The Nikola Tesla Theory that History Books Try to Hide... | Matt LaCroix

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Now it's quite exciting. What makes it in a different place now? Well, when you go to these locations, actually get a chance to investigate them, see them. You see a lot of things that you've never seen before. When you're looking online, you only have so much in front of you. Who's taking pictures of this? Who's taking video of this? But what about the things that didn't get photographed or you didn't see? Things that you're there in person. Even just being there gives you a different experience of those locations. And for me, being there with a team of experts, you know, I just got back from Turkey on my second trip in early October with Dr. Robert Schock. Oh, you went with him? Famous geologist. And we went with an archaeologist named Hans Orheim out of Sweden. We got a chance to go and scout out some of the locations that they need to see as well before we do filming this year that we're going to be going and doing a whole team of experts. He's going to be going with me to film a lot of sites, including underwater, under Lake Vaughan. Who's doing the underwater shots? Well, we have a team of underwater divers that are going to be coming. And one of the things I can bring up is that the person who discovered the underwater ruins in 2017, and that's a great story I can tell. Please. Okay, well, his name is Tossin Salen, and he is a pretty famous underwater photographer and videographer. And tell people, just for people who haven't heard. I haven't heard you in the past on this show. You've talked about Lake Vaughan, but just give them a layout of where this is in Turkey and what the significance is. A lot of the ancient world has these hot spots that people talk about, right? Everyone's talking about Quebec-le-Tepé. Quebec-le-Tepé over and over again, right? Terre-Haine-Tepé. But they're not talking about a lot of these newer places because they haven't hit the mainstream. It's not something that most people really know about, and the reason is that they're too new. For instance, the underwater Lake Vaughan discoveries that I'm referring to. That wasn't found until 2017. And so we're talking about very, very new discoveries that the world has not grasped yet. And the reason is that archaeologists have mislabeled them from, in my opinion, from the wrong time period. Which has created a scenario where people are like, oh, well, that's not that interesting. It's from this time period when really what we're looking at are places that are equally, if not older, than Quebec-le-Tepé, in my opinion. What are the archaeologists? What are the archaeologists labeling on a time period scale Lake Vaughan, and what do you think it actually is? So the Lake Vaughan region was part of what's called the Urartian civilization that archaeologists are crediting for. And I obviously agree that was a major civilization in that region. That was around 2800 BC, okay? So about 3,000 years ago. There was a civilization there that was during the same time as the Neo-Assyrian civilizations further south in ancient Mesopotamia, right? Ashurbanipal, Sennacherib, we've talked about them before. There was a competition going on over empires fighting during that time period, and they were being invaded constantly, and they were a war civilization. Now that is, that group, the Urartians, is what archaeologists believe built all of these sites around not only Lake Vaughan, but further east into Armenia and other locations. And we can talk about why they believe that and what we know we're getting into. But the. What really broke this open is that, getting back to what I was just referring to, Lake Vaughan in eastern Turkey, there's a. It's one of the. By the way, it's one of the largest and deepest lakes on Earth. Yes. It's over 1,500 feet deep. That's crazy. It's unbelievable, right? I mean, Baikal in Siberia is the deepest, but this on a scale of others, it's unbelievable. I mean, it's deeper than most of the Great Lakes. It's a very, very deep lake. And it has a very unique environment. It's what's known as a. Soda lake, an alkaline lake. And this actually can tie into a lot of the exciting news that we're going to get into, is because it's a soda lake, it creates an environment that preserves things underwater. And it has these massive type of structures from the salt formations that have created these incredible, almost like dreamlike environments of these towers underwater. What's the science there? Why does that preserve it? My head would immediately think that it would do the opposite. But why does it not? If you get a lake that has river outlets, you get a current flowing through it. You're going to get moving water. You're going to get moving sediments. You're going to get an environment underwater that is more volatile. Okay? 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And that is what we're finding in Lake Vaughan. It's probably, it's the best example in the world of a soda alkaline lake. There's no better example than that. And because of that, it's created this preservation underwater. Again, as I say, these giant towers of basically alkaline, like, calcified environments that have formed because of the amount of sodium. There's only one fish that lives in the entire lake. It's called a pearl mullet. They only have one fish? One fish lives in the entire lake. There's nothing else. There's no other life? There is. There's some small little shrimp-like creatures and some types of insects. But there's no other fish that live in the entire lake. It's a very unusual type of scenario. And that's what leads to what I'm about to tell you is that this wasn't even an archaeologist. There's a famous videographer, underwater photographer, Tawson Salen, who travels all over. Yeah, T-A-H-S-I-N, Tawson, Salen, S-E-Y-L-A-N. And Lake Vaughan. And he, well, he primarily does underwater ocean photography in the Red Sea and off of Egypt and other places around the world. He's actually quite popular, and he's been in a number of different high-level type of documentaries and others. Well, he came to Turkey. Well, he lives in Turkey, but he came to Lake Vaughan because he wanted to photograph. He wanted to photograph the underwater microinvertebrate type of environments underwater and the life. It's a beautiful lake. I mean, Lake Vaughan is surrounded by the Taurus Mountains to the south and this huge mountain volcano to the north called Soufan Mountain that's over 13,000 feet high. Huge volcano. And because it's surrounded by giant mountains and it's this huge kind of crystalline lake, it's beautiful. It's got like blue water because of the salt. The lake literally looks blue. I got a chance to go swim in it. Oh, you did? I was going to ask you that. Yeah. What was that like? I went down with Robert Shock and my girlfriend Jenny and Hans, and we got a chance to swim in it. It's one of the most beautiful lakes I've ever seen, and I've hiked and traveled to a lot of beautiful lakes in the world. But I have to say Lake Vaughan is arguably one of the most beautiful lakes I've ever been to. And there's only one type of fish in it, so it's almost like swimming through a freshwater pond, but it's 1,600 meters deep or whatever. In fact. In fact, there's arguments that they may have never found the true depth of the lake because I was talking to fishermen there and our tour guide. Yeah, who have depth sounded, who have depth sounded the lake. They catch those pearl mullet nets. Yeah, there's tossing, and you can see the underwater stuff. So there's like a lot of them. Yeah, there's a huge, huge schools of them, but it's the only fish in the lake. So you can see like the image of the underwater stuff under Lake Vaughan. That's tossing. Now, how, so tossing's swimming there, and I can see, it looks like he has a light up above that. Do you know like how deep he got for something like this? Well, and that's what we can, that's the big part of what we're going to get into is the depth. That's actually a really big part of this. It's important. So he, tossing is photographing in different parts of the lake, okay? He's checking, he's doing photography of the migrations of the pearl mullets in the spring when they spawn, right? They flood the rivers, and they're like jumping all over. the place. spectacle the pearl mullets are not you know they're not more than a foot long but they're huge schools of them in the lake okay so he's photographing that as a nature documentary but he's also photographing and filming the underwater areas which by the way there's been very little done under lake vaughn it's a very mysterious lake so he's filming off of actamar island and in these different areas and there are a number of different ruins that are known about under lake vaughn but they're shallow well he's diving off of a place called ajijuvez which is in the northern part of lake vaughn in 2017 and you can only dive in the lake for the first like two hours in the morning because once you get into the afternoon the sunlight reflects off of all the salt and you makes it so you can almost not even see underwater so you have this small window where you can actually dive okay so he's diving off of ajijuvez which is right in adjacent to kef kalesi an ancient ancient megalithic site that i talked about yes on some of the other shows and i've subsequently gone to and we can talk about that as well so he's diving off of that and there are ruins down near the edge of the shoreline but there had never been anything done out underwater so he's underwater and he's diving and he gets down to 75 feet underwater 75 feet underwater unbelievably deep area which by the way there's no underwater ruins in the world that are found that depth anywhere in the world yes if you go off of like for instance there are underwater ruins in lake titicaca yeah they're like 20 30 feet at max you're just talking about for lakes though no for in oceans included what about what about the the ruins that are off the coast of no of cuba well that's not okay hold on we'll pause there for a second okay that's not that may exist and there is a lot of evidence that supports that it does exist and there is a lot of evidence that supports that it does exist and there is a lot but we don't have enough evidence yet and i've talked i talked about that last time we were on yeah i'm trying to remember the context because i just had any xt in here we had a we had a long little segment in there where he was going through whether or not that could be true or not so i couldn't remember all the evidence but it's too deep for that those ruins off of of cuba are too deep for an actual diver to go to right there are two thousand feet underwater which means you need a submersible to get down there and look at them now they're that's a whole titanic situation right that's a whole argument in itself of whether or not that's real and i've i've talked about that before on episodes it is very interesting more more exploration is needed to completely confirm that jazz do your balls ever stink yes mine do too you know sometimes you get sweaty and then you got to do stuff the rest of the day you're running around and that stench kind of 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anywhere in the world see i i don't want to make it sound less 75 sometimes i fuck uh feet in meters so sorry if i did that earlier it would be about 23 meters so 75 feet underground or down below is is obviously deep i don't want to make that sound like it's not deep that doesn't sound like we'd ever find like that doesn't seem that deep for the deepest we'd ever find some ancient history artifacts what well think about this for a minute so that the underwater ruins off of alexandria egypt and off of greece they're near the shoreline yes right they're not we've never found any that are a greater depth than that and i'm going to give you some example i'm not saying there has never been ruins that are deeper considering ocean level increases after the younger dryas right you get 400 feet increase in ocean uh ocean levels around the earth i'm sure there were underwater ruins but they were they were never found or they were destroyed to be clear you're saying ruins that doesn't necessarily include like artifacts though no i'm talking about actual substantial ruins of a civilization okay that makes sense because i was going to say like the antikythera mechanism that was found the old 2000 year computer i believe that was found in the mediterranean those things can sink from a shipwreck or that's right okay so we're talking about we're on the same page ruins extensive ruins yes megalithic blocks and that's the other part of this even the ruins that have been found in the world they weren't megalithic so megalithic meaning large finely cut blocks put together like precise like we see in lake fawn area that i've talked about before we see in peru bolivia and egypt highly precise ancient ancient work this not only is the only underwater megaliths in the world but we're talking about ruins anywhere in the world and this guy just stumbled upon it so he was diving off of a ggves and he completely randomly found them what did he think have you talked with him oh i've talked with them he's actually on the team he's on the documentary team i'm working directly with him and he's going to be leading us when we film at the end of june early july to the ruins to go what did he think it was when he first stumbled upon it he just he saw it was the underwater ruins of a castle they called it and he reported it to and i can tell you the story after but he reported it to the uh the institutions and the turkish government and they didn't believe him did he show him the picture and he's like look look at all the pictures and then he basically had it published in different magazines and it got some attention but not nearly enough attention because it was labeled as being like a urartian or a medieval later time period but we're gonna we can get into how not only is that grossly wrong but it actually this could be one of the better examples of dating evidence of anywhere in the world and why is that and what is our evidence for it so 75 feet is is a very very deep depth if it's for the first question you'd have to ask is how could a lake fluctuate by that much this isn't the ocean we're talking about a lake that's a long way from the ocean how could you have depths fluctuate 80 to 100 feet because obviously if it's found at 75 feet underwater they would have to been substantially less for a civilization to build on the edge of it they're not going to build with the waves lapping up against it right that wouldn't make sense they would have to build you know at least a little ways away from the edge of the shoreline but so that would have to mean that the lake was at least 80 if not 100 feet lower when they built it okay now that creates a number of problems it creates a number of problems because when you look at historic lake levels of lake vaughn there is nothing within the last 12 000 years that can account for those lake those the levels of that lake being that low it creates a very interesting scenario where we may have the the next best piece of evidence we have besides the weathering on the sphinx that robert shock had identified which is you know a big part of this because robert shock is on the team yeah and he was well he's always we're going to call him an independent objective researcher on the team who is in investigating these sites i don't want to put him under the category of he already has a predetermined conclusion for this i want to be very clear he's an objective scientist exploring these sites with us that's important yes so it doesn't mean any predetermined hypothesis or conclusions have already been determined we are investigating anomalies and ancient ruins to determine whether or not they may be from a much earlier time period okay got it so tossin is underwater he finds this extremely extensive area of megalithic ruins it's over a kilometer in in area huge whoa this is not just like it's like a town well let me tell you why that's important one of the considerations from geology just are like whoa what if this was a uh a set of ruins on the shoreline that like slid into the lake that's actually a hypothesis but that's been considered if you have a geologic area of instability in the shoreline you could get like a a landslide where it sinks into the lake how far into it was it though like it's over half a mile from the shore now that's not i'm not an expert well no because it's over a kilometer wide you can't you would have to have like a small area sink in you couldn't have like an entire almost a mile you know of to the common sense that seems crazy i agree right so they he so he goes and he he tells the turkish government they don't they at first how could that be possible 75 feet underwater to have extensive extensive megalithic ruins of blocks that are over in in some cases you know over a foot wide these are massive megalithic blocks that are very finely cut and put together so that's the first thing to pay attention to now the second thing is that when you shop kroger 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blocks underwater would never have been able to survive if they were limestone they would get eaten away by the by the acidification or the by the underwater you know by the salt it would never would have been able to survive but they're that's why we believe they're basalt and that creates a whole nother animal itself because it adds in well how were they how were they created you know if were they from what i'm considering is an earlier like an earlier time period is one of the arguments so we haven't been able to take some sort of like sedimentary sample of this and no sampling has been done yet so why not well toss and dove down with he's a photographer yeah he didn't even have an archaeologist i know but this is 2017 it's been eight years yeah nothing's happened since so no one's going down there no we're going to be the first team of experts in the world that has ever gone down to analyze study it and potentially take samples if we get permits we have to if you get permits well does that work well we're going to be we're applying and getting we're working on getting all the permits necessary that shouldn't be an issue we're going to be doing this in a completely scientific way we're not going to disturb anything we're not going to touch anything we're not going to cause any damage to the environment around it we're simply going to be photographing and analyzing and investigating these and looking at them to potentially see that they may be from a completely completely lost time period of human civilization and that because there's such an anomaly again you can't see that anywhere else in the world it gives us a couple really unique type of opportunities the first is that the sediments have been relatively undisturbed so we get it we have a chance to see something that has not been touched that has not really been altered by anything and really get a chance to review it the second thing and we will get into the symbols that are on some of the stones but i want to bring up a really significant part of this that i think is is significant to dating evidence that we don't have so when a lot of people wish be easy enough we could date a lot of these structures around the world you know the argument is that well is there a lost time period of human civilization around the world in which a culture that no longer exists built giant megalithic structures and temples all across the planet that was wiped out during the catastrophes during the last ice age of the younger dryas right which is what like 11 000 11 600 years ago or so and that's the argument that a lot of you call them alternative researchers have postulated and put forth and you know you've talked to others a lot we've talked about it you know robert shock was brought into the sphinx enclosure because john anthony west saw what he believed in other experts had believed was water weathering and not wind erosion right yes and that was one of the arguments put forth that look the sphinx was actually built by an earlier culture before the dynastic egyptians because it's water erosion and egypt hasn't had any rain and that's substantial enough in the last 12 000 years yeah so there's already this position and graham hancock did a great job with his his netflix series season one and two of ancient apocalypse i don't know if you've seen it yet i've seen a lot of season one he did a great job i gave him props for that thank you for laying that foundation down you know randall carlson graham hancock john anthony west robert shock robert bevall there's so many names that i could say props to all of you guys thank you so much for laying such a great foundation down of us exploring what potentially could be a much earlier and sophisticated and lost time period of human history has it hit you yet that someone like you who's been a real student of the game for so many years who wanted to learn more just started with your own curiosity and worked your way into being an expert then now you are potentially sitting here on the precipice of being able to go in with an official team that you're in charge of to do an excavation of sorts on something that could change the way we view a certain part of history in really towards the middle of the earth right there yeah i feel extremely blessed and very very very appreciative that i have been able to do this and able to take a lot of this research and a lot of this passion and that i've done in writing to a completely different level one that's never frankly has never been done we've never had a team of academics and top experts in their field truly go in and investigate these in a scientific objective way to to finally create something where we can say look we have evidence to support that there may this lost human chapter of human civilization is real and that it has been overlooked and has been something that the narrative may needs to strongly consider is that the story of human civilization is more complex and more mysterious than we've been told now what are you when you get down there what are you most looking for like what are the top three-ish type things that you're going to be trying to identify so what we're going to be doing is we are going to be identifying the type of stone that has been used to build these that's a really really big deal um again we it gets back to understanding the most hard scale if you have stone that is of a hardness of six or seven which is basalt it's a type of volcanic stone tools the tools you have available for a civilization and the capabilities of that civilization come in come in they matter they really come into hand because it's not that easy just to create a giant megalithic temple the amount of work and people involved and calculations and everything involved is not simple it's a great undertaking and you have to have a civilization that has reached a certain level to be able to do that it's not it's not easy it's a nomadic tribe of hunter gatherers or primitive kind of warlike people would not be able to create great works of art through stone because it is art it's it's beautiful to create stones that are so tightly fit together that you can't even put a piece of paper between them it's incredible and then carve seamlessly beautiful beautiful motifs and symbols into them even cross-fitting on the stones between them cross-fitting on the stones cutting it some of the some of the that's what this is another fascinating aspect of this is that ionis one of the sites ionis calessi on the banks of lake vaughan has symbols carved between the stone fitting so which is wild to think about if so if you're carving with a chisel and you're like and you're trying to put that in how would you seamlessly carve with razor sharp edges laser almost laser-like cuts seamlessly between two blocks that fit together how would you do that with a chisel with a chisel i don't i don't see the possibility that's the problem is at these sites especially ionis we see this extremely fine andesite basalt stonework that is again beautiful some of those some of arguably the finest some of the finest megaliths in the world in terms of how they're polished and put together and seamless and in that way we we see these that where the where the fittings are where the blocks come together very very precisely there are symbols carved right between that overlaps where the blocks come together in a completely seamless way so when you look at i don't know if alessi can pull something up can you look up ionis calessi for me i can show you an example of this yeah please i was just going to ask curious what this looks like yeah a y a n i s and then calessi k-a-l-e-s-y yeah yeah okay it'll be yeah you'll be able to find it and i'll give you some i just want to give some examples of this as we're talking about it, because I think it really is easily. The one right in the center, right down, right to the left, right there. By the way, that's me on the one in the picture on the right. Have you seen that? - I did not see that. Can we zoom in on that one? - This is a perfect example. Now scroll above the altar and go right into the cross. - Yes. - Go right in there tight. Right in there. - That's the best we got. - Okay. So take a look at these symbols carved in. You can see a griffin on the left. You can see some of the symbols of Haldi and then some of the crosses. - The pine cone type figure. - Right, right. Now look at how the symbols are carved between the blocks fitting together. It's. To do that. - Oh. - And they're so seamless that they don't even. They're not even off fitted. They're not even off by even a. - They're not. It's like perfect, yeah. - By a centimeter. How would you do that with modern tools or ancient tools, I should say? How would you be able to seamlessly cut these symbols out of, by the way, one of the hardest stone on earth? This is what's called andesite. It's even harder than basalt. They're both volcanic, but andesite is a type of metamorphosized volcanic rock that is a seven and a half on the Mohs hardness scale out of 10. One of the hardest stones on earth. Look at how precisely these symbols are carved. And by the way, that is what's called the Sun Cross in the center, which becomes the Knights Templar Cross and the Red Cross we see in the night. We've talked about it in the Vatican and others, which is very peculiar. But that's what I'm talking about is, on the left side, you can see what I think is like an hourglass figure next to the griffin. Those symbols are carved seamlessly into blocks that are fitted together. Now, the only way to do that in my mind is if. And hit back once, you can see a couple other examples. But the only way you could do that is to have the blocks already put together and then carve it. Into them, right? Because if you were to carve two symbols into blocks like that, how would you then fit them together to have them aligned perfectly, right? It would be too hard. It would be too difficult. And so. Yeah, I mean, we can. This picture right here is so like HD, you can see it even better. And look at the griffin on that one block, right? Yeah, the lining is insane. So that's what we're talking about is, number one, how could an iron age. You were our teens were an iron age civilization, which they only had iron age tools available to them. 2800 BC. How would they have been able to cut and create symbols out of that kind of stone, which by the way, we don't even know where some of these quarries. Geologists have identified some of the quarries where these blocks came from. Some of them are over 200 miles away. One of them is speculated to be 400 miles away. Whoa. Because of the type of basalt and anisite, it's insane how we don't even know how they cut, moved them. But then once they put them in place, how could they get seamless symbols and motifs cut out of them? You know what it looks like? People have told me. It looks like almost like cookie cutters. Yes, that's exactly what it looks like. So if you. Like a 3D printer or something, right? If you had something that was. But you stick it right in, whoop, it's like clay or something that comes out. Absolutely. Now that brings up the question of whether or not these rocks were superheated. That's what I was going to ask. Right. So if. But if they do that and they're so massive, like obviously if they're heated at that kind of level, it's like if you touch it, you're going to burn. It's mysterious. If anything, it would be to the point where I don't even know outside of laser type of tools if we could even do this today. With that kind of precision, a stonemason. Like give me an example. There have been stonemasons that have brought into Tiwanaku and Pumapunku and Bolivia. Which also has laser-like cut edges and symbols, just very similar to this. In fact, we're going to talk about a lot of parallels to that today. They've been brought into that and they're like, "I couldn't do this. I don't know any stonemason that could do this by hand." Maybe with some kind of a technology, like some kind of a laser-like technology. But it brings up the question is if we could barely do it or not do it, how could an Iron Age civilization from 2800 years ago. How could an Iron Age civilization from 2800 B.C. do this? And that's really where the question comes in, and I want to. Alessi, can you go back once? I just want to show another example before we move on to get to some other stuff. Okay, right there. Just leave it there for a minute. Now, we've talked about this before, but I want to bring it up one more time. All of that brown dirt you see on top of the andesite. And for people listening, not watching, we're back on the original image we had of all the. Thank you. Of all the same crosses that are carved into this. That is not actually dirt. All of the brown material above the stone is actually eroded mud brick, okay? Mud brick? Mud brick. So the Erartians primarily build out of what's called mud brick, where they would take mud and types of soil material, and they would basically create bricks out of them, let them sit out in the sun, they harden, right? And then they would build with them. And none of that is actually dirt. It's eroded mud brick. Now. If they built 2,800 years ago with the mud brick, and it eroded to that level, how. Imagine those blocks being in that level of being precise still and not eroded. Imagine the difference there, first of all. Oh, yeah. Now, archaeologists claim that this is a building style. Now, and I would agree, it is a style some places around the world. A culture. Or even today, you'll build. You'll see. Roman Greco and other things where they build out of stone, and they have something like. Something more lighter on top, because you need a foundation that is stronger, okay? That's the argument that they use that the Erartians built with stonework on the bottom, and then mud brick above it on top, because these were all incorporated into castles. That's what the word kalesi means. They're castles. And they were castles, but that doesn't mean they originally were castles, okay? That's the thing that really needs to come across here, is that. Any civilization we see around the world adopts ancient sites. They know it's important. They often will incorporate symbols into their culture from another ancient site. We see it all around the world. They'll adopt a site and then build right on top of it. It happens all the time. The Romans are famous for building on top of older foundations of structures. We see that in Baalbek, Lebanon, all the time. So what is being laid out right now is that archaeologists are saying the Erartians built this unbelievable andesite on the bottom with these stonework and then built primitive mud brick right on top of it. And that's where it was everywhere. But the problem is that it doesn't really make sense. And the only reason why they're saying that is because there's cuneiform writing written into some areas of these temples and these structures. Cuneiform. So we see the wedge-like. cuneiform design into the outer part of Ionis when you first come in. However, that's the only piece of evidence, and there's no other evidence they're using to back it up, because if you translate this Erartian cuneiform, it talks about rulers like Rusa II and other rulers who have wrote in like, "Oh, this temple was built. " They don't even say they built it. They just say this temple is built in honor or whatever it is, but they don't say anything about the original foundations or anything, but they claim ownership of these sites, okay? And for a certain dynasty or time period. That is the only evidence that archaeologists are using to say who built it, is the cuneiform, except there's a problem. Throughout Egypt, we have evidence from, say, the Ramsey culture and other dynastic Egyptians that they would write and carve hieroglyphics into other existing structures and claim ownership for them, right? That's one of the. One of the arguments for the Sphinx is that it was re-carved and it was originally not that the same head. Well, that's the same problem we have here, is that the Erartians, and it's a famous, it's a thing that is very common in the ancient world, is trying to take credit for something, because you want to seem greater and more majestic. And I postulate that all of the cuneiform, all of it, is from the Erartians, and that this mysterious civilization that built this left no writings at all behind. None. None. I see the same thing in Egypt, is there's no writings left behind from like the builders of the Great Pyramid in Egypt, of Giza. Yeah. There's no writings. I just have new caverns in here going through a bunch of that timeline, it's crazy. It's a. There's no writings anywhere inside the Great Pyramid at all. There's one, something scribbled that is supposedly scribbled with Khufu's name that is very likely a forgery that's been talked about from the 1800s. It's a whole story that you can get into, but there's no writings anywhere in there. In fact, most megalithic structures around the world, for instance, Peru and Bolivia, there's no writings in any of the megaliths anywhere there, it just got back from Peru. There's not one place where there's writings like in it, okay? Same with Egypt, the blocks don't have writings. So here we have beautiful megalithic work around Lake Vaughan with writings that are sporadic in a couple places, but most of them have nothing on them, and so the argument that I'm putting forth. Is that the Urartians came forward and had a war-like culture, and they were. They were fighting the Assyrians like crazy back and forth. They, through their own wanting to be a superior civilization and showing their dominance, they put their names and they took credit for an earlier civilization that built these and then put their cuneiform into it. Carefully selecting and packing your order with care because bringing you fresh, quality groceries is what we do best. Restrictions apply. Kroger, fresh for everyone. So that's where we get like they build the castle on top of what. Exactly. And then they incorporate the existing structures into their culture. Whereas if we look at the capabilities of the Urartians through their art, pottery, what they were doing, they severely lacked any of the capability in my mind. From everything I've studied and other archaeologists have put forth and have talked about as well, is that they just, it doesn't match any of their other building styles. You can see other Urartian building styles with crude stonework and mud brick, and it doesn't match that time period at all. It just doesn't. So it's an outlier and there would have to be something unforeseen in the capabilities of their civilization or in the stylistic culture or whatever of their civilization. For this to actually be attributed to them completely from where the base was. If you take out the cuneiform, there's no evidence that the Urartians built it at all. None. And so that's where we get into is whether or not they just carved cuneiform into some of these structures to take credit for them, like Shavuos Tepe, like Ionis. We see a lot of examples of that around the world, as I said, of cultures adopting and trying to take ownership of something that they didn't actually build. Sure. And let's get back to Lake Vaughan. Yes, because I originally opened up this tangent with asking about the main, you know, three, five things, whatever it is that you're going to be looking for going down there. So the stonework. Yeah. That was a long side tangent to talk about the stonework. When you go down under Lake Vaughan, you see highly precise stonework, just like we see above the water at Ionis, Shavuos Tepe, Kefkalesi, Asverna Tepe, Toprakal, all their other sites where you see beautiful. Beautiful stonework at the bases of these, with basalt and andesite, where it's finely cut and polished. And we see the same thing underwater, okay? And that's the first thing we bring up, is that it has the same kind of architecture. Now, the big thing about the next piece of evidence I want to bring up is for dating. And then we can talk about the symbols that are carved into stone. Yes, we'll get there. I think that the dating potential under Lake Vaughan creates a scenario that is unusual anywhere in the world. The first thing is. The second thing is that you can't date stone above water. It gets extremely affected by the environment of weathering and other environments. The only reason Gobekli Tepe was able to be dated is because it was buried. Yes, buried. Okay, so then they were able to go in and carbon date the organic material in the cracks of that. Now, some of that could be possible at some of these sites if they do it right, because we have evidence that Kefkalesi and Ionis was buried as well. Evidence that the Urartians. Buried it because they were being invaded and it was potentially going to be destroyed by other cultures, and they knew it was important. And so, like, Ionis was a giant hillside mound on top. And they found evidence that not only was it either potentially or deliberately. Basically, it was a castle on top that it was broken. Not broken in, but basically collapsed in on itself and then buried on top of that with. A very thick layer up to five or sometimes even ten feet of material that was then put on top. So the amount of work necessary to bury these would have been enormous. But you would have done that if you wanted to preserve them. So that is what we've found is that that possibly could be another avenue is some of the soil and some of the dating done on this. And I'm in talks with Robert Schock on whether or not that's something we're going to be pursuing with some of these sites as well. And because it's in the lake, you can actually do it in a more verified. Viable way. You have the potential of soil sampling, core sampling of soil that is different with an undisturbed underwater situation than you do above ground. And so that's something that's possible in the future. But let me bring up the big one here. There's a big one. Again, how do you date any of this then besides what I just said? That's a. You don't get much more than that. You get some types of organic dating if you have it available based on the scenario. And then there's like vitrification. Vitrification of melting of rock that we identified. That's another possibility to do some dating on. But the big one is this. So as I mentioned, this underwater ruins of Lake Vaughan are 75 feet underwater. Which means that Lake Vaughan would have had to fluctuate at least 80 feet to be able to have these exposed above water. Now, Lake Vaughan is what's called a closed basin system. Meaning that it doesn't have any rivers that leave it. Okay? So it has rivers coming in and then nothing leaves. The only way that water can leave the lake is through evaporational cooling. There's no other way. Oh, because of the flow of the river. Yeah. That's what you're saying. And so. But the problem is that it wasn't always like that. Lake Vaughan used to have a river that exited it. In the southwest part of the river, there's a river called the Murat River. M-U-R-A-T. That used to exit the lake and it was the only river that exited the lake. Now, if you imagine. Climatically, in the last 12,000 years. If you're going to try to discuss how a lake can fluctuate its water levels. You would be like, oh, well, it went through different periods of rain and then less rain and less snow. Right? And then dry periods. Well, that would only be able to fluctuate the lake a few hundred meters at most. Right? Yeah. Feet. Not 80 feet. That would be. That would be something beyond any kind of mega drought to be able to do. To do something like that. Especially in a region that doesn't have those kinds of droughts. So, I was doing research and I stumbled across something very significant. That actually may change this whole ballgame. And I think it's one of the ways that we could have some, what you call a smoking gun piece of evidence. And what is that? That joins Robert Shocks and John Anthony West's water weathering of the Sphinx enclosure. When you look at historic records of Lake Vaughan, there's an anomaly. You can find. There's a volcano on the southwest part of Lake Vaughan called Mount Nemrut. Not to be confused with the other Mount Nemrut that's more in central Turkey. It is one of the largest volcanic calderas in the world. It's enormous. And in fact, Alexander the Great, when he traveled to that region, they visited that and they talked about it. Xerxes the Great visited this region too. It was an ancient region. We've talked about it. We've talked about the biblical connections to the Sons of Noah and this whole Ararat civilization thing that may tie into this mysterious civilization. So other cultures were coming here as tourists to see it. In fact, in Vaughan, there's an inscription carved out of the stone in a place called Tuzpa, the castle in Vaughan, from Xerxes the Great. That's in that. So they were visiting this place. Anyway, in the southwest part of the lake, as I mentioned, is a massive volcano. It has an eruption that was so big that it altered that entire region. Literally, the entire mountain blew up. Hey, guys, if you haven't already subscribed, please hit that subscribe button. It's a huge, huge help. Thank you. And it has a volcanic crater, a caldera that is miles across. It's enormous. Now, when you look at data of this volcano, you find out that it's been extremely studied because it's one of the better calderas in the world. The bigger. And more like older and more well studied. And so you look at the dating and they've gone in, they've done cores into the volcano and they've studied the hell out of it. So we have a bunch of data from the volcano, which is interesting because it gives us the scientific evidence we need to help potentially prove the dating of this civilization. Let me tell you why. When you look into the records of what they found with this volcano is they found out that the volcano has had its last major. So the one where it blew its top off, right, scattered stuff all over Vaughn happened right at the end of the Younger Dryas. Oh, convenient. Right at the end of the Younger Dryas around 11,000 to 12,000 years ago, somewhere in there, maybe 13, somewhere in that time period of the Younger Dryas. OK, so they know that that's when it last had its its major eruption. There has been little minor ones since then, but usually volcanoes kind of burp a little bit. You know, over time, but not not a major one. Yep. So what happened was you find out that they have great geologic records of this, that when Mount Nemrut exploded, it's debris because it's right next to the Murat River. The Murat River, it's only a couple of miles away, blocked off the access outlet of the Murat River from Lake Vaughn, the only river that exits Lake Vaughn, blocking it off and basically completely separating it from the lake, creating a closed bay. based close base and system where no water could leave Lake Vaughan again. Now, if you have a bathtub, I'm going to give the bathtub analogy, and you are filling the bathtub with water, meaning rivers coming in, right? Because there's big rivers that flow into Lake Vaughan. And you have a plug that's partially open. You're going to have the water come in, but some leaves. So you're going to have a somewhat consistent level of water that fluctuates a little bit, right, based on how much you put in. But some is always going to leave. That's how lakes work, right? That's how you fluctuate the lake. What happens if you plug it up? Boom, you put the plug in. What happens? It all of a sudden fills up with an enormous amount, doesn't it? Well, how else could you account for 80 to 100 feet of lake depth change to then flood over ancient civilization ruins and then put it somewhere? You now have dating from a geologic event that occurred that specifically blocks off the only outlet that would have allowed water to leave, keeping a steady flow in that lake, to then flood it over. And you have geologic dating proving when that event occurs. Which means that this is older than that event. Exactly. Wow. Which means that we now have what may be the best tangible evidence, or some of the best we've ever had, to prove that these are lost civilization evidence before the Younger Dryas. How old, again, do they say, Gobekli? Gobekli Tepe is? 11,800 years old. Okay, so also right in that time period. But that's the dating they get. It may be older than that. Based on what? Well, it means that that's the age of the organic matter that was on that crevice. It doesn't mean that that's when the stones were built. You see what I'm saying? That's like saying, well, we know it's at least 11,800 years old. Because you can't date stone. So just like we're saying here, well, we know this geologic event happened where it blocked off the Murat River, and then raised Lake Vaughn flooding over this ruins. We know it's at least 12,000 years old. Yes, but it could be way older. Exactly. Exactly. It could be way older than that. So this is very exciting. Because we have scientific evidence now that is very extensive, that is really adding up to a smoking gun, potentially, of changing this entire narrative. And when are you. So you have to get. You have to get the permits and everything. When are you looking to do this? We're going to be diving down with Tawson, who is the one who discovered these underwater ruins. We're going to be going with a whole team at the end of June, early July. That's coming up. And what was the other thing you said you hinted at you were going to be looking for is the symbolism on the rocks? Yeah. One of the things that he found when he went down there is that not only does it have the same type of stonework and the type of stone that is important to understand, but there are a lot of different symbols that are carved into the top of these blocks. And that is the flower of life. This giant six-figured spoke, I'll call them spokes, flower of life, which is very important, that number of spokes, because it's going to tie into numerology and this motif around the world that we're going to talk about and symbols that connect to all the stuff above that we're going to get into as well. And for people who aren't familiar, who haven't heard on previous podcasts and stuff, can you explain the flower of life and what that is and what its history is? So the flower of life is a type of symbol that has been used by ancient cultures throughout history. It's one of the most common motif symbols we find. I think that one of the best examples for it we can see in ancient times is if we go to the Osirion in Abydos, Egypt. And in the Osirion is this massive subterranean area that is built out of these huge granite columns that are many, many multi-ton granite columns that is a very mysterious place because there's primitive limestone built above it, just like we talked about with different cultures building on top of older existing things. And down in the Osirion, you can see these numerous patterns that have been carved into the rock of this six-spoked flower of life. Now, why six? Well, the flower of life is basically the way that the flower of life is shaped. It's the way that the flower of life is shaped. It's the way that you would embody and show the intelligent design of life in the entire universe. And let me get into why that statement. So this gets into Nikola Tesla. So Nikola Tesla, he has this famous quote. He says, basically, if you want to uncover the mysteries of the universe, it's found within the numbers three, six, and nine. He realized that there was a If you see the designs of like a honeycomb or the designs of the flowers and patterns everywhere, it follows and mimics this design of three, six, and then nine. It's basically, it's a repeating pattern of life. It's a life pattern. And it's possible evidence to also discuss the idea of an intelligence for our universe as well. It's like a pattern. It's like a blueprint. It's a blueprint of the creation of life in the universe. Now, the reason three is the first number, is that three is the most is the first most simplistic number where you can create a triangle. Yes. Right. And so it gets into, we get into, you know, the tetrahedron and all of that, right? Can't close a shape without at least three. And so it's, we're talking about this type of pattern like design that mimics life, the creation of life everywhere in the universe. And that pattern that he had identified as being like a blueprint. Okay. Do you know how he came across this and when he did? Using, um, when he was doing cymatic types of, uh, projects, you know, cymatics is cymatics is when you use electricity using, playing with the magnetism of the earth and it creates like these designs. It's like plasma type of electric, electric, electric city designs. And it creates the cymatics. And I'm not an expert on this. I just want to point out there's people that could talk much more extensively about this than I could, but it basically is a way of seeing patterns that are designed based on electromagnetic forces and magnetism. And it creates patterns like there's already this natural inherent pattern that comes from energetics that then is, that it's embodied through physical things, right? Shells and fossil, uh, shells and flowers and other things. It's a type of design that has to do with the creation of life and how life mimics this pattern. And he determined that through his experimentation with, um, with plasma and through, and through with electricity, electricity and magnetism. And that's where you get down that whole rabbit hole of free energy and understanding that there's an energetic force that has to do with the magnetism of the earth and all this thing, these things, right? Well, getting a little away from that, it's, we find that pattern was known about by the ancients. They knew about this pattern of creation. Yes. How do we know that? Because they, when we look at all of these symbols, you look at every single symbol that we're looking at, except for one, the cross cross is more of a totality symbol, but you look at the step pyramid design. There's always three levels to it. Every time we go around the world, whether or not it's Peru. And I just got back looking at it. For instance, there's a place called the spring of the new stuff and Ollantaytambo has three levels to it. You can also go across the, just down the road from it to a place called Napa Iglesia. There's these doorways that are like false doorways. There's always three levels every time. Anytime you see these ancient motif designs, you see this type of pyramid like three level pyramid design or three level kind of entrance way. Like for instance, if you look at the gate of the sun at Tiwanaku and Pumapunku, there's a doorway there. If you look at the backside of that, there are three levels to that. Just like Viracocha is that's depicted on that is standing on a platform with three levels. Okay. So you get this repeating pattern over and over and over again. They show three over and over everywhere. And then they see that you see a pattern of the flower of life, which is six. And then you get these three level step pyramids, like on the Kefpa relief, three pyramids, nine, right? Three plus three plus three. Every single time you look at the motifs and designs they had, they were mimicking this pattern of creation in the universe. Like they already understood it. And this gets down into this, this whole discussion of whether or not this lost time period of human history, this, these incredible cultures, the reason they were able to build the things that they were these magnificent megalithic megalithic things that we have no idea how they move them, how they carve them. Any of these questions of how they did these things they did. It comes down into, well, did it comes down to the question of, well, did they understand physics and aspects of the energetics and designs woven into our universe that Nikola Tesla stumbled upon? That's really what this conversation is about is whether or not there was already something known that is not like he invented. It's like he found it again. Yes. Through what was already rediscovered it from what was already known. And they may help us to understand the capabilities of this lost civilization to do the things that they were doing because they understood these fundamental key things of not only the earth, but the universe. But if something's like that simple, that, It's amazing, but it strikes me as a. as something that they could have figured out just looking at physical patterns around them as opposed to putting it to work say totally technologically and when i say technologically i'm referring more to like what we have now like computers and things like that technically everything is technology like when you're building something or something like that so let's keep it simple but they may have been looking at those things on a simplistic level and possibly discovered something that is insanely accurate and points to scientific underlying scientific discoveries yet to be made after them that could help us go down the right track in that way whereas when tesla's looking at it and i hope this is making sense to people out there but when tesla's looking at it he's now at a point where we've advanced more in human history he's working on things that are highly complex and would have been viewed as insane magic by those previous civilizations and he's able to more advance that into more of a modern version of the theory while taking the basically case that they figured out meaning they weren't more advanced than where he is but they did have certain things figured out that were ahead of their time if you will okay i'll give you some examples for why i think it's more complex and they knew more than that first of all we have this premonition that's been very much established into our mindsets that if it's old it's primitive that's often something that is oh wow that's that's that's really old so that must be or that's primitive so it must be old right i agree and i think that that is the first place we need to try to separate is to say well wait a minute yes everything in the last few thousand years like stonehenge and other things they're more primitive older designs i agree but when we're looking at this time period of what the the things that we're looking at right now like fawn around the osirion around parts of peru and bolivia we may be looking at a completely different chapter of human civilization and we may be looking at a civilization in which they knew things and understood things that even we don't know today thank you guys for checking out this clip if you haven't already subscribed please subscribe and hit the like button on this video it is a huge huge help and if you'd like to check out this clip's full podcast episode that link is in the description below or right here and finally you can follow me on instagram and x by using the links in my description below when you shop kroger delivery you can expect the savings you love and fresh groceries delivered right to your door our refrigerated trucks keep your items fresh while our associates are committed to getting every detail right carefully selecting and packing your order with care because bringing you fresh quality groceries is what we do best and right now enjoy twenty dollars off your first online order of seventy five dollars or more restrictions apply see site for details kroger fresh for everyone