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The Odyssey: The Way Out is In | History Hyenas

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The Odyssey: The Way Out is In | History Hyenas

In this episode of *History High Heinous*, Chris Stefano (Chrissy) blends personal storytelling with cultural commentary, exploring themes of identity, resilience, and human psychology. He recounts a painful shoulder injury, reflecting on how physical and emotional fatigue shape his daily life, while emphasizing his sharp observational skills—traits he compares to those of a woman. A key anecdote about a baseball game at Citi Field reveals how personal experiences, like being mistreated by the Yankees, can shift loyalty and highlight the emotional complexity behind team allegiances. The episode delves into ancient Greek culture, particularly the *Odyssey*, interpreting it not just as a mythological tale but as a mirror of human behavior, where hubris, temptation, and emotional struggle are central. The Greeks' scapegoat ritual (*pharmakos*) illustrates their lack of empathy, while their personification of emotions (like pride or lust) as gods reveals a sophisticated understanding of psychology. The discussion extends to modern debates over cultural representation, such as Lupita Nyong’o’s casting in a Greek-themed film, arguing that cultures evolve and are not fixed. Chrissy also reflects on personal growth, rejecting parental approval and embracing autonomy. Ultimately, the episode blends humor, self-awareness, and deep cultural insight, showing how ancient Greek wisdom continues to influence modern life—especially in areas like ethics, identity, and the human struggle for meaning.

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What's up everybody welcome to another episode of history high heinous I'm Chris Stefano a.k.a Chrissy Cramini mushrooms with me as always y'all is pop is a K.a. Yoni's egg tits I like to call yeah you can notice I've had a rough time what happened is now you're just now you're just wearing shirts that it you're not hiding anymore yeah you don't care go to youtube.com slash history high heinous every single Thursday like and subscribe to see these titties on and patreon.com slash history high heinous pay for these titties that's yes yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you still handsome but I have when you were walking today I said he doesn't care anymore yeah yeah the thing about you the your comedian the thing about comedians people really underestimate is we are professional notisers yes we get paid to notice and you have the eyes not of a hawk but of a woman yes you're you do have the eyes you notice slight differences in hair slight differences in office you looked at my shoes yeah which is wild it's what a woman does yeah he noticed right away I saw him at the thing he looked down he goes you got nice Chris air max on yeah I didn't notice what sneakers he was wearing until he told me what sneakers he was wearing yeah you noticed you know what kind of week I've had based on my appearance you know that I've fallen way off the food wagon yes I've been having burgers I've been having sausages I've been drinking I've been having tons of sweets too many right and you notice the evidence in my tits I notice evidence in your tits and I notice that your allergies were a little bad you were a little banged up I noticed it's about you because what it is like a woman is on the healer and I said how can I help you I'd like to help you and it's what it is and I know but you do get secret enjoyment of my downfall because you're a woman too yeah and the women fight like that yeah the women fight with false compliments I love your air max and then in the minds going batch yeah so you said you love my air max but in your head you went batch or yeah or like I said you know don't worry y'all I said you're still handsome but in my head I'm saying you're fat you're fat yeah and and so and I noticed too that you had I and I put two into it together I said I know you had a fun week and I know you probably threw some back through some bruise back because you went and you had a nice weekend with the neighbors and you skipped the juice house and you went to the pollock house guys go to christie comedy.com I got a new hour of material I'm on the road June 26th 27th and Stanford Connecticut August 28th 29th Atlantic City New Jersey more dates coming I love you guys catch me in Atlantic City June 26th 27th East Hampton July 10th New Brunswick New Jersey July 17th and 18th Philadelphia August 14th and 15th guys Patreon.com/history hi heinus to just get your all in one hyena fan package you get the episodes a day early uncensored ad free if you don't like listening to all that by this also you get our bonus episodes some of our funniest episodes are weekly bonus episodes additional content just become a member of our community patreon.com/history hi heinus so once when you do that when you skip around and you just have fun with the Polish because Polish kids yeah they really like to have a good time here's the thing about here's the thing about Polish people more than me I know Polish people big and I know any level of Polish person they really like to drink they really like to have a good time and they really don't allow Muslims in the country that's just what you are oh you mean they're their country now yeah very Catholic and they just really kind of have a big border around their country they don't because they got kicked around a lot by the Nazis and you know and that's what it is so I do know that and I know that Polish people you know even though like you know Dr. Lukasz very skinny man very high cholesterol he's got worse cholesterol than me so the thing is because they like to throw a few that what they're doing is they're all day they're drinking vodka and eating parogues and they do it they do it privately in their own homes yeah yeah well you know I want to make this episode really shoot up right so I'm just going to say what everyone wants to say the problem is not the Muslims okay yeah it's the Muslims and Christians against the Jews that's what it is right because the Muslims recognize Jesus as a prophet yeah numbers through the roof through the roof yeah that's what it is that's what it is now now look I'm off the beam yeah in a major way I told you I have a laboral shoulder laborum tear I like to call you Chrissy veterans now yeah Chrissy veterans I'm Chrissy vert old school veteran who's gotten now you're at the point where you're gonna have to do veteran tricks yeah you got to rub a little icy hot you're gonna do a little Vaseline on your fastball yeah yeah body is banged out it's banged up and I had for for the last three months at war victor you the only guy with war wounds that hasn't been in battle hasn't been in battle but I do still fight the Japanese on a daily basis way so you got a lot of wars going in in your head yeah and you just want an ethno you do what you want to you want to ethno state it's a one and it's so state of German right Protestant it's just what your Catholic because in my mind I'm on the front lines every day so when I yeah cuz cuz what it is cuz is when I come down my stairs and I see my family and I see the multiple members of my family that I didn't invite to my house it's like when the boat when the back of the boat's opening in D day and I say I'm going in I'm storming the beach cuz that's what it is cuz make absolutely no mistake I have I have a wild family and um so but so I got this a laboral tear and it's and it's the first time ever in my life that I could not sleep from the pain in my shoulder to the point where I was like it really is making me think like how how for granted you take like now I got real pain I can't do the exercises I want I can't hold my kid it's our birthday tomorrow I can't throw them in the pool because I got this laboral tear and I was up all night you know I was trying to get Jasmine off she wouldn't do it and then and then I got it a rub a little cream on my arm but that's about it and I mean I'm in real pain cuz and it sucked and I gotta and then once the laboral tears here's what I know once the labor tears it doesn't come back that I won't have a labor now for the rest of my life yeah yeah yeah you know you're built for the first half of life it's what it is what it is God makes those things you know what you said I look good today you do look good but see I feel like I don't look good my whoop recovery I'm at 20% recovery I'm in the red my hair doesn't feel good I did my physical therapy I was almost crying when I couldn't move my arm your Chinese electronics it's what it is on the outside you're going like wow that's a good price I'm gonna buy it and then it breaks real quick yeah yeah so you're just Chinese electronics Chrissy right now my shoulders are made in China you're a good package but once you start using you a little bit there's broken parts it's and you got to buy a new one yeah your Achilles is falling off your foot's about to fall off your feet are broken well you're crucified but here's the thing let me just give you guys an update yeah this will therapy for my knees and my Achilles you got this I get look at this right go this way where you look close to that no you're not you're blocking it completely close it to the desk yeah yeah good cool do you kill these see that's all off the floor yeah no pain but now look this is how you're supposed this is normal range of motion on a shoulder yeah that's fine look at this one whoa good not good yeah not good we're coming into what we call a little thing we call in the biz adhesive capsillitis aka frozen just shoulder yeah yeah well at least it's frozen in a way that you're comfortable with you just got to go the other way with all yet because he keeps saying because the maybe it's happening for a reason the therapist because the therapist keeps saying he's like you know you're not no range of motion I said what it's the fun what are you talking about it's moving the other way it's the way God wanted it to go maybe God's giving you a boost to yeah where it needs to be because you know as you were saying before the cameras turned on I mean you know it's coming back a one party systems coming back are we either going to have the liberal communists who come in and do it one way or the fastest coming and smash yeah maybe he should get my arm ready for some smash yeah yeah yeah it's definitely go everything's become so decentralized because making a mistake whatever happens whatever happens in the future I know Jesus on the good guy side whoever is always on your side he's waiting for you it's what it is he's within us all he's within us all he's outside he's the kingdom of God is within us and outside of us and outside of us yeah it's definitely going to go that way you know we people forget we're a teenage country right right we're a teenage country yeah we got the bolster we got the emotional swings we throw the tantrums that's why the rest of the world jerks off towards yeah have you noticed the out the rest of the world is kind of tired they throw it right like you go places and they're like you can just smell all the carnage that happened and everyone's walking around just going like we did that like yeah just chill out yeah here we're here going like yeah we're like beaver's about to go let's go let's go yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you're like there those places already did that yeah and everyone got slaughter yeah remember remember that old pre workout when we were at teenage just called anel explode yeah that's what we're on anel explode we're ready to go and you know how like a teenager you can tell them the wisdom but then they do it anyway because they need to learn it for themselves right so I feel like we're at that stage where we want to learn the horrors of history for ourselves for ourselves so I think America's gonna go through a little growing up period I don't and I don't think it's avoidable I don't think you can avoid I think it's just you just buckle down get your bunker yeah just wait it out and you just wait it out and we'll see what happens um you because today you want to talk about the oddest I wanted to talk about Eugene shorts first yeah I got on you got shorts on because I got shorts on and make no mistake I do I feel like a woman in the South yeah what I was looking maybe what you should do is cut those things off and tighten them up so you could look like dirty dancing that's what I'd like to do and I wore these shorts yesterday to city field yesterday we went to the Metz Yankees game now I decided to bring jazz in the kids and of course just in fashion you know I was in the car an hour before waiting they don't come down we left my house um about five minutes before the actual game started took an hour to get there in traffic so we don't get there to the end of the third inning right of course they're complaining you know we're in this beautiful suite they're complaining you know oh it's their games far and uh they want to go home my third cousin is it just got called up we're gonna miss it we're gonna miss that shit so now so we're waiting waiting waiting and then all of a sudden you know Just complaining. girls complaining, everybody's complaining. I'm like, I just want to watch a baseball game here. And then it's the eighth inning. Yankees are up six, three, okay? Everybody thinks, okay, game's over. It's at the city field. They're like, come on, let's just go. I say, can we just, we've only gotten the third inning. What's the difference? We got so much time, it's a one o'clock game. They're like, come on, let's go. So, have to leave begrudgingly. We're in the car, in the traffic leaving. All of a sudden, you hear city field erupt. They hit a three, the met's hit a three run homer in the bottom of the ninth to tie the game. So now I'm just gripping the wheel. Just even jazz, no, she was like, wow. What is that because the game's over? Yeah, wahapa. Yeah, and then I put on the radio, the announcers are going crazy. I go, just missed history. And then they win, of course, in the bottom of the tenth. And I'm just sitting in traffic and flushing surrounded by Chinese people. Just listening to one of the best games in the league this year while I'm just sitting there, as jazz is complaining. The kids are complaining telling me to put on K-POP and the demon hunters and then Kat's eye. And I'm just like, you know, I was alone, I was alone. I'm like, how about I drive this car off the RFK bridge? Right. You know what I like about you, you know, I think, I think definitely we, I believe in former lives for sure. Sure. I think in a former life, I was probably a dog. And unfortunately, I was probably a dog 'cause I love dogs, what you can say. The things you're told to probably what you were. So I was probably a dog, but unfortunately, I was probably a dog in Korea. Right. I had a short life for this, but I was delicious at some point. Yeah. You know, doubt feel a tug towards the revolutionary period. Yeah. And there's no question you were revolution, you were in that time, but you were some sort of double agent intelligent asset. Right. Because for you to have the ability to switch from the Yankees to the Metz so quick and feel nothing for the Yankees. Be nothing for the Yankees now. Means your up, your pussy is up to the highest bidder. Yeah. You sell that pussy to whoever fucking, because how could you watch the Metz and Yankees and be so happy about the Metz time in the game? When you were a lifelong Yankee fan, I mean, Barney Rubble must be fucking turning in his grave that he's not in yet, but soon. Soon. But Barney Rubble, actually Barney Rubble is on my side because it got personal with the Yankees and the Metz. So that's what happened because the Metz started to, you know, I did a, uh, but it's your something in your heart that still tugs for the Yankees. I don't hate the Yankees. The thing is I don't hate the Yankees and I wasn't necessarily rooting for one team or I was just enjoying the game yesterday. If the Yankees won the World Series, I would love to see that. I don't hate them, but the problem is it got personal because the Yankees were just such being such scumbags to my family, to me and my family, especially my steps and they just really treated them like shit. And then the Metz just treated my family so well that you just kind of saw a little bit of the inner workings of the organization. I said, the Metz just seemed like better people on the front office than the Yankees. Granted, I only met a couple of people in the Yankees friend office. There was one lady who was really nice, who would give the tickets for the Yankees, shout out Debbie. She was always awesome. But some of the other people I ran into really just dirt bags and thought of they were. And I didn't like the way they treated my family. So it got personal. So, you know, and that's why sometimes, you know, my friends are like, how, you know, my friends from home are like, how could you switch the Yankees and Metz? I said, it's personal guy. Okay, I got to meet the high ups and team. You're never going to meet the high ups on the team. So when you shut your fucking mouth and enjoy your fucking cargo shorts in section 300, you could suck my ass. They disrespected my steps, son. - Right. - And I'm just not going to stand for it. - So, yeah, I mean, you know, what we just learned there is sort of like, one of those universal truths that we all have to accept, right, is that the better people, the better people are usually the losers in life. - It's what it is. - And when they call it the evil empire, it's usually, you know, because they're horrible people, you know, that's why the Yankees are so great, right? They win a lot, but it just comes at a cost, right? It's like when you meet successful people, it's like, don't meet your heroes. You really find out that their pieces are shit and that's what you got to be too sweet. That's what it is. And here's the thing, is I feel like, you know, Barney Rubble told me something once we were sitting in traffic on the barracks on a bridge and somebody, somebody cut him off, cars were honking, whatever my dad had no reaction. He never had road rage, which I always learned. That's why I don't think I have any road rage. And he was like, 'cause he didn't have anything on any money on the car that hit him. - Right. - That's what it is. - And so, so I said to him, that doesn't upset you. And he was like, Chris, you're going to really start to enjoy life when you understand life isn't fair. - Yeah. - And then I think he was just looking at himself in the mirror when his eyes go in this way. You know, it's driving a, you know, in 1987, Oldsmall bill, the door is used to fly open on the middle of the high. - So it was like a Tesla before the Tesla? - Yes, I used to have to hold the door. It's not close. So, they just used to fly open, somebody deal with that. So I always thought that, like, yeah, I always knew that, yeah, it's not fair. And I thought about that already too. I was like, yeah, the Yankees, they are who they are. Just like the most successful people, usually pieces of shit. But it's like, I'd like to be happier with the little less. You know what I actually saw, a study, this is just recently I saw that people who always are saying like that grind mentality and you got a grind and all day, they have the same levels of stress as people who are poverty, 'cause they're just stressed out in a different way. - That's it, yes, that's it. - So you gotta have a balance. Now that is a perfect segue into diving back into the antiquity, antiquity specifically means the ancient Greek times. - That's what it is. - The Glorious. - Glorious. - Because back then, they had a pantheon of gods. - Right. - And interestingly enough, the Greeks weren't into weakness. - No, and the Greeks also too, you can always call that the Glorious and say that the good old days, and I think it's safe for everybody, 'cause that slaves were white back then. Slavic slaves. - Ways on humans. - So it's fair. - So my point is you can get 'cause a lot of times, you know, you'll have non-white people back. That glory, of course, for you. - For your life. - For your life. - You know, you just have to deal with that thing that they keep hearing on the algorithm, and you have to just be like, do you have any of your own thoughts or you just a follower for everything you do in your life? You just want to start saying that to people, like to have your own original idea. - But. - So. - I like steel pipe, Chrissy, he's my friend. - 'Cause it's fun. - It's fun. - I have it slept in my shoulder hurts. - Yes, so let's hit it. - But slaves were white in Greek antiquity, so it's a plus for everybody. - Yeah, it's a good time. - Yeah. - Yeah, it's a good time, it's a, you're saying, it's safe to say good all days, 'cause you say good all days and any other time, then you know, people just are like, oh, yeah, this is this response I'm supposed to have, 'cause I saw it online. - Yeah, it was good for you. - I'm supposed to be upset by this. - It was good for you. - Good for you. - It wasn't good for me, you're like, you weren't there, but yeah, it was good, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, so this is a fun one that I just learned about today, or yesterday, or whatever. So the Greeks, they had something called, 'cause you got to start working on your biceps, you're starting to piss me off. (laughing) - I'm starting, I'm just deflating. - You're starting to piss me off now. I need you to get a pump. (laughing) - I'm starting to look fat. - Yeah, I hate it, yeah. - I want you to at least use that biceps. - I had them like last week, so they're gone. - Yeah, yeah. - Where are they? - Yeah. - You're starting to piss me off. (laughing) - So the Greeks, the Greeks, the Greeks had a ritual called Farmacos, which means a scapegoat ritual. - Okay. - Which is wild, it was sort of like, I'm crying. It's sort of like the purge, this is so interesting. So during times of plague's famine or crisis, marginalized people, this is so horrible. Sometimes it'scribed as criminals beckoned, disabled, or ugly. - Okay, yeah. - So they would take ugly people from the village. - Yeah. - And they'd be beaten, humiliated, or killed in a symbolic purification of the city. - It just got them out. - So it's bad. - Yeah, so they just weren't into it. 'Cause they ain't, they didn't deal with traffic. (laughing) - Right, it kinda just got things done a little quicker. - Yeah, well, you know, they didn't really have, you know, the Greeks, the thing that they didn't have was like, they didn't really have a care for the weak or empathy, they didn't have a God for that. The only thing they had was hubris, like be carefully hubris, like being like cocky. - Yeah, just like being too cocky. - Yeah. - And that's what we're gonna talk about the Odyssey today. And Odysseus, you know, they loved the poem, you know, Odyssey is a story about a guy who was extremely cunning, like, and that's and witty. And so you survive, they valued cunning over like pure brute strength. - Right. - So he was, he's like a complicated hero, but they loved his brain, his wittiness. - Right. - So they didn't like you if you were fucking stupid. - It's just what it is. - And apparently if you were unpleasant to the eye, you got beaten, you got beat when food got a little tight, if you were ugly, 'cause like, there was no plastic surgery to fix that situation. Unfortunately, the old Kardashians, like, pre-new faces. - We wouldn't have never met them. - They wouldn't have been out of here. - What's the called again? - Pharmacos. - Pharmacos. - Pharmacos. - A little pharmacos. - Yeah, a little pharmacos. So, they were really, you know. - Now, when was this practice? This was 2000 years ago, Pharmacos? - No, this was a long time ago. - Even before I was talking about like, yeah, 9,000, 7,000, 6,000 years ago, whatever that was. - The weeks have just been in a long time. - It was a long time. - Do you ever think that, and we'll get more into the Odyssey, but do you think that potentially Greeks could have been manipulated, DNA manipulated by extraterrestrials? 'Cause of how far they were able to advance? - No. - You know what I think so? - No, I think all that, like, extraterrestrials, I don't buy any of that shit. I don't buy Atlantis as a law city. I don't buy the Egyptians, the fucking aliens built it. I don't, I think that they were extreme. They got very sophisticated. I'd be like the ancient, Egypt was around for thousands of years. Like we talked about, like, there was historians ancient tours in Egypt of ancient Egypt. So they were around for a long time. They got sophisticated and they figured out how to build a fucking giant triangle. People get all crazy 'cause it's like, it lines up with some stars or some shit. Yeah, they were sophisticated. They didn't have an air conditioner yet, but they knew how to build a fucking giant triangle. It's what it is. They had slaves, they had workers, they had stars, they learned how to build a fucking, it's a triangle. Why is everyone freaking out about a fucking triangle? - A triangle and also, I just wanna let you know that the Egyptians are okay to talk about 'cause their slaves were Jews. - Yeah, so if the Jews were in chains at any moment in history, then most people in our algorithms say, that's a good one. - That's a good one. - Yeah, I mean, so it's like, yeah, they were ancient people, they figured it out. The Greeks, you know, and then they go, oh, the thing about the Greeks that you have to just accept. And this is, unfortunately, people take this as like an ethno thing because people get crazy, right? They get emotional. But like, look, look at my jeans, right? So my jeans, half of them are minnowing. Like, I'm actually a DNA Greek going all the way back. But then I'm anotolian. - Right. - But I was Greek. So it's like, what happened was Alexander the Great spread Greek culture all over the place. And my peoples were some anotolian farmers. Right? We were up for grabs. We could've went, Mousie, we could've went Christian. We could've went, Buddha, gah, gah, gah. We could've went, whatever gods were there. - Right. - We went Christian, we went Greek. - Right. - So it's a culture that spreads. And there's one thing you can't deny about a culture. I was just became that guy again. - Yeah. - Is that Greek culture is like the bedrock of like everything good now. - Right. - It just can't deny that. - I agree with that. - Even though, if you, Mousie, you can't argue that the Muslim golden age wasn't highly influenced by the translation of like the ancient Greek thinkers. Like, it's the bedrock from which all good things have sprung in modernity, architecture, mathematics, large, the list goes on. Geometry, whatever, you know, insects, all the good things to do. - It's just what the only issue you have with your bedrock is the pool that they put in was a little uneven. - It was a little uneven. - And the contractor got a talking too? And now it's even. - Yeah, it's even. - Yeah. - Well, yeah, we figured it out. - We figured it out? - Yeah, we figured it out. I mean, we figured it out somewhere. I'm not, yeah, we figured it out. - We figured it out, yeah. - We figured it out. - Yeah, the guy got real nervous. - Yeah, the problem is these guys loved the show. So it's one of them. - It's one of them. - Yeah. - I'm very happy with that. - Yeah, it's very happy with it. - Yeah. - Wouldn't sometimes, it's very uncomfortable when someone in your life who can be a source of material and then they just tell you that they're big fans of this show. - Yeah, it's so easy. - Just listen to this right now. - Yeah, but what I've decided to do, I'm very happy with the pool. - What I've decided to do. - Any thoughts I have? I'll tell you privately. - Yeah, it's just what it is. Or I'll read the text message out at www.patreon.com/history. I eat it, okay? - We're gonna stop. - Yeah. - Which is, it's all good though. - It's all good. - It's all good. - Let me tell you something right now, Christopher. Christopher, this stuff now. - That's what it is. - I get all my clothes from Quince. No stop, as the boys say, the kids say, no cap. - No cap, I get all my clothes from Quince and I also get all the bedding and stuff. I got blinds off Quince. 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And we thank Blutew for sponsoring the podcast and sponsoring our pieces. - Yeah. - But, you know, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - People do like to show, and sometimes it's a conflict, 'cause sometimes Chris' family listens to the show. - Well, I know, and it's what it is, but what I've started doing recently in my life is saying, I'm not seeking parental approval anymore if anything of my life. I'm starting to think about life as what would I do? What would I be doing if my parents were in here? That's how you gotta live your life. That's how you get to happiness. Stop trying to seek your parental's parents approval as you get older, because it's like that holds you back in life. Like, y'all, you're free, you do whatever you want, you got that wig on, you got the skirt on. It doesn't matter, okay? - Yeah, 'cause you're your own man now, you're an adult. It's just what it is, but I've spent a lot of my adult years just trying to seek parental approval. I'm just not doing it anymore. - I can understand it. - 'Cause you're a man now, you are your own father. - It's what it is. - It's what it is. - You are your parent to other now. - So I tore my shoulder labor, jerkin' off to gay point. (laughing) - 'Cause you're just doing what you want to do. - I'm doing what I want to do right now, okay? - I took a flight down and go see thunder from down under in Australia. - Yeah. - 'Cause I said, I don't care what my mom did. I think of me anymore, and I ripped the labor off. - This is what happens. - This is what happens, you're a free man. - I'm a free. - You're a bird. - You're a free bird. You're no longer a tilt, you're a free tilted bird. - That's what it is. So the Odyssey. - Yeah, let's talk about that. - Ray Clops, yeah, there's the Cyclops in it. You know what, 'cause I gotta be honest, I was listening to it, I was learning about it. I don't really know. You're more of the expert with the Odyssey. I know some parts about it, but I don't really know, you know, the story, so I'm eager to learn. - There's one word that has no truth on the show. Our show is, there's one thing that you said that just doesn't exist on the show. - Everything exists on the show except for expert. - Yeah. - There's nothing involved in the show. - That's true. - There's expertise. - That's a good point. - This is one of the stupidest rooms in the country. - It's what it is. - This is a gathering of four of the stupidest people to ever live. If me and you didn't have any comedic talent, we would be hard pressed to get jobs anywhere. - Big time. - I mean, you are a physical therapist, but you're like on the low wrong of physical therapists. - Well, I can't even rehab my own shoulders. - Yeah, I mean, you dropped a noodle in a cadaver. - It's what it is. - I mean, yeah. - You are like, to Filipinos look at you, you know, it's like, really are we gonna let this fucking immigrant do what we do. They look at you that way. - Right. - They go, this is a Filipino thing. There's some fucking jacked white guy. Try to be a physical therapist. This guy dropped a noodle in a cadaver. - It's what it is. - And why am I calling a cadaver a cadaver? - A cadaver. - It's not a cadaver. - And then you're, and then you come, - I'm a fucking retarget. - I was gonna say, then you come from a family where your older brother went to Oxford. - Yeah. - And then people say, oh, talking about the poppers brother, say they say, isn't one of them, doesn't one of them have special needs. And they don't know if you or your actual brother has special needs. - Yeah, it's exactly right. - 'Cause they'll see you on Facebook and they'll see them a recent week. And they're not sure if it's you or their brother who's in a group home. - Right. - Exactly. - Because, listen, he has an excuse. I don't. - I don't. That's the thing. - So I actually might put you lower than here. - Yeah, you can't even say special needs. People are like, you can't make fun of them because they don't have a choice. - Yeah. - Like, I'm stupid. Like, and I have the potential to not be. - Right. - I just don't have, I'm just not built with the winning qualities that make that happen. It's just what it is. So, yeah, I just, yeah. Call me anyone out and hear an expert or anything. - It's what. - The only thing that me and you are an expert on is not being an expert. - Right. - So, I learned about the Odyssey now. I never read it. I didn't grow up with it 'cause my parents barely paid attention to me. Most Greeks, this is a big deal. Greeks are very upset that there's a black woman in the ass. It's what it is. - The movie coming out. - Yeah, they're just very upset. And this is the thing that they're very upset about the black woman. But, if you know, the ancient Greeks actually admired the ancient Ethiopians' cause. - Yeah. - And they actually called them hot. - They don't know hot. - Eat the open women are beautiful. - Yeah, they called them like hot. - No, what is Elliot Page doing in the movie? - They're also upset about that. Is she, what is she doing? - What is he doing? - What, what's his part? (laughing) - Well, it's become a huge thing on the internet now. And I have to say, it's funny in a way that I think would hurt his feelings a lot, but it's hard. It's hard. I know you're on the internet a lot. They started making movie trailers with Elliot Page in like very manly warlike scenes. - Right. - And Elliot Page is just getting brutalized. So they're using AI, 'cause Elliot Page is in the movie. And they did some movie about war. - But do you know what character Elliot Page is? - She's like a guy. - No, she's not a kid. Dude, if it was a killie's, I think the Greeks would, I riot. - Yeah, she is a killie's. - She's a killie's? So I gotta, yeah, I made a video, and there's a lot of Greeks upset with me. And they might have been the ones that spam reported me. 'Cause they, I said it, look, this is a fantasy. It's not a big deal. But here's a deal, I might be wrong. 'Cause even my brother was upset about the African woman [BLANK_AUDIO] and he goes, well, that's stupid. I go, listen, it's fantasy. Anyone can play whoever they want. Like, I don't care about them at all, 'cause it's like whatever, if they're actors, are we gonna get upset? Nobody was upset with Anthony Quinn played Zorba. - Yeah, it was about him. - It's not Eric. I mean, what, are we gonna get upset when Al Pacino played Carlito? I mean, who gives a shit? - Somebody played the Egyptian pharaoh. Somebody played Moses, who was a white guy? - Yeah, I mean. - Who cares? - Who gives a shit? I heard somebody say, with that one, I think I forgot who played him. But it was like, they didn't have a Middle Eastern actor that could sell the type of tickets that whomever the lead was. I forgot who it was, what act? So it's like, this is what it is. Like, people are gonna go see Mt. Aimee in LA Page. - Yeah, I just, well, I don't know about LA, but I don't know. But yeah, I think people, I think what it is is the culture war is kind of leaked into the movies, Jesse, right? Is that what you're taking? - Well, I think the movies are the ones who start them all. - Or start, yeah, I don't know why people are so worked up about this. - Yeah, there's some rumors going around that in order to win an Academy Award, you need specific casting. So you have to have a person of color and you have to have a trend. So they changed the rules of what can win now. - Got it. - So that's why they're cast. - Is that true? Is that, is that it? - Probably true. - Yeah, they changed how you can win a Oscar. - Well, either way, I don't care. I don't know why people, I don't care. Then don't go see the movie. Like, why are people? - Why are people so upset? - By the way, that's just a theory. We don't know why Christopher Nolan cast it the way he cast it. Other than, it's really big in the news right now. - To me, I don't care. - It's huge in the news. - I don't care, but it's just something to talk about. I'm gonna go see the movie regardless. I don't give a fuck who's accurately represented. It looks like a good movie. Doesn't it? - Yeah, I mean, it's Christopher Nolan. So, I mean, I mean, what has not happened? - I wanna see some of that. - Sideclops, you know, crushing people. - What, yeah, and my only point is, why was I not considered for that role? - So you should have at least got to know this. - Yeah, I should have got to know this should be like, we don't need, we can save a lot on special effects. I wanna see it. I wanna see if I can get my little greasy hands on an early copy. - Yeah, you should have been in something too. You look like a big old- - Yeah, it's just what it is. 'Cause it's just what is TV and film have just consistently said no. (laughing) - Well, that's why I'm into a standup and podcast there. - So, but, you know, as it turns out, I mean, how bad, that didn't turn out to be that bad of a thing. - No! - I don't think. I think people did it because they had to do it, but I don't know how many people really actually enjoyed it. - What? - Like the process of making a movie. - No, I don't think so. - I think probably being in a play is funner. - More fun. Well, that's why you see a lot of guys doing it, but this cast from the Odyssey looks great. Now, here's the thing, is what? I wanna know about what the Odyssey means to you, and I wanna know about, tell me about the Odyssey, 'cause here's the only broad strokes that I know. - You wanna take an 11 milligram just so we have something to play for? - No, but I would, but I'm holding in an emergency shit, and I already drank three coffee today, 'cause I got an hour's sleep. - Okay. - So, if I did it, I would've taken one and given myself a hard attack. But, here's what I know about the Odyssey. I know that it was written by Homer, who was the poet who's definitely gay kid, right? - Yeah, I mean, the thing about that is, we're not sure whether it was like, Homer wrote it, or it was like a collection of pubs and he's the guy, or maybe the guy that compiled all these oral traditions. It's just like the same thing with the Greek gods. They were around in oral traditions. Same thing with like Christianity, right? Oral traditions passed down, and then finally someone writes it down. So, they think Homer might be a bunch of different writers and he collected it or something like that. Or he could be the guy who wrote it all. They don't know for sure. - So, what's the difference between the Iliad and the Odyssey? - He, him or they, them. - Is it the Iliad and the Odyssey, Homer wrote both of them? - Yeah, and so, what's the Iliad? That's the one with the Battle of Troy, the Trojan Horse? - Yeah, that's the one with that, and then Odyssey's, he's coming him. - Come and go, and it's time. - He's coming him, he's going to Philly, he's coming him. And I know that it takes him 10 years to get home and the kid just really misses his wife and kids, but on the way, he does bang out some. - He bangs out some gods, he bangs out some chicks. - It's just what it is, 'cause back then, it was like, I really love my family, but that doesn't mean I'm not gonna get sucked off by his siren. - Live 14. - So, it's an amazing tale with a lot in it. And just researching for this made me realize a lot of things. - Going about this. - I was talking about us, well, you know, it's trending. So, we're playing the internet game. - Just what it is. - There's no bigger news right now than this, right, and it's big controversy. People are upset, what's her name, Lupita? Lupita. - She's an excellent actress. And she is a pee, pee, pee, pee. - No, I was telling my brother, my brother said, I saw your video, but I don't know everything about it. My brother is a super-lip, so I was like, it's fine, it's no big deal. And then he goes, well, I think it's kinda stupid that she's playing Helen. And I don't know. - I don't know. - Because Helen was most likely if she was Troy, that's, no, I'm sorry, Penelope, I think she's, I'm sorry, she's playing Penelope. - Who's Penelope? - Penelope is like main character wife, right? Is she playing Penelope? So is that, is that Odyssey, is that his wife, the guy who travel in 10 years, that's his wife? - Yeah, Odysseus, yeah, Odysseus. - Who is she playing? - Lupita's, he put Lupita's. - Lupita's in Odyssey. - Yeah. Judging by Lupita's in Odyssey. - Yeah. - How do you spell Lupita, I don't know. - L, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, I don't know. - Lupita, Lupita's, yeah, and then, so how do you spell Lupita's? - Lupita's, Lupita's, yeah, she's playing Helen Troy. - And Helen's sister, how is she playing two people at once? - I don't know. Listen, I say, oh, and half the way is Penelope. So I was wrong about that. I think people just need to give it a chance. And also, it's a fictional story. Also, we're in America now. So it's like our interpretation of it. - Yeah. - It's the same thing with like Greek culture. It's like Alexander the Great viewed it. You know, he wasn't Greek the way Minotans were Greek. He was Macedonia. They were all Greek. The same way the Byzantine Empire was Greek. - It's a culture that's-- - Honey, that's what happens with culture, baby. - Yeah. - Or just is what people, I don't know why this isn't spoken about more. It's like when you talk about ancient cultures, when the Greek culture, the whatever, the African culture, whatever culture you're a part of, whatever you're practicing right now, there's a very high chance that your great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandmothers and grandfathers would be rolling over in their grave for whatever tradition, you think is your culture because it was probably raped and pillaged into you over generations after generations. And the culture changes. So that's why when people are like, that's not my culture. It's like cultures and ever changing thing to me. - Right. - Always. It's like, no, it's just one college. It's humans. - Yeah, I don't think Greek culture is a DNA. I think, yeah, there's something to be proud of if you come from that tradition. But I don't think it's just this static, defined thing. And it's been proven. I mean, look, wherever Greek culture goes, - Sure. - Wherever Greek culture goes, it makes a place first. That you can't, that you can. People always say, oh, the Greeks are gone. Dude, the Greeks have never left. The Greeks, they're always here. Because Rome was Greek, you know, Europe is Greek. All the Greek ideas that come from those ancient Greek thinkers have traveled into other cultures. - Being gay is Greek. So now, the Odyssey is this Greek, yes, it's a Greek play. But much like the Greek thinkers, it's now in America thousands of years later. And we happen to have a little bit more of a multicultural society. By the way, much like Rome had. - Right, yeah. So it's like, you become Rome and not because of your DNA. You become Roman because you accept certain cultural things. You become a citizen of Rome. And you accepted certain things and you abided by a certain culture. - Right. - And if everything just stuck to like a race, like the Jews, you're going to get some points. - Just what it is. - You're going to get some points. - People at certain point, because you're going, what is the secret thing that you all allow other people into? - So now here's the thing, what it is, the poem has 24 books and can be divided into three major parts. The situation in Ithaca is the first part. - He had a situation with the mother in Ithaca. So Odysseus, he's missing for 20 years. He was 10 years finding out Troy, which that movie, you know, Troy was a Brad Pitt. 10 years trying to get home. So the kid's gone for 20 years, he's got a wife. Penelope was being played by Anne Hathaway. She's surrounded by arrogant suitors trying to marry her and seize the kingdom. Then they have a son, Telomakis, grows up without a dad. And everyone's assumes Odysseus is dead. The goddess Athena secretly helps Telomakis search for information about his father. - Yeah. So this is a story about coming him in Philly, and coming him. And it's a story about a guy who has to make his way home with all these challenges and all these temptations. And it's also a story about his wife, Penelope, who could also have taken an easier route, assumed he was dead, and married one of these suitors for her own safety, for her own protection. And she manages to keep Ithaca afloat, ruling it alone with all these competing dudes who are trying to tear it down. So these two people reunite and take the road less traveled, but they both choose loyalty and faith in each other. Like she has no idea he's alive, but she continues to believe he's going to come. He, I think for a couple of years, starts banging a god who promises him. - Yes. - They had a year. - They had a child together. - Yeah, immortality, constant joy, endless sex, but what he realizes is that gets boring and it has no meaning. So paradise in some way becomes a type of hell because there's no changes, no story. There's no, most of all, meaning. So he chooses his story and his life with meaning, which is ruler of Ithaca to return him. - So then we go, Jessica, you scroll up a little bit. So then we go to Odysseus' journey, this is part two. The legendary adventures people always talk about, the Sassone, C-I-C-O-N-E-S, I like the Chaconis. - Chaconis. - Yeah. - Right after Troy, Odysseus and his men raid a city called Ismaris. They get greedy, stay too long in our town. The early lesson here pride and excess get people killed then the lotus eaters I've heard of this one on another island inhabitants eat lotus plants that make people forget their homes and ambitions Symbolically escapism addiction losing purpose Odysseus drags his men back to the ships by force because these guys Forgot all about their good lives the lotus eaters I that's what I call the lovely ladies at what's garden Then we got Cyclops polyfamous this is yani. Yeah one of the most famous episodes Odysseus and his men get trapped in the cave of the Cyclops the son of Poseidon so a lot of people don't know Poseidon How the kid his name was Cyclops Odysseus gets him drunk and says his name is nobody very smart After binding the Cyclops binding the Cyclops. Yep, because he says when the Cyclops start screaming Who's you know, there's other Cyclops and they're saying who's hurting you who's hurting you to the Cyclops? Got his out because he got his eyes stabbed what Odysseus did is they got him real drunk and he stabbed him in his one eye So the guys blind and because he said his name was nobody he's just screaming nobody is hurting me Nobody is hurting you so the Cyclops the other Cyclops just leave because they're like, okay, he's fine So then Odysseus escapes tied beneath sheep because what happened was is the Cyclops Couldn't you know the the reason why they they stabbed the Cyclops in the eye that he had moved this huge boulder Over the exit to their cave to Odysseus is men in his cave So they needed a way to get out even though the Cyclops they couldn't kill the Cyclops They just had to blind them and then he was feeling Cyclops was feeling the sheep as they left the cave because he needed to let a sheep out the next morning So he opened the cave and this and the Odysseus is men tied themselves to the bottom of the sheep So he would feel them and say all that's his sheep, but it was really a guy. Yeah, so but he made a fatal mistake there He brags and reveals his real name. Yeah, he's sailing away and then Poseidon Becomes his divine enemy because that was his son and this is where the 10 years to get home is gonna come in a play because he just makes this Makes the seas best so that this is why this is the ancient Greeks now This is the very interesting part the ancient Greeks sort of anthropomorphized and personified Human psychology and the human experience and and let me explain because I find this very interesting So this whole journey is about being witty being smart, but then there's all these warnings about like hey bragging being you know To arrogant or making these mistakes that he learns along the way that like it's good So the Greeks believed it's good to be smart But you have to be what they called humble you can't have what the Greek word hubris when you have hubris It's a big flaw right so Odysseus Odysseus displays these moments of hubris that actually Turn these very smart tactics into more misery and that's why it takes so long to get home And he learns these lessons from these mistakes that he makes now. This is what I find interesting the Greek gods I never really understood the Greek gods till recently the Greek gods what the Greeks understood was that people worship Things yes, right? So people may not think they're worshipping something, but they're worshipping something So if you come across a guy who loves booze? Who loves chaos loves getting wild? They would they would go that guy worships Dionysus So they just personified smart force right the force the motivation the thing that the person loved the Greeks basically said this We're built to we're always going to be worshipping something Like humans worship things. So you're either worshipping worshipping comfort pride, right? Comfort Drugs lost so they took all these things food and they personified them into gods because they recognize that these were big forces That were out there that dictated the way people smart behaved and then some of the gods were just natural and forces in nature that they couldn't control like so Poseidon if you lived in an island That was very dependent on the sea you would worship Poseidon because you'd be trying to get an enough a lot of fish or if you felt like the Wave was good, you know, you want to be protected at sea you'd so it was also gods that represented powerful things that were beyond Human control right so but what was very interesting about the Greeks was that they it was like psychology Mast as sort of theology and it made me think like yeah the Greeks were kind of smart in the sense that Everyone like eat just to make it modern day right you have your atheists now you got your You got your theists you got whatever right? So an atheist goes. I don't believe in religion you go really Right, you look at Ricky Gervais you go. What are you worshipping really right something you're worshipping your own smarts You're worshipping your own pride right you're I'm smarter than these idiots I'm I know more than them look at these ridiculous tails. It's so stupid. I love Ricky Gervais. Yeah, yeah, but I'm just saying Yeah, I love them too, but it's there's I get my own intellect. He's worshipping Hit the pride in himself. We're all gonna worship something. We're all gonna worship something Yeah, and then you go it's somebody else who's like Mainly routine or like whatever it is you go you worship comfort. So there's always a worship going on Right, so and the Greeks just personified does it someone who loves to get drunk someone who likes to fuck You're like you're you're giving in to some powerful energy that you're worshipping whether you admit it or not or you're conscious Right or not of it. There's some powerful force that's driving you towards Laying yourself at the author of something. Right. So that's very smart the way that they they handle that make it uh, you know Really cool to see so yeah like Athena. Oh, it's got them so wisdom. So it's some guy who's sitting there gone I you know, I I would need to figure this out. It's like you're worshipping at the temple of right of Athena All right, so let's go here. So Aphrodite was a piece piece. Yeah, so if you go back. Okay, so then so we're now we're traveling We're through this, you know, we're after after Odysseus gets Announces himself to the cyclops and does that kind of tubers thing Things start to get dark from here. Okay, cuz then we get to aolus and the bag of winds sounds like a fart His crew thinks it's treasure and they open they open up this bag Containing these dangerous winds that they thought was treasure and it blows them all the way back across the sea The theme here is human stupidity ruins victory at the last second Then we have the less trigonians these are cannibal giants that destroy almost the entire fleet only Odysseus his own ship survives the tone gets really really dark from here Then we get to circuit the witch circa. She transforms Odysseus's men into pigs with help from Hermes Odysseus resist her magic They eventually become lovers and stay in the island for a year Cirque later helps him continue his journey home. So this is the goddess that Odyssey Odysseus banged. Yeah, it's the is a is Cirque who looks like a piece in this painting Yeah, and then yeah, and then He decides he decides uh see the underworld after that. Yeah, he's he resists her magic. Yeah, he resists her magic somehow um Then uh they go to the journey to hell in uh the underworld He travels to the land of the dead and meets fallen warriors his dead mother the spirits and he learns suffering awaits him All humans die glory means little in death the ghost of Achilles aka Ellie Page Says which is why it is wild said he'd rather be a living peasant than king Of the dead the line changes the heroic values of Greek mythology entirely. That is very interesting Mm-hmm. So he's they're basically saying the afterlife ain't what you think it is well because that's the thing. Yeah, it's basically saying um Like the gods Get bored that and so the gods live through us a lot because when you're immortal right and this was a Greek idea But it's also kind of like an interesting theological idea like if you believe in Platonic realm or uh, you know An immortal realm or immortal energy or a consciousness beyond us right you'd say What's the one weakness to that the one weakness would always be that there's no meaning you have no struggle Right you have you get bored you you can't experience yourself you can't right uh you can't get the tingle You can't get the tingle you can't get that tingle which make no mistake I live for a little thing called the tingle which brings us to the sirens So this is your favorite so the sirens or is he like to call him Chinese honey pot? It's just what it is the sirens sing irresistible songs that lure sailors to their death They want it they hear these songs and they want to bang these girls out. Yeah sirens. I mean for me I just call them the latinas. I call them love you long time I can go on but these just love you long time pussy pussy pussy love you long time So Odysseus wants to hear them without dying So he plugs his cruise ears with earwax and then he ties himself to the mass of the ship And they go through this straight of where the sirens are And it becomes a symbol for resisting temptation through restraint what Odysseus didn't know though is the sirens If you if if anybody got through and resisted them then they have to kill themselves. Yeah That's what it is. So all the sirens kill themselves after that What we wanted to say to Odysseus at this time is there's an easier way it's called just get yourself in the program It's just what it is. That's the only way to resist is the program. Get yourself in the program. Get yourself in the group tax So then he gets through that then we have Silla and Carbidius Odysseus must sail between Silia, which is a six-headed monster and Carbidius, which is a giant whirlpool He chooses the less chooses the lesser evil and sacrifice is some meant to save the ship sometimes you got to sacrifice some people Sometimes you got to do a little thing called saving private rions Just what it is you got to sacrifice some people and you know you just whatever Yeah, what is you get in the whirlpool or you get eaten by the monster, but listen guy I got to go I mean I'm Odyssey who the hell are you and you're yeah, so basically the lesson here is sometimes leadership Means you got to you got to have some losses or some unavoidable losses. You got to choose basically the only way out is It's what it is. Yeah, so then the next thing is we have the cattle of Helios despite warnings Odysseus starving crew They told them on healers you cannot touch these cows He goes my guys are not gonna touch the cows don't worry, but the crew starving so they kill the sacrifice cattle belonging to the Sun God Helios and they start to eat them So then Zeus gets pissed and destroys their ship Odysseus is now the soul Survivor everybody's dead, but my man Odysseus So then they go to Calypso which sounds like a sandals resort in Jamaica And they keep Odysseus trapped on the island for years and they offer him Emortality if he stays but he refuses the key idea of being being even eternal pleasure Cannot replace home and human connection which I think it's true. Well, that's where he realizes like I said That the paradise is sort of a hell because there's no meaning, right? And so that's when he realizes I want to be audacious. I got to get back to my girl So then the third and final part is the return to Ithaca where he was setting out to go 20 years ago with Athena's help Odysseus finally returns home disguised as a beggar He tests who is loyal he reconnects with his son Tadamakis and he plans revenge Penelope creates a contest who can string Odysseus is massive bow None of the suitors can do it Odysseus reveals himself and massacres the suitors in one of the most violent scenes in Greek mythology and order is restored Yeah, he kills all the guys that were vying for that Penelope pussy, right? And he he returns home. She hugs him. She grabs she waited 20 years for this guy Right, so then they say that Odysseus Unlike the other mythic heroes who rely mainly on strength Odysseus survives through intelligence Deception and adaptability as the first Jewish man. I mean first modern man It's the first modern man and he's complicated. He's heroic manipulative traumatized prideful Yeah, he's got a little PTSD from the war trauma many modern scholars read the Odyssey as a story about returning home after war Odysseus often feels emotionally distant and paranoid. He can't really get you know his life kind of falls apart And then the monsters they reflect these distorted versions of the reality cyclops law of brutality Lotus eaters passive escapism suitors corruption within civilization itself only things still happening today Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a real psychological tale It's a tale about the human experience. It's a tale about temptation. It's a tale about psychology It's a tale about meaning. Right. It's a tale about Loyalty it's a tale about Realism versus idealism. Right. It's a real What's also to like guide? It's a guy with relationships because it's like, you know What does home mean? And it's also everybody always says like if you've picked the right relationship like it's gonna be really really hard But you get the benefits at the end of your life, right? Like you know, like yeah, you want to run in different posts right now It's easy these easy temptations these immediate immediate gratifications But if you delay the gratification, that's when you really get the true pleasure That's what they say and it's a it's a story about ego how it can lead you a stray It's a story about Averis is a story about I think mostly Self-discovery right so he goes through all these trials He goes through all these temptations. He goes through all these mistakes and he realizes who he is and he chooses who he is Right because there was moments throughout it where he could have got off the course of who he was right He could have become a god a god's plaything and experienced eternal Sex and love and never die and never get old and but that what he essentially that wasn't him Now what not a me babe. So it's not me. He realizes. This is me babe, right and me is with Penelope babe And me is being home in Ithaca and ruling over this small little place, right and All these things that I thought maybe I wanted I didn't want because it's not me babe. It's what you know Sorry, it ain't me babe. Is that Sharon Sonny? Yes, and then they got the worst and I'm gonna go see this movie when it comes And I'm actually this is the first move I'm looking forward to in a long time since Barbie and this movie and make absolutely no mistake I'm gonna try to go to a showing where it's just mean the theater because I'm absolutely gonna move my monkey to Elliot page Yeah, now can we just end this episode by looking at a few of the trailers? People have been making with Elliot page and then of course we'll read out the members of the newest members of the patreon But I would like to see some of these trails. Yeah, I these are the trails of the movie. I but listen the internet when I mean the internet There's people on the internet who are very very funny like if you're gonna if you're gonna do it be funny be funny Yeah, just don't repeat shit or be funny So this is like I feel bad for Elliot page in a way because it's gonna hurt her feelings This is she's just I don't think he cares anymore. I don't think he cares at all Do you can't just trace, but they're doing all these and they're putting Elliot page. So this isn't real. No, of course is that real So just and everyone she just gets absolutely beat the shit because they're she's in a male role. Yeah So it's just there's tons of them where she now look do the Troy one. This is funny. Yeah, this one the second one Yeah, yeah, yeah, watch this so this is this was with Brad Pitt. You remember this is Troy. Yeah, so here comes It's just so brutal Show it was where it like they act where she has no shirt out and they have the scars under I mean, it's brutal She can't open the jar. Yeah, it's just my name. They just there she is. Yeah, it's just yeah, it's just unfortunately I mean really ripped though. Yeah, I mean rip but the scars under the tits. Yeah, so they made there's a few of them where she has no shirt on They just you can see the scars now it does the actual trailer for the movie look good though I don't I haven't seen the actual trailer Nick. Have you seen the trailer for the movie? You haven't seen it. You're not in because you're a movie guy. You don't like this stuff. I haven't seen it So this is exciting. Can we watch this on without getting dinged on YouTube? Is that all right? Yeah, just let's not do it with so we don't get Digged we'll watch it after watch on the patreon. I'd like to say on the patreon. Well, we could get well, we can't get Digged on the patreon. Yeah, it's it's actually now just quickly Jesse do you think this was part of the plan? It's an interesting theory. I don't you know, I respect Christopher Nolan as an artist like he's like why would he do that? He's made so many good movies like he doesn't need to do that right as like a propaganda stunt to cast Yeah, you think he did although it is kind of suspicious. Why would he cast her as Achilles? You know right so many fucking like so many actors bad ass actors that he could've kept you know, yeah I mean who knows these days, but I mean it could just be a family friend thing like it could be like I my daughter's friends with him The movie's gonna be huge. Oh, dude. It's gonna crush him about. I've never had no doubt that we're talking about it because of that Yeah, like the cat. Everyone is talking. It's it's a big propaganda push and movies are in trouble So maybe maybe it's interesting tell us what you think in the comment section Yeah, comment like subscribe love to hear your comment of course at the end of every episode We read out the newest members of the patreon go to patreon.com such history Hyenas to get involved This is probably our favorite part of the show and we have a lot of fun over at patreon We're gonna have a lot of fun over there today because I have one hour of sleep and I'm ready to just let loose So leading off the list lifeguard on duty at Epstein Island put them on the list really that is so inventive Interesting. Yeah, that is very inventive. So we might have a we might not this is the bronjane. Okay, I came out early could win Crotch crop circles Drexler, okay strong out the gate know what asked then we got Jeffrey like his jizz lanes waxed well Pretty good. I'm gonna I'm gonna Drexler it Okay Fernandez Ferdinand birthless in Barsoch Abaniy and then we got Jesus is Ryan and hates Frisbee's Just wait a second. That's wait a second. It's really funny He put it right now Tony. That's for the end of the year is really Jesus is real and hates Frisbee's very good Tristan Huckstable Then we got Kakao Chrissie's Club Oh Kakao Kakao that's what they got they got I love how they get you. Yeah, Tony. That's for the end of the year Cuz he was he come on my tummy next to my mummy So he's laying with his mom. Yeah, yeah Okay, we just can't do that I can't do it. Yeah, then we got Justin make no mistake I'm a real black kid, but I'm using more than one name Cummings Drexler drag sir strong list then we got J baby 2 trail Ronnie wrong days Drexler Ronnie wrong day. That's big. Yeah, what is the Drexler? Yeah, yeah Drexler Then we got Jamal the Dallas Maverie Stevenson Then we got need a quick hh hiatus, so we can start the third Reich and then we got god gave Helen Keller a working fume detector Ended by this is a big these have got put Tony for all these Katelyn Jenner's driving instructor Oh Jesus Drexler good one then we got she killed the guy. Yeah, then we got drove through the hood and my car got a couple of things drove through again And now a couple of things got my car Glad 14 Why did this is just this is a whole this is a walked into one list times that happened Yeah, and these are all good though and the thing is we don't choose to list the list choose list chooses us So Tony you got your work cut out for you then we got white guy named John Henry wish I was lee Roy from waist down Got it tiger Maximus Ian O'Brien Ryan, Mr. AZT, Bally Femus, and Odysseus Puss. - Wow, that's crazy that we're talking about the-- - Well, it's the hugeest thing right now. Everyone's talking about it. - Yeah, it's like the hugeest thing on the internet. - Bally Femus and Odysseus Puss, Charlie Azad, Evan Lee. I like my coffee, Lee Roy, and my T. Roy Lee. - What am I missing there, Roy Lee? - Like coffee, Lee Roy, and then, 'cause it's coffee black, and then my T. Roy Lee, because Asian T, Roy Lee. - Got it, got it. - Not bad. - Yeah, it's catchy. - Reaper of Mars, Ricardo. Not a muzzle, but I will put my face in her rug. To decent one. - Decent. - I chicken finger, yeah, chicken finger. Larry Nassar's receptionist talking about mental gymnastics. Oh, Larry Nassar's receptionist talk about mental gymnastics. Got it. - Talk about mental gymnastics. - Yeah, like, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Drive for it, he went for it. - Luis Fernando Martinez Leone. - Wow. - That's what it is. That's what you call, that's what you call ice velcro. - It's what it is. Nick went peowing on that one. - Yeah. - Then we got Bong hits from the, (laughing) - Jesus Christ. - Oh, black one. - Christ. - Jesus. - This is a very, walked into one list. - On this episode, Chrissy talks to Josephine's trainer on which one of his very old closets he should come out of. (laughing) - Luis Fernando Martinez. - Sof, then we got, my girl uses my nuts as a scratch and sniff, chicken finger. Then we got AOC, please fist my ass hole until I'm paralyzed. (laughing) - Just what it is. - I'm gonna put it by the list. - Why not? - Just 'cause it's so funny. - Yeah, it's just very funny. - It's time to criminalize being a wigger, okay? Small Scrabble Fingers, 8K Squeak Squad Employees Sandra Day. - Okay. - Western Hemi Muzzy with a Harry Hommas hose. (laughing) - Hommas hose is funny. - Hommas hose, you're not winning, but welcome to the lexicon. - I like Hommas Canter. - Yeah, Hommas hose, yeah, like it. Sam Wise, Andrea, Uncle Russell. (laughing) - Jesus Christ, you can't disparage your family. - You can't do it. - Not the demo. Then we got Timmy Riley, Blake Weinstein. Then we got Portnoy, takes one bite so he can sell the rest. - Oh. - Way song she ain't. - I don't get it. - He's a Jew. - He's a Jew. - Oh, he takes good bites and he can sell the rest. Yeah, I got it. (laughing) - Can Yannis' wife tell Chrissy to stop yawning on the pod? - I don't get it. - Appliance Dodger, Amin Kampur. Then we got Shakespeare, presents George. (laughing) Frenzy, okay. - Glad for a day. - Can you read that again? - Shakespeare presents all frenzy. - I don't get it. - It's just, yeah. Ashley Miller, Lane 23, Billy, redistributing Deva Cups at AOC's Fumeshelter for Lost Squeaks and Badger Ginger Snaps. - Very, okay, went for a lot. - In the ass tonight by $3 Bill Collins. - Put 'em on a list. - Okay. - Put 'em on a list. (laughing) - Yes, tonight. - Put 'em in a contender. - Yeah. - In the, yeah. - Yeah, it's very funny. - Put it in the air tonight. Yeah, put 'em on a list. - Very, very funny. - Yeah. - Adam Brobatt. - Sunju's Art of More. - Okay. - Hmm. - Chris. - Another Jewish joke. - Yeah, what is it? - Sunsu Art of More. Sunju Art of More. - Me too. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Okay. Babe, the glue-coast monitor says my sugar is low. So put your pump in and fill my tank up. - Okay. - Ace Hawk, Daniel Stilini, Bushlight and Fireball. - Gallic Wolfgang, Miles M, Brandon C, Hold On, pause the podcast. I just shit my pants. - Okay. - Alicia, Ben Bratton, scared of Michael Bomber's last spread, but want to drown in seven inches? - Yeah, the lake, yeah. - Okay. - Michael Bomber. - Michael Bomber on its own, might've won. - Michael Bomber. - Just Michael Bomber. - Yeah, just Michael Bomber. - Yeah, just Michael Bomber's very funny. Ryan Joe, Danny Cardozo, my ALS makes for a challenging plank, homing glue garrig, okay? - We're putting it up, what do we do? - Put it on the list. - Yeah, I mean, if they really have ALS, I mean they're making the best of me. - Yeah, but you know we're hypocrites, 'cause we're very sensitive about racial stuff, but then like, the disabled spare game, I mean, what are we supposed to do here? - If the kid has ALS, then we don't know. - Yeah, that's what's got ALS. - That's what we're putting on, listen, maybe the kid has ALS, then we're talking about-- - I mean, 'cause you know what, technically that's one of the best ones of all time. - Yeah. - Leroy's boneless jungle ham, aka watermelon. - Okay. - Oh, last one being Christ. - Hey, I don't know. - I mean, this, Jesus Christ. Tony, just put this whole list on the end of the year. - At the end of the, Jesus Christ. - Just, he's cracking up hard. - Andrew Falconer, my Tourette's flares up in East New York, aka Leroy Ticks. (laughing) - Way song she ain't. - Jesus, whole list. - Okay. - Is for the fucking walk in a one. - Crouching Tiger, Hidden Juden, aka the Diary of Chan, Frank. (laughing) - Vlad 14. (laughing) - Crouching Tiger, Hidden Juden. - Guys, what do you want to do? - I mean, we gotta put it on the end of the year. - Crouching Tiger, Hidden Juden, the Diary of Chan. - Frank, yeah. - I mean, it deserves to be on the list. - So then put it on the list. But it's also walked into one. Put it on the list. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Juden is very funny. - Kyle Ramos, Matthew Gornirno, Preston, Brett Glockowski, Twerk Wind and Fire. - Chicken finger. - Yeah. - Royal Money House, call it a sand castle. Matt Ryan Menalski, Jeff Simpson. Will peptides fix my crooked piece? - Chicken finger. Deep throat cockboat, Lake Monkey, sick of all the Somali pirates. Move to the keys and all I got was a peptide induced domestic violence charge. - Shouldn't hit women, guy. - Yeah. Jacob Ponce, Jason Locke, Dakota Wiggins, Asian Pirate, I don't steal treasure, I fry plain. (laughing) - End of the year. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Then we got Carnal George Pell, Marcus Dylan, Sebastian Miles and Adam Moreno. - Welcome all those other bicep. Want you to know if you just give your name, you're straight to the back, you're here for the business and we appreciate you just as much. - We just as much. Okay, so here's the list. - Yeah. - Lifeguard on duty at Epstein's Island. We're gonna direct through that right off the back. So we know that. - Yeah. - Then we got AOC, please fist my ass hole until I'm paralyzed. - I wanna keep that around for the funny factor. - Keep it around, then we got in the ass tonight by $3 Bill Collins. - Keep it around. - Okay, and then we have crouching tiger, hidden Juden, AK, the diary of Chan Frank. - Oh, and we also have my AOS makes for a challenging Wank homing glue Gary. - Keep that around. We got four. - Chan Frank, keep around as well. - Yes. - Okay. - Yes. - Okay. - So it's between AOC, please fist my ass hole until I'm paralyzed. In the ass tonight by $3 Bill Collins, my AOS makes for a challenging Wank homing glue Gary. We're crouching tiger, hidden Juden, AK, the diary of Chan Frank. - All four of these speak to me. All four of these speak to me. - Okay. - Well, this is tough and we're going to have to, this is going to have to be made as a group. Okay, so there's no clear winner here. So for me, because it caught me late, I like in the ass tonight by $3 Bill Collins. I think a $3 Bill one is really, really hard to get, and that's one in the ass tonight is very funny. - Very funny. - In the ass tonight by Phil Collins, what of one? - Yes. - So that's my pick, yeah. Okay. - Yeah, I like in the ass tonight, I could hear the soundtrack going, but I'm going with a glue Gary. - Glue Gary, yes, go wrong one. - Yeah, I like Chan Frank. I'm ass tonight also. - Okay. - Whoa, whoa, so it's down to me, whoa. So we got, we have a vote. We have two votes for in the ass tonight. - No, no, no, he went, - Yes tonight and Chan Frank both. - We have to pick one. - Yeah. - Ass. - In the ass tonight. - Got two votes, so it goes up to, still down to me. - Still down to you, because he didn't pick that one. He picked glue Gary. - Glue Gary. - So if you pick in the ass tonight, there's a three different ones. - Well, in the ass tonight has two votes. If you gave it a third vote, it wins. If you give glue Gary, it's both time tied. - We're tied. - And we gotta go to the people. - Can you read them one more time? - Okay. - AOC, please fist my ass hole until I'm paralyzed. - Okay, we're gonna drags to that. - Okay. - Yeah. - Keeping it around. - My ALS makes for a challenging win. Call me Glue Gary. Or crouching tiger, hidden Juden. AK, the diary of Chan Frank. (laughing) - All right, I'm gonna fuck this up. I'm going with, who'd you pick? - Glue Gary. - I'm going with Glue Gary. - Okay. - So we're tied. - So we have a tie? - Yeah. - Now we're good, that's the best one. - The fans, you have to go to patreon.com/historyhienas. Is it my ALS makes for a challenging win. Call me Glue Gary. Or in the ass tonight by $3 Bill Collins. Those are the contenders. Now, people have been saying, is there a way to put a poll up? - Can we trick here? - Can we do that? - Is there a way? - There's gotta be a way. - I guess we-- - Is there a way on Patreon to do that? - Or we could just make a separate post. I guess everyone's both there. - No, but they're saying there's a poll way to do a poll. But if the separate post is that because they say it then it gets lost in the comments and the messages. So let's think of a cleaner way to do it. - We'll figure it out. We'll do a poll. I think there's a way to do a poll. - Okay, yeah. patreon.com/historyhienas. Go over there right now. We got another episode.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The host, Chris Stefano (Chrissy), reflects on personal struggles including a severe shoulder injury (labral tear) and emotional fatigue, highlighting the physical and mental toll of daily life.
  2. Comedians are portrayed as keen observers, noting subtle details in people’s appearances, such as clothing or demeanor, which reflects a deep, almost feminine attentiveness to social cues.
  3. A humorous anecdote about a baseball game at Citi Field reveals how personal grievances (family treatment by Yankees) shift loyalty, showing how emotional connections override team allegiances.
  4. The Greeks’ ritual of *pharmakos* (scapegoat) is discussed as a historical example of marginalizing the vulnerable during crises, revealing a lack of empathy in ancient Greek society.
  5. The *Odyssey* is analyzed as a story of resilience, hubris, and human psychology, emphasizing that Greek mythology personified human emotions and desires (e.g., pride, comfort, lust) as gods.
  6. The narrative critiques cultural appropriation and modern debates over representation (e.g., Lupita Nyong’o in *Odyssey*), arguing that cultures evolve and are not static, and that identity is shaped by shared traditions.
  7. The host emphasizes personal growth, rejecting parental approval and embracing autonomy, while celebrating Greek cultural influence on modern Western thought.
  8. A satirical tone is maintained throughout, blending self-deprecation, absurdity, and commentary on societal issues like racism, religion, and media.

Summary:

In this episode of *History High Heinous*, Chris Stefano (Chrissy) blends personal storytelling with cultural commentary, exploring themes of identity, resilience, and human psychology. He recounts a painful shoulder injury, reflecting on how physical and emotional fatigue shape his daily life, while emphasizing his sharp observational skills—traits he compares to those of a woman. A key anecdote about a baseball game at Citi Field reveals how personal experiences, like being mistreated by the Yankees, can shift loyalty and highlight the emotional complexity behind team allegiances.

The episode delves into ancient Greek culture, particularly the *Odyssey*, interpreting it not just as a mythological tale but as a mirror of human behavior, where hubris, temptation, and emotional struggle are central. The Greeks' scapegoat ritual (*pharmakos*) illustrates their lack of empathy, while their personification of emotions (like pride or lust) as gods reveals a sophisticated understanding of psychology. The discussion extends to modern debates over cultural representation, such as Lupita Nyong’o’s casting in a Greek-themed film, arguing that cultures evolve and are not fixed.

Chrissy also reflects on personal growth, rejecting parental approval and embracing autonomy. Ultimately, the episode blends humor, self-awareness, and deep cultural insight, showing how ancient Greek wisdom continues to influence modern life—especially in areas like ethics, identity, and the human struggle for meaning.

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Pharmacos was a scapegoat ritual in ancient Greece where marginalized or ugly people were humiliated or killed during times of crisis like famine or plague, symbolizing the purification of the community.

The journey teaches that wisdom and cunning are valuable, but hubris—excessive pride or arrogance—leads to disaster, emphasizing the importance of humility and self-awareness.

The Greeks personified human emotions and desires as gods, showing that people worship powerful forces like pride, comfort, or chaos, which shaped their behavior and worldview.

Odysseus reveals his true identity to the Cyclops, who is Poseidon’s son. This act of hubris makes Poseidon his divine enemy, causing him to sabotage Odysseus’s journey home.

The underworld reveals that human suffering and mortality are real, challenging the idea of glory and heroism and showing that life has more meaning than eternal immortality.

The show highlights how modern interpretations, like casting diverse actors in ancient roles, spark debate, noting that ancient stories were shaped by evolving cultural values and traditions.

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