The Smell You Can Lick

Good evening, gentle listeners or watchers and welcome to "Destractable" this episode. Bombshell Bob brings up bankruptcy, blows hard and investigates sensory imagination. West Wing Wade becomes slander man, fixates on the Sahara and steps on granny. Media mogul mark catches more controversy, consumes car, pumps with fist, suffers a friendosia and tongues feet from cutting to black to car symbiosis. It's time for the smell you can lick, now sit back and prepare to be distracted and enjoy the show. Hello and welcome back to MidiSakeClear's favorite podcast and if you don't know who that is, I'm not gonna explain it, my name is Bob and I'm your host and this is "Destractable". I'm hosting because I won the last one because the way this show works is, I mean the way this show works, regular show works, two people compete in one person host and whoever wins between the two competitors, they host the next one, unless they don't, which has happened before, but not a lot, but it can happen, but it won't, but it could, but I'm joined by today's competitors and future hosts. Mark and Wade. Hello, I'm Mark. I'm the other one. Hello, other one. I'm Dad. I'm Dad. I mean that's a set, so I've not gotten to utter in 25 years. Yeah, wait a minute. Whoa, we molly, man. Not quite the reveal in the last season here. I can't believe that's the bombshell for the last episode ever. I've been doing that a lot with James Laley, so sorry, just, it just leaks out. How do you cut the black in real life? Do you have like a curtain you carry around? Yeah, it's just a big blanket. You know the trick with the birds where you're like, oh, oh, and then you throw it up and you run away and then the bird is all, what the fuck? I say it with dogs, not birds, but I know what you're talking about. It's all the same. Baby's birds, ducks, it's all the same. They're all the same. Before we get into the main episode topic, we use small talk. How you guys doing? I've reached a funny new level of fame. What's so funny about it? Where every sentence I speak can be misinterpreted to make a headline for an article. Not that this hasn't happened before. Mark, why are you sparking so many controversies? What are you doing? Oh, man. I don't know. I don't know. So I get a text from Wes, you know, of Burning Tractor, the VFX company for Iron Long that did all that. And he tells me, hey, I know what you're talking about here, but I'm getting a lot of messages asking why you fired us on Iron Long. So for those that don't know, Wes is the owner of Burning Tractor, a company that I've worked with on VFX for all of the bigger projects I've done with Heist and Space, and now Iron Long. I was on a separate podcast called The Lemonade Stand with Doug Doug and his various friends of whose name I definitely remember. And this isn't a bad look here. They are now. He and the entrepreneur. Wait, Markiplier left his tractable to go to Lemonade Stand and then he burned a tractor and fired his VFX team. Yeah, that's pretty much it. That's the hard-hitting news we report here. Oh my god. See, the headline of this article is Markiplier ditched the Iron Long VFX company over budget and turned his own bathroom into a render farm with old servers from eBay, which is not what I said at all. What I said was we were subcontracting a VFX company to do some of the simulations for the blood and the opening sequence of the movie. The problem was the iterations that I needed because there were some translation differences between hiring them and what I would want say I want and what they would execute upon. The problem with simulations is they're incredibly computationally intense. They require a lot of hardware specialized for just doing simulations. It's not just about GPU power. It's about distributed CPU power. So the fidelity of the shot, it's like this is all me in I'm reading my own quote, which is in this article here. And I remember that that was accurate. That was just a quote because I did actually watch that and I somehow I'm remembering word for word what you said about that part. He said he fired his blood company and forced his fans to donate blood for his movie pretty much. While you were saying it, I was thinking, man, Markiplier complained so much about how much he fucking hated West. And he was so glad he fired those guys behind the scenes. So crazy. He's coming out. Yeah, no, I didn't I didn't see that that was being quoted like that. I think this counts as libel. Is this libel? Label is when it's done been written. Yeah. So saying that I ditch the VFX company, not only over budget, it's just such a ditch and genuous title is like, I feel my, you know, how I always sue literally anyone at any opportunity. I'm like, yeah, I heard you fired Amy then slept with the director's wife. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, libel. I mean, slander that one slander. Get him. Yeah, get me get me for the right one, man. Come on. I guess that one's true. So I'm going to grow a couple of extra arms coming to slander, man. Why is no one done that yet? That seems obvious. Wait, that's so obvious. Thanks. Thanks, man. I'm all the humorous. No, no. I mean, like, it's such a good idea. I feel like it should have been done at this point. Maybe it was. I don't know. So me whoever I stole it from, this is it's funny. I don't really mind because the benefit of having a YouTube channel is the ability to just like reach a lot more people than say an article ever could, but also the problem with that is that lemonade stand podcast, you know, all the words are there. But even if I say a big stream and say all the words, people can just pick up heart the words and do whatever they want, which is fun. Anyway, I didn't fire Wes. I want to be famous like that. That sounds great. Yeah. The main point was to get the hardware so that Wes and his team could use the hardware as many times as they needed. And all I would have to do is the power. So it wasn't that VFX jobs were lost. You know, I had that thought. I hadn't seen any of this, but I did watch most of the lemonade stand episode. And I was watching and I was like, this is like one of those things. They're going to quote him, but they're going to like cut it up or take like five words. And then there's going to be like gossip YouTubers or like headlines or something of people be like, Markiplier puts somebody on blast about their involvement in iron logs. I'm stupid shit. I mean, you don't say stuff that you're not like allowed to say, but you don't play the game that people play where normally in the interview like that, someone who's like a media trained professional in the industry would be like, oh, it's great. They're great to work with like they don't say anything, right? They say, well, they were asking questions and you were like, oh, it's so expensive. We had we read in the problems, but I learned a lot. Like you just said, like what happened? Wait, Markiplier went broke and knew nothing about movie making before he started. Yeah. There's that one, that one clip where you tell you about the, the money and you're like, and the part that goes back to the budget, like, oh, man, I'm so broke. Wait for that to get quoted. Like Markiplier goes bankrupt. Markiplier makes $24. Oh, fuck, I'm so fucked. Yeah. Yeah. So much money. Oh, my God. What a craftsman for making it. Thanks. Thanks. It's only up from here. That's fun. Hey, yeah. All press is good press. Right, Wes? I don't know, Wes, by the way. I've never talked to Wes. There you have. Oh, no, I have talked to Wes. You've literally been on set with him, but I don't know him like that. I don't know him to where I could be like, yeah, right, Wes, buddy. He did so good on space. I'm sorry, I had to fire him for iron. That's so tragic. Yeah, you know, hey, if he just got an ego and he got more expensive and I, you know, I can't have that. We already have a three-letter name on the podcast, too. We can't have more of them in our lives. I think the next headline is "Markiplier replaces VFX companies with real good AI." Yes. That's the move. That's what it is. It's secret plan for Mark to develop his own AI slot house. Think about how much money I can save, slash make, slash lose. How do you cackle and rich? Yeah, then everybody making AI stuff, only making money. It's great. They're all making huge profits, I think, as far as I've ever heard. Probably. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They're spending money. That's for sure. It's fine. It's gonna be fine. Huge profits. I've been slightly distracted. I'm trying to think of a good pun for Sahara, but bald. Don't remember why, but that's what my brain's been working on in case you guys are curious. What is Sahara from? Don't remember. When Mark mentioned hairline like an hour ago, don't know if we were recording at that point, but my breakfast before the episode, I think. The brain got completely locked in and I was like hairline. I'm like the Sahara bald. Hold on. And I've just been there this whole time. So you're just not participating in any of the rest of this. I've been participating. I just like I'm all my great part. The slander member, slander man. He came with slander man. I do remember all you did say slander man. Is that one of those random like you just a speaking spell and that just happened to come out like you get you take in information. Yeah, you pulled the cord landed on slander man pun. Wait is our monkey with a typewriter. I mean, yeah, that is a pretty fit description. The monkey's still bald. Sorry, Wade. Well, that's fun. I don't have much to say about that. I don't think I've ever got to encounter that sort of issue in my life. Yeah, but it's okay. I don't mind at all. I should just start saying more controversial shit just so I can get news outlets to misquote me. Markiplier co-host says Mark, that's your problem. I'll never have to deal with it. So you should. Distractable ended over spat over Markiplier's newfound fame. Jealous co-hosts could not. Anyway, but it's over whether or not Markiplier should have fired West. This is all distractable. Do you have any goofy headlines about your life, Wade? No, thankfully not. I was at a vet or a doctor's office every day of the week last week and I've kind of just done with that. It was exhausting and tiring and annoying. Were they tried to decide which one was supposed to treat you or? Well, the only one that treated me was a dentist. That went well. I stubble my teeth. It went pretty good, I think. Yeah, that's success, success, success. Yeah, well, I'll go into all the specifics because you know, medical and hippos and whatnot, not that I'm the doctor. So I guess I could share. But I won't. Anyway, it was just a long, bleh week. Prestige didn't do well with the anesthesia. So we had like two days of misery with him. And just a lot and then it's tax season. It's been a lot of not fun stuff. So in my free time I've been rewatching West Wing for some reason reading John Grisham. Still trying to finish that book I've only read periodically But I'm trying to finish that book so I can start dungeon crawler Carl about halfway through runaway during now I was gonna read more last night, but then my I have like one as little neck lights You could read within the dark. I didn't charge it so the battery died in the middle of like a really exciting chapter last night I just went to sleep angry if only you lived in a house with lights. Yeah, but I was comfortable and bad I was gonna be like turn on the bright light while Molly's sleeping. What did you do? Quietly in the pitch black room. You just wait. Just wait I have done that noise before I had a frustration at night and woken Molly up. So I do that sometimes actually That's very funny. That's very funny. That and playing a bunch of random Pokemon games. Oh, I 100% had berry berry I went through an achievement hunt that last night. Love that game. I finished dungeon crawler Carl at least all the books that are available Uh-oh. You've officially passed me. Well, you haven't finished all what where are you? I'm on the I'm on the last book right now I'm like I mean halfway through the last book that's currently out book seven or whatever I mean I am impressed by the author's ability to constantly make the stakes go No, it's fucking nuts It's considering where it started. I'm just like Oh, I think my favorite version of that is the transition from the end of the butcher's masquerade Into the beginning of the next because at the end of that book, you're like only shit Oh my god, and then you start the next one and you're just like Oh, oh my god Like it just keeps crazy I'll relate soon. You'll get there buddy. You wouldn't think that it Because like what the subject matter is. I mean even if the setting is as apocalyptic as it sounds Like he just is a really smart way of of escalating and there's a lot of complexity in there And I think that it's impressive. I like when the dungeon Brawl's like Star Wars opening crawls or like crawls like creepy horror movie at you crawls It's more like when they're trapped in the trash compactor on the detention level Hmm, and there's no three PO this time. Was it three PO or was it R2? Is the one actually shutting down all the trash compactors on the detention level? I think but three PO was there. That's true. I think he was talking to three PO on the thing And then R2 was the one actually plugged in three PO did carry the microphone walkie-talkie Whatever the fuck that was. Oh, we all lead fascinating lives don't we really They're dying R2. Yeah, that's what we're talking about. That's the one. Yeah, I just She's talking to three POs. I just want to make sure my brain is like and now we're in legally Troublesome waters. You did too good of an impression of that scene. Wade You get a segue point one of us does. Yeah, Wade. Yeah, I did I did wait. Yeah. Sorry. Wait. It was I uh No, you know what you're right. I misspoke mark you get a segue point. Wait. Hold on. No. I mean me me. Oh, you're the one You're the one who couldn't listen to your own name being said in a sentence where I said five words I was so distracted by mark thrashing around. I was trying to give another headline for him Wasn't thrashing this is just pumping my fist in victory, but I can I'm sitting and I only have so much mobility Yeah, but I can't see your full cutouts. That looks like you're just thrashing because you're just shoulders and ahead I just got the sudden urge to convert to standing mom. I'm gonna do it It only ever goes well. It's too dangerous. I can't I can't do that to myself. Oh never I actually don't think I can do that anymore since I moved offices Uh, I think if I did that I would actually just disappear from the call forever. I've tried to tell Molly I can't stand anymore, but she still makes me go places. Yeah, I don't know if that's gonna work. I appreciate the effort though Mark. It's the segue point. Yes Because Wade was trying to recall and then accurately did recall a quote from a movie look We're in the area of uh rehashing, right? This is this is where we are as the show is this there's nothing new under the sun anymore But I was talking to Mandy recently and we were talking more about a phantasia Just the thing that we've talked about on the show great Disney movie If you haven't seen the previous episodes a phantasia is you ever see that meme of where it's like there's a real apple And then there's like nothing and there's versions of the apple in between A phantasia means that a person cannot visualize things in their head. They have no minds. I I have complete a phantasia I don't see shit. If I close my eyes and try and imagine things I see like blackness and I got nothing I get no But we were talking about that because we've talked about that before and I find it really interesting because I think we Cover the spectrum from me being completely nothing to mark having really pretty vivid realistic ability to picture things And Mandy pointed out that that's one sense that your ability to see stuff and see things in your minds eyes like Interesting, but we have a bunch of other sense at senses sexes. We have a lot of sex since on this show But I want to talk about our senses I wanted to just sort of like do some non-scientific tests And talk to you guys about what level of if at all a phantasia or not a phantasia you have with other things Because I realized in talking about it with Mandy like I I'm a musician not as a career But I went to school to be a musician and I played a lot of music in my life. I don't hear shit either If I'm imagining like a piece of music that I know or like a song I like like it feels like I'm listening to it If I imagine the song I don't hear it. It's not like I'm playing the CD in my head But I imagine both of you guys if you're trying to imagine a song that you know and like you just do you hear it in your mind's ear? I mean, we've seen it with Wade of him bopping to Shakira We know every time you've got Shakira in your head. We see the little oh did I was just Inter-sandmaning right now. Tyler, you don't sue me. Yeah, I can it's harder to hear the instrumental I guess I can hear the lyrics very clearly like now. I'm gonna hold on. I'm gonna Shakira for a moment you guys talk We all know about your undying love for Shakira, but literally for me it's funny because like if I like you said Inter-sandman know that song I can sing that song mostly probably if I try and like hear the opening guitar part Where's just the guitar and the high-hat comes in I know the rhythm and I know how it sounds But in my head all I hear is my breath because I tend to like breathe in and out as I play to win instrument right? So when I'm playing music a lot of times I'm like I'm blowing on my instrument Mentally in a way and all I'm hearing is like my breath. So it literally sounds like So weird. It's fucking I've never thought about it until Mandy brought this up. It's crazy I feel like I'm listening to the song like I know how much I like that song and I feel like I feel the Yeah, I feel all the park. I can't fucking hear it. I don't hear anything. I hear my own stupid breath in my head I would love to hear the symphony of your breath in like a full orchestra Not even like the buzzing of the lips for like the too much This is my life man. This is my experience That reminds me of the South Park episode where they were doing the guitar hero thing They just brought one of the guitars and just like he can play bucket head without the game No literally I Appreciate why that joke is funny, but I was always kind of like yeah, that's what it sounds like But apparently other people could hear Theoretically could hear the song. Okay, so we're covering hearing first, right? Yeah, we can talk about whatever I have I want to cover all of the senses But can you guys if you were imagining Jeff Goldblum saying something Can you hear his voice say things like because that's a common thing is like oh if I'm reading something It's like oh, it's like I'm hearing it in his voice. Can you guys do that? Yeah Nothing Christopher walking. Yeah, I just pictured him in the cowbells get and I heard him talking I physically feel Christopher walking in that like I feel how I feel what I try and mimic his voice Not that I do a very accurate or pressured right, but what I think like if I was trying to have him talk in my head Didn't turn away. I'm like like I'm mouthing the words, but it's dead silence I think I repetition helps like I'm trying to think of like a conversation with my mom I'm like I'm having a harder time listening to my mom like imagining her voice than I am like something I've heard multiple times over like a song or a skit like those kinds of things I can pull back very easily But just like a random sentence or something like that's harder for me to form I guess I think I can do it, but it's harder to do than something I know I've heard and seen I have to like read words on that are on my screen to know exactly like oh there's that voice But what's weird is you guys know my impressions top notch. Yeah, only the best sure sure That's in my head. It's like perfect But if I tried to do this out loud, I mean is that just me deluding myself? Am I not as good at hearing it in my head as I think I am? Is the subconscious just a complete liar? I don't know if you've ever done this, right? But if you like if you imagined a Jeff Goldblum line or something right or if you imagine the like I need more cowbell sketch And you you hear in your head you hear Chris for walking like I put my pants on one leg at a time Whatever and then you play that exact clip. I feel like you have a Probably inaccurate enough judgment to where you could be like yeah, that's pretty it like it sounded like I thought it would sound It sounded like it hurt. I heard it in my head. I think the problem is that Doing an impression is not as straightforward as it seems Yeah, because we're physically constrained. I don't think it's that you can't hear the voices I think it's just really hard to recreate someone else's voice because you're because of the physiological components of it Also the way we hear things in our head head is different than how they come out of our mouths. 'Cause some of the impressions I do that I think are some of my best sound terrible out loud, but like the way I hear them, like, "Oh, that's so good." And then the ones I'm like, "Eh, that's okay." People are like, "That's such a good impression." I'm like, "Is it?" I was driving just around, okay, no more particular, but I was driving and I was lost in thought. And I had this strange thought that kind of gave me like shivers down my spine. And I went like, "Does the voice in my head sound like me?" Like I asked myself that. And then I was talking to myself in my head. I was hearing my own voice and I'm like, "Doesn't sound like me." Like if I was speaking out loud sound like me, I'm like, "Then who is it?" "Then who is in my head?" So I was like, "Freak myself on my drive." 'Cause I'm just like, "But then after that, I was like, "Oh wait, no, it sounds like me." But did it before, you know? Like, is that just it pretending now to sound like me? The other person in your head was like, "Oh wait, yeah, how do I sound like work now?" "Hello, everybody." "Is that what I sound like to you in your head?" "Always, man." You go back to the video and it's not even what I sound like there. Ooh, we've re-budgeted. No, in my head, it's a perfect impersonation, honest. - That little head bob, that's exactly right. - Yeah, yeah, with my not-face camera. Hello, everybody. - Yeah, well, the other one that I think is interesting and we're talking about "Dudgeon Crawler Carle." So this is a good thing to focus on. I never thought about this until I started getting into this specific book series because the audio books for "Dudgeon Crawler Carle" are very popular. And it's because the voice actor who performs the audio books does a crazy good job. Almost all the voices except for a couple exceptions are from the same guy and the voices are wildly varied and very good. And I kept seeing people being like, "Oh, I love the audio book." That's not how I thought donut would sound. I have a totally different voice for whatever. And I'm like, I didn't think they sounded like anything. Like what the fuck do you mean? That's not how they sound to you. They sound like they sound when he sounds them in my head. I don't hear, but apparently people, when you're like reading or whatever, you make a voice. Do you guys do this? - This ties into a very interesting thing that I think can finally relate some of this a-fantated and not and it just made me realize, I have two modes of reading, right? I have a mode of reading where I am sounding everything out and I am hearing the voices and it's slower. It is just more involved and it's like, I'm, you know, I can't say that it's helping vividly imagine anything but sometimes I'm reading the words in my head as I'm doing it, right? And then when the character get there, it can be their voice. The other mode of reading is there is nothing happening as I'm reading it is pure just comprehension. That's when I'm moving fast. That I think paints the better picture of things happening but less about the voices. It like turns into this different thing or sometimes it's just like, I'm just comprehending because I'm like, yeah, I want to get through this section because it's like for some reason or another, I like my attention lapses and I'm just like zoned out. And I am understanding everything but it's not translating to everything there. So I think actually I'm going to lump that middle one with the vividly just to the first one because it is slower and it's like taking your time and it's like, oh, I want to really save her every word here. And then the other one is just pure comprehension. I don't have any imaginations associated with it. It is just word go in, it does not get transcribed. It is just the information of it goes into the ether and it's darkness. - You feel like you comprehend less when you're reading, I don't know, sort of creatively or whatever when you're enjoying it or is it just like slower? - I honestly don't know 'cause I haven't taken a test between the two. I think it's probably about the same but one is faster, much faster, which might explain why you're so quick-witted is because if you don't have to translate it into another layer of imagination, then it can go like, so boom, I think that there is something about that when people are really good at what they do and really tuned in to what they need to make happen. It's unconscious, it's instinctive. And I think maybe passing through that instinctive layer removes any of the conscious imagination in front area. - This is a thing that we've done. We have together, the three of us have done improv comedy in a lot of different content. We do it on this show, but we've done it in a more traditional sense in person on stage where we're building, we're trying to build a scene, we're trying to do a sort of traditional improv cut. When we're doing that in person, are you, we're on stage and someone is like, "Oh, welcome to my ice cream shop." In your head, are you like, here's the ice cream. Like, this is the counter, here's the shop. Are you like crafting, are you imagining that into reality and like merging whatever something you're imagining with what we're doing in the scene in a way? - Yeah, that's how I keep track of like, physically where things are. Like if we use a broom, then we set it down. I'm like, there's the broom. - That would be so helpful. - Yeah, it's not perfect. You know, it's not like I'm looking at a VR headset and seeing stuff lying around, but it's like a quick sketch of like the area will yes. - But like if you look back over your, like if we're doing something and you look back over your shoulder and you're like, "That's where the broom is," or whatever, you have like some imagery of it or something. - Not perfectly, not always, but like yes to some extent. The important things in the scene that we need to keep track of, like whenever I do a good, there's obviously times where I'm like, "Oh crap, I just stepped on grandma. I forgot that's where she was in the scene." But like if I'm doing a good job on that particular scene, then yeah, I'm like, "Yes, that's the broom. Here's the ice cream stand. There's the wood beams and there's the sign that says ice cream." Like I see those things in the scene while we're doing it. They're like rough sketch layout versions of it. - I can see that that would be really beneficial when we're doing. - Oh man, immensely. Can't imagine not having it. - Oh, you do, you do improv better than any of us. Yeah, like you can't talk. Oh, you, you can't have all the benefits. - Yeah, but it's like one line. - I'm just, I might as well be standing in the middle of the space, not interacting with anything. And everyone else around me is doing shit. And I'm just like, "Ah, I can't see. So I don't know what we're doing right now." Like, ah, that would be, that would really change how that feels to me, I think. I suspect, but that's really interesting. - Yeah, we did a scene one time. I remember Ethan was like mining. And I was like picturing him mining something. Like I even saw a point where he like looked at like, I saw the rock break and fall that he hit with the pickaxe. And I was like, "Oh, that's cool." Like, yeah, there's moments where I get really into it. And then there's moments where I'm like, kind of half there because my brain's not functioning. I'm so worried about what I'm gonna say that I kind of miss what other people are putting down. So there's definitely, as a not professional at it. I mean, there's definitely moments of, all that I'm fully in. And there's moments where it's like, I can't keep up what's there. - Yeah, I think also it can be a detriment sometimes because if we're so caught up in the vivid imagination of things, we're not focused on what's actually happening 'cause we're trying to like juggle like, okay, the counter was over there and he wiped that and he was like, what did he just do? - Oh no, yeah. So it can slow things down, much like with the reading, it does slow things down. And in the middle of a scene isn't a time to go around and look, I'm enjoying this, I'm savoring this every word. What? Oh no. - Oh no, it's my turn to talk. - To go back to the books part, I think I don't consciously like make environment voices for people. But if there's like a movie adaptation or show adaptation or something I've read and it's not at all what I guess I imagined. I noticed that more. If it's close enough, I'm like, okay, that's fine. But there's been, I can't think of an example I thought my head, but there's been certainly times where I've seen like a show or a movie and someone talks is like, I don't imagine like the book of Mice and Men, you know. Of course for walking, played Lenny's like, I tend to rap, it's George. It's like, that is not what I imagine Lenny sounding like, I can't get into the movie because that character's so not what my brain thought he would sound like. I don't appreciate it whenever it's more like what I expect or whatever it's the opposite or very different than my brain's like, wrong, wrong, can't get into this movie, can't get into this movie, wrong voice, bad voice. Bad voice, you know what the bad voice. That's so funny. I've always thought people were just being ridiculous where they see a movie and they're like, that character's all wrong. That's not how Batman would talk and that's not how he's supposed. And I'm like, this is the one movie of this. He looks like he looks in the movie I feel like. But there, you know, they have read the comic books, they have read the non-comic regular books, whatever they have these images. I don't have them, Rob. I'm easy going. I guess that's why I'm so casual. I am vengeance. Well, we wandered away a little bit, but so you guys don't have any more or less a Fantasia as applies to audio stuff. I don't think so. I could pretty well. Nah, yeah, I can play pretty much whole songs and I have about the same. I think it's hard to hear the instrumental in the lyrics at the same time. I kind of have to focus on one a little bit more than the other. There's some parts where they overlap, but if I'm focused on the words, it's hard to hear the music. But then like, as soon as like gripping your pillow tight, that's like, when I hear like the drum drop. What is it? What song is it? Interesting, man. Biting your pillow hard. Flipping your pillow to the cold side. Mr. Slandman. Well, I don't know if any of these are gonna be different then. I guess I was curious if it was like all the, so far, we're all the same. No one's the avatar of senses in their heads. I'm willing to bet. I know, maybe Mark is. Mark seems to be the strongest of us with the different types of bending we've discussed so far. But all right, next one, smells. Nothing. This is where I think I actually have a fan noja, no fan tape, noes fan tasia. Oil, fact, or Asia. I could not tell you what a thing smells like to save my life. I don't have strong smell memories. Some things will be like smell, and I'll be like, oh, I've smelled that before. I really, truly don't have a smell, smell, genation. I hate that word, but it's very accurate. A handful first. I can go a rose and gasoline. I can kind of get the scent of if I imagine. But other things, I'm like, okay, garlicy mashed potatoes. I can kind of get the garlic, like a really strong garlic. But like, I'm just trying to like a steak. I'm like, come on, give me something. Like, no, nothing's really coming there. I sometimes wonder if I have a sense of smelling. I go like, no, I can smell that. Okay. Oh, yeah, so conjuring a smell is tough. But what about if you, I don't know, you don't. gasoline is kind of what what if it's like the smell of your house growing up or the smell of a grandparents particular cologne or perfume or something. I'd have to actually smell it. Yeah, I'd have to actually smell it. Shit. But if I actually smell something, it's like a smack in the face still. Like I do have a strong connection to it memory wise. But I don't know if that changes whether I'm nose ventajic or not. Smells a tough one. I don't have a lot of smells that I'm like yes, I can I can bring that out of nowhere. So like if I smelled that smell, yeah, I'd remember it probably or be like, oh man, this reminds me of like bacon at my grandparent's house when I'd wake up and it was cooking. I smell it. But like right now I'm like, come on, bacon smell, bacon smell is just not coming. I can't conjure anything. Like even if it bad smells like just poop straight poop. I can't smell and I'm grateful for that. No, that is nice. That is nice. I'm like can be food marks like poop. Come on, poop. No, I'm saying a strong smell like a bad one because you know negative memories are stronger than positive one sometimes. So it's like I don't think that I can conjure that smell in my imagination. I wouldn't even know the capability of doing that. I wonder if people can do that. That crosses a barrier to me like where if you're trying to imagine of visual or if you're trying to hear something, that's a thing where like it's not completely tangible. I mean audio is sound waves. So you are, but like when you're trying to imagine a smell or a taste which we'll also talk about next. It is a thing where it's like it's a chemical thing. It's not like your body conjures the correct chemicals and then you smell it. It is like, I don't know. Yeah, I can't tell if I if it's like the sensation of the smell or the smell because sometimes like you know your nose gets a tickle if you smell something like like the gasoline. It's like it's right there. It's almost like a word of the tip of your tongue. It's like the gasoline's right there, but I can't quite smell it. I can rotate the gasoline in my head. I can hear the sound of it lugging into the car. I can picture me pouring gas all over myself at the pump, but I can't smell it. Now imagine that, but all your other senses and then you're just like me. I can't relate to you. No, I can't relate. Can't imagine that. Couldn't be me. All right. Well, this one's pretty closely related, but then so let's also talk about taste. Is it any different for taste for you guys? Can you conjure up a taste of a thing and have that like? I think this would be like there's a vague outline of it because if I imagine sour, like if I imagine biting into a lemon, I'll start salivating like so clearly there is it and my tongue will start to feel weird. Like if I think of that warhead video that we did, I'm like, I already got it. It's already building up. So there's something there. I can vaguely be like, I think I know what turkey tastes like. I think I can kind of imagine that that flavor. There's also texture to it, which is a hard thing to separate out. Yes, I'm with you on that one. Yeah, texture I can picture vividly. That's that's no problem at all. The taste though is like vague ethereal, but it's there, but it's less concrete. Yeah, the other senses are coalescing and making it hard. Like I like biting into an apple. I can feel it. I can feel the juice. I can almost taste or smell it, but like it's all the other's like the sound of the crunch. Like all of that is there, but like the taste and the smell both are kind of alluding me. Again, garlic. I mentioned like the garlic mashed potatoes. I can feel them going into my mouth like even like occasional lump in it where it wasn't fully mashed like all that's there. And there is the sensation of garlic. I can't tell if it's the taste, the smell neither both. It's too lumped in with the other ones and the texture is a big part of that biting into like a skinle versus a steak versus a bread roll. There was a place called a grand finale and since then I closed down and went to a handful of times in the past. And they had these really great rolls. Like I love their bread. It's right there going into my mouth and tasting and it's been gone for like five years, but I just can't I stop right short of being able to enjoy it in my imagination. It's like it's going into my mouth but gone. This is a random tangent and I thought of this really fast study, but the rolls. I have only been to the grand finale once Costco's in-house yeasted dinner rolls. You have to buy them in like a huge fucking bag, but those are close and they're insanely good. I got them randomly this holiday season because we hosted a bunch of people. Tell me that name again. Like if you just go to Costco and go to the bakery, they just sell huge bags and I think they're just called dinner rolls. It's just like the homemade at Costco made in-house dinner rolls. They're like yeasted dough. They're fucking amazing. We hosted a bunch of family over Thanksgiving and Christmas this year. Guys where every person who was here was where did you get these rolls? Did you make these? No, it's just huge fucking ten pound bag of rolls from Costco, but they're really good. Anyway, random thing and you have to buy a whole lot of them. So it's kind of like you can freeze them maybe or whatever, but it's kind of a pain. It's right there. Like the ripping apart a little something in the center, a little circle in the center. I can see the butter melting on top. I just want to taste it again. Try the Costco ones. You'll have to eat a lot of them. They're real good. There is this strange association that we've talked about this podcast before, whereas if you can imagine yourself licking something and you know exactly what it would feel like to lick it, not so much the taste, but just the texture. I don't know why that is so strong, because if the taste is not that strong, but pure texture is, like is that just tying into the whole body's ability to sense like touch? Mark, you get another segue point. My brain did something horrible where I got hair like looking hair sensations. No, yeah, that's the next one. That's called tactile imagery and it is different from smelling and tasting. It is specifically the texture and it's involved in eating because you can feel any part of you that has nerve endings. You could feel a tactile sensation if you lick something or touch it with your hands or whatever. This is one where I think I actually am not a zero of all the things that I can't, like you said, wait, it's like dramatic things. Like if I imagine licking a basketball or hair, I can almost taste the rubber. It's right there with the basketball. I can feel this is the one where it's like it grosses me out. This is why I'm sort of sensitive to textures and food. This is the one thing where it will gross me out where it's like if I imagine the texture of a thing I really didn't like that I ate or that I had trouble, I can summon that a little bit and it can I can get that reaction where it's like queasy, whatever. You brought me to Styrofoam just now. I'm not happy about it. Yeah, I'm really glad I don't hate Styrofoam because I could totally probably summon the texture enough, but I could kind of do it guys, but it sounds like it's really vivid for you guys. Like it's crisp sharp textures. Pretty strong. It's pretty strong. It's to the point where if I imagine all the textures that I really, really don't like touching, it just makes me physically uncomfortable like what you're going to say, and especially like the felt roof of an old car. I'm literally fidgeting with two little pieces of felt right here on my desk because I think it's funny because it's fuzzy. What is wrong with you? Well, look, these are like, they're like little feet you put on furniture, right? They're just like, Yeah, I know. I get it. I'm licking them right now. I know what they are. I'm not licking them. Wait. I don't like that. No, that's not good. Yeah, see? See? I love the listeners perspective of some of what we see. Oh, that tastes so much worse than the texture is. What is that? A test like glue. Markiplier, licks, feet, live, undistractable. I did not do that. No, it's not true. Slender. Slender, man. Is there something wrong with felt you weirdo? Psychopath? Who doesn't like felt that? Not as bad as cotton or styrofoam, but it's not great. Like, it's felt and velvety texture, yeah. Cotton balls are concerned. Hate it. Last night I sliced my hand open with one of those like Reynolds wrap little serrated edge things. Like I can feel my thumb just running along the edge lightly and I can kind of feel the cut again and the cut parts are not pleasant. But like, I can I can feel those textures. I can feel the texture of the actual aluminum foil or plastic wrap, like texture to me comes very easily in my imagination. Can any of us imagine positive textures or certainly the shitty textures that we hate that we can. Oh, like ice cream. I can imagine the like creamy, delicious texture of ice cream. That's a good one, right? We can all agree. Yeah. I like shakes with chocolate chips in them sometimes. Like a chocolate shake with hot fudge and like chocolate chips. I can feel the chocolate chips coming through the straw. Or like the first lick of like a sucker. Like you get you unwrap a tootsie pop and when it's all it's dry and you're like, um, the little edge, the little lumpy edge that you go and hit. Yeah. And sometimes there's like chunks out of that or there's it's a whole different again mashed potatoes or steak or apple like all those textures are there. I think this literally the only category where I feel like I'm not just a straight up zero. So you qualify as human. I think if you can do that. If you're all zeroes across the board, you're not a human. But if you have any imagination in any of your senses, then you can't. Oh, thank God. I made it because I don't think this next one counts for me either. I don't even know if this is a sense. Propropriation. Prop, anyway. Yeah. Proprioception. Motor imagery, movement imagery. I've always thought those silly wouldn't. There are things right where it's like, I'll teach you how to golf. Now envision your swing and your swing. And I'm like, I just fucking wagon my arms around. How is this going to help me actually golf? Is that do you guys if you're imagining you're doing something, especially if it's a thing you know how to do? Do you feel like you have a good vivid imagery of whatever chopping an onion? It's not 30 FPS. You know, if that makes any sense. I'm not getting full frames in my imagination. There's like missing sections, but I can see a swing, but like it's not as smooth just like, oh, yes, there it is. There's pieces missing, but yes, this ties into something that I experiences in my childhood when I was going to sleep. Oftentimes, I would imagine my whole bed was swinging and I could feel the like myself swinging. I could feel like my center of gravity shifting even if like I'm not moving. So I think that ties into that because it's like the body position thing. I stopped doing it for a while and it got like I lost the ability to do it for a little bit But then you know a few years ago when I was trying to um was doing my my polyphasic sleep bullshit I'll be like okay I gotta I gotta force myself to take this 45 minute nap. I only have 45 minutes to sleep I gotta get sleep so I would start to do that again I'll be like I wonder if I can still do that and it was really weak, right? It was weak at first But the more I did it the more I Practice did the more I got better at it. So it's one of those weird things where I think actually you can get better at that one Because then eventually that evolved into something else I talked to you guys about which is where I was like Trying to find these meditations of what I would do is I was like I would imagine myself sitting in a chair I could feel my arm lift and there was this wooden bowl of like wooden spheres, right? So I pick up a ball and I put it in another bowl And I'd be counting as I did that I could feel the tactile like less about the wood but more about my position in My trying to separate my clearly laying down body and me moving an imaginary arm And it was it was the stronger that that connection got that quicker I was able to just like slip into sleep weirdly enough. I don't know why that's really funny I never connected that to that you were really imagining the motor I used that I specifically that scenario of like sitting at the table and moving a thing from a bowl to another bowl I used that that does help me like fall asleep and or sort of meditate when I'm trying to focus and like quiet Everything in my mind, but I don't at all. It's not about the sensation of the motor skills part of it It's entirely about like Using it as enough of a focal point to or captures my attention But it's not enough of an activity that it requires any serious imagination or thought because it's you know It's equivalent to like counting sheep or other things that people do and that come up examples of that But part of it is that you feel the motor imagination and that's like what makes it call me Yeah, and because I think it's like you're stepping out of your physical form into your mind Which is where you are when you sleep. So it's kind of helps that right and it's something you can get better at I do think that it weirdly is the more you practice that one you can improve that maybe you can improve the other ones But I don't know that was actually kind of my follow-up question on this one too That you can get better at the imagining do you feel like if you were trying to learn something if you were trying to learn How to chop an onion or how to cast a line with a fishing pole? Do you feel like if once you've done it a little bit and you're imagining it? Are you practicing in that and does that help you get better at the actual activity? If you're does it translate back and forth or is it just that you can get better at imagining the sensations? There are scientific studies that actually have shown that this that that shadow boxing improves boxers performance That if you're doing martial arts there's certain athletes that if they visualize the Thing that they're trying to do their performance does increase like the the science study that I saw was set up in a way Where it's like you had a control group of people that were actually practicing and you had a control group of people that weren't doing Anything no preparation and you had a the test group which was they were only imagining doing the task and so they had a control of nothing in a control of actual practice and where the Imagination group was actually closer to the practice group not to the level of the physical practice But they were far away from the control do nothing group. They just showed up and they did it They were still trained athletes to do the the task But it's like the certain metric that they were trying to improve did not get better or maybe they were an athlete I can't I'd have to look at the study But this this does exist That's weird because boxing as soon as you said boxing for whatever reason my I did a good job of like I almost fully zoned out to Visualize was like a full-day dream moment But I was like okay. I'm in a ring It's pure darkness and like ronda rousey standing across trying to punch me in the face and I could see it And the swing went right left but but to the left of my head that was like oh I hear the like as sheep like that was close Like I could hear that and feel like the almost breeze and it's like okay But that was like let me try to visualize more okay now there's a crowd There's camera flashes. I'm adding a bit more to it now. There's more noise and like I actually kept building And it went pretty well. That was that was more frames in my Imagination as I was moving and dodging and whatever. I wasn't swinging back and her fists kind of become acme acre like the glove Just kind of launched at me and she was still far away So wasn't perfect But like it was building into something more and more interesting and there were more sensations like the crowd making noise and the Wushing while yeah, so I I was able to build a planet there which was cool trying to think about the senses I'm sure I've done that I've just never consciously thought about the process of building the scene in my mind. I think that To tile that together like what you're saying is since I've started doing these like movies and stuff There's a big part of directing I think that is like visualizing the shot right getting better at imagining what that what that is I don't think that my imaginations are any more vivid or clear But there is a level of practice where it's like I've seen more camera angles I've seen more lens options I've seen more positions where it can be I know the difference between like a probe now So I can apply those to my imagination and at the very least I can hold it in my head longer Because my biggest problem is I can imagine things are a song But I can't play it all the way through because I'll it'll shunt to a different thought pretty quickly So concentration I think and that kind of meditation of the focus in that space and in that state is the practice that you can do And the way that you can improve besides just experiencing new things I think that the Pro-priot ofception is one that you can actually tangibly get better at I don't know why that would be But I think because in my experience as a child I did a lot more and then I fell out of it I was worse at it and then I got better at it You're out my ass conjecture would be it's because that's one you can immediately Feel in real life Like if you're trying to get better at that But it's with smell or it's with imagining objects that you're like seeing You might you'll you have to have it in front of you right if you were trying to practice If I'm trying to get better at picturing an apple and I have an apple And so you're like don't look at the apple look at the apple Don't but when it's your body when it's a physical motion like you can you may be not even doing it But the the pathways in your brain of like and now I'm jumping now. I'm moving in this way Like it's a constant connection that you have you don't need a thing to look at or a thing that you're smelling or hearing To like practice You're constantly switching back and forth between like I'm imagining what it might feel like And now I'm I'm getting the real sensation of like trying to figure Fire these nerves in this way or whatever like it's I imagine that has to do with it Because almost other the other senses is like you're sensing a thing that's outside of you in some fashion Maybe I can get better at it. It's interesting to me that smell and taste are the definitely the weaker two of all the ones we've talked about Which is funny because smell is supposed to be like the oh, it's the your all factory is your strongest Side-to-memory is your strongest thing, but I guess that doesn't mean that it's a thing you're good at imagining inherently in the same way I've seen some kind of like MRI functional MRI scans that um show that pathways of like smell compared to a dog So like a smell for dogs ties almost everywhere into their brain like the visual center is the the you know the memory centers stuff like that Whereas for humans it really doesn't go very far it doesn't tie into all the other parts of the brain Whereas like vision does it bounces through the entire like you use your eyes are in the front the vision processors are in the back and it transverses through the entirety of it I think similarly with audio like it there's there's much more brain activity in those senses than Smell I don't know about taste probably similar which is weird concerning how much humans like food. Oh, yeah, smell and taste are linked, right? So that makes sense that they would all of a similar path. Oh, there was one more thing For the proprietor session. I wonder if this has to do with why people have a really interesting ability to kind of become The vehicle they're piloting because when you're driving you just kind of I don't know It's not like you become it, but you you you get integrated in it where you subconsciously can feel the the the cars Movement and you kind of like personality wise people have big trucks not me of course But people have big trucks is really guy look how big I am, you know Is that what that's about wait? Is that a sensation that you both of you guys identify with where you feel like if you're in the driver seat in some way You're like becoming the vehicle because I exclusively feel like I'm in the driver seat And I'm piloting the thing and I have an accurate perception of my car because I know how big it is and how wide it is But not at all do I feel connected to it like you're describing it feels like I'm driving the thing and together where a team In the car is always separate for me and it feels like a thing. I'm using I wouldn't say specifically But I can't remember where I was reading this is more just like other observations of other people for these Like things, but there also is that trans like state where you lose all perception and the car is still going in the right direction and not Crashing you have made exits. Oh, yeah, were you like zone out all of a sudden you're just five miles further Specifically what you said that triggers it is like how connected people are to what their car Is and how that makes them feel like the joke about oh, we must have a small penis because he's got a huge truck or whatever I've always felt like the car I have or like I had a motorcycle in college I always thought the motorcycle was coolest shit And I knew that I looked like I was huge like I'm this big tall fat dude on this motorcycle I looked like I'm a like a clown on a tiny motorcycle I did not give a shit because the thing was cool the car the motorcycle is cool right now I'm really like my car like I'm I miss my Subaru uh, but the car I have currently is a really nice car I think it looks awesome. I do not think it makes me look cool I think I look like a huge dweeb when I'm driving along singing the system of a down in my BMW but the car's cool as shit. But like if people feel like their identity merges with it somehow, like that makes a lot of sense because people get obsessed with like how their car makes them look or feel and it like becomes a part of their personality. Like jeep people become jeep people when they get a jeep. Never understood that, but it's a whole phenomenon. - We get their ducks, gotta give a duck away. You see another jeep, put a duck on it. - That makes a lot of sense. But I've never felt that in that way or anything. - I wouldn't say I feel too strong. - I'm curious what the subreddit's gonna say about all this. This is a whole point of this episode. I just wanna put this out there and then I'm gonna read all the comments that the subreddit leaves 'cause I wanna know what all these different people have to say about these things. But that's really interesting. - I mean, you can feel your car. Like you get to know your car, right? So you can feel the bumps in the road. You can tell when something's kind of off with the car 'cause you get used to the way it's supposed to feel. But I've never felt like the car and I have become one symbiotic being or anything. I can't feel like I've felt that merging. Plus the internet tells me I still don't have a car so I wouldn't know that feeling anyway. - Yeah, someday you'll get one and then you'll be able to talk about this. - One day. - Feel bad for you walking everywhere. - All right, don't mind it. - I see how that, I see how that happened. I see how that's a point, buddy. - Thanks, Bob. - Hey, I didn't do it. And that's not fair to you. That was funny. - I see now I can picture the scene from where the pulp fiction where he's holding the pocket watch and talking to little Bruce Willis. - Well, this was fun. I love when we do episodes where we're just talking about a thing that applies exclusively to me. I did give you points, though. - Everything I feel like it applied more to us 'cause we could visualize and experience more. - No, no, it's all about Bob. - I hope everyone finds it interesting, but I found it very interesting, which is all I care about. No particular order. Wade, you earned a segue point, but it's crossed out. You earned a mom point. Can't remember why. You earned a point for your impressions. You earned a point for bad voice. You earned a point for not being able to smell at all. You have medium taste. You have medium tactile. You can sort of imagine your motor stuff and then you're walking everywhere, leaving you with a total of nine points. Mark, you earned a point for being so famous. You earned the real segue point. You earned the voices in your head point. You earned a reading comprehension point. You earned also no smell, medium taste. Another segue point and then a good tactile sense point and then you earned a point for vivid motor imagery, which leaves you a total. Wait, what? I have also nine. Wait a minute. Hang on, let me count this again. - Why is that so outrageous, right? - I should have been counting. - Okay, you both have nine points. I don't know. I just felt like I said a lot more stuff for Mark. - Yeah, it seemed like it. It seemed like he had more things listed under the point. - Yeah, man, I feel like I'm being treated fairly here. - Wait, you just did not nearly as good as Mark. I can't believe you're tied. - I just felt like Mark performed a lot better, but actually it's tied. - It's great. That way I'll feel that way. - Go with a congrats. You exceeded expectations. Isn't that what you want? - I don't feel as good about it as you think I should. - You should feel great. You should be really proud of yourself, buddy. - I think you just don't want to see an even number here. - I would love not to see an even number here. - How many wheel spins will there be? - Look at that. It's gonna be three again. - Hey, all right. It all comes down to this. - Who would have guessed that? - Seriously, though. - Three, three, three, two, okay. Well, there's four twos in a row. - But there's two threes. - And one of those. - Yeah, suspicious. - Suspicious. And not at all statistics. - Next constitution, we will have a suspicious be a trigger word for something. - Oh, I got yelled at by someone on stream. They were like, you guys said unfair twice in this episode. And no one noticed it. And I was like, oh, well, that's part of the rule. We have to notice it. That's part of the rules, everybody. If no one catches it, if you don't get mad, I call unfair on the audience. - Oh, it's unfair that they keep forgetting how the rules were. - Well, I guess we have to get a meaningful head, a meaningful coin toss before we have to decide what it means. - We're all looking for a meaningful head. - I think that they shouldn't be able to ever get mad if an unfair is not caught. And if we go heads down, it'll be there. They are allowed to get double mad. (laughing) - All right, well, I'm sure nothing bad will happen from this coin flip. - Mm-hmm. - Oh. - Oh. - I got a heads. No, wait, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, I got tails. I got lion-ass. - Oh, no! - Oh, god. (laughing) - Wait, so that means. - The audience is allowed to get double mad. - Oh, yeah, Mark wins if we get all heads. But we got all tail. Now, by sure this is tails, yeah, 'cause the lady is heads. - Why don't you get a coin with actual heads and tails on it? - Mm-hmm. - 'Cause this one has a lion and he has a tail and that's tails enough. But it's not, 'cause I never remember. - So if we miss an unfair, now I guess we have to be punished for it. - Good thing this is the last episode. - I think the audience gets to decide what the punishment should be. - So if we miss an unfair and the audience catches it, the moderators need to make a thread on the subreddit and maybe the top comment will be, well. - All right, let's hold on now. Let's not give 'em too much power. - That must be some discretion. Now, if I've learned anything about the internet, it's that you should never use the top comment for anything of value. - How about we let it'll be the top two comments or three and we get to veto. Like, we have to pick which one. But, you know, that way, if there's two options, three seems not, that's two loose. Two would be, that way, they can't just make a joke, top one. - Yeah, but what does the top two comments are the guys in the podcast and the guys doing episode completely naked? Like, I don't want to do either of those 'cause this is one, one off kind of thing. Maybe we could make three, I don't know. - What if we each get a veto? So we have three vetoes and we just keep going down. - Or we do nothing and say that it's closed, say. - No, the coins have spoken. If we don't honor the coins, none of this means anything. - Next council distract, but we're getting rid of the coin. - I don't think that's gonna, I love the coin. The coin is my favorite part of the whole thing. - I love the coin, the coin's great. - We might need to change the word 'cause apparently we say unfair a lot and then don't notice it. But, so we, that's, is that seem like a deal? We each get one veto. Like, the vetoes are emergency escape patches. We're not supposed to just all veto to get, but if there's three things that are like, they have sex and wait 'cause Bob and whatever. Like, we can, it's up to the audience to come up with serious punishments. This is a, this has a ripple effect. So wait, does it punish all of us since we all would have missed the unfair? It would be an arbitrary new rule, I think, that we have to apply or it's straight punishment or something else, but it's every time we would miss it. Oh, as long as we don't look at the subreddit, that's not real. But they can't defend you if you don't look at it. - What I'm gonna add to the bonus point wheel is, you get a point if you were the one who claimed unfair in the episode. Oh, sweet, awesome. It's completely unbiased, it just so happens. That mark is the one who did that in this episode. - Hey. - But we all have the chance to claim unfair whenever we so choose. - It's so weird hearing the word. Every time you, oh, oh, you said it. - Unfair, unfair, get out of your system. Boy, it's unfair, unfair, unfair, unfair. - It's unfair, unfair, unfair, unfair, unfair, unfair, unfair. Anyway, we got three spins and I'm sure that the subreddit won't do anything that will make us regret this and inevitably have to stop following this procedure because they're gonna ruin it because the internet's not allowed to have nice things. - They should feel better, I already regret it. - I regret nothing. - All right, spin number one. (upbeat music) - Bald? - Hurry, record holder for most points. - Someone posted a spreadsheet of the points recently. - Oh, it was posted like yesterday. - Yeah, yeah, wait a minute. - Most points in a single episode? - Current record holder is Bob, but whether or not you wanna apply the host rules to that second place would be me, third place is Wade, for most points total, at least I metled, I guess. - I'm gonna say, I don't get it. I'm gonna give it to Mark. - All right, yes. - Wade, you have 572, I have 649. Bob has 666 and a half. - All right, no more points for me. Leave it right there, everybody. - I must be too generous with points. That must be why I'm so far behind. I'd give all a little more points. - You really are. I would say that you give out more points than Mark and I do generally speaking. - Mark is stingy. Mark will have episodes where it's like five to seven. - Well, yeah, okay, you're right, you're right. - Which isn't wrong. - Mine are like 52 to 48. - There's no established scale for that. That's just how we've all, Wade will give out like 30 points in episode. I used to give out way more than I do now. Earlier on in this book here, I got episodes where it's like, Mark has 36 and Wade has some other joke number. - I just have this whole bag of points I bought, and I guess I just feel like I should use them before they expire. - That expired point, that dates a lie. You have to listen to that. - Oh, no. - Oh, oh, interesting. - Why? - Hey, click View Stats real quick. You've had some really bad wheel luck lately, Bob. - You gotta be fucking kidding me with this. - Six for Sudden Death, that's pretty, man. - Sudden Death has hit six times, which makes it tied for third, fourth. - All right, it's okay. - That's so unlikely. - Listeners are up seven to five over viewers. - I have it scribbled on the back of my notebook. It's not, holy shit, I just gotta cramp in my head. - Yeah, 'cause we had two, we had two add tens. - Currently, I have it written down that the winner's wheel is supposed to be at 28%. - Mark, Wade, or one min show. - (sighs) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) - No, no, no, no. - Oh my God. - Oh my God. - Jesus God. (laughing) - I mean, I wasn't worried I could do it. - It's okay, only immediately 2% gets added. - Yeah, what do we add? Is it 2%? Isn't it 6? - I thought it was 2% which ended up being like six points. - I thought it was two, because it used to hit a lot more. And then now we've gone out of our way to make sure it never hits. - All right, I'm gonna say 2% and I've documented. Arch 3rd, 2026, 30%. - Wade wins and nothing else needs to happen. And that's the end and let's stop threatening me with one man shows. Congratulations, Wade. Mark, would you like to get your loser speech? - Listen, the wheel speaks the truth, but you know who speaks harder truth the coin. So I know it was my fault for calling this on you guys out there, but hey, remember who I am. (laughing) - You don't remember, check the headlines. They always tell the truth about him. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, remember me? Don't know everybody, don't know everybody. - Thanks, Mark. Wade, winner speech. - Thanks, I'm glad that the coins and the wheels generally kind of give me a bit of a break. Because man, it's tough to get points. I even whenever I do get them at right amount of points, the tire win, they're surprised. My co-hosts are surprised. Like, I don't think Wade was even in this episode. I'm surprised he tied with Mark. But the sad realization is that even whenever I do win, I win with the same amount of points as somebody else. I'm never gonna catch up. I will always be behind. But maybe we'll get the surprise, least point golf rules added to the wheels someday, so I'll have another chance. - You actually won this episode with less points than Mark to be clear. The score was 10 to 9 when it was declared a tie and we entered sudden death. - I feel even worse about my victory. - You won from last place. It's a miracle. - Great. - Congratulations. (laughing) Well, that's Wade's winner speech. I'm gonna end it there. Make sure you follow the podcast. And then you'll know when the episodes spend some extra ones. - You might have missed them. If you're not following the show, you'll never know. Make sure you follow Mark and Mark Plier. Wait at Lord Minion 777 or Minion 777. I am my skirm on the internet. Make sure you keep checking the shop. Distractable.shop. Because there will be merch there. That's the end of the episode. Wade is gonna host the next one. I know we're all shocked, but it's true. Wade's gonna host the next one. I'm sorry Mark, I really tried. So thanks so much for watching. See you next time. Podcast out. - This is why you get sudden death.