‘The Sure Thing’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan

The special edition of the rewatching balls brought to you by the ringer podcast network where you can find the watch with Chris Ryan. Yeah. I have something disturbing to tell you. I watched the watch in bed last night with my wife. The content shows. I did. I watched like the first 40 minutes of lying in bed. My wife was playing blockblast, just enjoying the chemistry of you and Indie Greenball. I tell you, a lot of, a lot of four play before you got to the actual top 10. Well, at the end of the year, we like a lot of fluff at the top. Okay. And then on the side going, come on guys, let's get to the way they put timestamps in these things for a reason. It's an honorable mention. Let's bring it up. Let's go. Let's go. Let's get to a show. Can I give you some constructive feedback? Right. At some point. I'm sure. I did enjoy the Kaya jokes. Yes. It was good that you brought her in. But great chemistry. Glad to see you guys still cranking it in all these years later. We owe it all to you. Craig Coralbeck. Craig Coralbeck. And the fantasy football season. Yeah. I'm knocked out of the Ranger League kind of devastated Chris Ryan's soul life. You're in the toilet bowl playoff, so yeah, me and Sean, you guys have a lot of complaints about this league. I thought we've handled it well. I think the league worked out great. I think the league was great. Yeah. And I don't know who to root for between Craig and Sean. So Craig, if you lose, what do you mind's easy? No caffeine for a week. If Sean loses, he has to wear a headband on an episode of the big picture and not address it. And with a director interview, right? We wanted to be with the director. That was not stipulated. I really want to get out to wear like a headband while he's talking to a park channel. Chloe's out. All right. Well, we don't normally do two rewatchables in a week, but we wanted to do a very special one this week. So we're going to do the short thing and it's next. 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Just pop up the volume this and was there a third one? Well, maybe this will bring it back. Okay. So rewatching it, the soundtrack's pretty, it's really popular, it's one of the reasons why it's not on streaming. But Rob Reiner, this was the second movie he directed and was tragically murdered on Sunday by his son. It looks like allegedly, but it seems like it was his son. But one of the worst Hollywood stories in a while, he was a beloved guy. He talked about him in your pot. I talked about him on top of my pot on Sunday. And we have done six rewatchables movies with him. We had not done this one, but we wanted to do a Reiner movie. So, we threw this together. I talked, the thing I said about him on Sunday was that he had these three different careers that were all pretty cool in their own ways, right? He's like this supporting actor on probably the second most famous 70s sitcom we had other than Mesh. Yeah. He's the son of Carl Reiner. And even that, and he could've just been an actor for 50 years. That would've been a cool career and everybody liked them. Then he becomes his director and has put together one of the best 15 year runs any directors ever had. Then he also on the side has this whole castle rock thing with this company that he creates independent outside the studio infrastructure. And he starts, you know, basically supporting voices that he cares about and it embeds on young talent because he knows young talent, which is the same thing he had in his movies. That ends up funding Seinfeld, which is the most successful backing I think in the history of anything. And was a beloved guy out here in Hollywood. So we felt like of all the directors, this is the seventh one. I think which puts them in third place. Yeah. There's only a couple of directors where we're like emergency pod. We got to do one. This is one of them. Yeah, this is five. And he has five or six in a row to start off his career that are locks for any, any like I would rewatchable any of those with you. I was, I thought it was really helpful to try to organize my thoughts about Reiner through the lens of this movie, which is, it's nice because like if you're trying to summarize that guy's entire contribution to entertainment and to like American cultural life, it's hard. But if you can just look at something as simple as a screw ball comedy like this, you can really see a lot of his specific skills and talents and gifts come through. Yeah, one of those gifts, which he, you know, he also applied with Seinfeld and some of the movies and TV shows that it did, which is great eye for talent, great eye for somebody's moment in their career. Just seeing something either potential that hadn't been realized or knowing the impact that they already had, which few good men's a good example of that, right? He catches crews at his apex. Yeah. He figures out that this is the perfect Nicholson part, convincing to do that and then populates that movie with all these really good younger actors or actors on the rise, like Kevin Bacon or semi-established. And you see all the clips they've been running like since the, since his passing, since his death on Sunday of people having these remembrances and it's like Kevin Bacon, in tears, talking about how like he needed a job. And like Reiner came through and got like, you know, no wily just being like, I'm on this, that shoot for like a, like a week or two. Yeah. And he basically makes me feel like I'm the most important person on that set. So just everybody seems to have this incredible, like connection to him. Yeah. Spine on tap. I mean, one of the things when you write down all the movies that he did and they're like the best plank. Spine on tap, which is the best music comedy ever made. And he taps in with these three guys who, you know, had had, we're known in comedy circles. But Christopher Guest wasn't really Christopher Guest yet. Shears in that. McKean, he had, he was known from Laverne and Shirley basically, but he gets in with those guys early and it ends up being what it is. Princess Bride, he's in with Goldman at this point. Yeah. And right, all the people he cast and that, that ends up being in the running for a best non-animated fairytale movie, probably ever. Oh, sure. It's one of the first ones. It might be the best. I don't. Who's it competing against? It's also one of the most, like, beloved movies across generations. Yeah. How many movies are loved equally by seven year olds and 70 year olds? And how many movies you don't, doesn't even matter when it came out. Yeah. It's like that movie. I mean, Craig, when did you see that movie? As a kid. I've seen it a ton of times. Yeah. It's, there's certain movies that it just kind of came out in the 80s. You remember when it just keeps going, American president, we did that in the rewatchables too. In the running for best president movie, it's, for me, it's that and Dave in the finals, and I'd really have to, uh, have to target that. But that one he captures gets Douglas right at the tail end of his apex puts a net bending in there. Whole thing. Few good men best court movie, probably the best modern court movie, the court movie. There's some older ones that would have a case, but we've done that one twice. Misery, might be the best Steven King movie. It might be, it's up there with Shawshank. Yeah. Also, might be the best scary actress movie. Yeah. Uh, does that with Goldman stand by me? Probably the best preteen best friend's reputation. Yeah. Yeah. One of the best coming of age movies ever made ever. We're not only in the running for best romcom ever, but basically created the romcom, the modern version of it in 1989. It's from that moment on, every movie is chasing. Let's, let's try to pull this off like we're in that one. He identifies this Billy Crystal, Meg Ryan, not only the relationship, but both of them. Nobody thought Billy Crystal was going to be in a movie like that. Nobody thought Meg Ryan could play that character, basically a dying key thing. So he nails both the stand by me. He nails the River Phoenix, the way he casts that movie. You going through and it's just, he's had an eye and sure thing is maybe the ultimate example of that because he's in on this, he's sex 17. The whole story of this where they have to, he has to file for emancipation. And Roger Boehm has, like, adopted producer has to legally adopt him. He's like, I need this kid in the movie and he's still going. Let's talk a little bit if like you can't about like what, what are some of the things across those movies that jump out because the thing that hit me watching sure thing again is that he's able to take funny scenarios and make them feel very serious or very serious scenarios and see the humor in them. And that happens. Both of those things happen in the sure thing, right? Like, he's able to put these kids in such dire straits on this road trip and see the hilarity in it, but also their desperation. And it's like the same thing for stand by me. There's absolutely heartbreaking moments in stand by me and then he'll follow it up with a joke to kind of even the scales of the dramatic experience of the film going experience. And that's why I think we go back to these movies so many times is because he was able to see the totality of like human experience in any given scene and in any given story. And it's like even something that could have just been a super horny, forgettable 80s comedy that like you and I would be like, I know it's really good is that this is actually like a lost classic in a lot of ways. No question. I think a couple things, he was really good at pulling out exactly what you should like about somebody. Yeah. you know, like Billy Crystal, that's the best he's ever been in a movie when Harry met Sally, but Robin Wright is like just perfect and Princess Brad. In this movie, like, it's the most I've ever like Qsac in a movie. And to me, like Qsac in this movie, I had season tickets for the next 12 years just because of this movie. I loved him in this movie. Doing this and high fidelity in such close succession makes me realize, I think I've underrated the role that John Qsac played in like my try imagination over the over my entire life. Like, when you think about this one crazy summer, uh, better off dead saying anything, and then on and out. Yeah, all the way up through high fidelity. I'm like, yeah, from like 10 to 30, this guy was basically like, sort of North Star in my life. Yeah. And misery is another one where uh, Kathy Bates, who we didn't really have a history with and she just absolutely crushes it and is awesome. But that's weirdly a relationship movie. It's a relationship with this writer that she really, really loves and she becomes obsessed with, but it's a lot of scenes where it's just the two of them. You could take a lot of the movies that he's made and they could probably be a part of it. How many times could you simulate the casting and filming and and entire thing of stand by me and not get River Phoenix, Bull Wheaton, Jerry O'Connell, Corey Feldman and that exact points in their lives and like the like, you know, basically contrasting those performances against one other, it's like the perfect group of kid friends at that age. Yeah. Like I think in a way that like transcends anything like Spielberg ever did in that way, in that way. Yeah, I mean, he had so many lifelong friends and a lot of them poured out this week with just really being upset. I think one of the things that I know gold been like loved him. Yeah. This was only his favorite people ever worked with. They did a lot of stuff together. But that was the theme over and over again. When she when she did something with him, you were like a friend for life and Hollywood's not really that way. This guy was friends with every type of comedian and actor that we had and and seem like he kept the relationships and got the best out of them. But I think when I think about the movies that he made, the relationships in the movie are why they work. And I think you have to have a director that understands like a set how to put people together how to how to mesh two characters that might make sense on screen and actually have relationship and then foster that on the set. I just don't think a lot of people can do it. And you know, ultimately the rewatchability of his movies comes down to you just like hanging out with the characters. Yeah. I mean, he there's a really good making of the sure thing that's on YouTube that you can watch along with this movie. And he talks about he just reads a script, figures out who he is in the movie. Yeah. And then starts thinking about things from that perspective of OK, if I'm give in the in the short thing or if I'm coffee, even in a few good men, like how would I go about and how would I perceive these different situations. And he's just really, really good. I mean, he has a quote in that make it in this making of that he says the emotional difference differences create the obstacles. You don't create the obstacles ahead of time. And so he just finds these people who are just dissimilar enough to create tension, but you know, going into it, like they're going to figure it out by the end of the two hours. And there's something deeply satisfying about that. Yeah. And he also has really good at long scenes, which I think is a lost heart. You know, when we do most rewatchable scene, but you think of some of the great scenes that his movies have had like stand by me. The story about the fact kid throwing up. Yeah. You know, and him. Well, I forget that well, we in his character's name, but him telling the story to his buddies. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And just the way that plays out. It's like an eight minute scene. There's a couple and sure thing like that too, or just these long, long pieces. And then he really would know how to nail a moment. Like I, not to step on rewatchable, but I just love Danny in this movie so much with the professor reading the story. Yeah. It's so fucking good. And I'm so glad we're doing this because I think this is one of the best 80s movies. I really do. Like I like, I'm not, I'm not talking, I'm talking about like teen, the high school college. I have a hotest take for that later, but it's a road trip movie. It's, it's a two opposites romcom. It's a horny teenagers trying to get late 80s movie. It's weirdly kind of a fun college movie. And it all happens in, an hour, 31 minutes or something. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's essentially coming into after math of, of risky business and definitely has some elements of risky business in it. Yeah. But is a much more grounded, less, maybe less overly stylized and much more like kind of human regular everyday story. I mean, you could see this happening to yourself at any point up until the adventure of the internet pretty much. What's the, we usually do craigs take at the end. We're doing it early because he'd never seen this movie before. And I knew out of anyone we'd ever done, I knew you would love it. And we have talked about doing this movie for years because I can't believe it's not streaming. I think it's not streaming because it's soundtrack, but what'd you think? Embarrassed to say I'd never even heard of this movie. And I absolutely loved it. This will immediately go on my like favorites of the year for the rewatchables. I adored it. It's a 10 out of 10, five out of five, whatever letterbox score you want to give it. You only need, well, first of all, you only need 90 minutes if you're doing it right. Like you can do it right in 90 minutes if, if you have it all all piece together, Q-Sack, I totally agree the most likable he's ever been. I've never even really felt that connected to Q-Sack's characters. And I thought this was his best one. I can't believe he was like 1617 when they filmed it. Chris and I were talking before that there is a little bit of like a before sunrise element to this movie where it's a lot of these long slow moments between these two characters. And it's just one shot of them interacting and there's no cuts between them. And you just fully buy into their evolution and their connection by the end of the movie. I think it's incredibly funny and really well written, really heartfelt. Like across the board, it's just I loved it. When you're a kid, when you're young, you watch this movie, whenever I saw it first on like VHS and the 80s or whatever, you just take give it face value. And you're like, oh, this guy's really funny. And he's got like, there's all these different voices and has like all this energy. And then when you watch it now, you're like, oh, he he doesn't know who he is. Yeah. And so he's putting on all these airs and he's doing all these different characters basically within the movie. And it's such a subtle thing to notice over the years. Craig, you mentioned link like the link later movies. Castle Rock was the production company on before sunrise and before sunset, right? Yeah. And this feels like it could have been an easily a link later movie. Yes. I found some lists a couple months ago that just like I had it from a notebook in college where I just wrote down my favorite movies of all time. This was like a 1991. And this was like number seven. It really was. I loved this movie. I watched it every time it was on. Yeah. And for whatever reason, the last 15 years or so it died. And I do think it's one of those movies that like if Amazon God or Netflix got it, it would immediately be like number one, number two or number three in the trending for three weeks because it's so much fucking fun to watch. It's it's also crazy that for QSAC, he's probably not in it because he thought he was going to be in the breakfast club. Oh yeah. And he was cast as John Bender and then they actually brought him to the and I don't know what the timing was whether it would have overlapped with this. But he shows up for breakfast club and they're like, oh, he's all wrong. And they dump them. Yeah. So they brought in Judd Nelson. So he's at a point in his career where first of all, Riner would have met with him because he was too young for the party. He's supposed to be in college. He'd only been in like class. He was in 16 canals. He's in the background. You could barely see him. And and they ended up filming him from March, April, 1984. He's emancipated. And you watched this and you would have thought he would have been in like eight movies. Yeah. It's basically the first time he's ever been in a movie. He's like in the home run almost every shot of the movie. Yeah. It's so good. He's doing different characters and just caring everything. I wrote down, I was trying to think of the most memorable young actor 80s movies performances. And I think it's this. I think it's Broderick and Ferris Bueller. And weirdly, I think it's Judd Nelson and Breakfast Club. Sure. And I think those are the three for when you watch a movie. First of all, they just kind of own the movie. But then when you saw when it happened, you're like, that guy's going to go on and midnight Oscars. And Slater and pump up the volume, which is later another one. Is there anyone whom I mentioned Sean Penn and Taps? Oh, that's a good one. Because when you watch that, you're like holy shit. I was thinking more like comedy is where I was like, wow, this guy's killing it in this. Yeah, there's some other ones like Timothy Houghton. Like we could go through cruise and risky business. I guess is a really good one. But definitely a moment where you're like, oh, this guy's going to be in my life. Cruise and risky business is a good one. And then Daphne Zaniga, who's in this and Vision Quest same year, ends up in Space Balls. Everybody liked her. And just another one of those things were not enough good parts. Probably got Margaret corrected a couple times. And the TV. And ends up on Melrose places, Joe, the rebellious photographer who ends up getting involved with Jake. It's my favorite guy to photographer. And ends up in a little little love triangle with Jake and Amanda in season two. That eventually gets impregnated by somebody who tries to kill her at her high school reunion. What season does that happen? That's probably season three. And then her baby gets kidnapped by the dead guy's parents and she had quite a run. Did she die in the show? No, she escaped with baby. After the after the in-laws tried to kidnap the baby, she decided it was time to leave Melrose place. But I was like there. And this part is a great part. It's it's oh, I know this person. Yes, really uptight, kind of cool, pretty. they could tell there's a fun person in there somewhere, but she's like, this is gonna be my life. I knew these girls in college. - Well, both Daphne's and Nika and Qsac talk about their similarities to the characters. And they were like, Riner clearly just like re, she was like, I am way more like Allison than I, I was way more like Allison though, I was comfortable admitting. And Riner obviously just like got to know these people and recognized who they were and were like, let's bring this part out of you. He worked a lot on the script. I think the movie has so many connections to classic, Hollywood's group of comedies, like it happened one night. And that's one of the really, like among the hundred awful things about what's happened here. One of the sad things is the amount of institutional knowledge that goes with Rob Reiner, 'cause like obviously going back, not only through his television career, but his father's huge career in Hollywood. And this ability to kind of make connections between the past and the present in your work. And to show people like, you know, there's only so many stories, right? Like, we're just telling them in different ways with different references and with different updated characters. But like opposites attract on the road, make two of those a year. - Like all you need. - Yeah, like they're classics for racing. You just have to modernize them. - Why is not that hard? And he kind of sees like he's, you know, the fan of Prestonster, just fan of Frank Capro, wants to like kind of make something like this. He gets this gig before spinal tap even comes out. - Yeah. - When you think about how different this is two spinal tap, those are his first two movies. That's amazing. - As somebody who was a kid, as his career kind of arced up, he was meathead. It was hard for him to believe that he was even going to direct the movie. - And did you think about him as Carl Reiner's son necessarily? Or was he-- - No, I only knew him as meathead. And it was like, meathead's going to be director. Like that's, you just knew him as meathead. How else was I going to know him? And also like 35 million people watched that show every week. - Yeah. - And he was like the, you know, that show is like, I would love to be in a room with kids in college watching like season one of our, all in the family just to see the reactions. But he was like the hippie, you know, Vietnam protester kind of son-in-law with like this reprehensible but loveable father-in-law - Right. - Who would just insult everybody and he would just kind of battle with them. And that's kind of who he became. And he was smart enough. He left the show because he was like, I don't want to be meathead. I'd sure think there's probably more here. But yeah, he didn't shed meathead until this movie. - Okay. - And after this movie it was like, oh Rob Reiner, he's good at this. And then, you know, stand by me that then he was cemented. But this was a big movie. Like this was a really important high school college movie for everyone in my generation. It was right. It was in there it was one of the OGs. It was a Ferris Bior. It was with Breakfast Club. It was with a lot of karate kid team wolf all those. It was right there. - Of the QZAC movies from this era, I think I watched, I mean before say anything came out. I think I probably watched one crazy summer more. But that's just like a higher joke volume. So when I was a kid that was like, that just watching like something that had animation and had like all these different skits within the movie. - That was a Zag movie too, where some people are like, you know what's fucking awesome? One crazy summer, you know. This, I watched this a bunch of time. The soundtrack's great. The two of them are awesome together. There's a nigga and QZAC. But then you have young Anthony Edwards with hair. - Yep. - Yeah. - What a run for him, Revenge of the Nerds. - And he was, I mean, top gun. - Yeah, not to step on it, but he was up for give. - Right. You have young Nicolas Sheridan. - Fantastic. - Just throwing her fastball, shows up 20 years later in desperate housewives. - Is that the sure thing woman? - Yeah. - Yeah. - I've thought about her character, I'm saving for later. - Great. Tim Robbins, singing show tunes in the car. - And one of what would be many collaborations with QZAC? - Yeah. - Really good cast. - A lot of that guys in this movie. - Written by Jonathan Roberts and Stephen O'Boom. Congratulations guys, you did great. 4.5 million to our budget made $18.1 million. It's not bad for an 1885. - Roger Ebert, three and a half stars. - Fucking loved it. - Fucking killed it. - I watched Cisco and Ebert talking about this day. They were like over the moon for it. - Well, this is coming off. We should have mentioned this earlier, but this is a five year run of Horny Teenagers trying to get laid movies. The poster of this, the premise of it makes it seem like, oh, we're doing this again. And it's like, no, we're actually not doing this again. Stick with us. So I think those guys were so grateful somebody put some actual thought. And I think, I don't even think this is the hottest take. I think you could argue that this ended the Porky Zero. Like this actual, this was the movie that was like, we're done now. - Oh, like we're done. - We're now out there to be on this. We're gonna move this way now, yes. And we're gonna put some more thought into this. - 'Cause this movie sells sex, but doesn't give you any. - I mean, yeah, I mean, there's one sort of comic sex scene in this movie, and other than that, it's pre-chaste. - And like the marketing and the poster makes you think this is much more of a raunchy teen sex comedy. And it's really not, it's closer to like, if the road trip scene from One Harry Met Sally was like the whole movie with 18 year olds. - Yeah, there is another movie a year before that compliments been bad dreamy to Henry Watchables forever, the flamingo kid. - Sure. - That's different than this movie, but also it was like kind of that elevated. You think it's one thing, but it's actually a way better version of it. Ebert said, "The love story is one of Hollywood's missing genres. The movie industry seems better at teenage movies like Porquies with its sleazy shower scenes than with screenplays that involve any sort of thought about the love lives of its characters." That's why the sure thing is a small miracle. The film is so revolutionary and believes sex should be accompanied by respect and love, exclamation point. - Yeah. - Right. Raj just wanted us to work on our relationships in movies. He wanted to cut to the chase. All right, we're gonna take a break and we'll do most of our watchables scene. - All right, most of our watchables scene, the opening credits are great. Rod Stewart, yes. - You like that song? - Yeah. - I think it's that you-ish. - His disco-y funk arrow is not my favorite Rod Stewart, but it's a cool song. - Like if I put that on at a holiday party when people thought that was weird. Like, hey guys, here's Rod Stewart's infatuation. You should've just played the sure thing soundtrack party. - It's a great opening credits. I talk about like a way to hook you into the movie. Like you're locked in. - Yeah. - Yeah. - She's a great chap. - The opening credits is a lost art in movies now. We don't do that anymore. - Yeah. I mean, the movie, like a lot of the big blockbusters now, I feel like pretty much skip the opening credits and get right into like a big action movie. - There's no vibe setting, which is what it's really done. - The next we watch the most movie we're gonna do, which I'm not gonna spoil, has opening credits. - Yeah, that's true. - It was noticeable. - It's like, oh guys, look at this. Going back to the well. - Most of what we'll actually see in the first classroom scene that sets up Gibb as our carefree, lovable kind of fuck up. I hope he can pull off just everything in life and then Allison as the intense overachiever. Some good, back and forth with them. I like a good football scene in these 80s, 90s. - Honestly, if they wanted to do the first hour and a half of this movie being just football on the quad, I would have taken it. This is such a funny fucking scene from him announcing it. - Yeah, announcing that's going on. He also keeps getting it. He's like, "Ed Reid, I know he keeps getting it." - He's such a good athlete. - Yeah, pretty good, he's tall. - Yeah. - Yeah, I love this scene. And I love the moment where he runs by Allison and her friend and never says hi, but just keeps his Pat Someral announcing going and then it's just kind of looking at her and she's kind of looking at it. It's just such a great little moment and they don't have any real interaction until he goes and stalks her down by the pool. - Crick, how much two on two football have you played in your life? - Tons. - It's on the beach. - It's a big movie show. - That's a big sport. - Movies love the two on two flag football. - And then it was like, they were playing 5,000 for Blitz. - Yeah. - Did it stop and go? That's always a good one. So that's the best route. - That's the Kevin Pettulo right there. - I knew nothing. - You guys sell the pump fake though. - Right, true. - I knew nothing is the only child. So basically anything I knew from colleges, we're from going to visit Michael Don in Mayant Louise in college or movies. - Uh huh. - And I just thought movies were like, I thought college was like movies like this, where you went to your buddy's room and he had 10,000 beer bottles all stacked up. - Is it not like that? I feel like it is like that. - People play football. - No, in my head I was like, this is college. - But I thought when they're like, "It's Friday night." - Yeah, as a Miller high. - A guy opening the window going, "It's Friday night." - You want to do most capable moment. I don't know how that Friday beers get on that right now because that's an iconic moment of that day. That guy's also like 28, but I love that. - Yeah, I love that. - And then immediately everybody is like playing soccer in the hall in exchanging kegs. - Yeah. - The swimming pool scene's funny. That's where you're like, "Oh, Q-Sex is just gonna go for a cooking movie." - He's cooking. - Yeah. - Give an Alice in getting kicked out of Gary Cooper's car, played by Tim Robbins, which includes showtons, shotguning a beer and eating cheese balls, I think which is the big goon to burger work for best use of food or drink. - Alice in flashing a car. - Yeah. - It'll turn the tables. And then Tim Robbins escaping with a-- - Lock the doors. - Lock the doors. - When that woman screams, she is so funny, his wife. - Yeah. - He locked the door and she's like, "Ah!" - Possible great shot gordo word here. They're outside the car's gone. In Q-Sex city on the ground, with the camera and the road behind them. And in Daphne's the new character is behind them. It's a good one. Give foiling the Hitchhiker possible rapist. Where he does that. I mean, that could be some crazy slime ball. - Like a shit brain. - He's really funny in that. - He did just for pleasure. - The scene where it just starts pouring rain on them. - Yeah. You remember she has a credit card, but can only use it for emergencies. I hope one comes up. Maybe one will come up. I'm a big fan of these scenes of the romcom, the accidental cuddle scene. - Yes. - Always works. - Gip wakes up, cuddling Allison. - Oh, sorry, sorry, no, it was all right. Like at that point, it's like, come on, kid. She's sending you the official signs now. - I mean, she's like, you can sleep in the bed with me. - Yeah, yeah, come on, kid. - They get a ride and he tells the trucker his whole sure thing story, which of course she wakes up for. Two more scenes, the Lance's Hollywood. - The DGD for it. - His whole 40s party, just sounded amazing. The punch bowl and so it's were funny. And then the last one, which is my pick, the professor reading the short thing I say. - Yes. - Does God exist? Who invented liquid soap and why? And then the answer was no. That seems awesome. - Yes. - You're like, why do they keep going to this professor? Like what's going to be the payoff with her? And it really, Vivica Lindforz, is that who plays her? - Yeah, she's some old school Hollywood actress. - Yeah. - Yeah. I just want to shout out of honorable, mentioned, rewatchable scene, the dive bar scene. - Oh, yeah. - I do love that scene. - But the guy being like, I had fraud food today. I shouldn't have done it. You know, like, and it's just like those three guys sitting at the bar and being like, we're pretty good looking. You know, I love that. But I would-- - We were better at the '80s and '90s, which is having random dive bar scenes with weird characters. - But it's also like that. - I have those somewhere. - That scene doesn't actually have like a purpose other than this is maybe where he's going to wind up if he doesn't get a shit together. I guess. - It's the only scene that can be cut and it might be my favorite scene in the movie. - It's yeah. - The waitress who keeps coming back and he just keeps giving her like random facts and she's just cool. - That's one of my two flexes that two I wrote down in this scene is the Rick Dalton Award for the best fucking acting I've ever seen in my life. The fat drunk guy at the bar, I think is some of the best drunk acting I ever seen. - It's amazing. - I was like, is this Brando in makeup for something like-- - He is remarkably good. I looked him up. His name is George Mimoli. He actually died in 1985. - Oh. - He's been in a bunch of other movies. He had an accident on set. He was supposed to be a taxi driver. Scorsese in an interview in 2002 said he died because of that injury on set. - Oh. - But, whoa. I know, it's crazy. - Craig's like really bringing it today. - Right. I honestly loved it. I feel like I've already seen the movie 10 times, even though I've watched it once. - I'm gonna say fuck it. I'm gonna go with the dive bar. Even though Allison's not in it. That's what I was rewatchable seeing. - Have you ever had a professor who could read anything that well in front of a class? - I was gonna bring up creative writing workshops in a little bit later, but we can-- - I've never had it. - I've had some pretty magnetic professors, but they were more monologuing doing their lectures. The creative writing workshops are a real crap shoe. - My eighth grade English teacher, Wally Ramsey. My father of my buddy Gus, he would read essays sometimes when it was really good at it. That's the only one I can remember. - She's going first pass on that essay. It's just nailing it. It's a really, really crushing it. - Also, she does the thing that I don't think teachers do anymore where she grades people out loud in front of everyone. - Yeah. Now that would cause an episode right. - She's like, "Allison, I liked it, but open up a little bit more." - Yeah. - B plus. - That's how just like goes to the next verse. - That's how they got Lydia Tarr, you know? - I should do that at the end of the year with the Ranger staff. - On Mike, review every podcast. - Yeah. - Get out. - I thought you had a great year. - To be fair, you opened this podcast, doing that to me. - Yeah, that's true. - A little bit of fluff in the beginning, C.R. - Yeah, but then you got to where you needed to go. - Yeah. - What's the most 1985 thing about this movie? Writing detailed letters to your friends from high school? - Yeah. - Yes. - Dear Sean. I'm having a great time in school. I saw one battle after another. I thought it was awesome. I know you must have loved it. And then you would just send it. - Thank you for today. - Not here for todays. - Thank you for todays. - We really did do that. I would send letters to my friends. - I would say that my emails to friends were still pretty long until I got G-Chat in like '02. And then it just turned into like everything was one sentence. But like up until like when you first had to like go to the library to log into your email, I would still be like, well, I'm only coming here like twice a week. So I'm writing a long email. - We would have the mailbox in college, was like genuinely exciting to go to the mailbox every day and see if you got a letter from somebody. - Sounds really strange. - Sounds like a better time. - I like the line from Lance. I'm talking to you cordless. - Yeah. - That's pretty 1985. More 1985 writing funny six story letters to Penn House. - Yes. - Everyone tried this in the 80s. - I did not, but yeah. - I'm talking to you cordless. - Everyone. - Everyone. - Trust me. - I'm talking to you cordless I had. And then Alison had an amazing culture club poster. - Oh yeah. - Your room. - She had the Paul Newman one in culture club. - Right. - The culture club poster probably had a five month shelf life. By 1986 you're not having that poster. - No, you moved onto the boss or something. - Did you have any others? - I don't know if this is still a thing, but the ride bulletin board. - So I wondered about that. I wondered if they still must have that though, right? Or maybe it's now a message board? - I just feel like it's either a message board or it's just like yeah, my buddy's driving back to Atlanta. So I'm gonna get a ride with him or something. You know, like it's the idea of just being like, I guess I'll get in this car for three days with this person who's the only thing I know about them is that they put an index card up on a bulletin board. It seems highly unlikely. I had this in one stage the worst, but getting a ride with them, but then also sharing a hotel with two double beds with strangers. - I gotta admit though. - I don't think that happens in 25. - No, but I will say some of the best road trips I've ever had have been like random going back to going back home for Thanksgiving with a couple of like, like Andy and I used to go back to Philly with Thanksgiving. He would take a bunch of his buddies from Brown University with him. So I would drive some people with me and it would just always be the best. Like those like, we're out of school for a week. Let's go is the best feeling. - What saves the best? The soundtrack, which I think is the reason this movie is not streaming includes Radsuit and Fatuation, Hugh Lewis, Hard Rock and Roll. John, wait, it's crying over you. - Oh yeah. - Which I forgot how much I loved. - Yeah. - Harding today. - It's awesome. - Sing it. ♪ Crying over you ♪ - He had a couple of bangers, wait. He really did. He eagles heartbreak tonight. The cars you might think, Wang Chang dance all days, lights out by Peter Wolf, and then Penny Lover by Lionel Richey, which is maybe his best song. I think that's like a zag. I don't know if I believe it, but I think you could say it's his best constructed song. - Better than smells like teen spirit. - Well, I can't wait to talk about that. More of what saves the best. I mentioned how the movie made college seem just so great. It's like an awesome place. - I would say, I couldn't decide whether to put it in best or worst, but the scene of Anthony Edwards calling John Cusack from 10 people just lounging. - He's in UCLA, but it seems like he's at Pepperdine 'cause he's got the-- - No, he said he was at his buddy's Malibu place. - Oh, that's right. He's at his buddy's Malibu place. And like there's just like 14 girls drinkin' diet coats in the food. - He's the playboy mansion, basically. - Yeah. - And he's just like-- - Were you doing that at San Diego? - This is a little bit of your buddies. - No, dude, we're in La Jolla. - That is one of the hardest things to get your head around, though, if you went to college in the Northeast, and then you hear about what college was like for people who went to school in Southern California, you're just like, God dammit. What was I thinking? Did I think nine months of dark cold weather would be a good idea? - There's a couple of schools out here that are like that. Like the UCSB was like the stealth like Fight Club the student body didn't even talk about it. They didn't want to know us to know. Now a row knows, but I think they had it like hit in for a while. - Just like how great it was? - Yeah. - How great it is to go to school in Santa Barbara and just have all these options. - And I love this huge party town. They're like legendary for Halloween there, it's insane. - But San Diego's another one. Like just a good place to go to college. A lot of stuff going on. I like the line, how would you like to have a sexual encounter so intense it could change your political views. She's good writing. (laughing) What's age the best? Professors with cool accents, reading essays and class. - Yeah. - I had this in college, Professor Vandichelli, RIP. Snowy college campus is fun. I want to shout out for what's age the best, the stuffy boyfriend that she had. In two minutes. - Jason. - Yeah. - In two minutes he talks about his flannel sheets that he just put on. He has choices of tea. He cleared out his, her draw for her for the week. And then he's a big gin rummy guy offering to give her extra points. They just nailed everything with that. - And every time she's just like, let's go to Disneyland. He's like, well, Disneyland is just for children, yeah. The whole concept of giving somebody a real name like Nick. Nick's your buddy, Nick's a guy you can trust. Nick will let you puke in your car. Do you think Nick's the right name for that? - In 1985. - I think that's Ben. That was one of the reasons I named my son Ben. I feel like Ben's are just really reliable. When does a Ben ever let you down? And then Lance's room, which not only had the 100 different beer bottles, but had the 1984 tennis poster of the girl's ass, where she's put in the ball in and there's an ass cheek, which was there in the 80s for a while, but I think I'd think I'd be the right one. I think people realized eventually like this isn't the greatest way to have the abs. I didn't have for what is the worst, what Lance's room probably smelled like because you know he's not thoroughly washing those beer bottles out, so it probably just smells like sweat. Oh, it smells like skunk beer and skunk beer and he's like, this is the love palace. This is where I take all the chance. You have any other what's age the best? No, I mean, just the vision of 1980s college life was really age the best between the classes, the fashions, the I love the way Allison is divided her day where she's like, you know, six o'clock calculus, six, 45 phone call, you know, like, yeah. And just like the Friday night party and stuff like that, that was my favorite. Also, what's age the best is we're actually, you know, you could say it's the worst, but was it easier back then when somebody would just be like, hey, here's a picture of a girl I think you might like, and that was the extent of the knowledge that you had and you had to actually like go meet that person. You're like done. Yeah. We should mention what's age the best young Qsack, just knowing that you're going to spend the next 40 years with this guy. I have a special Amanda Dobbins award for the best piece of real estate. The three story Malibu house and Gibbs's dreams. Yes. Great house. That's like a hundred million dollar house now. Oh, it's insane. Three stories right on the beach. It's like a staircase. What was that? I think that was in Malibu. Do you think that was in Malibu? Do you think that was in like a hundred percent? No, I think it was like way down in Malibu, of course, like when it gets a little parent. Great chat, go to our word. Can we just say the man who shot this film shot there will be blood. That is fucking nice. And another hallmark of Rob Reiner movies, he works with incredible people. He picks like the best people to shoot and write his movies. And Robert Ellsworth was the DOP on this. I wouldn't know that if you put two frames next to each other, but it is an indication of his eye for talent. Yeah. I mean, that was like Goldman's favorite guy to do stuff with. And Goldman, when he started working with him, Goldman and Robert Town were the two best screenwriters, right? Yeah. Riders like, come on. And Goldman was going through, I think a little bit of a tough time. Like writer's block, back issues, and the Reiner stuff really like being bigger. Like Tracy McGrady. Yeah. A little bit. Like Tracy McGrady on the rockets. Great chat. Rob's going to say the wallet being in the bed is so well done when it's that shot of them looking them looking they're looking around and then they leave and it just comes down. And you just see the the wallet and all the stuff is really good. What do you have? I just had the dolly shot of gig walking up and down the pool yelling at her. Oh, yeah. It's just like a right on the edge of absurd, it jumps in the pool and it's just like such a great like piece of visual, visual joke. It could be a pursuit of happiness where a best needle drop. It could be infatuation up in credits, but I think penny lever drops at a really nice time for the slow dance. I thought you might think when you walk into the frat party was like, that's what I want to hear. If I was walking into a Tahitian themed frat party, that's good. CR's choice for a flex category. What do you got? Book about medals award for belatedly best quote or exchange is when Qsac says that he plays football for grambling and his friends like, I thought I thought grambling was all black. Qsac just goes so black. It's such a random little line. He's like, it's nine interceptions on this season for grambling. He's like, I thought grambling was all black. That's a good one. Butches grow forward for weak link of the film. They just don't do a good enough job with the the shared and character, the sure thing. Even in the moment, not feeling great for her, but then the years later, she's just I don't know. I just feel bad for her. I wish she had been like 10% more like kind of on it. So neither. No, you think it's perfect? No, no, no. I think it's it's the only glaring issue with this movie is that he's getting this gorgeous around woman at UCLA is just roaming around a frat party with no one near her. No, she's literally getting pimped out by Anthony. She's just like come here and she's ready for it. Sure. And for the next hour and a half, I'll just follow John Cusek around and hope he talks to me. No other man is speaking with me. I have nothing else to do. Yeah. It's the hottest woman in LA. No one's getting near Don Simpson's step-step son is probably there or whatever. She would be hounded. She would have been hounded. But this was an 80s trope where the either of that or was Lori Laughan and secret admirer with nobody likes her and she's like smoking hot. The casting or the presentation of the two other people in these people's lives. So Jason, the boyfriend at UCLA and Nicolette Sheridan, it's like I could stand for them to be a little bit more relatable or human, but like I understand why you have to make them caricatures. Yeah, they're like props. Yeah. Yeah. What's age the worst? Cusek tries a Valley girl accident at one point, which was very invoked in 85, but now is like, I don't know if anyone's getting the joke or you think they were doing like the California occasion. What was that? The California. Yeah. Yeah. I have a good what's age the worst though. And this is a theme for 80s movies. 80s teens being really fascinated by stars and outer space as a way to make it seem more human. This is a big one and I can't buy me love, but it's a lot like it was a way to show that there was more to the guy than just trying to get laid. We'd be like, it's all out there, man. Yeah. All these stars and be like kind of the moment. Yeah. Yeah. I now I realize I probably should have done that more when I was trying to do that. Do you think that there's like a telescope became more widely available kind of thing that's happening with that? Why do we have too much info in outer space now and it's like, yeah, there's some shit up there. We've kind of we've kind of explored everything put some satellites and it's just some stars. There's no human life. I have for what's age the worst. The character named Walter Gibson, not a name you see a lot on a lot of white guys anymore. No, he'd be like a left guard for the Jacksonville Jackwars. Walter Gibson's problem. We'll go back. He's really easy. Kirby smart. Really. Yeah. Right. Writing workshops. I know they help people with their work, but I you have to listen to a lot of bad writing when you're in writing workshops and you and you have to do a lot of kind of really forcing a compliments. Yeah. I had to like at every time I had to listen to like vampire erotica and just be like, that was pretty good. Yeah. I think you may want to think about the last act. Chris, you really have an eye for characters. Your ear for dialogue is amazing. Yeah. Your for dialogues. A good compliment. Hitch Hiking. Yeah. We don't do that too much anymore. It's probably age the worst. We don't do it because Netflix has been 45 true crime documentaries that end with a hitchhiker. It was not to get dark, but was there a definitive end to hitchhiking or something happened? Yeah. End of the 70s. Okay. Yeah. I think the 70s it was going and then they were actually like PSA TV movies that I remember watching. Don't hitchhike. The late 70s where I was like, this guy, did you ever hitchhike? Never. Okay. By the 80s people into that. He was member of Paul Thomas Anderson's dad who would do the ABC ads. They would do like, Sally thought it would be a good idea to go cross country. She thought wrong. The Angel Dusty. Diary of a Teenage Hitchhacker. Diary, Diary, Diary, Diary, Diary. Come on up next. Come on up next. Come on up next. But yeah, they put the fair God in you with the after school specials and everything else. It's a good scene. Obviously, it helps his character develop it. I don't know of Allison for who she is, for how pragmatic she is if she would have gotten in that car with that guy. I think she's ever what's in. I mean, they are in the great planes in that scene, so like, I don't know where she's going. Yeah. I'm probably at this point. It's aged the worst to travel 3,000 miles to get laid just because there are apps now. Yeah. Yeah. He's just going on. What would site would he go on now, Craig? Not that I used them, but Bumble, Hinge, Tinder. No free ads. Not that I used to. Not that that. That big of a sponsored segment, Craig. Riot, if you're, if you're really cool, yeah, yeah, I don't think it's getting on. Riot. The Refflo Hannah Rubin and Parcher Jover acting word. It's Qsac and a couple of times, but I love it every time. Qsac, the head. Totally necessary. Yeah. Qsac, the crazy hitchhike. Totally necessary. So, do we retire this CR? Thanks, Luke Wilson. Could have been Harrison Ford. How to take a word and change it to the Rob Mahoney thinks smells like team spirit sucks a word. I think it's. Is it time? I'm willing to give it a word. I think so. The categories. Sure. The categories could use a new coat of paint. Yeah. So, we call it the Rob Mahoney thinks smells like team spirit sucked the whole time. Yeah. We see what we watchables hottest take, like March Madness bracket. Oh, like a clip show. And then just have, like, all of the hottest takes like the best 64 we've ever done and have them compete and see which one wins. My hottest take for be it Rob Mahoney or the Luke Wilson is that Gibb and Allison met just a hair too early to make it really work in their lives. It's just freshman years tough, man, freshman year and for that to be the forever relationship. Those guys are going to go through a lot of changes. They're going to discover a lot of new music. They're going to try some different drugs, you know, like it's about to get really cookie out there in the 80s. You never know what's going to happen. Yeah. But I just don't really know if Gibb is going to be able to like dial it in academically. I think they're, they're supposed to be at like Cornell, you know, Allison's not going to deny. Oh, but yeah, Cornell could be a work that they're supposed to be in, but yeah, it's a sad, sad little truth, but I don't think Gibb and Allison are forever a couple. I had this later for probably an answerable. So I'll just do it now. I think it's going great and I think he gets drunk one night and makes out with another girl and she never forgives him and then at some point, campus police might have had to intervene because he kept showing up at a room at home over under sophomore first semester that they make it to. Do you think they make it through that first summer? No. Really? I think they do. I think they make it through most of college and he starts to have the same crisis he has at the end of high school where he's like, I like got to go on and be myself and do something else. I can't be with the same girl into my 20s. Do you think Lance remains a thorn in the side for the relationship or has he become like? No, Lance is out. He marries a biologist. Yeah. I think Gibwood's the intramural football championship and he goes right to his head. He's first to gambling? Yeah, he's first to gambling. He's in the head support. My CR thinks Luke Wilson could have been Harrison Ford, how does it take, which we're now retiring and they may have to rob money and smells like teen spirit and how does it take a word? I think risky business and the sure thing are the two best 80s teen movies with teen characters as the protagonist. Risky business and the sure thing. Okay. I think they are the top two out of breakfast club third and I've cried a kid fourth. You don't have - is Bue or five? They go to Bue or five. Really? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Okay. If I do Mount Rushmore, I'd have those as the four and then Bue or five and Bue or versus cry to kids, a good argument. To me, cry to kids like, I don't know, I think it was a sports movie that I do as a teen movie. All right, fair. I'll bump cry to kid. Risky business, sure thing, breakfast club, Ferris. As a Mount Rushmore, I think that's - I think that might be it for me. I'll move cry to kids of the sports movie territory. Thank you. Yeah. All right. Casting what ifs. You mentioned Nathaniel Edwards almost got the lead and then Q-SAC got the part. They moved them over. Robin Wright, audition for the title role, didn't get it for the insurance part, filed it away. Yeah. For a princess bride. To your point or to our point where we're like, if it's Robin Wright, the movie doesn't work. Yeah. Because she's the most beautiful person. You have existed. It's unrealistic that she would be single for. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Thanks for the ride, Allison. I'll see you later. Yeah. Right. House and five. I hope it works out with the boys. Good luck. Good luck. Oh, there's a couple other casting what ifs. Anthony Edwards is up for give, as we said, and Mayor winning him for, uh, Allison. Probably Zuniga is probably a better. Yeah, but you can see it and say it almost fire. Yeah. You can see where they were coming from. I almost did that for my hat is take. Maybe, maybe I could do a second one. Go ahead. It's your pod. Uh, I think should have been in the Brad pack. I think she easily could have replaced Alice sheety and all the Alice sheety parts. And I would rather, I just would rather have heard of the Alice sheety just in general. I think St. Elmo's fire is better with her. I think breakfast comes better with her. Um, so I would say I even think bad boys would be better. There's a weird moment right now, weird moment, but it's like one crazy summer. And me more is a, is basically playing the Daphne Zuniga part. It's the person that, that Q's X characters kind of with the whole movie, yeah, but is distracted from. And then eventually realizes like I'm in love with this person, right? And I wonder how much of a Demi Moore career Zach Daphne Zuniga could add. Interesting. Well, she ended up getting knocked up by her high school reading guy and then fighting for custody with her in love season three. Best that guy, the trucker Larry Hanken, you know who the trucker is? No. Did you wreck it? Like were you like? Vegetarian now under TV actor didn't recognize him. He played the cranky friends neighbor who ended up dying. He also played Kramer's alter ego in the Seinfeld. The Bizarre episode. No. Was it the Bizarre episode or the one where they did the TV show about Seinfeld? I can't remember. I think it was that when they did the TV show and Kramer didn't get to play Kramer, but somebody else did. I think that was Larry Hanken. It's been around for a long time. Carmen Flippy was, or Flippy was the bus station bum in the most man in this movie. He was the preacher in Halloween four. Oh. And he's in a bunch of Tim Burton movies. That's a good one. And he's in wedding singer. Yeah. One more break. And then we'll do DM Waiters. DM Waiters a word. You know, I checked. I did do a rewatchables mailbag or a mailbag from my pot or some sort of mailbag. Multiple people have pushed for this to be the bill packs than a word instead of the DM Waiters word. I'm not good with changing DM Waiters. I think it's spent 10 years at the end of the year. A four part of the film. Yeah. And I'm feeling like we can change that. It's also funny that he's been at a basketball for five years. He, it's a real race to see who people know less. Maybe on Waiters or, or we on the city, you know, or Jackets, I might be DM. Yeah. Waiters. The teacher, physical enforce Tim Robbins, Anthony Edwards's Lance or the short thing. I actually think it's the teacher. I think you're right. I, Robbins is right behind him. Yeah. Robbins is going to take good care of himself. He blocked. Why don't you sing it, buddy? He's just, he's kind of mad that they're not singing in the back. We cast the couch director of city. I love everybody. And change the thing. I maybe would identify the college campus and really go hard on like a Georgetown or a brown or just so we know where we are, but they didn't like that. Yeah, it's like a year too late. It would just be really, it would be really fun if like Tom Cruise was Lance. Yeah. Rob Lowe could have been Lance. I'm surprised he was available. I'm coming from, I'm coming to you, cordless. Craig has a flex category. I did the, the Rick Dalton, I, I, can I just save it for picking nets? Yep. Cause I, yeah. Have I started a research? Some guy named Robert Barre played the same character named Moke in this end spinal tap. The scene when Gibb teaches Allison and Shuck and a beer was added to the script because QSEC told Reiner this was one of his talents. That's right. Where'd he go? Reiner said he shot at multiple colleges. So it'd be a generic, but obviously Ivy Lager and that's cat time. I will say, I forgot to put this at what stage of the worst is that now that I've lived in California for a little while, like you can tell 90% of the movie is shot in California, even though it's a road movie. And you can be like, oh yeah, this is just stocked in. Gibb is wearing the green and golds, green and gold kangaroo's jersey of an Australian national rugby league team in that era. And they just, they gave it to him because they liked the way the jersey looked. And I guess for the next 10, 20 years, people were mentioning it to QSEC. I just assumed that all T-shirts, the John QSEC, whereas in John QSEC movies are John QSEC's T-shirts. Yeah. He's like, yo, kangaroo's. He's like, what? Apex, man, QSEC, no, Daphne, Zaniga, he's got probably space balls the next year. How about Apex Mountain for whatever sexual position Gibb's roommate is pulling? Is I, honestly, he, we should have put him in the M-way this, he was great, I've never seen it before. I don't even know what you would call it. Is that the spelunker? Like, what's he doing? He was a skit. Where do they come? Skinkrowers or skin walkers? He was like a skin walker. You believe in skin walkers? No. I don't know. What are skin walkers? It's on Instagram. You can, if you follow like any of those weird accounts, they'll start serving you skin walker stuff. What are you talking about? It's like the wide shot of like, there's like a security camera to bank and like a skin walker walks by. It's like these little skeletons that walk where they kind of do with the sexual position in the dorm room. Cause they have like their legs are backwards. No, what the fuck are you talking about? Well, I've never seen this. You've never seen skin walkers? No, I'm just like like an AI like, they obviously I'm following better on Instagram or casting. That's like, although I may be done with Instagram, I'm tired of the AI. Oh, yeah. I'm tired of getting fooled by the AI. I saw one the other night of like, I was like, I was pretty gripped by it. I got, I got hoodwinked with, you got clanked. People is like a, uh, a skyscraper pool, like a pool that looks out of this guy and if the glass starts to break and they're like, oh, it's AI. I was like, fuck dude. I was like, this is pretty good. I saw one where there was a fist fight at a game and the guy got punched and rolled down the stairs and went off the baseball stadium, like triple deck, and we would have heard about that. And I was like, I probably would have seen this on Sports Center at this happening. Yeah, they would have let Sports Center back. Coming up next. Honestly, can you imagine if Sports Center just became like the chive and it was just like, he's like an incredible thing that happened. That's what they should do at Sports Center's just do AI videos. Yeah. Crowd lights. Yeah. It's just ridiculousness. Instead, it's like Saturday or Saturday. What do you got first, Jeff? I told Shrager, he's got to do Peter's pants. That could be his hook segment and it's time for Peter's pants. Yeah. Then he like has pants and it's dorm doing skin walker of the week. Is a skin walker a real thing or a made up name? This is like the kind of terrifying because he's like, he, I don't know. First of all, how you made that association. You were talking about his body, it was like bent in a weird spot. Where did that phrase come from? Is that, what is a skin walker? Oh, here's a skin walker. Look at dogs barking at the skin walker. Yeah. Bill, they're like skeletons. - Dude, man, I'm telling you that it's not Instagram. - I don't know what's going on. - Oh my God. - Wait, I have more Apex Mountain skin walkers. - Yeah. - Anthony Edwards now. - Did you say road trip movies? - I was about to. - Yeah, road trip movies now. - Is it that run? - This or Green Book? - No, it's been that run. - Green Book. - We got to step here and do some music. - Hitchhiking? - No. - Shotgunning beers. Has it been done better? Has it been a more integral part of a movie podcast? - Did they shotgun beers in Animal House and Mike for getting that? - I like how they bring it back in this where she does it in front of her boyfriend. - It's really funny. - I'm gonna say yes. Nikola shared and no, desperate otherwise. - She also does, she shotguns it in real life. I mean, she crushes that, she does a good job. - It's 45. - Is he drinking beers just in this guy's car? Like at 10 in the morning? - Yeah. - That is pretty funny. I'd be pretty annoyed by that. - 80s teen movies now. - Crews are hanks. - I got Hank Spielberg for Crews. - I have Hank Spielberg as well. This would have been a good time, Hank's movie. - Although you're right, Crews easily could have been the Anthony Edwards part. - Yeah. - Talk to the crew of this buddy. - What role would Phillip see more often in play? And I think it gives buddies. - Oh, it's definitely Lance coming to you. - Definitely Lance. - And then when Gibbs like, I can't come, he's like, shut the fuck up, shut up, shut up. (laughing) - You're like, hey, Gibbs has the peepin. Picking ants. How did Gibbs actually get in the cowboy rapist truck? - He jumped in the truck bed. - But how did the trucker not know? - I think he was more interested in taking off his white ring and stuff. - We talked about this, but why is the shirt thing so excited about meeting Gibbs? - Yeah, we don't know. Pretty sure she has plans every night. - And Lance completely bottles it by being like, he's gay and a virgin. - Yeah. - When it's like, - Well, she was trying to, it was a ploy to make her feel bad for him. - I guess, it was just such a weird move. - The whole thing's a little weird. - But Lance, a good friend. - Well, it actually leads me to a possibly unanswerable question, which is, you know, in the beginning of the movie Gibbs, like I had sex six times in high school, sophomore and junior year mostly. And I'm like, you think he's lying? Do you think Gibbs is a virgin? And that's why he's like, I'm willing to go all the way across the country to get laid. So he's doing the Niagara Falls area. - Yeah. - He's like, I had sex six times. - Yes. - But Lance seems to know that he had sex. - Lance just seems to be taking his word for it, but I don't think he's interrogating it much. 'Cause it seems to think Gibbs like in a slump. - Yeah. Well, he's using all this astronomy pick up lines. I mean, like, start there. - Yeah, out of space, it just never really works. - Yeah. - But then we find out, like later, like, you know, that's when friends went off the wheels a little bit when Ross was using that out Rachel. He took her to, like, the astronomy, whatever to try to get her. - Oh, yeah. - It's like, look at the stars. - Oh, the, I-- - I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. - No, but like, isn't it, like, the-- - The strontary. - Plantitarian. - Plantitarian. - The edit at the end is very 80s and corny. When she reads the essay, for some reason, the class stops. Everybody just starts talking. It's just chaos in the class. And she comes up to him. And it looks like they're about to kiss. And then it cuts to them on the roof about the kiss. And it's just like-- - Let him kiss. - I don't know. - Yeah. - I don't know if that wouldn't work. I don't know if we had the technology in 1985 for that. - The only thing, Liz and I, we're like, oh, I think I could have lived with another couple minutes. Like, it ends so abruptly. It's like this awesome resolution, and they're on the roof, they're kissing credits. I could have, like, had them exchange a couple lines or something. - But this is your rule. - But it's only 92 minutes. Like, it could have been 94 if you give me a little bit. I mean, I feel like you build up all the way to this and then it ends. It kind of cuts you a little-- - Was this your flex? - Well, yes, that. And then a small picking knitzer. I feel like Gibbs pajamas on this trip are fucking bizarre. - Yeah. - He's in like a really like translucent, dirty, white cutoff. That's like almost a V-neck. - Yeah. - And like thin, capri gray sweats. - It's got an awesome-- - Really weird. - And she's like a jump on in bed. - And he also is like, how many clothes did he pack in that double bag? - He also has a nice suit to wear for dinner that's like perfectly ironed. - Yeah. - Yeah, I don't know how much, I don't know how he was able to pull that off. I could have gone with another like four minutes at the Hawaiian party. - Yeah. - We didn't need to just be immediately centered on him versus Allison. I could have met a couple other people. - Sure. - I was almost thinking this could be a Craig rewatchable's category. - How many minutes should this movie have been exactly? - It's never, he's never satisfied with the length. - Do you know what though? - Even when it's 90 minutes, he's like, I could have gone for another eight. - The show could have been 10 minutes longer. I think this just needs a minute more at the end for the resolution. - I just don't know what they need to do there. 'Cause that's when I think you get into like, it's the graduates. Like now what with them? You know, like-- - Yeah, this is a football game, which is real champions, right? - It might even just have been the editing was so quick. Like it was just, they really like get in and get out. - Secret, prequel, prestige, TBL, buttcaster, untouchable. - You know, there's like definitely a prestige TV kind of something that you could have pulled off with this. I just don't know where it goes. - I just don't turn it. I'm just trying to think of the other day, like if there are really good road trip TV shows that aren't like Kung Fu. Like there aren't like, the whole point is like this person goes from town to town but how long could there road trip be before it would be like-- - So could it be like seven episodes each day is its own episode? - That's a long time to be getting into hijinks. - I think it may be untouchable. - This is so perfectly paced where you think that they're on the road, the whole movie. They don't get into Tim Robbins' current until the 31st minute. You get so much time in college getting like the opposites part before they attract. It's really great. - All black cast could have worked too. Is this movie better than Wayne Jenkins? - You could add the Grambling thing, really work, you know? - Is this movie better than Wayne Jenkins or everyone else we have in this category? - I haven't done Brindley in a while. You know, and I was just imagining what happens like Allison and Gibb are together for a little while and then here's your Allison going down to the mailbox to get her latest copy of Branta or the Paris Review. What does she find instead? She finds heartache, Gibb. Another one of your letters to Penn House has been published. (laughing) - Do you think Gibb gives up his, you know? He obviously wants, I know that's his roommate's letter but Gibb gives up like the writing letters to Penn House even after him and Allison do the deed. - Yes, okay. - I do. I had long legs picking them up with their hitchhiking. - Come on in the car, Allison. - She's pretty much like sure, whatever. - I gotta get out of here. - It seems like you're fighting with that boy. - Just one Oscar who gets it. - Ryder? - Ryder. - Yeah, I think it's Ryder. - Probably an Ansible Questions. What kind of credit card bill was her dad looking at in January? - Is that dinner alone? It's granted it's 85. - Couple of hotel rooms. - Yeah. - Some food on the way. - Six hundred bucks? - In 1985? - Yeah. - Sounds good. - And you think Gibb and Allison, you think they made it a year. - I think that they maybe make it to first semester, sophomore year but then it really starts to come apart. - I think that's been an airmeal football that really kicks in a high gear for him. - What piece of memorabilia would you want or not when I'm from this movie? - I would take the actual essay that closed the movie with whatever the written one was called. - I would even take the one with the pepperoni stains on it. - Yeah, either one. - Coach Finstack Award. By the way, was that handwritten that essay, right? - Yeah. - I think so. - That we should have put that in what's the most 98-5 things about the handwriting the essay. - And writing your words. - I didn't see any like word processors and typewriter or anything like that. Coach Finstack Award, Best Life Lessons. Next time just take the bus the whole way? - Well, I didn't get to this and probably answer the questions. What's the return trip plan? 'Cause it gives like, I'm broke, I can't fly. So if he's in LA, what's the plan to get back to class in time to start taking tests? Is it? - He's borrowing money from plants. - Yeah. - Okay. - Who's at that point has become one of the, one of the best madams in Hollywood. - He's messing up. - He's messing up. - Investing in the Clippers. - Yeah. - Best double feature choice. I had stand by me. - I have one crazy salary. - Oh. - Yeah. - I like it. - And then who won the movie? It's probably Q-Sack, but we'll say Ryder for this one. Any last thoughts, Greg? - I agree with you. This and Risky Business are probably my two favorite teen movies that I've never seen before. So good. - Well, we haven't done secret in my area yet. I'll be interested to see how that resonates with you. This is great. - Yeah. - Maybe this will inspire somebody to just pay for the music and have this stream again. - It's the lost Rob Reiner class. - I really can't tell what the deal is here. I guess it must be the soundtrack. - Yeah. That's it. All right, P-Rob Reiner, we're gonna miss you. - Good to see you, man. - Thanks, CR. Thanks, Craig. Thanks, Gahau. See you next time in the rewatch, boss.