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Kirk Cousins has seen the good, the bad and the ugly of all things in the NFL. He's had success. He's had failure. And I think for a rookie quarterback coming in with a lot of hype and a lot of attention, I think this will help him transition from that draft day all the way through training camp and eventually as the starter watching a veteran quarterback prepare and Kirk Cousins is just that a very, I think, effective veteran guy. I know the last couple of years have been underwhelming. He's an older quarterback. This is just kind of what happens to guys in the NFL. But I will say this. I think it's smart. I think it takes a lot of pressure off the kid. Andrew, what are your thoughts on the Kirk Cousins signing? And when's your best guess? If you were the coach of the Las Vegas Raiders, when you think we might see Fernando Mendoza make his debut? Well, if I was an odds maker, I would set the line around nine and a half because I do think that Kirk Cousins knows this offensive system spent three years with Clint Kubiac in Minnesota. So he does have the leg up and Kubiac has talked throughout this off season that we don't want to throw a rookie quarterback into the fire. So I think that as long as Kirk Cousins is playing somewhat well in this offense that he already knows and is familiar with behind improved offensive line, he has some solid weapons between Brock Barrow's action gentie. I do think that he can hold off Mendoza for a month or two. Again, we'll see what the schedule shakes up like. When do they have their buy weeks? So maybe that kind of also plays into when they want to get Mendoza. But I think we want definitely it's going to be Kirk Cousins unless there's some type of injury that happens. I agree. I think this is really good for his dynasty outlook that he is going to have some time to develop behind Kirk Cousins. So I think that the knee jerk reaction might be to move him down and rookie dynasty rankings. I think I think this is good for him. Even if he doesn't start, I don't care if he starts a week one. It doesn't matter. Again, read draft. Okay. It's different conversation. But I do think that this overall a good move and I am interested to know what the contract details are, which I know Debro has and his facial expression. I am excited to see what they are. And I kind of wonder like as you're walking through all of that, I don't know if we see Mendoza start this year. And I'm just going to lay this out because we can all digest this because this hit right now as we're recording this live. So this contract, he's signing a five year 172 million dollar deal with the Raiders. So essentially though, Adam Schefters put out there, it's one year guaranteed 20 mil, but it also has a club option for two years at 80 million. The Falcons are going to pay $8.7 million of his salary this season. And the Raiders get another 1.3 million loss. Vegas agreed to pay the quarterback a fully guaranteed $10 million roster bonus on the third year of the 2027 league year. This I mean, that kind of looks like to me like, do I think it's a five year 172? No. Is it a two year deal though? This feels like a two year deal, man. Like like where Mendoza might sit his entire rookie season. I'm not ruling that out. So I'm actually going to bet the over on the Raiders win total right now at five and a half as we're doing this because this roster might not be amazing, but if Kirk is under center and they've improved it a ton, I think they can clear five went five and a half wins. But I'm more, I guess I'm more worried than y'all are about like, we might not see Mendoza under center this year. All right. I'll be really goofy here for a second. Is this some sort of precursor to maybe, I don't know, not going with the number one. I thought it too, man. I looked for more picks in 2027. We're all of a sudden. You're like, maybe we like that quarterback class a little bit more. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. That's a ludicrous thought process with that contract. It's definitely we're paying them a lot in the first year kind of thing, but there's a lot of other wrinkles. And I contract that he brought us to us, Andrew that feels a little off. The Jets do have some former Fernanda Mendoza coaches on their back. There we go. I know Jeno's their guy. According to Aaron Glend, Jeno's our guy. But do they now call the Raiders really, hey, like is Kirk cousins your guy? Because we got some picks and we'll take Mendoza. Well, the interesting thing is it let's say they did swap right. Let's live in that fantasy land for a second. The Raiders would get a bunch of picks potentially in the first round, maybe even in 2027, first round or as well. I imagine the Jets would still struggle and that pick would probably net them something in the top five next year. Possibly as also even if they end up taking Mendoza. I imagine that Jess seems still probably going to struggle in that division. So Debro, is there a certain, I don't know, thought process where that actually makes a little bit of sense for the Raiders or are we just, are we just being stupid here and hiding too much into some of these contract details? I don't think we're reading too much into this because here's the thing. If they're giving him enough money and what that looks like in year two, okay, doesn't that kind of
to say he's going to start this year. And if he plays good enough, he could be the starter next year. And yes, I mean, the wheels are turning like, does this take the Raiders off the number one overall pick? Do they trade it? Do they select somebody else at the top? Like, I don't think we can rule anything out. The other interesting wrinkle about all of this guys is that for a franchise that was getting rid of Max Crosby in his contract in the salary cap hit. And everybody's like, Oh, I don't know if they have enough money. Well, the guys they've already signed. And then they go and add more to the payroll with Kurt Cousins. Like, they're not worried about it. So do they keep Crosby now? Do they keep Cousins? Like, is this a way where not? Okay, did the Raiders trade down in this? If you were the Raiders and you said, Hey, sure, Jets, you'll need a quarterback. Come give us two of those first in 27. And you can keep your second overall pick. You keep the first two picks of the draft. And we'll take your two first next year and we'll go get our quarterback next year. It's not impossible because you would acquire a lot more draft. I'll move up to take your guy. I look, I mean, probably, probably the scenario we're looking at is the easy one, which is yeah, Fernando Mendoza is going to have four to six weeks to kind of just figure things out. But it certainly does open the door to the conversation, I think. If somebody should present themselves with a, Hey, we love Fernando this much. And maybe you like Fernando, but maybe, or maybe you love him, but you're not in love with him. I don't know one of the two that maybe just maybe you're listening to some offers. Go ahead, Andrew. It's wild. Well, I think we also have to consider, I mean, Kirk doesn't have to play well. Yeah. That's true. Which he hasn't done a while. It doesn't mean. So that's the biggest thing too. So I think that the Jets making a godfather type offer, I think was always going to be in play. If, okay, like, I could see that type of scenario, but that's really it for me. It has to be the Jets being super, super aggressive to trade multiple first round picks to hop up to number one. And then the Raiders decide, okay, we'll kick the can down the road for 2027 to go with a quarterback. But other than that, I don't think that getting Kirk cousins for whatever this deal is is going to stop them from drafting court. I mean, it's like a smart one. He's like a quarterback. I don't want to be only. He could come out. He could come out week one and look terrible. And then immediately, what do you think everyone is talking about Las Vegas? We need windows and apply. So yeah, again, I wouldn't over analyze the Kirk cousins signing in some of this money, which I'm sure some of this is going to be some funny money. Like I get like, you know, half of it is in a whole special. I want your deal. This is in Cole's cash for good cousins. And again, Atlanta needs a quarterback. And they were like, yeah, see you later, Kirk cousins. So yeah, but I think that was just really getting some new regime coming into and fresh starts and all that blah, blah, blah stuff. By the way, it's nice that Debro finally gets that reference. The Godfather offer having watched the Godfather of my house. Last year, you said the Godfather and it evokes if you say, but I'm happy for you. You understand now what that means. That's great. What is it? And Joe more suit. Derek, what is a Godfather offer, Derek? Make it off. You can. Yes. I know. Right. Good. So proud of you. You're such a big boy. All right. Let's talk about one more piece of info news, too, because it's kind of strange. Book of a coup is that a weird off season. Can we just all say that? So apparently he's now entered a luxury treatment center. So he's been in the new cycle a lot. There was some comments that he made. Not the best. Trump that he made. Subgestures that perhaps some biting for some weird stuff. I don't know how far we want to get into it. But hopefully if there is a problem here that he's got here, whether it be drinking drugs, substances or something or whatever, if he is in this luxury facility treatment center, whatever it is, hopefully he gets it straight because I think most people really like Pukin Akua. And I think if you're going into this off season, if you pulled pop, you know, the populace of the NFL universe of players that you really like, Pukin Akua would probably a top five for most NFL fans. So this is a tough scenario here because I think a lot of people like Pukin. But Pukin's also been some weird stuff ever since the playoffs ended deep. So do we think that this is just like a let's put Pukin away for a little bit in a cabinet or you think there's some real issues here? I think there's some real issues. Man, there's been a whole lot of like goofy with everything he's doing between the gestures, the quotes, the slurs, whatever higher you want to frame that as well as shoot and shot with every Instagram model and celebrity to all day on social media. By doing somebody, there's been another video is where he's been in like a NASCAR events and stuff like that and the vibes have been kind of off. So I don't know what all it is in totality substance abuse stuff or not. I do know that that twofold, this is not great if you want to get the contract that surpasses JSN and not to just throw this into money and all that kind of stuff because obviously his health and well being is at the forefront of all of this. But this does come when he's due for an extension and that would be a record sitting extension. I mean, we all kind of think that at least close to JSN money. The other part about this and here's the other ripple effect. If the Rams are saying, dude, like we don't know because all the stuff y'all are seeing compared to what we're seeing in the building because all the things that get out into the news media versus what actually happens also in the Rams building. There's probably a lot of other stuff that it, things that have happened inside the Rams building that will never see the light of day. The other part of this, does this show the Rams into taking a wider seaver and round one of the NFL draft, not only is leverage for protection for them or does it reinvent them in the sweepstakes for AJ Brown potentially? Because there were some rumors about that. I wonder if that was part of the reason because we all kind of looked at each other like really the Rams, AJ Brown, Ericson, you were like the one of the first guys who was kind of bringing that up. And the fact that he hasn't signed this contract also this incident in these issues certainly give the Rams a little bit more leverage in that contract negotiation and also in some of the clauses they might be put in there. Pukka to kua. To me, that is, that's a big thing where it's it's almost like a win for the Rams in that sense, but it's kind of a loss in some other ways because now all of a sudden this beloved player isn't a really difficult situation. And then you're wondering how much do we want to invest in a guy that might have some other kind of issues? Yeah, obviously the health of Pukka to kua, his mental state is what's most important. And it's good that he is now finding, hey, I have a problem and I'm trying to fix that problem and that the Rams are supporting him. So I think that's number one, a good thing. And then hopefully he gets back to just making plays on Sundays, right? Super exciting player, especially with the ball as hands. And it's someone that Debra, like I always think about you where you were the high, like the highest guy on Pukka Nua coming out as a prospect. And he's in the first game he gets 20 Tardis. I was like, oh, wow, that's pretty good. I think I know he's talking about just just like absolute absurdity. But I do think that from the contract perspective and I think about, well, remember where the Rams drafted him? He was a fifth round pick, yeah, six round pick. So do the Rams do this as well? He was kind of like free money, right? Like we rolled this guy into a super producer with a day three pick. Do we just kind of like franchise him? Not car losses. Franchise him or just like, hey, like we don't really need, we've already gotten so much out of this pick, right? Like people dream about a third a day three pick doing what Pukka Nikuwa does for the past couple seasons. So if like this is all I get, it's like, well, maybe that's not that bad. And now we don't have to take on any additional risk for a get former day three player. Obviously has dramatically outproduced that has been underpaid based on what the production has been. And the Rams are definitely going to draft a wide receiver, whether it's around one remains to be seen. But even before some of this stuff trickled out, they wanted to trade Monte Adams. You look at the betting odds. We've talked about in some of the mock draft shows, my Kyle lemon to the Rams, Jordan Tyson to the Rams at the 13th overall 12th overall pick wherever they're picking with that selection that got from James Pierce, Jr. So again, free rolling all this investments that they've made with smart deals. Okay. Do they didn't get insurance with another wide receiver? So I do think it's it's definitely fascinating to think. And I think two George Pickens, right? He's the other guy who's just waiting for, okay, who's going to get paid next? Like I wanted to show up to train camp. Like, so he's just kind of like sitting back, me like, all right, Jerry, do you want to go down to the wire here? Because every time we do that guy here's a lot of downscaling opens. Every time we go down to the wire too, these guys end up getting hurt. I mean, I mean, Timmerclaw and like the longer that one last year, the more we're like, oh, this is not good. He's going to come out of the gate slow. Things are going to be a soft tissue injuries. The same thing. It's like how many times we have to watch the show to know the results of what it's going to be. He was the fifth round selection that year. The last pick of that round, by the way, 177 right before him. Your boy Evan Hall. Oh, that round also didn't age as well as the puketate. Not age. Just the puketate guys guys just the puketate. But also in the fifth round that year, Chase Brown, once he's three overall. So, so Illinois's workhorse. There you go. 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So hopefully I'll be able to broadcast from there with some takes and some things and some fun interviews as well. We're going to do this stuff on tailgate there, too. So let's start with guy Ted Hurst, a wide receiver that I know has been a guy that you guys have talked about. Georgia State product here. So Debra, why don't you get things off, talk to me about Ted Hurst and why people should be paying attention to him. Small school guy, big time talent. I don't know why he stayed at Georgia State for the entirety of his career. It doesn't matter, man. He's freaking fantastic. He goes to the combine. He runs, he has a 9.9 raz has a 4.440. The size, the physicality and his routes. And really this is more of a it's funny like how my prospect process has evolved over the last few years. And it's not just so much an analytical take because the analytics aren't amazing for him. Like 104th, 178th yards per outrun of the last two years. But the film is fantastic. He plays bigger than his size. The fluidity and his routes. He's an awesome route runner. He's a ballpoint winner. I think he's going to be around three pick in the NFL draft. I wouldn't be surprised if considering all of this. A team loves him and takes him at the back end of round two. But you're looking at a player that can play X, can field stretch for you. I mean, really cover a multitude of roles. Like really love this guy. Andrew Erickson, what are your thoughts here on Hurst in terms of what's kind of popped off for you? Debra mentioned small school, which always makes things difficult, right? But we've seen small school guys, especially wider receivers pop off hell, the greatest wide receiver ever. All right, Jerry Rice, small school guy, right? So it's not like small school guys can't transition to the NFL camp. Cooper Coyne. So Cooper Cuppa. I mean, but there's been a fair amount of them. I'd say in the last generation or two or these guys. All right, we get it. I'm just going to keep dropping small school guys that are good. Sorry. Don't make me bring up Evan Hull again. Don't make me do. Action Chism, baby. Oh, oh. Chism is. Oh, no. Tell me you didn't tell me you saw that same report. I was a guess ready. The other four is like, Chism working out a lot. Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob. They like trying to become a bigger. I know. I know. Erickson was argon. Oh, it seems like. Hmm. Do I want to add them now and Dynas Deamer? I'm going to wait for August. Oh, dude. He's here. He's already got him on every text. Oh, yeah. You can't get him. All right. Let's go talk about Hurst for a second here. So, four, two, oh, six, so size isn't a problem here for Hurst. I think it's a matter of, you know, what the competition you play again, so what that looks like. But what does it look like? Do you, when you look at the film on Hurst? I think that the small school is the only real knock he has against him, where he's checking off every single box in terms of what I look for in a rookie wide receiver sleeper. Well, does he win downfield? If you look at some of the guys that have popped off from some of these smaller schools that have gone later in the draft, well, they're usually downfield savants. And we look at Hurst. 27 catches on targets of 20 plus area yards over the last two seasons are the most in college football, according to pro football focus. So this guy wins downfield. He has the size in terms of target rate above expectations. This is a static look at from sports info solutions, 0.12 percent that is second in the class, only behind Jordan Tyson, who is viewed as one of the top three in this class as a first round pick, super athletic, great job testing at the NFL combine. And the last thing I like to do, especially when it looks at some of these prospect, I really try to follow the prospect timeline. And you know, how did they get here? Why didn't he move from George state? Again, apparently the Texas A&M coach really wanted to get Ted Hurst, but he stayed loyal to the program that he was at and he stayed. And it kind of gets me to think, what if he had been on Texas A&M last year with Casey Conception? Who would have been the alpha in that potential? In that potential offense. Especially in that way. If you look, I think they had to go to Conception as much as they did because they had no other alternatives. But when a guy's robbing the football at that rate and you had another guy, I'm like, what the f**k are you? You're not going to sleep in Conception. Casey Conception, shade and slander in here. We're not doing that. I can. And I'm not a few people who can tell it to him, I level because he's tiny. Tell it to him. I love him. That being said, right here. Ted Hurst. What if I fit really well into that type of offense and maybe you could have looked more like an alpha? So I think that where you're getting him and rookie drafts, I think that he's going to
He's going to be a steal for a team. He checks off too many boxes. So yeah, again, Georgia State, okay, whatever. But that's going to be considered and factored into his price across the board. He's a big wide receiver that if he lands on a team with a smaller wide receiver room, well, he stands out literally and figuratively, right? That's like, oh man, like this guy. Let's get him the ball. So I know when I watched him, I thought that he was a very smooth route runner, good release moves, and again, the situation's red zone threat. I also thought that I think the biggest thing for me was he moved like somebody that wasn't over 200 pounds and six before. Like his body control, I thought was really, really excellent. So for me, I think Ted Harris, he is the number one sleeper on our list for a reason. Now, we've all watched a lot of cool Peyton tape here on this show because we were kind of first to the, I just want to point that out back in. Was it early February? February? February? I did a show on Twitch, right? Where we were talking about we were watching film on different players. Peyton was one of the guys we were watching. And now it's funny because like everybody's like catching up to this cold, all the industry folks catching up to, that's nice. That's nice. We know who's subscribed into the show now. That's, that's what's nice. But while you're watching that tape, there's another guy kind of pops off to his Bryce Lance, a wide receiver there, senior. You look at the 40 yard dash time, 434. Certainly, the speed does not have issue there for him. Erickson, I'll start with you on this one too. It is a good wide receiver draft. I think people talk about the depth of it more than the exceptionalism of it. So what's your thoughts on Lance? Who is he more than just a dev piece or somebody? Is he somebody that can transition to the NFL when your opinion make a big splash? Well, he has the profile and athleticism to translate to the next level. And although it's North Dakota state, not the biggest program we have seen guys transition to the NFL, we talked about him early. Christian Watson. So I think that's like one of the easy comparisons because it's the same team. They're both deep vertical threats. Although I don't think that their game is exactly the same. I do think that he has certain size that teams are going to covet the athleticism like I talked about. I do get concerned that he basically didn't do anything until he was over 23 years old. So that's something that is concerned when he comes into his production profile. But the last two years, he's absolutely dominated. And I think that he actually took a big step from 2024 to 2025. Just like watching him play some of his highlights from 2024. It's like, hey, this big guy fast, catch the ball score touchdowns. Right? Like that's how I found a felt watching his first year as really like that full time player. And then the second season in 2025 with Colt Payton as his quarterback, well, I thought he really looked much more refined as a receiver. So the numbers are obviously eye popping over three yards per route run. Can excel in terms of deep threat. With the nation catch of 20 plus air yards last season, he caught 76% of his deep targets. Second highest in the nation. So he's showing that it's the deep past. Like I'm going to come down with it. Not just 50 50 getting going his guys 80 20 balls. Right? That's what it comes to when you're touring the ball deep to Bryce Lance. So again, also brother of trail ads. If we did not mention that. So I think that he is interesting. My only concern is just the really the age of just the production is not good. So he's going to be 25 years old during his rookie season. So the history of those types of players isn't amazing. So that's my only real concern. All right. Deep room any concerns that you have with Lance, who I know is a guy that is obviously if you're watching, you know, Colt Payton so much, you got to eventually take a look at what Lance has been doing that offense as well. I don't have any concerns about him. I think with the age and stuff, I think that there is something to say about breakout age and early career production. But the other part about it is in the age of NIL and things like that, we're getting older and older prospects. We're not getting as many 20 and 25 year olds, especially. And the thing that I want to highlight specifically for guys coming out of smaller schools, it makes just intuitive sense that they're going to stay in school longer. Like because they're going to get options to, well, a longer run way to prove that they are talented, whether they transfer or even if they stay at the smaller schools, they have to do what they can to sit here and improve the draft capital. If they're hearing from agents or whatever else that the draft capital is not amazing, but then they could stay another year at school, make some more money, go to like say the senior bowl or what have you and then be able to show out in that manner. Then I think it makes a lot of intuitive sense that the smaller school guys stay in school. But I love Bryce Lance, man. And I'll just say it like this isn't a helmet scouting thing. You look at size, you look at speed, you look at a lot of his game. Yeah, like I think he is Christian Watson 2.0. And this isn't just because, oh, he's coming from North Dakota state. It's so much of his game stacks up and reminds me so much of Christian Watson and the impressive parts about Bryce Lance's game just from the analytics side to this guy had only a 3.8% drop rate. When we're talking about and Erickson mentioned this, his a dot over the last two years was 14.1 and 15.5. And you're getting the high degree of the targets down field. You don't see drop rates that low as well as the other part about this when guys are getting targets and really the function of how they're being used is down field a ton. Not only do you see drop rates, not usually that low. The other part about it is Bryce Lance amongst all FPS and FCS White receivers last year was also eighth in yak per reception. So it's he's getting targeted way down field. He's not dropping any balls and he's still producing yak. You don't see guys that are targeted deep down field produce yak at that high of a clip. So the athleticism is translating. He's got some things were in his game. He still needs to grow as far as the route nuance and stuff like that. But he's a strong route runner release package is good. I just again, another player that we see that the NFL does this every year. I don't care what anybody says. It is a proven fact that double count speed. Bryce Lance, I think I have a third round like a late second, third round grade. I think he probably goes on the third round of the NFL draft. But if he were to get into the late second because the dude ran a freaking 434 40 would not be shocked at all. Well, I think you're also going to see, you know, because guys are making money in the college ranks nowadays that you're going to see a lot more older prospects. Just generally, and they should that filter system is going to be different. I think it should be different. The only guy recent memory that I can think of, he turned 24 in the beginning of his working season was Calvin Ridley. Right. So he was a little older, quote unquote, for the process and he ended up being pretty darn good. Before it was around there too. I wanted to maybe I'm wrong. I'd go back and double check that. Ridley I know and I did verify it before I set it on the air wave. It was here and he was drafted at 23, but turned 24 and like right after it was very close to that. So, but it's some of that, some of those years too was because of the COVID eligibility and things like that. Every era is going to be different. And I think this new NIL era is going to change things in terms of the age. Speaking of changing things, let's change up to the quarterback here. Same team, Cole Peyton. It was inevitable that we'd talk about him today. So I know we've talked about him before, but deep row now that everybody else is talking about him. Any movement there in terms of draft capital? I think everything's lagging on him. You look at every mock draft site and they're putting him as like a end it like, I mean, literally like a last round, last two round pick. I don't think that's going to be the case. I think we talk about all of this stuff and like quarterback position gets pushed up the board and quarterbacks because of the thirst of the position they're going to go earlier than they should. That doesn't just extend to frickin Thai Simpson. We all can understand that, right? So I think Cole Peyton probably goes in round three of the NFL draft. I don't put in him like going higher than that just because he is coming from north to go to stay. There is a short runway of him as a starter. There are questions and transitioning from being a small school guy. The offense that he ran, a lot of RPO, a lot of boot action, transitioning like this is a player that needs to sit. He needs to sit for a year at least and acclimate to the NFL game. Get more reps. Learn the system. Play a blow, call them mechanics, all that kind of stuff. But dude, his traits are high end. If this was 10 years ago in the NFL, like he'd be a first or second round pick. We're not seeing that this year. He's not going to be. I'm glad for him because then he's not thrust into a starting role immediately. But for, I mean, and I know I've brought this setup before, but for everybody that's just now tuning into the Cole Peyton show amongst all FBS and FCS quarterbacks last year with at least 150 dropbacks. Every other metric that I care about on a per dropback basis, talent's real. sometime and some breath there. And a year or two, maybe you do have something that's very special because we know the athleticism. It's like Josh Allen. You can't teach the athleticism. Can you improve footwork? Can you improve release point. Can you do all those little things and then improve on your release? Yeah, you can do all that stuff. And the lefty quarterback situation too is another one, two people just look at it sometimes and they can't wrap their mind around it. But you had a lot of success with some guys like Steve Young and the league and a couple other guys who were mobile left handed quarterbacks. So I feel like that you could just throw out the window as well. But for Peyton for you in this process, where you at? Well, don't tempt the Atlanta Falcons to add and play some all, baby. Like all those podcasts. Especially one that he would be immediately the most athletic one on the team.
because you can't move. - Fair. - So that might be something that Alana found was actually look at. Considering they just love drafting cordbacks on the already have ones on the roster. So it doesn't really matter. I had a question though for D-Bro, who was your comp for Colpain? - So, okay, I had to go ceiling and floor with him because the range is so wide. And I don't, don't give me these caveats. - Okay, who is this kind of like when you chop that? - The floor is Jake Locker. The ceiling for me. And I'm not, people need to get Tim Tebow's name out of this. - No, he's not Tim Tebow. - Or Tason Hill. - He's not Tim Tebow. - Oh, let's stop this. - That's something you plug into AI and it comes up. - That's dumbass nonsense. - If he gets a shit G-P-T of player comp right there. - If he gets a shit, - Stop doing that. - He's Steve McNair. - Steve McNair. - Now that's interesting. I mean, Steve McNair was so good. People don't realize. I think, you know, there's a whole generation of people who didn't, you know, the young, the young and don't realize how good Steve McNair was. - I mean, I know Steve McNair is. - I'm gonna be a fan. - That's refreshing. - I know that. - He was the last. - Nah, you ain't young no more. - He was the, yeah, not young anymore. He, he was the last, he won MVP with Pete Manning, right? Then they were co-NVPs when that was somehow a thing. Geez, can't believe that ended up happening. But for me with Colt Payton, I am always looking for guys that can move, that are for rushing upside, coming from the fantasy side of things. Just third in the class in rushing yards. 69 rushing yards per game last year. His career average is 40 rushing yards, but that's because he wasn't even starting all these games. He was being used in charge of packages as a pure russia in the North Dakota State offense. So I think that when you look at just the numbers, his rushing yardage, 69 yards, that's above guys like Justin Fields and Daniel Jones during their college careers. The 40 rushing yards per game, that's closer to guys like Jackson, Dart and Josh Allen. Have all these guys been super perfect. Obviously Josh Allen is the highest outcome, but Fields and Daniel Jones, it's never been perfect for those guys, especially as passers, but they've hit fantasy lines because they can make somebody plays with their athleticism. So I do think that Colt Payton and the Wright system could develop a little bit more as a passer, but right now it's like, hey, you got to throw someone out there who can extend plays, make guys miss in the backfield. I think that's great for fantasy football. So he is someone I'm circling and a lot of these super flex rookie drafts where, hey, this guy is so much better than this, all these crappy running backs in this class. So that was like, this guy's never gonna sniff. He's a lottery ticket. At least Colt Payton. He's a lottery ticket, especially if he lands in the Wright, if he lands in Andy Reads offensive, or he lands in Sean Payton's offensive room. Well, I think they still have to, they have got a guy ahead of him with who's very toolsy. I don't know if there's enough room for him and Anthony Richardson in the same locker room right now. There's a lot of air British in on me, guys. I don't know if the box is big enough for all the tools there. All right, let's talk about Eric McAllister next guy on the list today. TCU wide receiver guy who started a Boise State speed is his game. I think we can agree on that. Some questions about his catch factors and some other things there. So Andrew, let's start with you here with McAllister. What are the things you like about him that you think might be intriguing? 'Cause some of the grades will tell you he's more of like an NFL depth guy, back up kind of guy, maybe a special teams guy. Some other people have a different idea of what he could be. - People look at a lot of the advanced wide receiver metrics that we look at with prospects. He is top 10 across the board. Like you can't find something where, hey, we like this player because he does well at this, where Eric McAllister's name doesn't just randomly pop up somewhere. Last year he had 119 targets. That was fifth most in the class. He has a top 10 dominated rating and breakout age. So he broke out at Boise State at an early age. Again, he's not even 20 years old or, excuse me, he broke out before the age of 20. So when I was talking about Bryce Lance, it's he wasn't, he didn't do anything in college until he was 23 years old. Eric McAllister has been putting up numbers since he was 20. Well, before he was 20 years old at two different programs, second yards after the catch perception last year, first in Broken Tackle Rate. In 2024, he was competing for targets with two NFL players that were drafted on day two, Jack Bash and Savion Williams. He had more receiving yards than Savion Williams as a younger prospect despite fewer targets. Average 19.5 yards per catch. And before he got hurt and his final year at Boise State, he was on absolute here the first 10 weeks of the season, over three yards per run, 90 targets. The concerns I think with him are, and why he's not getting, 'cause it's weird, because you list all these things off, these are amazing numbers. And why isn't he getting more buzz? It's number one, I think he does have some off-field baggage. He was arrested in 2024 after threatening a man with a gun. So charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. So we don't like to hear that. And he also is dealing with some type of injury issues, where at TCU's pro day, this is Pertoni Paul Leane, one of my favorite NFL draft insiders, ran a 4-5-6, but then he stopped participating in the pro day. He ran 15 routes. Apparently he's had a right knee scope that kept him out of the shrine bowl, sideline time for the combine. Again, this is another part that we did not get testing at the NFL combine. So all these guys are blowing up, left and right, Ted Hurst, Bryce Lance, like we're so excited about Eric McHaleister, someone that checks off a lot of boxes didn't do the athletic testing. So, and then we also, Pauline noted that he might have a Jones fracturing in his foot. So those are the big concerns and red flags of a sleeper player, where the on-field production, I don't know if his so much up for debate versus, well, he's got all this other stuff off the field that has the reason why he's not more of a busier player. - Well, with all that stuff though, I mean, eventually that does pile up and it makes you question about how good investment is he, even if he falls to very late in terms of round draft capital. So, Dibro, where does he have to land in your opinion where you take a shot on him based on some of those things that he flashed on tape? - I think he'll be an early day three pick. Like I think he'll probably go round four of the NFL draft because of all the off-field stuff. And just to stack up everything, Eric's and kind of ran through there. Yeah, so in 2025, he had a hamstring issue in January of 2026, he had the knee scope and in March, he did have the Jones fracture but he did run the 4.5640s pro day before he pulled up. But the talent is there, man. Like if you turn on the film for him, he is freaking fantastic. And I know a lot of the other thing about it is, we have consistent not tropes, but like, okay, this guy comes from this college, we're worried about it. Tennessee White receivers, ah, TCU White receivers, ah! They don't ever seem to pan out, but I think we have two guys that can buck the trends here with that when we're not talking about Chris Brasel here, but I think we could talk about Eric McAllister in the same breath of bucking the trend of like helmets counting for these colleges. And because are there red flags here? Are there worrisome things about it? Yes, but the talent is insane. And like over the last three years, he's ranked 26, 16th, and 15th in Yards Per Outrun. Last year amongst all of the PS White receivers, he was fourth in Miss Tacos Force attempt. He was 14th in the Act Per Reception and all this stuff shows up on his film. Like he's a build up speed at White receiver. He just dominates on slant routes and he also is a really good deep threat. Like there are moments on his film where his ball tracking, it's just insane. Like he makes these awesome plays look so freaking effortless and easy. And you marry all of this together and it's like, okay, like there's a team that's gonna take a swing on him, probably in the fourth round in the NFL draft. And if he can get all the all field stuff together, keep his nose clean and be healthy, he could really, really pan on a huge way. Like right now just based off a talent, I've got him as my White receiver 11 in this class. And I float back and forth daily on whether White receiver 10 or White receiver 11 between him and Chris Brazl. All right, Andrew, you slender the running backs here. So I'm gonna bring one up Seth McGowan from Kentucky Senior. Let's talk about him for a second year, four, four, nine, 40 yard dash, four, two and a half vertical jump there. So deep, bro, you can start off here with McGowan. I'm gonna give Andrew time to collect his thoughts on the running back class here for a moment. So McGowan Kentucky, obviously, running backs last year, strong class. We all like that grouping this year. It's not as good as it's top heavy. Let's put it in that way. We love love at the top. Price is interesting. You know, my guy, I'm still Washington. But where are you out here with some of the deeper names in McGowan being one of them? I think he is the Isaiah Pacheco of this class. And it's not only because he tested the world. And he was an awesome athlete. This dude runs angry. He runs like he is ticked off at the world, at the earth. And he's trying to make the ground pay with every blade of grass that he stomps on. And he also pops from analytics like 2024, 40th in Yarchup to Contact, per attempt, 23rd in elusive rating. I think he does have a three down skill set. Again, a player that I think we're going to talk about, the interviews with teams are going to be huge because again, another player that does have all field issues. He was dismissed from Oklahoma, found guilty of larceny, got one year probation. But last year, you know, out of the headlines. So hopefully that's definitely behind him. But if there was a player in this running back class, outside of like the top five guys we've talked about and we're not sure that everybody's talking about top six if you wanted to include singleton, I don't. But it, McGowan could be the guy that that pops from the later rounds and has a very Isaiah.
type of career arc, but maybe we get a healthy version of Isaiah Pacheco. That would be nice. Erickson, what are your thoughts on McGowan? Well, I love that you brought the Isaiah Pacheco comp because you know who the new chiefs running back coaches. It's Demarco Murray, who was the running backs coach for Oklahoma, which is where Seth McGowan started his college career back in 2020. So I'm talking about guys that are old in this class. Seth McGowan, because he's had his issues with the law, he has been dismissed from again, dismissed from the Oklahoma program. He spent three months in jail, like legit. So this is a guy who has been kind of hit rock bottom at points and it's someone that's trying to bring himself back up. He played as a true freshman when Ramondra Stevenson was still on Oklahoma and he got suspended for multiple games. So he was a Christian. He was like, "What's the line? Is this that? Like you're on the 40. You do the vertical jump. You do the press. How many months have you spent in a correctional facility? Like is that something we have to add this to the combined profiles?" Yeah, I hope not. Feels like that. Because you want to go back to what does the guy do on the field? And Seth McGowan to me, when I'm looking for late round running backs who hit, are you big? Are you fast and can you catch passes? Check, check, check. Seth McGowan can do all three of those things. He actually kind of reminds me a little bit of Ramondra. That's kind of what gravitated toward me towards Ramondra back when he came out of the draft was. This guy's big and catches passes. I get he had some off the field stuff similar to again, not an exact comparison, but that's why he felt a day three and he's end up being a pretty good pro and definitely outpacing his draft capital as a day three running back selection. So, and the other thing too, and bearing lead, these 7Gowan shared a backfield with Mike Washington at New Mexico State and who was better? Seth McGowan, he was the more efficient running back behind the same type of blocking. So although Mike Washington is going up those draft boards because of his performance at the combine, yes, historic, Seth McGowan was also really, really good at the combine as well. See, I like what I said before the combine. So can't go by me. But that's what I'm talking about. I get what you're saying. Seth McGowan is free and he produced everybody's favorite running back post combine. And I think he's a good value. And again, if he ends up in the right spot, certainly a guy to watch. Last guy we're going to talk about here before we go transition to some more quarterback discussions on the tailgate today. Eli Hydenreich, which is definitely one of my favorite names. Running back from Navy. You don't see a lot of Navy boys get drafted very often here. So this guy ran, let's see, a 4 4 40. So that's not too shabby there, especially for a scrappy white fella. You don't see a lot of those guys running the 4 4s just saying, just saying it. So let's talk about him here. Let's talk about Hydenreich. Will and NFL team take a shot on him. Andrew Erickson. It's so funny because what, Christian McCaffrey wore 22 with the Carolina Panthers, right? And you literally turn on Hydenreich and you're like, Sky Wars 22. And I'm like, oh, his cop is obviously Christian McCaffrey. Wow. That's not the crazy. Yeah. Okay. He obviously likes Christian McCaffrey a lot growing up as a kid. Let's put that one. Let's not get crazy. That's what the tailgate is for Joe. Okay. Crazy. All right. So again, I'm not saying that this is my comp, but like it just joking as a side. This guy had an absolutely insane receiving production profile at Navy. Navy through the ball of the last two seasons. Under 14 times per game. He averaged this past year, 72 receiving arts program. That was almost the same as Denzel Boston. And the offense at through the ball 14 times per game. He had more receiving arts per game than Casey Concepcion. I don't mean just throw more fish. I'm not trying to say. I'm just not in your sleep. The back door. I just thought I was interesting. Nugget because there has to be something appealing about this particular player because of how he was the entire Navy passing him, which it is not a lot. But the fact that he was able to turn such a low volume attack into legitimate production that is drawing parallels to some of the top wide receivers in this year's draft class. I think shouldn't go on notice. So yeah, it could be totally just doesn't translate whatsoever. But at Navy's pro day, they didn't test him in any of the running back drills because we still don't necessarily know what teams are going to do what with him. They did only wide receiver drills at pro day and a lot of teams comped into, hey, this guy can have a junior element type of role in our offense. So Adam, I think he's more Daniel Woodhead than any of you. Yeah, Danny Woodhead. He's an idol. He's an idol. He's an idolman. He's an idolman. Hey, if you look at the testing for for Christian McCaffrey and Hayden Reich, it's nearly identical. And it is very, very cool. So why is he that? Debrot tell me why? Because first of all, I don't think that he stays at running back. And if you look at how they used him. So last year, he spent 44.3% of his snaps in the backfield, 14.7% in the slot and 32 almost 33% as a perimeter wide receiver. So we're talking about he was basically a wide receiver on almost 50% of his snaps last year. And if you look at the film, when they utilized him as a running back, it was only on motion plays and tosses to get him on the perimeter. So it wasn't like conventional running back usage. Lajet sweep stuff. Yeah. So it was basically wide receiver manufactured stuff, but because he was in the backfield that counted as a running back, he's not a running back. He's going to be a wide receiver and I think a slot wide receiver in the NFL. But he can run from the perimeter, man. Like his route running still needs to be cleaned up. I think there's some competition, you know, being coming from Navy that concerns there. But he's got the athleticism. He does have the route running chops. And I think he's going to transition and be a slot receiver at the NFL. And if you look at the athleticism and you look at the size, similar career arcs, but different positions they're coming from, he is Julian Edelman, dude. And I think a team's going to take a swing on him in the fifth or sixth round. And they're going to look very, very smart in about two or three years when he pans out. Yeah, sure. Remember size wise to Julian Edelman coming into the league. Where he was. I mean, he was a quarterbacks. It was very different, obviously, in that sense. But look, I get it. I get I get the concept there. Just a matter of can he make that transition? And does that mean also he's five, 10. So actually, Heidenreich is actually bigger. That's right. He's six foot. So got a couple inches on him there. So interesting. I mean, build why certainly built more like running back, but we'll see we'll see how that goes. That would be fun. So Andrews, that mean the Patriots automatically end up drafting him. Seems like it. No, they won't they don't draft wide receivers. Well, they won't do this. Nope. They don't have not a wide receiver. They want to draft somebody convert them. That's why I'm saying it. They think it's not when he does get drafted. We always we're going to have to be on pins and needles being like they're going to say running back Ela Heidenreich or wide receiver. Ela Heidenreich or offensive weapon. Ela Heidenreich depends on what the team right into the car. It's too old. So I like offensive weapon. All right. OW we're going to have some fun here on the tailgate today. We're going to talk about a provocative question I saw floating around the NFL streets, which is obviously this past year we saw Sam Darnold, a retread quarterback, a guy that once had a lot of promise bounce around a little bit and find himself in the Super Bowl and then find himself as a champion. And we're in a NFL scenario this year in 2026 where we've got a couple of those guys. Some guys who are former number one overall picks and some guys with some big draft capital who've now found themselves on a couple different teams and whether or not we think one of them could potentially have that sort of a path ahead of them in the future. So I'm going to throw a couple names here at the guys and I want them to kind of pick apart their favorite of who might be able to fill that kind of avoid where could you see one of these guys getting to or even winning a Super Bowl with their new teams. So let's talk about it here for a moment and some of the names that I've given up here Daniel Jones is an obvious one. Daniel Jones last year obviously injuries. Do you rail the second half of that season for them but at the time Daniel Jones and the Colts were in first place. They were the number one seed when he got her people forget that and that was the first injury and then the second injury took him out for the rest of the year but the Colts at the time were winning every single close game Daniel Jones looked terrific. Shane Stuykin looked like a genius and all things were going very well for the Indian
apolis Colts. He is back there again. I'm going to put him as a nominee nominee number two. Kyla Murray former number one overall pick. The Arizona Cardinals organization we know is not good. Historically it's been a place where quarterbacks go for retirement plans whether it's Carson Palmer or Court Warner and that's kind of what they've done over the years but every now and then they'll try to draft one and things typically don't work out well because it's not a great organization. They don't have a great history of coaching for the most part outside of you know some blips here in here and Kyla Murray now finds himself with a great coach with arguably the best offensive weapon in Justin Jefferson and a pretty good defense with a Minnesota Vikings so a fresh start for him next on our list Mac Jones who a lot of teams have been calling the 49ers about are interested in Mac Jones. We could see him landing in the right spot potentially and we saw him also last year when Brock pretty missed time performed pretty well and winning some big games for the San Francisco 49ers so yeah he's a system quarterback but in the right system Mac Jones could also be that guy next guy on the list to a tongue of ILOA another one who came into league with a lot of high hopes a lot of razzle dazzle from his former head coach there Mike McDaniel of the Miami dolphins now no one's with the dolphins and two of tongue of ILOA finds himself on a showmedio with the Atlanta Falcons and Kevin Safansky who is known as a very good offensive mind and certainly when you surround a good head coach and a quarterback that does have some intellect there with pieces like Drake London and B. John Robinson it goes a long way last guy in the list probably
the toughest sell now, but maybe more of a future projection Malik Willis, who everybody likes his maneuverability, everybody likes the athleticism. People like the profile. I just kind of got forced too soon to the NFL with the Titans, bounced around a little bit, ended up with the Green Bay Packers last couple years, and now finds himself as the starter with a pretty big investment in his future from the Miami Dolphins. So Andrew Erickson, I'm going to turn it over to you first. Daniel Jones, Kyler Murray, Mac Jones, to a tongue of ILOA Malik Willis. Who do you want to make the case for of these guys that you think has the best chance to do something the way Sam Darnal did last year, which is eventually be a guide that can take your team to the Super Bowl of those five who would it be? So this can be any year. Doesn't need to be 2026. Does not have to be this year. Just in their career. I'm just projecting into the future, baby. Hmm. In their career. Hmm. Hmm. So I think that does change the equation and how I feel about this because I was crossing off basically everybody for the most part for 2026. I really think it's Kyler and Mac Jones for 2026. Kyler Murray set up really well this year in Minnesota and Mac Jones could basically do nothing in the Super Bowl. He could be on the bench the entire year and the 49ers just went to Super Bowl. They had to have that. They had to have the right quarter back to win a Super Bowl. Well, okay. I've just had Kaviott. I mean, that's how I took the question. One day of Kaviott. Well, look, I would say this. For me, Kyler Murray is the guy that fits that bill because I think we know the talent is there. We know he's still a guy who can get out in space and do things and that's important to this modern day NFL. The weaponry is certainly there. I like to see them get a little bit more of a running game that I believe in to be honest to kind of offset that. That's just a personal thing of mine. But the defense is good. I think that division is still kind of close and I know people might look at the standings last year and go, how can you think that? Well, I think that the just a bismal quarterback played by the Vikings last year really just did not tell the full story of the potential of what that team was going in. And I think that you look at the Lions being a team that I want to say missed their window, but certainly they've had a lot of injuries. They've lost a lot of co-ordinators. They've had a lot of chaos. They sort of get blown up in some of these big games here and then you've got the bears who are fun story. But now people are prepared for the bears in year two. Does it get better or is there a little bit of more of a okay, we know who you are now. We're going to game plan differently and the packers are the packers. I feel like every year Jordan love misses some time and every year the packers kind of are just a slightly above average team, which to me means the Vikings have a real shot to kind of carve out a path for themselves. And I think there's a certain point here where Kyler Murray goes, hey, you know what, this is my shot that not only cash in, but this is my shot in the NFL to prove how good I am. And I think sometimes when you take a superior athlete and you drop him in a spot where he's got a chip on a shoulder or something to prove and a fresh start, typically good things happen. So Murray's my vote. And I know you're going back and forth on yours. I can give you a little bit more time if you want to like, you know, think about that. Deep, do you have a thought here of these five names? Like Mac Jones, maybe with the 49ers, Mac Jones, maybe with somebody else. I think there's a lot of teams that might come for him. Maybe it's as simple as Daniel Jones who already kind of showed you, hey, we could cruise to a number one seed and this division is very winable. It's definitely not Daniel Jones. I think he's a very limited quarterback. I think a lot of the ghosts of Christmas past were starting to jump up and say hi before you got hurt. He was reverting back to the old Daniel Jones. So no, Kyla Murray is the size of an eighth grader and a has played bad over the last few years of quarterback. He is a limited quarterback. I think we're more likely to see Kyla Murray transition and go play baseball and we are to see him win a Super Bowl. So no, you can miss me with him to a hell no. Nope, not doing it. Nope, nope, nope, nope. Do this. So between Mac Jones and Malik Willis for me, I think Mac Jones has the cleanest projection of you were talking about a team were to take him and make him their starting quarterback, a very Sam Darnell-esque type of skill set like he's a good game manager. If you put him with a team that has a really good defense, can he get it done and keep you on schedule as an offense? My pick is actually going to be Malik Willis and I'm going to go outside the box here. Malik Willis, I don't think we're really having a massive debate about out of this list of players who has the most raw talent out of any of these quarterbacks. If he puts it together, Malik Willis could be the guy and the other thing that people will say, "Have you seen the Dolphins roster?" Yeah, they've got seven top 100 picks this year. If they hit on half of those, the team is on a different track. As well as in 2027, the Dolphins have the third most cap space in the entire freaking NFL. They have almost $150 million. This is only a situation where take your medicine for one year and the next year it's full reset. This could be a young roster. This could be green-based south. If Halfley is truly that good of a coach, especially on the defensive side of the ball, could he get some of that Mike McDonald kind of energy, man? Like we're Seattle. Like we're talking about Miami, not exactly in the same breath. It could look very similar in a year or two. I know it's very hard to see right now with the composition of this roster. I'm going to go with the guy that I think has the best raw talent out of any of these quarterbacks. All right, Erickson, now you've had some more time to stew about it. Do you want to take a Kyler Murray? You want to take him to Malik Willis? Somebody else on this board entry, you? I do like the argument for Malik Willis because he is the one that's the most- That's the dark side here. Unproven here? Right? He hasn't had an opportunity to be the guy, right? And the Tennessee, early in his career, I mean, I don't think that that offense for him with Mike, like I don't think that was ever going to work. So that aside, this is his real first chance to be a starting quarterback with Miami and things obviously improve until 2027. I'm assuming he can show enough this year to get the commitment from the dolphins that, oh, we just drafted another quarterback and your sunk. So he's got a lot of boomer bust potential and playing in Miami too is not the easiest. Josh Allen, Drake May, so the semantics of that. I don't think it would go with Willis. I think it's still Kyler Murray for me. Get, if he's motivated, he's the former number one overall pick. You look at this list. He's the only guy here that was the number one overall pick of the list. And maybe that was not- I'm not saying that was right. He should have been. It's probably what- Well, because Cliff Kingsbury doesn't have that pick. He probably not. Is it the number one overall pick potentially? Maybe. So, however, I just still think that he's shown spurts of the highest ceiling of these five guys in my opinion. He just can't. He hasn't touched the thing. He hasn't been shaky at times too. But if he's motivated in the right office system and I think too, he's the one guy that hasn't- This is the first time he's playing on a new team. All these other guys have already played or get exactly two of us technically is also not played. But it's not two of us. We know that. We know that. That one we don't really need to talk about. But besides Tuha, he is the only other guy here that hasn't had a chance to play for someone not named the Arizona Cardinals. And we're talking about dysfunction. They're like top of the list right next to the Jets. Right? Yeah. So, I agree with you. The category was for the year two. You took a short joke stab at him. Russell Wilson is one inch taller. He won a Super Bowl. So I really don't need to hear that. Russell Wilson, he can't be done. You're not even in the same quad. What do they have in common potentially? Which is great defense. They can't carry them. You don't have to ask them to do too much. And when Kyle and Mary was at his best, it was with the Andre Hopkins. When you gave him a true number one alpha wide receiver that can make him better. I can't think of anybody better outside of Jamar Chase, maybe. Then Justin Jefferson. I might even put Jefferson ahead of Chase to be honest in terms of overall. So I think it's a really interesting scenario. I think it's a great head coaching situation for him. If there's a chance for him to turn in around, this is it. This is that opportunity. And I think this is a window too. It's intriguing because I do believe that that NFC North is a lot tighter than other people might think it is. And I think it is going to be a couple of bounces of the ball in certain ways. And maybe that fresh start too for Kyle and Mary is exactly what the Vikings need after a rough season last year. Now what do you think? 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