The podcast features a lively, self-deprecating discussion among hosts Dave and John, framed by a mix of personal anecdotes, professional observations, and humor. They reflect on a recent trip to the Hamptons and Canada, where high costs and logistical hurdles—especially the monopolistic hotel pricing via CanLions—emphasize the financial strain of travel. A standout moment involves a convenience store employee misunderstanding $9.11 as “9-11,” adding a surreal layer of absurdity to their daily experiences. The conversation delves into personal dynamics, such as Dave’s discomfort with small talk and his preference for silence, contrasting with John’s more energetic style. They also explore deeper themes like identity, solitude, and spiritual connections, sharing beliefs about ghosts, doves, and afterlife signs, though maintaining a skeptical, grounded tone. A recurring joke about Natalie “being in hell” for podcast content underscores their playful approach to accountability and editing. The hosts also discuss a new business vlog, highlighting challenges in filming meetings and the influence of mentors like Darman, while expressing future plans for content expansion. Overall, the episode balances humor, vulnerability, and insight, offering a candid look at their work, relationships, and personal quirks.
what's up guys we're back to views we are back with a brand new episode no natalie today but
we replaced her with john jason nash is of course here my lovely co-host not john also pretty good
looking like natalie basically the same thing and you're doing sports illustrated this year right
yeah and you're the first man so those titties that got him there it's amazing incredible um
that's not here we got into a fight last night what happened she just she's well she's wrong
i mean anybody in your orbit is wrong yes yes so it's what's the point i'm even talking about what
it is we all know no you gotta tell me i gotta know you can't just start like that no it wasn't
it's not like it's it wasn't like a big fight okay
it was just like a culmination of like being together for so long yeah and then the last thing
was we filmed something and i had her hold the phone yeah and she filmed it wrong and i was like
how can you mess up filming just film it the way like i always say this to everybody that films
because people don't like people don't film like they're looking through the lens they film like
they're still looking through their eyes and like they're all like they're doing i'm like eyes on the
phone not on the not even that but like phil i always say film it the exact same way you'd want
to watch it so like if there's something happening and you got to step in a little closer yeah because
you want to see it because you're curious then do that because because that's the same thing that
the person watching want to experience right she messed it up how did she film it she filmed it
like she was blind i thought she filmed it fine honestly jay um so yeah so there's that so then
so then you're on the wherever you are and you're on the lot at paramount yeah that's how it's gonna
say and i go you filmed it horribly i don't know what i said he said more than that it was a round
of like why can't you get it right right yeah and it's so tough because it's it is filming you know
what i mean it's so easy it's not i don't know i've i've had to hold your vlog camera and i've
never gotten it right not once yeah well you can't like even hold the cell phone for a call correctly
okay for a phone call yeah like your hands
don't um interesting i have a i have had a number of calls this week that i've achieved
perfectly how many times have you dropped the phone wow just seven times but i pick it right
back up um yeah i just feel like yeah i feel like your your hand-eye coordination isn't all there
do you know what i mean interesting yeah i've definitely remembered like being like jay film
this and then every single time it was wrong and you're talking like you know five six years of
working with you so i'm not sure
but if if only what we should do is we should clone your brain and put it into all of ours
yeah because everyone around you you don't want that because everyone would be a genius
right right right everybody'd be so lit um jay can you imagine like four davids in a room
they would one would live uh the other would die you think he david would kill david david would
kill dave for sure whoa i don't think so i think he'd be like he would gas like the other dave so
hard he'd be like no one could gaslight dave not even dave
um what were you saying to john before the pod started well you're giving him a note on podcast
how is john with constructive criticism he's i mean he takes it but he doesn't act on it
i love you'll say something and then it won't register well i love john on the pod
yeah love him but he sometimes just honestly just this last episode um you have a tendency to you
you you
maybe because we were all kind of tired but you're like you talk underneath you're saying things
underneath dave talking and i don't know what you're saying or what you're adding he's like
ad-libbing but here let me do it let me do it just tell me about tell me tell me about your week what
did you do this morning yeah i mean taylor made the sandwich again which i love because she puts
so much onions in there what got the onions okay with the onions oh he does that keep going i
didn't know i do that so normally she doesn't put enough onions in there but i feel like this time i
was like you should overdo with a big amount of onions just like get the sandwich out of the
fridge something was bizarre about it is i feel like my taste buds weren't working this morning
but i know taste i know that it wasn't make covid taste drives the flavor
i had to edit for like wait three hours i'm like and jay would be on a run damn you probably
thought there was like two different podcasts and then i was like oh my god i'm like i'm not going to do this
i thought there were two podcasts and then you'd be saying something maybe john's recording his
side podcast while recording ours have you ever seen those tiktok videos this is like very specific
i don't know if you're gonna know what i'm referencing but when there's like a movie playing
underneath the sound of the movie it'll go it'll be like dubbed over for the blind almost it'll be
like the woman takes the shackles and unshackles her hand yes i don't know why they do that i think
they do it for like to to go to go around the copyright aspect of uh tiktok yes i don't isn't it
because i i don't think it's for the for the blind or or anything like that it's it's very
because sometimes it doesn't add up to what's actually going on the screen right it's almost
it's almost so it like throws off the the copyright of like posting a movie onto tiktok
but that's what you just reminded me of oh i see they do it in the fruit videos but i was
i was yeah yeah in the fruit videos i was talking to talking to john yesterday it was me john and
scan our filmer yeah and i was like because we have to go to the hamptons tomorrow okay um most
most i don't know if we're going anymore i don't know what's out there it's palm tree festival yeah
what's that gonna be like it's really fun i think like a lot of people are going uh okay it's just
like you just got back i just got back this would be my last trip of um the summer till august all
right so i i think i go to kenya in august okay so this is my last trip till then so full july
being in la you know how crazy that's gonna be that's nice that's gonna be lit and i think la
is having like a renaissance yeah yeah i think i think um i actually don't even know if it is
but i know people are saying it is and i think if you say it enough it'll happen who's saying that
a lot of there's a lot of tiktoks that's saying la is back and i don't know if everyone's just like
trying to bring it back by saying it's back yeah so i'm gonna join them because i
drove down sunset saturday night yeah and it looked like a ghost don't say that don't say
that just say it's back just say it's back and then i think we'll bring it back by manifesting
anyway i told john i was like john we're going to uh we gotta go to the hamptons this weekend he's
like no i'm not going i'm not going i'm not going i don't think it's beneficial for me to go and
then scan who's my employee is like yeah that's a crazy thing to say to your boss that when he
asks you to go to a certain place that you don't think it's beneficial for you to go why don't you
want to go john okay in my defense how many days is it three uh no we're originally we leave friday
we're back sunday okay originally originally he said like friday to tuesday i never said that
yeah you did i never said that i see the emails too i i'm part of i'm not on emails
dot com also i'm not emails oh yeah that that email is totally worthless by the way you should
know that because i get emails all the time about stuff like views podcast recording at 1 p.m
on wednesday and then i i get here and there's a damn dinosaur in the backyard or there's like a
you know there's a tiger sitting in dave's bedroom and i'm like i thought we were doing the pod
i got the email i'm not on email it's just like made up shit it's literally poor brooke brooke's
just doing brooke is doing made up shit yeah like she's putting random things in the calendar yeah
she's putting stuff in the calendar and then i'll see stuff in the calendar yeah and but then natalie
reminds me why don't you try it and that's where they get you yes that's what i get thank you because
natalie thinks the email's real yes but it's not so i believe the email's real yeah natalie's like
natalie natalie keeps thinking the email's real but it's not real well today's a good example
what time did you get here for the pod i i got i got here at 12 30 okay it's 2 p.m yeah yeah yeah
i had no idea there was a pod happening right it was on the calendar and then also on the text
last night we were potting we were we were planning for today and she's answering for you
and i was like hmm unless i see it from you in your text yeah yeah never yeah i don't believe
any of it don't listen to her fake news they just say things it's not fake news it's just that you
are a ball of chaos no i'm not i think i'll tell you when i'm gonna do the pod i just like
the answer is never the answer is i'm gonna avoid it as long as i can
i i learned my lesson i i bring my computer but jay there's you have to bring like hobbies the
six you know like the six digit six letter confirmation codes everything's printed out
no now i'm doing it okay now i'm doing it i'm talking under him what do you what do you mean
six letter confirmation you know like like there's a six six digit like letter code that like you
already bought the flight he's saying like a you're saying like double confirm yes yeah yeah
i get that reference so you're going no i'm not going i'm sorry david's he going it's funny and
it's john's friend that's housing us john has like this millionaire billionaire friend really
and he's giving us a house and john goes if you make me go i'm gonna call him that you can't stay
with me i'm like what the fuck is going on here how do you have a billionaire friend
john john has a lot of billionaire friends it's not like there's no way he has a lot
of billionaire friends that would be at least three
yeah okay there's at least three there's at least three three billionaires yeah for sure yeah there's
no way yes yeah you're kidding this is john this is this guy's connected you really invest dude
fucking spacex ipo'd and he goes and i go wow people are making so much money he goes i know
i told you i could get you into before the ipo yeah and i'm like what yeah he's like i told you
i was like i can if you want to put any kind of any amount of money in i can get you in before
the ipo i'm like john you never said that to me he's like yes i did i told you my my buddy had
like he was raising money and he asked if you wanted to be in it and you said no you don't
like investing oh wow and now you regret it yeah his friend made like how much well he made like
10x yeah really over 100 million dollars yeah he said like he changed his his friends are just
taking care of for the rest of their family yeah you know my friend you never told me this
but i guess he did so yeah you gotta listen to john sometimes
i mean i do say a lot of things though so yeah so it's like you gotta pick you gotta you gotta
sift through it you know yeah which is impossible it's like yeah in hindsight it looks stupid but
then if i put myself back in that situation it was probably also surrounded by like a bunch of
nonsense so right so that's a very hard and then didn't it dip after it came out but it doesn't
matter it doesn't matter yeah you're getting you're getting you're getting it so low that
like at the ipo doesn't matter right oh yeah
no no yeah you buy like it ipo at what 120 yeah and it hit like 200 but you're buying it at like
30 from the company so the second it comes out you've already forexed yeah that's what that's
why didn't you buy some i don't think you get enough money for that i don't have enough money
for that there's minimums you have to like you have to like a hundred or a million dollars yeah
oh a hundred thousand dollars or a million yeah yeah but like your million will turn into 10
wow yeah it's pretty crazy i don't like hearing stories like that
i hate it too fucking upset invest and it's such a headache and it takes you away from everything
that's why even if he did bring it to me bring it up to me yeah i was like please do not talk to me
about investing i've lost every time i don't want to hear it but now i changed my mind if your friend
wants to hit me up to invest take all my money anyway we get to go to the jackass premiere last
night oh i've been filming this vlog that's a little different i've been filming this business
vlog oh yeah that guy's a good guy i've been filming this business vlog oh yeah that guy's a good guy
um well how was cam cam was fun good but like this business vlog i've been filming and hang out
with jared leto jared leto was not there unfortunately yeah i was like the first
can we went to is all the celebs this year was less celebs and more influencers i'm trying to
think like what celebrities are there you had your like diplos yeah um that's kind of it actually
okay not that many okay some f1 drivers um but the
that's i think because they live there and they were like having their off time did you film the
business vlog in can um yeah so i started here i got like some behind the scenes i showed all the
people that work with behind the scenes like um brooke you know charlie hallie nice they were
bitching to john it's fun it was really fun going it was really fun going into it because it was
like like uh it's kind of like a low-key vlog yeah and then i got to talk to darman which is
really fun oh yeah i know darman he's nice i mean darman and he was just like it was funny because
i'm like no no this is the business vlog like this is different um i don't i don't know where
i'll put it i'll start i started it with the idea of it going on second channel yeah but it's got
one of those things to it where like it may end up on the main it just depends on how like
how much people want to see it right if they really want to if they think if you guys think
this is a good idea i'll put it on main but i'm like halfway through it because our work week's
not done so i'm just like filming my entire work week yeah but also my other problem is there's not
much business going on
i'm not making it up
no it's like well it's like we go to a meeting with like
can you film a meeting i guess is my question we just get b-roll no we're not filming inside
the meeting yeah and then we like we leave the meeting and then it's like like microsoft was
showing us like some secret stuff sure so like we couldn't have the camera in the meeting but like
it was far away enough where you couldn't see what they were showing us yeah uh but like when
then we leave the meeting we don't even like we didn't even tell the audience what happened we
were kind of just like meeting went well like so i'm like it's not really i don't know how to
i don't know darman really saved me what'd he say i don't know i asked him about how he's so
successful yeah darman's like the king of facebook and makes like i don't know five ten million
dollars a month off facebook yeah like really something just astronomical um and i talked to
him about that and he's yeah he really saved the really saved the business aspect we teach you
anything yeah but i want to save for the vlog dude all the secrets he taught and i ran to keith
lee okay that's the big food reviewer yeah yeah did you eat anything with him um no i uh i dude i
can't do french food you don't like french food no yeah it's just it's like it really it really
is crazy you're not a french onion soup guy no i i don't even escargot no i can't even like really
wrap my head around it i actually don't think like european food is that good i know people
go like you gotta go to italy for the pasta and pizza yeah but like we have the best pasta
pizza i hate i hate to be that guy i saw tiktok once and i'm like and i've fully like converted
my brain to it yeah someone was like it's pasta like well it's good the difference is invented it
or whatever but like we've adopted no we have italians here the difference is is how it processes
in your body that's the difference okay fair plate of pasta over there like you don't feel
horrible you know you don't feel bad i don't think i'm at that age where i'm feeling things like that
maybe i don't have that perspective not yeah um i go to olive garden and i feel like i could
fucking run a marathon really i don't know about that one i'd run a marathon in the bathroom
bathroom um yeah so we did that and this was our this was our third and final time to can
why is this your final time well just for the year remember we had to go three times
and then we went to the club we partied we partied pretty late and then we got we went
how late how late uh how late yeah how late you stay out uh well
we went straight p2p2p yeah so we went party to plane to paramount okay okay so we went from the
part we left the party at like four okay then got home at like 4 30 um ordered food okay packed
and then headed to the airport at six yeah and then flight took off like eight okay and it
connected at in paris which is the worst airport on the face of earth why i've never been to it's
it's the way it's set up is like a maze you're walking for miles and it's all like not all but
most of it is glass so you're like in a magnifying glass in the summer yeah and i don't think ac's
that big in europe i heard it's having a heat wave over there um yeah and it's really fucking
hot was it hot in con it's never been this hot oh really the people are sweating through yeah
everyone looks like they're like like there's little there was drops of sweat coming down
people so it's kind of tough it actually made it easier for me though because i have sweaty hands
so like when i was shaking people's hands we were all equals so i kind of like that but it was it
was very like we were all drenched but it's kind of crazy like i'm pretty good at like when when i
like when we went for the business vlog right so i had a couple panels i had to do blah blah blah
but like my panels didn't start till like 3 or 4 p.m like adam w went out with us he was out with
us till 4 a.m and then and then had to wake up at 8 a.m oh my god and then and then one of the guys
with us to like 4 30 a.m and he had to get up at 6 a.m and for a full day of work not like what i'm
doing yeah like i do two panels they are they have probably like 12 to 15 meetings that day
right it's just some people just like really operate on a different level which is really
really nice to see all that and then what happened at jackass wait do you get paid for the panels
paid for the panel um it's yes because they pay um i went with snap yeah so snap pays me but i
really
break even on the trip got it good to get your own flight and stuff yes i see well they pay me
like such a really good fee yeah but it's extremely expensive to be in can it's extremely expensive
okay okay so like gets close to like to break and dave's not staying at the best western yeah
i'm not even staying at the hotels because the way the hotels work is a fucking it's a monopoly
there can lions buys all the hotels on the strip right and just to unlock the website
of where you can buy so like let's say you have the marriott there right that's one of the hotels
is the jw marriott for you to even access the rooms and pay the south of france rate which is
like two thousand a night yeah you have to buy a can lions pass for that week and that pass is
ten thousand dollars oh no way so per room if i'm going natalie her pass is ten grand my pass is ten
grand if i bring john ten grand what and and that's you're not you haven't paid for the room yet you've
unlocked the ability to buy a room whoa there's no way yeah dead ass it's like it's it's really
really crazy it's been like it goes it's like this every year and you can't book i even thought to
myself like maybe if i book like i tried booking this year's like right after can line out last
year but it's it's year round they have it blocked you cannot buy hotels in this time
because can line i think buys it year to year that is so crazy yeah it's crazy but i mean it's like
really the hot spot to be on that strip like it is like if you're there you're like in the
It's like. The most opposite version of Hollywood Boulevard ever.
Like, you're in the middle of everything, but it's all, like, so productive.
Everyone's so, like, next year I'm going to, I told Natalie she should go by herself.
Because, like, I feel like I hold her back.
Why so?
Like, I think she could go and not, like, go and party and stuff.
And, like, actually go do the proper meetings.
Oh, wow.
I did, like, three meetings and two panels when Natalie could do ten meetings in a day.
Easily.
So, I think that's what I'm going to do next year.
So, would you stay in an Airbnb?
Yeah, Airbnb.
Still very expensive.
Like, 20 minutes outside the city.
But, like, just really good vibes.
Even that Airbnb was, what was it?
$20,000?
$25,000?
$20,000 to $25,000, actually, yeah.
You didn't have it covered at all?
Yes, John.
But when people say that, it fucking makes me so stressed.
Why?
It's like, that's still my money.
Do you understand?
But, like, I know.
It's always my money.
But when I say covered, like, did someone pitch in or something to help you offset all?
What do you mean?
No.
Like, Natalie?
Like a brand.
Yes, John, but how do I make money?
How do I make money?
I get so frustrated when people say this.
Like, when they're like, yeah, but SeatGeek bought their car.
It's like, that is the only way I make money is SeatGeek.
That is like, that's like literally, that's like you working at McDonald's and me being like,
yeah, but your McDonald's wage bought that money.
Like, yes, if I, I just don't.
No, no, no, no, no.
What I mean by, like, you don't have to front the money.
I'll even, I'll even do it in bigger standards.
If you're a DJ and you're flying private jet to Vegas, that is your money you're spending on.
That is not the casino.
Okay.
That's the money that could be in your pocket, but the casino's going like, we're going to
pay you a million dollars less for the year and we'll fly you private.
That's your money.
That is your choice to make.
Okay.
That's it.
Does that make sense?
That's why Dylan Francis goes Southwest.
It's like, yeah, I could.
Easily fly private.
Yeah.
But all of that's coming from me.
Like, it's, it's, it's, it's, that is his money.
Yeah.
It's the casino's money.
So, like.
I do the same thing.
Okay.
Is it my money?
Yes.
I guess, yeah.
I know what John's asking.
John's saying Snap, Snap paid you, but they didn't cover your lodging.
Yeah.
But they do, because they're paying me.
It's, it's.
Right, right.
Both are correct.
Right.
But it's just, you know what I mean?
Someone else might've said, oh yeah, and we're going to put you up and we're going to pay
you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No.
But, and we're going to put you up is, that's not ever a thing.
And we're going to put you up can easily be.
I've had, I've had jobs where they put me up, they pay for flight, hotel, and they pay
you.
Jay, Jay, Jay.
But that's not, that's, that can easily be you going, no, thank you.
We, that happens to us all the time where they want to also put us up.
Right.
But we're like, no, we're going to stay with a friend.
So we go, no, thank you.
Give me that budget instead.
I'll book things myself.
Oh, okay.
That is a budget.
That is already your money that they're putting.
It's not like they have imaginary.
Pixie dust money to spend on hotels.
Sure.
Sure.
That is your money already.
That, that, that should be part of your budget, but you're choosing it to go to your lodging
and your first class travel.
You could easily go.
If SeatGeek's flying you out first class somewhere, you could go, no, thank you.
Fly me economy and just send me the money and you book economy.
That's all your money.
Sure.
It's never, it's never a situation where it's just magical new money that has appeared from
the brand.
It's never that.
Right.
But I feel like sometimes they can get like a.
Block discount.
The only way it's magical money is if the hotel is hiring you for the job and it is
the hotel that's giving you a free room because they own, they own the infrastructure.
But like, other than that, it's, it could always be your money.
And then what, what happened at Jackass?
Jackass, we, I met up with Steve-O again, which was really nice.
Nice.
I got to meet Bam Margera's parents.
Nice.
Bam wasn't there, huh?
Bam wasn't there.
And then, yeah.
Yeah.
It was really fun.
Steve-O, Steve-O, Steve-O hit me up like a week and a half before and was like, hey, you
want to FaceTime me?
We should do a bit where I put a hook through my mouth.
And I'm like, that sounds like fucking amazing, but shouldn't we do that on video?
Yeah.
And he's like, okay, you're right.
So then he saved it for the premiere.
Thank God.
Because on FaceTime it would have been so bizarre.
But it was just like, it's just a funny, funny thing.
Like, could you imagine like if you had to put a hook through, like a fish hook, you put
a fish hook through his mouth.
And like, if I had to do that, I'd like want to make sure that I have the absolute best
HD camera filming me, not throwing it on FaceTime.
But I guess he's done so many stunts where that's like not difficult for him.
Yeah.
Like that's so funny.
Just Steve-O on FaceTime.
Just like, all right, man.
That's cool.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
All right.
See you later.
I'm going to grab some lunch.
His food is pouring through his cheek that he put a hole in.
Yeah.
No.
So we got to go do the premiere, which is really nice.
It's on the Paramount lot.
Yeah.
We've had a real business filled day.
And then we have to, so we may fly to the Hamptons, and then we fly to Utah for a Dobricks
meeting, and then that's it.
And that's the whole vlog.
I don't know where it'll go or how it'll live.
Right.
But that's kind of my vibe.
Yeah.
That's nice.
What's new with you?
I was in actually the convenience store the other night when Naveen was out of town, and
I got my snacks.
I got one liquid death, and I got a bag of SmartPOP.
So I went up, and I was like, oh, my God.
I was like really tired, and I went up to the guy, and the guy looks at me, and he goes,
9-11.
Like that.
And I was like, what?
And he goes, he goes, he was Middle Eastern.
He goes, 9-11.
Like that.
And I go, what?
What are you saying?
And he goes, the price.
And I looked down, and it was $9.11.
Oh, wow.
And I was like, oh, my God.
I was like, oh, oh, oh.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
That is exactly like the moment that you would panic.
That's really funny.
So funny.
That's really funny.
I was trying to figure out where you're going with it, honestly.
Yo, SmartPOP's kind of tough, huh?
What's wrong with SmartPOP?
Because it's like, it's healthy for you, but that fucks you up, because then you just like
down the whole bag.
Yeah.
I've never.
Yeah, I ate the whole bag.
You've never had SmartPOP?
I don't know what it is.
It's popcorn.
It's the popcorn that's in those bags that looks like healthy.
Oh, yeah.
It's like a pretty higher quality popcorn.
The second you have a little bit, it's fucking game over.
Yeah.
You don't feel that way about Doritos.
Well, that's why I like unhealthy food.
And I found this to be true.
When I eat healthy, I snack like a motherfucker, because I'm still like missing that like.
You eat more.
Yeah.
You're missing that hit.
Yeah.
That hit.
Yeah.
That hit, yeah.
I'm missing the fucking fucked up stuff.
Yeah.
The fucked up stuff's in my stomach.
And then I completely just overeat.
You working out at all?
Why all this traveling?
Yeah.
Are you working out at all?
John, shut the fuck up.
Fucking.
Is John holding it over your head now that he's working out?
He's training for Zilla.
Is he looking at you differently, like a sloth?
No.
No.
Do you look down upon Dave now?
I don't get this John's second Zilla transformation.
Okay, dude.
Why?
What's wrong with the second transformation?
Well, because they're saying they're doing it differently this time.
But like, it still seems pretty, they still have a crazy, when's your deadline?
December?
New Year's Eve.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
And what shape are you supposed to get it to?
How much do you weigh right now, John?
Actually, not too much.
I'm not as, he's, I'm not dropping as, as much.
How much do you weigh right now?
230 flat.
And what does he want you to be?
I think 185.
Okay.
185 is not bad.
That's not horrible.
165 was crazy.
That's what you were before?
Yes.
Yeah, that shit was scary.
Okay, I didn't know that.
I thought you were trying to go back to 165 again.
No, no, no, no, no.
And I was like, that's just, you're just doing the same shit.
165 was like, dude, even I said that.
I was like, okay, that was a little much.
Would you ever do a, would Ilya ever do a transformation without the,
the abs?
Just like somebody.
I think this is one.
I think this is one.
Yeah, 185 he wanted.
Yeah, 185 is like, is just right under like 16, 17% body fat.
That's 10 pounds heavier than me.
Yeah.
Oh, I actually found out something about myself.
I wrote it down.
I was looking through my notes.
Wow.
That's going to be a little jumbled because I wrote it down quick because I think I was
sleeping.
When people ask me what I like to do for fun, I always say nothing and staying at home.
Right?
Yeah.
This has been a thing, right?
Like I always say this.
And I think this is because in my head, the meaning of the word fun has changed for me
because my work is actual conventional fun.
So when people ask me what I like to do for fun, I answer in a way that's almost answering
the question of what do you like to do when you're not working?
Right?
Which is nothing.
And the answer to that is nothing.
Yeah.
Makes sense.
So like.
I think I know it's kind of like the obvious, but I think I put it into words like my fun
is already work.
Yeah.
And I associate that question.
What do you like to do with fun with people?
It's it's almost synonymous to what do you like to do when you're not working?
You know what an alien you sound like right now?
Well, yeah.
I have like an alien of a job.
I have the craziest job in the world.
But that doesn't matter.
Doesn't matter.
You should you should you should have an answer.
You should have some interests that are outside of your work so you can.
So you have an answer that isn't so.
But my interest is work.
That's not good.
What?
What the fuck are you saying?
I don't like that.
How do you not like that?
I think that you should.
What about like a basketball player?
Why don't you be a little more well-rounded?
Exactly.
A basketball player will be like, obviously, I love the game of basketball, but I also
I also like to paint or I like what I'm saying is why don't you get some hobbies outside?
So when someone asks you, you can say, oh, you know what?
I love to drive my cars.
I love to.
You know what?
actually taken up
crochet
um
Stuff like that.
Or say pickleball.
But why is nothing not acceptable?
Because it's like a boring answer.
Yeah, but it's so lit.
To us, yes, it makes sense to us.
But to other people, it doesn't.
Very good, John.
Yeah, exactly.
To us, we all understand you.
But let's say you're meeting somebody at a party.
It's like when you tell me and I'm like weird at a party.
I'm telling you right now.
I'm weird at a party?
If someone asks that, they don't know you.
But then I go, I just really like sitting around on the couch with my friends.
That's what I say.
That's okay.
But what if you said, you know what?
I've gotten into birdwatching.
And it's fucking incredible.
Something like that.
You know what I mean?
Maybe.
This could also be paired with the fact that I don't love small talk.
I don't know.
You're really good at small talk, though.
Yeah, but I just don't like doing it.
What's wrong with small talk?
Small talk, it depends on the initial conversation.
Okay.
Some people are really bad.
Small talk, it's actually kind of like, and can you see it a lot?
It's really funny.
Give me an example.
I can't give you an example.
Some people just like don't.
I like your hat.
Oh, thanks.
I just got it from like Dairy Boy.
I think my friend just launched a new brand.
Really?
Yeah, they'll be really excited you said that.
I don't know what it means.
They don't even ask me what it means.
I basically wear the hat to cover my hairline.
Dude, the amount of pain that goes through my entire body when I watch you in small talk.
Wait, why?
Watch me in small talk?
Yeah, if I ever see you in an interaction, and I could be wrong, but in my soul, I'm like.
Wait, why?
Why me?
I'm like, oh, Dave.
Oh, man.
The poor guy does not want to be in that conversation.
Wait, why?
When?
Because I can tell that you're just like.
I don't want to be having this conversation.
We know.
It's really funny.
There's no rhyme or reason to what small talk.
I like and I don't like.
Well, give me an example of some small talk that you liked.
It could honestly be.
Someone came up to me the other day, and they were like, my cousin was in one of your vlogs.
That's good.
But in theory, it's like, what?
What does that mean, your cousin?
But I like that for some reason.
Sure.
That was fun.
I really like people that reference a specific moment in the videos.
I also don't mind when you just take a picture with me, and you move on your day.
I'm not offended.
I'm not offended with that small talk.
I'm offended with their small talk.
I hate.
I hate when people feel the need that they have to do small talk.
That's the only thing that I hate.
Just do whatever is natural to you.
I hate when someone's like, let's take a picture.
I think I've mentioned this before.
I go, yeah, let's do it.
And then they're like, wait, I'm so sorry.
How are you?
I'm like, what is it?
What fucking syllabus are you following right now?
What are you trying to do?
Nothing wrong with that.
Nothing wrong with it.
No, I know, but like-
Checking in.
I know, but I just, oh my God.
Being a human for a second.
Dude, I was in, I was in, where was I?
Where was I?
I was at the French airport.
And this was really crazy, because I'm usually like really good with people that are like,
that are working.
Yeah.
And I was like, I went to a store, and I was like, do you guys take Amex?
And the woman looks at me, and she goes, um, good morning?
And I'm like, oh, I'm so sorry.
Good morning.
Which, I don't know, which I get, but I'm like, I'm at an airport where there's like
300 people.
Like, I would think that she's like gassed, right?
And I was like, gonna get right to it.
Yeah.
It was really strange.
I don't know, like, I went to Natalie right away.
I was like, you won't believe this conversation.
I just, and I was like, well, did I fuck up there?
What should I have?
Yeah.
I don't know.
Maybe.
Wait, you said, did you say, you said hi, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hi.
Do you take, do you take Amex?
But it was really strange.
I got nothing.
That's strange.
I've never had that happen to me.
It's the last place I would expect anybody to want, especially the French.
Yeah.
I feel like they don't care for small talk.
Yeah.
So I was like, right to the point.
I'm not gonna waste this person's time.
We're at an airport.
I don't know.
Maybe that's crazy.
But yeah, no, I do like, I like any other, I like, I like all kinds of small talk.
I just don't, I don't like when people feel the need to force it just to be polite.
Like, you don't need to do that.
How are you with silences when you meet somebody?
That's one thing I've gotten better at it.
With age.
It's like, if there's a silence, I'm just, I'll, I'm good.
I can sit in it.
I used to not be able to when I was younger.
Yeah.
I think, I think that's a serious superpower.
You think so?
Silence is a conversation itself, which is like, I was like, wow.
I also like, I learned this four years ago.
Like when you're talking to people, it's so nice to be really relaxed.
Yeah.
And like, I don't know how to describe it, but like, I almost, in my head when I'm relaxed
and I'm in like an apartment.
In a flow state with a person, I imagine their words curving around my head like a racetrack.
Like just smoothly coming around my head.
And that's how I imagine like a conversation with them.
And I hear it.
Who's somebody that relaxes you?
I listen to, no, anybody could do it.
Okay.
But it's just like.
Like Zane?
Zane does not relax me when I talk to him.
Zane is the most stressful.
I've known Zane for 10 years.
Yeah.
And it still feels like I'm like talking to the principal or I'm like, got to fucking
lock in here.
Unless I say one wrong thing, I'm going to detention.
What about Natalie?
You ever do it with Natalie?
No, I'm saying like random people.
Sure, sure.
Like it's like, it's really nice to be relaxed.
But yeah, silence is like so big, especially when you're at a party.
Yeah.
The toughest thing that I'm still haven't like gotten used to is like leaving a conversation.
Like that's really difficult for me.
Like I always want to, I always walk, I always want to walk away on the best part of the
conversation.
Yep.
I don't like when people don't know that I'm trying to end a conversation.
That's frustrating.
When you're like, when your feet are positioned the other way.
Yeah.
And then they're like, and they're still asking you like new words to pull you in.
I find that kind of bizarre.
It's, it's nice when you have encumberments in your life.
Cause that's always a reason.
Like I'll be at a party here and I'll be like, Oh, I got to go check on Naveen, which I
actually do.
Oh, look, you've reasons.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've got to grab Naveen a drink.
This was fun.
I'll be back.
I'll see you in a minute.
Yo, you've hit me with that a lot.
That's a good one, Jay.
That's a really good one.
My kids are calling.
My kids are calling.
Oh, I'm so sorry.
My daughter's calling.
Incredible.
Jay, what can I say?
What can I say then?
I got to check on Julia.
I got to check on Dave.
Don't say that.
That's really funny.
Say, you know what?
Julia wanted me to do something.
I'll be right back.
I'll be right back.
It's incredible.
You know what I love?
I can't imagine that rolling off John's tongue.
I love, I love when I'm at a party.
I'm like, I gotta, I'm like, I gotta get the fuck out.
I love when I'm at a party here and I'm with people that I don't have to say anything.
Yes.
That's so good.
It's like an island.
I always find those people.
I love it.
I'll like, I'll come over and I'll, I'll stand next to Ella.
I also.
I don't have to say anything.
Okay.
Just like Stella.
Back to your silence thing and exactly what you're saying now.
It's also like, I love the people that I can, even, even if they're not like your island,
even if it's not like a Joe, like Joe Volpis, you can say.
Great, great island.
Yes.
And he'll say random things and you'll just be like, yes or no, whatever.
But even if it's like a kind of a newer person, if you could just, if you go, I just like,
I want to sit here and be quiet.
Like, no, not that.
But like, do you know what I mean?
Like you let them know why you're coming back.
I just need a place to sit.
I'm exhausted.
That's good.
That's good.
I like that.
Yeah.
I like that.
Can I chill here for a sec?
Yeah.
I'm just saying I need to, I'm so tired of talking.
I need to sit down.
Would you do that to a stranger?
Yes, probably.
I did that to actually, it's really, it's really easy to do with elderly people, obviously.
Oh, incredible.
Yeah.
Cause they're like, they're already people watching and it's just, yeah.
And it's really comfortable to sit next to an older person.
Yeah.
They're on their way out.
Especially like an old aunt, like a 70 year old aunt that doesn't really want to talk.
That's the vibe.
Hey, you know, Naveen's little sister is visiting us this week and we figured out that this
six year old is Charlie's aunt.
Wait.
Oh my God.
Even though Charlie's 17.
Naveen has a six year old sister?
Yeah.
So she's staying with us for a week while her dad's in Mexico.
Wait.
That's crazy.
We were all out the other day.
We were dying laughing.
Charlie was like, wait a minute, you're my aunt.
And then the six year old was like, I'm your aunt.
It was so funny.
Isn't that interesting?
No.
What's crazy is that that's your sister-in-law.
Yeah.
That's crazy too.
That's crazy.
We were making that check too.
That's my sister-in-law.
That's your six year old.
Hey, how are you?
Sister-in-law.
Yeah.
That's fucking.
Yeah.
Because Naveen's dad had a kid and his second wife.
Wait, she's 33?
One?
I don't know how old Naveen is.
What?
But she's 30s, right?
Yeah.
So she's either 33 or 34 or 32.
I can't remember.
Okay.
And then how old's her dad?
Probably like 63.
Wow.
And this is a new wife?
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
You can't even call your uncle Nash.
No.
Damn.
She's really funny.
She's really fun too.
What up, Jason?
Hey, can I, let me ask you something.
I mean, that's wild, yeah.
Let me ask you something.
This is kind of a wild thought.
And I thought maybe you'd relate to this.
Have you ever, have you ever like been in your,
this has happened to me maybe like three or four times in my life.
Have you ever been in like alone, you're all alone,
and then in your mind you start to like freak out about like who you are?
And I don't mean who you are like David Dobrik,
right?
I mean, like. Do you ever, like, disconnect and you're like – or you ever just freak out because you're like, oh, my God, I'm me, I'm me, I'm me?
But, like, I can't even put it into words.
I'm me, I'm me, I'm me.
You start to freak out because you're like – it doesn't happen when I'm with other people.
It happens when I'm alone.
And I'm like, oh, my God, I'm me.
I've mentioned this before that sometimes I'm having thoughts where I can break out of my body.
Yeah.
Are you saying something like that?
Something like that, yeah.
Because you made fun of me last time I said this.
Like, I've been really close to, like, almost feeling like I'm breaking out of my body and, like, going into third person, hovering over my body.
But then I realize that I'm thinking about it and I shatter that whole illusion.
Yeah.
I guess I was doing the same thing and I made fun of you for it.
Yeah, see?
You were disassociating.
I've rubbed off on you.
Yeah, this has happened to me a few times in my life.
And then I'm like – and then I start to think about myself and I'm like, oh, my God.
Like, what?
Like, that's me.
Well, I would think that, too, if I found out I was you.
I'm like, no.
Are you ever on the road?
Are you ever on the road and you're like, I'm going to run into this car at 100 miles per hour and it's going to open a portal somewhere?
You ever think that to yourself?
No, I don't think that.
Oh, my God.
I think that every time I have a group of friends in my car.
I'm like, I have so many friends in my car.
How cool would it be if I just turned to all of them and be like, just trust me on this?
And then ran through, like, a part in the –
Either in the highway or another car or a tree at 100 miles per hour.
And then we ended up in some white portal and I was like, check this out.
I told you.
I just had a gut feeling about this.
Yeah, and I'd be like, we're all dead.
That's what desperately took us to.
We did that once on acid.
That was the closest thing I can relate to that is we were on acid.
We drove through a cornfield.
Really?
Yeah.
That's – what?
Who was driving?
My friend was driving and we just – he was just like, let's go.
But that's different because a cornfield.
Cornfield is, like, kind of a funny place to drive through, no?
Yes.
Do people like doing that?
It's pretty scary too, though.
Even though I could never imagine doing that.
That one scene from Interstellar where they almost hit the tractor freaks me out so much.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm like, how the fuck did they not hit the tractor?
I don't know.
It's, like, such a small part of the movie, but for some reason I think about that so much.
John, if I ran into a big tree 100 miles per hour and we got to heaven.
Yeah.
And it's fucking terrible.
Pick ass.
Yeah.
Second we get there, it's, like, everything you've ever wanted.
Jollibee.
Sure.
Can't get fat.
Unlimited.
Infinity pools.
Everything.
Yeah.
Would you be mad?
Yes.
Really?
Yes.
Even if it's incredible?
100%.
No way.
I'm not even joking.
100%.
What if the gifts kept coming?
I would have some resentment until, like, you'd have to convince me for, like, a full year or something.
Well, but I'd be like, dude, your parents are going to be here in, like, 15 years.
Like, chill.
Yeah.
But I'm like –
Like, I could still be with them.
But you'll be with them for eternity when they get here.
Yeah, for sure.
But, like –
But you're not with them.
But I'm not with them right now.
They live in Chicago.
Yeah.
Yeah, you're not with them right now.
They're in Chicago.
So it's basically –
It's not the same.
It's kind of like I already crashed you into that tree and brought you to LA.
I still talk to my parents, like, twice a week.
But what if you could still – I'd let you communicate with them as a ghost.
Like, you can knock shit over at the house.
And they'll be like, is that John?
But you'll never be able to say anything.
They'll just think it's you.
Do you believe in things like that?
Well, you're, like, such an atheist where you're going to say no.
But, John, do you believe in things like that?
Don't do that.
Don't say what I'm going to say next on this podcast.
You have no idea.
You don't know what's in my brain.
Okay, when, like, people get married –
So stupid.
When people get married and, like, a dove comes or, like, a butterfly comes and lands on the person.
And then people will be like, that's your dead mom being at the wedding like she promised you.
Like, do you believe in that stuff?
Depends.
Depends how good it is.
If it's really good, I could –
I could go that way.
If it's really good, if the dove comes down in a blue jacket that, you know, it's the same color as your dad's blue jacket, you know, I'd be like, hmm, maybe.
Yeah, I do believe in that.
I can see that.
There was one the other day where they went to go spread someone's ashes in a lake.
And they were like, proof that my mom is still with us.
The ashes spelled out, I love you.
At least that's what the caption said.
Oh, wow.
But all the comments were like, that doesn't say I love you.
Like, all the comments were like, you guys are making shit up.
Like, that doesn't even say a single word.
So, yeah, there are – I guess there are some where I'm like, eh, I don't know.
Maybe it was –
I've had that, though.
Like, I think from my grandpa's funeral, there was, like, little orbs around for all the photos we took in front of the casket.
You're a big orb guy.
Yeah.
But isn't that just dust?
That's what I thought, too.
But, like, it doesn't happen anywhere else, like, other than those pictures.
Is Jollibee dust?
Yeah, is that dust from all the leftover fried chicken?
I don't know, man.
I don't know, dude.
I don't think so.
Which, honestly –
I think, in some regard, would still be a sign of his grandpa enjoying the Jollibee.
Shooting up the fried chicken back up to heaven.
John, where do you think we go after when we die?
I think we go to heaven.
Wow.
I would hope.
I would hope.
What about Natalie?
Oh, God.
Tough question, right?
Tough question.
I don't want to put you on the spot, but we all know where she goes.
This is technically her heaven right now.
Hey, Natalie, welcome to hell.
Is it mean that we talk about Natalie like that?
Like that?
When she's not here?
Yeah.
Yeah, but she has to listen to this before it goes up, so she basically approves it.
Do you know what I mean?
She gives her stamp of approval on the pod.
Is it not right?
For sure.
I don't think you should ever talk about someone when they're not in the room.
Yeah, like –
When they're your best friend, I think it's fine.
But, yeah, no, I could totally see why that would be wrong.
Yeah, I don't know.
Well, we'll see.
We'll see how she feels.
If it's in the podcast, it means she agrees with it and she's going to hell.
Oh, I agree.
All right, guys.
Listen, that is all the time we have for today.
This has been a great episode with my best buds.
We're going to get Natalie in the next one.
Buckle in.
The next one is going to be from Los Angeles again.
We're here to stay, baby.
More L.A. stories coming right at you.
Thank you for everything, and we'll see you guys soon.
Bye.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The hosts discuss a minor disagreement over filming technique, emphasizing that people should film as if they're watching the scene themselves, not just recording through their eyes.
John and Dave have a playful but tense dynamic, with John frequently giving constructive criticism that he doesn’t always act on, and Dave often ad-libbing during conversations.
The hosts reflect on their recent trip to the Hamptons and Canada, highlighting logistical challenges like exorbitant hotel prices due to CanLions monopolies and the difficulty of securing accommodations.
A humorous anecdote about a store employee misreading $9.11 as “9-11” during a visit to a convenience store underscores the absurdity and humor in everyday interactions.
The episode explores personal boundaries, with Dave noting that he often feels overwhelmed by small talk and prefers silence, while also reflecting on the emotional weight of solitude and identity.
The hosts touch on spiritual beliefs, including ghostly signs like doves and ash patterns, with Dave expressing cautious openness to the idea of afterlife connections.
There’s a recurring joke about Natalie being “in hell” during the podcast, as she must approve content before it’s released, which the hosts use as both satire and a commentary on accountability.
The hosts share behind-the-scenes insights from a business vlog, discussing challenges in filming meetings, the success of mentor Darman, and their plans for future content.
Summary:
The podcast features a lively, self-deprecating discussion among hosts Dave and John, framed by a mix of personal anecdotes, professional observations, and humor. They reflect on a recent trip to the Hamptons and Canada, where high costs and logistical hurdles—especially the monopolistic hotel pricing via CanLions—emphasize the financial strain of travel. 11 as “9-11,” adding a surreal layer of absurdity to their daily experiences.
The conversation delves into personal dynamics, such as Dave’s discomfort with small talk and his preference for silence, contrasting with John’s more energetic style. They also explore deeper themes like identity, solitude, and spiritual connections, sharing beliefs about ghosts, doves, and afterlife signs, though maintaining a skeptical, grounded tone. A recurring joke about Natalie “being in hell” for podcast content underscores their playful approach to accountability and editing.
The hosts also discuss a new business vlog, highlighting challenges in filming meetings and the influence of mentors like Darman, while expressing future plans for content expansion. Overall, the episode balances humor, vulnerability, and insight, offering a candid look at their work, relationships, and personal quirks.
FAQs
John Jason Nash is hosting the podcast instead of Natalie.
The argument stemmed from a filming error where Natalie filmed the scene incorrectly, leading John to criticize her for not filming as he suggested—filming like you’d want to watch it, with eyes on the phone.
John believes people often film with their eyes looking through the lens instead of at the camera, making it look unnatural. He emphasizes that filming should be done like you’d want to watch it, with full attention and intention.
John joked that he has poor hand-eye coordination, admitting he's had to hold a phone for calls and has never gotten it right, though he noted he’s achieved perfect calls only seven times.
John humorously suggests cloning a genius’s brain to improve everyone’s intelligence, saying that if everyone had the same level of insight, it would eliminate chaos and create a more efficient environment.
Staying at hotels in Can is extremely expensive due to a monopoly held by Can Lions, which requires a $10,000 pass per week to access rooms, making it nearly impossible to book without paying a large fee.
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