The Sean O'Malley Episode

♪ Voodoo ♪ ♪ Hitsch on O'Malley ♪ ♪ He's from O'Malley ♪ I don't think so. ♪ You'll fight until your day I can't see ♪ ♪ O'Malley ♪ ♪ Where you're excited to why not? ♪ - Well, today is a very important day. I'm not sure if you're aware. - Oh, there's a smudge all over that. - Why is it an important day? - There's a smudge. - Well, you can get Windex. - We have our first fighter coming in. - I've been here. - Just for that, I'm gonna beat the shit out of you during. - Have you ever fought? - Yes. - I've never fought once. - How about many times? - Are you guys gonna fight 'em? - No. - Maybe. - Maybe you have. - If you said something right away. - No! - Hey! - Hey! - This guy's from I don't give a fuck university. - Yeah! - To be a fighter, you gotta be a little crazy. - No normal person can beat you up. - I'm back. - Oh! - I would grab you that choke right there. - Oh my God, that's hurt. - I might be a better overall athlete. - Who's your dad? - If I put on a patting right now. - You punched me, you destroyed. - Yeah, that's amazing. - We know nothing about you, but I mean that we know of you, which is so impressive. The fact that we all know who you are, don't follow the sport necessarily. - I love to hear that. - Like whatever you're doing on a branding perspective, your wardrobe, I don't believe in that. - We appreciate that. - We were saying, we were talking about Tommy Lee too. You might not even know his band, but you know Tommy Lee because he's like the guy, six-nine, another person. Some people don't know the music at all. You have a six-nine tattoo. - Six-nine tattoo and six-nine army. - Oh my God. - Really? - Yeah. - For Takashi? - He did it. - He did? - He did some of it, yeah. - Really? - Miami, after one of my fights, I was hanging out like Steve will do it. He's like, "You wanna meet six-nine?" - I was like, "Hell yeah." - Were you a fan of his before? You met him? - I like six-nine. - Yeah. - Did you do your hair because of him? - There was a lot of inspiration from six-nine. - Really? - Like crazy rainbow colors, like there was a lot of inspiration there. - Wow. - I feel like that's what, I feel like as far as a person who's fully outside the business of UFC, I feel like when you did that, you were on my feet every day from then on. - If he wasn't a good fighter, it wouldn't have been happening. - The fight, that fight I did that was, so it's COVID, so we were fighting at the Apex in Vegas, where I went from the fight before I was in a Norena, like 20,000 people, to my next fight was, there was like 800 people. Not even that, there was about 100 people in the Apex, the UFC, and it was a knock this dude out, hit him with the right hand, with the colorful hair, and he was snoring. You can literally hear him well. - No, crazy. - It was crazy. - That was just made use of it. - It definitely helped. - Was it just an exciting knockout, or was this like a big fight as far as the. - It was my third UFC fight, so it wasn't like a big fight in the rankings, it wasn't for the title, it wasn't this, it was this flashy knockout. - I had a lot of hype from coming off the contender series, from Snoop Dogg. - Okay. - Did you guys hear this? - No, just 'cause, yeah, talk. - I'll play two seconds of it. - Yeah, I know what you're gonna do. - You have the rights to it, right? - Look, I know what you say. - Oh! - And I don't wanna play too much, 'cause I'm gonna copy right there, it is. - I don't know, yeah. - That was when I first walked out, and then fast-forward in the fight, I don't remember at what point, but Snoop's, - Sean Milvicki, oh my God. - Yeah, you didn't know that. - That was crazy, yeah. - That was sweet. - And this was 2017, I mean, look at me, I look like a fucking, I really look like I'm 12th. - When you saw that for the first time, - Well, you do. - Were you like, "Ah, why did he say a little dickier?" Were you like, "No, okay, fuck it." - I had gotten that, I was always like, "Hey, that's a good thing." - Yeah, yeah. - I'm really happy about you. - You're out of your mind. - Much hotter version of this. - You should do Freaky Friday too, and you guys switch bad. - I thought about it, I thought about making an entire album of Freaky Friday. Same beat, 12 straight times, 12 different bodies switches, but I thought, "No one on earth, whatever." - Why did I think of that? - I think of a couple. - I know, I thought of that. - I got it. - Wait, do you ever get shit when you have the braids? - I never even thought about it. - Really? - I didn't even, I mean. - Well now, you're gonna think about it. - Well, no, I mean, when I first started braiding my hair, I never-- - This guy's from, I don't give a fuck, University. - Yeah, right? - I can't fight with hair in my eyes, I just can't stand it. Back, it was just, so when I started braiding my hair, it was like, to kind of get out of my eyes and I felt like I transformed from like, shond, like, sugar. Like, my hair is braided, I feel like sugar. I feel like a superhero, I feel extra sparse, my head. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Feel faster. - So you gotta go out there, ready to get punched. - Well, my main goal in a fight is not to. - Yeah, I guess that makes sense. - So inevitable? - It's-- - There's been-- I've had a lot of fights where I've been able to get out of their unscathed. - Never get punched? - I thought that was the whole thing. - I mean, the whole thing is like, hit and not get hit. Some people, most fighters, kind of like getting hit, I don't mind getting hit, fucking hate getting hit. - I don't wanna get hit. - Did you fight a lot as a kid? - No. Football, basketball, soccer, baseball, from when I was like three, four years old, all the way up to high school. - Yeah. - Turned 16, hated school. Had to get good grades to play basketball, football, school, sports, hated school. My buddy's like, you wanna check out this fighting gym? I'm like, that sounds cool. - How old? - I was 16. - He was in super insecure. Never fought, never-- - You were athletic. - I was athletic. - Super athletic? And I was super insecure kid going into high school. They'd go into my sophomore year, I think. And I was like, wow, literally, I was like, one of the first things that crossed my mind, I'm like, girls will think that's cool. Like, that was like-- - And you were getting zero girls. - I got a couple. - You got it, you got it. - Some of my prime years were high school. - You were, there were threes and fours, but-- - Yeah. - Have you ever gotten in a fist fight before going into that-- - No. - We never even got-- - Okay. - I didn't even think of fighting as fighting. Like, I thought of fighting as a sport. I thought of it as like, you know, I'm trying to win. - Right. - And it wasn't like, I want to fucking kill you. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - So you get there. And on your first time going there, was it like instantly, they were like, whoa, that guy's got something. So when I was 16, 17 years old, I was like kickboxing with these guys. I was athletically, I was just more athletic. So I was naturally kind of better than these guys. I was beating up guys that sucked. - Yeah. - So in my mind, I got this confidence. I was like, holy shit, I'm like, I'm good. - Yeah. - So I built this confidence 16, 17, 18 years old in Montana, fuck, 15, 20 times, kickboxing, MMA. Built this confidence up, came to Arizona and got my ass kicked. Literally, for like, I flew down for two weeks. Every practice I would cry. I was 18 years old. - You cry? - Cry after practice. I was the man in Montana, I came to Arizona, got my ass kicked, every single practice. - When you were crying, were you crying out of pain or were you like physical pain or were you crying out of fear that you actually weren't able to-- - There wasn't, there was times where I had like concussions and it was physical pain, like concussions are terrifyingly. If you've had a bad concussion and you would just want, to be pitch black, you don't want to have any light, like about bad concussions. But a lot of the crying was early on was, I don't have a plan B. I do not want to, I don't like school. Like, I'm not going back to school. I want to be an athlete. Thankfully, UFC MMA boxing, like there's weight classes. So I can, you know, I can't be in the NFL, I can't be in the NBA. I'm just not skilled, but I'm not big enough. That's just not realistic. I was able to, you know, feel those emotions cry. And then I was able to like, back to the gym tomorrow. Back to the gym tomorrow, two a days. Back to the gym in the morning. At home, take a nap, jack off, go to sleep. I know that routine. Yeah. Yeah. A warrior's spirit. A warrior's routine. So, do you, like, if you get a fight coming up, do you, do you jack off? He does have a fight coming up. Not the white dude. Oh, yeah. I know. I love that you asked this though. I know that. Yeah. So I have two answers for your jack off question. Yeah. I haven't jacked off in a year and a half. Well, what? I haven't jacked, having wet dreams though, right? No, I have a wife. Put a pound on her. But in camp now, I'm, I tell her I said, I said you get two nuts out of me a week right now. You can't, you get a Wednesday nut and a Saturday nut. Why? Because I spar Wednesday. I need my chi, I need my energy. Yeah. Oh. Remember what Kevin Gates said? You really feel like if you, if you release, it impacts your game. Oh, yeah. So I think it's scientific. Well, if you can let your chi build up and, you know, Kevin Gates is fucking actually, he's got a lot of jams. Oh, yeah. For sure. For sure. That's incredible. Why don't you tell Kristen about chi? No, I'm just, I can't believe it's, I cuz, you know, as a girl, sometimes you get bullied into the whole, like, blue balls can't focus thing. Oh. Not Dave, he doesn't do that. I just, like, you hear that so often. Blue balls is different. Blue balls is like attempting a man up until he's about to come in the middle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is just, like, not even engaging. Yeah, yeah. Just to keep the energy, to keep the focus. So you only, yeah. You only come twice a week. And camp, yeah. And camp. A lot of athletes are like this. I think it's not his thing. Yeah. I know. Yeah. That's what I would say. I bet if you asked a lot of people that probably don't think of it, I mean, it is scientific. I think it is. I think it is. Real keeping your chi. Yeah. If I fucking jacked off a Spartan, I'd probably be like, man, I'm going to kind of chill out a little bit. You held off for us. Well, and I have, I have, I, December, 2024. I was going through a bunch of, I have a wife. I've got a couple of kids. And we were going through some issues. And it was me just, I'm fucking, I'm, to be a fighter, you got to be a little crazy anyway, right? Yeah. I was having issues. December, 2024. I take these mushrooms. I have this, this, um, I'm like, okay, I need to, I got off social media. I haven't been on social media. Good for you. In a year since December, 2024, got off social media, quit J and off. And uh, it really changed my life. That's right. The social media thing though, it's like, tell us. You just see, for me, it was, it's like, you just, I, I get normal levels of horny throughout like life. But when I'm on social media, you see all the girls. And it, and it, I, it's my biggest weakness. And it's like, I can't help it. I'm. What does it make you think? Like, you just think these girls are all so hot that you just have to drive. I just want to drive. Barry, my three inches deep in 'em. - Three? - But you find that? - No, it's decent. - Okay, hey. - I mean, we're all probably the same size. Look at her hair. - I don't know. - I don't know the same one. - I don't know about that. - Well, he says things like, bury them, but he also said three inches, but I'm sure I have the smallest tip. - Yeah. - Would you have the best? - I do. I have the best of all three. - For her. - For her, and that's always the matter. - That's always the matter. - Everyone's at home. - So. (laughing) - So you were impacted, actually. - By skiing. - Yeah. - By skiing. - Oh, look. - Yeah. - You're just social media and a whole. - Yeah. - And I have two kids now, and I just, I don't wanna be. Like, if you see someone just kind of like surfing, like, if I see someone just surfing, like, I don't want to just be doing that. - Yeah. - A rather, you know, I still watch you. I don't have Instagram, TikTok, Snapchat, Facebook. I have someone that runs all my stuff. - Yeah. - I watch YouTube, and I still even almost feel guilty doing that. - Yeah. - If I catch myself, I'm like, "Fuck, I don't even, I'm trying to be, and I'm far from it, but I'm trying to just be more present." - Yeah. - And I think social media is being off that. - I'll do your kid. - Five, and my little dude turns one, this month. - Two boys? - Girl and a boy. - Yeah. - How's it feel? - It's good, it's the best. You guys don't have any kids. - No. - No, yeah. - No, yeah. - No, yeah. - One Sunday soon. - One Sunday soon. - One Sunday soon. - One Sunday soon. - One Sunday in army. - Yeah, that's what I wanna do. - I wanna do it. I wanna do it. I wanna do it. - Great. She didn't want kids. - Really? - Not gonna work. - Not gonna work. - Amazing. - Literally. - I've known I wanted kids for a long time. - How is it? - It's the best, dude. - Yeah. - It's the best. Little Mateo, he's got his two T-thrae or two teeth popping on the top, and it's just, it's so, watching them baby breastfeed, too. Is there something about that? It's just so fucking cute. - It's cool. - He'll be over there, and Danny'll be like, Mateo, and show him a boobie. He'll be like, I'm fucking screwed. Like crying fast enough. Watch on. - Yeah. - But having the right baby mama, having the right partner to raise kids is so like, I'm so thankful. I didn't knock up some random girl. - Yeah. - I would be miserable. - Are you, I mean, she's got to be a writer, Doc, 'cause she stuck with you through your troubles. - I put her through a lot. - She's the best. - And you're like, now you're like, repay. You're doing like, everything you do in my life is it. - I'm doing my best. - Did she get nervous when you fight? - She actually doesn't really get nervous. She watches me train, and I think there's this confidence she gets from watching me put in the work, to where my mom and dad get so nervous, 'cause they're never ever in the gym watching me. They've never seen what I do. - Yeah. - To where she watches, she watches me spa, she watches me train, and she, so she, like, at the fight, can breathe. - Yeah. - And she's watching me win, she's watching me lose, and she's good through it all. - So, like, what's going on right now? Are you like, dieting? - Are you? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, so right now I'm 160. How am I 160? - When do you have to wait for the fight? - 135. - Okay. - Which is insane. - This is my favorite game. - Wait, you have to, sorry, you have to lose weight. - I'm 160 right now, and I have to weigh in at 135 the day before the fight. - I understand the strategy, but then how is it, like, 12 hours later? - It takes 32 hours, or something like that. - Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. - So you have to fight, you have to get all your energy back. - Yeah. - I go from 135, I weigh in at 135, and then by the time I get in the octagon, I'm about 152, 153. - Yeah. - So you get, and then I'm even re-weight on my before heels, like 32 hours. - Wait, this doesn't make it, oh, someone should work on this, someone should fix this. - No, no, explain. So just tell her, I just want you to break down to her what the process is that week leading up to you. - Okay, okay, so I'll start at 160 where I'm at right now. I'm gonna lose 10 pounds from dieting, which is horrible because I have to train extremely hard. - Yeah. - And I have to burn more calories than I eat. Typically right now, like, I'm gonna be burning a lot of calories, you get hungry, but you have to eat a little bit less than you burn. So I'm gonna go from 160 to 150. - And then that breaks. - And then that's five minutes. - And it's exciting. - And yeah, it's very, I have a nutritionist, I weigh my food, it's 160 to 150. That's not horrible, that's not like the worst. It's not great because you get, you know, a little bit hungry, whatever. - But do you feel the calorie like deficit? - Yes, yes, yes. - But from 150 to 135, fight week is where, you know, your water loading, you're drinking two gallons of water for four or five days straight, and then you cut out salt on that Wednesday before the weigh-ins. So you basically, I'm gonna go from 150 to 135 in like four days, roughly. - That's a sport within itself. - Yes, it is. - It's a science, let hurt, not horrible. - So you lose the weight. - And the sun is in the bathtub. Explain it to us. - Your body becomes like a machine to like be made into - It's warm. - You literally feel like you're dying, you can feel your heart beating out of your chest. It's like when you're on, when I'm actually on weight, it feels like death. - Do you dread that part of it more than even the fight? - Yes. - It's the worst part of the whole thing. - It's just everybody feel that way. - Yeah, I remember when the dude was walking that, the dude who was walking and just like passed out. What was that dude's name? He was like, that was recent, right? I fought on that card. He weighed in, right? I was in the back, feeling like I'm dying. He weighed in and passed out, right? Before I went on a scale. - It's like psychological warfare. Why are you guys being, why are you guys putting yourselves - Because if I don't, I'm at the fight. - It disadvantage. - Is there a solution? Is there a solution? - That's whoever comes up with a solution, there's like a company in Japan, like 1FC where they try to weigh you in, weigh you randomly throughout camp and like you have to fight around that and you can't game like more than 10%. They're trying. - I have a solution. - Is here. - Everybody gets weighed right before the fight. Like they walk up to the arena, you know? If they don't make weight, then the fight is ruined and they've lost. I know it's a risky proposition. - What is that? - It's a risky, but it's not bad. - But then you're never gonna be that weak going in because you have to get off that scale and go fight the guy. - It's not a bad idea. - So everyone just shows up exactly how they are. They can be professional. Maybe you make like a little bit of buffer. I don't know how much buffer there is between like the way you have to hit. Maybe it's a pound extra buffer. - It's not bad idea. - You know, it's a way in right before you get on in the locker. That would be risky though. - For it commercially. - It would be, but that's not a bad idea. - How well 100 people are not making weight? - It's not, it's not too bad. - So I think my solution is a real solution. - I think it's not bad. - Tell Dane. - I've talked to him. But I don't know. And more, it's like so much more logical and of the spirit of what I think sports is, which is like the greatest level. - If you're a way any person to understand if it's a fair fight with the weight, it should be like, you have to walk in and fight when you're getting that actual number. - Maybe there's science behind it. 'Cause maybe people, maybe there, maybe you did it right then people would like do it last minute and then be weak when they fought. - That's like, don't you have to do that? - You have to do that. - And you're starting to get crushed. You're about to fight at the White House, which has probably never happened before in the history of America. Tell us about that fight. - Yeah, I don't know how it came about. Trump's been at multiple of my fights. Like I've seen him. He's not a lot of fights. He's been at UFC fights for a long time and I think he told Dane out. Let's do a fight at the White House. I don't know if he said it jokingly or whatever, Dane, I don't know if he has no Dane. - He's intense. - Yeah. - He's the man. He's such a cool motherfucker. He's a great boss. He gets shit done, like doing COVID. When all the sports shut down, we were still fighting. That's when I fought that kid. When I knocked him out, I was like, and no one was there. - Yeah. - So he was still letting athletes fight and during COVID. But he's the man. But he's, Trump said he wants to fight at the White House. Dane is like done, we're making it happen. And that was last year sometime. And now it's on Trump's birthday. - June 14th. It's Freedom 250. And. - Oh yeah, 250 years of America. - Are you the main event of this fight or not? - No, no. - Ilya Taporia versus Justin Gachi. So the main event, massive fight. But yeah, very honored to be on it. It's gonna be legendary. There's only seven fights on the card, which is usually there's 12. It's only seven. It's outside. - Outside, yeah, I didn't even fight outside like that. - I have fought outside when I was a young amateur, like 18, 19 years old in Montana. That was the last time I fought outside. - Was that a fact, anything? - It definitely will if it rains. But outside of it, not at all, no. - It's not gonna be a hot summer day. - It will be humid. - Yeah, it's like. - Are you preparing insanas? Are you guys like fighting insanas? - No, but I do sonop like five times a week. I love my sonop. - It's great. - Do you have a question about the people you fight? Are you friends with any of them? - No. - No question. - So it's truly like as in the history of fighting, can you ever be like friendly with them? - There's been friends that had to fight. You know, for me, like there's guys, in the band to my division, the division I'm in. I'm ranked number three. Like my buddy Mario's ranked number seven. Like there's guys in my division that like there's, it's possible. I mean, I feel like I'm in a position to where I'm like, I wouldn't really ever have to. - Do you have a way to avoid friendships? Is it because you don't even want to have that in your hand when you're fighting these guys? - Not really. Like the chances of you two friends actually having the fight are very slim. Like, just like. - I'm surprised. - Yeah. - Why aren't you guys all hanging out? - 'Cause you guys all know, you all know of each other and. - There's just so many jams across the world, really. Like there's guys that live in Russia and Thailand. - Yeah. - All over the world. - Did you win number one? - I was champ. I was champ, defend of the belt. - So you've been, so you've been the highest level. - You've been number one. - So was that like? - Yeah. - I'm number three right now. I was number one. August, 2023, I won the belt. Defended it March, 2024. Lost it in June of last year. - How heartbreaking is it to lose the belt? - I mean, losing the belt sucked, but just losing in general. - Just fucking sucked. - Yeah. - It was horrible. - It was horrible. - Twice. - You've only lost. - Yeah. - I mean, it depends. Twice is the real answer, yes. - Well, what's the controversy? - The other real answer. - Yeah. - So my fourth UFC fight, I fought this, I fought Cheeto Vera. He kicked this nerve on my knee right here. It's like this weird little nerve. And my foot went numb. And like, I literally kept rolling my ankle. And it's, I hate watching it back. 'Cause I literally, my foot, I didn't have, God, I have a hole in my sock. I didn't have this motion. 'Cause the nerve shut off. So every time I'd walk, I'd roll my ankle. Bad. And like, I went to punch, fell on my back, he elbowed me in the head. They stopped the fight. Yeah. I get one. why you don't count that as a loss. - And I always, I kept saying this happened in 2020. And I kept saying, I'm like, I'm better than that motherfucker. He got lucky, blah, blah, blah. First title defense. He wins a fight, he gets a title shot. I'm the champ at the time, and we have the rematch. The biggest gate in Miami history. - The massive. - The massive sold out arena, a huge fight. - Yeah. - He's from Ecuador and Miami that side. It was a massive fight, and I beat the fuck out of him for 25 minutes. And it felt so, that was the only time I actually had like, I wanna hurt someone, I didn't like him. - Yeah. - 'Cause in the first fight how it played out, he was acting like he was this man. He beat me. - And you beat the shit out of him. - So I don't count that as a loss. - But do you win that fight at a 25 minute fight? - You'd be the fuck out of him. - Oh yeah. - Were you so happy? - It felt so good. - And was it like a lecture? It was like a four year buildup of me saying that motherfucker got lucky. I'm better than him, and the people are like, well, did you have a rematch? - Yeah. - He doesn't deserve the rematch. I mean, he doesn't deserve a rematch. I didn't like how he was acting. He was acting like he beat me, like he was the man. - I love you, bitch. - And I beat the, oh dude, it was the craziest knee. - Knee? - I saw your knee to what? - Knee to what? - Head, chin. - When you stood up just now, I heard both your knees crack. Is that gonna be an issue? (laughing) - Okay, let me show you all the pain. (laughing) - What? - You hear that? - But this isn't there's something. - Do you think you're defending yourself from that? - Did his face concave? Did it all go? - Oh, it looks so cool. - Oh my God. - Just watch it, we know. - This is the guy that-- - I can't. That's brutal. - Whoa. - Whoa. - Summer time, time to outdoor furnish, and I know a company, Wayfair, that will really assist us. - Are you talking like that? - 'Cause I'm ready to sell. - I have to say, I do love Wayfair's options. - Yeah. - And I send you a few options for a little, you know that little space outside of our pool. - Oh no. - You know what? 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Start designing today at Canva.com. - Has anyone ever died in the UFC? - I don't think so in fighting in general. - Yeah, yeah. - There's like points involved in different, like you go in kind of having like a choreographed plan. - You can have like a plan, Mike Tyson says, everyone has a plan to like punch in the face. - Yeah. - And that's kind of true. But there's game plans you want to stick to, like certain styles match up against different people. Like I've had so many fights in UFC and this guy, I'm fighting so many fights in UFC, you can watch enough film that you get, you know, people have patterns. People have like do this, do certain things. So there's, there's game plan you can make, according to how, you know, people fight. Some people have known as like great game planners and like that's their thing where they're just like, great tough guys and they can't get knocked down. - Yeah. - What's the, yeah. - Is anyone known for their knee? Like that guy's got the bonyest knee, and if you get hit by him, you're done. - I'm sure you guys saw Jorge Mazzaroli knock down Ben Asperger. He was like the, it was three-second fight. - Yeah. - It was like the fight. - Oh yeah, it was two down. - Ran, yeah, that's a legendary knee that's not, now, have you ever gotten like, hit in the face and you're like in the ring and you're just rocked your world and you're just like, oh my God. Like, and it's like, yeah. - Oh yeah. - And you're like, how am I gonna, - What's the feeling in your head? - Yeah. - And you're just got rocked like that. You're still up, and the guy's coming at you. What's going through your head? - There is, so that Peter Young, the guy that's the champ right now, when I fought him in Abu Dhabi in the second round, I came out, boom, cracked him hard. What rocked him, hit him with the right hand, dropped him, fast forward like 45 seconds. We're both standing there. And he hits me with a left hand and you literally see, it's right on the chin. You see my head completely like, turn all the way around. - Yeah. - And that was probably the hardest I've been hit, but it didn't hurt. - How do you know that? - When you sit back to this moment, is it like, I don't even know this. - But when you sit back to this moment, it's a good question. I hear that cry. You sit back to this moment. Is it like a flash the way like, if I drank a little and I woke up the next day and I don't remember a certain thing? Like, are you able to actually remember the moment specifically or not really? - It's pretty blurry. - Yeah. - It's very blurry. - Yeah. - If me and Dave, oh good up right now, like, and like, punch the air, would you be able to tell like, who a better fighter was or no, not really. - No, probably not. No, 'cause that doesn't, sometimes it comes down to who's got more heart. - Okay. - Oh. - Okay, okay. You go first. - You wanna make it one? - No, no, no, no. You get to do a little dance. - Yeah, just go, yeah, 10 seconds. - Okay, okay. - I'm gonna do a two. - For your self-paw. Are you right-hand to left-hand it? - You can't see. - Okay. - Ooh. - Not bad. - Decent. - Wow. - Oh shit. - That's good. - You sit footwork. - What? - Damn. - Okay, okay, okay. - It was semi-slow until you, but when the right hook was-- - I'm gonna fast-twitch. - I sell the fast-twitch. - I'm gonna fast-twitch. - I want Kristen too out. - You fainted me. - Okay, okay. - Did it feel like, was it hard? - I was, I'm not. - How did you have it? - I tired. - I was so stressed. - You're self-paw too. - I am? - Yeah. - I'm self-paw. - I feel left with you. - He was too. - Okay, so. - Ooh. - Wow. - Okay. - You're more like my Tyson style. - Wow. - I'm no longer bad, I'm more a Jiu-Jitsu or whatever, you know? - You're more of a long fighter. He was more of like a Mike Tyson. - Let's see. - What? - Oh. - Damn. - Not terrible. - I thought it's terrible. - There was no left hand, it was on him right hand. - At least we know we're in a higher, we know we're like-- - See, one's all, one-- - Now I will tell you one thing. - Like, that made me tired. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - That got me tired, it made me-- - Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. - About five. - Okay. - Don't make me sweat. - How long is that? - Check, I'm actually like, my arms are tired right now. - Are your arms-- - Are your arms-- - Are your arms tired? - Are your arms tired? - When I took boxing once, here's the thing I really did like, is like, there's like a Corey, well it's not the same, it's boxing, it's not. - No, you're doing a lesson where you're like, lean left. - Yeah, I love it, it was like-- - He was doing boxing, yeah. - You know, like a workout, boxing workout? - Actually in a boxing gym. - Yeah, a lot of people do, they don't fight or they don't, you know, wanna fight, but they do workouts for boxing. - Yeah, yeah. - It's so exhausting. - Just sit down. - I got two seconds. - One thing is like, you, like, so like right now, just like looking at you, you look like just like-- - A bitch. - No, you look like-- - Kind of. - Just like a normal dude, like you don't have like, the biggest, like, your trainer, like, I'm like, whoa. - Yeah. - That guy's cute, but like you have like a normal arm, like, so what, so it doesn't, the big guy, it doesn't, there's a whole, you know, there's different weight class. - No, no, no, I'm aware, but like, but like, you're not like the most, like, cut off this fuck. - Yeah, like, you're like, six, half, half? - No, I'm just fat. - Can you punch the air? I just got to watch you. - Right now, like, right now I'm not like too fast, but-- - Yeah. - Just too slow. - And like, just, can you punch the air one time? - Not, I mean, you're putting on this fuck. - Yeah, I'm just like, you don't punch me in the face. - Sometimes I put pick-a-ball. Now, if you, if I stood up, like, right here, and you like, what are you most known for? You're kicker, you're punch. - I would say most known for right hand knock people out. So, like-- - I knew that about you. - So, that's a peripheral fan. - So, like, right now, like, I'm pretty big hands, too. Like, I'm pretty good at that. - Yeah, I notice that when you came in, they're big hands. - Oh my God, you're a freak. Yeah, I'm pretty big hands. - No, why are they so big for you, son? - I'm just for knock people out. - Yeah. - Me. - Yeah. - Now, what do you think? - So, my thing is, my thing is pretty good. - I do. - Like, right now, right now. If you, if you like, punched me in the face, like, like, full punch, you're like-- - Yeah, what did I do? - No, the thing, the thing, like, if you knew I was gonna punch you, you probably wouldn't be as bad as, you know, the punch-- - I think it would be just as bad. - When you don't know-- - When you don't know. - I don't know if I could kill someone with a punch. - What do you mean, you're big hands? - I think, oh man, snore. - I think Francis Nignano. - Yeah, no, Francis Nignano. - Yeah, I think he would kill somebody. - Yeah, 'cause like, if you just, just don't punch me. I just want to see, no, no, I just want to see, like, what it's like. - Oh yeah, I just, oh my God, even like that, even that little moment. - It's just like, it's like, rock me a little. - Sometimes like, it's like, these shots, like, all right, feel it, feel it. - Let me do that, do, yeah. - It's like, you kind of like, when you hit-- - Oh my God, already, don't you? - I don't know, I feel it. - No, no, no. - If you did that, that's a weird smile to get hit. - Yeah, I was sending it. - So that's your-- - I have a bony head, I have a bony head. - I'm sorry, I'm weird. - I don't know. - I'm sorry, I'm weird, I'm weird, I think, if you did that to me, I think at 15%, I might, you die, I'd have to, like, lay down. - The weirdest ones are the liver shots. - Oh yeah, I was at that fight. - Oh yeah. - Dude, I was at the fight when Ryan Garcia got that. Wait, so show me that. - It shuts you down. - Oh my God. - Do you think, I was like, look, I'm gonna give it all up and train as hard as I can for the next, like, two years at 36. I'm kind of athletic, sometimes. I mean, that was a bad display, I'm not really sure the technique. I'll say this, if you took Jiu-Jitsu, straight to Jitsu, where Jiu-Jitsu is, like, kind of, like, on the ground, where you can submit people and you could choke people. - Yeah. - You took Jiu-Jitsu for two years, took a dead serious, and he didn't do anything. - I could be dumb. - You could, you would be able to beat him up. - Wow, I'm sorry. - I don't know. - 100%. - 100%. - No, okay. - The girls, the girls are getting good. Like, now you're below the guy's wish, like, nowadays, the girls are fucking so-- - Maybe it was a totally appropriate question. - If there was a girl who was the best girl who was in a much heavier way class than you, do you have a shot? - Yes, I still win. - It's just like, the difference between-- - Yeah, it's just-- - Yeah, well, it's just-- - Yeah, same rules. - Same rules too. - Yeah, these girls get fucking, the girls don't really knock each other out too much either, so it's almost more brutal. - Yeah. - Yeah. - 'Cause they just fucking hit each other. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Oh my goodness, they're all so-- - They're probably really quick too. - Do you think if I trained for like a year and I like went under your guy's tutelage, like do you think there's a world where like, I'm like fucking a dude up in the street. - Oh, I'm sorry. - It doesn't take, if you, it depends how you're level of commitment. If you're going to the gym twice a day for a year. - That's a day. - Is that one? (laughing) - It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a day. I mean, that's what it takes to get good. - No, I mean, like, I'm going like-- - Three times a week. If you did three times a week for a year, you could get good. - Yeah, 100% day, you fucking out of your room. - Yeah, that was great. - That was crazy. - Twice a day. - Twice a day, I'd be, I'd be, I'd be dead. - All that training can get him courage. - Yeah. There's something that takes courage. There's, so do you. You look good. - I do not have good courage. - I've been fighting, but you have good life courage that I think could transfer. - Zero percent fight courage. Never been in a fight, never could imagine it. I can't, I've never been in a fight outside the ring. - No. - Never? - No. For the same way, I couldn't grab a mic, and I hate that I wish I could sing. I wish I could perform. I wish I could rap, I wish I could-- - I guess I have courage there. - I could not even stand in front of a crowd with a mic. - I forgot about that. - But you're nervous at all when you go out. - But naked almost in the octagon, right? - I do hate that. I always think when I watch these fighters fight, because I used to have such bad body acne. I was like 32 years old. And I always thought, "Oh my God, I would be so exposed." - Yeah. - I used to do concerts, and I would have to wear a baseball jersey, because I could show a little bit of skin, but I'll have to loosen my back. And sometimes a crowd would chant, "Take it off, take it off." - Do some things. - Do some, do some people do? - Do any guys wear body makeup? I don't think so. - Okay. - Maybe. - When you're in there, you don't give off. - You don't get my spray tan? - You sweat it all off. - I'm not kidding. - You wear a cup, I have been hitting the nuts, and it's getting hitting the nuts is horrible. I'm sure you get it. - Even with a cup. - Even with a eagle. - You can't hit the nuts, you can't eye gouge, you can't put your fish hook, no thumbs in the butt. - No thumbs in the butt. - A thumb in the butt is a rule. - Very frown upon. - I don't know what it is. It's probably frown upon. - No licking, no biting. - No licking, no spitting. - Like, here's what I would do. Okay, here's my thing. I'm coming in. - He's gonna run around like this. - No, I'm coming in, and I'm stinking like shit. - Just this before. - Is there a benefit? Is there a benefit to stinking like shit? - I wonder if they want to beat the fuck out of you more. - Really? - Yeah. - Like, what are my rinses? - Stinking like, you don't want me to take some of that stink. - Yeah, and you're also doing that like, they're so in the zone. You probably can't even smell it. - Yeah, really? - Is it, to your advantage, like, if you're like really a sweaty guy, and the brush is like fly off? - More so in the wrestling grappling department. - Yeah, yeah. - But striking, not as much. - Are you sweaty? - I don't sweat. I would say average amount. - You ever had a headache before entering it? - Oh, I've had, I've been fucked. I've, I've, a lot of fights I've had injuries. - Really, and you just-- - You ever wanted to take a shit or something, you're like fuck. - My stomach just feels not like it's good as I've acid reflex a little bit. - It's during a multiple times. - Like, we kind of puked up. - Oh, no. - And again, it's the rehab, like, cutting all that weight so crazy on your body and the rehydration, and it's like, it fucks your body up. So there's been times where you're saying, oh god, I don't feel great. - But you get a surge of adrenaline. Like, when you like step out? - I feel like adrenaline in the octagon a little bit, but not too much. Like, I'm pretty calm. Like, if you watch my fights, watch my walkouts. I'm very, I kind of have this calm demeanor, like, yeah, I'm pretty-- - Now, after the fight, you just won. - What are you doing after this fight? - I love a shower. After I win. Oh, I just-- - Yeah. - So it's the sh-- it's the sh-- - After the fight, after wins, the lose, the last showers are not there. There's like-- - I've only got to sit on the ground, I've only got to sit there. - Yeah, they suck. But after the win, what are you doing? - Oh, I talked to myself, I'm like, we did it. - You're just looking in the mirror. - Are you watching? - Are you like, are you like even watching yourself or no? You're just showering. - I'm, you know, it's a little bit so-- - To the actors when you go after-- - To the actors when you go after a club after. - Oh yeah. - So you get sh-- - Are you just like, I'm the fucking man. - Oh yeah. You feel-- do it after a win. You make a-- you make a fuck ton of money. You just want to fight, you've been training for it for eight weeks. - Yeah. - And it's all over the sense of relief. - Yeah. - It probably feels like it after like a concert or something, like just sense of relief. - Do it the more. - It's like, everything-- so do you have sex that night or no? - Oh, hopefully with lots of sex. - Real lots of sex. - Yeah. - Really, you're not too tired? - No, and through sex? - Yeah, well, that's after it. - He's got-- he's got-- he's got-- he's got a regimen. - You can just want to sit on the couch. - Yeah. - Floyd's a boxer, right? - Yes. - He's a boxer. - He's never lost. - He's never lost. - You never fight, Floyd, me, whatever. - Oh, 100% I would-- I mean, box or fight. - Well, there's boxing. He's-- even though he's like fucking addicted, he's still so good at it. - Because it's-- it's-- it's-- it's-- it's your-- it's your same weight class. - He's a little more. - He's probably the same. He-- he's pretty short, but we're probably like-- I'm-- I'm super skinny, too. - Speaking of sports. - And random sports. Even though it's not that random, every four years, you know we got big soccer matches. I think it's okay to call them matches. And what I like to do is I like to go on Fandall predicts app and just predict the outcome and win. Obviously, I'm from America, I'm American made, and USA has Paraguay coming up. So I-- I don't know if I'm just being naive or-- or from that big of a patriot, but I think we're going to win. That's my prediction. So I'm going to go on Fandall app, I'm going to make this Fandall prediction. I stand to win. These are real stakes, and this is real life. I'm going to win. And so is America. But you can't-- you can't-- you couldn't be boxers, could you? At a certain level, I-- I came from kickboxing boxing, my background's more of a boxing style. You would destroy Floyd May, whether in UFC. And like UFC, like he-- - Within a couple minutes. - Yeah, he couldn't-- but in boxing, like he'd still probably take you. It'd be interesting, he's getting older, you know what I mean? You ever get scared, like, are you ever at home and you hear like a sound and you think, "Oh, no." - Yes, because I have kids. - Okay, but you know you could just beat anybody up. - Not if they have a gun, guns, so-- - Yeah. - You could kick the gun out before they could even-- yeah, like-- - You got guns? - Oh, I got multiple guns. - Yeah, I got-- yeah. - But you-- - Sorry, I just took a scare, you know? - You ever walked on the street and been like, "That man is huge, I'm scared of him?" - Not really. I've never had issues outside. Like, if I ever wanted to a club or something, I've never had issues, everyone's pretty nice. - Yeah. - In the most part. - Yeah, no one's going to want to press him. - No, I feel like drunk people would come up to you all the time and be like, "Can I-- - I've had it like once or twice. I just avoid it. I don't like conversation." - I'm actually surprised it doesn't happen more with you because you're so well-known, guys get drunk. - Yeah. - And you're just not physically that big, so there's probably a lot of big dudes. - A lot of big dudes, too. - I'm surprised it doesn't happen as much either. I'd like to think, when I get-- if I do, I don't drink that often, very rarely. If I do, I feel-- I'm just like, "I want to hug ya." - I'm like, "Bro, let's go." - Like, you can't-- it's great. - If a guy, like, no normal person, can beat you up. - A normal person, right? - No, it's not, it's trained. - Yeah, no. - Like, if there's a-- even like an NBA player that's not trained. Like, if a guy's like, "66," and like, he's like an NBA player, like, he can't beat you up. - It would be interesting. I mean, they'd get tired. - I talked to him. - I asked Ryan because we were with Ryan and he was talking about Jimmy Butler and he's like, "Yeah, he's like, I beat the shit." He's like-- he's like, there's a certain point when weight becomes an issue. He's like, "Shack would be hard." But he's like, "Honestly, he said it wouldn't be that hard." He's like-- because as long as you can-- he said what he would do is-- he was like, "I would just defend myself because any guy, unless you're a trained fighter, you're getting tired very quick." - Yeah. - Well, Ryan can't fight. - Well, he can bop. - Yeah, that's what I feel sad about. - Yeah, a question. - So you see guy like, "Wiz Khalifa." - Yeah. - Okay, and he does-- what's he doing? - Yeah, he's training. - What is that? - It looks like he's doing-- - I'm not-- - I know what you're talking about. - I know what I kick in stuff. - So, like, a guy like that, if you, like, spar with him, and you're going like 25% or about people going as well, will he be able to do it with you without getting incredibly hurt? - If I didn't want to hurt him, I would. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Like, could you go at 25% and he's-- - Did you want to hurt him at 25%, he's basically saying, "It's basically-- it's basically 25% of you." - No, I was just wondering, "Pickleball is a sport." - Where? - Where? - When, if someone walks on, they can play almost with anyone immediately. Like, I'm saying, if somebody starts training, and they've been training for a little while, and they get in, can they, like, do a spar thing? And not trying to-- not saying they're going to beat you, but are they, like, will they be capable enough to, like, do something that's, like, fun for everyone? - Yeah, I think so. - Yeah, I mean, that's all I wanted. - I'm not a violent person in any way. I never have any, like, desire to be violent, but I do have this fantasy of being in a situation in life, where somebody is in the wrong, and we're, like, in a street when I'm fishing it, like this. And I just slap the man across the face as hard as I can, and people see it, and everyone is so happy that I slapped him. It's so justified, and I walk away. He doesn't do anything, and that's it. - Just a hero moment. - Yeah, that's a slap. - That the slap was so not convincing. - Oh, oh, I think so. - I'm slapping someone's not as, I feel, like, illegal. - Like, if I wanted to punch someone, like, they'd probably fall, but if I slap someone's, like, you're a bitch. - But on the note of illegal, remember how I asked him if I do what it's illegal, but, like, boxers have to have their, you know, registered, or is that just a matter? - I'd assume that there's some truth to it that, like, if you're a professional fighter, that you're considered a weapon or something. - Basically, if you got in a fight, in a street fight, and he didn't ask for it, but he got in the fight, and he knocked the guy out. - Boom. - Even though it was self-defense, and the guy actually died. - Oh. - He might have worse litigious situation. - You're not supposed to-- - Because his hands are maybe a deadly weapon. I don't know how to utilize it. - I remember hearing that, it's fun. I remember hearing that when I was like 16, 17 years old, when I first started training, they're like, oh, now you can't get in street fights 'cause you're considered a weapon. I'm like, I'm never hearing that and there's kind of some truth to it. - 'Cause you just, it's hard to draw the line of like what's gonna win me this fight versus knock this guy out, versus accidentally kill this man? - The thing about being so high level though is like if I got in a street fight, I wouldn't punch somebody. I might hit him in the body, I might hit him with a liver shot, where they just crumble, or I'd realistically take someone down and put him in a submission kind of to where they take their back, choke him, say. - What's the best thing for her? - What's your daddy? - Yeah. - What's your daddy? - Yeah. (laughing) - What's the best thing we could do if we got into a fight? Like what's our, what's your, hit him in the ball, submission, submission? - Balls, I mean, I just-- - Like ball. - If you, I would just need to learn Jiu Jitsu. Everyone-- - Jiu Jitsu. - Every Jiu Jitsu? - Yeah, Jiu Jitsu. Jiu Jitsu is the best, like, my daughter's in Jiu Jitsu. She's five. - What is Jiu Jitsu? - Jiu Jitsu. - Jiu Jitsu's, uh, Jiu Jitsu, who's that? - Jiu Jitsu. - Tom Brady is that one. - Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. - And that's how she met her. Her father is. - I liked Jiu Jitsu. - I liked Jiu Jitsu. - If I walked behind you and you had no idea. Oh, wow. - And I put you, I'd go like this. - No, don't do anything like Jiu Jitsu. - It's intentionally. - I'd go like this and come to my neck and grab your own. - So you can't choke me. I feel like they're, like, racist, like, when you go on a race and, like, a fast burn or my give a guy head start and still win the race, you gave me the head start of choking as hard as I can. Would you have no doubt that you'd still end up in top in like five seconds? - Yeah. - That's cute, it's like a nice, it looks like. - I just saw him in that moment. I just saw you switch and your eyes, you were going like this. You were like, and you were looking around. Were you like assessing the situation? - I mean, instantly if someone were like, first thing you do is grab in the hand on the neck, because you need this arm to choke me, that was the first thing I would do is grab that hand. - Even me? - What should she do when I do that? - What should she do when a man comes up and where to try something? What's the first thing she should do? - Elbow to the nuts, Bri. - Yeah. - If possible, well, if he comes up, like, behind you, like, kind of grab you, I would, I mean, I would, whatever, where he's at, hit him in the nuts, and that would be, like, probably the number one thing. - Yeah. - But I have to hit really hard, right? - I mean, that's not a good situation. But if you had a blue belt, if you did Jiu-Jitsu for two years, I would be very confident that you would be able to submit, like, an average size. - Really? - So what is a box cutter? - Wow. - Box cutter would be nice. - What is Jiu-Jitsu? - Jiu-Jitsu is, it's submission, like, what's it look like? - So, if we were to do Jiu-Jitsu, we're just, like, kind of, slap hands, and then we would, like, we'd go live, so basically, I would try to take you down, or you would try to take me down. - Oh, is this the one where you go like, that, or no, that's in our way? - Well, it's wrestling, but with submission, so, like, so if I grabbed your head right 'cause this for, for instance, I would grab you and I'd choke you, like, that hurt. - When you say submission, you just mean someone's got to submit. - Someone's tap out. - Yes, I got to submit. - I got to file a lose. - So, what if that person doesn't want to give up? - Then you choke him out and unconsciously go, "Okay, ref goes, the ref goes." - You know, instantly when he did that, I feel a soreness, right here. - So, if you're like, choke, so-- - And so, Jiu-Jitsu is the best form of, like, self-defense. - Yes, 100%. - Have you been just chomping at the bit to get that belt back? - It's been, so, I lost the belt and then I fought for it again. I fought the same guy at a rematch. She beat me again. - What's his man's name? - Marab. - And it is a nice guy. - He's from Georgia. - That's fucking noses Duvallish-Willy. - Okay, so he's a Georgian guy. I fought him. The first fight was a close fight. It was a very close fight. I almost finned, I almost hit him in the body in the fifth round. In the title fight, you fight for 25 minutes. There's five, five minute rounds. At the end of the fifth round, I was hitting him in the body shot. He's run around the cage, I almost got him out of there. - Almost had him. - Lost a decision. Had a rematch, so that fight, I went into the fight with a torn laborer in my hip. I literally had surgery scheduled for the week after the fight, because I fought my torn laborer in my hip. Got surgery, recovered for surgery, fought him again. The timing was, I was so antsy and I wanted to get back so bad, and it was just, I rushed myself. He defended the belt, he fought another really, really tough guy, so he's active, he's training, he's winning fights. I booked the second fight with him, and he actually choked me, I stepped out and that sucked. - Do you think you can beat him? - Yes, I know. - But are you just like, restless until you're back on top? Does that mindset just take over? For me, I'm just like until I prove myself and all these things, like I can't rest. Or do you feel like you've already proved yourself one time, you were at the top, and now everything else is kind of icing. - Yeah, that's a great question, and it is a little bit of both. I just fought in January, I was coming off the two losses in a row, and I'd never come off two losses in a row, and there was this desire, like I have to fucking get a win. I was associating too much with being a fighter, but I also, I feel like understand that happiness is a skill, and it's like what I let my brain think of, and if I'm constantly just dwelling on that, I definitely feel anxious, or if I'm like, okay, be grateful for what I already have, be grateful for what I have, I have fucking just built a crazy house, I have these kids, I have, I'm married, life's good, I can be in that mindset more, I'm definitely more at peace, but it switches throughout days, weeks, I need to get that win back, and it's kind of both. - Are you projecting, like, you know, because you're a professional athlete, there's a shelf life of an age, you're always thinking about, what am I going to do, and I'm 40 in that period, I'm thinking about just, obviously, you build a brand. - What do you, when do most people stop? - Everyone's different, I'm 31 right now, I could literally fight, like there's Daniel Kormay, won the heavyweight belt when he was 39, or 40, like, that's young or no, not as poor as before. - That's very old for fighting, fighting the young man's sport, like 15, 26, like these killers are coming up, and they're getting better, younger. - Yeah. - So I'm 31 right now, and it's so hard to say, like, where it is, I could have one more fight, I could have two more fights, I could have 10 more fights, like I really don't know how my body feels. - You're not really thinking about it, like, you're going in, like, you're taking each fight as a con. - Each fight at a time, but there is thoughts, it's like, okay, like how, like, this training brutal, training camps brutal, cutting weight is horrible. - Yeah. - I don't have to fight anymore. I do it because I love it, and I was watching this Conor McGregor documentary last night, I was actually watching a little bit of this morning for inspiration, motivation, like Conor always is, like, I feel like I'm so lucky because I've been in the sport. I watched Conor from when he got in the UFC, to where he's at now, watched his rise, and I get this, like, and I was watching him just at the weigh-ins for when he fought Jose Aldo, sold out arena in Vegas, and was like, I still crave that, I still work that. - Yeah. - I still, of course. - Of course. - So it's still there. - Yeah, I get that. - Yeah, everyone gets, you know that feeling, it never goes away. I hope it does. - Eventually. - Eventually. - Yeah, you'll probably get to a place where you're like, you know, it's like I still have it in me, but it might not be, like, it will, what my balance, I don't know what my speed, because my speed is really what I, my number one attribute in, like, if my speed kind of starts coming down, like, that's what I need to exit the game. But we have such a cool gym, Tim owns the gym, 20 minutes from our house, we have a bunch of up-and-coming fighters, like, I still feel like-- - It's in Monten. - In Arizona. - In Arizona, yeah, so I still feel like I have a lot to give back to the MMA community in that sense and help build up these young fighters. - Yeah. - And I'll be around the sport, but I'm also obsessed with pickleball right now. I'm like, well, I'm-- - Yeah, I'm-- - I think you're good. - Are you good? - I'm decent for not playing very long. - Yeah, yeah. - I'm building a pickleball court at my house now. I got the guy coming out Monday to play the pad on me. - Wow. - It's so cool. - We could play it. - Like, I think, I think, like, us together could be you and your friends. - No way. - Zero extensions. - You have such an eye. I think there's a very good chance both of us together would be you and your friends. - Why do you think you're better than pickleball? - Yeah, pickleball. - Yeah, why do you think? - You guys, I don't answer that. - No. - He's so athletic. - I'm so excited. - No, no. - He's got such good height that you guys are not. - No. - You either decent at pickleball? - Yeah. - Yeah. - Where do you-- - Hold on, hold on, hold on. First off, you're talking to a two-year tennis captain. - Yeah. - Okay, that changes. - It's a bourbon field off you. - My brother was a division one tennis player. - Yeah, I mean, that kind of helped. - I'm 100% sure. Me and Dave together on a team would beat most normal people. - I wish we had pickleball here because he's not a normal person. - I know. It's great pickleball. - He's not normal. - Let me put into perspective. My friend was 150th best tennis player in the world. He was a professional tennis player. Those are the best people in the world. He's 150th in the world. He came and he played pickleball with us and he sucked. And then he became good and he's like a decent player. - No, he could be as good as he wanted. - Yeah, if he wanted to, he could be. - Well, paddle-y is. - Unbelievable. I like a one with a, I'm a thick boy. - A thick paddle? You know like the brand? Do you have like a specific brand? - No, no. My friend has a company. - God, if you had said a name, I would have been, oh, shit. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I don't know the brands. You're right. - I don't really know. - I do think, I do think, I do think, though, that's like, I think we'd have good, I think, I think you're thinking you're a lot better than what we've had. - I just have had so many people come to, we own the pickleball courts, we have four courts. Right next to our gym, it's called the pickle dojo, it's fucking dope. - Yeah. - And we've had so many people come in and they're like, "No, I'm good." And then we play with them and I'm like, bro, you just, you can barely hit over the net. Like, I don't know why people think like that. - That's what I'm assuming. - No, you're a pretty good basketball, aren't you? - I can ball. - You still hoop? - I can ball. - I just want to see your hand a little. Like, let me get it back. - Where's the basketball? - I just want to see your better athlete. - Chuck, where's your, no, it's not. No, it's. - You know your basketball check. - I'd be pretty quick, I'm in my room. - He's good at tennis. - I'm basketball. - It's not my room. I have unbelievable hand-eye coordination. Like, I guarantee you you're better at basketball than me, probably, but-- - I can ball. - But I bet you you're not a better shooter than me. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I know that you're more athletic in every combine version-- - Just a three point shot. - Yeah, like that. - I have a decent shot, but I'm more of like a playmaker. I can like-- - You're so good. - I'm a player, I'm a playmaker. - See, I mean, it's like-- - I mean, I was just slam down. (laughing) - You know what time it is. - It really comes around every four years and it keeps on coming. - Mm, I know what you're talking about. - Soccer. - Or football. - Yep, but we're in America. I'm Ron T. USA, and we got a lot of countries to work. - Ooh, I'm not sure if that's who I would predict. - Really? - Well, I don't know. - I'm going for Spain. I got a cousin from Spain, so that's my place. - What about France? - And I love France too. - Brazil? - And I love Brazil. - This is what's wrong with this country. - You can predict the outcome of the Pro Soccer Championship games all the way to the end of the tournament with Fandall predicts. 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Go to nocd.com/friends and book a free call with their team. That's nocd.com/friends. - Yeah, I can do that. - No you can't. - It's like him. - Yeah, he actually can. - It's like him, cocksucker. - Maybe not right now. - Was that a men's ball though? - Yeah. - No, no, he can. - Yeah, he can. - How's that one? - Why, okay. - You go cocksucker. (laughing) - I don't know if I can do it. - I don't know if I can do it. - Downs harder. - Downs harder. - Downs harder. hands. Okay, let me just see him. I mean, this is good enough. I just watch him dribble. This is good. Give me the ball. Give me the ball. Check. Do I'm going to move the rug? I got to watch him. Okay. I just got to see him. Okay. Okay. Okay. Get it. No, no, no, no, no, you're so. You could not get the ball from. No, you could not get the ball. I can. I can just. I know you said the way you're dribbling is crazy. You're stuck, but, but I just got to say one thing. You're. Yeah. No, you're a guy. I don't want to play. You're the guy. I don't want to play because You don't know how to play that well and you're too strong. - No. - No, let me tell you something. Look, first thing you're doing that I'm saying first. - You're lifting your leg up. - Yeah, I don't need to. - You put your two. - Oh, I can if I want. - But look at me right now. - And just the way that you're one of those guys. - Yeah, like, no, it's just one of those hands. When you're moving, there's just a certain, like, there's a certain thing people, when you ball, there's just like a certain way you just dribble it. And that's just-- - So you could beat me one-on-one. - No, I'm not saying I love you. - You're so strong. - No, I wouldn't need to use strength to win. - Speed, I have to see your real. - It would probably be such a good defender. - Defender offense, to see your real. - No, honestly, I'll be honest with you. - At this point, especially in my life, the player that I am today, you have a better impact on the game than me, for sure, all around, defensively. - But just shooting. - More than just shooting. Offensively, I can contribute to a team more. - Holistically, offensively. And I'd probably clubhouse as well. I would probably contribute a little more. I'm a great leader. I hit all the big shots, you need me to hit it. - Like a coach. - You're a better shooting guard than point guard. - Yeah. - Much better shooting guard. - I'm a shooting guard. - You're a lazy defender though. - He's a very good, my favorite team. - That's right. - You're probably actually good at shooting. - My favorite is when we're on the same team. And I get to be the point guard. And he gets to be the shooting guard. It's one, he's a favorite shooting guard to have. When you're playing a game, he's your favorite shooting guard to have, because he can pass, but he can also create a shot as well. - Let me ask you a question. You know how you play games up to 11, three is your worth too. Have you ever scored all 11 points in the game, the 5-on-5 game? I've done that like four times probably. - Yeah, I mean, I can't say that half. - And I'm not even that kind of player. But like, it's very common in those games up to 11 that I'll have eight, I'll have six. I'll never have like, just one, okay. I'm a really great score. - I'm so annoying on defense. You just like, no, you just hate me, I'm there. Like, I might do the thing when it's time to like, check the ball. I get off my man and I'm just going at the other guy. I'm very annoying. - Okay, I'll check it out that, no, no, no. - Yeah, I don't know, are there rules where like, like I remember one time a basketball player in the NBA, Jimmy Ornelson came to my overnight camp. And he couldn't really even play because in his contract, he was like, are there rules that prevent you from playing, pick up basketball or anything like that? - We're independent contractors, technically, so we can really do whatever the fuck we want, rather than fight for different promotions. We could wrestle, we can do jiu-jitsu, we cannot box for other promotions, but we can, we can ball, we can sky that. There's nothing saying we can't. - Is there a fighter's union? - No. - But do you feel like their desperately needs to be? - I don't even really know what that means. - That means that I think, and I don't even know either, but like you're saying, we're independent contractors. The guns for hire right now, but all these other professional sports have unions that really protect because it's making so much money, not to put Dana on the spot. I hear things being talked about a little bit here and there, and I was just, it's really behind me for all about, yeah, so. - I'm lucky, I'm in the 1% of people that are actually making money, so I feel like I earned it. I got to where I'm at, I fought for the 12 and 12, the 2020, I fought for those to get to where I'm at, but it's like, it's hard, I get UFC's perspective sometimes too. It's like these guys that are their first fight in UFC, they have no one knows who they are. There's no one that's tuning into the fight to watch them fight specifically, and they wanna make $150,000 to fight what it's like, but so I get business side of UFC, I also get the fighter's like, 'cause I've been through it and it's a brutal sport. - Dana White, and he invent UFC. - He bought the UFC when it was going down. - Why was it going down? - Because it was just so frowned upon. It was illegal in most states. Most people were like, you're gonna watch two guys fight in a cage, like it wasn't like this popular thing. - And how do you change it? - He's like a marketing addict. - He went through a lot of money at it and then built this reality TV show around it called The Ultimate Fight. - Yeah, that's kind of what I'm talking about. - Well, it was a game didn't change, right? - No, no, no. - It's just people changed their perception of the game? - 100%. - Dana White, I think, is one of the biggest marketing geniuses of all time. - Yes. - I have no idea what the answer to this is. Was Joe Rogan a part of any of the marketing geniuses of the start of UFC? - He was a, so Joe first started a commentator. - Well, when he first started working for the UFC, he did it for free, early 2000s late 1999, whatever it was. And he was like interviewing fighters backstage and he did it for free 'cause he was loved with the sport. And then he started commentating and I don't think he, I think people really enjoyed his commentary on it because he was kind of explaining what was happening. And so I think he had an impact in that sense. I don't know about marketing. - Through the blockator. - Joe Rogan, he did like kickbox and kickbox. - You were part with him? - No, he's old. - He's like 60. - But like just for fun. - He did Taekwondo when he was younger. And then he, I think he has a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu. - But like just his nose. - But like just says, like, does he like love you? - I've done his podcast three times. I think he, I mean, I, - Boy, yeah, I just wish you luck. - Does he love you that? - I don't know. You know what's funny about that is, I had kind of made this thing after my fight 'cause I fucking love you, Joe Rogan. Like, there's like six fights in a row where I did that. - Oh right. - Because I want to broke my foot in my second fight. I was laying on the ground after the fight. And he came over to me and interviewed me while I was laying on the ground with my foot broken. And I was like, I fucking love you, Joe Rogan. - I kind of started this thing. So it's funny you ask if he loves me. I don't know. I love it. - I love you, Joe. - I think he did say, I love you two, man. One time. - You're worried that you might have said it too much to him, right? - He's like, ah, he's like, okay. - Which is fine. (laughing) - When you're training for a fight, do you like, like, you know, so who's the guy? Who's the guy you're about to fight? What's his name again? What's the guy's name? - Amin Zahabi. He's from Canada. - I can't say that animal. - Are you thinking about his fate? Like, how many, you're thinking about his face every day, right? Like, you're picturing him when you're training, you're like picturing him. Like, you really are not. - In a sense, there's a little bit, not fully. - You're not waking up thinking about this guy, like, just subtly in the back of your mind, that man, that's also on the other side of the world training for the same event where he's supposed to meet up with you and beat the fuck out of you. - To an extent. - Yeah. - Like, you find motivation, you find some inspiration from thinking of like, okay, his motherfuckers training, but it's like, just focusing on yourself and doing what you need to do. Each session is, I get more out of that than thinking about what he's doing or thinking about him at all. But I've been pretty, I don't know if it's, I had a lot of fights, but there's even still people at the highest level, freak themselves out. They don't even want to know about their fight for six weeks. - Really? Do you want to know what to fight? - Do you think you need, like, do you need social media so you can antagonize the guys? Don't they antagonize, there's so much people, you know who's actually done really good at that is Jake Paul and the box and stuff. He's been very good at making fun of people in a sense, building these fights, hyping these fights up, but you're not that type of guy. - I did a little bit, and earlier on in my career, but lately it's so weird, I've been off social media for a year and a half almost now and it's like, I don't think about, and I actually don't like this about myself. think about creating content more and I really do enjoy creating. content, we still create it, but I'm not thinking about it nearly as much because I'm never on it. I don't see anything. But I, and I feel like I used to looking back at my old social media when I was coming up, I was motivated by money and like fame when I didn't have it. And I was able to create this content that I feel like built my brand. And now that I'm not on social, I feel like I'm not creating that same content. And I kind of feel guilty in a sense, but I'm also like not being off social is such a different level piece of mind. I don't have the anxiety you get just like surfing. It's like you never feel fucking good when you're on your phone. Sure, you don't feel good comparison is the secret joy. It's not for sure. It is. It is. It's said all the time, but it's such a good one that it's like I don't feel dumb repeating. It's yeah, it really is. You know what I have? I'm going to go get this thing that I have it. This feeling that I agree with all of you. Go. I have it's my your whistle. Yeah, I have an appreciation whistle. But you still spend a lot of time on social media. I know, but I keep getting to where the whistle. If I put on padding, and I put on like three layers of padding head year. No, if I put on like padding right now and you punched me at like 20% would it destroy me? No, again, I never I've never been someone who thinks it hits hard. Yeah, I hit fast. I think our definition of hard is like just a little thing you did to the back of my head. I'm still thinking about. I'm still feeling hard, but I hit I'm more of like a speed guy. Check, he doesn't hit real hard. I don't hit that hard. It's more of a speed thing. Do you think though you would hurt Benny like if he had padding on? If yeah, it depends. I'll fix the padding. I said three of those normal paddings. What normal pad? Oh, let me just show you. I got it. No, okay. I got it. I got it. It's my appreciation. I told him, I told him. Give me another one. So three of them have to be harder. No, no, no, no. Hi guys, Dave here. And I'm here to talk about David. It's like, is this your own company? It's not my company. I've actually never had a protein bar in my life. This would be my first time. Oh, you're in a lot. I've never tried it. I have to say it's really good. And then I look at the back and I think oh my god. Only 150 calories. I love your strength. I pull you in it. Let's say it's just like cookie dough. And protein is valuable. It's a monster valuable muscle muscle. It's really good. And you know what? What? David is available at Walmart stores nationwide and on Walmart.com. You can try a single bar for like two, seven, nine, just seven. Two, nine, seven. Two nights. Wow. That's about my shop. Good man. Wow. UFC history is going to go down this Sunday at that White House. You know, they're going to have them. They're going to have an Arctodont. You're going to have Sean O'Malley. It's here today, but you know, and pretty soon he's going to be stepping into the Arctic on a take on. And the Bantam Wade matchup that you absolutely cannot miss. Now that I've met Sean, I'm nervous. Yeah. It's you know, we want him to, I think we want him to win. I don't want anybody to get hurt and I don't want anybody to get punched. Actually, we're neutral. I don't want anybody to kick and I just want everybody to shake hands. You don't even want to see combat. I don't want to see combat. I want to have a nice little talk. All right. I got news for you. There's going to be combat. UFC at the White House this Sunday. Only on ParamountPlus.com. You got to go five percent. Oh, no, because then five is like this. I got to do it enough where you feel like we are just in case ribs fly. Let me see what 10 percent is. I know this is so much padding. I don't know if you're going to feel everything you're doing. Trady left hand or right? At please. I'm going to check you to your countdown or just I just want to see what these feel like. Like get a little bit harder. Harder. You might not even feel that bad. Okay. That's decent. Oh, my god. Nice. I don't feel like I felt it. I'm not like. Whoa. Okay. One might have hurt. One might have hurt. Did it hurt you? I mean, if you were just stunned, I don't know what was happening. You were. That is. I don't feel amazing. But like, that was cool. - I was not- - I was not- - I was saying you were the best. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no You know, but I have it here. - And I kind of didn't really tell you when it was coming, which was kind of nice. - Yeah. - And I don't really get too much hip into it. - Okay. - Oh my God. (laughing) (upbeat music) - I can't believe you're in pain. - Always. - Yeah. - I guess I just, I'm in pain and I just, I just work out. - You're not beating. - Yeah, but when you work out all the time, you're just in pain just under the workout even. - From being so honest. - Yeah. - I do Pilates and walk and I'm not in pain. - Yeah, girls, typically I feel like you're just, you're like, my hips, yeah. - My hips, I always have to open so much. - It's like cracking for me. Like my knees crack when I stand. It's just, - I don't think that's bad though. - Well. - Should we do friends on three? - Would you? - I just punch him in the face real quick. - Yeah, no. - I'm not a violent person by any means either. I don't like fight. - I don't like fight. - I just wanna just give you one small shot. - Don't do it hard, Dave. - I won't. - Last time I do a punch, it was like 10 years ago. I punched my friend's butt and I fractured my wrist. - Okay, you had a good fight. - What did you think of me? - You think of me? - No. - We really appreciate you coming to that. - I appreciate it. - On three. - One, two, three. - Was that a good one? - You know what? One time Bradley Martin, you know Bradley Martin. - No. - We're a big fucking jack guy. He, we're at the club one. I'll kind of turn it up. When we give the body shot. And I flexing him is hardest he could. And I was like, oh, not shot. And I walked away. (laughing) - Bro, he won. He's a big 265, hit his hardest he could. - His was not dead, right? - That was bad. - But you can't see. - He's got a big fight coming up. - Yeah, I know. I wanna be easy. Thank you so much for coming up. - Thank you. - I'm here for you. - I'm here for you. - I'm here for you. - I'm here for you. - I'm here for you. - Come play pickleball. - Yeah, I wanna play pickleball. - Yeah. - I'm here for you. - Show me his pickleball. - Oh, yeah, I wanna show you his pickleball. - He's like four of them. (upbeat music) - Offered by Fandall Prediction Markets LLC, a registered Futures Commission merchant, 18 plus. Bonus is not withdrawable and expire seven days after receipt. Trading derivatives involve significant risk and may not be suitable for all investors. Manage your activity with our consumer protection tools, restrictions apply. See terms at fandall.com/predict/bonus-offer-terms.