The Revivalist: "We Have Confused Love With Silence" | Philip Okiki Akinwande

Y'est un des signes que nous avons été éliminés à l'interno. Ce n'est pas juste que nous avons été éliminés à l'abandon. Je suis en train de la vidéo et je suis en train de la vidéo. Je suis en train de la vidéo et je suis en train de la vidéo et je suis en train de la vidéo. "Depromance isn't anywhere different. In the 4 years of doing this, I've had the privilege of meeting certain people that God is using to shape lives and to really change the ungentrified slope in this race that we all are running." And one of them is my guest today. And I'm pretty sure you know him if you do not visit the best chance an opportunity to meet with him even though it's virtually but he's a phenomenal man of God. He's an evangelist. One more of a revival is actually he is an amazing father and amazing husband. I met with his wife as well. They are beautiful family and these are people that you definitely would love not just when you get to you know not just seeing them from a distance but even when you get to meet them or close. His name is none other than Pastor Philip Oki-ki. I keep on saying welcome sir. Thank you so much for having me. It's good to be here. Indeed. I'm pretty glad you know it's a mighty and huge one to have you. Thank you for making our time in your extremely busy obviously busy schedule to you know make this possible. Because of time I've jumped straight into it. Are you ready? Yep. All right so you are the convener of you know and the host of Adelaum Camp. So how long have you been doing for us sir? Adelaum Camp is a loading for funny thing is I'm not becoming a know-how. Oh dear Lord. Adelaum is a loading since this 26. Yes it is. I said 22 and 2. 2 minus 6 so 4 yes. Yes. There about. I said I'm going to go right now ma. 22 and 22. Yeah. Oh that's amazing. That's amazing. So you're someone who hosts meetings who purchase the word and the word revival is like this central of everything that is the treaty. Yeah. I mean you talk about you know raising the militia and Kingdom take over. I think the last day we met I think the shirt you had on was you know Kingdom militia. So it's like everything is revival okay in that sense. I mean it's the center of everything that you do. So my very first question now is to you or for you what does revival mean what is the revival? Okay I would explain right by that in the use of God's feelings in generation that draws people towards God. It's more like a compelling force live on religious over people and then whether they understand what's going on or not they are drawn to God in prayers in worship or in worship and in service to God. Many times Jewish people just start praying and then suddenly they desire to pray wells of the community and what's not and that's it from there from there. From the to Spark it becomes another language. Yes. That's that's a free answer. Yeah. You know what you said now as you said in your mind just went back to the John Gellick story how he came to South Africa. Yeah. Yeah. And the mighty things that God did through him in South Africa. Yeah. Yeah. Now you know you know I was watching a clip one time I think like two years ago it was the clip of Apostolus he was talking about how he came to your particular place in town and he had a program there and he was going through there one other time and he just supposed to do everything and he said he sent in the spirit non-paraphrasing. No no no no for what. He said in the spirit that they said he wondered heavily and it was it's concerned that there was there was no mark around there that anything ever passed through yet that there is no that there's no signal or sign or symbol as though something might happen in this environment even though it's an environment where might be things that happen in the past. So my question to you is from the response that you gave in our sir how do you measure then because we are I feel like this is one of the most I might be wrong but I dare say one of the most revived generations especially in Nigeria where people I mean by revived I mean all I should say revival driven generation where people are driven am I disagree? people go okay well why I said that is this is like you see young people now all of the prayers points is the same so that's why I mean I don't think there's any generation ever in Nigeria where both older and younger praying the same thing but I said it's when we were praying for Nigeria from before something like I think I think they'd be okay you need to tell us then yeah for example during the days of Apostolus I was about 26 yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes also in six years we changed from four to eight you can see the color 24 and then the level in 90 30 broadcasts when 26 years was a young man mostly as a poor for the young people yeah what are the people when that's your mission so it's possible like that I said I could disagree yeah I think I'm sorry I think I understand you know what you're saying so I get a point yeah I get a point to yeah so let's now respecting you know Apostol I evolved a lot and everything up and before yes so now in this generation I should say it's one of one of one yeah that's that that's the better yeah yeah one of the most revival driven generation now my question now is how do we really measure it how do we like what's the metric of measure how do we know revival is really happening if everybody's praying for revival's all over remember us again how do we know the load is really a state to answer our prayers if we're always and all you know if we're all and always asking for the same thing I'm like I'm just I get a question why do you take me back to the conventional definition of what the revival is and take me back to the conventional definition of what the revival is and when you speak about revival is bringing back to life what was one time in life and that debt or almost debt which means to revive yeah so if would agree if would because to develop many persons mean many things but to reach a compromise in this in an industry or question I'd see that when my my own metric system of measuring whether or not to revival as a broken out in a generation is not just that we all pray it boils down to our willingness to be on that governmental court okay say it again say it again I love it okay it's not a willingness that I want to say not just okay see me I speak by spiritual and I don't get to go back great okay I don't do it say something about isn't it it's not just about what we pray is not just about we pray in as a generation but our willingness to be on that God's government so that so that for me when we see widespread in this generation that a young person someone who doesn't are subject to God's government and are willing to run by God's terms and condition and not what pleases them because we have a lot of Christians now like and we have a lot of prayer moves going on so long when we're putting nice those prayer moves one of the things would see that people spend time in prayers because of their need and all of their religious activity turns towards them rather than trying to understand that the wisdom I was brought into this space of reference so that's it that's that's a big I love that line like it's definitely going to be a younger line so you know this I want you to say really it's been like my heart's desire that it would not just be surplus prayer conventions we're not just be everybody everywhere just trying to pray but like you said praying for their own needs a plan out of these selfishness and the losses of their heart and praying out of it and after it but then everybody coming on earth the government of God where we know that our principle is him our end point is him as well we start from his will we are and you know this will be end that's very you know brilliant question now coming to the church because all of this now is about the church is the church is not just individuals now um it is church currently now from your own perspective what's one thing that you think is being talked about more actually talked about less And it was the other thing that you think is been talked about less than you talked about more Yeah, please me in tights, please I love it. I'm going to We will wait. I wish I can escape this You want to Can I pass? In my change the you so that no if I am I know to stop Okay, okay, no, no, I just don't go Once that is spoken about more that should be spoken of less and I don't see less But our attention you spoke from scriptural lens from the viewer script or not Now you is the IZ idea of is our opinion on Are you as you say prayer? No, no, no, something like that. Well, is our is our opinion on love like so any person is in error and Correction is we brought to him people who have that that we don't speak at all What are the correct in law? It began for correct less correct in law then to the point today we keep quiet even when something Foundation of blocks have been distorted so I may young man I can't talk much Because the body of Christ is in this car union of both young and old persons According to Joel Joel said The army would not break the hour Yes, so I would know to say things that would look like I am over stepping some starting You know sense what I would just say is we have a stretch the emphasis of love in the body of Christ and then It's normal love politics You heard the efforts So is this just such politics we are playing so we found that everybody bought our favorites And in my training our strength to believe that it puts off the gospel is out onto a higher moral standard So a picture of the gospel is not just out to is not just out of the country by What is right and what is wrong? I don't need to according to society general Christian Preacher should be held accountable also by the moral standard of the day Which is to say beyond this crypto world those the moral standard of the DC or in the sense that it was put I was writing to Timothy and put to Timothy was was telling Timothy about the criteria to be a minister and poor mention that he must have a good Replay sure yeah with outside us we did and without So it fits up most of a good moral standard We are not arguing whether or not we have liberty in Christ to do something to us For example, okay But then in well we begin to speak about liberty in Christ and we begin to explore liberty in Christ It's my betray the moral standard of the day which will affect certain persons from coming into the face Yes And now do I have to even furthermore explain this so it's just so when people betray the moral standard of the day And we are trying to even bring perspective to the country We preach is like we are bringing that so when people correct the quality attack Yes, we bring scripture perspective the quality touch are yeah, that's also that Wow, this is it's a very brilliant submission. I have a mind to the example you Refelt restraints in a completely understanding because I thought the same thing. I felt like I mean one of our points can Can submissions be received in love and not be consistently seen Attacks on your identity as a minister of God or you know, whatever it is that you are and that you do and I think say it is It's something that if we're not careful if we're not careful The younger ministers that are up on the coming would see the same thing would tell the same line And become unreachable in the election as you know and if we're not careful We're just and I say this the very very CCC's books. Every of the CCC's books the book of correction So much so that it was a small translating to tip what I think spoke about I don't know how to express that's brief. Yeah, it's giving for Medification education instruction So according to that script to the Bible is 60% for correction Education instruction we prove Is it was the in my opinion is just different architect for correction? Yeah Yeah, I just yes yes, that's a qualified yes, so those different actors for correction but I'm being honest Well, it's a very brilliant submission. Thank you very much for for that you know because when we continue to As we continue to grow in I mean, I don't think we're the right word. I think I should say as that continues to help his church He especially in Nigeria, which is our core you know front There's so many things like you have rightly highlighted sir that would need we would need to look into because So he doesn't So we don't keep I don't know the picture having mind is a house that is Okay, let me let let me see if vision I had to see me. Okay This was For least six years ago. I don't know can I can I share sure sure sure so in this vision I was in a house And in this house or else we're just like it was like the like a house a classroom kind of And as we actually was going on in there I looked through the window first. I was standing by the window and I looked Through the window and looked down and I looked down though they drive for any taxi It was trying to What we call reverse was trying to reverse and for some reason the entire house was standing on a pole It's weird vision the entire house was standing on a pole and this driver was trying to reverse and he went boom hits the pole So I feared this house is about to collapse So I ran and came out of the house. Well, you were as a good outside. He felt like he was like his take is as I got outside I saw Like from the outside it was like a normal story building people were still entering into it. Whoa So from up the house is collapsing from down looks perfect And what you said now just highlights the current I don't want to say I'm trying to look for the Very appropriate word now for to describe this but it just describes the current let me say condition Or pretty comment now that we have been faced with with certain things They are sitting theologies or doctrines of people I won't enter into that they don't know that the foundation is all just faulty It is falling and I just I just hope that God will continue to breathe more. So I don't say much more Now let me ask you one question. I know that I feel like you already answered is but I was they ask There are many revivals right now. Revival mittens conferences and all this things But why do you think in your opinion now? Why do you think you are much revival mittens or very Few compared to the number of vermitters are very few revived hearts More trivial mittens fewer revival revive hearts Questions This conversation alone we ask the hard ones well. I'd say I don't like No, these are always a word question. I like this one because I'm easily deemed controversial So more opinions are always At very answer it's in general opinion if our answer are questions Let's have it I would say this one we have a lot of revival mittens and let's revive that so that the problem begins from the many hosts Hmm, they are not revived this So people put up mittens for glory six like for their names six People put up mittens because they what is doing something So everybody just find everybody's trying to build a name for themselves in this generation. So I like with often say every different dish on this distorted There's lots of computer that it so it begins from the use so I was trained and I saw this creature That if I'm teaching B But what is a matter is it is a I then with the what the people of teaching will be called is it? Who you are so why so Whatever I'm doing with beyond what you're saying what we are saying So people put up mittens to this is just it we know for the persons puts no mittens they are not really very comfortable and I'm sorry this is not like that No, I hope you look at yourself catch yourself So I think I think I want to skip that Okay, let's go away from that now let's touch on a topic I pretty sure you would love So years ago I think was a year ago actually I stumbled on a moment At one of the major Adelam camp mittens You had a moment where you paused so honor God's area. at least, if you're not a scientist. And to ask you, what did you see in him? Or do you move you to do that? I know you love to say this. I think this is the most exciting. So, I'm also always not just a Twitter to me. Like I said, it's more like my. what I'm not really is the. Ibu word for guiding light. It's more like. so when I look up to a new platform. for ministry and destiny. It has influenced my life in so many ways. So, for me, I was learning this. Is it me to a D? When you speak about ministry? Why did that? Because by my experience, there were times in my life. where I was being drawn away by false doctrine. These were quite earlier times. Most of these times, I was on campus. I frankly, I didn't like it. That's all. Oh, yes, I didn't like it. Wow, I didn't like it because I was laughing. It was weird. I didn't like it. Because it was kicking against Ritaz that I know. This was well-known. So, it was kicking against. it was kicking against Ritaz that I know. And apparently. That was my same English. I actually put away my displeasure. I actually tried to listen to what I see. That was the big platform. And was I displeased by some offices or say, yes? Because some of these things, it was clearly within. I was even practicing. No, no. You know, I had to put away my displeasure. And is this. Is this kicking script or speaking this opinion? The United States said, "Okay." "Okay." This is scripture. "Okay." "Okay." And if you come from there, I started following the acting. It was one conference I went for. The colleagues' convergence is hosted by RCLegos. He spoke about practice. That was. making with us at that time. This. I'm speaking about it. It's like. some 90s ago. So. That is what I was in. Yes. He called them. extra-biblical activities. So he first changed to me, you know. These teachings about translocation by location. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Special projections. Yes. I start projections on work. Time, numbers, symbols, codes, and work. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So I was really fond of those things. Before then, number four was aligning my life. No, four, four, four, four. Yeah. So. Yeah. There was a way during teaching when. So. There was a pre-time. There was. So apparently. As a. As a datama, I was getting to love him. Oh. But there was another pre-time. Love also. Mm-hmm. There was. Into that. Yes. So it was. The preacher that was preaching these things. Apparently, both of them were experienced at that time. Oh. I would not say that. I would not say that much. So both of them were friends at that time. This way, the preacher said things that. They said. No. He said. There was one time where the preacher and I said. at the time he was left with, number 13 was aligning. He said it was struggling from. Luke Nigeria to South Africa. South Africa on the map is latitude-creating or something like that. It's just normal. It's normal. But that's it. Like. Like more. Well. I'm a pro-fet. I do not have to mix this with it now. Yeah. But then, there was a way to mix it out of it. You know. and not just science, school and what not. And then. In this meeting, the question was. The question was asked. The question I was asked is. What. Because. During the course of the meeting, the criteria session for question and answer. So, some of the questions. What is the opinion about. not science and course? Hmm. So apparently, I personally was not. want to ask questions. todayously, it was one. of the pastors. That's pastor Victor Aiku. Now we're going to. to Aiku. So, the Victor Aiku wanted to answer. a question I've seen. Let him answer. Then he. coteed the image after. 10? Yes. The image of 10, I think, was. 2. It's 2. Wow. It's 2. The matter is. He said. um. do not speak the science of the animal. Oh. Because. That's what he eat. The idol worshipers. He do. Hmm. Ah! And then. illash, that's the criteria. Was that. Was that Andreas? Yes. I was the. Yes, I was hungry. My sister was with me. She loved that. Me! She. She thought that was. what was that? What was that? She loved that. Me! So, when we're going. She still was still laughing at me. But then I went back up to check her about it. Hmm. I thought that was it. I thought that was it, okay? Okay. Okay. And then. So, I. I believe that is true. That. Why are we bringing our sickings. alignment of the moon? Hmm. It's not. No, no. I don't know. I don't want to sound very spooky. Yeah. Those things. we are happening. Hmm. I mean, it's not a dupe. Those things we are happening. That's the. We would go down the circle to pray. And one of the signs for us that. we are eating a lot of vegetables that. this is a night, it's an open April. That's the moon. We shift to the center of where we pray. It does happen. Hmm. I'm not joking. Hmm. This is what I have experienced. So, it was a big deal for me to drop. some of those things when I quit. We were seeing these things happen. Hmm. So, for myself, no matter what it was, I. aligned like. four, four, four, months of April. Like, it was a month of April. I discovered that I was living with no matter what. Four. Four, four, four. So, it's like that, four. Hmm. No, guys. Like it. So, it was a big deal for me. I'm like. So, that was part of what. finishing my anger and what. And then, there was. my time. but after that, I thought about it and I said. "Ah, this thing looks like. sauce-free, like. astrology again." Like, it's like, "It's true." And it was on ten minutes. It came from a conference in the boomer for. See, I know post-olic invention. The boomer for the three evening. Hmm. I don't know very good. Actually, I know very good. Jesus, the energy we've been meeting with something is. it's four. We defraim of their post-olic office. Hmm. I never forget that message. Hmm. My friends, we listened and listened and listened. That message was the duplicate office. We said, "Not again, not whatever." So, all these things were the things that we're finishing. in our art and love for him. And apparently, as God will make it. tact at my part towards. his umbrella. So, I'm submitted. and that post-olarm. not directly. I'm submitted to. appositional art to see. we see with the sound to our post-olarm. and so, it's like. it's more like a new viral covering. And the person that's present with it. that's basically because. chive, do not, yes, chip, do not. So, it's more like a new viral covering. Hmm. Even to myself. Hmm. A post-wacked, like a direct variable. Yes. And so. we have that connection, I know. But why I stopped. to salute him in that conference. in that company here. was that. it was a hit. That's. the online. that sets me. on peace. for what I'm doing today. It's this voice. Hmm. So, I think. it's right that I. pings on the tissue on the stream. Yeah. So, that was I did that. and it was. it took. I took it as one of the creators. on also my life. to celebrate him before that crowd. And after that, he met an I sense the videos. Which is the same. Everybody's dying. Yeah. Enough was for me. Only did it was like this. (Laughter) You really did like this? I love this. Goodness. I love him. I love him so much. Ah. My life. I love him so much. It's my life. Just my work. Sorry, it was of course when the. that video came out like. if you cannot pray 10 hours. Oh, well, that was first time. Yeah, for three. three 10 hours already, that time. Yeah. For the four. I mean, I somehow. most of my life. Even we're talking just before we came here. About three days of charging car. you know, now we're here. Some things that happen. I'm like. My life is like I live on that rock. Yeah. So it was not until 2020 that I can forget. Oh. Yeah, the video went. and it was just, you know, you. you came here via me and my neighborhood was laughing. I was just. to be honest, my first time I got like. killingly by. okay. And then. you know, when the life's touching some points. It was just like. it was just this call that you would detail now as it's doing, right? Wow. It's not my decision now. Wow. It was true. That happened. They don't need to tell anything. Yeah. I was in a meeting and I said that. a problem began when we started sharing our secretions. Yeah. Yes. Yes. But then it was pretty good intent. Yeah. Share that consecretions so that people stop asking. how did you become like this? Yeah. So we started sharing our secretions. So it seemed too early. Yeah. for the other people's business to be. so. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. They. I don't know. I don't think they guessed it. They guessed it. They painted it black and new. Yeah. And the. The picture is as an extreme. Yeah. Then. whether they like it or not. Mm-hmm. What works works. That's what makes us the better myself. Mm-hmm. That's what. I would say that. Mm-hmm. So that's it. That's. I mean, it's brilliant. I mean. Now, once the next. then we first ask. this. once the next. I've long, long. competition is. about. in a month. and. twice. Okay. Sorry. for ingress. because we don't know when this will work. So that's like April. Yes. So it's April 16, you know, 16. OK. Now let me ask you this question. When you stand before a crowd, especially at previous Adelaide Midson, when you stand before the crowd. And he stand there. Even when you know, even when one is high in the spirit, it's also that question. It's like, oh, you remember that? You remember when you come from it? Yeah. Yeah. The question is, just stand before that crowd. All people, young people, people hungry and thirsty. I want to show you a video where you're talking about people who are-- I think you were-- was it like you were tired? And people just do-- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just see a video. And the question I have now is, do you ever-- now this is the humanity of-- Yeah, sure, sure, sure, sure. Do you ever feel afraid, of course, more? OK. So at Adelaide, like this, I'll start with a relaxed solution. So if you throw a frog into boiling water in jumpsuits, what if you put it from inside? In what? You put water in, and you put it on fire. It will stay there till it cooks with it. Because he adjusts as it is. As it is, that's just-- So that was it for me. It didn't start. If it's way that the face we are currently in our camp meeting was a certain brick, it would have come to me probably, even to make me proud, probably to make me feel like, oh, also Christ, I don't know how to prove it like that. Let me just ship like that. Like I said, this world-run camp in the start of 2020-- 2020, 2020, 2020. As I think, we are gathering 50 persons. So about then, we are doing three camps in the air. So we did three camps in the year 2025. So we did two. So the growth was step by step. Step by step. It wasn't that expensive. Yes, that was where I'm driving. We're in two way, we are now. So whatever we are experiencing now, it's not alien. I'm not alien to it. I don't feel anything about it. It's a route, I don't feel like I've accomplished anything though. I just said to myself, if you can get said that, it's God's plan to take us farther. If you can get here at this point, God wants to take us farther. So we started at 50, then we grew to about 200 in the camp meeting. Then we grew to about 1,000 in the camp meeting. Then from 1,000, we started watching 1,5, 2K and get a box. That's brilliant. All right. Now I ask you this question. Now, of course, you will see-- I mean, it's a Philippe arrival. Philippe's man of God, the militia. That's a lot of tongue like that. You're toy, you're the right ass. You will see that. I don't know if it's that my memory is just very good with categorizing or filing things. But as it was like, video, I saw where you were managed in somewhere. I believe it was a university hall, probably in Lagos. And you were like, I remember you say something like, you know your role was-- I got limited. That's right. People see all that. People see you in that sense. But one one is watching. Who is Philippe? Ah. I mean, I saw a bit of it. I don't know. It is fun. But then-- no, I want you to answer it. It's a very tough question. I'm so pissed in my wondering, why do I say it's a tough question? I'm more sophisticated. That's the truth. There are many sides to me. So this person I love in now, I could be prophetic so then. Yeah. I'm just mean. So it depends on what side you are asking. That who am I asking about the minister-- I'm just asking about the UDP to me who, like, if you follow, are you? OK. So I mean, I'm a very, very interested person, actually. A very, very interested person, but I'm a thought person. So I'm pretty like that. I'm interested in a thought person, one thing that stands out for me is-- I said that I want to be very, very good at it. So when I set up the I want to follow God, I must be at the proper I game. I must be very good. As when I mean very good, I mean submitted to God. If what requires is long hours of preamble, I'm willing to give it to you. If what requires is at fasting, you know? Like I'm treating something that you know about. Because fast. If what requires is at fasting, I'm willing to give it to you. Anything. So that's how I'm addicted to-- [LAUGHTER] Excel in a whatever I do is an addiction. My addicted to Excel in a whatever I do. So that side of me is what feels every year of my life. That's why even we talking about FIFA. I'm saying I'm so good. He said, because I believe it can beat me up. I beat you up. That's me. I'm so good. Like I'm so good. And I'm even saying that. Big and big. What at best am I really fast-gave? What maybe second? First answer. [LAUGHTER] 25. [LAUGHTER] So you mean like currently now, besides for myself, we've not played before. I'm not really a FIFA guy anyway. But besides for myself in this room now, you beat everybody. Yes, I beat everybody this way. I beat you up. I beat you up. I beat you up. Or today I beat you up. What would you be? You have to. You play 124. But that was if you won. OK. What did I beat you? So it's good to do like, it's one of the best I've seen around. Not because he hangs around me very, very, very, very, very, but it's just that-- Your pension for excellence drives me everything. I think I don't know if that's a positive word to use. It's an addiction. I have an addiction to-- Excel, every day at any time, to go see two believers. To be the best. To be the best I need to do. So if you think it's in every year of my life, it feels in every year of my life. So in my opinion, if they are young ministers in this generation, whatever it is, that they are going to court, they've got these exotics and they are on millions of do it. So I have a strange discourse on my do it. So it's a-- I don't want to be at the bottom of any way I have-- any game I am. I don't want to be at the bottom. So I try to pitch myself to-- So this affects my spiritual life also. So that's-- I think that's the most generic quality of quality for me. So that's it. I mean, that already says more than enough. Honestly, it says more than enough. Sometimes I could be lacking in necessary resources, necessary opportunities to be the best I want to do. But it's very too far, I don't give my best. Because I give everything. I will ask you, rapid fire. Not rapid fire questions. That's very fast. Can you swear? So I know-- Wait, wait, wait, wait, from Lagos. No, from Musetambé Kutwa. Oh, wow. Back on the street. You can swear. That's one of the things that is-- That's what I would be. Really? I would be pulling my house. OK, cut back on the house. [LAUGHTER] That's great. Wow. I don't know. I don't know. I just kind of imagine you swear. I feel like-- I just-- [LAUGHTER] OK. Oh, so I think the best swear-- Is it Michael Phelps? Yeah, Michael Phelps is a snowman. You know, he's super honed. [LAUGHTER] Michael Phelps is super-man. I think that's cool. That's cool. So you swear? Yeah. Are you-- which do you prefer? Table tennis or bad medicine? Never play bad medicine in my life. So Musetambé is a yellow sport. I don't know it, too. It's still-- So you love the business? Yes, I stick with tennis wear when I was in Purdue in school. I think I saw in video, it was only a bit you. But let's not go into-- No, no, no. No, let's not go into it. It's only-- It only puts that video where I won. I'm beating through. OK, so OK. Is this like-- It's past tense. You show people past tense, you won't have to see. I won him also, but it only played the-- You would see the video. It should-- It's in the first game, but-- I'm beating. OK, OK. Now, as I thought that, can you cook or do you love to cook? No, no, you don't love to cook. I don't love to cook. But can you cook? I can't. I used to not cook. I just am. No, no, no. I used to not cook almost every day in every corner. You do the eternal incident? Yes, actually, we are first siblings in my house, and you'll listen. My mom has a discipline where every of our children wants to know how to go to the market and do the cooking. So there's a certain stage in the family. I was just saying some days, it's a good-- there's a certain stage in the family where you are. Forgive my choice, or for the way I was boiled. You have to ask your-- Yes. Yeah, I don't want to be in all the chores. My order started going to the office then I was the next. So I was going to the market. So it started with-- she took him to the market teaching me by this party. She's like, well, she stopped going to the market with me. So if you go to the market to do the cooking, wow. So I knew I had to cook. I used to not cook every day. Wow. So your wife and her brother-- She can't cook, of course. I know. Tenkahasun темnesu noseshe wénija? Hannasik пропann emuskii o continuosnin Papaghan uЁlід Č demNnaija? Eise Wh BBC tCu po beee Te og Jb Bargi hei fineo he dduten pemik haudatatFineo rayaja Ya. Fajor. Fajor, she was a student of Kwasu, as we speak and speak and speak. I developed body and core campus. So she was telling me that the future go to the arena campus there was no community so I developed body and core, just from the conversation. And along the line, we went into the lockdown. So we lived in the same area. So if we joined our prayer group, myself and some of our friends, she joined our prayer so we were praying every evening, every evening. So one of those days, my wife is a friend. So my wife came to visit her, so she told my wife to come for prayers. Wow. No, no. So, eh, let your wife, let your friend, connect your friend. No, you know what I mean? So she took her prayer and there. I think it's it. I think the first time I've been with her is to you. Yes. Yes. So my wife came for the prayer. We were with prayers after the prayer. And then normally after prayer, so we were coming for the first time, she was the first to come. So me and some of our friends that we were more like, in persons sharing the prayer home, we spoke to them. I spoke to her. And I asked her, I asked her a few talk to her questions, do you believe this funny dog? She said, no, no, no, no. Then I asked her, she listens to the she mentioned the man on court that I have some little yikes about him. So I, when I've made my own prayer to me, I'll start on the man on the man on the last day of the house. Get out. Get out. So her first meeting, yeah, on our first meeting, don't be like that. We got into an ITD argument. So I saw her and then my friend off to the house. Because then my friend said very good friend of mine. So she comes to my house and go to the house like more like a family. So I saw her off to our house. So as we're going, we have conversations and my time would go to the house. It was in Pima. She was, she was with now, always, I was standing alone. And I don't know that. Come on up. I'm talking, come on up. So you're really by the first time. Yes, sure. After that. Exand, I said, I said, I'm an interesting person where I can be taught off exactly. And God is working on us. So after I left, she told me my friend, that's why my friend would be from the soul like this. That's what I said. That I friend. That's what I said. This, my friend is saying. This is what I said. So I knocked out that I said, then I have a friend that. Only question she asked when we knew Dragrad, our handsides, our comrades. So I came around, I started out and she brought all her questions and her positions. And it was a phrase, but I was taught. I repeated that. That's how you went out. Mmm, mmm, mmm. I started going out. I, I already did that. And I too, true or something that caught up was that she was so amused at how smooth I was in the script. And I was like whoa, whoa, whoa. So it was arguing with the rich before what not where we come. She was hearing me. And I was not too rural with my words and I was not insultive because I think that I was insultive not to her, but she said she is insultive. And it's something I don't do anymore. It was, it was not 90s. It was quite rural and it was perfect. And it just, yeah. So that was how we started. It's like there was a religious spirit. So after that, she got my number. I think after that, we had another far worse back to the beginning. Why taught us scriptures and this was very, very good. Then we got talking, got talking, got talking, got talking, got talking. This is the question on future questions, question, around, around spiritual life, and that spiritual life. And then we got talking about the spiritual life. And then we dated or we caught it or we, we started we dated. No, no, no, no, no. I'm saying like as the origin points, no, there was no conversation like you were just, you just smoothed into that. As your relationship was already going. There was no point where I, where it was in my mind like in a, for a while. So because like I said, I mean, I'm quite deceiving because of my discipline as a spiritual, as a very spiritual person. People that got put on them as spiritual daughter, one of the things I make sure I kill my heart is having desires to us then. That's true. I, is unintentional and I do, I know I do it. Is that it? I see them first as my sister. I don't know what I've desires to us my younger sister. And then as we relate, I now see myself as a dad to them. So I can't blow all of those funny things in two. There was no, there was at no point where there was this, this is a bit from like from me to a, there was no point. And in my conversations with her also, maybe not, maybe not, but I'm starting to buy myself. Now, so she to survive yourself, meaning she probably was already, I don't know, I don't know, you know, although I don't, I don't like that. And there was a time when like, there was no end time, that very emotional stuff. The spiritual further, spiritual, mental mental mental, people liked, or the supply, the supply. So we got along, got along, got along. All along, I was visiting a class of programs and what not. It gets in competitions to class. It started with people knowing about me. It's just, there's a lot of story about people knowing about about me and then extending competitions. And then it was forward to the year, we go back to 2004, first forward to the, I can't remember here, you can, this one, I was only two weeks retreats. And then on the picture again, I was praying for, these were, I said, we don't, our problem starts when we started sharing our cross-equations. I've shared my cross-equations one time, I did, we went online and so I commented that this is lost for power. The answer is lost for power. The one you are. So I was retreats, praying for us every day for power. I wanted to shift and edit something just, praying for us every day for two weeks, short to go. And praying because of my retreats, God told me first that I would give you a wife from my own, my own friend. That's a very different one. My own friend. That's a different one. Of course, from my own, I knew quite a number of ladies. True, I knew like, quality this one. But then, after I go to my dad's, let's count to. I started to think so. Maybe there's a friend she meets that I would not meet. And I would say, "Can I fix her?" And then, and this, this, I'm saying this because I had shot my ads, I told him, any girl I was said, I was very intentional. Yeah, we are young people. We don't want to be captured in funny stuff. And because we are young people, we are very, very, very, we are great tendency to be feeling negative, you understand? Like, our wounds are born in our loss. This is wisdom to manage things before they escalate. So when God said that, I didn't capture in the other thing, I named him, but I'm like, "Okay, this one, this one." So I just, and then, still do the course of the retreat, I was pretty full of power. There was one, deep one of the dudes, this I was very high, this pitied, very, very high experience. And he said, "It's said to me, so, so, so, so, it's alive." He said, "Deeper, so I can shoot now, future." Big deal. So this is a big deal, so I say, "All right." I pretty good, dude. Because I'm a spiritual, um, oversight. After the retreat was over, I was like, "Okay, I'm going to do it." "I spoke to my friend, he said what I was doing, he said what I was doing." "Actually, he very funny thing was that once my two-week student was over, I went out to a left room to one of my friends as I got to his house, his name is Ezeka. As I got to his house, his son looked at me and I was like, "God should know I. I denied." "Well, I said no, it said no, because God told me that I was so new to my wife, I said, what's my problem?" "I said, "Somies my wife." "Because when God gave me the stuff, I told God I said I want three convictions and I told God the trick and the convictions I want. I said, "Spray the time of my friends, let them know." And I said, "Show me in multiple dreams." "No, I have got, I said give me three convictions." Three convictions were spray the time of my friends, multiple dreams. He gave me the last one, the last one, the last one, the middle family, so I was like, "Posito, I was familiar with you, my middle-aged, what was your friend's come together?" Even if I come to Christ, I'm going to Christ, but I'm not touching down anybody, I'm not seeing anybody, so it felt impossible. And as I finished my reach, I'm like, "Tot's not my friends." I said, "I look at Christ, I said no." I denied actually, "Nm, like Peter." He said, "I don't know where I talked about." He said, "So I said, let's say good-ass you know, who's good, who's good, take." Then he said, "God, put me, your face and the world's face." I said, "Oh!" I said, "Wow, this is crazy." I said, "This is crazy, I said, this is crazy." I said, "Like two or three of my friends testified about it." So because I'm a spiritual mentor, I reached out to him. I said, "Yeah." And I said, "Hello sister." I said, "I said, I was going to show you who you're going to get married to." She said, "Yes, I said, who is the best I said?" I'm sorry, I can't tell you. I was like, "Oh, there is a call for me." I said, "I plead my game, plead my game, fly sharp, plead my game, fly sharp, plead my game." Long-go, long-go, long-go, I shuffled out that it's me. She didn't go directly with signs and. The signs and. Long-go, she analyzed me. So I acted as though it's not true. I said, "Just to please, with people listening, don't fight with, don't lash out with me." I said, "I know that, you would say that, we care, that's what I'm saying." I just acted as if it's not true. She said, "No, no, no, come on, come with me." There was a program that was to happen in Lagos. Convagence still has to be Lagos. This time was going to happen on the island. Since she called me, she wasn't in Lagos. She called me that assist her in coming for convergence. That I should keep sitting. Apparently I got convergence with her. So I just felt then that convergence. And I called as I said, "Cos I thought I'd give you a stand-up, but. Because I could not keep sleeping, I called as I said, "Cos I said, we are. Is this what you keep?" She said, "We are." It's a soup, please. It didn't caught me. So during the break of the conference, I was just going to say, "I saw she and I broke down." It was a family. Family. Family. I said, "Family." So it clicked immediately. It clicked immediately. So I called my spiritual father. I said, "Papa, these were the arts." And then it gave me strength. And my spiritual father, what we are doing today, the arts. He said, "I already met you, time to catch up." He said, "You already met me, time to catch up." He said, "You know, perhaps now time to share with the people some of these truths about yourself. On a parting note, if there's anything that you would love for people, there's a guy I see on Instagram. I'm trying to, I don't remember his name, but people were known for a school of hard knocks. He goes to ask him billionaires questions. I think most people would know him. I know him. Yeah. He always has this question. I don't know. He's one of the best interviews I've ever seen. He always asks this question, I'll ask you the same question. If me and you would die today, he was one knowledge. You would love to leave for the younger generation. But then, he would love to leave for people. If you and I died yesterday, that's what I said. No, we can't die today. I wish I was not done. But if you had one message, one knowledge, you would love to leave for people. What's that? Like, I know that. I am. David. David. David. David. The same with the scriptures summarized the end of David's life. That's it now. I would say. And David slept with his father's. And that I have served his generation. So if I'm dying anytime, one thing I'd like to leave with this generation and whatever generation comes after is at last I was here. I give my best in service to God for this generation. I served God in my generation and I should my generation. I have six. So I want to sleep with my dad's. And I serve my generation according to the wheel of God. Wow. That's brilliant. Brilliant. Thank you very much, sir. Thank you for the wisdom that you have. I'm so glad you're here. So, congratulations, sir. Thank you. You're just my name. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, I believe that you have learned a lot from this session. Thank you so much, Pastor Philippe. Indeed, so much wisdom has been shared in this episode. And I believe that you have picked one or two things. And in the fabric of the making of a man or a woman who God is using or God will use, you would always find certain ingredients. Integrity is one of the things. If you paid much attention to what he said, integrity being the same person over time in different phases of life that he found himself. Right. Integrity is one of the ingredients you find in him. And the other thing is that resilience and that consistent desire and drive for excellence. Whether it's leadership, whether it's Christian, whatever it is that you do business, that drive is what puts you at the forefront or whatever that whatever it is that you do. Whether or not the resources are even available. Right. It is the desire for excellence. So thank you so much for being a part of conversation. I love you so much. And do not forget to comment, subscribe. Let me know probably what you're waiting for. And if you have any question, maybe for Pastor Philippe, if he would, you know, check the comments. Hopefully, hopefully not. What if you would check the comment, probably leave a message or whatever. Do not forget to subscribe. I love you and see you on the next episode. Bye bye. Ciao.