The Snack: Celeb Brand Drama, Hayden Panettiere, and Illegal Paparazzi

This week on the snack celebrity brand fraud paparazzi wedding picks and sterling point. This is a dear media production enjoy Hi guys, hi guys. I just feel like we could wait. I don't want to move this camera. They're both right there I see a penis in the brain a doll It was like open to him and most of his penis was in the shot So you guys go to YouTube to see Ashley's new dogs penis while we're here We do have personal updates that we both have had big dick visitors in our house So I'll talk about mine and you can talk about yours. We already talked about I don't want you to reveal too much, but I feel like for the past two episodes We've talked about a guy and just you're hanging out with somebody and you'll let people know if it gets more serious But how did the weekend go and the fridge? He wasn't here. Oh, oh that last week. It was a week. Yeah, it's a time. Okay Yeah, that's all he feel about the fridge. We never went in the fridge. We didn't need one fucking meal here We never opened the fridge. He wanted to take me out for every single meal Oh, he did all he wanted to do was buy breakfast buy lunch buy dinner buy dinner for my friends We didn't open that fridge. What's fucking time? Okay, I'm mad about it. I'm super mad I was sold a bunch of bullshit about how you got to get men food for your house And you know what you don't because what you should do is what I did Which is to make them take you out for every meal a hundred percent the audacity of him wanting to buy you food Okay, I just this these two at these two dogs are can I just send you we're gonna put up on the screen Because I just have to send you this and just show you what they're doing and to show the audience Rainier's gonna die. So I'm gonna give it update. So I am fostering For wags and woks this senior 30-peffled black pug Name Zizu and right now he's like asking Nozul if he can get up on the couch He's allowed to be up on the couch like he's been on the couch his giant dick has been resting on the couch That is the smallest job with the biggest dick So I think it's just Disproportionate like he's like a short king with a big dick Because I don't think it's like it would be big on a on a medium or large sized dog like okay So anyway, he is really sweet. He's up for adoption you guys. He's a sweet angel You can adopt him you can be like a girl's got to eat mascot foster dog for you guys via wags and woks You know what I'm just gonna do the link to adopt it in our show notes this week So if you guys are interested and I just have loved having him It's only day two, but he's just really easy. I walked them both this morning I felt like such a baddy walking them both at the same time. He's really spunky I mean, he has a lot of energy for being eight years old. He's really funny him and his old get along great I think he would be great with a single person or with a couple or with a family with kids I think you'd be so fun with kids and again He's with wags and woks LA and I've just had a really great experience But yeah, I posted this story and I did notice he had a big like He's like neutered obviously that goes not same But it's like that is what is it is that there's scrotum like wherever the dick is inside looked a bit huge Do you ask me I've no way I don't know how animals work actually so then Andrew Collin immediately responds to my Instagram story Does that talk have the biggest penis ever and then everyone else started coming to the DMs? And so I just had to post it to acknowledge it. I just want to get let me give him a big come here ZZ He'll come over here and then we'll get him in the shot So keep watching watching spot if I watch on YouTube you guys know you'll see you'll see them both at some point But you'll see how well sell three of them says all these do and little ZZ Big ZZ I have a show this week tomorrow As you guys listen at the at the comedy store, and I have been like trying to write this joke about it and Just like is my other dog jealous of like no, but my husband is Shoshaka's a great dick. I just I thought of the tag and I'm gonna see how this is really funny I'm sorry. I can't be there, but I'll be with you next week or reuniting next week, and I'm really excited Who was I with recently that we're like you guys have seen each other a lot? Yeah, it was me. I tell you every day I've seen you more than I ever saw you and when we lived down the street from each other I spent all my time with you. It's been great. No, but someone else like Who was I just with that just asked Taylor Jacqueline? Might have been Kate I can't remember what yes Kate Steinberg and chat we had a double date with them And she was like you guys have seen each other a ton and then just one more update So Ashley and I are really excited to announce to you guys a position that we're gonna put out to our audience Which is a senior podcast producer at girls got to eat we're looking for somebody who is gonna work on the podcast just end-to-end day-to-day pre-production all the way through post-production They're gonna help manage recordings and scheduling and social content and creative and it's gonna be a really fun position You guys will work really closely with us and our editors, but we're putting it out to our audience You guys are the smartest coolest most amazing women We've truly have ever had the pleasure of knowing and if you know anybody that sounds right for this that has experience and podcast production and media Send them our way you can go to girls got to eat calm if you go to our contact page There's a big button that says work with us apply now We are just excited to put this out to you guys and hopefully find somebody amongst the girls got a family Yeah, and the requirements are there just We want someone that's had an experience in this like what we say senior level. We mean it. Don't just DM like hey bitches I want to work for you because that does be happening and that will not get you the job So experience applicants only we love you all But just wanted to say that and yeah, we're really excited We wouldn't we really haven't had to do this before we've had amazing people come to us and been referred to us And we really just want to reach out to the best of the best which is our audience. So yeah And if you're on Instagram, um, the link is also in our bio in Instagram So lots of places to find it. Okay, great. Let's just talk about our partners and then we will get into it Okay, thank you to hinge download their audiobook no ordinary love stories of real couples who took risks for free on Spotify and AG1 get an AG1 flavor sampler plus a bottle of vitamin D3 plus K2 free with your first AG1 subscription at drink AG1.com slash gge and quince get free shipping and 365 favorite turns on your next order at quince.com slash gge and app exclusive offers when you download the app and thank you to Lola blankets get 40% off your order at Lola blankets.com with Code girls got a eat and thank you to butcher box get $20 off your first box and free shipping plus your choice of Ground beef chicken or sarloins in every box at butcherbox.com slash gge Okay, so we are going to kick it off with a celebs brand report a lot going on a real common theme of Some controversies with a lot of celebrity brands. This is like the most things we've had in one report number of items I know and it's really fascinating to me when a celebrity slaps their name on a brand and how they are involved in the brand and you see a huge range of this all the way from like Skims with Kim Kardashian, which is a wildly popular successful brand all the way to this which brings us to our first report Selena Gomez and her mom are accused of fraud over their mental health startup. So Selena Gomez and her mom they start this company. It's called Wonder Mind and it's supposed to be a Wellness sort of multimedia company with podcasts and an app a website writing all these kind of things and her mom is essentially Been running this company, but investors were sold this story that like Selena Gomez was gonna be the head of marketing and There's good reason to believe she would be heavily involved because Selena Gomez also owns Rare Beauty Which is a billion dollar company that is highly successful and she's extremely involved in that company But investors basically are saying they were defrauded. They were sold this idea that Selena Gomez was gonna be like the head of marketing for this company Which they poured in 1.2 million dollars into this company and they're saying they were just misled It's really interesting what sort of happened here basically the people that work there are alleging those are her mom Really ran the company and it was into the ground. Yeah, I mean she was really hard to work with She was like not reliable. They didn't actually ever produce this app that they said that they were gonna produce and All these things like were sold to them. They said we're gonna come to fruition and weren't and it's just sort of interesting like What companies tell investors a celebrity involvement will be in a brand? I mean you couldn't actually possibly think that Selena Gomez actress and singer Selena Gomez is day to day They had a marketing at a well. Well, yeah, and again like all the her lawyers are saying this isn't true This is what happens like we don't know all the ins and outs But it is interesting. We've talked to different investors over the years and they hammer you with questions about your involvement They've asked what if you what if you guys got a fight would you go to therapy? Like we got asked if we were to want to break up How would we repair our relationship to stay on and like run the company and promote the company and I don't know Maybe the investors didn't ask all the right questions. Maybe this was like it all is but the whole situation No, I'm just kidding, but like who's to say what really went down But again her involvement with rare beauty should be The precedent of her involvement in her brands, but I guess that's not what was happening here So who's to say ultimately when you get a celebrity side on to a brand and put their name on it Which is what you're seeing with Alex Cooper So this is I'm gonna tie these two together But Alex Cooper announced that her beverage offshoot of Unwell also called Unwell Which is a partnership with Nestle, which is a gay to raid like brand is shutting down after basically one year And she put her name on this and that's really for the most part I think what investors can expect when you like slapped your name on a brand that like celebrities gonna get you the initial trial people like I I like Alex Cooper, I listen to her shout out, I'll drink her fucking brand, whatever. But it is up to the company to make a good product. Rare beauty makes a good product. You have road that makes a great product in their attached to Haley Bieber or Skims of Kim Kardashian. You shouldn't expect that this celebrity is attached to it day in and day out. And if they're not, the company has to function on its own. It just depends. I think of all the brands. I think of base that I don't even know if people know Shay Mitchell is involved. And also she's not like the biggest a-lister, like a Kim Kardashian. Like that brand stands alone. I would drink Cosmigo's regardless of who owned it. It has nothing to do with the celebrity for me. Skims, Skims, great products. Would they be as popular if Kim wasn't so involved? What Kim Kardashian does for Skims is the top in terms of her level of fame and how busy she is and how involved she is with Skims. She's a model for it, you know? So they've just done a great job and they have a great team, great CEO. Obviously, same with Good American. Again, I can't speak too much on the Selena Gomez thing because what she's done with Rare Beauty is so impressive. Alex Cooper, I mean, whatever you think of Alex Cooper, she is built in media empire. She's been extremely successful whether you like her or not. The valuation of Unwell as a company as a whole was just valued at 500 million. These are just facts. And we're allowed to try and fail at things. She started this thing. It doesn't matter if you have a huge following in all the resources. Sometimes it just doesn't matter. When Unwell, the beverage launched, I couldn't believe that's what they came up with with a product launch. I remember you and I, because the imagery of her at this board room and I'm entering the conversation and we thought something so fucking big and baller was happening. And it was a drink like in an oversaturated market, the single-use plastic with Nestle at Target, it felt like the most basic of basic money grabs. I feel like it wasn't elevated in any way. I think it was really smart in a lot of ways 'cause you'll have a guest drinking it and the product placement of it all with the podcast network. - Sure. - And the name was, the people think the name is so stupid 'cause it's a drink that's supposed to make you well, but it's called Unwell. I think it was tongue-in-cheek. It doesn't really bother me. I didn't think the brand name was that great. I just couldn't picture people going to buy it no matter how much they love her. I mean, this is what we said from the very beginning. We were like, this was an odd choice. And I don't really know how much she committed to the brand. I don't follow her day in, day out. I think she was pretty committed to promoting it. But now she's got so much going on. She's gonna be a mom. I don't know. I don't think it was a great product. I think that some of the flavors people say they tasted good others. They didn't. We tried one when we went and recorded with Harry Jalsey. We liked it enough. I just never felt like that was a slam dunk. No matter whose name was on it. And the same with Lionel Messi. I mean, he launched a hydration sports drink in June 2024 that just was discontinued in January, 2026. This is even a woman versus men thing. I mean, he's an athlete that launched it. An athlete, it's most famous athlete alive on the flours. I just, my point is like it's a performance drink launched by an athlete, you know, like what Alex Cooper have done a better with an alcoholic drink. I just thought, and well, was such an odd choice for them to really put their whole pussy into launching a product. And that was it. I just think it's so fascinating. We like slap a celebrity's name on it. It's something like they can lead you to water and they'll bring you like audiences of millions of people. But like the product has to be good. And like to me, this is not a failure of like Alex Cooper in any way. Like you said, her business is valued at $500 million. She's doing great. It's just, I don't think way more than we're going to buy this product. I don't think that people are going to go back for this product. I mean, it tastes like gay to read to me. It's gay to read. So those are two, but there's still more tea with these librarians. So this is actually a big fraud story. And it might get even bigger. So, okay, Phoebe Gates, daughter of Bill Gates. She has a company called Fia with Sophia Keone. And it's a plug-in for your computer. It allows you to compare us in shop prices. And basically how they make their money is through these plugins. They'll compare a couple of things for you. And if you click on the link for that thing and you buy it, they get affiliate like money. So they get a percentage of the purchase from the websites. And that's how they make their money. So basically, what is being alleged is they were doing something called cookie stuffing. And what that means-- Which, honestly, is a term I've never heard. But we have all been there at a dessert table at the vet. Oh, I thought you were going to stop it. I thought you met my cookie with stuff. I'm picturing pudding cookies in my bag. Literally, we went to this movie the other night. The cookies were free. Why did I put three cookies in my purse? Actually, you love cookies. You love cookies. You love cookie stuffing. Why did my brain go pussy? I thought vagina. OK. OK. Anyways, so she's warning everybody. OK. Anyways, moving on. So they're alleging that they were doing this thing called cookie stuffing, which is that they were taking affiliate link money for purchases that did not originate from their company. So basically, if you opened up another browser that had nothing to do with their app or their URLs or whatever, and you just went to like Oritsia and bought a shirt, they would also get credit for that. And Phoebe Gates and her partner were saying, this was just a fluke. It was an accident. We were made aware of it, and we fixed it. And now people have gone back into their company communication. It realized for seven months, they have known about this. And there is email communications proving that. And this is a big no-no. This is bad. You're not supposed to do that. This is a bad one. Yeah, because I just listened. I'm not a cookie expert. I know cookies are a little confusing, and the way they track you. And obviously, if we post a link for something to buy for you guys on Revolve or Quince, and you don't buy that same thing, what you do buy also gives a commission back to the person who posted the link. I mean, I think that's not a hot take. So it's just-- I don't know. It's like, you take that, and you multiply it with some room for error. I could see how this could happen. And it could be like, oopsie. But it sounds like they knew about it. And they were like, let's just keep stuff in these cookies. Let's let it roll. And here's why this is significant. So the company raised $43.5 million. It was valued around almost $200 million. So they're basically saying, this is the money that we're generating, and it's falsified records. OK. Well, that's your cookie stuffing update. You guys, let's end on another food related note with Bethany Frankl's chicken salad pop up. Is that right? Is that correct? Or did she just say chicken salad? [LAUGHTER] OK, we'll tell me. So Bethany Frankl opened something called Supermodel Cafe in the Hampton. Obviously, she did. Yeah, obviously. I'm Skinny Girl, Supermodel. She's not letting it go. I mean, we have leaned out as a society to this Skinny Girl stuff, but she's leaned back in. And she was doing all of these on the way up to being in the sports illustrated swimsuit, catwalk thing. She was eating all these, which she called Supermodel Snacks, which were just kind of like low-cal, high-protein type of things. And then she also reviews all these chicken salads. Yeah, I don't know. We used to like her. We sort of leaned out. But you know, whatever. Yeah, I'm not really a fan, but-- I'm not Russian to Supermodel Cafe. So anyway, she opened it this weekend. And I don't know. I saw some reviews. It looks fine. It's a pop-up in the Hamptons. I don't know if it's a pop-up. But I mean, it is inside of a store, whether or not this is going to be long-term or not. But it is there. It is certainly-- it's a grocery store. So immediately, what, they're overcapacity, violations, South Hampton officials said violations are being issued. There's a yellow warning. All these things happened. And I'm not a fan of Bethany, but I think this is a funny flex that it was overcapacity. She's like, they tried to shut us down. We're going to keep going. I guess there was a stop work order. I wish some of them would issue us a stop work order. I'm tired of working. I love stop work. Hands up. I will. I'll stop working now. I try to get you to stop working all the time. All the time, you're like, I've been working all day. And I'm like, do not answer another email. Enjoy your life. Enjoy your husband and the food he banks for you. And you're like, you know what I'm going to do? It's 10.30 at night. I'm going to be talking to you about emails. You've never stopped working. All I'm ever trying to do is stop work. That is fair. Reyna is my work cop. And I'm just ignoring these stop work orders. Last night was so funny, Ashley. Last night, it's 10.30. You were like, we need to decide on this email. And I was like, great, my work hours are over. But I'll respond in the morning. 30 seconds later. I'm just going to respond right now. I just really want to get on it right now. It was time sensitive. OK, anyway. So more than 700 people came out for this chicken salad-- or sorry, for the opening, but then the chicken salad sold out, and then whatever. All this drama happened. It's just like a funny thing, you know, just whatever flutter cook, I guess. I'm sure the chicken salad was bomb. I will give her credit there. I better be good. I mean, for all the shitchee talks on chicken salad, I mean, nothing will ever be error one chicken salad. It's the greatest chicken salad ever created. My favorite chicken salad is a place called Lori's in Rojoba Beach. You had it. But it's not for everybody. It's so good. It has blue cheese. It's not overpowering. But if you hate blue cheese, you wouldn't like it. But it is so, so good. Lori's cafe. Their tuna salad is amazing, too. You guys are over in Rome, it's like a really cute spot. OK, let's just talk about our partners and then we will get into more corporate greed. OK, well, you guys know that we are longtime fans of Hinge. 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He's been a part of the girls gotta eat, family, and our close personal friend for a long time. And he is a personal trainer, and again, he has this app, but he used to be an instructor at Flywheel. That's how I met him when he was at Flywheel and he was also at Berries. And recently, he has done a complete public takedown of Berries. And I go to Berries, I have been very vocal about it. And I think it is a great workout. Obviously he used to work there as well. People love Berries, but basically he puts out this video. It's nine minutes, and it goes viral, which is the feat in of itself, because the algo will not help you out with a video over three minutes. I did a video not too long ago on a darker note. And Instagram was like, "We're not gonna caption this "for you, we're not gonna show to anybody." And it did pretty well, but they really don't put stuff out there that long. So I just want to acknowledge him for that. But he talks about, they send a company wide to all full-time and part-time employees. Let's get aligned on some things, new rules and regulations. And there was a new non-compete that was buried in all of these other things. - Hello, good day. Let's just get right into it today. The non-compete that Berries just rolled out for its full-time and part-time instructors nationwide is an absolute disgrace. - He calls out the CEO by name. I mean, it really is just like a public dragging. And they basically are saying, you can't work with anybody else. Like, you can't work at any other gym. I mean, they name everything from treadmill-based running walking, of course. Cycling, step machine, rowing, hip, kettlebell, bootcamp, boxing, crossfit, circuit training. All of this, you basically can't work anywhere else. And the trainers there are maybe Bobby cited making like 70, 80, K a year. And for the price of rent in major cities, where Berries bootcamp, if you guys aren't familiar also, there's less than a hundred locations, but they are in major cities. So you're talking LA, Chicago, New York, Atlanta. Places where the price of rent is extremely high. And 70K, you can live on 70K, I guess, but a company should not be stepping in and limiting your ability to make more money. And to be fair, most of these other companies do allow their trainers to go work at other companies and to also take on private clients. So they are saying boxing, crossfit, hit workouts, you can't do any of it. And this would make sense to me, by the way, if you're a Peloton instructor, you're highly tied to the brand. So you're somebody like Tune Day or Cody Rigsby or Alex Tussant who are heavily tied to a brand. And if you're making more, you're making a lot of money. It would be insane to see one of those people teaching a Berries bootcamp class because those are full-time jobs. They have a ton of classes that they teach whatever. This is sort of like, I guess unheard of that a full-time instructor would not be able to teach at at 45 or other places like this. It's really egregious and yes, to your point, like Peloton instructors do make more, that's really tied to their personal brand. And so Bobby would, again, he worked at Flywheel and Berries at the same time. This is a newer, non-compete. And I asked him, just to clarify, I was like, when you worked at Flywheel, you couldn't work at SoulCycle. He was like, correct. That is a direct competitor. And so I get if you're a brand that you're like, you can't work at these two other places, but the video is very funny because he says that Berries cites their direct competitors as Orange Theory and F-45. And he's like, you guys don't know your customer at all. Which I just think it's very funny. Like Bobby has found his calling in this type of content. He is so well-versed and so smart about it. He has all the receipts. He doesn't give a fuck. You know when you see your friend in their true flow state? Like, this is Bobby's true calling. Is to do this type of content. Like, everyone's like, do this brand next. I think people want more. I mean, he also really dove into Flywheel and the things they did really great before they shut down. And people are in the comments like, do solid court. They really want him to get into this with other brands. But the Berries thing just, it went pretty viral. And there was, Berries made this statement of like, we're listening, you know, and it really did it. Of course they did, you know. And it was just kind of all bullshit. And this made waves internationally. Berries instructors have done their own personal statements. I've seen instructors I take here in LA posting things that are like, they're not going to drag the company they work for. That's how they make money. They want to keep their classes. And so they're trying to tow the line too. I mean, every trainer should hate this and feel victimized by it. I mean, and this is just part of a bigger problem with corporate greed. Like, you've got to let people make a living. And you have to invest in the people that work for you. Like, Bobby's take is Berries just wants to expand and please their investors. And they do not give a fuck any longer about their instructors or they would pay them more or they wouldn't make this non-compete a strict. It's crazy. It's crazy. And there's-- so to put it in perspective for you guys, there's like 89 locations of Berries boot camp. F-45 has almost 800 locations. An orange theory has 1,300. So there's not even-- if these people want to work more, if they want to work at more studios, there's less availability for them to even do that. Most trainers take on all these personal clients. They do boxing gyms. They do hit workouts. And lastly, to your point, Berries trainers, it is not their personal brand. The way it is for Peloton. So if they're not front facing, if they're not representing the company and commercials, the way Peloton is, why? Why would you stand in their way of making money? And if you are going to pay them a lot more, if you are going to pay them 50% more, they are making closer to like a 120, 130. I understand it more too. I was talking about this, worrying about this. And that's one of his points too, is like, you're really hurting these people and they're a building to make a living. And I think it even said, I mean, you can go watch Bobby's nine-minute video, but you can't train more than like four clients at a time. So you couldn't even have be like a trainer with a group setting of your own. It's really just feels like a personal attack on the people who were responsible for the success of the company. - Well, if you guys are in fitness, you want to be a personal trainer. Bobby's app joined. Bobby's app, Adonis, is amazing. And you guys can look into it. If you want to find a personal trainer or you are a personal trainer and you want to match with the client, this is not paid ad. But we just, we love what they're doing. And he doesn't stand in anybody's way to compete. and go work with other brands. So check that out if you guys need a trainer or you are a trainer. - Yeah, and like I wanna see if anything else comes a bit and if they walk this back, which they should. You know, I still wanna go to berries. I want them to realize this was a mistake and I want them to listen and walk this back. - Watch this space, you know? - Watch this space, yeah. - So we're gonna change gears a little bit and talk about Hayden Panatier, who passed away at the age of 36 on Sunday, was when this news broke. And it's been a little cagey with the cause of death. She's had a lot of struggles with mental health, substance abuse, alcoholism. She really became famous at a super young age. You know, I really just, I feel for people that were thrust into the spotlight at that age, you could not possibly have normal coping mechanisms. There's just no way. And when she had her daughter years ago, she experienced really serious problems with postpartum, she lost custody of her daughter and she has fought her way back, hopefully, to sobriety. She did this interview with Jay Shetty two months ago, where she talked about in her memoir that she was putting out that somebody really famous in Hollywood, she'd essentially been on a yacht one day. There was a woman on the yacht that had sort of lured her into the bedroom with this man. She did not name him. She said somebody very, very famous in Hollywood. And essentially, she was put there to sleep with him. And she ended up kind of escaping and hiding on a part of the boat until the boat had docked. But she made this allegation. This interview, Jay Shetty came out and this memoir was sort of imminent, right? Yeah, the memoir came out in May. Okay. And then the interview was around the same time. I don't know if it's the same or has fallen by. But yeah, all this was just within the past few months. It's a really sad state. There are, you know, certainly conspiracy theories as to what happened here. But she was so young, it's so tragic. It's so sad to see something like this and somebody who struggled so much for so long as well. I was trying to get their life together and get their daughter back and all these things. Yeah, this is like such a heartbreaking loss. I mean, this is someone who we have seen on our screens for me since "Remember the Titans." She was such a talent. She was so beloved. She was an animal rights activist. Among other things, Alyssa Milano just posted this really beautiful tribute to her and all of her activism. And she just seemed like a really beautiful soul and someone who was deeply sad. I mean, if you watch her Jay Shetty interview, Tamron Hall, I saw an interview recently. She just seems, I hate to call someone broken, but she seems really like she's been through so much, but is still such a fighter and was still so open and honest with her life and her struggles. Collectively, everyone is taking this so hard because of that. And it's just, it's not sitting right with my spirit. I will say. I mean, I guess she reconnected with an abusive ex. She was found in Hotel Worm and Greenville, South Carolina. Apparently a drug overdose cardiac arrest. And this is right on the heels of her exposing predators and abuse in Hollywood. Yeah, I mean, this feels like the timing. I mean, this is giving Erin Carter among others and people who have died and it just feels suspicious. And I am not a conspiracy theorist typically. You know, I understand people are really hurting and I understand people take their lives and they overdose on drugs. I mean, I had a friend commit suicide earlier this year. It was hard to grasp for someone who he was, if someone who was so kind, always so happy, so it seemed and took his own life. And like we all had to accept that. Like I know this happens. You know, I want to tread so lightly. This isn't like, this isn't what happened, but it's really suspicious. And I feel like that's what a lot of people are saying and the timing of it all. Like you really start to speak out. And like I am going to share my truth and talk about what happened to me in Hollywood and what my life was like being famous at a young age and you die. - Absolutely. - And it just feels like the math is not mathing, you know, so it's just so, so heartbreaking. And yeah, I mean, she had given up custody for a kid, but what her, the father of that child, that he was with her, he was 30, she was 19. - Yeah, that's a little weird. - You know, just various things like that are just upsetting. It's just upsetting all around and I don't want to go too deep on like all my thoughts about Hollywood and Epstein and all these things, but we have to be able to make these correlations. I mean, that really is all there is to say about her. You are condolences got to her family and her daughter. - Yeah, it's a real loss. It's really, really heartbreaking. Rest in peace to Hayden Panettier gone too soon. Why too soon? - Okay, let us talk about our remaining partners. Reset and we will get back into it. I am telling you guys about Lola blankets. Okay, so the blankets are obviously incredible, but I did just get a dog bed. - Oh my God! - So they have these amazing dog beds. So that is on the way for Azul and we just love everything they do. 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Okay, we're gonna give you guys some racks of stuff to watch. I went and saw Tony this week, which is the Anthony Bourdain biopic. I loved it. I mean, I always think in these biopics, like how are they gonna pick a part of somebody's life to explore? And if you guys are kitchen confidential, it opens up with basically this chapter of Anthony Bourdain going to work in his first restaurant in Provincetown. And it's not entirely a true story of the biopic. (laughing) They alleged that he like follows this girl there, blah, blah, blah. Really, it was like his high school sweetheart that he married. It was for 30 years. But I really loved it. He means so much to me. His books mean so much to me. Everywhere I've truly traveled in my 20s and 30s, I watched no reservations. And I went to every one of those places. And he really, the way he treated people, the way he saw women's rights, the way he saw minorities rights and the world, it is just, it's really something I hope to emulate. He really just fought for people to come together, see each other in a more positive light, especially through the lens of food. He just means a lot to me. So I recommend the movie. It's an hour and 46 minutes, which is a dream. Okay. And if you guys see it, the last like minute of the movie has somebody in it that I just like didn't know was gonna be in the movie. I burst into tears. The lights came on. I was crying when the movie came. - Oh my gosh. - It's embarrassing. But it is somebody from his real life that I thought was like a beautiful addition to the movie. And he just met so much me. I'm rereading Kitchen Confidential, which is funny 'cause it came out in 2001. And it's so interesting reading books about the food world of the restaurant industry 'cause like this predates all food content. Like top chef didn't exist, social media didn't exist. So it's interesting to just read about the restaurant world in general, but I loved it. Go see it, great movie, great acting. Pasted so perfectly. It's really, really great. Yeah, I love him. When we got back from Singapore, we started watching some old parts unknown episodes and obviously such a fan, such an inspiration. But more importantly, thank you for saying biopic. It is time to open up this discussion because you ashamed me for this before. And I feel like I have finally found enough community privately to speak out and share my truth publicly, which is that I say biopic. And I'm not the only one. And this is the correct adult sophisticated pronunciation biopic, biography, biopic. And listen, I don't care what the internet says. I don't care what's correct. But there are people out there like me that are saying biopic, like biopic. And I'm done being ashamed of it. Who are these people? Show me what, where is the community? Do you ask? There is a community on-premise, I've seen it. And you know the reason, how this started, where I realized I wasn't the only one. When I did my, are you okay, man on the street interview with the host, Brianna? She. that who would play you in a biopic, oh, sorry, biopic. And I'm like, did you just say biopic? - That's crazy. - And I was like, I say that too. And we're like, oh my God. And so then I was like, okay, I got one. There's one person on my side. And then I found some threads on the internet. Again, on threads. And people say this. And it's fun. You could say I'm wrong, but I at least want to share my truth and say that if you naturally want to say biopic, you are not alone. Okay, there's a couple things. People say collab, which I hate for collaboration. And that is wrong. That's not the, but okay. Like when you say like Lincoln Bio, like that's still biography. And it's still bio. So it's biopic. - It's fine. - But I say you're saying biography, biopic. - Yeah, I just at least want some validation that I'm not the only one. And I want some support. And it's just, it's one of those things that's where my head goes. And I just was glad I was not alone. - Okay, can I really went deep on the internet? - Can I ask you a question? What? - I've been talking to somebody new and he keeps saying, I don't even know why this word keeps coming. Ornery, but he says it's unre. - Like unre. - And I'm like, don't correct him, rena. Don't be like this. - You're being a little honorary. Like Zizu's being a little honorary. - Honory. And I'm like, I will nitpick so many things. I have to like pick my battles and this can't be one of them, but it's not honorary, right? It's ornery. - Are you sure in context? You're sure he's trying to say ornery? - I'm not talking about being ornery. - It's like kids and dogs. - I don't know. He says weird stuff. I don't know. - He said you were being a little honorary. - He's like rena, why are you being a little honorary? - I need an ID like a full. - He thinks it's so sweet, which is crazy. Like your husband needs for a patient. (laughing) - Rena's biggest regret for my wedding is when Shoshong said I was patient for her not to stop his, him in the middle of his vows and say raise your hand if you think Ashley's patient. - I think about it. - I think about it every now. - I just. (laughing) - Okay, well, there's no really no discussion about honorary or ornery and you're going to have to check him on that sooner than later. But please leave a comment if you guys also want to say biopic and it doesn't mean that we're right. But I just want to find my community. - I agree. You just, you know, even if you're wrong, you need community. That's what MAGA's about, you know? (laughing) That's all of MAGA. - That's all of MAGA. - 30-second boilerplate, but tires season three is out. It's Shane Gilles' show on Netflix about a mechanic show about a tire shop. It's, this is the best season of tires. It is so funny. I love it. I guess they got a bigger budget. They're filming outside the shop this season and they're doing all kinds of stuff outside the shop. It has made me laugh so hard. It's like the office filmed in a mechanic shop. It's very funny. So if you guys want to rack, that's my rack. - I started it and this is actually in the preview in Netflix, but Shane does this monologue about you start to date somebody and you have to go on vacations and you have to go to restaurants. He's like fucking restaurants and she just wants to take a picture of a $100 plate of pasta and then you just have to do engagement photos and show all your boys that this woman has you by the balls and then you get married and all she does is have you what take out the trash and kill spiders and like I literally should shock and I looked at each other like, damn, that's true. No, we love restaurants, but it was like a funny moment between couples because like he does take out the trash and kill spiders. And it's just like a funny rant from Shane. Yeah, I mean, I think he's just so funny, the show's amazing. So if you guys just want somebody to watch this week, that's my pick. - My pick is Sterling Point. I'm sure most of you guys have already watched it. This is like one of the number one shows. This is on a prime video and I spoke about it last week. So it's an if you know, you know, if you're watching, you're watching, I did misspeak on a theme of the show last week about the mom, whatever. I would only see one episode. So you guys know where I got that from. But I just want to speak on the show because I find it so fascinating. This is the most realistic natural dialogue. I have seen in a long time, maybe ever. And I realized it as I was watching it. I was like, it feels like this is how people in general actually talk, but especially young people of this age. And like they'll say like and they'll flub a word. And it just feels really natural. And when they get kind of worked up and there's this one scene where the star of the show, Ella Rubin, who was just such a queen, is talking about getting her period and her mom and her dad. And I'm like, God, that's so good. This is how people really talk. And so I looked into it in Megan Park, who created this. The headline in the Hollywood Reporter is why Megan Parks, YA series, trades, tired tropes for refreshing dose of realism. But she said she wanted to make it feel authentic as possible. And she just let them riff. Like they had a script, but she was like, go off script, talk how you normally talk. And I don't think that's happening a lot. And they really did that. And it is so refreshing and so fun to watch. And I think people who've watched it know this, that you're watching it, like, why does this feel so real? And I love to know that she was like, make it feel real. Talk how you want to talk. Like there was a point where I was like, they flubbed that. But because you would do that in real life. I mean, there's nothing that'll make me turn a show off quicker than dialogue that does not reflect how people speak. And it's just corny and no one talks like that. So thank God for this. So I just, I love this show. It's a beautiful show. There's this montage and the last episode that has just occurred in her mom. It's kind of a dream sequence type thing. And it just will rip your heart out. And the acting is so incredible. And Ella Rubin is like a true star. She will be one of the greatest stars of our lifetime. People are comparing her. Even looks wise to Anne Hathaway, who she played in Hathaway's daughter in the idea of you. They really do look similar to 90s Julia Roberts, Sandra Bullock. I mean, she's just an incredible talent. I love this show. So sterling point, I can't wait for season two. The way it ends, you're like really dying to see season two. So that's my pick. OK, well, we have another recommendation as we roll into headlines. So your headlines for the week. A Court of Thorns in Roses, which is Sarah J. Masses, just mega hit, the biggest best-selling series like The History of Time or something like that. She revealed the titles and the covers of the next two books in a series. And people didn't know that this was coming. So the very next one will be coming out in October. And then following that, I think January is the next one that's going to come out. So October and then January, people are like losing their minds about it. It's fairy books. It's a fantasy series. I read the first three or four. It got a little monotonous to me. Like, I started to feel like I've sort of like read this. But it's really sexy. It's escapism. It's great. The writing's good. People love it so much. So you really don't see this too back-to-back books. I mean, Harry Potter. Well, like, when we got new-- I'm really dating myself. When the last book of Harry Potter came out, I think I was a senior in college. And we went and waited in line. But those books took years to come out, right? This is surprising. I saw the headline. I was like, two. Double feature. Yes, we've been heavily gifted. Go off, Queen. So look out for that in the fall. OK, so next headline, we have Carl Anthony Towns and Mary's Jordan Woods in a star stud in Malibu wedding. So it's right down the street for me. And just everyone was there. I mean, Justin Haley Bieber, Kylie and Timothy Schallamy, which I'd love to see Kylie there, because they were best friends. And then they had their rift for obvious reasons. And she was there, and just so many stars were out. And we have seen all of these photos. And I just want to rant for a minute. I am so tired of seeing drone picks of weddings specifically. It feels so invasive to me. And Reyna's going to put her lawyer hat on and explain. But I don't understand how you can take drone photos of a private wedding at a private residence or event space and take fucking photos for one and then sell them. And I mean, I don't know every state's law has been in California. It is illegal. It's an invasion of privacy to hover over a place and take photos with a drone. I can't believe this. I mean, what if you want to fly your own drone at your wedding? What if you want the aerial shot of the dip that's not on page six? What if your drone crashed into the paparazzi's drone? Reyna, I would kill a bitch. Like, there's just so many different aspects of this. And I can't understand it. And I'm getting so heated. I'm sick of seeing these. They're really giving me the ick. I don't need to see these. I don't-- the one of Taylor Swift at that wedding. And like Jordan and Kat-- oh, by the way, we haven't talked about the wedding. And the wedding look beautiful. She look beautiful. Happy for them. I love them as a couple. They gave out these favors. It's had married in five sweatsuits. Because next in five, they've been together for five years. Like, I love them. I love the Kylie. I love all the things. But I'm so fucking sick of seeing these photos. And I know we've always had long lens invasive paparazzi photos, which I also hate too, but the wedding specifically and knowing that drones are flying overhead. And then these photos are getting sold. How is this fucking legal? OK, so I will tell you-- Reyna Greenberg asked why. I'll take you through how it's legal and what isn't legal. And also, I'm not totally sick of it. I mean, I do like looking at the photos. I am part of the probably loved looking at Kylie's dress. I'm like, I can't believe we get to see this. This is crazy. But shouldn't we be able to-- we'll see it eventually, right? Like, I mean, and that's what makes so much sense about Taylor Swift's gay married to MSG. Truly the most lockdown fucking place, good for her. I don't think there's another place she could have done. Truly. The minute people started floating those rumors, I was like, this is true. I know it's true. There's no other place she could have done this. You need to be in a fort. So OK, I'll explain this to you guys. I'll give you sort of the boilerplate. Then I'll explain it a little more. Illegally obtaining a photo and illegally publishing a photo are two different things. So people do have a reasonable expectation for privacy. Photos that are legal to obtain is like, you know, if you're walking outside of a church, photographers are outside, paparazzi are outside, they take a photo of you. If you are in a private space, private property, Do you have a reasonable expectation that somebody's not going to fly a drone over your space and take photos? That is not legal and you can litigate that if they want to sue people, they could sue people. However, illegally publishing the photos, it's a totally different thing. So there's two questions. Was it legal to take the photo? Was it legal to publish it? If you fly a drone over somebody's private wedding, and that's probably illegal, however, if you sell that photo to a publication, the publication now has to prove that they didn't obtain that illegally, that they didn't know that these were obtained illegally. So basically, the burden of proof falls on the publication. And they could just be like, we just got it somewhere, we didn't know it was illegally taken, we didn't know. And then republishing those photos is legal. So if people magazine gets those photos from a photographer, publishes them. Anybody else that takes those photos, 100% legal, cannot be sued for anything. Yeah, this is less than my question. I get it. People page six, I care less about them publishing it. It's more just like, how are these paparazzi's flying these drones and selling these photos? Like, are they just getting sued all the time, but it's worth it? That's my question. I don't understand how it even gets to this point where publications are able to buy them. Oh, no, no, it's not legal. So what's happening? Are they just getting sued and they're paying the fines? Is it just like fine sue us that? Well, imagine you're at your wedding and somebody's flying a drone. How are you going to figure out who's flying that drone? You'd have to send people out all over the earth to figure out like who those people were and where they were. But when the photos get published, you can trace them back. It was illegal to take them. So why are we not suing people? You know, like, I don't know. I think I would make an example out of somebody. So you can't. So you can't. So you can't. I just think people aren't. And I think it is what it is. Situation. Absolutely not. I'll spend the rest of my fucking marriage suing people who took drone photos. California specifically has more strict laws than other states. It's because of the volume of celebrities who live there in paparazzi. Yes, you could spend your time suing these people. Absolutely. And if you actually got your hands on that photographer and you figured out that they flew drone over your wedding, yeah, you could absolutely sue them for invasion of privacy. 100%. But you can find out who they are. That's what it's. It's not some secret undercover dark web thing. It's like, they're taking these photos and they're selling them. That's why I think it's so crazy that you're doing something illegal and you're profiting off of it. I feel like my question's still our answer. But your answer is that yes, of course, Kat and Jordi could find out who these photographers are and sue them. 100%. You could. I just think this happens so much that everybody would spend all their time in court. Yes, should somebody make an example out of these people? Yes, but it wouldn't stop. It's like cockroaches, you know, like you step on, you step on one, there's just hundreds more. Yeah. And I mean, again, I don't know what you can do if someone's just illegally flying a drone over your property. Like, I'm calling the fucking police. Like, I just think I wouldn't be able to let this go. Shoot it. I'm going to make an example out of someone 100% blow it up. But my question for you is, do you think that these celebrities like ever do see some of these photos and they're like, ah, can you send me that? Because it is the way they got the dip from the drone. Like again, I'm flying my own drone with that kind of money and I'm going to get every shot. But it's like very funny. Do you think they see those photos? They're like, they got the shot. They got the shot. They got the shot. I think they're really high up and I think they're blurry. Like, they're never. No, they are. They are. They're not. They're like real. So like, there's federal aviation laws that will prevent. So like, Ryan, who shot your wedding, um, he was like joking with me about bringing a drone, but it's not legal. Um. Yeah. That's street legal. That too. There's that too when certain spaces, you can't even actually fly a drone and then that's what I'm saying. Then you fucking call the cops. Okay. We got to move on all this. Fucking call the cops. Thank you for putting your lawyer hat on. You know what I think is very funny is like of the two of us on the doctor, you're the lawyers. 100%. 100%. I really did a lot of legal work today about like Fia and Caller Daddy, that drink. Good. I mean, I've just. It's been a lot of information for me for the day. Okay. Well, another headline, Caroline Loveit, the press secretary, Donald Trump's press secretary, pathological liar extraordinaire, just overall toxic human being is out. She is leaving at the month's end and she recently had a baby. There's speculation on why she was leaving Rainow will explain one of the theories, but people are saying that she just wants to focus on her family, and maybe she's sick of lying and sick of being part of our crime and democracy just kidding. No, she's not. She really gets off on that. But I read a headline that said Trump kept calling her on maternity leave, big surprise there. So he wouldn't leave her alone and now she's going to focus on her family with her, whatever, 300-year-old husband who was friends with her dad, yeah. But there's another thing that had happened. Well, people are speculating that basically Trump and a number of members of people who work from they were in Turkey and they were all on this plane, they were worried that something like terrible was going to happen. And so allegedly, Trump sneaks off the plane in a catering truck, is escorted to another plane and all these other members of the, I don't know, his staff, just other dog shit, piece of shit, liars. Like, Caroline Loveit, we're left on the plane as a decoy and people are speculating that she quit because she was left on this plane as a decoy while he ran away and like some sandwich cart. This happens. I mean, this is a tale as old a time that political figures, people that are really famous are ushered away somewhere else in some other way. But people are saying, not always in a pointless war that they started. But yeah, totally. No, no, no, just like other reasons, you know. I don't know, it's hard for me to really think that like that would break the dam. She's seen him do such terrible stuff. I don't know why this would matter. Okay, well, we don't know who's going to replace her, but I have some options for you. I want to hear what you think. So I say this all the time, I miss Trump 1.0 staff every day. I miss that presidency compared to what it is now. Every dam is there. And so where there's actually people around him who had been in politics, who had somewhat of a conscience, some of them. So if you go to replace Caroline Loveit, put someone from Trump 1.0, here's my three. Okay. Sean Spicer. Okay. Never forget Sean Spicer. He's on dancing with the fucking stars. Okay. Kellyanne Conway. Never forget. Kellyanne Conway is the one who brought us alternative facts. One of the most damaging ideologies of the last decade. And the underlying reason for our political divide, Kellyanne Conway. Or Anthony Scare-Mochi. Anthony Scare-Mochi, you know, he had that he made a sound with his, with his mouth. Every time he opened his mouth and it made me want to vomit. I mean, it was almost worse than the stuff that was coming out of his mouth. I'm going to go D, not of the above, but I'm sure that we will be served somebody just to pick one. That was a fun question. All right. Okay. Okay. Anthony Scare-Mochi, he was fun on SNL. I will say that. But I think, I think I might go Sean Spicer. I know. I'm gonna walk you back. He wasn't good and he like cracks under pressure. And I just want to see that. So that's your fucking very kill for the-- Okay. I have been redirected and I'm going Sean Spicer. You can't beat me. Okay. Well, that is your snack, you guys. What you can find is that girls got to eat.com. Girls got to podcast Instagram and TikTok. I am Ash Hess on Instagram and TikTok. Raina. Raina Greenberg and Raina Greenberg.com for her fall tour tickets. I said I would get ZZoo in the shot. Let me just go grab him so he can say goodbye. I miss him. Do do do do. Here he is. Okay. I love a part. So you can watch full video on Spotify and YouTube and see ZZoo. Remember he's up for adoption with Wags and Walks. And we will see you guys Monday. Have a good weekend, guys. Bye. [BLANK_AUDIO]