☕ The One WR You Can't Make Me Draft

Huge, huge day for best ball breakfast. Of course, we have the usual four drafts. We'll be doing a solo draft. We will welcome Adam Levittan on. We will have Sam Sherman back in the saddle, and then subbing in for Karein today, none other than Ron Stewart. But we also have other big news. We have a coffee sponsorship that we are about to debut shout out Vasilaros in Bro's coffee here, Vasilaros in Sun's coffee, and on top of this, we have the so you think you can tout finale today. Immediately following best ball breakfast. So four straight hours, a best ball drafts, followed immediately by the so you think you can tout finale. It's gonna be a great day. I'm Pete Oversett. This is best ball breakfast. 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And in addition to this, we're gonna do a few giveaways. Throughout the stream today, give some of you guys a chance to try out their coffee for free. I've been drinking it exclusively for the past month. It's delicious. I love it. This has been my go-to. Just their dark roast here, but they have all kinds of different options there. And yeah, I mean, it's too perfect. It's been a long time here. You know, a long time coming on best ball breakfast and we did it an official coffee sponsorship. Vasilaros and Sun's are go-to for all of our coffee needs. And how are you guys doing in the chat this morning? GMs, GMs, what is up? How are we doing? And I need a coffee pour right off the rip. If you saw on Twitter, I mentioned it. I just got back from Austin, Texas. We were there for the ship chasing meetup this weekend. Great time. You can go to the ship chasing Twitter page to see a bunch of photos. If you miss some of that action over the weekend. But my flight kept getting delayed. Coming back from Austin. I didn't get in until two. Didn't get to bed and tell three. And then I had a toddler waking me up at 7 a.m. So we are running on fumes today. But more importantly, we are running on Vasilaros and Sun's coffee. Let's get our first ever official sponsored coffee pour here, guys. Boom. All right. How are we doing, guys? How are we doing? I have-- we had some drafts going over the weekend. They were tied in premium drafts. So I was focused on that. I have been doing some of my slow drafts, getting in all of my eliminators. But I think it's time to get back in the BBM streets here. I think it's time that we continue on this journey to max BBM all on stream. I need to go and check which draft number this is for me. I think it's like 105. I'm on a good pace here. This is also a good time to mention that we will be adding a basketball breakfast on Wednesdays for the rest of August until the season starts. So Wednesdays-- so it'll be what? The next four or five Wednesdays? 10 a.m. Eastern. We will have a kickoff. And on this Wednesday, I will be joined by the winner of-- so you think you can tout along with a couple other special guests there. So if you liked four hours of basketball breakfast on Mondays, then you're going to like probably three, three and a half hours of basketball breakfast on Wednesdays. And we will get a rotating crew of guests. The Monday block will stay the same. We'll have our same lineup as usual. And then Wednesdays will be bringing on some fresh faces, some old friends, all of those shows that you guys come to know and love in the month of August. So all kinds of drafting on tap here. I need to get all organized here. I need to get my solver up here. We got the 106. We got the 106 here today. And it seems like we've had some news over the weekend. You guys are going to have to catch me up. I was a little unplugged over the course of the weekend here. I know we had some injury concerns about Kyle Minungai for a bit, although I saw this morning that they just say he's day to day. All right, we are back on the clock here. CMC, I have 11.8% almond raw. We'll take CMC here. We'll keep playing it right down the middle. We don't have to get fancy quite yet. It's too early, and I'm too tired to get fancy right now. I'm going to check my solver settings here. We got ADP weight medium, team stacking importance slightly higher than medium. How sad, week 17 importance just down here. Well, we'll boost it to low. We'll boost it to low. All right, I think we are good there. Let me confirm what draft number this is. I believe this is 104 105 BBM. Oh, 103 103 here. We did a couple on the bash last Thursday. So this is my 100 and third draft. If you guys are joining me in a bunch of slow drafts, I do highly recommend getting in those now if you want to avoid win the clocks shorten. So for people who aren't familiar, at a certain point, underdog has to shorten the clocks for the slow drafts to ensure that they finish before the start of the season. Michael Dubner did a post on this recently. They speed up the slow draft clocks on 826, which seems far away. The issue is if you want to enter a slow draft now, you want to make sure that it doesn't get to the point where you're still drafting by 826 because that's just when it gets really tricky. So Dubner suggested do your last batch by August 6th to be safe. We have a CMC team. This is the spot where I will check some of my combo exposures. I do not have CMC with any AJ Brown. We have a little Drake London CMC. Let's do a CMC AJ Brown team here. So yeah, this is your PSA. If you do want to join the slow drafts and you want to avoid those overnight clocks going from 10 hours to five hours or whatever, get in those slows. Here's some more injury news. Keeping me up to date, can Kade left and return to practice five minutes later? I'm a non-guys back practicing today, carry on. Thank you. It's like I didn't miss anything. Sounds like I didn't miss anything. Many such cases. Many such cases. All right, let's get the draft board going. I feel so rusty today, guys. I do not feel dialed in today. This is gonna be a struggle. This is gonna be a struggle today. CMC AJ Brown, but we got our coffee. We got the chat. We'll power through. We will power through. What's up, fantasy football garage? I got to tell you what. You guys want to talk. I mean, there were a lot of fun subplots to the ship chasing weekend, but fantasy football garage. I mean, he was the MVP of the weekend. Let me make this pick here. What do we want to do? McBride's kicking around. I don't mind McBride at these prices. McBride at three six. I think I'm in. I think I'm in there. We'll go CMC AJ Brown, McBride to start. But fantasy football garage, you know, local there in Austin, guys in absolute unit. He's like six, seven. He's out there crushing it, playing pickleball. Then we're out on the lake. And he's out there wakesurfing. He rolls up to our meetup on his own boat. And then he's just the nicest guy. So shout out to fantasy football garage. One of our great hosts this weekend in Austin. Great meeting you guys. [BLANK_AUDIO] Some of you are looking forward to the shorter clock. I have an idea. If you like the idea of a shorter slow draft clock, Christian, you will love these things called fast drafts. It's incredible. It's a 20 second clock. It's almost as short as it could possibly be. I write. recommend checking it out. Neighbors. Yeah, so neighbors stuff. I mean, neighbors just went at pick 23 here. The days of Malik neighbors in round four. Oh, they are long gone. They are long gone. He is now a rocketed past the two three turn and is routinely now going in this range. He's got to flip Nico AJ Brown soon, right? I mean, I could even see him flipping H&N. I mean, neighbors is going to be what? Pick 16, 17 very shortly. And then who knows? Like this run of running backs here that we've just had basically all summer, genty Hampton Brown, cook, walk, or Henry Barkley H&N. It has been begging for a wide receiver to get mixed in there. And that man is going to be Malik neighbors. I'll still, you know, I always like playing a little bit of chicken with it. Could I have taken neighbors there with CMC, but I think you'll have, I think you'll have some ample opportunities to get CMC neighbors, at least over the next couple of weeks. But yeah, it's start getting them with Gibbs, start getting neighbors with Gibbs and Bijan because I don't think that's going to be there for that much longer. All right, we're back on the clock. Let's just value how did it here. We'll do a little Teterroya McMillan. I do have 13.2% McMillan. I have 10.5% McCorn. I could also go scatabo in this range. But let's go, let's go with Teterroya. I think this is a nice value here, ADP 39, false to 43. So we have CMC, AJ Brown, Teterroya, McBride. Not sure why we have AJ Brown not showing an ADP on my screen right now. A lavet got the extension over the weekend. I know. I keep seeing clips too of him and Jordan Tyson, New Orleans Saints, Twitter account. They have like very dramatic posts. It's like Tyson and Chris a lavet next to each other on the field. And it's like iron sharpens iron. It's like relax, New Orleans. It's just tricky. They're just they're just doing drills and shorts. Steve, did I see the flock showed up? Yeah, we had a we had to get together on Saturday night. Mason Dodd and Sal veterie swung by. Very nice of them to do so. Both very friendly dudes. And we were getting the lowdown on the upcoming flock league. And there might be some announcements soon regarding that that you guys will be interested in hearing. All right, this draft is absolutely ripping. You guys are out of control here. All right, Adams goes. So we are looking at one of these running backs here. Henderson, Judkins, Bucky. I generally go Bucky in this range. I have 10.5%. Henderson has been the faller a little bit. We can do the Henderson fall. We'll go we'll double up on New England here. I don't think I have any AJ. I'm wondering how much AJ Brown Henderson I have. Look at that. I don't have any AJ Brown and Trevian Henderson. So we'll do that. You can get Henderson a little cheaper than this. You know, I have seen him now fall all the way to the end of the fifth. But we'll grab him at five six. And so we got CMC Henderson at running back. AJ Brown, Tetoroia at Wide Receiver Tremac Bride at tight end here. Ooh, Charles, drink of choice over the weekend. I would say my favorite go to over the weekend was spicy marks. Had a couple really good spicy margaritas. Had a very good, what was it? It was a strawberry basil margarita I had on Saturday night. So yeah, I was taking advantage of all the good margaritas there in in Texas. But there were plenty of medellas fixed in. Well, this we have a rolu, Koya. Hopefully I got that username right. Order two bags of the coffee. Thank you, sir. Enjoy it. Yeah, I mean, the food we had awesome food this weekend went to Terry and Black's barbecue when we got in. That was that was as good as advertised there. That's a love the ribs. We had lots of good text, Max. Very much enjoy Austin. Nick, how excited was April about Dibo? She was very excited. I actually posted a video in the discord of me telling April that Dibo had found a new team. Although I will tell you, I asked her, I said, does this mean we have to stop drafting Dijon Stribling? Is he done so? And she said he's done so. So take that for what you were, but she is a little biased. She's the world's biggest Dibo fan. So she was always going to be skeptical of the rookie. This is the obvious Drake May pick, right? We're at six, seven here. It's right at ADP. We're all in on the paths on this build. Drake May, Trevion Henderson, AJ Brown. We have CMC, Teterroya and Tremac bride. Yeah, achievers, we missed you. I even had a lanyard made for you, sir. We thought you were coming. Gonna try to swing it next year, serious, FOMO. Yeah, it was a fun time. Oh my god, rumple shots with Pat. Yeah, Chris, someone tried to get me to do a rumple shot. And I'm generally pretty agreeable, but I had to draw the line there once I learned what a rumple shot was. That's how you, that's how I know I'm either, I'm either washed. I'm old or I'm maturing. I turned down, I turned down multiple shots. I used to not have the willpower to do that. This time, I said, that's gonna be a no for me, dog. I, I must live to see another day. All right, seven six here. We got the one quarterback, two running backs, two wide receivers. Oh, this range of the draft, right? Chuba Harvey. I do, I do DK Metcalf so much. Let's grab another running back. I've been trying to get some more Harvey. I'm at only 2.6%. He was definitely one of those guys that I have struggled with. And I'm not being really price sensitive with him here. Just more looking at my exposures and being like, do I want to be at 2.6% RJ Harvey? We did that exercise on ship chasing a couple weeks ago, looking at the ambiguous positional groups that we thought could yield league winners. And it's, it's easy to see how one of Harvey Dobbins or Coleman could really smash their ADP with just how good that offensive line is. The leap, I kind of think this offense is going to take this year. Nick sounds fully healthy. Obviously, Waddle in the fold. The, I think the scary part in why I've been hesitant on Harvey is just the fact he could get squeezed in both directions. He's losing, you know, he's obviously going to lose base work and goal line work to Dobbins. He's going to probably lose some long down in distance in third down stuff to Coleman, who they seem to really like in that respect. But do you just want to be in in the same way I'm in on Henderson in this draft? That's funny. I'm stacking the two overdrafted year two running backs. But they're, they're just bets on their team. Which actually makes me wonder here at pick 102. Maybe could be in the market for bone nicks. And then I wouldn't mind. I've not been big in, I guess I have been kind of on Sutton. I'm now looking at my exposure. I was like, I haven't been into Sutton, but I have 10 and a half percent. So maybe I am big into Sutton, but he would make sense here. We could basically get the the Patriots quarterback running back wide receiver stack in the Broncos quarterback running back wide receiver stack. That is true. We do have the week 17. I definitely need to be reminded of that. Sutton does go. Man, am I am I going to start slurping this Alec Pierce Dipperino? I probably should, right? What's the latest on Alec Pierce? Do I need to start slurping this up? We'll miss one to two more weeks. Probably going to be fine. Did Downs flip him in this draft? Yeah, down. Okay. So Downs now at 83. B's eggs. Oh my god. This is the most side kick ass draft ever. Look at this. Gentie Cook, Javante Jacobs, Bucky Irving. We know B Ziggs rolled out of bed with the sidekick today. But I'm getting an Alec Peershare. CMC, AJ Brown, Tramick Bride, Teterroy McMillan, Trevian Henderson, Drake May, RJ Harvey, Alec Peers. The bottom's in on Peers. You know the bottom's in on Peers if I'm if I'm finally clicking. B Ziggs, be nice to you. People are fired up about the sidekick. You can go read the the comments from last last week's show with Pat. Where what do we take? Tony Pollard is our RB six or seven. It is funny though. I was responding to a few of the comments where, you know, people are, you know, really pissed about the tool and they say it's, uh, you know, a scam or something which whatever have your opinion on it, but it goes back to that thing of people want to be right more than they want to win. Because if you thought there was a popular tool that was actually bad, you would want all of your opponents to use it. You would be celebrating it. You would be shouting it from the mountaintops. Everybody use the sidekick. All of my ops use the sidekick, but people are dumb. They say, don't use it. It's like, if it's bad, don't you want people to use it? So your teams are better. Is Xavier worthy? Okay. Or do I want to switch to Nick's real quick? I grabbed Xavier worthy. It was funny. We were doing the drafts over the weekend. And I had selected Xavier worthy on the team I drafted. We were doing FFPC bestball style setting. So it's tight and premium. 20 rounds. And I had my homes. And it was like right as the news was breaking that Xavier worthy had heard his shoulder in practice. I'm like, oh, God. And then by the end of the, the end of the drafting day, the news came out that he was going to be fine. So are we still clicking Xavier worthy? Have there been updates on it? People talking about Parker Washington. Oh my God. I mean, the drum beat, I don't even think drum beat is the right word. A drum beat sounds like kind of soft and tinny. This is a fucking gong that they put right by your head in some 400 pound man just keeps banging the gong. You want a fade Parker Washington beat? You're really going to keep fading him to select Travis Hunter and round 13. Lost my headphones on the Parker Washington gong beat. Respect the gong. Oh, this is the worst feeling. Nothing worse than finishing up active slows with Pierce Hall on the roster, seeing that first zero there. It's brutal. Give me George Kittle. Give him. Yeah. Yeah, we're going to do George Kittle. I should probably take Rashad White, but come on. Come on. George Kittle CMC, let's do it. Man, those the Niners really doing themselves no favors with all of these injuries and then all of the training camp photos. You see the the substation in the background. I mean, it's it's so good. Like this being the backdrop. At this point, you do just have to move the practice facility. Like it's just a practice facility. It's just a feel like it doesn't. I think purely for optics, San Francisco, that you have to go somewhere else. Even get some kind of bubble around it. Some kind of quasi indoor facility. You can't be having the electrical substation in the background while simultaneously having every single player on your team injured. We just live in an era where you give the conspiracy theorists theorists an inch. They're going to take a mile and this isn't giving them an inch. This is giving them the mile to start with. You can't be doing this. You can't have that in the background and then try to beat the allegations. What am I going to do with my quarterback to here? I guess Daniel Jones will be live. Baker may feel this sliding here. We might yeah, let's just let's just slurp this Baker may feel Dipperino. We can do Jalen McMillan. We can do Kate Ahten. We can do Ted Hurst. Let's do Baker here at pick 126. Oh. Oh. Drake May Baker may field. Christian McCaffrey Trevian Henderson, RJ Harvey, AJ Brown, Teterroy McMillan, Alec Pierce, Xavier Worthy, George Kittle and Tramick Bride. Romeo Dobbs went at 110, of course, to B-Ziggs, of course. I don't think how much how much may field have I been drafting? I don't think I've been drafting a ton of may field. But he's honestly a pretty good backstack now with Hurst being pretty viable. I haven't been a huge McMillan guy, but this seems like the spot to get back in on him. Daniel Jones on an Alec Pierce team certainly makes sense. Like if Alec Pierce thesis is really hitting, we're going to be having a bunch of long touchdowns you would think. Pete's going to have a time to draft a badge bro, but all before your first guest, I might. Who took McMillan from me? 133? Come on. What's McMillan's ADP? 145. Come on. Just because I say I was going to backstack him, you have to go and take McMillan at 133 for no fucking reason. Come on. You have Herbert. If you're going to reach, just take Tray Harris. Come on. Grow up. Grow up fine. I guess I'll just take Travis Hunter. Actually, I'll take, I'll take Rashid Shahi that he's here. But if not, I will take Travis Hunter. Don't make me do it. My ears are still ringing from that Parker Washington gong. All right. Fine. I'll take Shahid. We're just going to keep slurping these dip arenos. It also gives us another quarterback stack here. We can do Donald with Shahid. We can do Dimes. We also can do Bryce Young with Teteroi. So we got some good quarterback options here. CMC AJ Brown, Tray McBride, Teteroi McMillan, Trevian Henderson, Drake May, R.J. Harvey, Alec Pierce, Xavier Worthy, George Kittle, Baker Mayfield, Rashid Shahid. These guys always come out of the chat, the sniper. You never see him. You never see him around. And then they come out to defend themselves. Be sure, says, "Ha, look at my build. I need any wide receiver I can get my hands on." You're taking Jalen McMillan over Rashid Shahid straight up. I don't know about that dog. I don't know about that. This is a source subject, Charles. He asked, "Did I max the chow-chow?" So on Friday, I'm getting ready to go. And I'm like, all right, I will enter 10 chow-chow slows. And then I'll do five fast drafts while traveling. So I do one in my Uber to the airport. I do another waiting for my flight. And then I land in Austin. I was going to do another one while making the way to the hotel. And then the contest filled. The contest filled. So I have 12 chow-chows. Are you kidding me? Now you're going to give me Travis Hunter again. Again, fine. Fine. Yes, I will take Travis Hunter. We're just, we're just value-hounding folks. Shahid, nine picks past ADP, Travis Hunter, nine picks past ADP. Drake May and Baker May feel that quarterback. CMC Trevian Henderson, RJ Harviet running back. AJ Brown, Teteroria, Alec Pierce, Xavier Worthy, Rashid Shahid, Travis Hunter, at Wide Receiver. Tremick Bride, George Kittle at Titan. Although all of my quarterbacks got wiped. That's how I got Travis Hunter. I should, I'm making such a novice streamer move. I've been telegraphing what I'm going to do. Not even telegraphing, just saying what I'm going to do. And then boom, Donald goes, Danny dies. times goes, I guess that would have been a pretty big fall for some of these guys. I don't necessarily need a QB3 here. It's fine. It's fine. KDS Dibo are struggling? Probably Dibo, man. It's got to be Dibo. I mean, it's kind of concerning. There's still definitely room for struggling to get on the field and play, but a lot of the things that Stribbling does well, being a physical yards after catch guy who the team is excited about his blocking ability, isn't that Dibo Samuel? Dijon Stribbling could be anything. He could be Dibo Samuel. The counter is, you know, fat Dibo is cooked yada yada, but I don't know, man. Probably, probably going to be hard for Stribbling to out produce Dibo at least early on. And I think you just probably want to play it how the market's going to play it where Dibo is going to be much more expensive. So if you are on the Stribbling side, get your Dibo shares now because you see here, Dibo at pick 134 and what is Stribbling still on the border? Did he go? No, he went to where did where did Stribbling go? He went 149. All right, do we take Bryce Young here as our QB3? I mean, we certainly need some more running backs, but I do like a little Bryce with Teteroya. You know me, a little treat, a little third quarterback stacked up to get me through my Monday. Boy, do I have a case of the Mondays today, guys? I will say, getting woken, you know, if you are going to get woken up after four hours of sleep, having it be from your little girl, your three and a half year old toddler that you missed over the weekend, that's the way to do it. That's the way to do it. If you'll allow me to be sentimental for a second. Speaking of a guy who's going to keep rising, right, we're going to get the sharbs rise. It's not going to be quite Malik neighbor's level, but as people really start warming to him coming back sooner rather than later, you got to think sharbs inches up because there's basically no resistance for running backs in this range. Bigs be Samson Coleman marks. Like you can move from basically anywhere, around 14 and lower if you're running back, you can move up to this Tracy Keaton Mitchell level pretty fast. There's just no resistance as far as running backs go. So I wouldn't be surprised that the sharbs stuff continues to be really positive if he inches up back in that territory. Speaking of running backs, holy shit, this got wiped. Holy shit. We're at pick 156 and I'm looking at Sean Tucker, which I guess I'm going to do so much at all that value that I got on those wide receivers. I'm now having to give it back to this running back room. I just took Sean Tucker at pick 174. But I have Baker. I need some more running backs here. I do want to work on this Tampa Bay Backstack. We didn't get Macmillan, but I'm still interested in ought and I'm still interested in the Hearst. Oh, that's a tough scene. Jason says power went out while on the clock and around 17 auto to Ricky. And I about died. That's brutal. Yeah, Jane blue, not quite a Parker Washington Gong beat, but it's a it's a pretty loud drum beat on Jane blue right now. Pretty loud. He went one pick before I selected Tucker here. Yeah, I'm just at piece with it. I'm too tired. I'm too tired to be coy to be stealth. I'm just going to tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to hope that you let me do it. Wow, Sean Tucker in the chat. Sean Tucker 8297. I'm ready, Pete. Don't worry. Imagine having a chat just filled with the NFL players and them commenting on your draft. Every single dude would be pissed that they didn't go 101. All right, we have a three, four, six, two. I don't technically need aught in here. Hmm, how do I want to play this? I do want another running back. Let's do March on Lloyd's like one of the last guys I can even stomach up here. Let's just do March on Lloyd before this gets nasty. So we'll probably just shut it down there. CMC Henderson RJ Harvey Sean Tucker March on Lloyd. I'll say a prayer for that running back room. Yeah, I don't know what happened in this one. People were thirsty. Pigs B went 154. Samson went 153. I guess I did wait a long time. I took RJ Harvey in the seventh and then George Kiddell was probably my fatal flaw. I probably didn't eat George Kiddell. Who could I have taken? Yeah, I could have taken Rashad wider bill there or Aaron Jones. Now the question is what's more important for this team? Hurst or KDOT? I kind of like Hurst, honestly. I mean, I've McBride and Kiddell. I don't need to force on. Let's do Hurst as our wide receiver seven and then if Oton falls, no, he immediately goes. That's fine. I'm not going to go home. I'm not going to be laying awake in bed tonight being like fuck. You didn't get KDOT and as you're tied in three. But I might lay awake tonight if I had taken KDOT and going fuck. I didn't get Ted Hurst. This is my wide receiver seven. That's how I make all decisions. Thinking when I lay in bed tonight, recapping this team in my head, what decisions will give me the most regret? And then I do the opposite. Are we seriously doing Jaden blue in the 14th roundout? Well, this is what I was just saying. There's no resistance in the ADP. It's not even all it is going to take is a little bit of positive news for any of these late guys. Like, take March on Lloyd, for instance. Say we got some news report or there was video surfacing of the Josh Jacobs incident and there was like rumblings of NFL to make decision about Josh Jacob soon. Like March on Lloyd would just immediately rock it up four rounds. Or you can do any of these things like, Beijon Robinson is dealing with a hamstring injury that could linger throughout the preseason. Brian Robinson is going to shoot up four rounds. Like, it's very thin there. So I wouldn't have crazy sticker shock about anyone running back moving up because there's just nothing preventing them from doing so. Three, five, seven, two. Is there any correlation stuff? We obviously have Denver, New England, Tampa Bay, week 17 plays the Rams. I don't think I have anything there. Oh, how about this? How about this for a new click? Are we doing a little Xavier Ligette now with Brazl done for the year? A little Ligette, a little double stack with Bryce. I think he's on the menu, right? I think Ligette's on the menu. Who else am I going to do? The same guys I click every single day in my life. Let's do a little Ligette. Three, five, eight, two. I think I like this team wish I would have gotten. I probably should have done one of those other running backs, Minnesota running back, Bill, instead of Kiddell, and then prioritized Otton. And I could have done like a late three tied in Bill, along with with McBride. But I just had to have George Kiddell. I legitimately disagree with this, Jack says Liget is not on the menu, man. Why isn't Liget on the menu? We draft a wide receiver fours and wide receiver fives on other teams. I think we can draft the wide receiver three on the Carolina Panthers, whose skill set is going to be boom bus, pretty touchdown dependent, who's going to have an extremely low draft percentage. The projection, let's see, I do have to upload new best ball projections. Let's see where ETR has Liget if they've updated. Xavier Liget, ETR 233. I think that's on the menu. 18th round click. It's on the menu, brother. You don't have to order it. By all means, get the chicken tenders. You and your three year old level palette. Some of us are going to try the special, this week's special and it's Xavier Liget. You don't have to like it, but it is on the menu. All right, let's upload some ranks. Gotta get everything ready for Levittan. That's so funny I accidentally had. I didn't realize that when you search for a player and then download the CSV, it's only that player in the CSV, so the rankings I just uploaded is just Xavier Liget. All right, let's try this again. Although that would be a pretty epic ranking set, Xavier Liget or bust, the most interesting man in the world, Xavier Liget. Let's go read some-- let's see what's good on the Twitter streets about Xavier Liget. Let's get some confirmation bias on Xavier Liget. Xavier Liget opens up about remodeling his childhood home. Okay, off to a good start. What a nice route in catch here from former GameCock Xavier Liget. This guy just really wanted to say GameCock in this tweet. The Charlotte Observer says, "Chris Brasel's injury affects panthers for Xavier Liget." It means three words. That's how you do clickbait folks because you better believe I want to know what those three words are. You better believe I'm clicking this. What are the three words? Okay, here it is, guys. Here are the three words. Dave Canallus had a simple response to how Brasel's absence might affect Liget. It was three words, in fact, business as usual. Business is usual. Now I don't like this title because the title made it seem like it was Liget who said the three words, but it's Canallus. For Xavier Liget, it means three words. It's not business as usual for Liget. This is newfound opportunity for Liget. I hate everything about this. Anyways, I'm done looking at Xavier Liget news. Let's recap this team. Let's recap the 103rd Best Balmania draft. What's today's date? August 3rd. Can't believe it. August 3rd, guys. Can you guys believe it? Can you believe it's August already? It feels like it was just July. BBB Solo. What did we draft a three, five, eight, two? What was this? This was the big New England. Well, New England Tampa Bay. All right, here we go. Here we go. Drake May Baker Mayfield, Bryce Young at quarterback. CMC Henderson Harvey Tucker, March on Lloyd, AJ Brown, Ted Arroya, Alec Pierce, Xavier Worthy, Rashid Shaheed, Travis Hunter, Ted Hurst, Xavier Liget, Tramick Bride George Kittle. Let's check the draft report on this one. I kind of like this one. I mean, I did get a little boxed out at running back like, I think my RB4 should probably be a little better than Sean Tucker. But I think we can survive this. We're going to need a hit from either Henderson or Harvey. We're going to need a big hit from one of those two. A decent amount of value at non-running back positions, ADP value 11.2 draft capital, 14.9, to reach for Harvey, or I didn't have to reach for Harvey. I chose to reach for Harvey. I did have to reach for Sean Tucker and March on Lloyd. But nice value here on the wide receivers. Nine spots on Pierce, three and a half on Worthy, nine on Shaheed, nine on Hunter. Oh, Rashid Shaheed as the bring back on Bryce Young, Ted Arroya, and Xavier Liget. Back in my day, we used to go out of our way to force week 17 correlation. Now we unpack it like a present that we forgot about. Oh, you're right, solver. You're right. I did take Rashid Shaheed and then Bryce Young and Xavier Liget. You're right. I did do that very purposefully, in fact. Week 16, Christian McCaffrey, George Kiddles, Xavier Worthy, week 15, New England versus the Chiefs. I like this team. I think it's, I think good wide receivers like the tight end, need CMC to stay healthy, need a big head out of Henderson and Harvey, and then need some standalone value out of Tucker and Lloyd. Easy game. Easy game. Let's do a coffee giveaway, shall we? Shall we do a coffee giveaway? Let's, let's do it here. Let's do it. We're going to do a hashtag the poor, hashtag the poor. If you would like to be eligible for a free bag of coffee, we have the New York City classic coffee, we have the New York City bold coffee, we have the New York City French roast coffee, the Italian roast coffee, the Brazilian single origin coffee, the Colombian single origin coffee in the New York City decaf coffee, boo, decaf, boo. They also have the espresso's, and then this is what I'm rocking folks. I'm rocking the pillow pack here. 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We got ghost, ex-ghost, AFX, congratulations sir, contact me on Twitter, Discord, YouTube comments and we'll get you a free bag of Vasilaros and Suns coffee, the new official. coffee sponsor of Bestball Breakfast. And like I said, Lord knows I need it this morning. In fact, in honor of the poor, in honor of ghost, let's do another poor. (crickets chirping) Can't even do a giveaway these days. This is the society we lived in. Rigged, rigged, rigged. There he is, ghost, congratulations. The poor for the poor. Sour grapes if you didn't win. All right, we're gonna have Levittin joining here in about 10 minutes. I'm sorry we don't have time for a Badge Bros. Brawl. I thought we did. I thought we did. You guys wanna do some slow draft picks with me? I did pretty good in Austin. You know, the thing is, here's the thing, right? You think about being in slow draft hell. You know, you're traveling, you're living your life and you're like, man, am I gonna have time? Am I gonna remember? How am I gonna integrate slow drafts into this vacation? Well, here's the thing. If you go on a trip where it's a bunch of other people who are also in slow drafts, it's not a weird thing to bust out your laptop and do a few slow draft picks. It really is the ultimate hack, if you're worried about the stigma of drafting fantasy football teams on vacation, just go on vacation with a bunch of other basketball sickos and then it is completely normalized. So I did pretty good. I don't think I timed out on any picks. Look, speaking of struggling, speaking of struggling, actually, let me get the ETR updated with the eliminator ranks in here too. Just make sure there's no funny business. Make sure that Xavier Legat is still in my ranks. Where are we here? Let's get some updated eliminator ranks and then we'll rip some slow draft picks. It's just being like just super aggro titles for doing your slow drafts. I'm about to fucking crush some slow draft picks. Tap in now. Thinking of ripping some rumble shots and slamming in some eliminator slow draft picks, bro. Where are my chow slows? I always try to bang out the chow slows first. Just a little treat, you know, traditional best ball. Stribbling? Stribbling about struggling here on this team? I do, ooh, I'm gonna be shut out at quarterback if I'm not careful. Maybe we do go Bryce Young here. Let's get another quarterback. We'll let struggling go for now. Do you know who I never click? I never click Jalen Naylor. I just can't. I even all dabble in a little tray tucker. I can't click Jalen Naylor. Like, I mean, what are we doing here? Jalen Naylor over Omar Cooper is just against my religion. Like I'm not allowed to. It's like how Jehovah Witnesses can't celebrate birthdays. My religion, as a best ball player, does not allow me to select Jalen Naylor. It's just one of those weird things. It's in the ancient text. I'm not gonna question it. I'm not gonna really figure out if the divine prophet who said you can't draft Jalen Naylor if he was full of shit. If he was problematic, I'm just blindly trusting the ancient text that says vow shall not draft Jalen Naylor. Who are these people? Naylor is happening? What's happening? The fifth option on the Las Vegas Raiders is happening? How? How is that happening? How? It doesn't even matter if it does, though. I'm not allowed. I'm not allowed. The eliminator 101, you wanna talk about a layup? Jamir Gibbs. That's an easy one. That's an easy one. You, who are you people? Naylor is the next JSN. You guys are off your rockers. I'm falling for the rage bait in the chat right now. Naylor is the skeleton key? The skeleton key to what? Your own casket? Ooh, look at this key that fits perfectly in here. Let me lower myself to my burial. Oh, God, yeah, here come the money, bros. 36 million, 23 million guaranteed. Yeah, the Las Vegas Raiders who have never made any suspect decisions when their salary kept cap or their draft picks, they surely got it right on this one. What, I mean, you guys, who, I really can't tell if you guys are being serious if I'm just getting rage baited. Colton says Tucker Naylor in Benson will be dug guys. Please don't say dug guys. GUYZ. 30% Naylor. I guess this is what happens when you have eight running backs before round nine. 37% Naylor, Jake. You've been here all off season worried about me getting enough running back points. And you're out here taking 37% Naylor. Look in the mirror, brother. Look inward. Take care. There's a parable in the Bible about fixing your own house before you look to fix someone else's. Go fix your own house. Fix your own portfolio, Jake. Okay, there we go. Now I can sense the sarcasm. I'd pick Naylor over to coup and redraw. Dude, seriously, Davis. I mean, where did these guys come from? I didn't even know that like I get the Parker Washington hive. Like I get it. I truly get it. He was good for three and a half weeks. Trevor Lawrence loves him. Liam Cohen loves him. The Jagged social media team fucking loves him. I get it. You are getting shoveled Parker Washington propaganda down your throat every single time you open up your Twitter feed. So I get it. Where is this Jaylen Naylor enthusiasm coming from? Where? God, I can't wait for Jaylen Naylor to stick it to me this year. You can bookmark this. Clip it. Clip it. I'll always remember today. August 3rd is the day I launched a coffee sponsorship for Bestball Breakfast, a seminal moment in this show's history. And also when I guaranteed that Jaylen Naylor would be a hit in 2026 Bestball, those will be the two things we remember from this show. I got to go to the easy. So I just joined a bunch of eliminator slows this morning. Let's do the layups here. Puka or Naylor, guys at 1-4. Puka or Naylor. I think they go, do you start going a little CMC here? No, we'll play it straight. We'll go Puka. Yes, guys, I know Naylor got a lot of money. Lots of players in the NFL get a lot of money. Another Puka. All right, double Puka's in these early eliminator slows. I was thinking about it, CMC over Puka and Alim. We'll do Chase here. Bang out a few of the easy ones. These 18th round ones. Drake, May, Geno, are we doing the booty thing? We have three tight ends. We have the five running backs. Drake, May, Geno, Smith. Oof. Could we do, we could do some wrist up, shoulder here. It's either booty or shoulder. Rashi Rice, Waddle, Adams, Tyson, Wando, Robinson, Travis Hunter, Don Tebian, Wix. Week 11 by, we only have one other week 11 by, we can do booty. Why not? I mean, booty is, he's the second coming of Randy Moss. According to every New England beat reporter. New copepactic. If someone you dislike gets paid, just say everyone gets paid. They do, brother. I will say this. It is extremely bearish for the nailer bros that the only thing that they are trumpeting. about him being a good pick, is the money he's already received. That's extremely bearish, guys. You're gonna have to go workshop. The nailer hive needs to regroup, come back with some targets per route run, come back with how bullish you are on Kirk Cousins and Fernando Mendoza. Maybe even workshop like there's no way that Brock Bauer's Aston Gentie and Trey Tucker all stay healthy this off season. You guys need to come with a little bit more to support your nailer enthusiasm. It can't just be he got a contract. So Levitan's never late, and now I'm worried that he, now I'm worried that he's not coming today. But I believe we're good. I'm gonna text him, I'm gonna text him. Maybe forgot to write it down on his calendar. Well, the good news is if Levitan doesn't show up, we can just talk about Jalen nailer for the next hour. All right, we're good, he's just tech lording. He's just tech lording. Let's go see how much nailer I have after all this. I'm honestly curious if I've clicked him once. I don't have a single share of Jalen nailer according to this. I think I might have taken him in one eliminator. I don't have a single share of Jalen nailer across 134 teams. So don't tell me that I'm not putting my money where my money is. All right, welcoming to the stage, my dear friend. Mr. Adam Levitan, I just piled up the chat because I just revealed that I have not selected Jalen nailer once this summer, and I just realized there is a legion of Jalen nailer bros. Are you part of the Jalen nailer hive or are you on team fade with me? Um, you know, Clint Kubiak had JSN and made him go nuts. Of course, he's gonna make Jalen nailer go nuts. I already got, he's the next JSN in the chat. So you walk right into that one. I have my best ball explorer, the Solver portfolio tool. I'm happy to tell you guys how much I have of anyone. Yeah, I want to know the nailer. I want to know because I think you guys have like an okay rank on him. I have 2.9% nailer. Okay, I mean, yeah, you guys are even slightly above ADP. So, you know, maybe I'm the one being too harsh on him, but I just, I can't get there with the Raiders fifth option or whatever. I don't think he's the fifth option, but yeah. What do you think he is, four and a half? I mean, it's good, we got Bowers, we got Gentie, we got Trade Tucker. Gonna be running a lot of 12 with Michael Mayer. I mean, where, what are we doing? What are we doing? Yeah, I have, I have a lot on Michael Mayer, actually. I have 32.8% in fees on Mayer, 17.28%. 17 or 4% exposure, but 32.8 fees on Michael Mayer, just as long. That has to be DK round, round 20. Round 20, all round 20, DK. Yeah, I mean, it's like, there's not many tight ends you get the contingent value. In other words, if Bowers went down, Mayor would be, he'd probably projected a top 10 tight end for us pretty easily weekly. And then you also, I mean, they're talking about a lot playing a lot of 12 and so, you get maybe a hair or standalone value too. So I think it's pretty good in round 20, actually. Your audio doesn't sound bad, but it doesn't sound like you're on your normal mic. Can you hear me? I can't hear you. Yeah, maybe, maybe it's fine. It sounds like maybe it's like your computer speakers. It's not, it's not awful. It was just a little different. I can't even understand. You're good, you're good. Yeah, it's all good. Yeah, I can't hear you now, though. Test, test, test, one. There you go. This is like Silva. You know, I'm going to fucking kill someone. Did you see what happened to Silva? Would he, uh, would he start with the, uh, with a randomizer? Sorry, give me a thumbs up if I can restart my computer. I think that'll fix it. Yeah, go for it, restart it, you're good, you're good. I'll, I'll, I'll handle the Jalen Naylor Bros. while you restart your computer. Look at that. If you guys, so we did, I did a randomizer with Silva on Thursday. And the show literally started with him calling me on my phone, having sent me a screenshot of his monitor just bricked with an air message. He's like, I don't, I don't, I don't know what's going on. But don't worry, I tech loaded him through it, and I said, just turn off your monitor, unplug it and plug it back in and it worked. Can you believe that? It worked. But these two, man, these, these ETR boomers levitated Silva. It's, it's incredible. They made it this far have built a massively successful business hundreds and hundreds of thousands of combined followers on social media, defined personal brands, a community who loves them, and they can't fucking figure out. Out of broadcast. Oh, man. Oh, man. Here, should we look at, let's see what the Jalen Naylor propaganda is here for you guys. Since today's show is now sponsored by not only Vassalero and Suns Coffee, but Jalen Naylor. Jalen Naylor believes he's a complete receiver. I can do things on the outside, do things on the inside, run game, pass game. I feel like I can do it all run the whole route tree. Best, that ball coach underscore Nate says, I check my exposures and I'm going to add an even 8% nailer. All right. Is he back? I don't know. I can hear you. Yes. You sound good. You're on the right mic, too. Yes. I'm sorry about that, guys. I take pride in my tech loading. And I failed this morning. It's all good. It's all good. Yeah. I was saying, uh, Silva at the start, he called into the random. I calls my cell phone and say, my monitor's broken. I have an air message. So I don't know what to do. That's how-- You know, the company, like, supplies his tech, his tech loading. So we bought him a bunch of computers to the years. And Wiggins is like, me and Wiggins always argue about what we should send him. Because he's very used to PCs. But I feel like the Mac is so much easier to use. But he can't, like, he can't, like, get it on the Mac because he doesn't have Mac experience. But every time he has a fail with the monitor, the computer, whatever, I'm like, man, you just got to have a Mac. You just got to have a Mac. And Wiggins is like, he can't figure out how to use a Mac. It's not intuitive because you've used a Mac your whole life. I'm like, man, it's like-- it's all too much. I love that these are the-- there's all of these different projects you guys are trying to tackle. You're trying to grind every single micro edge to make your projections, like, 0.1% sharper. And you're trying to figure out which operating system is best for Evan Silva. There's-- it's just-- it's so much going on. It's crazy. By the way, I did-- I'm going to address this on the show. I saw a lot of questions like, where's Leoni bin? I know Leoni's not doing a Pete's show this year. The-- the-- this show, and he has been on our show. I wanted to just say, Leoni is good. Leoni is fine. He has been unreal, along with the rest of the data side team, trying to make our projections better. And like, this all season, like improving, like, we found some holes in the projections and like, some of the distributions and some of the way things correlate. And some of the way we project touchdowns and all this other stuff. And like, yeah, like, doing shows is great. But if we're being honest, like, the way we actually make money is by-- is the people buy our projections, you know what I mean? Like, people spend money to have the most accurate projections. So that's only when he's been working on-- he's doing well. He'll be-- he'll be back soon on the show. We are going to record Man vs. Machine next week. So he will make his triumph and return for that. Yes. You guys, essentially, this offseason, you threw him into the ETR dungeon. You locked the door through the key and said, do not come out until you make our projections 1.3% better than they were last year. Well, exactly. We have like five people working on that full time. So yes. Yeah. 1.3% better. It sounds crazy. It's huge. It would make a huge difference. So yeah. So here's the question for you. Because you're no-- you know, in the cash game streets, you know, there's a little bit of art to science here. As the projections get better and better, does that mean you're going to IKB less and less? I already can't IKB. If I try to IKB in cash, they just these freaks just yell at me. Why didn't you play the projections? I can, I can IKB. And then if I play the optimal, it's like, you know, that doesn't take any skill. You just play the optimal. So I can't win. I don't know what I'm going to do for cash this year. I was going to say, yeah, have you thought about it? I don't think I can really kill the article. There's a lot of people that I think, like, aren't as deep that really like the article. [BLANK_AUDIO] Obviously, everybody knows what the ETR optimal is. That's like deep in the streets. There's a lot of people that read our stuff and it's a free article who don't know what the optimal is. You know, so yeah. I'll probably still do it. - Yeah. What if you, I do think like a fun version of the, what I would enjoy reading would be, these are the five spots that I would be willing to IKB are projections or that, you know, that could be a fun way to play it. - You talked about before, before the slate or after? - Well, I, you know, people would want to be for, but sure, after too. - Well, we are adding a new show this year to the in season product of projections context show. So we, like we're gonna go over like five or six spots a week, hopefully either like Friday or Saturday, like five or six spots where we're like, man, like we're making guests on these inputs and here's how we have it. Like Michael Wilson versus Marvin Harrison or Rico Dowdell versus Chuba Hubbard last year will be good examples. Like here's our assumptions. If, you know, if you guys want to play them differently, I think being transparent on some of those assumptions is good. So yeah, we're gonna add that before the slate. - All right, Levin Tan, 104th BBM draft. We have the 102, the QIS set Jamir Gibbs goes 101. You good with Bijan Robinson here? - Sure. Don't say sure as if you're considering someone else. No, I mean, you're the, like all these people that play BBM, a lot aren't they, it's like the diversity stuff. Like I'm not gonna take Bijan too every time 'cause I wanna flip the board or whatever, you know? Like don't lump me in with the flip the board, Rose. Don't come on. This is, it is like real talk though with it. I was, you know, I was hanging out with Karein and those guys and over the weekend and doing a bunch of slow drafts in so much of it right now is just not getting bored in doing sub-optimal things 'cause you're bored having done this all summer, you really have to fight against that. - Yeah, I hear you for sure. By the way, my invite to the ship chasing party must have got lost in the mail, huh? - I would say from my perspective, you and Silva and a lot of you guys have kind of positioned yourself in an adversarial respect to the ship chasers. I mean, to me, you guys are kind of persona non-gratas at an event like that. But are you, you open to the ship chasers way? Would you want to be included in such an event? - No, I wouldn't, actually. (laughing) - Is this like an annual thing? Like all the ship chasing community meets up and does drafts and stuff? - Yeah, yeah, we went, we've been doing it. We used to go to the Vegas and do like the FFPC drafts and now we've, because that's the weekend right when the season's starting. It just got too hard. So now we pushed it up. We did Miami last year, Austin this year. - That's great. - I mean, it's been a while since you guys did, 'cause I was out in Colorado when you guys had an ETR meetup a few years back, have you done one since then? - Yeah, no, not really, not like a big one. No, it's a great, I wish we did. And I think like in this age of like AI and LLM's and everything, you know, like human, actually real life stuff is going to increase in value including stuff like that. So I actually think it's great. Yeah, we should do more of it. It's just trying to do a million things at once. It's just hard to execute. - That's right. All right, we got Bijan Robinson here at the start of this draft. We got some friends and family in here. Anything else that's been on your mind? I was a little unplugged over the weekend. Was there any big news that I missed? Stuff that should be on my radar? Some Minungai stuff? I saw for a hot sec. - I mean, yeah, Minungai seems like he's fine. People keep like, even underdog felt for like, don't can kick out hitting the balls today. He like walks off and our dog tweets about it, you know? Like we got to stop with that guys. Guys, this is training camp. If guys miss a day, two days, even three days, it's probably fine, you know? So yeah, let me just go over. - Hang on, before let's make these two picks here 'cause we're about to be on the clock. I have the Q set with ETR ranks. London Pickens, Nico, Jeremiah Love here. London goes, so top by rank is Pickens Collins Love here. - Yeah, I kind of fell behind a little bit on neighbors, so sometimes I take neighbors in this spot also. If you want. - He's gone. - He's gone. - Okay, yeah, then I probably do the back-to-back white receivers here. - Okay. - We'll go pickens to start. - Yeah, man, the neighbor stuff, he's already, he's not here at the two, three turn anymore. - Yeah, I've been taking him there a decent amount, but I had 4%, it was 4% of like good numbers before all this new news, but gosh, I mean, he also correlates with Gibbs, like at that two, three turn. Yeah, I think Love's gonna keep slipping, but it would either be Love or a Lava for me there. - Yeah, what, what's your gut say there? - Gut would be a Lava, I think you can get Love cheaper later. - Yeah, all right, let's do it. Yeah, what's your thought on the Lava? Because he's been one whose ADP bounces around a good bit, I think people are now mostly on board with, he's good to go from a health perspective, they've been telling us that, he's been telling us that, I guess it's just the spectre of like, what if Jordan Tyson is really good? - Or what if Tyler Shucks sucks, you know, like there's definitely some holds. - Yeah. - There's definitely some holds in Lava, and like I was taking Jordan Love there, sorry, Jeremiah Love there, more often than Lava, I just think people are spooked on Love, and now like it would not surprise me you can get Love in a week or so, you know, Tyler, I was yearned, they're keep talking about, and I don't know that James Conner is gonna be gone. I do think Trey Benson's gonna be gone. So yeah, I just think he's gonna keep slipping a little bit. - This just end, they do not believe what you're selling. They're not telling you the truth. Free Mike Leoni School walk out Monday, August 3rd, they're staging a protest to free him from the budget. - Definitely not in Dungeon, but yeah. No, Mike Leoni is freed for sure, and he's gonna be on a ton of shows actually during the season this year. He's doing his Saturday Night lineup building show. We're adding the Man vs. Machine thing, and we're adding the projections context things. So yeah, he's gonna be very busy during the season. - Yeah, that's how the negotiation when he's like, all right, I want a lot of time off this summer, and they said, all right, motherfucker, but you're gonna be on air 24/7. The second the season starts. - I'm curious how you think about the neighbor's thing. Like I said, I had 4% with an average pick around like 40 or 41, or something like that. I feel like I need to catch up a little bit. - Yeah. - But people, but I also think people are now assuming that he's, we're about to fixing, but my point of view is assuming that he's gonna be 100% for sure. There's still some downside outcomes like with his knee for sure, you know? So it's a tough spot. - Yeah, I know, and it's almost just like, do you just get as much now before he pushes up to the early second, 'cause that seems like it's gonna happen. - I mean, yeah, unless he has a setback, but yeah, for sure. - Yeah, tell Ron on to get us some cheaper neighbors here. On the clock, McClaurin Evan Swift Adams by ADP, obviously rankings always love Adams, McClaurin Swift, what do you want to do? - McClaurin. - Yeah, that's our guy here. This one's actually good because Jaden, it would be a pretty big gift if he fell all the way back from this spot. So we get McClaurin, Alavide Pickens. We have Bijan here. The most options are at wide receiver or structurally do you say, hey, we should grab a Tutan here. - I'd say Tutan here. - Yeah. - Yeah, I mean, it's been a pretty good couple weeks for Tutan, not like anything crazy, but yeah, Chris Rodriguez is back in Team Jail's. That was over the weekend while you were ship chasing. But yeah, I think Tutan, especially in BBM is a pretty good bet there. - Yeah, so we get Tutan, our RB2, but yeah, on the neighbor's stuff, I guess that is a good point, right? Where it's like we've seen, the whole neighbor's ADP is just completely responding to whatever the most news report is and we could just as easily get a bearish one of like, oh, the Giants now decide they wanna take things slow with him. - Oh, yeah, and you saw what happened at Pierce Hall. I mean, they were like Pierce Hall was fine all summer and this is different, you know, the PCL thing he never had surgery. Like I think neighbors is gonna be fine. Like he looks amazing running these routes. He's practiced on back-to-back days. Like it's all positive right now, but we've seen guys come back from stuff like this and not be themselves, you know, it's certainly possible. So, you know, it's just tough because if neighbors hadn't been hurt or if it was a clean ACL, we would have had him in the top 12 of the rankings for sure, like for sure. - Yeah, yeah, and I think everyone, the other thing too, it's like we have that wall of running backs that go at the one to turn. I think there's a lot of drafters in that range who would, you know, love to have a wide receiver option that didn't feel like a massive reach. Like it would not be shocking to see the genty cook tailor drafters start to be like, yeah, I wanna pair him with neighbors. - Yeah, I mean, if he's able to practice like back-to-back days and go hard, you know, for a couple of weeks, like, yeah, we're gonna keep moving him up, you know, it's just tough. Like, I think someone Chad also mentioned, you know, he has freaking Nagy and Harbaugh and these boomers, you know, it's, I still like him. I've still taken the top 12 if he was healthy, but yeah, there's definitely some downside risk too. - Right, and it's funny how that entire offense, it's like the only thing is that it feels like a house of cards injury-wise with Skatebo, dark obviously being the kingpin of that and the neighbors where it's like, if all three of those guys stay healthy for 17. games, they're going to melt fantasy faces off. But it also feels like if even one of them is out for a long duration that the offense could really, really struggle. Yeah. And I mean, their coaching staff is a joke too. So yeah. All right. All right. Bijon, Tuton, Pickens, Alavate, McClure, and we'll put Jayden in there. Oh, Jayden goes. So they're not going to let us do that again. That was our go-to. Price met calf Ramon Dre by rank. I don't think we do burrow. We could always entertain naked hurts. What else do you like in this range? Yeah. I mean, we probably wouldn't get McClure. We definitely won't get McClure lemon. But I'm willing to take her hurts here. I was going to price. He went. I think we can we can we can aim for a hurts lemon and then not be distraught if we don't get lemon. Oh, we'll get lemon here. Yeah. If you want to pull them up to 76. Yeah. What's what's lemon's ADP? I like her regardless. Okay. Yeah. We'll grab her tear lemon's ADP's up to 70. Yeah. It's more like it's more like 88 on draft King. So yeah. I mean, yeah. I think it's a little high for lemon. Obviously, we're we're really low on rank. I like lemon as a player. I'm worried about that we're too low on his rank. But certainly when I take her hurts here, I'm willing to take. Yeah. Yeah. And that one. I mean, I feel like I did read there's been some some positive buzz on lemon that they do want to get him involved, which is juxtaposed with the sour stuff, right? Where they're kind of like, yeah, it might be a red shirt here. Well, yeah. We thought that the whole time on Starras, that was probably a red shirt. You're like, they brought Goddard back for that specific reason. Yeah. Easy pick here on on on lemon. Lemon. Yeah. I think if lemon is actually good, they're just going to find ways to get him on the field period. And so your bet really is like, is he actually really, really good? Because I do think down Tavy and Wix is probably going to start on the outside, lemon, playing three wide receiver sets. But if lemon's good, like that won't last that long, he'll be out there in two wide receiver sets. So yeah, we also have them like extremely run heavy. It's just tough from a projection standpoint. But yeah, I could see us being if we miss on lemon clearly, it's going to be too low. You know, so yeah. Yeah. And I guess that's the, it seems like that is the one spot where if you are going to break because you guys, yeah, your rank has met 95, which would be him coming back to us in the eighth round. And then you get into one of those spots, right? Where you're like, yeah, that's a pretty big reach relative to ranking value. But then you look at whatever player we take at pick 95 and you start to do the 1v1s. And it's like, can I win this 1v1 on taking lemon around earlier? I can probably win that in certain scenarios. More importantly, is this a towel show over yet? Or is this still going on? Brother, it's going to be over in about five or six hours. The premiere is right after best ball breakfast, 2 p.m. Eastern, the live premiere of what is the final challenge? This like, what are the, I don't even know what do they do on like the survivor finale? It was the shark tank pitch to me on what show they would do with me if they won the, if they won the contest. I bet some dude, you know, I tweeted something like I wanted a hundred bucks early. And like, I bet some dude. And yeah, so what happened in Neil and who's left? Neil, Neil got bound shortly after you bet on it. I believe the episode right after you bet on it. You pushed him. Yeah. So sorry, unfortunately, the one thing that was going to keep you engaged in the show. Although there are, you know, we're doing some trips down memory lane for the show in the finale. And there were a few levitan clips there as a little call back to your episode. So I want to hear who's left after we pick. Yeah. It's the PPR Tyler, the best ballbrow streamer, Tony Squares, the really good host, who was paired with Farley in the duo week. And Alex Cups, who was paired with Rambus, the guy that you said, get him off my screen. So yeah, I remember all those guys. Yeah, they were all good, for sure. Yep. All right. At 8.11 here by rank. We have Godwin worthy fan in dark pits. Who do you like? Well, let me see. Running back quickly. Yeah. Minungai Dobbins gain well, Mason. I think fan in or running back. Yeah. Let's grab fan in here. I think get that tight end. And then to circle back to running back. Are you going to cool on Minungai with the soft tissue stuff? No, I think he's fine. But I prefer Dobbins. Anyway, if Dobbins stays healthy, he's going to smash this ADP. Obviously, like nobody thinks he possibly can. But yeah, I prefer Dobbins over Minungai. I wouldn't take Godwin with our wide receiver room here. I don't think I think Godwin's okay. I'm worried that he's had too many injuries to like really be a star anymore. Yeah, that's that's an interesting one, too, because I came away bullish like on Godwin, listening to the established the edge podcast on it. You want to grab Dobbins here? I think so. Do you want someone else? No, no, I like Dobbins. But yeah, I mean, it's it's funny, too, because anytime I've done a pro Godwin stuff, like chat, people do not like taking Chris Godwin here. Like, I still think there's room that he could, he could lead that team in targets and that the Ibuka stuff is just a little, little frothy. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's a very wide gap between them. I think Godwin is fine where he goes. I'm just like not excited about it. And I love Chris Godwin, like literally one of my favorite players ever. Shout out PSU. Yeah. And just like loves dogs and yeah. But he's had some really bad injuries, like, and he's I believe over 30 years old now. So yeah. I feel like I do feel like we're starting to enter an era though, right? Like if you I know every situation is unique with these injuries, but if you were to paint it kind of black and white, it's like in new injuries that happen right now, like those are very bad, like, you know, derailing, playing time, started the season, all that stuff. These injuries that are in the rearview mirror as we continue to see with neighbors, with Kittle, with Zack Sharbinay, like these timelines and what these guys are able to do, like almost across the board, they are ahead of schedule from what we ever previously would have assumed. Why aren't we giving Godwin that benefit of the doubt as well when the team's telling us he's fully healthy? Yeah, he's just older and he's had multiple of these injuries, you know, the broken leg and the ACL, but yeah, I don't disagree. My first thought was everybody I know out here, all these like, I hang out with a lot of washed up college and like pro and high school athletes out here, like really washed up and everybody is on peptides and they all are like crushing me because, hey, I suck, but be also like, they're just either a little bit younger than me and they're on these peptides and I was like, it just hit me one day. I was like, oh, these NFL guys are taking peptides, but then I went on NFL site and I realized that peptides are banned. They claimed they're testing for them, but like this BP 157 shit, I'm telling you man, if that's what these guys are taking somehow and it's not getting caught by the NFL, that shit works. Like, like you're seeing like 40-year-old former athletes feel 2x, 3x better than they did previously just by injecting themselves with these peptides. Are you having to now drug test your opposition for tennis props to make sure they're not on these things? I was playing Drew Shore, he used to play in the NHL, like ridiculous athlete. He started beating me and I was like, and I was crushing him. I won like out of the first 30 times we played, I probably won 27 and lately he's been beating me. I'm like, dude, you're on fucking peptides, testosterone, God knows what. I'm 43 years old, I have fucking cancer. I just had surgery. Yeah, and so I've been losing lately, so yes, I want them drug tested. There you go. All right, we are about to pick here again at 10/11, we have Hertz, we have Beijan-Juton-Dobbins at running back, Pickens-A-Lava, McClure, and Levin at Wide Receiver, Fanon, Kittle Falling-Dobbins. What's the Goddard ADP? Goddard ADP is much lower, 134. What about Shuck ADP? Shuck ADP, good question, 123, so we would need to do it with one of these two picks. I'd probably try to take him with the, with the second pick. Yeah, can I see running back? Yeah, running back, we're in the Seerod Tracy Keaton Mitchell range, so yeah, that has gotten a little wiped as well. Yeah. But Seerod with Tuton, we're probably not doing. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, normally I would take Kittle here, we kind of already kind of burned it with Fanon, and I think we need Goddard, but I'd probably, I'd probably consider going three tight ends here, I guess. What do you think about that? I'm just going to put Shuck in just to give us a little bit of extra time, since we're going to do that with the second one anyways. He might go Kittle having no tight ends, but that's fine. Yeah. Yeah, I guess it's like how exposed do you feel at running back? I guess Beige on Tuton Dobbins is a fine three here still. Yeah. So it's basically, do you want to grab like a wide receiver value in Dobbs Concepcion or just pull up Goddard for the stack? When it's close like this, I lean against, I lean wide receiver. I'd probably go Concepcion over Dobbs though. What do you think? Yeah, let's do it. So we'll go double wide receiver. And this kind of gets at why the lemon price is kind of tricky, right? Because it's like you have two first round wide receivers who didn't go that far apart. And one of them you have to pay, pick 74 or the other, it's 122. Yeah, I mean, Eagles are going to be very run heavy. There's no doubt. It's just like, if lemon is actually legit good, I think yeah, he's going to be like, I don't think it's going to be a bad price on lemon. I don't think it's going to go like horrific, especially on draft Kings. This is a little bit higher on draft Kings. He goes closer to 90 usually. Yeah. Would you ever take him as a one offer? Is it going to be exclusively with Hertz in on underdog at this price? Yeah, with our rank, I it's pretty much exclusively with Hertz, but I take a lot of Hertz. So I take a lot of Hertz and Daniels. Yeah. And then so you're looking back on the wide receivers in this range. You know, it's like Wilson P-- in Sutton, I think, you know, I think it's fair to have to pay a premium on lemon. It's just a weird thing with his price and being hurt over there that you never even get a lemon slide because the hurt strafters taking a lot. So it's basically just, I mean, he's like the ultimate exposure blanket you're gonna want, like four to five percent, mostly with hurts, and you just suck it up in case he is this year's league winner. Yeah. I'm like, look at the gap between like lemon and golden, you know, like, I think that's just like too wide of a gap. Like, golden goes really late there. I, you know, he's going to be out there on every snap, I think, for, um, Jordy love. So we have hurts, uh, with lemon, and we have a shock here with, uh, a larvae. How are you, how are you feeling about the Saints offense on the whole? Are you in on some of the other cheaper pieces? Are you doing the Camara? Are you buying the splitting first team rap stuff? No, I'm going to, uh, I'm not talking, uh, forget if I'm talking about it today or not. But, uh, but yes, I think Alvin Camara, like, was like a charity thing to bring him back. He was arguably the worst running back in the NFL last year. I do not think the Saints wanted to bring him back. I think they felt like they're being mutiny if they cut him. And so they bring him back. I, I only take Camara with Shuck and I don't even take him that much. I do like Joanne Johnson, I would put him, uh, in the queue. And I do like 20th round Velae, I take sometimes on draft kings. I would, I probably wouldn't do that on the under on your dog, but maybe if I needed a last round wide receiver in BBM. We got some followers here, ADP wise, uh, Goddard does go, uh, Tracy and Woody Marks are the running back followers. I did put Joanne Johnson in the queue. You also have like the Omar Cooper or McMillan stripling range at wide receiver. And I will not mention Jalen Naylor. Tracy goes, uh, what do you think here? Yeah. I mean, not on. What do you say? Solver likes Joanne. Yeah, we could probably get him in 146. I might take Marks here just to improve our running back room a little bit. If we hadn't taken so much wide receiver early, though, I would have taken stripling here. I think he's going to keep rising. There's going to be more camp buzz and it will not be long before stripling is going in like the 120's, I don't think. That's interesting. Uh, uh, we are back here. So we could, we don't have to force Joanne here. If you don't want to 156, he's probably not coming back. So it's basically you want stripling or Joanne here. Um, I probably correlate with, with Joanne, but I like that. Um, yeah. I, I, the only reason I could see that not happening is just if the market kind of plays it as a one or the other thing with Debo and Debo, Debo is kind of already rocketed up to that range. Yeah. Um, I think the market's going to like both. And like we're going to have, there's going to be days where it's like, Oh, Christian McCaffrey said, I'll practice today or, or like George Kiddles having slow time with his rehab. And that's going to send these guys even higher, you know? So I, I think that stripling where he goes now is like going to be the lowest that you get him. Probably. Shout out to all 813 of you watching live on Monday. We're here with Adam Levitan from established the run. Also, if you guys want to get the solver, which you see up here on screen, you get the suggestions here. If you have the ETR ranks and then my favorite part, combinatorial tool here, I can go and see that 9.1% of my B. John Robinson teams have the John stripling on them and none of them have Breton strange. So if I really wanted to make sure I had a B. John Robinson Breton strange team, this tool would alert me to that hole in Mark Portfolio and you can get 20% off with promo code Pete. Did you hear how big of a day it was for the channel? We announced our first ever coffee sponsor for the show, Adam. Wow. What is that? Vassaleros and Suns coffee, the official sponsor, the best ball breakfast coffee now. Don't laugh. You know what we haven't talked about yet? Uh-oh. I'm talking to the richest guy that I know and a lot of people are assuming, oh, Adam must say if Pete overs at and Jack Settelman and John Dagle and Bales and Jennings have underdog equity, well, Adam Levitan must also. Let me assure you, as a man of the people, I passed on an opportunity to invest in underdog seed stage because I said, I don't want people to think that I'm biased towards one platform. You're a man of the people when you have integrity like Adam Levitan, you say, I don't want everybody to think Adam's biased towards underdog. He's an investor. He can't be objective in his analysis. Or I could write one check, do nothing for six years and end up with a seven figure bag. Why would I want to do that when I could be buying triceratops skulls and jolly fucking jokers and fucking top shots and fucking stupid ass shit? Why would I write a check to underdog because of my fucking integrity and end up with zero and watching Pete overs at, I'm happy for you Pete overs at. Hey, we also we also both invested in Lucky Trader and that worked out well for us. On the clock, around the clock, there is Camara here, I'll put him on this shut team, TJ Hawkins and Brian Robbins said, we're going to take Camara. I can. You just just take whatever. Why even live? Are you even going to keep doing this show once this clears? I mean, what's what? Keep doing this show. I just got a coffee sponsor. Of course. All right, let's figure out this pick again and then we can talk about how you didn't invest in underdog because you were a hashtag DK partner at the time. I wasn't. I wasn't. You were working with DK then, weren't you? Should we get a wide receiver here, Ridley and I Mitchell, Judy and Tony Williams cup. I like Mitchell most that of those guys. Yeah, let's grab Mitchell here as our wide receiver six. Hurtshuck, Bijan Tutton, Dobbins, Woody Marks, Alan Camara, Pickens, Alave, Terry McClure and McCoy Lemmon, Casey Concepcion, 80 Mitchell, Harold Fanon, and Johan Johnson. No, there was a spot for you on that investor round and then they gave it to Jeff Epstein. Instead, they were debating you to move to it. I mean, like when I'm watching and like people are sending me, like people are texting me, like normies, they're like texting me. And then like people are shoving this fucking graphic with a list of names down my esophagus. It's been like really tough to go on. Like my friend was like, man, what's worse, like not like passing on the underdog thing or thyroid cancer. It's not even close, like, it's really not even close, but yeah, and like, yeah, but Jeremy is just unbelievable. I mean, I, you know, I've known Jeremy a long time. He's absolutely unbelievable to get that done. So seriously, I, in all jokes aside, congrats to Jeremy and Pete and Peter and everybody. It's an incredible, incredible thing. I'm a bit happy for the community being rich. I hope everyone doesn't like quit, but I'm legit happy. Yeah. No, Jared, yeah. I mean, the fact, I mean, you said it in your tweet too, like six years to create a billion dollar company and six years in this competitive of a space is wild. And I do think like it's, and I think you are a reliable narrator. You know, people say, Pete, you're biased. You're wearing an underdog shirt. Yada, yada. But people are very concerned about the games on underdog, you know, a lot of the, from my perspective, the bad stuff that happened with the trimming and all of that getting their books ready for the sale, all of that, like the bad stuff has already happened. Like the team that they have now in place, it is essentially a rounding error on their books. They're going to let these guys continue to cook. They're going to let them make bestball contests. I don't think we have anything to worry about right now. Not to mention, the sale still is going to be months and months away from being final. But what are your thoughts? We'll make these picks and I'm just kind of curious because you talked about it a little bit, the ecosystem, because there are a lot of people who I get why there's concern there I should say. Yeah, I don't think there's a correlation between content and the actual games. Like I was part of the Draft Team's pro program from 2015 to 2019 or so. And like once they've shuttered the Draft Team's program, take whoever you want. Let's see here. Not prior. Do you, are you a Martian Lloyd guy? Yeah, take him. Yes, he's a good pig. And then let's get. So we have a 2562. I think we're probably good at quarterback, we're down to, to dust and then tight ends also wiped out. So we're probably looking at another wide receiver here, cut Pat Bryant, Mooney, Booty, Thornton, Noel. Oh, do you want to do the Vela thing? I, I, this is the, yeah, I would probably take Vela and BBM. Is this 18 though? No. It's 17. Yeah. Is there someone else you want before him? Mayor Vela or Vela mayor, but yeah, I think we, we should be able to get mayor. He's even slightly behind. Okay. Yeah. So, like when Draft Kings decided to shutter the DK Pro program, like that, that did not have any effect on the games. Yes, it was like Hayden and Josh were incredible for promoting underdog and getting people into the games. I don't think that like the problem when you don't do content and marketing around fantasy or basketball is, it's harder to attract new players. Like when Draft Kings was on TV, when underdog was on TV being like, come play at Draft Kings, come play at underdog fantasy. That makes a huge difference in getting new people into the games. But in terms of actually running the games, like I think the games are continuing to run. I think they're going to be able to continue to run well and like, that'll be fine. But yeah, I understand why people are concerned. I do think that unlike the situation and Cal tweeted about this, I retweeted it like the situation that when Jeremy first sold draft to Fandall, they had a CEO change and that changed everything. I don't think this is the same plan where the acquired company is just going to immediately shut her best ball. Like I do not think that's the plan at all. I don't have no insight. I don't think I do not think that is what will happen. No, it's the fact that the best ball operation is so lean. Obviously, it made us upset at the time because we love the larger community and having devs and more people coming up with ideas for games, yada yada. But if the team felt fat to CEO, C-suite level people, that's when they're like, all right, let's slash this. But again, it's going to work in our favor, I think ultimately, that it is such a lean team that's able to do so much. Yeah. And I mean, when you're preparing for like, I say, like you get paid on like a lot of stuff is done on multiples, multiples of your EBITDA. And so if you shave a bunch of money off, the books are EBITDA is going to look a lot better, you know? So it doesn't mean that they want higher back people or whatever. It's all going to depend on how it goes for underdog and prediction markets, you know, and we'll see, you know. So when you guys have to shave at ETR to look attractive to a potential, you know, let me tell you, yes, there's, there's dozens and dozens of people beating down the door for DFS and fantasy, fantasy projections, believe me. All right. We have one final pick here. You have, you have entered a much more chill era of drafting. We literally had to take whoever you want with no tilt, even within your voice, you're a new man. Yeah. Well, the time that I got really angry is on here when we're doing the big dog, like you want to burn your $25, burn your $25, but we're not burning $250 of my dollar. And $250 of your dollars, I guess now you can. Pete can just go around burning $100 bills, $250, $1K is no problem. But for men of the people, we need to be locked in for the 500s. For the 25s. Yeah. Take whoever you want. So I guess that now's not a good time to say where you ever going to do a big dog that we co-manage together. Yeah. Let's do it. I need to win. I mean, money. I need to win. I need to win the big dog. Did you do with Stowers on a team like this, or is he dead to you, Pat Bryant, Kaylyn Black, Salver suggestions? Yeah. I think Stowers is kind of likely to be a zero, but on this team, I would take him, yeah. I am too much Stowers here, seeing the 17.1%, there was a lot of Stowers clicking earlier this off season. Yeah. Well, pre NFL drafts, Stowers was definitely a really good pick. It's just like the landing spot is tough, you know. Yeah. I don't think he can play in line. So you're going to ask him, can he beat out one of Wicks or Lemon for Rouse? I mean, it'll be like special packages, like maybe he gets 10 routes of game at first. And if he plays well, maybe he'll get more, but they're going to have to take a wide receiver off the field as my point. He can't really play in line. So if that's true, then you think there's also not much contingent value. If Goddard went down, we get the Calcuttair thing and he just stay in the same role. Yes. Which isn't good. It's not there to be a little contingent upside to a guy who's not going to play a bunch. Yeah. He'd probably play a little bit more. And maybe he'll get better as a blocker. But like from what everybody's saying, including like prospect bro scouts, Eagles coaches, like he is just not ready to block it at the in line level. So you're saying the contingent value for Stowers is someone like Lemon or Wicks actually getting getting hurt? I think it's or Devonte, yeah. Yeah. I mean, Stowers, like some of the prospect bro's thought Stowers did like AJ Brown type things like Stowers is sick wide receiver. There's no doubt. Do you think is Hollywood going to be an issue at all like stealing some routes? Or do you think he's going to be a non factor? That's another reason that we're lower than market on lemon like I we shouldn't I don't think we should really let Hollywood Brown, you know, like get a cloud us. But yeah, he's going to make the team and they're paying him a little bit. We gave him some targets. You know, once you start giving all these guys targets, it's just, it can be harder to get there. Yeah, he doesn't crack your your BBM ranks, which again, he's not he's not draftable. He could certainly he could make Wix be a little bit more of a land mine than any of us want him to be. But I would say the reporting and stuff on Wix has been pretty encouraging. Uh, yeah. I mean, he's going to start. I think they're going to play plenty of two wide receiver sets and Wix will probably start there. But I think lemon will overtake him. You know, I actually think lemon is really good. I think he'll overtake him. I mean, we have a hundred grand gap. It's just market is just really excited about lemon. And yeah, I mean, I get it. Yeah, I think I've been kind of going out of my way to try to get more Wix, even on non Hertz teams. Just I do think there's multiple ways he can get there. Like you said, fast start, maybe lemons a little slower and then still like three wide receiver set. Could he have a spike week and a big eagle shoot out in the playoffs? I could still totally see that even with lemon coming on. For sure. And like, yeah, you know, I've lost a lot of money on Wix and DFS when he's gotten spotted, you know, like a lot. So I'm maybe a little bit biased against Wix there, too, where he's had some spots where he should have played really well for the Packers and he had crazy opportunity and just just did it. You know, so that's at least in my mind also on Wix. Yeah, and it is interesting to just say, I mean, like the Packers treated him. Like you said, there were some spots where they were forced to use him when they had injuries, but otherwise they always kept him in kind of a limited capacity. You just never know what the coaching change like. What if they think this guy deserves to be out there, all the snaps and then you throw in his, you know, career efficiency and it's like all of a sudden, man, he could be, you know, the comp I was having for him and I know this isn't like a super exciting comp, but it kind of reminds me of Troy Franklin at the beginning of last season where it was like Pat Bryant's probably going to come on and you're probably going to get shoved to the side at the end of the season, but you could probably help advance a lot of teams early. Sure. Sure. Come on. All right. That's how you get everyone excited about David Wix. He's this year's Troy Franklin. All right. Here's the team. Levitan, Jalen Hertz, Tyler Schuck, B. John Robinson, Basel Tutton, J.K. Dobbins, Woody Marks, Camara, Marsh on Lloyd, Pickens, Alave McClaurin, Lemon, Casey Concepcion, Eddie Mitchell and Baylay, Harold Fanon, Jawan Johnson, Stowers. I know you were slightly distracted as you thought about what could have been as an underdog investor. Otherwise, Miss Lincoln, how did you like the play? Yeah. So my concern on builds like this is like does the running back room have enough upside to get there in the playoffs because we don't really have like the one injury way guys. So when you get like a big B or a Ray Davis type, at least there's runouts you can see where the starter goes down and then in the playoffs, I have a total smash. If Dave Montgomery went down, I wouldn't be like that excited about Woody Marks. I'm already not excited about Camara. We want to have a correlation. And I'm not sure that Marsh on Lloyd can ever get more than like 10 or 12 touches in a game even if Josh Ackles was suspended or hurt. So like I think the running back room is okay. It's just when you do stuff like this where you take B-John and then Tuton and then you don't pick again until like four later round guys, it's hard to find the upside. But there's the way people used to draft like what it was literally one year ago. Every was like this is the way you're supposed to draft really wide receiver heavy Elite quarterback and so yeah, part of my thought with these kind of teams and I've been doing more wide receiver centered teams lately, especially on draft Kings is just this, we've had two years of running back health, not much running back chaos, a reversion to running backs getting injured at a higher rate than wide receiver and more running back chaos. And these wide receiver heavy teams are really good, especially on draft games. Well you have made a lot less excited about Marsh on Lloyd. If you don't think he could crack 15 carries a game without Jacobs. I mean, I hope he can, I take him as just do you feel good that he's going to be able to survive that? I mean, I mean, all the stuff that they say, you know, he's a new man, he's healthy, I mean, it's fair to be concerned. But I guess like, will he get, will he hold up? So you're saying that they might manage him with the hopes of protecting him. If, yeah, if Josh A. Gobs something happens to him suspension or injury, I'm almost certain they're going to add someone James Conner, Trade Benson, Kendra Miller, Naji Harris. I'm sure there's more running backs available that I'm not thinking, you know, Jerome Ford, like they're going to add people to that room for sure. All right, Levitan, I normally save this for Sam or Pat. But I've been drinking free coffee because Vasselerus and Sons is now my official coffee sponsor all morning. I have to go to the bathroom right now and I am going to tee you up for a monologue that you can do for a minute or you can just hang out with the chat here. Yeah, I put in some, put in some questions on the answer as many as I can about anything. Yes. People were talking about Hollywood brown earlier. Let's get, let's get a few questions here for Levitan. And then I am going to head to the bathroom here. How about this? You know, I wrote about this in the fantasy life newsletter on Saturday. Basically, is there a cautionary tale to learn with Debo in these other impending free agent wide receivers? I use the example of, hey, are we going to not like our price on Antonio Williams and Chigaconco, if Stephon digs signs with the commanders? Are we going to be pretty spooked on Josh Downs now going in the 80s if they sign Keenan Allen? How are you thinking about that? Yes. That's why we do the unlisted stuff in our rankings. We have Washington and indeed for a ton of unlisted targets. In other words, we have attempts for Daniel Jones and Jane Daniels, but we don't have them going to anyone yet because we expect them to sign someone. So that is factored in to the rankings. It's one of the reasons we've been so far behind. I'm sure you could conco in the ranks and we're like slightly behind on downs also. So yeah, I mean, that's stuff matters. I undersold it last year on the Keenan Island Lad Maconky thing and that was certainly a mistake. All right. Be Karen says, how do you feel about a team with Tony Pollard as the running back six? I would not be taking Tony Pollard as my running back six. Like if I took that many running backs early, Pollard is just like an advanced great guy. I'm talking about him on market Monday, actually. So yeah, we'll talk more about him. Keith Jones nines says, how do you truly feel about Pete deep down? I love Pete. I mean, I've known over that he first like was doing the man's thing. This was me and Bales were like working on fantasy labs. This was like maybe 2015 and over that like came to Philly where me and Bales were and did like a he was like, do you guys want to do a bro laugh on and we did it and it was great. It was really like 10 or 11 years ago, maybe more. Yeah. So I liked Pete better when he was doing the man's bit than the actual winning, touting invest store bit. But yes, love Pete. Let me see. Well, I was remembering too when I was thinking about when I had touch base with Jeremy about underdog way back when and that was on the heels of when we did our Yosemite trip and that was when Jennings was doing all those slow drafts on draft, because that was I want to say the last season before draft shuttered when they sold and then there was that gap when they were spinning up underdog that's like Jennings back of the day. I don't know if people realize like the volume he was putting in on those other special sites. Yeah. He still is. I mean, he's I think he's 150 in the 55 or something crazy. I mean, he's he's he's grinding for sure. Do you do you still do you see him every day as he's still part of the gym crew? You guys have that? Is he on the peptides? Oh, I'm sure he's I'm sure everybody is like the dude you understand that was the thing about all the health stuff to like everybody I know is doing all the scans and everything and like I knew I was in a bubble, but so many people messing me that had never even heard of pre novo or any of these like kind of scans and I kind of feel the same way about peptides like everyone I know here knows everything about them, but most I feel like normies have no idea what BP 157 is, you know, at all, like never even heard of it. Yeah. Um, let's see here it 1110 when I was actually doing there, well, I didn't even have to go to the bathroom. I wanted to see if you had the skills to become a solo best fall streamer. Uh, what are you would you ever have you've never done have you done it? I mean, you obviously do the solo pod, but have you ever done a solo best fall stream? Uh, yeah, uh, I have, yeah, um, and I, I, yeah, I like doing the some of the high stakes ones. I think people like that. So yeah, I might, I might do that, uh, for sure, um, yeah. And then sometimes when silver, like I'm on a show with silver and we're live and like, you know, he can't tech lord or whatever. I'm on their solo for a bit. Um, yeah, the, the joint pod with, with silver quickly turns into a, yeah, let me just answer a few more of his questions really quick. Part says, have I capitulated big pickle ball as a tennis player? Um, I play a little bit of pickle ball. I like playing singles pickle ball doubles. Pickle ball is not for me, but singles pickle ball is actually a legit good game. If anybody wants to play, I'll give you the same challenge I have in tennis. If I've never seen you play and you didn't play in college, 500 bucks, uh, you know, you can come beat me if you think you can beat me. So hit me up if you want to do that in singles pickle ball or tennis. You do have to, uh, escrow the money, uh, cope, copy pays the leads, it's thoughts on they really get not good enough at football, a word in sports as what is your favorite contest structure? This is what I wanted to mention. If people were complaining about this, I don't know if that Friday, whatever one they did. Oh, that is an incredible structure that two of 12 and then one of two, one of two and then like, uh, uh, 28 person final or 50 person final or something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I thought that was awesome. I tried to do, I tried to get in those, um, to the max. I forget what it was. Maybe it's two max or something. So yeah, I thought that was an awesome structure. The heads up stuff is awesome. Well, it's just so fun. Like the whole point of what they do with these franchise is like creative structures, new things, just drop it in little, you know, time box contest, maybe, maybe you don't vibe with it. Maybe it's not your price point. Whatever. They're trying new things out. Like the course, I don't like this one, it's like, okay, then wait till next Friday when there's another one, or just don't play this and don't, don't play it. Like, there's been complain, just don't play it. Yeah. I think I thought that was an awesome structure. Like anything between like 50 bucks and 200 that has like, reasonable advance rates in 15 and 16. I'm probably going to think is a good structure for me. You know, I like that because like, yeah, once I advance, like, I, yeah, I don't, the ones that are, you know, one of 16 or one of 12 and week 15 and 16 and a one week thing are like really tough for me to get excited about. Yeah. What, uh, how much are you, you're going to be locking in at your computer to get in all the, the high stakes drafts you need to here before the start of the season? Yeah, I'm trying, but we got so much going on ETI, I really got to be locked in on that. Yeah. Are you going to grind it to an Elb on preseason DFS or is even that your attention getting pulled from? Yeah, I can't, I can't. I mean, the guys are on it, you know, Sean and Cody and Alex are on it. First game is Thursday. Like, there's definitely still a really good edge in in preseason, but yeah, I just, I just don't have time. I wish. Uh, I don't believe we ever did. Did we do a proper recap of this team? I know we talked about the running backs. Did you have thoughts on anything else with the, uh, the squad we drafted here? No, I, I, I like it, you know, I, I, I like it. Uh, you know, obviously Jalen with Devante is, is better, but I get into these spots where I, I take Jalen just because I don't like that range. Jalen hurts and Jalen, I don't like that range that much with other positions. So yeah, that's, that's one I had been thinking about lately in that, I end up taking Daniels, right? A ton in that mid six when it gets flat and trying to think how much of the time, you know, do I want that always to be Jaden or is May right there with him? Obviously hurts as well, or for you is Jaden kind of in a slight tear ahead of those guys. Yeah, we have Jaden ahead in, in rank of decent amount. Um, yeah, I thought Jaden's rookie year was like one of the best rookie years a quarterback can have. Um, last year with disaster, a, by the way, he's on quarterback. The Netflix show right now and like, I've been watching, I watched the first two episodes. Um, it just starts off bad with me. And then shoulder and like, yeah, I think if he can sustain health though and they add step digs, I really like Jaden Daniels for sure. You mentioned thinking, uh, struggling, uh, could be a big riser here, who anyone else there, you know, going after 150 right now that you're kind of circling of like, I just see things getting out of control with the buzz. Um, I'm talking about Bigsby on market Monday. He's, he's been steaming pretty hard and like, yeah, I've been taking a lot of him from for a while. So I'm okay with him steaming up and like kind of passing just because at some point, when you get his like the 140s, 150s, I feel like you need some stand alone value, you know, and I think tank basement have a little bit this year, but I wouldn't swear to it, you know? So it's tougher for me there as he gets more expensive, I think. Yeah. What about, I assume he's probably a guy on market Monday. You're going to touch. Is, is Blue's ADP actually rising or is that just buzz right now? Jaden Blue? Oh, it's definitely rising. I think I, I think I've talked about him. But yeah, I don't, I like Jaden Blue for sure. Um, I think kind of the reverse of Bigsby where he will have, will have a stand alone role as like a pass catcher. I mean, Javonte was not a good pass catcher, receiving stuff last year was bad. I could see him having a stand alone role there, pass catching, which is obviously more valuable than the Bigsby, maybe six carries, you know, between the 20s, not very valuable. So yeah, I still like Jaden Blue where he goes, I think. But Chad is shocked that you're watching quarterback. Is this with the, with the boys? Yeah, they love it. They love it. We like watching it. And yeah, you know, I, I, of course, that white deathbed theorem doesn't mean like never watching TV. It's like, it's like the people that are just like, their whole life is like, I can't wait to get home and binge watch whatever's on Netflix. Like, I, you know, I think you're going to regret that, but maybe I'll be wrong. I actually, yeah, I, uh, I've been wanting to circle back to that. I really like the, I watched the, the Kurt Cousins season when he got benched for, for penics in, in burrow. I think it was in that one. It's, it's good stuff. It's well done. I find it even more compelling than the, the hard knocks at this point. Yeah. Yeah. It's really good. Yeah. I don't really watch the hard knock stuff as much anymore, just because, I mean, they focus so much on these dustball players. It's not that interesting. Like, we know the bit that these guys are grinding so hard to try to make the team, you know, or they're going to be working it safe way. Like, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's a good bit. It's going on for so long. It's funny. You say that I hadn't really thought about it from that perspective where they have to make a decision. Are they going to try to make a show that significant others and people who wouldn't otherwise care about football might want to watch where they do fall in love with the Danny Woodhead and, you know, Rex Ryan calling them a little fucker out there or, or did they just say, hey, let's be honest, the people who are going to be watching this are hardcore football fans who care about the skill position players. That's just profile anyone who's fantasy relevant. Well, and they are making that change where they're doing in season hard knocks, which I thought was really cool. I'd love to watch in season hard knocks. I just don't have time, you know, so like, but in season hard knocks is fascinating to me. They're actually getting really behind the scenes on games and situations that actually matter, you know? Yes. Chad wants to know. I mean, this was one of the things breaking over the weekend. We had two chiefs injury schedule. shares, Cyrus Allen, Xavier Worthy. Did you guys make any adjustments based on what happened? - No, and I just want to be clear, like for people that don't follow this stuff year over year, the chiefs always give rookies first round reps in camp. It does not mean anything. This is like what they do. So when you see like Cyrus Allen is getting first team reps or Emma Johnson is getting first team reps, like that might be good or it might be nothing. Like the chiefs do this every year with their dusty rookies and typically doesn't correlate to anything regular season wise. - Well, yeah, not to mention they also like, is there an organization who slow plays their rookies more? I mean, other than what, like Clyde Edwards Alleya and stuff, I mean, they are notorious for keeping them on the pine for a long time. - Yeah, for sure, for sure. Chad, we talked about neighbors at the start of the draft. If you want to go back and watch that TLDR, he's going to get even more expensive than the two, three turn there. Levitan, what else do you got going? I'm going to let you go here. You mentioned Market Monday, anything else people should keep an eye out for? - Yeah, people are really like the, that we had all like 12 ETR guys do a season long draft and like really tried to highlight the difference between best ball and season long in terms of like strategy and player take. So people like that on the YouTube later this week, Market Monday on the show and then on the channel. And then Silva News and Rankings Changes and then we'll have Harmon on the show. - Nice. Popular shows each year. Talked to Harmon about a bunch of guys. Also coming up on the show next week, Men vs. Machine and our auction show. So, be sure you're subscribed on the YouTube machine on ETR is free. - Well, Levitan, I know you don't want to miss out on the next great thing. So I'm going to let you know, we're going to be raising money here at Best Ball Breakfast, LLC. And we'll reach out to you to see if you want to make it the best of it. Not miss out of the next billion dollar operation. - Last thing I'll say about the business stuff, I do want to get this off my chest. It's like when you start stuff and Pete can say the same thing, like when he started this stuff, when we started ETR, we had never in a million years thought Best Ball would be a revenue generator for us. It was like, Best Ball was like NFL 10s and that's it. We never thought in a million years there'd be like betting and like props and prediction markets. Like if you stay in the game for long enough, like things happen, you know? So there's like a lot of value I think and just staying in the game and seeing what happens next. And that's like something I've learned for sure. You know, we started, we didn't even have projections when we started ETR, you know? It's like, you stay in the game long enough and good things can happen if you do it the right way. So that was like something from Jeremy's perspective. They started as a fantasy site. Then they got into the Picklem stuff, which was like a huge boost. They got a prediction sports book. They got a prediction market. That was not the plan for the beginning. That's just like, stay in the game. Do a really good job of what you do. And then it can run out to 1.3 billion, you know? So yeah, that was like the only actual, really good takeaway I had from that also. - Appreciate it, dude. I will catch you on next week's Best Ball Breakfast. Good luck with everything. Check out Market Monday and all of the other good stuff at ETR. We'll see you soon. - All right, buddy, be good. - Peace. All right, welcoming to the stage. Fresh off of a one week hiatus, Sam Sherman, the defending Best Ball media champ, how are we doing? - I'm good, Pete. I saw some updates over the weekend of the ship chasing event in Austin. That looked like a lot of fun. How was that? - It was a good time. Yeah, very fun time. We all drank too much on Friday. We did a ton of drafts on Saturday, which was fun. And then Sunday we were out on the boat there on Lake Travis. And yeah, good time, although, working on like four hours of sleep today. So I'm dragging, but we're doing good. - Nice. Yeah, it looked like a lot of fun. It saw some videos of people like wake boarding or something on the boat, that looked awesome. Yeah, it looked like a good time. - There was some pickleball that broke out one of the nights, one of the places we went to. And there were some, you know, Korean was out there playing. And, you know, there were some mentions about you guys in your tennis game. And yeah, Korean was telling us how good your backhand was. - Oh, okay. Next year we can do some tennis lessons at the ship chasing meetup, I'll schedule that. So I got to know one of these years. - Yeah. - You do. Yeah, I mean, what was your excuse this year? - Dude, I have like 10 weddings this summer and I'm also moving. So that, yeah, I just, it can make it work this summer. But next year, next year. - I, I reen, I didn't know you were Korean mentioned that. I didn't know what, is this official? Is this on, did you mention this on another show that you're for sure moving? - Yeah, for sure moving. It was a bit of a last minute plan, but my fiance and I had sort of plans for a while to move out of Boston. We didn't think we were gonna be able to make it work like right before our wedding in September, but we are ripping off the bandaid and headed out. So, yeah, started to like pack up all, I don't know, you can maybe even see in the background, started to like pack up boxes and stuff in the apartment. So yeah, it's exciting, but doing a lot of things it wants, getting, getting married, moving, it's gonna be kind of a chaotic up months. - Well, yeah, you're doing the, the BBM pilgrimage here. So, you know, it's, it makes that, it makes, I mean, what, Liam, Liam, I think moved to Florida, maybe he was, or he's in Florida. - Yeah, so you gotta go somewhere, warm weather. I mean, for Reed, I think for Reed still in Vegas, so that's the warm weather. That BBM five winner, no one ever heard from him, so we know nothing about him. - Yeah, basically, basically doesn't exist. So, if you're not gonna tweet about your win every other day, that did it ever happen, you know? - Exactly, exactly, what's the point of, it's not, you don't win for the financial benefit, you win to, you know, rub it in people's face on X every day. So, anyways, in football news, I'm pretty excited that we're actually getting some, you know, I think I missed last week, some news probably started to trickle in, but I feel like we had a month there, Pete, of just being starved for any crumb of news, and now we have it coming in hot. So, it'll be, it'll be fun to talk through it. - Yeah, what's your, what's your official take on the Niners, they're obviously kind of the hottest, - Yeah, I think they hear D-Bose dribbling where you at. - I think they're both like, I would probably slightly prefer dribbling. I think they're pretty close together. I think in the tier of water severs, near like Shakir, Shaheed, O'Markooper, Travis Hunter, I think that's the tier I would slot them in. And then again, I think it's like, I don't think there are amazing picks there. So that's why I wear it, I have them ranked, but I'm still very open to taking them around that price. Where have they risen to in ADP at this point? I haven't seen the latest. - Yeah, so D-Bose at 142, I saw him go in the 130s in my first draft, dribbling at 146, he also went a little bit ahead of this. I did get updated ETR ranks. So they have straddling at 132, verse 146, and then D-Bose, they have at 125, verse 142. So there still is some meat on the bone, as far as value according to the ranks. - Yeah, I think I would agree with that. I mean, I obviously like straddling a lot better when he was free, but I still think it's an offense I want to bet on. It's still very fragile with Evans coming up a down year, Kittle, even though I'm also bullish on Kittle, he is coming up a tour in Achilles. There's opportunity for playmakers there. So I still want to bet on the Shanahan system with straddling, even at that cost. It's a pretty, you think, I did a Baker backstack, and you're like, okay, like Aughton, Jalen McMillan, Hurst, it's not the worst thing, but the fact that you can do pretty Kittle, D-Bose, straddling now, all after pick one round. - Yeah. - If you can get a slight value on a naked party, like that's a nice backstack there. - It is, and it used to be, you have to take like, D-B-O-I-U-Kittle all in the first four rounds, back in the day, right? And yeah, it's the cheapest prices we're getting in the 49ers in a long time. - All right, on the clock at 112, yeah. Yeah, it's gonna say, I like James Cook here. Well, grab him as the first pick. It's probably, I go Barclay or Walker, usually as one of the next two. I haven't done a Cook Walker, should we do that? - Yeah, let's do that. I was gonna say, like, mix up the combos. I feel like we maybe even did a Cook Barclay already, so let's mix it up and go Walker there. - Yeah, I was looking at the Solvertool 54 and a half percent of my Cook teams have Barclay. So that's clearly the chalk combo there. And I mean, this would be a spot, right? Like, I think we probably both slightly prefer Barclay, but what, same tier, similar upside, that's probably a spot to diversify the combo a little bit. - Agree. And I also, I think I posted about this on X, but over the weekend, like, I do think Walker is running back that people underrated his receiving upside a little. This is a guy who, you know, he came into the league and you looked at this prospect profile. He had very little track record of receiving, but since entering the league, I think he's actually been pretty competent at it. Back in 2020, even, that was the year with, man, I always forget this coordinator's name. and grub the guy from Washington, that one year he was coordinating the offense. Walker was on pace for over 70 receptions around 90 targets on a 17 game pace in that season. They're really feeding him the ball and receiving game. Look at the chief's offense now. You got the injury stacking up obviously, but even without the injuries, like it's a pretty weak wide receiver core there. So I could see him. They always have these guys who are heavily featured in like the screen gimmicky touches phase of the game. I wouldn't be surprised if Walker gets like a heavy dose of sort of the designary screens and touches in the chief's passing game. So I'm just overall pretty excited about it in this year. It would it would seem kind of crazy if they didn't do that. I mean, he's going to be from just even a pure athleticism standpoint. I mean, outside of Xavier Worthy, who's now dealing with a sprain shoulder. I mean, he's by far your just most your best pure athlete who's going to be on the field. Like they're going to want to get him the ball as much as possible. I'm very Kenneth Walker, like it's hard. It's almost hard for me to poke holes in other than injury. Like how does this go wrong? Yeah, I feel the same. That only other thing of like the how does it go wrong? It's like a little part of me is starting to worry about like could could the chiefs just like have an unexpectedly bad season on offense this year? Like it is my home's coming off in Achilles tear with probably the worst water receiver. I mean, it's not like that he's had great water receivers in the past year. But like all these injuries stacking up, I think we've kind of like losing a bit of optimism in some of these guys. Like that's maybe how it goes wrong. You just spawn Davis from the chat saying. Yeah, even even thinking about the chiefs having a bad season smoked about. Did you did you get people riled up on Twitter the other day bagging on Rashi rice? Yeah, I got. Yeah, I think I got. I mean, number one, I'll always always look for an opportunity to I think I'm a little biased against rice. So always look for an opportunity to do that. But the thing with rice that like I do think like is legitimate point is like when we're talking about look at look at the water receivers that go near Rashi rice, like George Pickens, Nico Collins, neighbors, Devon to Smith, Drake London. If these guys like magically hit the open market in NFL free agency, they are all getting like close to max deals from a bunch of teams. For she rice hits the open market in free agency. He is not getting anything close to that. Like he is a very good fantasy wide receiver. But it is very like system based like his production. And I do think there is like some inherent fragility in that. You can say, Hey, what else is that she's going to do? Like look at the death start. I get it. But then it becomes like the argument of like projectable volume for running backs that we recognize being fragile. Yeah. Yeah. So like it totally could work. And he could do the same thing he's done. But I just do think it is a little more fragile. I was around the clock here. Oh, thank you. Sorry, I was thinking about a joke as well. Kyron Jacob's T Higgins, Tederora, ETA, you want to do it? Let's do a putty in quickly, I guess. Grab your guy T Higgins. And then do you like the Kyron or Jacob's fall or get another wide receiver here? I like I like a wide receiver here. I mix it up. I like McMillan, Waddle, McLaren, maybe-- Yeah, McMillan's good. McMillan's good. All right. Let's do that. We'll try to keep Waddle's ADP slightly intact here. While I was zoning out, I was thinking that the tweet I think you just really need to do and simplify it as just say, isn't Rashi Rice just fancy Michael Pittman? And it's how it works. Now, it is funny, is he the first dead zone receiver? Which again, that's like the whole thing with the running back dead zone. It's like, yeah, sometimes the projectable volume hits. And like it in that workload you can hang your hat on, it just doesn't give you a lot of additional outs if other variables change if another target earn or steps up in the offense. I guess the question at this point is like, what other target is possibly stepping up? Which I acknowledge in the thread is like the totally valid counterpoint to this. But it's like, it's like the same argument to like, oh, what is the alternative to David Montgomery getting 80% of the RB carriers? It's like, you're right. There's not a good alternative. But like the projectable volume piece can fall away for reasons we can't expect. And again, with Rashi Rice, like reporting on this is like, they are not looking to extend him long term at the moment. He was in jail this off season. You have to think that the chiefs are coming up with some contingency plans of how do we plan an offense around a guy who is not reliable enough to not be in jail during the off season. It's just like, I don't know. So for me, I would knock down Rice a little bit. I think I view him closer to the Maconkie, Igbuka, Higgins Tier, then the Pickens Collins neighbors Tier, but realize I'm probably on a bit of an island with that take. We passed on Kyron there at the 3/4 turn. He was a slight value. There has been more and more chatter about the Korum. I think what quotes about would not be surprised to see these guys have similar production this year. The part of me that likes Korum and likes betting against Kyron loves hearing those quotes. And then there's the other realist part of me. It's like, don't we do this every year with Kyron? Is it actually going to be different? Where do you fall on that? I'm like a total Kyron centrist this year. Give me six to eight percent. I'm a Rams believer. I mean, obviously, I think everyone's a Rams believer. But their offense is just going to score so many more touchdowns in the average offense that I think fading Kyron is a little bit too fancy. But yeah, he's a guy I've always had a struggle with because of like the dead zoning nature of his profile. But like, I think in the wherever he goes, 3/4 turn, I'm like, I don't love him. I'm not fading him, though. I'm riding the middle. At least the part of his pro where it's like, the part you almost worry about with him is that and we had kind of saw it last year where he was kind of splitting goal line carries with Korum for a good stretch. But at least he always has that pass catching role which I think makes him a little less dead zoning. And then like you said, the offense is so good that the pie is long as you don't introduce a third back which I can envision them mixing in a third back much at all. Like if it's just two backs in a really good offense that's scoring, you know, I don't know, 27, 28 points a game. Like both of those guys could pay off their ADPs. - Yeah. And like a mental, like a thought experiment is like, worst case scenario, he's the Blake Korum of the offense like that Blake Korum was last year. I think Blake Korum had like three games over 20 PPR points last year as the back up running back. So it's like, is that like that? Obviously it's bad if you spend your fourth round and pick on it but is that like so horrible? Like they'll be bigger busts than a Rams running back in a 50/50 committee. - Yeah. - So what have we got here? - Yeah, we got James Cook, Kenneth Walker. We have T in Teterroya there. About the five, six turn we have by ADP Tate Rome, Brian Thomas, Price Tyson, Tyler Warren by ETR Rank. He got like Price, Daniels, Tyson. What do you want to do here? - Yep, Price, price I like the slot in is one of them. Maybe we throw in the key and think about it. I don't know, man. - Are you doing the Parker Washington thing because this guy's headed for the fifth round but if you want some exposure to him, let's do the Parker Washington thing to just to have the conversation. Let's have the conversation. 'Cause he has not been a target of mine. I have not been, like I've heard, I don't know. I think like Pat, and you too, it seems like you're pretty strongly against Washington I do think you have to acknowledge like the run he went on last year was pretty impressive and like Hunter wasn't there obviously but it was, he went on this insane run where Brian, it's not like Brian Thomas and Jacobi Myers were like injured, like they were on the field. It's gonna be like largely the same guys. He's competing against in a similar situation this year. I just think I think the hype's gonna drive him up even further so I kind of want to get some shares before I have to take him ahead of like Christian Watson or Devonta Adams or something like that. And it's, yeah, again, it's just a system, we talk about like the Rishi Rice system, like this Liam Cohen system has been printing fantasy points for slot receivers, you know, dating back to Chris Godwin's massive run in 2024 before he got her. It's just such a, such a friendly role for a wide receiver that, yeah, similar to Kyron, I'm like kind of a Washington centrist at this, at this point. - Yeah. - I think it's okay. I do think there's probably a cap on how much he can rise. Like I'd be pretty shocked if he got higher than like Jamo and Adams, but he can easily flip Rome Watson more. And I could see him settle as a mid fifth round pick. here at which case, like get some six round shares now. - Yeah, yeah, it's, yeah, man. I mean, we talked about it for the Jaguars. Jaguars, a lot of receiver room is like, it's like so weird to figure out this year. I don't know, I don't know what to do with it. I change my mind every day. - Yeah, so we still got the balance build here, three running backs, three wide receivers. I mean, on the flip side, we did take price. I feel like, early on, we were getting some of the whole Lonnie stuff, but a lot of the quotes now have been pretty bullish. Like, I really like hearing about how much they want to use them in the receiving game a bit too. I think that's really where you start to get excited about him a bit. How are you feeling about the price price? - The price price. I like the price price. I've been in on him. Yeah, I've been pretty in on him this off season, just zooming all the way out. Team that just want a Super Bowl. Very, very, very weak running back, depth chart, outside of a garrion price. I mean, come on. I know we've taken George Hollande Pete, but let's be serious about the level of competition he has in that back field. I think he could really consolidate here. His college profile is weird because he played with Jeremiah Love. That makes it very hard to interpret the data, 'cause obviously Love is an absolute freak. So I just, yeah, I love all the positive buzz on price. I mean, it's kinda crazy to get this cheaper for price for a first round running back on this good of a team with this week of team running back competition. Like I'm pretty, pretty excited about it. - Yeah, yeah, and I think, I mean, it's specifically in BBM too. I think having the conversation and maybe some of the smaller field, high stake stuff. You know, but what you're getting in BBM with that setup, I'm there in the sixth round. All right, about to pick again here. We could obviously do Lawrence with Parker Washington. You got like Pierce, Chuba, RJ Harvey, Riko, Addison, Downs, Godwin. What do you think? - I think we probably go Trevor here, not overthink the stack. Let's do that. Can you flip the ETR ranks as well? I'm curious what they, so they have Addison Pierce, Riko, LaPorta, Quorum. I think I like, I think I like Pierce here. Addison in a number very close for me, but yeah, the Pierce use has been like pretty positive. I don't think he's gonna keep falling. I think once he returns to practice even, I think we might get a slight bump from him and that seems like that's coming pretty soon. So, yeah, I think, again, Pierce, this is like managed first redraft take. Like, I'm not sure I'm doing much Alec Pierce in like an F of PC league or something this year, but like, and I think we've seen the evidence of how he can pay off in best ball pretty easily. - Yeah, yeah, I just got him my first draft this morning, and you know, I hadn't been selecting a lot of Pierce and he fell a good bit. I think I got him at like 91, 92. - Oh wow. - But we were, the chat was saying this is probably gonna be like the bottom for him. Now that we're getting like a tighter timeline. Because I think the fear early on, and I remember we took some Pierce at the beginning of best ball mania season, and it was kind of like man. Like, how bad is this injury gonna be? How long is it gonna linger? But now that they're saying, you know, I think it was one to two weeks when I pulled up the last blurb, I think he's a guy that is going to rise back up. If anything, it's just bizarre. That is price never really adjusted when there was true ambiguity. But now if anything, he could be a riser based on how much people seem to like him. - Yeah, I agree. And I guess other thing, the big question that could impact is ADP. So you could argue whether it should or not is the Keenan Allen potential signing. I think people will bump him down probably a little bit if that happens, but yeah, we're getting, I mean, we talk about all these free agents, right? Like we're getting, we're getting to August now. Like it gets to a point where, you know, Keenan Allen's gonna be a different story. He's had the familiarity with Shane Stuykin. You could probably get up to speed pretty quickly, but like some of these other guys, like I think you have to be like ticking down the digs is, I mean, obviously the IUX, but the Keenan's like a little bit day after day, just because like, man, it gets tough to like make a player a future point in the offense when you add him like this late in August. So yeah, we'll see, we'll see on the rest of these free agents. - Yeah, and it is like the flip side too, where it's like, if they do add Keenan, you're not really, I mean, you're worried about Pierce in that, it means maybe they're worried that he's not gonna be playing much or full health, but you don't worry about how it's going to impact his role or even his targets necessarily when he's on the field, because even when I click Pierce, I mean, I've never bought the, oh, they paid him, and so now he's gonna get 12 targets again. Like I, I think it's more kind of get what we got last year, and maybe a little bit more volume here, but like those early bullish things of like, sorry, like he's not gonna earn targets like he's Rashi Rice. Yeah, that's not like that's just not who he is as a player. So I'm not opposed to taking in, but I'm not, I'm not doing it because I think he's going to become this alpha wide receiver one that we're drafting in round three next year. - Yeah, a hundred percent. We're about to pick at the 9/10 turn. We do have Lawrence stacked up with Parker Washington. We have the three running backs cook, Kenneth Walker, Jerry Price, Higgins, Macmillan, Parker Washington. Pierce, Titans kind of wiped off the board here, although Kittle lurking a bit, if we wanted to get our first Titan. Otherwise, I don't see a ton here quarterback, especially with some of the leaders here. - Yeah. - There's Jacobi if you want to get the double. - Yeah. - No, he go. It just gets ripped off. Man, this is a bit of a top spot. I guess Mason is jumping out to me, just like, could use the running back for, I'll put Mason in the queue. - I don't love the, yeah, I mean, it's like do we, the other things like consider it a Kittle, I think we can put in the queue to consider, I think Casey concepts Yone makes some sense in this team. I don't think the quarterbacks I would go for, I'd probably go Kittle, I think. - Yeah. - I guess the only, and we should talk, oh, go ahead. - No, no, go, yeah, go for it. - Well, I was gonna say the one other, once we went Mason, it's like, should we consider Kyler? I was curious, how are you? Obviously, we continue to get this camp battle, JJ McCarthy. And part of me is like, I don't fucking buy it, Kyler's gonna be the weak one starter. On the other hand, are they really posturing this much, or at some point, is there a kernel of truth to, they didn't pay Kyler that much? Is he not as safe as we would like to think he's safe? - I had the same thought this weekend where like, part of me is like, he's really not that different from the Justin Fields bet last year in a lot of ways. And I'm not saying that to say that like, the Justin Fields bet was terrible. I was drafting fields in the 110 range of every win, but I was like eyes wide open with like, hey, if he is as bad as he's been, he's just gonna get benched. Like, he did get some money, but like, we've seen Justin Fields faceplant before, if he does again, he's gonna get benched. And that's what happened. He got benched and he was a bad fantasy pick. With Kyler, it's different because like, I don't think he's gonna be as much risk of being an outright disaster. Like, Fields was, I think his floor as a player is better than Fields. But if the Vikings are just like struggling a little bit, they're not training to make the playoffs. I do think they like are like, hey, we have no long-term commitment to Kyler. This Kyler experiment isn't gonna work for the long term. Why don't we just like see what we have in Jay-Jama McCarthy down the stretch? So I do think like those scenarios are real. So I have been like, I've been pumping the brakes a little bit on Kyler just 'cause like, Jordan Love, Bonix, Jared Goff, like these guys are just so much safer and like, I get their upside isn't as high, but I think they all have like pretty solid weekly upside still. We're still talking about some pretty exciting offenses or players for those guys. So yeah, I'm pumping the brakes like a little bit on Kyler, where it goes, I think. - We have a user from the Matic Fantasy football channel. I believe this is the redraft arm of the Davis Matic YouTube Empire. He sends in a $10 super chat. Things must be going well over there at Davis Matic LLC. He says, make my qualitative. Sam Sherman give a definitive statement on Terrence Ferguson, who Davis may or may not have just forced Mike Schoep to take in like the ninth round of an FMC round last night. - I'm out on the ninth round if that's good enough. Yeah, I think Ferguson is a fun, like, I'm mixing him in and later on best ball as a tight end target. The rams are so weird, right? Like, what is their plan at Wide Receiver 3? Like, could it just be Terrence Ferguson is playing like 70% of the routes as like a hybrid tight end wide receiver? I think it's possible 'cause who else in the Dupshard is doing is playing Wide Receiver? Like, I literally don't know. So I think there is an upside. case to make for him. He was a second-round pick. We've seen the Rams kind of unexpectedly spotlight players in their second year. So I'm in on T-fur. I don't think about the. Well, Davis was at like 50%. I saw something in San on Screenshot. The Screenshot was 432 Territz Ferguson shares. That's absurd. All right. Let's see here. So at the 11/12 turn, a couple interesting wide receivers, potentially. Coker could set up a Carolina double, Shaheed pairs with Jadarian price. We have got her as an ETR darling here. And then I'm looking at if there was quarterback stuff we'd need to address here or for good. Coker does go. Who interests you here? Is a Darnal still available? Good question. Yes, he is. You want to go for that double? Yeah. So again, Darnal, Shaheed, I kind of like. Yeah, let's switch to Eden just to get us a second. Yeah, we can think about it. I mean, Darnal obviously is a reach a bit ADP-wise, but I do. I mean, Daniel Jones, we still have. That's a back of his well, but I worried a little bit about getting boxed out at QB. We have price with Seattle as well. I kind of like that team bet on Seattle. And that's just something better for you. That's probably what I do. No, I mean, if there was a pick we really liked if you thought Tracy was the end of a tear, if you thought Diggs was the end of a tear, then I'd be like, we can do Bryce Young, we can do Daniel Jones and push it. But I don't mind the Darnal Shaheed thing there. And like you said, these quarterback runs can happen quickly and you can be in sponsor. Yeah, look at that. Right away. Shock, shock war right there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And also if Bryce Young or Jones makes it back, I kind of think getting three QBs is kind of nice on this team too. So I don't think we can need to rule that out if one of those guys makes it back. So we have Lawrence and Darnal at quarterback James Cook, Kenneth Walker, Jadarian Price, Jordan Mason at Running Back, T Higgins, Tenerora McMillan, Parker Washington, Alec Pierce, Rashid Shaheed at wide receiver, Kiddell at tight end. The two of us building very balanced builds where we don't get behind at any position. That's kind of our MO. I feel like this season always feels comfy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, maybe we should challenge ourselves with like a zero RB or something next week to mix it up. But yeah, that is like I do occasionally get pushed into like weird builds. I very am like a let the draft kind of dictate my early round strategy and go from there type of draft here. But when there's a tie break, I feel like just leaning towards balanced is like yeah, because then it gives you the optionality later like to take a huge value. You know what I mean? So I always do kind of default towards towards more balanced. No, that's I mean it was it's funny because it's juxtaposed to last week. I don't know if you saw so in my solo draft, I did a McBride Bowers team and then that you know, that forces you into some tough spots. And then Pat and I did like the six running backs early Tony Pollard running back six. And again, my issue with it is the word you just said the optionality is like you're essentially removing a position from your draft board. Yeah. West of the draft and it just makes it a little harder to pull things pull things off. But yes, that was a very polarizing draft that you missed last week. Yeah. I mean the sim stuff is so interesting to me because like I don't doubt that like with their inputs, if they're like that confident that Tony Pollard is like a better pick than whatever the water receiver is like with their inputs, like the sims are going to spit out like take Tony Pollard. But like if you this is I don't know, I'm not going to sell like whatever shape. I know Shady and Pat they've thought about all this stuff in detail. I know. But like if you introduce more like uncertainty into like the range of outcomes and the sims, right? Then like I think you wouldn't be as confident taking like a sixth running back over your first water receiver really. I can't fully wrap my mind around that yet. So I need I need like a math lesson from the leg up guys because yeah. And I think it's probably, you know, compounded with a complete lack of confidence in the late round running backs of just yeah. Man, the range of outcomes on these like sure. Will there be a couple of hits? Absolutely. There is every year. But projecting those especially even still now where we are on the cusp of a lot more information. I'm guessing it's just saying the availability of this position late is dire. And we want you to get as many of these before then. But no, I'm with you. I think it's fun talking about it. Like it's fun to treat now. What are the sims picking up on? We are about to pick here at the 1314 turn. Really hoping strange will fall to us for the double stack to rankings. Yeah. And stacked. But brace young is also here if we do want to get that third quarter back. Bigs be go. So we're good there. What would you like to do? Yes, strange for sure. And then I think I would lean young. But maybe we can we can look at the alternatives. Yeah, I'll use our time here by ADP. I have it sorted. So it would be like Henry Boston, Johan Johnson, Elgear Coleman, ETR ranks have Henry, Johan Johnson, Sadeek. It is probably last call for quarterback because it's like yeah, the Rogers, Mendoza. I don't and I think we can probably push tight in three at this point. Yeah, I feel pretty good about young being the best pick here. Yeah, I like it. I got into I took I had a young, did I have a young on my first team? I think I did because I took Xavier Legett. And then I was arguing with the chat whether Legett was on the the menu or not. Have you is there any adjustments you're making with with Brazil being out for the year? Yeah, I think the Legett is on the menu. I would think don't sound so confident. I mean, it's like you ask a you know, waiter about a special like do you have that? Are there any of those like rib eyes left? And she's like, I think it's I think we still have something on the menu. You mean strip eyes? Yeah, yeah, strip eyes are gone. All we got is a little Legett in the back from two nights. Yeah, that's a little Legett. Yeah, it's the last last Legett we had. It's got to check the expiration date. Yeah, I think draft Kings. He's probably more like draft Kings eligible for me than underdog. But I mean, I get to the 18th round sometimes and I'm like, who the the fuck am I going to take a wide receiver? So he's going to run he's going to run routes. He was a first-round pick. That's about all you can say positively about him, I think. Which is generally about all we can say positively about a lot of round 18 guys or you say a third round rookie on the Baltimore Ravens who could also be the wide receiver six or he could be the wide receiver two and no one knows. But yes, I'm not I don't want Legett to be part of my brand just because I said he's on the menu, but we know how these things work. So I guess I'm just the fucking Legett guy now Sam. Yeah. It's better than being the Jonathan Mingo guy. Yeah, I've been I was both in the rookie years. So, you know, that didn't work out so well for me. The broken Carolina drafting clock has to be a little bit of movie right at some point. It's it's just math. Exactly. Yeah. And yeah, I mean, who else do they have? Jimmy Horn. I've heard someone mention him as a guy, but I don't know how it's it's going to be the guy, I think. This is the other talking point from earlier I upset the Jay Lynn Naylor, and I'm actually curious where you fall on this because as a member of contract Twitter, I feel like you have to love the Jay Lynn Naylor signing on the other hand, I could see you not being very excited about the Raiders offense. So where are you in the great Jay Lynn Naylor wars that started about two hours ago? Yeah, I'm not not really into Naylor. I, uh, yeah, it's just, I mean, you can take Jay Lynn, like I can't I can't stop you from clicking Jay Lynn Naylor. You cannot stop these people. I learned. Yeah. That's not, I don't know, man. I think I think like for me if I was taking water seaver, I obviously like, struggling and like there's higher upside guys than Naylor. I think there's like guys with similar floors around there, but you know, we'll, we'll see, maybe, maybe I'm wrong. But I have to draw the, Jay Lynn Naylor one pick ahead of Omar Cooper. That's just like not a reality of fantasy football that I want to live in. It's like the calm, like you said, it's a combo of like a guy who's never really done much in his NFL career and landed on the raid. Like if this throw them on the chiefs or something and whatever, maybe I'd be more interested. Then he'd be Rossi Rice. Yeah. Then he'd be in the Rossi Rice for whole exactly. Yeah. Yeah, you had some high touchdown rates in Minnesota. I think that's about all, all you can really say possibly about his time in Minnesota. Yeah. This is, we've gotten to the point where people are saying, can we talk about someone fun in not Jay Lynn Naylor? We just talked about Zaylor LeGet in Jay Lynn Naylor. What more could you guys want for us? Let's recap this team before we pick. Next, we do have the three quarterbacks, Lawrence, Darnold, Bryce Young, all stacked up. We got those four running backs, James Cook, Kenneth Walker, Jadarian Price, Jordan Mason, got the five wide receiver, Higgins, Teta Roya Parker, Washington, Alec Pierce, Rashid Jihad, the two tight ends here in George Kittle in Breton's Strange. We are three picks away here. I know ETR ranks don't love him, but Barner on a darn old team certainly makes sense. I'm looking at the running backs here. Jaden Blues ADP has been a rocket ship and kind of maybe a last call here or decent picks. What else are you seeing? Yeah, I was going to bring up Jaden Blue, Barner, T-Ferg, Davis's guy. Oh, T-Ferg's night. Sorry, Davis. I'm going to pull it. Who, let's talk through it. Who do you want first? Barner, I let. Yeah, I would go blue first and then we can see if. I mean, I don't feel like we're. This is our third Seattle skill player with Darnal and they were mostly pretty cheap. I think it's not really overstecking. I think we can find some water severs later. I think I'd go bar with the stack. Yeah. I know I was trying to see. I was like, you know, I do like wicks, but other than wicks, I'm like all of these guys feel similar to me. And now we basically. We have the 355-3. Everyone knows where Sam and Pete team has headed. It's headed toward a 357-3. We're going to find two wide receivers to close this out. Yep. And speaking of. I mean, this is at a risk of him getting sniped, but talking about like somewhere in the more exciting bucket over the late round pick. I think like Cyrus. Yeah, Rashad Bateman. No. I think Cyrus Allen is like pretty interesting. I'm still working through how I feel about taking him. I did take him on one team in the 18th round. After the news that it was just a shin bruise, he should be back in a couple days. He. I mean, we see this so often with the Chiefs skill players in preseason that like I feel like Lucy or, you know, whatever the analogy is of Lucy with the football. Yeah, Lucy with the football. But like he was getting legit, good reports, even like, shifter, quote, tweeting, stuff saying like, the impact Cyrus Allen was made like, I don't know. It doesn't feel like fully just like, you know, random beat reporter on some blog talking about it. Like it was getting some kind of like national buzz, what he was doing. And as we talked about, it's a wide open wide receiver room. Rashid Rice looks banged up. Ziver worthy. It seems like he's going to be fine with the shoulder, but he's banged up. Other options are Taikwan Thornton and Nico Ramizio, right? Like there is room here for someone to kind of like come out of nowhere. So I think Allen is like kind of an interesting last round pick right now, but what do you think about him? Yeah, I talked to with Levitan a bit where he was like, I think he had the stat and I can see if I can pull it up because I want to say Cody main tweeted it, but that the Chiefs play their rookies and like the preseason and early stuff more than basically any team. Yeah. Which makes sense, right? Like shouldn't every team do that? Like see what the fuck you have in your new guys? You know what your old guys do. So I've always been a little skeptical. And yet, you know, this Xavier worthy shoulder screen, right? Like to me, that's where I get interested in Cyrus. Like if this stuff continues to nag and it's like Xavier, were these not going to be part of it? Like then all of a sudden the runway for him to immediately be on the field in three wide receiver sets is pretty interesting here. I was trying to see if I can find this this tweet here, but Cody tweets way too much for me to Hey, yeah, let's see here. Was this it? Yeah, I don't know. Oh, yeah, I've been keeping track of preseason playing time since 2016. If you're curious, which fantasy relevant players might be on the field this August, here's a list of regular season starter playing time for active NFL coaches. And you can see here Andy Reed at the at the top here for the Chiefs 12.6% week one and then goes up. So the average here of playing the fantasy relevant players might be on the field this August. Okay. So yeah, I don't know exactly how that ties into the Cyrus Allen conversation, but yeah, yeah. But yeah, no, I think he to me, he is interesting from just a Xavier worthy health perspective at the very least. Yeah. Other guy like go ahead, go ahead. No, I just want to say let the record show, the solver is suggesting Xavier Ligette on this team for us. I'm not going to force Sam to take Xavier Ligette, but yeah, let's figure out which two wide receivers we want to land this plane with here. I kind of like guys I like booty. I think I like Pat Brian. I like. Oh Brian. Okay, I think cop we can throw in the queue. Ligette, I think we can throw on the queue. Do you want to get booty for? Yeah, get booty first. Go with that. Yeah, yeah. I think I've done Cooper cop enough to be honest. I'd like to find something else. The question. Yeah, or are you in on the Keenan stuff around around 18 Keenan, he can be another. Yeah, I haven't done I haven't done him once. Let's do. Yeah, let's do Keenan, sure. Yeah, I was looking at this team and I was just thinking, you know, it is probably a team that could use a Cooper cop. Higgins, Teta Roy, Parker Washington, Pierce, Shaheed, booty, Allen, it probably does need another kind of floor pick there because it is a little bit thin now that I look at it. So a guy like Keenan, whoever he signs, it also, it's kind of an interesting phantom stack there with Pierce anyways. If that could cover up some production, if he does go to the Colts and gives us some stuff early. So yeah, I don't know. I think Ligette, Keenan, those were the picks. Yeah. Yeah, and the booty thing I think is interesting, because I've been I'm a Patriots fan, so I've been following their camp closely. If you look at the Chad graph who covers them for the athletic, he's been like adamant that booty has been the best wide receiver camp. So that's one thing that he clearly has taken this off season to be like motivated and showed up ready to play. He wasn't, you know, sulking about potential trade requests. He's been ready to play. And then two, there's been quotes from him along the lines of a paraphrasing, but he said things like, yeah, I don't know if I'm going to be here in a couple weeks or someone else or somewhere else. So I think there are like still trade talks in the background with him, because if you think about a three wide receiver set, like booty, AJ Brown and dobs, doesn't make a lot of sense. Like you probably want a slot guy in there like pop Douglas and either yeah, none of those three guys really, really fit that. So there's some like asymmetric outcomes here with booty where he gets traded to a place where much more excited about could that be San Francisco? Could that be Kansas City? Could that be, I don't know Miami installs case on booty as their water see everyone, whatever, right? Like, I don't know what the best outcome is for him, but yeah, I think I think a trade could be on the table for how much to be interesting. Yeah, yeah, because then you it is hard to know what is is better even just being like because he did show a good rapport with Drake May, and I do think he's a good downfield threat. And you're almost like, man, maybe they are a little creative. Maybe they kick AJ Brown or dobs into the slot more and let booty play outside. And now you have a guy who's hitting for big plays in a good offense. Or do you say, give me the mystery box, the grass is greener on the other side. Maybe a few more targets. Maybe a more determined role. I guess at this point, some of the spots that do really need wide receiver help are pretty scary. Like it's like, oh, he goes to Miami. He goes to the Raiders and takes Jalen. Yeah, lunch. So yeah, I'm also wondering, like, do you just want him to stay on the Patriots or do you actually want a trade at this point? Yeah, yeah. I guess my assumption is like, if he gets traded, it's like, there's also the like, I don't know, we still have a month before the season. Like could there reach some other injury that opens up a exciting trade spot? I don't know. Either way, though, I think it's just like, it's exciting that he's like pretty clearly at top three pass catcher at Patriots camp. And you know, he wasn't anything special last year. He was, you know, 1.5 yards per outrun, pretty low target rate. But as you mentioned, it was like big plays down the field, like a 17, 17.1 yards per reception, pretty, pretty deep eight out as well. So that is like sort of a bestball friendly profile if he can repeat something close like that in year two. Yep. All right. Here's, here's the squad in the books. 3573, T law, Darnell Bryce Young at quarterback, Cook Kenneth Walker, Jadarian Price, Jordan Mason, Jayden Blue, Higgins, Teteroi McMillan, Parker Washington, Alec Pierce, Rashid Shaheed, and then we finished with Booty and Keenan Allen. Then we got the three tight ends there, Kittle, Strange, and Barner. All kinds of stacks here. I'd say other than kind of like the back end of the wide receiver room, maybe being a shaky, pretty solid squad. What do you think? Yeah, yeah, I agree. I mean, I think we're pretty relying on our guy, Parker Washington here, to have a huge season for sure. But yeah, I think it's, I think it's a fun team. I like, I think we have concentration on like good, offenses for the most part, I think Carolina is the exception with that stack, but pretty heavy Seattle and Jacksonville. I'm excited about their potential this year. We got the, you know, bills and chiefs pieces kind of done the line. Pretty exciting high-scoring offense potential on this roster. So I like that. That's something I watch out for. Like I think sometimes, like, I do really like the values on like the jets or the browns. And then you like stack too many of those teams together and you're like, there's just no fucking way this team could could ever work when I have four jets players and three browns players or something. So I think we did a good job balancing that that here. For sure. Yeah, it's like kind of, yeah, you you pick the one offense, you know, are you sprinkling in browns? Are you sprinkling in sprinkling in jets? Carolina, but you don't want to go too overboard there. And then you look at our running back room, it's like, cook in the bills, walker in the chiefs, price in the Seahawks, basin in the Vikings, and blue in the Cowboys. I mean, the potential for touchdowns and just high scoring offenses there is pretty good. Yep, for sure. Yeah, it looks like we didn't, we were, I guess reaching a little more than I thought. I guess it was all kind of mostly the reaches at quarterbacks, which like when you're on the turn, I mean, what else are you gonna, you're gonna do there. So I think we, I guess we didn't really have any big value. I don't remember having any big values like presented to us at any point through the draft. It was kind of a by the books room, I feel like. For sure. I mean, the one, the two nice value things we got were at tight end are stacked up. Yeah, tight ends, they're strange, slipped when we needed a tight end. And then Barner also slipped there. So that feels good. Yeah, everything pretty minor. But yeah, when you add it up and it's like, oh, man, are we just hemorrhaging ADP value left, right? But then to like, you know, the Jane blue one, I'm seeing like a bit of a tear break there when like we go from Jane and blue to what I consider a lot of stone zero types. Whereas like, I feel pretty good that blue isn't going to be a zero. Like, I think he's going to have a pass catching floor. And then you can dream on some contingent. You can dream on some explosive plays. But for me, blue is almost like last call, at least for now on some of these late round running backs. I'm with you. It's kind of like blue and Lloyd for me. If I don't have one of them towards the end, I'm like, I feel like I'm making some pretty big guesses. Now I get with those guys even like, it's not like I have the highest confidence in the world that those guys are going to be the running back to you. But I think we're building confidence every day now with those guys. Like very, very good reporting on how blue after I think being seen is kind of like a head case in his rookie year has like come back with a change attitude. And they're excited about him. Like, that's you love to hear that. You know, you kind of worry about Jane blue that he does the germane Burton pivot and gets released from the team after after year two. And he's clearly trying another direction there. So that's that's exciting. Yeah, I like this team here. It fun for me. Like, two of my bigger fades at the wide receiver position. Most of this offseason, Parker Washington, Alec Pierce, at least in like the top 90 picks there. We get them on the same team here. I think you had the only interesting decision going back would have been, was there a wide receiver? Like, do you take digs instead of darn old? And then you get a little stronger at wide receiver. Five. And then you get a Jones or somebody else later. That was really the only spot I was kind of thinking through. Yeah. Because I think Jones got ripped off, but we could have gone like, you're right. T-Law, Bryce Young and Mendoza or something like that or Rogers, right? No, I think your instinct was right. Being on the turn there and just knowing, yeah, Jones does go 140. I mean, him coming back to 156. It could have happened, but probably a little thinner there. That was my thought. I was like, I think there's good chances. One of Jones or young make it back, but like both felt kind of thin. So I felt like taking, taking darn old there. Yeah. But I do, yeah, I don't know what else we could have, I mean, we maybe could have done instead of barner done like a wide receiver will feel a little bit better about. But at that point, it was like, it was pretty wiped out anyways. So yeah, I think we played it pretty well. Yeah. And then the other thing, it's like, but even here, I was going to say, okay, you always feel decent when you go overplunt tightened, you could grab a dobs, a wand, a concepcion instead of kittle. And then, but even then, if you're flipping like your last round booty or whatever, it's like, you're down to Eric all your guy, Eric, all there. Eric all. So you can miss, you can miss these windows, almost no matter what you do. It's, it can be tricky there. Oh, I didn't see Eric all actually got, got this one. Yeah, let's go. Yeah, there's been, there's been a little, uh, yeah, a little buzz on him. Yeah, I was reading the old ETR, ETR subs. I think one of the most underrated things to check out is like the rankings change log. I mean, you have to be a complete, you know, virgin like me to be interested in that. But I do, I do keep an eye on that. And they ticked up Eric all recently in the rankings change log. Which I think makes, makes sense. Uh, he's, he got hit by a truck and it made him more excited about football, apparently. So I don't, I don't, I heard them talking about it. I haven't, is it under, do they have a separate age for it? If you just keep scrolling down, it's kind of buried a little bit. I think even the ranking under player now, there it is, rankings change log. Yeah. And they have all their notes like, I think I don't know if they update this daily, but it's close to daily. It seems like and yeah, this is a couple notes. Yeah, yeah, it's good stuff. Yeah. So you got, here you go. Bumped eyes here. Let's find that. Let's find the air call for us. Here we go. Bumped air calls target share slightly off of Mike, Mississippi and Tanner Hudson. These are the kind of updates. That's what I love. Yeah. Let's go. Yeah. You know, there's, there's always lots of jokes about virginity in the fantasy football space. Reading this, this page has to be up there as the dictionary definition. That's up there. I mean, I would like, I would like ETR to report back on daily like page views on this article. I figure 50% of them are probably me, but I'm sure there's some other other people that are looking at this. Imagine trying to explain this sentence on a first. Bumped Jalen Wattles target share off, a listed wide receiver to get him further up in the ranks. I also love it too, because like sometimes they're like, there's rationale for like why they do it that's laid out. And sometimes they're just like, yeah, we're just just getting this guy higher in the ranks, which it's like, it is funny because I mean, I listen to, you know, them talk about it. And they were, they were even mentioning with some of those spots, like the commanders, like the Colts, where it's almost like a trickle thing, like the closer we get to the season, keep sliding a little bit more of the unlisted to the main guys. But I do like how they do this, right? Where it's like, okay, the market is moving on Jalen Wattle. We could just stay tethered to our rank to ADP or whatever. But if we do think where could we be off? Why are we behind market? Oh, we still have unlisted wide receiver here. I haven't heard the Broncos really. I mean, they have one of the deeper wide receiver rooms. I would say in the lead right now with Franklin and Mims as luxuries, it would make sense to pull unlisted wide receiver off. I feel like. Yeah, Pete, I unfortunately have a huge sort of a hand on shoulder moment for you, um, unlisted wide receiver for the Broncos goes by Tessam Hill. Oh, okay. I thought you were just a little short and hungry, but I got Joker. Yeah. Yeah. Tessam Hill, you got to project him for his, his 8% target share, 4% carry share, 3% pass attempt share. You got to, you got to get that in there. I was terrified when you did the head on shoulder that like right now they had just signed Keenan Allen or something. Not that unlisted wide receiver. Sweet dude. I assume you got that's fair going on this week, anything else? No, just that's fair. I'm going to be, I guess like big picture. I'm going to be, I think ramping up some more content like late August, early September, just like, I've got a backlog of like guest, guest streams and stuff that I'm trying to schedule then because I think a little more free time and it's the most exciting time to do it. So I'll have more, more news on that later. But yeah, I'm not just that's fair this Thursday. All right, man, beautiful, fun drafting as always. We will catch you around here for next week's best ball breakfast and we'll see you soon. All right, sounds good. All right, peace Sam. Before we get Ron Stewart up here today, I want to do another coffee giveaway. Let's do a different, let's do a different hashtag here. Should we do, should we do Leguet or Naylor? You know what? I'm on team, team Leguet. So we're going to do Leguet here. We're going to make you guys spell it L-E-G-E-T-T-E hashtag Leguet to be entered for a free bag of our new coffee sponsors coffee in my guy Ron's here. 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at 2 p.m. Eastern the so you think you can tout finale is premiering Ron was a judge earlier this season Ron are you fired up for the finale today oh I'm locked in I'll be I'll be heading right over good good good you got you got any predictions you do you have a horse in this race yeah I of course like cups I like PPR Tyler I don't mind squares I my prediction I think squares wins but I don't really know enough about them so I'm I'm curious to see what happens wise your prediction squares wins I think in the the lens of what you're looking for I think he provides the best I guess like Avenue do something new I think that you're very trying to branch out do some fun stuff I think that he could okay you know service you in that way I suppose well I will say this obviously no spoilers but the kind of conversation right there that's essentially what the whole kind of first half of the finale is these guys getting their pitches to me thinking through how they fit in how this would all work and but don't worry there's some surprises obviously the announcement of the winner very fun finale excited for you guys all to see it that will be debuting live premier on the so you think you can tout channel 2 p.m. Eastern but before we can do that Ron and I have to draft my 106th Best Balmania draft what number are you at right now in your bbm journey Ron I am at I have 61 to go so 89 something like that yeah we do have the 103 the the chalk goes off the board are you a Chase Puka JSN you get funky what do you do here I'm Chase here yeah I tapped into your stream for a brief second one of the nights and I think I tapped in right when you said I don't really have any strong opinions on anyone in round one and I said that's my guy right there I don't think Ron Stewart as a redraft streamer would have been allowed to say that two or three years ago being like you don't have to but now you're a Best Balbrow and you're just 8.3% of everybody dude my my exposures this year are sexless man I my chat made me pull him up yesterday I have across 235 drafts I have three players over 20 percent shame shame Ron you got to stand for something you got to stand for all these jets they're all values wrong that's the guys I keep draft my most drafted players Garrett Wilson and my second most drafted player is Breeze well let me let me ask you because it is a thing we've talked about a lot this year where I think most people most reasonable people agree there are really strong values on like I think Breeze Garrett Wilson Cooper Sedic I like all of them I think we can do the same thing for the Browns Concepcion Fanon Boston the question is is when is the tipping point especially in a game where we do like the idea of correlating if you're right on Garrett Wilson if you're right on Omar Cooper well then you probably want Geno Smith too so how have you been handling that dynamic even setting aside your laundry bro fandom of how many of a bad team is too much on your roster obviously you don't want like a full onslaught but I don't know I hate to chalk things up to us not knowing much but even the implied Vegas lines which I love to look at last year they had Seattle super low I feel like there's a team or two every year that kind of comes out of nowhere even not even comes out of nowhere but can they go from the 30-second implied team total to 18th in scoring in a given year and I feel like you can get a good amount of hits from that scenario and then even on the flip side we saw like the bears and the jaguars were kind of like the stories of last season from an NFL standpoint and from fantasy they had some hits but not guys that you couldn't win without if that makes sense right like when you think of like ETN was fine Brian Thomas junior for as much as the jaguars were awesome was like one of the worst picks on the board so the team stuff matters don't get me wrong but I don't know I'd say like if I was to give you a a firm answer I would say like if I'm gonna go genome I want like two teammates max is what I would say or really really two teammates max regardless if I have genome now that I think through it just because the touchdowns be pretty concentrated or you know scarce in general I guess I think for me it's like it's less about I'm still okay to have a bunch of jets it's almost though like I wanted to isolate the one bad team it's like let me just get the jets thing right don't also have two browns and two Titans and a Panther on it because then that needle is very tight but if it's just I need this one team to hit I think I'm on board with that we're on the clock Niko Pickens rushy rice Jeremiah love neighbors is soaring up the boards here what do you do I'm Pickens here all right let's do George Pickens to pair which of March Ace have you been doing any zero or B builds from from spots like this yeah I keep saying that like this side of the board like keeps daring me to do it where you start with Chase and then the running backs get depleted and then I like Jeremiah love a lot but not enough to take him to 10 there so I take pickens and just kind of figure it out later and you're seeing two is a lot of like I know Liam just tweeted a picture from doing zero or B like I don't know we've been around here for a while I know that everyone's like pronounced at dead but we're gonna get one of these years where there's some chaos but here I'll take Jeremiah love yeah yeah it's the Jeremiah love click here is interesting in that I think it's the right pick I think it's the best pick it's a click I want to continue to make and yet the market is getting so fucking spooked by all of this talk and the Algiers are lead back the classic bullshit that we're going to get with any kind of veteran who gets a rookie added to the mix and so my only concern is like are we gonna get like mid to late third round love and we and it's just like be patient right now and let him get cheaper I don't mind if this was like a team where we took beach on at like 102 I'd be open the kind of passing but like I'm curious like what's the alternative you know like you can go we miss out on McBride there yeah I'm not crazy about 27 overall Kyron though maybe you could talk me into that and then like I'm not going to so then like we're looking at three straight wide receivers which I don't know there was once upon a time where maybe we would be more open to that but I don't know that's why I get so tricky again if it was beach on then I'd be less time to go love there if McBride was there for some structural stuff but I feel like our hands were kind of tied to take a running back there just based on what came back no I think it was cool if he was there neighbors for sure because then yeah you get the kind of very similar tier with Devonta I guess it would be breeze are you are you in on on breeze if loves off the board there I'm not on breeze but yeah like after love I'm like I'm not dying to pull them up and I think that he has similar drawbacks to love I guess you're right that the market's kind of falling out of favor with love but we're even seeing breeze fall in this draft here where I don't know what we'll see what happens with the jets but we had the three-headed monster quote from Glenn I wouldn't put it past them to get on a podium and say something stupid again here in the next couple of weeks so but yeah I'm drafting a lot of breeze as well dude like yeah the more that I do this the more boomer I get where I take the projections from Mike Clay, Dwayne McFarlane and Rich Rebar average them together and just get like a rough projection of like what the hell is going on here. Embraceous projects really strongly in terms from a reception standpoint in terms of even in half PPR even not having the touchdown upside of Kair and Devonta and those guys he's still right in that range which to me tells me that if you can find the efficiency with the offensive line where that's really that's all I'm almost a thesis here is that the offensive line has been brutal since like the Nick Mangold days This offensive line has two top 10 picks at tackle. Membu a guy that I think should have been on the offense of rookie of the year ballot last year. And then Joe Tim and who's like this unsung interior offensive lineman who's awesome. He's like this Wisconsin guard. He's got a Molet six six. He just got a huge extension. And if these guys take a step forward, all of a sudden the offensive line is fine. I think Gina Smith is somebody that say whatever you want about him is going to throw the ball. Check down to me that we didn't have last year with Fields and Brady Cook and then Tyra. There was just never an answer there. I will say it's all the critics out there. I keep getting that of like your jets homer last year. I was out on all the jets just because it was a pretty clear dumpster fire. But what I also say to that is like through five weeks, I was sweating the Garrett Wilson faith. Like that one looked really wrong. And then we get lucked out by him getting her. And then even we came back, he, I think Brady could probably kill them down the stretch, but I don't know. There's some talented players. This is the best on paper jets offense since like 2015. I'd say for sure. And speaking of the devil, dude, your guy Garrett Wilson slides five picks past ADP. I mean, when in Rome, we got to do it, right? Yeah, it has to be Garrett Wilson. Yeah, I was checking to make sure we didn't take breeze. Yeah. Yeah, that one's a little tougher. The breeze, the breeze and Garrett on the same one just. Yeah. Love chase, pickens Wilson. The one thing I was going to say to about zero are being, we didn't really need to do it here because Wilson fell. But this is starting to be a decent pocket at the 45 turn. You know, Montgomery Swift. You can pull up Tutton as a last ditch resort. You got the Hendo, Judkins, Bucky stuff. So I haven't minded like having three wide receivers there, just knowing like, man, a Montgomery Tutton, like four or five, like I'm on board with that. Do you want to grab another wide receiver at Jamo or do you want to get a Swift Hendo, somebody like that? Let's, let's take Swift and you take our medicine here. Why not? Eat your vegetables, take your medicine. Take your vegetables, eat your medicine. Yeah, something among those lines. I don't know. The other thing is a fine pick. He is somebody that, and we talked about it with the Jaguars. Sometimes these offenses don't turn anybody out. But give me the lead back on the Ben Johnson offense. He feels like he's priced fine, I would say. Well, it's time to go Henderson there. But yeah, yeah, where, because he's another one where he is getting cheaper, there's been a decent amount of kind of Ramondrae bull posting and basically saying, hey, this is going to be the same thing. That we had last year, it sounds like you might still be more fully in on the Henderson thesis. Yeah, it's something, someone gets me going every day in my stream of, I don't know, just something that we've harped on for a while of, you can't just copy and paste last year's results. Your two running backs have the biggest jump in terms of production over running back's career. We've seen plenty of guys be like, you know, you can go back to Bijan as like your one was kind of a dud and then your two was awesome. Of course, not the same level of prospect, but there's just a chance that like week one's going to be frustrated. I mean, it's funny. This is best also we don't have to deal with it. But, you know, we're talking like FFPC and stuff. It's going to be frustrating, but like we've done this long enough, especially, you know, maybe that also I like it archetype wise that we didn't take Henderson there. Just because we took love, like it's kind of going to be an equally frustrating experience of week one seeing an out year, goal line carry, you're seeing a Ramondrae goal line carry, but the hope is, and kind of what we saw happen with Henderson down the stretch, and then of course, it gets like a weird concussion and then Ramondrae comes back and it wasn't as much of a smash as we would have hoped for, but there was a stretch there where Henderson was crushing in your lineup without Ramondrae. Of course, it took an injury, but we've seen in the past, I always think back to like the second half of JT's rookie year, the second half of Nick Chubbs' rookie year of guys that just kind of the throw in the guy in front of him and become monster. JT wasn't as clear cut as that, but you go what I'm saying. For sure. Yeah, and I think that's probably the thing that's most exciting about Hendo. Maybe even as you compare him to RJ Harvey, not, I mean, Hendo was a much better prospect. But again, two guys we're excited about. We saw what Bell Cow Henderson looks like. And it wasn't like, oh, we're only going to trust you with 10 to 12 carries. We're going to bring in another bruiser back off the practice squad is like, no, you can do this. Like, we'll trust you at the goal line. We'll let you do everything. So at least just knowing that that Bell Cow ceiling is there is pretty exciting. Even if the projection math makes it a little bit of a leap of faith in the early fifth. Yeah, and the projection math, like even the projection guys are kind of like cutting it down the middle where he kind of projects similar to like Bucky and the guys in that range. He can just get better. Like, what if he becomes a better pass blocker in your two? What if he becomes a more steady runner, like all those things? Do you do the you stack up a burrow with Chase here? Is that your move? Probably. I don't really see anything else that's that interesting on the board. Yeah, yeah, it always feels a little weird taking like burrow ahead of a falling Daniels. And yet, when you have Chase, it makes sense. The only other move would be like, if you did like a Ramondray or someone here, do you take Ramondray first and then just let the quarterback decision come back to you? Let's do burrow and see if they're actually going to know, let's do Ramondray. I like that idea. Yeah, I was just going to see here. The Higgins Draftor is well behind us. So, you know, yes, sometimes people do make a Joe burrow, but with those other guys, I think it's probably the right gamble to take their assuming that do you have a tear break from like Ramondray to the Pollard in Chuba types? Or is he just part of that group for you? A little bit. Just because Pollard is an interesting bet that just on volume with the offense is so terrible. And then like all those guys like Chuba Hubbard and a head, I'm all set on those guys like in that range, I'm just going wide receiver. I like it. I like how we played this. This is kind of like one of the cases for, you know, not multi-tably. You could do one draft. You could see what people have behind you. And then burrow comes back to us. We get him seven picks past ADP stacked up and we squeeze in Ramondray there. Now, how do you like, because I feel this is the age-old question in these. Like we have now drafted a Ramondray in our Flexbot. And half PPR, that feels cozy. And I also like, you know, we didn't take our running back through two rounds. So I don't mind like taking the running back side of that before the wide receiver and like building out depth there. - For sure. And like the thing for me is, you know, we see QJ, we see Metcalf coming off the board. Like this tier here, Reed, Addison, Pierce, Sutton, Godwin, worthy downs, you know. For me, these guys are all part of that same tier. And so it always feels bad taking the first wide receiver from that run, whereas like I do like Ramondray more than Paulard and Chuba and like grabbing him here. So yeah, this build I think is pretty ideal from the front half of the board, burrowed a chase, love, swift, Ramondray. And again, like pairing love with a guy who, you know, could have a slower start, you know, if we're being realistic here with what the team saying, then Swift and Ramondray get you some of those early season points to get a love team to the playoffs. And then with Chase Pickens and Garrett Wilson, you have three high-end target earners there. So yeah, I think this one's breaking well. - Now let's say too, something that's funny after me getting on my soapbox about a Trevion and just, I guess like the young running back archetype in general, is I have 11.5% Ramondray and 10.6% Henderson. So I'm honestly drafting both if I'm being honest, but especially the best fall I'm drafting both. But I think it's a good back to the target. - For sure. And it's maybe a little, you know, as far as two teammates, it's a little pricey. I guess it's kind of, you know, analogous to, you know, when you're doing the Gibbs and Montgomery thing, obviously there's way more confidence in Gibbs there, but there is path. I mean, how many times in fantasy, I was kind of just saying this with saying them about the Ram's backfield where it's like, if that offense cooks, whichever one thinks they do, and you don't introduce a third back who's siphoning like five or six carries away, which doesn't sound like a lot, but it is if you're pulling that from two other, you know, fringe bets. I mean, both these guys can pay off if it's just those two in this offense is, you know what, I guess a top six, top seven offense. So yeah, I think being in on both of them makes sense, and you can get some pretty cheap Henderson right now, depending on the room. - Yeah. And the offense could even soar, man, like we could, this could be a, like top three situation, where we start talking about AJ Brown, where Drake may have was putting up MVP numbers, like Throwin's the case on booty and like the funky bunch. So, and you know, some game scripts, can the defense regress a little bit? I think it could be fun. So, we're about to pick here at eight, 10. We'll see if any bit of this wide receiver tier holds on. The tight ends have gotten a little wiped here with Laporta coming off the board. Dack is gone as well. We're not really hard press for a quarterback here, but you're kind of looking at like an Addison, Wilson, worthy Pittman. Addison is the slight faller here. What do you think? - I'm open to Addison. Yeah, let's take Addison. I'm not the biggest Addison fan, so it doesn't, it doesn't. - It'd be him or Michael Wilson and really Michael Wilson only cause of the Cardinals. I don't have a trouble. - That's true. In Wilson's sliding a good bit. Yeah, let's grab Addison here. Yeah, I've been a little like just compounding all of the stuff with, you know, the risk with Kyler, you know, you get the deep all stuff, but then they say like, hasn't Addison been bunking with Kyler? Are we getting a roommate narrative on those two right now? - I have a really hard time with that. Like we just took him into his past ADP, like I'd take him here. - Yeah. - I don't know. When you're playing second fiddle to Jefferson and Kyler's the QB, I think I would go fan in or pitch. Yeah, let's go fan in. So I'm just gonna go, yeah, let's go fan in. - I like fan in here. I was just, I just put Brock in the queue. We won't do it. But just thinking I was real like, it's such a sick backstack now when you could do Kiddell, Debo, Stribbling, all with, with Cheap Brock, but we're gonna have a decent amount of quarterback out here. And I do think Fanon is a, is about. value. And the question is though, we just said, not too many jets, not too many browns, not too many cardinals, maybe we do pits. Then it's like, oh, the Falcons, I don't know. The Falcons aren't quite in that tier, but they're also not like a sexy offense anyways. Like they have some third stringer throwing in practice right now that I shouldn't know the name of them, but for who? The Falcons, they have like their QB3 is like the quarterback in practice right now. Oh, yeah, because both yet, I was saying I don't know his name. Like, yeah, I don't either. The chat will tell us here shortly. I'm sure. Um, let's see here, Minnesota, Mike, where would be the best landing spot if the Cardinals trade James Connor? He's been on my menu in round 18. I've always heard the lions, like just jump a checo. It's like the RB 2. Do you have another other spot there? That's the only one that sticks out. Um, I need like a, I need like a list of the, the, the use of the NFL here. What, what about like no one, does anyone ever buy the DJ Giddens thing? What if he went to the Colts behind JT? I can see that. I can see that. I think that they'd be in, they, I think that they would want more of a, like maybe they signed a mirror of duel at first, what second last year? Like I think that they would really like somebody on passing downs if they were going to sign somebody, but, um, I don't mind Connor there. If they, if they sort of see Giddens and camp and then also a McGowan and they're just like, we need, we need a body here, uh, to spell JT. So that could make sense. Yeah. Dallas, if yeah, if they were looking where they, they like blue in a specific role, but want the bruiser back insurance for Javonte, I could see that. I mean, Connor is basically just an older version of Javonte at this point. If I was a boomer, I would say Miami, uh, and that as much as I love Devon H and he is 188 pounds and they're not going to win anything. Is Ollie Gordon still a thing? I haven't heard him mention in a hot minute. I haven't heard him at all. I mean, I loved him, uh, I loved him as a prospect, but him and Jalen right, honestly, they got nothing. I know, man, I remember they took Jalen, right? He was another just super fast guy. It's like, all right, here they go again, just stacking all these speakers, you know, wasteland at running back. I mean, we knew it at the time, but yeah, it was March on Lloyd. That was uh, Blake Korum, who I guess, I don't know what you want to say about Korum, but yeah, like Tray Benson, Blake Korum, uh, yeah, March on Lloyd. That was a rough one. Uh, Ron and I are drafting a BBM team. We got burrow stacked up with Chase, a little, uh, ooh, on burrow at pick 75. We got the three running backs. Jeremiah loved the Andre Swift and Ramondre along with Chase. We got Pickens Garrett Wilson and Jordan Addison, Harold Fanon at tight end. We'll be, have to keep tabs on quarterback options here, not a ton of obvious stuff. One pick away, you could do Mason as part of a Vikings thing here. I don't know if you like him or Jones more bills here. Um, and then it would maybe be like setting up a quarterback backstack. Hmm, uh, what wider series are available? Uh, kind of a tear break here. We're now down to Higgins, Shakir, Coker, Shaheed, Diggs, Mason. Yeah. Well, grab Mason here, build out the Viking stuff and then yeah, I mean, positionally, I think we have flexibility. I think the fear is, do we get to pick 142 and start to get worried about quarterback options? Honestly, yeah. Um, yeah. Like a love or baker, love backstacks are harder, but probably more intriguing. Baker stuff easier. Think I'm love. Yeah. Does he have anything against Minnesota on the back end? Maybe, um, Minnesota. No. Yeah. Is what it is. I think love is a value here at Pick 123, Terry picks past ADP. I think, uh, I think it works. I'm trying to think of who we could even, uh, there's no, there's no more, uh, Don Tavion wicks there. I know. I know. That's, uh, yeah, you wouldn't really all we got. Marsh on Lloyd. Yeah, craft. It is crazy for how many Packers players go, you know, with golden inching up a little bit. Um, love seems like a nice value. You're going to have three of his guys go, uh, or four of his guys go top 110 picks and then you still have him sliding, uh, not too bad there. I like love. I've been taking a good chunk of them. Uh, he's somebody that, yeah, he's actually my second most drafted quarterback, love because he falls like this. And then, uh, we saw it two years ago, I think where they were like 15th and pass attempts. Yeah. This is a chance now that with like, Michael Parsons going to miss early time, uh, they lose their DC. Josh Jacobs, who really knows what's going on there. And then also, I don't know. I sometimes think I'm the human element like, uh, you know, the floor probably sees these guys like Ben Johnson and, uh, Campbell and McVeigh and Shanahan having all this fun scoring all these points and, uh, passing the ball. Uh, I guess a little bit different with the 49ers where they're so run heavy and, uh, a fish. And I guess they'd like to be like that. But, um, I think I could see this offense bouncing back, even if the passing volume's not there, but I could see them just be like, you know, Jacobs, uh, if they, even if Jacobs is healthy, he's kind of been inefficient. So why not run your offense through love? You did just read jog my memory of, you know, from playing the, uh, the daylies, the, the BRs. And I would always over at, um, uh, in-game syndicate nerdy tenor would run Sims for the individual weeks. And he would show the rates of, you know, how often it was optimal to skinny stack, double stack these various QBs. Obviously the ones you'd expect, uh, like, you know, Jackson Dart and Lamar, you could run them naked because they have so much rushing yards. But one who popped up as a naked option more often than I would have expected was Jordan love because of how spread out the offense was where there were lots of weeks where none of those guys, because you can't project any of them for like a 30% target share. It's all spread out. And so you're not going to get enough points to have a top ten finish in a contest with 60,000 entries or whatever. But there are weeks where Jordan love throws for four touchdowns. And there's big plays in all of that. And so he actually popped as a naked quarterback. So this is me coping and talking myself into naked Jordan love, uh, out of value here. So we're not taking bow melt and round 18. We can. We can always entertain that record. That's right. Um, well, here I talked about the. Oh boy. Am I just in here solo, private chat, Pete frozen. Am I. Okay, I think this is just my stream now, fellas. I could I was looking around like my, my wife, I was the one that got screwed up. I wish I don't think I can, uh, yeah, I can't pull anybody up here, but I guess it's time for me to just, uh, hang out, see what's good. I'll be honest, I was going for a second of like, man, do I got to go unplug a router? I was going to bring the face that I brought up about Melon is because Matthew golden was saying the Packers receivers all watched each other's high school mix tapes. And they said that bow melon had the best one. But then of course, Matthew golden was saying he was playing in New Jersey, which like look, we got, we got studs in New Jersey, but to be fair, it's not quite Texas, but bow melon was a dog who respect on his name. So Ron thinks he can tout. I, it, I'm a, a bit hamstrung here. I can't even pull up chats on the screen. I can't make picks. It's just me. It's just me. I hope Pete doesn't screw up our team. I hope he doesn't screw up my equity in this team. Checking to make sure that Pete's not like, uh, frantically DMing me. I just ever happened in the history of Bestball Breakfast, fellas. So I go tarps off. Oh, yeah, I will say anybody out there. Oh, I got a private chat probably from Pete. Oh, he's computer crashed. I will say to anybody out there watching, uh, I just dropped the draft guide. The basement draft guide dot com is out today. Uh, has my rankings for PPR half PPR super flex. It's really a homely or like FFPC style site. It's not for your best Paul, uh, but very excited about it. Very proud of it. Uh, you can find that on my Twitter, YouTube, all that stuff. Um, and of course, you're on the patreon. You get it for half off. If you're an annual sub on the patreon, you get it for free. I think I'm giving out free game out here. Um, all the value in the world. First product we're doing. I'm stoked about it. Ron, you hidden floor on park this summer. It's tough. It's tough to do things outside of, uh, of stream, make videos, update rankings. Yeah, it's tough. Probably won't be in Forum Park to see a Jets practice. Ron, I'm sorry. Oh, what's going on? My power went out and killed the the Internet. And I for the draft board wasn't even there anymore. Oh my God. This is going to be quite the reveal. Yeah, my power went out, killed the Internet, killed my computer. Let's see who we got auto. This will be a fun reveal here. But actually, Ron, this was a test to see if you out as a solo streamer. And did you pass it with flying? Yeah, well, you know, I probably get myself like a B plus. We'll see, you know, we'll see how the judges determine how I did here. Sorry for leaving you hanging there. All right, let's see what happened. So we got Dejane Stribbling in Chigga Conquo, both as rankings values there. So can we live with that? Oh, absolutely. Okay. Okay. All right. Let's reset here. Sorry for leaving Ron hanging Joe borough and Jordan love. We got Jeremiah love DeAndre Swift from Andre Jordan Mason at running back. Chase Pickens, Garrett Wilson, Addison in Stribbling at wide receiver fan in in Chig. We'll make these picks. And then we can kind of talk through what we got autoed here. Quarterback, we can do the Geno thing. If you wanted to do like the sedic, Garrett Wilson, Geno, wide receiver, what do you, uh, go? Yeah, you do it. They do. You know, do we do the jets thing? You want to do it? Let's do it. Let's have some, I mean, let's have some, you know what? You deserve this as a treat. I just abandoned you here to, to stream. Well, I blanked on the week 17 matchup. We got a Jets first Vikings all lined up here. You're right. You're right. Minnesota in the Jets Mason there. Yeah, on the auto picks, uh, Stribbling at 142 seems fine. Chig, Chig never falls in drafts. Everybody loves Chig. So that seems good too. Yeah, the chick one is tough. He was somebody, uh, I chart every rookie's routes run and he was a monster as a rookie. Uh, and I just have never been able to get in on him at this price, even though I feel like I was an early adopter. Um, yeah, solver likes the idea of Geno here as well. You want to get that third quarterback stacked up. Yeah. What's this going to be like a three six six three? Maybe two times. What do you think? Yeah, what do we have 16 17 18 three more picks? Yeah, I think I think fan and Chigs definitely a tweener. Um, probably three five seven three probably my guess. Please buy me. Did I see a catch in your stream? We got you a rock and team solver this year as well. Yeah, yeah. Um, really the, the thing that put me on to the solvers that, uh, I'm in too many slow drafts, man. Uh, really the solver, like I think the best use case for it and it's kind of, it's not something like, uh, you know, slow draft for kind of behind us now. I know a lot of people out there might might still be joining them. And I don't want to discourage people, but I know a dubner has done some good research on like when the short clock start and that that time has already passed. So I joined like, I'm, I'm in over 100 slow drafts right now, Pete. I'm just going to, I'm just going to tell you something man to man. Like that's just where we're at. Um, so, but no, I want to let, I'll let you know what happens around here. We did, we actually pulled up the dubner tweet at the top of the, the show. And yeah, we, he called like eight six, like last call to, you know, even have a shot at avoiding those. But here's the thing around like I get slow drafts shamed around here when I'm like, Oh, I'm in, you know, 65 70 slow drafts. And then Karein and Davis and these guys will come on. They're literally in hundreds and hundreds of slow drafts. I think Karein at one point said he was in 400 slow drafts. So it seems like a brag, but to the chat, that sounds like a healthy amount for a best ball, bro. So I think, I think you're okay. Yeah. I mean, I'm in one 30. And like I said, that's it. I saw the last call. I don't even want to risk it really, especially, you know, we're making content and stuff like the last thing I need is like the last week of August or like the first week of September, uh, to have things like being like, Hey, two hours to make 40 picks here, brother. And it's like, no. Yeah, exactly. Um, no, I'm with you in that. So there you go. Consider this one of your final PSAs. If you are wanting to get in slow drafts, make sure you do it. Uh, thank you, chat, saying my camera's a little glitchy here coming back from the internet. I will work on toggling this back and forth to get it humming again. Ron and I have three more picks to make in this draft. Uh, we got the Jets thing going. Ron, you know, a little, a little homage to you here. Um, let's see what we're looking at with these final three picks. All right. Uh, man, Judy Calvin Ridley, Gisikey, our solver suggestions. We should probably look at running back stuff here. Tucker kind of a last of a tier, just 80 P wise. Do you like Tucker? Are there any other names here that tickle your fancy? And Martian Lloyd went, huh. Yeah. I was really banking on. Let's do. Yeah. Jaden Blue around. Do you know who else is? Uh, no, he's long gone. You know who else is a good value here, dulcich has slid 20 picks past 80 P if you want a third tight end. I don't know if you like him or Tucker. Do you prefer? Let's do Tucker. Oh, do you know what we can do, dude? Uh, Gisikey, if we want to get. Yeah, let's do Gisikey. Honestly, yeah, let's do that. Honestly, the only reason I didn't say Gisikey is it felt like it'd probably come back to us, but I don't feel convicted enough in anything else to really care. Yeah. No, I'm, I'm with you on that as well. I think just getting Gisikey, the third tight end double stacked up makes sense. And then if we do really just want to punt the final running back selection, we can, um, if there's a wide receiver you prefer here, but yeah, it's probably a running back and a wide receiver. Let's go running back. I don't really do any of these looks good. Uh, do you have any love for any of the rookies, the Singleton, K-Tron Allen? Let's, what do you think about Braille and Allen? Or actually, should we wait for 18th for that? Uh, let's see here. I'm going to do it at the last second, just so we, we get somebody in here. Let's do it. Yeah. Cause so what? Like the thing on Braille and it, it was, I think you mentioned it earlier, right? It was the quote being like, he might not even be, you know, it could be Isaiah Davis. Yeah. Put on 15 pounds of muscle and the guy's already 240 pounds or whatever. Yeah. I don't know. He's just like a fine handcuff. And then I'll, I have to look back and do research of if this has ever paid off, but we talk ourselves into it every summer of like, you're going to bet on a passing offense. Uh, you bet on the handcuff because it kind of correlates, because the breeze goes down, then all of a sudden, they're going to go for, uh, top 10 and past 10. So that's at least the hope with this team. Yeah. Yep. I, uh, he's not someone I want to be going out of my way to draft, but if we are in need of a running back and we're ripping, ripping it in on the jets, I mean, you are just playing the contingent thing of what even, even if Isaiah Davis is involved, uh, if breeze goes down, I mean, he's seeing what 13, 14 touches again. I'd say so. I'd say so. Yeah. I mean, I, I like to push down Braille and I was a breeze guy, but he was somebody that kind of electric as a rookie. It was a very short stint of time where the offense was humming a little bit where he had like a touchdown versus the Titans, where he looked like, like a good player in the NFL. Yeah. Yep. And now let's get creative here, uh, with this final wide receiver pick, uh, sorry about my, uh, my video here, guys, it's just like glitchy coming back from this power outage. So, uh, we're just going to power through here, but we are going to land the plane with Ron and then, I'm going to be sending all of you guys over to watch this so you think you can tout finale. Ron, as we wait here for our final pick, let people know you mentioned daily, uh, or nightly streams here, mentioned the draft guide. What else should people be looking for? So I'll go on over the Ron Stewart YouTube channel stream and every day. We're going to be trying to get videos out as much as we can, whether that's a lot of my stuff is really more redraft managed focus. So it's going to be targets, fades, draft strategy videos, sleepers, all that stuff. Daily streams of the streams can be, underdog, but then a lot of times it'll be the high stakes FFPC or NFFC and I'll mix those in throughout the summer. I've already gone to a ton of questions. The group chat has been fully fired back up between me, Jacob and Liam. Great. We're going to be doing a main event. Those are always very fun. And then yeah, you can just get all of that subscribe through the season in season. I do, you know, waiver wire videos, trade targets, all that. And like I said, we drop the the draft guide as well, the basement draft guide.com. Uh, it's all going on, man. It's August. It's time to lock in daily streams from now through week one. Uh, and I'm stoked about it. We got to touch base on our, uh, do our ship chasing, uh, Ron main event collab as well. We're starting to get our schedule in order here for August. I'll be in touch about that as well. Oh, yeah. Uh, best time of the year, man. It's fun. It is fun. All right. Let's workshop this. wide receiver selection here at the end, from a correlation standpoint. I don't think there's anything we're doing with Green Bay. We have exhausted the bangles options. We have packed our team with jets. We could look at bring back stuff. We've done the Minnesota thing since he's Baltimore. So you could entertain some Baltimore wide receivers there and then Green Bay Houston. So you could entertain like a Jalen Nol as well. Why don't I get Ravens and Texans in here? Do you have a, you know, Bateman goes, there's kind of the Sarat versus Lane conversation. Where do you fall in that? I need Sarat on this team. This gotta be you need it. You need it in a world of me not having convictions. Sarat is like my third most grafted player. OK, I mean, just Uber productive in college. That's all I need. Uber productive and I think that there's a chance that he just becomes the new Mark Andrews and Andrews is washed. And we get with this like fun big slot role. And yeah, he's produced everywhere he's been, man. You go back to St. Francis PA. Everywhere he's gone, he's gone to new teams, new quarterbacks, everything he's produced. I don't know if we're hunting for-- I don't want to put anything too crazy out there. I think like the rookie or Christian Watson is kind of you're hoping for. They're like Chase Claypool. I'm not going to put out like I'm on raw or hooker or anything crazy like that. But those like late season spikes, I could see it from Sarat. Well, what's funny about that is I agree. Like you do the almond raw in Puka and it sounds way too hyperbolic. And yet as a player, as Sarat wins, it would be in that way where he's just earning a ton of targets. Like he's not a Claypool type guy down the field where he's going to get it done with like 40 yard, contested TD catches. But yeah, man, like I think it's a good thesis. And it's kind of the same stuff. I mean, obviously people were down on fan-in just because they're like, oh, rookie tight ends don't produce the Browns, Yada, Yada, and Ninjoku. You find reasons, but it's like these guys who are uber productive in college tend to continue doing that. It is a fun bet in that regard. I mean, he essentially broke Dwayne McFarlane's rookie supermodel as far as guys who are that productive. It's, I think it's a fun bet. Like don't get me wrong. Those guys sometimes that like, I'm trying to think of those like day three guys that the model is like, of course, sometimes they don't pin out. But then sometimes you get like a generation opportunity and it's, I'm on our same brown or it's the fun digs like these guys that kind of fell through the cracks. Yeah. All right. I'm going to recap this team, get your final thoughts. We have Joe Burrow, Jordan Love, Geno Smith, also Jeremiah Love. All we needed was love on this team. DeAndre Swift from Andre Stevenson, Jordan Mason, and yes, Braylon Allen, when you're drafting with Ron Stewart. Jamar Chase, George Pickens, Garrett Wilson, Jordan Addison, Dijon Stribbling, Auto Pick, Adonai Mitchell, Elijah Sarat, Harold Fanon, Chigacon Quo, Astrix, Auto Pick, and Mike Gassicki, despite the power outage, despite the double auto click, how do you feel about this squad? I like it, but it's doing myself no favors. I get all the time for being a Jets Homer, especially this season. We're actually like the offense, but I don't know. You get really reasonable prices on all these guys. Then all of a sudden you get Garrett Wilson. You get these Jets and then the solvers like, oh, maybe you want Geno Smith on top of them. It's like, ah, give me Geno Smith on top. And we'll see what happens. So, I'm a fan of it. We get Jeremy Love. This is a team that has a lot of players that I like. I draft a lot of Jordan Love. I draft a lot of Elijah Sarat, draft a lot of Jeremy Love. And I think we also kind of took our medicine in some spots. With Swift, Ramon Dre, it's not a complete slappy show on this team. No, yeah, I like how this one shook out. Yeah, you do balance the love with the Swift Ramon Dre. Mason, you know what? It's like, I was trying to think of, what is this Jets thing like where it's like every time you say, am I going to really do this again? Am I going to end up with a Geno Smith team? And it is like the TV cliche of the detective who gets pulled in for one more last case. And he's like, I'm done. I'm retired. And then you're like, well, Omar Cooper's a pretty good value here, Ken Yitzadek. And then it's, all right, fuck. I'm all in again. Another Geno Smith team. So, it is hard to see like, if you get multiple wins, you know, could get it in brief, have just a high volume, high usage season where they pay off their ADP even with really bad quarterback play. I think so. I think they're both talented enough and can consolidate. But if a Sadek or Cooper is smashing their ADP, it feels like a lock that Geno is at least average this year. Yeah, I don't see why he kind of, I hate to draw everything back to the Seahawks. They were such a crazy outlier, but just because I can't really think of the other examples in my head of just, we, we see it all the time like Vegas implied stuff is great, but there's going to be a couple of these teams near the bottom that outperform expectations. I like the jets and the carnels to both be those teams where I think like, I'd be shocked if it was the Dolphins or the Browns, but that's kind of how I've been playing those like four. I guess I'll call them like the bottom feeders of those implied total charts. There's a chance that they're just, you know, can they be like the 20th best offense in the NFL and be somewhat passable, and that's really how we're hoping for. All right, Ron Stewart, appreciate you joining me. Apologize for making you solo stream there for a few minutes. Go check him out at Ron Stewart, their Twitter, YouTube, all of that good stuff and keep an eye out for some future collaborations here. As I mentioned before, so you think you can tout finale debuting here in less than 15 minutes. You'll get redirected from this stream, otherwise just search. So you think you can tout on YouTube, very excited for you guys to see that finale. Otherwise typical programming this week, except the only other new wrinkle. I'm going to add Wednesday best ball breakfast, 10 a.m., we will be joined by the so you think you can tout winner on Wednesday, and also I just booked my two other guests there. You'll have Ben Gretch and Kootardoodle, who will be joining. So we're going to have an awesome rotating cast of characters there on the Wednesday best ball breakfast. Thursday, randomizer slash best ball bash, Danny Heifetz from the ringer, the great fantasy football ringer podcast. He's going to be joining that will be a fun time. Still have a few other shows to book and figure out this week. So you can stay tuned on Twitter and in the discord for those announcements. Otherwise, enjoy the finale. Thank you, everyone, for hanging out, producer Mark, shout out Sam, shout out Ron, shout out Levitan, and you guys, the chat, even you, Jalen, Naylor, bros, of which I learned are Legion today. I'm Pete Oversett. Get your Vassalero since Sun's coffee on your way out from a coat, Pete, 25% off that first order and free shipping. We'll see you guys next time on best ball breakfast, peace.