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Use the code football for up to 30% off your first year. That's LifeLock.com, code football, because isn't your identity worth protecting? Welcome in. Welcome in. It's the Late Round Fantasy Football Show, sponsored by DraftKings. David Kitchen here alongside my goat. Respect my goat, J.J. Zacharyson. If you didn't see my tweets on X earlier this week, I came home from, um, a flag football practice for my daughter, logged into the members-only stream, and I see J.J. drafting a team while answering members' questions while walking on a treadmill. Yeah. Yeah. Got, um, I think, I think I got, like, three miles-ish in. I can't remember what I, what it, what it clocked at. Yeah, it wasn't a slow pace. You know, for those that know, like, the walking treadmill, generally, it's like, you know, you put it on, one and a half or two, and you're just, like, you're just wanting to move. Yeah, I was at two point, I was at 2.2, I think, during it. Yeah. Um, I'm a fast walker, though. Like, I, I have that problem whenever I go out on, on walks, like, on my, you know, there's, like, greenways close to my house and stuff, and I'll go on these long walks or runs even, but, like, let's just say I'm going on a walk, and the most awkward thing on earth is passing people on a trail while they're walking and you're walking, because there's a good, like, 30 to 40 minutes of walking. And I'm like, oh, my God, I'm going on a walk. And I'm like, oh, 40 seconds where you're both kind of going at a similar pace. Yeah, but I got to pass them. I can't just walk slower, you know, but yeah, I've, I've, uh, I'm known to be a fast walker. I don't know what that means about my personality, but it's true. I walk fast. Uh, my wife, the same way. That's like, we go on, uh, like, you know, if we go on, like, couples walks, the, the rare couples walks, like, she is, she's going way faster than me. I'm like, hey, can we just, that's not me. That's the opposite for us. Yeah. But my, but my wife's also like a foot shorter than me. So, you know, all right. Uh, I do want to say though, you know, this is the time to get your draft guide, uh, to become a member on lateround.com. We had another rankings update this morning, every Wednesday and Friday, we have rankings updates on both the website and in the draft guide. And then Friday we have the, you know, the players to target, players to avoid dark, all that stuff. So, um, so yeah, we've got that going on lateround.com sign up for the free newsletter. Also after this stream, I will be drafting a team immediately after, and you know, who else will be drafting a team with me? I'm going to guess Mr. Gadula, Mr. Brandon Gadula, fan favorite, Brandon Gadula. Every time I get on the stream, they're like, where's Brandon? Yeah. He is a fan. Favorite. 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So you don't have to, you don't have to tempt me with a good time, but promo code late round there. Link is in the description as well. Draft one, get one, uh, as far as a best ball Millie ticket. And I, the crown is yours. It, the crown is yours. It is, it is just an awesome way either before your draft, they kind of get ready to see what's out there or after your draft. Cause we know that drafting is one of the best parts of fantasy football. So that being said, JJ, we have a lot to talk about, uh, including just one of the, one of the all time moments in fantasy football. Laura, let's talk about that next in today's news and notes today's fantasy news. All right. Uh, preseason week two reaction, JJ, anything strike you with preseason week two stuff? I mean, other than I, I will look, we, we talked to, you know, I talked to Chris Harris last week for the, uh, for, for perspectives. And I asked him cause he's, he's been very, very anti preseason, uh, to a very strong degree. And he's not afraid to share his opinions, which, you know, I can appreciate the boldness in the way that he approaches things. He tells it how, how he feels. Um, I'm much more of a gray area, you know, in the way that I sort of say things and think about things probably. But, um, he certainly, you know, I, I, I agree with him. I think that he was right. And he's been right about the preseason stuff and it just not mattering that much. It's, it's really like, you're not getting normal offenses installs. You're not getting, you know, normal defenses. Um, you know, what was really interesting this week. Well, obviously, you know, Dajon Stribling, um, which I've officially learned that it is Dajon and not Dajon, which I think is, is important to, you know, I care about that kind of stuff. So, uh, a Chan, we've got Dajon, Dajon Stribling is, is how you, how you do pronounce that. Um, but regardless, I'll have some, some data on preseason stuff in a second during today's data, but I thought it was really interesting where, and it could just be Kyle Shanahan, not letting a rookie get into his own head, but there was a oppressor with Shanahan where he, where they asked him if like Stribling, if, if Stribling's preseason performance really is like moving the needle. And is it like a really big, and Shanahan's basically just saying like, no, it doesn't, I don't care. Like it just doesn't, he doesn't have any, um, like he just, he doesn't care at all about what the preseason is. He cares more about what he sees in practice and stuff. And I think that we should take that approach as well. Like it's just not that important. And there's not a lot of, correlating data, although Brandon is sending newsletter to show what is kind of correlated with preseason to regular season pronunciation. I just read the word pronunciation in the chat and I just said pronunciation. Production is what I meant to say. My gosh, you guys throw me off so much in chat. But anyway, I thought that was kind of interesting to hear Shanahan say that. So I don't care about preseason stuff. I really don't. It's interesting to see kind of how teams are sharing workload, I guess. I think that there's some interest in the way that the Titans, for instance, have been giving Tajay Spears a lot more looks than I think most would think going into the preseason, except for late round, of course, because we've been on the Pollard feed. But no, I mean, even that might not matter at all. We have no idea. So I think it's a lot easier in these instances to take this information because we don't have any information all summer long. And then we're like, oh, here's some nugget. Here's some some information. And then you take that and you just over exaggerate that like crazy. So I would almost rather just ignore it. So I don't do anything with it. Yes. The only reason why I cared is because I I'm tired of the cam word slander. So when they were at that Sunday night game, you know, I'm fighting my group chat. I'm fighting all the fantasy people. Fighting me, fighting my boss. What do you say? Your boss when he says your favorite player sucks, you know, like yeah, I mean, like I do think and I've kind of taken that approach. I remember back when we were at the Super Bowl and we were we were talking like Steve Palazzolo and stuff and you know, you were trying to get like hyped on cam word and then at one point I'm just like, dude, like I it can certainly happen, but we've seen way more of the year one bad statistical profiles bust than the year one bad statistical profiles, you know, come through eventually. I think it's fine in like redraft to just throw the dart. I don't think it's that big of a deal, but you know, in dynasty it's a lot more difficult to invest where we're at right now. Their defense. I will say it was telling the first team defense getting absolutely ransacked these past two weeks and just like if they're going to be terrible on defense could be fantasy friendly. Yeah, it could be fantasy friendly. It could be. I mean, cam word could be this year's Jacoby percent, but let's let's move on to that's definitely one you want to hear about your, uh, your franchise quarterback. Maybe my maybe my franchise quarterback, Mr. Jacoby percent. Listen, if that happens, it is what it is. A 35% cam word. It is what it is. Um, I want you to take yourself back JJ in time to Sunday night, Sunday afternoon. You get the alert. Where were you? What were you doing when you got the alert that Ashton Gentry had to be helped off the field, could not put any weight on his leg? Where were you? And how much did you cry? Well, contrary to some people's beliefs, I do spend time with my children and I was I was with my kids on Sunday and I got the alert, you know, and I tried to ignore and then the I couldn't because all of the apps were just notifying me. And so that was in my head for sure. It's like, okay, well, I'm at 12% Ashton Gentry and, uh, in the Millie and I have, you know, been bullish on what he could do this year and 95% plus of those times of those instances when you get, I mean, look, it was a an injury on a reception prayer circle from all the players. The music stopped, right? And in those instances, I mean, how many the only thing I can kind of compare it to is when Tyrone Tracy, his rookie year was like, um, taken away in like an air cast or something like that. And then he was fine. He was like back and like, two days back at practice, but you're not even remotely talking about the quality of player as Ashton Gentry. Like this is such a bigger deal than, you know, a random rookie that you were just hyped on that you were excited about. Right. And so, um, you know, I joined, I was in some slows. I didn't do, I didn't join any fast drafts when that ambiguous time was going on where we didn't know how long Gentry was going to be out. We kind of assumed that it was like an ACL. Uh, I just saw tweet after tweet from people saying this is how I would handle things if I were drafting. Tonight. I didn't send anything because I couldn't, you know, like I said, I was hanging out with the fam and it just wasn't the right time for me to like sit down and like craft a tweet for people. Um, but regardless, like, yeah, I mean, it was, it was crazy. Like I joined, I was in some slows. I eventually I had my, you know, my clock was, I was up on like three or four drafts and some of them I was in like round four, round five. So I wasn't going to take Mike Washington in those drafts anyway. And in round five, like that's that would like, even if Gentry were out for the year, I wouldn't be drafting Mike Washington over like Bucky Irving or something like that. Um, and then, uh, but I was in round nine in a couple of drafts. And so I did take Mike Washington in round nine later that night, uh, before we learned the news with Gentry. Um, and then now obviously, you know, we've seen, it's like, we still don't have that much clarity as to what's going on here. You know, there's, there was a report by rap sheet where it's like, where it's like, it's not a super high ankle sprain. You know, it's like, it's, it's kind of in the middle. It's being lowered down his leg. Yeah. Like there's a, it reminds me of Denny, Denny Carter used to send or would send tweets out all the time. And now he's on blue sky. He's not even on Twitter, but he would send tweets out saying how, Oh, this is the lowest ankle sprain I've ever seen. You know, like this is, this is getting, it's just getting lower and lower. It's fine. It's not a big deal. It's just, this is just in his toe at this point, you know, like, like that's the way that some of this reporting has gone with Gentry. I still, you know, my reaction to it from like a fantasy perspective is that, you know, I ended up bumping him to the bottom of that sort of round two tier where like Amari and Hampton's at and Devon HN, Derek Henry, kind of that grouping. I, I, I think that he's going to miss some time and I, I still love Gentry. I was very, very high on him this year, but don't be surprised if in the draft guide, he's crossed out this week as a player to target because there's obviously a lot of, a lot of risk involved and going his direction. But you know, there's going to be some drafts where he falls to like more of the late second. And I think that's a really good spot for a team that starts with Jamar Chase or Puka Nakua because one of the things that constantly, I did a Reddit AMA yesterday and one of the things that was constantly asked, and I understand why, but it was asked like literally eight or nine times. But it was this idea of, okay, you know, Bijan and Gibbs are off the board. Now we're looking at either Jamar Chase or Puka Nakua, but the problem is if any of you guys have done drafts, the problem is that that running back tier drops off and you get into like Brees Hall territory which I'm higher than the market on Brees Hall generally. You know, I talked about that on a recent Mailbag episode. And I drafted him in round three towards the beginning of round three and plenty of drafts, you know, season-long managed lead drafts so far this year. But regardless of that, there is a drop-off after that pretty big tier of running back. And so what you're basically doing is, oh, I'm going to get an elite wide receiver in the second round, like a Drake London, A.J. Brown, whoever. And then the third round comes around and you're like, ah, I don't really want to reach for Devontae or go with Kyron Williams or go with Brees Hall, whatever the case may be. So then you're like, oh, but, oh, here's, oh, Nico Collins fell to the, you know, early third. Nico Collins, Drake London, Chris Alave, I mean, George Pickens. You could even make the argument for Devontae Smith and Zay Flowers. You know, like there's really good wide receivers there. So then all of a sudden, you're in a position where you start three wide receivers and you have a zero RB build and a lot of people, including myself, like I don't think it's a very comfortable position. I don't think it's a very comfortable position to be in because you're then risking, you know, there are at times pretty good fourth round running backs that can fall to that late fourth, but in best ball, that happens way more frequently than in a managed season long league managed season long leagues. You're going to get Travis HN and, you know, even like a David Montgomery who has more question marks. Now you're going to get those guys more at like the three, four area and early fourth. So you could just continuously just kind of just, just be right off of a running back tier over and over and over again. And you run the risk of having Kenny Gainwell as a starter for you and you're without an anchor at running back at all. And so, you know, I do think that that's a valid point that people bring up. And so if you can pair gente with a Jamar Chase or Puka Nakua, that's sweet. That's awesome. But I do think that it gives more validity to the CMC, you know, 103 overall, which is why I actually, because I think that I need to be more like vocal about this right in my rankings and the way that I display them. So even though like in a vacuum, I would take Puka and Jamar Chase over Chris McCaffrey, I do have Chris McCaffrey in that tier in case you want to go that direction and take that running back. Yeah, especially we talk about it now. You just never know what your own draft room is going to look like. People that have been in leagues, they kind of know the tendencies and you don't want to be on the outside looking in on a position sometimes. All right. Give me that booty. Keishon booty traded to the Texans. Things we like to see JJ. I saw some report by some like, you know, not well-known Patriots reporter about how the Texans don't even know if they're going to be using him as a starter and two wide receiver sets. I don't believe that I I think that I think that he fits the mold of replacing Jaden Higgins and being a threat down the field, which is what he played in New England. You know, I think booty is actually a pretty good wide receiver. Like I've been saying, like I liked him a lot as a prospect. He was actually an early Claire, you know, even though he's a day three guy. guy had some off the field stuff but he's gotten his head on straight and he's been you know he's been a a pretty valuable and and solid player overall so I I think that what we're going to see in Houston and look I I think that Jalen Knoll I had him as a as a late round dart in last last week's update I think Jalen Knoll is still kind of attractive because he's going to be a last round pick in most season-long leagues um but he showed off a lot of upside last year out of the slot I think he'll play the primary slot position where Xavier Hutchinson would have been the perimeter guy for them opposite of Nico that's going to be Keishon Booty now which makes sense because Xavier Hutchinson was really inefficient he's not I mean he's a very replaceable wide receiver Jalen Knoll still has some upside because yeah what if what if Booty doesn't get caught up and isn't able to play on the perimeter and they're like hey let's just get Knoll some reps out there and see what he's got and I thought he was a really intriguing and interesting prospect himself so I'm still throwing that dart um but I think Booty is going to be out there in two wide receiver sets which is going to be important because I think Houston's going to end up running a lot of 12 this year they drafted Marlon Klein who is actually kind of an intriguing prospect according to that model uh Gadula kind of liked him as like a really good sleeper type player in Dynasty um and I kind of followed suit because he did a lot of good work with the tight end position so I do think that we're going to see a lot more 12 personnel in that offense this season and obviously when that's the case you get more hyper targets to to the wide receivers that are out there so Nico Collins gets a little bit of a bump and then Keishon Booty I think could end up seeing you know a decent enough target share in the offense for sure I like that uh Booty call let's get on to Mega Mondray trifling tray we have Ramondre just steaming up the draft boards and if you've been I'm not trying to pat anyone on the back right now but if you've listened to this show if you've listened to JJ and you know the offseason you you knew this was coming yeah um I will say this I got a mailbag mailbag question for this week that I'm probably going to briefly touch on on the mailbag episode so I'll give you guys sort of like a a TLDR of what that's going to be like but you know I got a message of like hey we've seen a lot of these situations in the past where the more explosive player was not sort of like the coach's favorite um from from what we're assuming right and you know we then end up drafting incorrectly the more boring you know good and past pro type player and some of the references that this person made were like Damian Harris or Ezekiel Elliott towards the end of his career or Zach Moss whenever Chase Brown was there with him in Cincinnati the difference between this situation in those situations is that Ramondre Stevenson is good like forget any priors like last year I was in on Travion Henderson and I was not in on Ramondre Stevenson and it was a mistake in the end it didn't end up being as big of a mistake as it could have been because we got those really massive spiked weeks from Travion and you know it wasn't like the biggest deal in the world necessarily but of course I mean Ramondre really came on during the second half of last year I keep saying this like front half of the year there were definitely some question marks he was not nearly as good as people uh as his end of season numbers showed but Ramondre Stevenson last year was number one in the NFL and rushing yards over expected per rush uh and then he was number one in catch rate over expected at running back among qualified running backs he was good like we're not talking about end of career Ezekiel Elliott here we're talking about Ramondre Stevenson who is coming off a season where his team went to the Super Bowl and they rode him as their clear number one back throughout the playoffs and there's nothing going on in camp to tell us that that's going to change if anything there's articles being written about him being a player so I think it's really important like I was doing that Apex draft at the beginning of August remember and um I was between Ramondre and Travion and at the time Travion was like a round higher in ADP and I just straight up took Ramond when you're on the clock as a fantasy analyst you know it's very easy to think in hypotheticals often when you're doing rankings when you're giving advice it's not your team you're not you're not making those choices for that person you're just giving general advice I try my best to put my mind to it and I'm like I'm gonna do it I'm gonna do it I'm gonna put myself in the person's shoes but sometimes you got to put yourself in your own shoes and I did that in that draft and I was like I was like oh my gosh I like Ramondre Stevenson more than I like Travion Henderson and that's when it really you know I was always higher than the market on Ramondre but that's when it really flipped for me and you know now the market's been doing that more and more as well I'm not saying that I'm the reason that that's happening at all there's been a lot of favorable reports and stuff like that but I do feel good about you know the stance with Ramondre versus Travion this offseason that might be our new shirt uh that we have with the quote sometimes you have to put yourself in your own shoes yes wise words from Sir JJ all right uh let's get on to some other interesting running back rooms uh in Carolina we have Hubba Brooks you know Chuba Hubbard Jonathan Brooks yeah it's something I combined them uh did you write did you used to write for a newspaper yes like think of something think of something Hubba Brooks you know um it's what it's what the kids do you know when you combine two people so uh that's what we're doing here but anyways you've got Jonathan Brooks like right now and I know redraft is different but on on DraftKings and Best Ball Jonathan Brooks is going around pick 70 Chuba Hubbard going pick 115 yeah it's it's that really flipped that delta that delta is pretty wild to me um but that's what you that's what you get in Best Ball right uh and season long it's a lot closer you're still going to even see Hubbard uh drafted ahead of Jonathan Brooks in some season long drafts I like Brooks straight up more you know I didn't at the start of the offseason in May but as the season went as the offseason went on I think I made the flip in like mid to early July or something like that to go more Brooks as we saw that he was healthy um I think there's more you know upside with him more pass catching upside with him he had a really good and complete profile and a lot of good advanced marks so I'm very excited for Jonathan Brooks with that being said like if you're in a draft and Chuba Hubbard is sitting in round 10 which happens in Best Ball pretty frequently I mean basically every draft now in Best Ball uh you should draft Chuba Hubbard I think in that in that range so um you know I'm not the biggest Chuba Hubbard guy I think he's like an above average back but definitely doesn't have that like special ability to like break seasons uh he has not been an efficient pass catcher throughout his career um and obviously he already lost his job last year like we've seen this coaching staff you know give the work to another running back who was outperforming him at that time uh but and then the injury obviously is not helping me that's a this is one of those things though we're like there's oftentimes an injury pushes a player's ADP down and it takes a while for that player to get back we're seeing that with Sam Laporta a little bit right now too where you know like he had that I think it was a hip right but he went back to practice yesterday and uh and and you know he was dropping by like two rounds and drafts when realistically he probably shouldn't have because I don't know if he's obviously he's he's okay right now so there's a lot of react a lot of like harsh reactions going on to injuries I would argue a lot of times like we shouldn't be doing that obviously it can bite you if you if you aren't doing it enough for in some cases but um yeah I think that that Chuba is actually kind of intriguing in some drafts at this point he's definitely not a fade for me like he was last year yeah because you talk about at cost Chuba says that uh they're just being extra cautious with him because of his lingering hamstring injury last year so that was the reason but it sounds like he might even just be the starter to to start out there yeah in Carolina all right Montmarks and Houston that's David Montgomery and Woody Marks oh is it I couldn't okay you needed you needed any sort of insight on that but you have both of these guys now saying it's it'll be more of a uh committee than people might have initially thought or is that the case you think look I think that this is this is like a classic example of the fragility of the running back dead zone area traditionally how we have how we've talked about running back dead zone players I've gotten to the point over the last couple of years where I don't write about the dead zone anymore because I think that it it uh simplifies it just makes it way too it simplifies it way too much uh really what the running back dead zone is is that traditionally in drafts what we usually see is running backs being boosted a little bit in ADP and then they're being boosted a little bit in ADP and then they're being boosted a little bit in ADP and then they're being boosted a little bit in ADP for not their talent but for not their talent but for their projected volume and when you're assigning volume to a for their projected volume and when you're assigning volume to a player who's not talented enough player who's not talented enough there's fragility to that to where that player could lose that there's fragility to that to where that player could lose that volume because he's not talented enough volume because he's not talented enough and so I do think that David Montgomery is sort of in that and so I do think that David Montgomery is sort of in that bucket where we kind of know what he is I bucket where we kind of know what he is I think that he's he can handle a big workload will he get think that he's he can handle a big workload will he get that big workload I don't think it's nearly as that he's he can handle a big workload I don't think it's nearly as locked in as a lot of the other locked in as a lot of the other running backs out there um with that being said like I've been running backs out there um with that being said like I've been ranking him at Market like I'm not ranking him at Market like I'm not high or low on on David Montgomery I haven't been a giant here high or low on on David Montgomery I haven't been a giant here with a lot of other you know running with a lot of other you know running backs in that sort of like dead zone-y type area but that's the backs in that sort of like dead zone-y type area but that's the fear and I think that like no one fear and I think that like no one knows in my opinion like we don't know for sure how this knows in my opinion like we don't know for sure how this works or how the backfield is going to be works or how the backfield is going to be split but I think that this is one of those things split but I think that this is one of those things where like you have to understand that the risk where like you have to understand that the risk profile here is not simply like oh David profile here is not simply like oh David Montgomery might not be as efficient as we think behind that Montgomery might not be as efficient as we think behind that offensive line like that's not the offensive line like that's not the risk profile of David Montgomery the risk profile is they have another running back in that backfield that could easily take some looks from Montgomery and that's a really big deal because a guy like Montgomery is going to just need as many looks as he possibly can get because he's probably not going to be a 12 13 percent target share player right so this this to me is why like every team that you draft there's you have to understand like the the general archetype that you're working with in terms of the player but also that that floor ceiling combination and the risk profile involved right like Bayshall Tootin is going to go in the same range as David Montgomery there are some teams like the teams that we talked about earlier that went with three wide receivers to start you might be more inclined to get a David Montgomery type in round four and around five than going after Bayshall Tootin because Bayshall Tootin has a lower floor than David Montgomery just based on ambiguity based on us not knowing now I like to play for upside I'll rank them in a similar tier and I might even have Montgomery above Tootin in some rankings because I know more people would kind of rather go for the the safer play and that in you know in the first four or five rounds but to me like I still think Bayshall Tootin has a higher upside has has more upside than David Montgomery especially given these reports so it's kind of the way that I view these things and it's just another reason why that area of drafts and those types of running backs they should be you know taken with a grain of salt and you should approach them with caution because there's some fragility to it the people have spoken and McDonald's listened back by popular demand McDonald's is firing up your taste buds with the return of spicy McNuggets plus mighty hot sauce to turn up the heat that's right McNuggets just got hotter you can taste it now the crispy crunch of a McNugget coated and seasoned perfectly 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playing Deshaun Watson he shouldn't be on the team um and you can say that strictly from a play perspective but also like at some point you got to look at your fan base as an owner of a company whatever the case may be it's like if we're it's like if we produced a draft guide that just like was so unusable every single year that we've done it and we just ignored the feedback from people you know and we're just like no what we're doing is fine it's don't worry about it like you're tarnishing your own brand and company by throwing this guy out on the field and maybe you believe that he's the best answer I question that because he hasn't shown us that he can be that answer um but he is starting I don't think from a fantasy perspective it really matters either way because I don't think Shador Sanders has that much upside anyway uh so to me you know I'm I'm drafting Casey Decepcion he's basically the only guy that I've been drafting from like consistently from this Browns offense this year you know I'm I'm I've been worried about Harold Fannin people don't know this but Harold Fannin was originally right before we published the guy I I took him off the avoids list this year uh back in early July and I've been a little bit like hesitant with Fannin I'm probably not going to make him as an avoid because I just love the profile and I love the player but like Fannin has a lot to work that's working against him this year so I'm not gonna make him this year that just is not being talked about nearly enough where you have this added competition and he's good and you can earn targets by being good but he was also getting some really easy layup stuff last year when Shador Sanders was starting because of a lack of competition and because of the way that Shador kind of was was was uh running that offense is a brand new offensive system like we don't know for sure if some of that easy stuff is going to be there for Fannin where he's going to get a 30 target share you know so I I even think that he's a very risky play but Concepcion when you can get him in that position he's going to be there for Fannin and he's going to come in the double digit rounds I'm going after that because I want to I want to hyper target you know at that kind of cost um you know players who I think are really good okay um moving on to Atlanta things are so bad with Tua they are rumors of Phoenix starting you know continues to grow um with this Atlanta offense where are you at as far as this Falcons offense with either of these quarterbacks so I was looking at the splits with and without Michael Penix last year for Drake London in particular but the whole offense so when Michael Penix was playing Drake London 31 targets per out run rate 2.75 yards per out run rate 0.6 fantasy points per route run which is all very very good numbers like like really really good um and so then you look at Kyle Pitts 18 targets per out run 1.3 target or yards per out run not good at all it's just not not strong and then you look at the opposite of that obviously Drake London was banged up when Michael Penix was not on the field but Drake London in 103 routes without Michael Penitz Michael Penix 21 targets per out run rate and a 1.2 yards per out run rate so like I think that that Penix playing is is actually you know I I didn't dig into this nearly as much as I should have um like a month ago but I I think that um Penix starting is probably not a bad thing at all given given the state the the the what what appears to be the state of to a tongue of Iloa which is that he is absolute dust that he is horrible right so I I think it's a good thing if Michael Penix starts uh there's there seems to be more upside with the offense and the guys we care about in fantasy okay uh get Downs with the not the sickness but the calf uh unfortunately Josh Downs dealing with a calf injury we don't know how serious it is all I know is that this Colts offense and we can we can lump um the gate gate blurb in there as well if you're following along JJ but we've got Downs with a calf injury Alec Pierce with this ankle we're watching to see how he walks Tyler Warren has a groin injury Keenan Allen is maybe the healthiest guy he's the oldest guy he's been playing at all right he hasn't had the opportunity to get hurt so uh Colts pass catchers Downs bad yeah it's kind of tough um I'm trying to you know I'm I was I was relatively okay with Josh Downs after the Keenan Allen move but the more that I've sat with it the more I'm like kind of moving Downs down a little bit in my rankings and I love Josh Downs I think there's so much potential with his profile he's actually been pretty good on the perimeter at getting targets when he plays out there um and so there's there is some some upside there and some some intrigue there with that being said it's hard to deny like Keenan Allen has been a quarterback friend uh when uh you know when it comes to to getting targets you know led the both the last two teams he's played foreign targets per route run uh last year just he just led the team in target share so um yeah I mean I think Keenan Allen is not someone that I think is going to give you tons and tons of upside but in deeper leagues at the end of drafts you know in best ball um I do think that he can give you some usable weeks and then the Alec Pierce stuff I think again no one knows like no one knows what's going on with Alec Pierce now you watch him walk I've seen rumors reports from like other players being interviewed saying that like he just kind of walks with a limp naturally like that's just kind of like he's got a little swag to him I didn't know did you notice like we saw him at Radio Row he was going to uh interview with this show yeah but they got there late so we weren't able to do it but I didn't notice any you know limp when I just noticed his traps yeah dude was huge dude is huge yeah a lot bigger than people realize but he was he was also a you know a a gym rat uh you know athletic freak at the combine and stuff but um yeah I don't know what's going on with Alec Pierce I I'm fine double digit rounds that people are just kind of fading him to just throw the dart but aside from that I'm kind of staying away okay Mike Evans is old he has now a groin injury so if you're keeping track he's had a groin injury two separate quad injuries an ankle injury and I think I'm missing a foot injury I'm not sure if that is with the ankle injury but some are saying this might be his fifth injury of the preseason yeah I mean it's scary for sure but I also think that like we're in a place right now where teams are playing it so so safe with these guys and we don't know what's a serious and what's not like even even the amount of time that these guys are sidelined we don't know how serious the injury was or if they're just like no you're good you got the install you know exactly what the offense is doing and you're good uh playing the game so like we don't need to rush you back so it could be going you know happening for mike evans but yeah it's not good news that he can't seemingly stay on the field okay next one uh is jcm jacory cross game we are going to be fantasy relevant this year uh that's a little bit of a joke compared to last year when someone said if he's fantasy relevant they will steal the declaration it was redacted in in uh in the fantasy in the late round discord he said he would steal the declaration of independence of jcm ended up being fantasy relevant yeah he's gonna be fantasy relevant uh i said this a couple weeks ago i mean i i made the switch to to ranking him above rashad white um rashad white seemingly has a groin injury after doing the als ice bucket challenge it looked like he slipped after doing that which is like that's the story of this preseason right like you're you're excited you know you're doing something good as he was and then uh you know you get hurt but you know i still have my hesitation to to think that he's going to be like you know a uh 8 to 12 percent target share player i don't think that's probably going to happen but i think it's a backfield that i want to invest in so i've been throwing darts at both jcm and rashad white yeah they say he's got like an undisclosed injury a soft like a lower body injury but now they say that he could be back they're just taking it really easy like i just said yeah what the way the teams are treating this stuff yeah uh okay uh trey benson waved uh and i'll group this in with it as well kareem hunt visiting the lions we are in this season now where you're gonna have maybe some veterans cut visiting other places and it's just kind of it is what it is yeah i mean i never was like super high on trey benson aside from the only time i was into trey benson was last year when there were all the injuries and i'm like yeah stash him on your bench and then he didn't come back um and then kareem hunt i mean is he i don't know if he's better or worse than isaiah pacheco like whoever is that like i i haven't drafted any isaiah pacheco this offseason maybe it comes back to haunt me and burn me and best ball but um i i just you know again it goes back to the fragility of like not super talented players i think pacheco's just kind of cooked versus where he's been at just has dealt with injuries throughout his short career so far so yeah i mean like like i'm not gonna be surprised if there's a lot of that volatility with that rb2 spot for the lions and if kareem hunts there uh he could get some run you know in that in that backfield we'll see what happens though okay then last um packers said they were preparing um for the possibility of jacobs being not being there with either injury or suspension or whatever i've seen different takes on x about this people are saying it's actually good probably like good for jacobs the way that it was said some are saying it's bad i don't think it's good usually to me when teams call that out there's at least sometimes a hint at that suspension coming and it kind of aligns with when adam schefter came out last week or two weeks ago saying that puka nakua and josh jacobs were two players who could still be suspended and it in the way that schefter framed it it sounded like nakua would miss week one right like that was going to be a one week kind of suspension he wouldn't be able to play their opener uh and then the josh jacobs thing is is a bigger deal than the puka thing in terms of just like what the allegations are and what happens so i don't know i'm taking it as you know keep you know marshall lloyd's a late round dart throw he's been a late round dart throw in the draft guide and i i would continue to draft him in the later rounds all right let's get on to today's data today's data yeah it's a fun one yeah so this is looking at rookie wide receiver preseason numbers over the last 10 years so this is first year wide receivers 15 or more routes runs this is mega small sample guys like super super small sample but i'm looking at targets per outrun and yards per outrun and design stribling has by far the best targets per outrun rate in this data set uh he's had a 59 percent targets per outrun rate in the preseason this year and if you look at the top guys tank dell right behind him jackson smith and jigba amin raw saint brown all as rookies and then you start to get into more questionable players but there's still some hits in there garrett wilson's in there um quentin johnston kind of i guess uh romeo dobbs obviously tory horton looked like he was you know trending in the and obviously you know design uh dejan stribling had did i say design the john the last time uh you you corrected yourself so you're good uh his yards per outrun is 4.95 but the other thing is we have uh trevor pena for the jags who i believe was a penn stater uh he did not go to the combine so he doesn't have a a uh and he wasn't drafted so he doesn't have a profile on the prospect guide he's been kind of crushing it for the jags he's got a three or 6.84 yards per outrun rate so far in the preseason a 42 percent targets per outrun rate so again if there's any stickiness to this kind of data which i don't think there is that much stickiness you'd rather the player be good than bad of course but i don't think there's going to be like significant amount of stickiness here uh he's another one pain is another one that uh is kind of interesting to to just watch out for from a dynasty perspective it's obviously a crowded room and stuff and such though he might not even make the team but we'll see he's been been crushing in the preseason but uh yeah there's just some more uh dajohn's dribbling steam for you folks i still think that you can be drafting him in the in the top like 45 ish wide receivers which is is going to place him in the you know top 10 rounds uh of drafts okay so that's uh rookie wide receiver preseason starts right there no i said stars like they're stars okay star that's why i didn't know i i didn't know if it was stars or starts and i was like they're stars like they're they're the guys who are crushing in the preseason now i understand not like suit like not superstars i saw you messing with that the entire time i was talking i know because i'm like i know how you are with like you don't want a typo out there it's okay yeah someone said in chat someone says thoughts on digs versus dribbling i'm taking stefan digs i love stefan digs this year i think he's just way undervalued the people have spoken and mcdonald's listened back by popular demand mcdonald's is firing up your taste buds with the return of spicy mcnuggets plus mighty hot dogs to turn up the heat that's right mcnuggets just got hotter you can taste it now the crispy crunch of a mcnugget coated and seasoned perfectly with aged cayenne and chili peppers then dialed up and dipped in the mighty hot sauce with a little more kick and just a touch of sweetness you can taste it now 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that are going late round one into the middle of round two this year i i copied and pasted this is from fantasy pros adp uh and then i highlighted the running backs that i'm sort of talking about here which is ashen genti who's gonna fall in adp uh saquon barkley devon achan chase brown amarin hampton kenneth walker and derrick henry those are those are the guys and then i highlighted two players that i think are sort of like the targets in this range based on adp so obviously devon achan is going ahead of chase brown i'm drafting chase brown ahead of devon achan kenneth walker going behind amarin hampton i'm drafting kenneth walker over both amarin hampton and devon achan obviously he's a little bit banged up but it sounds like it's not that big of a deal is this foot injury um So, like, this to me is going to be a really important part of. drafts this year i think that if you're at the end of round one you should double tap running back usually in most leagues because then in round three and four you can get two really good wide receivers still and feel good about your wide receiver room uh but i did want to highlight chase brown and walker as two guys that i like i mean chase brown i've talked about on the show you know he was averaging over 20 he was averaging like 21 ppr points per game with joe burrow last year basically top five running back in in fantasy um and he was getting you know he's the one running back out of this group like just go through these names ashen genti a brand new system saquon barkley a brand new offensive system devon achan everything changed amarian hampton brand new offensive system a new competition kenneth walker he's on a new team derrick henry even a brand new offensive system right chase brown has the most stability out of all of these guys he's the easiest to project in my opinion of all of these players so i'm very into chase brown for both the stability and the upside case and then kenneth walker you know you're going to see more of these guys in the next couple of weeks i'm going to see a lot of these guys in the next couple of weeks i'm going to see a lot of these guys in the next couple of weeks high upside runner who has had lower success rates in the past but the lower success rate stuff in kansas city should change because we saw last year that team was top 10 in success rate despite having kareem hunt and isaiah pacheco and then on top of that the team faced the fewest number of players in the box um fewest stack boxes in the league and so walker's gonna see easier fronts because these defenses have to you know be honest because they're not going to be as good as they used to be because they're they're facing patrick mahomes who obviously has been not as good of a deep ball thrower over the last couple of years but it is still patrick mahomes and so the the defensive fronts that kenneth walker is going to face are going to be i mean he's going to be awesome on the ground i have no doubt about that the biggest question is going to be what he looks like as a receiver if you look at andy reed's history you know before we've had this sort of like hodgepodge of just like random running backs back there um he's had some true bell cow backs throughout his and so i'm not going to be surprised that they use walker a good bit uh through the air he's he hasn't seen the crazy volume spikes aside from the one year with ryan grubb as offensive coordinator but he's been very good per route run throughout his career aside from his rookie season so i think walker can be a really good asset as a receiver for them too which is why i'm pretty high on okay let's move on to the second area of the make or break draft and this is the cover boy brock bowers you say to brock bowers or to not brock bowers yeah look there's an opportunity cost in getting brock bowers to be a good receiver and to be a good in your drafts it's going to be a lot easier in my opinion to draft him in shallower leagues in leagues where you know maybe you don't have like super deep starting lineups or uh so so you know obviously if you're starting three running backs and three wide receivers in one tight end versus two running backs and two wide receivers in one tight end in the latter format tight ends matter more because they're a larger chunk of your your starting lineup right and so in those kinds of formats i'll be more willing to go after brock bowers in round two where he's being drafted is expected point of view is that he's going to be a good receiver and he's going to be a good receiver and he's going to be a good receiver and he's going to be a good receiver and he's going to be a good receiver and he's going to be a good receiver and he's going to be a good receiver based on historical adp is around 14.8 points per game he scored 15.5 and 14.7 uh in his two seasons in the league so i have no issue with him at least meeting expectation the problem is with tight end you need them to give you like a special season in order to really be worthwhile because uh the the position just doesn't matter nearly as much like we're just looking at how tight ends have performed against other tight ends we're looking at expected points per game we're not talking about how valuable that actual player is right so i do think you can meet expectation the problem is how valuable is that going to be for your fantasy roster usually it's around like you know where he goes you're going to want like a 17 point per game type season from brock bowers to to really like give you some decent value i think he can get there in this offense with clint kubiak um you know he's he's an elite player uh it's good they're going to run a lot of 12 there's going to be a lot of focus going towards brock bowers um and so i'm fine with taking him in some leagues there's some leagues where i'm not going you know if it's a 14 teamer where i'm starting three wide receivers i'm not going to be as inclined to take brock bowers because i don't want to have to play catch up at those other more important positions but i'm high on bowers i think you can draft him um but i do think that's a big big make or break decision because it impacts the rest of your lineup so much your roster construction so much after you do take bowers there yeah you're mentioning um you know the two receiver and shallower leagues and we also get some of these questions about 10 team leagues and we talk about it's it's a lot easier in 10 team leagues to draft these onesie positions like a brock bowers based on where you are okay um round three to five wide receivers yeah there's a lot of them and i i actually extended this past round five with the adp data that fantasy pros is showing because parker washington is still i i we'll just call this really looks like it's davante smith i'm just going to read them really quick davante smith zay flowers t higgins tetero mcmillan emeka buka lad mcconkey garrett wilson jaylen waddle dj more luther burden terry mclaurin davante adams jameson williams mike evans roma dunze christian watson and parker washington so those wide receivers i love them it's so hard to have true honest like i have a couple guys that are on this list that i have as avoids in the draft guide but they're avoids with a confidence level of one like literally it's like we have a confidence level in the in the guide like i'm not hard fading any of these guys it's just that i'm trying to give some content to you guys and to you know let you understand why the rankings have those guys maybe slightly lower than what adp does but when i'm looking at this list i can make a case for literally all of these players and i think that if you're going rbrb you're in a really good spot to take three of these guys in a lot of cases um you know if you go uh if you're in an auction i love the idea of getting two running backs from that tier we just talked about maybe getting chase brown and kenneth walker and then getting four of these guys potentially in this tier as opposed to spending up and getting like drake london nico collins and stuff i like those guys i'm just saying that i think the upside case for some some of the guys in this range is very similar and you can get them for a lot cheaper in an auction draft so i think that this range is just going to be make or break because there's going to be a lot of players in my opinion that emerge from this and give us some uh really good upside in fantasy this year i was going to mention that as far as uh this is almost like a strategy guide for auctions as well just yeah a little bit what's your it could be a strategy i would say like i had this strategy going into the king's classic no and then you know things got kind of turned well the problem is if you get other teams that are doing the same thing it makes it a lot more difficult and that's what happened in my king's classic draft too is that i was just like oh okay i'm not going to get terry mclaurin i'll just wait for the next guy from this tier and i'll get him a little bit cheaper or whatever but then every guy it's just kept going and going and going so i had to spend up a little bit to get like a t higgins and stuff i'd never find when you're spinning up to get a t higgins that's what i always say yeah okay uh the start of the qb2 range that next make or break area of your draft yeah this is the last one um it's it's the fact that like once you're past like trevor lawrence justin herbert in my opinion can make an argument for all of these guys that are listed here so these guys being matthew stafford beau nix patrick mahomes brock purdy jared goff kyler murray baker mayfield and jordan love and you know what i'll highlight one guy in here that i think is still pretty underrated and that's brock purdy uh if brock purdy is going qb15 i'd be drafting him in in a lot of my drafts and i have drafted purdy uh he's you know he gives you a lot more juice in his legs than people realize and he's been consistently like a top eight fantasy asset so uh purdy's probably the best value of that group i don't mind beau nix i'm a little bit worried about mahomes because last year he set a career high in rushing points per game over five uh which was like he was like 1.8 points per game higher than what he's typically been and obviously he's coming off the acl they get kenneth walker there's a lot of fear with patrick mahomes in my opinion stafford has regression coming uh jared goff i think like to me there's not a massive massive difference between jared goff and matthew stafford whereas in your drafts especially home leagues what stafford did last year and they just simply apply it to this year stafford's going to be less than you know a quarter of a point per game with his legs you know and so you literally need all of that stuff that he did last year uh with his arm if he would have been like if you regress that down by like 10 touchdowns then all of a sudden he's starting to approach low end qb1 territory and that's still while leading the nfl in touchdown passes just he's not giving you anything from a rushing perspective so uh there's some fear with stafford uh you know jared goff i it's sort of an arbitrage there uh kyler murray has the rushing upside obviously baker mayfield i think is prime for a bounce back the dude looks like he's in the best shape of his life by the way yeah he looks good baker baker's looking good uh and then jordan love i mean it's an offense in an ecosystem that's been really strong historically and he's a he's a you know an epa superstar jordan love is so this qb2 range i think is going to be a make or break spot if you go late round qb because there are a lot of guys to choose from a lot of guys that are interchangeable in rank a lot have super strong conviction on um but i do think that there's a couple of them that could emerge from this from this group and obviously this doesn't include some of the late late guys that are like like tyler shuck or malik willis um but i do think that there are some good options in this range yeah i know with with best ball uh i'm in complete agreement with you on on brock purdy i don't feel like i have enough bow knicks that like that scares me i've got plenty of baker mayfield i don't feel like i have enough bow knicks that like that scares me i don't feel like i have enough because he's going after all these guys he's available and i also just think about all of his pass catchers that offense they're all being drafted in the top 100 for you count matthew golden being at the at the top of that list but with watson and reed and craft and golden and jacobs i mean this offense should be a good offense it should be a good offense and there's there's also some um chance that they're a little bit more pass heavy than than what's being projected not just because of like how things ebb and flow but also because josh jacobs and the stuff that we talked 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