‘The Nice Guys’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Rob Mahoney
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The podcast celebrates *The Nice Guys* as a compelling, rewatchable film that blends 1970s nostalgia with sharp satire and physical comedy. Central to its success is Ryan Gosling’s breakout performance—marked by humor, vulnerability, and absurdity—particularly in scenes like the bathroom pants-down moment and the 12-year-old’s “I have a big dick” line. The film’s setting, rooted in 1970s LA with gas shortages, smog, and a carefree, chaotic vibe, enhances its charm and authenticity. Shane Black’s sharp, cynical writing delivers a layered plot that evolves across viewings, with witty dialogue and iconic set pieces like the porn party and the “shut up unless you’re me” game. The chemistry between Gosling and Russell Crowe, along with standout supporting roles, adds depth. The discussion also highlights the film’s cultural significance, noting its influence on action-comedy genre and its status as a cult favorite. The episode praises Gosling’s fearless embrace of comedy and vulnerability, contrasting it with today’s more polished but less daring performances. While some characters, like Kim Basinger’s, feel out of place, the film’s overall energy, humor, and nostalgic tone make it a standout. It’s presented as a modern classic that embodies the spirit of 70s American cinema—loose, irreverent, and full of life. The rewatchable nature of the film is reinforced by its recurring jokes, physical gags, and the enduring appeal of its characters and world.
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Nice guys, technically the 10-year anniversary of this movie came out in 2016. One of those, I wrote down, destined to become a beloved cult movie, but tried to be a hit movie. But then it was in a hit movie and then it became exactly what it was supposed to be, which was a beloved cult movie. It happened almost immediately, it was in the last vestiges of when people would go to cable and still watch stuff on cable, but the streamers were coming. You know that this movie is popper because it's on all the time. On cable channels, it's always on one of the big streamers. It's just here and it feels like it's here to stay here. >> It's got everything you want from a movie. Usually when we do rewatchables, especially over the last couple of months, I've noticed like a lot of the things that I tend to highlight or like sequences, filmmaking, moments from the movie. It's all lines. This is a great dialogue movie. This is a great memorable lines movie. It features my favorite Ryan Gosling performance and he's in the news obviously because Project Hail Mary is coming out this weekend, I guess, when we're recording. So it'll be next past weekend when you hear this. Yeah, this is just still like, do you really need to know the plot of this movie? Just turn it on and hang out with it. It's the closest thing we've got to midnight run this century. It is midnight run, but somehow it's lazier. I guess we get even grimeier, even weirder, you're out of the lines, but I feel like it's a perfect rewatchable because if you are locked in, the physical comedy is so funny. But if you're second screening, the line deliveries are so great and if you're just walking around doing chores, you're going to be like cackling from the next room because some of this stuff is so big, you can just hear it and react to it. >> Yeah, it's a chemistry. It's weird. They've only made one, but I guess the movie didn't do well enough to bring back. It's such a shame. >> Yeah. I have a list of movies that went backwards to the 1970s because I think that's part of the secret sauce. Oogie Knight's almost famous, Casino, Goodfell is the conjuring rush, Zodiac, Anchorman, Ice Storm, nice guys, days to confuse Argo and American gangster. So that is just 13. I think we've done all of those unrewatchables now except for Rush, which is on the list. Why isn't so fun to go back to the 70s? What is it? >> Cars are cool. >> Look. Ladies looked great. >> Ladies look great. >> They look great. They look the best back then. >> What else do you need? Everybody was kind of like, this fucking government is screwing us over, but what can we do about it? >> Let's get drunk. >> Yeah. >> Let's have some cigarettes. It's okay. You can drive home. You're fine. >> The burgeoning porn industry. I mean, what else do you want? >> Yeah. I mean, this movie is so cool for exactly those reasons, even though everyone in it is aggressively uncool. >> Yeah. >> It shouldn't be, but because of the era, because of the stylings, because of the cars, it just kind of works in that way. >> Craig, I was there for the 70s, so I vaguely remember some of it. You missed it by a couple of decades. >> Yeah. >> When you go back in the 70s, what is it for you? >> Did giant lapels, the brown suits, parties just seeming really fun. No phones. Everyone's topless. >> Guys, girls, the topless mermaids and parties, I mean, come on. >> Yeah, yeah. >> We really had it off the grid of fact that I'm trying to, what are movies that failed that went back to the 70s? I'm sure there's been a couple when we blacked them out of our minds, but. >> It's a great question. >> There have been ones where we go back and it just didn't work and we were like, why are we doing this? Because maybe like semi-pro, didn't totally work, but even that one, I kind of enjoy. >> The funny thing is with a movie like semi-pro, which I actually, there's a couple of really amazing scenes in that, it's like they can't get out of their own contemporary heads enough. >> Yeah. >> It's like you're always aware that you were watching Will Ferrell pretend to be an ABA basketball player. >> Yeah. >> Whereas this just feels like an episode of the Rockford Files, man, with more profanity and more nudity and better jokes. >> Pluto's really brought back this decade they have. I think they might even have a 70s channel, but you can just dive in a love boat, fantasy island, Rockford Files, Vegas, and it really was kind of like this, especially like you watched the Charlie's Angels, where everything was resolved in an hour. And you would just have these skeevy guys, like the Russell Crowe character. You'd have a good looking woman trying to navigate like this inherently crazy, sexist world. Everybody's drinking and just people have nice cars and they're just driving on LA, there's never traffic. >> Yeah. >> It just seems like the greatest place. The big crisis in this movie is smog. >> Yeah. >> And meanwhile, there's no traffic. They're just zooming down sunset, happily popping around different parties. >> That's because they also had the gas crisis, so maybe some people were staying off the road. >> When you were growing up and you're watching these 70 shows, but have no context of any part of LA. >> Yeah. >> And you don't know where LA begins and ends in your mind. You think the beach is next to sunset Boulevard and all this stuff, but that was the LA I fell in love with. It was one of the reasons I want to move here. >> So remember the first time I came here, I did one of those, this is how LA is supposed to work days, right? I went to the beach, then I drove to Silver Lake, and then went to a hockey game. And it was like one of the worst days of my life because I spent five hours in bumper to bumper traffic and tried to do that. And so it really wiped away any preconceived notions I had about how easy it would be to get around here. >> So how do we go back other than a smog crisis and massive corporate conspiracy? How do we get it back? >> It feels like we can rebuild it. >> When you moved here, what was different about LA than you expected? >> I think it's as advertised, like it's as miserable going across town as everyone tells you that it is. I am exactly in the size of bubble that everyone warned me I would be. As long as you're aware of what's happening, I think it's fine. Every once in a while, I'll have an LA experience. I just have one driving over where I'm like, I wish I could have Jack and Holland in the car with me to kind of like, because I was just behind a WAMO that refused to take the left turn. You know, it was just like, well, there still could be traffic coming in. I'm like, wow, we're just going to see you're behind this fucking robot car. >> Does that work? >> For half an hour. This is insane. And I was just like, I wish those guys were in the backseat just like firing off one liners, yeah. >> This has been my most LA experience is learn, I'm not an aggressive driver by type. The city brings it out of you, but learning that you can bully every robot car on the road. >> Yeah. >> Has been a very formative experience for me. >> Until they turn back the time. >> Plus true. >> I'm going to get my licks in the major. >> I haven't done a new thing when I'm walking around and I see the WAMO coming. I just kind of go on the street a little bit because it spasses out. And it's just like, yeah, who's he charged now, WAMO? Somewhere there's a reddit. >> Redd was like, I was going to WAMO and fucking those students get taunting my car. >> Ryan Gasling. This is, so we talked about the concept of Oscars MVPs. We're like, who owned the year? We talked about that the last rewatch was? >> We talked about that being a new category that we may need to introduce because there are certain years where like Spielberg, a director. >> Gasling does this in La La Land and I, you know, this movie didn't do like fantastic or anything, but two really distinct performances, really funny. He's one of the first people you think about this year. He would have, I think, been nominated for MVP. He would have been his, I think what basketball, it's his Kate Cunningham year. Like please throw me in the mix for your podcast conversation. >> Does that mean you're going to win? >> I was thinking about years where you could watch a terrific actor do completely different things in two movies in the same year. >> Yeah. >> And I was trying to find all the times that this happened. The funniest example that's just like stood out was Ed Norton, who's in Rounders as Worm and American History X in the same year with like iconic performances, right? >> Yes. >> He's Worm and then he's the American History X guy. Thanks.
was Philadelphia and Sleepless in Seattle in 1993. Pretty distinct. And then Leo did Departed and Blood Diamond same year. - Those were that different. - Well, one, he's got the accent. - I mean, that's true. - Denny. - Denny. - Baxons are quite different. - And there's other ones that had like big years, like Poiti A, big people like that. Cruz had a couple two movie combos, but he's always Cruz. But it's like Maguire and Mission One. Top Gun and Color Money, Cocktail and Rain Man. But you wouldn't say Cruz became two different people. Gosling in this movie compared to La La Land feels like two different people. - Dramatically. - Yes. But this is my favorite era for him. It's after his angry young man opening of half Nelson and Drive and some of that stuff. This is one of the best runs for me in the recent memory of an actor showing their taste. It's working with great directors. He kind of stops at what first man or Blade Runner 2049 and takes a few years off. And I comes back to this era that we're now, which is like Fall Guy, Barbie, Project Hail Mary. And it's kind of a little bit more happy, go lucky, here for a good time, not a long time, kind of like vibes. Whereas like this is really like complicated or charming, really, really like well tailored to his skill set. And the thing about him that I think is really lost on some of our big young stars now is he's fucking funny. - Yeah. - He is so funny. And he's funny in La La Land. I mean, he's maybe not funny in Blade Runner, but he is able to do comedy. - Solaris and Drive. - He's so hysterical. - Yeah. - But in him being a comedic actor, like I think this movie launches him in a totally different way. - Yeah, I would bet every dollar in my pocket Ken does not happen without this movie. Like this is him going full buffoon in a way that you need to sell that pitch of, oh, he can be this guy and not just like a smarmy kind of, something like wisecracking comedian, but someone who's like the butt of every joke in this movie. - Well, so you could be funny by how you deliver lines, but then you could be funny by not doing anything, which is a much harder level of funny. And he has moments of this movie where he's funny and he's not saying lines. - It's funny when he's just throwing cigarettes in his pool. - Right. 'Cause like when he's, we talked about in the rewatchables in a mailbag that's coming on Thursday. Oh, it probably already happened by the time people heard this. - By the time people heard this. We talked about how good of an SNL host he is. And I think the best SNL sketch he had was when he was like those beevison butthead guys and the audience. - That's so good. - And it was just all facial expressions, but it does that a couple of times in this movie. And, you know, I can't wait to see who we thought won the movie when we do at the end, he's obviously in the running. But I kind of feel like he needed this for the IMDB. I mean, like one of these, like when we talked about with Crazy Stupid Love, same thing where it's like, I can be like handsome romcom guy. I can be like really funny detective guy. I can be mysterious drive guy. I can be Lala Lane guy. - I can be Neil Armstrong. - Yeah. - He's got a lot of pitches, which I think separates him. - He's got a ton of humility. Because there are other actors who would do this and have three characters in the movie make reference to how handsome he is. Or like, why are you so talented? You're throwing everything away. This guy's just a loser and the only person who really sees him as anything else is his daughter. And it's, the movie works because of that. If it was like, oh, he's so hot, he's so funny. It's like, no, everybody thinks this guy is basically a functioning alcoholic who happens at the end to become a great detective or like to rediscover his detective skills. - And he has to suck. Like he has to be that kind of low life to the point that like maybe the best moment of this movie is him with his pants down in a bathroom stall. - Yeah. Trying to kick the door open and hold it. And it's like the physical beats of that are really hard to pull off, but you're right. It requires you to be willing to embarrass yourself in a kind of way. - Yeah, it's hard to like be like, hey, you're one of the biggest stars in the world. We want you to take a dump, drop a cigarette in your lap and then get intimidated by Russell Crowe not holding a gun on you. - Yeah. We talked about this when we did some more in Betty podcasts last year on rewatchables and we did Redford Month and we talked about the concept of stardom and what stars were willing and unwilling to do. And William Goldman was telling that story about Warren Beatty turning down misery 'cause the guy was crippled in bed and he's like, I don't want to play a loser. And that was like a recurring theme with some of those guys. I don't want to be a loser, I get to be the hero. I want to be the guy, I don't want to be vulnerable. - Yeah. - Gosling does not care. He's willing to go for whatever. You know what loves Gosling? - Craig. - It's like your number one guy. - Definitely of this generation, yes. Because the comedy thing is the biggest risk of any genre I think you can take. If you do a really weird dramatic role, there's prestige in that. All the other young great actors right now, Shauman, Jacob Allordie and whoever you want to say, none of them are really taking a risk with comedy. You can, Allordie can take a risk with Frankenstein and being the makeup and do all that stuff and it's like a pivot. But the specific curve ball of comedy is risky now and nobody does it in Gosling to your point and even when he's on SNL. He's okay making himself look stupid. That's like half of the fun of it. And I think Gosling is having the most fun in this movie and you can even tell how much Gosling loves this movie. To this day, he still does press, when he's doing press for other stuff like Project Hill Mary, he keeps talking about how angry birds, the movie, is the reason why the nice guys flop because they came out the same weekend. He's like, fucking angry birds. Man, those birds were just so angry. - So we, what's your, what's your, what's your, what's your, what's your history with this movie? - Late, late coming to it. - Okay. - Saw the VOD probably after it came out and then was a slow burn. Could just 'cause it was on a lot and it has a couple really good set pieces that you get something. - This is not a crazy Netflix one. I mean, I always use movie theaters, did you? - Yes, but this would be right around when I was, I also love Shane Black. So like I have a lot of affinity for I mean, lethal weapon and long caske of night and last action were like the, the other ones that he did in the 80s and the early 90s. So yeah. - Last Boy Scouts. - Last Boy Scouts. - And this is like as Shane Black, as Shane Black gets, honestly, like purely distilled. I think especially it's so cynical and I think there's this kind of like discrepancy in the movie of like what's the right move versus what's the smart move? - Yes. - And they're making the smart move the whole time, which is basically to be as crooked as everyone else and like pull over one on old ladies and beat people up whenever you need. And that like idea that we're all cynical, we're all exploiting people. But then sometimes it's like you get to the bottom of the barrel and it's like, I kind of just want to do the one right thing. - Yes. - And Shane Black is so good at that. - Yeah, I think this movie is like a second or third watch 'cause the plot is so convoluted. - Oh yeah. - It's hard to follow the first time you're watching. - So like what's going on? - There's a tape and that audio show. - It starts out confusing and we'll get to it probably in their categories. But like it's unclear if you're just watching the first time you're like, wait, so he's following Amelia, but he's just looking for Amelia 'cause she's germane to another case. - Is it Amelia again? - Yeah, exactly. - So that's Margaret Qualey, Russell Crowe. Little bit after one of the best actor career ones we had, this 11 year run from 97 to '07, had a pretty hard career swim. Some of that was self-inflicted. And he's 51 when he does this movie and it's a hard 51. Like he's lived some life. - He says it was Australian life. - He says it was a character choice. - He did that. - He had to pack on it for this guy. - Yeah, he might have already packed it on. I would say Rob, this wasn't quite his 22 step warriors title, but a little bit somewhere vibes of like, I'm still here. I'm still really good at stuff. Don't count me out. - Yeah, I think he's more than still here. Like this movie doesn't work without his like counterweight to everything. We just praised Gossling up and down. I think you need the specificities of cross performance. I want to save some more about that for later, but I think he's just phenomenal. I mean, look, him and Goss integrated together. Obviously he peaked chemistry wise the most with Caruso and proof of life. - Yeah. - We don't need to litigate that. - No, stuff of life. - I really like that he was able to find chemistry with another actor though. After you peek like that with Caruso. - Yeah. - To know that he could still do it again. I thought it was cool. - Yeah, so like he just makes some odd choices with what to do with his career. That may be a matter of like what's offered to him versus what he wants to be doing. I mean, it's more likely now that you'll see him in an exorcism movie than you'll see him in a big drama. - He's had a big like early 60s renaissance. He's moved into this horror film kind of. - But he's a Nuremberg that came out this year, this past year. He's fantastic in this. He's such a great broth, bully with a heart of gold. And he's the one with principles in this movie. - Yeah. - I'm a big fan of the somebody opens a door and just gets punched right in the face. I think I always works from a comedic standpoint. Yeah, it's so starting in 2010, Robin Hood next three days, Republic of Doyle, man with the Iron Fist, they miss a rob, broken city, man of steel, winner's tail, Noah, the winter diviner, with water diviner and fathers and daughters. - Yeah. - That's six years. This was in the running for biggest actor that we had in the early 2000s. It was Sima Denz out, right? - Yeah. - We talked about this when we did gangster, but good come back from him. Also some really good stuff from the younger actors in this. How do we say Andre Rice? Is that him? - On Gori, I think. - Yeah, on Gori Rice? - Margot Kuala. - I like Andre Rice, though. - Andre Rice and he's in this. - She's in this. (laughing) - But Rice has a tremendous little kid performance in this. - Amazing. - And if you came out of this movie and you were like, which of these two are going to have a bigger group?
career race or quality. I think rice would have been like a minus three and a favorite. She's younger. She was in mayor of East town. Yeah. Yeah. But quality. It's funny to watch her in this now because she's a major, major star. I'm going to give rice the Sasha Jenkins award for the actor you can't believe that it become a bigger star just from this movie. Yeah. There's so much time. I feel like 19. Yeah. I don't even know. She's 25. Okay. It's so it's so can happen. That's why she can't officially get it. And then I got Keith David is in this CR. Great to see him. Is it that guy to Craig? I guess it's Keith David. We're not going to let it get that either. I'm glad it didn't go to Detroit. You know, he came back. He came back for the second turn in this movie. You go to Michigan. We're cool. Yeah. The nice guys took inspiration from Brett Halliday's novel Blue Murder, which is a pulp book. You have this one. I do not have this one. Yeah. I need to get this for the book collection. Yeah. I tried to figure it out. Directed and co-written by Shane Black. You mentioned his credentials earlier. Last Boy Scout wrote. Last Action Arrow wrote. Long Kiss Goodnight wrote. Created the Weathe Whip from franchise. Wrote all of them. Directed Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. Wrote and directed Iron Man 3, which was the most successful. Was Walk Me Through Iron Man 3. What happens? The first two thirds are actually really good. Yeah. The last third is like a bunch of action figures mashing against each other. The kid who finds Misty Mountains in this movie. The kid who discovers her in the beginning is the star of Iron Man 3. Really? Yeah. Straight up. Interesting. Well, he started this script for this in '01. It almost became a CBS TV series at some point. And then they changed this set into 1977 and it fell into place as a movie eventually. TV series. I don't know if that one would have worked. What about a little early for the prestige TV run? Like I can see this working, but I don't think you get Gosling and Crow to do this. No. Yeah. We'll talk more about what they should have done with this franchise later. I feel like the TV part is almost more believable than the idea that it wouldn't be a period piece. Like trying to set this in 2016 or 2010 or something. I don't even know what that story is. It was just you guys sitting in traffic. Yeah. Well, it allows you a lot more fun too, with '77 because you have way less rules and restrictions. So this movie 50 million made 62.8. Fairly made the money back. Gosling made the point over and over again about Angry Birds. It also opened again in Neighbors 2. Yeah. Which was a reprehensible sequel. One of the, was that one comedy dive, Craig? Neighbors 2. What year was that? I thought it was 2016. Same year. Yeah. That's bad. That might have been the, uh, who were the, who were the additions to the Neighbors universe in that movie? Grace Moretz was in it because it's really bad. 115 minutes this movie, Craig. Yeah. Great. I'm not going to criticize this being over 100 minutes at all. This is like my favorite movie the last 10 years. So let's go. Good with me. So plus 15. You're good anyway. Fine. It's so tight. The script is great. I have no notes. Okay. Did we don't do enough about Shane Black? Is he like a top five screenwriter for you? I think he's a hugely influential and consequential screwdriver. And like him and Joe Astorhaz in the 80s kind of introduced this idea of like the million dollar spec. Yeah. And he is really, really, really maybe the best ever of the buddy, the buddy movie, the buddy. I tell you, he grew up on like the four to eight hours type of movies and was just like, this is going to be my recipe. Sure. Just, just wise cracks and action and, uh, good set pieces and I'm going to nail this. He does break your heart sometimes though. Yeah. Like they're either big hits like this or it's like a dirty. Yeah. Or I don't know that I ever looked more forward to a movie than when he did a predator movie. It was like wrong in a couple of different ways. It does not work. Unfortunately. Roger Ebert sadly passed away in 2016. You're going to. Or 2013. Disgrace yourself by asking Chatchee PT. Don't do that. What? Don't do that. I did. No. Chatchee BT said probably three and a half stars. Roger had given, he said he had a strong appreciation for great comedic performances. I think he would have gone three. I think he would have been like, it's pretty convoluted. I think Shane Black was right about humanity. Just like we are we are the absolute shit. Yeah. Just bottom of the barrel stuff. Chatchee PT. Roger Ebert's opinion. We don't have Roger. We didn't have the review. I would say three and a half, but I can see the three. Yeah. But I do think he would have really loved gasoline. And I think he liked these goofy genre kind of movies like this. You got to really want it with this movie because I do think you're right. On first watch, you're probably a little confused by the plot. And it's a little bit more confusing than the necessary. And then it's like the second, third, fourth time around where like it's the line underneath the line or the the sight gag happening in the background of a scene. Like Janet throwing the bowling ball backwards that you're just like holy shit. This is so funny. Fucking Janet. Well, but then dropping the dead body on the dinner table was funny the first time. Yes, but only escalates. Every time you see Citadelic's body, collapse that poor dinner party. Poor Citadelic. We're going to take a break and then we are going to do the categories. This episode is brought to you by Claude from Anthropic. 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Opening credits with overhead LA right into a car going through a house. Yeah, pretty good start. Yeah. I think that overhead helicopter shot is really cool though of the city where they did that. I like the house they landed on. These houses still exist by the way. These houses that came right out of the Brady Bunch. Sure. They're mostly in the valley. They're usually one story and very rarely you go to a party or you drive by one or for parents as you, when you have kids in here, you have some sort of drop off or birthday party or somebody's friend's house and you're like, oh my god, that house is like out of 1979. Yeah, like their rich style or always always the one story, like sometimes like the circle, driveling in front. They have a couple of those in these, but very, very like LA, but I like that because you're out there and you got a lead on one of these. I would like this house. Rob will live in Encino. The car going through the house was nothing though. That was a pretty good what the fuck is going on here. Just a great way to start a movie. Yeah, this is like shame blacks really smart about like what we'll grab somebody's attention. Yes. Well, then we get a nude scene in this. They weren't trying to grab your attention enough. If Dan was here, we would be bringing this up. Even in the background, the shot of when the kids at the sink and then you see the car tumbling down the hill in the background. It's really, it's really well done. I'll stage the number of times I've tried to watch this on a plane, including in the inflight entertainment. And I just have seen it so many times. I forget about the like almost full frontal duty in the first five minutes. And she's like, oh, I am, I am that guy sitting next to a child on a plane watching the opening scene of the nice guys. Well, thank God van is in here because this would be up five minutes longer. We'll go to the next scene. Jackson beats up March. This includes the we're going to play a game. It's called shut up unless you're made. Good way to say to your kids, by the way, I don't know if you tried that with that. Why did people go see this movie? Unbelievable. I like that game. This will see including like the tic-tac toe of Gosling trying to open the cookie jar and get the gun out and then getting punched in the face. It's just like this might be the most rewatchable scene. Well, we didn't mention before this scene, he punches through the window. Oh my God. This is our open. I can watch him react to his bleeding wrist. So many ties are just like, that's a lot of blood. I like it wraps it. Like it's going to go really well. Tell him you have a spiral fracture. The left radio followed by the high-pitched scream, which is really funny. Gosling on the on the John and the bathroom with the gun and the cigarette is pants down. Yeah, just hilarious. Great job by him. It's amazing. Plus Holly asking he'll need a beat up Janet. Yeah, the whole bowling alley scene is very good. I just it's a small scene, but it fucking kills me. And it just be my kind of humor, but the little kid on the bike. Bill, this is the most rewatched. Brad think about his dick. I mean, big dick, you want to see it? How many categories can this scene win? This kid, this scene. This is also every time $20. Fucking chat. When check goes, cost the guy his life and his life's work really makes you think, not really chat. I have to show my dick because I got a big dick. All right. The kid's perfectly cast, too, because he really has that. I have a big dick confidence, but he's just a 12-year-old on a bike. No one's named that, right? Can we give that kid the best fucking act you can ever see my life? He's very good. He watched this a dead waiter.
I'm glad it's a wrap $20 that kids like up there with Jacob Tremblay Yeah, like in terms of fucking young acting. How did anyone keep a straight face during that I don't think they did that was this movie must be insane. Oh my god I would have been fucking die. Oh fuck like I was you just saying this The big point party scene Which includes sweetheart how many times have I told you don't say and stuff just say there are And then you know why they call him killer bees, don't you? they kill you Goss and go over the deck is great and The can't speak thing is funny. Everything is great. I love the party. I like how weird it is. There's girls upside down When he goes up to one of the dancers and he just says you seem to have a very good vantage point up there. I lost my sister Man, I think this has to be the pick the party the porn party. Yeah, it's got the mermaids Yeah, it's got a bang and soundtrack. It's got a fight. It's got a death like it really has got the roll down the hell It was my pick to a couple more the dump at the body over the fence on the dinner party into the fight scene is good The hot tub shooting through the hot tub. I thought was a The elevator scene is short, but it's so fucking funny. I mean, it's definitely a most giftable moment Where's before the door opens? He's like Hitler only had a ball Every Hitler joke in this movie works. They keep going back. There's like eight of them. Yeah, but it was only 30 years prior You know, he's really interested in Hitler. Yeah, and then when that's going back down and Gosling's like vibrate I was like twitching who's like body flaws. I love how scared March gets at violence. Yeah Two more of the Nixon story When he finishes Let's the point they're two. I still get something. I just fucking say that And then they bring it back with a lot of the yeah, and then it pays off Nixon and pool. I don't know if this is a good podcast, but I'm having to Yeah, Gosling In the fake porn movie the auto weird auto show and It there's parts of this that almost feel like one of those SNL movies in the 90s like how kind of wraps up in problem Like Tommy boy. Yeah, it was kind of oh now our characters are a little elevated version of it, but it's effective So we all agree. It's the porn party. Yeah, but I would say if you want to know why this movie is so special It's the chat scene with the kid being like because I got a big Just loving us all right Just because it's like even that whole thing they're standing in the in the ashes of a burned-down house Gosling lights a cigarette and it's just like moving shit around and it's just like what am I doing here so annoyed? Yeah The most we have we have to change this to the most 1977 thing about this movie I think which includes a gas shortage killer bees in Brazil actually remember when that happened yeah Being little and being like hard. We're gonna get killed by bees. It was it was a thing that was a thing. Yeah, it was a real thing A killer with a mole named John boy. Yeah There's some sunset boulevard stuff including the tower records, which is gone But it was here when I moved in the comedy story comedy story Robert Klein And then the smog rallies, but I think it's John boy. I think it's the winner for this. Yeah Like Craig did you know who John boy was? Yeah, I would also go for a guy shaving in their cars hmm The walls was a massive show in the seventeenth. It's really hard to explain now. Yeah Um, I couldn't tell you one thing about it. Do you have your dad's family watch that I never watched my dad's family was like a big Walton's family Where did you were you ever an electric razor guy like portable electric razor guy? Yeah But the number of people who still will walk around just using those things in public It not in their cars so much, but in public spaces you would be shocked I like the idea of like doing a lot of shit in your car like using the the rear-view mirror because you're like I just live in here. I got to shape up a little bit. Go has a big electric razor A couple of times as far as the 2016 part. Yeah, we've got just like an r-rated comedy period Yeah, right like this year alone 2016. We talked about neighbors to pop star deadpool everybody wants some edge of 17 Swiss Army man sausage party bad moms Mike and Dave need wedding dates bridge of Jones's baby Keanu office Christmas party had to be single dirty grandpa nice guys We get maybe one of these Like it's just gonna it's all moved to a genre that doesn't really exist anymore So funny thing about all those movies you listen you listed my son was eight and then turn nine that year And I think we watched all of them because who's at that? I'm being dangerous with our rated comedy stage So this is how I saw all those movies. This is one of my backup Hottestakes was the action comedy is the thing the most people love that is the hardest to make The hardest to make well that I can count on one hand successful action comedies Over the last like you have to nail the one or two actors that are the weeds. It's it has to be really like this in pineapple express and I don't know. Can you think of any others of of this century? Oh, yeah of like act truly an action comedy Craig's working on a script right now of him and Bellany and Lucas going to the Oscars together and things go horribly wrong I think it's your own strike. Yeah, they need that third act. Yeah, get that down hot fuzz Yes, the and I would say the quarter true trilogy is right there. Yeah I think it'll come back because I think There's too many horror movies and none of the other guys right now Yeah, sure more comedy than you're an action right The other guys is hilarious We put that in the poll. It was we thought maybe I was hoping it might steal it. Yeah I mean, it might be the best like opening gag of any comedy in terms of yeah in terms of like the the misdirect of what that movie is going to be Do you think no like them jumping off of the roof top right right yes Again, unbelievable. The even mendez thing just is one of the funniest guys of the of the century. Yeah You're dressed like that The flick on dolly butter in my ass and lolly pops in my mouth the word for something. I just enjoy A great addition to the rewatch. You want me to throw the challenge flag because it's gone. Dolly Gondoli. Yeah, you said gondoli. You didn't bring the challenge flag We did this in the mailbag when I do a mispronunciation a reader wanted a listener wanted So you actually throw I think you would get really until if we started throwing flags you'd be like it. Fuck you I'd maybe two maybe the third one is I have for this My butter my ass a word I think it's better when you mispronounce gondoli flake gondoli. I think because I spelled it wrong Gondoli. Yeah Movies that organically end With the possibility that the main characters might reunite first sequel You know, but that's really every movie now. No, but it's right they do this in a way Where you're like is there a second one coming? What's happening? Yeah, it's not like Like neighbors. They didn't know neighbors two was happening when they made neighbors So they were like we learned our lesson. It's all over now. Yeah. Yeah. Um in this one It's kind of like if this does well. Do you want to do this in two years with where the vibes and it just didn't happen It's worth mentioning that the Research suggests that these guys read the script instantaneously. We're like, I'll do it if he does it Yeah, yeah, and that it was like a pleasure to make for the most part like it's so like it is a great shame that they never made another one And that the advertisement for their detective agency was so great Sorry, you look philipina We're Mexican Well, we never hear the research Where the guys like I'll do it if Rob does it. Yeah, then they got a rob and he's like Now I don't want to do it. Yeah, sure. No, no, thanks. Yeah, we never get like that in the research Did you have a a Gandoli award barely functioning alcohol a private detective? Yeah, it works every time Yeah, I had every time somebody in this movie trips holding a gun and just like shoot somebody. Yeah That's how it always works for a movie It's a great bit. Yeah, it's undefeated Special award. We don't get to give this too much the Robert Duval dress like a priest and swinging in invasion of the body snatchers award for bizarre Uncredited cameo. Yeah, Robert Downey is the dead guy. Yeah, sit sit at the bottom when he when he lights the I had no idea Did you guys notice? No, yeah, I knew it from but only from researching in the past of reading about the movie. Did you know this? I did not it's like unmistakable once you know it like of course that looks like Robert Downey, Jr Yeah, Shane black basically is the bridge to Downey the Downey Sons where he does kiss kiss bang bang with him does Iron Man three together Then they couldn't get him couldn't they get him like not you couldn't get him insured for kiss kiss bang bang It was very hard if they did the mid 2000s hard to do it. So if not for Shane black the Marvel Cinematic Universe never really has yes and nobody pushes back on Oppenheimer Well one thing with this if I'm gonna do an uncredited cameo and Rob's film I'm probably not doing one way I have to wear a ton of makeup. It is surprising Yeah, I'd rather just have been like the bartender like in the porn movie with misty mountains Yeah, just briefly you see me not like just covered with a gunshot wound and sitting outdoors for probably two days Yeah, you're doing it. It's fun about that. Yeah, you don't want to be the human statue I'm like I'm here and make up for six dollars. I would have said no to that one I would say it's the best. We mentioned 70s L.A. as a setting Young Margaret quality just what's happening in the last 10 years. It's fun to see her in this The don't say and stuff is just funny. Yeah, I don't know if that is that caught on in real life. I should have All right, maybe maybe the
there's still time. Marriage is buying a house for someone you hate. Remember that. (laughing) - Stuff. - Is there still time for high school yearbook quotes? We should probably throw that in there for the kids out there. Russell Crowe in the research claiming he put on some extra weight for Jackson Haley. - That's amazing. - I love that. That's like when Shaq would come back from the summer or the Lakers would be like, "I put on some extra weight, "I'm gonna lose it as the year goes a lot." - Yeah, that's good. - Okay, Shaq. - I lost my hair right when we went on video, because I thought it would be good. - Yes. - It's a good comedy. - A crow basing her in and doing anything for you. - It did not. I had to admit. - Oh, and she's coming up later. - Yeah, I love the original. This one, I don't know. - And then some hall of famed lines that we covered. Like, shut up unless you're me. I'm sorry, look, Filipino, and so on. And then there's a fantasy criteria orgasm in this where Gosling's doing Luke Castello with the. - Yeah. - Not being able to talk. That's like a famous 1930s gag. So would you have for what's interesting? - CD Los Angeles. So porn and strip clubs, dive bars, hotel bars. - It seemed awesome. - I loved the setup of the Burbank Airport Hotel, where it's like the flight deck bar. So there's like a dive bar in the first floor, but then there's also like a penthouse bar. - Yeah, it seemed like a lot of hotel bars, two movie theaters, adult bookstores, and just kind of creepy places. - Yeah, it's just a great rendition of it. I also really enjoy the runners that they have. So like the jokes that keep appearing in the movie. Number one being Janet. And just like how much everybody hates Janet. We're also like, is it Janet or Jessica? It's like God, Jessica's sister is a slut. - Jessica's sister's a slut, yeah. Also when they're trying to figure out a wake up Amelia, Jessica's like, we could just hit her really hard at it. Jessica's health and VP at this movie, to be honest. - But it's like, it's just really funny to hear Ryan Gosling talk about kids like they're adults, right? And so that is definitely-- - Well, that's a good one, say it's the best for this. Treating kids like adults in the 70s. 'Cause by the way, that's what we did in the 70s. - Yeah, she drives, his daughter drives her ass. - No one talks about it, the whole movie. - You would just have a 12 year old baby said five other kids and be out for six hours. - My other, what's age the best is Hannibal Burris is the killer B in the back seat, when he falls asleep while he's driving. - That's where he's fucking crazy. - It's really great. - Yeah, rap. Being suspicious of major corporations. - Yeah. - Maybe they don't have our best interests at heart. Possible. - So it's a big theme these days. - Did you guys feel like the catalytic converter Detroit layer of this movie was like, a little bit to, it's like putting a little bit too much garnish on the sandwich. It's really great. There's the missing girl, there's the porn stuff, there's all this like conspiracy, but then you add on Detroit automakers being the main villain of it. - Yeah. - It's all, you know, they're going for it. - Yeah, they are. - I like it because it perpetuates humor, right? Like because then you get to lean into the smog stuff, then you get the protesters with the gas mask. 'Cause like because they're poking fun at it the whole time, like that's why I think it works. - And you get Gosling saying, "We're all gonna be driving Japanese cars." - I guarantee it. - You have any of the Witsage best? Gosling himself. - I mean, like he was a star then, but he is something else now. - Yeah. - Great shot, Gorda. - Keith David hitting the pool deck. - Oh, and it just turns into red. - Yeah. - But just that overhead shot of Gosling and him falling, yeah. - It's like like that. Chest Rockwell, Brockliners were a best character name. We don't always give this out, but we do it. Misty Mountains and John Boy. Just a killer named John Boy was really smart. I like it. - And Misty Mountains is like, if you have to come up with a Christy Canyon. - Yeah, pretty easy. - What about poor Nukio? - Yeah. (laughing) - From, I mean, the man from the billboard himself. - Yeah. - This is him in the flow in the wood. Like it's not as known as the gross. (laughing) - Amanda Dobbins were for best piece of real estate. We don't get to give this out all the time, but Sid Shaddock's house was the Atlanta home of hip-hop producer Dallas Austin. - Yeah. - Wow. - Also featured at MTV Cribs. - So a true Dobbins award. - Yeah. - And Atlanta as LA. - Full scale Dobbins for this one. - And Cribs for this one. - I like Gosling's house too. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Kit Kuddy pursued a happiness where for best needle drop. We can either go with kiss, I want a rocket roll or a night or a miracle horse with no name. - Oh, I had to get down on it. The cool in the gang. - Yeah. - Which is the sound point. - Get the special band? - Yeah. - We'll get September at the porn party. Also, like Al Green closing credits. - Al Green closing credits is awesome. - Band's playing on the roof of a party is pretty cool. - Pretty cool. - What do you have for your flex? - Okay, so I have a couple. I'm gonna go with it's a book about Meadows Award for "Belatedly Best Quote" is at the Clean Air protest when Gosling goes, which one of you cocking balls with like 20 bucks? - I gotta wish you would just like walk out into the bullpen of the ringer and say that. (laughing) - Maybe our new "Sick of Our" studio. I'll just do that with some of Sean Ben. I brought my back and work goes to Gosling and he got game hooker scene, most awkward scene of somebody randomly walks in is when Holly is watching porn with the adult film actress. - Talking about anal. - Yeah. - Yeah, and stuff. - Yeah, and stuff. - Those are good. Butch's girlfriend award for "Week Link of the Film." - I don't know, I like this movie, I struggled. I came up with one, but I don't feel great about it. - Let's talk this out. - Yeah. - Does this movie better or worse or the same if Holly stays home for like half of the adventures that they go on? - So it's interesting 'cause I had her as the "Week Link" too, even though I like the performance. - I like the performance in it. - I had a different hang on it though. - Okay. - The incredibly savvy 13 year old girl with the heart of gold. It's a little bit of movie trope. - Yeah. - What's the purpose? - These people don't really exist. - I think the purpose is to nudge Healey, right? To nudge Russell Crowe's character. If she's not around, he's murdering everybody. - Sure. - They run into. And so like the turn of the heart of the movie, I think comes through her being there and him stopping. - It is weird that the two people she wants to save are John Boy and Bluffet. - He was just like, these two guys really almost-- - Bluffet tried to shoot her. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Would you have for "Week Link," did you have one? - I think this is Kim Bezinger. - I had her in a later category. - She's the one thing in this movie that's like a little off register that kind of takes me out of it. And it's like, clearly she can do the genre. But in this mode, in this kind of part, she sticks out a little bit. - It's tough 'cause you wonder whether or not she did like four days on the movie 'cause she's in two scenes basically. And they were like, yeah, here it is. And she had no idea how zany the rest of the movie was. - Yeah. - She's in it, honestly, you could give her, I had her for what stage to worse. You could give her in the, let's see what we have, the Judd Nelson, New Jack City. - In a different movie. - She's just, every time she's in the movie, it's another movie's happening. - Yeah, I think what makes it more noticeable is Tally. Yeah, yeah, it costs her. Like, she feels of a piece of everything that's happening. And so then the contrast between her and Kim Bezinger is just like that much more stark. - So jump it ahead, we can come back to this. But I had for a recasting couch trying to figure out who would have been a good Kim Bezinger in part for those. - Oh, good. - 'Cause I think, I do think it's gotta be somebody who's a little bit funny. But you don't wanna go like Sean Young, Ace Ventora like over the top. But I think it's gotta be somebody that's got a little sauce to them. - Okay. - She just doesn't have sauce. - Who's your idea? - I had a lot of trouble figuring it out. 'Cause it would have to have been, they wanted somebody like probably in their mid-50s at the time, right? But somebody that was famous. So it's somebody, it's really like Meryl Streep in the early 2000s. - You think Holly Hunter would be too old? Like, I don't mind that. - Holly Hunter's a good one. - Holly Hunter, Frances McDorman, not that Frances McDorman probably wouldn't be. - Honestly, Frances McDorman would be amazing. - She would be really good. - I had, I always feel like Diane Lane could have needed a part like this, but I also love Diane Lane, she might be wrong. Sharon Stone, I think was probably a little too old at this point in 2016, but in the mid-2000s, I think would have been really good. It's gotta be somebody who was sexy, older, but also had some comedy chops. - To me more? - I was wondering about it. Do we just, do we collapse the space time continuum and just make to me more Margaret Qualie's mom? - I wonder if she does something similar to what Pacing her does, so it's kinda like, yeah. - What kind of comedy has she done though? I don't know. - I can't think of that. - Would it be too meta to just do Andy McDowell? - Oh, Rob, like, it's right there. - Well, Rob, you did it. You redeemed yourself from the Nirvana episode. - Yeah, Andy McDowell can do comedy, yeah. - Oh, that's a great idea. Why didn't they do that? - I don't know. I mean, maybe this is at the point of Margaret Qualie's career where she doesn't want that too, but maybe if it happens now, you can see it. - Yeah, 'cause they've made a movie since together, since I think so. - I think so. - Yeah. - It's a really good point that it doesn't seem like Basinger knows what movie she's in. 'Cause she's just playing it straight and there's no extra sauce to it at all. - Yeah. - Just don't really get it. I don't get what they're trying to get on. - You also don't know when they filmed it. They could have filmed that scene earlier in the movie and then it got way zanier throughout the filmmaking. - 'Cause when you watch the behind the scenes, the making of even Matt Bomer who plays John Boy is like, this movie's fucking funny. Like, that's the thing that you gotta know about it. And Kim Basinger just seems to be like, you know, it's a very complicated story about LA and crime. I love Shane Blacks writing and it's like. - Yeah, she thinks she's in LA Confidential again. Any other What's H the Worst? I had trouble finding What's H the Worst 'cause I think this movie's age really well and it's also set in the 70s when it's supposed to age that. - The only thing I had was,
There is an element of dead if thieves downtown Atlanta to some of the exterior shots of LA. So like the vibe is always great, but sometimes you can tell like the streets are a little too narrow or there's too much, you know, like foliage in different places. Like when you're watching Den of Thieves, you can tell that's not Cardina and like, you know. - So you've seen Den of Thieves. - I've seen Den of Thieves, yeah. - And you shot this in downtown LA. - Do you have any would say jewelry? - It's a perfect movie. Hans Gruberscale, villain ranking. - Blue face is like a nine if he's really in it. - John Boy solid. John Boy I thought was like at least a seven and a half. - Let me ask you something though. John Boy, it's like. It's kind of like, are you expecting a little bit more a little bit of Darren Peterson vibes from John Boy? Where you're like, I'm hearing all about this guy getting off the plane from New York. He's the baddest motherfucker. - You have him, you've missed 200 shots. (laughing) - Yeah. - He doesn't miss a lot of shots. - He doesn't miss a lot. - He's taken out by two teenage girls pretty quickly. - I'm foxed. - But he is menacing. - Like he is creepy. And I say this with full acknowledgement. Like, I don't want to put this out there, but I literally have the same haircut as him. So it's not a great energy that we're putting out in the world. But he shows up and he's definitely, serves the intended effect. - John Boy. - Great, great name for a villain. - Ruffalo Hannah Rubin and Partridge over acting word. Blue face, dialing it up the whole time. - The whole time. - And then Kuala has that one monologue at one point. She's like, it's not a poor. - Just like starts screaming for some reason. So it's one of those, too. - Rob, you have a flex. - I do. I went with the Rick Sissetti guard meat award. Most memorable death by a security guard or other by a standard of the movie treats as inconsequential whereas the spouse and kids who love them. Specifically, there is a hard working out the actor out there in Hollywood. Got a job. It's not the best job, but it paid. They showed up. They're just trying to support their family. Your job is to be a tree man at this porn party on stills. - It's a tree man. - And you're just taking straight, like just takes a straight bullet to the chest. - Yeah. - On what otherwise was like a normal job. - Oh, fuck. - And your family. - Yeah. - If you have a mascot as you die or a helmet, whatever the fuck he's got on. - Imagine being that guy's wife who then has to explain. - Do you think he gets a sad card for doing that? - Identify the body. - Oh, my God. - That's a good one. We'll take one more break and then we got how to stake. - Imagine setting your makeup. Then forgetting it's even theirs. Meet new groupie setting mist from Maybelline, New York. Just plum, dewy, hydrated skin. That still feels like your skin. Try new groupie setting mist from Maybelline, New York. - Maybe it's Maybelline. - All right, the CR thinks Luke Wilson could have been Harrison Ford, how to take a word. Threatening to be renamed as the Nervana was overrated. Nervana thinks Nervana's overrated or what. What do you have for how to stake CR? - We should be actively awaiting the third movie of this series right now and not pining for it when people get interviewed for other movies that they're in. It's ridiculous. This is such an enjoyable movie. You could kick it ahead five years and do like 1982 nice guys. Like what are we doing? Why can't we make more movies like this and more movies? - So you could do mid 80s at least. You could do like Simpson Brookheimer, Hyde of the Cocaine Hollywood era just also run it back. - I can't remember the actual literal title, but they were like what we would do is go to Mexico. It would be nice guys in Mexico. Which would have just been like come on, man. - I'm still trying to decide who to blame. Like we know that Angry Birds are to blame, but I'm willing to back it up. Like Steve Jobs introduces the iPhone. - Seriously. - American civilization knows dives, including the creation of the games that become Angry Birds that then outgrow nice guys at the box office. - I think it's two, I think I blame neighbors too. - Yeah, it's neighbors too for a lot of stuff. God thinks so famous now that I just feel like he could say, "Hey, it's time I want to do nice guys too." Are they really saying no to that? - If you wanted to, he could. - Like a streamer is going to be like, "No, we're not funny." - I mean David Ellison now owns Warner Brothers who made this movie. Ellison, I feel like, be into this. - You think so? - Yeah. - Yeah, his taste seems to have improved enough. - David's got some edgy taste. - I think he likes buddy cops stuff. - He's like, "This jet joke was cool." - He's like, "Can we get the kid with the big dick again?" - What do you have for how to stake? - We talked about Gosling. - Yeah. - He's on fire in this movie. I think this is the best the Russell Crowe has ever been. Period. - No. - I'm sorry during CRMOT, I don't mean to do this. - What is the insider? - That is the-- - So that to me is the only real competition. - That take his-- - Sure, sure. - You're gonna be really good at this. - I'm really good at this. - So he is-- - Oh my God. - He is the action star of this movie. Like, he is in every fight. He is in every shootout. He is genuinely hilarious in terms of, like, he's getting a chance to play a role he's never allowed to play, which is this sort of comedic role. And he's the beating heart that like rounds out the whole movie and makes it to me a rewatchable. Like, if this is just depraved and funny, that's nice and you move on. But it's like, it does have a feel-good element that comes from him. And I think he is the piece that kind of brings it all together in a way that even Gosling doesn't. - It's hard for me to get too mad at that when I think proof of life was Susé Pextre. - Sure, interesting take though. I think what's missing is like, there was a time, like way earlier when, you know, he was a really handsome, like, leading man, but also like, gladiator Russell Crowe. - Yeah. - I just don't think there's a lot of people who could have been gladiator Russell Crowe. - You don't think so? - No, I don't. - I think he kind of gets dog walked by Joaquin in that movie to be honest with you. - Really? - Like, he's good. He's really good in it. - Dog walks? - Clearly in two scenes together. - He's not better true, he's like, who is owning the presence of that movie? He, like, isn't, look, a lot of it's just character. He's just playing a pretty straight forward, like heroes, journey, go and fight the big fight, like a vanger family, all of that stuff. - Right. - There's not a lot for him to do this exciting. And he holds it and he's good in it. And then, like, should he have won best actor for gladiator? - That's for that one or a beautiful mind? - He won for both, didn't he? - No, he only won one. - I think he won for gladiator. - Yeah, he won for gladiator. - I don't know, Maximus was pretty great. - Yeah. - Would you stand on this, Craig? - Are you gladiator, Craig? - Craig? - I'm closer to Rob on this, to be honest, about gladiator and Crow. - It's a traditional role. - Yeah. - It's a little limited. - It's a generational thing. I don't know. - I do think insider is, that's the one. - When he's like, if you're gonna pick something. - On my command, only Shell, you're not like, let's go. - Let's do it. - I'm like, let's go, but could you plug another actor and then say the same thing? I'd still be like, let's go? I think I would. - Could you, could you only won for gladiator? Not beautiful mind. - I feel like concepsing, I was gonna just dive through the window, right now, tech Rob. My hat-as-take was also Russa Crow related. I think he was the Shaquille O'Neill of Actors. Hall of Fame potential, you could see it early in the 90s. Like this guy, something's gonna happen. He even goes head-dead with Denzel. Career Apex from 2000 to 2002, just like Shaq. Three finals MVP's for Shaq. Three best actor nominations in a row and a win for Russ. - Crazy. - Should've won a couple more MVP's, kind of didn't totally want it. And the little sideways, couldn't really stay in a shape, which was like a Shaq thing. I think nice guys in the Miami title as the sidekick with Wade. - That's a really good one. Like a combo of that, and I still think he's a Pantheon guy from the last 50 years, but I feel like he left a little on the table. It's an 11-year run. I felt like it could've been larger. - He's this analogy out. That means last night, Russa Crow went live right after the Oscars. He was like, Michael B. Jordan made, could've done a little bit more and impressed me. Playing twins, I did that. I did that, and we didn't even have special effects. - You forgot budding musical careers too. - Oh, that's right. Very important part of it. - I had a little bit of the Billy Bob Thornton, like kind of more interested in rockin' out than acting maybe. - Who to blame him? - I know. - Castin Wittiffs. None. It's too early. The movie just came out. Would you really change that much other than bassin' her? - The big one was that the mailing the scripts to the two guys and then being like, "I'm in Ephesian," which doesn't really seem to happen that often. That's that guy word. For the casualist Keith David, Stealth, Bo Napp, who plays Blueface, he's one of those guys. I don't even know where he's from. - I had Lois Smith as the old lady with the coke ball glasses on Meg from Twister. - Yeah. - Oh, that's who that was? - Yeah. - That's a good one. I think Boat is Boon have not just doing Sasha Baron Cohen as Blueface. Is that not like the energy he- - I know what that means. - Every time this movie comes on, it's like a Sasha Baron Cohen in this movie. - Apparently not. - Dion Waiters, Muriel Tello as Misty Mountain's Blueface could keep going, but it's the little kids with a bit of deck. - James Lantz Valentine. - Is that what his name is? He's only in one scene, right? - Perfect Dion. - So, I created a new category, I just think no one knows how to open a movie and set the tone, quite like Shane Black, and it made me think of when Kobe Bryant clouted through Pogasol on the redeem team, which is like Misty Mountain's plowing through the home to start this movie. And if you go back and you look through Shane Black's movies, leave the weapon starts with the naked stripper committing suicide off the hotel. That's Boy Scout starts with the football player pulls out the pistol, shoots the guy before scoring the touchdown, and you have this movie. So I think it's the Kobe Bryant shoving Pogasol award for the best tone setting, opening move, and Shane Black has the belt right now. - Wow. - He's also just like, if you read his scripts, they're grab you by the little pal. - Yes. - Keep reading. - Also, I love one in opening scene, I guess this is my Gondoli. I love one in opening scene has characters that aren't involved with the rest of the movie. - Oh, yeah. like a tight, it's like.
like a cold package. Yes. Yeah. There's so many of those throughout this movie too, like the two women who walked by the porn party being like, well, if you wanted me to do that, you shouldn't eat in the asparagus. It's just like that's happening constantly in this movie. Straight at it. Half-fessing in research. Not a lot at this point. We had the Atlanta thing. Russell Crowe said it was one of two films where he wished there was a sequel. He said this on Howard Stern. The other was LA Confidential, which ironically we were doing next week in the rewatchables. An intentional that this happened. The book, Holly, we was reading from, is called a "Cat Among the Pigeons" by Agatha Christie. That was really all. Otherwise, we mentioned. I did like you mentioned the Abankastelo thing earlier with Gosling. The part of that I liked was the reason he got into Abankastelo is because his parents wouldn't pay for blockbuster. So the only movies he could get were from the public library found Abankastelo. Interesting. Apex Mountain Crow, I guess for Rob and nobody else. For me personally. Gosling with this in Lalla Atlanta, I think we're here. This is the definition of it, right? It's not quite Wang Chong Apex Mountain, but it's Apex Mountain. Again, I'm prepared to leave. You missed the Wang Chong combo in the last episode. I'm just confused by this category. Regardless of any Wang Chong happening. Wang Chong's 1985 was the all-time Apex Mountain. That's ever happened. Yeah. Yeah. It's the Apex of Apex Mountain. It's now Wang Chong's Apex Mountain, like the so-fi stadium. I'm glad for the branding. Does he not have more cachet post-barbie than after a while? This gets into what kind of Apex Mountain? What kind of mountain do you like being on? Is it when it seems like it's all out in front of you or you're just at the height of your earning potential? In the mailbag, we had a mathematician right in about the post-Apex. You've still got it combined with maybe you were higher but it wasn't quite Apex mountain, but it was like you actually, it was like the career in 2002, basically. Yeah. So Barbie was probably that for Gosling. Do you think you'll go see Project Hill Mary? My son wants to see it, so it's in play. Okay. But then he'll be like, yeah, I saw it less than with my girlfriend. Sorry. What's the whole of it? Just the sci-fi. That's what's keeping you out. No, I want to see it. There's really good buzz on it. Yeah. You haven't seen it, right? I'm seeing it tonight. Nice. Two hours and 45 minutes. Oh, look at the big boy. What does he say? Look at the drink. Freed up. Freed up. Freed up. Freed. Man, I fucked that up. Apex mountain for 1977. Just in general, as the greatest hero we've ever produced as in the world. I was born that year. Yeah. For a great year. Star Wars. Pretty good stuff. Reggie Jackson. Yeah. Keith David fight scenes. Sadly, no. It's still they live. Wasn't it him and they live? No, that was about him. Is David Brooks? It turned in the in the alley. Did I just do the thing where I confuse Keith David and David Brooks? Wait, Keith David is in there. Yeah, Keith David's in there. It was Keith David. Well, just look at me. Look, I was crazy. I didn't. Keith David and Rodney Piper. It was him. Mill, not me. First of all, I didn't say that you said I can guess yourself. Yeah. I said, guess myself. If Keith David and they live, Keith David is still the winner. Yeah. Yeah. Shame black. Probably. No, Iron Man 3. I mean, Iron Man 3, but nothing kind of happened after that. I would say writing lethal, one of the lethal weapons being like one of the most successful weapon one is his apex mountain. I think in Gary Rice. I hope not. Yeah. Too early to say. Quality too early to say. Dad, daughter movies probably not. No, basing or no. The 1978 auto show, I think it might have been for sure. Yeah. Not a lot of talk about that show other than this. John Boy in the Waltons, probably still the Waltons, which was the number one show for more than the nice guys. Yeah. Yeah. Breaking a window going wrong might have been the might have been the peak. I can't think of another example. His funny as it gets for sure. 1967 Red Mustangs with a wake convertible top. Yep. For a movie. Pretty good. Retro porn portraits. Boogie Nets. Yeah. Cruiser, Cruiser Hanks. Cruiser as John Boy. Like. Oh, interesting. He just shows you don't you don't see a bad wig. He has like five lines. Or even better if he would play Shadok. Yeah. Cruiser, one of these supporting parts who you hear about and then just shows up. I would. Hanks have been Russell Crowe's character. I had Hanks for Holland March at a different time in his life. Oh, it's kind of like right after ladies. Yeah, ladies. Yeah. Yeah. He could do that. I like Cruz for John Boy. I think that has my vote. I can be fun. You down with that Greg. But the official winner we're saying is Hanks for a lead role. In terms of a lead role. Scorsese or Spielberg, clearly Scorsese. Yeah. Definitely. Way more coke at the party. Yes. And we probably would have, I don't know, tops from the Rolling Stones. No, no daughter, because you just want to get way darker way more fucked up. Yeah. Has Spielberg ever done something like as getting his hands dirty as this? I can't think of anything. Best tang, worst tang. I mean, ironically, Gosling's daughter in this movie is probably the best tang of all these people. Blue face is the worst thing. Blue face tough cross country drag. Blue face would be awful. I would spend the night hanging out with with Gosling in a bar. That'd be a lot of fun. I don't hang out with Amelia. Like I am one legal substance away from being very on board. Her like big speech about her mom and like, man, man, it's her God. Yeah. I'm on board for that. Worse tang, chat, chat. I like chat. Talking about the projector. I'm in the industry. I'm a projectionist. I'm a projectionist. Come on, guy. Picking it. 13 year old kids driving. I'm not even sure this was happening in 1977, especially with manual steering. Yeah, that was. That would have been tough. Do you have that upper body strength to control a car like that? That's a choice. How did Amelia land on their car and not like die immediately? How far did she fall? She said questions about that. The camera kind of pans up. There's a fire escape. She climbs down. She climbs down and hops down. She jumps. Yeah. That's probably like 15 foot jump. But she's putting a lot of mileage in this movie barefoot. Yeah. Like just running all over the city. And I think that dress is probably a lot more banged up after three days. I think there's probably some coffee on it and all kinds of things. How did they so easily get into Misty Mountain's house a couple days after the murder? And why was all the evidence just still sitting there? Well, they have her ant with them. Yeah. I know. But wouldn't they have picked up like specific evidence of people that were in her life and brought it to or did that just not how they did in 1977? I mean, there was a handwritten note from chat just sitting there. Yeah. Wouldn't they have brought that into the station? Also gets into just a complete absence of cops in this movie. They showed a couple times. Way after the fact and never detaining that's true. Jackson and March despite the fact that there's like seven dead bodies. How do they never go to prison in this movie? I don't know. That could have been nice guys three. Go in a jail. He can't smell. They joke. I did you know what a nose me I was? I did not. Was that real? I who knows if that's real or not. But his daughter kind of says this is why mom died because he couldn't smell the gas leak. Yeah. But you can't smell gas leak. I don't think. I still enjoyed it. To me, that's the very like Gremlins to my dad died coming down the chimney as Santa. Kind of like weird anecdote into tragic backstory that I can definitely appreciate. I have one more. But did you have any nipics? No, we kind of hit most of them with but stage the worst. I think that the thing I would nip pick the most at is the slightly like convoluted plot. Like that kind of thing with like obviously she saw the movie that they were watching, which means there's another movie, which means we have she was watching it on the wall. I think heely pulling together the whole case because he saw a suit on a rack in the office that one time. Yes. It's like maybe a bit much, but it feeds into something I really like about this movie, which is they basically never catch a break because they're good. They basically always catch a break because they're lucky. Like a million literally falls on their car. And that kind of stuff is happening constantly. And there's there's a lack of heroism in the movie in the sense that like they don't save a million. No, she's very unceremoniously dispatched by a job. That was one of the things I liked was it's it's really a shocking when she gets shot. Yeah. But is that kind of movie? Yeah. It's the kind of movie where not only is she going to get shot, it's not going to cut away. Like, you were just going to see her in cold blood getting murdered and left in the street. It's also good because it in it. It makes like angry racist character being present for all of it a little bit more dangerous because like that can happen retroactively. Yeah. This is my big one. Correct. This is this is why I'm a Hall of Famer. This next pick. Gosling twice in the movie is in a body of water. And then smokes a cigarette like five minutes later. Those cigarettes are wet. Yeah. Not lighting. No chance. Oh, it's you pack. Yeah. It's packing his pocket. Done. Yeah. It's a wrap. That thing's not lighting. So he's in the tank with the mermaids. But he's like in boxers in that. What's the second body of water? When he falls into the pool. Oh, the pool gets out. One is cooked. There's no fucking way. He's lighting the cigarette. Yeah. So all that whole packs of a wrap. It's all there are soggy. They're falling apart. But they'll sometimes sometimes we need the cigarette consultancy company. You just win. Yeah. That's true. So that's just way. And also he can't die. Yeah. That's the revelation. Sequel prequel prestige. TBR by Castor Untouchables. So the idea you mentioned Chris was nice guys to Mexican detectives. Yeah. That's what Crow and Gosling wanted to do. Billion dollar idea. Come on. I also would accept if they just did this the way that Netflix did Sherlock where it's just like once every like three or four years. They just do a three-episode thing. That would be awesome. Well, this has happened a couple of times in movies. And I'm pretty sure it happened in Anchorman because I don't think Anchorman crushed it at the box office. But then became beloved over the next couple of years. To the point where we're like, why don't we do Anchorman too? That'll fucking crush. Yeah. This happened with Austin Powers too. Sure. The first one did okay. It wasn't great. But became a cult movie and then and then too was a monster. I would just
- This guy's too would just be bigger. - It would be, but I would worry if this point, Crow might be a little longer, a little longer in the tooth to do it. - I think the only reason that could work is 'cause it is kind of the movie. Like they're so run down that however many years passed before they make it, it could kind of fit who these guys are. - It's kind of sacrilege, but could you do this and not have them as the partners? - I don't think it's the same. - Could you have Gosling, could you have Crow like retired, getting sucked back in, but there's a new partner and there's three people on that too? - No, I don't think it works. - I hope not. - That's exactly what they would do. They would put a younger person in them. - I don't know. - Who's in it? - Who's, who's the young, is this, is this like a mile? - I wish I didn't bring this up. (laughing) - Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins, Fergie the Flores, Zayn Low, Robert Lozier, or anybody else? What do you think, CR? - Zayn Low, interview and John Boy. - Man, good journey here from New York City. Everybody's talking about it here in the streets of Los Angeles. You're named after a Walton character, but what are you going to do to forge your own character? (laughing) - Sure, you have a mole. - Sure, and that, some people would look at it as a handicap, but man, it's your power. I see that as your power. Again, South African. I can't stop making Zayn Low South African. - Maybe we should have you as Leo and Blood Diamond as Zayn Low, maybe he's just combining the two. - Get this one in your mouth. - I don't know what to say, it's really something. Is Blood Diamond a re-watchable for you? - Didn't we do Blood Diamond? - We did it. - 20 year anniversary. - What did we say, yes, we did. - Yeah, we have. - Yeah, we've done Blood Diamond, dude. - We have. - 'Cause the eighth thing. - Are you sure we did it? - Yeah, we had a whole conversation about whether he's HIV positive in this movie. - Hold on, I gotta find out when we did it. Because-- - Spoiler alert. - Yes. - Blood Diamond. - Definitely yes. - We definitely did it. - It's June 2023. - This is so in the bill zone of, like, I don't remember this. - No, but I usually don't remember, oh, I usually don't remember 2000 in 2021 because of the COVID vaccine. - Sure. - But I had 23, I remember. - Not 'cause you chose to podcast eight times a week during COVID. - What else are we gonna do? - Be with our family. - Well, we did that three years ago. Who do we do it with? - I think it might've just been you and me one for us. - It was, yeah. - Well, I'm gonna have to listen to that. - That sounds great. - I think I remember Sean's face when I told him we were doing Blood Diamond, and he's like, "Cool." - Like, bummed out he was not in it or thought it was. - It was not. - It probably was a little bit of both, but he was, and then I remember telling him, like, "Yeah, Bill and I really tried to unpack whether Danny Archer has HIV in that movie." And Sean was like, "Cool." - Glad I skipped that one. - Yeah, now I remember it. - Yeah. - Which is so many podcasts for really are. - Then 427, 28 rewatchables, talking about Joil on beat and Luca, whether he can put it together and bam out of bioscoring 83 points. - And all points together after a while. - What was the most name checks non-seltics player on the rewatchables, do you think? - That's a really good question. - Joil, I feel like, might be up there. Just for the antagonist. - For the jokes. - For the jokes. - You're just priding podcasts. - He brings it up once a month where he'll just be like, "Oh yeah, this would be like, if NB could actually play a five-game intro." - Honestly, probably Jordan, right? - Yeah, I guess so. - Like I mentioned, different, like Jordan, kind of parallel some things. - Makes sense. - Makes sense. - Some day we'll have AI, and we'll just be able to ask AI, and it'll just listen to every rewatchables in one second, and then be like, was actually Shaquille O'Neill with nine actual-- - And the AI will speak like Roger Ebert. - Yeah. - Will speak like full name and guy crossed with Zayn Lowe. - Yeah. - Just one asker who gets it. - Gosling. - Gosling. - Script? That's probably the second. - It's really good, but I think a lot of what's great about this movie are his reactions. There's moments that wouldn't really jump off the page like when they go to the dive bar in the hotel, and they are like, you know, have you seen Amelia, and he's just like, I just work here. He's like, yeah, I know that's why I'm asking you. (laughing) That's not like a hilarious thing on the page, but it's so funny like the way they do it. - He also chases every lot. Every time that character thinks they're being smart, he like winks at somebody, or does like a little eyebrow raise. It's like, he sells everything so hard and so well. - Do you like my friend? - He's wearing-- - I made it myself. - He's got a shirt. - So, Casey Affleck wins for Manchester by the sea that year, Gosling nominated for La La Land. The other three were Denzel and Fences. Vigo Bortonson and Captain Fantastic. - Get him out. - What happened? - Do you want to go double Gosling? - Double Gosling. - Or Andrew Garfield and Hacksaw Rich. - And we were just-- - That one can go to-- - What a drought. - Yeah. - That was like when Paisier Stackovick was fourth in MVP that one here. (laughing) - Let's get Paisier numbers though. - Let's get Paisier out. - Paisier's in the conversation. - Paisier's out. - Where does his kid go? - Isn't his kid playing now? - Yeah, he's playing somewhere. - And Colin is going to have one or something. - So could Gosling potentially have been nominated twice? And is that ever happened? - I know it has. - I don't think anyone's been in the same category with two movies. - Did Leo not? - Did he not for-- - Wasn't Blood Diamond and catch me if you can? - No, it wasn't Sameer. - Was the parted in-- - Or is the parted in Blood Diamond? - Did he not get double nominated for those? - Was the same year? Is that-- - That would have been 2007? I think what's, it's happened a few times where somebody's gotten best and supporting. - Yeah. - But not too best. - The most recent Scarlett Johansson, Marriage Story and Jojo Rabbit was lead and supporting. - Yeah. - Leo only got one there here. - Okay. - Did you find out where Paisier's story actually just kid goes to college? - I think it's Illinois. - Oh, is it? - I don't know, I'll come around. It's your O7 best actor and a supporting role. Alan Arkin won, Jack Earle, Hailey and Little Children. - Yeah. - Diamond Hunsu and Blood Diamond. Eddie Murphy and Dreamgirls and Mark Wahlberg in the departed. - Yeah. - Fucking Lace Gang. - Gang of motherfucker. (laughs) - We need to do the re-rear departed too. Apparently I can't remember any podcast we've done. Probably an answerable questions. How long did the nice guys agency keep going before Jackson, Healey, died of a massive heart attack? - Right, or like two years later. - Or two years later. - He gets his child taken away by protective services. - Who's the imminent? - Did we have protective services in the way it's happening? - You sprayed it on us. - Yeah, I don't, I don't feel like we did. Oh, I was left alone for four, five hours a day. - I just found out relatively recently about kids being in car seats until there are certain weight now instead of age. So it's like you could be in a car seat until you're like seven or eight, right? - Theoretically, that seems extreme. - I was like rolling around the back of a Pontiac when I was like three, like, you know, like. - And you turned out great, yeah. - I told Rob when we did the mail back from my pond, I wanted to put Con in a car seat. I didn't want him to get hurt, but he's huge. - Yeah. - Couldn't really do it. (laughing) I used to, my dad would drive me home from school sometimes and I would get to sit like on his lap on the scene in front of him and drive. - Yeah. - And then one time I looked down and noticed his hand was on the bottom of the wheel when he was really driving. - Sure. - And I was like, fuck, I thought I was driving. - Yeah. - So all the time, I was like five. - But can you imagine seeing anyone do that now where there's this little kid driving 30 miles an hour in the front seat with the steering wheel like right there? But that's what we did in the seventies. - If it was to give it the big dick from the back end, let it go. - So a mail bag that we did, that Rob didn't hear yet 'cause we haven't run it yet, but it was before this podcast. - We changed the memorabilia question slightly to secret handshake memorabilia from the movie. - Oh. - So it's still the memorabilia from the movie, but it's an item that you have to really love the movie to get. - It's like a Misty Mountains poster. - That would be good. - Yeah. - Or maybe people would get that too easily. - Well, a poster for how do you like my car, Big Boy? My personal one, which is a little bit more on the memorabilia side, but I kind of, if anybody knows, please email. I think they may have made it for the movie is the Navy Blue Mesh Bat Dodgers hat that Gosling wears for the two scenes when he punches the window and when he's at the hospital. - You can use custom merch. - I can't find the Navy Blue Dodgers Mesh Hat 70s or otherwise. Maybe I'm wrong. Interesting. - What do you have for this wrap? - Secret handshake one is tough 'cause yeah, there's not a lot of signature items. I would go for the pink cow posted notes, which I'm gonna then send to everyone I know. Anytime I have an important flight/hotel room to mark on a piece of paper, we're in business. - I would love, if you, it would be great if you could get a blowup poster of the Jackson and Holland's Detective Agency ad. - Oh yeah, they'll be good. - In all of its Filipino or maybe Mexican glory. - That's right. Coach Finstack, Mr. Miyagi, we're for Best Word's Life Lesson, which people want, at least one person wanted to be Coglin's law from cocktail, which I guess this could be a Coglin's law. Sometimes you just win, you do. - About sometimes there's two ways to look at something. (laughing) Best double feature choice. - Would you go shame back? - So I had just because it also brings in the Detroit part of a crime film is no sudden move, which is the Steven Soderberg movie from a few years ago with Don Chew. - Yeah, that's a great one. "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" feels too easy almost. I like that angle. I would almost go like drama comedy. Like let's do like a Michael Clayton or a Pelican breed. - Another like corporate conspiracy kind of movie like that. - "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" chat is Val Kilmer, so no. - Jack Kilmer. - Jack Kilmer. - I have the other guys. I would have this first than the other guys. - Okay. - So I can just do guys that night. - Guys night. - The other guys that I read and the other guys. And then we have Gosling win in the movie. - We do. - I think he has to. - Yeah. Craig.
like you wanted this for a while. - Yeah. - This is just an all-timer for me. Probably, I think it's the best comedy of the last 10 years, since 2016, not that there's a ton it's competing against. But I love to leave the web in movies, which you guys introduced me on the rewatch polls. And like you said, the dark action comedy, buddy cop comedy, I think is my number one favorite genre in movies. This movie in particular strikes a really delicate tone. It's pretty impressive that they kill Margaret Qualley. Jessica gets thrown through a glass window, and there's no love interest in this movie, which I really like. - Except for Tally, briefly. - Right. - Just like, hold up, I'm writing this down for him. - Yeah. - I was like, which he walked through, he's like, "You look great." - Yeah. - And then she throws a pair of scissors and Holly's hair, but I don't know. - I love that. I love that it's just like about these two gods, there's no kiss at the end, it's perfect to me. I rewatch it every couple of years. Everybody I've watched it with likes it. It's just universally beloved. Fuck angry birds. - I love that it can end too. Like, Gosling, Welling Up, Tears in His Eyes, holding up the film reel. And it's like, sometimes you do just win. Like, again, it's inexplicable, it's indefensible, but they looked into it. - We never did the what happened the next day with the film reel. - Like, do they ever do anything with it? - Like, was it a huge story? Was it a national story? - Well, they say no one plays. - Kim Beasinger didn't face any consequences. Or she gets sent to prison, but the companies don't aren't held live. - Well, we should discuss this. The entire plan of making a porn movie that has a message in it to show-- - Yeah, it hits it all. - Well, it's just a commercial element. - It's a horrible plan. I mean, just like, you have the information sent it to like a news station. - Right. - You'd expect it like sometime in '77, they're still riding high off Watergate. - 'Cause they ask about David. 'Cause Nixon's still in office. - And they were like, go to the cops. And she's like, my mom is the cops. It's like, okay, you could find a journalist out there who would take a story and write about it and blow it up in the LA Times. - They do ask her. - And she says that they control the media, too. - I like it because it's from the perspective of like, stoned out Margaret Wally Logic. That's the only mechanism that can solve this problem. - It's also the movie takes-- It's not like the message is in the very beginning of the porn movie either. Like, you have to kind of sit down and watch it. - Yeah. - Which also makes no sense. But I do love the line. They made a porn where the plot is the point of the movie. - Yeah. - That's great. - This was like the last era where they were making porn films where they're actually kind of go for it with the plot. - Yeah. - And with how they filmed it and actually spending money on it. Which as Boogie Knight's covered, where Jack Horner is like really trying to make movies. - And the idea that anybody is like an experimental filmmaker who's also doing these things. - Ironically, we were text about this yesterday about porn. - The New Bev Cinema. - That's right. - Oh, short. Yeah, literally. - They're showing these like porn noir Friday nights or Saturday nights at midnight. They were showing some movie. I thought it was a joke, but it was real. And I texted them and Vance like, "Yeah, they've been doing it all month." - I'm not going to name any names. We do have a colleague who has attended some of these out of experimental curiosity. - It is funny how you, like Van was like kind of getting irritated where he's like, "You guys all treat me like a freak, "but you know as much as I do." - Dude, I started three porn scandals at us. Yeah, so I'm going to guess that's a mostly male crowd. - Couldn't tell you. - No, it wasn't it like, didn't somebody say it was like couples or something like that? - Yeah, no. - Van, yeah, it must have been Van. - No way, that's true. That's 40 guys by themselves and two couples would be the audience. - No, it's a really important piece of civic history. - Well, we're almost done with CR month, CR. - Yeah, one more. - Any, I've started to think big picture with this month meant to you and the love from the fans. - I'm curious to see how you use me going forward. You know, from a coaching perspective. You know, like you now, do you take me down a peg or two? Do you ice me? What do you do next with me? - What do you mean? - I've done like 70 to 75% of the episodes of that. - Now I'm riding high, so do you. - Well, first of all, I like that we save some for the next CR month because when, you know, we have a year to play in this now with the festival and, you know, the merch, all that stuff. - The guy, you can hire the guy to play the tree. - You're right. The guy at the $20 big dick guy will have him there of all the characters of some of these movies. - But yeah, we left, we left Hunter on for me. He had for October, for October, yeah. - Nice. - Maybe October, maybe we just don't do it in October. Who knows? - Okay, yeah. - Who knows if we'll do it or not? - I'm just worried for you, Chris. - Are we saved aliens as well? - Oh, thank goodness. - Those were the two that they didn't, that you talked about the most. There's been other ones, but those have been, other than the ones we've already done this one. - If you want to know, like the other contenders were all, like basically up in the brackets that we just did. - I've noticed, I don't always go into the comments, but I did for the Instagram vote. And some people were like, "Fuck yes, a sorcerer." You mother fucker, a sorcerer has to win. Like people are angry that anyone is voted for anything out of the sorcerer. - I think sorcerer is a passionate, passionate family. - Those were the CR heads. The true CR heads, those are sorcerer heads. - Are you a sorcerer guy? - Yes, but not as a whole personality. - I don't know how I missed it for 50 years. - It's a real, a film nerd new class. - No, I get it. - Film row new class. - It's like, obviously in my willhouse, I just, even the great ones get as good as it looks now though. - Is that what it is? - 'Cause I saw it at New Beverly and it was, it was still a pretty beat up print and everybody was really pumped about it, but like, it's been a while, it took a while for it to look as good as it looks. - Was that a more male audience than the porn New Beverly screening you saw? (laughing) It was a double feature so it was hard to tell. - They should put that when they tweet out the movie that they should have an audience survey after what the demo was. - Yeah. - Like I wonder if they've ever got 100% dudes. Henry Porcher, the Syruco, or like that kind of guy. - Oh, I can eat some movies with all the percent dudes. - Yeah. - The 100% dude. - Definitely soldado. (laughing) - Yeah, yeah. - That's like, if the Ringer fan is a football show demo every time I look at it, that's like, nice stuff. - I watched this soldado again after we did a, - It's not bad. - Sicario. - I'm not gonna, I'm gonna withhold judgment during C. Art Month. - It's not bad. - It's not bad, it's tough. It's got some moments. - Yeah. - 2033, we're still kicking around. We're looking for movies to do. - 2033, very possible. Robin Honey, thank you. C.R. A pleasure, so is Craig. Go have, thank you. Back and rewatchables next week. LA Confidential, which is on Netflix. - Yes. - Yeah, yeah. - Is it? - I don't know. - Sure, I think it is. LA Confidential is on it. - Yeah, go ahead, check. - Yeah, so, and if not, then we'll have to edit this out into a separate piece of it, but LA Confidential coming next week for C.R. Month. And don't forget, we did the mailbag if you missed it last week as well, so. - Yeah, no, it's on there. I'm confident. LA Confidential, Netflix. - It's not. (laughing) It's not, it's not on there. - No, it's on Amazon Prime. (laughing) - Damn it. We did just get acquired by Amazon Prime, so that'll be fine. - There you go. - Okay. - All right. - LA Confidential, not on Netflix. Thanks everybody.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The podcast discusses *The Nice Guys* as a beloved 1970s-inspired rewatchable, praising its humor, chemistry, and nostalgic setting.
Ryan Gosling delivers a standout performance, particularly in his comedic, vulnerable, and physically absurd moments, which stand out as a career highlight.
The film’s success lies in its sharp dialogue, physical comedy, and iconic scenes like the bathroom pants-down moment and the kid’s “I have a big dick” scene.
The movie is celebrated as a perfect blend of 70s-era satire, with its gas shortage, smog, and car culture, evoking a sense of freedom and absurdity.
Shane Black’s writing is lauded for its cynical worldview, clever plot twists, and genre-blending action-comedy structure.
The film features memorable ensemble performances, including Russell Crowe’s physicality and a standout supporting cast like Keith David and Kim Basinger.
The episode highlights the film’s cultural impact, noting its influence on the genre and its status as a cult classic despite mixed initial reception.
A major takeaway is the contrast between Gosling’s willingness to embrace vulnerability and the broader industry’s reluctance to take comedy risks.
Summary:
The podcast celebrates *The Nice Guys* as a compelling, rewatchable film that blends 1970s nostalgia with sharp satire and physical comedy. Central to its success is Ryan Gosling’s breakout performance—marked by humor, vulnerability, and absurdity—particularly in scenes like the bathroom pants-down moment and the 12-year-old’s “I have a big dick” line. The film’s setting, rooted in 1970s LA with gas shortages, smog, and a carefree, chaotic vibe, enhances its charm and authenticity.
Shane Black’s sharp, cynical writing delivers a layered plot that evolves across viewings, with witty dialogue and iconic set pieces like the porn party and the “shut up unless you’re me” game. The chemistry between Gosling and Russell Crowe, along with standout supporting roles, adds depth. The discussion also highlights the film’s cultural significance, noting its influence on action-comedy genre and its status as a cult favorite.
The episode praises Gosling’s fearless embrace of comedy and vulnerability, contrasting it with today’s more polished but less daring performances. While some characters, like Kim Basinger’s, feel out of place, the film’s overall energy, humor, and nostalgic tone make it a standout. It’s presented as a modern classic that embodies the spirit of 70s American cinema—loose, irreverent, and full of life.
The rewatchable nature of the film is reinforced by its recurring jokes, physical gags, and the enduring appeal of its characters and world.
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The film's unique blend of 1970s LA setting, sharp humor, and iconic physical comedy makes it highly rewatchable. Its memorable lines, absurd characters, and quotable moments like the 'shut up unless you're me' scene continue to resonate with audiences.
Gosling delivers a hilarious and fearless performance as a loser detective, embracing comedic absurdity and physical comedy. His portrayal stands out for its authenticity and vulnerability, showcasing his range beyond romantic roles.
The 1970s setting provides a nostalgic, vibrant backdrop with elements like gas shortages, porn parties, and retro cars. It enhances the film’s humor and authenticity, capturing a specific cultural era with a sense of freedom and excess.
The movie seamlessly blends action sequences with satire and humor, using absurd situations like a 'porno party' and a fake detective agency to create a comedic tone that feels both grounded and over-the-top.
Key scenes include Gosling’s bathroom moment with pants down, the kid on a bike with the big dick, the fake porn party, and the 'shut up unless you're me' game. These moments are rich with humor and physical comedy that stand out across viewings.
The film was directed and co-written by Shane Black, a master of the buddy comedy genre. His sharp scripting and cynical worldview are evident throughout the film, contributing to its enduring appeal.
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