The Snack: Dana White, Girls Who Can Fight, and Love is Blind Reunion

this week on the snack dana white the love is blind reunion and terrible men get what they deserve this is the dear media production enjoy hello hello how are you feeling i feel really stressed out but i feel good i feel like she's gonna get it up for this she's just was melting down moments before i did cry in front of the producer in her um private school uniform my primark sweater i never knew about primark you've been you put it on the map for me i never heard of primark before you're in your budget era um bobby got a deal from there and he's like do you want to come shopping with me we have a big amount of money to spend i was like great that's what you guys were to harry styles right yes and i got like i'm not kidding we split four hundred dollars we got like 40 things okay i can't believe how much stuff we got what a haul yeah so if you guys are interested in that i'll send it to you in the sweater that i'm wearing primark well if you guys are interested in my shirt it's pajamas oh what is this is the negative pajama set uh-huh i just i didn't run out of clothes you guys i just like this as a shirt you don't really wear sexy pajamas at home you wear them out to work you just wear sleepy pajamas at home like the big sleepy shirts i've worn this on a date night i really like this as a top yeah it's a great top so this is everybody loves these negative whipped pajamas also speaking of budget fashion these are the walmart jeans really why am i wearing pajama top and walmart jeans am i about to go fight somebody you got your hoops in two i got my hoops in what is the other day we were talking about fighting somebody and i was like put put on your cookie monster pajamas and let's go do you think like wait i didn't get that reference okay it's just a meme let me know if you guys have seen this i mean i feel there's a few memes about girls who can fight one you do your makeup sitting on the floor okay and two like if you see a girl in cookie monster pajamas she can fight like that i don't know it's just is it cookie i don't know about this i think i got that right like someone who's wearing like a cookie monster those people are gonna fuck you up yeah so now i'm realizing neither of you guys probably got my joke no i didn't get it but i was like there's other stuff other people you know i'm not good on group chats i just basically i let everybody else take care of it um do you do your makeup on the floor i've done it i would do it on the floor before i sat at like a vanity you know like i'm a standing in the bathroom girl yeah i'm a standing in the bathroom or i you know i post photos myself i get in the sink yeah if i can't get close enough to the mirror if the counter is too wide i will sit on the counter we've sat on the counter before but i do my makeup standing at the bathroom mirror but i would sit on the floor in front of a mirror before i sat i get a vanity or something like i don't know that's like boomer energy i have a vanity nobody needs a vanity i've had them i have my house and i had my apartment now i've never sat in that chair not once in my life well i need a sink you know me i do my makeup with my towel so i need a sink a hand towel and you can't get that on the floor so just know that i can fight but i need to sink know that i cannot fight i don't know if i can fight i actually don't know i'm pretty i can be really mean in a fight verbally verbally yes also verbally yes but i don't know about like john from love is blind you or do you bite people viping rebrand of verbal abuse we'll talk about it all right let's think our partners this whole episode is just about terrible men okay thank you to the secret lives of mormon wives orange county now streaming on hulu and hulu and disney plus for bundle subscribers terms apply and quints get free shipping and 365 day returns on your next order at quints.com slash gge and app exclusive offers when you download the app and thank you to laundry sauce get 20 off at laundry sauce.com with code gge and no cd if you're struggling with ocd book a free 15 minute call at no cd.com and we are going to kick it off with a terrible men report i know you guys are thinking there's so many to choose from this whole episode i know a justice is served report so fresh out of the gate russell brand was sentenced to 10 and a half years love the half i didn't know that they did that after being found guilty of rape and sexual assault in a london trial and it is so encouraging to see justice like this can the uk do ours next no seriously they're actually incriminating terrible people can we send them the epstein files and have them have at it they did do something with prince prince andrew yeah andrew like they're out here yes taking care of business when i told you about this you asked was it here or in london i had like a brain like but you just thought like that doesn't happen in america we don't send men to prison for this type of stuff exactly i haven't kept up with this too too much so i didn't know if he did all this in london or if he did some of this here like this is not so much on my radar i keep more track of like our you know rapists and assaulters well there's so many of them there's so many you can't really keep up have you seen the content about get him to the greek oh because diddy's in that the movie poster is diddy russell brand and jonah hill really this cast aged terribly and then the whole cast there's some people who have kind of since been sort of canceled no other real rapists but like i don't know i think obviously jonah hill is hasn't done anything that i know but i think people are like this is a little soft to investigate jonah hill just for the hell of it he was kind of mean to me once at mission chinese the day after i got engaged he was he was nice to me when i saw him in atlanta ping pong so they the experiences cancel each other out yeah well it's nice to see um justice be served to somebody whether even even though it can't be done here russell brand is like even seeing him i just you just can feel it you just know so it's so dark the energy is so dark and uh tesla is uh winding down cyber truck production not so cool on a tesla truck anymore is it thank fucking god it is so embarrassing to have that truck it's really embarrassing now really is it's such an eyesore they're always taking up two parking spots i will say though the only good thing is that it's it's a clear red flag it's it's a maga hat of a vehicle totally you know it's not really up for debate like you want to date with a guy he's got the cyber truck you may as well wear a maga hat i mean zach from mormon wives i mean it's like obviously he has the tesla truck tesla was so innovative it still is i will give them that that and people that drive them i understand it 100 the cyber truck came after elon musk went over to the dark side you know like there is no debate if you decided to get that truck and it is the ultimate like compensation for a small dick type of vehicle obviously we don't feel this way about people that drive teslas but the specifically the cyber it was this moment in time it's a statement it's a real statement you know yeah they failed to take over the uh pickup truck market and so they're winding it down they want to put their money elsewhere i've always like get a real fucking truck it's so embarrassing like my brother is a truck my dad is a truck like i get it when you you need a truck you need a truck my brother's a big truck it was hot i mean but then he gets out of it you're like oh there's that's the size of vehicle that man needs to be in a truck that size and he needs to haul stuff around and the whole thing but it's like remember when it came out they did all these tests like this cyber truck versus the chevy silverado and it like couldn't even compete so you just want to drive the spaceship yeah exactly well it doesn't even have a truck bed in the back really right it's a full truck but like how do you get into the truck i don't understand it but it has a full truck bed in there i don't know you know what i want to move on from it all right well we like to see i will say that tesla self-driving is nice yeah i know to be in it you're like oh around la that's great you're like yeah it's gonna take an hour to get there but i don't have to worry about driving i'll be texting yeah i'm in the back seat i'm watching more of my wives are you required to be the front seat of a tesla yeah you are and you're supposed to be looking at the road why i just be like that just because in case of emergency i don't know okay well let's move on to the midterms the blue tsunami blue typhoon i was calling it which i just think sounds cutesy and last week we discussed voting and how we were feeling and the vibes were high we were really optimistic but we could never have anticipated what happened and we did a reel if you guys want to go to our instagram it's on our tiktok as well girls got a podcast which was six ish minutes of our immediate reactions we recorded that the day after so if you missed that check that out people really wanted to know how we felt so we fired that up and put that on social media since we'd already recorded the snack yeah i mean we're still feeling it as we record we will been in michigan last night oh yeah for reina's show and the vibes are high it's just been an amazing week on the internet in real life i was walking home the other night on wednesday and i heard this guy see another guy hey man let's go get a drink and the other and he said why and he said to celebrate being a democrat oh and it's just like i know they're a little old for me but uh we took the largest majority in history of congress 258 seats i mean donald trump united this country in a way that we have never seen before it's been so positive i've just i've loved all the thirst traps of politicians it's the most women in as governors in congress people of different obviously races religions we just have so much diversity now first native american governor woman of new mexico oh yeah and we mentioned the governor of texas latina woman and keisha lance bottoms in georgia and just like the women of it all has just been astounding and so inspirational i feel like this this collective feeling we have is hope like but a hope that we haven't felt in a in a while but i think about this lie i think about hope a lot maga is over that's not us being hopeful that's true it's just all the signs are there trump is a lame duck he's on his last leg he is fighting every day he's crashing out and we can take our country back to a place of decency and democracy but i just want to say like i'm gonna get emotional that like hope never went away and i feel like this was the biggest demonstration of that and this whole year i saw this thing that said the theme of the year was hope core and like it started the year with bad bunny's halftime performance and love and different cultures coming together and then it it was the World Cup. And there, this feeling during the World Cup was like, we could all get along, like despite our differences, despite our skin color, where we come from, how we live our lives, even the Knicks. I mean, there was just this collective joy surrounding the Knicks, even though that was, you know, based in New York. And just so many points this year were about that, the Artemis II mission, you know, the space travel of it all. And I just want to say that even in the darkest times of the last two years or 10 years, where it just felt like, is this it? Like, is this the end? Does my voice matter? If you've even voted, if you just voted, if you ever posted something, if you ever talked to a friend or family member about their politics, if you ever did literally anything, that means you just never lost hope. And it really goes to show that what we do matter. And I just never want to lose that. Who knows what the future holds. But the point is, I think it's important to show that we do matter. The point of the other side and what has happened with Trump and this administration is to make us give up and give up hope and throw our hands up and say, it doesn't matter. And it's over for us. And why even bother? But we didn't. And look where this got us. I love what you said. I was thinking about when I picked you up two years ago in January, the day he took the presidency, I picked you up in the car. We were driving to Dear Media to do a recording. And I was crying in the car on the way to recording. And everybody was on stage with him at the inauguration. It was Amazon. It was Instagram. It was Apple and Google. And I remember like crying in the car with you. I was like, I can't spend every day feeling like this. I can't shop in any of these companies anymore. I can't support any of these. All these people I thought were like on our side, all these male comedians that are about to make all these about faces. I felt so hopeless. I was so sad. And I wish I could go back and tell us that in that car, like what a good feeling this is. And truly that like people rose up and said, no. Yeah. So I'm just, I'm happy to see it. Yeah. And it felt hopeless at times. I mean, when Renee Good and Alex Petty were shot and killed, I like couldn't handle it. Oh my God. Actually people putting the I vote stickers on his grave. I like, I can't like go back to that place. Like I was just like, I, I, all I've said for the past two years, especially obviously actually, yeah, I've said it for the past two years is I just want to survive this. I truly, and I mean it from the depths of my soul. I want me and you and my family and my husband and like everybody just to get through this. Cause I know it was going to be so much better. And brighter on the other side. And we're going to be able to take this country back, but it was like, we just didn't know. Cause we didn't expect this the first time, the second time. And so just to see the response and the rebuke of this has just been so, so incredible and so inspiring. And I just, you know, I can't wait to see how this all shakes out. I mean, it's been amazing. Thank you all for voting and supporting us. And we know you guys like to listen to the stuff on the show and we're glad we're able to put this out here, you know, and it's just been so hopeful and so inspiring. And we're so excited to see you guys. And I still feel like I'm processing and it's still playing out. So the Dana White of it all, if you guys don't know, Dana White is what president of the UFC founder. Who fucking cares? Mr. Clean, evil Mr. Clean. And what appears to have happened is someone suggested a woman named Dana White who works in the actual government to be press secretary. And Trump was like, I know who that is. And so then it comes out that Dana White from the UFC was going to be press secretary. Exactly how this played out. But that's what appeared. All of a sudden, it was like Trump wants Dana White to be press secretary. He heard a rumbling of the name Dana White and he recognized the name in his in his dementia riddled brain and was like, that's great. Great idea. If Nicki Minaj can't do it, Dana will do it. So then this comes to light. Everybody's making fun of him. This is happening on the sixth anniversary of Four Seasons Total Landscaping. On your special day. You guys, how could this have happened on the same day? Every year on Four Seasons Total Landscaping, I get so many DMs. So my DMs were overflowing. They were like, Ashley, Dana White, Dana White, Dana White. I get out of the movie. You can see everything. I'm like, what is happening? I can't process all this at the same time. We are not worthy. And so then so Trump wouldn't look stupid, I guess, which is crazy because he looks stupid every day at the most extreme level. They brought in Dana White to play press secretary for the day. So Dana White goes to the press briefing and they do a little hee hee about all this. And then he says, no, I don't want the job. To what? Like cover, cover up this blunder. We all know. Can you believe this? What a waste of time and resources. But they were like, we got to get him down here. We got to play Kate Trump. He's not going to remember this. We have to let everybody think this was a little joke. We are so fucking embarrassing. But now I can enjoy it. Exactly. They're saying that they're going to let Katie Zachariah re-audition. Great. Okay. I have a and I should know the answer to this. In the meantime, while we don't, do we have a press secretary? Okay. Great question. Like what happens every day? You clearly don't need one every day, obviously. Are we sure? Like other jobs, you probably, like, I think we'd be really vulnerable if we didn't have a secretary of defense, even though the secretary of defense is the worst. He's making us vulnerable. I'm just, in a normal world. Okay. Someone isn't in that position and it's, we are vulnerable as a nation, but I don't think it's like that about the press secretary. But I do, you have to speak to the press. But I'm like, do you? I think so. I think seven days a week, it's like, talk to the press. Like, who's going to be mean to Caitlin Collins? You know, Trump's just like, got to get somebody in there. I have just, God, Caitlin Collins, such a queen. I love her so much. She posted asking about Pete Hegseth. And then Trump was like, she posted this on her Instagram. So you guys can go see it. You know, I'm in those comments. And Trump was like, well, Thomas Massey's a loser. So Thomas Massey is who brought articles of impeachment against Pete Hegseth. He was like, Thomas Massey's a loser. Just like you're a loser. Just like your ratings are a loser. Your ratings are a loser. I was in the comments. I said, it's only a matter of time before he says your mom. We have a your mom is a loser coming out of his mouth. I can feel it. Does he just go, he does press secretary in the interim? He just goes and says that? Is that what he's doing? I hope so. Every day it's a new person. It's Dana White. Then the Daily Show. Then it's Logan Paul. And then it's Jake Paul. I would kind of love that if it was like the Daily Show and there was rotating hosts every single week. Guest ones. Like, could we do it one week? Like, I would love that. I wish we could come up with like a rotation. We'd be like, Kalen, hey, girly. Hey, baby. It's so funny, though, when he is saying offensive stuff to Kalen Collins. It doesn't, she's not even clocking it. She's just like, you're so beneath me. This is not even like worth my time. And now he's mad at Fox News, too. He's just mad at everybody. She's just like unflappable. We want to have her on the podcast. But I just, she's not even like, it's going in one ear out the other. Like, I'm acknowledging it. It's not worth it. 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We love this show. We have watched every single episode since it aired in 2020. 13, 14 seasons of it all, UK too. And this reunion was absolute trash. This was a humiliation ritual for women. I'm so mad, Reina. Like, we watched it together and automatically, it was different than any other reunion because no couples are together. So the vibe was low. And I feel like it was extra low on both sides because of Sarah and John and the trauma and the drama and they're sitting there with their friends who have been through all this with them. So that permeated the group. But what the show decided to do was to show a montage of the guy's friendship, Blake. Why are we seeing these men's camera rolls set to music? A segment about their stupid group chat and then Cam's dad jokes throughout. And then the audience had to clap for Rob. And they didn't do any of that for the women. What they did was let Mikayla fall on her face and they didn't edit it out of the show. They could have done all the same stuff for the men that they did for the women. Instead, they wanted to highlight their friendship. They wanted to give them this redemption arc. They wanted to humanize them in such a way that they made montages, amateur montages we've never seen before. Like, even, like I'm saying, like the Cam dad joke thing, we didn't need it. Like, everything was centered around making these guys, these guys look good. Nick demanding the audience clap for Rob and none of that for the women. If they would have done something for the women, it would have felt balanced. Show the women's friendship. Show their love and support for each other. Why doesn't Erica get a montage of her life without Blake and her dogs and her house and her cars? What was that? What the fuck was that? And there was other things too, but like that specifically were editing choices that they made. How much do you guys hate women? Like, I'm so furious. That, I totally agree with everything you said. It was some of, this season is some of the worst displays of male behavior I've ever seen on television for a show whose audience is primarily women. Yes. And they spent the entire reunion propping these men up. I'm mad about it. Right now, I'm furious. When Nick paused and made the whole audience clap for Rob, Blake, they show a montage of Blake, how great his life is. And then as soon as it's over, look at Erica and say, how does that make you feel? What? Every one of those women looked beaten down, rightfully so. All of these men, I mean, the behavior on this, this season was so disgusting and terrible. And why am I watching you all prop these people up? What is happening here? Yes, because the women all sat there looking very upset. I mean, nothing worked out for anybody. But the men also did. Like, John was sitting there beaten down. No one was smiling. No one was laughing. The vibe was low on both sides. But what they did for the guys to lighten it up. So you were left feeling like, these guys are friends. They have a group chat. They're going to be fine. Let's clap for them going to therapy. And the women just have to sit there. I mean, they gave them a little musical performance at the end, which was like, just so awkward. And even though I love the song, the song's incredible. I love the song, but all of these women are in a puddle of tears. Sarah is melting down. And then they have Ash sitting on the couch with them being like, hee, hee, hee. But they could have done a montage of the women. They could have asked them if they had a group chat. Like, they are friends. Like, you got a few moments where they were like, but I FaceTimed. And they are still all talking. Like, they have a friendship too. Maybe it's not as close as this toxic group chat the guys have. But like, they chose not to highlight it at all. They chose not to show anyone's life going well at all. I don't understand the decision. It was just like, truly, like you said, a humiliation ritual. And Mikayla, I don't think she should be embarrassed. I think it was like a comedic moment that actually like, was like, okay, everyone's like crying. I just, they put a lot of editing work into all this other stuff. And they chose to leave that in. And if I ever find out that she asked for it to come out and then. And they didn't, but they let all that other shit fly. I will never watch the show again. Like, I just think she's funny. And if I felt like that, I would be like, you better keep that in. Clip it. This is so funny to me. She posted a lot about it. I don't know if you saw it. Like, her story, her brother was like, it's a joke now. But also, you know, that's just what we do if we feel embarrassed too. Someone that has a good sense of humor about themselves is going to make a joke. I really want to know. I want to know if she was like, can you guys please take that out? Like, that was a really embarrassing moment for me. Like, I'm very curious because she has made light of it. And I would want it in. Like, I want my Jennifer Lawrence moment, you know. But if they really decided to do what they did and then at the end have this woman fall like that, I'm just so mad. Like, I don't want to watch this show anymore. I hope they're fucking listening. I know. And I don't do this a lot. We have a relationship with them. We get the screeners. Like, this could jeopardize all that. The next season is Philly. I want to keep watching this. And I'm not going to say I'm going to stop because I don't know. But I'm going to I'm furious. Rob, they also failed to press him on what I think is the worst thing. One of the worst things that's happened, probably actually the worst thing that happened the entire season was that his friend was attacking Michaela like that. Just nothing. And Rob and John played this, both of them, played this reunion the best anybody could. They were forthcoming. They did not defend themselves. They apologized. They looked distraught. Rob's like, I'm in therapy. John's like, Dad, don't defend me. I mean, the whole front row did a great job of making themselves look good. They didn't need any more help. Yes. They were looking even more sympathetic, to be honest. Yes. Like, why'd they do all that? But the second montage, I was like, I can't believe what I'm watching. And then it was all just, I mean, with one exception, just terrible male behavior. The beekeeper, what the fuck? Okay, can I ask you a question? Why do they call him that? Did I miss that part? He's a beekeeper. That's his job. It was on the screen. What do you think? That's like his actual job. Also, like, Plotwitch was that guy. It was also terrible. That's what I'm saying. He, we liked him at the mixer He was really unsettling. I don't know what the fuck that was about. The way he was speaking. We got together. I fell in love with you. And then I ended it. Like, again, it felt like every chance to embarrass a woman was taken. Yes. One of the craziest things we've seen on any reunion was John's dad defending it. If you guys don't watch, John was caught texting an escort. And they're very kind of cagey about what the texts were. I'm assuming he was telling her what he wanted her to do. She sent him an invoice and he couldn't pay for it or something. And he went to bed. Like, that's probably what happened. She had another client that night. Honestly, I don't think that's nearly as bad as what she very nicely termed viping. I think he was verbally abusive to her. I think he called her stupid. I think the way he spoke to that customer service rep was exactly how he speaks to her on a day-to-day basis. Her family still stuck up for him and said nice things about him. I don't know what their relationship's like off camera, but it sounds like he was terrible to her. I mean, I'm watching a woman who was such a bright light in the beginning of the season, just the shell of a person. I know. I know. And, you know, I've seen such mixed things on her. Well, she had a lot of the information about what kind of person he was. Yeah, it's really disappointing she married him, especially hearing that she had these reservations and she thought he would cheat on her and that's how this would end. Like, this is stuff she has to deal with on her own on why she felt the need to save this man who had these views, who didn't believe in modern medicine, who lived in filth, you know, who yells at customer service reps, you know, who has these values. And you also read Yeah, like, he's a problem and she shouldn't have married him. And, you know, there's just in the context of politics, like, that type of thing is problematic. It's a white woman that's like, I'm going to cancel out my man's vote energy. Like, that's what a lot of people say about her, but I don't know. I don't know why she felt the need. I do think she was getting through to him, but she should have never married this man and it doesn't take away from her being seemingly such a great person and, of course, we're on her side. But her saying that he calls her dumb, it is so much worse. It's so much worse than that. Dumb sent a chill down my spine, by the way. That, we've seen it happen before. Like, a man that calls his female partner, like, dumb or stupid or even, it makes me sick to my stomach. And it's like, you know it's so much worse than that. And so, yes, obviously, the sex worker was just the straw that broke the camel's back that gave her an out to leave. It was everything before that. She completely just was verbally, emotionally abusing her, sucked the life out of her, and that was the thing that was able to get her to leave. And it was crazy that he was like, we had a great year of marriage and she's like, no, we fucking did it. And then, as the grand finale, you had to watch John's dad defend him and that also piece of garbage Scott sit next to him and also defend it, yelling, John is a good man. He brought his Bible to breakfast. The Bible is a performance of morality. It is not morality. Praying for somebody is just performative. That has nothing to do with how you treat people day to day. It was one of the craziest ways I've ever heard anybody justify someone else's behavior. And John's dad yelling, he's a good man. Boys will be boys. I mean, everybody online is like, this is how you made the Cornell. This is how we justify men's behaviors. this woman cry. She's in a puddle. She's distraught. Her life is ruined temporarily. That's fine. But John's a good man and boys will be boys. That was like Brock Turner's dad. Like that was like an abuser enabler. He has a bright future. He's a nice man. Leave him alone. This is what men do. They get drunk and make mistakes. Why aren't you guys backing him up? Totally insane. I get that it's your son, but let your son lead. He's up there owning what he did. You can say, I hate to see my child up here, but I obviously am disappointed and I'm done. And that's all I have to say about it. Like that rant was scary. This is an unsafe show for women now. And Scott, let me say this with my full chest. Any man who brings a Bible to breakfast is texting sex workers. A hundred percent. You can be a Christian. You can be James Tallarico. You can be a real Christian, but performative Bible bullshit. I'm going to bless everyone. You're doing something. It's performative for a reason. These are the worst people. And Scott, Raina, I'm so furious. So this disgusting guy, Scott, who I'd forgotten about was on the show. He said problematic stuff in the pods. He has a photo of himself protesting outside of a planned parenthood in 2020 pinned on his profile and love is blind cast him. I feel like that was the nail in the coffin for me. How dare you? You can put a man on a show that has conservative values, I guess, first of all, in Massachusetts, fuck all the way off. Just always a blue state. I know there's conservative people in Boston and Massachusetts, but like to put him on this show, like he is actively protesting against women's rights and women's bodily autonomy. And you cast him on a show to meet women anonymously, like, like to meet women behind a wall, not knowing these things. You put women in danger with a man like that on the show. And you knew like this wasn't going to stir up some fun drama. This was somebody who was extremely problematic. His bio even said, I'm looking for a woman with conservative values who is unconfrontational and sweet and kind. And he said really problematic stuff to Sarah on the show. And she placated it and sidestepped all the stuff that he said. And yes, you knowingly casted this person who is anti women's rights to their own body. And someone actually said yes to his proposal. Yes. But that's like irrelevant. I just wanted to bring it up. But it's just like to cast him is so gross. A man that spends his time protesting outside a woman's health care clinic. What are you guys doing? What are you guys? Shut your mouth, boy. That man says the N word hard are daily. That was that's in a chilled on my spine. And I'm a white person like that was terrifying. You don't hear someone say boy like that, like really much any much anymore. All the outside the South. I mean, I've heard it. I've heard it. I've spent a lot of time in the South. And it's so racist. Like it was so terrible. And I'm like, this is so crazy what they've chosen to air on this show. I know we just love a show so much. It's a really. Disappointing. And I just I think in this time in history, this is not what women need. I think we've gone through enough in the last couple of years with all these people that were propping up and now they're choosing to prop up this behavior. And I mean, good for all those women who are sitting there calmly with dignity and grace and kindness. It couldn't have been me. Couldn't have been me. What happened here? Who's running the show? And people want to blame Nick and Vanessa. I mean, yeah, sure. That's fine. But they don't run the show like they don't edit it, write the script, produce it. I don't think really. They're just kind of the hosts like they can push back. Nick didn't have to ask the audience to clap. For Rob. And I have really come to like them in recent years because we used to be like, they fucking suck. Get him out of here. And then I'm like, yeah, they're like our family. Now we've been around with them for six years. Let him cook. I was like the UK host so much more. But I don't understand what's going on here. What kind of manosphere men are running this shit? Because it was so blatant. Like, do you ever watch a show and something might feel off to you, but you don't really know for sure until you go on the Internet later and see what people are saying this in the moment you and I were so mad. I couldn't believe it. What the fuck is this so many times? Why are they propping up these ideals and these people? I mean, even just airing that dad saying that kind of stuff. And then he's like, why aren't any of the men sticking up for why aren't any of the women screaming at you? Oh, sorry. When I bring up Maury. So Maury was the MVP. And listen, maybe Maury should be there mic'd up. Just let him cook at every reunion. So he really held these guys feet to the fire. I'm not saying he's a hero. I don't know him. I've heard he's problematic, too. But what he did on the reunion, was yell back at racist, misogynist Scott and really be like, what the fuck is happening here? And I really appreciated it. Obviously, people are like, you know, I don't want to praise him too much. We don't know enough about him. He's still part of that man group also. Yes, he's part of the group chat. But at least he propped up the women and pushed back when Scott and John's dad were fucking standing yelling like they were at a Klan rally. Yelling at John, also your piece of shit. John's like in a puddle of tears. You just you still did this. I mean, you took a bunch of steps to just do these things. I don't feel bad for you. I don't feel bad for you that you're sitting there and you feel sad when you continuously disrespect this woman. And you just topped it off by trying to hire a prostitute, which like go off if you're not married or in a relationship. Yeah, of course. If you do whatever you want with your money and your time. But of course, he's like so distraught. And I don't have any sympathy for him. He's a good man. No, disgusting. It's so crazy because you can really love your kid, want the best for them, be heartbroken to see them up there dealing with something like that and still be like, I'm so disappointed. Where did I go wrong as a parent? That's what's so sad. And that is what your first thought should be is where did you learn? How did this happen? Because all I saw from that guy, what is that how you treat your wife? Yeah. What if Sarah did this? What if Sarah was trying to pay for sex? And meanwhile, Sarah's family, we still care about John. He was part of our family. We wish the best for him. Also crazy. If somebody I was dating called me dumb, imagine. Dead to everybody I knew. I know. And we never mentioned this on the podcast, but what he said, like women over 30 who are single or a problematic. And she still fucking married him. Man, it pisses me off. But I mean, again, like I think she is a good person that I fell for him somehow and thought she could change him. And I mean, a lot of people have been there. Brings her own trauma into the relationship. So, yeah. I don't know. I hope they make better decisions next season. I can't handle them doing Philly like this. I just don't even know. Like, I've been thinking about this. Like, I feel like I could very easily be done with the show. I'm that mad. But like, I don't want to, you know, it's such a part of our show and I don't want to not be in on it when everybody starts talking about it. And so I just hope they take the note. Well, I'm hoping it will be like the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives effect because the third season reunion where, first of all, season three, they just let all the husbands be part of the and then they were all on the stage for the reunion. They made them all leave so Dakota could have the stage. And the pushback, the blowback was so bad. I mean, it was like the midterm elections. And season four, none of those guys got any screen time. So I'm hoping, I'm hoping we change our minds here. Yeah. I hope they hear this. We know cast members listen to the show. We saw someone out last week that heard what we said. It was Matt and Raina from a few seasons back. And I don't care. I don't care. You'll never get their screeners again. Netflix, do better. Right. Let's just talk about our remaining partners. And then we will get into your headlines. So we are talking about no CD today. So for millions of people, they don't just have general anxiety. They have OCD and most of them have no idea. It is not just the organizing stereotype. Real OCD is persistent, unwanted, intrusive thoughts that feel totally out of character along with mental or physical behaviors. You feel driven to get relief even when it never actually comes. These thoughts can feel very real, which is what makes them so upsetting. 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Like, just have less kids when your marriage sucks. It's not fair to the kids. Like, what's going to happen here? I guess they have plenty of money. I guess. They'll figure it out. But I just feel sad because of that. If it wasn't for all these kids, I'd be like, yeah, good. They need to get divorced. This was rocky. It's for multiple reasons. We've watched it play out on TV. You know, I just, I have empathy for, I know you do too, for, like, women that grew up in, like, extremely religious environments where there was certain ideals about how women are supposed to act and dress and what their bodies are supposed to be used for. She's 27. She's about to have her fourth kid. Like, they got married super young. The way he spoke to her was terrible. Women don't really have as much access to money, education, starting their own businesses. And what these women have done. They just, like, break free of that. And it's inspiring to see. But they tease getting divorced every year. And I don't think it's a shtick for, like, a storyline. Yeah. So, like, it's just really bleak because she's really struggled so much with motherhood. So just take a break, sis. Well, they're taking a break from each other. Have less kids. Things are going rough for Jen. Wellness check on Jen because Whitney is getting her own show. I saw these two headlines together. And I was like, Jen is not going to survive this. Same day. So Whitney is going to get her own reality show on Hulu. There isn't a ton of details about this. But they confirmed that she will have a reality show to focus on her and Connor and their kids and her life. Okay. Your next headline, the 2027 Met Gala theme has been announced. So John Galliano was originally, I guess he was going to be the theme. Yeah, like his work. And everyone was like, no. Because he's so problematic. He's a problem. So then they were like, okay, then you get jeans. If you don't want John, you get jeans. He was accused and charged. Two hate crimes, right? Two hate crimes. Yeah, for sure. He shouldn't be put on a pedestal. How did this happen? Tell us about the theme. It's extraordinary. Ordinary in caps. I mean, you guys really scrambled. This is all you could come up with? White jeans and a t-shirt? So it's going to be like basics elevated, but like literal jeans, t-shirts, tank tops. Like this is not why we watched the Met Gala. Want camp. Bring back camp. 2019 camp. Never been able to top it. I'm chasing the camp high. Yeah. So we'll see. I mean, I am looking forward to seeing. What people do. Yeah. All right. Sort of. But I mean, it'll be comfy. I'm sure the Kardashians will find a way to make it uncomfy. Stuff themselves and have a 17-inch waist. Well, speaking of the Kardashians. Yes. The Skims advent calendar. I mean, I really do love Skims. I love the brand. I shop them a lot. But this was such a shocking miss from them. I actually couldn't believe what I was looking at. They put out an advent calendar. The packaging, gorgeous. Yeah. I mean, you start seeing. I mean, first, Ashley and I both opened up our eyes yesterday morning and immediately sent each other the advent calendar. I mean, it was a couple of scrunchies, hair ties, bra straps, a couple of keychains, a little squishy puff. I don't know who greenlit this. You know, I don't get it because say what you will about this brand. They do incredible marketing. Second to none. Second to none. The clothes are quality. Yes. They hold up. We stand by it. We have a lot of it. They have great customer service. What happened here? Part of me is like, was this? Some sort of stunt. Like, how did this even happen? Like, but they're going to take a loss on this. They have to refund everybody. So the advent calendar was $150. And like within hours, they sent emails out to people saying, we'll either refund you in full or you can keep it. We'll give you $150 credit towards shopping here. I mean, they corrected it very quickly. You're so right. They are like a genius marketing company. I don't know how this happened. I feel like we're missing something. Like they could like this on purpose. Yes. At least everybody. So the end of time talks about the skims out of my calendar, but because they knew they would take a loss on this. You can't put nine hair ties and two key chains and three bobby pins and charge people $150. And it's the stuff that came out of the couch cushions. Like this was crazy work, but they did the right thing. They corrected it like almost too quickly. I'm telling you, there's no way a bunch of people sat around a boardroom and were like, let's send it like not one Merkin thong. Yes. For $150. I just, I don't understand. I wish I could have been in those meetings where they put everything on the table. I mean, the cumulative value of everything in there was $8. $9 someone said, like they actually did the math. So I want to say, I saw a lot of discourse about, but they listed what was in it and you should have read it. And I don't agree. I think it's the point is to be surprised. That's part of the fun. Isn't that the whole point of it? Yeah, but people, so much people, so many people on threads were like, they say what's in it and they, they do. Okay. It's on like another tab. So I think if you don't want to see it, you don't. It's not right in your face, essentially, but right in the product description, they do say, they list it out. It's an accessories advent calendar, by the way. So they never said like skim surprise bag, like you're going to get underwear, which you wouldn't do underwear anyway, because you need to have it be sized for everybody, but whatever it could have been, it could have been socks or something, you know, whatever. But I just don't think that's fair to shame people for not seeing what's in it. Part of it is you're supposed to buy these things from, actually, probably not. I guess you're really never supposed to buy these things because a lot of them are garbage. But like, if there's a brand you trust, you should be able to buy this and be surprised and you should get your money's worth. And so I don't think it's fair to shame the people that bought it because they didn't read the product description. That's not the point. I'm not going to be victim blamed. Yeah, I just wanted to say that. Like that's. Inside of a box. So I didn't, I've never bought an advent calendar in my life. Like, I want to see them more unboxings. I saw Mac did a good one. Someone said Trader Joe's does a good one, but I want to see the shitty ones. Food ones, I think are good. Senna's ones that you guys think are just like absolutely insane. We were going to try to do one for Vibes Only last year. Yeah. They are a lot of work and it is really hard to get all that stuff into one box and give people value. That's why we ended up doing it. It's really hard to do. Yeah. If we try to do one for Vibes Only and be like, we'll do it, but it's a thousand dollars. If you want 12 vibrators on that. Okay. And we're going to leave you with one last headline with no context, but we just like the headline, Jordan Hudson files lawsuit over viral shirtless Bill Belichick video days after their breakup was announced. And that. Is all you need to know. I don't really care about the story, but that's crazy. I'd say you guys get it. Like stop body shaming my ex. That's kind of it. She was like, you're not allowed to take photos like this. Yeah, that's true. Okay. Well, good for her. She's still advocating. It was 2023. She's living in the past. All right, guys. Well, that is your snack. If you are listening to this today and you don't have plans in Vegas tonight and you want to come to Raina's show, it's the very last show of her tour. So congratulations. Thank you. November 12th. It's the last day of your tour. That's it. It's over. Yeah, so we'll talk about it later. Her feelings on it will be over. Yeah, we'll talk about it on the next snack. Yes, but if you're coming tonight, we will see you tonight. And if you want last minute tickets, rainagreenberg.com. Girlsgottoeat.com is our website. Girls Got To Eat podcast on Instagram and TikTok. I'm ashess on Instagram and TikTok. Raina's raina.greenberg. Full video on Spotify and YouTube. Share this episode with a friend. Leave a comment. Leave a review. And we will see you Monday. Have a good week, guys. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. When an intruder approaches a home, they expect a camera. What they don't expect. Stop. This is simply safe. Police are on the way. 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