The surprising science of adolescent brains | Jennifer Pfeifer

The government and the opposing are the conservatives and the frayed is the hard left who want to tie them into the economy. They want to have a side line, a model of force, because there's never going to be any particular parties to go out and act as the nature of the hard left. And of course we know that the hard left is famous for not pulling any dissent. But we know that the hard left is associated with the hard left. You just said that we might ride a team right when hard left the gym. Training money, and liberalisation without compensation, hard left will position. And where will we put it? It's hard left. Yeah, I believe that. It's hard left. That's the kid. Yeah, I think he's from. He's from Cold War originally. His family are well, and he lives in Scotland. Okay. This is definitely a life-and-death way, also. I don't think he has no, I think he's kind of stealing Valor when he protests that he's well, and all that. Yeah. I occasionally try to steal Scottish Valor. Definitely if there's ever such things as Scottish passport. Oh, he's doing that as well by moving there. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just leering my desk a little bit. My desk, my coffee table, I'm sad I'm so full. I could use my desk, but I can't be asked to move my laptop and everything. I think it will be fine. Yeah, I haven't got a camera anything, because I'm on big computer at my desk. Yeah, that's cool. I've turned mine off anyway. You know what needs to see this shit? Yeah. I was just listening to one of the two IEM recordings, the Wembley shows. The ones you thought sounded very sterile due to the lack of audience. Yeah. I always think they do. I think I prefer when people, sometimes people manage to mix in an audience recording with it, don't they? And then you get a bit of best of both worlds, I think. Yeah, that can actually sort of improve for music as well. Like it just kind of balances out the sound a bit, fills it out, makes it sound richer. But now I mean, I don't mind. Like I'm mad for it enough for, you know, a whole stadium. I don't need to hear the audience. That's me anyway. I don't want to share the experience. I want the lads all to myself. See, this is completely against you. This is Fatsha's, Fatsha's children. Yeah. Your Fatsha's, that way says, listen up. Yeah. But where I'm Joe Recorb in, so I says, listen up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're representing the collectivist spirit of Oasis. I did say it to my mates. He has, I don't know if you watched it, but Liam appears at some boxing between it getting announced and happening. I saw people sliding off. Yeah, it was like, okay, he certainly sounded worse than that. But my mate was getting a bit like, oh, is that what it's going to sound like. And I was like, well, if you can hear Liam, you're probably in the wrong crowd. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was thought about it really. Like you sort of hear it in a minute. But I've been to ones where we've like said afterwards, we've come out thinking, is he, is he like a surgery on his voice or something? It sounds amazing. And then you hear it back of the recording if it's fucking awful. Yeah. I think the like 70,000 people in the crowd function as a sort of tuner for his voice. They all come together. And when you combine that many voices, they sort of get closer to the notes with the musicians on stage are playing. And then you hear the time on a recording technique. Like JJ Kale used to do. You didn't trust, but he didn't trust himself to stay in tune. So he'd just layer his voice loads and loads of times. And he was like, yeah, look now, I'm basically in tune. They're all, all the vocals are closer to the key in different ways. I'm trying to think, I'm in my head, I'm trying to think of if I've ever seen anybody live. Sounded bad because I've been able to hear them and often and they've sang badly. Yeah. But I've struggling. I can't immediately think of any. I thought Ray Davis sounded pretty shit when I saw him, you know, him from the Kinks. Not the tits guy, the other one from the Kinks, the songwriter. Oh, hang on. Which one was the tits guy? Dave Davis, the lead guitarist of the Kinks, did the woman with the big tits, who had huge tits, or as Dave Davis wrote the majority of their classics. Sorry, Ray Davis wrote the majority of their classic songs. And I saw Ray Davis. That was kind of track, doesn't it? Yeah, but Dave Davis wrote a few good ones. He wrote that one that's in the Dargy and limited strangers. The one with the, the topology, where there's the strangers on this road. We are on. But yeah, now he mostly writes tweets. What was his, what was, what was Dave Davis's tweet today? He had a great one about a leprechaun. I don't know. If I'm honest, I kind of tend to go on and look at my DMs, which we have to do manually now, because I was telling you to do DMs. And that's about it now. Yeah, this is Dave. It's kind of unusual. This was legendary Kinks lead guitarist, Dave Davis today. This is all one sentence, no punctuation. I saw leprechaun's in cork once. It was strange. To little insight into his exploration. The Irish culture, yeah, maybe. But it's not quite up there with the, I liked CBG, reason who was the woman with a big tits. You had a huge tits. I liked her or whatever. All the one about like back in my day, the woman had a hairy minge and we didn't mind. That was his other classic. I got tickets for snail mail today. Yeah, a tool aware of snail mail. I saw someone say they were generational earlier and I was like, I don't know who this band is. It's a woman as opposed to both. It's a woman who has a band as opposed to. And she is kind of notoriously bad life. And I've seen her once and she was certainly a bit out of tune and really didn't want to be there. But I don't know. I think the venue got downgraded. Or really? Cause I like turns up and Birmingham and I was ready to go to one place and it looked on my phone and it was somewhere completely different. So I don't know if she was just pissed off because she was expecting to make more money that night or. Yeah, I wasn't expecting to be in the back room of pub. Yeah, that's a bit rough. But yeah, I figure if I go and watch her enough times, at some point she'll have a good night that I'll see. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean in terms of bad life singers, I saw you brown. Yeah, brown. But he had the crowd doing the vocal tuning thing basically. Like enough people sang along that you couldn't really notice how off he was. No, I've seen him three times. I saw him at the V Festival once in a tent and it was brilliant. I feel like I talked about that last time. I wait, when was this? I saw him at V Festival in a tent. This was in 2005. All right. Now I saw young Charles. I saw him three years after that in a tent at V Festival. And it was really, it was just after his start playing some of those songs again and it was really, really good. Yeah, including his solo stuff on that, honestly, it was amazing. And then I think when I saw him at Brixton Academy, one where I can't remember if it was the night when Noel got a drink thrown at him. Because Noel was coming on at that point to play and keep what you got. Yeah, I can't remember if it was the night that we were there or not that he had the drink thrown on him. But, you know, that was okay. And then we saw him at Cambridge Corn Exchange. I wasn't even there, honestly. It wasn't nothing to do with me. Yeah. No, we saw him at Cambridge Corn Exchange, which is probably at the best of times a less mental crowd. And I think we were in seats as well. So we were not in. We were not in. Swap each other, swap corn with each other. Like I've got some corn here, would you like some of my corn? It's a gentle agricultural crowd. Yeah. And it was so, you know, it wasn't being drowned out. And I think at one point I did try and convince my mate that we should just leave that he refused. Well, can't walk out on brownie. Oh, it was terrible. It probably wasn't as bad as when he came back and he didn't have a band. He was literally singing on to a tape. He sort of a hip hop artist, isn't he, Ian Brown? Yeah. You can't really categorise him, can you? For justification, given for not having a band. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty rough. He went along to his mate's funeral and everyone just took the piss out of his stupid hair. But then he had tempt fate with the look that he brought to the funeral. Sure. I find stuff like that. like that really, really uncomfortable. The sort of paparazzi at the funeral. - Yeah. - Paparazzi is like, "You jump." Paparazzi is not a job. I actually don't care what happens to them at all. Like, everybody has a contract to deployment and everybody's having employment, it's that sort of stuff. Paparazzi is not a job. - Yeah. - Fuck off. I do not care what happens to those people one bit. - Yeah. Yeah, it's like when Alec Baldwin was like being homophobic to one of them, I was like, "Get him, get him, myself." - I imagine. (laughing) - I think I had four hands through. I've accidentally endorsed a view that I had intended to. - In fact, I would defend all of Alec Baldwin's actions past or present of future. - It is. The one I'm thinking of is here, isn't it? It was Alec Baldwin that shot a man. - What do you mean? - It was a woman, but you know, that was an accident. (laughing) I mean, maybe he's-- - I mean, he's just-- - He's just saying to me, yeah. Maybe he was legally culpable in some way for courts seem to have decided otherwise, but yeah, I don't think it was a cold, blooded, premeditated murder case. - Yeah, nobody has seen so suggested that. And of course, I don't condone that or-- - No. - I'm a phobic, but yeah, there are other things you can call a paparazzi that are completely vallés and I think you should stick to those. ♪ 'Til I get flares by the paparazzi ♪ ♪ I hate these niggas more than I've ever seen ♪ - Yeah, exactly, yeah, exactly. Lots of-- - Come. - Just go on the count. - Chollies words frequently used by the brothers Gallagher. - Yeah. - By the Oasis brothers as Bob Dylan called them. He said, "The Oasis brothers, I like both of them." - Yeah, I remember that from last time. - Yeah, yeah, okay, well, you know, we just have to get that in there somewhere. I can't remember the things I said last time. So it's a long time ago. (laughs) Oh yeah, I did, I mean, fucking months ago, I did take a bunch of notes for this recording. So I'll have a look for that. - I had a few things. Obviously, we, as a sub-for, we needed to discuss where it was been and the venue where it started. - Outrageous, yeah. - Obviously, there was the whole thing that I think a Ryan mentioned last time about the fact that he suspected it to fall apart quite quickly. - Yeah, and it didn't. - No, but to be honest, I have much of each other, do you think they saw? - Yeah, probably. - Might be worth a bit of investigation. - Yeah. - What else we got? We got you, obviously, we'll want to critique the drumming of Joey Wanker. - I was going to listen again today to remind myself so I could be more informed in my slacking off of Joey Wanker, but I didn't. (laughs) - I just don't think he's very good. - Oh, at least he wasn't good. - I don't know, I've never played drums. It's a little bit complicated. I wouldn't have imagined so. - But you know it when you fucking hear it, like he's not getting apart, right? - Hey, man, how you doing? - Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, what up? - Okay, hang on a sec. Let me fiddle about with us a bit 'cause you're all incredibly quiet. - I've got, I've got-- - I'm not doing a good bit now. - Whoa, there we go. - Fucking hell out. - But it was a big one. We've got, yeah, so great. I've got everyone turned up to full on here, basically. - Yeah, it's probably my, like, I don't know, like this Riverside just never plays mostly with my equipment for some reason. - Yeah, I don't know why it's working again for me now after just not being able to open it the last time we tried to use it. - I don't know, I'm sorry. - On this spirit of tonight's topic, should ensure that we are turned up with some distortion and some delay. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, make sure there's no dynamic range at all. - This has gotta be all a fucking big brick wall. ♪ Solid wall of sound ♪ - That's Elton John, not Oasis. Get load up, Mother Thaith. - Are you vaping now? - Well, some of the time. (laughing) - Just often replacing it, it's just both. - No, I mean, yeah, literally. But I've started smoking tobacco now. So I basically, I use the mostly smoked weed from my vape as a substitute for tobacco when I roll spliffs. - Suggested by my mate who's a doctor, so it's basically. - It's basically, it's very-- - At that point, it's medical advice, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the medicinal herbs. - That's all right, I do intend to mention the old bastard at some point during this, who's some of his possessions you, of course, now have in your flat. - Oh yeah, and he used to have, I've still got a copy of, I made him go to a dietician once, 'cause he was losing a lot of weight and he didn't have the appetite to keep eating. And he went to an NHS dietician, he's got a letter from an NHS dietician telling him that he must eat dessert with every meal, eat cook breakfast often. - That's a dream. - That's a dream. - Yeah, getting those doctors orders. - Yeah, there's just a point when calories become more important than anything else. That's what that advice was. - There you go. - So I've still got a copy of that letter. Love it. - Fantastic. What you're gonna say is just like, get weed ASAP, that will get your appetite going. - That wouldn't have been bad idea to face. Probably one thing you never tried. You might have seen it live, but done that. - Ah, well, that's not. That's not look back in anger, whatever. - Dear me. Oh yeah, I've got my notes here. I had a look through our conversation history in recent months, source. - Right, yeah, so I had a couple of things I would, I'll say, where else is the kickoff venue? - It's always kicking off in the way they were. - The way they were. So when we actually start the episodes, I think my precept should be you've glued me on on the pretext of doing a history of, well, the critical history of Welsh or something like that. (laughing) That turns out to be right, Oasis and Cardiff and I love a Mark Down Trim or something. - That's a big idea. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah. - So yeah, the other bits I had was obviously, it's got the fact that they're clearly just being kept apart and Liam, Liam clearly being banned from Twitter. - He's always fucking posting on there. - Yeah, but only after it finished, he seems to have a little break in the middle where he seems to be allowed to post. And he was allowed to post. - No, no tweeting during the actual actual part of the show. - He didn't, he genuinely didn't. He tweeted a bit in a gap, I think, before they went to Asia. - Again. - Rather than that, he based, nothing apart from him when people died. - Do you reckon that's a band harmony thing? Or do you reckon that's a. - I think it's contractual. - Did you reckon that's a contractual? Don't give out Liam banter for free because if his voice had, it'd still be in fact, and that would be like one of the only things that the tour actually offered. - Yeah, I think this is a discuss on the thing thing. I think. - Yeah, it is. - I have got thoughts on that. The other things I'm like down was like, the fact that I was actually genuinely quite worried about it like last summer because obviously the previous summer had been the previous summer and it had riots and what have you. And that could easily have played into my wages coming back. I was kind of worried about that and it never really happened. And I did absolutely shit it about some of the Manchester gigs because it was so hot. And I thought, people are gonna die here. It's, the whole thing is gonna get ruined. Like people are just gonna stand in completely open grass all day, just drink all day, take drugs all day and people are gonna die and the whole thing's gonna get ruined. - What a bleak way to die. - Someone died the night before I went. - Oh, you had someone like fell off. - Someone fell down, yeah. - I could talk about that experience anyway. - So I snuck up on the guy real quiet and then, (laughing) get your alebber in on record. - That's the last good idea. - It was the night before I was there. Would be my alebber. - Yeah, you were scoping out the thing. - It was a home. - Well, and if you're interested, I have noted down. In the end, it cost me less than 300, including my trains, my hotel and my ticket. Because I have devised what I call the horse method. (laughing) - I wanna hear this. - And I've got the horse method. - The horse method is already in operation for this summer. - Hey. - All right, all right. - So I will explain the horse method to you. - Well, there's not that many people listening to this, do you think? Because if too many people, - I'm not talking about horse method. - If it ruins the horse method. - Yeah, no, no. - It's about 50/50, whether I ever get released, so I, you know. - It's a music episode. So if all when it comes out, it will have roughly half the audience of a politics one. But I don't know. Everyone has opinions on our racist, don't they? All the political people love to talk about our racist as much as possible. - Yeah, and very, very well informed, - Yeah, I find it. - Yeah, they say, I hate talking about a racist. These are my opinions as follows. - And I assume it's like for to say about a racist, but the racist versus blur thought night was the last time I genuinely felt alive for reasons other than politics. So I'll talk about it incessantly anyway. - I assume that the intro music this time will of course be, "Hello." - Yeah, of course. Yeah, Gary Glitter originally. No. (laughter) FFF here in Spurret. (laughter) Yeah. You couldn't invite him. Shit would get a bit little too messy. He's not mad for it. He's just mad. Then, yeah, he couldn't make it, although he sends his. He wishes he could be. He sends his milk and he wishes he could be here to discuss America's most beloved stadium filling rock band. You still not got the eagle's episode out? No, that came out. That came out a year ago. Oh, right, yeah. Yeah, I got you, I got you. Slowly uptake you. All right, we might as well kick it off then, probably. So, welcome to Real Politics, 2026. They said it would never happen. We said it would never happen, rather. But here we are, delivering the first in our much, much-v haunted grand series of final episodes. Japs, you want to try that again? (laughter) I'm sorry, mate. (laughter) No, I'm good. I'm good. As Clint Eastwood says about second-day horse. I'm not good. If you're interested, this is the last time, man. As Clint Eastwood says about second takes, what are you here to waste everyone's time? No, we keep going. So, we don't know, we've edited out the first four takes. That was actually take five. Yeah. No, we're here today to discuss the history of music in Wales. So as I understand it, music came to Wales in the year. What year was World Gets Around? I think, like, 19th or 25. I think it was a consequence of the decline of Welsh mining, but they had to pursue other pursuits. Tom Jones came from Rachel Stamp. Sorry for it. Yeah. Thank you for welcoming to Rexham. Great, yeah. Great, well, should I use it for great Welsh artists. Because we're starting to run down real politics, we're starting to get final episodes out of the way. I was pitching all my mad ideas to Jack and he was shooting them all down. Most of them were niche wrestling content to be fair. I pitched, like, a discussion of Welsh rock music through history and I was very surprised when he accepted and finally, after being quite disgruntled, decided to actually appear on a record. That's nice. Yeah. So we're going to be talking about the biggest event of Welsh music. Yeah, we'll use this as our kind of starting point, the sort of the live music event of the recent Welsh musical history. Probably ever, I think, Jack. Probably ever. And when Stuart Cable plunged to his death coming down from the rafters of the Kemper Arena, I thought, please leave that in even if it's incomprehensible to both of you. It was like the two wrestling fans that listened to this all fucking pop bait for it. You also know about the past Stereophonic lineups. It was London when the guy fell to his death. Wait, did a member of Stereophonics fall to his death in a arena? No, I was conflating the non falling related death of former Stereophonics drummer Stuart Cable and the more dramatic live in ring death of the legendary wrestler, Owen Hart. Well, now you've already alienated our vast Welsh audience by making light of death of a member of Wales's most beloved band. I was paying tribute. Okay, right? There's a mention Stuart Cable on this podcast before. Yeah, here's the other. He's, you know, he drummed and he pulled faces at the same time. It was amazing. Funny hair. He would look at the camera. I would stick his tongue out. Amazing. So, you haven't mentioned, yeah, has he ever been mentioned like outside the context of in being dead? Never. That is true. No, and we can make it the end of the real politics without record. So you could, so one could date the advent of music in Wales to 4 July 2025 when a certain tour kicked off in earnest in the great city of Wales. I don't think the manic started the tour in Gareth of time today. Well, little, sorry to have heard of those. Sorry to piss on your trademark Welsh chips. You know, the together stronger come on Wales hitmakers, you know him. Well, I could be making a circle back to the trademark Welsh chips. You know, they're just kind of shit you be eating in Wales, just the chips made of sheep or something. What? You know, chips, the Welsh type, not the type that we over here. What you've done there, Jack, is you've confused chips and lamb. It's easily done, but they are actually two separate items on the take away. No, the Welsh, the Welsh, the Welsh, the Welsh call them freedom fries because they see them as a harbinger of the return to a grand Welsh Confederacy. This is the best planned part of this episode. Yeah. White Wales known for a certain, it's fucking certain itself over anywhere, over then Wales. I don't think that the dark legacy of Welsh colonialism is anything to scoff at personally, but you know, call me quote unquote "woak" if you will. But yeah, no, we're not actually talking about any of that Welsh bollocks today. You'll work for me one day, you English pigs. Yeah, a likely story. We are actually talking about one of England's greatest bands who are admittedly their lead guitarist and general leader says he doesn't actually identify as or feel English and it's two principal members. I wish. Probably doesn't know. birth but we actually we wanted to look back on the great oasis live 25 tour that kicked off for some fucking reason in Cardiff last year. Listen I have no Welsh friend I brought to this episode of false pretenses. I have one Welsh friend and he says Cardiff isn't even proper Wales. He says that they're not you're not clean Welsh they're not we don't stop recording for a couple of of us I've been completely downgraded from friends I love it downgraded from Welsh more like he says you're a cun you like pick one are you Cornish are you Welsh are you Scottish are you Chinese which one make up your mind. I'm a citizen of the world I'm all of you. #noborders. Well you know what crosses borders the music of oasis you don't need to speak English to read to no to understand oasis lyrics in fact if you do speak English it doesn't help at all you don't even need to be fluent in English to write oasis lyrics there might as well be in Welsh for fuck's sake and I say that with love. I'm horse by the way you might remember me from real politics episode I think 305 dynamic podcasting yeah oasis x. I thought we were getting in one for his expertise on Welsh rock and hating on gear's dam but no it turns out we only invited one when we're talking about oasis so welcome horse. Junk's aside I can't listen to a sterifonix happen now I used to I was young I used to like sterifonix I couldn't listen to I couldn't listen to where it gets around now yeah it's just a bit well she's been I can think of in Wales now you know I'm all for you know people expressing you know people being openly Welsh rather than hiding it but they just take it too far they just rub it in your faces you know going back to Wales is to kick off then you for oasis life 24. Yeah what's that all about but you've got you've got the oasis tour starting in Cardiff and then you have fucking Bob Dylan playing three shows in Swansea last year and not one in London what the fuck what literally fed up of it and it's and it's it's not just Bob though because this year this summer Neil Young is doing a tour of the UK with fucking Elvis Costello and the impostors with Charlie Sexton as his support act and he's doing a fucking date in Swansea, not three admittedly, but you saw Bob Dylan's "I Love Whales" t-shirt or whatever, he feels especially strongly about it apparently. - It's a trend set out there. Everyone's falling Bob Dylan to Swansea. - There's no fucking London dates either, so Shrieking Tin Man gets to see Neil this year. I don't fucking get to see him at all. - You can go to Swansea. - That's how I did I got fucking arrested. - Well not a ret- well I don't know, I got cautioned for marijuana possession but it's like literally just persecuted by the well-shorthorities. - While we were sort of ripping on where each other lived and who plays there, I came across the person who thought of reopening Rodney Starmer's shed as a music venue. - Yeah well it would be closer to harm to me. - Yeah, especially for you Jack. - You know what Neil announced another fucking date on his tour today, guess where? - Right, fucking Cornwall. - I guess it because you tweeted about it earlier. - I did tweet about it earlier. I was. - Go to Cornwall. - They love it when English people show up there on holiday. It works well for everyone. - They're English, I'm not having that. I'm not having the Cornwall on English. They're right there in England. - It is in England but England got a treat to them like shit and just uses it for their holiday. - Everyone says that. The Welsh stay that as no basis to it. - There's a very good reason that everyone says that. - Just wants to claim their mystery by the English or we try and all we do is try and - I'm not saying that. -. and we're not saying that. - Or we're going to get it on the record several years in advance, right? - In the run-up to the next general election, Paul Mason will try and get selected for a Cornish constituency. - That would be so good. - Yeah. - Outside that north, south-deaf maybe, but probably Cornwall. - Yeah, imagine him wearing his little pointy shoes and his funny hat. You know how people from Cornwall dress and eating a pasty. - Take his caravan there. Take his caravan there and say, "I've got a long term deep connection with Cornwall and I'll go really well for him." There's a Cornish language he can pretend to speak. It might be even harder from the research than Welsh, but. - Cornwall. - Did you see that he is now demanding as of a couple of hours ago. He is demanding that Zac Polansky and anyone else who shares his notorious mind map get a 10-year jail sentence. Here, Polansky spreads disinfo publicly attributed to Russian intelligence and by you, by Pro-Fremlin Greyzone. - You attributed it to Russia. - It's a 20-23, it has been a crime attracting 10-year jail sentence if done knowingly. - Jail Polansky, Jail Polansky. That would be a good detail. - He's done that in conversation with the Ukraine Solidarity campaign, which is the fucking AWL. - No, I'm not sure. - I think it's lost the fucking AWL. - Honestly, if Zac Polansky did a bit of hard time in prison, it would be a great lyrical detail in my new hip-hop song, "Black Polansky." - Shaked and titties for me. - You should do that for that reason. - If he's a true man of the left, he should give back to the left and destroy his life for your minor musical benefit. - He should do that. - By your bitch, some double D's, call me "Black Polansky." - I think this will be a hit song. - Yeah. - Yeah, sorry, anyway. - Many of you call it the Michael Rappaport of England. - Yeah. - Fragile planning for your post-porkasting career. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, gonna get back into the world of rap in a big way. Kanye, if you're listening, I will join your ghost writing team. - You think of your old real-politek pals when you immediately get cancelled and then launching your podcast as a sort of post-cancelled right when you're influenced there? - I don't know. I think I'm like this close to getting properly in with Kanye, like me and a bunch of me and a bunch of guys who know him really well were out in the club in Miami the other day. We were playing his songs over the club speakers. We specifically requested it and apparently he really appreciated that and he said he called up and said, "Thanks guys, continuing to bring attention to that song is gonna really help my professional resurgence." - Do you have a reliable source of laughing gas? That's the one thing I think, like making that unrealistic if you don't. I think FFF likes laughing gas. - Yeah, so, so, so will we know well. - Anyway, so yeah, um, yeah, no. - I do have a genuine opinion about Oh, it's a slight 25-sighting in Wales. - Oh yeah, okay, well it was. - It's not specifically Wales. Garant will probably know the answers to this, but I think the stadium in Cardiff is the only stadium in the UK that's got a roof. - Yeah, certainly the only but. - Yeah. It was definitely the first one. - But why would they want a stadium without a roof or with a roof, rather? - Because it's just that's right. - The rain you're dead, yeah. - Yeah, but all the other things. - I don't care about the rain. Yeah, well all the other stadiums didn't have a fucking roof, so what's this? - It just better to like. - I just don't think it shouldn't be in the daylight. Like ideally, I wish it should be in a small venue. It should be really fucking loud. You should come out. You shouldn't be able to hear for three or four days. You shouldn't be able to see them. You know, it should be murky. Everyone should feel vaguely ashamed even if it's in the middle of a day. Yeah, I agree. Like, 300%. - I'm not sure that's 100% in agreement with my point, but. - Yeah, that is. Yeah. - Like, because I did find it a bit. Part of the. Was this, how much of this was just money? And, you know, how much of it was 100% again? In what sort, in what sense are weasers back? Was the fact that they were only in stadiums? Which I think does help ask that question, because you did wonder, as you got closer, you know, would, but they're really going to start in, you know, in front of 75,000 or whatever they hold in there. And they did, presumably just because there's no money in, you know, in doing a warm-up gig. So it's going to be asked. It's like, no, we're only doing it if it's literally several million pounds a night. I think they're probably thinking as well, like, even though it hasn't actually transpired, that like, the more you expand the number of dates, even if that is like a couple of less lucrative warm-up gigs, the more the less money you make before the whole thing implodes in macaroni. Yeah. That hasn't happened, but like, we all thought it was to be fair. No, I didn't. I knew I knew I knew I knew I knew I knew that make it through, but no, I think I think it's about like starting the tour in style, like having it big from the outset, rather than doing like a little club gig to prepare. They really think that. Yeah, they wanted it to be huge from the very beginning. Like, yeah, yeah, totally. I wondered like, we watched it, didn't we, on an assortment of TikTok streams and Instagram streams and stuff. It was a lot better than I expected to be fair. The bit I did note though was Liam had sort of a getaway car. Yeah, yeah, he left. I don't know if you've seen this guy, but basically at the end of it, it's not just, obviously, cars sort of in a tunnel is under the stadiums to get out of. In this case, it sort of drove up to the stage. I reckon, and also, when I went to Wembley, there was like a massive great, I think it was Land Rover advert on the side of the stadium. I reckon Liam's getaway car responses. Like, do I mean, I mean, there was like the money stuff for this must have been completely the money. Yeah, the stuff like outside of it, like there's probably fairly minor stuff like no, it was like released expensive guitars based on it. There's a game guitar. There's a bonus guitar. Yeah, all the guitar guys in the band got all the guitarists got like a fucking custom guitar on the market. Get your bone hair. Shall we wanker gets some custom drumsticks? I don't know. I don't think the rhythm section got included in the festivities. And like, did you see like all the claves? Yeah. Yeah. Like, out of that shop, like in the cities, so everything. And if you think like the like the football shirt is probably the most ubiquitous one, which was I believe 85 pounds. Yeah, now the court for its sponsorship was through the roof. It's basically like when the stones came back at the end of the 80s after almost splitting up and they sort of didn't tour for like seven years or something. And then in 89, they came back and it was like sponsored by Pepsi or whatever. Yeah, it had been turned from, you know, what was on their 82 stool, their 82 stool tour rather still like a pretty, you know, rough and ready rock and roll band, but playing much bigger venues to this really kind of slick, efficient operation, where also they just like maximise the revenue from from touring, you know, in every conceivable sense. You know, I'd be surprised if they sold less than 100,000 to those shirts, you know, at 85 pound a pot. Probably. I went, I walked around the whole stadium, I made one at one, I walked around the whole stadium to every single stand to try and get in one before the show because I was there, they might have. And, um, not all sold out, every single one at 85 quid for such a full set. I've got one off the H gate because that's how I roll. Nice, yeah, you've been really gaming with this to this tall. Do you want to tell everyone about the horse methods? Now we're actually the horse method now. Uh, we can talk about it later. We can bury the lead a bit so that everyone else doesn't get the same idea and use it to steal our tickets. Yeah, that's a lot of ways to make up, they go find to get all the way through a, uh, the trail of the horse methods. The horse method. Yeah, if you want to see a race, yeah. If you want to see a race that's relatively cheaply, you know, from your trip being less than what a lot of people paid for ticket align, they need to stay tuned because I'm going to tell you about the horse methods. Is it you many of you still have horse methods? Is it just bugs someone outside the venue? No, of course it isn't. That's not in the spirit of Oasis. What about the spirit of Oasis? I'm not in the spirit of Oasis. I mean, if we want to just talk about our favourite things about the Oasis reunion, because I'm not enjoying all this miserable talk about how financially driven it was running from the tree. Don't believe the truth. We'll talk about, you know, what I will talk, when we start to talk about its being so actually being there and stuff, what I will tell you about is how unbelievably happy, unbelievably happy a place it was. Yeah, exactly. And it, you know, I don't think anybody left, you know, not feeling like, you know, they shouldn't have spent the money. Exactly. They probably shouldn't have spent the money, but they probably feel like they should have them. No, no, no, no. It's a good investment that I didn't make. It was, but, you know, I had the bootlegs. I'll always have the bootlegs to have them to hold or not to hold, because they're just on the internet. And I do, I do think that like the people who sell bootlegs that you can just download on the internet are basically the moral equivalent of child molesters. As much as I'm sure it's a nice item to have on your shelves, it's just, it's just wrong, isn't it? You're depriving Nol and Liam of another revenue stream that they desperately need. Absolutely. Yeah, I mean, I guess like my favorite thing about the whole reunion was, you know, how much it pissed off people who I think are nerds and losers, which is sort of my favorite thing about Oasis and Genre. Exactly. Just the way that they, that people have this like, you know, the people that don't love them often have this kind of visceral reaction to them where they see in Oasis every person who ever bullied from at school. And my perspective on this one is like, oh, I'm, I'm siding with the bullies on this one. I'm, you know, I'm just going to be like, oh, oh, Mr Gallagher, oh, Mr Gallagher, that's it. I'm all the more cut there, or Mr Gallagher, put the pie in their face. That's my way. When you're younger, there was always like music that was always in your face all the time. And that would have been Oasis in the mid to late 90s. So okay, I understand that to a degree. So, you know, I hate it. Sounds good to me. If I'm subjected to Robby Williams, I hate it. If I'm subjected to a cheer and I hate it. Yeah, okay. But what I find is, in 2026, I'm just not. You don't listen to the radio. Usually probably got headphones in when you're off in the supermarket. Like, it happens outside your world. Yeah. Like, I had this conversation with my mate about like Taylor Swift. And he's like, you know, quite into pop culture and that sort of stuff. He couldn't name free Taylor Swift songs. That's right. That's right. How has that been? Yeah, it got on him. I almost said, look what the cat dragged in, but that's a late period. That's a song from the Rolling Stones is 2005 album, A Bigger Bang. No. You know the song and an interest of Taylor Swift. Well, I'm just dragging the cat. It's a bit so, it's not me. Look what you made me do and cat. It's just wrapping a cat to the back of her truck and reliving her country days, dragging it along her ranch. All right, you know, look what you made me do. That's one. That doesn't count, 'cause I just told it that one. No, but I was already getting there when before you said it. - Okay. - Okay. - Bad blood. 'Cause I remember Kendrick Lamar did a better some that one. And would the song about her boyfriend's big dick. So there you go. - So I made you know what to know that one. - Oh, okay. - My point is, I suppose, is that it's the biggest thing in the world and unless you choose to hear it, you don't hear it. - Yeah, yeah, that is true. - It's not like, you know, in 1997, it's 1997, you wouldn't be able to avoid a racist. So that's why I've got, in 2026, 25, 2026, I've just got no respect for people being like, "Oh, this is terrible, it shouldn't happen." Fuck you, forget it. Like, people come in your mentions, being like, "Oh, racist shit." Like, "What'd you think?" "Oh, no, I'm gonna sell my ticket now." - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Like, fuck off. Obviously, Oasis is more important to me than you are. - I think 100% these people were worthless. I mean, the thing is, like, people just have this strange belief that if you're an Oasis fan, they can like talk you out of it. They're like, "No, no, you see, it's derivative music." It's like, "Oh, wood." - Oh, I have no idea. - I have no idea. - What, they're into the Beatles fucking, oh my God, or they'll say like, actually, they're more like slayed. It's like, what, you mean what, what are those other, like, favorite bands? - Yeah, it's, you know, anyone could play an Oasis song. - Well, that's why I've got a fucking Oasis guitar, isn't it? - It's, or like, you know, they'll say, all they're so stupid. It's like, "Oh, sorry, I didn't realize "but they were a brain surgery duo." It's like, my favorite artist is Neil Young, like, you know, a genius in many ways, a fucking idiot in others. So it's like, you know, who, who fucking cares, man? I think people try to make a logical case against Oasis. - Yeah. - Miss, but they're not aiming for the brain. They're not in fact brain surgeons. They're heart surgeons, you know what I mean? It's like when people tell you why you should, like, a food person will taste as a thing. It's what it is. - And they're gonna be in the end of the day. - Change mind of that. - Yeah. - And that is it. Yeah. - Anyway, I'm glad I got that off my chest anyway, 'cause I said, I do find those people very irritating. - Yeah, yeah, big time, big time. And I really like that they have this capacity to wind people up to the point that people feel like they're this kind of like existential threat to their entire worldview and existence. Like the other thing that you were, the other thing that you see is people post the screenshot of that article where Kevin Shield says that Britpop was an MI5 initiative. And I said that in good faith every time I've done so. - No, I mean, it's like, look. - Which is every few days for like the last 15 years. - To paraphrase Kanye on Lady Gaga, like, you know, I like a lot of the Kevin Shields' music. But what the fuck does he know about parapolitics? Like, it's a guy who leaves-- - I believe he was right about Britpop. - This is a guy who leaves the house - Literally was every 10 years. - It literally was. - It's just-- - Even Caliok, whatever his name was, Darren Caliok. - Well, he's an even freshman of Blur. - And my source for that is none other than the respected journalist, John Harris. - A Britpop skeptic, which shows what morally dubious position it is. - Okay, sorry, art for this episode needs to be a sort of chart that connects Britpop to something. - Well, but hang on, but I-- - I thought you were doing a formation line map of that Britpop. - Yeah, exactly. - I'm not, yeah, that's one of those. - Yeah, the black community, et cetera. - Yeah, yeah. Oh, Oasis not having a black community. - The black community, it's the black community. - I'm afraid he's tied to Oasis and black community. - Black community. - Just floating on attached to anything else on the Oasis show. - Nobody. (laughing) - But no, I mean, yeah, now I'm in mid-float. Like, I mean, one of the other things you see the Oasis skeptics say is that, I mean, it reminds me a lot of how, when Bob Weir, of the grateful dead died the other day, you had all these people who don't listen to music and listen to, you know, stream and podcasts and just, fuck you. And, you know, just worthless art forms if you can describe them as such, such as those. Lots of people are saying, you know, they're a CIA art, blah, blah, blah. You drill down into, all right, so what, what, what, what, what, what, what, - What seems to be a trend where all the bands you like, you know? - Well, can I, what can I say? The intelligent services are, it's in my name, intelligent. This is what the, those of us the intelligence you listen to, okay? - All the people, all the people you listen to, Oasis, the grateful dead, the scorpions, all your favourite bands. - Oh yeah, I love the scorpions, yeah. Yeah, then, do you feel like - I've got a whistle in the solo in it. Jack doesn't want to fucking know. - But, you know, you drill down a little bit deeper. Okay, what was the op then? What, what were the grateful dead there to do? And the idea is to pacify for counter culture by encouraging LSD use and going to rock shows. And it's like, I don't think that the young generation of the 60s needed too much encouragement to take drugs and go to rock concerts, you know what I mean? And similarly, there are a number of causes with that. It's a similarly, there's this idea that Oasis foreclosed better futures in British culture and music. Like if Blair hadn't created Oasis as opposition leader in the early 90s, you know, sorry, I think what Oasis formed when Blair was Labour's environment secretary or whatever, you know, not literally that, but he had some kind of role under John Smith. But I was at two, two number one albums by the time he was in power. Yeah, but the third one would have just after, right? Yeah, but there's this idea that like. The report will push by the government. There was still a government before Tony Blair. It's for shadow government. Yeah, there were a tool of John Major. He said deep state. Yeah, if Oasis hadn't been created as a consequence of Blair Major permanent government, then, then, you know, British culture would be, you know, completely defined by like, you know, instead, there would have been this great surge in like electronic dance music, which definitely hasn't been just also like appropriated by white people who like drugs. Like, we're gonna stow on like any number of sleeper mods over the years. I think it's something of a tragedy. Real down. Real music you can dance to. Getting that preset and going off about the shelves in Tesco is whatever. What does it all mean? I'd say, you're like, I saw a tweet today that was just like, someone was kicking off like, "I can't believe people still don't get sleep in mods after a day." And people were responding to it like, it's incredibly funny that their career is essentially suddenly in jeopardy now because a fan of their shed a clip of them, who's saying it's good. People are like, I've not listened to them in eight years or whatever, unless you were there after all. Oh, fuck. No, I'm just kidding. Was it for you? I didn't actually watch that clip though. Was it really as bad as everyone said? Was it for you? Was it not just like all their other music? Yes, but it was like the most of all their music. It was so bad. Honestly, like, go watch it right now in fact. I want your live reaction to this on the recorded. All right, hang on. Let's get this. This is going to be like the other week when I started laughing hysterically about that Mike Gates poster. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This was one of the funniest things that happened in a group chat. I genuinely assume that this point that people noticed it at the time, like when we've put it out, if you've done any of the fact that you hadn't, that was like the other way up there. No, I would never cross my mind before properly was the, sorry, we're going to classic RP here. But what happened to cross my mind properly about obviously Mike Gates and his extremely funny figure, but what happened really crossed my mind was the fact that he was asking people to put his name Mike Gates in their window and Mike Gates looks like that. And it is like, it'd never not be funny. You know, it's one of these to display like, you know, just random shitty MP in your window, but it's a sense you've seen publication. All right. I think I've, I think I've found it. Yeah, I've found it right. I've got it. Is it? Is it the one that says, "Van is shooting fucking brilliant." This shooting fucking brilliant. I've got a good ass supposed to net. Yeah. A fan of classic literature. Am I going to hit it? I'm going to hit it. I'm going to hit it. In particular, HP Lovecraft, Boris Johnson, greatest PM in UK history. The most fun going to be remaining sleep with mods fan. Yeah, okay. Let me watch this then. 50, 50, 70. Is this going to pay you all of it? I don't think it will. I don't think so. I probably could share the screen actually. I think it will. I think it will. Oh yeah, here we go. Arthur on X. Oh, allow. Share system audio. All right. All right. Here we go. Okay. I'm here myself. Fuck off. I'm just finished. Hey, it was too. Oh, don't wake up. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. It was too. Oh, don't wake up. Ha ha ha ha. It was too. Oh, don't wake up. Oh, don't wake up. I don't wake up. I don't wake up. I don't know. It's a bit like my song fucking vindicated. That guy just having a wank in his pocket. That's the benefit of a resetting the music. You can just have a wank while the singers doing his stuff. What does it all be? I think what does it all mean is the funniest bit. You don't have to tell me why. Those guys have got like 12 albums or something. I looked it up like what's the name of this shit song? So I got on the album coming out in like a week when this clip was going viral. So I assumed it was something off that. I looked it up as a track they put out four years ago. Oh shit. They're still a bit down there. It's bad for a while and just no one's noticed. Sleaf and mods band, they're just created by the security services to pacify the counterculture. It's just asking stupid questions like what does it all mean and wanking? The LSD of today, wanking. I've criticized Britpop as a government art but like less successful government art to exist. Fuck it. I don't like you. Famous teeth. It's the mock anger when he's like. Fung off anger, famous teeth. Yeah. Psych himself up before going on stage and. Actually, this team's gonna always be watching him around the house. He's got angry before he gets on the stage. So he can go, "I don't like you." Yeah, he just reads another guardian article about Brexit and he's fuming. Zah! Fucking fucking for us. It's so funny though that like they got noticed and they were basically doing that but about like. Benefits cuts and stuff and banks and all this and like it's been just successful enough that he's got no real anger left in him so he just has to sort of. Summon up this sort of fake. Fuck off anger. Yeah, but it's about nothing. It's just like, yeah, famous teeth. Yeah. Maybe that's about that. Well I tell you, he does have famous teeth and that's the name. Liam Gallagher. Oh yeah, Liam Gallagher. His teeth not tell in. By some German businessmen or something. Yeah. It started out being a Mafia didn't it and then it worked to throw you down to businessmen. Yeah, yeah, they're just like some some shit heads who play the markets in Germany or something. A Mafia of sort. Yeah, yeah. I mean they are a real Mafia of the last 30, 40 years. God, 40 years. Time has moved on quicker than I realized. Yeah, to drag ourselves back on topic like. I feel like Liam Gallagher still feels like authentically, you know, like he's gonna punch your head off when he sings. Like not not in not in just his everyday affect like he comes back right. No, but you want him to give kind of a violent performance. When you know he seems to have mellowed out a lot in his life. But when he gets up at that mic it's still the same, you know, snarling fucking beast that, that you know, made the band, made the band what it was back in the day. And then. The way I saw it going, the problem with this is as you know, I was very skeptical about the whole thing from the start. Much more so than you, Jack. Yeah, no, I want to, I want to, I want to, I want to believe. Yeah, but he was really, really, really good. Yeah, and his voice is in, you know, I was like, yeah, I was surprised by that. I was like, that phrase was, because like his voice had been pretty fucking awful at like the end of a way. So this is main run. And from what little I've heard of his solo stuff, you know, so he's obviously fucking put some effort in to get it right for the tour. I know there's loads of money involved, but. I didn't expect that. I was imagining that UK would be fine because you don't hear it. You vaguely hear a bit of him. The rest is just a crowd. What I feared was firstly, I didn't think they'd sell out stadiums in the US. And they just did instantly. Yeah. And I also thought when they got to the US, the crowds would be much quieter. And there'd be a backlash, largely about Liam's voice. And now that stuff ever happened. I didn't hear any complaints about his voice. No, from America or elsewhere. I think a lot of the bands that were like, huge in Britain and sort of, like the Breach Fleet very famous like Oasis in America or just sort of quite small cult bands that didn't cross over in America have become much bigger in America since I think it's because of streaming. Like if people are into like one English band, like even if they're just really into the Smiths or something, and they hammer them on Spotify, Spotify will just recommend to them like English indie bands. That is true. Yeah, Oasis have got so much bigger, like in terms of streaming numbers since they split up. Like every year basically it's just got bigger and bigger. And that includes in America. So yeah, they, they, do seem to be legitimately popular enough to play stadiums in America right now, which they weren't at the end of their run in 2009. The end of their run was probably actually as successful as they've ever got in US. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They played Madison Square Garden in Rose Bowl. What's the big one in LA? Hollywood Bowl. Hollywood Bowl in I think 2005, and those with the bigger shows have done in US Red Rocks as well. Yeah. Before that, they were seen as like a flash in the pan in America, weren't they? They weren't here. They had like massive hits with Wondawall and stuff in a brief period. And then it's like, really well, one was mad about us, it's one year ago. That's what I thought was that if people have like heard our ACES streaming since, or you know, you weren't there, like you weren't born in a lot of cases, you're hearing the 1994 recording in Lifferever or 1995 recording in Ponderwall, Liam doesn't sound like that. And I was just imagining that what would happen is that all these people would buy these very, very expensive tickets and they would hear Liam. He wouldn't, first he wouldn't sound as good as he did. And even if he did, that they wouldn't get it. But the thing is he sounds good enough. And people know that he's 50 now and he's not going to sound like the, you know, 19-year-old indefinitely maybe or whatever. And people know that he's lived hard as well, which means his voice is going to be a bit rough. But it sounds cool. You don't want him to sound exactly the same as he did when he was like a teenager. I don't, like I, and you don't, but I think like the general public would, some people just want the most people aren't sound exactly like that much. Yeah, very enough. For a lot of people, they're just, you know, people don't think about it in that kind of depth. They bought a 200 pound ticket to go on COACES, probably imagining it would just sound like wonderful. I guess, but they, but you know, I think the lack of complaint speak for themselves. Like he was, he was good enough, but it wasn't an issue. But I'm just saying, like even if people haven't like kept up with what he sounds like now, they, they just know he's a bit older. He's not going to sound exactly the same. And he sounded enough like his old self that people are like, yeah, that, that's the guy. He's still cool as fuck. He's still saying incomprehensible things between songs. That's what people want. They, you know, we said the last time, but Liam can still light win a crowd over even if he's singing fucking terribly. And, and fact, and he wasn't singing terribly this time. So yeah, he had an extra thing on his side. I think you should edit in some of his nonsense, by the way. I don't know if you're going to sit in any of his nonsense. It's probably difficult to find. I got an e-glue stiffer in the audience. Right, do we have any glue stiffer's in the house? Come on, there's fucking more than that, man. Any glue stiffer's in the house. Don't be fucking shayma with a glue stiffer's man. Steady away that kid. Professional glue stiffer. Nice. No, I was not thinking about the thing that the sort of half joke that he kept saying about he bumped into a kangaroo or he bumped into a squid or he, you know, and they, and that, the end of it is that they, and they said you'll never get these people doing the posthana wherever he is. It's different thing. Yeah, it was so good. It was like no payoff to the joke. It was just this. Yeah, this one rambling surreal anecdote. Right, so walking down the lower his body, going to see some of the quiet one early doors. Now the union is boy, boy, boy, boy, boy. Big fuck off kangaroos, I'm sorry, yes. It says you, I'm killed from all the ways, so I went high out here since my age grew. So now we have junior kangaroo in the air. He said welcome, what's the trade you got? We've got a little track of the game. He's also doing posthana and now he's at base in one ace. He said, hot eggs. They're not strong now. They don't have sunstroke. They're fucking about in the garden with a bad cue. It's all in sign. So wait a second, 25, I'm going for them. Is it anywhere you're out of it? You bounced off. Only in Australia. But that's Liam now, man. He's a cosmic fucking dude, which means that half a sheet has makes no fucking sense, but just in a more overtly surreal wave. And when half a sheet, he said, would make no fucking sense, but in a kind of angry, drunken way, walking around backstage at the show in in Cardiff in like 1996, like, I fucking hate the Welsh. Yeah. No, but he's he's completely you turned on that. There's this article that's like it was in like, you know, Wales online or whatever. And it was like Liam Gallagher. I love the Welsh. So he's gone a full 180 on that shit. He's come over to the right side of history. It's good. It's good. The people can learn and grow. There's always going to be that room for redemption. I feel there's even hope for you, Jack. But I feel it's a way off. Yeah, I don't know. You know, I believe in rehabilitation, but there's there's there's limits to what can be done. Yeah. If you meet if you mean about Wales or if you share the poor Mason line, Matt, 10 years in prison. Yeah. I mean, that's that's Russian disinfo, bro. That's illegal as of 2023. Apparently. That's right. Putin invented the idea that Wales was shit. So, you know, anytime you say that, you are you are playing into the hands of Russia. Well, the hands of Russia felt in the Oasis region who knows who's to say. Austin, next to some Swedish, that's that's basically Russia. Post-ish. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I believe they were part of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Do not fact check me on that. It's cold in both countries. So they're basically the same. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. They've got their sort of backward, slavic culture in Scandinavia. Yeah. You want to talk about the things that we that we like to buy it. I'm going to continue with the things that worry to me about it beforehand. Yeah. Well, because yeah. So basically, I thought I thought it would probably be okay. I thought Lee and probably would prepare for it, but I also thought I didn't think other people would would be okay with it, but apparently nobody was. My biggest worry was that the previous summer was the riots and stuff. Part of me was definitely thinking this could easily become a Tommy Robinson thing. And it just didn't at all. Very relieved by, to say the least. Yeah. I don't think that's good for business being affiliated with Tommy Robinson. I don't think so. I mean, you can't control it. I can. I was more thinking the people that turn up and stuff, that there has been an Oasis fan for a couple of them have been Oasis fans 30 years. You can't pretend it's not like a lap. Oh, there's definitely another lap, but it's a different crowd, isn't it? Like the people who would want to go and see Oasis now is not necessarily like the kind of hardened, loud contingent who'd be at the shows in the funny tinge, you might say, of the purpley men who frequented shows throughout the 2000s. I think they would probably be there, but I think they're probably worth the number. So I thought they might have been. They were probably sort of drowned out by everybody else being normal. And like a lot of people like there with their kids who presumably like listen to Oasis or their lives and you know, never been alive while there was an Oasis. I went with my sister who is 23. I'm going to say I went to him who's six. I think 23. And one of her friends and yeah, the Swedish lads that were next to us was absolutely mental. And they were, I think they were teenagers. It was just completely crazy in terms of how happy a place it was. It just didn't have like any of the things that I was worried about. It just didn't happen at all. I'm sure on that night that I was there, it was probably the happiest place in the world. Yeah, I wish I could have been there. I have to live like, are you through the boots? So you've said before you'd been seeing them at Wembley. Yeah, yeah, I did in 2009 on the final tour, one of the last dates. So I saw them at Wembley in August and it was, it's definitely like the furthest I've ever sat away from a stage. I'm not sure I've ever really sat to be honest, but it was right sort of at the back of the corner and I did wander a bit like a people going to want to sit down and stuff and it's going to be really tame. And it just wasn't at all. It was, yeah, stood and jumping around throughout like the people in front of us. Women was just shoveling coke up at night. He's like literally all night. They're very nice. Like, you know, it takes the pictures for them of all of them. They're all very nice, but I swear she didn't look at the stage once. My mostly focus on look again. And so next to the Swedish lads who would obviously never have the chance to see her racist first time in their crazy, like literally to the point we had to sort of say like you need to come down like a guy actually died last time here in that sort of circumstance of just jumping around too much. I don't know that he was jumping too much to be fair, but they're very steep modern stadiums. And if you stood up, kids can fucking do that again because you hit a point in like your middle 20s or whatever, you just suddenly can't do that anymore. So you remember when you went where Again, that was my worry, was that people would actually sit in their seats. That was a big worry for me. I think that it was a bit more of a boring crowd when I was there. Because I was very far back in the stadium. And, you know, Oasis did tours every few years. But when they did a tour, they did UK, like multiple UK legs a year basically. So in the 2000s, there was plenty of opportunities to see Oasis. So it was a big deal for me, but it wasn't for everyone there. Maybe I'm just thinking of my dad who was just sitting there like grumpily while me and my mate were fucking having it large. But yeah, no, the atmosphere wasn't as electric. And we were very far back in the stadium as well. So that was probably a factor. And the POSNAN hadn't been invented yet at that point. I don't think. Probably had it in POSNAN. Yeah, probably. Isn't POSNAN a person? No, it's from like a Polish football team that played Man City in Europe. But they saw him doing this thing in the ground. Like, that's funny. Let's nick it. That's very much an Oasis style attitude. He's like, oh, that's a magical dream. I'm having that. Yeah, it's exactly the football equivalent of like fucking Noel Gallagher here in How Sweet To Be A Lidia. What's really funny actually is that Noel had slagged off for POSNAN on the Mat Morgan podcast. I think because yeah, an image had gone viral of Noel just sitting there looking miserable while everyone around him did the POSNAN at a football game. And he defended that on the Mat Morgan podcast saying, "Nice fucking stupid. It's not for me." And then it became like a core part of the 2025 Oasis show. But maybe he was just playing with us. Maybe that's what he wanted us to think, but he didn't like the POSNAN. Yeah, he's a mastermind. He's been playing this all along. Yeah, Machiavelli. We'll probably never see Noel himself do the POSNAN. Can't imagine. It's just miserable the character really, isn't he? Although he did sort of. He did seem to see. He says, "I don't know what did surprise me was that he played as much lead because I was he did because I thought he seemed to have sort of settled into a life where he didn't really do that anymore." And that made me think, you know, maybe he was a bit more into it than I thought he might be. Yeah, obviously we knew Liam was going to be into it. But I do think it did seem. Noel did seem to enjoy himself. I'm sure like, I think a lot of it probably is the fact that he's been divorced and his wife and Liam apparently really did have a problem. When Noel was doing high-flying birds, obviously he was singing all of it as well. So it's not like, you know, he didn't have the ego boost of being the frontman at that time. What's he going to do? Just stand there, play strumming chords while Liam sings everything. Like, no, no, he wants a bit of a spotlight, you know? So he's going to take as many solos as possible. Although, I mean, it was quite cleverly structured guitar-wise because Noel basically plays all the lead for like the first half of the show. So everyone's like, "Nol's back and then again starts doing more and more as it goes on." And they start sort of splitting it half and half. But no, just on a few, like, music nerd level, love the three guitar line-up. Just bonehead with those big bar chords, Noel playing the solos and so forth, and then game-adding all the textural bits, which yes, Oasis songs do have textural bits. You know, but there's always like 500 guitars on any given Oasis studio recording. Not just be here now. That's just where it's most noticeable. That was 600 guitars on the first one. What really over the top? Yeah, well, they turned it up to 11. But on, yeah, on the others, it's just like 10 and a half. But there's still, there's always more than the three. How long has that 22 songs, maybe? Yeah, I mean, the longest set they've ever done, isn't it? It was. Yeah, but it was big on wall of sound, probably not very big on wall of the textured ones. We might have talked about different things, but yeah, that wall of sound, like, they benefit from three guitars in different ways, I suppose. Well, it's like, game can play the slide guitar part on Casino's Shadow and stuff. Yeah, bonehead plays acoustic guitar. Yeah, whereas also, like, when you play like fade away, that will always just benefit from there being someone, like, smashing bar chords as well. Yeah, yeah. Like, because it just, it just makes it louder. Yeah, well, if we're talking the music, I mean, you were not so impressed with the new drummer, where you horse. They, I mean, possible sacrilege, Oasis, let an American join the band. One of the top session drummers, Joey Werenker, who played an REM for a time after Bill Berry left the band. So you'd think that guy is obviously, he should be able to do Oasis, drumming, which is how this time is tied behind his back. I really thought he was going to be great, because I don't know like, not anything about him, but like, played for his bands that I would imagine, probably more complicated than Oasis. But I didn't, I, the hair is an issue. I think it's only for one. The bald man of Oasis is bonehead, and bonehead is embraced as baldness to such a level that his name is bonehead. Yeah. Whereas this guy, if you've ever seen a picture of him, it's, it's Bobby Chauhan level. So, you probably won't get that reference. I know the name. Battle Barry Bannon for a modern one. Like, I'm not going to know fucking if Barry Bannon is. I don't know who the fuck Barry Bannon is, yeah. Well, it's a very, very, very, very, very old man of your own love, though. I feel bass listeners, which is probably only me. But yeah, his name is so close to Joey Wanker, you've always got a problem with him. But yeah, now I was listening to one of the bootlegs just before he started, and he like fucked up one of the key fills on cigarettes and alcohol. Yeah. And it's just like, how the fuck do you fuck that up? I mean, I'm not a drummer, but it's not like it's, I mean, that's from Motoni McArali era. That's from the guy who knolls sack from a band because he thought he couldn't do complicated enough stuff. If he's doing that, they might as well have just got Tony McArali back, but then the stars are literally just doing everything they can to happen. He sued for band and knoll holds a grudge forever. No, it doesn't think that he can play challenging material such as the songs from after that. They're firing what? It was for you to know that. It was probably done with back in anger. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because that's got some skills on it. Dutal, dutal, dut, yeah. Has a little drum solo on it and yeah, you do fear a bit for what? And Wonder Woman might have done to that. Yeah, but the drums on Wonder Woman come in in a weird place, isn't it like the middle of a life? Yeah. And how's it? I might be making a stop, but has it? I think knoll might have played the bass on Wonder Woman, or at least it'd been sort of rumored that knoll played the bass on Wonder Woman. I think knoll played the bass on a lot of Quixie ear tracks. Yeah, because it's a little bit tricky in a way that Quixie literally sort of playing root notes. Yeah, Quixie not part of a reunion. Did you ever see really neat stuff? It would have been a 2004, definitely, maybe. It was a DVD that came out for the 10-year. And there is an Easter egg on it, which is a letter from Quixie explaining why he didn't want to take part. What does it say? I can't remember. It's a nice letter. It's just a, you know, it's not part of my life anymore. Wish everyone the best kind of thing. It's not a remotely bit of thing. Then it's, I kind of, you have to press a certain thing on your remote to get to it. It's like a probably Easter egg on a DVD. He wouldn't have wanted to be part of a reunion anyway. I think that I think that I think that they'll have that in the bag. More, more gariant-friendly content. I have a book that I ordered. I hadn't realised that Quix had written it. I think, possibly, someone else. So Robin Friday. It's footballer. I can't remember who he played for. He's probably a couple of teams, but Cardiff. Did he write that with Paulo? He did. Oh, we might have done that. Robin Friday was the mandal-giver-fuck. He was the inspiration for that song. Yeah, apparently he was like this is immensely talented footballer. Who was somewhat off the rails, say the least in his. Yeah. I think, was it Paulo Hewitt? I know he wrote. He wrote 100% of what he was probably. He did write a book. He definitely wrote some kind of book about football with Quixie. So it's probably. Yeah, I didn't realize that was 100% Paulo Hewitt. Yeah, apparently Quixie is like in Cyclopeedic in his football knowledge. Yeah, and after the Superferia and WestJabbing thing, he became like sort of. Robin Friday became one of those sort of people that like. Britoplatans would just be like, "Where legend like a sort of Howard Marks type figure?" Again, because Superferia was brought up to everyone to take she. I think Quixie's interests are basically. They're supposed to be football number one, smoking weed number two, Yeah. Doctor Who number three, and I think his main musical interest is Reggae. And Noel said something like being in Oasis was like a distant five or something in it. It's a list of interests. I can understand all those interests individually, but it's a mad combination to have, I think. I wonder how many examples are there? Like, how many examples are there, like, of people who joined the band because it was fun? And it just turns out they just didn't actually want that life at all. Then it wasn't fun when it became like a successful time thing. Yeah, yeah. Obviously, like Liam and Noel, that was. I don't know if they necessarily know probably Dream to being a superstar, I guess. I think Liam probably just lets things happen to him. And then was on willing to give up for being the superstar. That was cool. Quixie was just playing in a band with his mates, and then all of a sudden you've got to fly around the world all the time. And if he's already got a few million pounds, then you're going to walk on. Apparently he hated how like you know in certain countries where they'd go to tour like you couldn't get weed that was like a massive deal breaking for him. There's probably what his nervous breakdown was about in 1995 their manager told him that they didn't have a weed contact for like the first date of the US tour and he was like right I'll catch up with you guys in a few weeks. I'll finish off on talking about actually like being there and how obviously yeah none of my fears about it came to pass at all and it honestly like start to finish it was so much crazy and I'd imagine it being and everyone knew you everything yeah like I too felt like my mate I think had been revising essentially to know it but it got it all and like you know these lots of Swedish class and experts you need new every single word or everything and my sister learns all the words and it was only the thing is I was just where me and Jack end up having very different opinions. For me the thing is it was a party you know it was a celebration of what it was and it as much as I thought it was so much better than I'd imagined it being and it was brilliant it was like just you know being there again for the times that I really used to love when I was younger it didn't make me think I want Oasis to be a real thing again it kind of made me think I want to go to the party again. To me it's like it ran in parallel to real life it wasn't yeah it's not part of like the site guys really you know part of musicals you know it's sort of running parallel to it. I mean the thing we disagree on is whether they should make a new album or and it's not I don't think we necessarily disagree on whether they will I think we both think it's quite unlikely but I wouldn't be surprised if they did a new tune at some point for a greatest hits some shit like that. Nole even expressed a willingness to do with Oasis a bond theme in one of his the only fucking interviews with Nole have been like there's one about a fashion and then just various appearances on talk sport that's where you've had to get little nuggets of information about the band from Williams just been on Twitter obviously. There was one interview with Gem and guitar world as well that's like the biggest insight into the music of the Oasis reunion we've got. So it's an interrupts you on this but it's a point I want to make actually is that for me that was part of the kind of like running in parallel thing and I think had they done loads of interviews like you know when Oasis came back in a past there'd be a multi-page interview in enemy and there'd be talk about how this best album they've made since definitely maybe they're going to be the biggest band in the world again and Nole would have full kinds of like shitty stories and if they did that now I would fucking like cringe myself into a pretty serious back injury where in this case they just didn't they did nothing it was just literally like they're playing you can go and see it if you can get a ticket and that's all it is. They built Mystique in their absence where as their whole thing before they split up was that they were very available for comment at all times like yeah they're what there wasn't as much of a distance whereas this time I think they're like well we've been away for so long why don't we have a bit of an air of mystery around us and what we're doing and then you know they'll get more people watching the tour documentary that's coming out this year and that's our eventually yeah yeah I just kind of thought like it was better that it was just completely what it was and you know probably will be again if not this time I'd fully expected that by like New Years Day live 26 would be here and it's not and I'll come on to that a bit of horse method later but I don't want a racist to release music I don't want them to go around like if someone asked me how are we yes that enough no like are we just you know the best live band in the world again or something my husband it doesn't matter it's irrelevant it just is to me it was completely what it was I don't need to compare it to what other people are doing now and stuff it was all about that thing and I really loved it like that. I'm just interested in what they could do I don't really want any more Nol Galagher's High Flying Birds records and I I really don't want any more Liam Galagher records written by committee saying I mean the Nol stuff is purely just what he wants to do which is a problem in itself the Liam stuff is just product man it's just some stuff that sounds a bit like Oasis to give him a reason to play the big venues which it turns out he doesn't even need he can just do a you know an all-oasis tour and everyone will go. Liam's mountain was making his first album yeah and I like that album and then he did it. I love that album I really do but that was his mountain everything else has just been you need an excuse to go and tour yeah I bet I guarantee if you ask Liam Galagher to name ten songs from his second two albums he wouldn't be able to do it he's sung them as many times as it took to get the vocals taken studio. Yeah I think some of those co-rights on his second and third albums are co-rights in the sense that he may be changed a couple of words around yeah yeah yeah yeah whereas the first record is a bit more him there's a few that you wrote on his own and there are genuine Liam songs on that album and then also there yeah like and I think he said actually I'd like China towns the one that springs to mind for me which he set he admitted was he's got a co-write on it but it's so clearly not a song that he would write yeah yeah yeah yeah he's probably like changed the words here and there or something he's got credit whereas certainly like the second album there are bits I think there's bits like the the verses of why me why not clearly him yeah the rest of it on and the third album is barely him at all yeah well there's a couple of songs that are deaf there's a couple of songs that are like a hundred percent him and they're pretty weak maybe yeah let's say Liam all Liam wanted to do an album to be Liam Gallagher again and to try and prove something to know probably yeah be climbing that mountain and then after that I don't think he cares at all all he want all he wants literally all he wants to do is be on a basis he wants to stand on the stage to sing cigarettes that will call every night yeah oh yeah I guess my thing regarding the new material is just like no likes to write songs he will do it regardless and I just rather hear Liam sing them than him do it I feel like I'd rather because I feel that there's diminishing returns yeah and I think I'd rather that they didn't go out of an oasis I he can release whatever he wants on to know Gallagher's name I'd rather he didn't do it under oasis yeah even if Liam will make them better but they won't make him good but I think he'd be he'd feel obliged to step up his game where he writing something that was no a system he knows he can't he can't do some shit like what's like a real bitch ass no Gallagher solo songs like fucking I'm like heat of the moment maybe he oh heated for moment I really don't like that song at all and I'm fine a bit apart from that yeah I don't even like the chorus on that one yeah that's the Mexican but that's not him I quite like the Mexican yeah even more he stole it I like it because he stole it off for your morphic androgynous you know you say that you need love like a kid on crack tell me that line wouldn't sound less embarrassing coming out of Liam's mouth that's what I want Liam to go through and and if no refuses to make an album and Liam like I don't know John Squires busy doing his painting or whatever so Liam can't do a second dog shit album yeah whatever shit no he's got for another oasis album I'll take over the John Squire one yeah and and a new Liam Squire album is rumored but it's probably just Liam leaking it to the press to force noils hand but yeah if no if no um doesn't want to do an oasis album Liam should just do it Liam Gallagher sings for songs of Noel Gallagher he takes the the least shite high flying bird songs it just knocks about with bonehead and his anonymous session through so we have a you know so I'm surprised at like life 26 isn't there I am so I'm surprised as well but if it if it doesn't happen this year I'm 100 percent certain it will happen next year no so lazy to be back to Paris no this like I yeah I'll take three years off between an album it's so lazy it's unreal it finished so I wonder if you might get pressured by his kids you've seen like all the stuff like the kids have been to like the whole thing yeah yeah they loved him his eldest daughter and minneas I think his is only his daughter actually was constantly sending like tips of stuff around and stuff and that's really nice I wonder if that was a pressure him yeah well apparently nolyn Liam's kids are all good friends with each other now there is a genuine familial link other than just their mom at this point to kind of force them to at least be in it each other's vicinity to some extent as much as yeah I don't think they saw each other much backstage during the tour which again is like so standard for reunion tours and stuff like you know I think you know Mick would probably get a knife to be a fruit if he tried to go to keep stressing room before a stone show the eagles on their hell freezes over tour after they reunited they did not see each other it was all separate private jets you know So yeah, I mean I'm not too surprised if that is the case but it seemed like they saw each other walking to the stage at least Yeah I mean you would probably expect that Unless that was just a stage and a couple of stage shots and now they're actually just pulling their limos up to the stage door and then getting ready Well I mean that did seem to be what Liam did for a little bit Yeah, that was how Liam got off the stage certainly again, though like that's the shit that Bob Dylan does just as soon as he's off stage Getting the bus and out of the fucking place wasn't Liam going home between she'll host as well. Yeah, I think so I think the money is probably a big risk now in the sense that they've now made or this money It's probably quite a delicate situation in that you know if no obviously no would have had a divorce bill to pay Whether it was impact on his life. I don't know now certainly won't know Absolutely, he's probably made absolutely enormous money. They can afford to blow it now in a way they probably couldn't last year Well, that's why you know they're they're thinking alright. Well, what could we do? Should we lay down this bond theme? Yeah, we never got a Liam's song version of freaky teeth. I think it's time. Yeah, you're right. Have you ever heard freaky teeth? Oh, I immediately wanted. Yeah, it's it's better than you're imagining I think. It's a top. That's very impossible. It's very obvious. It's very obviously written as a kind of bondish type song. It was No, he'd written it for his first album and left it off. He'd left it off his first album and then the first night of the tour he played it anyway. Yeah, he played it every night in the tour. Yeah, every single British in the band has a rejected bond theme. They've hastily changed the name of it last night. The amount of bands were songs called like tomorrow never lies. Well, that sounds like an racist song title. It's one word off a Beatles song title. I mean, you might have asked I doubt there's going to be a bond fit on called freaky teeth. So you probably have to change its name and something. God damn it. There should be. There's a very sort of bond sound to it. Yeah, fuck off. Wanko freaky teeth. It's a much better teeth song than the sleep at mods one. I can believe that I don't even. Well, I guess it yeah mentions freaky teeth in like the second verse doesn't it? It's like the girl with the. No, he runs it with the Queen. He's like tell me tell me what. Tell me what you bequeathed. The girl with the freaky teeth. Yeah, it's pretty good. He's a pretty good song. I just wish there was a Leon. Sounds like it. Yeah, it's top-chain. You know what? Like around the time of reunion. Like I sort of warmed to BDI a bit. I think maybe maybe as a kind of alternative to the big stadium nostalgia thing of the Oasis tour as much as I enjoyed it. I was just I was appreciating like, you know, Liam and the lads being forced to go back to basics and write an entire new repertoire because they were too proud to play Oasis songs. They didn't this is something I thought about the other day and I thought probably wouldn't really fit in this in this fucker. But they weren't the songs for BDI were mostly quite old, I think. Yeah, because I don't know if you've ever heard there's a leaked demo tape of games that was for to go out the soul. And that's where standing on the edge of the noise is of the show that they showed on Channel 4 that I went to that obviously shows that that existed before you know, not before BDI before the last Oasis album. And that's on there. There's a song on it called Mindfield Field. And it's the only song that never appeared for anybody else. And a lot of Oasis forum type people seem to think it was really good. And actually don't get YouTube help. It's kind of wild. Imagine if wild mega tar gently weeks was like really misogynistic. Yeah, much mind field. Mindfield field it was a demo that was done for to go out the soul. And it also then didn't make the BDI album and people on Oasis you type people on the internet seem to like it. I think just because it's wise like it's like a kind of passable song that never went anywhere. Yeah, but when you listen to it, it's a lot less than 100. It's a bit like what are you actually saying here? It sounds a lot like you hate women. I hang on. I've f*cked up hanging on stop. I'm just stopping sharing for a second so I can do the shit properly. Bring call back here. Sh*t. Scream. You do seem to have improved a bit on the IT since the Warrior TFO tech support half hour, which is my favourite bit of podcasting in the world. Yeah, from not doing it. That was him stopping podcasting. Yes, we got much better. All right, Window Riverside FM. Where are we? All right, yeah, I've got I think oh no, I should share the wrong window. Didn't I? All right, one. You distracted me by saying how good I am at technology. This is your f*ck assault. Prix. Well, last time I pay you a compliment track. It was a bit backhanded, I will admit. I don't doubt that. It's the sepisode comes out and it's like Jack's added sponsorship from some agentic AI service. And that's been added in post. So no one will sponsor this because of the content of what you're about to play. No one will sponsor real like that's a constant no one will sponsor real quality. Yeah, that's the one. All right, don't turn it up. I can't hear anything so far. Oh f*ck it out. That's a flash act. Jesus Christ, man. It sounds like a laces. The drummer's act star key. Probably not on this probably Gamel drums or no. So I think this is probably just gay. Yeah. Yeah. It's pulling it. Gotta get to the bottom of his pulling the strings. Am I right? Oh god. Oh god. F*ck it out. I'm really glad that this was considered to be not over high enough standard to appear on different gear still speeding by BDI. Oh god. I would literally rather listen to heavy stereo than this. It's musically boring but it's not one the worst thing you've ever heard. Oh, it's just by numbers. Yeah. But it's the lyrical contents just. Yeah. She's pulling the strings. She's stroking her nose, rubbing her hands together. F*ck it out. I know it's not misogynistic because he's saying we put each other through this. He's taking culpability. Gems a good man. Jack, can we stop this now? Now we're probably listening to the whole thing. I thought you said it was like going it. There's nothing going anywhere. Let's be honest. You forced me to make this bed. Yeah, you forced me to put it on. We're listening to all of it. This is my car, am I? I wonder if Liam was singing it if I'd be like, "Yeah, that f*cking bitch." How f*cking dare she. I'm sure we've all felt like our heads have been messed with at sometimes by people. I can't say if everyone is throwing it but you're out of the window. Yeah, that was I'm with a bit U-Tray. Pulling strings off. Yeah, good. I forgot I forgot in that lyric was in there I promised I didn't plan that So anything anything that reminds me of latest record project volume 1 I'll give a pass you know But there are I would you agree because everything records reminds you of latest record yeah Yeah, yeah, it's like someone someone criticizes me. It's like oh they're clearly jealous of me Which reminds me of the song jealousy from Van Morrison's latest record project volume 1 Oh, jealousy Thanks, they're saying for me I'm not to blame to see It's just a main jealousy Guarantee if you go on some of my racist forums now you will find conversations about that song That would always say oh I can't believe they didn't use that one That's how it is without takes though Yeah, cool fans always go mental for them even if they're shit like it's like that with the the Kanye quote-unquote Grails like some I saw her on Twitter It was like a post-rum like an account that post some release Kanye stuff and they were like finally We've got our you know our grail like obviously like holy grail which is like an alternate version of that song about sucking his cousin's dick sung by I'm like right kind of is not even on this track. This is your your grail like really but but even you know back when I'd be looking for his unreleased tracks More than I do now because they've taken the tracker off the internet He keeps hitting it with copyright strikes believe me. I'd be looking if I could you know You click on half of them that the fans were like sounds amazing and it'd just be here on top of it like The Rapping and I'll write it later. I'll get someone to write it for me later That's like classic hardcore fans shit or like the stones Put out a deluxe edition of black and blue one of their lesser loved albums from the 70s first like stones from the 70s So man it's pretty fucking good But the second disc what it was like there were two previously unheard songs. There was one called shame shame shame Which was Thankfully because I was worried about this not the same song called shame shame shame shame That was on their previous deluxe edition of one of her old albums There was another song called I Love Ladies which I was like is so So classic just sleazy stones like I was so into that one But the disc wasn't called just like outtakes it was outtakes and jams and the rest of them were just like 15 minute jams like Chuck Berry jam which is just turn to turn to the I'm sure some people went crazy for that Not me though But I do I do like outtakes and stuff like I would be interested to hear anything in the oasis vault That is written written by no and sung by Liam. Yeah exactly if there's anything like that like there was that leaked version of let there be love where Liam sings the bit that no sings on the album that was cool or Liam singing the good rebel which became a no An ol galagas high flying birds song and when I heard that song from You know no doing it with the bird the Not the birds that high flying birds. I was like Man, this is embarrassing. Just singing it just going Just like not even hiding With that kind of exact baseline. Yeah, with with the ticket to ride drums It's like three fucking Beatles songs in one or whatever But when Liam sings it my ears perk up, you know, I'm like yeah, you need that penache to pull off this kind of thing I always used to say like I would I would listen to Liam singing nursery rhymes And that did hold until his third album. Yeah, until until John swire wrote a little song Where else that I'll be using exactly that until John squire wrote him lyrics like you read and yellow and pink You know, if you told me that I'd in the last couple of years I'd go and see a racist with my sister who wasn't born the first time I went to see a racist and she would know every words and we'd have the most amazing time I wouldn't believe you and if you told me that there would be an album that Liam Gallagas sang on That I've listened to twice I won't leave you in oh and and also and but it's not just a Liam album. It's with the visionary lead guitarist of the stone roses I mean that's more believable If you heard any of the old ass or whatever Yeah, that was a whole entire week ago Yeah, but the main problem with his solo records was that he fucking sang on them I mean the songs could have been good for all I know because he was like oh I could die in walrus on top of them. I guess actually what's happened as I flipped on it and again for some Garein friendly content in the same way I flipped on the x-files right when I was younger I always love watching mythology episodes Yeah, and now I think I probably have the same other word I flipped completely back on it and you know The monster of the week is where it's out and the foliage basically doesn't make sense and yeah I still like in my thoughts the episodes because of like childhood nostalgia But like I was convinced as a kid that like this was all going somewhere about three seasons after that was a New decrystosition to hold Yeah, and when I like with Oasis I was like all in till the end on Oasis being a Current band and my current favorite band and wanting to hear everything as I told you before you know Paying to liberate tapes and all that sort of stuff and now I'm fully Now fuck it nostalgia Don't want them to do anything ever again. Let's have the party. Let's remember how it was Speaking of bands you should never do anything again. I saw Tom York's pre-show playlist earlier And there was a song on on it called Tio Tio he Tio took you can You know you know the one I know I've been all song from the x-files soundtrack precisely Press like you got my dream which became keep what yeah, so actually This is important to you in use to having like encyclopedia go is this no This is important actually because yeah, it there is a genuine use for this which is to point out that garion often gives false information False news in these podcasts because I listen before I came on Before I came on of the first time I listened to jacks very well assembled oh AC's on the bus episodes. I thank you garion had accused Had said that no song for the x-files had been dumped off the soundtrack in a quite derisive way His said that tific and what and what that was actually was was that garion was talking about the tv soundtrack which I think was from Nightlife maybe and I said something and what jack was talking about was the x-files movie soundtrack from 98 or I think maybe 99 Which did have the no Gallic a track on it was a closing track on it exactly which makes it been poor information much like Large language models and a are he is sort of conflated to sources and So has sort of AI if you ask me if I was an AI I'd say that's an excellent point. Let's explore that for Yeah, and I was standing over a lot of gun We are gonna do this for this server because last time I was on the podcast We discussed the phenomenon of Jerry Sinaman I believe I was wrong. He played stadiums in Scotland and it turned out yeah, and you said he had it and I it turned out Actually has twice. Yeah, I mean nobody's a winner there No, it's unfortunate Yeah, anyway Tom York falsely claimed while he's well Tom York is fucking sat backstage listening to Seven-minute instrumental no Gallic a tracks and the x-files soundtrack He's like, oh, I'm gonna claim that this song is by David burn. It's like you fuck off. You're not fooling anyone That's obviously a no Gallic a song although it did The fact that he'd already released it contrary to what garine told us That does make it a little bit more shameless. I didn't say he recycled the melody for the round song You see that there's a song that David David Burns released a cover of an Olivia Rodrigo song. Yeah, I mean which song it is Is it driver's license? I don't I David but modern day David burn it does not does not appeal to me like A supremely talented man who just everything he does now just seems incredibly annoying What I found really amusing about it was that um from what I've seen on like tips, I can stuff like Olivia Rodrigo Fatton's like really hate it and I think Olivia Rodrigo was expecting that he'd get you know Because I think it came out of he had performed on stage with her. Yeah Yeah, and I think she was thinking he'd get some sort of respect She'd be introducing him to a new audience of the generations into it Yeah, and that's it Your audience is like this is the worst yeah, but he released some new song but I was like I'm not having that David David burn you song Yeah, there's a song called t-shirts written with Brian Eno So it's like I was like Eno and burn back together tell me more it's called t-shirt no thanks you know you know I'm saying you're more in a freaky teeth yeah yeah yeah why not teeth shirts that's what I'm saying yeah they're gonna be your next um do you still make like album shak you can call your next style t-shirt yeah but I have a no-galagous style approach to releasing them or I've just you know I just work on it for several years take a couple of years off you make you make someone else work on them yeah you put it in a drawer and you steal with a bit that you want to use yeah if I could get the amorphous androgynous to make a bunch of cool backing tracks for me if the problem is that for that's such a good joke for exclusively you and me and people that read our ISIS forums yeah and for everybody else it's nothing it's nothing I mean every pretty much every real politic joke is some variation on that just change your references around a little bit well you know people know know that no-galagal like to steal music off people so I mean there's not that's quite the story of stealing music he doesn't usually literally steal music from people in that way yeah no he usually takes a little bit of influence but it's not he's music as opposed to having someone make music for him and then steal it and then all the critics were like wow that's the best track on me out yeah the right stuff this is this is a radical new direction for no there's plenty of music for other people make but no it doesn't sound like no usual stuff but he's like yeah that's good in this case you just like right I'll add some vocals to it then but then you got bdi which is real music with real heart and soul yeah I've heard that but not any songs really was the issue what about um wigwam yeah no wigwam is my favorite people yeah it has a ridiculous name and yeah obviously like wigwam wigwam is not referenced in the song as far as I'm aware Liam repeats over and over again I'm coming I'm cuff I'm just part a partial quote yeah all right he says oh for swell yeah technically true yeah yeah he did all right yeah you know they got some good ones kill for a dream um and that's kind of we've ended up for so go around for we were talking about Welsh music I thought we were talking about why is this jack for let's talk about bdi it says on Andy Bell's Wikipedia that he's Welsh does it no it doesn't no it says like Andy Bell is a Welsh musician is it that Andy Bell yeah I'm not talking about the erasure guy that's for fucking sure yeah look Andy Bell brackets Welsh musician he's just great is this your work no I would play the one of the Gallagher brothers as well not both of them just one of them that would be funny or anything no and she means he's from I like ride with him Oxford isn't they I just just changed his from Oxford well he's he's definitely full they do occasionally let Welsh people out of Wales close the borders we need a kind of 28 years later situation I think we're it's just Wales that's but isolated way the UK is you know then we can contain them the Jimmy Savall copycat menace sure they're all in Wales yeah no it's fucking his name's Andrew Piran Bell this can't that's what Piran's very corner she's not what is that a sure that's not Welsh that sounds Welsh to me Piran all right Piran how do you think of Welsh musician yes extremely Cornish born born in Cardiff Wales all right I never this is all new this is this is completely new information to me oh it's he's if he's from Cardiff he's not Welsh yes that's what yeah he's not clean Welsh I think he lived in Sweden for quite a long time didn't he yeah he did which is sort of the Wales of Scandinavia an hour ago it was Russia wasn't it I guess it's it's sort of Russian Russian Welsh Chinese it's it can be many things at one time Sweden contains multi-shoots that criticises mass immigration to Sweden speaking of the Chinese I know you're all thinking Chinese and what's got something to do with it Chinese needs got something to do with it but do we reckon that the Oasis live 27 tour we'll we'll go to China will will the Chinese government rescind no Gallagher's ban from appearing on Chinese soil did they play as well I think we talked about it last time did they play in China in 2009 in the end no the Chinese government like no Gallagher is a political enemy of China so I thought they did play I thought they did play in China this time already because and one of liums as we were getting discussed like Liam's 20 years or lack their option at all and because I because Liam had posted and it's just a direct quote this is not something I would say I thought when they announced the Chinese show or show yeah he had posted Ching Chong and then people got really people got really annoyed with it and I remember that now he just posted that of his own volition there wasn't anything to do with any dates in China there's just what was I thought it was about I thought it was just you was just posting some I like I don't know what he was doing Jack you are generally a reliable source but I don't I don't trust anything I hear on his podcast I'm going yeah that's that you are a reliable source you are the first person in history to say that I thought he literally made that he's literally been reported in some of the papers of record for spreading fake news and boasting about it I think I was just a fake news here and no Chinese days South Korea South Korea China same oh yeah yeah they're so similar aren't they horse these people they're all the same right they're separated by by one piece of land yeah but yeah it's a lot more public much like this one of the whales we are we are sort of talking we're talking about Liam Gallagher so it's I think it's probably equally possible he was talking about Japan and not not not completely kind of out of the question that you might have been talking about Mexico yeah someone ever looked pretty damn Chinese if you ask me out but I'm sure it was in relate I'm sure it was in relation to like some shows getting announced I wish that we'd got the fucking support act for Japan at the British dates it was it was Asian Kung Fu generation and Otoboki Beaver I'm not familiar with them but I either in fact but I take them over solo Richard Ashcroft so Richard Ashcroft at the show it worked for what it was he did he did very much the same as Oasis in that the only like late yeah it was um do you remember break the night with color which I think now 2005 maybe no idea that was the latest song in play and I think the rest was probably all verb yeah but then I'm just like well maybe he could get it if I'm paid to yeah and he didn't play his new hit single lover yeah according to I looked it up and apparently lover was played as an intro tape but I wasn't in my seat at the time so I cannot confirm didn't he add it to the set list do you know what if if we listen to that fucking dumb shit that Gamacher did let's play a bit of that no no no come on yeah no no I think yeah I felt like the context of just how it's good to hear like you know bit as we symphony is probably as good a warm up for Oasis as you're gonna get and it's great to hear that but I think you need to understand just how important it is that he didn't play any of his recent material yeah I mean literally it come out like at that time right yeah I even was current it wasn't even like it was his most recent album it was literally he had the single out at the time and like didn't play it because presumably because everybody would hate it I might be wrong but I think he added this song to the set list after a couple of shows I mean don't don't quote me on that but I'm gonna look up Richard Ashcroft on set list FM now yeah so the night I went was the third of August and he wasn't playing it then it was all yeah so going to what I'm reading it was all birth apart from breaking the night of color which I think it might have been like 2002 breaking the night of color it was it was definitely early Ashcroft was like like yeah sorry I had that like song for lovers song on my set list or whatever yeah that was his first solo hit it's only so it's only so what you're laughing about he looks like such a tit man (laughing) - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I just think he's a joke. - He did do like an interview where he said stuff for like he was like the only one that could be our racist opening acts for this tour. - I'm not in the sound of this, but I feel like I fucked up by telling him. - Who should have just put it? - Yeah, enjoy your peace. - Oh yeah, I'm the jealous type. - Ashcroft was one of the ones that was very, he wouldn't do festivals post COVID immediately because of like a vaccine mandate. ♪ I'm a target in there, did you ♪ - Oh wow. - Yeah, and I was told, like potential liable, I was told that Liam was minded the same way, but basically caved because people persuaded him that yeah, you know, the money's doing this. And like offer people are getting vaccinated. - Yeah, Liam did plenty of festivals. So I'm looking at Richard Ashcroft's set list stats. It seems like he played lover, he played a snippet of lover at Heaton Park between Lucky Man and Sonnet. I don't know what that was. - I'm sure that was, I'm really well. - Yeah, all the hits. - One of the songs he came here to see you, hey, some absolute shit. - It's being one of all the back-in-angre Liam Rees of Poein. (laughing) - Yeah, I've still got hair on here this and I'm happy enough with you. - Really? I thought I shared sound. Oh, we just, have I just got you guys watching Richard Ashcroft? - Yeah, I agree. (laughing) - It's disturbing, but it's still significantly better than if it was sound. - No, it's an experience. - Back to the start of the fucking song then. - No, we're not, what? - Fuck off, man. - It's green. - You'll just have to edit it in. - Nah, nah, we got it, it's cool. Shit. (upbeat music) - Oh, then the nuclear explosion we got here. (laughing) - It's very exciting. - It's like, it's watching it like. - I love it. - Ashcroft is watching the nuclear explosion light. Doesn't face me. (laughing) - I'm praying you for a nuclear explosion with this plane. (laughing) - That spiritual thing. (laughing) ♪ In the back of my heart ♪ ♪ That's the name ♪ ♪ Fuck you, love of you ♪ - What was his inspiration with this song? Like what sound does he try to get? - It was such a joke, you're seeing the hate originality. - Yeah, oh yeah, it's the most original shit I've ever heard for sure. - Yeah, I think this man is invented. It's like he's done, he's combined pop music with synthesizers, some kind of genre based around those two con seats. - Woohoo, talking about my lover. Woohoo. - Yeah. - Woohoo, shout. - I mean, to say that he was the only act that could have opened for a racist, is it kind of a bit hyperbolic maybe? - Yeah, I think it is. - Of course, it's very tough. - Yeah, but I mean, he's in like a bit of sweet symphony and then Sonny and drugs don't work and stuff before a racist. It certainly works. - Son of a thing who I would have preferred. - I don't think well again. I think it's well again about it. Like I say, it literally was like a, it might as well have been beyond a couple of songs, not even like he said. When Liam did his tours and did never have and stuff like he got, and I believe was sort of convinced to have quite diverse acts. Joe Michael Kewernuka, is that what it's saying? - Yeah, rings a bell. - Yeah, he's good and he was on like, Nedworth, Bill, for Liam. - Yeah, it was fat white family. - Liam. - Yeah, and goat girl. (laughing) - What the fuck? - I'll never attend. - That's the kind of bastard off Spring Wales is producing at the moment. - The end is goat girls. - I was told, but yeah. So I was told at the time that basically it, that was a sort of, you know, the record company thing was it, it's a diversity thing. We get lots of diverse things. - Yeah, it's where I think it was D.I. - I was just literally just fuck it. We pretended it's 1996. - Now there was none of that like for woke guitars, woke rearrangements that you get with no Gallagher's high flying birds or any of that. - Yeah, I hate it when he does stuff like that. - I guess we had for woke drumming. That was a bit of a, just, - I don't know if that drumming was woke. (laughing) - Kind of shit. - It was a broke, broke as hell. - The one thing he did do I spoke again, nobody's interested in this. But what woke acquiesce is Liam sang the actual words to acquiesce. ♪ I hope that I can say that things are which I said ♪ ♪ So sing my songs to sing for baby that today ♪ ♪ You'll want to be alone ♪ ♪ I hope that we can be a perfect set ♪ - Oh yeah, I was trying to think well. - Well, it was very, very, very long. - Yeah, I thought I was trying to think of getting the reality in the set, basically. It was pretty hit, it's focused set. - It was incredibly hit, it's focused set. I mean, you didn't expect like, I don't know, better man. - Not the Ruby Williams song of the same name. - Actually, this is one of the things that I had messaged you before. It's like sometimes you see on social media and on forums and stuff, particularly. And this is true of anybody. People will write their dreams set list. And it's like, who is that interesting too? - They also, they don't have, these people, they don't have any idea of like, how you structure a set list. Like I saw one where, where hey now was the first song. Which is like the most good idea. - Yeah, good idea. - It was downer of a song on What's The Story. Imagine it's like, you go through the track list of What's The Story Morning Glory and pick out the one song that like, people don't give a fuck about. Apart from, I guess they used to open shows with the Swamp song and even fewer people give a fuck about that. But the Swamp song is instrumental, it's cut, it was the fucking and the bushes of its day. - So, somehow, always this tribute band still do that, 'cause the big thing is Liam walk on the stage, right? - Yeah. And that's how I used to play it. They had gotten the stage to play Swamp song and it builds to the. So, I think that's a good idea, because it gives you, you get the moment of the band walking onto the stage and people go crazy. And then you also get the second mind when Liam walks onto the stage. So, to me, that works. And I did wonder if they might have done that for this, actually. - Yeah, no. - Well, fucking. - Yeah, no. - Fucking the bushes. - Fucking the bushes was the only song of a little by little from after 2000, the set. - Little by little. - I thought having already derided this is a boring subject. I thought, as a proper hardcore fan, I felt like I would have wanted it to be a bit different, but actually, I would have got rid of Roll with it. And. - No, no, no, no, I'll love it. - Whatever, just 'cause I don't think it's ever really worth. And also, people never really know the words to whatever, because they're so sort of. I believe that everyone knows the words to whatever, but I don't believe anyone knows them in the right order. - Yeah, I mean, so it just becomes a bit awkward. Because again, I've been listening to that song for 30 plus years, and I still can get all the words in right order. - I know what you mean, whatever it is, but tricky. But yeah, also, I just don't think it. That was one of one's gameplay to lead on. And it just kind of like. It was like he didn't wanna like overplay as much as Nol did on the original, but it just meant that it kind of was missing something. Wasn't that he was playing badly, he was a very good guitarist, but it's like, "Oasis songs don't need understatement." You gotta be fucking having it. - Yeah. - I think the only glaring miss for me, I think it was probably like, to stop crying your heart out. - Can I say, on our last Oasis episode, I said that they should just play loads of stuff from the first two albums, so like, exactly from the third one. That's exactly what they did. And I am the Oasis whisperer. - Well, you also said they were break up after Fortnite. (laughing) - Like, you fucking idiot. - I'm not by over percent, but you know, it's better to swing for the fences twice and hit one home run, and to just like. I don't know. - He posted about spreading fake news. - I made a mixed set of predictions. But the set list one was spot on, and everyone loved it. - I said at the time, I thought that the lead set list was faked, because I couldn't see them not playing the importance of being idle, 'cause I think Noel may have literally played that at every show since it was released. - Yeah. - And to be honest, I've, it's good on the records. I've never particularly enjoyed here in it live. - No, no, it doesn't happen. I've been on being there, but that's what made me feel. I thought the lead set list was faked, basically, 'cause I was convinced that would be in there. And it wasn't. It was partly just because of having something from towards the end. - Yeah. - Maybe like Lila or that. Like I said, they just went all in on just f*cking nostalgia. - Well Lila and Stop crying your heart out are both in the category of like literally, there are no good live performances of them by Liam on record. - Yeah. - I don't know if maybe there's one on an audience recording somewhere that I just haven't checked out, but in terms of, of the Oasis shows I've heard, that there's not a precedent for him performing those songs well. There was some of stop crying your heart out earlier on that at least fine. Yeah, and also again, it's one of the ones that would be so fucking loud. Yeah, you wouldn't. You'd have, I don't know how many times I'd heard them before me, it probably at least five I'd have thought, and at no point today I ever think, no, that sounded terrible. Yeah, but then I would, I would have said that like, oh, or some might say probably won't make the set list because Liam's always struggled with that. They played that every night. So, maybe there were reasons again, like nerd shit that only me and Jack will care about at all. Towards the end of the Oasis, they played some might say in 2002 and they dropped the key, um, so it was lower for Liam to sing it and the same move to know what I mean. And they played both of those songs and they played the both in their original key. Because I think you're putting the key down, they'll lose a little bit of their power. I kind of fucking nerd shit. I like, you know, I like to know what I mean, played lower, I think, because it feels menacing. Oh yeah, okay. Yeah, it makes sense. Yeah, I like that with the, particularly when it's got a lot of the sort of piano behind it as well, when it hits the chords and the pianos and stuff, it sounds kind of menacing. Yeah. It definitely loses, you lose a bit of sort of life. Yeah, I know. Technical musical terms. I was kind of surprised that bring it on down made for set list, because it's not a hit or anything and Liam played it for the whole of his definitely maybe tour. But, you know, I mean, obviously I like hearing that song. It's fucking banging tune. I think they both love that. Yeah. And fade away obviously has a bit of that punk rock energy as well. It was cool hearing them harmonise again on fade away or Casino Shadow or, it would have been cool hearing from harmonise on the chorus of Stan By Me. If Liam didn't just like back away from the mic and let the crowd see it on every fucking recording I heard. Stan By Me. It's great to go with you. Stan By Me. Nobody knows the way it's gone again. That was a bit that got me like, say when we both watched it online, didn't we? The Cardiff one. Yeah. And in Hello. Obviously Liam has played Hello many times since, but it's not I have amazing harmonies or anything. It was just the sound of the two of them together again. Yeah, they just, they see. That's the moment when he, yeah, that probably got me. When they sing in unison at the end, it's good to be by the Gary Glitter bit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was a bit, that was a bit of a response. Red will of the glitter. Yeah, it was cool show man. There wasn't too much to complain about. I think they have rockin in the free world by Manninge and that was the last one before fucking the bishops. Just before fucking the bishops is exactly which, you know, I think that's the point of agreement between both brothers that they think Neil is cool as fuck. So again, yeah, I appreciate that. I feel a bit sorry. Look, I think I accidentally misled you a little bit at the end about how, because sometimes you can just get a ticket for something in the last minute and you should just go and I thought maybe I'd be able to and then when I looked, that was probably not going to happen. And I apologise if I made it seem like you would have done because it was amazing. Honestly, I was very skeptical about it beforehand. I never wanted it to happen. I used to argue with the old bastard about it. He was like, oh, he's about to get it. And I was like, oh, I don't really want them to. And yeah, it was amazing. And I hope that people do get the chance, some or whatever to do it. But again, I still hope it kind of stays as what it is. Well to increase for likelihood of maybe some of our dealers getting to the shows, would you like to before we go share the horse method with everyone? Yeah, so the horse method doesn't necessarily help you get the tickets. But what the horse method does is it lowers the price rate. Obviously, sign up for pre sales or that stuff. So the way that it ended up costing me, so I live in Sheffield. I went to COasis in London at Wembley and I stayed in the hotel directly opposite Wembley stadium. So literally, it's right outside the window. And it cost me less than £300 in total. I think a lot of people just paid £300 for ticket. That's crazy, yeah. Obviously, I've, you know, restarted, I got on the pre sale and that was pre dynamic pricing and all that stuff. So I got in that that was good luck. I suppose, but anything else. But I was going, got all the tickets I could for the hotel. Now, this is the real essence of the horse method. What you do with the hotels, you need, you do need a bit of upfront money. As soon as they get announced, you book a cancelable night in the travel lodge or the primary in on every night that you might get a ticket for. Oh, shit. Right. So I had like five nights or something, but in this primary in directly outside Wembley stadium. And the night that I got, I paid about 90 pounds for. And obviously, then you just cancel the ones you didn't get a ticket for. So I paid about 90 pounds. And when I looked on like the day that the tickets actually went on sale, it was 300. Yeah, okay. You say you wait until you've got the tickets. Then that's your problem. You do need a certain amount of upfront money to be able to make the bookings that you're then going to cancel later. But I have used this methods for other things as well. And I've got like several nights in travel lodges booked for room. My other thing, do you meet Taylor Swift? No, because Taylor Swift is not touring at the moment. Oh, yeah. You know, one day we do Taylor Swift episode. Who's dates have you said you booked booked? Room of Ace of States for this song. What's over? Okay, yeah. Room. So I don't think that'll happen now. It just seems like it would have come out by now, surely. I guess Neil announced his corn wool show for that simple summer. You just announced that. But yeah, Oasis is like bigger business. They would probably announce a bit more in advance, I think. Well, I've got like basically like a week of nights, but in the travel lodge down the road from Man City Stadium at like £40 a night for the room. It nights of the Oasis might do it, which I'll then obviously cancel. Assume it doesn't happen. And then the other thing is obviously you do a might and Lewis thing with trains. You get your split tickets. I went first class on the train for like 30 quid or something from Sheffield. So I first class stayed outside the stadium and my ticket for Oasis all for less than £300 using the horse method. And the horse method, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah. And the people sitting in front of me, shoveling co-cup there, nose all night, probably paid £300 for their tickets and £300 for co-cook. Yeah, who knows how much for co-cook. Exactly. Here in that I thought of a turbo horse method for if you're like super rich, right? Go on then. If you've somehow got loads of money in the bank, right? What you do is basically exactly what a horse describes except you book every room at the travel lodge, every single one. You then brag about it online and get people to like, hey you, you tell the room. You book the room for to cancel the room booking. Yeah. Or you book the stadium for the other nights. The hour I speak in New York. You book the stadium and basically squawks on that. So they have to give you a hotel and you're travelling in order to release the stadium. Yeah. If they need it for the to be a certain purpose for like licensing laws, just get Mike Flowers pop, see it be cheap. You get him on the blower to do like, always the show. Yeah, the nightmare is later. Yeah, good good good. You're like, you're signed up for it. You have to, you have to put on some kind of show in the stadium. Yeah. The nightmare scenario. That is. I put on the history of Welsh music like Tom Jones, Rachel Stamp, Jack America. Jack, do you ever want to play Wembley? Yeah, I'd be doing the history of Welsh music. You could. You could support. playing Sarriophonics, who people in it's literally do. Still going to see in stadiums. They could support me, I think. That's my condition. Yeah, they wouldn't want to follow me, you know. That would just be too much for them to handle. Examuches. Anyway, so come to City of Manchester Stadium, 2027 for a history of Welsh music with Jack Greenery. I get to decide the set list, but Jack gets to decide, like, make full choices about arrangements and how we interpret some. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there'll be some novel arrangements for you for me. Can I have to do a well-earned? You're by the manics. I only want to hear you do their shit single, all well-earned. Oh yeah, I'll do all well-earn. I'll do, come on, Wales. Yes. I'll do for John Kale's song about when the guy from Soft Machine fucked his wife. Jack is not allowed to tweet for the duration of the entire day. So you've done it less to get your cast on. Tyre Tom Jones cover album, Jack's now going to cover those covers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'll do sex for him. Burning down the house. Tom Jones version, the Jack Freyne Read version. Is that the one he did? Is one of Kerry Smurf users on that? Wasn't she? What sex? I think she probably. No, that one. Is that a cover, by the way? I don't think it is, is it? I've actually heard that. She has to talk about sex. So it was technically a duet album, so there were a couple of original. So he did, right? Burning down the house with the cardigans, right? That was one of the signals. Yeah, remember that class. Mama told me not to come with the stereo file. Oh. Fucking hell. That was one of those things as well. He's just got an edge and edge and edge. Yeah. If you could, 'til it just falls off. Tom Jones has been an edge in for 50 years. Just to see what it is, long life. On how you might as advice. Are you going to go my way with Robbie Williams? Great. Oh my god, he's probably really important. He's a poor head cover. Right, yeah. Suddenly afternoon with Spakes. That is like last day's of Brit Pop. He's a fucking space. They're well. Oh no, they didn't pull. They're scouts, are they well? Yeah, yeah, they're the same thing. They're Brit Pop, but they weren't in on the Brit Pop conspiracy because the city of Liverpool's mind concluded. That can be for your sequel, the history of Scouts Pop, which will be more justifiable. That's fine, make more likely by an order of magnitude to have you murdered. Whoever murdered pop music coming from Liverpool, ridiculous. Track 6, he covers the Elvis song. I'm left, you're right, she's gone with James Dean Bradfield. I, and here I am. It's not for a good start. Waiting for a pate witty centrist party. You ever? Yeah. Sex bomb with Moose Tea. That's the only original on the album. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Wow. You need love like I do by Gladys Knight in the Pips, but with Heather Small from the M people. All right. But from the small piece. 1998 thing possible. Heather M from the small people. Picking. There's a re-recording of one of his own hits on his own. That's not a duet. Oh no, with James Taylor Gordell. Oh, James Taylor. Sometimes we cry. Now we're talking about the crime by Van Morrison. With Van Morrison. Yes. Yes. That's the out of the book. That's the out of music, so it's what. Yeah. You don't have to shit about Van Morrison clearly. I love the life. I love the life with the pretenders. Oh, that's cool. I'd listen to that. Tom Jones. Little green flag. With Ben A. Kid Lady. All right. Now that's a bit lame ass. If you ask me. Ain't that a lot of love with Simply Red? Well, Span Simply Red. Fuck off. Proper Manchester band. He walked so Oasis could run. Well, before he played briefly in the Stone Roses and then for Ian Brown Solo, Aziz Ibrahim was the guitarist for Simply Red. Fun fact. Probably easy money. Manchester. He was like a session guitarist, wasn't he? It was the thing. Yeah, yeah. I think he was amazing. I saw him support. It was either Ian Brown or maybe Supergrass. I think it was Ian Brown. And like, dog shit music. But he was just like playing guitar with his teeth and stuff. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's an insane guitarist. And thanks to my spacker stuff. It was just unbelievably skilled man. Probably let somebody else write your songs. Ian Brown. The carist, the carist Matthews couple was baby as cold outside. Yeah. The blocs in my memory. But now I can remember. Fifth. Is there anything else? Is that it? It does traditional song, "Motherless Child with Portus Hades." "Never Terrace Apart" by Alex S with Nalyan Brulia. And she drives me crazy with a Zuckaro. Honestly, that's a bit. It's a Italian bloke. There must be at least three listenable tracks on that. That's not that bad for like an album. I can't remember. None of the ones I can remember are listenable. Oh, wow, okay. I'm on Wikipedia. I'm on Wikipedia. I'm on Wikipedia. Apparently I've looked at the Wikipedia pages for all of Tom Jones' post 1994 albums. What's this one? Probably on a past that person. How many are there? It's quite a few. Lots. Now some of them have very tasteful cover selections. Like this one has got. Yeah, that was his only big. The one with just his only big swing for the mainstream. Wasn't that in that time? The rest of them, he's just putting them out to all the grandmas. Yeah, because I remember. I've got some of these album covers, fucking hell. Look at the. 1994's "Delayed and How to Swing It." "Were it?" That's. That's "Wells Cliff Richard" level album cover. What is that? Oh, okay, that's a woman. We're in a helmet. What the fuck? I was like, what's that creature? That's "Delayed and How to Swing It." Yeah. God, no, no. God. Hang on. So, his album. I wasn't sure he'd get Torey, I must have played on that one. His album, "After Reload" is primarily written with Wyclef John from "The Foogeys." And Jerry De Pleesys is also a Foogeys affiliate. So, yeah, okay, he went. He went Foogey on that one. 24 hours. Wait, what is this? That. I sound a bit well-stead. 24 hours. That doesn't sound well, just at all. I've sounded more well-stead when you weren't doing it in the well-stead. That's as well as it gets, I think. He does a Bruce Springsteen one and this one. He does a song called "Sugar." Does a song written by Bono and the Edge? I know. On that too, there's no way to do it. "Sugar Daddy." Yeah. Sure to be good. There's a Bruce Springsteen one called "The Hitter." But I just called it "The Traitlist" and read it as "The Hitler." That's like five or eight times. Yeah, that's a cover. It's a song about a boxer. It's on "Devil's and Dust," I think. Yeah, but no, you go to his 38th studio album from 2010, "Praise and Blame." And it's produced by Ethan Jones and it's got a really tasteful selection of covers. It's like, it's dealing on there and Billy Joe Shaever and Staplesingers. It's just the result of. Yeah, this is a good song. Yeah, some traditional stuff. I bet it still crap. Oh, no, I doubt it. I think his voice has held up quite a bit, you know? More than you think for his age, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's got "Gilly Welch and Dave Rawlings" on it. "Ben Montench plays on. " Oh, Jeremy Stacey of "Nolgalegas High Flying Birds." Yeah, he's like, who left "Nolgalegas High Flying Birds" to join "King Crimson," which is such a strange career move, I think. Yeah. And "Spiritschia Jack." That's something we never mentioned is that he wasn't always subsequent, or I wasn't he, um, Chris Sharick. I think you had told me that he had said that basically his offer to play on the Oasis tour is opposed to Joey Wanker. It was derisory. Yeah, yeah, that's it. I think basically, well, it said so in this book I've got called "Galagher," which was one of many, many Oasis biographies rushed out to coincide with the tour. But yeah, it said for Basis Wink. It's not Paulo Huet, I'm not interested. It said basically that "No, you know, wasn't paying him that much in the High Flying Birds anyway." And when he saw how much he'd get to join the Oasis tour, he was like, "No, thank you. I'm going home." That's why they got Joey Wanker into the mix. I assume you might be familiar with "I'm Scheme Jack Wilby." There's a book about the Beatles called "Revolution in the Head." Yeah, I've got a breakdown. Yeah, breakdown. Basically every Beatles song and everything about it. Someone last year, Ted Kessler, I want to say. So it's certainly Kessler. I also have that book over there. Yeah, it sort of attempts a similar thing with Oasis. But the problem with it is that all the stuff at the beginning, there's loads of information about. And when you get to the B-sides from the last album, it literally just says, "This is a song that has a guitar in it." There's just not only information about it. It's just, yeah. Like, I guess like Beatles probably remains sort of interesting from that perspective to the end in a way that Oasis didn't. I've actually just read like a 550-page poem about and with the sort of semi-approval of the Manics, scored by 168 songs of hatred and failure. And it's like, obviously that's about half the songs they've ever done. So it's like, it's going to decorate with like representative songs and stuff. And it's got lots of new info in it from James and Nikki Wire. Sean Moore doesn't seem to have bothered to contribute, which is extremely on-brand and funny. But like, there's loads of stuff that's like biographical about what was going on for like all the early pre-album stuff. the first few albums they're talking a lot about who what doesn't work as well like why the studio, the Daker generation terrorist associate fascinating information like Holy Bible they select 12 of the 13 songs on it to be like the exam and in it and all this and then they get to the later albums and it's like they'll be like one single off each one that there's like enthusiastic and they're talking about and the rest they'll be like oh this is just sort of what I was going for with the sound here or yeah we got this guy to do a duet on it he was nice yeah I think I'm this the racist one so I think Liam likes this guy I'm gonna say his name is Ted Kessler whether it's that's his name or not I think Liam liked him I think he did like the interviews for supersonic with Liam or did some interviews for that the film and therefore Liam liked him but I think there was no new information as far as I could tell in this book at all and I think if you'd ask Liam about any of it he went in the studio and sang the song on left yeah like and even songs he's written himself he wouldn't remember stories behind them and stuff he just doesn't care enough I don't think his point is get on the stage well yeah listen to Liam know you know about all of it but you know they think it yeah it's this guy who I'm gonna say is called Ted Kessler I think that's right but I think also like the yeah the man X book had contributions from the band members whereas this yeah this guy wouldn't have had much value really if it didn't yeah and there is loads of it in like old old like DVDs and stuff like I said there was that definitely maybe DVD where they talk about songs and there's lots of like DVDs and you know and stuff over the years and articles where you could get loads information about older voices songs and you can make it you know put together a piece of the interesting story about but yeah the thing actually what they probably should have done is picked out the key bits and not insist on going song by song because by the time he gets the end they're not interesting songs and there's no information about him. You hear Liam talking about the songs he wrote back in the days I was just like you know I fucking yeah I'm fucking song about my fucking bird didn't I it's called so I called it song bird so it's not it's not it's not a fucking big thing you know just get you just I just fucking wrote a song and that's that so I don't I don't know how much information there's to be gleaned from that book necessarily but I did I did pick up a copy of that I haven't got around to reading the game largely because logic has horse put me off it with his yeah I think I've already sent you some pictures of fake yeah it's amazing how I've ended up being the one that's sick about everything now yeah but I I want to believe man yeah I spent a very I spent a very long time believing in things that were kind of maybe partially delivered but they're not just crushed your heart to such an extent but it's like yeah I feel that's what happened like no broke your heart and now you're just always on your guard because in case you get burned again there's only so many times like I think it's different maybe if you're looking back and you weren't there but yeah when you were there every time reading the article about it's the best album they've made since definitely maybe you know you've been going to song by song so it sounds like this fucking doesn't you go through that sort of how recycled after I've been recycled after I've been recycled well I think it's been good talking oasis with you guys but we we should we should call it a night actually I've got two I've got two things I want to say before the end and being that would you know what episode number is this do you know I can't remember what is something and yeah obviously you were you were going to stop this in the last year I don't know when you are going to stop it now yeah we will we will we'll we'll all soon but I promised I'd deliver a few more episodes and I feel obliged to do so we just we just didn't manage to do it by the end of 2025 as as also promised comedy podcast and everything aside and that stuff most podcast I suspect probably don't make it beyond three or four episodes I would say you have become an institution of the online left and like again completely ironically anything up you know yeah you're mental institution and look at the success mark you say you say this right going to help me on my British left look being being serious I think about some of the people who had on over the years and all that stuff and like I know it's hard to end it all that stuff but you should be incredibly proud of what you've done is what I'm saying thank you for that I mean anything like that like both you everything and your contribution to stuff has been amazing and things are fizzled out to an extent because like life's got shitty it's not reflection anywhere that you've done over the years yeah thank you the love of Bud Gaster like yeah you're obviously like yeah yeah and everybody else or your previous house and over the it's not that stuff as well like you have done something absolutely amazing here and I know it's sad but you should really be massively packing yourself on back and you should be proud of it you really should be I'm sorry sorry to be very very sincere no I'm glad I'm glad that we could provide a platform for your Oasis expertise in our dying days yeah on a slightly less sincere matter you have consistently refused to do the Taylor Swift episode but I've asked you to get the button as opposed I love it well go right it gets worse than that what I've done so if you're out this episode what you haven't realised is this is a Taylor Swift episode because I've named one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve eight fourteen fifteen six sixteen eighteen twenty twenty one Taylor Swift song tuners and what I hadn't anticipated would happen was that I would be able to get you to name Taylor Swift song tuners yeah she did multiple times oh what even so so even other than the ones that I deliberately named but yeah well obviously that was just right make you name Taylor Swift songs although the story is true but yeah that was to make you name Taylor Swift songs and but the other one which I hadn't anticipated which I managed to get in there was getting you to play lover by Richard Ashcroft which is of course another name or any of the other songs any Dalban yeah sort of the rest of it I was with any excuse any excuse that's it so I'm slightly disappointed by my numbers they're actually in the end because I did have a list of ones I thought I could have gotten there I could just like shouting them now but yeah that is what I did in my event for you refusing to do the Taylor Swift episode. I was going to do the edit with like Taylor Swift this time for you wikipedia up and he's just going to bleed for anything that sounds like Taylor's with the softest of it. I'll just be like yeah yeah sorry sorry for all the beeps guys horse just said the n words so much I don't know what came over him. He's bringing back the marga Taylor Swift conspiracy yeah yeah well if anyone wants to write into the show and say that they spotted all the Taylor Swift song references then what I love the one I really like in my in my finders in the audience too late to matter but the one I really really wanted because it seemed so difficult to get in was I was hoping if we talked about Chloe 22 from Stockport again that was how that was it right I reckon I could have gotten a Chloe or Sam or the fear or Marcus. We've got that was my white way out of this one. But we've got a closer how often we're allowed to talk about like individual about two year old girl we can get away with it once if it's relevant if we don't people start looking at us funny. I don't I don't think Chloe's real I think she's sort of like that purple head imaginary girlfriend to the right have created she's like a woke example of that where she's a composite right yeah my sister's Chloe 20 see from Stockport but it's just happened that she was from Lancaster and she's famous can you get me an autograph anyway so oh ACIS they're back and it's been it's been a resounding success everyone loves them again they they've reclaimed they've reapplied for the position of the biggest band in the world oh Liam that was him that was him that was him that was him that was him that was him and no you've got optimistically a couple of weeks before this gets edited and released you've got the opportunity to do the single funniest thing. Speaking of you too I just remembered a story that Noel told which is that apparently Wella was always just like saying to Noel like are you two are you fucking having that and Noel would be like yeah they're great I want my favourite bands and well I'd be like fuck off fucking rubbish then like Noel was like on a holiday with Bono and they like went out of for dinner with Elton John and Noel knew that that would wine Wella up so he took a picture of him all together and texted it to Wella and Wella was texting back like he got too far this time but then like years later it was like the cure wards and Noel kind of like arranged it so that he'd be sitting at a table with both Bono and Wella. Noel was pulling the strings yeah Noel was pulling the strings. So Wella was the targeted individual in this case. Yeah so he got a selfie with like Bono and Wella and then Noel went to his local news agent so he like knows both him and Wella and the guy was like, "Alright mate, Wella was just in here, you know?" He was saying he met Bono at the Q-Words. He was like, "Oh, really?" And the news agent was like, "Yeah." He said he's a lovely bloke. And then Noel called up Wella and he was like, "Oh, really? Let me see about this." And Wella was like, "Yeah, yeah, he's a fucking good bloke, can you hear me? I can't f*ck it." So Wella's icy heart was melted by meeting Bono in the flesh. Yeah. Wella should be in the operative word, f*ck, you know. I mean, do you think that will happen now? Given. I mean, they seem to have quite a bit of a confusion on what the sh*t would have happened. Yeah, given Bono is a bit sh*t, liberal Zionist and Wella's a heroic freedom fighter. Yeah, maybe not, but I just like the exaggerated version of Wella's portrayed on the Noel Galka mat Morgan podcast. "Rish, you f*cking avid, nah?" "You f*cking. you f*cking can't, aye, you f*cking genocide mate." "F*ck, that's a big bag of sh*t in it, f*cking f*cking apartheid mate, what you wanna bet?" "I'm a sh*t me Noel has simply never expressed an opinion." Yeah, no, no, no, no. Noel has never weighed in on, like, Israel and Palestine except, except, to complain about all the Palestine flags at Glastonbury and even then he did, did it direct. I dunno, he didn't directly say "Palestine." He was just talking about flags. It was just part of a wider rant about how "Woke" Glastonbury had got, and that must have been, like, 2023, just before, uh, probably when the reunion was being planned. Okay. So he, yeah, wouldn't want to affect the bottom line by getting too controversial there. But we know, you know, Noel doesn't have much time for the "Woke" mind virus. No. He's a hitherto young man. The "Welch mind virus." Right, so I'll play this thing, so all you like, in playing that it is anti-woke to be anti-welch, that's what I've always been saying, really. Um, well good, good, um, because "Go woke, go broke, go Welsh, go, um, be a cunt." That's what they say. That's what they say in the, in the streets. In England, yeah. Yeah, the English streets when we're out protesting with Tommy. That's what we say when we're outside the migrant hotels, I assume full of Welsh people trying to get English citizenship. Right, before I just riff myself into a corner, like, let's actually go, yeah. Couple of hours later, but I've got that, yeah. Or what, what was the thing? Uh, and uh, uh, end of the day, that is it. That is it. That is it. So nice say. So nice say. So nice say. So nice say. On the bus, the day, on the day, on the train, on the train. So nice say. We will find the right day. So nice say. Yeah, that's how we started our best time, so, in the end of the day, catch it in the right. Yeah, no preparation, no registration, no registration, what's the good? Let's see if these water fishes, chase candidate, then she's on the train. It was all a boring time, but it's not a much, it's not a surprise. So nice say. So nice say. So nice say. So nice say. So nice say.