what do I look like? How do I sound? What are people thinking about me? What about this? What about that? That is so sick. It makes me sick. It makes me anxious. It makes me feel like this. And so I think I heard it in a sermon once, but the goal is not to think less of ourselves, it's just to think of ourselves less. You are the healthiest and the happiest when you're thinking about others. Totally. You're not thinking about yourself. And so that's always, sometimes when I have to catch myself, I'm like, I'll have to confess that to kill, but my thoughts are just so me obsessed right now. And when I share that, and then I'm actively trying to fight that, I feel so much better. Yeah. - I do wanna say, my body, pre-baby's and post-baby's looks very different. The best thing that ever happened to me was my traumatic birth was to you. Because that really was the shift in my head. That was like, I could not walk. I felt so much pain. Like for a month was struggling to move and feel normal in my body. That changed the game where I was like, I'm not running to get a thigh gap. I never wanna feel like I can't walk again. Like I just, and I feel so grateful every day when I go into the gym. I used to get so anxious with volleyball workouts. I'm like, oh my gosh, how hard is the conditioning today? Now I'm like, how hard is the conditioning today? Like it's a game. It's just like switched in my head. And I feel so grateful. I'm like, I can't believe I get to push my lungs to that capacity. It's so fun. I did that. It's such a different mindset that I don't think I would have necessarily had if I hadn't had a lot of pain after birth. (laughing) - There's nothing like pregnancy and post-partum though to want to do something hard with your body. Like I literally, after having a C-section, I wanted to do a spurt and I felt good enough to do it. And I talked to my doctor and I was cleared. So three months I did, and I got criticism for it. And I, but it's like, okay, because I didn't do it for that. I did it for myself and nothing felt better. Did I have an amazing time? No. Did I have to do some penalty burpees 'cause I couldn't do some of the obstacles. - Sure. - Sure. - Was it like the best thing? Like did I have like a certain high afterwards and did I think it was so fun? Yes, and I literally did it by myself. - Yeah. - Like I didn't do it to anyone. Who wants to do a spurt and don't know if ever, because I really want to do another one. - I think it was such an amazing thing to do because I was like, there was actually no competition this 'cause who's winning a spurt and at three months post C-section? - Yeah, yeah, we're not winning nothing. - We're not winning. I had a pump like right before and right afterwards. And it was like, let's be winning you down on that spurt right away. So I was like, ah, I will also say, I'm not competitive at all. So it was easy for me to do something and know that I'm not gonna place well at all. But that was like so fun. And I think that's just like, everyone's missing the point. Like it wasn't to prove to anyone else. Oh, I can do this. - It's not to put your body back. It's little to just challenge your brain. - To challenge myself and it was so fun. And I had a great time. - Yeah. - I feel like that's also with like the mental health side of it too of total. When I went to my six week checkup after delivering my baby, I was like, please tell me I can work out, please. I need to go move my body. I need to do that. It's so good for me, it's a health. I don't even care if you clear me to have sex. I just want to go work out. - I just need to move my body. - Please. - I need the adolfans. - So I feel like it's kind of shifted to that point where when I was first trying to I was working out to lose weight and then I fell in love with it. And then it's a mental health side of it to be in like, I need to move my body today. Because it is so good for my brain. And I'm such a better human. Even I can speak to Blake too. Like when he's working out like he is mentally so much better, especially I think if you struggle with depression or anxiety, I think it's really good for you. - Go work out. - Yeah. That's what at least we've experienced from our experience. - Totally, I think it's a confidence boost 'cause you kept to promise to yourself. You said, I'm gonna do something hard. And then you show up and you do it. And then you're telling yourself like, okay, I am a person that keeps promises to myself. Like I, I can be,
I can trust myself, I can do hard things. And I also want to model that for my children. Something else that moms get flack for is going to the gym when you have, when you're a stay-home mom or you have a good idea to. - I do, I don't know. - I do. - This girl's so vain, she's going to the gym every day, like where are your kids when you go to the gym? I'm like they're at the gym. - It's just stupid. - They go to the gym with me. And even if they didn't, like it would be totally fine. If I got someone to watch my kids for 45 minutes for me to do a workout, this is a lie. Like it is a lie that you can't take care of yourself as a mom, and that there's not also benefits for your children seeing you keep a promise to yourself and also take care of your body, take prioritize your health. And they think it's really cool too, and they want to work out too. And it's just one of those things where it's like, I never want them to view this as a trade-off of like, I did this, so now I have to do this workout, or this is something we do every single day. It's non-negotiable, and it's something that's fun. We look forward to it, and what a gift it is to be able to move our bodies in this way, and to show it for ourselves, and to afford a membership, and like just viewing it, just reshaping that from the very beginning, and it's like, all of this, we're grateful that we get to do it. And it's not something that we're like punishing ourselves. - No, you don't have to do it. - We don't do it because we aids a candy salad. Like we do it because we get to. - We get to. - Yeah. - And also, man, I have some of my best workouts the day after I can't do salad. - It's so much good energy. - It's like it's in the car, baby. - Well, we're working out with each other. We're like, "We all ate that candy salad yesterday." - We all ate that candy salad yesterday. - And it's just really in that candy salad. - I brought home some strawberries. - Me too. - I haven't eaten it every day. - I've stayed in some. - But that's a good conversation. - We'll continue this conversation about how we want to raise our kids and talk about food, and diet culture, and body image, and all that stuff, with our boys and girls on Patreon. - Yeah. - And we are back and ready to hear from you guys. 'Cause we have talked enough. - We've been doing it. - Let's do ask Abbie's and listen to our voice mails. - Ask, ask, ask, Abbie. - Hey, Abbie, Abbie, and Abbie. I was wondering, what is your favorite type of workout class? Like, do you guys like CrossFit, do you like Claudio's yoga? And then also, what is the type of workout class that you would like to try that you maybe haven't tried before? Love the podcast and listening to some of the beginning. And yeah, so thankful for you guys. Bye. - Bye. - Nice to meet you. Thanks so much for being here. What do you guys say? - We all do burn. - Yeah. - What's your favorite type of burn workout? - I like MetCon. - I love athletic conditioning and MetCon. I like the conditioning days. - I have the conditioning days. - I know. - I know. - Conditioning days, I feel like, when no one's there. - But MetCon is when there's weights too. - I like MetCon. - Yeah. - I would say MetCon when I'm wanting conditioning, which I actually like conditioning for when I'm pregnant. - Don't know why. - Yeah, strength is really bad when you're pregnant. - Yeah. - And then arm gains. - The upper body is always my favorite. - Uh huh. I just always love cardio. I always have. I mean, I ran for a long time. I love to run and even in volleyball, a lot of those workouts were cardio-based, plyo, athletic conditioning type workouts. So I feel like it's just what I've been used to and I've always enjoyed it. I did yoga for a long time. I actually, when I used to work at Little Lemon, I don't know if I've ever talked about that. And they give you a free stipend each month to go to join a gym. You have to join a community fitness class. - And I join wearing Lulu around. - I'm not wearing a body Lulu. - Yeah. - It's not fun. - Um, partly why I got the job there. (laughing) Ah, and I joined a yoga studio. And, yeah, it was like nice. I don't think it, it wasn't good for me to be my only form of exercise. I like to get my heart rate up. It was hot yoga. But yeah, I needed something a little bit more energetic. - I did CrossFit for a year. And I liked it for that year, but I think I only did it because it was really the only option there. I wouldn't like seek it out if I had a plethora of options. Just because it was like, I didn't need to kill myself every time. And I feel like the pressure and CrossFit is to always like max out PR. Like do something crazy. Like people got seriously injured at our gym. - I did some a break their neck doing headstand. - Broke their back doing handstand push-ups. - Our headstand push-ups, what do they? - Handstand push-ups. - Our headstand push-ups doesn't make sense. - Well, you are going from your head. - Like pushing up, and there were a lot of injuries. But it was a really cool opportunity to like push myself to do new things that I would have never tried before. And I do think they did it in a relatively safe space to try those things. I wouldn't do it after becoming a mom. Like I might as well. But fun workout class that I wouldn't do is that like bungee. - That's what I was going to say. - That wasn't it. - I think it was so fun to do it together with our friends like the bungee class. - It was really so fun. - Fun ones too that we, that I have gotten to try are, like obviously what do they call it? - Turn up. - Turn up. - The Torque Dance class. - That is so fun. - It's a great calorie burner as well. - Oh my gosh. - I was in a cramp. - I get cramps in that class. - I did an aerial silks class. I was really, really fun. And I've always wanted to do that. I would do it again. - I did silks growing up. So I think it'd be really fun to go back there. - That is cool. - You did silks growing up. - At my dance studio they had silks. - What? - Yeah. - That's a fun fact, Addy. - It's crazy. - Yeah. - Did you know I pulled voltage too? - No. - Did you have that? - I knew that. - That's actually a little bit. - She's got a lot of skills. - Oh that's cool. - That's kind of scary. - Do you think you're hype? - Yeah, that's fun, that's good. - Yeah, that's fun. - I just like group fitness. I want someone to tell me what to do. I don't want to think about it. I don't know what to do on my own. - The girl who does turn up, no she works at lifetime and she's, she's going to be coming out with a like a step. Like dance class. - And I think it's fun to go to step. - Step is fun. - Step is fun. And also, have you done the way to drumstick class? - I've never heard of such a thing. - Pound, it's called pound. (laughing) - You did this? - Yes, you guys, I've done like so many, I did kickboxing for a while. - I have a crippling one. - K-boxing is really fun. - Wait, have you guys ever seen those videos of people doing the trampoline classes? - They're like little lines though. - They're all close together. - Yeah, but it's hard. - It's so hard. - You really think so? - I don't think I have to do that. - I think you would get a cramp. - Oh, okay. - You know what I really want to get into? Seriously, I wanted to do trail running. - I know. - Sorry, probably do that one by yourself. - I was going to join a trail running club here when we first moved here. But then I got pregnant and I said, it's really not safe to run on like jacket rocks when I'm pregnant, so. - Okay, let's do the next question. - It has to do with night and you need a headlamp. And that just seems intense. - Hey, this is Mallory. - So I have in logs that live out of state and they want to come stay with us for 10 days. How do I tell them that that's a little bit too long? Thanks, bye. - The gas, it's your husband's job. - That's your husband's job. The gas by gust. - I mean, anybody coming to stay your house for 10 days is insane. That's a way too long to a time to stay at someone's house for anybody. For any, don't you think? - My parents lived with me for two and a half years. - Oh, sorry, you're right. - I'm living with you as different. - You've been visiting. - Totally. - I think. - Yeah, I agree with you. I think some people I know have done part of the time. They're like, you're more than welcome to stay for three nights, but the rest of it, I'm sorry we can't accommodate you. - Yeah. - I don't know how you actually say that. - I think your husband needs to say, you don't never need to communicate that to your in-laws, that they're not welcome to stay that long. That's a bad message from you. That's 100% of the husband message. - I will say, even at this point in my life, anytime there's like a no to your, my in-laws, I'm like, so, like, can you call your mom? - But yeah, I said, yeah. - Well, you call your grandma and tell her, yeah. - It's your job to talk to your parents. They're a job to talk to there. And it's always their job to take, your job to take that spouse's side first. - I think you could be like, hey, half the time if you guys want to stay here, that's perfect. And then the other five days, here are some hotels close by. (laughing) I honestly don't know. I think usually, like, you could be honest. - I mean, she's a lot to host. - Yeah, she'd be like, that's a long time. Like, I think we might get under each other's skin. It'd be better if we broke it up. - Yeah. - Hi Abby, Abby, and Abby. My name's Megan, and I'm from the Midwest, specifically small Thomas Erie. It's officially summer here. And it made me wonder what Midwestern summer deserve, do you love, or look forward to the most when you're visiting home. One of mine and my family's favorites is strawberry pretzel salad. - Thank you for saying that. - I was gonna say strawberry pretzel salad. Also custard. - It's nothing like a good old custard from the Midwest. - Yeah. - It's, they got the best ice cream. - Andies. - I can't think of a dessert that's like Midwest only. - Strawberry pretzel salad is so good. If you're not familiar, it's a pretzel, buttery pretzel crust with a layer of strawberry, jello. That's also mixed with, like, pineapple juice. Excuse me. And then a cool whip, right? Topping. - Oh, it's so good. - I know there's pineapple juice in it. - There is a mixed extra sweet. - Yeah. - Well, I call it Midwest because my mom makes it, and cheese in the Midwest is, we call it chocolate lasagna. It's like crumpled up cookie or not cookies. Oreos with, like, cream cheese is the bottom layer. The layer of cool whip and then a layer of pudding and then another layer of cool whip on top. And then you put it in the fridge and it hardens and it's so good. - My mom always made blueberry buckle, but, like, a really easy version. That was basically just, like, yellow cake mix on top of, like, blue, wild blueberry. - Like a dump cake. - It's really good. - It's like a dump cake. - Yeah. I mean, I'll never be, you can't beat a glue butter cake. I'm sorry, but glue butter cake is so good. Also, I was thinking more about the last voicemail. And I think what your husband has to say is when they say 10 days has to go verbally. Whoa, 10 days. Okay, well, let's think about that.
And then their head, they're gonna be like, "Oh, it's 10 days too much, it's subtle cues." That's my advice. (laughs) She's just sitting on that. That's a good idea. - That's a good idea. - I think it's all you were spying. Whoa, 10 days, okay, well. Hmm, I think if you have kids, you can only play them on the kids. - I just think you can answer the phone like that. Whoa, would you guys say 10 days? Oh man, okay. (laughs) That thing that's hard about that too is like, especially if you're stay at home, mom. - You have to entertain during the day. - Yeah, you're like, "Hey." - You're right. - You need to occupy yourself for a little bit. - I think, if you, okay, this is, we're just gonna tell you about this. Something that we got to the point of when Caleb and I first moved here, we had so many visitors come out and visit, which was really fun. But it got really expensive and hard to host people when we had to work during the week and people would stay from like a Thursday to a Tuesday, you know? We just started telling people like, "Hey, during the weekend, we're down and hang out the whole time, but hey, during the week, we're gonna do our own thing." And like, we're gonna do our schedule. We're gonna go to work. We're gonna have our routine. So like, on the weekends, we're down a clown and in the evenings, we're down and hang, but during the day, we're gonna do our own thing. So it also kind of helped with the, not feeling like you have to host for so long. So that could also be an option. Like, maybe let him stay. But it's like, "Hey, we'll hang out at night and during the weekends, but during the day, we're gonna do our normal routine." And you guys can go explore. - Yeah. - We'll give you recommendations. - Okay, got it. - If you wanna call in as well, we'll put the number in the description, but I'm also gonna recite it for you right now, in case you have a pen and paper ready. Get that back. (laughing) - 602-456-9690. And now it's time for always hungry. - Yes. - I'm doing the corn pasta salad with bacon and creamy pesto dressing. - How was I brought to the baby shower? - Glide. - It's kinda unique. Things, guys. Yeah, I feel like that recipe, I was like, this looks, I'd saved it on my pen just a long time ago. I didn't have an occasion to make it. And it's really summery and good. I think the key is to use corn on the cob for the recipe and like shave it. And it doesn't really take that much extra time and I feel like it makes a lot, yeah, me too. But the, it's an interesting combination. It's like this, is it orcetti pasta? - That's what I was gonna say, that orc-- - Orcetti. - Orcetti? - I feel like it's got your-- - Is it the only one that was in the U.S.P? - Is it the same one? - Yeah, it's like a flat shell. - Because I was like, wait, she reused it because I still have half a thing of pasta. I'm like, that's a good one. - I first sighted by a new bag. - I couldn't give it yourself. - Now I have to have that. - It's like a flat shell, it's like a, it's good. - Yeah, it's a good shell, got pesto, got bacon, got corn. - Oh, it was a great flavor. - It was like a smoky flavor. - What was in it? - Bacon. - That was the, the seasoning. - Pesto. - Really? So good, that was an expecting pesto. I was almost thinking like a chili, no? Okay, well, I don't remember it, right? - There were a lot of pesto. - I did eat a lot of that, though. Mine's also my corn salsa salad. - Oh wow, we weren't born. - The one that I brought to the fourth of July party, and then I also made it yesterday, and I'm just were eating it throughout the week. As like a side, it's really just packed of chopped veggies, which is always good, and it's got cilantro in it, so if you don't like cilantro. - There's cilantro in mine too. - Yeah, the dressing on it was really good. It's like a lemon, or a lime, olive oil, the jaundressing, and it's just really good with the chip. Great side, great on top of things. I hate so much of it. - Corn chip. - And everyone asked for the recipe. - I did, you sent it to me on accident, and I was like, no, I actually made the recipe. - I did, it did, it did. - It was a good easy key. - Yeah, it's really good, and really, it's like the perfect summer recipe. - Mm-hmm. - Love it. That's fine. I actually have a lot of new recipes that I'm gonna share throughout the next couple weeks. I've been so adventurous lately. Guys, it's my third week of doing cooking. - What are you doing? - I'm doing cooking. I'm ordering groceries, I have recipes, and then I'm ordering my groceries, and then I'm doing it. - What were you doing before? (clapping) - Buying chicken, potatoes, and rice, and hoping some meals came together. (laughing) - And then Blake and I would find out if it was gonna make dinner. - Oh yeah. - And so, I've just been like, I get to mostly hang out for a long day, so then when Blake gets home, she can hang out for real, and I'll cook, and sometimes read my book, or put on Love Island. - Yeah, perfect. - Perfect time. - Love that kitchen. - It's gonna be a bummer when Brielle is aware of Love Island, and you have to watch it in front of her. - Yeah, I can't watch anything now. - Yeah. - You know, yeah, I used to watch the shows, and I went to watch Wild Cook, and I put a headphone in, but then T.J., would you be able to see my computer screen? - Well, when the kids go to bed. 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