The Ruler’s Back

- Yup, show them in, God. - Andrew Schultz. - We are the brand of his podcast back for another week of brilliant idiotness. Have a Kyle Walker. - Oh, sir. - How you feeling, man? - Man, I'm feeling good. - How was your week? - You was good. - Good, I was out in Nashville doing shows. - I thought you had Nashville, white Atlanta. - White Atlanta. - Jelly Roll really was doing stand up? - He came out at the end and he works for Stuff Out, it was cool. - Why? - No, 'cause he's doing this show as part of the Netflix's "Joke Fest" that he's asked me to do and like-- - Oh, they got Jelly Roll a stand up? - No, they don't have him doing stand up. He's doing music, but he also might, you know, do some jokes as well. - He's shooting it. - Can any white person do anything? - Oh, I love Jelly now. - He's my first winning member. - Now, Charlotte, shut it down. - Never hear me say a bad word about Jelly Roll. I love Jelly Roll. Not only do I think he's a talented human, I think he's just a beautiful human. - He is a beautiful man. - His energy is amazing. I fuck with Jelly. I come to hate. - Yeah. - No, it's nothing to do with Jelly. This is a beautiful mother and jelly sandwich. - This is about there are certain skill sets that I think require experts. - That is true. - And you have to have experience. And I think that we put people in bad positions when we just give 'em a microphone and tell 'em to go on stage and tell 'em jokes. You might get some tweets off and everybody laugh. It's not the same as getting on stage. - We're not asking for an hour special here. We're just trying to have some fun, okay? - We're just setting them up. If you say he's out here trying to do comedy, 'cause now you have an expectation set. Now, if you just bring Jelly up and handle a mic and people don't know what they expect, and he says some shit and they're like, oh, shit. But, if you say, "Yo, Jelly, we wouldn't done that." - Before you fucking started this shit. - I damn. - I saw it on social media. - Jelly roll gon' do some jokes. I'm like, no, I don't set my guy up like that. 'Cause now. - Show 'em in, have one bad experience. - Now? - I know. Nobody else can do stand up. - Now I can't. - But nobody else can do stand up. - Now I can't. - Now I can't laugh. - I won't, huh? - You trying before? - I know. - You tried to stand up. - You definitely. - He's not the host shows. - I can stand down. - Come on, man. - I literally can't stand down. - Let's talk into the mic. - I literally came on and said, though. - And I hate that you're traumatized by this because you are so funny that you could actually do it. You're one of the few people that could actually do it. - And that's not right. What you're doing to me right now is not right. - I'm telling you. - That's why so many people getting on stage, that shouldn't be, 'cause I'll say things like that. And it's always the legit medium, the guy that you look at and be like, damn. It's always them saying, but you should try it. - Should we say, should we release it right now? - Should we say it? - Show me and we'll be performing at the jelly roll show. And that's like, that's the ball. Let's go show the main. - If I ever try stand up, I come out in the wheelchair. - Okay. - On purpose. - Just 'cause you not standing doesn't make it not stand. - I forgot you bombed. - That's why you so sensitive about that. - So I look really bombed. - He did it bombed. - It was the, come on man. It was here with Donald Syndrome coming in the game to shoot a shot. - What I would say is this. The Middle East is used to weigh bigger bombs. (laughing) - That was 20 or what? - I hit it bombed. (laughing) - See how that was effulidated. That's not how it was. - He almost shot it off there. - Put me off too. - I was saying, ready? - You said it up. - You said it was wet. No, that was wet. - I know. - Okay. - No, but he did bombed. - He didn't, he didn't. Now, you did describe the scenario beautifully in that like it was the kid who was the manager of the basketball team and you put them in. They didn't, but he still hit the throw. - Three. - No kid would down Syndrome who's the manager of that room. - Doesn't matter. He did. - Yes, it does. It's a difference. - If he takes a bite out of the ball, yeah. (laughing) - If he shoots the three and makes it. - Yes. - Then it's fine. And he shot the three and made it. - If he takes a bite out of the ball and shoots it and makes it. Now you like it. - Wow. - Now he's spastic. - He's spastic. - No, he didn't have him in the whole time. - The only thing was, the only thing was crazy is the end of the video after I'll get to laugh. He goes, thank y'all. I'll see y'all next time. - No, I said that was it. - I said, that's my time. - That's my time. (laughing) - That's the equivalent of. - Come on, man. - They made it with Down syndrome biting the basketball. Shooting the three, making it and grabbing the ball and spiking it like he on the football field. - That's it. You don't even know what sport he's playing. It's all good. - That's you, Alan. - I made the shot. - But you listen. - Everybody go out there and try things, you know. - That's what I'm saying. So we need showing that safe. - Never. - We need to, and we need Timmy Salome and Jack Harlow in the front row. - You know what my dream is? - Just wait. - Yeah. - To have Don Elle come out in some arena and get the whole crowd to participate in not laughing at him. - I've done it on breakfast club. I've done it on my TV show. I've gotten the audience no matter what Don Elle says, to not laugh. You know what I'm saying. - But you're a crew, oh I got him so good. When I had the TV show on Comedy Central, he came out. I'm like, yo, she here for everybody except for this guy. - And he's got an upcoming Netflix special being produced by Dave Chappelle. And he's the host of the podcast. The Don Elle Rawlings Show. Don Elle Rawlings is here. Did you tell his audience-- - No I did not. I didn't know that. - You told his audience not to have to have fun. - No I did not. - We not gonna have a show like that. - That is not true. - That is not true. - They was laughing. - I think you're hilarious. - Oh wait a minute. You set me up. - Don Elle I love you man. - Don Elle Rawlings, nobody's saying. - Don Elle, I don't support this baby. I love you man. - Can you imagine being in a arena for five minutes and nobody laughing at all? - No, no, no. - Don Elle. - Don Elle, don't you put that juju out there. - Why? - It's funny, it's a joke. - Why can't I joke? - 'Cause your jokes are cruel. Your jokes have a problem. Your jokes are just more than lying wrong. - You know only one that finds your jokes funny. - That's a joke. - You eat. - Everybody else is a joke. - That's a joke. - You are a joke. - That's the beauty of it. - But that was what makes you good on stage. - It's no beauty. - When you don't care what everybody else thinks. What else happened this week man? - What's going on in the world man? So much negative. - JV. - JV. - Oh, that's positivity. - Man, Alex Eddie can't believe JV sold out Yankee Stadium. - You are a hater. - I can't believe you sold it out. - That quick. - Why? - Why is JV? - Two days at Yankee Stadium you sold it out in like an hour. - It's JV. - And? - Yeah. - Like, I don't want to say it was JV. - JV was born in New York. - It's JV. - Exactly. - I'm going to turn it into the JV. - Listen, that's bad money for New York. - I think JV is bad money for the world. - No, bad money is bad money for the world. - Sure. - JV is JV. - Bad money is new energy. Like J has been doing this for years. It's saying J's first time selling out Yankee Stadium. The crazy part is he had 1.6 million people in the queue. - Yeah, yeah. - You can sell out Yankee Stadium like 40 times. - Yeah, yeah. - He could think about that. He could have literally done 40 shows in Yankee Stadium if he wanted to. If he said, you know what? Fuck it, man, let everybody. 1.6 million people in the care. - You think it's the coincidence that Mamdani paid everybody 30 an hour to shovel snow and then he had 100, 1.6 million people in the queue for it. - I don't even want to see Mamdani at the concert. - I don't know why. - I don't think he knows reasonable doubt. - This is your Mamdani, you made it, bro. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Mamdani, you pop it. Mamdani, you are officially pop it. The Charlotte hate train is coming. Tugger, Tugger, Tugger, Tugger, Tugger, Tugger. - Tugger, Tugger, Tugger, Tugger. - What's up, Mamdani? - You know what, on his Mamdani, you know what, he's like, "Gurdy, bro". - He's like, "Gurdy, bro". - No, this is the energy I like. - Oh, right. - But Charlotte's got a new, listen. - We still got a new guy to handle. - 34. - 34. - 34. - Yeah. - Reasonable doubt is 30. He don't know reasonable doubt. - I bet a trip to Maui on it. - But I bet a trip to Maui on it. - I know reasonable doubt. - Put your pussy on it. - Know's it. - Bro, he grew up hip-hop. - 34. He was born reasonable doubt came out. - What? - Internet don't exist now. - Is that, why you agree they can't go back to it? - Name seven songs off reasonable doubt right now. - Matter pack I'll show it in the name five. - Okay. - Oh shit. - Big 20s act. - Big 22s, the evils. - Okay. - Reasonable doubt. - Yeah. - It goes wrong when they call reasonable doubt. - Yeah it is. - No it's not. - No it's not. - It goes wrong. But it's too much almond and almond. That's what I'm saying. - Come on. - And you just say it reasonable doubt is the song. - Broke this finest. - Okay. - Yeah. - Too much. - Ah. - It shouldn't be this much. - Ah. - It's crazy. - Don't forget that. - I know it's crazy. - It's not what? - No, it's not. - I know it's crazy. - It's the world. - No, no, no. - Oh my god. - I know he's getting up. - Fuck that. - Fuck that. - He named the whole of the song. - It's not. - The whole of the song? - It's not not. - You named the whole of the world. - He got the nice fucking him the fuck. - Don't go go go. - Don't go here. - Go kid. - You got living with me to low good. - You go. - Who else? - Who else? The hot. - Can't knock the hustle. - Alex you lost the ring. - Exactly. - How much did it struggle? - There's just too much of a struggle and yeah. - Madonna. - Madonna would do worse. - All right, name five songs off Rupert. - 'Cause he's performing that one too. - Oh, Rupert? - Yeah, he's performing that one too. - Name five. - You serious? - Yes I am. - You serious? - I'm not stalling. - Ain't no love in the heart of the city. Never change. Song cry. Whole lot of love, Vita. Renegade. - Damn it. - H to the Isle. - All right, all right. - You don't got to go. - The rule is back. - No, now hold it, hold it, hold it. witness. We didn't stand for the National Anthem. I'm a when the rule is back. Come on. (laughs) - I'm going to drop thinnin' in and in and in. (laughs) - Yeah. - What are you talkin' about? - See if you gave me boopin' after God. - Don't do me. - Listen, that's not what I'm talkin' about. - That was not good. - That was not good. - You still got four though off the top. - No, I got four. - No, he did not. He did so much, I'm in an iron. - He almost found my daddy. - He was like, um, um, um. - It's too much pressure. - I don't think, I, but I know my daddy will be there 'cause he's the mayor of New York. - Yeah. - But it's nothing worse than watching somebody try to sing along to an album so hard that they don't know. - The hammer. - He might be memorizing it now, though. - My daddy, did you raise the toll? - Jesus, that happened. - Why do we know he wasn't talkin' about it? - You just did it. - No, I didn't, something happened. Somebody said something. - No, I said-- - Who's more of a legit hip-hop fan? - No, this is what I'm talkin' about. - This is what I'm talkin' about. - So bomma. - I mean, you don't gotta push the mic away from Chris. - Bommel. - Chris dropped that question through the mic. - Oh, bommel. - Oh, bommel. - Now, I don't know my daddy, don't know my daddy. - My daddy used to rap. Yeah, he, right, but my daddy used to rap. I did like my daddy's top five. He had a solid top five. - When I was growing up for me, Lupe Fiasco, I also have a real soft spot for common. Also, I have to put in Jay-Z, and I think as New York City, we have to put in biggie. - But he just, I just don't think he knows reasonable that, that's all I'm sayin'. - Yo, can we just acknowledge that he's got some motion right now, and nobody can have motion as Charlotte's ocean. - Just not show up. - Oh, that's fine. - No one can have motion as Charlotte's. - No, no, no, no, no. I'm gonna be honest with you, I'm just age-shaming, 'cause I already know how this is going, gold. - You think it's gonna be a lot of young ruffians out there pretending that they listen to reasonable doubt? - That's all I'm saying, a bunch of hype-beats. - Like I was. - He's saying people, that for the last-- - What about that age limit for the concert? - I just want to avoid it. - No age minimum. - No limit. - Oh, no minimum, you're right. - Minimum, yeah, yeah. 35 and over. - No, no, no. - Oh, no, no. - Oh, no. - Okay, he kind of got to be 40. - 40, 40 plus. - 40 and over. - 40 plus. - I'll be honest with you. 40 plus. - Yeah, I'm trying to think. - Are you even without 30 this year? - So that means it can be now. - You've reached 25 this year. - Now, 96. - 96. - Can you answer two? When reasonable doubt first came out, it wasn't like this crazy takeover of an album. - No, no, no, that's a-- - I don't even think you listened to when it first came out. - I'll tell you one another truth. - I'll tell you the truth. - He's been waiting to have this conversation. - Oh my God. - I've had these conversations. You know what's so beautiful about these conversations? These were conversations that really happened during my formative years. Like, these are like mile markers. - When did we go back in? - Mine too. - I wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't when we go back. - When was it? - Blue front came out June 25th, 1990. - Blue front was that. - I mean, I'm reasonable doubt about June 25th, 1996, right? - It's reasonable doubt. - It's reasonable doubt came out June 25th, 1996. I was wool tanged out, mob deeped out, like those of my guys. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - You know, biggie, like I liked that type of shit. And when Jay came out, I remember saying to myself, what is this play as shit? Like all of the, you know, even biggie, like I like big 'cause yeah, I like the street gutter records. But I didn't know if I liked all of that play as shit. 'Cause all of the real, if I first-- - We looked at the world, it was kind of rough. - P-P-C's, they weren't on the play as-- - Rough, rough, yeah. - And so when Jay came out, I was like, what's the whole of this money talk? Go on, go on, go on, go on. - I had a homeboy, man, my homeboy booby. When I tell you he loved Jay-Z, when I tell you he was like, no, man, you need to listen to this reasonable doubt. Yo, you need to listen to this guy, man. I'm telling you dude is literally talking the life that you know, people are out here living, right? And I'm like, I don't know, but I'm gonna tell you what I got on Jay. His second album came out in my lifetime volume one. And he put out the Screech's is watching Soundtrack and it was a movie that came with it. And me and Booby, we were driving back and we was going to Myrtle Beach and I listened to reasonable doubt and that in my lifetime back and forth when we was driving from Myrtle Beach, that's all we listened to. And I was like, yo, this guy is phenomenal. And then my first concert ever was the Hard Knock Life Tour in Charlton, South Carolina. He was at the North Charlton, Coliseum. I think this was 99 or 2000. - I think it was going to be good. - I don't remember. But it was my first concert ever when the Hard Knock Life album came out. And I listened to those, that was it. In my reasonable doubt, in my lifetime volume one, the Screech's watching Soundtrack in Hard Knock Life. Now, and I'm gonna tell you, I've had Ebb's and Flows with Jay. There was a period where my hate for Jay-Z kicked in. - Woo. - I'm telling you why, though. - Woo. - That's just happened sometime. - When you see a, it's like the Cowboys or the Lakers. When a franchise is winning too much or no reason. At some point, you like, yo bro, enough, especially when he retired and came back. You're like, yo, what is this, what's going on? Like take a break, let the new guys come in, let the new guys eat blah, blah, blah. But I can admit that was just hate. It just happens, by the way, it happens to everybody when you've been around for a long time, winning consistently. At some point, people would just be like, yo man, turn this shit the fuck off. - Yeah. - You know? But then you come back around, because there's brightness. - Yeah. - You know? And I think I came back around, I never, the hate wasn't real. So I came back around like around American gangster. - Oh yeah. - Yeah. - 'Cause I think like, Kingdom Come and Blueprint 3. - Kingdom Come had a couple of records on there. I didn't love it, I think one of Jay-Z's most terrible songs was actually on Kingdom Come, which is the joint with Usher. Oh my God. That's horrible. - The Blueprint 3 wasn't it? - You crazy. - Blueprint 3 is five. - What? One of my favorite Jay-Z records of all time is on Blueprint 3. Already home with Kid Cuddy. So you're not in the Hall of Fame or nothing. That's why you're hiding. - Listen. Guys. - Kid Cuddy. - And you've read two as well. - You've got, though, the Blueprint 2.1 was dope. All I'm simply saying is, I'm a Jay-Z guy, bro. I like Holes music a lot. Holes music has provided the soundtrack to my life. And we've literally watched this guy grow from a 27-year-old in 1996 to a 56-year-old in 2026. This is the other thing that blows my mind. All of these people that are online saying like, oh, you know, he's just doing this to create good pressure for himself. It's the 30-year anniversary of his first album. - It seems like a good time to celebrate. - It's the 25-year anniversary of what some people say as his best album. - Oh, okay. - Why wouldn't you celebrate those two things? Not to mention, guys. - FIFA's in town. - Not to mention, guys. I don't know if you know or not. - What? - You can't just book Yankee Stadium three weeks in advance. - Not FIFA's in town. - Yankee Stadium takes at least 18 months to two years to book for an event. A concert. - How do you know that? - Could I look it up? - Where does he say it? - He's just looking up. - You could book something if it's available. - It's in the middle of baseball season. - Yeah, but they got the games. It's in the middle of baseball season. - It takes, it takes, it takes, it takes, it takes, it takes. - You're saying that they booked at 18 months out. I feel like a guy like Jay-Z could book it two weeks out if he wanted. - Not if Yankee Stadium had something going on. - Well, clearly, but nothing's going on. It's not like they're moving baseball games for Jay-Z. - No, I don't think so. - But it is in the middle of baseball season. - Sure, sure. I guess what I'm saying is baseball is different than in arena. It says months to over a year. - Yeah, but it doesn't make any much. - Yeah, it's 6 to 12, it says, but. - It doesn't matter. - Still. - The point is, it wasn't spurred a moment. - Jay's the type of person that if he wanted to book something three months out or two months or a month out, he has the leverage and power connections. - Absolutely, but you're not, he didn't book this because he's, you said he got inside information. - And lines. It's the third, when you're, when you haven't been married for 30 years, you're not going to play in something special. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - You'll be, I'm not even married. - We'll be 20 years next summer. - You ain't even get a blooper, you ain't even blooper, he ain't not even blooper now yet. Blooper is 25 years. What you want to do something special for you, 20 years, I'm sure. - Oh. - No time. - 2 weeks. - Why can't you do it? - The time won't still around. - Why can't you be both though? Why can't he try to make better headlines for himself in that, too? - Because it's just not true. - Yeah, my point is. - I'm just saying it's a coincidence. - It's not a coincidence. - The bad stuff come in. - They've been trying to flander. For two years, he talked about it in the interview, all of the bullshit accusations. - Yeah. - And, you know, he's in the F-Charlie's dumb shit. - But haven't they said that they investigated it was nothing? - Yeah. - But he said that when he said it was the real issue, then the interview was heartbreaking. We all been through shit. You know how that shit go? That's a real human emotion to have to do that. - And the internet don't care. They're just going to keep pumping the most. - Oh my god. - You know, the internet got shocked. They couldn't believe he sold out that fast. They were like, what? - They were furious. - I thought we didn't like it. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Fuck y'all. Suck my dick. You digital dickheads. On the way like y'all. Y'all can't sell out your fucking living rooms. Okay. That's when you know, that's why I'm teaching y'all the internet is not real life. Okay, let these people talk, let them hate, let the Lincoln navigate. But when you mother fucking gotta go outside and people gotta pay to come see you, will they do that? That lets me know. - I think who's winning it, who's not? - I think for chronically online people, the internet seems real. And there are people who are chronically online. Just the internet is the most extreme versions of everything. So they think that's reality. But the majority of people are probably pretty moderate and don't-- - I don't think they know jokes. - Say what? - I don't think they know. - They don't know because that's their reality. But what I'm saying is the majority of people are not chronically online. They're not spending 10, 12 hours a day. - Oh no, I agree. - I agree. - So if you're chronically online, you see extremities because that's the only thing that plays on the internet. There's no like, hey, here's the nuance take that goes viral, right? Where goes viral is the most insane take on the right, the most insane take on the left, the most dramatic take here, the most dramatic take there. So if that's all you're consuming and that's your world view and you're not getting now in touch and grasp, then that's what you're gonna think the world is. - That's right, those bots can't help you in a real life, buddy. - Yeah, but they don't need to be in real life a lot of people, that's the thing. - It's a weird-- - You're missing a lot? - Not being in real life. How did Nashville feel this weekend? - That's real so much fun. - You see what I'm saying? - That's real fun. - How did you feel performing in front of all of those people, you know what I mean? Practicing new material. - That's cool. One of the biggest artists in the world come out just to kick it with you. - Yeah, it was great. - The fuck? - It was great. - And suck my dick internet. - Yeah. - From something. - Yeah. - Hey, look it, look it, look it, look it, look it. Yo, July 10th of the July 11th party got my office out. All right? - You got your outfits right? - I got my office out. My name will be number white t-shirts. - Wait, wait, wait. You didn't answer this. You didn't answer the ball. - Don't say exactly. Like I'm so predictable. Like I'm a cartoon character. Like you just know what I'm aware of. - No, no, no, you didn't answer this. - So when did reasonable doubt that album become such a historic album? Like when do people go back and discover it? Because it doesn't come out the gate as like the hot shit. - I think, I think when this, my personal opinion, I think that it would have a very niche coat life following in '96, everybody knew it was dope if you heard it. Because Jay-Z was one of those people who all of the greats mentioned in some way, shape or form when you think about it, right? Like Biggie was saying Jay-Z was his favorite artist, right? And collaborating with him and stuff like that. Pock was disin him. Why the hell was Pock disin Jay-Z in 1996? You didn't know what I was saying. - He felt some pressure. - That's my point. I'm not gonna say pressure, but he just had, he clearly had some type of energy that made people, you know, pay attention to him in some way, shape or form. So if you ask me, I think people started like a reasonable doubt. - Hard knock life. - Hard knock life. I think once he became a mega star, people started going back that actual song, the hard knock life. - But that's all volume, too, though. - Yeah, I know. - That's what. - So volume, too. And then they go back and see his other work and they're like, oh, this is crazy. - That's what I think. - Yep, that's it. - I mean, blue print was just super, super dope. - Oh, blue print without it. - See you later. - Blue print without it. I mean, blue out here. Well, hard knock life is really what made Jay a superstar. - It's so weird. Like the way I look back at it, I'm wrong obviously, but I almost remembered blue print before hard knock life. - Hard knock life felt like such a huge song. Do you guys remember? - Yeah, hard knock life was 98. - Hard knock life was 98. - Blue print was 2001. - Hard knock life opened up white people 'cause of the Annie sample. - That's the biggest album. - Was it for a movie? Did they remake Annie or something like that? - Oh no. - No, he just used the sample. - That's it. - But he did remake Annie years later. - Yeah, he did. - Okay, so I'm confusing that. - He did it. - And reasonable doubt. I mean, reasonable doubt had heat, though, 'cause reasonable doubt, you know, that ain't no nigga off the nutty professor soundtrack. - All right. - What was hard of the city on? - Blue print, blue print. - Ain't no name. - You know how hard it, you know how good hard of the city is going to sound. - Oh my god. - And New York. - So public service announced. - No, no, but I'm done. - Public service announced. - It's a reason. - It's a reason, ain't got to play it, dog. - It's a reason ain't no love is going to sound so good. Because we literally saw him go through that the last couple of years. First of fact, boys break up. And every day I wake up, somebody got a problem with ho. What's up? Y'all think it's all fed up? 'Cause I got a little chat in him, a record's moving out the stove. - Yeah. - What the, like, what do you say? - Wow. - Those words that he's saying in that record. - Wow. - I'm going to resonate so much that night that I know his energy going to be on the dial. When he's listening to the lyrics now, I'm like, I know he's like. - He's thinking guy like Jay, who's put out how many albums? 12, 13. - 13. - 13 albums. - He has to listen back to the old stuff to remember it a bit. - Probably. - He got it, right? - Yeah, I would think so. - Some stuff, probably. Some stuff. - Like the song. - He also has a great, he was one of those rappers that didn't write anything down. So he has a great memory. - But still, at a certain point you're 50 years old, you got kids, you know what I mean? It's like a different world. There's no way that you don't just, there's no way you're going cold. - Young fuck spitting at me. Young rappers getting at me. What if you say young fuck spitting at me? You two getting at me. Running a big predicted this shit exactly. - Yeah. - More money, more problems. Gotta move carefully. - Yeah. - Cut. Whoa. - There you go. - I knew it. I knew it. - I knew it. I knew it. - It was going hot. - In the 90s. - What happened? - Whoops. - What did he say? - Go, that'll be a liar. And he don't say it when I get stadiums. - Go, go, go. - Because he don't say it when the whole stadiums say it. - They're going to go crazy. - Because Bragg will maggot's head. - He's getting money like half leaps. - Youngin. - Oh, I can't wait. - I'm so happy. - I'm feeling fine. It cost you nothing. - Pay me no mind. - I'm a fuck grinder. - Hey, man, this is going to be, oh my God. Thank you, God. - Thank you, man. Between Jay-Z, this summer, and Mary J. Blige and Vegas, life is good. - She has a residency. - Yes, she does, man. - Oh, God. - Thank God for finally caring about people 45 and up, man. - Yeah. - You know what I'm saying? We're like the forgotten generation. - Vegas is always cared about people. - He moved in the age of. - Yeah, and you know what, man. You know it's so crazy. I apologize to everybody who used to go to Vegas to see their favorite older ex. - Yeah. - When we were young, it seemed like so washed. - I felt like you were put out to pass. - You know what I mean? But now that we've 45 and up, and our favorites are out in Vegas, be like, I see why y'all did this. - Flyer, yeah, oh my God. - But also Vegas changed. Vegas became a younger place. And I think too, it's detriment in a way. - Talk to me. - Well, Vegas became like a destination, almost like Miami or something like that. And now they're charging crazy money for the rooms. Like back in the day, you could go to Vegas, you get a room for almost nothing. - Yeah. - They're walking to casino, they're giving you drinks, the drinks are free. Like the whole thing was curated around. You spend in your money gambling, and then the rest of those things being like distractions, or something to do with your wife, so she could pull you off the tables for a little bit. And what people seem to feel right now is that they're gouging you at every point. So now you got less money to gamble, and you can barely afford the hotel, and the dinner is absolutely expensive. And back in the day, you could go to like a buffet in Vegas and have like, I don't want to say top-notch food, but like really fucking good food. - They still got the restaurants in Vegas. - No, the restaurants are fantastic. - They used to have a buffet at the casino, and that was like pretty good. - And they do it, they do, they listen, they still got it, but like everything's really expensive. And I think people start to feel like, hey, this isn't a place where I go where I could feel super rich for a weekend. This is a place where I'm gonna be stressed with my wallet. And, but this became a destination. If it became a place where you could have 40 different shows you check out, you're seeing this huge marquee fight, like you're gonna spend money when you go. - Yeah, I've never gambled in Vegas. No, the only time I'm going to Vegas is for the IHR radio music festival, and for other concerts. Like I flew out there to go watch Usher. - Yeah, I just go to it for events. - Or if like I'm doing a show, or I'm gonna see a fight or something like that. - Yeah, the spirit's phenomenal. - Bro, you know what I've found? - You been through the spirit yet? - That's one of UFC at the spirit. - My luck is phenomenal, do you see that shit? - No, I didn't see it. - He thinks he's, he's like, you know what I'm saying? - It is, that was the best. - The delivery was too good. - That was the best you've ever done. - Imprisoned all week. (laughing) And I don't even know if I could have nailed the land, and if you, I think I got this set up. - I think you fucked it up. - I think you even fucked up this set up. - I got a set up. - No, 'cause I heard it. - Shut up. - I was trying to figure out what I was gonna do. I should have waited, man. I was too fucking weak. - Yeah, you were too weak. - 'Cause I had a whole thing in my mind. - LeCat is a person. - But I don't even think he said it up. - I was gonna do it with supplements. - But you said my lick. - I know what I was gonna do with supplements. - My lick doesn't do anything. - I was gonna start talking about peptides, and just start naming peptides. - Yeah. - Like that, my lick shit is good too. - My lick doesn't go anywhere. - I was like, "Oh, man, it's doing his best." - My dick. - My dick in your mouth. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Fuck. - Listen, I'm just not good at it. See what I'm saying? I'm just not good at it. And I know that. - Okay. - He's trying, though. - But I wouldn't see. That's not, can't treat stand up like that. - I knew you were gonna fuck me quick. - I thought you were gonna get back to it. - You got the fucking quit. But Vegas. - So how do you make, so Chris, do you remember going to Vegas when you were younger? - A couple times, yeah. - And did it feel like an affordable place where you got to be almost comfy the whole time? tell rooms, stuff, phase. I think part of it was the celebrity chef starting to come in and they really made that part of the experience that when top chef became a big thing and then if you were a winner or one of the top things, you would get a restaurant in one of these. And that started to drive the prices up. - Oh, so now that we're paying all this money for this stuff, we gotta find a way to afford it. - Right, and then that kind of readjusted the standard where I think the buffets were good, but you weren't going to them to expect to get like-- - Top tier cuisine. - For an experience, you were going to literally to fuel the gambling. - Right, right, right, right, right. - I heard something, I don't know if this is true, but I heard that like the Vegas casinos really stay open off of whales. So like us gambling a few hundred bucks or whatever doesn't really move the needle for them. - Listen man, that's not even-- - No, I'm being that serious. - Can I say the point because I'm not even trying to catch you? A whale is someone who gambles a million dollars a day. So they'll extend a line of credit for the whales. - Please bet? - Well the pockets are fat, that's the-- - I got you guys. - So like, they're the people, like think about how many of us got to be in there every day spent in-- - And they're getting toned. - And they're getting toned. - They're going to buy it on us. - Of course everything. - They get a private jet they roll out for them. But apparently the idea for like the concierge whatever is just fine as many of these motherfuckers who are willing to drop a milled day in the casino. - A milled day is crazy, huh? - Son, that's what they do. - It's a milled day is crazy. You know, so I didn't, I didn't go to Vegas back in the days and all of me. The Vegas experience still is cool. Like, you know what I say? - I love, yeah, low key for two days. Vegas is awesome. - I love it. You know what I love about Vegas? When you're in a hotel, in the dark at night, and it's the city lighting up your hotel. - Oh yeah. - That shit is great. I had a great, that wasn't the last time I was in Vegas, but that time we flew out there to go see Usher. We had a great time. It was me and my wife. - Would you stay? - I don't even remember. It was Holly and her guy. - Who, when, the when, maybe? - I really don't remember. - On court? - I promise you, I don't remember. But it was funny, 'cause we went to go see Usher, and then somehow our another, my wife, and Jessica Alba started having a conversation. - Oh wow. - And they ended up kicking in. We all, after the show went gambling. - Oh wow. - It's like this one, I got a picture. It's like, all of us in the lobby drunk is shit. And I always look at that picture like, "How the fuck was we with Jessica Alba?" - That's the thing. - And then now I remember, and I've seen Jessica Alba since then. - So that's the thing, Jess? - That's the thing that Vague has got that no other place in the world has. Once you're in the casino, everybody's there. Yeah, they got some private rooms for the high rollers, but like a lot of people-- - Oh, no, you're right. - You're not a famous people. They're not trying to do the $500,000 chip, whatever shit. They don't need to go to the private. They want to gamble kind of regular. So if you go there for NBA Summer League, you'll see the NBA players just at the fucking crack table, at the blackjack table. - So there is something unique. - We went to something, I'm not on gamble, so I don't know what table we would have, but we walked from Usher Show and went to the gambling table and we just all was sitting there gambling. - Yeah. - Jessica Alba, my wife and Jessica's friend, and we just was having a great mother fucking time, and it was just so random. And all the security was just making sure we was, well, they were making sure Jessica was good. They didn't even fuck about me, I'm sure. But they were making sure we were good, you know? Like that was, that was a, yeah, that was a great time. I like Vegas. - Anyway, shout out Jay-Z. - Shout out to the whole, man. - Shout out to the whole. - July 10th and July 11th. Cannot fucking wait. - I'll be there. - I don't think you'll be there. What else we got to tell you? - I'm gonna be there. - You ain't gonna tell me, I'm gonna be there. - Tell her what you're doing. Tell her what you're doing. - I'm not pretty, tell her what you're doing. - I don't need to go, man. - I'm not, I wouldn't even invite you. - Really, you don't wanna go. - I'm not here Jay-Z, I respect him, but I'm not here Jay-Z. - That's an honest comment, that's fine. - That's right, but once again, if you are certain age, I don't want you around me that day. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I don't want you around me. - But whatever you know all the songs, though. - I know you don't. - I know I don't. - I'm just a hero, no, no, no, no, no. - I know you know. - But you're acting like what Alex said, like people go back and listen to what I can say. - You don't think he's gonna play anything else besides those two albums? - Yeah. - He said reasonable doubt and blueprint. - Now you might on Sunday, he added a third show that sold out in a minute. So the third show at Sunday, and it's called Extra Endings. I don't think y'all, and you know what, one more thing, listen, I know people want to say, this is glazing, I don't give a fuck, and hey kids, which y'all call glazing, we call celebrating people. I don't think people are used to what they're seeing 'cause they forgot what OG mega-stardom looks like. Like, and the thing that makes Jay-Z so great is like, this is the first of its kind in hip-hop. You know, you used to that in other genres. You used to Bruce Springsteen announcing Yankee Stadium at 60 plus years old, and that shit sells out in two seconds. - Billy Joe doing his line at the target. - Rolling stone, you know, you used to all of these older acts doing old. - You ain't never seen it in hip-hop. You've never seen a 56 year old hip-hop artist who can do this. - That's fire. - It's a great point. - Could you put Eminem in the same category? - I don't know, I haven't got to do it. I don't know if you haven't done it. - I'm not saying he can't. - I'm just thinking of somebody who would be on that level. - I think I could probably do it. - Probably in Detroit. - I don't know. - I don't know. - I don't know, Yankee Stadium. - M is interesting. - M is interesting. - Could Gray do a version of it? I mean, obviously not as a rapper, but like- - He could bring everybody out. - Bring everybody out. - Of course, to do Dodger Stadium. If they did the chronic. - But I don't count. - You won't get all the credit if you bring it out a bunch of people. - You know why M is interesting? - But then who he is? - But that is what he, that's the inception of Drey's. - M is interesting, 'cause numbers wise, he's the biggest rapper to ever walk the face of the earth. - Yeah. - Numbers wise. But I don't know if you have the gravity that Jay has. - He don't have the cultural gravity that somebody like Jay has. - He's one of the cultural gravity. - And I don't know if his music has aged as well. - Right, so- - The Real Slim Shady isn't going to do- - Please. - This is an nostalgia play. And don't underestimate nostalgia. Like you see all these groups that were popping when we were kids now doing their nostalgia tours. I mean, Backstreet Boys did the steer. Like, so clearly you get to a certain age where you want to reminisce and you want to have those feelings you had as a kid and Eminem evoke those feelings. And I think that we're looking at Jay in New York and we're kind of assuming that Eminem doesn't mean that exact thing to Detroit maybe more. - I think Eminem probably means that to a lot of people around the world. He's so too much records for me to be like, Eminem couldn't do that. - No, he could- - You know what I mean. - I think he could do it. I think like- - But I'm also, I can't have time to- - Well, so you don't get to see Eminem all the time just like you can be Jay. I think that's another reason why this is special, right? Because when you go away for a while, you get missed. Like Backstreet Boys, if they try to do that 10-15 years ago, I don't know if they're able to do it. - And plus, Eminem music for me, I always recognize Eminem as a top tier lyricist, great MC, but his music for me personally never touched me in that way. - Yeah. - In order for me to love Eminem's show, or even to come to Eminem's show, it probably would be like Eminem and 50 on tour together. - Sure, of course. Eminem 50 on tour, I'll go and probably leave appreciating Eminem's music more. - But just be as it doesn't touch you that way, it doesn't mean that it doesn't touch somebody in the same way, Billy Joel, such as anybody. - Yeah, he gets emsold more regularly than everybody. He's statistically the biggest rapper ever, numbers wide. - But I also think doing it in your home, like when you're a representation for those people. - Yeah. - It just means something different. And you want to experience it, like. - And if you go out and you tour one of your best albums, specifically, that even touches another-- - What would that be for Eminem? - Probably Marshall Mather's LP, I think, was his biggest. That's the second one. - Eminem should be celebrating the 30th anniversary soon. - Probably. But he's looking at a little bit out. - Yeah, in 2008, 2028 will be like Eminem's 30th year. I think his first album came out in '98, right? Look at him, I think in '98. - Hi, kids. Do you like violence? Do you want to see me putting 90s nails or reach one of my eyelids? - Fire. - What a copy of me. - It doesn't mean it's the same way though. It didn't mean it's the same way, but it's still fun. - But you might just want to hear that. - It's an nostalgia play. - Hi, kids. - Do you like violence? - Like, you want to say it. Like, what a crazy boy. - My name is Niamke Rapp. And first I've ever heard M was on a DJ clue mix tape. He had this song when he was like, "And if I had one wish, I wish for a big enough "as for the whole world, the kids." I didn't know that I was white. I was like, "I didn't mean it." - I didn't mean it. Okay, what else we got, guys? - Yeah, Slim's Shady LP was '99. - '99, okay. So it's 30 years. That's his first album, right? - Yeah. - Oh, so it's three years. - He had like, mixtakes and whatever, but that was the first one. - And three years would be 30 years for Eminem, man. Hip hop was great, bro. Hip hop was great. And it's amazing to watch. Long Jeopardy is great too. - Hey, man. When you have been long. - It's as hard. - Respect consistency and long. - It's hard. - Do you feel this might transition us, but do you feel because of the battle between Jake? - And Jake. - I'm sorry, Drake and Kendrick, that it's gonna mess up their long Jeopardy. - No. - Not Kendrick. - I was like, well, I wouldn't mess up. - Well, I mean, like, not Drake either, man. - No, but you know what Jay-Z said? He's like, it turned fans. It's like, oh, if you're a fan of one now, you have to hate the other. - I don't even believe that's real. And, you know, that, I didn't agree with Jay's take. I respected the take and I understand what it take is coming from. But that's also a 56 year old man's perspective. Can you pull that up? Pull that up. - You mean talking about Kendra? - Yeah, pull that up, so it's freshening my mind. Have you seen this take in Andrew? - And I know the internet's not real, but it did seem like online, it's like, hey, you've got to pick a side. - So that's life, why do we act like that's not life? - That's why I say. - I think for, I'm just looking at my kids' generation, so people, you know, in their late teens, early 20s now, Drake's undoubtedly the biggest artist for their generations. There's nothing that's gonna happen in any way, it's gonna ultimately change how they do. - It's the one A1B guys, like stop. Kendra is not big, bro. Kendra got to pull it to the right, not, y'all got to stop. - My kids' lunch room, they would all start singing God's plan together. Whatever, you know, like, it was that. - It's a Catholic school. - Exactly. - It's a Catholic school, New York City Public School. New York City Public School, it's a Catholic school. - Why wouldn't a bunch of Jewish kids sing God's? - Now it's a Jewish Catholic school. - So, y'all look at some plaid skirts. I wanna go to this school, I gotta check it out. - Well, maybe LA is like that for Kendra. - The world is like that for Kendra. - Yeah. - Listen, there was a time where Kendrick Lamar had the highest roasting tour of a solo rapper ever. And that was the Mr. Morale and the big stepper tour. And I think this new tour that he just went on with Sizzle, even though it was him and Sizzle, that broke the record. But before that, it was just him. - Why do we act like Kendrick is kind of the guy? - Listen, the Kendrick doesn't mean that he's not popping. - He got a Pulitzer Prize, Chris. You're a writer, you love Pulitzer, you love Pulitzer. - But kids don't care about Christ. - I'm like, "Nostika, I don't really care about you." - What religion is that? - That means I don't have one. - I don't know what? - I don't have one. - Press playtale. - The personal thing that you chose Kendrick for the Super Bowl, it's like, oh man, he's choosing the side and he's putting, and he's not. - Like, I don't have, what do I have to do with that? - I chose the guy that was having a monster year. I think it was the right choice. It wasn't in some sort of alliance to a battle on him. What I care about them two guys battling, it's like, "They got to do it with me." Have had it, have fun. He's almost like, not just me. By the way, they drag everybody in it. Everyone's part of this conspiracy to undermine Drake, I guess. I was like, "What the fuck?" (laughing) I'm like, "What?" I'm fucking Jay Z. - I'm fucking Jay. - I do respect him, I'm fucking, "Oh, what are you doing respectfully?" - Word. - Like, "Well, what?" - "To what in?" - Yeah. - It couldn't be that these guys just don't like each other. - Yeah. - And I think they haven't liked each other for a long time. - Before you had anything to do with it. - Well, wow, I think this has been brewing. Just like me and Nas was brewing. It didn't happen at the summa jam. That happened at Lexin TV sets, the minimum, whatever. It was a whole bunch of stuff leading up to that point. - What is it? The myth bleak slugs in your hat, right? - It was a bunch of little things that led up to that point. And then when it happened, it happened. I actually regret that. 'Cause I really like Nas. It's a really nice guy. - Well, also to your point, like, I remember, I was like 10 or 11 when that happened. I was like-- - Yeah, big aside. - Well, I was on your side. - Yeah, yeah, I could clearly. - But, my position was, I can't go out and buy stomatic. Or ask my parents to buy stomatic. But I'm gonna borrow it and burn it. 'Cause I can't deny it one might, you know? - Like I want to hear it. - Yeah. - But I need support and to blur it, yeah. - No, that's not the part. That's the one where he talks about. - That's what he means when he's good. - That's what he's trying to battle it. I do like that part door right there. Just 'cause I just love the confidence, man. And when you think about why you like certain artists, because certain artists, their music, it instills something in you and it just inspires you to be the best version of yourself. When Jay Lee said things like, I will not lose. When he said just now, why would I be undermining Drake? I'm fucking Jay-Z. - Yeah. - I'm a hoe. - Yeah, I know. - It's like, yo, sometimes you gotta remind these folks, you gotta look in the mirror, remind yourself. Like, yo, do you know who you are? - Yeah, I get that. I think it's also like, when you see everything through the prison of competition, and these guys are insanely ambitious and competitive and that's why they're able to reach the heights that they reach, you know, you go, well, why would he stop competing now? When you see him talk about it, then you step back and you go, yeah, why would he care about this thing? - He's just booking the bigger thing. - Easy, easy, easy answer to that question. He's 56 years old and you gotta look at it like a video game, right? Look at it like a video game and think about all the things we've already seen him do. He's reached so many different levels, whether we realize it or not, he's reached levels that Drake's still hasn't reached yet. It's Drake one of the biggest artists in the world, yeah, but really Drake is playing a different game in a different era. So why are we even saying the Drake's and the Kendrick's or whoever else are chasing these guys like the Jay-Z's and the Nause's? What are we comparing it to? Those guys are literally already home. They're home with their feet up. Like, they're not competing with the Drake's and the Kendrick's anymore. - Yeah, but like, we do this all the time. Like we, you know, we would errors. - Yeah, but with sports too. It's like, when Jordan put out the last dance doc, it was like, the conversation was, oh, he's doing this to cement his legacy as the greatest and this is to slight LeBron and blah, blah, blah. - Right, or one? - That's fun, but it's dumb. - Sure, it's dumb. Or when LeBron did space gives jam too. It was his version like, oh, you got a movie where I got the same movie I'm gonna run for. - Because he should have created something else. - Yeah. - Because I'm gonna be totally honest. Aliens came down right now and was like, we got a play for Earth. I don't know if I'm going to get run. - I'm just being honest. - Cause he's gonna fall. - When did that movie come out, yo? - He's not crying. - But yeah, when did that movie come out? Pull up the other clip of Jay. When did that movie come out, yo? If Ali, yo, we gotta really think about this. If Aliens, the mom's stars came down to Earth. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And they like, yo, go get your best. Are we motherfucking destroying this team? I'm putting Ron on a team. - 2021. - I'll tell you what I'm doing. - That's space jam too. - Oh, 2021. - I'm getting run at 2021. I don't know. - I'm choosing the Iranian military. - Dude, you guys are hard to get out of here, bro. That takes it around. - The he's got sick on the left. - Any military from the Middle East. Bro, the aliens could be like, "Ain't worth it." - The tear from the Middle East. - It ain't worth it. I'm just saying, I'm not gonna get brunt. I don't think so. The goal gets the aliens broke. You knew John was gonna wash it. - You gotta get stuff. - No. - Yeah. - I'm listening. - You gotta make a shot. - You gotta get a committee. The truth is, you gotta get a committee. - Jordan number one, bird number two. - You got, you need bird. - Get the bird to fuck out. - I'm the biggest bird hater in the world. - Now you need bird. - Bird number two. - You need bird. - I put bird on the team. - Yeah, no. - 'Cause he looks like them a little. So it's gonna confuse them. It's gonna throw them off. They're gonna be looking at him like, "Biddy, biddy, biddy, biddy." - And like, thinking they could communicate with him. He's reading our screen. - Okay, okay. Okay, this is a good one. We can get all of them in their primes. Like, we got some type of machine that can get everybody back to their primes. Aliens come back down right now to date. - What's the team? - Who's leading the team? - Michael Jordan, who they have Bill Russell on there. - He's getting Kobe, Mike Lincoln. - Mike Lincoln. - Mike Lincoln. - Mike Lincoln. - Michael Jackson. - And I can tell. - I don't know if I'm bringing Bill. I gotta see what the monster is on first. - Son, Bill, let's Bill. - Bill Russell coached white people through racism. - Taking him. - You're gonna think he could piece some hellies. - Bill could be the coach, let Bill be the coach. - I don't know if he'll be on a team. - What's wrong with him? - You gotta let Bill be on a team. He was telling whites what to do in Boston. You're telling me he can't organize. - Bill be the coach. - Jordan and Kobe's beans. - Yeah, let Bill be the coach. - Bill be the coach. - Come on. - Michael, Kobe. - Shack. - You gotta get Shack. - Got to get Shack. - Get the A's and D too. - Man, get out of here. - Yeah, get the file. You know who the fuck you off the ball. Just think it's nice. - Yeah, me. - No, no, no. - No. - No. - You're gonna be giving secrets like the China we can't do. (laughing) - You need, you need, you need, okay. - I'm gonna get Steph. - Steph. - We need a shooter. - We need a shooter. - We need a shooter. We need a shooter we need a shooter be like you're ain't seen shit like that's just that plan on the gallon Yeah, I know y'all had that here. I'm going to be a manager. I got to get mad. No because now we only got one shooter We need it. We need a KD low-key. We need KD. We need two guys that could splash you got to get magic magical scaring because I've been doing They research oh my god like yo you said in their prime. Oh, he didn't have it in a knife. No, he did though. No You have to retire but that wasn't a prime. I get what you say. Yeah, you right He didn't have magic in his you're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You guys get a shot of it. I'm going to get real in or You got to get KD you need step if we want more shooting I go get burnt got to get burnt. I go get burnt I got Larry legend. Come on. I get Larry legend if we need more shooting and just the shit talk Damn, we still ain't pick broad hit we like nine plays and you gotta bring bron know at some point Over it's not a over. We doing a twelve. Arrested. No, no, we said five. We said oh five oh five. Oh, yeah, five. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay, five oh it's no disrespect to LeBron who played point did you let step bring it up You let step bring it up in a traditional point. Okay, if you let okay, Jordan and Kobe caused K. I said the block if we got magic I'm putting magic at the point But magic is not there. He's healthy We're talking, this is different things. We need shooters. You have staff there. You have K-D. - You got Jordan and Kobe. - Jordan and Kobe. - Give me magic at the point. Jordan and the two. - You have Jordan playing the three and you have Kobe playing the two. Let Jordan just fuck people up. - So when does that bird go? - He's just a white man, making sure everything's safe. (laughing) It's just, no, you have, you can bird. - Remember Pat Riley's quote about bird. He said if I had to pick one person to save the game, I'm picking Michael Jordan. - I had to pick one person to save my life. - I had to pick it. - Larry Bird. - Okay, so here we go. - Magic goes here with the police. - Magic? (laughing) - No, he pulled me guys all the time. - Magic at the point, Michael is the two. Kobe is the three bird at the four-shack at the five. - Woo! - Woo! - That's crazy. - Aliens, you're getting the fuck out of it. - Get the fuck out of here. Aliens, go to the bars. (laughing) Aliens, get up there! (laughing) - Aliens, get up the fucking goal. - Ain't no way. - Anybody else watch from the stands. - There's no way you're picking anybody else different. - Play that's Clip Taylor. - This is a good conversation, too, man. What's all these things? I did this conversation. - Yeah, man. - Somebody find his name. - There he goes, right there, right there, right there. For us. - This one? - Yes, we love the excitement. And I love the sparring and the music you get. But in this day and age, it's so much negative stuff that comes with it. They almost wish it didn't happen. - Really? - Yeah, because it's not, it's almost like it's a final thing. Now people that like Kendrick hate Drake, no matter what he makes, no matter what he says. And it goes far, too. It's like a tack on his character and his thing. And it's like, I don't know if I love that. I don't know if it's helpful to our growth with the fallout lands, especially on social media, which takes place every day. And now you have these pods of coat. - The Stan Armies, like that. - Yeah, and it's like, it's too far. - Yeah. - It's like bringing people kids in it. - Yeah. - And it's like, I don't like that. You know, maybe I've grown in a space that probably, you know, I sound like the old guy, Wagner thing. But I think we can achieve the same thing as far as like sparring with music. With collaborations more so than breaking the whole thing apart. - It could stand it before, because there was no social media and there was no thing. And you know, you had the battle, it was fun. And then you moved on. - Right. - Right now, I don't know if it could stand it with the technology that we have. - 'Cause it takes up so much oxygen. - It takes up so much oxygen. - Yeah. - And now it's just like every day that just trying to take-- - I'm still talking about it. - No, not just talking about it. Not like, you know, this song, I like this, knows like trying to tear down the people life. - Yeah, yeah. - It's like trying to, you know, wreck this guy's marriage or this guy's relationship with his child. And it's like, no, I don't know, man. I don't know if, I don't know if it's worship at this point. - Yeah. - I don't know. - Senterson. - Again. - That's R.J. Cole is trying to say. - It's old head logic. - And I would say Cole was trying to say. - But he's also underselling how much oxygen, not as far as the J.Z. Took up with that. - And J.Z. I mean, Anne Biggie and Tupal. I like it. - Yeah, there's a lot of dominated in New York City at that time. - Yeah, I think, I mean, there's a cost to this. That's the thing. There's a cost to the energy. There's a cost to the heat, right? Like sometimes. - It's always been though. - No, of course, of course. I think that's just what he's saying. And he's looking back at it as somebody who's lived through it. And he's viewing it, you know, for what is it, Monday morning quarterback, he's like, hmm. But to the victor go to spoils, you could say. But then you could also make the argument that there's a lot of people now that hate Kendrick. Let's say Kendrick won, right? There's a lot of people now that hate Kendrick. Sure. Hate Kendrick simply because they love Drake. That's what he's saying. And vice versa. And so he's going, what was that worth it? Like it was a worth forcing people to decide, forcing people to make these decisions where you can't appreciate someone else's art that you actually low-key kind of think is fire just because you're loyalty to one person. - I'll say what I agree with first of all from this statement. I like what he said about, you know, you can still get your sparring off with collaboration. 'Cause now you got people on records doing records with each other, and they're all trying to one-up each other with versus, right? - Yeah, but the internet was so chaotic. - That's fantastic. - Charlotte, you know this, man. - I totally disagree with the take on battling. Because another thing he did in this interview that I thought was dope, he named like the four elements of hip hop. And he was saying the ones that don't exist anymore, but he was like, you know, battling is like the last one left. And the reason battling is one of the last ones left is the last one left because the MC still matters. The person that's doing the barring up still matters. It's not the beat, it's not the break dance, and it's not the DJ, and it's not the graffiti, the guy with the microphone still matters. And every now and then, we want to see the two best of a generation go heads up. Now, everything Jay-Z is speaking to already existed before the internet. Jay-Z and Nas went to hell on each other in records. - Yeah. - You know, two pop God bless their dead definitely went to hell on Biggie. He starts the song off saying, "That's why I puked you a bitch, you fat mother." That was his ex, his wife, his mother, but it wasn't the same reaction channel, it wasn't the same like reaction channel and like clipping economy that adds so much, you know, gas to the flame. - But talk about, you're right, but the Kendrick Drake battle is very unique. Kendrick and Drake battle would have probably been over a long time ago if somebody knew how to take an L. If Aubrey Graham just simply knew how to take an L and didn't do things like Sue, the record label, I think the best. - Yes, yes. - That was done before that. - No. - He made it worse. - He made it worse. - He sued. I sat here on this podcast, told y'all he was going to sue ingest sarcasm sort of, when I'm right, it's not sarcasm. But it's sort of ingest, right? And he actually did. That is what made it worse. All of the things that have been happening after the fact, all of the Drake fan pages who still can't get over the fact that he just lost the rap battle. So they're constantly digging up stuff, constantly trying to find stuff, constantly trying to rewrite history just because your guy lost a rap battle. Drake kept this going in a way that we've never seen before. None of us know, we've never seen somebody sue after losing a rap battle. That's what makes this scene nastier than what it is. We've seen people get called wild things in rap battles before. We've seen people say, "I fucked your baby mom and this person fucked your wife." And we've seen all of that before. We've never seen nobody sue. - That's true. - Drake made it worse. Drake and Kendrick battle is not only the greatest rap battle of all time. It's the most unique rap battle of all time. We never saw anything like this. We never saw somebody like Kendrick who said it earlier to the victim. Go as well as you said that, Chris. We've never seen anybody get a victory lap like Kendrick. Grammy Awards for a disrecord. Super Bowl halftime show because he had such a monster year. Followed up his disrecord with an album GNX that was critically acclaimed and commercially successful. Go on tour around the world with the biggest R&B artists and fucking perform these records everywhere. Kendrick spiked the football a million different times. We never saw anything like this, guys. And Jay can't even compare this battle to anything. There's no comparison for this. And I know we're talking about the. And that's the other thing. He didn't acknowledge the artist in this other than to say, "Yo, you might like this song, you might like that song." Both of these guys went to hell on each other. You got one guy calling one dude a woman beater and saying that his wife is one of the kids, his best friends. You got Kendrick saying he's a pedophile. Like it was nasty like rap battles are. But it was everything that happened after the battle that made this the most unique rap battle level. So you can't say you don't want to see battles anymore just because of this situation. Because this is never going to happen again. This is never going to happen again. Even when not, think about it. Of course, something like this will happen again. Come on. I don't know. And I think because of the players. This is an improvement in some ways. Yeah, that's a big part. The biggest rap battle is Tupac versus Biggie. You saw how that ended. Yeah. Tupac versus Biggie was the last time in my mind. But you can't even say that because Biggie didn't engage. But it was the. Biggie didn't engage. He said that that wasn't supposed to hurt you. Who shot you as a subordinate? He shot everybody says who shot you as recorded way before. Exactly. I don't know. Biggie didn't really engage directly. But as far as artists wise, man, Pock was a way bigger, artist than Biggie. I know it don't seem like that. No, he was. Pock was a way bigger, artist than Biggie. At the time when Jason Nas, when at each other, Jay was a way bigger, artist than Nas. When Drake, when that meek, Drake was a way bigger, artist than meek. So it was easier for those battles just to keep moving because there's nothing but upside. Nas, you win with Ethan, right? Even though I think over the better song. But Nas, you win with Ethan. So it's nothing but upside for you, right? Yeah, sadly Pock and Biggie got kicked. You know, the smaller guy always says the upside. Meek, meek, never, what are you saying? I'm just saying, we could have just kept doing music, but for some reason he did it. Like something was just off after the battle. You know what I mean? And he really, I mean, honestly, he didn't really. He never recovered. Yes. He lost. He lost. Almost, he kind of recovered when he got with Nicki and then it fell off again. No, they. I know but he had a he was like having songs out and everything. You know what it was when meet man Meeks Achilles heel to me was actually Twitter. Yeah, for sure. And when Drake's when Drake called him Twitter fingers Know what he said was it was a Twitter thing. Yeah, when he called him Twitter fingers Trigger fingers send a Twitter figure finger turned to Twitter fingers And it's just like every time me tweets even now that is day It's pure and I'm like I fuck with me. I think me does a lot for his community You know, he's been a great you know symbol for the city of Philly. I love what he does will reform But I probably would have deleted my Twitter after Twitter fingers And just flooded the streets with nothing but music guys guys guys. We're insane to talk every week We're insane to talk ever. But we're podcast but we're podcast Twitter only Elon makes money You know what you could do the same talking and tweeting you could do in bars. You could just rap. You could just do it It's a kind of crazy thing that people are actively Still talking. Yeah, man met that level makes you to double triple down on just rap just rap like because he's nice Like just flood the streets with music let social media talk let them be crazy and you get off Twitter Just give them music and you know keep going your community work also that like Philly will play for decades. Oh my god Like they'll play that literally for decades dreams and nightmares is like PSA level at this Yeah, I imagine for Philly No for the world now of course the world fit but also the world also has PSA like But we've seen if you see I've seen dreams the nightmare in another country. It's the same. Oh, no I'm not trying to knock it. I'm just trying to say like the emotional connection. We have for PSA right? I'm sure Philly probably loves PSA too and then they get dreams and nightmares And if you have to ask them what we're gonna come out to what we're gonna start with then Philly they're gonna go dreams and Taylor doing that shit our wedding what we do Tell you I want you to play in freeway. I know for you. Of course. I knew I don't freeway Three things you go ahead of Philly wedding dreams and nightmares freeway. What we do is wrong and freaking um No better love from the young guns Every time I step in the booth They already told me tell us that she walking out with her dad to Already She told me that she's walking out the dreams and nightmares at her Ever when you're gonna do what you can't play what we do is wrong. Oh, but we do No, I wasn't gonna play that one. There's gonna be um Oh, you say when you threw the bouquet we're gonna do what we do is wrong All I'm simply saying is just to go back to the point It's all about how you handle a loss after a rap beef But the reason I say this situation is unique Taylor's gonna catch her own bouquet to stay married. She might It's like no play flipside. That's all I'm playing. Oh flip side of spy it from the other Philly classic What the reason this beef was unique is because Kendrick and Drake were literally the two top artists of their generation They're huge like they're massive. There's no there was no underdog in this battle I know that y'all want to think Drake is such a the bigger artist in Kendrick. No, this is a great this is a great point because We remember hip-hop being so massive at the time But it wasn't close to the level it is right now. Not at all You're looking at the two biggest figures in a genre of music that is at its pinnacle. Yes, right? It's at its zenith globally Yeah, you're right. So this This might not happen again. It's it's a never happened in order for it to happen again hip-hop has to be ubiquitously the most popular music across the planet and the two biggest guys have to be with each other That's a hard thing doesn't and not only the two biggest guys Status-wise actually dope emcee. Yeah, they're nice regardless of how I may feel about the half a Caucasian Nice Aubrey Graham. He's nice. Nice. When he wraps. He's nice. He's okay. He's not Kendrick But he's nice to some people So some people he's Kendrick. Well, you gotta understand like people in the way that you don't fuck with It's the way that the M&M music might not touch you. Yeah Like but they went head up so If you and another comedian go head up and you're washing with jokes We showed to the guy but what I would say is In in comedy there are going to be some people who are just like, you know what? I like clean comedy This makes me feel uncomfortable. So I like that. But what happened at night? We all know what happened that we can Nice as biracial comment What the fuck is this Christmas? We were talking before I thought why that's a hard left Because before the show we were saying who's the greatest byracial comedian Give me the greatest byracial comedian That's body Not byracial. Well, he still said it all. How was he saying? He should have said half of it When your byrus you can only say half Really you say the girl Then his white you went to be a tiger It is white you better be a tiger Then his black you can say the first part but then his white if you're a hat if you're a byracial you won't like or object like can only do You know what I'm saying? I don't have white in black. Oh say again. Can peel or they have white who but I'd not stand-ups Brilliant sketch comedians, but not traditional stand-ups. Who's have white? Can peel, aren't they? I don't know. I know. I know Yeah, I think they're both that's crazy if both of their parents up there both by ratio. I think so right really I also collectively they can say together But yeah, I'm just saying yeah jazzy shouldn't base his opinion on battling off this battle This is this was different you know, I'm saying and and and and when you talk about oh gee is different like he got perspective on life now He's looking back at things and going I think I think he's also reflecting on him and not and he's like bam I think he regrets that him and not him and nods were able to move on because they simply moved on Yeah, but I'm saying. Yeah, I don't know. He regrets that bad Hey, we don't it was great. Oh, yeah, you don't you don't worry. By the way, that's the best case scenario Kendra the best case scenario is you spar Y'all go at it y'all might not like each other for a while, but then at some point y'all piece it up Yeah, do you think if they had social media back then it would have like If they had social media back then JZ would have been the recipient of all the means Because now I said all of the funny shit and it's shit. Not knowing you're on JZ some dope slick shit and take over I think they go with the better record, but you know they would have been camel memes You know what I'm saying? It had been J would ask actual rat whiskers. I could have been crazy back then Did you see your baby seat that yeah, that was horrible now rock fellas chains Like there would have been like even had probably you think that they would have still made up that's what I'm asking I don't yes. I know this is a great this is a great argument With are you are you making up based on what the other person says or you making up based on what the audiences are making you feel Oh, and I think that's what you're getting at is like sometimes sometimes the internet is like the schoolyard where everybody else is going Oh, he said that and you're really reacting to what the schoolyard is doing not to what the person is saying yeah So I mean the reality is you know pocket biggie aren't alive anymore But they said things that stuck forever. Yeah, like what's it? People are still debating Tupac sleeping with biggie life right now. That's a creature is literally A verb people use when somebody gets washed in the street like you know what I'm saying And it's anything with Kendrick and mother fucking Drake. I'm sure Drake has been places and heard say oh me Oh like I'm sure he's gotten that so many times like I'm sure that shit Sticks just like Twitter fingers stuff to me. Yeah, so in great rap battles. There's going to be things that stick but the artists Have to learn to move on if the artists move on so what a fans the only reason people haven't moved on in this situation is because of Drake I'm telling you if Drake had in the suit and made this the issue and all of that other shit They hit it. It had been gone right Drake wasn't sitting around you know talking to his influence of friends and you know Telling him things and they get on podcasts and on their screams and talk about it like not It would have been gone already, but that's the thing. That's what the internet does. There's a place for it and the battle of the artist But the battle is one on the internet kind of between the stand communities not really between the artists What is the artist would already when I would have would have drake would have changed the temperature already You put out the party next door. I'm right What if you did what if ice man ice man might change the temperature unless he's still rapping about this shit We heard snippets from the mother fucking. He's still throwing shot like let the shit go if you move on so well the audience what Did you make the joke about like what timing for him like during ice in America? He's putting out an hour. No, I wasn't mad. I saw that though. Yeah, I mean bro. Yeah, that was great It's not even natural ice man is a gay superhero Bobby Drake is a gay superhero. He's gay and shut up. I got Wolverine tattooed on my arm. Bet you want to bet you mouth Well, people, I want them to, if you're so sure, you bet your mouth. - Google Bobby Drake should read the comics. - Google Bobby Drake, he wasn't gay. - Gay Superhero. - Shell, that's your mouth. - Bobby Drake is a gay super, Iceman is a gay superhero, guys. - Wasn't he with Rowe, him and Rowe were dating. - Rowe, I'm just telling you what the fuck is going on, okay? All right, Bobby Drake got a boyfriend in his comic book. Bobby Drake is canically gay in Marvel Comics community. - I'm looking at myself. - The character was outed in 2015 by his younger self via Gene Gray in all new X-Men number 40. - Wow. - By historically portrayed as heterosexual writers hinted at his sexuality earlier and the revelation allowed him to step out of the closet. - Bobby Drake, can't it gay? Bobby Drake, can you go have to explain that? - I see that, and by the way, that's some, that's worse than putting out an album with the IC. - I hate it. - Now he just put that into the air and now everybody's gone crazy. - If you were him has to ask that question, that's gotta be wondered, why would you name your album Iceman after Bobby Drake who came out as gay? Are you trying to tell us something Drake? - Yeah, that's a little bit. - That's just an obvious question in the interview. I mean, I don't interview people often, but if I was interviewing some of them. - How is he interviewing people often? It's crazy. - I don't really have any experience in interviewing a game, but if I was interviewing somebody who comes out with an album called Iceman and his name is Drake and the character Bobby Drake from Marvel Comics was known as heterosexual but decided to come out as gay, I need to ask some questions about that. 'Cause I would put my hand on this shoulder and say, you don't have to do this. Okay, there's other ways to get people talking about other things. - All right. - Okay. - That's all I'm simply saying. - Does it make the beef a hate crime? - Damn, oh. Damn. Maybe that's what he's going for. - Yeah, no, I'm saying. 'Cause not like Gus takes on a whole new meaning. When it's coming from a heterosexual perspective to a half, to a potential homosexual. I'm just saying, you know what I'm saying? I'm just saying, all I'm saying, guys. - You gotta stop, Jay. - Iceman on the way. - All right. - Iceman on the way, he. - No. - It's got, man, it's got too much fit. - I know, you got a lot else. - Should I go to the main? - Let me tell you something. Should I go to the main where fuck you money is a problem. (laughing) It's a problem. It's like a dictator that's been in power too long. Like, it nothing matters. - I know. - Nothing matters. - I feel like I'm just saying some comments. - You're free. - You're free, bro. - I feel like I'm saying some comments. - You're liberated, bro. - Let me ask you a question. - Nobody can hurt you anymore. - Yeah, I'm asking a question. - Yeah, ask me a question. - I feel like the question you're gonna ask me is just you talking. - After knowing you. - I feel like you're not even gonna ask me a question. - After knowing this information, could Iceman Bobby Drake is Jay in Marvel comments, and Drake is naming his album that. Don't you want to know why he named his album Iceman? - Yeah. - How come we haven't seen the Iceman movie? - Yeah, shit. - I'm just fucking Netflix and typing gay romcoms, and see what comes up. - No, there's a TV show about it. It's called Heated rivalry. (laughing) (laughing) - Oh, that's cool. - That's cool. (laughing) - That's cool. - What's up, dude, guys? - That's cool. - That's cool. - That's cool. - Don't try to set it on. It's a professional. - That's cool. - Let's play some builds, man. - That's cool. - Let's play some builds. (upbeat music) - You got some church announcements. Has the Kyle Walker? - Yes, sir. - Skip, this week I'll be in Rhode Island. And then I got that show with Jelly for the Netflix's joke fest coming up. I believe that's in May. And then I got a show in Halifax Nova Scotia this summer. And then I think I'm gonna add a few different. Think I'm gonna add a few different clubs. Like I did this last weekend in Nashville to kind of like start carving out what this next hour is gonna be. And that was a fun experience. So I wanna get back out there. So I think I'll be announcing that in the near future. - You going to be in Providence? - I'll be in Providence this weekend for sure. - Yeah, man, go to Eerie Godless Biscuit, man. - Yeah. - I was there a couple of weeks ago. Soothe Eerie Godless Biscuits. I'll let that play. I went there twice when I was there that weekend. - Why were you in Providence? - My daughter's healing competition. But yeah, I went there Eerie Godless Biscuit twice, bro. - Really? Oh my God, the chicken maple, I get the chicken maple biscuit with no cheese and egg. - Oh, that place is so good, bro. Eerie Godless Biscuit, a small little spot. But you should pop in there, man. - Oh my God, check it out. - If you like biscuits. - I love biscuit guys. - Who doesn't like biscuits, but it's just so like, I'm 42, bro. I'm not trying to blow the fuck up. - No, just do one. - What do you want? - It's just chicken maple for that. - We get fat, bro. That's what it is. It's just bread at this age. - No, that's true. - No, you don't get to eat bread anymore. - I went to Jersey, Mike Shestady and had a, I had a wheat bread and I just had to regular with it. - It don't even matter. - It don't matter. - I felt so fat last night. - I sourdough, it's all the same. Fuck outta here, you're gonna be fat for a week. - Can't fuck with the bread. - Now you're right. - This guy just had a bowl of cinnamon toast crunch. - What? - This guy's fucking crazy. - Why do you hate your life? - Fucking crazy. - I was asleep. - I need to wake up. - It's good. - Not that it's good. - It's good. - There's difference between it being good and will it stay on our body for a week. - Man. - Here's the thing, but you know what, Alex, you're actually eating cinnamon toast crunch the way you should. - Which is? - As a snack. - Yeah. - You've been fucking up eating a cereal for breakfast. That shit is a snack, bro. - So you know what's crazy is that they would feed us fucking cookie-grilled cinnamon toast crunch cocoa pebbles at 7.30 and then expect us to sit down and pay attention - Try to put this on Ridley. - What the fuck? - You gave us all that sugar for us in the fucking morning. - So now you got every kid on fucking Ridley because you're popping us full of sugar in the morning. - I got the nerve to be mad at me because I'm pulling fire along just to right outside the fucking science room. - You're giving me a line up below. You're giving a 12-year-old a line of coke and then asking him to learn fucking geography. - Telling me to sit still. - Fuck outta your sit still. - I don't even control my little adolescent body. - No. - You're giving me all his sugar, but I gotta just sit here. - Yeah. - Nice to know. - What? - That's not right. - How many times did you pull the fire? - Every time. - Final on, I pulled it twice. - That's it? - Yeah, twice. I pulled the fire alarm at the Charleston Museum one time. When I was a kid. - What does the Charleston Museum have in it? - Back in the day, they had like dinosaur monsters museum. But it was, I didn't even pull the alarm. I opened the emergency exit door. Like the door they tell you not to open. 'Cause I swore that that's what it was hiding. The good shit. - I don't remember that shit. - Oh my God. - 'Cause I'm looking at the dinosaur fossils and everything. And I'm asking questions. I was like, "I don't remember how old I was. I got asked my mom how old I was." And they were like, "I saw the door and the door said, do not open." And my brain just was like, "Why?" - You can't breathe. - It's not open that fucking door. - What's back there? - What's back there? - What's back there? I know it's some good shit back there. I opened that shit, set the whole alarm off at the motherfucking museum. - But did you find something? - No. - Yeah. I didn't know we had to evacuate. Everybody had to get the fuck out of the museum. - Wait a minute, sure. I mean, you're saying that the museum wasn't hiding the good shit? - I didn't even go past the door. - Funny idea. Like the museum, which is there to show you shit, is like, "No, we can't go all this way." - You probably got the good shit in the back. - Like what? - I don't know. I don't know if I believe in dinosaurs anymore. - Did you ask him where you're free man, movie? - What? - What? - Why? - You believe every day? - You have old things. - Yeah, but they can have, I don't believe. - They don't show us that shit anymore. The last thing you see in dinosaur fossils, yeah. - I don't believe, you know, I don't go. None of y'all believe dinosaurs look the way they looked, right? - Yeah, no. - I think they look a little bit. - Or even their sound. - But they still was big. - They're just chickens, right? It's big chickens. It's big birds. That's what it is. - Did you watch it? - What? - The mug you're free man. - He's not a dinosaur. He's just a little chicken. - That's the tree back there. - Why are you doing it? Why don't you even let you? - Don't you say that to somebody like your grandfather? - He's not even. - I don't even know why you would don't say that. He would be her grandfather. - That was hell bound. You hell bound. (laughing) - Hell crazy. You are hell people who have said that. - You are hell. - No, I told you. - You need to get on your knees and repent for that. - Who are you talking about? - No, that's your mouth. - Man. - That's your mouth is insane. - That is crazy. - That's you invented that? - Crazy. - That's your mouth. - You invented that? - Yes. - I'm be betting my mouth on this podcast for years. - Son, we have. - Yo, it's crazy, bro. - What is going on? - Oh, yeah. - This is insane. - Every now and then, I still get to treat that. You're like, "Yo, you still old six nine, top, yo." - Yo. - Yeah. - He invented your mouth first. - Yeah. - But I don't care. - I said it. - Yeah, because this is what y'all don't understand. I said this thing. - Yeah, but you got to understand. He can't really collect it. One day, you're going to bet your mouth on something who could collect. - Not. - Yeah. - I don't bet, I bet, I bet other mouth. Oh, church announcements. Black Effect podcast festival, April 25th, Atlanta, Georgia, Bowman Yards, pull up, pull up, pull up. All the fan packages are already sold out. I don't know why y'all always buy fan packages. Thank y'all, we appreciate you. Student tickets are still left. Some general admission tickets are still left. Go to blackaffect.com/podcastfestival. Drink champs is going to be on that stage. Norean DJE FN Mona, don't call me white girls. Going to be on that stage. Crystal Renee Hassler is gonna be on there with the keeper positive and sweetie podcast. Carlos King with reality with the King is gonna be there. The Bonte Collin ice cup cat, they'll be there with the Gritzenegs podcast. And Jeff Teague with Club 520 will be there. So go get your tickets, blackaffect.com/podcast festival, man, I had a great time last week, huh? - I had something. - You know what I thought about that? - 'Cause he was bent and malped, send it, send it. Atlanta. - I don't think Atlanta's as good as it used to be. - Well, well, well, well, well, well. - I don't think he's gonna be there. - Why'd you throw gay out there? - What? - How's it do, that's what it was. I can land it like, at one point, Atlanta might've been against it in America. - You could bet mouth for anything. - No, that's not the right bet. - But you could bet mouth for a guy to girl. - Who would bet that? (laughs) - Who would want to want that? - Can't say. - Nice bet. - That's a good bet. It's a win-win. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no. - What? - You know the bet I want. - What's the bet you want? - You gonna suck Bobby Drake's popsicle? - Oh, come on. It's popsicle. - It's free stick. - You're gonna suck Bobby Drake's free stick. (laughs) - What tail, what tail up? - Um. - This is dope. - I'm gonna just say with the black effect, I will be out there too, doing man on the street. - Hey, little tail again. - Oh. - Mama T, what are you gonna be asking people? - I don't have any decided, but it's gonna be. - You gonna bring your little tiny mic? - I should, but I feel like I'm about to advance to this other camera. - Okay. - Also, I haven't made an announcement yet of what it is, but I have an event coming in May, so stay tuned. - Taylor, you gotta tell her how to promote it. - Taylor, what just happened? - Exactly. - Right. - Taylor, we need to know what just happened. - You have an event, you know what I'm saying? You gotta say something like, Iceman on the way, you know what I'm saying? - Okay, I'm having an entrepreneur event, so stay tuned for more details. - Oh, can you give us some details? I'm curious about this. - Don't worry, Taylor, if you don't have it together, yet don't worry, it's a nice tease. - No, I mean, it's coming together, but we haven't made an announcement yet, remember. - Okay. - Well, we will be there to support. - Yes, I don't know yet. I gotta see what it is. - Okay, there. - Gotta hear more, I need more details. That's what I need. - So, me, people, say that if you know. - What is it gonna be? - People, it's gonna be in May. - In May, okay. - If you haven't heard, I have a new show. It's called AM Mornings. Check me out every Sunday live at 11 a.m. Eastern. It's a live calling show. I wanna hear from you guys. So, yeah, that's AM Mornings on YouTube. See you guys there. - Okay, well, blackaffect.com/podcastbest will get you tickets. Damn, there was something else I wanted to talk about. Maybe it'll come back to me. What else we got to tell again? Oh, NASCAR, man, it's the Lootin NASCAR. I had a great time. - That's all you out there. - Man, I had a great time, man. I was at Darlington Raceway for the O'Reilly. Oh, what's the race called? The O'Reilly. Oh, long, let me get the name of the race, right, man. - Race? O'Reilly. - O'Reilly. - I mean, that is them. They sponsored it. - Yeah, O'Reilly Auto Parts series. - Wow. - My guy, Roger Karouf. - Roger Karouf, he has a-- - Any relation to Ray? - No, I asked him that. - And what did he say? - No, they not, they not related. But I had a-- - Do you sponsor his car? - I sponsor his car. - I sponsor his car. - I sponsor his car for that event. Roger is an up and coming star at NASCAR. He's only the third black driver to win like a NASCAR series. Let me get, let me get Roger's stat. Let me get Roger's information, Ray, 'cause I want y'all to look up Roger Karouf. And we're gonna have, I said that because we're gonna have the NASCAR race simulator-- - Simulator. - Simulator. - Jesus Christ. - This is fucking job. (laughing) - We're gonna have, yeah, see the third black driver to win a NASCAR national touring series race. - Wow. - Following Windows, Scott, and Bubba Wallace. - Well, we're gonna have the race car simulator at the black event podcast festival, 'cause you know, that's how Roger learned to drive. - I actually-- - He blew up, he blew up, he's the only driver to get pulled over during a race, did you know that? (laughing) - Taylor, what the hell is he doing? (laughing) - Taylor, did you know that race? - I didn't, that race. - That was crazy. I didn't, I couldn't believe it. - I didn't see that one. - I couldn't believe it, Charlotte. - That black fair call of fire. - Did it? - Oh my God, dude. - Oh, let's do this one. Larusso, I'm not sure Russian, so I'm having a sin. We never spoke about this. Are you up on Larusso? - I love this kid for a while, dude. - It's my guy. - I think this, and it's like, this is a very tricky one, obviously, but this guy's fantastic. This guy's fantastic. Did you buy his album? - How many? He's got 30 albums. - Well, no, he just released one kind of on his own, and his goal was to sell like a 100,000 copies. - No, he's released 30 albums on his own. - This last one, the goal was to sell 100,000 copies, and people were, you know, crying, son. - Did I? - I don't know, I had him on Burpees Club. I don't know if I did it. I really can't remember if I did it or not. I believe I did. Larusso's my guy. Hoveane put me on the Larusso God bless the dead. Hoveane was managing Larusso at the time in Hoveane. I remember when, it was like 2021, and I was in South Carolina for the summer, not for the summer, but for like four or five July or something, and Hoveane texted me. He was like, "Yo, listen to that freestyle I sent you." And I was like, "Bet." But I didn't listen to it. He texted me. He was like, "You didn't listen to that freestyle I sent you." 'Cause he knew if I heard it. - You'd be like, "I'd be like, just do it as amazing." And that's literally what I thought. I'm like, "Yo, this guy is amazing." And you know, he's, he's went on to create such a great land for himself independent. Now he signed to a rock nation and they're upset with him. Because he said, it says, "Hollywood Unlocks says, "Rapple Larusso doubles down on lyrics, claiming Adolf Hitler, Donald Trump, Jeffrey Epstein, "We're a heaventhead, then deactivates the count "after intensified backlash." - This is a tricky one because I'd be curious to ask, and I imagine he's a God-fearing man. I don't know his background, but if he is a devout Christian, what he's saying is that these people who he knows have committed heinous acts are also heaven-sent, right? That's what he's saying, right? That's what his claim is. I'd be hard-pressed to find a religious figure that wouldn't say the same thing about. - Not heaventhead. I mean, aren't we, isn't every, but isn't the point that he's trying to make it? - I think that also has a connotation. - Yeah, heaventhead, me, and this is what's very important. When I, you know, I listen to the song again. - Might be the thing where I'm defending the wrong thing. - No, no, no, no, you're not, you're not, you're not, you're not, you're not, you're not, you're not, you're not, you're not, you're, you're, you're, what, what you're doing is, you're understanding the context of something. - I'm just trying to understand somebody who I've followed, and I thought was like really talented. - But you see the internet piling on him, and I see that what he said and how controversial it is, but maybe given like the amount of stuff I've watched him do, I'm like, I don't see this guy is trying to go, "Hey, these guys are okay." - You understand the context. - Yeah. - If you actually listen to the song, and you heard his explanation afterwards, I understood the context, what he messed up is using the words having sent, 'cause having sent means something that feels like it was sent by God or a higher power to help you bless you or save you at the right moment. Now, what LaRussel is simply saying is that God created, that's what I created all of the things. I mean, the reality is, he did, like, what is it? - Yeah, Isaiah 45-7, I formed the light. - So we have to create darkness, I make peace and create evil. I, the Lord, do all these things. - So let me ask you a question. - Yo, Satan was created in heaven. He's a fallen angel. - Satan is heaven sent. - No. - I don't know. - He's since when in music or art, do we have to use the exact definition of a word, or else it is interpreted in the word possible? - Because of the internet. - No, no. - So there's two different words matters. - So there's two different words. - So there's two different things. I don't think anybody, I'd be, I doubt, I don't want to speak for anybody. But like me, the way I'm looking at this is, the reason he's saying it in it's such a provocative thing to say, the reason he even goes, "Hey, my engineer told me not to put this out." He's prevising you with, "Hey, I'm going to say something that I know is literally going to sound horribly wrong." But these people are human beings, horrible things that they've done. Hainists, the worst of the worst, but they are also human beings. Now, I don't know what he means by that. I don't know if he thinks that they shouldn't be punished. Maybe he thinks they'll receive the ultimate punishment from God for what they've done. But who else created them if not God? But that's a different conversation. I agree. That's what I thought he was trying to say. That was the context of what he was saying. Once again, Isaiah 45-7, "I form the light and create darkness. I make peace and create evil. I the Lord do all these things." Once again, Satan was created in heaven. I just don't think that their heaven sent, like Satan was a fallen angel. You know, a better question, 'cause you know, like Leristle, we can agree that heaven sent things was wrong. But we do know that God did create all of these entities, right? And the better question is, could they repent for their sins? That's tough, like that. Now, have you a Christian and you have to believe that everybody can repent for their sins? Could those individuals he named repent? I don't know. I'm just asking. - No, it should be able to. - 'Cause they got this hell, right? - They should be. - God, there's hell. - I don't even know what repent for your sins means. - Yeah, 'cause I don't want to hear that shit. - We're asked forgiveness. - Yeah. - Yeah. - And change, baby. - Get a little change behavior. You can't, but that's my point. That's, I don't think that's what you're saying, too, Chris. Like, could Hitler have been a born-again Christian? Could Epstein have been a born-again Christian? Like, hell, no, we're like, with the Bible, just talk about hell. Now, I don't believe, I don't, I don't be saying, you know, such as going to hell, I don't believe that I'm, I don't have the moral authority to stay some shit like that, but it's based on - This is where it gets tricked, man. - Them guys are perverted and blamed. - You would hope eternal damn nation. - You would hope, that's all I'm saying. - Yeah. - But definitely. - You guys really think there's a hell, honestly. - I don't know, I don't know. - I don't know. - I think you live in it. - Yeah, I do. - Yeah, I do. - But again, I don't know. But like, I think that you live in your hell. - I think that you can also live in your heaven. - I think heaven is what you make in hell is what you go through to get there. - Yeah, I think that works too. But like, also, like, if you're living a sinning life, like, yeah, there's some sociopaths out there that just don't feel and they have competitive advantage because they just don't feel that empathy towards other people. But for people who do feel empathy and they're doing fucked up shit all the time and say, yeah, they're living in hell. They're miserable. - Oh, yeah. - They're fucking miserable. - Absolutely. I see it in their eyes on YouTube every day. But listen, none of y'all answered the question. And that's how you know, what was the question? Could those people repent and become born again? - No. - I don't think so either. - Well, according to whom, to Chris Nell, you know, - I don't believe in the question. - Chris, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I personally don't, I don't have the forgiveness that Christ got. That's why he's Christ and that's why we're humans. - But God, Christ, they gave us rules, man. Like, really specific rules and some people, some people overstep a little bit and some people be like, fuck it, Satan. You are king. - There are people I, I don't forgive and they don't even know it. (laughing) - Well, God made man in his image, according to his likeness. - Yeah. - You don't forgive often. I'm just saying, I don't, I, - I wanna get better at it. - I just don't think, I just don't think. - I wanna get better at it. It's powerful though, forgiveness is powerful. - I think that's it. - So should we forgive LaRussel for this? - Absolutely. - Just a bad choice of words. - He said he has an interview. - But the bad thing is that. - I did say it with Gene of Views and DJ Hayd, my people have kind of doubled down and he didn't do what Shultz did. Shultz was like, oh, I misunderstood the meaning of that word. If he would have just said that, because I do think he's trying to say the same thing. Oh, these are all God's children, but by using the word heaven sent, implies that these people that did positive things. He would have just admitted, oh shit, I misspoke. - That's all he has to say. - But does anybody actually believe that LaRussel thinks that they did positive things, those three people that you mentioned? - No, but that's why words matter. Heaven sent literally means something or someone that feels like it was sent by God or a higher power to help you. Bless you, or save you at the right moment. The literal idea. Heaven equals God, divine source, sent equals delivered to you. So it literally means sent from heaven for a purpose. - That's a tough lie. - What you mean? - Well, this is like when you see a NBA game or a college game and after the game, they ask the player on the winning team, you know? Anything's, oh, I want to thank God for, you know, oh, God wanted to determine the outcome of a second round NCAA game. - But see, I disagree with that, Chris. - Chris, I don't think about it. - I don't think those players are thanking God for winning. I think they're thanking God for just being able to finish a game healthy, not getting hurt. - But that implies God made the decision that this player shouldn't get hurt. - No. I don't believe in so-called good or so-called bad. I believe everything is just part of a process. And yo, and I think-- - But what's the other side of that coin, is one of those. - Yeah. - Which I agree with. - Which I mean, what's the other side of the coin? Okay, there are kids going to dive into it. - I've heard this take. - But I've heard this take. - So what's the answer? - No, I think that, like I've heard this take and this is like the classic atheist take and the criticisms of the all-powerful God who was, you know, dictating destiny where it's like, okay, a kid dies of cancer and you're like, why would God want to do that? Yes, I've heard that. The, I think what happens here is like you have a choice in life to decide that the things that happen to you happen to you because you're smited happen to you for no real reason at all or happen to you because they're preparing you for some other better outcome in the future. And the one that probably gives you the most joy is going, hey, I'm going through this really tough time right now. And I need to figure out what this is, why this is happening to me and why it's going to help me ultimately get to this amazingly beautiful time because it's really easy to wallow in your sadness and go, woe is me and why does everything horrible. Yeah, it can offer you resiliency. So whether it's a belief that you truly have and you believe in God and God is there for you or whether you are choosing to take a positive mindset into an incredibly negative situation, there's one direction you can go that potentially makes you happy and there's one direction you can go that justifies all your sadness. And I think it's harder to be positive in those negative times. You know, we need just one time because one time we need some people to go live from the other side and just remind us just to show us, right? Like there might be people that we'd be like, then why would God allow that to happen and then we go on the other side and they like, yo, life is lit over here. My God, God needed me on this side and I'm doing my, I'm doing my thing. This is amazing. Well, then you need some people to go live from eternal damn nation to be like, please kids, change them up. That would be the beyond scared straight of the century, but get the presence. Yeah. What happens if you really in hell, boy, if we knew hell really existed, oh man, man, you worried about person? By the way, I would respect, I would respect all the evil people, man. Oh, if you saw that and then double that, oh, because you knew how they, the ultimate scared straight. Oh, that'd be the greatest show me hell showing me hell would change so many people's lives overnight. But then there's no point of faith. Yeah. There's no faith. No, that's not true. Well, you don't need faith if you got proof, but still you, I think, man, you actually have something stronger than faith. Complete submission. If you, if complete submission, if you knew that was a hell, right, and you knew that was a heaven, it wouldn't even be as you like, yo, no, I don't know about y'all, but I'm going to get baptized. I'm over here. Yo, all praises do to God. I don't know about that. And by the way, faith is great, but man, submission, ultimate submission, like, but 300,000, 500,000 years of human history ever long we've been here. Wouldn't God just let us get a little 10 second clip? I think he does. When? All the time. I think we don't pay attention to the signs. I know, I don't know about y'all, but I know when my life is going great because I'm actually doing the right things and when my life is going bad because I'm not that glad that's why there's certain things and over the last decade, whatever, don't anything at me. I know I'm living righteous. But what pride of that? I know I ain't doing right by my way. So it's sort of a fucked up shit that happened, like fuck man, like I caused that to happen. But when I start moving the way I know that I'm supposed to move, and I'm about here living right justly and doing right by my way, I don't give a fuck. What happens? I know that's not my energy. So that's just something that God wants me to go through for the moment, and I learn from it and keep it moving. She sucking your teeth cold. Because what happens when you be like making fun of people and everything? Don't listen to the devil, y'all. You see how they, you see how they're saying, this is what I want y'all. Don't listen to the devil. You see how you see it? I was the devil over. You hear the devil in the corner. The devil just sucked his teeth because I said if I do right by God, my life goes great. But when I do the wrong thing, it goes bad. And you hear the devil suck his teeth, like get back out here and get on these holes and they don't think, okay? No. Wait, wait, wait. I'm going to say pee. I'm going to be honest with you. You know, it took me a while. My first couple years of getting together and so, you know, I want to get some shit. Do your thing, bro. Shit. Married. See ya now. Yeah. That's the fucking thing. Exactly. It's very clear. My fans say he's not going to be given to the devil like how you did. So. He married to him. He's just being proposed. That's it. He proposed. I don't know that. He proposed. And that's the case and like me in your corner then. Oh, keep your friends close. You can't have light without dark. Gotta keep your little bit of darkness around just so you know what light looks like. Let's pay some bills and do some masculinity. It's my own. I want one more thing about the the Russell thing for you put a button on it. You know, um, is this bad to talk about this is just like, no, no, no, no, no, I think it's good. I think it's good. The other thing about the the Russell thing though is that, um, your guys has it and see to defend him makes me feel uncomfortable. I don't think it's the, I, the Russell, my guy, I ain't going, you know, I roll my people. I don't think, I don't think it's the defense. He was, his wording was wrong. He should have said, have it said, but his sentiment, right, when we're having these conversations about, um, you know, no God creating these, it's, it's kind of this, another part of that energy is like, you know how when somebody dies, right? Like, all right, they're not, somebody kills somebody and somebody's family. You know, you see it oftentimes, you see these, you know, I think about Dylan Roof at a manual AME when Dylan Roof, you know, you know, kill all of those people in my hometown at Charleston, South Carolina, the family forgave him or like, you see these situations happen other times where like, the murderer will kill somebody in the family and the family forgives the murder. And now listen, I don't know if the family truly feels like that, but their faith and their religion makes them do that. And I think that's what you're seeing a lot of in LaRussel's take as well. It's rooted in like Christian religion, which is these people were created by God too. I'm not saying that's right. I'm not saying that's wrong. I'm just saying that is the belief of a lot of people around this world that believe in Christian. Yeah, so I don't know. That's just my my button on it. Wanna do some bills? Let's do it. Before we do some African idiots, I want us to loot the Frazier Tharp too, man. That's who sat down with Jay-Z and did the interview. Frazier Tharp, he works with GQ Magazine. I've seen his name before because I've read a couple of few of his articles actually prior. I read his clips feature before. He had this article about what was the future after the rap battle with Kendrick and Dre. I mean, he's written some really good stuff. So, salute the Frazier Tharp. I don't I want people to salute the person I was doing the interview. I don't know him personally, but I've seen his work before. He used to be on complex, right? I think so. Like back in the day. I think he might have used to be on complex. Yeah. I know we said never do a podcast if you're famous, but there is something fun about doing one like once a year. You know, like for like a Jay-Z or for like any of these like big celebrities. There is something fun about like once a year just making a moment out of it. I mean, I'm Jay-Z even better. This is shit. This is once in what every I can't even remember the last Jay-Z interview. Jay-Z was the last one with um, buddy. Come on. Nah, bro. You're not getting me. I'm just a man too excited. No, it's too easy. No, let's do some nasty nitty-nitty. It's a man. Wait. Are you nervous? Taylor, huh? That was about what? It says you can now listen to the army at 42. 47. I don't know where but that's shit. Yeah. With your loose. Alex Alex Alex. Alex got a worry. How old are you Alex? Half a second. Yo, it's got me. Uh, 35. I'm 42. Shit. Oh, you'd be good. You know, you'll be done. But they said April. Oh, shit. This April. That's a lot of trouble. I might be going. I'm going. Hey, we're going to wrap this floor up, bro. We got to wrap this. We're forced people. I just don't see how they. I also, I always don't feel guilty in that rapper. I'm not, not doing some sort of a service. I am going to say I'm good. I think America. They don't understand their, uh, they don't understand their citizens in 2026. Everybody going to be like Muhammad Ali. Oh, by the way, not because of any reasons that Muhammad Ali did just because we lazy as a motherfucker. Not even that. Nobody going to know. Fuck you. You gotta tell us what, why are we there first? Stay not going. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. Sin ice. Get ice out the app. Yo, low kitty. Sin ice to go fight. Yeah, bring TSA back. Bring TSA back. You see the videos and I've been doing nothing. They're the point. I don't know. I have no idea. I'm not sure. I have no idea. But the, the, the draft is not going to work in America in 2026. Not for this. No, not for this. It'll be going to work for any war. I think it depends. Like, I think if you should, they got this is America. You just say here. Yes. That's it. America. I think shit about Russia in China. America got too much freedom. They ain't giving that shit up to go to war. Brian, I just call a roly a 17 says struggle food that you still make for your kid or yourself still. Spaghetti sandwiches. Oh, that's great. That's why I love spaghetti sandwiches. That's also white bread. Oh, so white bread is amazing. No one else knows about that. But you, everyone else I said, like, they're so confused about my wife. You're making spaghetti now for the kids. I mean, so mad. Why would you make that shit and make me eat grilled cheese and broccoli and fucking sweet potatoes? You know, they're saying, like, why can't I? Can you make the pasta with some wheat, maybe? You know, me put a little turkey ground beef instead of the beef. Can you think about the less fortunate in this fucking house? Right? What's the struggle? Is it like real pasta? You just put it between the sandwich? No. You make me get it. I make mine with one bread and then you just put like a taco. Yeah, and that's what I do. That's crazy. It's pasta's bread. Yeah. You just have it's bread on bread. No, no, you're right. Yeah. So what? It's that struggle food that you still make for your kid or yourself still. So this is patents. I also want that struggle food. It's different. I don't think it's struggle food at all. I'm just saying this is back where we have all the calories. I can make it seem so crazy. It's just black, bro. That was one of my favorite meals, bro. My mom will mix spaghetti and then I just call it my mom will mix spaghetti with corn and just take the white bread and you take the white bread and put this spaghetti and the white bread and eat that shit like a fucking hot dog on a taco. Do you know how can do you have spaghetti with fish? Fry fish? Because they do that. They do that in the country. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. So you depth said that. Eat fish is spaghetti. What's the struggle food that you still make for your kid or yourself still, Andrew? Stryller slices? No, struggle food is crazy because I don't think it's struggle food, but like I'm like I like cereal and I don't think it's struggle, but like I'm a grown-up and I'll eat cereal. Like it's like, listen, I get the candy. You can't complain. Are you in week with the milk? No, I go milk. I go a special care of red berries, but it's like, I love it. I love this. I would have it for dinner. I don't have it for any time. I possibly can. But it's not struggle. Like spaghetti sandwiches is struggle. No, they not listen. You know what? Struggling? Not eating. Okay. Yeah. I don't like the called food. Struggle food. That's true. That ain't food. You can eat. Now, salute to Colleen Witt. Colleen has the show Eatin' Wild Broke on the Black Effect. So you don't call it struggle, though. She just called it Eatin' Wild Broke. What was the thing that you used to eat while you were broke? When you was broke. Yeah. Yeah. They don't call peanut butter and jelly, struggle food? No. Oh, yeah. That's a street ice cream. That's ice cream. By year. Now every now and then I got to indulge in a few buckles. It's kind of a struggle food if you're eating it multiple times a day. Yeah. Or if you're not having it for breakfast. Oh, cereal is a snack. But I don't consider it struggle. Me neither. What's it? If you eaten that ain't a struggle. Yeah. Yeah. Like when we're eating all these things, it's a choice. If you have to eat spaghetti and bread. Yes. That's a struggle. No, that's not. No, it's not. You got spaghetti and bread. You're making this spaghetti. It's spaghetti means that's a pasta that ground beef. That's sauce. Whatever season you put in there. And you got bread. That's a one of me. When you all get pasta from don't like give you bread. So what's the problem? No, no. You're making sense in terms of like you dip the bread into the sauce, but then you eat the pasta, et cetera. And you're just like mashing it together. I get it. But it's just crazy. The idea to put like pasta on bread for some reason. That's what's really struggle. It's like when you don't got nothing to eat in your house. Oh, yes. What they used to do the bread syrup. Same with Jesus. I never did it. But you have, I've never done that. The bread. Yo, I remember when I was thinking about this the other day, yo, when I had the microwave, you know, you know, when you first got microwaves back in the day and you would see the microwave and you come home from school. And you know, you didn't know how to cook, but the microwaves say, uh, French toast. 20 minute to some shit like that. Put a toast in there. You put a piece of bread in there, but 30 minutes in the next year, we all break. I want to fucking shit. Don't look like my mom shit. Yo, you know, you know, oh, because you did the. Oh, yeah, you did. I'm proud of it. God damn it. Um, I'm going to underscore. Andre said as blacks, shouldn't we reward whites for good behavior? Like we do dogs and kids. All right, bro, you don't reward people for what they supposed to do. That's funny. And what is good behavior? Not being places. That should be easy. That should be easy for some people didn't do. But it's not for whatever reasons. Yeah. Didn't Jack Carla wasn't he having good behavior? You didn't get rewarded. No. No, okay to stay for my nigga. Jack went on tour. I saw him analysis today. That's cool. Anybody want to see that shit? What did he do? Well, I love Jack. What did he want to see Jack sing, man? What did he do? Yo, has Jack, Jack ain't even didn't know. Jack didn't do nothing else after that New York Times. And if you Jack got low, he said fuck it. You know, else Jack fucked up at stop. I should have never even. No, no, no, no, no, no. You know what else, Jack fucked up. And the Jay, the interview makes me think about it. The Jay, the sit down with GQ, yes, but he sat down with Frazier Thorpe, a young black man. If you're a white artist, don't sit down with the two white guys telling them you got black room. Does New York Times employ non white people? I don't know. Well, my point is if you're going to, if you're going to dive into a black genre, even DBR, you already do rap, but now you're going to do a R&B. Go sit with the black people. Yo, but I'll go sit with, I don't care what black platform you pay. Yo, you know what black whole thing? Go sit with them. I wonder if it was two black people interviewing them. That would look crazy. And he said the same thing. He wouldn't do it. He wouldn't have. No, but it would have been funny. It would have been funny. And then it wouldn't have been funny. That's right, that's right. And then it wouldn't have been this whole like, you know, he shouldn't have went. You, I'm gonna tell you, you fucked up, Jack. And I don't know if you're talking to the people that generation now, but if you were, I feel like drama and lake would have directed you a little bit better, you should have went to the R&B Money Podcast. Ooh, you should have sat with. Tank, you know, Jay Valentine. And if they said to him, they're like, yeah, your music got whatever and he goes, I got black right, and they started laughing. Don't you think that the internet just laughs at it? Yeah, listen, if he would have sat with Tank and Jay Valentine with his rollout, by the fact before the rollout, he should have sat with Tank and Jay Valentine and did a listening with Tank and Jay Valentine on the R&B Money Podcast. Tank and Jay Valentine are the R&B God, right? So even if they co-signed it a little bit, or they're saying, this is cool, but you should have did this better, blah, blah, blah, blah, dude, it makes us receive the music totally different. And if you say that joke about, yo, you got black, they laugh, everybody keeps it moving, but no. So you want to go sit with the white, huh? That's what changed your mind about it. Would that have changed my mind about it? No, yeah. No, my mind hasn't changed about the album, it's trash. But I'm saying-- I'm saying if he did that, it's-- Narrative is important. Yo, Narrative is important. Narrative makes you look at things with different perspectives. So if he sits with the R&B Money Podcast, Tanking Jay Valentine created a different narrative around this album, and if Tanking Jay Valentine just put it out there like, if she does actually I, now my approach to it is different. 'Cause I'm like, all right, Tanking Jay Valentine said it's all right. Let me listen-- Yeah. But if you listen with my neck, I'm like, this shit is trash. And listen, if you don't like the album, you might not like the album, but maybe you would receive that comment in a very different light. Yeah. Oscar B. Savage, Adam says, "The life without anything that associates to sex are a life without women." A life without anything that associates to sex. What does that mean? I have no idea what the fuck Oscar B. Savage on him is saying. A life without anything that associates to sex, that means that you're never gonna have sex, you're never gonna get hit or anything like that. Or a life without women. That's right, you, I guess. I would take a life without anything that associates to sex, and I'll tell you why. But then you don't have sex at all, but they're at least, but they're still women. Yes. 'Cause you hear the thing, Oscar B. Savage, you know? I wouldn't miss the sex 'cause I wouldn't even know what sex is. A life without anything that associates to sex. I don't even know what sex is. I don't even know what I'm missing. So give me my women. Give me the women. You know? Just to sit around, kick it, have conversation with, laugh, joke, that's my life now. So no sex, but there's women, and or what's the other one? No women? Or a life without women, no women. So there's still no sex. No women off. Well, if there's no women, it's just a bunch of guys sitting around, the earth don't even last much longer 'cause we all gonna die, 'cause we can't procreate, and we don't know what sex is. No, no. So you can't procreate. And you know what sex is. You can't procreate. Everybody else can. There's no women. Now, you gotta be somewhere. Oh, bro, you really trying to be progressive, bro. Dude, you need to say it. What are you saying, bro? What the fuck are you trying to tell us right now, shows? What the fuck you mean we can't procreate, but you can, what is just a bunch of men here? I'm heaven sent, bro. (laughing) What the fuck? Just let me be heaven sent, man. What are you trying to say, man? If y'all could pick the color of nails for Alex Media, what the hell would you pick, why? Scrodom. Yeah, I think a nice scrotum brown would be good. Like a brown scrotum, so they just disappear onto it. No, I'm more like a scrotum brown, like a scrotum biracial brown. Ooh. Yeah. So like a light skin. Like j-cold nuts color. That's a good one for you, you don't think so? Yeah. I could color it. I got one. We were talking about fraud. My eating imagining it. So I was saying the color of j-cold. That's almost like a nude. A nude. (laughing) You know what I'm saying? That would be good for you. Why are you thinking about j-cold nuts right now? I wasn't. You just did. You just did that. You did. Should we be able to go, go, go, go, go. Go ahead, go ahead. Taps. Should we be able to tip TSA agents? Yes. Yes. No, 100%. I say no. 100%. Especially right now being a thing I can pay. That's got to be illegal. And then you want to get a bomb on this shit. You tip it. Yeah. Say agent. No, man. He's saying that because the TSA agents aren't getting paid. Yeah. Obviously, but. And you're not allowed to give them any tips, but the reality is they are working for free right now. Yes. But we'll go. Yeah, y'all ain't even, y'all going through the airport not even telling them thank you and shit like that. No, that's not true. We always say thank you. But it's a tricky one because the fear is that then it becomes like the club. Like you get to cut the line. If you slide in 100 dollars, but you still can't because you, you, you still got to put your bag through security and the x-ray and all that shit like that. If you tip them enough, you don't. You think that they're the only people that see what's in that x-ray bag. What do you mean? You think that the person sitting there is the only person that sees in that x-ray bag. I guarantee you at the end of the night, everybody's reviewing certain types of tape. And you're like, how the fuck you got that through? How the fuck you got that through? So here's a question, has there been like a terror attack since since 9/11 like on a flight? No, not in America. They might need a big raise like, have they not been killing it? But they stepped it up. Remember the, the, the, the, I'm saying, but we sure he wasn't as strict as it was before. No, I know, but like they've been doing the job. Like what are we doing right now? Pay these motherfuckers. Like nothing through that. You can't even get a bottle of water that's over his eyes. Respect. Maybe they need a fucking little upgrade. So maybe it's not tips, but whatever that government money that's coming through, like they've done the job. We asked them to do the job. They did it. You know how that could do better now. You know how the x-ray machine is good. You know how you got x-ray machine is good. And when you go to the x-ray machine, you know how you got x-ray machine is good. But I saw a safe, you didn't even think when you fly. That has been raised in hell all year. your own failures, there's a immediate, there's immediate reaction to it. Watching other people fail, it's easier to ignore and be like, that wouldn't happen to me. So I think it like there's more motivation when this shit happens to you, 100%. 'Cause you gotta figure it out. You don't gotta figure it out when someone else is failing. - Yeah, I definitely think you learn more through failure. Like yeah, small people learn from their own mistakes, why people learn from the mistakes of others. I think both of them are very effective, valuable, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, very, ooh, that's even better. Both of them are very valuable, but learning through failure, your own failure, I think is more effective. I'll tell you what else is also more effective. When you see something, it's church's point. When you see somebody do something, think it's, see that it's a mistake, but think it won't happen to you. And then your dumb ass goes and does the same thing. It makes the same mistake. That will teach you two lessons. You're gonna learn from the failure on your own, and you're also gonna be like, okay, next time I'm gonna learn from the mistakes of other people, right? You know, so I think learning through failure is definitely more effective. But then also, I don't feel like I've ever failed. - That's what I'm saying, what's failure to you? - I don't feel like I've ever failed, because going back to what we were discussing earlier, earlier, every single so-called bad thing that happened in my life led to some type of greater good. Every single time, I can think about every single time I got fired for radio. I ended up with a better job in radio. - If you just stop, we're wrapping everything up. - Yeah. - What did I say about the rap battles? You take an L in the rap battle, just keep going. Keep it moving. We're putting everything in a bowl right now. Yes, that's what life is about. You gotta keep going even when you so-called fail. 'Cause what did you learn from the failure? I guarantee you learn something that's gonna help you on your next level. And when I look at every single so-called failure in my life, every single one professionally and personally, they all put me in a better position. - I truly believe that. You don't feel like I think about the times you bombed on stage. - Oh, of course. - 100%. - Yeah, it's immediate motivation. It's like, I gotta get better at this. I gotta change something. If you're not failing, you're really not changing. - I'm trying. - We're trying, like, why would you? Low key. When people tell me shit, like, a comedian's like, I had never bombed. - Get out of here. - You ain't doing it enough then. - Not taking a risk. - You're not taking enough risk. - I never bombed. - Please, man, come on. - Go see the next show. - I know. - You should next big show. I'm gonna show y'all something. I should next big show, I'm gonna buy a hunting ticket. We'll buy the first two roles. Okay, I'm gonna buy the first two roles and fill them with plants, baby. Okay, 'cause Alex needs to know how I feel. Okay, 'cause all it takes is nothing. - It's not fair. - It does not. - It's not a real bomb. - Who cares in this internet? - Turn your camera sideways. But if you're in the building at Andrew's next big show and Alex is going on stage, turn your camera sideways. When you see the first hunt, when you see a hundred people in the first two roles, boy and Alex, before he says a word, just to know. - It was Charlemagne the God. - And this is yours. - And the old word is keep digging your grave, dig a sheep dig in your grave. - And this is the devil. - I know, this is the devil. - It was heaven's death, right? - There's heaven's death. - What the hell is going on? - Would that not bring joy? - Sit. - You're telling me that wouldn't bring joy? - And the park. - We sacrifice Alex, a little ego for some joy? You don't like joy. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you absolutely right? But if you listen to this podcast, you think we're just a couple of idiots, you don't know shit in your right too. It's the brilliant ideas podcast. Thank you for listening. - Peace.