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The Summer We Turned Pretty (with Bowen Yang) | 63

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The Summer We Turned Pretty (with Bowen Yang) | 63

The podcast features a lively, humorous, and deeply personal conversation about Justin Bieber’s new album *Swag*, blending fan theories, pop culture references, and personal opinions. The hosts, Bo and Yang, explore the album’s emotional tone, criticizing its interludes—especially Drewski’s features—while praising tracks like "Walking Away" for their introspective depth. They also dive into conspiracy theories about Bieber’s personal life, including rumors of secret relationships, and reflect on how such narratives are often fueled by TikTok culture. The discussion moves beyond music to critique broader pop culture dynamics, such as award shows and fan communities, emphasizing the need for safe, inclusive dialogue. A major focus is the upcoming Culture Awards, where the hosts propose absurd yet insightful categories like “Best Publicist” (honoring Tree Payne) and “Biggest Disappointment” (for a parent’s forgotten prayer). The conversation also touches on identity, allyship, and the complexities of LGBTQ+ relationships, questioning whether true support exists between different communities. Throughout, the tone remains playful and satirical, using humor to navigate serious topics. The episode concludes by celebrating the joy of shared fandom and the freedom to speak openly about pop culture, relationships, and personal struggles.

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this week on let me say this we are talking about justin bieber's latest album swag and we're joined by bo and yang to chat about the last culturistas culture awards but first it's summer and i'm pretty i've always said that i've always said that about us summer we bloom no well especially me yeah and you're in your belly era you know what time belly how do you mean i'm in my belly era i'm not in a love triangle although i could be i was just gonna say she's like i think belly's for the streets but despite the rain she's for one street and cousins i'm like girl meet someone else my sister my sister get out of that town free belly from cousins um i love the summer i turned pretty yeah i am yeah let's go back for a minute yeah we went back we're in season three now but season one we sat up straight when we opened amazon prime i'm saying no when i see jenny han attached i'm pressing play immediately a lot of people remember my to all the boys summer oh you remember i literally got a netflix screener shouldn't have done this and was like every girl i know come over to my house and watch this movie with me because it's actually the best thing i've seen in a long time and um no i was down bad and when noah centineo turned that little camera around and said you want to show me no boys don't squirt well whatever go ahead go ahead he goes you want to show me how that pussy squirt or what no i thought it was or not which or not kind of adds like a little like hat on top of a hat that was his best work that was second to to all the boys i love before that one snapchat video that got leaked his his best work was actually when he unfollowed me on twitter and i can't remember why but so many girls that summer dm me was like can you please get him to follow me back and i was like wait that's insane and then fourth is no i understand that i'll never understand but i still stand no that wasn't it no that i don't know what he said i was not off book for that one no you need to be off book it's not what you do but it's what you do about what's been done that's who can have exactly exactly it was about as nonsense as that and he was right to say it no and everyone was like no wake that conversation up it was in the era of black squares too but oh and thank you jenny han because you gave birth to truly it's so many moments it's giving like the lena denham degree of being able to pick and choose talent because every every actress that she's ever cast i'm like oh and lola i adore i love her she is so pretty yeah i love her she's so pretty yeah she is and i love the color like the kind of like reddish tone of her hair too i think yeah absolutely stunning belly see i struggle with sometimes belly i'm like we gotta get you out of these brothers well get you away from these brothers girl let's let's set it up a little bit now final season the love triangle between belly and the brothers conrad and jeremiah continues into their college years belly and jeremiah are together yeah spoiler alert so if you haven't if you're not caught up then skip ahead jeremiah cheats on her in cabo and of course many such cases yeah of course he's like oh it's just me and my girlfriends and it's like like the girls in his like the like sister sorority i'm like yeah no lips like that you're cheating you're cheating in cabo yeah no lips like that you're cheating um belly breaks up with him and he decides i need to fix it so guess what he does buys the tiniest ring you've ever seen and says i'm gonna put a ring on it microscopic like i feel like i'm that boy you need to tell a photo spy kids like the little glasses to see that ring like the woman that's kneeled over squinting like this yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah no and i i don't i have really no opinions on diamonds lab grown boots i it does not matter to me but it needs to be bigger than that for sure yeah and mind you i'm like how are you affording this ring at all given that you are currently i think twenty thousand dollars in debt yeah to your deadbeat dad wait can i go back for a second here is the tea they were on a break i need to wake that conversation up a little bit more i mean i shouldn't be the one making that conversation up given my history oh why don't you share with the class wait take it back no no no take it back no go ahead and share with the class no i'm i'm actually let me let me just phone a friend let me phone an op i'm gonna regret that but i'm only ever gonna be who i am okay we learned we heal we grow but they were technically broken up what do you think i did not think that deeply about it i'm gonna be honest i'm gonna be honest i just feel as though she shouldn't be with him to begin with right right so yeah i mean did he cheat did he just explore a new connection did a hot new bombshell just enter a villa i don't know i'm gonna say i don't know but but it's a sign yeah it's and the fact that they didn't even know whether they were on a break that miscommunication at all says it all well okay that leads me to something i really want to talk about with this show is i was having a conversation with some friends about um like how dramatic the dialogue is between belly and jeremiah and i was like uh sorry like do we not all read twilight like that's how it goes like teenage early 20s feelings are just so over the top this is the love of your life you would rather die yeah then go on without them like that's actually how i still communicate in fact yeah and i'm working on that yeah but we're getting a lot of things it sounds like yeah but i'm concerned for you yeah that's okay and let it be let my sister up in prayer um and let's call it alandria's prayer i love i love nickel andrea you will find back to them um okay this is i mean okay i'm sorry i'm sorry but i love conrad i think oh sorry sorry i love conrad i think i love my sad no my sad little boy okay so you're team conrad i'm team meet someone else but i am but i do like conrad for her i think and it's like uh that scene where she like announced her name and she's like oh my god i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry and i'm talking about red table talk everyone is like are you joking are you pregnant brother says uh excuse me let's let's stop shut this down the mom says we're leaving um the dad says you want to marry him talking about his own son conrad is just sitting at the table like i guess i'm just gonna drive my honda accord back to the house like it's very what you say yeah yeah yeah i i feel bad for conrad and i i feel bad do you think that his little friend is in love with him his like friend from work yeah obviously oh okay yeah i thought i thought so that's kind of right there on her forehead oh well i don't know i don't know why but i conrad a doctor but he can't get an ssri prescription sorry he's not a doctor he's on his way he's on a doctor yeah hopefully well i guess i'm begrudgingly team conrad who's who are you between jeremiah and conrad okay between jeremiah and conrad i am team jeremiah of course you are you love green eyes i love no i don't close them i i love bisexual boys is what i do and you think he is i'm like not saying this about him because he's like 12 years old but by dick in general does go crazy and so i he you think he is he is in the first season he's like sucking a fucking everybody he's equal opportunity for sure and i think like he went through his street phase i i don't trust conrad as much as i don't trust jeremiah let me sorry let me diagram that sentence you don't trust conrad as much as you don't so you don't trust them equally i don't trust them at all yeah i mean but they are um boys yeah i was gonna say yeah i i wouldn't trust an 18 year old boy with anything you know how i do dress up i'm team taylor and steven i am i love endgame steven i think he's so cute he's so cute i love him and his like like he's the only one with like thinking rationally yeah and taylor too i i like taylor i really like them together there's mom i love taylor's slutty mom yeah and her short shorts and her hair salon well we gotta get that together spoiler she's gonna trim her own ends i think but but she's summoning a like a early 20s boy to do her like taxes girl we gotta grow together well it's called using your resources well you gotta call me irena and i will get you correct who is irene my tax lady irena irena no she's she's it but i love that crazy i love when a mom is a mess because it's it's nice to see yourself reflected in media yeah it's like i know that that's my truth no but watching this i was watching with my friend and i was like oh like this forever um like i'm just in my white bag right now like sometimes a boy not texting you back or like a boy leaving you on read truly feels like the end of the world it's like and i'm taking everyone out with me so guess what so guess what you would really enjoy the hunting wives and that's all i'll put that down so we can pick it up in a different episode interesting okay i love it um the thing about these ya boys now they're taking it but i don't know you can't compete where you can't compare we had a chad michael murray government name oh i love when people have three names in one it's always so nice like it but i will say we're maybe just in our 30s now so it's like we can't look at these boys and be like oh heartthrob because they're brains are developing yeah i know but but i i don't know it's like john tucker must die where did he go uh i think he's on something else right now i don't know if you've heard of a little robert pattinson this is me jesse mccartney oh yeah i thought you're gonna say jesse mccartney because also him summerland oh oh my gosh beautiful soul and let's talk about it yeah um oh that's such a good song it's a really good song diamond oh my god that song played in in an uber i took from the airport in rome and i was like i feel like this is wire like i think the thing about those was like the white boys had a little black in them yeah these white boys they got a little bisexual in them so you know but you love a sad boy so i don't know why you're not team conrad wait that's true because i was always actually damon and i was always team edward yeah and what is conrad if not if not just depressed no i'm gonna say a shade darker than edward he is do not put conrad fisher and edward collin in the same sentence ever again in front of my black face no ma'am and that was the craziest sentence i've ever said on this podcast i thought it was when you said cheating rights cheaters right i didn't say cheaters right i said there was context you didn't say cheaters right i said there were context again here she goes again oh my if i were right i would be red right now but okay we can't we can't do like a mary fuck kill and that we legally won't we do not want to do a mary fuck kill with the you know teen characters but we will do it with the parents i would say mary fuck kill yeah belly's mom they're like deadbeat dad the fisher deadbeat dad and the taylor slutty mom i'm straight for now i don't honestly everyone can do what they want to do but who i'm killing is belly's dad i don't know i don't something about him just really gives me the ick i'm like i don't know take that somewhere else no well i'm putting it i'm putting him on the table i'm putting on the table to turn it because i've had enough and also i'm like belly's mom is so like girl like still got her groove back like let's let i want i want more for my sister yeah and so would her dead friend um suzanna yeah suzanna is like low-key like step it up a little bit um from the heaven above yes yes yes yes i don't i don't like him i don't like him for her i don't like it and even it seemed like the kids are kind of over it i guess they're like where's dad i don't know okay great whatever yeah yeah um and now she gotta deal with this child oh my god i yeah okay so you go fuck mary kill any of the parents um well i would marry the mother because she's the only one that's got her shit together it seems yeah or i'd marry the dad for money doesn't the fisher dad have money i think he does and also is he he's kind of hot he's not not hot and i he's marked up with a table and i hate to say it but i think he and i are aligned on jeremiah so because what what are you talking about you're gonna get married with what money and live where you can't even graduate you're not gonna get married he said excuse me i'm paying for another extra semester of tuition so it sounds like you did want to play the game you had more people to kill no maybe some people to i'm i'm saying i might marry him oh okay marry him for the money and also because we need to get jeremiah's life together i mean i am gonna fix it like immediately i i want better for him yeah and i definitely want better for belly maybe belly becomes bisexual that doesn't matter to us yet well anyway we'll still be locking in yeah i oh i'm i'm every week every wednesday i have to know i didn't read the book so it's all it's all coming to me new information yeah and i love it that way yep that's how i prefer it yeah okay if you like what you heard stick around for more of us we are talking about justin bieber album swag and joined by bo and yang talk about lost culture rista's culture awards so sorry let me say this let me say this are you looking for a home for your worst opinion are you a hater first but a lover of pop culture second consider this a glorified group chat but we're not calling you out no no no we're calling you in it's a safe space to talk shit but of course from wondery i'm peyton nicks and i'm hunter harris and this is let me say this oh let me say this let me say this let me say this justin bieber drops an album there's no way we're not listening to it there's no way we're not talking about it on this podcast i'm gonna i'm gonna say something yeah crazy okay i could fix him okay i could fix him hey i could hey in a in a respecting his marriage way okay i could fix him all right we're gonna talk about that off the pod but actually i would be in a throuple i would be in a throuple with them you actually would they're the only couple i could see you making it work for like totally yeah you'll put your leo down and pick your empathy up and be like let's do this well i hold both equally you'll put your road up not too much yeah i don't like the implication there but okay um gun pointed directly at me um so let's calm down a little bit um off top favorite tracks swag is a crazy name for the album no no i was like your favorite oh my god i got really nervous maybe it's like throuple boots but my favorite track on the album is walking away a really good song a sleeper hit actually is it really a sleeper hit i don't know why everyone like i get you know yukon i get the like sexy red the gunna songs like but walking away i think is like a really like sort of profound song for a pop star with so many troubled marriage rumors to release like they're working through it in real time um and i'll tell you least favorite tracks okay every time i hear drew ski's voice i think skip race like i'm i'm literally like a tom cruise me running to the skip button to be like i don't think drew ski why is he on every single interlude i don't like it i don't think he's on every single interlude i don't like it i don't think he's on every single interlude i don't like it i don't think he's on every single interlude i don't like it i don't think he's on every single interlude i don't he's a licensed mental health professional. Of course not. I think he's making issues worse, not better. For sure. I don't like the way that, I'm like, how are you supposed to be his friend and you're telling him to smoke these black and milds and you know that's going to do to his voice. This is the vocalist of a generation and you are actively telling him, ruin your voice. I don't like it. I mean, Drewski, unfortunately, he just makes me laugh. Interesting. Okay. Granted, we have to hold space for the fact that this is not the first time Justin Bieber has had a crazy interlude because MLK did make a feature that one day. Oh my gosh. And people don't talk about it enough. And we should talk about it more. That was like race war summer, wasn't it? On the Justice album, I think. Yeah. He really found God and MLK. It's so funny. I was listening to Justice the other day and thinking like, oh, wow. Yeah. And that's a black king right there. Changes in purpose. Now we're talking about a black king. Okay. Here's the thing. I loved this album with a few listens. It wasn't a first initial like, oh my God, this is. This is the greatest album of all time. I don't feel that way. But I think when I gave it a few. I'll listen to an album when it first comes out. I'll listen to it a bunch of times, give it a week, and then my opinion will change. For better or for worse. This for better. I do think that I wanted a little bit more songs for fucking. And I do think the back half of the album kind of blends a bit. But UConn? And also like the TikTok, those little TikTok DJs, those little TikTok edits. There's some good remixes of UConn on there. Agree. I know people like his voice pitched like normal. But I like the tempo that it's. Oh, I don't mind. No, I think it's good. I think it's interesting. I think it's cool for an artist as big as Justin Bieber to just try a lot of new stuff on one album. And I like that he's doubling down on being like, this is not for everyone. It's like for the real believers. Yeah. For the real RM believers. Okay. Yeah. I also really like him with McGee. I think that's a really smart pairing. And I think that's a really smart pairing. And I think I think. Never knew how to say that name. Oh, McGee. Mr. Magoo. A close second. Cousins. But the devotion track is also one of my favorite ones too. Oh, yes. I'm like, oh, this is a song for falling in love. But you know what I'm going to say? What? If he was serious about this God stuff, if he really wanted to say it on business, he should call Kirk Franklin. Oh my God, yes. Like, oh. But that would have been more for justice. That wouldn't have been for this. Yes, it would have. There's not a lot of God in this album. Yeah. Like that one song at the very end. And also like the little bee interlude. A little bee interlude is also a crazy sentence too. So many interludes. That's like my boys for you. Yeah. They love little bee. They love Kid Cudi. They love all of that stuff. I also think I wanted more of a Summer Walker type feature than a sexy red feature on. What's the name of that song? Don't know. That they have together. I just call it the sexy red. Sexy red song. Yeah. I didn't love sexy red's contributions to that. Well. Sweet spot. That's what it's called. I think, you know what I think. Yeah. We don't actually, and Leslie was there. I'm willing to say it. I think she was sent to divide us. I think she was sent to our community to divide us. And did. And to ruin a track for me. But I'm like, you couldn't call SZA. I think some of SZA's team worked on this album too, which is crazy. Yeah. Yeah. I know one of SZA's producers, but it's like, you can call SZA, even like a Doja Cat. I would love to see like a Bieber, Frank Ocean thing. Frank Ocean and Tyler, the creator, and following each other. They got the. Frank Ocean's busy. I know. Listen, no, I'm a child of a divorce, of another divorce. divorce of their divorce um but i did see some uh talk of bisexuality some talk of bisexuality what were the streets saying that he and one of his little friends were it's like you know it's bumping purses uh yes yes hopefully yes um it was like you know real conspiracy theory in a tiktok comments like oh the camera cuts away from him and his friend because like they're secretly together something like that i'm like that's crazy but justin bieber you know everyone's like this is such an overdone joke i don't care it's not a joke it's true justin bieber is of course at the end of the day a lesbian woman no one cries on the street like that unless you're a lesbian oh and two there is one photo when i tell you it is glued to this little empty noggin of mine of him walking on the beach and it looks like he is wearing a binder and i like to round up and think you know what i'm talking about that he is and it's was my phone background for a few years actually totally what signs does pisces oh well that may be cry baby yeah is that pisces cry baby astrology talk valentina favorite bieber lore favorite bieber moments oh you said the binder that was definitely one of them what are you what's yours well almost shutting the door on hayley all those times just just riding off the road off into the streets of new york i was in a rush her um anne frank would have been a believer perfect quote like a really good quote wow once again doing things with the english language that like you've never heard of before standing on like is it even clocking you of course even druski being like you say hard d and business i'm like well that why was that even again not why was even druski on the track a big question well some people think he's funny so i think he's funny i don't think two things can exist my love bisexuality okay he can be funny and also not need to be on a justin bieber interlude three times but why was in the standing on business thing i felt like the joke got killed for me when they even included it in this album like maybe there could have been something with a remix of it if you're gonna do that but just a deep analysis of you confronting the paparazzi on an album i know but it also felt like you're totally not understanding why this is funny correct and even hayley reposting it or like uh quoting it with a billboard and it's like is it even clocking to you fucking losers i was like this is why i should i mean listen that's your family that's your couple no i i listen y'all not everyone's perfect the only perfect man died on the cross okay that was crazy well it's leave jesus at the door tell that to justin bieber he kind of did with this album not really too much with justice i love justin bieber and i want the best for him i don't know what else to say yeah and i and i love this album um i really do too and i really love that it wasn't what i expected i thought it was gonna just be more more poppy and yeah he makes music for bumping and grinding and that's so respectful in a man yeah no it's this is what i should be doing literally this is what drake should be doing but you know he's too busy well getting a woman's business well but i do want like an album of bangers though like i need to throw my ass a little bit yeah come on like just a little just let me hurt my knees okay oh that's all i ask yes peyton i think that we've got quite a guest with us today the ultimate guest actually i people have been actually begging uh show me the text and i will actually yeah they've been banging on the door every every little comment i see you all they said when is bone coming on this podcast we've had matt we've not had bone right yeah and that's just unfair what's that about separating us like is it is it a mind game it's a racial thing actually it's a racial thing yeah i love that no it's just because it's a small set we've had we've had two guests on at a time before cat and pat and it was it was tight but they were fun it was fun it was great it was so worth it only cat and pat could survive a four person like in a tiny studio of course yeah no but you know this is this is good it's like um i i i don't enjoy this much space usually yeah i i i i like that i am i'm i'm flanked quite chicly by you guys and say that and say that we're kind of we are all in we're all wearing jersey shorts jersey shorts jersey short oh but white black and brown the un is here right now united nations it's very united nations wow that's really beautiful um but okay sorry obviously we have with us today boniang hello the i'll say girl i live to key with yes comedian actor sure sure sure in some communities yeah in many communities lately yes so stupid sorry uh this is a space to be dumb though yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah prepare for safety and dumbness yeah it's gonna come out um we have to ask are you a lover or a hater i think i'm a lover i think well i actually don't know which one takes up more energy i right now my answer now is um being a hater takes more out of you in the royals and like the general sense like you just it's just it's hate is a strain love is a release you know what i mean i feel the opposite okay yeah hate is a big release for me oh yeah yeah of course of course and loving it's hard if it's like look how physically the phone moves to the other side of the chair all right you do love that i do love that dr orna graham like oh and say more about that about that yes yes yes can i say watching couples therapy clips on socials at 1.5 speed is actually the way that that show should be watched i'm gonna say that because sometimes they do have a hard time tracking the emotional valence of the people in the room if it's all in real time which i guess is like the whole point of that show but i i like getting like the the fast version i'm a 1.5 so do you have adhd yes right exactly um so let's just get clear that up um follow that disclosure follow-up question are you a lover hater of award shows i am a lover of you know what obviously started as a lover of award shows as i think many people in our generation might yeah begun i think i'm kind of ambivalent about them now is that fair to say i think like we're like i don't know what to expect although i will say it's been a good year of awards in terms of grammys this past year were great true um i might be partial to the oscars being entertaining because because matt and i were able to be in the room and that was interesting but otherwise i don't know every other every other ceremony every every other award i'm just i'm just there to be uh a part of an anthropological study interesting and also a nominee though oh no no let's not do that i'm sorry no i'm just saying i'm just just just for the readers at home for the readers at home yeah yeah i've been lucky i've been fortunate oh what do we think of this i can't quite unpack this totally because i don't have a good memory my therapist says there's a difference between being lucky and being fortunate being lucky means that things just happen to you and being fortunate means that you receive the fortune and then like make of it what you will it isn't we don't have to know i do like that so deeply that was like you just spoke in lesbian to me and that's what i've always said hunter walks out the door no no no it actually i have to share it did take me to when i was at some kind of like um like big event like maybe the fair when i was a child and this woman came up to me and she was like do you believe in luck and i said yeah and she said just like that too as a child yeah and she said then you don't believe in god whoa what and truly walked off that woman grew up to be me wow it was it was really crazy so thank you for unlocking that i like wow it was yeah it was quite a moment how do you think that has affected you in the time since and do you feel like you you've been released of that no um okay but i haven't talked about the culture awards yeah hear me out okay culture awards taped july 17th yeah but they come out they're released august 5th i know you know what that makes them what a leo oh oh my god no no y'all wait can we moratorium can we moratorium on um the astrology of things and concepts and ideas and events i'm i'm sure you guys disagree with me you you you want to keep it going obviously only for leo's only for leo's that's fine fine fine thank you thank you sorry some of us here believe in equal opportunity oh thank god sorry i've i think about everybody what are you you're but that what who's the scale what do you mean in the in the in your in horoscopes right someone's the scale yeah my libra moon yeah oh that's rising oh that's why see that's why we understand that's why we're lesbian i'm i will say maybe this is for off mic i'm having a lesbian moment of meeting someone and then immediately um locking in locking in but it's it's there's no there's no future there's no outlet for it um it's a full like link later moment it is a full like fleabag season two moment of like well of course like intimacy can only be accomplished for gay men in the current state of things when there is um when it's in conflict with circumstance where like someone someone's only in town for a certain amount of time someone's in an urban relationship and that's where they're hitting on you I could go on this is this is this is top of mind no I'm learning so much in an anthropological sense yeah I'm learning so much absolutely okay but okay so the awards are uh Leo what's the cutoff date again who knows who knows like the 20th is usually where things start stop and start that's right what can we expect for the show we can expect um really clever ways of um dodging clearance issues with music with um IP that is not technically under the NBC universal umbrella um and which is you know not a lot actually you go not not the consolidating any anything in entertainment is like I'm not that I'm like pro that but I'm like well yeah it is nice that this is the same this is living in the same sort of big you said I love big business no no I'm walking this all the way back you said build them back you know what leave this in I I want people to know that I can be bought and a few people on this podcast by the way guests or present company included I'm I'm sellout curious I'm sellout forward it's not us it's the system it's the system that we live within maybe if um Zoran is mayor then I wouldn't have to sell my soul just to make rent my social justice warrior Hunter Harris yes yes um what else can they expect musical performances yep I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna reveal this now here after this is a let me say this exclusive oh honorary award tribute to the one and only Alison Janney who will be in attendance and will be feted in the way that she has deserved to even post Oscars I feel like we're not celebrating her enough in the culture and I say this as someone who's not seen the diplomat yet and I can stand there with you by the way no haven't okay should we all start at the same time like that would be fun right checked in on like where we're at with the diplomat I will say um my schedule is quite full I'm far from it I have well I I'm checking in every day on Love Island I am also watching Beverly Hills Housewives oh oh from from the beginning mm-hmm I gotta start on pump rules soon before someone knocks on my door and tapes me to a chair and makes me watch it they will they will the hungies will I think I think you could also start summer house if that's true I'm only oh y'all are putting her to work okay yeah you're right your schedule's full you're fine I'm also a mother a mamacita mamacita you have a dog so I'm gonna put her into work I've got to take her out yeah yeah thank you for that no like that's an act of service appeals to all sectors truly for a quadrant truly for quadrant don't we think absolutely yeah West Wing was for the guys and the girls some girls lesbians lesbian yeah yeah yeah jackal that was such the jackal I'm gonna say more than four things so there might be more than four quadrants dropped it gorgeous and dropped it gorgeous for the gays mm-hmm and the girls I mean whatever I just think she's she's been in the culture and so much she's touched it in so many meaningful ways I Tonya kind of for the gays - I Tonya for the game if you gaze you know deserve something exactly do you know she was that mama Juno right yeah I'm a nail technician I think we should just stick to what we know but what else and then things things that you'll just done tune in for and and love and enjoy I love to be surprised yes I don't actually I'm too much of a control freak but I love if you surprise me that I could do okay I want to work our way back to the culture awards because this year's categories include best movie of all time oh yeah a star is born shoo-in I'm gonna say which I can't believe you did not include in your sort of top top one top top movies I know I think that's like somewhere around like 40 50 yeah I yeah okay yes I'm borders award for store that should come back which whenever I pass the borders in Tulsa Oklahoma that used to be the borders I'm like that used to be borders I always say every time every time I I think of the specter of borders constantly but did you know that it's like a huge look the the the white whale for a lot of vintage shoppers and especially I guess menswear vintage shoppers quote-unquote is that as um apparently in Japan they have these like borders and you know the word books music cafe logo shirts that are so rare and so desirable like so like that is the ultimate thing that people want it's like the Pizza Hut Rolex what is oh you remind me yes I love the Pizza Hut or they used to like give out Rolex that's like their top like franchises and it's like kind of a pretty big coup on the retail market right it's not the internet I'm on but yeah well I had a boyfriend unfortunately me too so that's how I learned yeah that's the pizza that's valuable um best city up-and-coming yes I love how do you like in my mind you are all just like in a group chat making these or how does it come up so it used to be when it was just Matt and I coming up with them it was just all on a Google Doc we were just on a Google Doc at the same time looking at each other's blinking cursors we've all been there and then this year we've had the benefit of having a room which is me Matt Rogers Sudie green iconic Sudie green and iconic Celestia and it is a true I feel like we are cooking with like a six range so like all kinds of dishes yeah yeah it's a lovely little I am not caught up on the bear but I imagine it's with the bear is about I was gonna say six that's a good stove a six range yeah I think that's good yeah I come to say I order anything yeah yeah yeah but it's a really good just try to equate it like the restaurant of your dream I'm like okay we're Olive Garden's kitchen we're really like cooking with fire I love it what advice would you give nominees in the homestretch of campaigning I say look at the DreamWorks Instagram because they are campaigning very hard to win the award for they're nominated in the moon award for shining brightly category and it's the DreamWorks boy on the moon fishing and whoever is working socials at DreamWorks is every day hosting in this is if you're gonna be a pick me in any situation it's when you're up for an award for me if I'm if I'm ever lucky enough to be up for something again I think I'm gonna I think I'm inspired now to like just be be that way if you're ever lucky enough for a fortune wait I do believe in God no I don't know those tables they turn a way you know and talking to hunter I'm realizing that huge snub Aaron Brock bitch mmm I wasn't gonna say it wait but I came with an agenda came with an agenda is Aaron Brock would jump there for you for 20 for 21st century movies yeah but it's also I would say 30s only because I feel like air rockers just so many things so uniquely yeah but it is also a biopic and it's hard to rate biopics very highly interesting yeah yeah okay I'll but blanket blanket hard to rate biopics highly yeah fine I think so I think so fine I think I think music biopics are specifically tough I watch a biopic on any non singer with Gus with with with I'll I will go yeah yeah yeah that's also the way that I have every sports documentary I don't like watching sports that much you love you said you do love sports document I yeah I love them but like watching a full like game of golf Tiger Woods documentary weeping right sobbing watching Tiger Woods play golf actually don't think so terrible not gonna happen aren't you your tennis girl aren't you I am I was just watching tennis actually oh my god it's before okay we have some culture award pitches okay yeah yeah I hope this is also again safe space for mental illness so what because when I read through the names of these categories I'm just like oh no one's well and that feels really good to be in community no one yeah no never has never will be which includes us so we are we're all so yeah yeah of course go ahead you start doing rotate oh yeah okay yeah sorry fun I know how to have fun something about me okay first up these are pitches for you for culture awards okay okay gay guy award for sluttiest close friends Instagram story yeah for sure prison get me out of there by the way prison oh so you don't you don't want it from anyone it will it's not for gay guy I'm not benefiting here of like the amount of tasteful nudes the amount of positions I've seen from being added to a gay guy's close friend story like real creative totally happening by the way I think I can speak for all gay men and say that you are allowed this is for everybody you are allowed to reply to a gay guys tasteful nude close friend story and go I that I this is this is a this is not my culture you respectfully may I be be taken off God forbid someone be an ally. I see a tasteful nude. I see a lot of something. And I say, and you know what? I hope he sees it. I hope he sees it. I hope he does. He doesn't. He doesn't see it. He doesn't see it. Okay, hon, go. Okay. Judi Dench saying, you're too old in Notes on a Scandal award for best read. Yes. Very good. Very good. And then conversely, you want to fuck me. Cate Blanchett saying, you want to fuck me, Barbara. Yeah. For just naming it. Naming the dynamic. Okay, this is a callback. The Mexican Caesar from Chopped award for best salad. This is a callback. This is a cultural callback. By the way, have we shifted politically on this? Not an inch. Not an inch. Not an inch. I have. I'm a chopped girl now. I was not before. Because I had the rap. I didn't like the rap. But I love the salad. And you know what I love even more than the salad? The cookie. The cookie. The overburdened cookie. The overburdened cookie fucks. Yes. I love it. I will order Chopped on caviar and I will order three cookies. And I say in the comments, please make sure all my cookies are in the order. Oh my God. Because sometimes they only give me one cookie per order. And I call and I say, just so you know, I'm owed two cookies. Hunter lives walking distance from Chopped. I just want that on the record. Not that close. I walk to the Chopped and I'm further away. I walk to my Chopped and I still. Y'all are sick. Y'all are fucking disgusting. Sorry that I'm locked in. Sorry that I'm wired in. I'm not leaving the house. I'm tipping the person handsomely. Okay, Hunter, go. And then we'll do one more. I don't know which one to do. I know. These are crazy. My mom, when I forget to pray before eating, award for biggest disappointment. Oh. That's the biggest disappointment. Lighten up, mom. Careful. Yvonne is serious. Yvonne. She don't play. Mrs. Harris? Mrs. Harris? No. Oh, I'm sorry. No. Divorce. Divorce. Divorce. Divorce. Divorce. Yeah. She's Miss Lewis. Miss Lewis. No. Miss Lewis, I understand your disappointment. Sometimes I'm hungry. Okay? Heard. Heard. Okay. The, ooh, let's have a game night. For fun things, we should do more. It feels like there's, are you, are you, but do you want to flip that on its head and be like, game nights are never, are never fun? Because some people have this attitude. There's, there's this, there's this. Who has that attitude? There's a backlash on game nights. Now among, I'm going to say gay men, gay men. Don't, only two gay men allowed a game night. Let's make that clear. First of all, there's a capacity. There's a capacity. I learned that the hard way at a recent game night. Too many gays fighting. It's not that serious. We're high. Like, relax. It's gay guys wanting to perform. Yeah. It's just fishbowl. It's just fishbowl. So as long as you have your limit on gay guy, then you're good. You're safe. That's true of most situations. Yeah. Sorry. It's July. I can say this. Say it. Oh, my God. I'm pro-homophobia. Pro-homophobia. Now, I think here's the question. Earlier, Hunter was saying she was identifying as an ally. Yeah. Can a gay guy be an ally to a lesbian woman? They often are not. And vice versa. They often are not. I'm saying, are those, like, because it's not implied that I would be an ally to you or that you would be an ally to me, but like, do you feel the need, like, in that moment, you're like, I'm not going to, I'm not going to say I'm, I'm an ally to gay men. Because that's, that's not always true. You don't want too many of them at game night. And you don't want to get their close friend stories either. I'm on too many. But gay guys love me some me. They love me some me. Payton, take a shot. I know. Mark, shut up. Like, it's so, yeah, no. Our shot's back. I do love animal. Our shot. Oh! No. Hunter was the animal one time. Hunter liking animal is crazy. It is crazy because. That ketamine den. The back room is where the mop is. It's where the mop is. I didn't see all of that. They didn't. They didn't. They didn't show me all that on the tour. The, the, the shelf. I'm saying the shelves in the bathroom stalls. No, it's, it's, it's absolutely facilitating drug use in a way that is completely naked to me. It's so obvious that that is the purpose. It was giving celebrity sighting, gay friends, or gay friends tweeting, Hunter spotted, literally. No, that, that would gag me. I'd be like, oh my God. By the way, I just want to clear something up. People are crediting. I'm going to say, I'm going to just use, I'm going to say me. People are crediting me with, oh my God, you're the, you're the one who's, who's out there saying Amy, Amy Adams is blah, blah, blah, treat pain documentary biopic. I go, no, that is Hunter Harris. That is Hunter Harris down. That is, that is hung up Hunter Harris. Do not attribute that to me whatsoever. We just help signal boost it. I'm going to get emotional. Signal boost it. We signal boost. And that's it. We signal boost it. No, I think we leaked and built. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. And close us out, hun. Oh, with my perfect transition. The tree pain memorial. Oh, parentheses. She's not dead. Just too busy. Award for best publicist. She's the best publicist. I mean, I mean, I, you want, you want my response to that? She has the most to do with like she is. Do we, I don't think publicist is the right title for her. Like she's bigger than that. She's. She's absolutely bigger than that. Yeah. She's like, she's, she's at, but handler doesn't feel right. Um, handler feels like small. Yes. Publicist feels too like specific for the all of what she's capable of. Yes. I think. Hear me out. It's going to, this is going to sound arch, but I mean this. Archer. Oh, no. I'm just going to Swifty all day. It's been exhausting me. It's exhausting. Yeah. It's hard to be a Swifty. Oh, don't, don't I know it. This is, this is my pitch for Tree Payne's official title. Yeah. Okay. Tree. She's a tree. Oh, she's Taylor's tree. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And she's not even like, not even, I don't even want to make that possessive. It's just like, oh, Tree Payne is the tree. Yeah. In show business. The giving tree. She's the giving tree. And the taking tree. And the. For many other people. Yeah. I'm going to leave it at that. Yeah. I want to, I want to be, no, this is, this, this is like the Zero Dark Thirty movie. Mm-hmm. Tree, Tree like securing, buying back the original six albums. With Taylor, working alongside Taylor, figuring this out. Like that is their, that, like that is their like big, big defining conquest for their, for like Taylor's career and Tree's career, which is to help. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Taylor get back those first six albums. At that price point too. At that price point. I think that's true. And I also think like the side quest of like getting Scooter Braun's marriage broken up is like also a part of that. Yeah. That's, isn't that what Mastermind is about? Wow. I guess I'm on the right reddit thread. I know. I am. I was like, you spend, like I said, mental illness. Sorry, I was a scholar. In this house. Okay. Absolutely. And I was like, okay, so we all need to shut our laptops because our phones don't touch grass. Hey, do you want to take us out? Yeah. Well, guys, thanks to Wondery. Let me say this is a podcast produced by Wondery. By Wondery. Yeah. Thank you to Actors Equity Corner, which is the street that we're on. Shout out to our unions, if we're fortunate enough to be a part of them. And watch the Culture Awards on August 5th on Bravo, streaming the next day on Peacock. Thank you to Hunter Harris, Peyton Dix. Thank you to Hunter Harris, Peyton Dix, for always making me laugh, for being the prettiest girls in podcasting. Aww. I said this earlier. Thank you for that. Of course. I feel like I'm losing the thread, but. No, you picked it up quick. No, and you actually, you actually, you sewed it back at the end. You put it down exactly where you need to, which is us being pretty. So, that's actually what needs to be remembered here today. Thank you, Bowen. Thank you, guys. Thank you, Bowen. Where can people follow you? Oh, at Faye Dunaway on Instagram. That's it? Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. Thank you. Have you heard of the news? I did go on Twitter.com. Yes. Do you know what I'm talking about? Janae and- Kenny and Janae broke up. Yeah. Kenny and Janae, okay, sorry, Love Island update, excuse me, breaking news, from Love Island USA season six. They went to a birthday party for David Doper. I guess, and something went down, and now all of the people from their season, like everyone on the Click and the Beyond the Velo show, have unfollowed Kenny. Boys included, not just girls. Even the boys unfollowed him. It's too early, I think, to know exactly what went down. People are saying that Janae was approached by Kenny's side chick, that there was something that went down, but it wasn't cheating. I don't know. I don't know what the truth is, but I know for sure that they were broken up. Yeah. Because TMZ said it, and then the unfollows. And their names are not in each other's bios anymore. Did you think that they were going to last this long, though? No, I'm surprised, because Kenny just always seemed kind of immature to me. Right. He really seemed like, you know, I love a man who is an assistant, assistant boots. Yeah. But that's what he kind of seemed like the extent of it. Can I say something, which is like, do we think this is just promo for the show? Like, I wonder if people are watching Beyond the Velo. No, because I don't think Janae would do that. That's true. Yeah. I have more respect for her girl. If it were someone else, maybe. Like more like a- Not anyone in PPG, of course, but it was like, I don't know, another girl but um but i don't think janae would do that especially from how like they played in her face during her season many times so many times yeah well we stand with janae and ppg we do we do um are you wearing black to mourn the occasion no i don't know why i'm wearing black actually i don't have anything to mourn i guess i don't like you yeah i know i maybe i'm wearing black because i'm locked in because did you see that video of hunter biden talking about what it's like to smoke crack and i said that's me on it's decaf so he said even still i said make sure it's decaf i'm not i'm not just on decaf i'm on three euphoria listens oh lord euphoria does more for me than therapy uh-oh uh-oh yeah i don't know if you can tell yeah yeah yeah um but i also you look good thanks i'm shy i know i i heard there was a mask shortage am i saying that right you are i'm trying to cultural appropriate nope i'm trying to cross cultural connection i heard there was a mask shortage um not in this room period is that is that the proper usage hunter is doing her best to call me mask right now i know i i i love that you look like a boy that would like cut class like you look like a boy in the background of freaks and geeks oh i think on the freaks side okay thank you that's what i'm going for i'm losing it now but yeah i was originally going for you look like a boy who would be like having his head down on a desk yes yep yep you look like a boy or sat back with legs way too wide who gets the test and just walks out of the room wait who does that what school did you go to people didn't study me oh i'm like trying to take that on but really i was like class president you said yeah um he didn't do the homework yeah like that was me so it sounds like some cultural appropriation it is i'm always trying to give mass but then i can't miss this little waist so i don't know sorry i'm in a tank top by the way i'm in a boot girl everyone who listens watches hopefully yeah get a good get a good peek at this um wait i'm in my mask era because i did go to three oh and don't i know it i was like liberty game i want to text you to see like what you were doing one night and i saw your location and i was like oh she can't be at barclays again three times in one week oh so you live there now i pay rent there yeah i bought property at barclays center yeah yep to support my girls yeah and they need you they really do i was like oh tasha cloud's playing a little bit better she might know i'm here actually i found out her girlfriend's six three years old so i'm like oh my god i'm going to be a so let me put that conversation right back down interesting when miss ellie the elephant is sitting right there i met ellie okay i met ellie and i'm actually glad you brought it up yeah because let me just set the scene a little bit what scene okay go for it we are in a sweet curtsy shout out away away luggage thank you so much um and peyton you you literally heard ellie was a few minutes ago and you ran like you say bolt in this bitch not even that you ran like a father who doesn't want to change a diaper we'll unpack that later you ran like i don't even know what it was great like a teen in a mall yep you ran in a crazy way on my way to hot topic i said there was peyton oh there she went there she's she oh it was crazy yeah thank you i yeah i felt a little bit betrayed that's on you should have put your tied your running shoes it was like the leftover it's like you it's like you were just gone yeah yeah what a random reference to bring up i love that i love the left yeah anyway so you met ellie and how did i go ellie it went okay i'm gonna say something that's gonna sound weird and i don't care because i don't care anymore i'm just gonna be myself these days artist way um and i run into the room where it's a group selfie and then i was like i have to have like a moment with her she has to see me i'm one of the few black people here so let me stand up straight and when i see her i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh she presses her trunk into my face i shut my eyes and when i tell you like that's intimacy like it was so she has a really gentle touch and she has a way about her i sound like a furry she has a way about her that's just an essence like an energy that she's so in her body you know what i mean and we just i said i see i see you i said we see each other it's really beautiful wish i could have experienced it myself but no i was left behind um but i did like in the video that you took she was like like a little bit of a neck pop i was like and ellie is a black woman confirmed she really better be of course she is she has to be no i've heard that she is i've heard that she's a black woman and a black gay guy and i would hope there's all that energy spent i'm assuming it's multiple people yeah there have to be multiple ellies um and i and i love it and i respect it yeah um call me peyton the elephant i have a tiny ring too belly so i don't like it i don't like the implication that that ellie the elephant is broke so what do you mean that's true she got money boots yeah actually i believe that and also all of her accessories did you see the video of her someone holding her back whenever someone so they're always holding her until far that no no no no i'm saying someone was holding ellie the elephant back because she's about to run onto the court when sabrina got a technical file yeah yeah look at me knowing things yeah okay i'm just talking valentina ally thank you no but this expect this allyship to be returned when it's time for the u.s open well you will go ahead get to work on that box well that's it for this week as usual we are two online so you don't have to be i'm so excited for the last culture is cultural awards i hope that this podcast becomes something that's what culture wouldn't be nominated so who said that 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Key Points:

  1. The podcast discusses Justin Bieber’s new album *Swag*, highlighting its emotional depth and the creators' personal reactions to its themes of love, faith, and self-reflection.
  2. A major point of discussion is the alleged bisexuality or secret relationships among Justin Bieber and his friends, with some listeners interpreting TikTok rumors as evidence of hidden dynamics.
  3. The hosts critique the album’s interludes, particularly expressing disdain for Drewski’s features, calling them inappropriate and damaging to Bieber’s artistic integrity.
  4. The conversation touches on pop culture references like *The Love of Your Life*, *Belly*, and *Red Table Talk*, using them to explore themes of teenage love, miscommunication, and emotional intensity.
  5. The group humorously debates fan theories, including the idea that Justin Bieber’s music reflects deep personal struggles, such as his marriage and mental health.
  6. A key cultural theme is the critique of fandoms and award shows, with the hosts advocating for a safe, inclusive, and satirical space to discuss pop culture without judgment.
  7. The Culture Awards are highlighted as a central topic, with the hosts pitching absurd yet meaningful categories like “Best Publicist” (honoring Tree Payne) and “Biggest Disappointment” (for a parent’s forgotten prayer).
  8. The discussion reflects on identity, allyship, and inclusivity, questioning whether different communities (like gay men and lesbian women) can truly support each other in meaningful ways.

Summary:

The podcast features a lively, humorous, and deeply personal conversation about Justin Bieber’s new album *Swag*, blending fan theories, pop culture references, and personal opinions. The hosts, Bo and Yang, explore the album’s emotional tone, criticizing its interludes—especially Drewski’s features—while praising tracks like "Walking Away" for their introspective depth. They also dive into conspiracy theories about Bieber’s personal life, including rumors of secret relationships, and reflect on how such narratives are often fueled by TikTok culture.

The discussion moves beyond music to critique broader pop culture dynamics, such as award shows and fan communities, emphasizing the need for safe, inclusive dialogue. A major focus is the upcoming Culture Awards, where the hosts propose absurd yet insightful categories like “Best Publicist” (honoring Tree Payne) and “Biggest Disappointment” (for a parent’s forgotten prayer). The conversation also touches on identity, allyship, and the complexities of LGBTQ+ relationships, questioning whether true support exists between different communities.

Throughout, the tone remains playful and satirical, using humor to navigate serious topics. The episode concludes by celebrating the joy of shared fandom and the freedom to speak openly about pop culture, relationships, and personal struggles.

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The podcast discusses Justin Bieber's latest album 'Swag' and features a conversation about the 'Lost Culture Awards,' blending pop culture commentary with personal opinions and fan theories.

Listeners highlight 'Walking Away' as a profound and emotional track, while 'Sexy Red' and features with Drewski are criticized for being unappealing or overused, with some noting a lack of diversity in features.

Yes, there are discussions about fan theories and online speculation regarding Justin Bieber's bisexuality, including a reference to a photo of him wearing a binder, though these are framed as jokes or internet rumors rather than confirmed facts.

The Culture Awards are highlighted as a celebration of pop culture, featuring humorous, inclusive, and often satirical categories like 'Best Salad,' 'Biggest Disappointment,' and 'Gay Guy Award for Tasteful Nudes.'

The podcast proposes absurd categories such as 'Gay Guy Award for Sluttiest Close Friends Instagram Story,' 'Best Publicist' (with a humorous title shift to 'Tree Payne'), and 'Best Salad' from Chopped, blending humor with cultural commentary.

The hosts openly embrace a 'safe space to talk shit' approach, valuing candid, sometimes humorous, and unfiltered opinions as a way of engaging with pop culture without judgment.

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