The STRANGE Jenson Huang Exit, and the "Pick Another Protein" Win, with Sean Davis and Sohrab Ahmari, Plus Shock Chris Watts Prison Behavior | Ep. 1440

Welcome to The Megan Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at NEAST. Hey everyone, I'm Megan Kelly, welcome to The Megan Kelly Show. Lots of news today, including a potentially new approach to the war in Iran, and Mark Levin is mad again. You're shocked, I know. And this time it doesn't have anything to do with his AOL email account, which he's been raving about all week is very upset with AOL, also MySpace and Blockbuster. But first, the story that's rocking the world of AI and tech that could have a major impact on the economy as a whole, and there's something fishy about this whole story. Jensen Huang, the co-founder and CEO of NVIDIA, it's a huge chip-making firm that's led the way an AI is officially out of his own company. He founded it back in the early 90s, famously was like sitting in a denny's and came up with the idea. This is long before we had the reliance we do today on computer chips and certainly well before AI. And now he's literally one of the world's richest men. He's one of ours. I mean, this is an American company and this guy made it happen and he's very close with President Trump and he travels the world giving speeches and so on. And like every other country on Earth would love to have this guy as one of their own. They wish they had Jensen Huang and yet somehow now he's disgraced and pushed out of this American company and it's all over news of two extra marital affairs. Now one was with a suspected Chinese spy, which you would think, ah, okay, but he didn't get fired after the news broke that he was dating a Chinese spy. The thing that seems to have, you know, broken the camel's back, the straw was news that there's an underling at his company. She's a senior executive, but everyone's an underling to him. And he were having an affair. This is all very strange. What is this? This company and Vidya is the world's top supplier of those little chips that power artificial intelligence. And it's the second most valuable public corporation in the world. It trails only Apple. So it's hard to overstate what a dramatic and very sudden fall. This has been for Jensen Huang commentators at both Bloomberg and Fox Business have recently said he's the most important, he's probably the most important CEO in the world. Just last year Forbes ranked him number one and it's list of the 100 most powerful people in business. The New York Times broke the story about his relationship with this woman who's Chinese and the alleged spy for China, but now some are raising questions about whether there is some other motivation here for his sudden ouster. Why did he agree to step down from a company he founded? As I said, it was back in 1993, as the internal investigation, the board announced on Sunday had not even gotten underway. This is all very strange joining me now. Sean Davis and Sorab Amari Sean Davis is the CEO and co founder of the Federalist Sorab is US editor of unheard. 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Try Quo for free, plus get 20% off your first six months when you go to Quo.com/MK. That's Q-U-O.com/MK. Guys, welcome back. So I don't know what's going on with this guy being effectively deposed. He met the woman who's got the same last name as he does. Her name is Alice Wong, no relation, and Jensen Wong, and they met reportedly, the New York Postures reporting this morning, many years ago, like maybe in the late Auts or early 20 teens through her husband, she's married and so is he, who was doing business with Jensen's firm. And so they've reportedly went way back, then a year ago in the New York Times, it was reported that these two were seen together at some sort of a conference and so on. And there was a question about, what does that mean? And then the New York Times reported the news that our Intel agencies, some of them, one of them we don't know, had identified her as a spy for China. But now there are questions Glenn Greenwald had retweeted this analysis by a guy named Arnaud Bertrand today, raising serious questions about whether that story makes sense because the theory is that she wanted to get Nvidia to sell its chips to China. But there has been, and he has been pushing, Jensen Wong has been pushing to sell his chips to China, thinking, let's get them hooked on our crack cocaine so that they don't start making more of their own. It's better for us if the Chinese are buying their crack cocaine from us than making their own. And there's been a debate underway, I guess, between AI officials in our own country about whether that's the best deal. Like, should we do that? Or should we try to just keep our chips away from the Chinese? And the notion that Wong has been pushing of, like, let's sell ours to them, has been doing okay. Like he actually did manage to sell some. There's been some, you know, it's controversial, but we've been doing it. And apparently the Chinese are not too keen on buying it, because they want to get high off their own supply. They want their own citizens to get high off their own supply by the Chinese made chips. And they don't have a lot of interest in making our AI industry bigger and richer. So it doesn't, I see this guy Arnaud Bertrand's point that the story doesn't make sense. Like, China wouldn't spy on this guy with an eye toward trying to get him to sell more chips to China. Now maybe there was some other goal. You never know what the Chinese, they don't need, they don't need, you know, something that lofty in order to stick a spy on you. But he has fallen in the equivalent of, you know, two seconds in corporate time. And he's literally one of the most powerful men in the world, Sean. So I don't, I see why smart minds are asking for a bit more because it's really hard to believe that the alleged fair with the second lady, who's an American, her name is Kimberly Powell and she's working for him, is the straw that broke the camel's back like, really? I mean, seriously, in 2026 America? Yeah. It's, so I'll just disclose at the beginning, I'm not an AI expert. I'm not a semi conductor expert. I don't own Nvidia. I don't own AMD. I don't own any individual stocks and I don't have time to track all that stuff. One thing I do understand though is how coordinated attempts to take people down work. I've seen it happen a lot. The most obvious version of this would have been the Russia collusion hoax against Trump where we had these dossiers and memos that were whispered about and passed allegedly through classified circles and they all proved we can't show you the details, of course. The Trump was clearly a spy working for Putin and having watched that and having seen how that thing unfolded and having found that it was all nonsense, it was all made up by competitors in an act of sabotage to take down somebody's political rival. I watched this thing with Jensen Wong and I got to tell you, something doesn't add up here. So, we've seen lots of assertions and allegations generally third or fourth hand that somebody saw something from someone from someone and intel that this person was a spy. I would like to see the evidence that this person was a spy because that seems to be a pretty important fact. It doesn't appear to be in dispute that he was having an affair with one or two or ten or however many women I don't know. But I would like to see the evidence that this person was a spy because Huang was out there for a long time talking about wanting to ease export controls. He thought it was bad for the industry. He thought it was bad for the country. Again, I don't have an opinion on that, I just haven't done enough research. So he was out there in the open talking about this and all of this just happening so quickly. By the way, this morning anthropic announced its IPO, I'm sure that's totally coincidental. For all of this to happen in a matter of days, you get drop one that he's having an affair, drop two that's with a Chinese spy, drop three, he was having an affair with direct report, drop four, he's out and then it's all happened on the same day that one of their major non-open source, competitor just have to be dropping its IPO. I smell a rat. None of this adds up. It all seems like a coordinated attempt to take down somebody who's very powerful and very rich running a very important company. And I'm just not satisfied at all with any of the actual evidence we, in fact, we've seen. What do you make of it so, Rabbits? It's just reading a little from Arnaud's report here that Glenn linked to. He writes the following just to underscore it. This is the biggest irony of the whole Alice Wong and Vitya saga. The Chinese government actually doesn't want and Vitya chips and is actively keeping them out of the country. And he points out that and Vitya explicitly framed this as a threat to its business in its latest annual report to the SEC, which is an official filing with the government worth. And Vitya had written, quote, the Chinese government has encouraged customers to purchase from our China-based competitors and has discouraged customers from purchasing, importing or using our data center products. Continues Arnaud. Why does China do that? Because every and Vitya chip a Chinese company buys is one that the Chinese companies do not sell. And domestic chips can only catch up in China if people actually buy them, which means that the notion that the Chinese intelligence was running honey traps to get more and Vitya chips into China gets the whole thing exactly backward. So I'm going to come down more on the side of the mainstream account of this. I should note Arnaud Bertrand can be a very insightful analyst, but it's worth noting that he's a Frenchman who lives in China and almost always presents, broadly speaking, Beijing's point of view. Now that doesn't mean that he's wrong in this case, but it's important context to know that he's like a pro-China guy. And again, sometimes he can be very, very insightful, but it's worthwhile context. In terms of, you know, what this woman was up to, obviously, we're all in the dark, all we have to go by is reporting in the mainstream media, including the financial times, which is quite reliable and good paper, and the New York Times, which in turn rely on US intelligence sources, apparently. But look, I mean, the idea that this, I mean, so the idea that this woman is other Wong, I love my former colleagues at the New York Post gave it the headline and the day of when it broke, Wong, bang, bang, Wong, Wong, I can't remember which way they had it, but it was good. But at any rate, the idea that this person was running a honey trap operation to get a CEO, it needed just be about export controls. It could also be about industrial espionage. It's plausible, given the modus operandi of the Beijing regime. So, you know, in terms of why he fell, I think that the Occam's razor explanation is not the fact that, you know, he had too many affairs or that this latest one with one of his own direct reports. Paul. This is Kimberly Powell. I remember because my best friend from zero to nine was named Kimberly Powell. In fact, in Syracuse, New York, and so much so that I looked up just to see what the age of this Kimberly Powell is to see if it might be my best friend all grown up. We lost touch when we moved. It's not this gal. This gal was born eight years after Kimberly Powell and I were like, not all affairs are the same and the one that I think would be troubling from the point of view of NVIDIA's shareholders from the point of view of the US intelligence community is the Wong lady, not the Kimberly Powell. The Kimberly Powell one is really a question of like management and Jensen Huang's relationship with his own wife, et cetera, et cetera. By the way, as I said on Twitter, this is like a classic case of you cannot beat the book of Proverbs, you know, something like 50% of the Proverbs and the book of Proverbs are something along the lines of beware the strange woman, you know, like she that way lies ruin, stay with the wife over your youth. And it like always is vindicated. Just keep it within marriage and you're not going to be in this situation like poor Jensen Huang, whether or not he's been set up or actually fallen, you know, in fall to a Chinese spy. But the basic mainstream account is what I'm trying to say is not implausible given what we know. The fact that the Chinese have for decades tried to get ahead through industrial espionage. And really, it's like our qualitative edge in when it comes to these kinds of chips is only a few months ahead at a time as far as I understand. And so, you know, any marginal advancement, whether that's through getting the chips or getting the sort of the scamada or whatever it might be that goes into producing them would help them in this kind of industrial war that we're locked in with China. And it's a kind of bipartisan recognition that, that this is, it should be our main priority. I get that. But here's, here's my question. If you accept all of that, why, why are we getting rid of him? Why are we bouncing him out of this company? He definitely effed up. If, if this woman really Alice Wong and Jensen Huang, they're all wrong. If they actually had an affair and she's actually, well, he's admitting the affair now, even though he denied it publicly. But she's actually Chinese spy. He effed up royally, Sean. There's no question. That's a, that's a massive effort. And then he apparently stripped a, a gal who works for him. That's a violation of company policy from what they tell us. I mean, can't there be, I realize the Chinese spy thing is bad. But like, he seems to be one of our best and brightest. It's like, you know, the equivalent of firing Steve Jobs from Apple. Like, isn't there? Why, why is he getting fired? Why isn't it like, you know, Jensen has agreed to take a leave of absence and he'd do it. Everybody does. And Hollywood is going to go to sex therapy to get his urges under control. Whatever. But like, then come, like, he's getting the corporate death penalty. And it does seem like the United States kind of needs this guy running this company. And they have no succession plan either. President Trump is out there tweeting this morning saying the obvious choice is Tim Cook. He didn't want Jensen fire to begin with. But like, there's no succession plan there. I have no idea whether Tim Cook wants to come out of retirement. Do this at all. I mean, it's a severe lapse in judgment. And if he's prone to having, you know, sort of made that lapse once, I think it's not, it's not crazy or unreasonable to worry that he might do it again. Or whether or not there were more instances of the kind with other Chinese nationals. I mean, this is a sort of paramount issue of United States national security. It's not just a product. It's not just a, this implicates warfare. This implicates the ability of the U.S. military to stay one step away. Yeah, but like, he didn't do it. There's no, there's no suggestion Sean that he was complicit or he was actually trying to help the Chinese. And unless that's coming, in which case, for sure, he needs to be fired and also put in prison. Yeah, well, I remember we had a similar story about a woman named Feng Feng a couple of years ago who was getting busy with U.S. Congressman on the Intel Committee. Overseas, all this stuff gets an incredible amount of classified information. And what we got from the media in that instance was a collective yawn. And so looking at the differences between these two situations, I think to me is a fascinating case study in how media hysteria and hype cycles work. I often joke that I wish I had started a PR company and I would call it, how about you do nothing? And the advice I would give to every single person who finds themselves in these frenzied loops is, all right, I get that you're freaked out. How about you do nothing? Because the reality of these hype cycles is they have a shelf life. It's usually one to two to three days in the most extreme circumstances. It might last a week. But if you're able to survive the hype cycle and not make any crazy decisions driven by hysteria and panic and emotion, you usually can survive them. At least you can get to the point where you can make a rational decision based on good information. You can think through the long-term consequences. But in every one of these media hype cycles, the features are always the same. The rhetoric is ramped up. They're targeted at one person. They're designed to make that person hysterical and irrational and force them into a decision in the midst of panic that they wouldn't otherwise make. So again, I don't know if this woman was a spy. I agree with Sorob. It's totally plausible. Of course, it's plausible. This is how the CCP works. But we don't have as evidence. And whenever I see one of these hype cycles, they're designed to make people into to make decisions under pressure, like when you're walking into a car dealership. They're always telling you, well, the sale ends today. You can't walk out today. They're designed to manipulate you into making decisions you wouldn't otherwise make. And why this guy, one of the richest people on earth, one of the biggest brains behind the semiconductor and AI boom, why he would do this? I just genuinely don't understand. He really is so important to the economy. I mean, just look at what the stock market has done recently. As soon as Democrats took over, AI stocks tanked. It was one of the biggest sources of growth in the economy. It might have been the only source of productivity growth in the economy. And now, in less than a week, it seems like that entire sector. And now it's leading light in video have blown up before our eyes. If this is all just coincidence, maybe, but again, something about it just feels and seems odd. The timing of it seems very strange, and I would like more facts and evidence and fewer assertions and allegations without evidence. - I agree, I don't get it. I think there must be another shoe to drop. That's my gut instinct, like there's something else coming because to me, even though it's bad, I mean, hell, on paper, oh, yeah, an affair with a Chinese spy who may have gotten all these Nvidia secrets and given them back to China. That's bad, but really, that's weakness on his part for the honey pot Chinese gal. It's not nefarious conduct. It's like someone took advantage of him, someone performed a crime against him. And okay, you can make the case that we need a CEO who's got the moral integrity to resist affairs. And I get all that, but like, are you gonna find one better than Jensen Wong now? I mean, if you want somebody who's got the moral integrity to resist an affair, he's probably at the peak of those capabilities, like more so than virtually any other man. Because foamy wants almost jeopardize my whole company, the U.S. economy, not to mention my marriage and my family, that I got it now. So I don't know, we'll see. We'll continue to keep an eye on it. I want to keep going and hit some politics with you guys. We're now a week and two days after the Tuesday evening slaughter of the GOP party. And one of my favorites is Jesse Kelly. And he came on last week and made such good points about how, well, in this case, we played a sound bite of Mark Teeson, who was ripping on JD Vance, saying why didn't, why did he just say that the Iran War was to blame? Where was this statement about what a courageous decision it was for President Trump? And Jesse in a bite that went viral went off saying, your damn quote, courage just cost us Texas. I used to live in a red state. Now it's blue. You endangered my life. You endangered my children's lives. So spare you don't get to do your little courageous act. This is to the Neocon war hawks over the lives of my children. Well, enter Rick Santorum, who is definitely of the GOP's Neocon wing. Though he also had a lot of very good ideas when it came to reviving the manufacturing industry, his book was reportedly one of the things that President Trump based his 2016 campaign on Rick Santorum's book on helping the manufacturing class and bringing manufacturing back to the United States. However, when you hear him talk about foreign policy, he sounds much more like the old school Neocon hawk. He gave an interview on the world prayer network on November 5th. And it caught my attention because Jesse, again, was tweeting about it. And I'll tell you what he said. I'll play the Santorum sound bite. And then I'll say what Jesse said and let you guys weigh in. Here we go, slot two. These are temporal issues. I mean, yes, they matter, of course they matter. I mean, you know, you're upset because prices are high. And I don't think the president, a particularly good job of explaining why those, why the war in Iran was so essential to fight radical Islam. But the reality is everybody has to look at what the bigger issues are in the country. And I understand, you know, paying a dollar more or two or $3 more for diesel fuel has an impact on your family. But you have a responsibility as to look beyond just simply, you know, what affects your pocketbook to their issues of life and your issues of certain basic freedoms. And you have an obligation to go out there and frankly vote primarily on those issues and of your family than the price of gasoline. Okay, Jesse writes, I am warning everyone right now. We are going to lose the entire United States of America in 2028. If the GOP messaging does not take a 180 degree turn and run in the opposite direction from quote, you have a responsibility to look beyond your pocketbook and vote for something, something greater than yourself says Rick Santorum, like the Iran war. I mean, that's really what he's pushing here. You have a responsibility, he says, and that you need to overlook that two or three dollars more that you are paying at the pump, which is an insane thing to tell the working class who can barely cover an additional dollar per gallon on their unfilling up their gas tank. Sorab and now have to be lectured to by the likes of this politician about how they have a moral obligation to keep a war going that he supports and the majority of Americans do not. Yeah, I hate to pick on Rick because he's a personal friend of mine. And actually, I respect him a great deal as you alluded to it, Megan. He kind of pioneered populism in his 2012 campaign on many of those themes and became the original kind of brand of pro worker populism that Donald Trump in 2016 picked up. And he's just, he's a really good guy in a serious manifest. But I do disagree with him because, look, I've seen videos of truck drivers saying, I cannot go on. I'm basically not moving my truck, which is my source of income because I get paid, let's say, a thousand dollars for a trip and my diesel feeling it up costs $300. It's now 600 at all the other expenses and I am being driven to ruin. So it like to say to that person, like, just suck it up for a region of the world, the Middle East that is increasingly of less and less important to US national security, to US energy security. We're the most number, well, the world's number one net energy exporter. We don't need oil, we don't need gas for ourselves. And, you know, frankly, the region itself compared to China, which we talked about in the last segment is of much less importance. So to tell that person, and I've seen enough of these videos, which then you combine with the data from the election, that it breaks my heart to hear, if I were to put myself in the shoes of the farmer who's struggling because of diesel prices or the truck driver who has had to basically park his car in the garage because they can't rationally operate their business and now their mortgage payments mount, healthcare bills mount. I just can't bring myself to share Rick's point of view when it comes to those people. And I will say, here's the warning, is that the Republican party that Rick represented, even though he was, by the way, in some ways a dissident from it in 2012 and so on. But that party was headed to becoming a rump regional party, meaning it was no longer a viable national party. Trump came in and once more made it a national party, not least by saying we're not going to get into dumb wars in the Middle East, we're not going to jump into quagmires, and we're going to emphasize the working men and women of this country here. Unfortunately, I'm afraid that thanks to the hawks, right now the GOP is on a trajectory of once for becoming a rump regional party, a party of evangelical mega churches, which tend to be very hawkish and very pro-Israel, and like your prototypical car dealer, but not those working class and lower middle class people who voted for Trump in 2016, and then in 2024, and in a kind of multiracial way, by the way, that party is being lost and the path to regaining a kind of national influence for the Republican party seems, it seems like a very uphill route. And that's where the kind of Rick Sanford worldview brought us, and it's bringing us again. Those truckers you're talking about are listening to us right now. I hear from them every week in our show email because they listen to us on Sirius XM as they drive across the country, and they are suffering. These are not rich men and women. And the diesel situation has been absolutely devastating to the trucking industry out there, but so many industries beyond. It's so short-sighted, I'll use a nice term for Rick Sanford, who I also like, but a couple of other come to mind. Boneheaded is another nice way of saying it, to suggest that they just have to suck it up. I mean, these are industries across the globe, but certainly here in America where we're worried about our fellow Americans. That's suffer when these prices go up. Here is, we've played this before, but it's Doug. My husband Doug Brunt, who wrote a book called The Mysterious Case of Rudolph Diesel. Most people before Doug wrote this book a couple of years ago, didn't even know that diesel should be capitalized. It's a proper noun. It's a man. The diesel engine was created around, you know, the late 1800s, turn of the 20th century. And it was by this German kid named Rudolph Diesel, who was raised mostly in France, who was a genius when it came to engineering, even though he was very poor. And he came up with this new engine that was so magical in its, like, ability to not combust and not catch on fire, that it would become the dominant engine for boats, for tractors, for big rigs all across the world. And those are the ones People who pull up and fill their cars with diesel gas, they have diesel engines, that's why they need it. Here's Doug explaining it better than I just did. This is the guy whose engine power, it's the most important power source over the last hundred years in the world and continues to be our most important power source. When you consider a piece of fruit grown in a tropical region, all of the farm equipment used to grow that fruit is diesel powered. It gets loaded onto a truck, anything larger than a passenger car, and a third of the passenger car is also, is diesel powered. It goes down to port where a crane, diesel powered, loads it onto a cargo ship, a hundred percent of cargo ships. I think there's one Russian nuclear cargo ship that doesn't really work well. Cargo ships are all diesel powered, it goes across the oceans into port, back onto another truck, to a train, almost all trains are diesel powered and have been through the 20th century. So nothing moves without the diesel engine, it completely powers our global economy. We wouldn't look anywhere near what we look like today without diesel. So interesting, right? By the way, you can buy the mysterious case of Rudolph Diesel and Doug's current book online right now, which is the last empire of a manual Nobel. The national average for diesel right now is $6.13. A year ago, it was $3.76, Sean. And so it's very hard to listen to people like Santorum. I'll just give you one more. Here's Jim Jordan, who's going to be the minority leader in the House when the Democrats take over for the Republicans, saying similar, this is post the election. This is November 10th, yesterday, Jim Jordan stopped for. American people have common sense in the understand to stop this regime that for 47 years has killed Americans, killed Israelis, killed others, and killed a number of their own people to stop them from getting a nuclear weapon is a worthwhile objective. And President Trump is committed to achieving that goal. And if that means prices go up for a short time, I think Americans understand we can live with that. But in the end, we want all that to happen and we want it all to happen in as quick as time as it possibly can. President Trump makes decisions that are in the best interest of our country. President Trump does what he said he would do. He told the American people he'd secure the border he did. He told him he cut taxes he did and he told him he wouldn't start any new war. He makes sure this regime didn't get nuclear capability and he's making sure that is going to happen, that they do not get that capability in any way, shape, or form because that would be as Senator Graham said. But I think it would be devastating for the price of oil and for all kinds of other reasons that would be a bad outcome. Go ahead, Sean. It's interesting. Politics is at its core a contrast in a clash of values. And I understand that Trump, Jordan, Santorum, all good men who I think very deeply believe in their hearts that they're doing the right thing. The American people on Tuesday last week said, you know, we see what you're saying. We've watched a year of this war. We rejected entirely. They rejected the values underlying going after Iran. And that might be difficult for some people to hear. There are a lot of people in denial about what happened in the election. They tried to blame Oteriffs. So, you know, the thing Trump ran on and got him re-elected overwhelmingly and winning every battleground state or owe immigration. The other thing that Trump made his name on, that's the only area that when you ask people what they approve of that they picked Republicans over Democrats, it was on immigration enforcement. No, the reality is that the war in Iran costs Republicans their majority. The war in Iran made Texas blue. The war in Iran costs Republicans seats in Mississippi, in Kansas, in South Carolina, and in Iowa. Places that really should not have been on anyone's map for switch for party flips. The Iran war caused this. And the thing about politics is, if you do not represent the values and the interests of the people, they are not going to elect you to represent them. That is what happened. I get that there are people who. Sean, can I just follow up on this? You and I both know, if they really believed that Iran was about to launch a nuke, the American people would be behind what Trump did on February 28th of this year. They actually would have supported it. They didn't believe him. They still don't believe him. We know it was a lie. We know that. And the reason we know is because we know that the previous June, he bombed their nuclear sites to smithereens. We know that from him. We know that when this Iran war that he launched in late February started to flounder, he said, we don't have to worry about nuclear. We took out their nuclear facilities last June anyway. So he reiterated it, even though he had denied that the threat had been extinguished when he was first trying to justify the war, when it wasn't going well and he wanted to sort of peace out, he confessed, okay, it's true. We don't worry about it. We already took care of the nuclear program where, you know, people like us were like, we know, we've been saying that for months you've been calling us anti-Semites, we're saying that. And they know because the explanation for the war was shifting every two seconds, whereas it would not have been if this actually weren't a cute threat that was building that our intel was behind. We know that they weren't. Tulsi Gabbard told us that they just know it's a lie. So it's like, the people are patriotic. They love the country. They will sacrifice for a long time if they feel it's genuinely needed, but they don't feel that way. Right. And I think what is really rubbing people the wrong way. Look, if you believe that did, Iran needs to be taken out fine, that you believe that you're not going to change people's beliefs on that. But to come to someone who is having a tough time making ends meet because COVID in the by-nan and drove prices through the roof and now gas is twice as expensive as it was a year ago, to tell them, you know what, I've decided that your finances are worth sacrificing. That is a deeply insulting thing to do. And one thing I have not heard from anyone saying, you know, it's worth paying $2 or $3 a gallon more gas, okay, well then you can pay for my gas. None of them is off for that. You can pay for my heating bit, okay? You can pay for my airline ticket, which is now twice as much as it used to be because I've got to fly somewhere for work. If you do it. And none of them are offering to sacrifice. There's a whole lot of talk about how I need to sacrifice and you need to sacrifice. But none of the people saying that are willing to sacrifice for me or you or anyone else. And everyone can see through that. Everyone can see, look, it's not actually about the nuclear program because if it were, it would have been done a year ago. You thought you were going to get a quick, easier gene change like you did in Venezuela. It didn't happen. And now we're all paying the price. And say what you will about George W. Bush and the disastrous Iraq war, how it gave us Obama. It eventually gave us Biden. It re-tavicked on our influence all over the globe. George W. Bush actually made the case. Now the case was wrong and the facts weren't there. And there were no WMDs. But he made the case. He went to the UN. He went to Congress. Everyone agreed on it. That never happened. We got a state of the union from the President in February that barely even mentioned Iran. And it sure didn't mention that we were about to go to war there. And it sure didn't ask the people to go along with it and agree to sacrifice. It was dropped on us with no notice after a campaign of no new wars. And anybody who is shocked by the country rejecting that is completely clueless. Mm-hmm. Yes. It's not dissimilar to the reason the Republicans just lost that Senate seat in Mississippi. It's official now. That seat will go to a Democrat. Mississippi has elected a Democrat to take over for the Republican seat held by or the seat that was held by a Republican Cindy Hyde Smith. By this guy who seems incredibly talented, politically Scott Colombe, who exploited masterfully her ridiculous comment at a debate earlier in the campaign season, where she was asked about the fact that Red Meat was costing a lot and people couldn't afford it. And she actually said, we'll pick another protein. And so not only did he do an ad about this, which I'm going to show we've played it before, but he used the best people in this ad. It's like regular people who you'd want to know, who you've had at your house, who like, they talk the way we all talk behind the scenes. And he didn't bleep it, like he leaned into, this is what normal people heard when she said that. Let's play it, slot six. We go on price of beef continuing to go up. If you know you have so many proteins to choose from. Pick another protein, shit, I'd rather pick another senator instead. Pick another protein, shit, I'm lost, I'm down mine, I'd rather pick another senator. Pick another protein, what the- >> Pick another senator instead. >> That is brilliant. I don't actually have friends in Mississippi, but my brother lives in Georgia, which is close enough. And that is exactly the accent, all of it. It was perfect. Those are real voters who were like, this is ridiculous. It's just, it resonated perfectly, so rap, you know? And like, that is why we now have a Democratic senator from Mississippi instead of the Republican Cindy Hyde Smith. >> Yeah, you really begin to think that this version of the Republican Party, and I really thought, and I think you and Sean did as well, that we had moved beyond this version of the Republican Party has a death wish, like a political death wish. You know, Sigmund Freud said that, and in addition to the drive to pleasure of human beings have a death wish. At some point, you want to enter the life of non-living things and blend in with them. And the Republican, this version of the Republican Party. has a political version of the death wish. Who says eat another meat? Like how, how does that go through your, you can say, "Hey, I'm gonna fight to end this war as quickly as possible. I'm gonna push for whatever." But to say, "Don't eat, Rhett, meat." It, I'm sorry, they deserve it, they deserve it. And I, you know, I mean, I can't help but cheer that outcome because people, a politician who is stupid enough to say, "Pick another protein." Also, callous enough to say that because I bet she can eat red meat whenever she wants to. That doesn't deserve high office, sorry. And I look forward to seeing what, what Cologne puts forward. - Yes, she deserves to lose. She did lose as did the Republicans in a devastating event. There's just one more on him because he, I think this guy, he's got a future in front of him. He could be in the presidential mix next time around after his six years or possibly 32 comes. Is that six years' way? I don't know how to do the math. Today's a success. Yes, I guess it is, okay, yes. So maybe that presidential race. But here he is talking to Trump rally goers, as they're on the rope line waiting to get in. Stop five. - How you doing, sir? Can you do this one, sir? - Bill Cologne. - I'm Scott Cologne, Bill. Good to meet you for your service. - Thank you. - Absolutely. What matters to you is a veteran right now. - Second member, right? - Second member, I'm big on that. I don't know if you own the AI. - It's not for Mississippi, too, is it? - Indiana. - Indian? - Let me ask y'all what matters to y'all as voters? What are your top issues? - Great gas prices. - Yes, but how do you feel about the one I ran? - What's up, man? - Get out of it. - Get out of it. - We don't need to be there, it's not our problem. - Let me ask you, what do you think about the tariffs? Are you a fan or not? - Not really. - Not really. - How do you feel about flight cameras? - I'm not a fan of them. - Yeah. - We can all, well I worry about privacy. - What's your top issues? - I have mostly just, - Price is $1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. - Have you taken any money from eight halves? - Absolutely not. You might be asking you what matters to you as a voter right now. - Honestly, well, honestly. - Perfect, right? Like, unlike everybody else, no tone deafness, not afraid of mixing it up with people who are not there to support him and just totally natural and likable. - Yeah, who would have thought that talking to people and asking what they think and then running a campaign on what they say they want? Who would have thought that that would be the ticket to electoral success? You know, and that Sini Hyde Smith clip is amazing because it's not like she was talking about stake or talking about filet and yarn prices. She was talking about ground beef. Ground beef is the thing you use at the end of the month is filler because like all the other proteins are too expensive. Ground beef that's supposed to be like $2.99 a pound. When ground beef is too unaffordable, like you've lost it. You have completely lost the plot. And there are people in this party on the right who will say, "Well, populism is wrong. Popularism is bad. We have to be better than this." The whole point of democracy is that you let people pick their leaders so that their leaders represent them in the way they want to be represented. And the Republican party has lost its mind. You know, Sorap said it has a death wish. I don't think it's quite there yet. It has a minority wish because Republicans love being in the minority. When you're in the minority, everyone has to call you Senator. You still get taken to the front of the line at the airport and front of all the plebes so you can get on the plane first. You still get fed at all the gala's and all the parties and all the cocktail hours. But what you don't have to do when you're in the minority in Washington is anything. You don't have to do anything. If nothing happens, it's not your fault. Well, I'm just in the minority. Talk to those guys. They're in the minority. They get all the perks of power. They get all the benefits of being in Washington without any of the responsibility and the accountability. So I guarantee you the Republican Senate leadership right now is thrilled with what happened because they never wanted to be in charge. John Thune spent the last year crying about people telling him to pass a voter ID bill. He had a majority. He had 53 votes. Instead of actually doing the work, he spent a year and a half making excuses for why he couldn't do the work. Well, John Thune hit the jackpot because now as minority leader, he doesn't have to make excuses anymore. He just gets to be there and exist and nothing's expected of him. Nothing is accountable anymore. So this is the dream for Republicans in Washington. They don't have to do anything and they're not accountable to anyone. He didn't have a 60 vote majority and he didn't want to get rid of the filibuster, which feels like a good decision now that the Republicans are going into the minority. However, there's a real question about whether it's going to, how much longer it can possibly survive anyway? Because, you know, both sides are now threatening to get rid of it. And I honestly like my concern is, because like the Democrats may win the White House in 28. And then if they don't win a 60 vote majority in the Senate, which is possible thanks to what happened last Tuesday that they will, but if they don't, they're almost certainly going to get rid of it. They're going to, there's no reason to do it now because they don't have the White House. But when we get to 28, if they don't get a 60 vote majority in the Senate and they do win the White House, it's very possible they'll get rid of it. Trump today pulled Vice President Vance off of trying to settle the Iran war, which is technically still ongoing. We're not in the midst of a bombing campaign, but we're still, we have a blockade on the Strait of Hormuz, my friend and hair stylist Sarah hates when we talk about Iran. She's like, I don't care about the Strait of Hormuz. I don't want to hear, like it's Hormuz that you mix in a martini. She doesn't want to hear any more about it, but this is interesting. Sarah, I think you're going to be interested in this. We were going to use JD Vance to try to officially put this thing to rest because look, it's not good for the global economy to have that blockade. We're getting gas and oil out of the Strait, but it's costing us a lot of money. The way we have to do it now because the Iranians are threatening to bomb it and it's the whole things on lockdown and we're doing workarounds and it would be much better if we could just get back to where we were. Hello, before we launched this dumb war, which was it's open and it's not costing anybody any extra money. He's redirecting JD Vance saying, I've asked him instead to focus his complete and total attention on the massive corruption and crime taking place in Democrat run cities and states throughout the US. And then he goes on to say, we do not need a deal with Iran. Those days have long since passed. We've got their money, hundreds of billions of dollars, and we've got their Strait. Now I don't know what this is about. There was a report, there were a couple reports that JD was about to meet with a very controversial dude from Iran who was a nefarious character as they all are, who are the ones who are left. We're not going to find some saintly figure who's over there right now who's got any authority. And Mark Levin was freaking out about it, freaking out about this potential meeting. Well now the meeting is off. JD's attempt to settle this thing once and for all has been shut down. He's been redirected domestically and we're at like this weird standoff, I guess, or a grab in Iran and you tell me, I mean, I don't want hostilities to resume. This is definitely better than what Mark Levin actually wants, which is he wanted JD not to meet with that guy because he wanted to open up the bombing again and annihilate them. I mean, he, you know, he liked most of the neocons. He and Ben Shapiro would love to see this thing go boots on the ground so we can get every single last member of the regime murdered. And oh well, it's another one of those things. You just going to have to suck it up if you don't like it, American troops because the neocons really want it. Anyway, what do you make of this announcement by President Trump? Yeah, just very quickly, it would take about conservatively 750,000 to a million troops to overthrow the regime and take control of Iran. We don't even have that and it would just just be absolute hell because these people have nothing to lose and they believe that martyrdom is something sacred. So it'll, you know, the thing that they won't say it, they keep saying, I'm not saying boots on the ground. Well, the implication of what you want is boots on the ground. Please be honest. But anyway, that's right. They lie. What bothers me about this is basically, or strikes me about this decision is really if President Trump were going out of his way to make the Vice President's path to 2028 that much harder, he wouldn't be doing anything different, right? Because the story or the narrative that the Vice President could have maybe presented is something like this. Look, I oppose this war and there's lots of reporting typically on background, but everyone knows it's not a secret that the Vice President wasn't a fan of this war in the internal deliberations of the administration. But he could say, look, you know, I oppose that I was powerless to stop it, but guess what, I won the peace. I signed this and that. I got a deal. And so now that's been removed. And the one policy area where he's been given a sort of scope of action is kind of austerity. Now, I agree we should go after welfare fraud, benefits fraud, 100%, it's a serious issue. But it's not exactly an attractive position to be in, like I was the benefits police in 2028, right? Like I said, people want stuff, especially when the economy is bad, people want stuff. And yes, we should, again, crack down on welfare fraud, all of that. I'm all for that. But it doesn't put JD in the kind of position he want to be in in terms of what he delivered. And now this, the opportunity to be the face of bringing this war to an end is for now also been taken away from him. I don't know. It feels like president. Well, the other thing is he's telling him to go out. corruption, which is what, you know, what's the headline about corruption right now in the news? It's all about Trump, his family, and his associates. Like that's what we're going to spend the next year looking at by this, with this Democrat Congress. So it's like, it's a little, I mean, I guess it's like a look over here, a look over here, but the corruption that's going to be in the news this next year is going to be, unfortunately, people close to Trump. You know how much I love a great true crime podcast, right? Well, I wanted to tell you about one that's making a return this month on a horrific family annihilator story full of shocking twists. The award-winning team behind the Father Wants Us Dead podcast is back for season two. This time covering the story of Paul Canaro or Uncle Paul. In 2018, firefighters responded to a burning mansion in the affluent small town of Coltsnack, New Jersey. They made a shocking discovery. 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Two of them accused of racist acts because they walked by the door of an apartment in which black female students lived and were caught on the ring cam making monkey gestures and sounds. The first young woman we told you about yesterday in the video will show it to you in a second. She says she had no idea that black women lived inside this apartment and that they had been doing this to at least four random apartments. The black women inside the apartment gave an interview to CBS mornings and they said they came out of their apartment, they confronted the girls and that the second girl you will see in the video continued making the monkey gestures and sounds to her face. The first girl has apologized saying I did not know that there were black women inside and I never would have done those gestures if I had known. She's left the university. The second girl whose name is now known, it's Lauren Mayfield, has started to go fund me because obviously she's facing probably all sorts of threats and potential civil suits. This isn't criminal. I suppose you could make a case, it's harassment but I don't see a crime here. In any event, she started to go fund me and she's the one who allegedly continued the behavior face to face with these women. Those are allegations now we haven't heard her defense. Here's the video without further ado. So this Sean was everywhere. It was everywhere over the past day and a half, including ABC nightly news, CBS's Big Morning Show, every paper, CNN, every publication basically that absolutely ignored the murder of Irene Zerutska on the North Carolina light rail train by a black deranged lunatic who has been found incompetent stand trial ran with this story. They were not interested at all when this suite, this is such a sad picture of her cowering on the train, not understanding what had just happened to her. This is after he had basically killed her but before she died, she didn't know why she probably didn't understand she was about to die and then he was heard saying, I got that white bitch. Like I mean, it's just, okay, they ignored it. They were not interested in it. Has run with this story as though those white girls assassinated the girls inside. Like the level of news this is generated is breathtaking. And we said yesterday, if you want to do this, like we can do this. But most of us in the news, whether it's at the federalist or unheard or here at the EMK show, most of us out of a sense of decorum and an unwillingness to just gratuitously drive up racial hatred, don't spend a lot of time talking about the black on white crime rate or the black on black crime rate. Because that's exactly what it would do. There's a sort of a societal resistance to playing up this very unfortunate dynamic that does exist in our country. But if they're going to make us get into racism and crime and offense caused by one group against another, then, then, then, okay. And I said, yes, are you not going to like how that ends? And this is how it ends. Check the FBI statistics just for 2025. Blacks killed by whites were 318. How many whites were killed by blacks? Double. Double. 140, almost exactly double. White people were killed by black people, which is really saying something since it's almost always what black men, not black women, women aren't really responsible for a high portion of murders. So that means 6% of the population caused double the murder rate against whites, which are a much larger section of the population. When you look at general violent crime, so go beyond murder and look at rape, sexual assault, robbery, aggravated assault, and so on, the crime rate committed by blacks against whites is nearly 10 times the number of crimes committed by whites against blacks. White offenders against black victims is about 57,000, numbers of those in 2024. This is blacks against whites, 536,000. So this is absurd what they're doing. And it's to push a narrative, and we all understand the narrative. And I will say we had Shelby Steele and Eli Steele on recently on their documentary, White guilt. And Eli had a very thoughtful post on X, yesterday talking about how that's why they're doing it. White guilt, which leads them to jump at any chance to self-flagellate over this racist country in which we still live, aha, we got a live one down in Mississippi. Let's blow it up, put it on nightly news, Sean, nightly news, which ignored the Irina murder, not to mention multiple other crimes that are encompassed in those numbers. I just read to you. So your thoughts on it. Yeah. So there's obviously the racial component here. Everything has to be racial, whatever. My view on this is that the reason these women were targeted, they're hot Southern white chicks. If they're a bunch of ugly manatees rolling through there and doing this nonsense, that video doesn't even get downloaded from the ring camera, okay? If it's a bunch of like 250 pound beefy gals rolling through after a heater at the bars, no one cares. But the fact that it was pretty Southern white girls, that's the actual crime they committed. And you referenced an interesting stat there. You said, you know, it's not women who are doing the violent crime. It's men. That's absolutely true. Women in one particular case, and it's usually violence against babies. And that brings me to the case of Lindsey Clancy. Lindsey Clancy murdered her own children. Lindsey Clancy was not a lot to look at. She was a fragger-rock-looking woman. And so she became a safe one for women to get behind, because she wasn't threatening to them. She wasn't pretty. She's kind of ugly and holy, so they could get behind her and make it a reproductive rights issue. Oh, we don't want to judge. I'm telling you I'm. I've seen it around. They're like, oh, if those girls had been strangling babies with exercise bands on that ring camera, everyone would have been fine with it. No, they wouldn't have, 'cause they're pretty white Southern girls. And we talk a lot about how the worst thing to be in America right now is a white Christian man. That's true, but very closely behind are pretty Southern white girls. You cannot overestimate the extent to which the taste makers in this country and the corporate media hate the South. They hate the South. They've never been there. They don't know you from one from there because they just assume whether they're all the dumbest, Trogwood diddick, most racist people you've ever met. You've ever met. I'll tell you, I've lived in the South for a long time. I've also lived in Philadelphia, in Durham, in DC. Three of the most racist cities I have ever lived in in my entire life. None of them were in the South. But man, if you are a pretty Southern white girl right now, I'm sorry, you gotta be on your best behavior because the knives are out for you. If they had been a bunch of fat nuggos, nobody would care. (laughing) - Fat nuggos. No one has any excuse for being a fat nuggo in today's day and age anyway, between ozampic, acutane, lasers. You don't have to live like that. Trust me, you don't. Here are just a couple of examples, Sarah. We pulled some of the videos of the things that haven't made anywhere near the level of news of these two girls making sounds on camera. At York College in Pennsylvania, September, 2026. Hold on a second, looking for the right up of it. Yeah, this is several female Pennsylvania college students were brutally assaulted by a mob of agitators. This is black on white crime, who had invaded their off campus house during an apparent illegal street takeover. So let's watch some of that here in SOT 12. This is insane. According to the New York City police officers, they said individuals not affiliated with the college initiated a physical altercation after being asked to leave the property by a student. College officials told the outlet, York College leadership has been and continues to be in active discussions with York City leadership and local law enforcement about community safety and the neighborhoods surrounding the campus. This doesn't like, as far as I read, very little happened to these girls who conducted this. The cops arrived, they gathered, they tried to gather them. They all dispersed. They ran and the cops continued to monitor the area. Not a big deal, whatever. Some white girls got the shit kicked out of them. Okay, moving on. Here's another one. This is at the midterm election polling spot on November 3rd. Watch what happened here in SOT 13. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is again, a bunch of black women kicking the shit out of a white woman, not interested. No, didn't see that on ABC nightly news. Here's a train in Chicago, September. And by the way, that was November 3rd, so that was very recent. The one at your college was September 2026, very recent. Here's another one, September 2026. A white woman sitting on the train subway looks like mining her own business. Black woman comes on, throws a firework at her and then beats the shit out of her in SOT 14. I've got one more just we just grabbed a few. We could be here all day in Chicago. A man named Lawrence Reed 50 was charged in a federal complaint. This is November of 25 with a terrorist attack on a mass transportation system after he allegedly doused a woman with gasoline. She was black, she was white, and ignited a blaze. She was burned over 60% of her body. He just came over to her. He started dumping liquid all over her head and body before attempting to light her on fire. She knew what was happening. She tried to get away, fight him off. She ran to the front of the train. He lit the bottle in his hand on fire and used it to set her on fire. She attempted to save herself by rolling around on the ground. Her name is Bethany McGee. She's only 26 years old. She suffered severe burns. She was in critical condition. She was released from the hospital. I believe she's expected to live. This was a year ago. He was yelling, burn, bitch, burn alive, bitch. The guy had a lengthy criminal record, 72 arrests, eight felony convictions, seven misdemeanor convictions, a total of 32 years in and out of the criminal justice system. And weirdly, I didn't see that all over CNN or on ABC nightly news or on any of the publications, the published, the written ones that are playing up this Mississippi story. They don't care. Black, unwhite, violence, including setting someone on fire, beating the shit out of women at polling stations and on subways, doesn't rate. You see, no one cares. But if you're a hot white girl who makes a monkey signed outside of our department, you will be everywhere. Your life will be over. I can't help, I was especially struck by the footage you showed of the street takeover. Those are really, really serious and dangerous and they implicate people who are just trying to drive. Often, by the way, these are in New York City where I live. It's in parts of Queens and Brooklyn where a lot of the people who are victimized by or also people of color, right? And they're just trying to go about their day and suddenly there's like a kind of a circle of young people, some of them on bikes, some of them on foot, will jump on your car and menace you. I mean, it's extremely violent and dangerous. And so, yeah, I'm with you. I gotta say, somebody did something like they were acting out after a night of drinking at a college like, you know, is this, is, you know, to make it such a national story. And I think I'm sorry, but there is a disparity in terms of the coverage with like the kinds of street crimes that you showed. I mean, obviously a lot of it, by the way, again, in places like New York City, places like a lot of blue cities, both the perpetrators and the victims of people of color, no one elevates that kind of thing, except a few publications, right? Like the New York Post where I live is just unwilling to look unflinchingly at where crime happens. Who does it? But like many others don't. And so to like, you know, again, to create a Nash, is this really, you know what I mean? And even if you're progressive, like amid the mess of the Iran War, you know, the build out of AI with all of its potential prosperity, potential for prosperity, but also the downsides for working people to like devote this much attention to a drunken night of revelry. People just, and of course you can find the reverse scenario in 10,000 ways. So I, and I just think, look, we're, I don't know, look, the Democrats just got elected. So that, that is obviously a sign that the right was not doing the right things. And all three of us here would agree with that. So that is not a license to try to resurrect 2020, 2020's racial politics, 2020's oversensitivity. And this, you know, we had all sorts of warnings in the first half of the segment with, to, to the right to the Republican Party to not be stupid. The easiest way for the left to go back to, to being clobbered by the next conservative force, whatever that may look like or whoever it might lead it is to resurrect this kind of symbolic politics of people being drunk and say something stupid, whatever, like, we're over that. As you say, there has to be some final settlement of these kinds of issues, be like we're done with that. There are real problems. Yeah. There is, you know, a, I might render a lot of us jobless. What do we do with Iran? China's a serious competitor, like serious news organizations and be like, we're not going to cover BS. It's tiresome. It's tiresome. No one cares. Yes. Like, you know, if you're on the right, this is what you want the left to do. This is a kind of obsession that helps the, the right when, when the left gets all up in this kind of nonsense. It's very true. Oh, there was, there was an Elon post the other day on the subject of AI that was so depressing so rough. It was like, right now, you know, like, it wasn't an Elon post. It was somebody talking about something Elon had said where it was like, and he was just being honest, this was just his take, but it was like, make sure your kids start an AI. company where they can control an AI bot, like an AI program in some way, shape or form. Like that's the future. Like basically, there's no other job. That is the only way that they will maintain employment. This is after the CEO of Anthropic was quoted in an interview as being like, all the jobs are going to be gone from the white collar world. Like there'll be no young lawyers, there'll be no young consultants, there'll be no young, like doctors, they're, it's all going to be taken over by AI. And just so cavalier as he marches toward his first trillion. And you know, Elon's reaction is like, I'm just being honest with you, like, if you're not an AI, your F, your kids is it, well, I don't want my kids to be an AI. What if I, what if they don't want to be an AI? You know, like, it's, it is so aggravating to see this, like truly, oligarch class just run, run us toward the oblivion of jobs for young people. And maybe old people too, I don't know. Like I guess a few working class people will still have jobs because not all the trucks can be self-driving, the toilets can't be self-fixing, you know, every electrical problem you have may need a pro, an actual life human. But it's the field of where we're going to need humans according to these tech oligarchs who are ruling us are getting smaller by the second. And we're, all I get, you know, there were actually a lot of people who agreed with the comment, but I tweeted out about it. You know, the defenders are like, what's the alternative? What would you have them do? I don't know, but I'm fucking pissed off about it. Yeah, look, we, we should have a political discussion automation is an old human dream. Going back to Aristotle, he said, if there were, you know, sort of no, if, if, if harps could play themselves and shuttles could weave on their own, then masters would have, have no need of slaves, meaning the division between employer and employee slave and master and so on, is a product of scarcity. So if we're going to move toward a world of really, really cheap automation and robots directing other robots, et cetera, then we need to have a political discussion, a serious political discussion about what do the machines own and the people who own the machines? What do they owe to working class people, middle class people? And what kind of a settlement are we going to, these are the kind of political questions by the way, that the historic left, the old labor left has good answers to and ways of dealing with, I would, it would just break my heart is if, if we're going to spend the next several years going back to kind of 2020, I don't think we are. I think a lot of the progressives are smarter now than they were in 2020, but the obsession over this old miss, like drunken, whatever is, is, is not a promising sign of where their heads are at either. Now, before we're turning to race essentialism, great, you're going to lose that, you're going to divide us even more, you're going to create a whole bunch more Republicans and conservatives just like they did back in 2020. And I was speaking to somebody who was at our old school in New York, you know, we were at these two fancy private schools in New York when we fled when they went very woke and started to really, I mean, I thought it was abusive what they were doing to the children. And he was saying, this is a left leaning guy that all of his children have gone hard right. They stayed at one of the schools and he said, they're, they are all full magna now. Like they're so angry, the revolt, the rebellion against all the race essentialism and the gender madness and so on has been complete that that generation has got one big middle finger for all of it. So go ahead and lean back into that Democrats at your own peril. Okay, let's, let's finish it on something kind of frivolous, but not exactly. This Diana Rossini, who, you know, I don't really cover sports, but I followed this scandal because it was very interesting. It was somebody who's kind of in our profession. She's a journalist, but sports, who was having an extramarital affair allegedly with the coach of first the Tennessee Titans and then he moved on to the Patriots, Mike Raeble. And okay, that's fine. I mean, I'm not really interested in people's extramarital affairs, whatever. People get divorced. They get married. It's none of my business. However, when you are a reporter sleeping with the source, it is my business. It's literally my business. And I have a right to object and I did as did most of the journalists who looked at this alleged conduct because she wouldn't admit it. She didn't just say, okay, you caught me. I did something dumb. I'm not the happiest marriage. I'm going to take care of it. And beyond that, it's none of your business, which I think we would have accepted. We would have accepted and said, okay, got it, you know, whatever, moving on. She lied. She told us not to leave her lying eyes. We all know that we don't treat sources like this. I can, I can go on a limb and say right now, Sir Abinchon, you have never held a source in this way that we are seeing on camera nor interlaced your fingers with her right before going in the hot tub with her and being seen on the rooftop of the villa that costs an exorbitant amount, dancing, dancing in the evening, you know, twinkling light hour. So we all know what went down. But these two insulted our intelligence by denying it. She, she withdrew from the New York Times's investigation of it where she worked and offshoot at the Times called the athletic. She said, I'm leaving in a half because I won't be subjected to this anymore, these lies. So she tried to stave off the investigation. And now she's relaunched with this puff piece in People magazine espousing like her desire to be an example to women and how, you know, you can, you can just pick yourself up and dust yourself off and overcoming adversity. That's what she's an example of. Are you got to be kidding me? First of all, this happened six months ago, all right, you're still in the crisis. She's still with the husband who seems very henpecked. I mean, it's very sad to me that they're together now that I say you can never get passed in a fair. I've known couples who have done it. However, there's a question about whether her baby is actually what Mike Rae bulls and so on. Like this is just so sorted. And now she wants us to see her as like some sort of example of female empowerment. So she launches this show. And I said when we did the story the other day, I had never heard of this organization with with whom she was relaunching her shows like BET us. Well, it's a betting site. It's a betting site out of curacao. And apparently you can't even like, you can, you can spend your money there, but you can actually make money off of them. It's sketchy as hell. And it didn't go well when she tried to launch the show. She had glitching. No one could get on. She claimed it was because she was so overwhelmed with the number of people logging on challenge challenge. And she started the note as or started this show as follows out 17. But first a personal note, you know, over the last few months, I have had a lot of time to think about my life and my priorities and the person I want to be moving forward and being home in New Jersey with my husband and our two little boys and being truly present. It gave me so much perspective that I didn't even know I needed. I've also had a lot of long conversations with people all around football. You know, somewhere about the game and others were just about life to the people who picked up the phone and checked in and offered both encouragement and honest advice from the bottom of my heart. Thank you. Those conversations help carry my way back to the work I love and back to myself right here hosting the show. So anyone who knows me knows I have always been obsessed with the NFL, but maybe because I wasn't around it so much the last few months, my passion for covering this league has never been stronger. I'm so grateful, so grateful for this chance to do it again. Your passion for the league. I mean, maybe some word choice revision is an order here. I'll give you one take from Jason Whitlock, the great Jason Whitlock host of Fearless on Tuesday, sat 22. Rossini re-emerges with Bill Parcells, Bill Parcells, two times Super Bowl winning coach, Hall of Famer, 83 years old. No disrespect to Bill Parcells, but Rossini should have accepted her cancellation and stayed home with her two kids. You don't go from Mike Raeble's bottom chick to in hospice booty call for Bill Parcells. You don't go from a 50 year old heartthrob to Raeble to an old can of big tuna. Publicly, nobody will go on camera with Diana Rossini. Privately, everybody wants to keep all possibilities in play. Rossini has avoided cancellation. She's attractive enough, thin enough to remain in the game. Looks will get you a second act, but this one comes with a bingo night, early bird specials, and a seniors discount. It's either this, or she can join Joy Taylor on Only Cans. Is that an actual site, Only Cans, as opposed to Only Cans? Okay, no, it's not. What do you make of it? I'll start with you on that one, Sarah. The attempt to come back as the heroine, who's overcome all the adversity without acknowledging any of the bad behavior or even sticking around for the Times's investigation and not one word of true contrition. I just have one line and it comes from the great veteran, New York Times executive editor, A. A. Brosenthal, who faced such a situation with a reporter. And he said famously, infamously, I don't care if you fuck the elephants, but if you do, you can't cover the circus. And I just think that. Mr. Sini's time covering the circus is over. Yes. Yes. There can be no redemption arc, Sean, without the, the acknowledgement of what you've done. Yeah. How is she a real person? I mean, how is that statement real? Yeah. I thought, I thought someone was doing a bit, oh, I've had all these conversations. Really? Were they in bed? Were they on pillows? Were these pillow talk conversations? Yes. It's funny to me to watch the transformation of sports reporting because it's always been the place where like people who couldn't hack it and other reporting went, like people who are really, you can tell watching sports reporting how many people actually hate sports. It's weird and then it attracts people who hate sports oddly, but we've seen political journalism now morph into sports journalism and I feel like the kuda grad there is a reporter sleeping with sources because that's been rampant in political circles for years. I mean, think of the New York Times reporter, Ali Watkins, who is sleeping with a Senate staffer, James Wolf, and getting whispered sweet nothings. And oh, also completely classified FISA warrants given to her. I think she might be at NBC News now. Who knows? You had Biden staffers in the White House at the very top, sleeping with reporters. This has happened forever in political reporting. I just, it's kind of sad to see it end up in sports reporting, but I apologize that I feel like this has become my role on the show is the prude. No one has ever gotten in trouble ever in the history of the world by keeping it in their pants. Okay. So, Jensen. Long, Mike, label. Just keep it in your pants like there is no limit to the problems you will never have to face. If you just keep it in your pants. I, I do not understand the succession with like sleeping with strange all around. Keep it in your pants. It's not hard to do. Just like have some freaking judgment and we need a button. Stop being whores and stop being cats, okay? And then all of this trouble goes away and you get to actually have a nice happy life with your family. And you don't have to have people on podcasts, I'm using whether your kid who you named Mike is your husband's or your NFL boyfriend's, but congrats, Diane, congrats. You made it happen. You are definitely not our resident prude. It's a good advice. It's a good sound advice for anybody. I wanted to get to one other that I saw, which was by Dan Daykitch, who was entertaining Dackitch. Sorry. Sat 21. She was the big mouthful party girl that besmirched her husband for years and years and years. She wanted to be the cool kid. She wanted to be the cool kid that an interview's talked, well, sexually about things. I mean, let's be honest. She's horse shit at her job. She's ridiculous. If she didn't have a set on her, she would never have the job that she has. And she became an adulterous pig, same thing with rapal. Before you hit me with rapal, of course, rapals an adulterous pig. Oh, I would not wish that experience on any person ever. You don't have to. This isn't one of those experiences that came out of nowhere like cancer. This is an experience you willingly went into. This is an experience you willingly did knowing the man was married, knowing he had kids and rapal the same knowing you were married, knowing you had kids helped. You didn't even have the balls to break up with your husband and do this publicly. You tried to sneak around. So when you talk about lies, how about you talk about your own damn lies? I'm so tired of people being victims. I am. He's speaking to the part of her statement in People Magazine. I would not wish this experience on anyone. Well, what do you mean, the experience of cheating, getting caught, and not just cheating in your marriage and potentially having another man's baby, unconfirmed. But blowing up your whole career because you had the colossally stupid judgment that told you to do this, if you're gonna go outside of your marriage with somebody you're covering, which literally we all know we can never do. Now look, I haven't had a lot of sources that I'm covering for stories offer to sleep with me. But I did have a very well-known Republican senator who had been through a cancer battle tell me when I was very young in my career at Fox that I quote, gave him his libido back, who kept asking me out with him. This person was very powerful, very, very powerful and nothing was pursued on my end. Let's just say I laughed it off and we moved on and actually we're friends and I thought he was a sweet guy. But was there an opportunity there? Yeah. Quite clearly there was. But I'm not an idiot. I never want to sleep by way to the top. And I certainly wouldn't ever plant seeds in my professional garden back when I was a single gal. It's just like it's colossally stupid, never mind when you're married. I just think like for anybody out there because she clearly wants to be like this example to us all, girl boss, like I did it, they shot me down, but look at me, I've risen again. You have to fucking admit what you've done. There is no redemption arc without the acknowledgement of the sin. Like come out and say I am so embarrassed. What happened in my marriage? I'm dealing with privately and thank God for my husband because he's forgiven my terrible judgment professionally. I also screwed up and what I did suffice it to say was a total ethical breach and it will never happen again. Like that's all you don't have to give us the details. We don't need like nobody actually wants to know any more details than we know. But this nonsense of like I am woman hear me roar. Oh, by the way, what I really always wanted was to be home with my kids that end to work for bet bet US out of my basement, which the post is pointing out like literally anybody could have done a better production quality job setting up this woman's studio for her. It's just dishonest. It's just ingenuous and I don't I don't like the road back for her guys. I don't see it going anywhere. Well, I think there may be one silver lining here. You know, I like to be optimistic, I'm the the eternal optimist. Maybe we can just get rid of the sideline reporter chick. It is the stupidest job in all of reporting. Well, Bobby, I talked him during halftime and he said, you know, we've got to do this half as we got to score more points. Oh, wow, that's profound, you know, Delilah. Thanks so much for that. We the football viewer were so edified by that. It is so dumb. It is so insulting. We all know why they're there. Can we just get to the point where we like deep six that entire profession? Well, can I just add to that. What is with the male cheerleaders who are not they're not the male cheerleaders who like you see in competitions who are acrobats and strong and they're there to like flip the 80 pound women in the air and catch them. Like that's impressive. They're gymnast, basically. These are like obviously flamboyantly gay, a feat men whose bodies are closer to a woman's body than they are to a man, but they're obviously male and they're wiggling it and they're prancing about on the sideline like, who is that for? Honestly, who is it for? Gay men have the football players to admire. I don't think they need the super a feat gay men prancing around next to the hot female cheerleaders in order to get off or enjoy the game. And you know, football is generally beloved, mostly by hetero, red meat eating, beer, swimming, red blooded American men who want to see the hot chicks in the short cheerleading skirts and do not want to be thinking about gay men or anything around gay men as they're taken in the game. Genuinely, who is this for? Well, with AI and entropic soon taking over all jobs and especially in the white collar industry, you know, maybe we'll have more of that. In fact, like lots of people should go into being the sideline reporter. 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It's bold, no BS news. Only on the Megan Kelly channel, SiriusXF, 111, and on the SiriusXF. (upbeat music) We have got to end with this incredible, unbelievable, gross update on Chris Watts, a killer that we've been covering here at the MK show for a while. This is probably the most disgusting family annihilator that anybody's heard of in the past couple of decades. I mean, anybody who does that to their family is despicable. But what Chris Watts did to Shannon Watts and their two little girls is in a special, hallacious evil league. He of course strangled Shannon after she came back from a business trip in the night and then disposed of her body and killed their two little girls in the car right in front of the other. Each girl, the one watched as he killed the other and then put their bodies in oil tanks in a field. And he ultimately would confess all of this. Meantime he had gone on with local news, claiming he had no idea where Shannon was and he was desperate to find Shannon and he just wanted her to come home. They had had a tough conversation. He claimed that night. So she allegedly left with the girls without any of their belongings. It was obvious bullshit. The neighbors were on to him immediately. And indeed he ultimately confessed there is zero doubt of this man's guilt. Well, the last update we brought to you when on him in prison was that he had convinced some woman to marry him. Like these women are so, it's so crazy. They, there's a certain kind of woman who wants to marry a bad boy prisoner. And I don't just mean like random bad boy, but like somebody who did this to his wife and children and her name is Lizzie Henderson. There is an update from the Daily Mail on two fronts. First, the wedding's off. Why is the wedding off? Is it because she came to her senses and realized this guy's a family annihilator? No, no. In fact, it's because of him. His mother never warmed up to Lizzie, as does the family source close to Chris Watts. But no one was on board with him having a relationship with her. And Chris listens to his family. This person told the Daily Mail. She had adopted Watts's last name. She was seen kissing him during meeting hours last year, but Chris Watts broke off the relationship reportedly because his mother Cindy encouraged him to reconsider the romance. Chris would never marry someone who his mother didn't approve of. Not even in jail, set a friend. Apparently Cindy's disapproval of the woman in her son's life is not new. She and Shenan Watts never got along either. This is so crazy. But on top of this, the Daily Mail drops an exclusive and you should really go to the Daily Mail to read the whole thing for, forgive me, 'cause it's just, it's graphic and like the pictures, but this is what it is. There's something very, very deeply wrong with Chris Watts, obviously. He's genuinely an evil fucking devil spawn type of thing. I don't even know. I can't look at him as a human and he is still attracting other human beings to him. So it's not just this Lizzy, and she wasn't even his first girlfriend. Now it's men. The Daily Mail can exclusively reveal they report that Chris Watts has had same sex romantic relationships while in jail citing a well-placed source. That source is an employee at his maximum security prison and the person confirmed that Watts was recently separated from another male prisoner amid suspicions among the guards of an inappropriate relationship writes the mail. Younger guy's flock to Chris said the prison employee, he's really got a hold over them and they'll usually do whatever he wants. What is it about this disgusting pile of human feces that attracts people knowing how evil he is? We talked with Maureen one time about how, indeed, that may be what's attracting them. Like there are just, there's like a chip missing in some people that feel like they contain the devil. There's something exciting to them about like having this disgustingly evil person under their power or under their spell for a moment. The source described a pattern in which these younger inmates become intensely attached to Watts, now 41 seeking his approval competing for his affections while he showers them with gifts. They follow him around. They want to talk to him. They want his attention said the imprisoned employee and he's generous with his commissary. So he gets things for them gifts or whatever it takes for them to like him. As well as his external pen pal's rights, he Watts writes lengthy letters to the younger men he bonds with inside often after spending an entire day with them. He will see them all day and then at night, he'll write a long letter and hand it to them the next day. It really does make them feel special. This is so gross. These are such damaged, broken people. Several of these younger inmates, the male reports, have developed crushes on Watts. And it is pretty clear that Chris is flirting back. The relationships have occasionally turned physical. There have been times where it's pretty obvious something happened when I say these guys will do anything for him. I mean anything. There is some thinking among the guards that these relationships are too intimate. One former fellow inmate said that sex and prison in a cell or a bed is usually too risky. So inmates seeking homosexual liaisons tend to resort to using surveillance blind spots, which are only a couple of feet wide and often in communal areas. So gross. Prisoners learn to do it quickly said the ex inmate. We're on constant book out. The Daily Mail was given the names of three other men suspected of having sexual relationships with Watts. But none would discuss the claims on the record. One former inmate who did not want to be named, but who's been considerable time around Watts described their relationship as intimate. We were as close as two men can be, he said. I'm not saying that nothing happened, but not everything that you probably think. Chris is a guy who knows how to say the right things. And he can get you to really like him, the former inmate added. You find yourself kind of thinking about him and you're in your cell and he's in his, it's not sex, it's something more. He described Watts frequently talking about religion and having a magnetic presence. Okay, so that is true for a lot of sociopaths, psychopaths in his case. They are very charming. Ted Bundy could be very charming. When you look back at Chris Watts' text messaging with Shanann Watts, when she was starting to spiral and wonder whether he was cheating, et cetera, he, what he laid it on thick, how much he loved her, how beautiful she was, he is a master manipulator. I mean, she thought she was in a loving, connected marriage. And he was plotting her murder. There's no doubt in my mind that he knew. He would be getting rid of her as soon as she got back from that trip and killing off his children as well. He was cheating on her and he wanted to be with someone when he thought was a younger sexer or model. So he was able to be both this disgusting, deeply disturbed psychopath who would strangle his own little girls one in front of the other. One was two, one was four. And he killed the younger one before he killed the older one. And the older girl asked if she, if he was going to do to her what he had done to the little one. I mean, I'm sorry, these are such chilling details to just drop here casually, but my point is simply, this is one of the most deranged psychopathic, evil killers walking the earth right now. And there's a collection of men in prison who have obviously all done terrible things themselves, finding him attractive, putting themselves in his presence, when no one's able to see them or where no one's able to see them. And trusting him, like knowing, knowing what he's done. Think of how damaged. And sick, you'd have to be, to be the person who makes that choice. Like I don't, I, everybody knows that like gay sex in prison is a thing. It's disgusting. It's foul. It's deranged to given the client pool you've got in there. But like, why is this allowed? How is this allowed? I mean, is it like the guards decide there's only so many things that they can take issue with and they wait until it's like something violence that, you know, threatens the life of another inmate. Like this is fine. I object to Chris Watts having any ounce of pleasure, no matter how weird and disturbing it is at all in prison. I want Chris Watts to be sitting in a cell in solitary confinement, talking to no one for the rest of his life. That's what I want. No, no sex of any kind. It can be between him and his hand. That's it. I don't, I don't think he should have the pleasure of interacting with humans for the rest of his life, which he's lucky. It isn't coming to an end soon through a death penalty sentence. So whatever, the Daily Mail does a great job in these stories. They have updated us on many things happening with Chris Watts. I assume there's some prison guard who's willing to, you know, take some money and exchange for stories. Whatever it is, it's like an ongoing bird's eye view at evil. And what happens when you catch it and you put it in a cell and you watch it like a social experiment for decades to come. And you know, to me, he's using, he's using those same powers of manipulation on, I mean, what is in some ways a vulnerable population? I'll bet you the guys he's exploiting haven't done anywhere near what Chris Watts did. And I think they're potentially all in danger. Maybe we shouldn't care because they're in prison. They probably committed crimes themselves, but I think we should care. And I also think Chris Watts should not have the pleasure of human interactions period. Okay. So we'll leave it at that. Taking your thoughts. You can email me your reactions to this. My email is Megan at Megankelly.com and speaking of Maureen Kellyanne, guess who's back tomorrow, we'll ask her what she thinks in response to this story and so many others that we've been saving for her. We will see you all then. Thanks for tuning in. Thanks for listening to the Megankelly show, no BS, no agenda and no fear.