The Mutilated Musician - Kawaihae, Hawaii

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Get yourself patreon. And that's that. I think it's time to sit back. Everybody, what do you say here? Let's all clear the lungs here, you know. Arms to the sky. Yeah. Let's all shout. Shut up and give me murder. Let's do this. Everybody. Let's go on a trip. Shall we? Where are we going? Some place nice. Yeah. We are going to-- oh, man. Kauai. Kauai. Hawaii. Hello. Hawaii. Yeah. We've been in different places. But we're going to Hawaii. It's been a long time. Got them. I'm butchering that pronunciation. Yeah. I understand how to do that language. That's one of those where I'll say, how do you pronounce this? Someone will say it to me and then I can't repeat it back to them. It's the crazy thing. Where the mouth does not make the noise correctly. It's like Native American, like to hold an autumn or some shit like that. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard. It's so hard. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard. It's so hard. This is K-A-W-A-I-H-A-E. Kauai. Kauai. I don't know. Not with. I don't know. It's on the north side of the big island. Hawaii. Hawaii's the big island. It's the southernmost of the islands and this is on the north side of the island. So this is the dry side of the island. There's a dry side of the left side. How do you have that? Not sure. I think because one side has mountains because there's volcanoes there. I know. There's lava soaps and all that. And then on the other side. The weather. Yeah. So the weather with the volcanic shit cuts down the humidity. I have no idea. You're asking the wrong guy now. What do that? I got to know about murders and comedy and legal shit. I don't know. Meteorology is really-- Let's get weather patterns involved. Yeah, that's-- I don't know anything about it. So-- but on the north side of the island, the dry side. Now, I tried to do like the time we do drive times in Hawaii is a totally different thing. So-- That's rough. To our last episode, which by the way was so long ago, episode 474. This is 706. It's been-- It's been 300 shows. Over two years since we've done an episode in Hawaii. That was in Hanna, Hawaii. That was Twin-powered craziness. Remember the twins that did like yoga stuff? The twin blonde ladies? That was crazy. Yeah, it was-- Oh. We've only done like three here. We've done like four or five episodes, I think. Yeah. So this is Tihanna. It's a 40-minute flight to another island, followed by a three and a half hour drive from the airport to Hanna. So that's how to get there. This is in Hawaii County, area code 808, population that's all of Hawaii's 808, population here 742, not money. This is not a real tourist spot. This is kind of a local spot. Well, it's not tropical because it's dry. I mean, it's still Hawaii and nice, but it's not-- It's not constantly raining. That's the thing. Because it's some of Hawaii's like a rainforest kind of, it rains all the time. Do they have desert? They can't have desert, right? I don't know if it's like desert, but it's dry. Of course, enough. Yeah. A median household income here, about 97,500, which is well above the national average. That's 69. You could meet it. Yeah. Well, here are the median home cost, $444,700, which for Hawaii is low. That's not bad. This is not a real, hugely desirable area. You know what I mean? It's not like Maui or something. It's not that kind of place. But it's nice. We're very close. Fucking Lincoln, Nebraska. It's very nice. Exactly. History of this town, a little bit here of history, basically, well, there's the King Kamehameha stuff here, where his rival cousin arrived here, and then his cousin's many followers were killed and sacrificed to fulfill the cousins were? Yes, to fulfill the prophecy and gain spiritual power. That's the king. This event somehow paved the way for a bunch of Kamehameha's conquests leading to the unification of the Hawaiian Kingdom in 1810. So I guess he's any rival leader, including his cousins, he's going to cut that out. There's like something you would do. Anybody that comes to visit, you'd just sacrifice. Sacrifice? Like Vlad the Impaler? Yeah. To come to my house. Well, I wouldn't invite you to be sacrificed. That's the thing. You show up on an ounce. That's a whole other reason. That's what feels like happened here. Yeah. If Vlad the Impaler did all that because all those people showed up for dinner on an ounce, I'd go, I understand what he's doing. Yeah. Fucking call before he come. What are you doing, bros? Send a messenger to something. His cousins showed up with his family. He's like, throw them in the volcano. I love my cousins, but call first. It's all I'm saying. That's it. This was also a filming location for Waterworld, which is a famous Kevin Cosner bomb. So there are no reviews for this town of any kind. They are not telling a soul. Couldn't find them. So let me try one. Okay. One here. It's going to be hard. All right. It's goddamn paradise. Smoke a fatty. Grab a snorkel and shut the fuck up. Five stars. There we go. There's a review of the town. It's probably still fucking amazing. It's great. Things to do here. Well, it's Hawaii. Do I seriously need to tell you about some, you know, festival that's going on? It's all a festival. Yeah. Hawaii's going to be a fucking postcard. Yeah. No shit. But I did find a place where some music happens around here. The Blue Drago Tavern and Cosmic Music Quarium, Music Quarium, the bands that we'll be playing there. The new salts, funky jams, which seems like someone would have taken that by now. Yeah. Well, the nature just is regular, regular, all funky. Yeah. I feel like someone in 1973 took that, right? The Lane Azing ASING, Kingside. We also have the Johnny Ness band. Yeah. Jesus. Tomi Asobi. Yeah. The savoury brothers, not savoury like a taste with an e savoury. Okay. Tavana. It's Johnny shot. Who? That's it. What? Yeah. Johnny shot. Uh, bald head looks like Bill Goldberg with a guitar, which is a, an odd thing, DJ overflow. Hell yeah. And, uh, let's see, heat, soyer, and the left hand monkey wrench, monkey wrench gang. What? Their logo is a, basically, like, it looks like a grateful dead logo, but there's a wrench in there instead of a sky. It's very strange. There's a lot of words. A lot of words to put on a marquee of a small place. And then Brother Nolan, who looks like a very old man with white hair and a white beard, standing in the field. I feel like this is all locals, right? A lot of locals. Yeah. This is a long flight into, yeah, do a bar and get paid to $880 music, wear, use aquarium. That said, let's talk about some. murder. What do you say here? All right. We have, let's talk about a young man first here. Our man, I should say Robert, uh, key away writer, our YDR. He goes by LaPaca, L-O-P-A-K-A. LaPaca, everybody calls him that. That's his name. It's probably his Hawaiian name now. Well, it means something, as we'll get into later, and as this family, I'll call him that. Now, he's born in Honolulu, but he didn't grow up there. I feel like Honolulu is where the good hospital is in 1976. So that's where you go. But he grew up on the other side of the Big Island, on the wet side, you know, where it rains in the Puna district here, which basically is a lot of jungle and lava, a lot of volcanoes and jungle, and it's real Hawaii. That's real Hawaii, where you'd like to weave and, you know, set up tracks that'll kill people if they try to fuck with them. It didn't really expand to like mainlanders living there until later, right? 70s and 80s. Is that about when people started moving there? No, it wasn't. It was after Pearl Harbor. It was after Pearl Harbor, and then that's when, if you look at like in the 50s and 60s, there was a million like teaky bars and like that, that's Southeast, Southwest, their Southeast Pacific shit, South Pacific shit became real popular, and then Hawaii became a state, and then it was, yeah, because we were vacationing there a lot. So now, his mother's name is Deborah, or Debbie. His father is Roy Ryder, Jr. Roy Ryder, Jr. So he's got brother named WALOW, W-A-I-L-A-U, and K-Y-K-A-W-A-I, but he goes by buddy. Perfect. I would too. Okay. Yeah. He's like, "I'm tired of people fucking my name up." That's too not. So LaPaca and his brother, Wailu, of course, the one who has a not-called buddy that I have to try to pronounce his name is the one that is going to be involved in this. They were very musical both of them. Oh. They're both musical guys. LaPaca is all music all the time. He's got his ukulele, any plays? Is that what he's playing? That's what he's playing, any plays, all sorts of shit. He is Mr. Hawaii. So their aunt is a, oh, Jesus, L-A-U-L-E-I apostrophe O-H-U Ryder. That's their aunt, and she's a very famous Hawaiian singer from Maui. She's been was singing for 30 years. She's known as a spiritual leader and a healer and a singer-songwriter and all that shit. She's big deal, huh? Miss, yeah, everything on the island. So she included, this is, she got the Gandhi King Peace Hero Award, the United Nations Peace Educator Award, and she teaches healing and chant to audiences in Miami and Amsterdam and at the United Nations. Oh, and not just here locally. She's traveling. She's big, she's big and she's known as, quote, an emissary of a loha. So they loved her and they took the musical stuff and really ran with the kids, especially LaPaca here. In 2007, both boys here, they're about 30 years old at this point, or at least LaPaca is, they appeared on a Palm Records compilation called Namele Hula, which was a Hula album here and it produced, it was basically features the, what they called the heavy hitters of Hawaiian music. Okay. And they're on it too. It had Sonny Lim, who was nominated for a Grammy for Best Hawaiian Music Album, which I didn't know was a category. They don't show that one on TV. They got a whole category. That shit, that's in like a basement ceremony that they have. There's like that, some technical awards. They've got one real early. Best Wyoming Cowboy Album, things like that go on down there. The same record as Randy Lorenzo, who has a bunch of awards in Hawaiian Grammys. Oh, I think it's a Hawaiian Grammy. That's what it is. They just threw it in Hawaii only, maybe. And then the brothers are also on this. And they said in the liner notes that they were heavily influenced by their aunt and everything like that. So they are, LaPaca is really a kind of a staple in the Hawaiian music scene by the mid 2000s. Okay. Everybody knows who he is. He's apparently very talented. And I've seen videos of him playing. Guys, great. I mean, well, I've never seen a coverage of a bar or any sort of photography of a bar in Hawaii without a live. And they don't play fucking, yeah, they're playing Hawaiian shit every time. Yeah. No, they're not like, okay, here's fucking shooting star from bad company. Like they don't ever do that. Like it's never, never had it all. It's always, here's some fuck cat, everybody. Yeah, you never hear that shit. Who's ready for something you can eat a pineapple thing? Yeah, who's ready for some Huey Lewis in the news? Five folks. We never hear that shit. They might cover some, some of that parent had guy shit. No, Jimmy Buffett. I think they probably, they would probably fucking put him on a, on a stake if they could. I assume real beach people who are like from that environment would probably hate him. Like all the islands, Jimmy Buffett goes to all those people want to murder him in his sleep if he wasn't paying for everything. Think about it. They're like, uh, that motherfucker. He tips well, but God damn it. I want to stab him in the throat. Cheeseburger song again. God damn it. I don't know what that is. And I'm so thankful. I don't. Cheeseburger and paradise. You know that song. I do not know that song. I bet you've heard it. I bet you I haven't. Not more than four seconds of it anyway before I got rid of that. That's all you got to know is cheeseburger and paradise. Not enough to get that out. I don't think because Jimmy Buffett sings low off. I fucking hate that shit. I think that's the only song in his that I can recognize. I mean, I mean, I know the one that he margarita bill. What is it? Isn't he margarita bill? That's the song that everyone is and is covered in every goddamn shitty bar in America. Yeah. So LaPaca here, big into music, singer, composer, entertainer, um, likes to fish. Everything I've seen of him, he's like just a pair of board shorts. Yeah. Just sit in there. Yeah. Curls coming out of his hat. Just fucking play in the ukulele. Just singing. Looks like he's just loving life completely like you. How could you not? That sounds great. When you watch him, you go, that guy's going to live to be 130. He has no stress at all. Like that's what it is that kills us, right? Yeah. Yeah. One day, one day of making these shows is equal to 20 years of this guy's stress, 20 fucking year. And that's including if he got bit by a shark, I would put in there. Yeah. He has no stress. Uh, he's also a coconut weaver. Yeah. How do you weave? I was like, how do you make a coconut? How does that work? But he takes the strings from it, takes the strings, and they make shit out of it. Coconut, all the stuff from that thing. It's a very well known Hawaiian craft and why they make tons of shit out of the coconut. Yeah. Think about it back in the day. There's not a lot of resources on the island. So you use what you have. Open shit. Yeah. And then things also on the ground. There's not a lot of room to grow like, you know, cotton to make outfits and shit or maybe even to sew things. So they make hats and they make platters and they make little figures that go like on like traditional, you know, festivals and things like that. So by his 30s, LaPaca is huge in the island scene for the music here. And he, he, you know, does basically all of these things. I'll play all like, he'll play on like my cruise ships when they dock. He'll do like tide pool concerts and he even played with the Iron Man triathlon. A tide pool concert sounds like the best Sunday ever. It doesn't sound bad at all. That's what I mean. Wow. How do you have stress? What's the stress? Yeah, that's the words tide pool just alone seems like the best place. Some guy with a ukulele singing fucking stone and drunks sitting there. Inapple. What are we talking about? That's great. How is the life expectancy not 111 there? I don't understand it. Sounds amazing. Sounds awesome. It's probably the spam. Maybe I think it's all that spam and salt and yeah. So they even, there's a big island video news. Okay. And they have a bunch of clips of him sitting on the rocks above the surf with a ukulele. And they have one clip of him doing that. And he's playing in the narrator over it. Said says he's quote, he's the perfect compliment for the scenery. Okay. That's that's who La Paca is. If you have Hawaii in that whole thing, you can just place him in there and he just blends and goes with the scenery. Yeah, it's him and spam and a fucking and a lay. And by the way, in Hawaii, the goddamn newscasters were lays on TV. Goddamn TV. Like they just got off a plane. It's wild. I was watching. They do that. Great. Aloha bitch. What do you want? I don't know. I mean, it's fucking a low off. That's why not. And their lays are like these fucking party city lays are just like a bunch of flowers and shit. They put like they we've green into it. They have like vines and stuff. Their lays are. Yeah, they have those on the news. They're just the like flat ones. Yeah. They don't have the ones that look like you got caught in a fucking jungle. Yeah. It's like you were trying to get out of some thick brush or anything, but still. Yeah. It's like when you get married, you look like a like a landscaper just emptied his fucking bag. Oh, it's everywhere. Yeah, you're covered in so much shit. So yeah, he He's the perfect complement for the scenery that's he is Hawaii like if you took him out of here and said you have to live in Omaha now he would die in three days like he'd just drop dead. My flowers don't grow. Yeah, he would like if you poured salt on a bug like he'd shrivel up and just die with the ukulele next to him. Another clip they have of him from June 2010 he's playing at the ukulele in farm fest, which I know those things went together, but why not? Why not? Yeah. Now there is a little problem and we don't know what it really stems from or how the details of this really work out. But at some point there's a woman who has an order of protection against him. We don't know for what or for why I have no idea ukulele on a major listen. Yeah. Listen to me. Damn it. This is the right way to say Merry Christmas to you mother fuckers, listen to me. So this so later on though in 2013 he is charged with the violation of that order of protection which is not good here. So he has sentenced to probation for that in early 2013 I believe. So that's the only real one in with the law that I can find for him at all. In October 2013 he is sentenced to a year in prison for violating his probation. So he did something. Oh. Filing the parole. You can't tell the pocket what they do. No, apparently not. Well, you know what? He just goes where the where he feels. Where the the draw of the rock and the lava and the waves take him or really it's the ukulele that chooses. I don't choose where I go. I follow the ukulele like a dividing. The next pair of those fucking compass, I just go where it's at or it tells me. So he sentenced to a year in prison for violating this probation here. Now they take him in in a year in prison for a guy like this not tough. That's tough. I mean, they're going to make him more shoes and stuff like it's going to be bad. No, you. You know, you know, well, then you might be able to get a ukulele there, but in a Hawaiian prison, I think that's like a harmonica and, you know, the old west. I think they you're allowed to have that at least. You can't hit somebody with the harmonica though. No, but if you hit another prisoner with a ukulele, they're going to kill you. They're going to go, a fuck did you just do to me? That'll piss you off. That's just going to piss somebody off. So they get him in the room here and they're talking about how he's going to do a year in prison. Shit. So the police bring him in and he obviously doesn't want to have a year in prison. No. Imagine and they basically say to them, I mean, a year in prison, it's rough and prison is not great here and it's tough to go in and not a lot of beaches and not a lot of ukuleles and luau and shit. And they said, but there's also an alternative. What's that? That is maybe you could help us out a little bit and maybe we can make it so you don't have to go to prison for a year. Maybe we can get it. So your, your probation's reinstated as a matter of fact, maybe we can get you out of all this trouble. You're just going to need to do some stuff for us. Oh boy. And that is he agrees and signs an agreement to serve as a confidential informant for the vice division of the Hawaii police department. He is going to be an informant to get himself at a trouble here. Well, you guys are going to make me do sexual things. No, no, no. This is, yeah, except I don't think it's as dangerous probably. Oh, I'm sure it's not as dangerous because Hawaiian gangsters, I'm, I've heard. I don't fuck around. There's a lot of injuries. Oh, there's a lot of places to put you out there. Yeah. It's, it's rough. So it's like being in like the West Virginia Hills or something. Yeah. It's a trouble. You want a pineapple patch? You never know. Um, so basically that's what's going on. They want him to concentrate on cases involving the possession and sale of narcotics. Now, if you think about it, he'd be a, a perfect guy to put into the scene. Because I mean, yeah, the guy with board shorts and a ukulele and no one's going to suspect that guy's working with the cops, you know, I mean, there's, there's drugs there and he's doing them. He, you know, he's smoking a fatty before you fucking come out and play ukulele music at a tide pool. Don't you? Probably what he got caught for then. Yeah. Yeah. I smoke weed before this. Can you imagine if I was just strumming? Where's the tide pool, man? Yeah. I thought there was a tide pool here, man. What the fuck? I gotta make more money, man, I thought I heard water, I guess not. So anyway, that's what he starts doing and they turn him toward a particular target, a guy named Martin Frank Booth here. He's 55 years old at this time. He's born in 1958 and he has got, this guy is a not a good guy and the cops know it. Oh, he's bad. They've arrested him. There's a huge felony convictions he has, history of drug possession, history of distribution of methamphetamine, firearms charges. She is the scum of the island, basically, this guy, not a good guy, but also a very dangerous guy. Yeah. A guy who has tons of guns and meth is not the guy you want to cross usually. The guy that has tons of illegal guns and who I, that's got to be the hardest place in America to get an illegal gun. He's got to float all the way the hell over there. So he lives on Hanakoa Street in Kauai, Kauai, whatever the hell over the hell you pronounce this town, which is just a small, unincorporated harbor town. It's on, it's in the, by the water right on the harbor there on the northwest coast of the big island, basically. Now it's past, there's in Kohala, Kohala, there's resorts. This is past that. This is, this is the area where if you were at the resort, they'd say there's nothing up there. You don't need to go up there. Yeah. It's more resort developers are like, I think we've gone far enough. Pretty much there. So it has a harbor, a fuel depot, a shipping terminal, a small military landing pad. It doesn't sound like a wide area. Yeah. They use this shit like a Midwestern, like the military uses a Midwestern state and, you know, in America. So it's got a couple of restaurants, mainly just locals. Not a lot of foot traffic, not a lot of, you know, people coming from the mainland to wander around and go, oh, isn't that pretty? Like none of that shit really shocked that it's all, yeah, that it's all like this. It exists there. Yeah. I mean, you can go to any of these tropical islands and they have areas like that that, you know, people don't really. There's someplace that's just for locals. Yeah. There's very well known in the narcotics distribution circles in this area here. And by 2013, he was, they were an active target of the vice squad. They were building a meth trafficking case against him. Yeah. And they were doing it with the help of confidential informants. So, and that main one they were trying to use is La Paca. They want to use him. Does La Paca, does he know him? He knows him. Everybody. They all know each other in this area. Anybody who's local pretty much knows each other, 742 people and, yeah, I'm a music scene. They, you know, they know each other basically. It would be very weird to be like James. We caught you speeding and you're under, you're on probation. We're going to put you in jail. But if you go down to the city and go talk to Joey Montana, you're like, who the fuck's that? I don't know. I don't know. Italian. I don't know. You can talk to him about stuff. Go in there, talk to him about pasta or something. And you'll figure it out. I don't know. Tell him it's possible. Ask him where good sandwiches are. You want it? And they're going for you a job. If you ever wanted Italian to talk to you in New York and New Jersey, just all you need to do, I'm telling you, every other thing people might be rude to you, whatever. If you say, where do I get a good sandwich? Yeah. 400 people will swarm to you. They'll fight each other and argue. But by the end of it, they'll come up with a consensus of where you can get a really good prosciutto and fucking fresh ones around. You'll be parking cars there by the afternoon. That's right. That's how it works. So sometime here, after December 18th, 2013, this is what I, there's different, differing things here. The government will have one set of what they think will happen and then reality here, like the prosecution and the state will have an idea of when this happened. And then in reality, we kind of have to put it after that though, because it's interesting. So anyway, sometime in December, what we know is that Martin Booth, the guy who's the bad guy here in this story for right now, during a 23 day period, he has more police interactions than the two of us have ever had put together. Why? And probably half of our listeners too. Here is one December 18th to well, half of them are probably, I assume, felons, you know, we draw, we draw a certain crab, I mean, I mean, we have people that have never seen cops and then the other half all the time, we'll all the time, yeah, they're listening from prison right now. That's how it works. So this is the date number one of these. There's four different occurrences, December 18th, 2013, the vice section executes a search warrant on a home in Hanakoa Street, which is where he lives, because it's Martin's house. The cops find 8.1 grams of what they describe as a crystalline substance, which they find out will be meth later on, and 128 grams of weed, okay, and a rifle and various other items of drug paraphernalia. Uh-oh. The thing is, he's not home when they race. though. He's not home. So there's other people at the property there, Russell Kong, uh, Keoni Kong and growl. That's a cool last name. How do you not name your kid King? What the fuck? Keoni's one of the coolest names I've ever heard of. No, Kong is a great last name. Yeah. The Keoni's fine, but your last name is Kong. That's fucking. Keoni might mean King in Hawaiian. Maybe who knows? Um, uh, so there's another grayly vass canelos also there. Uh, so three guys hanging out there, but he's not home, but it's his house, which makes it seem like they're running a something out of you basically. In case these people come by, you guys distribute. Yeah. So those guys are arrested and released because they're not the target of the warrant, which is Martin. That's the one they want. They said that Martin lived in the house, but was not in attendance that day. So his house is raided. They get some method weed and rifle, which he's not allowed to have. And those, those together are very bad. Yeah. Not only can he not have a rifle, but you mix the drugs and a rifle together. It's bad. So, so then December 29, 2013, 11 days later, Kona patrol officers respond to a residence here on a Kienui road in Captain Cook, which is on the South Kona side. A woman calls in and reports that an unknown man has just threatened her with a fire arm and then fled in a sedan. Oh, so threatened to shoot her took off. So the cops find the sedan and chase it on to highway 11 in Captain Cook. Weird that Hawaii even has highways. It doesn't feel like it's just it's just ruining the scenery. Why are you putting that there? So the sedan is being driven by a woman named Regina Patrick. Now there's also a male occupant. As the cops close in on this car, the male occupant bails. He takes off there. Okay. Now Regina Patrick is arrested on a $250 bench warrant for contempt of court that she had. So they take her in and then they get a put the guy ran away. Now they get a warrant to search the sedan inside the sedan. They find a loaded pistol, an unloaded shotgun, but numerous rounds of ammunition for the shotgun. 18, yeah, 18.7 grams of meth. A little less than a gram of weed. So nothing much there enough for a joint or something. 40 prescription pills, brass knuckles, several large knives and paraphernalia for the use and sale of crystal meth and phatamine. So we're talking scales, baggies, things of that nature and maybe even cutting agents. So that's just in one car just in the car. That's like the his ice cream truck, but pretty much. Yeah, I bring the bell. Everybody thing, thing, thing, come gets up. So the the investigation on this, no, I don't know if Regina gave it up or what, but the investigation determines they say that Martin Booth was the guy in the car who ran away. He's the sprinter and that everything in the car is his is his. Yeah, basically. So and he doesn't seem to have a whole lot of shit. I mean, to travel with he does that's I mean, I mean, combined with what's back at the house as like a kingpin. That's oh, we don't know if that's his only play. He knows how many places it had, you know, I mean, yeah, that's probably what the cops think, too. We're not getting that much out of the sky, but he seems to be a big deal. Anyway, selling meth, that's a problem here. So and meth a lot of times gets sold by the quarter gram and shit. So, you know, that's a little drop. So it can be, you know, plenty. So they are looking for him, obviously. Now they also find out that through the witnesses and everything that Martin Booth was the guy who pointed the gun at a woman to begin with that started this chase here. So now he's got guns and he's pointing guns at people and he's got meth and he's already a felon. He's a commitment to felon. Yeah. Then on January 9, 2014 at 7 30 in the morning, police find him finally. They've been looking for him since the war and other 11 days, the traffic stop here. They locate him at a residence on Lou out drive in ocean, in Hawaiian ocean view estates. Sounds beautiful, but it's not. It's shit. It's not great. It's called a sprawling subdivision of cheap plots on a sloping lava flow at the south end of the island. Yeah. Basically, there's a lot of generators and this isn't a great place, but he's arrested there and on a $200,000 grand jury bench warrant for a second degree assault, which is that's the point in the gun. So he's hauled in and they hold him there for a minute. Now so he's still in jail. The next day, January 10, 2014, this is 515 in the afternoon. They charge him with 23 additional offenses, basically a lot of their investigation, methamphetamine trafficking, eight counts of promoting dangerous drugs, promoting controlled substances near a school, three counts of promoting detrimental drugs, three counts of possessing drug paraphernalia, six firearm offenses, terroristic threatening, plus second degree assault, which he was the original thing. So it's 24 charges, bail is set at $266,000. Okay. Very specific. You can tell that was added up. So he doesn't have $266,000 or $26,600, even on a button. He doesn't have it. So he is going to sit at a jail cell for a wash. Shit. Now the issue here, his house that was rated, number of the original house that was rated on the first one, I assume they went through it with a fine tooth comb because they're looking for drug stuff. So you can have a little baggy this big so you can tear the whole place apart doing that. Now also he has another property that has a trailer on it. Okay. So he has a couple of properties here. He's got a property with a trailer with people who live in the trailer. Now their names are never really released publicly. So we don't know their names. We're going to call them the Lord and Lady of the trailer here. It's a 28 year old woman and her and her and her Lord and her Lord of the matter. So the boyfriend apparently has some kind of relationship with Martin, some kind of tenant help around the you know, handyman type of thing. You let us live in the trailer. I'll trim that bushes or whatever the agreement arrangement is. And we don't know if there's anything that has to do with drugs involved in that or what we don't know. Okay. Now one thing we do know here. So that's all Martin's thing. Now let's go back to Thanksgiving 2013 before all of his legal trouble started and catch back up with LaPaca. Yeah. He apparently at least saw or contacted his family on Thanksgiving November 28, 2013. His family spoke to him. We're not sure if he came over or just it was a phone call or what, but they contacted him that that day. And then basically don't hear from him for a while. Now this is not abnormal. So the whole month of December, he's 37 years old. He's got his own place. He doesn't live with his family and he's a real free spirit. He goes and travels to do music gigs. He does. They don't hear from him. He doesn't check in a couple times a week. Sometimes he's got no other husband or anything. No. He's got no responsibility. Like there's no job if he doesn't show up for. We're going to call. It's a main. It's what I mean. No stress. No stress. You're good Lord. The other day I was sitting and I was relaxing for a little while. And I got like eight minutes into it. And then I realized, oh, I have a ton of shit I have to do when I do all this work. And I had to get to work. And I literally looked, I said, obviously I can't, if I'm relaxing, it means I know I'm missing something because I work all off. I'm putting something terrible that I need to do off. So I can't imagine just having a month where no one's heard for me and they're like, he's doing something. He's all right. Something terrible. Something terrible. Yeah. And I consider, you know, constant research terrible for me. It's not exactly playing a ukulele on a lava rock, you know what I'm saying? It's so because it is casual. I do it all. It's all I do with my life. I know. If I built it up more, I'd snap. I have to just. It's just so familiar and constant in your life. You're probably putting something terrible off. Exactly. And I said to Sarah, that's what it is. If I'm relaxing for five minutes, that means I have to do a inventory of what I should be doing. Because there's something I need to be doing. Because there's no way I'm allowed to relax for five fucking minutes. It's not possible. So anyway, so the whole month of December, LaPaca has not heard from at all. No one hears from him and they assume he's playing gigs and you know, it's maybe it's a lot of people go to Hawaii for the holidays. Yeah. Because it's and that's also the cheap season to go there. Yeah. That and they go for New Year's Eve. A lot of people will go for that holiday. So they probably think there's some tourist shit going on. He's probably got some gigs, you know. But by January, they start to be a little, hey, who's have you heard from your brother Christmas? No, that's I mean, no Merry Christmas. No anything. I don't know how much they celebrate Christmas. If they're that kind of whatever their families into, I'm not sure. But by the second week of January, they haven't heard from them for about 45 days. They start to get everyone's. They start asking each each other, they're like, something's wrong. This isn't a, yeah, he's not doing a world European tour right now. I mean, he had to check in. So they actually report him officially missing to the Hawaii County police department on January 22nd. The police department puts out a press release that he's missing. He's five, 10, 150 pounds, green eyes, short brown hair, probably carrying a ukulele, likely, likely ukulele. Now, at this time, they, they have declared him officially missing on January 17th. At this point, Martin Booth has been sitting in the Hawaii community correctional center for about eight days. Okay. Now January to early March, 2014, nobody hears from the pocket. He's gone really missing posters are spread around. All the games he plays four months, no sign of him anywhere. No one's seen him. No, and he's a guy that you'd see him and you know that he was there. Yeah, yeah, he was here singing songs, playing music, everything. Yeah, it was crazy. He's a perfect compliment. Uh, he's like furniture like that's weird. They treat the poor guy like furniture. So a nice corner corner desk. Yeah, uh, yeah, exactly early March, 2014 here. So I mean, months have gone by. His family's very worried. And a man walks into a police station, uh, oh, random man. We've not heard about in this story yet. And he tells the police he needs to speak to a detective. All right. And they're like, I mean, sure, what the hell? So go sit in the corner there and, uh, he says, listen, um, he said that I, I was coerced by someone into helping that someone. Corner a person. Okay. And what I witnessed was the person who coerced me into helping shoot that other person. Hi, I'm an accessory. Yep. And he says, I help that person dispose of the body. Holy shit. So I know where this body is. And I can take you to it right now. And the cops said, I mean, they don't know if this guy's crazy or what? But they go, I mean, we'll take a ride at wherever you want to go. I guess sure. What the hell? Let's take a look here. Certainly worth looking at. So Monday, March 10, 2014, the Hawaii County detectives here are led by this person into a brushland between the Queen, uh, Ka, uh, Humano Highway and the Blocko Beach Drive in South Kohala. Oh my God. Neither of us have visited this place. My brain is broken, guys. So this is hard either of us going forward to go to why? No, ever. Are you kidding me? A plane over ocean. We could even do the first flight to LAX. No. Oh, wow. So they recover human remains there. Oh, shit. And they've been out there. These remains for a long time. This is about 530 PM. The land is described as vacant land and brushland about halfway between Powako Beach Drive and the Queen, Kay Highway. Let's call her, um, Queen Kay, uh, so it sounds like you just sell a lot of fucking ketamine. That is the girl that killed Matthew Perry. Yeah, that's the one exactly where you're going there. Uh, March 12, 2014. Okay, they run the autopsy and because there is so much decomposition here, yeah, as you can imagine, the medical examiner is only able to determine the cause of death. Uh, and that's pretty much it. Not really much of that heat. Well, they're obvious. That's why there is the fact that he's been shot. Okay. So, um, that's interesting. And also, uh, blunt force trauma to the head, probably a hammer crush the skull to Lord. So he's been shot and beaten with a hammer this far this corpse. It's a male person. And, um, so Thursday, March 13, the dental records confirmed that it's lapoca's body. No, yeah, poor guys out there, crushed skull and everything else. And, uh, it's, it's a, it's a big deal in the community over there, um, for the, the musical community is what I mean. Well, the big island video news that said he's the perfect compliment to the scenery. They pulled that clip and re-did the voiceover to say lapoca's melodies were the perfect compliment for the scenery. Oh, fuck that are the perfect past. Bence the old interview. Yep. That's so, so sad because they wanted to keep it up because it's great, great shot. Um, so June 9, 2014, they return an indictment on Martin Booth for one count of second degree murder for killing, um, the court issues, the bench warrant. They, uh, it's funny too. Cause what they do is they pull them out like it's a routine court appearance related to his drug case and they brought a walk him into a courthouse and coughs and then they go, oh, by the way, you're under arrest for murder. This is murder. This one's murder. Um, so that guy tied him to it. Said that's the guy said, yeah, Martin Booth coerced me and it was in and the thing is he said, this happened in Martin Booth's garage, the same garage that was thoroughly searched on December 18th and they found nothing. The, and the medical examiner puts the cause of death or not the cause of death, the time of death before December 18th. Oh, so either the cops, okay, either they're the medical examiner's wrong, which is possible with that much decomposition or these cops are so fucking inept that a person was had their skull bashed in shot and then removed and then they searched the house very soon after and didn't find one fucking sign of that. No drops of blood. Nothing that absolutely was leaking everywhere. Yeah. So I'm sorry, but either that's completing competence or the medical examiner's wrong. Either way, something somebody didn't do their job correctly there. Although I know a medical examiner could be up to little. Oh, yeah. Maybe if you, if you're a homicide detective, a doctor or, or anyone doing an autopsy, we'd like you to have some stress. No one else. So they say that booth is also being looked at for a string of unsolved robberies in West Hawaii right around the time that that Lopaka disappeared as well. So he's got all sorts of shit going on now. This is where it gets interesting. Okay, remember the trailer people, the Lord and Lady of the trailer there. Well, they go to the police and says that. Okay, the woman says she told her boyfriend that Lopaka sexually assaulted her. Oh, that's the story that we'll get later on. So the boyfriend, her story is the boyfriend then told Martin Booth about it. And Booth went back to the woman and confronts her, saying, is this true? And she said it was several days past and then Booth approached the woman and tells her quote that he shot and killed Lopaka for what he had done to her. Oh, okay, so that's the, that's the official story that these two people from the trailer are now telling and Martin is telling the police. Yeah, I did it, but I did it because he sexually assaulted a woman. They must have got word that he was imprisoned about this, right? Or in jail about it. Yeah, he lives on, they were like, we got to get out ahead of this. And he's a known as a dangerous guy around here also. So this is a, for him to say go tell them this and them to actually do it would be not out of the realm of possibility at all, like, it just seems like probable, honestly. So that's what they tell the grand jury as well, the Lord and Lady of the trailer. So they say that, you know, Martin was basically being his protector. And he said, they also said Booth told numerous people that he killed writer because writer it's sexually assaulted a young woman who lives on Booth's property. The only three people on earth that are saying that are her, her boyfriend and Martin Booth. Also, okay. Now LaPaca's family does not believe this at all. Yeah, they think it's bullshit. They think Booth figured out that LaPaca was probably wearing a fucking wire and working with the vice squad. Yeah. And if this Martin Booth's been around a long time and he's 55, he might know a copper too, also that might tip him off to shit. So they're like, they're saying this is, this is bullshit. This is literally he signed up to be a fucking informant against this guy less than a month before this guy kills him, but he didn't kill him because he's an informant. He killed him because that was the time when he's working with police. He decided to sexually assault some woman, right. Doesn't make a lot of sense. It makes more sense that he found out he's a working for the cops and he killed him. That's why I think why he's pretty far removed. But is vigilante justice illegal? Is that what it is? Yeah, I'm sure no. It's not campy, but it's, it's, it's, it would definitely be justification to try to minimize it. If you're sitting before a judge and it's, did you kill a police informant because you knew they were police informant or did you kill someone as a, as retaliation for sexually assaulting a friend of yours is a way different set and thing completely. So they, uh, the family's version, Blopakis family said it's bullshit. They're trying to cover up their own incompetency. And that's why they're doing this essentially. That's why they're, they're taking that, uh, story. Now what they do, the two, there's the, the one man who said he helped dispose of the body. There's also a second guy who helped dispose of the body. Oh, Jesus, they bring him in and talk to him and he has the same story is the first guy that he was coerced and going over there, basically, and they make a deal to give these two immunity to testify against Martin. Okay. The helpers here, so it wasn't their idea, okay. Now the official story, they talked to Martin, they talked to the two helpers, and they build this is the police official narrative of what's going on, the prosecution's narrative, okay. Okay. Here we go. Between sometime between November 30th and December 17th, 2013, so before the first raid, which would mean the cops are completely incompetent. They say that, but that's what's in the indictment. They say that between that, Martin arranged to meet LaPaca. We don't know why or how or what the pretext of it was, but basically, they figure that it was some kind of drug by meeting or something like that that he was working with the cops on, so they don't know if it's, they don't understand what it is or if it was a social call, they're not sure. But either way, it gets them to the house. LaPaca shows up at Martin Booth's house, walks into the garage, and we know for a fact that LaPaca had his ukulele on him, was holding you, okay. The ukulele will find out why. Now, there's a confrontation where Booth confronts LaPaca in the garage, and there's some verbal altercation, like I said, this is the official narrative. Per Martin's telling LaPaca here basically starts getting angry and aggressive toward Martin Booth. Oh, he's a aggressor and tried to swing his ukulele at Martin Booth, tried to hit him with the ukulele. Again, like we discussed, might not be the greatest weapon for that. Now when this guy's got rifles, yes. So he went over to a major meth distributors garage to confront him and then attack him with the ukulele. He doesn't sound like a likely story. But that's what happened. So Martin said he then, he had a hammer and he had a 9 millimeter handgun that was loaded on him. So he had two weapons on him. So that's the guy you're going to try to hit with the ukulele. Right. Yeah. So at that point, he said, Martin said that he hit him with the hammer when LaPaca tried to hit him with the ukulele and then he shot him twice, okay. Because obviously he was still a huge threat after he's been hit with the hammer and his own the ukulele, you know, um, yeah, that's, that's the guy you're afraid of. So then they said that at that point, they don't, we don't know the order here. He died on the floor. Now Martin goes back and forth of whether he shot him first or hit him with the, with the hammer first. Oh, it seems like the hammer would probably be the thing that would come first. You, you should, you build response to, uh, you build, yeah, you build, you know, if you shoot somebody twice, uh, you don't really need any other weapons at that point, probably. That's probably it. Um, there. So he's got a fractured skull and two gunshot wounds after the killing, uh, basically he calls these, these other guys are there and he tells them to help him, um, they wrap LaPaca's body in plastic and, um, they help Martin Booth take the body to the lava field. One of them does the other stays in the garage and cleans up the scene and evidently is amazing. According to the prosecution, this fucking guy is Mr. clean like he is, I need him to come over. He's magical and he comes up with a bald head and makes our young disappear. Come clean my house, sir, please, um, so basically they said that that's what happened there. And they said that the man, the one of the men who claimed he was coerced into the killing was then forced to dump, uh, help dump the body and then the other one was the cleaner. So that's, that's the official story that the prosecution's going to take into the, and this was all predicated on Martin Booth being angry at him over a sexual assault allegation of one of his friends. That's the prosecutor is going to do, huh? That's what they're, which is crazy. That's okay. But that's the only people. They have basically a bunch of people who are, quote, there and that's all of their story because that's, I'm sure Martin told them what to say. Yeah. And that's what we do. Now, July 2014, he pleads, he pleads to all the other charges against him. The 24. He pleads guilty to second degree assault, first degree, terroristic threatening, third degree promoting a dangerous drug, possession of drug paraphernalia, failure to have a place to keep a pistol or revolver possessing a firearm and ownership or possession is prohibited. First degree, methamphetamine trafficking and first degree bail jumping. That's a lot. October 2014, he sentenced for those charges, you sir, may fuck off five years for second degree assault, then concurrently to that. So at the same time, five years for the terroristic threatening, the dangerous drug, the paraphernalia, 10 years for firearms charges, then 20 years with a mandatory of eight for the meth trafficking, plus 36,000 dollars in fees, plus a separate consecutive five year term for bail jumping. So he's got 25 years he's facing. He is facing a shit load of, and he's 55 years old. Holy shit. I mean, his life is over. Well, I mean, with the lack of stress, maybe not. He could live to be 120, 150, you never know. So the murder trial is now set for November. Oh my god. And now he's got a murder trial on top of all of that shit. This guy is a bad guy. So at that point, he decides, I got a fucking, I'll plead guilty with, what's the difference at this point? I'm never getting out anyway. I'm going to be 70 something when I get out, maybe from all this shit and he's got a huge criminal record. So there's no guarantee they're going to parole him. Yeah. Yeah. So the prosecutors agreed to let him plead guilty to second degree murder. In exchange, they dropped the enhanced sentencing measure that would have denied him parole forever. So they only thing is they can't deny, they can't sentence him to life without parole. That's part of the deal. So they do that. And at the same time, the prosecutor as well agrees to quote, remain silent before the parole board on how much time he might must serve. So when he goes up, because the Hawaii, basically, the Hawaii parole people, they decide when you're going to be eligible for parole. We got a low-hot in our government too, but that'll be face. So that's part of it is they, what they do, they make this deal all the time, basically. We won't, part of their, yeah, you can negotiate anything if you're negotiating. Just stay out of it, let us manage whether or not he's getting it. You won't come to the, to the, my parole hearings and bring your folder and tell them what a bad guy I am, basically. Now, the family can still do that, but not the prosecutor. So that's the idea. Later on, by the way, this prosecutor, I believe, will end up dying of cancer well before that. Anyway, at a young age, she had like a rare form of cancer and died at like 44, I believe. So that's brutal. So basically in the plea, he will, he, Booth does not contest the prosecution's factual basis because it's advantageous to him. It's his story. That's also part of the deal is that his story is the narrative that goes before the judge of what happened, which is, crazy, yeah, that they didn't say fuck that. He's a scumbag drug dealer who killed a guy because he's an informant rather than this attempt at noble murder that he's tried to show, I've never heard this as a thing that happens. It's great. I'm telling you why he's different. You're not kidding. They're different. They're different. They're very chill. A little more laid back. So he gets put in for sentencing now. And Debbie Rider, and here comes the hammers here, Debbie Rider, who is LaPaca's mom. She comes in and says, quote, you are inhumane to take someone's life like you did my son. He was a kind and loving person. He was God's child. LaPaca believed in him and he tried his best throughout his 37 years to apply what the Lord guided him to do. You will have nightmares and you will have flashbacks for murdering my son. Thing is, I don't think this guy will. I don't think so either. The motherfuckers called blood and I don't think he cares. You need to put God in your heart so he can help you live the rest of your life behind bars and my family will make sure of that. And in the end, only God will judge you according to your actions and the way you choose to live your life. So good luck in prison. It's between you and your God now. People show up at every parole hearing and make sure you ain't ever gotten out even so many years. See you there. Now the defense attorney says, okay, consider as a history of abuse in his past music. He's 55 years old at this point, you know, as a history of abuse, but he can change. Lots of people turn a complete new leaf when they're what 63, it's just completely different people. Right? Pass midlife crisis. But yeah, I would say it's the only get more so whatever you are, whatever that is. You're just digging and digging your heels in. Yep. He says, quote, I would ask that this court in any sentencing of Mr. Booth, remember he's a man who has made mistakes, but who is redeemable based on what the fuck I don't know what he's talking about. Yeah. Shot a man, bludgeoned him and threw him off a cliff, but he knows how to make a real good batch of meth Jimmy. I mean, that's a skill, that's something. Damn good chef. He's redeemable and has expressed his knowledge that what he did is wrong and therefore he's able to change. So he's not a psychopath, they're saying. He's not someone who should be discarded but should be looked at as someone who may change and redeem his life. If you're 55 killing people, we don't think, you know what? You will put you on a shelf until you're dead. I don't care, yeah, we don't need you anymore. Then he gets up and speaks himself. Awesome. Up, he said LaPaca was a very talented and loving person. He was a friend of mine, I'm sorry. There's nothing I can do to change that and what I've done and for that, I am sorry and there's no excuse. Which is exactly what you should say. Yeah. He should have said, would I, you know, sorry, I also tried to say he was a rapist on top of that but we'll leave it at that. He's a good person and I shouldn't have done that. I shouldn't have done that. You accused him of rape. Yeah, but the way your, the judge wants to hear, I'm sorry and there's no excuse. Yeah. So that party got out correctly even though the rest of it was hedging like a motherfucker. Yeah. So the judge has words herself for him. Quote, Mr. Booth, you are, you ruthlessly murdered Robert, Robert Coyle LaPaca writer. He was a son of grandson, a brother, a nephew, a cousin, a friend and he positively touched the lives of countless others. By your account, you assumed the role of judge, jury and executioner for a crime that Mr. Reiter did not admit to have committed or for which he had not been found guilty by a jury of his peers. In other words, you just took somebody's word for it and that's the official. In reality, he probably didn't even do that. Right. That's the thing that's so annoying is rather than saying you're a scumbag meth dealer who heard someone was trying to get you busted for dealing meth and you killed them. They make it sound like it was some kind of misguided attempt at nobility, which is insanity. Fucking stupid. This is very somewhat sounding too. I mean, and it's only because the judge can't go another direction because this is the narrative of the prosecutor presented. That's it. That's it. This is what would happen. This is what it sounds like. What have happened in that case where they was in Alaska where they went and fucking murdered a man because they said he was a rapist? Yes, it was. Yeah. You get out of the mainland, but thankfully that prosecutor was like, I don't know anything about that. You murdered a person. Yeah. I don't know. That's not proven. So fuck off. They just took his word and said, well, if he pleads guilty, whatever. We'll take whatever narrative he wants to give because we get a guilty play. She then continued, today you are held accountable to a society for your cruel and senseless actions. And ironically, it will test the fabric of this community. You are extended the benefit of the rule of law, of the rule of law that rules that even, that even if your life, what is this? Oh, it's hard to see here. Okay. Yeah. That even if your life is precious, it does so without expectation that you will change or have remorse for your crime. What the law hopes, I think, is that at some point, a seed of conscience will germinate from your dark heart and you will grow a full appreciation of the harm that you have caused and through that appreciation, you may find a meaningful life in prison. You, sir, may fuck off life in prison with the possibility of parole. So if we can grow some remorse in you, like a fucking petri dish, germinate like a peach seed, you put in a wet paper towel and put on the fucking window cell for a week from your dark heart. Gross. That is not good. So life with the possibility of parole. Now that runs concurrently with the rest of it. So basically it just wiped out all the rest of it. That shit doesn't count anymore. He's credited with some time served and the Hawaii Perolling Authority will determine when he's eligible for parole. Now the state of Hawaii does not have long term prison facilities. There's not a lot of room there. He gets sent, this is amazing for a guy who lived in Hawaii and probably like that lifestyle. This is the most punishment you could give him because this would kill me. I can't imagine I would do it in 11 worth worse. The Soaro Correctional Center, a private civic core. So it's a private prison, so for profit prison in Arizona, Eloy, a or a profit prison in the middle of a fucking desert, a horrible one. That's the worst place you could put someone is there. His food will suck a lot of shit medical care, even worse than the state of Arizona provides, which is, I mean, one of the worst in the country. But can you imagine how bad that is? Yeah. I guarantee the dry side of Hawaii doesn't have shit to the dry side of you. Wow. Yeah. You will not see a range drop. Never mind. Never mind the rainy season. You won't see anything. The storm is dust, man. Yep. Now, the family gets real pissed off La Paca family and publicly comes out saying that they think the department leaked that their son was an informant. That's why the murder happened and they covered it up by this horse shit sexual assault narrative. So basically, they claim that someone in the department let it slip either directly or indirectly to persons being investigated. Like, hey, we have a guy on, we have an informant. So we know what happened. That guy put two and two together at the only guy he talked to was La Paca and then spread the word and then Martin takes care exactly. So they said that the, possibly they might have said it to another police officer not involved in the investigation and they might have let it slip shit. So who knows? That's the thing about these informants. Remember the wire in the wire people going back and forth and you never know who's leaking or who's on the outside or can't trust these fucking people. They claim that the constitution violation is under the 14th Amendment due process clause specifically that the state created danger theory and even more specifically the danger creation exception for the general rule that the government has no obligation to protect citizens from third parties. That's a law, by the way. The government has no obligation to protect you, none, none, the police have no obligation to protect you. Why does it say protect on the side of that fucking goal? That is not an official thing. That is just a sticker they put on a car. That's for good feelsies. This was taken to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court said they have zero, zero fucking obligation to protect you at all from anything, nothing. So yeah, that's what you pay for everybody. So basically they alleged that they knew what was going on. Basically they knew of Boots Criminal History. They knew he was dangerous. They knew he was pointing guns at people, had access to guns, sold meth did not want to go back to prison for selling meth and would probably do whatever it took to make that happen. So they sue for failure to protect the informant's identity, disclosure of his identity to someone else. The problem is now they have to prove that. They have to prove it. So you have to find who the hell it was told to or anything like that. They also say that the county and the police department initially hid the nature and circumstances of Lopaka's death in an attempt to conceal their complicity and responsibility for the murder. Oh, that's it. Well. I mean, think about it. They said, Oh, shit. This guy's an informant two months ago and he was just murdered by our target who we told him to fucking look at how do you find out that's what you got to go with. Not good. Yeah. So basically, yeah, by the way, that Supreme Court case is called the shaney versus Winnebago County. Now, there is a narrow exception to that that the police don't have to protect you. If a government official affirmatively places you in danger, you wouldn't have otherwise faced if that danger is known or obvious and if the official acts with deliberate indifference to it, then the state has a duty and breaching that duty can be a civil rights violation. Which sounds like exactly what happened here in my opinion. Now, it's the danger creation. It's from another case called Kennedy University of Ridgefield in 2006. Go ahead and check that out. If you are real law, fucking do our care. So the lawsuit attempts says that they fraudulently covered everything up and did everything like that. So they said, we understand the public information disseminated by the state as motive for the murder, we do not believe that information to be correct. That's the that's the state's position is that's not what happened basically. They said, we're still in the process of investigating all matters, all matters concerning this. In other words, if we let it go long enough, they'll forget about it, hopefully. The state wants it dismissed and says it's all bullshit. So here's what happens, they grant the basically they dismiss some parts of it and keep some other parts of it. They dismiss the claim, a bunch of different claims about negligence that caused them to be attacked and murdered, individual plaintiffs claim that the county's negligence caused his pain and suffering, their negligence supervision claim, negligent hiring claim, negligent retention claim, negligent training claim and punitive damages against the defendant county. But they are, there's also ones that are dismissed but can be amended. is that the brothers sue about the request for damages. And there's something about standing, whether they have the standing to do this as brothers. Either way, here are the things they don't dismiss, though. The section 1983 claim, as legal representative of the estate of Ryder, so she has standing. The estate's negligence claim for the death of Ryder, count to Deborah's Ryder's request for damages pursuant to the Hawaii wrongful death statute. The individual plaintiffs' negligent inflection of emotional distress claim. So a bunch of things like that, there's nine different claims that they allow to go forward in this law. Wow. Now, what we see, what seems to have happened is there seems to have been a settlement and a private one that is not public. Yeah. Once again, it's very advantageous for the state to give her some money on the terms that you shut the fuck up and don't say that we let a goddamn informant get murdered because I know who's going to want to be an informant, basically. So that's what ended up happening. So it looks like the family got something out of this, I think. But who knows? Because basically they wouldn't let that lawsuit just drop and that's the last anyone hears of it. So it seems like a under the table's quick settlement at a court. So there you go, everybody, that is Kauai, hey, Hawaii. And there's a nice place in Hawaii where it doesn't rain a lot. But ukulele music is the perfect complement to it. So it's shocking. It's crazy. It's fucking crazy. That's shocking. That is disturbing. I mean, fast and loose is not even, I mean, not even begins to scratch the surface of how they were playing the shit these cops. There's, I want to know so much more about what corrupt shit had to go on. So I mean, there's, there's got to be so much corrupt shit happening there. Think about what happens in small towns, we've done how many episodes where there's some corrupt stuff going on. And so what do you think happens on a goddamn in a small town on an island in the middle of fucking where they have their own kind of thing where nobody goes. Yeah. Exactly. 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