the robotic olympics, treating husbands like toddlers, getting back on the (sex) horse

(upbeat music) - Welcome to Jessus Girls in his page, Katie and Sam. - Quick housekeeping. So we have two big updates that we're gonna start with the fall period. We're gonna switch to launching on Wednesdays. We just wanna do it a little bit earlier in the week. So you have more time to get in your jug. And then we are also gonna change our format a little bit where we are still going to keep like our catch ups, I guess we call them. Do we have a cute name for them? - Yeah, we need a cute name. - Yeah. - We're gonna do like a cute catch up episode. And then the next week we're gonna start doing deep dives. So I think we chat a lot about just like random stuff, but there are a few topics that we wanna like dive into and have like more discussions around 'cause they are very nuanced and interesting. Do you guys want to do that? - Well, I think we're all content creators. Probably most of you have found us online some way or another. And I think one of the things I dislike the most about creating content is there's not a lot of room for nuance and like in-depth conversations. And even on the podcast, we feel some limited on certain topics, but we would talk about that for an hour. But we can't because that's not our format. And so we're creating the new format. So that way for certain topics that are deserving of more time and attention, we can be more thoughtful about and have those deeper dive episodes. So I'm actually really excited for that because I just think, I mean, I could talk about certain topics forever. - Yes, I totally agree. And even though like you're in a podcast format, it's like you said we could take one topic and go really, really deep. Such as I brought you guys little gifts back to school, back to studio. - Oh, no. - She's one of us. - She's one of us. - We are a deep dive on in 'em. - No, well we should because you guys have sent me so much Uno content. - Sorry. - I was at the dollar store the other day, not supposed to. - They're so cute. - They're so cute. - And with Katie getting her ton select to me, you need some games, space up your gate, like a date. And I throw it in your bag. - I'm not. - You're kidding? - Uno, we're not. - How am I gonna put it on him? I'm gonna bring out the Uno deck, you know? - Yeah, I mean, I came to dinner and I was like hey babe. I wanted to spice things up and I would love to play Uno go with you. - Reverse, reverse, reverse, reverse. - We're both fine. - He can calm it. I was like, they're so cute and like tiny and you guys just need them. - I was so thoughtful of you. I just gave her a shirt that said Queen of Farts, so. - Last stop. - Well now I feel like you should eat for him 'cause I'm the only one that didn't do anything. - You brought us puppy chow. - I think we could figure out. - I agree with you. - Yeah, you've all been bringing gifts. - You bring food. - I brought here and made puppy chow. - That was delicious. - Yeah, yeah. - So which one of you sent the, in the group chat, you sent the video about making an Uno room in your house that can't take care of? - Yeah, like a majog room. - Yeah, like a majog room, but making an Uno room, that's my dream. - I mean, but Uno gets competitive depending on who you're playing with. There's house rules, right? There's ways, certain people play for other people. - Are they? - You have a sleepover tonight. Maybe we'll play. - Okay. (laughs) - Well, we're not gonna do a deep dive on Uno, even though that was like a miniature deep dive on Uno. - No, yeah, we're not gonna do a deep dive on Uno, but there's gonna be lots of stuff to talk about. And if you have certain topics that you want us to talk about, - Yes. - Deanna, - Yes. - Because we have things that we're super interested in, but I'm sure there's others that might be on our radar. - Yes. - And then did you say Wednesdays now? - Yes, - Yeah. - Not real-minded. - Did you say no? - Did you say no? - I was too hyper-fixated on giving you my Uno that I feel like I blacked out until I gave you my-- - Yeah, you come off, Sam. I feel like it comes off on the podcast as if she's like not in the know, but she's so organized. - Yeah, I'm very smart. - So-- - I book her. - Yes, but Katie goes, "Where are we staying?" - Yeah. - Well, I was confused with the last one. Because there's always a little confused. One of us is the beauty of three is one person can always be, like, a little out of the loop for like a minute. - Yeah. - And then you can come back into it. - Yeah. - And bring us back in. - But I feel like, so I'm getting my tonsils out as we mentioned. - R-I-P. - Which is so embarrassing, honestly. I don't like telling you. I might have lied, Sam getting-- Is there like a cool surgery I can get? - My friends at home talk about you because they go to the podcast and you said you had streps so many times. And then I was like, "Oh, my friends are getting your tonsils out." And they're like, "Oh, that Katie." And I was like, "Yes, Katie." I feel like I should say, "What's like something more fun?" I don't know, we'll have to workshop that, but-- - My four-year-old's getting them out the day before you. - Yeah, so to add to the embarrassment, me and your four-year-old daughter are going to be healing together, but brutal. - Yeah. - So I'm going to be out for those two weeks, so maybe even more. - Okay, well I hope not, 'cause I have tickets to Harry Styles at Madison Square Garden. - What, when? - You don't have to say anything. You can just go. I'm going September 25th. - That would be so hard not to like scream and say. - Yeah, I love Harry Styles. I love One Direction, Harry Styles. - You think he does One Direction songs? - Okay, you know, so I bought tickets because I thought he would. I, One Direction, I mean, rest and peacefully in pain. I don't, I'm happy. I thought he would maybe bring out the rest of the One Direction members. - I don't think I'll feuding all the time. - So far, it doesn't look like it's going to happen. But it was mostly Zane and Liam feuding, wasn't it? - He was feuding. - Zane left first. He was like the first one to, which, and Harry stayed the whole time. I think he was very, he thought long-term. - Does Zane do anything now? I'm not a One Direction person. - I don't think you're like, who are these people? - I mean, 'cause there was also all that drama with him in The Hades. - I know. - Which was a little messy for me. - Yeah, yeah. - A lot of alleged behavior. - Yeah, I don't know. I don't keep tabs on the One Direction members other than Harry's style. - Yeah, so anyways, so I hope I heal by then because I'm coming up to New York for Harry Styles. So, you know, I'm gonna go. So, I mean, it might be high on pain meds if I see you there. That might make him more comfortable. - Come say hi. - Yeah, fine Katie. - I'm fine Katie, but Harry. - By Rebecca Southing Cocktail. (all laughing) - Oh, goodness, yeah. Well, we're back. - Yeah. - So, I mean, we haven't, how was your page? You just went on a trip with how many kids? - 18 children. - In one house. - 14 adults. - 14 adults. - Out of huge. - In one house. Honestly, it went really well. - Wait, first, where'd you go? - Maine. - We went to York in Maine, which is lovely. We love Maine. And it's only like an hour from home. So, it was like a nice close-by trip. - Yeah. - We, of course, had many spreadsheets. We had like a spreadsheet about like room assignments. We had a spreadsheet about meal assignments. - How do you do-- - You made the spreadsheet. - No, I did it. I have a friend who's much more type A than I am. And she did it. - Oh, what is that mean? - She's just much more, you know. Like, she, well, I think the difference between her and I is I'm type A and she's type A with anxiety, you know? So, she's like tripled, and I'm like, we have the spreadsheet, we're good, and she's like, we're not good. - Oh, that sounds exhausting. - For her, yeah, for sure. - Yeah, but I'm happy for you. There's somebody more type A. - Yeah, yeah, I'm happy for you. - Yeah, like, I'm actually like chill compared. Like, when I go away with this group of mom friends, all of them are on Zolaft except for me, so it's like, okay, I'm like real low-key. But no, it was great. I mean, honestly, what we did was we had to go in as the United Front on like, this is meal time, and we all agreed, like, seven, thirty is bedtime. I don't care if your kids nine. - I love that. - We are all going upstairs. The nine-year-olds don't have to go to bed, but they have to act like they're going to bed. - Got it. - And like, we like, because we're like, we have like four-year-olds who are gonna be like, no, but he's staying awake, and I want to stay awake. - That's really great. I think that probably minimized a lot of drama. - It did, and we were all downstairs about like, 8.30. - I saw Instagram stories, like, all the kids were in bed. I'm like, how? - All the kids were in bed. - That's impressive. - We were also at the beach all day. I mean, they were exhausted. Like, we really like, because 18 kids playing together, it was like a play date for three days. - Yeah. - So they just like played. But that was the key, which was like, we all decided, we want to have time as friends, as us, without the children at night, and so in order to make that happen, we have to be a united front on bed time. So I would recommend that if you ever do a group trip. I know this is hard, because like Dynamics get tricky. Like, we had one friend who was like, my kids don't go to bed at this time. We're like, they don't, I mean, they don't have to do bed. That's like your choice. But like, if we could just pretend. So like, all the other 16 children can go to bed. - Yeah. - That would be fantastic. Now, where they all awake at 6.30 in the morning together? For sure. - Yeah. - Yeah, for sure. - 'Cause once one, here's the petter-patter of the feet. - Oh, and like you know, my children, elephants coming out. And we were on the third floor, the whole, the whole house. - The whole house. - The whole house, where they had a woken. - And pages, kids are up. - Yeah. - Well, there were like kids below us. They were brothers and they were for sure wrestling. And my daughter woke up on a bed, she said, what was that? - And I'm like, that was a child being thrown from a bed, I think. But we're not gonna worry about it. We're just gonna stay in our rooms. - And you were at the beach, right? - We're at the beach. - Yeah, of course. - How'd you do with this? - My favorite place. - Oh, I did fine. I did fine. My kids are bigger now, so they don't touch me as much of the beach. You know, like when they're little and they're climbing all over you at the beach, I don't get that as much. I get a little bit of it, but not, you know. It was good. - Yeah, we also, we did a family beach vacation. But I'm the opposite to you. - You love this. - Yeah, the sand and the beach are my happy place. - Yeah. - So, did I tell you guys what happened when my husband I got locked down the balcony? - No. - Was that during the nap time? - No, it was at night. - Oh my gosh. - Oh my gosh. - So it's our first night. We arrive at, we're staying in a condo on the water. It's like mannequin, it was, yes. Okay, send us a nod text of this. - So it's our first night we got there. We are staying in a condo building directly on the sand and we are staying on the 10th floor. So we're 100 feet up, right? We put all the kids to bed. It's probably around like 7, 7, 30 and my husband's like, "Oh, do you want to sit on the balcony, have a drink, just relax?" And I'm like, "Yeah, sure." So I walk out first. Luckily, I had my phone in my hand. - God. - He walked out right behind me and just closes the door and it locks. We don't have baby monitors. I luckily had my phone and-- - So the kids are asleep. - The kids just put them down. You know how that works and we're in some place new. So it's usually when the kids are asleep in 10 minutes, they start screaming because they're like, "Where am I?" - Yeah. - And so we're on the balcony and I look at my husband and I'm like, "No, the door did not just lock." And he's like, "What the fuck?" And so he starts to try to like jam and open and it's just completely locked. So my immediate reaction is-- - Did you just jump over the picture and scream? - Help! - Do you see that movie that was like going like viral and takes like it's an old movie, or I don't know how old. Very, very bad movie where it's like, I guess the premise is these two women climb to the top of like a cell phone tower 'cause they're like adventure climber people. - Okay. - I don't know if there's a proper term for that. I apologize to the vet. inter-climbing community. But so they climbed to the top of the cell phone tower. And then something happens, maybe there were cables broke or something, they got caught. And they're like a thousand feet up in the air. And they have to survive. And it was this whole, it was on TikTok. - It was what you felt like in that moment. - Yeah, it was the first thing I thought of. - Okay, I was like, I'm lost. (laughing) - I think we'd call the front desk. - You were like, "She looks like an enemy." - So I initially, I was looking around at the other balconies, 'cause I was like, "Is somebody out here? "I will just tell them the code to get into our place, "that they could come open it." And there was nobody around. - Yeah, you see that? - Yeah, so I then, I got my senses about me after the panic set in. We called the front desk, security came up, went through our house and opened it to the cell. - That would have been my first thought. - But yeah, we didn't send it work. - Did the kids were the kids awake or no? - No, they were asleep luckily. Everything was good. But I just was like, honestly, fuck this balcony. - Good thing you didn't put that like double lock on, you know, sometimes I put that like top lock on a hotel door. So like, is somebody open to the gym? - Oh, yeah, they didn't have that, luckily. - Yeah, yeah. - A hotel room by myself. - Yeah. - Absolutely. - But now you should, I don't know, if there's balcony, you should be twice about it. - Or like a fire. - Yeah. - You know, what if I need to save me? The whole balcony situation was so stressful. - I'm sure. - With that kind of, and like the kids' part of them, having young kids. They had chairs just like right up on the edge. And it was just like disastrous thought one after another. - 'Cause you texted us, we left the beach a day early. - Right? - We left the night early. - So it's like, oh, that's what I do. I don't know if maybe Patron's fired me, but our check out was at 10 a.m. And so, my husband was like, why the beds weren't that comfy? The sleep setup was a little bit just like annoying. So he was like, why would we wait and have one more night of shitty sleep? Let's just get the kids in the pajamas and drive home. - So smart. - It was, but I don't, if my kids were all sleeping, it would have been great. My one daughter decided to make it everybody's problem that she didn't want to sleep. So the whole time she was screaming. - So then, they were sleeping, it would have been fine. - Yeah, the baby slept through everything. He was just like, honestly, shut the fuck up. I guess he's probably so used to it hearing the sound, but she faces the back and my four-year-old face is the front. And so they were just staring at each other. She was screaming and I was just like, can you please stop? But, I mean, yeah, it was better, I think than spending one more day. - I think it's, yeah. Because it's like, what am I going to do in the morning? Pack my car and go home. - Yeah. - Like, why not just be at home? - And all night, I would have been sleeping and waking up, being like, oh, we gotta pack all that shit in the morning. Like, there's so much stuff everywhere. It's like, when you have them and young kids, there's just like a bomb went off. So, you should have seen that. I mean, with 18 kids in the house, when we were packing up the day, we were all leaving. I was like, this is actually insane. - We all brought so much extra food because you can't not have enough food. - 'Cause you guys both drove to your beach vacation. - I always drive, yeah. - 'Cause we flew to Jersey for our isn't flying. - That's crazy. How do you even do that? - What flying? - I do a beach vacation. Like, what do you do with beach toys? You don't have beach toys. - We also were renting a beach house. So they have like the wagon and the toys. And we rented this house last year with the family. But our big thing, we had to de-plane with toddlers. The pilot comes on over, we all get situated. We're like the last ones on the plane with our toddlers. Like, we don't need to be there longer than we need to be. And he goes, sorry guys, I've never seen this in 35 years, but we went to turn the AC on and the guys hat got sucked up. And so we don't know how long it's gonna take to get that hat out, might be about three hours. We just got on the plane. Then they're like, oh, nevermind, it might be 25 minutes, but we already put in for a de-plane. So we're gonna need you all to get off the plane, stay close to the gate, and then get back on. - That's my name. - Oh my gosh. - Well, that's, I-- - And then we got stuck on the tarmac on the way home, close to three hours, and it ended up being six hours on the flight. - Yeah, kids. - That's what it is. - That's where traveling is so stressful. Like, I was texting Katie and Sam, the last time we were in New York. I didn't tell Kate this. On my way home, the Amtrak in front of mine hit a person. - Yeah, that's really sad. - And, but they didn't tell us that, right? So they're like, there's a hold on the tracks, and they're like, and it's gonna be a long time. And I was like, so then I'm Googling, and it's like, a person has been hit by a train, and I'm like, oh my gosh, and I'm states away. And they're like, it's gonna take hours, and my husband wasn't home. I had to go home and get the kids. Like, I was like, I don't, so I had to get an uber from Rhode Island, which I think got us the tiniest date in America, and like, take it to mass. It was just like, it's like traveling, and if I had had kids with me, it's just so stressful. - That's what anytime I'm alone, and that shit happens when you see a parent, though I'm like, where are the mothers? Like, who need help? Who need help? Because it's just, especially when you're traveling alone with kids, it's like, whoo, yeah. - I did get a refund though. - That's great. - Well, anyways, we had a great beach vacation. - Yeah, great beach vacation. - You guys, I could talk at negative for a second. - Yeah, sorry. - I'm like, can you just leave me a minute? - I'm later really thinking about it. - So we're back up, 'cause I remember that text. But yeah, no, we had a, we all had a grade. - Oh, yes. - And now we're back, back to school. - All get slipped away in a moment of time. - Honestly, good riddance. - Okay, so I wanna bring it in from the group chat. Because we spent a lot of time talking about TV in the group chat when we weren't together, because we were all watching things, but we were all watching different things. And at different times. We all have collectively watched Sterling. Did you finish Sterling Point? - I, I'm like halfway, so no. - That isn't the last episode was on, but I wasn't watching. - I bawled my eyes out. - Well, it's also, you gave me the warning about the-- - I did, I did. - So I was just like, I, I have different opinions about the show than you guys do, so maybe we shouldn't. So I, I've given the trigger warning to a few friends. So if you are a listener who has not watched the show, don't know the premise, trigger warning, a deceased mother. - Yes, but it's also like, I roll. - I, every single show is a deceased mother. Like we get-- - Yeah, and I get further here and start. - Yeah, it's just like for us with the dead moms, like it's like, come on out. Can we just have one show where the dad's dead? - Like, you know, like when would it always gotta be the mom? - Usually it's cancer, but it's always the mom dying. - Like that and the villain is often a woman. Like the Disney movies are like, the villain's always a woman too. It's like the angry old-- - Mother God, but it's so fucking creepy. - Well, like they're always angry and old and losing their beauty, which makes them angry. So they're like, yeah, it's so crazy. I hadn't thought of that, but I, I had I roll for the dead mom thing too, but I also was like, hey, like I don't know, some people probably watch this and it is hard for them, maybe to watch it with a dead mother, I don't know. But I thought it was good. I was confused because I think it was slightly positioned as a newer off campus, like a similar show. It's much different. - No, it's not. - I thought it was gonna be Romanticihi hahas, and it was like all about paternity tests. - Then I was like, how would you play? - Oh, it was a lot of paternity tests. - Blinds cluck crossover for people to be related. Like it was so unrealistic. - There was too many, and that's why I stopped watching spoiler alert. - The whole, yeah, spoiler is like, the whole like Joe being the father, then you could have removed that from the whole plotline. - The dads were the worst dads. Like, I'm sorry, you knew you were the father of this girl and you just didn't tell her free. Like, 'cause I wanted to be the dad. - Yeah, this is all spoiler alert. - Spoiler alert. - I feel like people watch Serling Point that night. - But I started to, I was like putting away laundry, and I was watching the final two episodes, I think, and the second we found out that the one guy was actually the real dad, I was like, I'm so out of the show. - For me, the thing that really took me out of it, I actually was totally in it. Like, I was totally down for the whole show, except for the main love interest. - The Zero chemistry. - Okay, first of all, those are the baby boys. - The boys look like small children and all the money. - All the money you'll take, so on and where it's like, you know, I think a couple of creators have done it, where it's like when you're watching, you're like, not getting, you know, anything like. - Oh, there's no last part of these little baby boys and they're like, Joe comes on the screen with his gray hair and his tats. - And you're like, swooning. - Oh, yes, Demi, but. - She, on the other hand, gorgeous. - Gorgeous. - Her hair? - Sessed with her. - Well, I said to my husband, I said, her hair is like a second on the call sheet. 'Cause it's like, that hair was flying every episode, she's flipping her hair everywhere and like. - Okay, who's the best character? - One word. - Who's the best character? - I forget all the names at this point. - Honestly, I don't have a best character. - He was funny. - You get it. - Who? - The brother. - Connor, because he's just laughing. - He literally ad-libbed or like, improved all of his lines. I was watching some of it, and I think that's why I liked the production because really quick, quote, off campus is so scripted and like, I don't get me wrong, I liked off campus for many reasons. But it was just so-- - I saw a block. - Did you see about off campus? This is what I wanna tell you. - What? - What, Belmont, kind of Kamali's real? The Kamali's real? - It's really, really? - Philip? - Yeah. - Philip? - I just wanna say, I called the IC. I called the IC a while ago. - I got the IC after watching on Jake Shane's podcast. - It was at, no, after that dance, they had the belly dance. - Yeah, that was the belly dance. - I said no, thank you. - That was my mouth. - Yeah. - I mean, I think, yeah. - I love a man who can dance, but you don't need to put your shirt up. - No, I can't. - Once again, it was just the fact that right when the camera panned to him, he pulled a shirt off. - I brought this up the other day. My husband was like, what's wrong with the name Philip? Which is his father's name? (laughing) It was like, it's a classic. - Nothing is wrong with the name Philip. Honestly, shame was, I loved lip. The character lip. - I didn't watch shame was. - Oh my gosh, yeah, I know. - But Connor's whole scene in the bathtub, where he has the bubbles and he's like, oh, do I want to add a farm fresh egg? That was all improv and he was going with it. I loved that about the show. You could tell when she came in, hung over, and she was like, they were acting like we act in real life, not just like a secret. - It was like, I think that's why I liked it. - It was embarrassing because, so I was watching it, in our bedroom, I would go to bed, in my little troll hole, and put it on. And of course, my husband's working late, never up there. The one time he walks in, what are you doing? - I know, I know, I know, I know, I know. - Matt, get to bed. What time he walks in is when the girl got her period, and they were doing the room around the Rosie with the period. He just walked in, looked at what the fuck are you watching? - If I was honestly, I don't know. I do not know. - Oh, my Matt watched the entire thing with me. - He didn't have time. commentary, like at least when we watched off-campus or even he'd rivalry, he'd like ask questions. I feel like, like, what's in here rivalry, like, right in the beginning, he's like, what the fuck are you watching? And I'm like, so intense. That show, the first episode, really, first and second, really successful, yeah. Which I think they did a good job, I mean, it hooked me, yeah, amazing. But to your point, yeah, like when I watched the love scenes and startling point, I giggled. Like, I didn't think it was, I was hoping that something was going to happen, and she was going to end up with the other guy. Did you know that, what was the other guy's name, not Alice, but everyone? I don't know, I don't know their names either. Did you know that he's British? I don't Ramona. Yeah, Ramona. What a cool name. I wish. Is that a book? We were a little about Ramona? Yeah. Yeah, I think so. The one guy has a British accent, the main guy with the long hair, the piano boy. Yeah, that's what I liked him more than the other guy. And also, whatever, he's been laughable and very emotionally mature. Yeah, I see like that. That's very emotionally mature. Yeah, and I thought it was going to be like her character arc was she turned to him. Because, do we, like, was there, his arms a little crazy? A bow with the guy stealing money? Yeah, well, yeah, he was doing it. Well, the mom knows, like, she's on to him. Remember? He got called out for stealing money. His dad. No, his dad. But the, remember, the mom knows because she was like, how much is it again? I mean, he was like 600. Well, that mom knows. And we don't know where he's mother. Yes. Anyways, piano boy's mom knows. Sterling point, maybe worth a watch. Depending on what you like. I'm going to put a down thumb. You do down. My daughter always does the mid. She's like, meh. Yeah, I'm down. Kaze down. We're both up. Like, it's a mindless watch. My daughter is a magusta. They're learning Spanish. It's just a magusta or no magusta. And then I've been watching Furious, which I mentioned to you guys. What is that? Never heard of it. It is dark. Like, it stresses me out before bed. Don't watch it before bed. It stresses me out. Who is not allowed to watch anything stressful? Who? I just thought it's a go. Yeah. Who will I believe? And I believe as of this week, airing of this episode, the final episode will be out. It's not out yet. So, I don't know the ending. Can you give us a synopsis? Yes. So, it opens up. It's Emmy Rossum. Yeah. She's like one of the leads. And she's an FBI detective. And she's trying to figure out who is murdering these rich, white men. Like, these very rich men. Oh, man. Love that. All in a similar way. And it turns out, like, you learned this very early on that it's this young woman is murdering them all. And you have this instinct of like, she's doing it for a reason. Like, she's targeting. I mean, can we say about time? It's always. Well, you guys are always doing the killing. She's always like a anti-hero, right? Yeah. Yeah, she is. But it's always like, young women that are dying on a running trail. Like, I love that. It's a plot twist. A plot twist. It's very dark, though. It is, I will, it is not lighthearted in any way. Like, it's a very heavy show, but really, really good. So, worth a watch. Okay. I've been watching your friends and neighbors with John Hamm, Olivia Munn. People have been raiding about it. That's really good. It's good. But, Luke and I were trying to find something that we could watch together. He's not going to watch a sterling point. He's not going to watch an off-campus. I don't blame him. I don't want him to watch it with me. But it's, uh, John Hamm, like, this big rich white guy, you know, lives in the richest-- Well, it's a rich white guy. Yeah. It loses his job. Kind of gets like fucked and has to leave this firm. And then he has to pay his child's support and pay all this stuff. And so he ends up stealing and-- Crazy, huh? Yeah. He's a regular, everyday thing. You remember that TV show? What a plot twist. He didn't want to get a job. He just figured, why not steal? Why not steal? Okay, for my child's sake. And, like, he's like, oh, like, they don't realize, like, how much wealth they have. I just came from this. And now I don't have it. And that's-- My question for that, man, is like, what were you doing with your money? Not investing it, not saving it. Yeah. Where do you money go? Yeah. That's how I felt about the book, Strangers. Did we ever talk about that book? About 14 hours. Like, literally four-- Are you-- I thought that was a joke. Are you joking? What up? You, like, I think you did, like, a 10-minute synopsis of it. I think I did. All I was going to say is, like, in that book, when I got divorced, and he had spent all his money on, like, Rolexes and boats and cars, and the mom had spent all her money on their education and their homes. And it's like, if that guy had lost his job, he was like, what do you have? You have a Rolex? Yeah. But you don't have a house for the kids. Yeah. And they kind of talk about how, like, as they got wealthier and wealthier, they were always like-- You want a thing? You want a thing? Yeah, but the jokes. I wonder, like, how many rich people actually aren't rich, but they seem rich. I think there's different versions of the wealth. It's, like, the OC. That was, like, one of the OG plots in the OC. Was it? Remember that? The dad was, like, pretending to be wealthy. And he was, like, sealing people's money that he was managing. He was, like, a new port. You got to keep up. Typical. Yeah. Yeah. That was, like-- Wasn't it Marissa's dad? That was, like, a decade. Oh, my gosh, I know. But what a classic. He just doesn't even remember-- Yeah. So it's-- That's what he was saying. That's what he was saying. The only thing I've been watching still is Big Brother. May I say, he can still hop on the train in season 28. Well, let me try and use the 10 minutes of the pastors. Okay, that's what-- So that was a big abuzz. I'd like to stay in the moment. It's all other social media. Yes. I saw the trailers for the pastors' wife. If everybody's watching it, I think it's number one on Netflix right now. And I, like, was trying to gather what was going on. It seems like this woman already knows that. Oh, I already know that. Is it a Catholic church? No. No, I don't think it's French, right? Anyways, I put it on last night. I watched the first three minutes, and I said, no, thank you. I'm scared. I'm good. I'm proud and creeped out. And I turned it off. Well, so I had followed this case when it happened. Yeah. Because it was all over the place, all over the news. I feel like you're a summary lady today. Can you give us a little summary? Yes, so there's this woman. She's married to a pastor. First off, when you get the background, it's like, okay. Ick, Ick, Ick, Ick. So she was very, very young. Went to the church where he was a pastor. When she was a teenager. She was 14 years old. He was 15 years old in her. It was time in the church, but continue. She ended up marrying someone else. She got married at like 20, and then at some point, she starts having a affair with the pastor. Mind you, again, pastor's 15 years older. They were both separately married. They get divorced. They get together. She's now with him at 23 years old. And he's like 40, right? Like crazy. And so, they're married for 10 years, but then it's all about how he's like, very controlling and all this stuff. And she ends up missing, but she called the police and said, tell my family where I am. Like, I'm going to go, you know, unalive myself somewhere. And, but basically, everybody, the husband has now been charged with like cyber stocking and all these things. And he was like, very coerced. It was just, it's very intense, but it was all over the news. It's very, very sad. But I think the documentary interviews a lot of her friends and family and church members. And she hadn't even been dead, I think, a year and a half. And he was already remarried, which is the theme these days. It seems like, it seems like the theme. Yeah, I mean, all I saw was the clip in which he tells women that they should be having sex with her husband's every day. Yes. Because there's a desire, right? Yeah. Yeah. Like, feeding their desire. And right when I saw that, I was like, oh, fuck this guy. He probably did something bad. I like him. Even if he didn't do it, this is how I always do it. It all started with a church. Like, there's always like a some type of religious leader, like claiming authority. What was the, did you guys watch the TikTok dance cult one? Oh, yeah. He was a church leader, it's always like, they're praying on these people who are very vulnerable and are looking for that community and that like guidance and. Yeah. Scary. It is scary. But yeah, so I haven't watched that one. I probably will, but I feel scared. You know a lot about it. Yeah. But I wouldn't have followed anything. Yeah, the vibe just like creeps me out because I like look at my husband and I'm like, that's so scary. I don't know. It's just so scary. What, that he's a man? No, I mean, yes, honestly. But I just feel like, I don't know. There are all these cases where it's like men doing violent things to their wives. And it's just like, I don't know. Although she accuses us of getting dark, I was just talking about it. I was just talking about my train. Wasn't that you and the group chat that sent the video that was like, don't. Don't kill me. Just divorce me. Don't kill me. Just divorce me. Yeah. Like, just leave. Yeah, no. Yeah, her video was like seriously. Like, I won't even charge your child. Just go. Just go. Go quietly in the night. So let's complicate it. Yeah. Yeah. That's just the problem, maybe, before like social media and technology. And Katie really wants to talk to us about flock cameras. She's brought it up a few times. You guys, I really have so many technology topics I want to talk about. And I don't know. She was also sending us a robot, like, Olympic videos last night. I can't believe it. What the fuck is your home? It was only on my algorithm. The robotic Olympics. I had no idea. Literally. I literally didn't even know that was a thing. Okay. This is a separate topic. I don't even know what we're talking about. Okay. Well, technology, and she's talking about meta, you go girl. There's a lot happening in the technology world that is going to have very large impacts on our lives. And I feel like we're just kind of skirting over it because so much shit's going on in general. Yeah. But, yeah, first of all, the robotic Olympics. I mean, that shit's kind of scary because these robots start lifting. I clicked on Katie's one video. I was just like a robot. And she was like, what are you doing? I was like, what are you doing? A run-ditch in the wall. Follows backward and then broken, haven't lit on fire. Yeah. It's crazy. It's just a stadium full of people watching. It's like, what the fuck? Did you see them racing? Did you see how they run? Oh, my god. It is so fucking terrifying. The way these robots are fucking hell. Faster, they run. Now we're people going to be mad about that too. Like, oh, I have to compete against robots. Or this is robot separate for you. This is a specific robot Olympics. Like I said, second annual. And they, because they build these robots and they have them compete against each other. And first of all, they're huge. And then massive. They're massive. And they do like weightlifting. They do running. They do weightlifting. Oh my gosh. Yeah. You have to watch them. I was, I was tripping everywhere. It was literally, it was such a high and low of like, I was crying, laughing. And then I was immediately facing this existential dread of like, this is so scary. And like, I legend is happening before our eyes. And I'm just like laughing at videos across the world. Like, I'm just like, what's going on? It was just so quick. But yes, you have to watch the videos. They were so, so funny. The way they run, their arms are like flailing. In the air like people are like they look like they're being chased by bees and they're running so fast Like how fast do they run? Are we talking about now? I don't know the mileage, but it was fast Okay, cuz they're I mean they're building them to do these things It's only the second annual okay, I'm sure by the 10th annual, you know I mean by the 10th annual it might be the original Olympics and the human Olympics are subset you never know You never know. Yeah, but yeah, I also want to talk about flock cameras because I've you guys seen flock cameras Yes, it's not funny They do not know I watched one of those like TikTok documentaries were like 10 minutes long part of a longer documentary Yeah of a Rhode Island police officer who like basically was raising the flag about these flock cameras And how like dangerous and scary and how like misuse they could be And how the general public has a right to know that they're in their neighborhoods Yeah, and like you don't know like you're just walking around and they're everywhere No, I have to store like like post and stuff. Okay, and they're just on poles like on the highway on roads I didn't because I was thinking of like to for police officer to give you a ticket or these are different than those ones It's a similar idea to work like yeah when you're in Europe and you're driving on the highway You basically get like a flag of like you get a ticket in the mail because it's like whoa you were yeah No, this is license plate surveillance specifically right? So how this started was the CEO of the company I believe he lived in Atlanta and there were car jackings and Robbery is happening in his neighborhood and he kept calling the police being like these people keep getting their cars Working into and they said we can't do anything because we don't have a license plate So he went home and he built this camera. It was like a shitty camera that basically when a car drove by it would just take a picture of the license plate So that way they could try to solve the robberies and I'm pretty sure it worked and then he kind of expanded to all these HOAs being like hey, you can give you this camera because if your packages are getting stolen or people are lying about guests or whatever Like you can track the license plates and it was like a privatized thing But it has all the sudden like expanded rapidly to be put on highways and for like public use and I think there's over like Hundreds of thousands of them everywhere and it's funny because I had no idea what these were and then I found out about them And so I started paying attention they are everywhere And what you'll see is it'll be like just a pole on the side of the road with like a solar panel on top and like a little camera That's all it is So they kind of like blend in unless you know what you're looking for especially on the highway and if you're not looking for Yeah, they're pulled everywhere like you're not like oh what's Department of Transportation? What is that thing or just like out just driving on by and so they are literally everywhere tracking license plates and Like it's supposed to be I hate even saying this because it sounds like Scooby-Doo It's like for solving crimes, you know, like that's the whole attention behind it, but it's being the data is being sold and Hey, the data is being sold and used for things like there was an example of Couranturance like if somebody is using their dad's car to drive in college and they're there too much They insurance companies are going to contact you and say you need a separate policy like for this instance But there's also I was on my mom's car insurance in California and I like for all months You know, yeah, that's a problem. I got the lower ones and they were like why is your dad always my mom's fault though Yeah, I mean I was a child. Yeah exactly But so like I guess the intention quote-unquote was good to solve crimes But now it's also like they're using it in states where abortion is illegal to track people who are going out of state to Question-legged abortions or there's police officers that are stalking ex-girlfriends or love interests And there's just a very blurry line where it's not being regulated They're kind of moving with like a silicon valley mentality. Yeah, I was like move fast break things and figure it out later and their whole thing is like it's not our like the government Should be the one regulating it. We're just creating a service like that's all we do But anyway, so it's like we're kind of starting to live under this surveillance state and hey not really so many people Don't even know and be it's just kind of happening so quickly that it's yeah between that the robot on the back I always I saw that in that Rhode Island one there was like a woman who they like showed up at her house And they were asking for a warrant or something like that like it was actually wrong like the flock cameras had something wrong But they were like using them and so it's like and she couldn't like get access because it's a private thing It's not like a public so it's just like she had to like submit a file to get the information. It's just very very scary Yeah scary when was the first like flock camera invented someone recently? I was just gonna say yeah it's yeah, it's definitely very very scary And I think that the one that really scared me was when I saw the article is about the like police who were misappropriating like the information and like Stocking women. Yeah, it's terrifying. I guess they're saying they have like auditing going on that will trigger When somebody is searching for something they're not supposed to and it's like yeah sure Sure, just like all the tech, you know, it's like give me a break. Yeah, but and the third day I'll be our technology correspondent. Yeah is that do you guys see like meta settled? Yeah This is their second big one of the year, isn't it? So or is it same case and now it's I think it's the same like series of cases But now they're I think this one is a larger settlement because they're trying to get away from all the other like cases that are So yeah, give our jugs the news So basically meta settled in a case where the case was against them that they are harming teens mental health and it was a trillion dollar case Um, but so they settled for 16 billion, which is like nothing literally a door dash order of the night for them Like such a small amount and but they are committing and I don't know if you saw the posts that they did on Instagram. No So they're committing to adding some guardrails like screen limits or screen time limits for teens of like two hours no filters Um like a bunch of things like that, but they their whole thing is they said well unless all the other tech companies join us Then all the teens are just gonna flock to YouTube and tech talk because they can do these things there So we have to make it so everybody has to do these regulations so that it's fair and that we're actually taking care of the teens So they posted like a we're calling to the other tech companies to join us in this initiative to Make online safer for teens. I think the best way to make online safer for teens is to not have it I mean, honestly, I think it should be legal under a certain age like I think Australia is under 16 I always joke that like if I could keep my kids off social media until they were like 27 I would I think it is so detrimental and like we say this is people who live on the internet like I have a hard time Yeah with social media. I cannot imagine being like insecure at 16 and Experiencing social media the way that kids experience it these days. I personally banned YouTube I don't know when I'm gonna give my kids a phone and if I give them a phone, they're not gonna have social media on it And I had a woman say to me she's like you're gonna stunt them because everybody else is gonna be media literate And I'm like to be honest. I've I'm not a Ipad mom like my kids have had them on airplanes That's pretty much it unless it's like a very specific circumstance and I joked with you guys about my son in his bow and arrow It's like he's so creative and smart and like able to entertain himself and like the my kids I feel like they watch TV for sure, but I'm like I I'm so scared of what technology can do to them that I'm like I don't need to give it to them and not for nothing they get laptops at school. They're not gonna be illiterate when it comes to a computer Like they use it in kindergarten. It's purposefully intuitive so that you don't need to even be like smart to figure it out A lot of these companies like a meta will be like meta for teens and then like all these, you know Content creators are advocating for it and like I get why they people do that and like at great you're putting in guardrails I think the guardrail should be kids are not allowed on it. Yeah, well the scary thing is too I feel like she's gonna make us more depressed. I know. What is wrong with me today? Anymore he ha ha's but So all these tech companies are also lobbying to get AI integrated in school started in the beginning because to them it is Hundreds, you know millions of customers that are rejected from a young age So it's just like I think the reason I want to bring it up is not to be like a doomsday crazy person with my hair fried It's because it's just like as mothers. I think this is really important information For us to know because so much is happening We're like so passively involved just because it's just like happening so quickly. Yeah, that it's like we need to be aware of these conversations and what is happening Not the robot on the pics. I don't know. That is so depressing. I'm going down for the robots. I just like I just fuck with the robot. I don't know. I feel like it's a slippery slope with the robots. It's all I'm saying. Okay But I also saw a video of people using a robot as a cleaner. Did you see that? Look at that. It was in San Francisco. People called it a robot. It's like the Stetsons. I like I don't know But it's like so San Francisco. I do listen to good hang when they meet puller. She had Darcy. What's her name from the five star weekend? That was a great show. By the way, that was a good show. Oh, I need to read it first. I know I didn't even know it was a book. I just watched it. Okay. I should have read it. She was talking about that. Sure. Yeah, she's funny. I love her. She was like a good place Wasn't she a good place? Good place. Broad City, um Darcy. Why don't I know her last name? Her last name is like I know her first name. Oh, yeah, Darcy. Yeah Yeah, no, that was a good show. That's definitely worth a watch. Yeah, but she was talking about a robot cleaning her sister's house And I'm like, oh, that sounds like a great robot. Well, they have the basically the Roomba lawn mowers. I've seen those Those would be great in Florida because it's so hot. It like you Literally get dehydrated. Just cutting your grass. Yeah, it's terrible. Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's hot for you. That's what that's those you use for those you use for robots. Well, I don't need my robots running 200 miles per hour. Do my fucking laundry? 50 pounds. What's more than 50 pounds? You know, like they don't need to have more than that Yeah, you never do powerlifting. Yeah, I mean, you never know I can't even might you might need them to do that. Um, I don't know. It's all very scary. Um, I think the AI in schools in particular is one that I'm like, I know a woman who left her school because they decided to take over like an AI program and she was like, no, no. - Yeah, it's just something like, we just need to keep a monitor on. I feel like it's, I don't know. We're all, we all, hold on to yourself, we're overwhelmed with everything that's going on, like trying to keep track of everything, but it's just like, I think they want that. They want us to be numb and so like, - But what they need to pay attention to, it's like there's only so many things that you can pay attention to. - Yeah, yeah. - And this is a big one. It's a big one to pay attention. - Huge. - And it's very industry-specific. I was talking to a friend who's in marketing and she's like, I said something to her. I was like, oh, you know, there's like all these new tools, right? That like will assess your piece of writing and tell you how much of it was AI generated. So like on a sub-stack or on a LinkedIn or whatever. It's like this was made with AI or whatever. And she's like, I don't even care about that. She's like every single thing in our marketing department is made with AI. You know everything is AI. - You know what I was thinking about this the other day too, because I feel like we have this conversation a lot. We're like a big problem on the left and with liberals is like they eat each other with morality and like who's the more morally supreme liberal. And I feel like something with AI that is happening that kind of reminds me of like recycling. Like you know how with recycling, it's like everybody's so on top of each other for their recycling. - It's a big corporation. - Yeah, of course you ignore the BPs of the world. It's like I kind of feel like that's happening with AI where like people are like pinpointing like, oh my gosh, you used AI to create your grocery list. Like you know, don't do that where it's like literally corporations are building data centers. Every second and like, you know, it's like even my husband's a software engineer, he has to use AI. They tell them it work. It's part of his job description to use AI. Like use AI and they take people off his team because they're like you should be using AI to be more efficient. And I just feel like we have to kind of like point the finger at a larger conversation where it's like, have you seen the tin foil hat conversation about data centers? - No. - And then AI doesn't actually use water. It's just the billionaires are hoarding water for like, if you've watched the show Paradise. - Like basically like a paradise world where they're gonna build bunkers and they're siphoning all the water into their bunkers and they're pretending it's for AI. And then we all fight with each other about AI and water. And really it's just a billionaire bunker. - Oh, and I was like, so is that a conspiracy theory? - When I was married. - I was going to post poems. - But this is why I did not watch Paradise Season 2 'cause I was so into this conspiracy theory that I was like, it's all too real for me. 'Cause it's also like when shows like this happen, I'm like, where did I get deast up from? That show is fantastic. You should 100% watch Season 2. - I almost started it because of you, but then I started five-star weekend 'cause I was like, I need something a little more light and girly, whimsy, but I'm gonna watch it. - That's nice. - Yeah. Imagine setting your makeup. Then forgetting it's even theirs. Meet new grippy setting mist from Maybelline, New York. Gel to mist technology locks in your look for up to 24 hours with flexible all day comfy grip. No tightness, no stickiness, no residue. Just clump, dewy, hydrated skin that still feels like your skin. Try new grippy setting mist from Maybelline, New York. - Maybe it's Maybelline. - Wait, Paige, I saw you had a video go viral recently that was causing some stir. Yeah, I didn't think this was one of those videos where I recorded on a women my car. Like I was going to dinner with my girlfriend and I like saw something and I was like, I'm gonna make a little video about this. And then I decided not to post it. I was like, man, tired, I'm going to dinner. I don't have time to do all the things. I'm not gonna post it. And then this weekend I was like, oh, just toss it up there, might as well. And then I put my phone away. I was with my, you know, when you're with your kids, I put my phone away and I come back and it was like, thousands of comments. I was like, oh, no, no. - No, no, no. - Because that's always how it is. It's like something you post that you like just on a whim. You're like, oh, not a big deal. - Always a whim. - I was telling Katie this before we started recording. I always stand by what I post. So it's like, when I say I stand by, it's just like, I didn't think it was going to be, that was not a video I thought people were going to care about is what I'm saying. So if you were on TikTok or even on, she might be on Instagram too. There's this woman who creates content like a day in the life video, where the cap, like the top title says, get ready with me at 3.30 in the morning to make my husband lunch, so he doesn't have to buy food at the gas station. And she goes in an RV, trailer, and she walks outside in the pitch black, goes into her husband's truck, gets his lunch box, brings it inside, makes him this massive lunch, packs his lunch box. - The lunch is massive. - All this way on some of the comments were funny just about the best part of the video is the comment. - Yeah, the comments on these videos are crazy, but the comment section is what actually made me write the video, like do my video, record my video. So she makes him lunch, she makes the breakfast, and the thing that really sent me over the edge was then she lays out his clothes for him. And in one video, she sunscreened him like a toddler. - And she's just rubbing the lotion all over his body. And I'm like, what is happening here? And the comment section is either full of the people or like what's happening? Why couldn't he bring his lunch box inside? Is he four years old? And that, but then there's like, I'd say like 50% of the comments are like, this is what marriage is supposed to be. This is what a good marriage looks like. This is what it looks like to love your husband. This is what it looks like when he makes the money and you say at home, this is what it is. And I made a video essentially saying, I think it's a little weird, is exactly what I said, when women treat their husbands like their toddlers. Because these are things I do for my small children. I don't even do these for my nine year old, because that'd be weird. It would be weird if I did this for my nine year old. And my comment section is full of women being like, this woman loves her husband and this is how she shows him love. And I get this all the time, one of my most viral videos ever was me saying, I don't do my husband's laundry because laundry isn't love, it's domestically work. And I love my husband in many other ways, but I'm doing his laundry isn't how I show him love. And I brought this whole conversation in my comment section about love languages. And so many people were like, well, acts of service is probably her love language, acts of service. It's like, acts of service is pretty much every single woman's fucking love language because that's how it was designed. That is literally how they designed it because it was a pastor who created this love language, basically dynamic book concept. After counseling couples for 10 years, almost all of these couples who are in struggling marriages. And it's been like, people loved, I loved, I used to love the love languages. I would be like, my love language is acts of service. My husband's is words of affirmation. Like we just need to learn how to communicate. Yeah, and every man's physical touch. Every man's physical touch. And it's like, oh yeah, women just love sweeping. That's exactly it. That's what we fucking love. We love to sweep and men love sex. That's just, that's marriage baby. Swimming and sex, baby. And then it was like what? It's like gifts, acts of service, equality, time, physical touch. I feel like this was really big when like we, 'cause we called us, did you guys get married? Yeah, 2016, 2017. Yeah, right around that. Like, cat a boom, I don't know if that's when it came out, but all of us like being newly married, I feel like this like hit the, I just remember in like the 2014, 2015 area, it was really big. And I remember, I had been to like a string of different therapists and love. And I found this one therapist, Deb and L.A. And, Deb. Literally changed my life. If you were listening to this, you're probably like, you should be, you should be, you should be, you should be. Go back. Go back. If you're not listening to this. But I remember one of my first like sessions with her, I was like, well, I just read the love language book and she was like, what the fuck is what she said to me? She said, throw that fucking book away. She was like, go buy the attachment style book, read it by next session and then we'll have a comment. Yeah. She's like, 'cause it is not rooted in scientific evidence at all. No, it changes. Like, I don't, it's actually funny that you guys are like, oh, women are access to service and men are physical touch. I was physical touch and my husband was access to service. Would you agree with that today? No, because literally nobody fucking touched me. Honestly, I hate to be touched. Like, right now I'm just in an era where I'm literally, like, that does not, I think quality time is probably my quote unquote love language because we don't get any fucking quality time. You get to know what he does. So I'm cursing a lot. I need to turn it down. Okay, yeah. I'm like, run out of it. What's going on? We're gonna be bleepin' her out there. I know. So I say, you can help me this time. But it's like, I think quality time is my quote unquote love language just because my husband and I don't get quality time because that's what it means a lot, right? And you're touched out right now because you're a mom of three. Yeah, I was, you know, I was having this conversation with some girlfriend's the other day. We're doing a match on the night, of course. And one of the girls is trying to conceive. And, you know, we were all, that's like the worst kind of physical touch. And you're actually trying to get pregnant. It's the worst. I just didn't get it wrong. It's like a worst. And I feel like sex is fun, but not when you're trying to have a baby. No, when you're trying to conceive. This is such an important conversation to have because we did not-- We need to do a deep dive on this. Yeah. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. How did you have sex? Trying to get even general. Because she was like, yeah. So she has two young kids. And they are trying to conceive for a third. And immediately when she said that, I was just like, I'm so sorry. And she was like, what do you mean? And I was like, there is nothing worse than trying to conceive when, A, in general, like trying to have sex to conceive. And when you already have children, because what happens is you go to bed time. One of the kids is screaming. One of the kids is sick. You're literally exhausted. And then you walk into the bedroom. And you're like, let's do it. We got to do it. And you're just like, it's the last thing you want to do. And nothing is less sexy than four sex when you are exhausted. And you know, it's like, mom, tell me about the night I was born. It's like, tell me about the night I was conceived. Well, mommy was ovulating. And we were like, daddy, we better do it right now. We had to do it that night. Right now. But yeah, and so we were just like, I'm sorry, that it's really stressful to do that. And she was like, thank you for saying that, because I don't think my husband understands as much. And I just think we had like a very open conversation about how it's like at this stage in our life with the young kids, we really don't love having sex. And like, yes, sometimes we'll get the urge and we'll want to do it. But it's just like, I had somebody DM me and they're like, I'm four months postpartum. How do I get my libido back? And I was like, - Why? - And don't. - 'Cause your four-month postpartum. - I'm like four years postpartum and I think it just came back. - Literally, I'm like, I grow friends. I was like, why are you putting that pressure on yourself? - I will say, I think, like, it's like, what is it? Like, get back on the horse. It's this idea, like, the more you do it, the more you want to do it, but I will say, I think when you have young, young kids, it's like, I was so, I used to tell my husband, I'm at capacity. - Yeah. - I've taken care of too many people. I've done too much for other people. I have nothing. I have nothing left to give the world or you, and I feel badly. I remember saying, like, I feel really badly. I have nothing. I can't. - Well, what's sad too is a lot of my friends were saying, they were saying, you know, I also don't want to have sex right now, but every once in a while, I do it. Just because it's like, I don't want him to cheat on me. I don't want his needs not to be met. And I was never content. - Guys, you got to communicate these things, because it's like, actually, I don't believe it, and you just got to get back on the horse. I mean, to some extent, I guess at the right time, but it's also like, yeah, if you start having sex when you don't want to, that is going to become your innate reaction when sex is presented to you. 'Cause you're gonna be like, I just did it when I wasn't comfortable when I didn't watch it. And that attachment is going to be made, and you're just gonna set yourself up for this snowball of like getting worse and worse. - Yeah. - It would be so proud of you. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah. - No, I hear what you're saying. When I say get back on the horse, what I mean is though, like, I think when you're out of it for a really long time, it can get, be hard to get back into like, integrating it back into your life. And I have a friend who, it's like, they always say, like, you should schedule it. Like, and it is. She's like, it's like two days a week. They have it on the calendar. They both know what's happening. It's at a time where it's convenient. - It's like, I have a friend who does that too. - I have another friend who does it too. She's like Friday morning. - It's like these Mondays. - The kids get dropped off at school. Work hasn't started. We have sex, and that, we're, Friday mornings. - Do you guys remember Rachel Hollis? Girl, wash her face, of course you do. - Girl, wash her face. - But they did 60 September, and they had sex every day. This was her husband here since past, but they divorced. But they would like go on live and talk about sex every day. - Well, they divorced. - And then he died, so yeah, I was sad. - What an episode we're having. - I just think of her because I just remember being like, should I do that? - No, because it was back when I read that book and thought. - Well, when I saw that video that I made commentary on, it made me think about all of these expectations we have of women, even going back to that documentary. Like, you have sex with your husband. But it's like, all of these expectations we place in women, I think also we're all watching like the Lindsey Clancy of it all, and it's like the critique of who she was as a mother. And like, not what happened with the kids, like, and all of that, but like, like, oh, she was doing baby-led weaning and she was controlling and all these things. But it's like, they're closing argument. She said something like, would a depressed mother be watching the kids while Patrick was at brunch? - And when she said that, we need to pause on this, because I think we had talked about, yes, or one of our very upcoming deep dives is going to be on post-partum mental health, kind of specifically, like, we will touch on. - We'll touch on it. We're not lawyers, we will not be. - Yeah. - So, I think we should, like, put a pause on that, because I think next week our deep dive is going to be on post-partum mental health, because I think the conversation you're about to start. - Which also is a trigger warning. - Yes. - I mean, post-partum mental health. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - We'll have lots of trigger warnings on that. - Before we start. - All right, well, I'm glad I want you to keep going, but we have a lot of, we have a lot to talk about what we do have to go. - And peace. (laughing) - And we will put a pin in it. - And sorry for being so depressing this episode. Yeah, but sometimes you just got to let it fly. - I mean, if you know what, but we're all smart women, so it's also, I think that maybe we should stop that. I feel like whenever we talk about a serious topic, we're like, oh, was that depressing? Or was that not fun enough? But it's like, no, we're smart women, we can handle it. And we're all like, Katie, I think there's the only one who's saying it's depressing. (laughing) - Yeah, you're right. - You're right, you're right. - This is hard, I'm like, it ain't girl and don't apologize for cursing, let it be them. - Good see you back. - All right, dad, she's doing so good. She's doing so good, dad. - Goodbye. - All right, bye. - Thank you so much for listening to The Justice Girls podcast. We are so grateful that you chose to spend time with us today. If you love this episode, be sure to follow, like, subscribe, wherever you listen to podcasts, and don't forget to rate and review as well. We would appreciate it so, so much. Coming out with us on Instagram at the Just Us Girls Pod, and you can also find us on Substack at thejustusgirlspod.substack.com, where we share even more from each episode, little behind the scenes and all the good stuff you don't want to miss. We can't wait to chat with you next week, bye.