The Snack: Fat Bears, White House Media Ban, and the Iced Coffee Debate
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The episode combines personal, political, and cultural commentary through a mix of humor and sharp critique. Mike reflects on wearing childlike pajamas, questioning the balance between comfort and public appropriateness. A central political issue centers on FBI Director Kash Patel’s attempt to remove a ban on bestiality, which is condemned as a lack of empathy and evidence, sparking broader criticism of how society handles taboo topics like pedophilia or necrophilia. The segment on Fat Bear Week offers a joyful, community-driven celebration of bears, where public votes determine the fattest and most resilient animal. Taylor Swift’s recent public statements and chaotic behavior on *Secret Lives of Mormon Wives* are dissected as evidence of personal mental health struggles and toxic drama, raising concerns about her influence and the show’s content. A heated debate over whether job interviewees should bring iced coffee highlights tensions between professionalism and personal comfort, with both sides arguing over workplace norms. The Ed Sheeran controversy is analyzed as a case of artistic and political accountability, with criticism of his teleprompter use and lack of authenticity. Finally, the episode condemns President Trump’s ban of press access and his refusal to allow media coverage, calling it a clear violation of free speech and democratic principles. Throughout, the show blends personal anecdotes with critical commentary on culture, power, and accountability.
This week on The Snack
Mike's off at the White House
Bestiality and an iced coffee debate
This is a Dear Media production
Enjoy
Hi guys
Look at us
We are here
We're doing it
Do I look weird with a jacket on?
I meant to ask you before we started recording
Do I look weird with these pajamas?
These children's pajamas?
I thought this was the cutest set
And I feel like I'm a kid on Christmas morning
Be honest
It's the color
It's just too light
It looks like a
No, I know
Listen, I was so excited about this
And I just wanted to be cozy today
And I was like
I don't feel appropriate on the streets of New York
Like, I don't know
I used to live here and run around
And like work out clothes
And it
You got a little L.A. comfy
It's too light
This in black is not an issue
Listen, I will pretty much
You can wear anything on the streets
And I would never shame you
Like, I think fashion is just whatever you want it to be
There's like no rules anymore
Totally
But that
That's a little
We should keep it in the house
I didn't
Yeah, I don't know
I mean, it's for the streets
It's not pajamas
I love the top
Yeah, you look great
But I wore the top with like a black legging
And that felt a little different
Than these gray pants
It's the pants
They're too smooth
I need like a rib on them
Or I need them to be looser
Or I need them to be tighter
They're too smooth
Like, I need them
I just
I feel like I'm gonna see your whole vagina line
But why wouldn't I see that
Yeah, in a legging
I lower half
These are not meant for it
You know what I mean?
In the front, in the back
I brought jeans for lunch
You know what?
Because I was like
I just don't know what like we're
I don't know if you're going
But I'm meeting Bobby for lunch
Where are you going to lunch?
I don't know
Wow
So I was like
Are we getting like fast casual?
Or are we gonna
I don't know, go to the Smith
And I don't want to
I just need to wear a jean
Yeah
But to answer your question
Yeah, you know what I like about this conversation
Is that I asked you a question about me
And you were like
What I'm gonna do is talk about me
And that's very me coded
I'm channeling you
Yeah
Always bring it back to you
In the most serious of moments
Yeah, I like that jacket
Okay
I think you're gonna get a little hot in here
Under these lights
I am a little hot
All right, well
Let me throw a t-shirt on
While you guys are watching
Who knows?
Who's to say?
All right, well
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I'm foaming at the mouth
Over this report today
Okay, guys
We are gonna kick it off
With an animal report
And it may not be what you think
Okay
I saw this headline come through
I literally like
Could not wait to talk about this
I am so excited
So Kash Patel
The cross-eyed director of the FBI
Yes
Has basically
Up until now
Bestiality
And basically sleeping with animals
Was an automatic
Sleeping with
We're not
You making it sound intimate
Fucking animals
Making love to animals
Was an automatic disqualifier
To being in the FBI
And he has now petitioned
To lift that ban
Yes
So he
He's been
Had a testimony
In front of the Senate Judiciary Committee
Last Tuesday
That
And he said
That the new rules
Were put into place
Because quote
We did not want to punish
Victims of bestiality
Victims who were trafficked
Can I just say
We all know this administration
Does not give a
Flying fuck
About victims of
Trafficking
The number one trafficker
Is the President of the United States
If you guys cared
You would do something about
The abusers
In the Epstein files
Including the President
Just say you want to fuck a goat
Just say you want to fuck animals
Like this is totally insane
And so the whole thing is like
They added this in
Or they removed it
Bottom line is like
You could have just left it
And then he's in this hearing
Which is the most insane
Back and forth you've ever seen
With this old Republican Senator
So the transcript is available
And it is
Honestly it's insane
I truly could not believe
What I was reading
So he says what Ashley said
And then Republican Senator John Kennedy says
Why would you even get into bestiality
And Patel says
Our response
We are not into bestiality
And then Kennedy says
I know you're not
But you challenged the qualification
You mentioned bestiality
You're not telling us today
If a human had sex with an animal
That they could still be
An FBI agent
Yeah so then they go back and forth
And he comes up with this
Trafficking response
Again like
Tell us without telling us
You want to fuck a horse
So then the Senator
John Kennedy's like
Did you come up with this Cash?
And he said no
No someone else did
Someone else said it
His explanation was
That somebody at the FBI
Showed him an unspecified case
Involving applicants
Who were forced into bestiality
And so apparently
Apparently this is a real problem
Okay so then
John
John Kennedy
Is that his name?
Like JFK?
It is Robert Kennedy
Sorry I take it back
It's not RFK
It's John Kennedy
Republican Senator John Kennedy
So
Which also RFK is totally fucked up
To Animal 2
At first I thought it was RFK
And I was like
Why is he against this?
Or no he just like
Kills animals
He puts them in his car
I don't know
Whatever he's got going on
So he goes
And when this person
Brought this to you Cash
Did you not say
What planet are you from?
Like I hate nothing more than
An old dusty Republican Senator
But really he held his feet to the fire
Because he's like
What are we doing?
Cash Patel was like
Really trying to do something
He was like
I am going to stand up
For this disenfranchised
Marginalized community
And you know
It's through zero faults of their own
That they had sex with an animal
Whose fault was it?
You know what I gotta say
Why stop there?
Because we have pedophilia covered
Now we have bestiality covered
What about necrophilia?
Dendrophilia
Sex with trees
Agalmatophilia
Which I just looked up
Dolls and mannequins
What about the one
Where you have sex with the ground
Like in Saltburn?
Okay
That didn't come up
On my Google search
It's giving necrophilia
Like trees and the ground
Like nature
You get turned on by nature
Necrophilia is dead bodies though
Dendrophilia
Sorry
Dendrophilia
Dendrophilia
Sex with trees
Okay
Sounds like dandelion
Like this administration
Right now is so sick
Like how about
We all just have sex
With consenting human adults
Is that so much to ask?
Let's not bring anything else
Into the mix
Like if you were trafficked
And you were forced
To have sex with an animal
And you've applied to the FBI
And didn't get in
Because of it previously
Please leave a comment
But I just don't think
That's happened
Also like
I guess there can be
Exceptions to rules
And we don't have
And we can like
Cross that bridge
When we come to it
Why have we used
The precious time
Of our United States government
I mean what else
Are they doing?
But like this needed
To go to court
We need to stop
No like let's cross that bridge
When we get to it
Like it's in the FBI bylaws
It's like we could allow it
Let's just worry about it
When it happens
He also never explained
What those circumstances
Look like
How many cases
Of this existed
He never provided
Evidence or examples
Citing privacy concerns
He was like
It does happen
We just can't tell you about it
Right
And you know
You know the crazy part
Is that prior to 2016
Maybe even if this happened
In Trump 1.0
This would be
The biggest headline
Because of how insane it is
Like if James Comey
Had done this
You know what I mean
But this is just like
Another day
This didn't even make
Top headlines I bet
If Democrats
Brought this to the floor
This was niche
The Republicans would be
Carrying torches
Like I can't believe
We're wasting our time on this
This is just another day
We have the Paul brothers
Going to the Pentagon
Like this country
Is a clown
Show
Like is
Cash Patel not
Embarrassed
He's like
I would like these words
To come out of my mouth
I would like to bring this
To the floor of the House
And the Senate
I would like to say
Out loud
In front of hundreds of people
And the world
That bestiality
Should be a protected class
So Cash Patel
Is totally incompetent
But he can't own it
Like they're all so terrible
Pete Hegseth
When he speaks
He speaks with conviction
He's wrong
He's a horrible person
He's misogynist
Racist
All the things
But Cash Patel
Can't own it
So it makes
Makes me think
Someone set him up
It makes me think
Someone saw an opening
To be like
Cash
I gotta tell you
There's all these
Trafficking victims
That have been forced
To have sex with animals
It's a work prank
And you need to bring this
To the Senate
It's a work prank
He's so
He's the person
That would buy it
Remember that time
That you thought
That TV show
That fictional TV show
Was real
Yeah I forget what it was about
It was about how
We all have a soulmate
In the world
And there was a company
That could find it for you
And you thought
That was real
I was just really desperate
To find someone at the time
I was just really on the hunt
I'm not
Sometimes
I think that I don't need
Romantic love
The way that other people do
I think that's great
It would be sad
If you were like
Desperate to find someone
And you felt like you couldn't
I mean
I think that you can
Obviously
But like
If you were desperate
To find love
You would have
Not broken up
With the guy
That was just
Really into you
You know
Sometimes I just think
Like why do I
I don't need anybody
Besides for sex
Because I have you
And Emily and Melanie
We've been fucking you guys
No she doesn't have sex
With me
But if you did
That would totally
Neutralize my need
For a partner
Yeah
I never sit around
In my house
And think
You know what makes
This experience better
Is a man
I know
And if you ever get horny
Hit the zoo
And join the FBI
Okay so on a lighter note
In our animal report
It is fat bear week
Hell yeah
So fat bear week
Is a single elimination tournament
Where the public votes online
For the fattest
Most successful bear
This is in Canada
Sorry sorry
Alaska you guys
Let me be clear
Canada and Alaska
Get them all twisted up
Okay so
Fatter bears
Have the best chance
To survive winter hibernation
The bear with the most votes
Advances
And then won
Winner is crowned
Fat bear week champion
On Tuesday
September 29th
And you can go to
Explore.org
To find out
all this and to vote. I think it's very funny that voters decide by comparing early and late
summer photos of the bears. So it's based on how fat they got. This is the opposite of like
American like game shows that we had growing up, like The Biggest Loser. It's just like,
how much weight can you gain? So you meet the bears. They're all on the website. The website
looks like it's the Oregon Trail. Honestly, this website has not been updated since 95. And I love
that nostalgia. So there are more plus prong. You meet the bears and then you consider their
life history, their unique challenges they face. There's a bio on each. And there are four
categories. Bear families, sub-adults. What's that mean? Single teens. Okay. Single adult females
and adult males, which when I read these, it was the low-key giving porn category. We have family,
stuff family for you. Sub, sub-adults. That's for Donald Trump and Epstein and all them.
I was thinking more submissive, not teens. Oh, I thought Matt.
When I said porn, you didn't. I said sub-adult. And I was like, oh, you were right. Teens. But
I'm thinking submissive adults.
All so sexy. Single adult females. I just think it was funny. Okay. So I have a pick for us. I
don't know if you checked them out, but there's really only one that spoke to me. These are like
the categories, like best actor, best supporting actor. Okay. And then I think you vote from each
category. Again, guys, it's a little confusing. I wish I understood this better, but just get in
there. You'll explore literally on explore.org and then you'll vote. So I just wanted to give
you guys our pick this year. It is a single female. She's number 910. Again, some of them have names,
some of them have numbers. It's confusing, but this is a large adult female who has dark brown fur,
a prominent brow ridge, and somewhat,
short forward pointing ears. Born in 2016, Bear 910 is the daughter of former Fat Bear Week
champion. So she's a legacy 409 bead nose and then sister to 909. Just a little bit about her.
She, this is where I really think it would speak to you. So she separated from that litter in late
spring 2025. Since then, she's lived alone and has used the opportunity to fish wherever and
whenever she wants. She is me. That's what I'm saying. She's like, I'm going to do whatever
the fuck I want. I'm just going to do me. And large and healthy female bears attract the
desires of many males. So body fat is really what attracts the males. It's like the ability
to nurse their newborn cubs. 910 looks well endowed. Her previous life experience, success,
and her skills in building fat give her the position to achieve even more life. So we have
a single independent woman who loves to eat. Not on this epic. She loves salmon. She just wants to
be alone. Whatever she wants. So Bear 910. But I mean, you know, there's read about them and see
which one speaks to you. And I think that's a good thing. I think that's a good thing. Okay. Did you pick a family
for us? Um, I just thought a single woman would be our out of the whole. Okay. I agree. No, I'm with
you. I don't care about families. But check out the family. I'm never gonna have one of those. I
don't care about that. And that's our animal report. It's so delightful. Um, should we move
into our Taylor report? We have a Taylor report. Yes. Okay. So Taylor Swift. I mean, she was
obviously at the Chiefs game. She is on camera watching Travis Kelsey and she is yelling at his
clip. That's my husband. I don't care about the Chiefs. What do you score? He passed like whatever.
She pointed a ring. Yeah. The clip that went viral. Again, this is really her first big sighting
of the NFL season. I think he scored. I think he scored. Yeah. Let's just call it that. And she
just like points at the ring and like mouths, that's my husband. I thought it was very cute.
The cutest. It's the cutest. I mean, like. Oh my God, it's so cute. If you're gonna hate on it,
you just hate her. Which is fine. I actually was really surprised when I saw like a couple people
being like the internet's divided about this. That's her man. She's proud of him. Yeah. What,
I actually was like shocked. And I mean, people just want a problem with everything. I thought it
was cute. And also, look what she has been through. She's just like, Joe Alwyn, what's that
guy doing? Matt Healy, who just like fucked her over and just like strung her along. She had John
Mayer, who's one of the more famous fuckboys in America, just fucked with everybody. And she gets
her guy. She's happy. She's excited. She's just, I think it's the cutest thing. I couldn't believe
people had a problem with it. I just saw some, I mean, people also just are probably just posting
rage bait, but I just like, you know, make marriage cool again. But I liked her hair. Is
for sure. Did we know this? She didn't communicate it with me. Did I miss something? Like she's cut
her hair since her wedding, right? Yes, absolutely. So I love this hair. She's wearing a tank top.
It's from Aaron Andrews brand, Wear by EA, which I had never heard of. $40 tank top sold out during
the game. It was very kind of Abercrombie in the nineties, early
two thousands, like the cut and the style. I thought it was really cute and you know, good
for her. And I'd be showing that ring off too. Okay. Taylor, Frankie, Paul, huge news. Huge news.
She has announced in a rather wordy statement. I thought I was having a stroke, but I don't
follow her. And then I went and read some of her other posts and like, yeah, it's just,
it's a lot of words and you know, she's, she's letting it out. It's giving diary entry. I mean,
she's just stream of consciousness. Let it go. Yeah. So she announced that she will be leaving
secret lives of Mormon wives. And so in the post, she kind of cycles through like
accountability and victimhood and martyrhood and martyrhood, martyrdom, martyrdom,
and reinvention. I mean, she just kind of changes her tone throughout this post saying like,
I wanted to leave before, and now I'm going to go back to having left, but I was bullied,
but this is the best thing for me. And it's just, she sort of like, just goes back and forth.
She's an interesting character because she both created the show, but she is destroying the show.
That is the take. There was no show without her and there will never be another season like this.
I mean, they'll do spinoffs and whatnot. I don't think it will ever reach this level of
popularity. Also, it was the first season of it, but she needs to go for her own mental health.
And then they don't want to film with her. And then Michaela came out last week and was like,
this is why I'm leaving the show. I can't be on this show with her. And so you said,
we'll see if it sticks. She's making a statement. Would she go back on it? Would they let her back
on? I have no idea. I mean, this is just really chaotic. I think they'll let her back on. I think
she's like some great television and I'm guilty of it too, where I'm like, this person shouldn't be on TV,
but I tune in to watch her. And I don't subscribe to some, sometimes she says, you know, I created
all this. Of course I should be in charge of it. I'm, I created, I'm the leader. It's like, yeah,
but you're also the person that has made everybody not want to film, but she is the most famous
person. She's the most chaotic. It's like, would people tune in without her? I don't know. I'm
guilty of it too. Yeah. I mean, I guess you could test that by giving her a spinoff. Not that that's
what should happen. She's unwell, but give her her own crazy spinoff. Give her a Rob and Chyna.
What did she say in the car? She's, are you texting bitches? Like Rob and Chyna was one of
the most toxic shows where it was like, I don't know this, this shouldn't be, shouldn't be watching
this. And that's kind of what it's turned into. I know. And I mean, to me, there's a real, and I
think we've talked about this before. There's a real difference between like drama that feels
like things that do happen every day in real life, like West and Amanda and Kyle and Summer House.
And of course that's all a horrible situation, but people break up and then they sleep with their,
their spouse, ex-spouse's friends. This does happen. It doesn't feel like a sick level of
drama. Yeah. The stuff with Taylor, Frankie, Paul and Dakota. I mean, they're calling child
protective services on each other. Her children aren't safe. I think that's the thing for me.
Yeah. If she didn't have kids, I'd be like, let her cook. I mean, obviously I care about
people's mental health, of course, but I think that's the part that's like, lady,
you got to take care of your kids. This is just too much. Like we, everyone feels for
the children involved in this. I saw another post because I was on her Instagram where she
said she's celibate now, ma'am. I'm sorry. Maybe she is. I can't picture a world in which her and
I can't picture a world in which they are ever in the same vicinity. So I just thought that was
interesting. And she just, you can tell the behavior because the way she responds back to
comments and stuff, like she's just going through it. I don't know, like someone like that needs
treatment or medication and for their own sake, she eggs people on a line. And then she says,
I'm being bullied. And there was a situation like last week with like Layla and Miranda and her and
Chase. And she did something that was a little provocative towards them. And
then they clap back at her and she claims victim and whatever it is, this person like does need
help and should be like taken off the television. It's just, it's like enough. And if I was the
other cast members in season five, all these women who have built really big followings on
their own, their own businesses. If I was a facilitator to a storyline for five episodes
about the same shit that we've been watching for the last four seasons, which is Taylor and Dakota
and no one focused on me or my business or my family or my marriage, I would be like, what am I
doing here? Like if I'm Jesse, if I'm any of these other characters. Yeah. I mean, getting a paycheck
relaxing. I'm sure they had to film just as much time. I'm sure there was cameras in their homes
and true. I mean, listen, I would collect a paycheck if I was just there to like hang out.
Okay. You write a little bit of bullshit. Okay. Let's just take a break and then we will pick it
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interviews. Now it doesn't always have to be Gen Z, but I guess this is how it started. It can be
anybody of any age, any candidate. Yeah. More so Gen Z for arriving to interviews with iced coffee
in hand. And she is a recruiter. And she said, when you show up with an iced coffee or an iced
latte, it's perceived from my opinion and a hiring standpoint that this interview was
just a stop on your list of errands for the day. It looks like you went to Target, went to Starbucks,
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and this debate raged online. I think most people are in agreement of that, but some people aren't.
That you do not need to bring it. Yeah. How do you feel? I would love to start by saying that I love
that hot coffee isn't even in this debate. As a hot coffee drinker, because, oh, I kind of thought
of it as just showing up with a beverage to an interview. I know, but I want to speak on it from
a hot coffee girl. Okay. If you brought a hot coffee, it would be better than a wet dripping
cup. But us hot coffee drinkers would never. I just think we have more sophistication,
professionalism, and not say that iced coffee drinkers don't, but I just love how we're not
even in the conversation. We would like to be excluded from this narrative. I'm an iced coffee
drinker and I have tons of professionalism and class. I also don't put ice in my iced coffee,
if you guys are new here. So it's actually not to me. I
was thinking the sound of just an iced beverage I don't love. That sounds a little too fucking
casual to me. I don't like when people bring it into our studio. No, I'm also, again, I'm just
making jokes because I'm a hot coffee ass bitch. Showing up with a coffee at all is insane. It's
exactly what she said. It's like, this is a casual part of your day. You didn't manage your time. Why
didn't you have your coffee already? You would just stop and get it on the way to a job interview. A
straw. You're going to drink out of a straw at a job interview. Tell me you're drinking out of a
straw at a job interview while this cup drips on what your lap or a desk. Where are you going to
put it? You haven't thought this through. It's deeper than that. I'm sorry because you know what
you have on your person, what you're wearing, what you're holding when you walk into a job
interview, if it means something to you. So you're thinking I'm going to roll up in there and do what
with this cup and sip this straw in someone's face?
See, I totally agree. When I was 22, I worked at this job and Melanie and I were waitresses there
and my boss was this big, giant Serbian guy. And it was like a pretty serious restaurant. She and
I were, I don't know, probably drunk and laughing. And he came up to me and he said, you're a little
too fucking comfortable. And I hear that in my head all the time. Like it's not as deep as that,
but I would never talk to somebody like that. But I do hear it in my head. You're a little too
fucking comfortable. People are welcome to have a snack and a beverage before they walk into a
you should be able to get through an interview without needing to hydrate. And no one's starving
you. No, no, no, no. This is like a little too sensitive. The people on the internet that are
like, you should let people have drinks. People can get through an interview for 45 minutes
without drinking. Listen, I'll push back. You can hydrate. Who has ever gone to a job interview and
not been offered a water? Or if you actually said, do you have a water? You should be offered the
beverage in the building. But this isn't about hydration. Stop it. This is not about hydration.
That's not what coffee's for. I'm just saying.
I understand. If you're going to talk for an hour, you can have a water. You don't need to
bring your iced coffee. I don't even think hydration is in the conversation. This is a
whole different thing. I'm telling you the comments that I read, people being like,
people should be allowed to hydrate. Well, that's a terrible argument.
Also, someone called this ableism. No, the arguments are crazy. And the people that were
actually disabled were like, do not say this is ableism that you need to have your iced coffee.
We've taken it too far. Also, by the way, it's the smelliest of the beverages. It makes your
it does smell. You don't need it. I want to go to an interview smelling perfect and not dripping
coffee breath in a room. It's just like you look casual, a little too fucking comfortable.
And if that's how you want to treat a job interview, you better hope that potential
future employer feels the same way. And they probably don't. And I so like one of I saw that
one Gen Z TikToker explained the fight isn't about lattes, but about rejecting arbitrary
standards of professionalism, which I just like don't agree with at all. Like,
we hire people. I would not stand for this dress for the job you want. It doesn't include a cold
brew. Get out of here. If somebody showed up for an interview, I was thinking that somebody showed
up for an interview and I and they like had their little coffee even on a Zoom interview. I wouldn't
like it. And it wouldn't be something I would be like texting you about being like, can you
believe this? I would just be like, huh, it's a little comfortable for my for me. It just looks
like, again, you just this was a stop on your day. So I want to read a couple of my favorite
threads. This one says, go ahead and bring that iced coffee to a job interview. Eat a
cheeseburger or doctor's appointment. Show up to court with a bowl of ice cream. Why shouldn't you
have everything you want at exactly the moment you want it? And that's the problem. Have some
fucking restraint. This says, when did professionalism become oppression? Why does everything
have to be casual? The iced coffee discourse is insane. It's unprofessional. As a head of talent
acquisition and recruiter for Fortune 10 companies for over 20 years, I've watched professionalism
decline in real time. We're watching basic standards become controversial. And then this
one, don't stop at iced coffee. Take powdered donuts, Nature Valley granola bars, seafood boils
and tacos to your interviews, too. You got this.
You don't have to. And again, you can have a water and you can bring a water. Like if I brought
my tote bag to a job interview and I might I'm going to talk for an hour, potentially I might
get a little parched. I would bring my water bottle out of my bag if I hadn't been offered
a water. Hydration is allowed. Sure. Coffee do better. I just like we can't have a problem
with everything all the time. Like there are just some standards.
There's a society that we can we just like adhere to them like just we don't need to be bringing a
loud, smelly, sweating beverage into an interview. Someone said a condensation cup. Yeah, it's the
straw for me. Can you picture it? Sipping from a straw in a job interview. I mean, certainly not
if it was a man. If I watched a man sip with a straw in an interview. Oh, my God. So let us know
what you guys think. But if you think you should do that, you're wrong. You can't work here.
You can work somewhere else. And we are hiring.
It's not going to be you. Oh, my God. I was interviewing when I used to work for Union
Square Cafe for Danny Meyer. I was interviewing people for like hostess positions. And somebody
emailed me and asked what the address of the building was. And I just never wrote back.
I was like, you can't work here because it's about you, your ability to figure things out
on your own and problem solve. Yeah. I mean, this was while the Internet existed. I know
this was a while ago, but the Internet was alive and kicking. And to me,
when we are interviewing candidates, I am thinking about the way their brains work
and how they function through their thought process.
process. So the thought process of I'm heading to interview with Girls Gotta Eat, let me grab
my iced coffee on the way and bring it is not the thought process I want to hire. And you could be
a great employee. You could do the job. But that's what I'm thinking about if I'm the employer.
If somebody showed up to ours with iced coffee, I would be like, they think that we're friends.
And I do want to be like friends with all you, especially Ashley really wants to be friends
with all of you. But I don't want to hire one of our besties. I want to hire somebody who's
going to keep us in line. If you get the job, you can bring your iced coffee to work every day.
365. Every single day. Every day of your life. It's just the fucking interview. Yeah, that's it.
Okay. And we just want to give an update on this Ed Sheeran controversy. Macklemore,
we talked about it last week. So right after we recorded last week, news broke that Ed Sheeran's
openers and his band quit the tour in solidarity with Macklemore. And of course, the opposition
of censorship, the way that situation was handled. So I just want to say that
I was kind of a part of this drama and like the fallout from it. I went to Dermot Kennedy this
past weekend in Boston. So exciting. Life-changing concert, guys. I can't recommend enough. Like I
just, that's like my favorite artist outside of Beyonce. I just, I feel like my heart was like
breaking and bursting at the same time. It was so great. If you have a chance to see him, you should.
So two days before the concert, we get a notification. The concert time has been moved
from 8 to 7.30. Okay. Moved up. I find that interesting. Don't you? It's moved up a half
hour. And I didn't really think much of it. But Alyssa, we,
went to the concert with Alyssa Amoroso, our friend and her husband, Sean. And she looked it
up and she saw that they had added an opener. And that's why it went 30 minutes earlier. So in
addition to the one opener they had, they had added this other opener, this Irish singer-songwriter
named Aaron Rowe. Okay. Because he had left Ed Sheeran's tour. So the night that we saw him,
that was the night in Philly that we're going to talk about. So he was not on Ed Sheeran's tour.
So Dermot Kennedy brought him onto his tour. Wow. I could cry thinking about this. I know. I was
like, I don't know what went down. Obviously, these are all Irish performers. So maybe he wanted
to make sure he had a job or made some more money since he's quitting this tour. And Aaron Rowe,
we loved him. We loved his energy. He was incredible. Just really no fucks kind of
attitude. And I saw his statement when he left Ed Sheeran's tour. It was nice. It was professional
and kind. But I'm going to do this and stand in solidarity with what's happening. And I just think
that was crazy. And Alyssa and I were like, we're in the drama. We're part of this fallout.
And it was cool to see that that really happened. So that was happening on our end in Boston. And
meanwhile, Ed Sheeran was making a statement at his show in Philly. Crazy to pay to see Ed Sheeran
at the link. But, you know, that's you do you, you guys. And he opened the show with this apology,
essentially. And we're going to discuss it. I don't want to spend too, too much time on it.
I know it's juicy. I know it's a big news item right now. You know,
part of me just doesn't want to contribute to this problem of holding musical artists more accountable
than the billionaire who started this shit in the first place, who's the real villain,
our politicians, our administration. Like his statement was what I expected. I knew he would
not please everybody. I think that he said some worthy things. I think it also felt a little
self-centered and authentic at times. People also felt like this arrived. You were he was very like
up the middle before. I'm not political. And then everybody quit. And this affected ticket sales.
But he's yeah, maybe. But I'm not certain of all the statistics on the ticket sales of the
stadium was full, I guess. But the few things like later in the show, he kind of apologized
for the apology. He didn't walk it back, but he was like, I just want to apologize for earlier.
And I saw a comment that said, when you apologize for the apology, neutralize the apology. He said
it was the best show of his life. Oh, OK. After your whole band and all your your openers quit,
best show your life. He said his family and friends abandoned him, which is rough. You know,
no matter what you're canceled for, that is rough. Your family abandons you. But, you know,
he did this whole kind of what was me thing at the end. But I wanted to talk to you about
the teleprompter of it all. And I really want to hear your thoughts on this, because he was
reading off a teleprompter that was more at his feet. Yeah, obviously, it couldn't have been in
the back because everyone would have seen it and read it. But it was clear he was looking down and
he was reading the teleprompter at his feet. And I want to talk to you about this, because this
has been a real critique that I've seen that people were upset that he was upset or just
throwing shade. Yeah, I guess. And upset. So I didn't hate it as much as other people hated it.
And the reason why I think this is just really touchy. And I think that he's already stepped on
minds. And I'm glad you acknowledge it. I mean, I'm not on his side, but I'm glad you acknowledge
like Robert Kraft and other people are also to blame here. Yeah, he handled it terribly,
by the way. I'm not defending it. Handled so crazy poorly. Yes. And he really just was like
very wishy washy and said my promoter made me do this. I mean, he really just he made all the
wrong mistakes. Yes. So I do understand feeling like there are so many landmines and I want to
get this right. And I want to show that this matters to me. And so I can't memorize this long speech.
I wrote something and I want to read it to you. I don't think it's that crazy that he read off of
a teleprompter. This is a speech that needs to be read. You are talking about Gaza. You are in the
thick of this controversy. People are going to dissect every word. I would never raw dog this
shit. I would never. But what I would do is I would say I'm going to read this because I want
to get it right. Sure. I you know, I might have pulled out a piece of paper to make it seem more
authentic. Like I might have been like, I want to read this because I want to make sure I don't
get it wrong. And it's very important to me. At least I think addressing it would have been the
better move. Again, they're doing everything so right. I would have read that word for word. I
would have practiced it. So it would have felt more natural to me. But I really would have wanted
that. You're so right. I think he should have said, like, what has happened up until now is
really disheartening and it's affecting a lot of people. And I want to get this right. And there
is only one shot for him. You and I went to a late night monologue recently and it was long. And so
the person that was doing the monologue
paused and restarted and then it's edited together. We went to like a 4 p.m. taping of
something that was going to air at 11 p.m. So, I mean, you get a lot of shots at this. This is live.
By the way, he wrote that and had practiced it a million times and still read it off the
teleprompter. Yeah. I think it's crazy to have demanded that he memorize something that is
so touchy and in general, you know, I just I couldn't have been me. I would have needed to
read it from something. I think you're right. I think a woman would have
thought, let's have it on a piece of paper. Let's acknowledge this. This is really important.
I would have felt more authentic. So people's critique are like he was reading a prepared
statement from his PR company off a teleprompter. You might be right, but I'm not mad at the
teleprompter. And if that's your main critique, then I don't know. I think you should do better
at criticizing him because there's plenty to criticize. And I didn't like how did you watch
as soon as he finished his speech? He was like, now we're going to do these songs. He was like,
now watch this drive. Like it literally was so cringe. And then the way it was all handled,
like it was such a disaster. All of it. Like I'm not in defense of it, but I'm not going to get mad
about the teleprompter. No, me too. All the things to get mad about. That's not one of them.
Okay. Well, that is that. And we are just going to take a quick break and then talk about more
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any disease. Okay. And in other news, the world's biggest baby, Donald Trump, has banned multiple
news organizations from the White House, CNN, MSN Now, and Politico reporters. They were all
denied access to the White House following his ban. They are suing him, as they should.
And I actually can't believe it, but major TV networks actually decided to stand with CNN
and declined to replace its White House pool crew. Including Fox News. I couldn't believe it. So
together, because this should be everyone's goal. I'm sorry. Even the Fox News propaganda machine
should be like, free speech includes having these outlets hold our administration accountable and be
at the White House. I don't trust them, but who can you trust these days? But everyone really
has come together on this. Of course. This is insane. I feel like it's just like,
what else is there to say about this? It's horrifying. It should be totally illegal.
I can't believe that the Supreme Court didn't strike this down in an hour. How are we,
days into this, this is still happening. You can't deny press access. And there is no,
you know, there's freedom of the press. There's no precedent that says like, precedent,
whatever, don't worry about it. That says that you must allow press access to the White House,
I guess, if you want to get into semantics. But this feels wholly unconstitutional and sick and
crazy. And you know, what people voted for. So. Okay. So then at a White House event,
yesterday, as we record, Trump is out there talking about a helipad, I believe, whatever.
There's no press.
So there's no mics. So he's screaming into the abyss. These videos right now, I can't,
they're my porn category. I can't stop watching them. So he's just screaming and no audio is
getting picked up. So even news outlets trying to air it are like, we can't hear him. He's just
yelling into the void. Like I'm obsessed with him not understanding how this works. If there's no
mics, there's no sound. It's unbelievable. It was a good day. It was a good day yesterday after all
of this, which is just so obviously.
Devastating, but not surprising. And so sad for our country and our democracy to see that,
to see this fucking idiot yelling into the abyss. No audio inaudible mics are off.
Did you see the clips of him and Mom Donnie yesterday? And Mom Donnie is standing there
just disassociating. I was on screen together and I was like pissed. I was like, I cannot believe
that he's going to stand there. He's strategic. He knows what he's doing. But he literally just
stood there.
He just wasn't even alive.
Like strongest man alive while Trump just ranted and rambled.
So that's happening. And this is a developing story, but we like to see it. These news
organizations should stand together when it comes to this of all things. And just on this note,
James Tallarico. So this is going to be the one of the most watched Senate races of the midterms.
He is running against Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, who has faced 10 to 20 years of
corruption, impeachment.
Criminal indictments. Ken Paxton is a total criminal. He has 15 homes. Real man of the people.
His own staff reported him to the FBI. Like his rap sheet is insane. So James Tallarico,
he might be my new crush. I got to say that. I don't know. He's got this sexy voice and this
like calming demeanor. He was going on Kimmel and the FCC basically threatened them that they
couldn't air it. And it has to do with like equal time for both parties. But this is all,
this wouldn't have happened outside of a Trump presidency. And they're not,
having Ken Paxton on Kimmel, he wouldn't go on in the first place. Also late night TV shows have
usually been excluded out of this equal time. Bottom line, if you want to get into it, you can
read up yourself. But because of FCC threats, the James Tallarico interview wasn't aired on
Kimmel. So they put it on YouTube. It's currently at 13 million views and it's incredible. There's
no reason for it to be banned other than, like this isn't controversial. I mean, he's talking
about the corruption, the theft of his opponent, people in Texas being sick and tired of being
taken advantage of.
He talks about the fallacy, the welfare queen, Elon Musk. And what would Jesus do?
You can't love Jesus and hate your neighbor. So he is a Christian man and he really has become
a popular political force in Texas. And I'm just really rooting for him. So we will be watching
that one really closely. And it's a grassroots movement. It's very Mamdani coded. And I'm just
excited to see it. But it's just crazy. You know, I told you, like pull up this interview and just
watch the first three minutes where they talk about why this couldn't air on Kimmel. And it's
unbelievable.
It's unbelievable. So anyway, go James, go James, go.
We're going to take you guys through your headlines and then we're going to send you
off into your weekend. Lena Dunham welcomed her first baby with her husband. She wrote a lot
about how she has a hysterectomy. And she wrote a lot in her book about how she couldn't conceive.
And she talks about wanting to be a mother. And then she had a hysterectomy and wasn't sure if
she would ever be able to be a parent. She welcomed her first baby with her husband via
surrogate. So congrats to her. Congrats, Lena. On to the next Machine Gun Kelly and Dakota Johnson.
Might be a thing. How do you feel? You're a huge MGK stan. He's my number one Spotify. But is he
like a celeb crush? I think so. But I'm sort of jealous. I'm very jealous. I'm sexually attracted
to him. I don't think he'd be a fun hang. OK, shots fired. I don't I just can't imagine him
and I would like so much fun together. I just I'm not I don't know. I don't want to like suck
each other's blood and stuff. Yeah, it's kind of like that. Yeah. Dakota Johnson is everywhere.
And I was like, why is she she's literally on the cover of everything. She's every like magazine that
was Verity comes out on October. So next week, Verity next Friday. I'm so excited. I'm so sad.
I can't go with you. I'm like devastated. I am. I am so, so sad. Shashank wants to go for Anne
Hathaway and Anne Hathaway only. And, you know, this is number one. So that will be our third
Anne Hathaway movie that I've seen with him this year. I've seen an Anne Hathaway movie. How have
I been to the three movies with my husband in a year all with Anne Hathaway? That's kind of wild.
Not there anymore. I know. But Devil Wears Prada to Odyssey and then this. But we cannot fucking
wait. I'm just so excited. It looks so scary. It's a Colleen Hoover book. It's the second book I ever
read. OK. And lastly, Channing Tatum does not have a burner account. Wink, wink. I'm obsessed
with this story. So people discovered this burner account. None of your business business. None of
Channing Tatum follows this burner. Yes. Also, it the burner account was trolled.
His exes and hyping him insane. So people took this and ran with it. And he has since come out
and posted a public statement on his story that was like, yo, this isn't me. Fucking hilarious.
You guys thought it was. I have better stuff to do with my time. Now we know it is you. Do you?
Do you have better stuff to do with your time? It's not your account. You accidentally followed
it. OK. We know you did it. But if it was a woman, she would have never done this by accident. But
excuse is so funny. What's Channing Tatum doing? Right. So it's crazy, though, you guys,
because he's like trolling like what Zoe Kravitz and like her new man and like Jenna Dewan's new
man. Like it's all of the things that you would do. But OK, I just want to say I want to be I
want to be real with you. OK. Deep down in my heart of hearts, I guess it's not him,
but he knows what that account is up to and he supports it. So if there was an account
that all they were doing was hyping me and trolling my exes, I might follow it,
too. And that's all I have to say. Like either way, if it's not him, he's on board with it.
And he didn't say he wasn't. So let us know what you guys think in the comments. I'm good
with either theory, but like he supports none of your business. Yes. Business. At least like
because like when you go to none of your business and that you see that like he's in the follows
like you also might follow. He follows a lot of people, by the way. Not us. I know. I think we
could work on it. He follows like Hannah and Nikki and Mary Beth. And he follows a lot of female
comedians is what I noticed. I liked 8000 people. Oh, my God. It's not that hard to get a follow.
Just be tossing out follows. Do you think that that's that's misdirection? Do you think that
he followed 8000 people so that people would notice? He might be following other burner
accounts. I'm assuming he saw a comment that he liked of none of your business on like
Harry Styles or Zoe or Jenna. I'm sure he saw that and he liked it and followed them because
yeah, he does be given out follows like that's a fire roast. But all I have to say is Jenna
of Tatum's trolling with the burner accounts of women.
stay winning. Amen. All right. Well, that is your snack for the week, guys.
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Mike questions the appropriateness of wearing childlike pajamas in public, highlighting a personal conflict between comfort and perceived professionalism.
A major controversy involves FBI Director Kash Patel seeking to remove a ban on bestiality in FBI hiring, sparking outrage over the lack of evidence and victim rights discussion.
The debate over bestiality in hiring leads to broader criticism of societal norms, including calls to address pedophilia, necrophilia, and other taboo topics.
Fat Bear Week in Alaska and Canada is presented as a lighthearted, public-voted event where bear fat and individual stories are celebrated, emphasizing animal survival.
Taylor Swift’s recent public statements and chaotic behavior on *Secret Lives of Mormon Wives* have sparked debate over mental health, drama, and her role in the show’s success.
A heated online debate emerges over whether job interviewees should bring iced coffee, with critics arguing it signals unprofessionalism and casualness.
The Ed Sheeran censorship controversy and band walkout are cited as a case of artistic accountability, with criticism of Ed Sheeran’s teleprompter use and lack of authenticity.
Trump’s ban on press access and absence of audio during White House events is condemned as a violation of free speech and democratic norms.
Summary:
The episode combines personal, political, and cultural commentary through a mix of humor and sharp critique. Mike reflects on wearing childlike pajamas, questioning the balance between comfort and public appropriateness. A central political issue centers on FBI Director Kash Patel’s attempt to remove a ban on bestiality, which is condemned as a lack of empathy and evidence, sparking broader criticism of how society handles taboo topics like pedophilia or necrophilia.
The segment on Fat Bear Week offers a joyful, community-driven celebration of bears, where public votes determine the fattest and most resilient animal. Taylor Swift’s recent public statements and chaotic behavior on *Secret Lives of Mormon Wives* are dissected as evidence of personal mental health struggles and toxic drama, raising concerns about her influence and the show’s content. A heated debate over whether job interviewees should bring iced coffee highlights tensions between professionalism and personal comfort, with both sides arguing over workplace norms.
The Ed Sheeran controversy is analyzed as a case of artistic and political accountability, with criticism of his teleprompter use and lack of authenticity. Finally, the episode condemns President Trump’s ban of press access and his refusal to allow media coverage, calling it a clear violation of free speech and democratic principles. Throughout, the show blends personal anecdotes with critical commentary on culture, power, and accountability.
FAQs
The debate centers on whether bringing iced coffee signals casualness or a lack of professionalism. Critics argue it shows the interviewee is treating the interview as a stop on a daily errand, while others believe it's a personal preference that doesn't reflect professionalism.
Ed Sheeran's band and openers quit the tour in solidarity with Macklemore over censorship concerns. He later issued a public apology, which drew criticism for reading from a teleprompter and being perceived as insincere or self-centered, especially given the sensitive nature of the topic.
Fat Bear Week is a public voting event in Alaska and Canada where bear enthusiasts vote for the fattest bear in a tournament. Bears are judged based on photos taken in early and late summer, and the winner is crowned based on popularity and health indicators.
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The debate over whether bestiality should disqualify FBI applicants highlights concerns about victim trafficking and government accountability. Critics argue the issue is being used to mask larger systemic failures, especially regarding trafficking and abuse.
Critics say Trump's ban on CNN, MSN Now, and Politico reporters violates press freedom and undermines democratic accountability. The lack of press access and audio during events is seen as a direct attack on transparency and free speech.
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