The Trio: MAGA Influencers Are Running for Cover After Talarico Smear Collapses

You got the trio, you got the trio. All right, hey everyone, it's me, Sam Stein. That's Tim Miller, that's Will Summer, it's the trio. We're back in effect, by the way. We will be doing a version of this in a couple of days, live, on stage, in Columbia, which leads me to another thing. We only have a few tickets left for Atlanta. October 20th, Atlanta, step up. We're going to fill that stadium. If it's last thing I do, stadium, stadium, theater. We're going to fill that theater. The last thing I do, buy your tickets. October 20th, at the Eastern. I'm going to start by pouring one out for Pete Hegseth. I know this isn't in our show notes. But they're canceling a live stream of this execution. I know Pete was getting real hot for it. Probably had a big night set aside for it. You know, it's like a rata cuff for him. I think Trump felt like the tiger mauling to be posted. It's going to cover the sort of blood loss that the base has. Yeah, but that's the base. Pete has his own blood loss. And I feel like, you know, you think he's going to watch us alone now? You think there's just a live streamer for Pete? Probably. I mean, he's not killing any Iranians. Yeah, Pete probably had like a whole night set aside for it. It was going to order some take out. Had a nice little ocean right there for him. Anyways, let's get to the James Telerico saga. So we're on like day six, five, six of this follow. If people don't remember, James Telerico did not go to a mental hospital in Ohio, but the right wing mag internet said he did. It imploded dramatically when the hospital denied it. Telerico denied it in the New York Times produced footage from Telerico's home security camp footage, showing that he was there the entire time. Will, can you give us the blast radius here? What's going on? Yeah, look, the influencers are running for cover. As you said, this was a scheme that kind of came together. That was revealed on Sunday where this guy named Ryan Amacher, who was a very kind of like CT, a CD to your influencer called the mental hospital lied about his identity, whatever kind of cajoled one employee to finally saying, I don't know, I guess he got discharged. And now that it's all fallen apart, we've got Ryan just today this morning here on Thursday. He put out. Ryan, like you, is how you say his name? It's like Ryan, but he spells it differently. Ryan, but well, well, Tim, I'm glad you asked. So I think his name, as far as I can tell, it was originally Ryan, R-Y-A-N. Then he appears to have gotten it legally changed to R-H-E-I-N. So this is the kind of character. This kind of a shout out to JD Vance has changed his name twice. Exactly. Well, look, when you're running schemes like this, you know, you got it so much, you got it, I got to move to a new town. I'm just going to, maybe he's going to change back. Yeah. So he put out a thing that essentially, he was almost active, like he was just a regular reporter who attracted a story. He was like, look, the lady told me he was ejected. The lady told me he was discharged. I guess she was wrong, but what can you do? Now, he leaves out the part where he faked his identity and all this stuff. It's sort of like I was thinking about it. If you went to a bank and robbed it and then said, look, yeah, I tried to withdraw some money. You know, I thought it was a normal thing to do. He just wants people to move on. And he's like, what's the big deal? Okay, like I was just doing a little illegal journalism and I got caught. And now I don't know why everybody's still talking about it so much. I did like that. He was like, I'm just quoting the source. Like, yeah, he told you or a family or cousin, you lied. What about Nick Sorter? Like, what's the other thing about Ryan? As he's posting a lot about how much he's carrying a gun. So he's, you know, just be aware. And he said, I didn't lie. I just repeatedly said a false thing. Yeah, Nick Sorter, he is running away from this thing. He's saying, you know, Ryan gave it to me. You know, it's not on me. I barely know this guy. Now, they were partying in Portland outside of the ice facility. They were hanging out there back in the day. But basically, he's, you know, the good news for Nick is, don't worry. In early November, he's going to be fetted at Mar-a-Lago at the James O'Keefe citizen journalist ball. So this was announced this week. So this hasn't hurt Nick's reputation a bit. Nick might consider why they're all doing new kind of personas, new names. So he might consider shaving that go-t because he looks awful. And so maybe like some new facial hair for him might be wise before the, before the ball. It's a very like Gorka-esque go-t. It's, I don't know why. It might look nice in like a five o'clock shadow type look. I remember when Sam, you know, we had kind of like vacation Sam. Nick's sort of should look into vacation Sam. It says New Look. Yeah, that was a brief, uh, uneventful, forgettable moment for me. The women loved it. Um, the, uh, Nick, the thing that's Nick, um, is, and we, this is kind of the sad part about there's being built up about it on Mondays. Just like, obviously, this is not going to hurt him. Right? Like, I, I, this, like, you know, I mean, I think that if, if you're trying to do one of these schemes, your main goal is to charm and Tarnas James-Tellerico. That feels to have backfired spectacularly. So that's good news. But like what, what I would want then is for then the person who tried the scheme to, to suffer, um, professionally. And, and I think that's probably too much to help for in Magalworld. So you think the next time he comes out and says, "I got some explosive recordings on Gavin Newsom and stand by the same thing happens all over again?" Yeah. You're probably right. I would add, Nick, you know, he's promised this, a new, a new video that would prove everything was real. And then he released it. And it was this woman at the blaze, Sarah Gonzalez, who's kind of part of this coterie, calling up the mental hospital after the original video came out and saying, "Hey, can I talk to someone about Tellerico?" And they're like, "No, we know what you're doing." And then the sort of the evidence is, "Well, it looks like they're covering something up." It did, it did spark what you said to him and made me think that James O'Keefe, I don't know if you guys saw this, has said he's got moles on multiple campaigns. Did you see this one, Will? And he's going to release it in due time. I just wonder, like, take your time, James early before it started. It's like strategically going to release this stuff. But I do wonder, right? Like, are people going to take this shit seriously? How many times do we have to take an O'Keefe staying on version seriously? Have either you ever been to one of James O'Keefe's dance performances? No, I have. And I'd love to go. You're really just now? No, we did dance before. I knew we did musical theater. Oh, yeah, no, he does a lot of choreographed dance now. Do we have video of that? Oh, yeah, there's a video. I posted a video on Instagram a couple of years ago. He's got a professional dance choreographer on his team. And like, you know, naturally, he gives some researchers, PR person, accountant, staff assistant, dance choreographer. Amazing. Yeah, he dresses in a bulletproof vest and dances to the print song controversy. Why? Because he loves controversy. Because he's a comfortable person. I was the target of one of his earliest things. You knew this, right? Of course, that's what I came to work for you. I was like, this guy does it dirty. I don't think, Sam, I don't know if I knew this. You didn't know that? I wasn't even, I wasn't on camera. So what happened was my recollection is that some organization, some like liberal economics organization, had been, you know, stung by an O'Keefe person. And to get ahead of it, they, you know, told me about it and revealed like, you know, what O'Keefe was trying to do. And I wrote a piece up on it. And O'Keefe was not happy that I did that because I kind of got ahead of his planned rollout. And so what did James O'Keefe do? Is he, he sent one of his little minions to Columbia Journalism School to serve, tactiously, record my professor there. And so this, a girl went into my professor's office and she's like, you know, I'm thinking of a plan, a journalism school, really kind of curious what you think. You had Sam Stein as a student, right? Like, what, how was that? And like, she was recording the whole thing. And my professor, who I love, great guy, was just like, yeah, Sam, you know, Sam's just like, you know, swashbuckling reporter. He likes to get his sources drunk and he's great at it. And that was the big reveal. Like, I like to lubricate my sources with alcohol. And it's like, okay, I do remember this now. I do remember this now. The lubricating part is what really do you remember? We found it. The video I posted of James O'Keefe's dance routine. This was, this was at a late night cocktail hour during an America Fest years past. Let's give that a watch. It's the same move over and over. He does, it does, he does expand. Yeah, he does expand. I didn't want to see him like I was too big of a fan. So, you know, I just kind of did a 15 second bite. I kind of want to document that it happened. But no, there was more. There's some elaborate. I think we got pulled in on a, in a bathtub or something on wheels. What? Yeah. It's better than Benny Johnson's dance. Oh, yeah, definitely. The Benny. I got, I'm going to debut the Benny next time I'm at a wedding. Did it do? All right. Any other things we need to talk about with James Telleriko or Nah. I don't think so. No, well, just briefly, I would say that it's gotten to the point where this guy named Cynical Publius. People remember for being a secret Pentagon employee and conservative commentator. He said, I'm starting to think this was a honey trap. I think the Democrats set this up and they were the trap. The honey, well, the honey was laid by James Telleriko and the Lindor Center Mental Hospital. And then they, they lured in, I'm a girl and Nick Sortour and these boys got tricked and it all made everyone feel sorry for James Tallerico. And can you just talk a little bit about tickle, tickle tweets? I would hope that somebody being paid for by the Department of War would have a better understanding of how honey traps work. Sorry. Go ahead and tickle. Someone could say, "Hey, Ryan, you need to say your Tallerico's cousin." Yeah, just briefly, tickle, tickle tweets is a lady with a sorted backstory, frequently changes her identity. I guess now she's a right-wing influencer. And she was kind of a key player in this saga, kind of maybe convinced Ryan that Tallerico was in this mental hospital. What did she come from, though? She is like just a swamp creature from the right-wing internet. She's just someone who kind of bounces around. She is like, I guess in her tickle tweets, Rachel? Well, the tickle thing is a big deal because in her space, she was in a Twitter space, kind of this one where all these guys were melting down. And there were some journalists who was just like, I don't know, it doesn't seem like you have any evidence here. And she's like, no one, she's British. She's like, no one respects me because my name's tickle. (laughs) Tickle. Tickle was the fun word to say in a British accent. Tickle. Her Twitter name's tickle. Not her real name. Well, her real name is a subject of much controversy as well. Why? Well, because people kind of pulled up her criminal record or her, you know, what they claimed was her mug shot and she said, well, I'm not this lady. And the Jesse single, the reporter, was posting some stuff that claimed she was faking having cancer and stuff. So there's a lot going on with tickle. And ultimately, I don't think the Texas Senate race should hinge on her claims. That's probably bold declaration there, well, the, just the sheer number of random people that pop in, like these kind of delus characters, Ryan, tickle, like, why is it happening? Like, what is going on here? Do you have like a spreadsheet keeping track of these things? I've never heard of Ryan or tickle before. You know, this was what was like in some ways kind of the sad thing. We were talking about how Nick's going to survive the fallout from this. But Ryan, like a lot of times these guys will get kind of like a much lower tier fall guy. And so they get Ryan and it's sort of like, oh, Ryan's going to make his name. He's going to, you know, commit some felonies maybe. And then then Nick just goes, hey, thanks, kid, you know, deal with when South. Best of luck. All right. Well, best of luck to them, I guess. This message is sponsored by Casper. So you know, there are certain things in life that are worth investing in in a good night's sleep. Well, that's definitely one of them. You cannot beat a good night's sleep. I know because I don't get many of them. This podcast is sponsored by Casper. Casper makes reliable high quality mattresses designed to deliver consistent, comfortable sleep night after night and out of 99 mattresses consumer reports named Casper's the one mattress. It's top rated all foam mattress of 2026. That's a pretty damn big endorsement. If you've been talking about upgrading your bed now is the time. Casper's friends and family sale means you can save up to 20% on a mattress that you deserve. 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Well, the only place that I get information about Ben Shapiro's movies is the false flag newsletter. Yes. We're a lot of information now. Yeah. I wasn't aware that Rob Lowe was part of this. He's got a bang and cast here. Yeah. Obviously, where people may be familiar with Ben Shapiro's movies, obviously, the one we've been talking about a lot here is it's pawn shop, the pro ice movie. But he has another one. And this one is interesting because it was written by Ben Shapiro. And it's called Confession. And it's set in kind of the Stalinist show trials era. It's 1938. And Rob Lowe is, I believe, a professor in Russia who's been called in by the NKVD and they're going to sweat him to make him confess and betray his priest. Now our actors are Rob Lowe, the interrogator, folks, it's James Franco. It's crazy. We've got Nick Dolti, Jennifer Jason Lee, I believe as Rob Lowe's wife, Dean Norris, people may remember Hank from Breaking Bad, Hank from Breaking Bad is doing this. Yeah, fuck all of these people. What? What? They need a paycheck. They need a fucking paycheck. Where's the money come? How much money must it's insane to me that they have this much money to do this? Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, admittedly, the set is one room in a chair. So, you know, in a table, there's a relative in James Franco's, but I really recommend folks watch the trailer because it just features like Rob Lowe, you know, he's getting hoes off by the NKVD and then James Franco comes in and he goes, "Hello, professor. What is the propaganda message of this one? Like what is the anti-communism with the Trumps pro-communist now?" Well, this is one I think is, I think this is why they were able to get more celebs in this one because like this is a more, you know, it's like, okay, I guess we're going to beat up on Stalin. It's not like, "Renee, good, deserve to die." I'm so fucking annoyed at Dean Norris. I know. I was shocked. I was shocked by the cast. I couldn't believe they got all these people. You know who I wasn't annoyed by, though? Danny Trejo's son can represent what's happened with that, will. Yeah. So Danny Trejo and Harvey Kytel are the big stars in pawn shop, the pro-ice movie we've written about or you know, I've done videos about that sort of reenacts the Renee Good shooting. And so that's not start sucking each other's dick's quite yet. That's not because I tell on pulp fiction. Sorry. I was like I was just explaining the past. So, so yeah. So Danny Treho's in it and I think a lot of his Hispanic fans have been upset and criticizing him online for being in this pro ice movie. He might imagine yes. Yes. And so his son came out on Instagram and said basically like my dad didn't know what this movie's deal was. He thought I believe Danny Treho is playing a pawn shop guard who's kind of like a key character, but not really directly involved with the ice stuff. And so he basically said my dad didn't know this the deal here and he can't you know, bail on this movie contractually at this point, but he was kind of tricked by the daily wire. You think Danny Treho doesn't have an agent who can handle this stuff for him at this point. That's not the idea. These people, I don't know anything about Hollywood, but I was soon they don't just, you know, you see the script right? You know, and you can see, you know, if I was an agent, I'd do something like this. Show me the script. And that'd be it. Yeah. His agent described it to him. This is according to Danny Treho's son. His agent described the film to Danny as a complicated story about a complicated time where everyone looks bad except you, the hardworking Mexican shop owner who just wants peace. Oh, yeah, he's a, and he jumped at the idea of playing the hardworking Mexican shop owner that just wants peace. I got to say, how low do you have to go tiny Ben Shapiro to try to trick Danny Treho? You know, American icon fooling him into being in your movie. You've now been kicked out of Montana. No, they were let back in. They got right back into Montana. Yeah. Because they threatened to sue the city. Yeah, they had a contract with the city. I think they probably Danny Treho should throw the game. Danny Treho contract with the city. Well, sure, but Danny Treho also has a contract. Danny, if you're listening, or what's Danny's son's name, let's follow his Instagram here, Gilbert. Gilbert, if you're, is Gilbert in this picture? Yeah, Gilbert looks kind of like a cool dude. It looks like Gilbert might be shirtless in his Instagram profile pic. Gilbert, if you're listening, tell your dad to throw it. Like start doing off the scenes and start randomly talking in foreign accents. Take, take Will's terrible British accent and apply it to this. Yeah. Took the wrong emphasis on the wrong salable of the script, you know, Danny, can we ever do that? Take a try not to do British accent this time. Come on, Danny. Yeah. Quick question. How old do you think Danny is? 69, nice. I look this up. So I'll bow out of it. He's 82. He got tricked. Harvick, I tell how old do you think he is? Harvick? Harvick? Harvick's got to be 78. Wow, you are way off. 87. She's. Wow. Harvick, 87. Yeah. That's, that's sort of one thing here. That's why I had a little trouble figuring out what role Danny Treho was supposed to play because his son in this movie is supposed to be like 20 or like 18. These things tend to happen, right? Sometimes I was like, Danny was a relatively young son, but the idea of like this 81 year old - That part's not explained in the script. - 82, whatever. All right, well, I'm not gonna go see that movie and I won't see Confessions either. I'm just fucking pissed at Roblo. And you expect this of James Franco. - Do you? - Yeah, I think so. - I guess. - Why would he put that thing? - I guess like, I don't know. I don't know what the current issue is in Hollywood and who's like the hot actor or not. But you would think James Franco could get better. - Not hot anymore. No, James is not anymore. He fell, he did have an issue in the me too there, right? Yeah. - You don't think so? - Yeah, the James Franco era is still on for sale. (laughing) - I like pineapple express. What can I say? It was a good movie. All right, let's move on to your false flag. So Will and I were talking about what to cover this week and Will came to me just pulling back the curtain a little bit here. He's like, you know, it's a little small thing. I can make it the top, the little section up top and we can just do that. And he described this story to me. And I thought it was a big deal. So I'm gonna describe it and then Will you can elaborate. But basically there's court documents that show that Kristinaum and Corey Lewandowski, whatever relationship they were in at the time at DHS, more or less fed directly incriminating false information. I should say not incriminating false information, to Laura Lumer, to smear a civil servant who was then subsequently fired and accused of shuffling money to house illegal immigrants. This struck me as a big deal. And maybe I'm wrong, but like directly working with Lumer to smear a civil servant seems big. - Yeah, so I mean, it's an interesting story, you know, we're always wondering what's all Laura Lumer up to and what's kind of the ulterior motive behind this? - Well, you can't just say really quick what Laura Lumer is not up to 'cause like seven people have sent me this. Some fake account on social media posted a picture that's obviously photoshopped of Laura Lumer hanging out with Lane Kiffin. - I saw him. - No, it's not real. It's just so many people. - Yeah, well, you would have been the 19th person and I'd kept being like, okay, boomers. Guys, this isn't a real fucking video or photo. - So the guy who posted it was not an actual else? - He's not an actual, as you coach, the fake, the whole count of charity in the bio. Says parody in the bio. - I'm glad I didn't send it to you. - Yeah, I had people challenging me on it. Like, well, which parts of parody? Like the picture of the bio is like both. (laughing) - Yeah. - Okay, we have enough problems in Baton Rouge right now without trying to get Laura Lumer involved in it. All right, I apologize for interrupting. - The fact that people thought it could be real, so. - No, it doesn't, no, it doesn't. This is what the fucking conspiracy theorists always do. - Yeah, the sad thing is we could believe it. You know, Tim, the amount of time of my life, I spend telling people that pictures of Laura Lumer are photoshopped is just like endless. People say, oh my gosh, look at her here. And I say, that's not real. I'm very familiar with her face. (laughing) In this case, we're always wondering how the sausage getting made. What's her ulterior motive? She's always sending these weird tweets. And in this case, it came out because there was this, the FEMA CFO in February, 2025, is a woman named Mary Cummins, civil servant, blameless, whatever. And then doge people freaked out 'cause they were like, oh no, we've been paying for these immigrants to stay in New York hotels and we weren't supposed to stop that 'cause of this executive order. And FEMA said it was fine and so she'd been paying it out. So a lot of this kind of these recriminations start and they fire this woman. And then Cory Lewandowski and Kristi Nome, this kind of comes out because this woman then sews the government and this judge's opinion came out this week. Basically, they directly went to Laura Lumer and they said, hey, we got some dirt on this lady. So Laura Lumer tweets, this woman went rogue. She was paying for all these millions of dollars to the immigrant hotel rooms, luxury hotels. And then that was all fake. And so as Sam said, I think it's just interesting that it got to the point where Cory Lewandowski and Kristi Nome were just like call up Lumer, just how to have her put it out there. - It is crazy. I mean, you're basically smearing someone and using this account to do it. And I guess for me, like the big picture is that it really shows how the guardrails have kind of completely fallen or just not there anymore where you don't need to sift stuff through a reputable outlet anymore, right? Like it used to be if you and Tim, you know this 'cause you're a flak, you'd have to go to like a, you'd have to go to a paper or like an actual news outlet and say, hey, I have this stuff. And that person would have some responsibility to actually get it right. And that's just not the case here. - Yeah, the other interesting side plot of this for me is that the new press secretary, Katie, was like one of, I don't know if in this particular case, but it was like one of Cory's minions at DHS and was like on team Cory and like executing these types of shenanigans and Trump, like Pixar, 'cause she's blonde to become press secretary over the objections of people internally. And like so now a bunch of people like, wait a minute, like we've had, like team Cory was out on the outs, like he got replaced by Mark Wayne Mullen. And so there were a bunch of people in DHS who were like trashing Cory and trashing Katie, the new press secretary. And now she's like their boss. - That's a good point. And it's not about the fact that she's the boss now. - I don't know how much time for Boston she has to do. When, you know, she spent a lot of time with her president, slash husband, and like working on reading. But. - A lot of people in my non-political life who've been fascinated by Katie Zakaria, the question always is, well, how long is she going to last? Right? Like that's, I got a million texts about this. Like, oh yeah, she'll be gone in this. - All that long. - And you made fun of me, you rolled your eyes in my Pete Higgs. I think she's, I don't think she's going anywhere. I mean, come on. Do you think she's just gonna get fired because what she didn't pass your bar exam? - I think that she'll just stop doing press briefings. - Yes, exactly. - And like her and Natalie and Trump will just fly around on the plane and hang out on the maxi pad and. - He doesn't care. He just wants to hang. Well, I'm sure he cares a little bit, I guess. But like, she's not gonna get fired. That'd be, I don't see it. Now, you can clip this and rub it in my face if she's gone tomorrow, but whatever. Okay, we do have other things to get to. But on the false flag, I would just add, Benny Johnson does play a role here. He also is a vector for a lot of this information. - Yeah. So a DHS spokesperson gave him, you know what I mean. - Could it have been Katie? - We don't know. We don't know. It's not clear. I mean, they were really, the lawyers here were really zooming in on Loomer. They were saying they were like, we get 15 questions to ask DHS. One of them is who told Loomer? And then I think they probably were really delighted when it was like Corey Lewandowski and Christy Noem did. - Loomer says she didn't know about this to you? - Well, I sent her the opinion and she said, I haven't heard about this and no one, 'cause I said they used you to smear this person. And she said, you know, no one uses Loomer. No one uses me, it uses me. She's been like the lone bag of voice defending Zelensky in this current saga with President Trump. And they're adamant that she's not on the payroll. They're adamant about it. And I don't have any opinions. And her. - Yeah, I mean, it's interesting. She said, again, I mean, you know, Politico had to think how she was on this payroll in Venice Way of her, you know, some oil interest regarding Venezuela. So it is just, it's hard to know exactly what's going on, but she insists she's doing it for the love of the game. - Okay, cool, good for her. All right, Tim, I'm gonna turn this over to you 'cause you really want to talk about Anthony Constantino. Our guy running in New York 21, that's at least the phonics, soon to be old district, is about as pro Trump as you can get cutting horrible, horrible AIFI'd rap songs about Trump saying that Trump owns him more or less along with Roger Stone. What are your thoughts on Anthony? Why did you want him to talk about it? - Yeah, our guy Brandon did a good report on this as well in the bulwark. I wanna talk about this because I find it surprising that this race isn't getting more attention. I don't understand it's just a house race, but like the Mike Lawler race, for example, it gets a ton more attention in this race 'cause people like consider that a swing district. I don't, I think in a wave here, Mike Lawler is bound. This race is upstate New York. It is, there've been multiple polls out recently showing it within the margin of error with both sides leading. Trump won at like 18 or something. At least if it's at least the Stefanix districts, there's a little interest to intrigue there having to be at least a Stefanix district. And it's like the Republicans are like this man, Anthony Constantina will be in Congress if he wins. I mean, he would be like among a very clownish Republican house conference. I mean, he would stand out. I can, a lot of ways he makes Lauren Bobert and MTG look pretty normal, like Harrison. I mean, dude, it is like a, it says Donald Trump and Roger Stone will own him. He was on the Roger Stone show recently. Roger Stone's convicted felon. He did a rap album, which we've talked discuss before, dedicated to Trump and Stone. He was a, he has an MMA business and is a fighter where he spent a lot of time in Mexico. He looks and sounds extremely weird. He wears like, he's like kind of like a Don King type figure. He sells a lot of stickers. He's a sticker salesman as well as made a lot of money. The stickers business on pro Andrew Tate stickers. And like, he just, I mean, it would be like having Trump's golf caddy in Congress. And I, he's just a full full on yes, sir, Mr. President, sir, whatever. And it's a pretty safe for a Republican seat. If he wins this time, he might be in there for a while. And I think that's it. it's fucking insane. Like the guy's insane. And I think that the Democrats should be putting more, you know, money and attention behind Blake gender being as a totally normal dairy farmer candidate. And so I don't know, the race has everything. I mean, it has the controversy, outrage, wrapping, you know, it's kind of like a down market. I don't even know what style of rap you'd call I'm like, so just to give you a sense of it. So yes, we have a dairy farmer, whatever. Can a dairy farmer produce a song called Trump with a lyric that goes, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump everywhere. They love Donald, Donald, Trump. No, you can't do that if you're making cars. Yeah. Who is the rapper that's like, we the best music? You know, is that DJ talent? Yeah, DJ talent. Like this guy is like a homeless man's version of DJ talent. Like, that's the style of music that he's putting forward. It's so much worse. It's so much worse. That's really insulting to DJ Khaled. Oh my god. Some of the other songs, well, we're the other songs. Oh, Art of the Deal. He has one song called Art of the Deal, which includes Stop the Steel Conspiracies Among its lyrics. Quote became president on the first try. It's the Art of the Deal. Man, my boy won it three times. We're at the best book of all time. It's poetic in a way. I don't know. Maybe I will vote for this guy. Yeah. He paid Roger Stone's consulting firm 265,000 dollars. Rodgers on one of the, Roger is on one of the tracks, by the way. That's like the cost for a verse, perhaps. Roger, please come on the album. He wants to put out a bill that will put Trump on a $250 billion. A new bill is Trump's face on it. That really leaves. He has a, he's a Mar-a-Laga member. I mean, he wants to give Trump the Nobel Peace Prize. I'm like, this is really this guy in Congress. This is the best. This is the best New York 21 condemned. That's all they have. It's a toss up race. So, you know, it's the finest. I'm just talking about it. Well, we're going to follow what we like this guy. A couple more. Ed Martin. He's, welcome to Substack. Ed Martin. Ed Martin has joined Substack, having left the Department of Justice, where he was the pardon attorney. He's starting a consulting group. And yeah, he put his email address right there for anyone who wants to enlist his services. So, I wanted to say, welcome to Substack Ed and feel free to come on the pod. I would take him. Yeah, I would too. I mean, I'd love to have him on Maga Monday. I mean, but at the same time, you know, it's interesting. He's kind of positioning himself here almost as like a PR consultant. He's like, I mean, it's very AI generated his website. But so it's hard to know how much he really believes in this. But if I were trying to hire Eagle Ed, I'd really only do it to try to get a pardon or maybe some other kind of Trump world scheme. So, so we'll see what he gets up to. I think that's what he's going for. He wants to just do a lot of parenines. Okay, last one, I want to put up this picture that Mike Collins post. So this, you guys know about these lines, right? So of course, of course, I just want to slide. The straight line means that you're the alpha. And if you're leaning, that means that you are the big. So these are the, this, this, this is an official Mike Collins account. They've got a picture of Mike Collins and John Ossoff at the debate. And Collins is, you know, strong, standing up like a statue. And Ossoff is in the submissive post. And so they put these lines on them, just so I thought there was an opportunity to bring it up. I don't think we talked about it since I've been at the board. But these are called the Rivalino lines. These come from sort of the pickup artist's manosphere. Often you do it with a guy in his girlfriend and the guy's leaning in. And so it sort of shows that she's the dominant party in the relationship. I just thought it was interesting that might that the Rivalino lines have made it all the way to the, the failing set of campaign of Mike Collins. What's what's the alternative here? You've never supposed to lean? It's just to walk around like, what am I supposed to do? I seem to, here's the other thing. Sometimes, look, there is, there's a hint of truth in the Rivalino line thing, which is, which you see sometimes in a photo. But like if you see celebrity photos often with somebody who's a fan of theirs, it's always, it's often like the person that's a big fan. It's like so exact, you know, you can just tell like who is the really excited party to be that you can tell about this sometimes in relationships, like who's touching more. The problem is like it doesn't extend to every situation, you know, and like here, Mike Collins looks like spooked, like Mike Collins is standing up straight because he just, you know, got, I mean, you guys are the straights. What's the word in boxing? You know, your bell rung. Like he just got his bell rung and he's got kind of stand in there. You know, it's not, he doesn't really, he doesn't look dominant, I wouldn't say, you know, I watch the base pen his entire time scripting little notes. But I don't really understand, like again, I can't just walk around straight all day. I mean, maybe that makes me a beta, but like, sometimes I'm going to lean forward. And like I can't, man, let's pick something up off the ground, would that be a mission of omega male behavior? Okay, just can't do anything. I've been walked around uptight. Anything else, boys or enough? No, I can't wait to see it tomorrow. I'm excited. Yeah, we're doing so we're going to Columbia tomorrow. I got the flight in the morning. We're going to be on stage. We're going to do a little trio of segment. Will's got a few things that he held back. So if you're in Columbia, if you have a ticket to the show, can't wait to see you get excited. And if you're in Atlanta and you like what you see, well, you have a few more days to buy tickets. So get on it. Bye, everybody. ♪ Central Park, too. You got the trio. You got the trio. ♪