The Polls Are Fake! Feat. Eduardo Bolsonaro Live in Studio
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The transcript is a satirical and critical commentary on modern politics, focusing on the erosion of trust in election systems and polling data. The host contrasts past, transparent voting methods like punch cards with today’s manipulated, media-driven processes, citing fake pollsters and biased data as tools of disinformation. He highlights how mainstream media and poll aggregators propagate skewed narratives, often without transparency or accountability. The discussion shifts to Brazil’s presidential election, where Flavio Bolsonaro faces off against Lula, emphasizing political persecution, family loyalty, and public demand for justice. The speaker critiques the narrative of "white privilege" and foreign blame, arguing instead that Brazil’s political struggles reflect systemic corruption and institutional failure. He champions independent, real-time data and viewer accountability, promoting fact-checking and alternative prediction tools like financial betting markets as more reliable than traditional polls. The show positions itself as a counter-narrative to mainstream media, offering transparency, real-time updates, and a commitment to free speech and truth. It concludes by urging audiences to engage directly with the political process, questioning institutional trust and demanding authenticity in both data and discourse.
remember simpler times remember punch card voting when you woke up on a wednesday morning
and actually knew who won the election when a pregnant chad was just an indentation on a piece
of paper now it's an emoji remember not knowing what an emoji was that was nice remember when
celebrities didn't tell you to go out and vote i'm drinking milk for good they just looked pretty
and kayaked for no reason when the only needles you had to worry about were filled with heroin
and not an unproven mrna injection those were the days punch card voting you had to show up
in person not like nowadays where you can mail it in you must have a lot of friends to send you all
all them letters
huh no i don't have any friends i wrote these letters myself you don't even have to exist at all
voices it counted unless you were in chicago the more things change punch card voting
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because we actually have eduardo bolsanero in the studio big old election coming up i hate to be the
guy like tell me about your brother but his brother is going to be the leader of brazil
um but they're but he's cool too they're both cool yes by the way we are going to stay wide
for the interview oh we are yeah well you didn't tell me that no we didn't also i miss uh that that
that intro boy that was an acid trip of a sketch wasn't it that's crazy dude and i miss uh square
bear so square if you're watching how he worked for us for he was supposed to be here for six
months and then a couple of years two years even though this wasn't what he had studied to do but
he was just you ever have one of those guys like ah he's nice to have around the office so let's
bring me coffees or uh go play a homosexual guy at one of the rallies remember beto's bears oh my
gosh well we were just like look look square bear we need someone to okay you're not going to like
what i'm about to tell you but and as soon as i said beto's bear she's like you're going to
send me and i have to be a queer at the beto thing aren't you i'm like yes he's like okay
i get it i am clearly the most bear-like fine look he lucked out it could have been talerico's twinks
so you know it could have then we'd have had to send you all right beautiful things uh today
uh remember i asked you to send me clips from the france riots uh with with good old-fashioned white
people and i told you i would show you everything that i get sent hey this is one for you then we
also have another fake pollster uh being outed and this is in a long line of polls so we actually do
have some early voting data now that would suggest something it doesn't change what you need to do
get out and vote but again the doomers who were out there are the ones who are going to be in the
polls two days ago oh they just kind of disappear it's like a like a psychic they make these
predictions and then they just hope you don't like ah is it uh is it uh barry is it uh bob is it uh
bradford you're like that's it like see i knew your husband was dead yeah captain morgan ceo how
are you fantastic good how are you i'm you're a little under the weather i've never been this
sick and it never gets that bad these but i have twins and they're in school why do you just blame
them and it's just what i'm just saying one gets sick and then the other and it's just it's just
to the reign of the plague yeah but we're able to fight it off pretty effectively so
i'm grateful i do have a question for you if you were contacted by a pollster right now
would you answer uh would you answer them and if you did what would you say because a lot of people
think these polls are obviously skewed because republicans conservatives don't answer so here
you go you're a pretty big sample size watching right now let me know and uh of course we'll
probably cover that next week monday at 11 where we always are when you hear this you know who it is
yeah you do yeah i descended from his testicles this is pops crowder how are you sir i'm great
you know you play me on with that gangster rap we have brazilian royalty on today so we could
have cleaned with favela rap we could have cleaned it up a little bit first off favela is a
they're a horrible place god has forsaken those places you don't want to label the whole country
they have a brazilian version of uh gangster rap maybe they do i don't know if they have it but
the point is not everyone lives in favelas it's just the blacks who are free to slaves and like
you guys have to get the hell out of the cities that was it there were no reparations there it's
like ah all right for now you're free but go to the hills the hills have eyes for you
it's gonna be a great show hopefully he's still in the green room
it's just a dust cloud where he used to be oh and pops i forgot where where should people be
going to uh what you have going on there oh they they nixed my uh my plug but shout out
dot us shout out dot us there you go sorry i asked them to you asked me to nix it yeah we'll
talk about it later it doesn't lend itself to retail plugs
and gerald and gerald thinks that the crab from uh little mermaid is a lobster and he argued for
20 minutes before the show i did there was almost an actual fight that it is break up no it's not
it is clearly a tailless lobster
i'm trying to get ahead of it now do your kids have to watch that with your commentary
but i'm just saying it's a very confusing idea to say like that looks like a lobster not a crab
i get it no i i get it i get it as a kid i wasn't that sophisticated you know because it's a cartoon
but but you're not a kid now gerald
you must leave childish things behind the rare good point from noodles
plus it's not fair he's colorblind and so
there are so many variables that play the color what played into this color the iq okay let's go
to the first i don't think they have lips either gerald i want you to watch this here there's a
here's a a muslim woman remember rooftop koreans now typically their actions were reserved for um
the colors but it's changed now where i would imagine you're going to see more rooftop koreans
uh if there are too many uh islamic folks like this lady who's mad about a korean convenience store
i think she's mad about a korean convenience store i think she's mad about a korean convenience store
haram that cell phones were haram haram
cover your hair lady yeah you yeah you are whore um
it's intentional oh no did i did i hurt your terrorist feelings
oh no i guess you better get out and not drive somewhere
you know the koreans don't care they don't care at all it will give no it's correct now it uh looks
it looks like this is a common thing right this is the this is the fake victim culture today
and islamic followers muslims people call i just say islam so you remember because it's scarier
uh muslims are staging some protests in korea and they're saying that they're not going to
in front of these stores and um that seems to be obviously resulting in but
oh wait a minute what's happening we have it what's happening
oh boy
oh there's the protest
oh geez
oh
,
just reporting who would have seen that coming i mean it's just the koreans do not care zero
tolerance they're looking for an excuse to get on the rooftops they're just give me a reason
my deuce hasn't fired for a while that's the problem is that the korean
uh charles bronson death wish just also indiscriminately shot innocent people
yeah so it's like wait wait what's going on here i don't even know what's going on here
i don't even know what's going on here hey you punk where i'm going to cut you puke
hey you punk where i'm going to cut you puke
hey you punk where i'm going to cut you puke mandem
mandem
mandem oh you have too much aftershave
it's clean cut kid all right we have more
it's clean cut kid all right we have more
it's clean cut kid all right we have more and here's the thing though one thing i
and here's the thing though one thing i
and here's the thing though one thing i do appreciate about the koreans they're
They're very family-oriented, very traditional.
Unlike the Western, you know, this whole field now that people often say,
sorry to say it, but sex work is real work.
It's not.
And at least Koreans, like, they keep that off to the side.
They do.
And we do the same thing.
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today we are responding to the folks who
answered the call yesterday I actually
put out a call because the France
protests were notably brown notably a
brown notably foreign and that's why I
issued this challenge I've looked far
and wide I've searched high and low to
find any clip of these riots in France
where there's a group of people you'll
find individual white people right
you'll find some individual folks with
white guilt but a group of people large
enough where you see exclusively French
flags or a group of people large enough
where you see what we would typically
view as Frenchman or French Z's I haven't
found any so if they exist please send
me you can at reply me on X s Crowder or
send me a direct message on X if you can
and we will run it tomorrow the closest
thing that you can find so we did that
and you know what many of you did send
in some clips so I am going to show you
all of them in a montage and I guess I
stand corrected
there's one
close-up music is fine on the scepter
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this is a YouTube dubbing
we're not fighting for justice just for us
but to everybody every people what do
you want why are you protesting what's
happening we're protesting because the
condition in the high school is why are
you guys so mad and protesting because
the president is the racist a far-right
fringe group marched Monday evening in
downtown Lyon even though the Rome
Prefecture had announced a ban on
demonstrations from 6 p.m. to 9 p.m. in
the city center the identitarian
activists initially mingled with a rally
supporting police and shopkeepers
affected by the weekend's looting okay
so just to recap we had presented to you
all of the footage that we could find
online of note and the left said this is
actually a groundswell this is actually
an organic uprising from the French
people including John Stewart saying
these are French people it has nothing
to do with migrants these are not
foreigners and I said look if there's
something that I'm missing please send
me the examples of native-born Frenchman
French women French Z's all right and
what you sent me was a couple close-up
shots of a lone cellist and violinist
mm-hmm protest of some white
firefighters but from three weeks ago
have nothing to do with these protests a
close-up shot of three people with a
white guy wearing a keffiyeh ah then a
shot of all non-white people except for
one reporter and then right-wing
protesters peacefully protecting shop
owners identitarians to be fair yeah
they call them this one's pretty clear
you I like that it doesn't exist now
isn't that crazy how do you have people
like John Stewart people like John
Oliver ABC NBC CNN CBS MSNBC all saying
no no no no no no this is this Reuters
ever this is a this is not foreigners is
about gas prices and that's the best
that all of you can send me all right
I'm gonna go with their mostly Islamic
foreigners how about that now Paris is
shutting down to be clear these are the
consequences the Louvre or say and NFL
fan events yeah so they're doing you
know a game over there okay they do some
international games now and they're
shutting all these down along with some
other attractions this weekend in fear
of protests you know the ones that are
coming from the native-born French
speakers even the Mona Lisa is getting a
long weekend and will be relaxing instead
in Spain
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always a professional she did however
uh make sure that her post was secure
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magic eye posters where if you squint
long enough well then you'd need some
eye wash and it turns out that the
museum is really just one big giant sex
Club as seen by their less than reputable
security
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watching this right
oh he turned the TV off what did I sign
up for Friday for those we we try and
fit them in every Friday masturbating
bear and Chippendale's Turtle
I specifically hid that from Gerald he
did I was like you you know I said you're
not going to guess the last one he's
like is it uh and he guessed a bunch of
things that you know like like lobsters
it was not a lot exactly exactly thank you
thank you we all agree no see that's
out of context that is out of contact
progress meant to confuse people all
right you have to explain call back to
Eduardo yeah a little bit it'll make
more sense well yeah I can call you back
no it's not I have code or ID
um okay let's get to these pollsters
remember people were telling you oh there
was a bunch of early voting data that
showed you that Democrats this was going
to be a blue wave and we said actually
people are
extrapolating from numbers that aren't
there that don't really exist yet that
brings us to this entire installment
like pollsters another fake pollster has
been out how many times do we have to go
through this let me ask you what are
polls what are polls supposed to be and
how do polls exist in reality now they
used to be used to reflect public
sentiment but at least in the last
decade it seems that they have more often
than not been used to direct public
sentiment yeah and the media the same
reason with the set all the entire media
right everyone who told you none of
these protests in France they're there
they're they're not foreigners they're
not migrants they're not asking any
questions about these polls and we'll
give you the rebuttal here but this
media and you can't despise them enough
they're feeding you pro-democrat slanted
illegitimate polling data numbers and
drawing conclusions hoping to
demoralize you and this country this
week new poll numbers show Republicans
facing an uphill battle to keep control
of Congress in the Senate race the poll
shows 60 percent of independent likely
voters plan to support Democrat James
Tallarico the latest poll from the New
York Times and Siena University shows
Democrats have the advantage over
Republicans a new poll could be cause
for concern for Republicans what is that
CNN poll numbers just out with less than
two weeks before the midterm elections
and they are very bad news for President
Trump and his fellow Republicans when
registered voters are included in the
poll Dr L Syed opens up a seven point
lead the exclusive Emerson College KSN
news poll finds 45 of Kansas voters
support Democrat Adam Hamilton and 43
percent support incumbent Republican
Roger Marshall well turns out that two
major pollsters who are being utilized
by mainstream media and included in the
Aggregate numbers that you're seeing.
Again, fake.
It's time for Poll Watchers.
What an awful program.
You birthed it.
What are you talking about?
You're here.
You're looking in a mirror.
You know I'm going to be like you.
I turned out just like him.
My dad made a stinger just the other day.
So here's one of them.
SoCal Strategies.
And again, this is a pollster that has been used by aggregators like. like 50 Plus One, Vote Hub.
They went dark.
They disappeared after their accuracy was called into question.
So let me give you an example here of one of their polls from September 13th.
It had Paxton at 45 and Tallarico at 50, had Abbott at 52, Hinojosa at 44.
The second part makes some sense.
The first part makes no sense in the same poll.
Now, remember, the same place in the 2024 poll had Kamala at 48 and Trump at 45.
Ah.
Yeah.
Nailed it.
Then we look, Wedgwood polls, Tuesday, closed their shop after they were revealed to be
totally fake.
They were used to hide.
Yeah, totally fake.
And they were included in aggregators out there.
So I'm saying you could just say, well, that's one poll.
Sure.
But a lot of people look at whether it's the RCP average.
New York Times is very often used Vote Hub, Nate Silver, and Wedgwood was used by these
aggregators.
Hold on, just pause.
Wedgwood?
Yeah.
Did nobody stop to ask questions like driving a wedge between these voters?
I think it's kind of hard.
Wedgwood, it's a weird name.
Yeah.
And they just closed up shop after 50 plus one question they're polling.
They were like, you know, we don't need to do this.
What's your response?
Closed.
It's like, hey, we noticed some problems with Wedgwood.
It's just a dust-shaped cloud where they used to be and a Wedgwood-shaped hole in the wall.
They had El Sayed at 53, Mike Rogers at 47.
No, that's not completely unreasonable.
The problem is that we know these people weren't using real data, and then that gets panicked.
They inherited, right?
Here's the thing.
The problem today is when you have one person get something wrong, okay, sure, that happens.
The beauty of social media used to be that you could correct that.
The problem is that a lot of these social media platforms still rely on what they view as
reputable aggregators, and they don't do vetting.
So the small lie becomes amplified as the truth to more people than just the platform of that
small liar.
Does that make sense?
And we all saw that in 2024 with the Iowa poll that came out.
I can't remember the lady's name who put that out, but it was-
Was it 14.7?
It was like a double-digit swing in the polling, and everybody ran with that.
Everybody then started extrapolating what that could mean nationwide if really this
was true, and it's like, okay, now they've just gotten a little more sophisticated, I
guess.
Now, here is a really pretty bad one.
Median strategies.
Again, check the references.
We make the links available every single show.
It's right there in the description, collage B.
So August this summer, they were revealed to be fake, obviously, and they were favoring
people like Karen Bass, a DSA candidate.
Francesca Hong, remember that?
Yeah.
So when Median Wedgewood were caught, they put out almost identical statements accusing
those, first off, questioning them, and then they excuse it.
This is always like, no, no, it's good.
And then they go, well, actually, the fake polling, it was an experiment.
Oh.
Yeah.
It was just an experiment.
Right.
It was the Jamie Kennedy polling experiment.
And people are like, yeah, but if that happens and people believe it, it could actually affect
the outcome.
Yes.
The outcome of elections.
It's like, yeah, you know, but we were just experimenting, like college.
No.
Yeah.
They're not experimenting at all.
It was definitely propaganda.
And when they got caught, they're like, ah, it's a social experiment.
Bye.
Right.
It's like you, C. Matheson, going in there and nobody, and she's just like, no, I'm a
tenured professor.
And I was just kidding.
It was a social experiment.
But mine was.
No.
No.
You didn't go and take a professor's job and get paid for it for a year.
No, I know.
But I could have.
And then get caught and then say that.
The funny thing is, I could have.
Yes.
But C. Matheson, the lady character that I play, who wrote this peer-reviewed and approved
article, Fat Pride in the Era of Trump as a Form of Self-Care.
You can go watch it.
It was during COVID.
I had to do a whole digital seminar and I just put on a stupid sweater and spoke with
a lisp.
And they're like, oh, my gosh, you're the greatest person I've ever spoken to.
So brave.
I'm like, how do you like me?
I hate me.
But immediately, the troll job was, can you believe they did it?
Immediately.
Immediately.
Can you believe they believed us?
These people did it until somebody caught.
They caught them and then vanished.
Also, C. Matheson, not too different from Ann Seltzer.
That's true.
Oh, that's the pollster from Iowa.
To be fair, I didn't model it after Ann Seltzer.
Oh, nearly.
Here's an early voting update, though, too.
So in contrast, the polls, remember, you were told, I believe it was Wednesday, we did that
segment.
People said, oh, early voting tells you a whole bunch.
And we're like, no, no, it's actually not really giving you that much insight.
So then, just on Wednesday, right, they were talking about how Democrat primary voters
were vastly outnumbering.
Republicans, because they were taking these primary numbers.
We explained to you how a lot of them would have been unaffiliated.
Right.
Well, now we have a clearer picture that Republicans have overtaken Democrats in daily early voting.
So here you go.
And you can see it.
And yeah, by the way, Democrats are plummeting.
Yeah.
You'll have access to all this real time data, you know, on election night.
Is it lotto with Crowder dot com slash election 2026.
So what we do here.
Yes, we have Chip and Dale's turtle.
There's a lot of there's a lot.
The silliness now, hopefully, I treat you like you're an adult and you can go, well, that's a joke.
Then when we have an electoral map or we actually have real time data and graphs and charts, we say, hey, you can hold us to this.
These are claims that we are making.
We provide you with references to fact check us.
So right now it's swinging quite a bit.
And I would say, I mean, I've never I've never bet a dime in my life.
I'm really close to to just betting on on Paxton.
I don't think that maybe I'll eat my words.
I could, but could go either way.
I don't think that.
Valerico is going to win so big right now on that, too, by the way.
So on on one front, you just mentioned go check out the website.
Like I would stack it up against literally the only job that these people have is a website companies out there that literally all they do is put out a web.
I would put our website against anybody's.
Yes, it's as far as the data that we have, how easy it is to use, how clear it is.
We send it to one of our sponsors like, holy crap.
Yeah, that's an amazing way.
You guys do a show and this.
Yeah, it's like, yes, I do.
And it stems and chip and a great team from what a therapist.
Would call a rage a holism just because that night on election 2020 when Arizona 2020 when Arizona was called with such a small portion of the vote in when I was going out this this cannot be right.
There's no way that this can be correct by Fox, no less, but I had no way to do anything about it.
I felt you have those moments where you just feel really helpless.
You have a lot of that as a parent when life happens and you can't protect your kids from everything.
I felt so helpless.
Like there's got to be something going.
On here.
There is something that is being missed and I had no way to do it.
And I said, we're not we're not going to go through that again.
Next national election.
We are going to be able.
We are going to make sure that we don't have to watch someone else and use their data while we provide commentary and have guests.
We are going to have it all in house or we can trust it.
We can control it.
We can be accurate with it.
That's the reason that we've done it.
And everyone here has done a really, really good job.
I can take zero credit for it.
You know, I brought them in, assembled the team, but they are doing unbelievable work.
So go check it out.
And yeah.
We hope that.
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What are your predictions?
Steve Crowder, you know, he works out.
Fact check.
True.
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I just want to add to it.
So you'll get less accurate data, but you will laugh far less and you will drink far less
if you watch any other show.
I just love that when Gerald calls it ultimately.
I just think that's so beautiful.
You know?
Yeah.
I was so hesitant because I'm like, ha ha.
We don't just have like the data that everybody else.
Remember that conversation we had regarding Georgia?
Yeah.
It was a commercial break.
And I walked back and we had a data analyst and a few people.
They said, look, this is what we're seeing.
We're seeing in Georgia right now.
And they explained it all to me.
I said, look, I don't have time to go through all of it.
How confident are you in this call?
Because no one else has called it.
They said, well into the 90s.
You know, there could be an anomaly.
But barring some kind of an anomaly that occurs nowhere else in nature, we are confident with
this.
I said, okay.
I went out and made the call and we were correct.
And we did that several times.
And so that's because of the job that they do.
I can't thank them enough.
And we do that here for you.
Because I did you feel that?
Did you feel that helplessness with Arizona that night?
Did you feel that helplessness with the Piper?
in georgia yeah it was one of those moments that i'll never forget where i walked out said we we
can't have that again we cannot have to watch someone else or wait for decision desk and then
if they're wrong have no ability to refute it right to check it out to fact check never again
well you know the fake polls they are what they are and they need to be dismissed but
even the legitimate polls in an era of trump i don't think they can be fixed i don't think it's
possible to get it right and you know they hammer us for free speech they drive us underground
then they come back and pull us for our free speech we're not going to respond you just put
that poll out to the audience they can't find us and maybe after trump it'll settle back in but
they i think they're precluded from getting it right they should just never exist again honestly
the the prediction markets are a much better way of understanding where people are on this stuff
there's probably some flaws with that too you can manipulate there are things with larger bets
depending on smaller races you know less money going into them
you
but that's one of the things that i've wanted to kind of showcase this year is like okay well
where are people putting their money right because saying yeah i'm gonna go vote for this person
means nothing yeah you could be trolling you could be 100 honest or you could just not plan
on voting and not want to sound like that right but when you put your dollar on the line that's
really what you're saying i really do think x is going to happen yeah and to be clear by the way
i've never once encouraged you to sports bet i never have i i recommend against it yeah uh but
i do use them as a reference point to give a
to get a pretty good snapshot as to what is going on in the real world and cal she is
the one that reflects that most accurately i know poly market who we used to use they've they've had
some issues yeah um without getting into it we switched we switched cal sheet ends to be on
purpose and uh if you have an addictive personality you just shouldn't bet on anything it's just this
just to be ever you bet on whether or not you have an addictive personality i mean well that's just
that's easy money that's a sure thing relapse it's a sure thing it's so if you are a gambling addict
it's not gambling if it's a sure thing that's bad advice all right so sunday brasil is going to
uh head to the polls to decide who will be their next president now remember bolsonaro was president
at one point in time and now the incumbent is the socialist lula da silva who jailed the previous
president bolsonaro in an election that many people would question and now bolsonaro's son
flavio bolsonaro
is running and it looks very much like he could win but to be fair it's anyone's game at this point
brazil's future within the margin of error ahead of sunday's presidential runoff most of the latest
polls put the far right's flavio bolsonaro ahead of left-wing incumbent luiz inacio lula da silva
a lead that's narrowed after last weekend's acrimonious debate we'll ask whether the nearly
81 year old lula's lost his luster of old whether brazilians are ready to overlook the attempted
conviction of 45 year old uh bolsonaro's father after he was voted out last time in 2022 and uh
how brazil has changed in the uh four years since and i will tell you this you know we've talked
about how uh conservative doesn't really mean what it means here in the united states anywhere
else the closest that i have found obviously uh poland would be one and uh brazilian conservatives
now their laws are different and of course they don't have the right to own guns there but uh in
in my experience and i think we're waiting on him when he's uh coming in um they are the closest
that i found so please welcome to the studio his his brother and i don't tell you i don't say that
as a pejorative i say it as a we we have the brother eduardo bolsonaro
miss brother bolsonaro how are you sir
i hate doing that because i know right it's like it's like
clint howard's been on the show people like can you tell me about your brother ron howard
you know it'd be like if spielberg had a brother named doug but in this case you've been a friend
of the show for a very long time first off how are you feeling are you excited are you nervous
and have you been in contact with everyone there you know obviously in brazil i think i'm both like
we are excited with the possibility to elect my brother and uh i would like to highlight for us
that the leader of this movement is arrested not only censored there's
no
my brother when he read a letter of my father in his social media the judge alexandre morais
forbidding my brother to visit my father for the next 30 days which means that only now after the
first round my brother is backing again having contact with my father but still my brother is
on the second round the wife of my father was elected a senator then my other brother was
elected a senator another not we have we are a lot another brother was elected congressman
and the brother was elected a congressman and the brother was elected a congressman
my father my father my uncle was elected uh also a congressman so basically everybody would name
bolsonaro people just love and the movement is getting bigger and bigger unbelievable well let
me ask you by the way the best place for people to follow you is uh at bolsonaro sp on x let me ask
you why should before we get to a few clips why should americans tell americans why they should
care and actually i guess that's that's your camera right there sorry i was pointing to mine
why should they care or take an interest in the election in brazil what does it mean for people
here stateside
there's a lot of things first if brazil become a venezuela we are talking about 50 million people
live in brazil guess for what country they would go right so it would be the biggest immigration
crisis ever also because brazil is number one or in the top of the world when you talk about
exporting iran food and also human resources uh which means that uh in the case of a war
it's very important that you have a side you have on your side brazil just like as we did in the
second world war and a lot of people are saying that brazil is the best place to live in brazil
so i think it's important to think about that because i think brazil is the best place to live in
brazil i think it's important to think about that because brazil is the best place to live in brazil
We have so much in common, but unfortunately, we had a president that hates America.
Lula is anti-America, so he's always trying to bring Brazil to the side of China.
Yeah, and that's a big concern, obviously, and Donald Trump has made some tremendous steps, I think, that a lot of people have missed regarding boxing out China.
Can you explain to people here, because in the States, they maybe don't understand how elections work in Brazil?
Because this is confusing.
I've heard people go, like, didn't they already have the election?
You know, they don't know how it works exactly.
It's not like here.
So, first of all, every vote counts, which means that the president, imagine here in the United States, like sometimes people say, oh, Trump should not go to California because California is blue.
So in Brazil, it's not like that.
You literally have to go everywhere in the country.
And we are the fifth largest country in the world.
And then you do not have a primary.
So everybody run in the first round.
And then the two best positions, they go to the second round, to a runoff.
This is what we are having now.
So this Sunday we will have the runoff, so it's the end of the election.
In the first one, your brother got, I think it was 3 million more votes?
Yes.
Yeah, about that.
And everybody was expecting, because by the polls, as you can imagine,
also happens here, all of the polls, most of the polls,
they were saying that Lula was going to be in the first round.
And what happened was the opposite.
This is like a CNN poll saying that, I don't know,
Biden is going to win or Hillary is going to win,
And at the end of the day, Trump won.
So this is what happened in the first round.
And the challenge for Lula in the second round is because there is no order left to make candidates to support him in the second round.
It's just him by himself, which means that if we finish the first round ahead, it's basically almost impossible for Lula to win this election, this runoff.
So, well, I was going to ask you that, because in the first one, how many candidates were there who would have taken votes from Bolsonaro versus Da Silva?
Because that's what people are going to be looking at.
You know, here we always have like kind of spoilers like Jill Stein, but, you know, she's retarded.
I would assume they're somewhat retarded.
We have our retarded show.
You have your retards.
We even have our Joe Biden look for Lula.
Yeah, no, we have some clips here.
So would you say that there are more people pulling from Lula in the first round than Bolsonaro?
And so you think the prospects are good?
Yeah, because if you look, for example, you had my brother Flavio first, Lula second.
Then the third is a right-wing candidate, center-right, Ronaldo Caiado.
Then you have Renan Santos, which is pretty central, but a lot of younger people follow
Renan, and usually they do not like the way that the government is doing right now.
So, likely 50-50 or more to Flavio.
And then, position number five, we had Zema, which is also a right-wing governor of the
state of Minas Gerais.
So, as I said, there is no one on the left.
And some of these guys, for example, Ronaldo Caiado and Zema. Would you expect them to go to Bolsonaro?
They are already supporting my brother.
Okay, nice.
And also had Cury. Cury is like central, center-right, so-so.
But, you know, there is no one saying, I'm a socialist, I'm going to support Lula.
Yeah.
This is not reality.
I mean, I've seen a couple of, like, women with nose rings online, but that's about it.
I haven't seen anyone.
So, based on that, it would seem like the margin should be wider for Bolsonaro,
which is interesting to me because the polls have it basically as a coin toss right now.
Yeah. The polls usually, they're saying that one, Flava is going to win by one or two points.
But these are the same pools that in the first round said that Lula would be the winner.
So imagine for you Americans, like CNN is saying that it's tied and Trump is going to win by one point.
So imagine in reality how things are.
So that's why we are excited.
Well, actually, and I wanted to ask you this because I saw, I think we have an overlay here.
Why was Lula trying to blame Meta?
He tried to say it was Meta's fault that the Bolsonaro's had success?
This is the essence of these people.
Like they never blame themselves.
and they don't have the capability to look inside and do a honest reflection about it so they want
blame someone else so now they are blaming meta because of that but i see what are you saying are
you saying that meta favored yeah i would have thought meta was working in favor of flavio okay
it's unbelievable but yeah someone have to be blamed by them but uh they are really this is a
good thing because it shows that they are ready to lose the election and they are preparing the
narrative for the next four years so in the next four years they'll say we are defending the
democracy meta and the yankees are in favor of flavio and it wasn't democracy what happened in
2026 yeah it's basically like i'm so tired of people in south america in general latin america
blaming the united states it's like get your shit together it's not always our fault no it's not
always a good question related to that so uh obviously you hopefully they will just be
complaining for the next four years i've heard some scenarios where they may try to say there
was foreign interference and therefore so can you explain that scenario just to the audience a
little bit because i think they've actually come out of it i think they've actually come out of it
a little bit because i think they've actually come out of it i think they've actually come out of
it and said that that might be something they're going to do yes first we have to remark only that
brazilians the people of brazil that quick size us they are still coming here right famous actors
hollywood actors like wagner mora living in california saying that the democracy in brazil
is under risk but they're living here right why did they not move to cuba i don't know who that
is but i do know at least like 50 brazilians with the last with the name wagner or mura
let's see like mura rocha silva yeah is that like john wagner is that how
super common name yeah super common name olivier is basically a portuguese name we have we have a
lot so they're planning on rendering this they're yeah like he was saying saying it's not a legitimate
election and maybe using a different process yeah in the beginning they were creating a narrative
trying to cancel the election uh basically what happened in romania if you know you know but
in 2024 when kyle in georgia school writing candidate won the first round two days before
the runoff the supreme court of romania they canceled the election telling that oh we had
foreign intervention so in that case it was russia intervention they claim it so they did that new
election without georgia school and then when the liberal won okay now this election was valid well
it's yeah more legitimate if you have no opposing candidate true yeah but uh they just missed a case
that they all actually they opened the investigation to see if us was interfering
yeah in the brazilian election but they dismissed this case but you have some other things around
but uh i think they they they're considering do not go through this way trying to handle the
elections because uh it would be clear fail they will not prevail with this way it would be very
bad for them too big to rig because here's actually a clip of what the streets of brazil
looked like uh for bolsonaro on wednesday and billy mitchell comes to the speakers
now to be fair it does seem like uh the brazilian people they do love any excuse to get in the
streets and party like it's not that hard to get brazilians out of the streets
wow that's a big crowd you're like that's a tuesday yeah you know that even we posted this
is not a carnival yeah why don't you make sure that they're not going to misunderstand the video
should should the women wear songs hey of course you just say so but my friend daisy made is on the
streets there i have to remark that this is like in our new york this is like in our california is
in the region where the left is strongest yeah and then the amount of people going to the streets i
was talking with my brother previously and he was telling me look the people that i'm seeing now on
the streets of brazil it's even bigger than what we had in 2022 with my with our father running
and it's just unbelievable yeah it is it is
and that's that's really let's be honest that's the only thing that curtails the corruption is
if the corrupt fear enough of the population holding them to account because brazil doesn't
necessarily necessarily have the same checks and balances on the institutions as we know with the
supreme court that's been a real problem that was going to be my question i've never over many years
ever seen an election in brazil where corruption wasn't alleged against either side all the time
early and often does it carry any weight anymore i mean it's all you hear about yeah i mean that
is a good question is it is it pretty much the same thing i mean it's all you hear about
is it pretty much always assumed there's a little bit of corruption in brazil yeah a lot
the son of the current president is in spain and he cannot he does not go back to brazil because
he's fearing be arrested because he's involved in a scandal that stole more than one billion dollars
from the retired people yeah a billion dollars this is only one scam
these guys are professional it's not that much people sometimes joke they say no if they if they
governor if they take the administration of brazil they're going to be arrested
of the Sahara Desert, the Sahara Desert will be out of sand.
Yeah.
I think this is real.
Yeah.
This is very, very good in that.
Yeah, it is one of those things where it just seems like we just kind of assume that it's all.
You wonder what's the point.
Yeah, but it does seem like now that Brazil, the people have had enough of it.
Actually, here is a clip I wanted you to, or wait, is this the clip?
You know what?
I want to go to the debate clip because this was a pretty interesting.
It's very different from the United States, our debate style.
And it's certainly different from like, was it the Moncton debates or is it the Moncton debates?
Moncton is a place in the Maritime, sorry, where they're all sitting there like,
ah, you are out of order, sir.
And they're all, I said good day to you.
In Brazil, it's just like, I'm going to shoot you.
You're like, you're going to shoot me?
And the guy just comes and is like, stay on your side.
Ah, I'm going to punch.
So here we go.
Here is a clip from Monday's debate between your brother and Lula.
And I will say this, it's not really fair because, you know,
you guys are all a very good looking family, tall.
And Lula, yeah, Lula looks like a Jim Henson Muppet.
I wanted you to explain what you did with $134 million.
Was it to help your little brother to get out of Brazil?
The only explanation I have is for you to stay on my side, Lula.
Let's talk together.
I don't want to stay close to you.
Stay calm, Lula.
I don't want to die.
I'm not a guy who comes from a distance.
Stay calm.
I'm not a guy who comes from a distance with a militiaman.
Lula, please, don't show up so that everyone can follow you.
I'm not going to stay far because my wallet can get stolen.
It's because of my wallet.
He's going to steal my wallet.
What I love is the money.
Did you see his rally that someone stole his ring?
Oh, really?
Really.
He was like saying hello to the people and hit the crowd, you know, socialist crowd.
And then someone got his ring, his alliance, and took it.
Oh, my God.
Milay was posting about that.
The president of Argentina, Javier Milay, was posting about that.
Did he say, afuera?
Yeah.
But I love how the moderator is like telling a Brazilian crowd of people that they can't react.
It's like telling a robin it can't sing.
I mean, when American fighters go to Brazil, you know, see, my friend Chael Sonnen went and fought in Brazil,
and they were chanting.
I don't know what you could tell me what it was.
They were chanting, we will kill you.
We will kill you.
What's the chant they say?
Do you know what I'm talking about?
I don't know what it literally translates to, but he had to be helicopter flown out because he had insulted Brazil a little bit.
Who was that?
Chael Sonnen.
He was a fighter who insulted Brazil because he fought Anderson Silva.
And he was like, I heard them.
They were sad.
And then someone in Germany said, they were chanting, we will kill you.
We will kill you.
They could say that, but in a positive way.
Like CNN in Afghanistan after the Taliban take over Kabul.
They're singing Death to America, but they're friendly.
Right, right.
As soon as she says, don't react, they get louder.
She's like, hey, don't react.
And they're like, hey!
Remember Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu coach?
Yeah, yeah.
We would win matches just because he wouldn't stop arguing with the rest.
Like, you do that, she do mother's milk.
He was like a Brazilian, my cousin Vinny.
You can't put the face in the breast.
Like, what are you talking about?
The refs hated him.
So, what was the other thing?
Oh, you know what?
Here, I do want to get your take on this because Americans don't know a whole lot about the elections in Brazil.
And I understand that.
Same thing, you know, with Canada when I try to explain to them because I have a basic understanding of Canadian politics and the parliamentary system.
So, it's always interesting to me when you have American journalists.
And American American shows trying to paint a picture of it to their audience.
Here's John Oliver specifically talking about, and by the way, we don't like him here.
He's English, but he has a show in America, right?
They always come here to actually make their make their their money.
Here he's talking about your brother and the election.
The truth is, Flavio still has a very real chance to win this election, which is not good.
He's already vowed to pardon his father if elected.
And while the Supreme Court's ruled that pardons cannot be used to protect a political ally.
It is worth knowing the Brazil's next president will have the opportunity to appoint at least three and maybe four of the Supreme Court's 11 justices.
I'm not a big fan of the Bolsonaros, which is about as much of an understatement as me saying the movie Dark Horse probably won't win an Oscar.
But I also think they're a family clearly out for revenge.
And unfortunately, the current US administration appears very happy to help them get it.
All I'll say is hopefully next Sunday, Lula's message of defiance and Jim Lunges.
We'll end up gaining a lot more traction than Flavio's fear mongering and flagrant stati issues.
So I can imagine what you would say, but they say revenge.
It's like, well, hold on a second.
Is it revenge if your father, a political opponent, was jailed and the courts were abused and a judge was found to be corrupt?
Were they literally just tried to eliminate political opposition?
He doesn't explain any of that.
He just says the Bolsonaros are coming for revenge and they're going to get Supreme Court justices.
So how do you react to that and how it's coming?
Looks like the Brazilian people are supporting that.
So.
But it's not really.
It's not really a revenge.
It's a justice.
Come on.
When we have another constitution, just as you have here, the possibility of the president, the right of the president to pardon some people.
And this is not to give a privilege to the family.
This is for fixing some injustice that happened through the courts.
And what we are seeing in Brazil is not different from the lawfare that we have here.
Usually, I also explain to an American, look, you want to understand how is our life in Brazil?
It's just like the life of President Donald Trump if he did not get reelected in 2024.
This is our life.
So, my father is in jail.
I'm very proud of that because all of these guys that jailed my father, they cannot go to the streets.
People hate them.
They need private jets.
They need, like, isolated places to have their vacations because they are not popular.
What they are doing is clearly a political persecution.
And my brother is going to be elected to fix it.
And not only my father and my family, but we are talking about more than 2,000 Brazilians that need this pardon.
It's not something that we want to do to give a white privilege to the family.
It's something that is fair.
Well, I don't really want to think Brazil.
I don't really think white privilege.
It's a very mixed standard.
Very mixed people.
But they try to import this to Brazil, you know?
White privilege?
Yes.
All of this narrative they see here, they try to bring to Brazil.
Yes.
No, that can't work.
They try.
How do you import white privilege when you have the mixed race ladies who are always, like, most beautiful in the world?
But they don't care what you see.
Sometimes you see a man and they try to obligate you to call these as women.
They don't care about the reality.
But that doesn't work in Brazil, does it?
Not really.
There aren't many people in Brazil like, I'm sorry, what are your pronouns you like?
I don't think that happens.
The men are very obvious in thongs.
It doesn't.
Yes.
The men wear the.
So, Eduardo, your father's under house arrest now, right?
Yes.
Yes.
How long has he actually been out of the.
Since the beginning of the year.
Okay.
He was three or four months in a regular jail, in the military police jail, and then for six months in house arrest.
So-so.
Okay.
Yeah.
I would imagine he was probably, and I don't mean because he's a criminal, but probably pretty popular in jail.
I would imagine no one messed with him in jail, right?
No.
People are really.
People are really excited, expecting that Flavio is going to be elected, and then he can release my father.
But even before the inauguration, which will happen January 6th, even before that, we have the opportunity to, through the courts, cancel all of the trial of my father.
So, Supreme Court said that after the election, they are going to take back again the case of my father and look if they can annul that.
Can you explain, too, because we've gone through this, but for people, Americans watching.
because this does matter. You are looking into, if you want to know immigration, the glimpse
into the future would be France, would be the UK. As far as lawfare, I think Brazil would probably
be the closest thing people could look to. Explain to folks what it is that your father was jailed
for, what the Supreme Court did. What was his great crime? Just because people right now might
go, well, what, did he shoot up a school? Usually I invite people to think about it.
Look, imagine that now you are the president of Brazil, right? So you're going to wait until when
you are no longer the president anymore of the country. And then before you leave the chair of
president, you are going to appoint the chief of the army, the Navy, and the other forces,
appointed, you are going to appoint that the suggestion of your opponent. So Lula said,
Bolsonaro, please, can you appoint these guys? And Bolsonaro, when he was sitting president,
he said, okay, okay. In the transition, he appointed the leader of the army and the Navy
from Brazil. So he appointed the leader of the army and the other forces. So Lula said,
and on January 8th of 2023, you are going to send 1,000 people unarmed to Brasilia in a Sunday
during vacations, that is whole January's vacation in Brazil, to do a coup d'etat. In a moment that
the pretend dictator, which it is my father, is actually in Disney World, literally in Orlando,
United States. No guns, no shots, no armed people, dictator is out of the country.
I'm sorry. It sounds like the Supreme Court is trying to cover their butts. I mean,
after the election, we'll bring the case back up. Isn't saying we're going to correct an obvious
rule. I'm sorry. I mean,
it's saying, hey, if the wind blows a different direction, we may want to look at it and be on
the right side of that. And so to that, I would say, I don't care what they rule at that point.
No course. They need to go. They got to go. This is why it is that it's very hard to explain for
a foreigner what's going on in Brazil, because usually with your head, you think, oh, there is
a constitution. There is a law. No, my friend, there is no law. There is no constitution. And
the persecution is politically, when you change the political scenario, the persecution also change.
Yeah, this is what we are going to see the miracle happening and people. And there is obviously
corruption in politics in the United States where people will talk about lobbyists, things like that.
And that is true. But I think people here don't fully understand the corruption of either elected
officials or members of the Supreme Court. Use this analogy in the United States. Right. People
will say the cops are terrible and the police force is racist, whatever it is. But you and I both know
that in many parts of Brazil, not everywhere, you get pulled over, you know, you grease the palms a
was given when going to brazil you do that the united states you are guaranteed going to jail
so just that left that level of corruption apply it to those in high levels in government i think
americans are so used to being beyond that that they don't understand it still takes place in a
lot of other places so i literally was a part of an incident in cambodia where that happened oh yeah
yeah in the middle of the night they just pulled our van over i'm a big american asleep in the
front seat sort of asleep i'm like oh good the wheel middle of the country no no the other guy
was driving and basically he just looked and said the american can pay and i stayed with my eyes
closed because i knew like don't mess around yeah exactly and they just paid the cop they just gave
him money it happened to be in nicaragua all the time yeah when i was surfing there 2011 it's so
common so common you're like what is this guy doing it's like oh they want to make some money
they're just pulling people over randomly you don't have a helmet on in cambodia yeah come on
and so as much so that's why the left goes no no it's systemic corruption here in the united
states and they can't really point it out they go it's systemic discrimination in the united
states they can't point to a policy whereas in day-to-day practice in many countries in south
america and latin america like you said in asia uh you experience the corruption so many americans
have gone through their life without experiencing it that it's hard for them to imagine it but
it is uh actually can we take some chats some questions for you sure you can answer i'm sure
we have plenty it's time for chat friday all right questions for i don't want to say senor i
you do but don't don't say that i'll feel old he likes to go by eddie you can come by you
junior all right first chat from that fine fellow question for bolsonaro do right-leaning
brazilians have any thoughts on emperor pedro ii uh i just know how long he lasted as emperor and
that he looks like he's going to be a great emperor and he's going to be a great emperor
like santa claus that's a history question i don't know this is actually he and his father
i would say that uh they did the foundations of brazil i he wasn't the the main guy in our
independence but uh his father was don pedro primero his wife né emperor uh elizabeth leopoldina
and some others jose bonifacio this is something that we say that brazilians should know better
about our history i'm very proud of it
because as you are very proud of the falling fathers and all of your history
and when brazil was an emperor when it was an empire sorry in the 19th century it was
just a great country as united states and uh we really miss this time because uh now we do not
have a project of country you know we have politicians disputing power for every four years
but no one thinks in long term about the country so this is a shame on us and you should know better
about your history and our great
friends found the fathers from brazil don pedro primero né emperatriz leopoldina jose bonifacio
and some others yeah and one thing too you know a lot of americans think that the united states
is the only place that had slavery uh brazil did too so both of us have bad parts of our history
and we acknowledge it since 1888 we had uh black slavery in brazil and uh who freed then it was a
princess uh princess uh isabel and uh you know a funny thing
is that nowadays the black movement kidnapped by the left they do not recognize that because it was
a white signing a law to give freedom to the black people and they refuse to recognize that
and one year after that what happened is our monarchy falls so this lady uh princess isabel
princess isabel she freed the black people and there is a very um in the in the in the history
there is a chapter saying that she was talking with a friend and she said if i could have
1 000 trons i would change these 1 000 trons to free these slavers so doesn't matter that brazil
became a republic she's still like comfortable that she did the right thing but didn't they also
there were some like they did say that the the slaves the people who were previously slaves
couldn't live in the cities isn't that what ended up with the favelas some of it where they kind of
left they were like no it's because the favelas they are in the hills mainly in rio de janeiro
because it was the part where the rich people didn't want to go so it was the part usually
for the poor people they go live there and uh in a non-organized way so
They could go there, the mayor, the governor, they didn't care about it, and they would be, like, building on the hills.
Is that something that any politician is ever planning to address, or it seems like it's something that no one wants to touch?
Because the favelas kind of are self-governed, and it seems like it's just kind of, it's there, and it's beyond doing anything about.
Yeah, it depends a lot, because among them, you have a lot of difference between them.
For example, if you go to the south zone of Rio de Janeiro, which is the richest part of the state, and also with more tourists,
they earn money with the drugs, so it's not required they come down, you know, and really kill you to get your car, your cell phone.
If you go to the suburbs, then you have more violence, more criminality, because they have to do other stuff to survive as criminals.
But you have some initiatives to people trying to fix it, but it's very hard, because I can say that at least 30, 40% of the city of Rio is favelas.
Yeah, and I agree.
It's very hard, because even with technology, you can't see in, you can't know what's going on, it's an ambush where you can't send in the police.
They can't even fix Skid Row in Los Angeles, a much smaller example of some place that would be somewhat comparable, I would think, to a degree.
And they can't even fix that, so I mean, you're saying it's 30%, I don't know how big it is of a city, but that's hundreds of thousands of people minimum, right?
Yeah, yeah, you are right, but after El Salvador, there is no excuse to Brazil to fix it.
El Salvador was in a way worse shape.
It's true.
By the pandillas, by the gangs, so we need to do our homework.
What we need is a new mindset to combat the crime.
This is what Flavio is suggesting to bring to Brazil.
That'd be great.
That would be great.
I mean, I know it's a very, very tall order, because then you also have some people, unfortunately, who are used to living there, and those who actually run the drugs kind of protect them in that environment.
So like, you know what?
It's not so bad here, and it's tough.
Generationally, it's become a real issue.
It's just always interesting to me, because we look at it from the United States, we're like, how?
How does this happen?
Not every place is here.
Let's grab the next chat.
All right, next chat from Mward4.
With the corrupt current government there, how can the people in Brazil ensure they will get who they vote for?
Also, how can they be sure the government won't just stick your brother in jail with his dad?
That's a good question.
I often wonder that, like, how, because people obviously are disenchanted with the corruption in Brazil.
I would imagine it's also tough for them to trust that their vote will be counted.
There is no guarantee.
Yeah.
Because we use a fully elected. electronic system to vote, and it's fully centralized, which means that you need to
trust in the 20 bureaucrats that count the votes in the central in Brasilia, and in the
end of the evening, on Sunday, they will come out and say, who is the winner?
It's very hard.
Wait, wait, wait.
You guys are able to call your winner on the same day as voting?
Yeah, that's one thing you do better than us.
I'm not sure when you cheat.
I bet you they watch election night and say, it's like, why are you so stupid?
Why can't you count?
It's done by a machine.
We're so far behind.
The funny thing is, because your problems here in the U.S. are not our problems that are in Brazil.
So, we don't think it's a racism.
We need to show an ID with a picture to vote.
Really?
Right.
No matter what, even if you're white.
You're right.
Okay, all right, all right.
You know what?
As long as we do that here, which I believe is what everyone suggests, then we'd be in line with Brazil.
And we all vote in the same day, so first Sunday of October.
No, come on.
You're crazy.
Very racist.
Crazy Brazilian bastard.
From 8 a.m. until 5 p.m. on the first Sunday of October is the first round.
And on the third Sunday of October is the second round, the runoff.
But the problem is, we do not use papers.
There is no public accounting of the votes.
And you need to trust in the machine.
Use machines, and that's it.
This is the problem.
I think you trust in the guy that comes out from the machine and announces the winner.
That's who you're trusting in.
As Stalin said, it doesn't matter who you're voting for.
The thing is, who is counting the votes?
This is the issue.
So, in the same way that I cannot prove that you had a fraud, they cannot prove that you didn't have it.
And the Congress approved it for three times, what we call the printed vote bill in the Congress.
Which means that we should put a printer aside of the machine to print the vote.
And then, in case of suspicion, you can recount the vote in the paper.
Yeah.
But all of the time that we approved that, the Supreme Court said this is unconstitutional.
Because there is a threat that someone can see in who you are voting for, or you can get your ticket and go back.
Which is a lie.
We never said about it.
But they say you can get the paper and go back and prove for the drug dealer in who you are voting for.
But we need to guess.
What in the world?
Wait, wait, wait.
Who would show the drug dealer?
The voter.
Oh, the voter would show the drug dealer?
I mean, you live in a favela.
The criminal that commands the favela says, look, vote for Lula.
Oh, okay.
Go there and come back here with the paper showing, proving me that you voted for this guy.
Oh, it's the old Lula crack discount.
But we never said that you are going back home with a paper showing who you voted for.
So, the vote goes to a ballot box, you know, and you only open it in case of suspicions.
But it doesn't matter.
It's unbelievable.
We need a better system with more transparency.
Are you guys hopeful that your votes will be counted this time because in part of the popular uprising?
So, they are left.
Less likely to commit fraud because they're scared.
Is that part of it?
This is the only way to win.
It's too big to rig.
Right.
Yeah.
Other way, like, I mean, they can fraud.
I don't know.
I don't know.
They can fraud.
And just like here, when you start this debate, you literally can lose your social media.
You're going to be censored in Brazil, have a problem in the courts.
Like, I remember that Hillary was talking about it, like, a long time ago, and it was okay.
And Trump, you know, he had the mugshot in Georgia because of that.
Yeah.
And about the elections and the process.
It's weird.
We hope so.
Okay.
We'll take a couple more chats because I know you're busy.
What's that beeping that I'm hearing?
I don't know.
You're hearing a beeping?
No?
Could just be me.
I've got the headphones on, though.
All right.
Noodles.
Tinnitus.
Give him two more chats.
All right.
Next chat from Lonnie Burdeen.
Question for Eduardo.
When your brother wins, what does the first 90 to 180 days of his presidency look like?
Before we do the good things, the good policies, we need to have the power to do that.
So, first thing that we need to do is that do the pardon, the amnesty bill for the Congress.
So, we are going to turn this page, and then you can unlock the country for the next steps.
And I would say that we need to impeach the justice of the Supreme Court, Alexandre de
Moraes, at least him, because otherwise he's going to block my brother's administration,
just how he did with my father.
Only to give one example, we approved a law in the Congress.
We approved a law in the Congress to build a railway in the middle of Brazil.
Okay?
Okay.
Then, when they start the construction, a radical left-wing party, PSOL, Partido Socialismo
e Liberdade, they did go to the Supreme Court, and this judge, Alexandre de Moraes, he blocked
the construction of a railway.
Why?
Because it was good for Bolsonaro.
He thinks it was going to be good for his popularity.
So, to guarantee that we are going to have the power to achieve.
Or, we are promising during the elections, we need to sweep out from the Supreme Court,
Alexandre de Moraes.
After that, infrastructure, AI, data center, and energy are in the priorities of my brother,
for sure.
Can I ask you, what was their argument as to blocking the railway?
Was it some environmental argument?
Environmental argument.
Yeah.
That's what I figured.
I know you're going to be like, "There's a purple bird."
"There's a tree.
There's a Churchill that's going to die."
Yeah.
"There is a frog here in the swimming pool, so why do you want to kill all the frogs?"
Is the investigation against Moraes going anywhere right now?
There's the investigation into, I guess, some-
There is an investigation against him.
A couple of weeks ago, the Supreme Court was debating about it, about opening or not an
investigation against him.
Yeah.
And this all became because one of his friends, another justice on the Supreme
Court, he was releasing the connections between Moraes and a banker that is involved in a
corruption scandal.
And as soon as he did that, Moraes put this other judge under his investigation-
What?
In another probe.
The fake news probe.
He's like, "I'm going to go like this and say probe."
It's a probe.
He's like, "It's the probe.
It's carnival.
Probe."
It's out of control.
But after that, I think in December, they will get back the case and discuss if they
are really going to open an investigation against Moraes or not.
I hope they do it that way.
I hope it's not just the impeachment way.
I hope if he's done something wrong that they can do that for the public so it doesn't look
political at all.
It just looks like, "Hey, this is justice.
He did something wrong."
It would be better for the country.
I also agree with that.
Yeah.
That guy's got to go.
Yeah.
But I don't have that much hope that they will do that.
I don't think they met with Angel Gabriel in the middle of the desert.
Also, if they do that, then that opens the door to them all having investigations.
Right?
Yes.
So they would rather, if it's done through impeachment, done through it, it's like, "Okay.
Yeah.
Him.
We're not with him."
We're good.
You give them the out.
All right.
Final chat for Bebe Bolsner.
I don't want to say senor.
I don't want to be disrespectful.
All right.
Final chat from Papa Chaos.
"If your brother does not win the election.
Do you guys have anything planned to help your father?
Or is it a situation where you figure it out if it comes to that?"
Send the Marines.
Yeah.
That would be. Yeah.
And watch.
You'd have people on the left here being furious about it.
You have people on the mark saying, "This is just nation building and an evil empire."
But yeah.
That's a perfect example where it's wrong.
I mean, something needs to be done unless you guys can actually have helicopters race
the roof off the prison.
Yeah.
There is a part of the debate where Lula said, "Look.
to my brother, look, you're going to lose the election
Next year, you will no longer be a senator anymore.
You have new units, and we are going to investigate everything about you.
He said that openly in the middle of the debate.
Wow.
He was threatening my brother.
And I do assume that if my brother does not win, I'm in favor that he will leave the country.
Yeah.
For sure.
For sure.
He'll have to.
Yes.
Well, there are a lot of investigations left, right, and center.
Are there ever any trials?
What does a trial look like there?
Yeah.
The thing is that in Brazil, you do not need a reason to start an investigation.
The Supreme Court does everything by themselves.
But you need a reason to convict somebody and send them to prison.
Yeah.
My father is in prison because I couped the time, the moment that he was in Disney World.
That's right.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
It's like I said.
I think this is what a rock bot run the show.
And this is why when people, just to be clear, Bolsonaro, not a fascist, okay, fascism,
but we did a whole history lesson on, like, for example, Pinochet and other people in South
America.
And I said, people just remember the fascism.
What?
They don't remember is the socialism and the prosecution before that.
So often the response becomes like, okay, you're jailing everyone.
You're literally holding the media hostage.
Yeah.
The only way to deal with communist socialists, that's why you get the swing to fascism and
the swing back.
And we've all been taught about the bad fascists.
And yes, I get it.
They were bad.
But we never learn about the socialists that preceded them.
And this is one of those scenarios where it sounds like you guys will obviously want to
get into power, do it the right way so that you can actually serve the people.
But once upon a time, especially pre-modern technology,
the only response to a Lula da Silva would be a very strong man to be like, hey, put me
in prison while I was in Disney World for a coup.
We're just going to do it to you.
That's how it used to go back and forth.
Yeah.
And they openly say about it.
Yeah.
Even the justice, Alexandre de Moraes, like there is a bit of, I don't know, last year,
he was like laughing and say, oh, there are so many more people to we fight and some others
should arrest.
And then this is a justice of the Supreme Court doing a political speech and smiling
about arresting.
Like.
I'm talking about older ladies, people with more than 70 years old.
Like he literally destroyed a lot of families because of that to justify the narrative to
in the end arrest my father.
Yeah.
You had, I don't know, about 1000 people in jail now because of January 8th stuff that
we had in Brazil.
Yeah.
Come on.
This is a joke.
Well, it's the same that happened here.
January 6th.
Remember the QAnon shaman with the paint?
Yeah.
Everyone thought and we covered it immediately.
It's funny.
We covered it immediately.
We did an entire January 6th stream.
There was supposed to be a congressional hearing.
Yeah.
And then there was a hurricane.
So it didn't happen.
So we went through all of it.
And about two years later, there are Tucker Carlson and people come out and who, by the
way, were saying it was horrible.
Then go, oh, yeah, we have a new foot.
There was no new footage that QAnon shaman was saying, everyone, we have to be peaceful.
He didn't do it.
Some people did things that were wrong.
He didn't.
He was invited in by those at the Capitol spent.
I don't.
Was it over a year in prison?
I thought I thought I got like a four or five year sentence.
I don't know how much of that he actually served.
Yeah.
And it sounds like a very similar in Brazil.
Only they have far more power to do it.
All right.
So Bolsonaro SP or at Bolsonaro.
Bolsonaro SP on X message.
Final message to Americans.
And I mean, since this is on you, I think some Brazilians might be able to see it.
We have the same culture.
We are friends.
We do not hate the United States.
We do not hate Americans.
We only want a free world.
And it's better your penetration about what is going on in Brazil, because as we fought
with the Venezuelans, we never think about our country becoming a dictatorship.
But it can happen.
It happened with Venezuela yesterday.
It can happen now with Brazil.
It can be tomorrow with you.
So it's better you'll be smart and learn with other countries.
All right.
Mr. Bolsonaro, we very much appreciate it.
Everyone, thank you for being here.
Show them your support.
Go find a Brazilian today and hug them.
A Brazilian woman.
Yeah, I was going to say.
It's a very, very easy, very easy homework.
Go find a Brazilian woman and hug her and you won't get me too.
Just make sure, you know, you have like a nice hug.
Don't do that.
So, all right.
We'll see you guys next week.
Subject for today.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The speaker reflects on simpler times, like punch card voting, where voting was personal and transparent, contrasting it with today’s digital, often manipulated, election processes.
Fake or biased polling data, including discredited pollsters like Wedgwood and Median Strategies, are highlighted as tools of misinformation used to manipulate public opinion.
The show emphasizes real-time, independent election data and live calling of states, asserting accuracy and transparency unlike mainstream media.
A major focus is on Brazil’s election, where Flavio Bolsonaro, son of former president Jair Bolsonaro, is running against Lula, with deep political and familial stakes.
The speaker criticizes how political narratives are shaped by blame-shifting, especially targeting foreign actors or platforms like Meta, rather than addressing corruption or injustice.
Brazil’s political system is described as having widespread corruption and lack of institutional checks, with mass public support for accountability and justice.
The show promotes a return to independent, fact-based journalism and urges viewers to vote and verify information rather than rely on media-driven narratives.
The host argues that prediction markets and real financial bets offer more accurate insight than polls, as they reflect actual voter intent and behavior.
Summary:
The transcript is a satirical and critical commentary on modern politics, focusing on the erosion of trust in election systems and polling data. The host contrasts past, transparent voting methods like punch cards with today’s manipulated, media-driven processes, citing fake pollsters and biased data as tools of disinformation. He highlights how mainstream media and poll aggregators propagate skewed narratives, often without transparency or accountability.
The discussion shifts to Brazil’s presidential election, where Flavio Bolsonaro faces off against Lula, emphasizing political persecution, family loyalty, and public demand for justice. The speaker critiques the narrative of "white privilege" and foreign blame, arguing instead that Brazil’s political struggles reflect systemic corruption and institutional failure. He champions independent, real-time data and viewer accountability, promoting fact-checking and alternative prediction tools like financial betting markets as more reliable than traditional polls.
The show positions itself as a counter-narrative to mainstream media, offering transparency, real-time updates, and a commitment to free speech and truth. It concludes by urging audiences to engage directly with the political process, questioning institutional trust and demanding authenticity in both data and discourse.
FAQs
Punch card voting required people to show up in person and physically vote, unlike today's mail-in or online options. It was a simpler, more transparent process where each vote was visible and counted directly.
The speaker argues that early voting data doesn't reliably predict election outcomes, as it often includes unaffiliated voters and can be skewed by a small sample of early participants.
The speaker questions the reliability of many polls, claiming several are fake or manipulated, and that they were used by media outlets to create a biased narrative rather than reflect true public sentiment.
The speaker believes these pollsters are fraudulent, using fake data to influence public perception and media narratives, and they disappear after being exposed, which undermines trust in polling data.
The speaker notes that in Brazil, every vote counts and there’s no primary—only a runoff between the top two candidates—unlike the U.S. where major parties often dominate and primary results don’t reflect national sentiment.
The speaker argues that Flavio Bolsonaro’s campaign is about pardoning political opponents who were jailed, not personal revenge. This is framed as a correction of judicial injustice rather than retaliation.
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