The transcription emphasizes that God's Word is a powerful force for transformation, reshaping lives and destinies. Speaker 3 teaches that God's presence, often misunderstood as merely emotional, is actually a spirit of productivity and partnership. In Genesis, God created man and placed him in His presence (Eden) to cultivate and multiply, showing that God's power is manifested through human alignment. The speaker argues that God's method for addressing chaos and darkness is sending humans as "the light of the world" (Matthew 5:14). He critiques fatalism, stating that not all events are God's will; human failure can hinder divine plans, as seen in Moses' generation that died in the wilderness due to a denatured mindset. Using examples like Joseph, who prospered because God's presence was with him, the speaker urges believers to see God's presence as a source of wisdom and productivity in all spheres—not just church. He challenges listeners to take responsibility for societal issues, like maternal mortality or failed systems, rather than attributing them to God's will. Ultimately, the message calls for a generation of leaders who partner with God to transform their nations, emphasizing that with God's presence, everything they do will prosper.
Speaker 1
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Apostle Femi Lazarus has been given a divine mandate to raise a generation of Kingdom minded culture shapers, leaders equipped to infiltrate every sphere of influence, to inspire, to transform societies and to leave a lasting mark on generations to come.
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The Word of God dominates my spirit.
His life is at work in me.
My body is not susceptible to sickness.
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His sermons knows no boundaries.
It speaks to every race, every tongue, every culture, every sermon, every insight, every council carries the power to ignite transformation, bring healing, and unlock divine purpose.
Get set for a journey beyond the ordinary, a journey of transformation, of restoration, empowerment through the power of God's Word.
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So I said I'm going to teach you about the practice of what?
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The presence of God.
Very interesting.
So I'm going to have to build.
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Turn your Bibles.
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Quickly with me the book of Genesis chapter #1.
Genesis chapter #1 Very interesting scripture to read.
If you're dare say Amen, let's start the reading from verse one.
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth and the earth was without form and void and darkness was upon the face of the deep and the Spirit of God.
The word there is the word ruach which means wind moved upon the face of the waters.
Is that in your Bible?
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You know.
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There's something I want to call your attention to.
Look at verse 2.
The earth.
Was it our foam and void and darkness was upon the face of the deep, and the rouache of Elohim moved upon the face of the waters?
So because often times when we say the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God, we sometimes feel a witch of the.
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Godhead, that's why the Word is what Elohim moved upon the face of the waters.
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What I'm trying to show you is that God was there but things went bad and look at verse 3 and God said let there be light and there was light.
So we introduced to a beautiful story with immediate observation of chaos and God's approach how he solves problems.
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But.
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Also, the Bible did not denied from us the fact that God made two things, the heaven and the earth.
Then the earth will start from an void.
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And then the Spirit of God was there often.
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Times we use the word the Spirit of God to illustrate the presence of God.
Now there's something I need to show you.
Let's go to Genesis chapter #2 and you have to really pay attention because I'm building so you can catch everything.
If you're this Amen.
Genesis 27 is that in your Bible.
And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground and breaded into his nostrils the bread of life, and man became a living soul.
Yes, and.
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The Lord God planted a garden.
Eastward Eden, Eastward Eden.
There he put the man.
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Whom he had formed, and out of the ground the Lord God.
So he made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sides and good for food, and the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Yes, and the river went out of Eden to water the garden, and from death was parted, and they came into foreheads.
The name of the phrase is Python.
That is the land that compasses the whole land of Avila, where there's gold and the gold of that land is good, and there's delium there an Onyx stone.
The name of the second river is Gion.
They seem to compare the whole land of Ethiopia and the same.
The name of the third river is Edekel, that is, which go towards the east of Assyria and the 4th Revised Euphrates.
And the Lord took the man and placed him in the Garden of Eden, which simply means that Eden means the open spot of God's presence.
It's that kind of word that could mean many things without me bringing them together.
They're open spots, or the place where everyone is open upon the earth.
So it's like the place of His presence.
So he put the man in his presence to dress it and to keep it.
And the Lord commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest really eat, Yes, so.
But of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it.
For any day that thou eatest, thou shalt surely die.
And the law said, It is not good that a man should be alone.
I will make him an head mean and out of the ground a lot.
Formed every beast of the field and every fall up there and brought them to Adam to see what you will name them.
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It brings creatures first before it brings your spouse.
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You heard that it brings different creatures first before it brings your.
You're welcome.
OK, I didn't say anything but listen.
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So God was starting something new and if you read the Bible, one of the reasons why some things might look like folklore.
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Is because the simplicity of God is amazing.
Sometimes it doesn't make sense.
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And you know you're going to start something.
He just brought the guy.
Both of you come.
So he brought the man Adam and brought Eve and.
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Placed them in His presence.
But it is Eden as a garden.
Eden is not a garden, hidden US rivers, not goddess rivers.
And what God said to them is to cultivate this garden, cultivate what is.
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In my presence, and he had given them an instruction earlier, but fruitful and multiplied.
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So.
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All you have to do master the presence, then begin to produce with it.
Begin to because your idea of God's presence is that which makes you feel goosebumps.
God's idea of his presence is that that you are productive with and I'm going.
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To show you, you know, we read.
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Genesis 1 verse one to three how that God God was.
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There, his spirit was there.
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And yet things went bad.
So the idea of God is my presence in itself cannot get things done on the.
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Earth without the partnership of man.
That's God's idea, so.
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He made man in his own image.
Place him in his presence, give him instructions, and then let's build from there.
So the first thing here is.
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God is all powerful, but His power is only.
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Felt where there is a man who is in alignment with him, God is.
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All creative but.
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By himself, without the partnership of a man, you won't see his creativity.
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The Holy Spirit is the spirit of productivity, but you will see that depth or that level of productivity to the degree that.
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There is a man he can align with.
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If you read.
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Matthew 5 verse 14 you instantly began to begin to have an idea that the statement you read in Genesis 1/2 is actually a prophetic statement when Jesus came and said you are.
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The light of the world.
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So it means if there's chaos and there's darkness and there's destruction and things are bad anywhere, it means the response of God the day to it was his response yesterday.
What God sends to where there is darkness and chaos is the light of the world, and that's who you are.
So if we see chaos and we see destruction, we see poverty, we see luck in a place, we don't ask where God is, we ask where is the light of this place.
Do you understand that now?
Because God's method for solving problems that are on the earth is man.
Put your hands on your chest.
Say I am God's method.
Now I understand that if you have a religious mind that might be tough for you to say.
Say it again, I am God's strategy.
Say it again, I'm God's method.
Say it again, I'm God's strategy.
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But the issue is that sometimes, as God's method, what you represent may only be proficient.
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To solve the problems of your families but not the problem of your nation, you are a kind of solution, just that when it comes to capacity.
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You might be relevant at home, but not outside in terms of what capacity.
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In terms of capacity, you will be relevant to get someone to receive the oligos by layer of hands.
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You solve the problem.
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But if that person also a business challenge, you are limited in giving that best solution because what you have been able to do with the oligos is transmission.
Let me take you trade, John, are you still here?
Put your hands on your chest again.
Say I am God's method.
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So wherever there's chaos and God needs to send a man, he sends me there said again, I'm God's method.
I am God's strategy.
Now look at this scripture turn, the Bible book of Exodus chapter #3 Exodus 3 if I dare say Amen.
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Can we jump?
Let's start.
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Reading from verse 7.
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And the Lord said I've surely seen the affliction of my people, which are in Egypt.
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And I've heard their cry by a reason of their taskmasters, for I know their sorrows.
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I am come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians, and to bring them up out of the land to a good land and to a large.
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All right, on to a landfill with milk and honey, and the place of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the perisite, and the Evite and the Jebusites.
Now, therefore, behold the crowd, the true of Israelis come to me, and I've also.
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Seen the oppression where Egyptians oppressed them.
Come now, therefore, and I will send you to favor.
I thought he said he has come down.
He said he has come down.
But I won't do it until there's a man.
And the case is so bad that 40 years ago this man came.
They didn't recognize their deliverance.
He ran for 40 years.
God waited for 40 years because the idea is man, but not just any kind of man.
There is a way your life will be conditioned and your mentality will be obstructed.
You can be relevant in church, but the assignment you may not be able to do in a lifetime.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
It was very certain for reasons best known to God He knew.
Anybody who has been ruled by Pharaoh and afflicted by Pharaoh cannot set them free from Pharaoh.
Began orchestrating it from bed.
Be rest in the environment where you are not as intimidated as the rest.
I'm saying there is what intimidation can do to your mind, that you will only perceive God's instruction in a direction.
Even though the world is free for you to dream, you can't conceive certain kind because they're picking it out of you.
So if you're a parent, you understand there is a way you erase those children.
God can bring giant out of them, and there's a way you can beat mites.
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Out of them.
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We are not saying don't discipline your children or this one.
You're always slapping them with the hand of Satan.
Are you?
From what?
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I'm saying here, God said I have calmed down.
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But they say I will send you so the idea.
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Is not I'm calm down, I'm just going to come and bully them Go I will back you.
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Up meaning that if you stay, I stay.
If you move, I move.
They will feel my move to the degree that you go.
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That's the way he partners with men.
So look up if we.
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Look at this in the Bible.
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What do you think God is saying concerning Nigeria right now?
I have seen the affliction of my children which are in Nigeria.
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Completed.
Yes.
Now I'll come down and do it.
I'll come down and fix power.
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I'll come down and fix your road.
I'll come back and fix security.
I'm sending you.
I'm sending you what is sent him in the direction that he has shown interest if you are not interested.
God is all powerful.
He can't force an assignment and the interest to do it on you.
It begins with interest if you are not seen if.
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A vision.
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For your nation, there's a way you will have a religious mind.
You start feeling guilty that are supposed to be a pastor because based on cultivation, you've only seen one thing as glamorous and that's where you are headed.
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It's in the area of your interest I want to do it.
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But I have to send you.
So if you don't go, you know, the assumption you have is that everything God wants to be done on earth will be done.
It's not true.
I, I need to change that idea about God.
All right?
Because somebody can die that God still needs.
And God has no choice if Hello is gone.
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You to believe that God is in charge of everything it does.
Everything is it is.
Whatever happens is his will.
The concept is called fatalism.
It takes.
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You away from actions and tell you that God is going to get it done is the reason why many of you served where you served because they told you that once NYC poses somewhere, God wants you there.
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God.
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In the system where some people have fixed their children in Lagos and Abuja, in the heat of everything that is happening, God is sending you to.
I didn't mention Him.
Look up, it's not everything that is happening to you now.
That's God's will.
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You say you had a relationship come.
Why?
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Didn't you just see anybody on the street?
There are fine girls, so why don't you just see anybody and just ask them out that you went for that one?
Why?
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Oh, it's it's a noble question.
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And I have no no.
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No ulterior motive, trust me.
Yeah.
Why?
You knew her so meaning that you know the way she thinks and it aligns with.
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Yours.
So it tells you that people are not what they look like they are.
What is going on here?
Listen to what I'm saying.
By mere coincidence, two fine people can produce a fine person, but this place is dysfunctional that you are fine.
You have no contribution to it, you only maintain it.
You met yourself like that.
Now I know people are fixing many things now that's not my own, but I'm just.
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Saying, do you?
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Understand what I'm saying here?
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Because you can.
You can see a fool.
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And from a dream, say that's God.
In fact, let me let me settle this matter.
God can tell you five years ago that somebody's your spouse and now He has changed his mind because considering your growth and the person's growth, it's not.
It can't be this person.
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Seller.
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You know, those of you that I should say as I step out on Monday morning, anybody I see, I just know that that's good.
Welcome to the world of trouble.
Your problem just started.
I'm trying to show you something.
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God didn't like it.
Years.
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Ago, I lost my mentor to cancer, but not even to cancer.
The the kind of cancer was such that could have been addressed effortlessly.
We lost him to a wrong diagnosis.
That's not God, that's a failed system.
Look at the rate of maternal mortality.
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You saw what happened months ago.
A woman wanted to give birth.
The hospital.
Oh.
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God asked for a deposit of 20,000 or so.
She couldn't afford it.
She gave birth to twins.
The both of them died.
That's not good.
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I was sharing.
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One spiritual daughter of mine, she had a lung infection and they were going to and first they said anesthesiologist is not around need to understand.
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What that means?
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Then they now said there's no general, no light.
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I evenly are going to perform the surgery now.
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So I was with the Doctor, Who happens to be one of us on phone.
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And I said we both.
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Know that this girl doesn't have time, he says.
True, I said.
Tell them all.
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If something happens to this girl, we are coming down there.
I'm not going to lose anybody to what money can solve.
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Do you understand what I'm saying?
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There's this place is called Light Nation for a visit.
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I will not listen to what I'm saying.
We quickly got an ambulance, moved her to Lagos.
They did this surgery within 24 hours.
She's back now, bouncing, watching me on screen right now.
If while that was going on, if we, if we didn't have money to say for anything, treat this girl, put the pill on us.
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She could die be watching us now in the cloud of witnesses in heaven.
You will sit down there and say our time, Kim.
I'm saying in this world there are people we still need who have gone because the system God did a place ahead filled.
God's agenda can fail because the human factor failed.
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Do you understand that?
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Is again that can fail God.
God is all powerful.
But if you read the Bible where God never hid his vulnerability, he said to Moses, let me wipe out all these guys.
Moses said if you killed them, they will say you are not capable.
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Says do I repent?
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God that brought them out of Egypt.
He couldn't bring them into Canaan.
Everyone that were in Egypt had to die because affliction denatured them.
And that's one of my concern for Africa in this season, that the pain we have gone through.
There's a way to denature us.
We are not fit.
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For the next phase, but there will be Joshua and Caleb's amongst us who have another spirit.
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Do you understand that it is not everything that is God's will?
Sometimes you see people are children are coming out of a school and you hear a trailer meet the brake field and we're on several of them over.
That's not God's will.
Someone at ought to have created bombs close to school areas.
How to have structures that make sure the children are laid out without any capacity.
And I'm teaching you this because so you don't live your life believing that anything that happens to you is God.
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'S will.
Oh no.
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There are things, if you permit, they will stay, so we have to build structures.
Do you understand that?
Look at something the book of Genesis chapter #39.
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Let's start the reading from verse one.
And Joseph was brought down to Egypt, and Potiphar, I'm sorry, Potiphar, an officer of Pharaoh, captain of the God, an Egyptian, bought him to brought him of the hands of the Ishmaelites, which had brought him down teeter.
And the Lord was with Joseph.
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What was the next statement?
And he was a prosperous man, and he was in the hands House of his master.
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The Egyptian and the master saw that the Lord.
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Was with him.
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And that the Lord made all that he did to prosper in his hands.
So you're seeing now a dimension of God's presence at work with a man.
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That once this dimension is working with a man, everything he does excels.
So we've got to understand the presence beyond feelings.
We've got to understand the presence beyond emotions.
We've got to understand the presence beyond good bumps, goosebumps.
We've got to understand the presence of God as the spirit of productivity.
I'm going to show you meaning that there are dimensions that will be on you.
You won't feel it, but on you is wisdom.
In case you've been feeling that you come to church and things are happening to people, nothing is happening to you, don't conclude something is happening to you.
Don't have to fall.
And sometimes it can be overwhelming.
I get that.
Look at that text again.
Let's read verse 2 together.
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Are you there?
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123 go.
And he was a prosperous man.
Oh Hallelujah.
I can't carry God's presence, I'll be stranded.
Say it loud and clear.
I can't carry his presence.
I'll be.
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Stranded.
Everything I do works.
Now hold on, let me explain what I'm saying.
If I give you a gun.
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And you've never seen one before and somebody's trying to rob you with a machete, A cutlass.
You can hold the gun and not do anything with it.
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Because you don't.
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Understand the purpose of the gun.
If you feel the presence is just for the church, you'll be active in church and redundant outside.
So we are trying to get you to understand everything I do.
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Works.
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It is the function of the presence.
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Nothing dies in my hands.
You see.
Listen to what I'm saying here.
It means even when you are talking, you have no permission to give room for strandedness.
We don't get stranded here.
Everything I do works.
They can't suck me in a place because of lack of productivity.
Everywhere I step, I make a difference.
How can I pray?
And those who are not engaging God are doing far better intellectually.
Everywhere I step, things work.
I have better comparison.
I shift systems.
I bring better perspectives.
The glory of God is at work in my life everywhere I step.
I don't run out of ideas.
I cannot run out of ideas.
I don't run out of perspective.
I bring brilliant perspectives such that is economically viable everywhere I step.
I am an asset.
I am needed.
I am wanted.
I am desired.
In the name of Jesus, I work with the presence of God.
My nation needs me, my continent.
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Needs what I have.
Look, look, look at, look at you.
Look at you.
Look at you.
Look at you.
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I belong to the tribe.
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Of those men in the womb, there is another spirit.
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Sit for a moment on time.
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Aito Fell counseled Absalom and said this is.
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What you should do, David, was pray.
He couldn't say make a Tofel foolish.
He said make his counsel because he knew if a Tofel counsels you, it's like you have heard from God.
Think about that.
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A man, David, was not afraid of 1000 soldiers, but once he heard a Tofel was there.
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So the moment Ito Fell counseled the young man and he did something else, Ito Fell just went home, put his house in order and killed himself because he knew he didn't follow my counsel.
We are.
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Dead.
That's the level of precision a man has in knowing my perspective can change things.
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You don't sit down and show up as one who is defeated, who is asking for permission, who wants to drop an opinion.
We bring excellent perspective because I.
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Work with the Spirit of God.
Everything.
I think every perspective I have works.
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This is the presence of God.
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What if I observed?
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Everything is now prospering because this guy is here.
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You know what?
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That means he's bringing brilliant perspectives.
He's working in a kind of way that is not just hard or.
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Smart.
You get to a point they say they're going to downsize.
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You're not even afraid.
Let me give you some statistics and it's coming to Nigeria.
But we've been trying to prepare you.
I hope you listen.
It's coming and don't wait till he comes.
So in this year 2025, Volks, Virgin and Wagon is cutting down 50,000 Staffs, Oracle and UPS also cutting down 30,000 Staffs, Amazon 16,000 Staffs.
They've done some thousands just a while ago.
Dell Technologies 11,000 Staffs, Meter 8000 Staffs.
In fact, they just ended their partnership with an organization in Kenya where they downsized thousands of people.
And this is about 169,500 job cuts across all these.
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Big companies is coming soon.
With the advent of AI, bankers will no longer be relevant because we're going to a system where nobody will have to queue in front of you to drop money in banks or to remove their money.
We're going through a system where everyone, once you want to deposit, you go to the ATM and deposit your money.
I know you have shared brilliant testimonies.
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About the way God gave you the work in those organizations and all that.
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But we are saying that there are human developments that can take that testimony from you.
Is God limited to what you have now?
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Is coming.
It's here already.
Global dynamics have changed.
It has changed even our federal universities that don't have online programs, they better adjust.
They will run out of funding.
How many of your federal schools can you sufficiently?
No Potter is giving problem.
We keep complaining.
Oh, the system is bad.
Oh the system is bad.
Oh this structure, oh that one.
It is mirroring the fact that you are not involved.
That's what is showing.
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You know why?
Because we're not raised to be bold, to enter certain quarters to solve the problems first.
It begins with the spirit of boldness.
She talked about the mosquito mentality, mosquito effect that are small as a mosquito is.
It can enter your room and make you dance.
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He said you.
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Describe the elephant in terms of size, or the mosquito in terms of effect.
It doesn't matter what your size is, what your age is.
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A disruptor.
And while you are at it, don't let religious people shut you down.
You can hear one someone that will collect your vision.
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You know when a woman is pregnant?
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That you start seeing don't take this avoid this food avoid.
Avoid hibiscus drink.
Avoid.
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Don't take too much vitamin C Don't don't take this don't but in a normal.
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Day you can take all those.
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Things, but because you are carrying something, you select diet.
Who told you that once you are carrying a vision, you must hear all preachers select diet.
There are those that are good.
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Or keep you on fire.
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But they have limitations.
I all know you, but I recognize your limitation in the days when it comes to doing things your.
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Religious conviction will allow me to I will listen to you for fire and avoid you in terms of that.
Once I succeed at that, I'll come and so sit in your church.
People can all know you for what they could have killed.
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Do you hear what I'm saying?
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You see, sometimes we tend to look at God.
I don't know how you see him.
You see, God like 1 limited, primitive, powerful being.
He's not.
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He's not limited.
Let let me give you an illustration.
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Come bring your camera, I was going to show you this.
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But do you know this is?
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Called a gimba.
Am I correct?
Don't worry, give me.
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But do you know what they started to do this?
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A chicken if you carry a chicken.
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And move like this, the head is static.
So to produce this technology, they observed what God has made.
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We have to study God to advance.
That's the idea.
So science is spirituality unveiled.
You look at the Garden of Eden for instance and like you see they were covered themselves with fig leaves.
Do you not know that if man had not fallen, our world would have entered into advancement faster?
It took us years.
And the years it was taking us, they were caused to it.
There are people that are dying now because certain things have not been cured.
Yes, Sir.
Yes, Sir.
Now I I read a journal, I can't remember where, but in America or so there is now a total treatment.
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For sickle cell.
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Now we we found ways now to contain the spread of HIV.
Certain kind of cancers can now be cured, new research, new studies.
But before those findings were made, we already had losses.
So there were more.
There are more losses that will happen because God is waiting for sons.
I understand that you know the dimension on the puppet, but there is the dimension in the lab.
There is a dimension in research rooms.
It's still God because not everyone will come to the church to receive their healings and he wants all his children.
Well, things we read in your Bible for God so loved the world, not so he loved Christians the world.
There was a time that nothing was killing people around the world like malaria as what the time measles flew.
Many of those things we have simple treatment for them now because God was able to get someone who was making research in those areas to see them.
Say loud and clear, the presence of God is not just for church auditoriums.
Say it again.
The presence of God is not just for services.
His presence is for all sectors.
Do you understand that?
You can't begin to have.
Speaker 2
Some weird perspectives because solutions have been better to you.
Speaker 4
Hallelujah.
So you look at it, why are things the way they are?
Speaker 2
Because the person God is counting on to see it and solve it has not seen it and solved it.
Speaker 4
If you study what the anointing does, it doesn't.
Speaker 2
Change mentality.
It is growth that changes that one the anointing enhances.
Speaker 4
What it meets it's an amplifier.
And that's why you have to keep renew your mind, keep getting transformed so that you create more space to be relevant in more places.
You have to the church is just a sector and it's like the fitting room is the factory.
No product is coupled in the factory and used in the factory.
You deploy this.
Speaker 2
Is a factory.
You just know it's a factory, it's a factory, it's a factory.
Once we are done in this factory, the church is now going out.
We are going to where our work is and.
Speaker 4
It is not every part of that work that will be done in Jesus name.
What I'm saying is that your assignment does not have to contain Jesus for it to be for Jesus.
Jesus is not begging for cheap publicity.
Speaker 2
Many of you are not influencing the world because you already show through the business that is for those of your faith.
Mara Natan Chin Chin,
Angel of Light Real Estate Company.
You know, we're having a declassified podcast and we're talking with Prof and I was talking about certain things.
He doesn't believe certain things, this and all that.
And I was flying with him.
I was flying with him.
Speaker 4
And I was.
Speaker 2
Going to say something and said to me.
Speaker 4
Are you a Christian?
Speaker 2
So I said, yeah, I am.
I am.
Speaker 3
If I had introduced myself as a post Lazarus, we will not have that.
Speaker 2
Conversation because your problem is that you think you know that's just the way we think.
That
small vision you had now you have branded your name on Lars Reverend.
All those that you learn from, you are just in church perspective.
This is what we are to do with the presence.
We want to influence.
And redundant people are not influential.
Anybody who influences you is doing something and they are doing it boldly.
That's why you are touched.
You see this fear.
You are not seeing you.
Speaker 4
Know I'm just starting, you know?
Can you give me some break please?
You know, I'm just trying to get my way around this thing at 32.
When Jesus was already wrapping up his assignment.
Can you just take it easy with me?
Take it easy with you.
You know why?
Because the environment you belong to, there are no early risers there.
That's why everybody rose late.
Speaker 2
One time I called one of my friends.
I said call your dad, ask him when he made his first one million.
I think the dad said whether 40 or something.
So I said that it means that we can't take plenty advice from them.
You can honor people, but learn somewhere else.
Seller.
How can we be disappearing?
Church and the world around us is sad.
Speaker 4
Life Nation, what I'm getting you to understand is that you have a role to play.
You can call it ministry, but it doesn't have to wear ministry uniform, and you're doing it with the presence of God.
Bring in solutions because everything that affects human life effects God.
Everything.
Sometimes you, you, you want to grade Genesis because of the fall.
They fail.
They did not fall from divine nature, they fell from divine wisdom.
So progression and advancement in human history slowed down.
We began to learn by vast wisdom.
We began to learn.
I wrote a few things down.
We began to learn by vast wisdom.
Look at some of the things we're doing now with medical intervention and the big farmers.
Our concept of wealth changed from the beginning.
The design is that the most important things are abundant.
That's the design.
The wealth of God is not eating his castings.
Speaker 2
It's the reason why you are not paying for air.
It's the reason why almost anywhere you dig, you find water.
There was a time that internets to have access to it.
We're going to cyber cafes.
Some of you did cyber cafe.
You buy time.
Speaker 4
But it was in God's interests to make it abundant, those who took what was cast and make it available for all controlled wealth.
Speaker 2
There was a time that to have SIM card you use your annual salary.
Speaker 4
But those who know how to take it away from the answer of just few and put it in the answer of everyone, they were the ones functioning in the divine wisdom, and they had access to wealth.
Man rezoned the idea of wealth to studying and managing scarce resources for control.
What that means is if you understand the Bible, where gold, diamond and silver cannot be the most important things on earth, you have to look at what is abundant, what is not scarce, man.
And that's why the nations that don't have gold, don't have diamond, don't have silver, but understand human capital.
They are controlling those who have every other thing.
The solution to Africa's problem is not the natural resources, it's the people.
It's the people.
The moment you have a government and a system that is talking about harnessing the people, developing the people, the people, the people, the people who control the world, look at the challenge we're having perverse wisdom.
Big pharmaceutical organizations now would rather sell maintenance, not cure, because one patient cured is a customer lost and people die.
But that's not the idea of God.
And you can even see that even God in his wisdom puts healings in things around us, kind of food now, the world is now going back to studying it.
How are you not sitting down to say, hold on a minute, What kind of awakening is Africa experiencing now?
Where will they be next five years?
So you can be there waiting.
Why are you waiting for those who will be there to employ you?
You were not.
Speaker 2
Raised to start.
You were raised to be employed.
Somebody have to think it, do it, then find a space for you.
Speaker 4
People kill themselves for gold.
Look at what is going on in Congo, some of the richest place on earth with.
Speaker 2
Every natural resources at the poorest.
Why?
Speaker 4
The people.
Speaker 2
I understand the cost of.
Speaker 4
Fuel is high, but we are not dealing with scarcity, Not because.
Speaker 2
God came to help Nigeria because.
Speaker 4
One man, one man, One man started a refinery.
One man, one man.
And he's not a Christian.
God wants to solve the problem of people.
If an unbeliever will catch it and have the audacity, it will give him the wisdom.
So you can sit down there and say we are people of God, those that you say they are not, people who control everything.
Speaker 2
And you will be there online.
Speaker 4
Arguing does God want a Christian?
Blessed or not, that's your argument daily.
And now you are not relevant in strategic matters because you don't have there's no Christian bank, several Muslim banks they borrow themselves money, no interest.
The crowdfund each other to start things.
The only faith you can be sure will argue every day Christians the energy for productivity.
They are showing knowledge that is not there.
We argue about everything, theology, eschatology, shame ourselves because the kind of knowledge we have is not such that changes life.
It is such we win argument with.
That's the level of the knowledge.
Say not.
Speaker 2
Me say it again, say not me.
So it means if man had not fallen and we are functioning with that, divine wisdom close to cancer will be in our daily meal.
Speaker 4
Because nobody is using perverted wisdom to audit so it will become more expensive because it kills being fast.
I'm saying our wisdom level fell, we became destructive, our sustainability principles 0.
We'll not have developed things that will affect our clan planet because we'll be doing it by the wisdom of look at everything God made.
No wastage, everything.
Speaker 2
Even if a plant dies, it nourishes death.
Everything God made can be recycled.
Why is it that we boost our productivity but something is destroyed because of it?
Speaker 4
God's presence is relevant in science, in manufacturing, is the first manufacturer, is the first cataractic surgeon.
And if you read Job 38, you will see God introduced in another dimension.
He introduced himself and boasted of the fact that He made everything he answered to out of the wild wing, and said to him, Look at the next verse, Who is this that act like counsel by words without knowledge.
Give up thyselves like a man, for I would demand of their.
Speaker 2
You shall answer me the next verse.
Where was that when I laid the foundations of the earth they played?
Thou has understanding.
Look at it quickly, he said.
When who had laid the measures thereof?
If thou knowest who had stretched the lines.
Speaker 4
Before you began to trust study your longitudinal lines and Latina, he said.
There are lines before your geography got there, he claimed.
Speaker 2
Ownership Continue and read everything.
Whereupon are the foundations thereof fasting?
Who laid the cornerstones thereof?
Speaker 4
When the morning stars stand together and all the songs of God.
Speaker 2
Shouted for joy.
Speaker 4
Who shot off the seas with doors when it break forth as it had issued out of the womb, He said the reason why the sea don't overround you.
There is an invisible system.
I created it.
Ideally this is how far you should go.
You may, you may study it in science and have words for it, but you are studying what you didn't create.
God is introducing himself.
I'm not just from religious fanatical being.
I am the God of productivity also.
I create, I invent.
Don't you get it?
The future of the church is not in church walls.
The most effective church in years to come will not be judged by sitting power or sitting strength, descending strength, not the number of people who are seated.
And if anything happen, we are all defeated, put together or the number of those who can go So while we enjoy the charade.
Speaker 2
Of talking about whatever we talk about.
Speaker 4
We are coming to the season of the Feast of Tabernacles.
Speaker 2
Passover is past, Pentecost is past.
The last feast is outside.
The end time church is the Church of Italawa, the outside.
There are those that are not followers here, but when they sell our good works, they will now come.
Is it Isaiah to let me get that scripture?
Speaker 4
They will come.
Speaker 2
When they say our good works, oh, thank you, Lord Jesus, oh, thank you, Lord Jesus.
And it shall come to pass in the last days, that a mountain of the House of the Lord shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above heels.
And.
Speaker 4
Nations, all nations, it's telling us all nations will flow to it.
Why?
They see, listen, they want solutions.
Speaker 2
When we hosted the wife of Nanagari, Missus Sesser.
It doesn't matter whether you're an atheist, whether you're a Muslim, whether you worship at all, whether you this all wanted the contact Oh, I got.
Speaker 4
Mails.
I got message.
Can you please help us?
Give me the contact of this person please.
Somebody's dying here.
They may not.
Speaker 2
Come like that when you talk about Jesus.
Speaker 4
But when you come with the spirit bearing solutions, the idea of changing culture is to create an atmosphere that people will be comfortable without knowing something is happening to them before they can realize we have changed them.
We can't get that done by being irritants.
Speaker 2
You know why they hate our God?
They hate what He does to those who represent His name.
That's why.
Look at the killings.
We are being killed.
Speaker 4
Like chickens.
As if there's no bomb in Gilead, how can the gate of Africa be terrorized this much?
Speaker 2
There's one of us here in fact, 2 amongst them created something called panic button that if you are taking in the wrong environment at the click of a button, distress signal can be released.
They can tell your exact location and track you there.
Another young man here now he's working with, I think the government of Ghana.
They are building surveillance drones, surveillance cameras that can map out areas hundreds of kilometers.
Solution.
I know we are praying.
Speaker 4
We'll solve the problem too.
A book of our prayers.
I don't able to carry me.
Speaker 2
There are two dimensions of the presence.
Number one, the one that was with Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego when they were thrown to the fire presence, but there's another one and I think he's higher.
The one that was on Daniel, that there was no need for him to go through the fire because it was.
Speaker 4
Exceptional We can't talk about surviving persecution.
Speaker 2
But there is what?
Speaker 4
Leaves you above it because they just can't touch your.
Speaker 2
Kind say I have it right, Nation.
If you guys don't take these things out there, they will treat you like shorts that has lost his tests and they will trample on you.
That's exactly what they are doing to us.
Speaker 4
It's with mental scriptures.
When they call us out every day and insult us and all that, it's because we are too.
Speaker 2
Careful in the areas.
We should be bold, and that's the treatment we get.
It doesn't matter whether you're responsible for the problem or not, as long as you're in that jar, they will trample on you.
Say Lord will receive.
Speaker 3
Wisdom.
Speaker 4
We receive.
We receive wisdom.
We receive wisdom.
Speaker 2
And the spirit of boldness to get things done in the name of.
Speaker 3
Jesus, I refuse to be limited.
I refuse to be stopped.
Speaker 2
From this morning, I go out.
I step out in the fullness of God's anointed.
Go out.
Find the easiest way to join what you need to join through mentorship, by volunteering.
Be a part of something.
I get mails and calls to come to some African nations, some and do this and help us with this because through my conversations I've shown interests.
So in case you are wondering how does it happen, show interests.
The things you are not addressing you will not be needed for.
That's the way it works.
When we go on your social media, how we see is.
Speaker 4
Swag epic God, that's the area of your interest.
Speaker 2
Don't be surprised if I'm not needed because that's the protocol you build around yourself.
Listen to what I'm saying.
I know in church we say trust my heart.
Only God sees the art.
Men will meet you based on what they see.
Speaker 4
Moses was working on for God.
He brought them out of Egypt.
He was counseling, working hard.
He was going to die of exhaustion.
God saw it.
He didn't talk till Jethro came and said you will kill yourself.
God can know what you are doing.
You will not succeed with and he won't talk.
Every one of you is a bit relaxed because there is hope that the suffering you are suffering today will not be forever.
I'm saying that hope might be wrong.
Then the one who knows all things knows that this same you thinking like this.
You mean like in another 40 years the suffering is more?
It's not everyone who thought they would breakthrough that breakthrough.
Some die trying.
There is no guarantee you 2 won't die.
In case you are thinking God will come and tell you, I'm saying no, it will not say what systems are on ground to say, as in it doesn't say everything.
It would not put you in the place where you don't need men.
It won't do that.
Don't let religious mentality finish you.
You can't waste your life.
I've told you somebody can come to the hospital.
Speaker 2
You look at the person, this person won't make it, but the families are still on the up and down and you just know that this is gone.
Hope is good, but if you embrace it too much, it will finish you.
Speaker 4
That's why I thank God for prophecies.
What I've found out most times those that they didn't prophesied to fulfilled prophecies more than many of those they prophesied to.
But there's a way to come on professor.
On your head you go and relax and say, ah, oppose family.
Lazaros, I see God trust you.
God, don't tell me, let me walk with anger.
Don't despise prophecies, but don't let it destroy you.
Speaker 2
What are the things you are not doing now because you have the hope that they will happen by themselves?
Take that presence into those spaces.
Speaker 4
I feel like giving you time to pray.
Listen.
After meetings like these, decisions must be born.
What did I say?
I'm not even making new decisions from here now.
Now for some of you, you will no longer.
You will no longer hide.
Wait.
Let me ask you a question.
Wait.
Who are you in this body that you are locking your Instagram?
No, no, no.
So what are you thinking?
Anybody who wants to swap out there, just follow me.
I've got to prove it.
I'll check it.
Meanwhile, you locked that thing because somebody broke up with you.
I don't want the best to be seeing you.
So because of one person, you locked the rest of us out.
We are trying to check the areas you can be needed locked.
We like to check you without following you.
Speaker 2
Tell your neighbor, show me your Instagram.
Speaker 4
Will cause trouble.
How will one person break up with you and you take it out on all your social media platform?
Speaker 2
It's because you are not doing much.
They're not doing much.
That person controls your life.
They're not doing much.
Speaker 3
Oh glory to God.
Oh, I'm free.
Speaker 4
People meet me sometimes, say I post, I want to do this.
I don't know what you I said me.
If that's the way I care about how people feel, you gotta be doing things I'm doing.
Get to work, get to work, get to work.
Ask for audacity.
Ask for wisdom.
Ask for the presence.
Oh, I wish you would stand up and pray
Jesus
name we're praying.
Listen, God will not start for you what you ought to start.
Some of you are styles on things, but now you'll need professionals.
You can't listen.
The wisdom to scale from this point A to point B is not on you.
So go and look for your own Jethro.
I have sat with professionals who are fact checking the things I'm doing and what I claim to hear from God will look like rubbish right now because somebody who knows more is assessing it.
But we, we got this idea from God, go put that wisdom on him.
There are people that if you are going to scale, you must meet.
There are there are decisions that if you are going to go beyond your local environment, you must make, you just must make.
And guess what, I know you are ready to teach you all things, but sometimes many of those things it teaches you through men.
Stop bragging about, oh, I go to light station.
Nothing dies now and plenty things can die in your hands.
How many business have died in your hands?
But you're not the one that started one last year.
You are sharing it on social media, everywhere.
Where is it you start New year, new me because of what you don't know.
It has died.
No structure, no accountability.
You just keep using this same wisdom from the village.
Everything keeps dying.
You come, go, be.
Nothing Died the business.
Say what?
I'm dead.
I'm dead.
Say not anymore.
Say not anymore.
Come on, say it again, not anymore.
Everything I do works.
You know, some people ask me how do you run several organizations?
How do you do all these things?
Well I found out in the Bible no one has created more things that is diverse like God.
Speaker 2
But there is a point where everything meets the reason you are doing too and you feel you are doing too much because they can't meet.
One might be out loud but the other supports it.
It's in the.
Speaker 4
Bible are you reading with church mind?
Speaker 2
Men of you need to know there are places they won't respect you as a pastor, but they will respect you with your PhD.
Speaker 3
We respect you as a professionals, as a professional there.
Speaker 2
If the Church is the hope of the world, we can't be lacking in knowledge.
This same presence helps us to create amazing things.
Speaker 4
Oh glory to God, if anyone come around you, they must have an idea of what everyone looks like.
That's Kingdom.
Make it.
Make it your decision if anybody.
Speaker 2
Comes to my home.
Speaker 4
Let it be.
Speaker 2
That they will have an idea of what everyone looks like if anyone enters my car.
Let it be.
They will have an idea of what everyone looks like if they come to my organization.
Speaker 4
Let it be.
Speaker 2
They will have an idea of what everyone looks like.
You can't be in charge of interfacing with people, and you are.
Speaker 4
Speaking based on the way you want to speak, the client can feel your mood.
You are not trained, you are not trained, you are not fit for employment.
The client can feel your mood.
And we do see we are Christians most time.
We are the most lazy people because they lie to you.
Speaker 2
That God is going to do everything anyways.
You can lose out, but I take this presence.
Speaker 4
Everywhere I make a difference, I make a difference.
Speaker 2
O in the name of Jesus, can we have some repentance and some prayers?
I make a difference.
Speaker 4
I make a difference everywhere I step.
Speaker 2
We bless you Lord, in Jesus mighty name we've.
Speaker 3
Prayed.
Speaker 2
Lift your two hands.
The Lord bless you with the dew from above, and the fatness of the earth, and plenty.
Speaker 3
Corn and wine.
Speaker 2
The wisdom that comes from above is first pure, peaceable, and easily untreated.
Let that wisdom rest upon your life.
Begin to create differently.
Begin to get results differently.
Step into your new places.
For some of you, it is the grace for flexibility.
You are just too rigid.
Fixed on yesterday.
Listen, look up, put your hands down.
Sometimes, and I've said this again and again, sometimes it is not sustainable to be a man of your word.
Be a man of his word when he speaks.
Speaker 4
Swallow your word, you say.
This is this is what we are doing.
Speaker 2
And new wisdom is coming that that, that that's not going to work.
That's it, he said.
Kill Isaac then, is he saying?
Speaker 3
Use the ARM, be updated, be updated.
Speaker 2
May your rigidity not steal destiny from you.
Look up.
You know my biggest fear?
Speaker 4
Is to be living in such a way that God knows you will not be fulfilled or you keep insisting.
May you have the boldness to do new.
Speaker 2
Things it is done in Jesus mighty name.
Speaker 3
Give Jesus a big dig.
Speaker 1
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Key Points:
God's Word is the ultimate agent of transformation, breaking barriers and renewing minds.
God's presence is not just for emotional experiences but for productivity and partnership with man.
Man is God's method and strategy for solving earthly problems, such as chaos, poverty, and injustice.
Not everything that happens is God's will; human factors can cause God's agenda to fail.
The presence of God empowers believers to be productive and excel in all areas of life.
Examples from Genesis, Exodus, and Joseph's life illustrate God's partnership with man.
Summary:
The transcription emphasizes that God's Word is a powerful force for transformation, reshaping lives and destinies. Speaker 3 teaches that God's presence, often misunderstood as merely emotional, is actually a spirit of productivity and partnership. In Genesis, God created man and placed him in His presence (Eden) to cultivate and multiply, showing that God's power is manifested through human alignment.
The speaker argues that God's method for addressing chaos and darkness is sending humans as "the light of the world" (Matthew 5:14). He critiques fatalism, stating that not all events are God's will; human failure can hinder divine plans, as seen in Moses' generation that died in the wilderness due to a denatured mindset. Using examples like Joseph, who prospered because God's presence was with him, the speaker urges believers to see God's presence as a source of wisdom and productivity in all spheres—not just church.
He challenges listeners to take responsibility for societal issues, like maternal mortality or failed systems, rather than attributing them to God's will. Ultimately, the message calls for a generation of leaders who partner with God to transform their nations, emphasizing that with God's presence, everything they do will prosper.
FAQs
The presence of God is redefined as the Spirit of productivity and wisdom, not just feelings or goosebumps. It enables everything a person does to succeed, as seen in Joseph’s life in Genesis 39.
God’s plans can fail if the human factor fails, such as when people lack interest, vision, or alignment. Examples include Moses interceding to change God’s mind and the wilderness generation that died due to a denatured mentality.
To illustrate that not everything is God’s will; some tragedies result from failed systems, like medical misdiagnosis. Believers must take responsibility and build structures instead of passively accepting events as divine.
Ruach means 'wind' and refers to the Spirit of God moving over chaotic waters. It shows that God’s presence alone doesn’t solve chaos; human partnership is needed to bring order and productivity.
Choosing a spouse requires alignment of thinking, not just appearance. God may change His mind about a partner based on growth, and assuming any random person is God’s will leads to trouble.
Fatalism is rejected; not everything that happens is God’s will. Believers must actively build structures and intervene, as shown in the story of saving a spiritual daughter from a lung infection through money and action.
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